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Hello Hartmut and Uwe,

Similar thought here.. why not simply join the crowd in the "european DX 
transmit window" at the lower edge of the band ?

Anyway, not a big problem here since I don't have Hartmut's ears ... ;-)

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF JO42FD

Hartmut Wolff schrieb:
> Hi Uwe,
>
>   
>> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
>> is there a vote against it?
>> Regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>>     
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi Vernon this might tend to prove that the simulation is not modelling the
travelling wave effect that gives the long low wire is directional
preferences (??)
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Rick that is surprising as I find them very directional and that the 1000'
on the whole
> has worked better than the 2000' but that could just be propagation. The
1000' is N/S
> and the 2000' is E/W.
>
> Anything heard on the N/S is usually nulled on the E/W and vice versa.
>
> Vern
>
>



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Andy Talbot wrote:
> What a fantastic range of RF products,!  And all without the nausea of 
> long delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added on.
>  
> Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)
>  
> Andy  G4JNT

  Yes, my friend Franco Rota is doing a fine job since many years, making available at reasonable cost RF components 
that would otherwise be hard to find or expensive, and often subject to minimum-quantity orders.

  Only recently he could be convinced to put on Internet his catalog... before you had to go to the various ham fairs in 
Italy, and ask him a paper copy of the catalog, which was updated may be twice a year, and so it risked to be always a 
bit obsolete,

 > Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)

Oh, when talking about technical subjects in Italy we use very often English words. Firstly, usually the English 
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73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Turn the speed up boys for the majority, who are cw operators. Look at the
OHIO grabber in NDB cw mode, it works well for the cw man.
I seldom use grabbers because I usually get replies to my cq's from EU xband
3533/7033 khz and via the reflector.
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Rik,

 

Many thanks for the information.  Let's hope our Ofcom make up their minds
soon.

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

  _____  

Mike,

it started on 15 januari 2008.
All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the given
restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this
allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you need
a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. Operating 600m as
ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.

73, Rik ON7YD

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hope our Ofcom make up their minds soon.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Mike,<br>
<br>
it started on 15 januari 2008.<br>
All holders of a &quot;full licence&quot; can use the new allocation within=20=
the
given restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit
required.<br>
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this
allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.<br>
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you need=
 a
valid Belgian &quot;full licence&quot; to operate this band. Operating 600m=20=
as
ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.<br>
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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> 
> Winrad supports Perseus, and it works very well. It can be used
> instead of the supplied Perseus software, however, Winrad does
> not have an "AGC OFF" button (yet) but since...
> 
> ...Alberto di Bene wrote:
>  > in case it is not implemented, just ask the author of the program...
> 
> this problem can be considered already solved.
> 
> Hi hi... :-)
> 
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

  True, Winrad does not have an AGC OFF button, I never felt the need, as in Winrad there is the possibility to adjust 
the knee where the AGC starts doing its job. If you keep that slider at its very minimum (meaning that the amplification 
of weak signals is minimal) you can obtain a working similar (not identical of course) to having the AGC OFF.

But the cost of adding the OFF function is mainly in finding the right place on the screen where to place that button...:-)

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi, Rik, John,

Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange callsign
threw me at first!

Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/ & ON/G
QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.

-----Original Message-----
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
>
> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Thanks for the QSO Rik!

Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
500kHz!

Congratulations and good luck on MF,

John
Gm4SLV
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Mark, LF,

Thanks for your report, I can see my signal quite strong on your grabber.

Good Luck with the main antenna, it has been predicted for rain & blustery 
winds in my area this weekend, I hope it is better for you.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Cracking signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
> No sign of MRF, not seen often here at this hour, and never very strong.
> will try to get the main antenna working this weekend WX permitting
> Regards
> Mark GM4ISM
> grabber www.dc2light.co.uk//LF_MF.htm




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Received on 80m dipole:

DI2AM -104dBm
OK0EMW - 117dBm

Armchair (aural) copy.

Slow QSB

73
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Hi Rik isn't it more likely to be the case that these low antennas are much
more dependent on ground conditions, which are not modelled very well (or at
all) in any of the simulators. In many cases the main reason they reject the
"interference" for higher frequencies is the relatively deeper skin depth at
LF/MF ??

This is good enough reason to follow JB and try it (if you have the facility
of "open range" available!!) but I guess they would work so well over salt
marshes !!

Alan G3NYK

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> J.B. ,
>
> I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
> But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and
> the offset angle is 78 degrees.
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD




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Hi,

Please does anyone know if the the 500kHz experiment will be extended beyond
the end of Feb 2008?

I specifically mean this:

The UK Amateur Radio Special Research Permit allows operation in the band
501-504kHz with a maximum erp of 100mW. It is available on application to UK
Advanced Licence holders and is valid initially for one year until 29th
February 2008.

My NoV application has not been answered, maybe I was too late?

I have had fun cross band 80m to 500khz with many of the Nov holders but
never managed to become qrv on 500khz myself.

dombaines @ yahoo.com is non-work email.

73

Dom
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Heard G3ZWH 419 calling CQ on 502.0 18.10UTC. First copy here.

Any chance for QSX 80m?


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks
good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
neccessesary
to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or does
it
do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
Any help gratefully received.
73 Laurie

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Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks
<br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it 
<br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br> 

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hello Rick, LF.

just cpy OR7T 549 deep qsb in qso SM6BHZ 579, any time ago cpy on 502KHz 
GM4SLV 439 also deep qsb.
congrats Rick! i hope for x-band qso next time.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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Dear Ha-Jo and all,

I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not solved.
I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the 500kHz antenna.
If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> dear Rick,
>
> I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
> "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
>> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in 
>> any
>> case.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
>> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
>> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
>> > Shetland grabber.
>> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
>> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
>> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
>> > and short transmissions.
>> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
>> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>> >
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>>
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>



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It seems the mail system did not accept my mail from yesterday eve.

Dear Rik,
          your signal was mostly audible here in JN59NO, when you made the Q=
SO=B4s with G3XVL and GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is 95=B5V. He=
ard G3XVL for a short time.
I called you on 3533kHz  for several times. Hw abt QSX?
73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It seems the mail system did not accept my mail from yes=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dear Rik,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; y=
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signal was mostly audible here in JN59NO, when you made the QSO=B4s with G3X=
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Dave,

G3ZWH is peaking 559 now.
No other signals ...
I keep CQ-ing once in a while.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> Hi, Rik, John,
>
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange callsi=
gn
> threw me at first!
>
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/ & ON/=
G
> QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 29 January 2008 20:08
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 503kHz
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
> Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
>>
>> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
>> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
>> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Thanks for the QSO Rik!
>
> Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
> from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
> 500kHz!
>
> Congratulations and good luck on MF,
>
> John
> Gm4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>



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On 31/01/2008 at 12:18 John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

>That 477 is an interesting report!
>
>"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
>near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."
>
>Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

Last weekennd in between DIYing, I had a quick listen on 40 m and went back=20=
to a G6 two-letter call who was calling CQ Contest.  I signed Foxtrot 5 Vict=
or Lima Foxtrot.  He came back to me:

"G9VLF you are 59 etc"

With a call of that antiquity, he should have known that G9 calls are not is=
sued to the ordinary radio amateur.  Also, as he got my prefix wrong I was n=
ot 59.

73
John F5VLF




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Hello John,

Yes that can appear nonjudicious like frequency, but it is the only=20
place of the band or the noise floor is with -165dBm at the connection=20
of the antenna ! ( between 00:00 and 03:00 UTC ) Thank you to have=20
specified the real frequency .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

The captures of the night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/


John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Joe,
>
> Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is=20
> 184.006 kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when=20
> Europe 1 on 183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz=20
> tone during that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
>> to about 184.005 kHz.  Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

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Hello John,<br>
<br>
Yes that can appear nonjudicious like frequency, but it is the only
place of the band or the noise floor is with -165dBm at the connection
of the antenna ! ( between 00:00 and 03:00 UTC ) Thank you to have
specified the real frequency . <br>
<br>
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>
<br>
The captures of the night are at :<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/">http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/</a> <br>
<br>
<br>
John Andrews a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
<blockquote cite="mid478CA0B5.4070802@w1tag.com" type="cite">Joe,
  <br>
  <br>
Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is 184.006
kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when Europe 1 on
183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz tone during
that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!
  <br>
  <br>
John Andrews, W1TAG
  <br>
  <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jcraig@mun.ca">jcraig@mun.ca</a> wrote:
  <br>
  <blockquote type="cite">Dear Group,
    <br>
    <br>
The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
    <br>
to about 184.005 kHz.&nbsp; Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
    <br>
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Pat,

the power difference between UK and Belgium is due to the conversion 
rate Pound / Euro ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 00:59 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>
>Perhaps this might be be a "violation of our human rights"?
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>As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be told"
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>Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !
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the power difference between UK and Belgium is due to the conversion rate
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73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
At 00:59 16/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=2>Shouldn't
membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
As Ian Hislop (&quot;Private Eye&quot;) would say: &quot;I think we
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Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !<br>
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Dear LF Group,

I will be running  the beacon again tonight - WOLF 20 mode, 503.800kHz, from
about 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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In a message dated 22/01/2008 14:00:59 GMT Standard Time,  
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be writes:

I  simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the  expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal  pattern is almost omnidirectional and 
the offset angle is 78  degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to  be 
long  on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly  ?




--------------------------------
 
If you accept the commonly held definition that a long wire should be  at 
least a wavelength long at the desired frequency that implies that at 500 KHz  it 
should be 600 metres, which is approximately 1960 feet.
 
On that basis 1200 feet is going to be a bit short to be strictly  considered 
a "long wire" on 500 KHz, but I certainly wouldn't mind having that  much 
room to play with:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR



   

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Thanks for the facility John. I hope to finally see my signal on your
grabber when you get back on.

Good luck!

Dave G3YXM.

On 05/01/2008, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> Hello LF group,
>
> Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
> QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
> busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
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> Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
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Thanks for the facility John. I hope to finally see my signal on your grabber when you get back on.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>Dave G3YXM.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 05/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV
</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Hello LF group,<br><br>Althought I&#39;ve been very inactive over the last month or so (my last<br>QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I&#39;ve kept the grabber running. I&#39;ve been<br>busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
<br><br>Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna<br>damage.<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Very quiet on the other side of the pond lately. Everyone on vacation? 
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Hello Joe ,
Happy New Year 2008

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/

73 J-P f1afj
















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RTTY TEST BEACON  

502 KHZ / 45.45 BAUD / 85 HZ SHIFT 

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John,

Thanks for the capture of the beacon signals on 184.006 kHz and the
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Thanks to J-P for monitoring.

73
Joe


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Hello Jean-Pierre,

I tried two times to send a msg to you; both bounced. Your message 
concerning the spectrogram AGC has arrived here.

Do you have an alternative email address (besides the ...online.fr 
address) ?

Cheers,
  Wolf .


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Hello Jim and the group

Stronger local noise here this evening, on my unmatched short attic 
dipole connected to the TS 850.
Your signal is absolutely invisible on the spectrogram, but decodable in 
WOLF 20 after a few minutes:


2008-01-28 22:04:10 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 1 -w 0.0000 -ut
22:04:22 f:-0.593 a:-1.3 dp: 40.5 ci: 2 cj:206 0UEYFX8*5MK*EZD ?
22:04:34 f:-0.803 a:-1.2 dp: 38.7 ci: 9 cj:298 9KL3H29IGEV3203 ?
22:04:58 f: 0.431 a: 1.0 dp: 36.2 ci: 5 cj:446 AWNAR5LDZKC1WPV ?
22:05:46 f:-0.332 pm:0.142 jm:915 q:-13.4 -6.3 FBC3TWX0GL/H K0 -
22:06:34 f: 0.137 pm:0.247 jm: 19 q: -5.7 -5.9 VDEFFBJUKOIFLGE -
22:07:22 f: 0.137 pm:0.267 jm: 19 q: -4.4 -6.0 6SZ???KADVWIBBX -
22:08:10 f: 0.137 pm:0.414 jm: 19 q: -3.2 -5.4 M0BMU 503.8KHZ  -

Good luck,
  Wolf DL4YHF .


James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the Wolf beacon again tonight... 503.800kHz, Wolf 20 mode,
> from about 2200utc. Any reports welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi all,
Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off.
Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem
good. Room for 2 optional filters.=20
I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any
comments.
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73's
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Nic McLean

VK2KXN / VK5ZAT

Tel:  02 99410619

Fax: 02 98139009=20

Mobile:  0417 822 728

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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of
receivers for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
and Warren for suggestions=20
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I
want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is
very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only
33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments
Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these
are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my
computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do
the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
So I am still looking
73 Laurie.


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ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do many people on the list use an Icom=20
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ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC f=
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<DIV></DIV>Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of=20
receivers for LF/QRSS.<BR>and my problems with my 1792.<BR>Paul Hendrik for=20=
the=20
URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for suggestion=
s=20
<BR>re alternative Rx's.<BR>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worryi=
ng=20
trend as Andy says.<BR>So I have been looking around!<BR>I have flirted with=
 the=20
possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent=
=20
specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another=20
servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <BR>The Ten Tec RX340 also=20
excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <BR>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and=20=
the=20
spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz=20
steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it u=
p=20
for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its=20
production.<BR>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan,=20=
but=20
these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my comp=
uter=20
sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&n=
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do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?<BR>So I am st=
ill=20
looking<BR>73 Laurie.<BR>
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Hello  Warren and  LFers ,

Vy good propagation , last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( Visible until 10:30 utc 11:30 loc !.......  )

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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GE Mal and LFers!
 I saw your signal. The second stations was G3xxx, I captured its
signal, but i am not sure in call.
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Dear Walter,

our 500 kHz access is for amateur stations, not experimental stations  
as in Germany.
So we can make QSO's.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Walter Staubach <walter.staubach@fen-net.de>:

> Dear Rik,
>           that is very good news in the new year. Congratulations.   
> Are you allowed for QSO`s or beaconing only?
> Let us hope that in other countries the OM`s start negotiations with  
>  their authorities soon.
> My recommendation about antennas: Take the simple vertical at the   
> beginning and later on the loop as well. Then you can compare both.
> 73   Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>
>



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On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:

>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>=20
But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall a time w=
hen in the United States of America top band was not available in many areas=
.

73=20
John F5VLF/G3PAI




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Many thanks John,
That does re-assure me since I have decided to get a 7030 to replace my
Racal1792.
I was put off by the menu problems, but since I want it mainly for QRSS work
on fixed
frequencies I think it will be OK.
73 Laurie

On 28/01/2008, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello Laurie & LF,
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:
>
> > John,
> > I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber
>
> Thanks!
>
> > and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
> > the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
> > up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
> > Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?
>
> The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing
> caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly
> strong.
>
> I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set
> correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the
> soundcard when I'm transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can
> wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio
> level to the soundcard doesn't "hit the rails".
>
> The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the
> receivers aren't muted during transmit (I've measured the level of
> leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can't remember
> the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and
> let it cope on its own.
>
> At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has
> rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I've not been
> active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC
> off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.
>
>
> > I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
> > AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
> > hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.
>
> As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off.
> I've used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked
> well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and
> attenuators in the past.
>
>
> I'll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can
> see how it performs.
>
> The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It's a pain at
> times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It's very
> capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various
> things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning)
> etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest
> steps being fractional Hz so it's not possible to tune in exact
> multiples of 1Hz.
>
> As a stable peice of test equipment it's prety good, as a "tune around
> the band looking for weak signals" it can be a pain. Until I started on
> 500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn't
> understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc.
>
> For a "tune and forget" long term monitoring RX it's great.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>

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Many thanks John,<br>That does re-assure me since I have decided to get a 7030 to replace my Racal1792.<br>I was put off by the menu problems, but since I want it mainly for QRSS work on fixed<br>frequencies I think it will be OK. <br>
73 Laurie<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 28/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Hello Laurie &amp; LF,<br><br><br>On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:<br><br>&gt; John,<br>&gt; I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>&gt; and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising<br>
&gt; the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show<br>&gt; up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030<br>&gt; Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?<br><br>The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing<br>
caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly<br>strong.<br><br>I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set<br>correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the<br>
soundcard when I&#39;m transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can<br>wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio<br>level to the soundcard doesn&#39;t &quot;hit the rails&quot;.<br><br>The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the<br>
receivers aren&#39;t muted during transmit (I&#39;ve measured the level of<br>leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can&#39;t remember<br>the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and<br>
let it cope on its own.<br><br>At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has<br>rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I&#39;ve not been<br>active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC<br>
off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.<br><br><br>&gt; I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with<br>&gt; AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had<br>&gt; hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.<br>
<br>As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off.<br>I&#39;ve used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked<br>well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and<br>
attenuators in the past.<br><br><br>I&#39;ll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can<br>see how it performs.<br><br>The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It&#39;s a pain at<br>
times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It&#39;s very<br>capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various<br>things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning)<br>
etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest<br>steps being fractional Hz so it&#39;s not possible to tune in exact<br>multiples of 1Hz.<br><br>As a stable peice of test equipment it&#39;s prety good, as a &quot;tune around<br>
the band looking for weak signals&quot; it can be a pain. Until I started on<br>500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn&#39;t<br>understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc.<br>
<br>For a &quot;tune and forget&quot; long term monitoring RX it&#39;s great.<br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello  all on LF ,

Happy New Year 2008

Last night i copy  :

CT1DRP
G3AQC
G3XDV
DF6NM
DL2HRE
DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
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see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

Happy new year to everyone !

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Warren and all,

Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=
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Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse, but=
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Hello Uwe.
Probably it UA4WPF.
G - the termination P, U - the beginning F.
Forgive for bad english.
73!

> Hello all.
> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
> QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
> who was it?
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
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> 
> 
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Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my webs=
ite www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a f=
errite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots=
 of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have just put a grabber on line, access i=
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the MF / LF page of my website <A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk">www.d=
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sort it out will use&nbsp;a ferrite rod active antenna.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Receiver is&nbsp;a softrock lite on 500KHz.=
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Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots of birdies as normal here=20
:&lt;(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any comments welcomed.. </FONT></DIV>
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G, Chris & LF,

psk31 seems to work quite nicely, better than the RTTY!


 CQ CQZQ=C2=B4E...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd =20
 CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd =20
 CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk=20

The CW is hard going too at times!


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> Dear all,
>
> I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
> With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
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> Shetland grabber.
> I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
> The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
> switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
> and short transmissions.
> I will be using my short call: OR7T
>
> 73,
>
> Rik
>
> ON7YD - OR7T
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Hi LF-ers

Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
I heard it very deep in the noise=20

73's de ON4AOL , Luc
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:26 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Lubos
  GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
  73 Mal/G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
    Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


    Hallo Finbar and LFers!

    I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

    =20

    Have a nice weekend!

    =20

    Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT></=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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I Hope they show they show on television in Great Britain the state funeral=20=
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Ear Ear  wots all this then ....

 With 5 watts and CW only , a quick word for the late Mr S M is most  approp=
riate=20

http://www.thegoonshow.net/songs/im_walking_backwards_for_christmas.asp

G ..=20

Ps The Kent coast ?  looks like your in range !=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G4gvw@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium


  Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?

  Perhaps this might be be a "violation of our human rights"?

  As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be told"


  Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !


   =20

  73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx
  Qth near Felixstowe, UK



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<DIV>Ear Ear&nbsp; wots all this then ....</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;With 5 watts and CW only , a quick word for the late Mr S M&nbsp;=
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most &nbsp;appropriate </DIV>
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<DIV><A   href=3D"http://www.thegoonshow.net/songs/im_walking_backwards_for_=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>G .. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ps The Kent coast&nbsp;? &nbsp;looks like your in range ! </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium=
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  <DIV>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same=20
treatment?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Perhaps this might be be a&nbsp;"violation of our human rights"?</DIV=
>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be=20
told"</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 PTSIZE=3D"10" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERI=
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  G4GVW es gd dx<BR>Qth near Felixstowe, UK<BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT>
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nice capture,but who?
henny pa3cpm
73s

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice capture,but who?</FONT></STRON=
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Dear all,

DI2AM peaking 599 ... increadible
A pitty the DI's cannot make QSO's.

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Hi Nick,

The R75 is pretty much the receiver of choice in the LF 
community in the US.  Works well out of the box, and 
excellent value for money.

         Cheers,

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com


Nick Mclean (SYD) wrote:
> Hi all,
> Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?


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Ok Wolf,

Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection of=
=20
the soundcard !

All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card ,=20
while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb cable  !

Rgds

Graham ..


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> Hi Graham,
>
>
>> I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see a=20
>> way of selecting a soundcard ?
>> may be ive missed a setup box ?
>>
> Simply, there isn't one. But if you have more than one soundcard in/near=20
> your PC, you can declare one of them to be the "default" soundcard (from=20
> windows point of view). The WOLF GUI will use it then, because -up to now-=
=20
> it always uses the "default" soundcard.
>
> It must be somewhere in the windows system control panel.
> If not, I can add a selection box in the program, but I fear it will be=20
> too late for the recent transmission.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>
>
>
>
>
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Hallo Luc and LFers!
OK, my beacom OK0EMW is just running on 505,060kHz. I am pleased, you
captured its signal. Many thanks for your information!
 
73 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS 
 
*********************************************
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Luc van Achte
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:10 PM
To: LF
Subject: LF: Captured at 500kHz
 
Hi LF-ers
 
Both signals are audible in J021af
 
I believe i decoded DI2AM and OK0EMW 
 
RX  TS440S     
Ant :  home made mini whip
Soft  : SpecLab 
 
73's de ON4AOL ,Luc

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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505,060kHz. I am pleased, you captured its signal. Many thanks for your
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bo=
ld'>On
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 01, 20=
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9:10 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Captured at 500k=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
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Now hearing them initiating a QSO on 502.5kHz.

G3ZWH has improved to a 519 and GW4HXO is also 519. It seems I can hear them
both better than they hear eachother, something I have noticed many times
before with UK-UK QSO's.

Just getting better...

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD
http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt


Quoting Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de>:

> Now heard (in regular CW):
>
> G3ZWH 502.x kHz 439
> GW4HXO 502.55 kHz 339..559, deep QSB, clg cq
>
> 73, Wolf
>
>
>
>
>




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.. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local QRM.

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF

(still hoping for xband.. )


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hi Marco, LF

DJ6GT(137.70) was in QSO with DK6NI(137.71)

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scholz, Marco " <marco.scholz@citi.com>
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Subject: LF: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning


Hello,
I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
Freq. ~137.690KHz
I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
calling?

Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
to hear DK8ND. 

Thanks
Vy73

Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de

 



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Lawrence,

I'm wondering , was the RA1792, not suited to  the 'job' or is it that is fa=
iled, your looking to  replace it ? ,


Have you run the self test ? , I use the exciter MA1723, which by the look o=
f it is very much  the same , Ive had quite a few problems with component's,=
 but to  date, have managed to  get it back  working with the help of the 'b=
ite' a dvm and rf voltmeter=20

In terms of price and performance , it may even be feasable to buy a working=
 set from e-bay and sell the original as non working, especially if the lcd'=
s are in good condition  , you may only end up =A3100  down , a lot less tha=
n the set's youve listed ?

G ..=20




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:51 PM
  Subject: LF: LF Receiver


  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers=20=
for LF/QRSS.
  and my problems with my 1792.
  Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, an=
d Warren for suggestions=20
  re alternative Rx's.
  The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
  So I have been looking around!
  I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050=
, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to=
 take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
  The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
  The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very=20=
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.=
 I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I g=
uess its coming to the end of its production.
  So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are=
 digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer soun=
d card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis=
 ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
  So I am still looking
  73 Laurie.



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citer=20
MA1723, which by the look of it is very much&nbsp; the same , Ive had quite=20=
a=20
few problems with component's, but to&nbsp; date, have managed to&nbsp; get=20=
it=20
back&nbsp; working with the help of the 'bite' a dvm and rf voltmeter=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In terms of price and performance , it may=20=
even be=20
feasable to buy a working set from e-bay and sell the original as non workin=
g,=20
especially if the lcd's are in good condition &nbsp;, you may only end up=20
=A3100&nbsp; down&nbsp;, a lot less than the set's youve listed ?</FONT></DI=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subjec=
t of=20
  receivers for LF/QRSS.<BR>and my problems with my 1792.<BR>Paul Hendrik fo=
r=20
  the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for=20
  suggestions <BR>re alternative Rx's.<BR>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receive=
rs=20
  is a worrying trend as Andy says.<BR>So I have been looking around!<BR>I h=
ave=20
  flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050,=20=
both=20
  have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take=
 on=20
  another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <BR>The Ten Tec RX3=
40=20
  also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <BR>The AOR 7030 is non D=
SP=20
  and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tu=
ne=20
  in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about set=
ting=20
  it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end o=
f=20
  its production.<BR>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks=20
  Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another probl=
em=20
  if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals ca=
n=20
  it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy c=
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Jean-Pierre,

> Hello Hall ,
> What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7
20:30 >> 21:00
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

Andrej, EW6GB

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Hello John!
That is very good information, I am pleased!
I am going to see on your grabber immediately.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************************************


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Hello LF,

I've restored my TX antenna (temporarily at 8m height instead of the
previous 11m) with the same top loading as previous.

The grabber looks normal again, with signals from G3XIZ, G0MRF,
DI2AM and OK2EMW

The antenna is okay for transmit too so I might be able to have a few
QSOs with it, despite the lower vertical height, since the QRN level
seems a lot lower than when I was last active back in November.

Cheers,
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hi J-P,

Thnaks for monitoring.  At least we know from John's
trace that signals are being radiated.

Lets hope for good luck!
73
Joe VO1NA


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> On 184,006 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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Hello LF!

Got the slightly improved 80m TX antenna tuned up today and I'm ready to wor=
k
X-band 80/600m again.

There seems to be an ongoing contest on 80m CW with lots of OH-participants.=
 I
heard G3KEV calling CQ QSX 3533kHz on 502.5 around 14.40UTC but I have no
chance to get trough on that QSX QRG due to the contest (There seems to be s=
ome
contests every sunday these days). Perhaps QSX a little above 3550 if possib=
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73's

Paul-Henrik



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Hi, Graham, LF,

I can't quite remember which one it was between the Halcyon and the
Quartzlock 2A (as we had both at work and had to retire one type) but one of
these standards suffers from the phase modulation on BBC Radio 4 (the other
one is OK). Averaged over more than 1s, the frequency stability of the R4
carrier is not compromised, but I think it upsets the PLLs in the off air
standard. This might be the reason for the cyclic frequency drift.

73, Mike G7AQA.

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Ok Alan,

This is a quartzlock, model 2A . I get a good signal on 198, im using it at
the moment , be intresting to  se if anyone detects any change in frequency,
but of course the signal is derived from the 800 hz tone from the sound
card, so that may drift as well , been running 6 hours so  should be warmed
up

Using the 'triggering scope' method of comparing frequency's  i can observe
a change about a fixed point , so ive set for the mid point , which looks to
be correct , todate im not totally sure what level of 'change' im observing
.. hihi

G ..


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> Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
> It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
> quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
> measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 
> 10^10
> and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
> direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
> 1250a....very nice.
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:59 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>
>
>> Ok Alan,
>>
>> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
>> ppl that is .. not the bbc
>> ... but by how much , im not sure
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>>
>>
>> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> > Alan G3NYK
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:26 PM
>> > Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>> >
>> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>> >
>> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>> >
>> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>> >
>> > tnx - Graham .
>> >
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Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at all !

I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point and
click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've just
never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
enough for QRSS as it is.

AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and is
always at fixed gain.

Andy  G4JNT


On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
> This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
> receiver.
> This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the
> receivers
> I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these
> receivers
> is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass
> band
> will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could
> quite
> disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> filter so that
> signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> de-sensitisation, and this
> could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> Or do I look for another R1792
>
> 73 Laurie G3AQC
>



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<div>Which are the receivers you have encountered that <u>do</u> suffer this problem of non-switchable AGC?&nbsp; It doesn&#39;t sound like a very healthy trend at all !</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;d&nbsp;use an SDR-IQ for LF these days.&nbsp;In fact I use&nbsp;one for most listening/monitorinf now.&nbsp;Its better, more adaptable and just generally nicer to use than the RA1792.&nbsp; And infinitley better to tune with point and click on the waterfall display.&nbsp; The only thing it suffers from is not having a&nbsp;clock locked to a master reference.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Needs 
66.667MHz and I&#39;ve just never got round to&nbsp;making a locked&nbsp;clock&nbsp;yet.&nbsp; But its probably stable enough for QRSS as it is.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>AGC&nbsp;can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume constant.&nbsp;&nbsp; The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and is always at&nbsp;fixed gain.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">lawrence mayhead</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement receiver.
<br>This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques <br>for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the receivers <br>I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp; facility.This means that if one of these receivers 
<br>is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass band <br>will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could quite<br>disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter so that 
<br>signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisation, and this <br>could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?<br>Or do I look for another R1792&nbsp; &nbsp; 
<br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Dear LF Group,

The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using WOLF 20
mode, "by popular request". Frequency is 503.800 as before - any reports
welcome, or comparison with the previous WOLF 10 sigs. The idea is that the
faster mode may be beneficial for short-duration peaks in signal strength
occuring on 500kHz.

Thanks for  the reports from last night. The results of my own monitoring of
the signal is that it starts off about 0.1Hz high, with the frequency
falling quickly at first then levelling out to very close to the nominal
(+/-0.01Hz) after an hour or so. This is due to using the TCXO inside the
IC718 as the frequency reference - the rig gets quite warm even though only
providing a few watts for the transverter, so takes a while to reach thermal
equilibrium. But in any case, this should be no problem for the WOLF
decoder.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: "John Andrews" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: M0BMU WOLF beacon


> John,
>
> > I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you
> > think that was happening at your end?
>
> yes, that was happening at my end.



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thanks Ted - unlikely you  as it was still in the late afternoon before your=
 sunset but hey its LF so who knows. Signal didnt last that long and still U=
NID; likely to be more European/Asian. Conditions still not that good here e=
quatorially looking on LF but it was a lot quieter QRN wise and saw more NDB=
s' around 510KHz than normal.
=20
Cheers
Laurence 9M/KL1X mobile E2 northbound towards Kuala Lumpur...avoiding the mo=
nkeys on the road.


From: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Thu, 24 J=
an 2008 16:20:07 -0600Subject: LF: RE: 137.7772






I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW
=20
Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL
www.kc3ol.com
=20
=20


From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PMT=
o: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137.7772
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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45 mi=
ns till sun up. Laurence 9V1 LF



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thanks Ted - unlikely&nbsp;you&nbsp; as it was still in the late afternoon b=
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Thanks for all the reports.

I will beacon again tonight. QRSS60. 136.31875kHz. Start on each hour 
from 1900 to 0900.

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Dear Hans-Albrecht,

Nice to meet you again (I think last time was in Friedrichshafen..) !
I saw weak traces of a caller after my qso with Ed 'LA, but due to the 
horrible FSK-QRM from EFR's transmitter, I couldn't decode it, thought 
it was someone calling RU6LA, so went QRT then.
So hope to catch you soon again (from DK4U alias DF0WD) .

73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF .


Hans-Albrecht Haffa schrieb:
> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
>
> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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Hello J-P and LF group,

The timing of the N in your capture coincided with what was transmitted.
It is amazing that you can receive such a weak signal.  Congrats again!

Many thanks
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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> On 184,006 kHz :
> 2 partial traces , 1 "N" at 02:20 (good)
> however the band was not very clean this night
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/
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WE2XGR/3 will beacon in WOLF(20) tonight from 2300 to 0200 UTC (6-9 PM 
EST) on 508.500 kHz.

Jay and I will have a QSO on that frequency at 0200 UTC in some other 
mode to be announced.

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Peter,

Can you please provide some details of the Softrock mod by Jim M0BMU coverin=
g the two LF bands.

Thanks.

I am using a Softrock lite here on 500 Khz using a 4096 Khz Crystal and can=20=
confirm sensitivity is good,
however a better input filter maybe needed in some locations as there is som=
e breakthrough from strong Local Broadcast stations (Radio Bristol) mixing w=
ith the 2nd harmonic of the LO.  Ie 1548 - (2 x 512 ) =3D 524 Khz =3D +12 Kh=
z
In the Softrock the image is audible when tuned to 500 Khz (-12 Khz)

73s

Jan G0BBL


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  Hi Laurie
  It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. It's much bett=
er than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!
  I have been using a Tony Parks' KB9YIG Soft Rock SDR RX (about =A320 kit f=
rom WS) for some time now.  I use the excellent free SDR application softwar=
e from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with Cesco's  HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL) VAC (Virtu=
al Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTE's Multpsk 4.2 decod=
er software.  Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only t=
he one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay.=20=
I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity=20=
and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and=
 96kHz using a high quality int /ext  Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are o=
nly about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon freq=
uencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellen=
t mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they ar=
e not standard in the Soft rock kit range.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can you please&nbsp;provide some details of=
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Softrock&nbsp;mod by Jim M0BMU&nbsp;covering the two LF bands.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;am using&nbsp;a Softrock lite here o=
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breakthrough from&nbsp;strong Local Broadcast stations (Radio=20
Bristol)&nbsp;mixing with&nbsp;the 2nd harmonic of the LO.&nbsp; Ie&nbsp;154=
8 -=20
(2 x 512 ) =3D&nbsp;524&nbsp;Khz =3D +12 Khz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the Softrock the image&nbsp;is audible&n=
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 John,

Ive amended the link on  uk500khz  'grabber page' to  show >

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk:80/grabber.htm

Tnx

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:37:29 +0100
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

>
> I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
> available soon.
>
>


Thanks for your kind words Lubos!

I have put up a short, untuned, vertical of approx 5m height and am
feeding this to the RX that runs the grabber. The signals are not as
strong as usual, but I see DI2AM (and some local QRM) on the waterfall
at 1400UTC.

I have restored the grabber to normal, 5 minute updates, but please
ensure you use the following URL:-

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm

I hope to restore the antenna to its full height, and to resonate/match
it, when I can get a replacement section of the telescopic fibreglass
pole. Until then I might have to lower the antenna in bad weather, as
it's only guyed at one level and might be a bit unstable in high winds.

Regards,

John
GM4SLV






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Thanks for reports,=20

I have changed mode to  'cw'  4 wpm , 503.000

will run till past midnight=20

Tnx

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:05 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


  Sorry about that , the exciter failed .... after a fet taps , its back on=20=
, beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lenght of about 4 seconds .=20

  G ..=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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    Subject: LF: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


    Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

    =20

    Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

    =20

    Station set up=20

    =20

    Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

    Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

    TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

    TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

    Mode , USB=20

    =20

    Test message=20

    =20

    CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



    Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



    Tnx



    Graham  - G0NBD- IO83LK=20



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503.000</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will run till past midnight </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
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/SPAN></P>
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MILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-langu=
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Warren,

some of us are using the Z3815a here. They came with lots of great info from=
 Murray ZL1BPU. He may be able to help with the Z3816a  murray@rakon.co.nz

Mike ZL4OL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: Z3816A


  Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
  HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon has=
 nothing!

  73 Warren K2ORS




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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:34:35 +0100
Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

> Hello John,
>=20
> GM4SLV schrieb:
> > I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
> >
> >  =20
> Got a few bits on 502.x a few minutes ago, but 80 meters seems is
> almost dead (within EU) at the time of day. Just an EA5... on 3550
> kHz deep in the QSB.


Hi Wolf, LF

I heard you call on 80m and replied on 502.1. You weren't very strong
(439 at best) on 80m but then you disappeared completely.

Heard you again just now at 22:39, I called but no reply again.
Conditions not good on either band?

Better luck another night/

Now QRT

73

John GM4SLV

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Hi all.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted.  I found it in the ARRL  
newsletter yesterday.
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
* 500 kHz Distance Record Set: On January 17, Neil  Schwanitz,
V73NS/WD8CRT, on Roi-Namur in the Marshall Islands, received a  signal
from experimental station WD2XSH/20. This experimental station,  operated
by Rudy Severns N6LF, is located in Cottage Grove, Oregon -- 4737  miles
away from the island in the Kwajalein atoll. The 13 words-per-minute  CW
transmission was copyable by ear and also appeared in the  Spectran
capture. During this same week, the Belgian BIPT (the equivalent of  the
FCC) granted Belgian amateurs with full licenses access to 501-504  kHz
with up to 5 W ERP; this is the first general amateur allocation at  500
kHz. The ARRL 500 kHz experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued  in
September 2006 and has 20 active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of  Vermont,
serves as experimental project manager for The 500 KC Experimental  Group
for Amateur Radio <http://www.500kc.com/>. Additional information  can be
found at the experiment's Web site and also in the July/August  2007
issue of QEX <http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf>.  




   

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Hello Rik,
I see your signal in Spectran. Actually high QRM level, which always
reduce much sometime after 11pm UTC. So later i'm sure no problem to
hear your CW. Hope for X-Band 80/600m with you in future.

vy73
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Dear all,

DI2AM peaking 599 ... increadible
A pitty the DI's cannot make QSO's.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Hello Rik and group,

 

Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will
start?

Maybe I have missed it.

 

Best regards

 

Mike

 

GW4HXO.

_________________________________________________________________________

 


Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium

 

Dear all,

 

today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  

use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  

so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.

 

I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD

 

 


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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt'>Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz per=
mission will
start?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt'>Maybe I have missed it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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can&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (=
all
speeds,&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively some 'h=
orizon gain'?

73 Warren K2ORS

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of=
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  Andy  G4JNT


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    73 Warren K2ORS

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    >
    > Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
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    > The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
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    > a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.=20
    > A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
    > echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
    >
    > HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment=20
    > for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
    > wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
    > listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
    > following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and=20
    > times are in Universal Time (UTC):
    >
    > HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
    >
    > Date
    >>From      To
    > Transmitted Frequency
    >
    > (UTC)
    > UTC
    > Hr:Min)
    > (MHz)=20
    >
    > 19 January 2008
    > 05:00
    > 06:00          6.7925
    >
    > 06:00
    > 07:00          7.4075
    >
    > 20 January 2008
    > 06:30
    > 07:30          6.7925
    >
    > 07:30=20
    > 08:30          7.4075
    >
    >
    > Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
    > to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
    > and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40=20
    > meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
    > antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
    > transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the followin=
g=20
    > figure.
    >
    > (not avaialable)
    >
    > The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
    > five
    > second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the=20
    > lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
    > repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
    > During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeat=
ed=20
    > but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
    > Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
    > carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW=20
    > mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
    > operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above=
.
    > However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,=20
    > it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
    >
    > Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
    > to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
    > the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
    > seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
    > 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
    > The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period=20
    > after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
    > 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
    > a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or=20
    > neither.
    >
    > We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
    > who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
    > transmitted
    > skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes=20
    > your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
    > and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
    >
    > mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu=20
    >
    > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@googlemail.com     href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlem=
ail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2008 3:53=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Fw: Information Ab=
out=20
  the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this pa=
rt=20
  of the world.</DIV>
  <DIV>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 18/01/2008, <B     class=3Dgmail_sendern=
ame>K2ORS</B> &lt;<A     href=3D"mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net=
</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN>=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote     style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Slightly=20
    OT,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd=20
    W4YHD cheif engineer<BR>for the HAARP project: <BR>73 Warren=20
    K2ORS<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Floyd, Steve (US=20
    SSA)"<BR><BR>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM<BR>Subject: Informat=
ion=20
    About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
 The=20
    HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,<BR>&gt; and the Lo=
ng=20
    Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted<BR>&gt; a bistatic low=20
    frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007. <BR>&gt; A brief=20
    description of the experiment and an example of the lunar<BR>&gt; echo r=
adio=20
    waves received may be found in this press release.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; HAARP=
 and=20
    LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment <BR>&gt; for 19 and=
 20=20
    January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short<BR>&gt; wave listeners=
 are=20
    invited to participate in this experiment by<BR>&gt; listening for the l=
unar=20
    echoes and submitting reports. The<BR>&gt; following table shows the pla=
nned=20
    schedule, where dates and <BR>&gt; times are in Universal Time=20
    (UTC):<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Date<BR>&gt;&gt;From&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To<BR>&gt;=20
    Transmitted Frequency<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (UTC)<BR>&gt; UTC<BR>&gt;=20
    Hr:Min)<BR>&gt; (MHz) <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 19 January 2008<BR>&gt; 05:00<BR>=
&gt;=20
    06:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    06:00<BR>&gt;=20
    07:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    20 January 2008<BR>&gt; 06:30<BR>&gt;=20
    07:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    07:30 <BR>&gt;=20
    08:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible<BR>&g=
t;=20
    to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver<BR>&gt;=
 and=20
    an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40 <BR>&gt; met=
er=20
    beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other<BR>&gt; anten=
nas=20
    may also yield acceptable results. The format for the<BR>&gt; transmissi=
ons=20
    will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following <BR>&gt;=20
    figure.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (not avaialable)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The HAARP=20
    transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the<BR>&gt;=20
    five<BR>&gt; second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to liste=
n=20
    for the <BR>&gt; lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two=20
    seconds,<BR>&gt; repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first=20=
HF=20
    frequency.<BR>&gt; During the second hour, this periodic five second cyc=
le=20
    will be repeated <BR>&gt; but using a different HF frequency as shown in=
 the=20
    table above.<BR>&gt; Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second per=
iod,=20
    will be<BR>&gt; carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners shoul=
d=20
    use the CW <BR>&gt; mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar e=
cho.=20
    We hope to<BR>&gt; operate this experiment using the frequencies given i=
n=20
    the table above.<BR>&gt; However, depending on frequency occupancy at th=
e=20
    time of operation, <BR>&gt; it may be necessary to adjust the frequency=20
    slightly.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or=
 may=20
    not be possible<BR>&gt; to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If=20
    conditons allow,<BR>&gt; the HAARP transmission will always be heard dur=
ing=20
    the first two<BR>&gt; seconds after the five second cycle starts, for=20
    example, between<BR>&gt; 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:0=
5=20
    and 05:00:07.<BR>&gt; The lunar echoes will occur during the three secon=
d=20
    "quiet" period <BR>&gt; after HAARP transmits, for example during the=20
    interval 05:00:02 until<BR>&gt; 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 unti=
l=20
    05:00:10. Depending on<BR>&gt; a number of factors, you may hear HAARP,=20=
the=20
    lunar echo, both or <BR>&gt; neither.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We are interested=20=
in=20
    receiving signal reports from radio amateurs<BR>&gt; who may be able to=20
    detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the<BR>&gt; transmitted<BR>&gt;=
=20
    skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes=20
    <BR>&gt; your call sign and the type and location of your receiving=20
    equipment<BR>&gt; and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following=20
    address:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <A       href=3D"mailto:mbreport@haarp.alaska.e=
du">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu=20
    </A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <A       href=3D"http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/=
mbann.html">http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
=20
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<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR     clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Andy&nbsp;=
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Hello James ,
Good copy of your signal Wolf_20 on 500kHz
73 qro J-P f1afj JN06HT


James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
> 2200utc.
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
> reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
> quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
> with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
> improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
> would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well befo=
re
> the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much abou=
t
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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t:  24 f: 0.273 a:-0.8 dp:-11.1 ci: 9 cj:478 ??????????????? -
22:15:00 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  12 f:-1.075 a:-0.5 dp:-22.4 ci: 9 cj:478 ??????????????? -
t:  24 f: 1.824 a:-0.1 dp:-24.8 ci:10 cj:443 ??????????????? -
t:  48 f: 0.267 a:-0.4 dp:-26.0 ci: 8 cj:206 ??????????????? -
t:  96 f: 0.273 pm:0.000 jm:548 q:  1.2-17.0 ??????????????? -
t: 144 f: 0.273 pm:0.002 jm:548 q:  6.5-20.8 ??????????????? -
t: 192 f: 0.273 pm:0.002 jm:548 q:  8.9-20.8 ??????????????? -
t: 240 f: 0.254 pm:0.002 jm:548 q: 10.2-22.2 ??????????????? -
t: 288 f: 0.254 pm:0.003 jm:548 q: 10.8-22.9 ??????????????? -
t: 336 f: 0.254 pm:0.004 jm:548 q: 11.0-23.7 ??????????????? -
t: 384 f: 0.254 pm:0.004 jm:548 q: 11.8-23.6 ??????????????? -
t: 432 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 12.6-26.4 314???????????? -
t: 480 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 12.9-25.1 30GTSFVO*TFO??? -
t: 528 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 13.8-13.8 QR 3WI93OG SFCM ?
t: 576 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.6 13.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 624 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 672 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.7 13.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 720 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.4 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 768 f: 0.234 pm:0.009 jm:548 q: 12.2 13.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 816 f: 0.234 pm:0.010 jm:548 q: 12.5 13.1 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 864 f: 0.234 pm:0.015 jm:548 q: 13.2 13.7 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 912 f: 0.234 pm:0.019 jm:548 q: 13.6 14.2 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 960 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.4 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1008 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.5 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1056 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.6 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1104 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.5 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1152 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.3 14.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1200 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.8 15.3 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1248 f: 0.234 pm:0.023 jm:548 q: 15.1 15.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1296 f: 0.234 pm:0.023 jm:548 q: 15.2 15.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1344 f: 0.254 pm:0.025 jm:548 q: 16.3 16.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1392 f: 0.254 pm:0.028 jm:548 q: 16.5 16.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1440 f: 0.254 pm:0.029 jm:548 q: 16.5 17.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1488 f: 0.254 pm:0.030 jm:548 q: 16.5 17.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -

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Hi Hartmut,

I can confirm the frequency and  make it to be 189.9497 kHz,
but the long dots?  They should be 60 seconds!

Will check this.

Thanks
Joe

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Joe,
>
> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>> will reamin in operation.
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>
> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got some 
> "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
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>
>
>
>


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yes it is an interesting project the old chap has been testing...NO mention 
of sun light being used  A Cable is used up thru the conduit pipe and into 
the sphere...as he places the spere in the water vessel no rise of water 
height..this would mean the water has gone inside the sphere ball 
thingie...any electics regardless of frequency would be in contact 
withwhatever hes got inside....any flow of electrical current heats water 
the same as having a heater element...old wizard zip water heaters just used 
probes in water for heating...didnt work well in southcant because of 
scaling of probes....hope he takes care with it and runs it thru isolator 
transfrmr...hope iam still like him at his great age   george zl3pn
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> gboorerzl3pn wrote:
>> hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has got 
>> a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after 
>> a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It 
>> has stunned professors and science standards...he wont let on 
>> much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the 
>> highfreqency audio electric current is heating the water ..BUT IS 
>> IT....george zl3pn
> Sounds exactly like a magnifying glass in circumstances where the 
> refractive indices of the mediums or "reverse" on what people usually 
> expect.. Calculate the difference in the refractive indices of water and 
> the glass he's used.  For a wide enought spread,  the focal point moves 
> outside the glass sphere........ so the solar energy is concentrated on a 
> spot somewhere in the water close to the sphere. That's where the heat 
> energy is focussed, and so that's where there will be "flash conversion" 
> to steam.
>
> Yes, its is most likely that there's cavitation as it is  flashed to 
> steam..... and probably even noise (acoustic energy resulting from the 
> inefficiencies of the process) But ultrasonics is strictly the process of 
> inputting mechanical energy.
> What we have here,, however, is good old photons, at wavelengths between 
> 440 and 770 nanometres (give or take a yard)
> Don't believe it? OK, what's the possible source of acoustic energy to 
> drive an "ultrasonic" device?
> He's using sunlight, its a photon machine.
> Doug zl2aov
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Ok wolf, looks like the set up is working ? might of been 'messing about' 
but its running now,  hopefully should be ok , tx should be stable , 
soundcard is a isa awe64 , been on 3 hors , so , see what happens ..

Tnx

G ..


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> Graham,
>
>> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure 
>> with
>> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
>> G ..
>
> I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
> visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?
>
>
> t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
> t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  96 f:-2.399 a:-0.3 dp:109.6 ci:13 cj:165 *AF67Y???2T3BE0 ?
> t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
> t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
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near HAM's toppic
www.hackersrussia.ru/music/cq_serenade.mp3

CQ Serenade (English) - The Amateur Radio song; Words and music by the
late  VE2QS  and  VE2BR.  Played  by  VE2QS and his Orchestra; Sung in
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX  ( vy good signal )

WD2XGJ ( good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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hi..in new zealand lf ops have found in heaverly biult in or eclosed areas l=
oops work better than any form of verical system...loops of wire say 100ft a=
cross between poles what ever and down wires to ft or so above ground back t=
o a feed point..poles 30 to 40ft..they work up and down zl  and into vk if t=
hings up stairs in good mood....connection is done by capacitors for tuning=20=
and  z match....lower loops grounded you have to be clear of power cables et=
c...especialy if  your ac 230v is a multiple earthed neurtral system as used=
 in zl  73 george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:04 PM
  Subject: LF: Low long wires


  Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n f=
ailure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground jus=
t a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable spe=
ed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplie=
d.
  =20
  Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded ar=
ea in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but su=
pported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wire=
s up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 1=
2 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.=20
  =20
  So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in thi=
s type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone e=
lse have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?  On the TX=
 side I see this without a lot of  clearing as another large TX loop experie=
nce - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment=
.
  =20
  Laurence=20


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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska=
 -=20
  but my s/n failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel=20
  underground just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and=
 the=20
  variable speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power=
=20
  cable supplied.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Im going to put&nbsp;"down" or it is "up" a=20
  couple in a heavily birch wooded area in Alaska above moose antler height=20=
and=20
  they will be insulated off but supported by the trees.&nbsp;Ive just gaine=
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  another painful acre so will have wires up to 100m in length or so -&nbsp;=
I=20
  have silt sand and ground water at around 12 feet in depth close in by a=20
  freshish water (ice at the moment)&nbsp;lake. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>So -=20
  question&nbsp;what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in thi=
s=20
  type of medium (?)&nbsp;Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does any=
one=20
  else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nbsp; O=
n=20
  the TX side I see this without a lot of&nbsp; clearing as another large TX=
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  loop experience - just too many tall&nbsp;decoupling signal Birch for=20
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Hello Rik and LFers!
I will be listening on 503.1kHz for you. As Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ,  has
been written, the X-band QSO will be good idea. For example used
frequency 3533kHz?

Good luck on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Subject: LF: QRV on 503kHz

Dear all,

I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,  
guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the  
Shetland grabber.
I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX  
switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays  
and short transmissions.
I will be using my short call: OR7T

73,

Rik

ON7YD - OR7T

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:10:55 -0000
"mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Hi all
> The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW,
> which is the predominant mode on 500 khz.

My grabber isn't meant to be used to read CW, that's what your ears and
brain are for!

The grabber is meant as a remote signal reporting tool. Admittedly it
allows reading of QRSS3 CW visually, but that's more by accident than
design. 

To use it to check your own signal all you need to do is key down, or
send CW etc.... on a known frequency at a known time, (perhaps a series
of long dashes?) and then check the grabber via the web. 

I admit that it makes identifying unknown "real" CW difficult, but you
can't have everything! Most signals (especially CW beacons) are
identifiable once you know the usual QRG and have heard the signal
yourself to know what it sounds like - eg Finbar's callsign and long
dash are easily ID'd visually once you know what they sound like.


Imagine the speed it would have to scroll to show real CW and the number
of web updates needed to keep it reasonably up to date for the remote
viewer! 

At present mine fills a screen in about 4 minutes with a 300ms scroll
speed, and uploads each screenful every 5 minutes.

This allows you (watching via the web) to see a reasonably continuous
picture of activity with reasonable refresh rate. 

To scroll fast enough to read CW by eye would require much faster
scrolling speed and to ensure nothing is missed by the viewer
watching online the picture would need uploading to the web that
much more often. 

I figured my setup balanced utility with bandwidth. 

I also archive each and every picture locally so it's possible to
provide historical data for any day/time. If the screen was scrolling
fast enough to read CW by eye I couldn't do this - too much data to
store! Guess how much data I have stored already - 5 minute updates
running continuously 24/7 since July......!!

> Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
> others.

Mine does. There's a box at the bottom of the picture showing date/time
etc of the capture and vertical marks for each minute (with the time
marked at the foot of each minute). The time is accurate too - the PC
is locked to NTP time.


I hope my grabber is of use to people. One of the stated aims in my NoV
application was to provide a remote station to be of assistance to
other NoV holders - and while I have been unable to get on the air to
have QSOs recently at least I've been able to make a contribution to
the experiment! 

I figure I can at least make my station useful for something when I
can't operate it myself.

Regards,

John




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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report! Let us hope that your noise goes away!

73 Warren K2ORS



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> G3XDV
> WD2XGJ
> The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized 
> more and more ........
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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> 



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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hi Uwe,
> capture last morning  03.47-05.47z
> 73

Hi Andrey,
thanks. so you caught WX the second time.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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It might make sense for all UK beacons to move up as near as possible to the
EU beacons on 505 khz approx. UK beacons could get as near to 504 khz as
possible and make it more convenient for grabber operators, and improve
selectivity.
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Hi  Dex ,
Yes the conditions are very good in this moment , yesterday your signal=20
was not badly, I will say even well  ! ! ! !
look at :    ftp://ftpperso.free.fr/LF/2008/January/05/
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Dexter McIntyre W4DEX a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Conditions appear to have been exceptionally stable last night.  I=20
> believe this is the first time I've seen XKO on your grabber with no=20
> fades for nearly three hours.
>
> Dex, XKO
>
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>> Hello  all on LF ,
>>
>> Last night i copy  :
>>
>> DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO
>>
>> The captures of night are with this URL :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>>
>> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>
>
>
>
>

--=20
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/


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* uwe-jannsen@versanet.de [Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:01:27 +0100]:
> Zitat von "Roman ." <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>
> > Hi Uwe and LF!
> >
> > DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
> > full report in the final of web-page:
> > http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
> >
> > 73!
> > RW3ADB, Roman
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hi Roman,
> thanks for the direct sent mails. sri I didnt answer them immediately.
> yes, I know Andy/RN3AGC vy well.
> thanks for the up to date screenshots from DJ8WX and for the old
> ones from DI2BE.
> DI2BE will be off the air the next months. Im now staying on
> 137kHz - back to the roots!
> your question conc languages: sri, I dont speak the russian language.
> but the meaning of the sentences in your and Andys websites are clear.
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

Guten tag, Uwe.
oki, Uwe. I make all next web-reports on english.


73!
--
Roman ..

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Dear Rik, LF Group,

Congratulations on your first QSOs on 500k; I think I just missed you on
503.0k - I heard the end of a call at quite good strength around 2200utc and
then no more. But there will be other opportunities :-) Could also faintly
hear GM4SLV on about 502kHz.

I am now (2210utc) running the beacon again in WOLF 20 mode on 503.800kHz -
any reports would be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

G3XDV
WD2XGJ
The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized more and more ........

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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RUNNING  WOLF BEACON - MODE 10-
503.500 . 

Will run till past midnight, 

Intrested on freqiency and stability 

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

IO83LK



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Jim,

No copy or even promising indications last night. If the currently poor 
LF propagation is a guide, then there might be a better TA window in a 
few days.

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Mike

Looked several times last night but no joy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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>I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
> 
> Reports welcomed.
> 
> Mike, G3XDV.
> ==========
> 
>


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On 29 Jan 2008 22:59 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear Rik, dr John, and all,
> 
> this has been a busy evening also for me!


Hi Hajo & LF,

Yes, it's been a very interesting evening.

Firstly thanks Hajo for the x-band QSO. I chose 3551 because 3533 had a
strong data transmission and 3545 was also busy. I found 3551 to be
better tonight. 3533 often suffers from QRM and usually find a
spot higher up the band (3545 is often okay, but not tonight). Your
30W on 80m was perfectly readable on my K2 even with an antenna only
20m long and < 2m AGL, nailed to a wooden fence! 

I find the ability to work full-duplex between MF and HF to be very
useful, so could send continuously on 502.1 and listen for you to report
my signal fading back up and know I could then give your report.

If only I could send and read CW at the same time we could have 2-way
full duplex QSOs!!


Rik's signal was good all evening, never falling in QSB to less than
449. Gus SM6BHZ was VERY strong - S9+ on the meter, with the pre-amp
off! The AR7030 that feeds the grabber now runs with no AGC, in order
that strong signals don't reduce the gain and remove weak signals, but I
found that Gus's signal was overloading the soundcard and I had to turn
the RF gain on the AR7030 down!

I don't know if Gus and Rik eventually exchanged reports, but it seemed
that Gus couldn't hear Rik at all?

Cheers all and well done Rik for a great signal this evening.

John GM4SLV




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Yes, Mal, I know, but if the signal is poor, it is not easy to decode it
as normal cw.
=20
The conditions are going up - your signal CQ CQ was nice now, as you can
see.
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG
=20
*******************************************
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:27 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon
=20
Lubos
GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
73 Mal/G3KEV
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> =20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon
=20
Hallo Finbar and LFers!
I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20
=20
Have a nice weekend!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, Mal, I know, but i=
f the signal is
poor, it is not easy to decode it as normal cw.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The conditions are goin=
g up &#8211; your signal
CQ CQ was nice now, as you can see.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 04, 200=
8
7:27 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500]
GI4DPE_beacon</span></font></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>GI4DPE has been active=
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ont-weight:  bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span=20=
style=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bo=
balik@rtv5.cz"  title=3D"lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</a> <o=
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0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" tit=
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nt:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
January 04, 2008 6:06 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DA=
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e:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> LF: [500]
GI4DPE_beacon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hallo Finbar and LFers=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I can see your signal=20=
quite soon
this evening, but in QRSS mode only. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Have a nice weekend!<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<=
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mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>No virus found in this
incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG Free Edition. <br>
Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 02/01/2008
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( Visible just a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
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see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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Dear Uwe, LF's
Attached, there is my FIRST ever received radioamateur station on 137 
khz .  It happend to be dj8wx
capture was made around 0030 UTC , 15th of  January on 136.319 khz -  
soft set in qrss60 mode.
( "1.5"  of WX  i.e X  followed by W and X )  :)
i have terrible qrm in my location ( city downtown)  the loop antenna 
was INSIDE  the room (3rd floor),  around 1 m from the window
series tuned, followed by an impedance raising transformer, then 5m of  
50 ohm cable,  2-stage ( BF245 FET, BC107 )
 amplifier yielding abt 32 dB at 137 khz and finally ft857d trx. i've 
found in my notes jo43sv as the location of  dj8wx
137 khz  transmitter so this makes 706 km 
                                                                       
73 de (very happy) peter,sq7mpj    /jo91rs/

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Received at S7 at Leeds, Gary, but too slow to read by conventional 
means.  The Morse test I took was at 12wpm ;-)

73

David G4DMP
IO93hs

In a recent message, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote ...
>Hi LF,
>
>G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
>QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Jim I have been checking here but nothing so far
de Lloyd W3NF FM19Mh
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
> 2200utc.
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
> reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
> quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
> with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
> improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
> would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well 
> before
> the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much 
> about
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs 

MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME

MMTTY , NON REV ,
MARK TONE  1275 HZ
85 HZ SHIFT ,
45.45 BAUD

TX  SET .... 501.000  USB

TNX 

G .. 



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I should have noted that the noise level is about S4. HAARP has gotten 
weaker since report below.

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ

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> Haarp is being heard better now on 74075.... at least one way is, but not 
> both... hi hi
>
> About S5-S6
>
> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
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Hallo Hans.

nice to see you agn on 137KHz. the station you worked is DL4EAU Tom. i made 
a capture from your CQ at 2100utc 05.01.2008. the RX is a simple direct 
conversion receiver(so42p).
  happy new year dr Hans.

Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

73/55
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> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
>
> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
>
> Hans-Albrecht
> DK 8 ND
> cba
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Ok Thanks for the frequency check,

Its just as it came out of the box at the momen

if its stable then a check on the sound card will sort the offset, the 
exciter is ok as far as i can tell

Rgds

Graham .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800


> Graham,
>
> Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
> Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
> lost some lines.
> Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37
>
> t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
> t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
> t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
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echoes of haarp started coming in at 0822hrs utc.tried both upper and lower=20=
sidebands near zero beat where u could hear the echos..almost full moon on c=
rystal twilight summer evening..mite have heard echo earlier as the moon jus=
t cleared forest tree plantation at 0820 utc,,but what now ???  george zl3pn=
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just as much to do with 136 ,500 khzas haarp .we use what ever means 
possible to advise kiwis over seas..been on lf 181khz longer then u guys up 
there..was the 1st to get going on lf 181khz 15years ago..run 1000watts 
input and radiate 3watts from quarter acre city section  60ft vetical and 
ring loop around top of four poles..ssb and cw into vk...max eirp is 5watts 
allowed...argo boys contact with nz and kazackstan.. my gear all home 
brew..73s  george zl3pn
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> On 20 Jan 2008 at 13:48, gboorerzl3pn wrote:
>
>> thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should
>> be able to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of
>> the hams lucky enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away
>> back in 50s on 14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in
>> group a all silent keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
>
> Sorry, but what has this to do with 136kHz or 500kHz?
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 




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Hello LF,

I've restored my TX antenna (temporarily at 8m height instead of the
previous 11m) with the same top loading as previous.

The grabber looks normal again, with signals from G3XIZ, G0MRF,
DI2AM and OK2EMW

The antenna is okay for transmit too so I might be able to have a few
QSOs with it, despite the lower vertical height, since the QRN level
seems a lot lower than when I was last active back in November.

Cheers,
John GM4SLV
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Clousta, Shetland



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Hi Gus,

Congratulations for 500 KHz band licence.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hi all,

I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we 
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ




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Graham, LF,

Feld Hell 100% copy here, print screen too large for here, sent direct.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Data test . mode change - Filed Hell - cent 503.000 khz ,


> Tnx for reports on ALE mode,
>
> Changed mode to  fileld hell , - multipsk -  cent freq  503.000
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:18 PM
> Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!
>
>
>> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone 
>> linear system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is 
>> successful
>>
>>
>>
>> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
>>
>>
>>
>> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
>>
>> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
>>
>> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
>>
>>
>>
>> Reports  welome , did it print ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
>> 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 1/4/2008 12:05
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 




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Laurie

The maintainance manual seems to be on mods.dk

http://www.mods.dk/manual.php?brand=racal

Stewart G3YSX


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Hi John,

Thanks for report, its not bad for 80 mW from a 12 metre vertical in a small 
back garden.

The received percentage would allow a QSO between us but with several 
repeats, Graham & me had no QSB problems so that allowed us 100 percent 
copy.

I'm off for a shower then crack open a can or two. HI. HI.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:49 PM
Subject: LF: [500] RTTY 502kHz


> Hello LF, Gary, Graham,
>
> Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
> following, of your last couple of overs..
>
>
> (1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..
>
> WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..
>
> JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..
>
> LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.
>
> OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..
>
> BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS
>
> G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
> V
> OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
> H YQQ:) B
>
> MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS
> VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK
>
>
> L73B
> AS
> SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
> NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
> THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
> 73
>
>
>
> Not too brilliant?
>
>
> and this of Graham's CQ
>
>
> VRYRYRY
> SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD
> RYRSRYRS
> YRYRY CQ CQ CQ D G0 B
> NOD G09
>
> GYRYYRYRRYRYHCQCQ CQ DE G09?$  GBPNBDG0
> B
>
>
> Off now to watch the footy...
>
> 73
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
> 




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lawrence mayhead wrote:

> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is 
> neccessesary to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or 
> does it do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?

I forgot to add that the output of Perseus can routed to Argo or for this matter to any other sound card programs by 
using the VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) product. No re-digitization will be performed, no pesky cables interconnecting two 
sound cards, and no need to have a second sound card.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for monitoring.  The transmiter is still operating normally and
will reamin in operation.

73
Joe VO1NA


On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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Dear all,

just worked my first QSO's on 600m:

21.01 G3AQC (559, deep QSB) = first ON-G
21.04 GM4SLV (339, peaking 519) = first ON-GM / 1102km
21.09 G3ZWH (529, steady)

Sorry for the short QSO's, the PA is still heating and I am monitoring  
3 meters during transmission.
I tried 80m on the 600m antenna, but no noise and few weak stations  
(as expected). So for now no xband.

I will call CQ on 503.1kHz once in a while untill 22 UTC.
After each CQ I scan the entire band for reply.
The range 501.6-503.3 is prefferd as I have strong QRM at the band edges.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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"Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded are=
as? "...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.

thanks
Laurence
Singapore



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Subject: LF: Low long wires




Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20=
a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
 drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.

Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded area=
 in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but supp=
orted by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wires=20=
up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 12=20=
feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.

So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this=20=
type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone els=
e have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?  On the TX s=
ide I see this without a lot of  clearing as another large TX loop experienc=
e - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment.

Laurence


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Sorry , correct URL !

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> The captures of the night are at :
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--=20
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/


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Hello LFers,

A very interesting video indeed.  A nice mix of craftsmanship
and technology.  I have an old 304TH that I light up every
so often just to see the glow that transistors don't give!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Thanks John,
Nice to know I can still get a signal across.
Happy New Year to you and yours
Laurie

On 01/01/2008, John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com> wrote:
>
> Caught a fairly ghostly "AQ" in the local noise here tonight around 0H,
> but no more. None of the other signals on Jean-Pierre's grabber were
> visible. Quite noisy in the neighborhood tonight.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> Happy New Year!
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Thanks John,<br>Nice to know I can still get a signal across.<br>Happy New Year to you and yours<br>Laurie<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 01/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Andrews</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:w1tag@w1tag.com">
w1tag@w1tag.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Caught a fairly ghostly &quot;AQ&quot; in the local noise here tonight around 0H,
<br>but no more. None of the other signals on Jean-Pierre&#39;s grabber were<br>visible. Quite noisy in the neighborhood tonight.<br><br>John Andrews, W1TAG<br><br>Happy New Year!<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello ED,

Nothing seen on 137700/QRRS3 before 22:00 UTC! after I commutated the=20
antenna towards the USA.
I raised a trace not identified on 137774 ~ ,  bis what it will be you=20
?   (see capture) .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



Ed Lesnichy a =C3=A9crit :
> Dear LF enthusiasts!
>
> I'll work tonight (5-6 jan) on abt 137.700
>
> The last night (4-5 jan) I had pleasant QSOs with DL2HRE, EW6GB and UW4WPF=
 - all good "O" in 3s mode=20
>
> I saw also QRSS signals (abt M-T) XGJ and XKO in 60s mode from 2330z till=20=
1.30z
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hi Lawrence
the Winradio 313internal or external receiver contains DSP internally 
and does not rely on Soundcard so that it can be used for other processes.
The internal version can also be ordered with IF out and also external 
precision oscillator input to ensure accurate tuning.
Well worth looking at.
I have had no PC interference problems affecting the senitivity etc, and 
use Argo,Skysweeper and SpectrumLab without problems
dave
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
webpage
www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org


lawrence mayhead wrote:
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these 
> are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my 
> computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do 
> the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.


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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
On the captures of the night spent , one guesses a
trace on the frequency of VO1NA! it is perhaps it ????

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj




















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capture 137.720  14:30utc   but  who?

henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
73s

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Further info on my QSO with Rik OR7T last night, I was using a tunable
pre-amp with a gain of 3 - 10dB gain in front of my Kenwood TS140 )used as
RX only), the antenna is a 102ft doublet with the 8m section of vertical 430
ohm feeder commoned at the Variometer. The TX was producing 600mA into the
antenna.

73  Ken

M0KHW    IO91TV   

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:59:43 -0000
"Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good
> signal, I gave him 477.

Hi Ken, LF

Congratulations on working Rik.


That 477 is an interesting report!

"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."

Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

;-)

John GM4SLV




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Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February. =20

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application. =20

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

g3wkl@btinternet.com




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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Normally I leave the beacon running until the morning - around 0900utc. I
hope to be putting out some kind of signal most nights until my 500k
experimental permit expires on February 29th.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> Jim
>
> What time do you normally shut down?
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Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for
the AOR 7030
and it certainly  looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu  operating
system.
I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went
wrong. I have
looked for a replacement but they don't seem to be around any more. Andy,
the problem
is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could
probably have a go at
repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
73 Laurie G3AQC

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Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for the AOR 7030<br>and it certainly&nbsp; looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu&nbsp; operating system.<br>I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went wrong. I have
<br>looked for a replacement but they don&#39;t seem to be around any more. Andy, the problem<br>is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could probably have a go at<br>repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
<br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Thank-you Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.

73
Joe

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Hartmut and Joe ,
>
> Nil on my screen !
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
>> Joe,
>>=20
>> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>>> will reamin in operation.
>>> 73
>>> Joe VO1NA
>>=20
>> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got=20
>> some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>>=20
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>>=20
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>
> --=20
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
>

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:59:43 -0000
"Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good
> signal, I gave him 477.

Hi Ken, LF

Congratulations on working Rik.


That 477 is an interesting report!

"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."

Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

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Hello Jim.
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj




















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Hello J-P, Group,

Yes, there appear to be traces of signal elements on 184.006 kHz.
Good work!
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On the captures of the night spent , one guesses a
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible one "X" in qrss120 at 02:30 , Warren what your power ? )

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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Decoded from a soundfile started at 23:00:

t:  24 f:-0.419 a: 1.5 dp:132.0 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:  48 f:-0.421 a:-1.5 dp:131.1 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:  96 f:-0.420 a:-1.6 dp:126.8 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 192 f:-0.420 pm:19975 jm:104 q:  3.9  4.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 288 f:-0.420 pm:34002 jm:104 q:  8.2  8.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 384 f:-0.420 pm:95018 jm:104 q: 12.2 11.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 480 f:-0.420 pm:249249 jm:104 q: 15.2 15.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 576 f:-0.420 pm:352888 jm:104 q: 16.2 16.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 672 f:-0.420 pm:456844 jm:104 q: 17.3 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 768 f:-0.420 pm:518792 jm:104 q: 17.1 17.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 864 f:-0.420 pm:542468 jm:104 q: 17.7 18.0 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 960 f:-0.420 pm:610939 jm:104 q: 18.1 18.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1056 f:-0.420 pm:623184 jm:104 q: 18.7 18.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1152 f:-0.420 pm:638222 jm:104 q: 18.3 18.7 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1248 f:-0.420 pm:644140 jm:104 q: 17.3 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1344 f:-0.420 pm:646768 jm:104 q: 15.8 15.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1440 f:-0.420 pm:648484 jm:104 q: 17.1 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1536 f:-0.420 pm:650815 jm:104 q: 16.0 16.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1632 f:-0.420 pm:653916 jm:104 q: 15.0 15.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -

73
Hartmut
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.. on 503.1 kHz, in QSO with a G-stn which is not audible here at the 
moment.

73,
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Hi Dave, LF,

That is a nice improvement & without compromising the 136 grabber.

Thanks,

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com>
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> Chaps
>
> On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 
> is
> on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit 
> and
> display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the
> bottom before!)
>
> 73
>
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
> 




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Hello LF,

I am currently (at approx 09:30z) hearing G3ZWH calling CQ on 501.92kHz.
RST 329 (with tuneable pre-amp and 10Hz AF filter!)

Despite several calls I'm unable to raise him, although not really
surprised.

Regards,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
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Clousta, Shetland



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Hi Rik,
Many thanks for the QSO, it was great to work a
new country.Your signal was S5 with QSB at 20:00
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QSB later.
Hope you get the PA sorted soon, I am sure your
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Hi Rik,<br>Many thanks for the QSO, it was great to work a <br>new country.Your signal was S5 with QSB at 20:00<br>when we worked but improved to S6/7 with deep<br>QSB later.&nbsp; <br>Hope you get the PA sorted soon, I am sure your<br>
signal will encourage more people on to the band.<br>73 Laurie<br> 

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Dear Rik,=20
          that is very good news in the new year. Congratulations. Are you a=
llowed for QSO`s or beaconing only?
Let us hope that in other countries the OM`s start negotiations with their a=
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GM to all!
Band is quite noisy, but I captured beacom "MRF" sometimes.
 
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Dave, John and group
As noted on my website and here the grabber I am running is very much 
'experimental'.
in practical terms a useable service is provided with a 5 minute refresh 
rate (even with the missing minute), and it certainly does not stress 
bandwidth considerations. I personally am an impatient sort, and the ability 
to offer a more frequent refresh and nice smooth scroll appealed to me.
I settled on the http server within spectrum lab for its simplicity, and for 
the additional remote control it offers, and because I had in my estimation 
sufficient bandwidth.
When I first experimented with it I had a small image and higher 
compression, and made some measurements of the required bandwidth. I later 
upped the image quality and size for a test, and did not re-measure.. though 
I did not observe any issues.
The file size by the way, is related heavily to content with JPG files, I 
have seen that the file size rises dramatically if the brightness is high, 
as the 'noisy' image is harder to compress.
With the contrast and brightness at the correct level images off my system 
are about 100K, and take about 1.6 to 2 seconds to upload to the client.

The experimental nature of the grabber is to gain experience of the system 
requirements and limitations, with a view to offering this service long 
term, when I am away from home (which with my present job is very frequent 
at the moment)
If I cant operate, I can at least contribute a little to the experiment.
I am also working towards implementing grabbers for the SHF bands, where 
QRSS is non-existent, some propagation modes are very short lived, and in 
general, things are not quite the same as on 500KHz
Spectrum Labs looks like the best candidate for my goals, but there are 
always more things I would like to do with the concept.
As always, the comments from this group on the functionality or otherwise of 
these systems, is most welcome. After all they are intended for the benefit 
of others as well as giving me a bit of fun.
Regards
Mark GM4ISM






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


> Thanks for the explanation John. I am a little puzzled why Mark
> wanted to update every few seconds for something used to display 3
> sec dot QRSS or slower where it takes several minutes for the trace
> to disappear off the screen.... Your 5 minute update seems far more
> sensible. And you are right, doing it from a server at home on ADSL
> brings the ADSL upload speed into the equation as well, something
> many people forget. Remember that 512kbits/s (NOT Mbits...)
> corresponds to only 40kBYTES/s and that is dead slow for large
> files....
>
> I see now that Mark has reduced his file size and display size which
> has largely solved the issue. But I am puzzled when he said the old
> file was 600kB, what I downloaded was most certainly 1.2Mb!!
>
> Sorry to hear about your antennas John, hope you soon sort it out. I
> worked MM0XAU on 40m on your island yesterday and he didn't mention
> storms, only lousy HF conditions..
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> On 5 Jan 2008 at 10:16, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
>> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> I use the old fashioned way....
>>
>> Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
>> into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).
>>
>> The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
>> screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts
>> at the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's
>> webspace www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new
>> account at www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm
>>
>>
>> The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
>> archive directory on the Linux machine.
>>
>> 5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....
>>
>>
>> Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
>> the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
>> external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
>> >
>>
>>
>>  ditto....
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Wolf,

Well thats working fine ! , thanks for that ! i'm sure a few other stations=20
will be making good use of it , hihi ,

tnx

G ..


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> Hello Graham,
>
> you wrote:
>> Ok Wolf,
>>
>> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection=
=20
>> of the soundcard !
>>
>> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card=20
>> , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb=20
>> cable  !
>>
> Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You=20
> will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the=20
> tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the=20
> 2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one=20
> soundcard installed.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
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David, LF,

G0MRF signal has just appeared on Marks grabber.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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>
> In a message dated 17/01/2008 17:52:36 GMT Standard Time,
> markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk writes:
>
> Cracking  signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
> No sign of MRF, not seen often  here at this hour, and never very strong.
> will try to get the main antenna  working this weekend WX permitting
> Regards
> Mark  GM4ISM
>
>
>
> Hi Mark.
>
> Yes, it's either an 'interesting' distance from London to you and all of 
> my
> signal is somewhere up in the ionosphere, or there is a noise or 
> sensitivity
> issue.
> The MRF beacon seems to get to Birmingham 24/7 and the shetlands between
> dusk in London and about 9.30UTC, which I would guess is a little after 
> dawn on
> the islands.
>
> Interesting though, whatever the cause.
>
> Best wishes
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> 




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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> just worked my first QSO's on 600m:
>
>
Dear Rick, LF group
just a moment ago at 21:47:30 UTC you were audible in , Lodz,Poland  
/jo91rs/ on 503.1 khz
i' ve heard: cq cq cq de or7t or7t   then immediately : or7t de sm6bhz 
sm6bhz
and then it all has gone... (sudden & deep qsb )

                                     73 de peter , sq7mpj



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Hello Laurens,

Paul Harden, NA5N has given some information on an other list.
The purpose is research of the ionosphere by triggering it by a signal 
reflected by the moon.
The goal of this research is to gain a better understanding of propagation 
and a 3D model of the ionosphere.
This should lead to much better (short term) propagation forecasts than 
possible today.
Something we can all benefit from!

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Gents,
The connection here is cable, some  'limits' on the data transfer (325Mb 
upload) 4pm-9pm the upload connection gets throttled back to 128Kb/S, and 
download to 1Mb/S.. normally I am on 4Mb/S and I thing 512 MB/s up
Not sure how often that happens..
The JPG settings were set to max, an I have tweaked these down now, 50% 
quality seem adequate.
I have also reduced the size of the capture window. It seems to default to 
the size of the window displayed, and I had it locked at full screen.
Now reduced to about 800 by 600 The filesize has dropped significantly to 
about 90Kb from about 600Kb
I have set the default time for the 2 pages differently too, and added a 
dropdown selection of refresh times
this will be live shortly!
73s
mark GM4ISM

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> Hi Wolf,
>
> Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
> secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
> immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 60 
> secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.
>
> My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb 
> but up & down loads are much slower than that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>
>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>>
>> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
>> the bottom of the screen).
>> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
>> rate, there was not a single error.
>>
>> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
>> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>>
>> 73,
>>  Wolf .
>>
>>
>>
>
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J.B.,

Not sure what was going on. The signal level looks quite low. The 
transmit end was OK, in any case.

JA

J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
> Hi John, Lowfers,
> 
> I tried to copy your Wolf20 transmissions between 6 and 8 but
> there was only these few lines that hinted at what might have
> been your signal:
> 
> t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:131.0 jm:702 q: -8.5 -8.1 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
> t: 816 f:-0.039 pm:142.1 jm:702 q: -8.8 -8.0 840NY008HVRVN3B ?


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Hello LFers & Lowfers,

I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
cedar tree at ground level.

The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
inverted V.

On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
noise on the longwire.  

Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
result, if that's the only option you've got!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???

G ..


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> Running WOLF Beacon
> 502.8 khz
> 10 bit rate
> (tx usb if that matters?)
>
> Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham
> G0NBD / io83lk
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Hello LF group,
wish you all a happy new year!

Copied WX around 136.318KHz the whole night with a strong signal
(http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/wx_020108.jpg).

vy73

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Thanks for the report John ,  that looks quite good , the test was a carry 
on from last night , Finbar was copying some of the beacon , Ive had no 
report back  from him yet . Looks to  still be a very small 'qso' window in 
the qsb !

tnx

G ..





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ


> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:38:24 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
>>
>> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>
> Graham, LF
>
> Signal faded up on grabber at around 18:50
>
> Here's a decode from 18:54z
>
>
> RYRWCYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST EDE G0NBD  G0NBEYV0,?$
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQICQIP  TEFT  DEHG0BD  G0NBD G0NBD
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQH OEST  DE G0ND G0NBD G0/,?$
>
> And from 18:56z
>
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ C CQ  TEST SDE G0NBD  G0NBD GGPNBD
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST DE 1N$)0/&=?46464646464646 C CQ CQ  EST
> DE G0ND  G0NBD G8NBD
>
>
> Sone errors, but on the whole readable(?)
>
> Cheers
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 09:01
>
> 




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Echos even louder on 7.407.5
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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Dear LF Group,

The WOLF 10 beacon is now (2220utc) running again on 503.800kHz

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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TT-338-BOH-15-FDS-004
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Excellent!
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Long haul from Eu to SE Asia still pretty poor on 136KHz with attentuated si=
gnals with sharp deep short duration qsb, normally a sign that we are still=20=
being buffed by the sun....lets hope for an equatorial recovery soon.
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
> From: rw3adb@rambler.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Thu, 17 J=
an 2008 03:35:42 +0300> Subject: LF: DJ8WX in Moscow> > Hi Uwe and LF!> > DJ=
8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.> full report in the final=
 of web-page:> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html> > 73!> RW3AD=
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o-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=3D#000000>Excellent!</FONT></SPAN><BR>
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till pretty poor on 136KHz&nbsp;with attentuated signals with sharp deep sho=
rt duration qsb, normally a sign that we are still being buffed by the sun..=
..lets hope for an equatorial recovery soon.</FONT></SPAN><BR>
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<BR><BR>&gt; From: rw3adb@rambler.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:35:42 +0300<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: DJ8WX i=
n Moscow<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi Uwe and LF!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; DJ8WX 136.319.5 Kh=
z was traced in Moscow this night.<BR>&gt; full report in the final of web-p=
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Dear all,

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  "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> schrieb: 
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Hello Geri,strong tonight,could you confirm your frequency and the ERP  power 
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Tnx Peter for the reply !!!!

73  Luc , ON4AOL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Piotr M=C5=82ynarski=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [500] General question


  Luc van Achte wrote:

    Hi LFers .

    Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
    I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0=
EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
    It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
    Anyone ?


    73  Luc



   Hi Luc,
  i had the same problem few weeks ago when i joined the LF group.=20
  your attachments should not  exceed  30 kb  permitted limit
           =20
                                               73 de peter , sq7mpj  (jo91rs=
)
                             =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx Peter for the reply !!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Luc , ON4AOL</FONT></DIV>
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  M=C5=82ynarski</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: [500] General=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Luc van Achte wrote:<BR>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LFers .</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there a limit on the size to sent a=20=
picture=20
    too the group ;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried two times to send the captur=
ed file=20
    with the signals from OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .</FONT></D=
IV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39=
kB=20
    .</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Luc</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>&nbsp;Hi Luc,<BR>i had the same problem fe=
w=20
  weeks ago when i joined the LF group. <BR>your attachments should not&nbsp=
;=20
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  73 de peter , sq7mpj&nbsp;=20
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Getting better Mark.
 
I now get down to 505kHz before I lose the screen.
 
I have 5MB download speed here, so perhaps an issue with the number of  users 
at present.
 
Thanks
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 01/01/2008 18:01:50 GMT Standard Time,  
markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

Gents, Initial experiments with restricted  bandwidth showed this effect, and 
when I changed the refresh  rate to 5  sec on the java version, it improved. 
so I have just (17:58) changed the  refresh to 10 seconds, and see what 
happens. (users already connected may have  to refresh the page)



 



   

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If you have the sort of SDR that uses I/Q drive to the soundcard, then it
can be tedious passing the recovered audio out to other software.  It can be
done using a utility called Virtual Audio Cable (VAC)  which effectively
creates an audio patch panel using digital buffers.  VAC sets up additional
virtual soundcards which you then route audio in and out of.

However, its probably easier to just get a second sound card, such as an
external USB one, and cross couple the audio.  They are quite cheap
now.   A USB headset can make a great second or third soundcard as well if
you want a voice input/output for driving SDR transceivers (see the
Radcom Data column this month - judging by the huge hit my website took
yesterday, it looks as if its just out)

The same comments apply to receivers like the SDR-IQ which digitise the
whole 30MHz spectrum, but then use the soundcard to deliver demodulated
audio.  VAC comes into its own here, as well.

Some datamode software can be persuaded to operate in parallel with other
packages, but it can be a bit hit or miss as to which software allows such
operation, and which blocks one process from working properly.

Incidently, I was monitoring the 500kHz band using my SDR-IQ one other night
when there was quite a lot of activity around.  With the maximum 256K FFT
size, I was seeing all the QRSS and CW signals present, plus things either
side of the Am band, in over 10kHz of bandwidth, simultaneously, at sub Hz
resolution.  The supplied Spectravue software is a really good waterfall /
spectrum analysis / Rx driver package, and doesn't use the soundcard at all.

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt

On 16/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
> for LF/QRSS.
> and my problems with my 1792.
> Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
> and Warren for suggestions
> re alternative Rx's.
> The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
> So I have been looking around!
> I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
> 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I
> want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
> The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
> The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
> daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.
> I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
> guess its coming to the end of its production.
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
> digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound
> card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ?
> at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.
>



-- 
Andy  G4JNT
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<div>If you have the sort of SDR that uses I/Q drive to the soundcard, then it can be&nbsp;tedious passing the recovered audio out to other software.&nbsp; It can be done using a utility called Virtual&nbsp;Audio Cable (VAC) &nbsp;which effectively creates an audio patch panel using digital buffers.&nbsp; VAC sets up additional virtual soundcards which you then route audio in and out of.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>However, its&nbsp;probably easier to just&nbsp;get a second sound card, such as an external USB one, and cross couple the audio.&nbsp; They are quite cheap now.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A&nbsp;USB headset can make a great second or third soundcard as well if you want a voice input/output for driving SDR transceivers (see the Radcom&nbsp;Data column this month - judging by the huge hit my website took yesterday, it looks as&nbsp;if its just out)
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The same comments apply to receivers like the SDR-IQ which&nbsp;digitise the whole 30MHz spectrum, but then use the soundcard to deliver demodulated audio.&nbsp; VAC comes into its own here, as well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Some&nbsp;datamode software can be persuaded to operate in parallel with other packages, but it can be a bit hit or miss&nbsp;as to which software allows&nbsp;such operation,&nbsp;and which blocks one process from working properly.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Incidently, I was monitoring the 500kHz band using my SDR-IQ&nbsp;one other night when there was quite a lot of activity around.&nbsp;&nbsp;With the maximum&nbsp;256K FFT size,&nbsp;I was seeing all the QRSS and CW signals present, plus things either side of the Am band, in over 10kHz of bandwidth, simultaneously, at&nbsp;sub Hz resolution.&nbsp;&nbsp;The supplied Spectravue software is a really good waterfall / spectrum analysis / Rx driver package, and doesn&#39;t use the soundcard at all.
</div>
<div><br>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 16/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">lawrence mayhead</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<br>and my problems with my 1792.
<br>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e&#39;bay lead, and Warren for suggestions <br>re alternative Rx&#39;s.<br>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<br>So I have been looking around!
<br>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <br>
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <br>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won&#39;t tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO 
etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.<br>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
<br>So I am still looking<br>73 Laurie.<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Ed,

     Thank you for the excellent capture!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Laurie

I've been using the RF-590 for 8 years now as my primary LF/MF receiver with
no problems or complaints. The 1 dB compression and 3rd distortion is on par
with other 'premium' military grade receivers and phase noise rates up there
with the best of the lot. The only negative I've found with this receiver is
filter 'blow by' on extremely strong signals. It's no worse than other
receivers of this type and is caused by limited stop band attenuation of the
mechanical filters. The fix would be to use a tandem set of filters or,
better yet, put a second set of filters just ahead of the detectors. This is
what I've done on homebrew 'contest grade' receivers. But then again...I'm
not using the RF590 for contest work and it has served me well on LF/MF. I
use a GPS referenced 10 MHz standard into the external reference -frequency
accuracy is deadly. Let me know if you have any questions.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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> Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
> for LF/QRSS.
> and my problems with my 1792.
> Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
and
> Warren for suggestions
> re alternative Rx's.
> The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
> So I have been looking around!
> I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
2050,
> both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to
> take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
> The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
> The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
> daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33
steps.
> I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
> guess its coming to the end of its production.
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
> digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer
sound
> card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis
?
> at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.
>



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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:37:27 +0100
Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

> .. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local
> QRM.
>=20
> 73,
>   Wolf DL4YHF
>=20
> (still hoping for xband.. )
>=20

Gus is 599+ here too, but he can't seem to here Rik's replies!

I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...


Cheers,

John

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Gents,
Clearly visible on the waterfall, there is a signal I can't identify, carrie=
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Gents,
The softrock 40 has sold out and no more kits are planned. Has anybody
looked into what is required to get the version 5 boards working on
505KHz.
73's
Nic
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Gents,
having now built 2 of the softrock systems, I can recommend them for use
as grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they interface directly with
the PC soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by Spectrum lab (or
software of your choice that supports I & Q input). With a bog standard
soundcard you can get a display of +- 20 odd KHz from the centre freq.
There is no AGC problem, as observed on other grabbers, and current
consumption in minimal (about 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I
had a problem that turned out to be the antenna). I received my kit a
few days before Christmas, so a grabber can be set up in a reasonable
timescale!
These units are available direct from Tony Parks KB9YIG =20
raparks%ctcisp.com <mailto:raparks@ctcisp.com>  $13 inc shipping if I
recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply substitute a cheap 4MHz
crystal for the one supplied) coverage is the 500KHz +- 20 KHz, I have
chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able to distinguish the
close spaced beacons around 505
These are kits and they do use some surface mount components, but the
end result is a compact and highly effective receiver ideally suited to
this application. Mine is even powered directly off the computer 12V
line
It would be great to see a grabber in the deep south, and coverage of
the 505 beacons included, which to me is perhaps the most interesting
aspect of the use for these things
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>having now built 2 of the softrock systems,=
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recommend them for use as grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they=20
interface directly with the PC soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by=
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Spectrum lab (or software of your choice that supports I &amp; Q input). Wit=
h a=20
bog standard soundcard you can get a display of +- 20 odd KHz from the centr=
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freq. There is no AGC problem, as observed on other grabbers, and current=20
consumption in minimal (about 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I had a=20
problem that turned out to be the antenna). I received my kit a few days bef=
ore=20
Christmas, so a grabber can be set up in a reasonable timescale!</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These units are available direct from Tony=20=
Parks=20
KB9YIG&nbsp; <A href=3D"mailto:raparks@ctcisp.com">raparks%ctcisp.com</A>&nb=
sp;$13=20
inc shipping&nbsp;if I recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply=20
substitute a cheap 4MHz crystal&nbsp;for the one supplied) coverage is the=20
500KHz +- 20 KHz, I have chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able=20=
to=20
distinguish the close spaced beacons around 505</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are kits and they do use some surface=
 mount=20
components, but the end result is a compact and highly effective receiver=20
ideally suited to this application. Mine is even powered directly off the=20
computer 12V line</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be great to see a grabber in the d=
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south, and coverage of the 505&nbsp;beacons included, which to me is perhaps=
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Dear LF Group

The M0BMU WOLF 20 beacon is now (2210utc) running again on 503.800kHz. Any
reports welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hi Laurence!

3dx01588.jpg - "O" it's my sygnal dfcw120 shift 0.2 Hz

73
Dmitry
RA3YO
> 
> Ive cached a couple of the more interesting shots of the Circa 136.318 Khz  over the period  window to:-
>  
> http://kl1x.com/3dx01588.jpg
> http://kl1x.com/3dx02186.jpg
>  

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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj


















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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( Visible until 09:10 utc 10:10 loc !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Dear all,

I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,  
guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the  
Shetland grabber.
I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX  
switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays  
and short transmissions.
I will be using my short call: OR7T

73,

Rik

ON7YD - OR7T

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At 04.42 08/01/2008, you wrote:
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
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>73 Warren K2ORS

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Hello Andrej ,

OK !   KO45CN  ( 2137 km ) sry for error !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Andrej a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre and lf
>
>> EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )
>
> Thanks. Loc is KO45CN.
> Good cpi WX 136319.5 but some qsb.
> 73! DX EW6GB
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Yes, that's a good point.  What has failed on the RA1792,  Laurie.
I've got a service manual for that Rx filed away somewhere.

Andy  G4JNT



On 11/01/2008, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not
> AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030
> which
> has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well
> it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most
> of
> the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
> time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,
> never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite
> expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be "bodged" to put
> the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.
>
> I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie's RX
> they
> are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
> service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily
> !!
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver
>
>
> > Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this
> problem
> > of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at
> all
> !
> >
> > I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
> > listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
> > nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point
> and
> > click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
> > having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've
> just
> > never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
> > enough for QRSS as it is.
> >
> > AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
> > constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod
> and
> is
> > always at fixed gain.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on
> LF.
> > > This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a
> replacement
> > > receiver.
> > > This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> > > for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of
> the
> > > receivers
> > > I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of
> these
> > > receivers
> > > is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the
> pass
> > > band
> > > will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal
> could
> > > quite
> > > disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> > > filter so that
> > > signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> > > de-sensitisation, and this
> > > could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> > > Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> > > Or do I look for another R1792
> > >
> > > 73 Laurie G3AQC
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy  G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
>
>
>


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<div>Yes, that&#39;s a good point.&nbsp; What has failed on the RA1792,&nbsp;&nbsp;Laurie.&nbsp; </div>
<div>I&#39;ve got a service manual for&nbsp;that Rx&nbsp;filed away somewhere.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Alan Melia</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">alan.melia@btinternet.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not<br>AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030 which
<br>has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well<br>it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most of<br>the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
<br>time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,<br>never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite<br>expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be &quot;bodged&quot; to put
<br>the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.<br><br>I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie&#39;s RX they<br>are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
<br>service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily !!<br><br>Alan G3NYK<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Andy Talbot&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com
</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:11 PM<br>Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver<br><br><br>&gt; Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
<br>&gt; of non-switchable AGC?&nbsp;&nbsp;It doesn&#39;t sound like a very healthy trend at all<br>!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most<br>&gt; listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
<br>&gt; nicer to use than the RA1792.&nbsp;&nbsp;And infinitley better to tune with point<br>and<br>&gt; click on the waterfall display.&nbsp;&nbsp;The only thing it suffers from is not<br>&gt; having a clock locked to a master reference.&nbsp;&nbsp; Needs 
66.667MHz and I&#39;ve<br>just<br>&gt; never got round to making a locked clock yet.&nbsp;&nbsp;But its probably stable<br>&gt; enough for QRSS as it is.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
<br>&gt; constant.&nbsp;&nbsp; The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and<br>is<br>&gt; always at fixed gain.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">
laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>&gt; &gt; This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
<br>&gt; &gt; receiver.<br>&gt; &gt; This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques<br>&gt; &gt; for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of<br>the<br>&gt; &gt; receivers
<br>&gt; &gt; I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp;&nbsp;facility.This means that if one of<br>these<br>&gt; &gt; receivers<br>&gt; &gt; is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the<br>pass<br>&gt; &gt; band
<br>&gt; &gt; will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal<br>could<br>&gt; &gt; quite<br>&gt; &gt; disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital<br>&gt; &gt; filter so that<br>
&gt; &gt; signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce<br>&gt; &gt; de-sensitisation, and this<br>&gt; &gt; could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>&gt; &gt; Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
<br>&gt; &gt; Or do I look for another R1792<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 73 Laurie G3AQC<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a>
<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Ok Alan,

This is a quartzlock, model 2A . I get a good signal on 198, im using it at 
the moment , be intresting to  se if anyone detects any change in frequency, 
but of course the signal is derived from the 800 hz tone from the sound 
card, so that may drift as well , been running 6 hours so  should be warmed 
up

Using the 'triggering scope' method of comparing frequency's  i can observe 
a change about a fixed point , so ive set for the mid point , which looks to 
be correct , todate im not totally sure what level of 'change' im observing 
.. hihi

G ..


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> Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
> It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
> quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
> measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 
> 10^10
> and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
> direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
> 1250a....very nice.
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> Ok Alan,
>>
>> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
>> ppl that is .. not the bbc
>> ... but by how much , im not sure
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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>>
>>
>> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> > Alan G3NYK
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
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>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>> >
>> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>> >
>> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>> >
>> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>> >
>> > tnx - Graham .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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BEACON QRT  0150  HRS

TNX

G ..


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> Ok Alan,
>
> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the 
> ppl that is .. not the bbc
> ... but by how much , im not sure
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>> Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> Alan G3NYK
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>>
>> Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>>
>> Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>>
>> intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>>
>> tnx - Graham .
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 




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Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Uwe, LF,
>
> WX tonight from 2010 to 2040utc.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Hi Gary,
thanks for the report/pic. makes 799km.
regards
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Hi All, my grabber is now back on line after a short break while I was away.
The UPS failed and my wife had to disconnect it to stop the high pitched 
alarm.
Hope to update my webpage (primarily with an updated link to John GM4SLV's 
grabber), when the ISP sorts the ftp server, which has been innaccessible 
for some time now.
Regards
Mark GM4ISM 



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Hi Uwe,

> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
> is there a vote against it?
> Regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
are transmitting in the T/A window.

73
Hartmut



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Jean-Pierre,

> What is transmission !
> 20:00 >> 20:30 on ~137.776/137.777
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


EW6GB in QSO with UA4WPF

73
Hartmut
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Absolutely wonderful!

73
Johan SM6LKM

K2ORS wrote:
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
> 
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS



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OK0EMW, DI2AM, SM6BHZ in Moscow last night

full report:
www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html

73!
Roman

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>
> DI2AM -104dBm
> OK0EMW - 117dBm
>
> Armchair (aural) copy.
>
> Slow QSB
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

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Hello John,

GM4SLV schrieb:
> I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
>
>   
Got a few bits on 502.x a few minutes ago, but 80 meters seems is almost 
dead (within EU) at the time of day. Just an EA5... on 3550 kHz deep in 
the QSB.

Still listening for a short while, now with the FT-897, but soon off for 
zzz...

Cheers,
 Wolf .


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Hello Johan!

I would like to send you a special QSL for reception of OK0EMW signals.
Your address is not in HamCall, so can you give me any information about
it? And what is your QRA locator, please?

GL on 500kHz band!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Subject: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM

Received on 80m dipole:

DI2AM -104dBm
OK0EMW - 117dBm

Armchair (aural) copy.

Slow QSB

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Hi John,

Thanks for the info...
>
> I heard you call on 80m and replied on 502.1. You weren't very strong
> (439 at best) on 80m but then you disappeared completely.
>
> Heard you again just now at 22:39, I called but no reply again.
> Conditions not good on either band?
>
> Better luck another night/
>
> Now QRT
>
>   
... RRR ... I thought I heard my callsign on 502.1 kHz but wasn't 
totally sure. By the time I was ready to transmit on 80 and receive on 
600 m (with an antenna swicth), the QRM had returned. I will try which 
antenna works best for RX on 500 kHz here, either an active E-field 
antenna or magnetic loop, so I can receive permanently on 500 kHz (even 
while transmitting on 80).

So hpe cul,

73,  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Hello Andy,


About the SDR-IQ (I'm also a pleased owner of it)...
> The only thing it suffers from is not having a clock locked to a 
> master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've just never got round 
> to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable enough for QRSS 
> as it is.
I had the same concern when we used it for a 10 GHz radio-astronomy 
experiment. A simple solution without a PLL:

10 MHz (from reference osc)
divided by 3 , then (using analog frequency doublers etc):
 * 2 * 2 * 5  = 66.66666.. MHz

But, especially for LF / MF, the SDR-IQ's clock oscillator is 
surprisingly stable.


Cheers,
   Wolf DL4YHF .

/3  =: 3.33333
66.6666/20  =: 3.33333


>  
> AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume 
> constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod 
> and is always at fixed gain.
>  
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>  
> On 11/01/2008, *lawrence mayhead* <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com 
> <mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes
>     on LF.
>     This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a
>     replacement receiver.
>     This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP
>     techniques
>     for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal.
>     None of the receivers
>     I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one
>     of these receivers
>     is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within
>     the pass band
>     will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak
>     signal could quite
>     disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the
>     digital filter so that
>     signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
>     de-sensitisation, and this
>     could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
>     Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
>     Or do I look for another R1792   
>
>     73 Laurie G3AQC
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt <http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt> 



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Ok Sorry about that , Just had short break , working Chris G3XIZ on rtty
Good signal from him tonight into  merseyside , think thats the best 
overland
dx so  far hihi (two way qso)

Wolf is back on and running till past 2400 hrs ,

Tnx -

Graham ..





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> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
>> Running WOLF Beacon
>> 502.8 khz
>> 10 bit rate
>> (tx usb if that matters?)
>>
>> Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> Graham
>> G0NBD / io83lk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
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>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




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Hi Mark, LF,

Just tried the grabber & all is well now, image size just right, refresh in 
1 second, well done.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Gents,
> The connection here is cable, some  'limits' on the data transfer (325Mb 
> upload) 4pm-9pm the upload connection gets throttled back to 128Kb/S, and 
> download to 1Mb/S.. normally I am on 4Mb/S and I thing 512 MB/s up
> Not sure how often that happens..
> The JPG settings were set to max, an I have tweaked these down now, 50% 
> quality seem adequate.
> I have also reduced the size of the capture window. It seems to default to 
> the size of the window displayed, and I had it locked at full screen.
> Now reduced to about 800 by 600 The filesize has dropped significantly to 
> about 90Kb from about 600Kb
> I have set the default time for the 2 pages differently too, and added a 
> dropdown selection of refresh times
> this will be live shortly!
> 73s
> mark GM4ISM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>
>
>> Hi Wolf,
>>
>> Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
>> secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
>> immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 
>> 60 secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.
>>
>> My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb 
>> but up & down loads are much slower than that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>>>
>>> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
>>> the bottom of the screen).
>>> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
>>> rate, there was not a single error.
>>>
>>> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
>>> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>  Wolf .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
>> 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 02/01/2008 11:29
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 02/01/2008 11:29
>
>
>
> 




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Hallo Finbar and LFers!
I listened your QSO with Mal, G3KEV. Your signal was 449 / QSB
 
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G3XIZ  RTTY , 502 KHZ 100 P/C  COPY=20

rst  559     no  qsb  good signal=20

Called back on same frequency , no reply :(

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G0NBD - IO83LK=20

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LF,

Who owns the other data signal on about 502.750 KHz.

Unable to decode using available standards !!

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Rick that is surprising as I find them very directional and that the 1000' on the whole 
has worked better than the 2000' but that could just be propagation. The 1000' is N/S 
and the 2000' is E/W.

Anything heard on the N/S is usually nulled on the E/W and vice versa.

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Hello,
I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
Freq. ~137.690KHz
I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
calling?

Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
to hear DK8ND.=20

Thanks
Vy73

Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de

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Hi Rik,
......................
> For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to 
> 500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a 
> small antenna.
......................
I use a version of G3YXM/G0MRF  PA (four IRFP450) for 137kHz and 
505kHz. If used
on 505kHz, I have to disconnect the diodes D4 and D5 (G0MRF design). they form
the 1010kHz rectangular drive signal into ?needles?.

????????.
> - values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)
????????
pse see

http://www.uwe-jannsen-dj8wx.de/TX%20equipment.htm

regards and have fun

Uwe/dj8wx







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Hello,
last night here also a good copy of DI2BO.=20
Geri, i think you still running a little bit more power?
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 02 January 2008 22:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO


It is a nice signal, isn=B4t it!
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Lubos, OK2BVG

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 January 2008 22:36<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks  for  the reception reports from last night. I will be runing the
WOLF 20 beacon again tonight on 503.800kHz from about 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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John,

> I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you 
> think that was happening at your end?

yes, that was happening at my end. The soundfiles were recorded with a
homemade sdr. The LO has only a simple crystal, works good for CW and
QRSS3 but not for WOLF. With this rx I'm recording the whole 500 kHz
band every night between 21:00 and 06:00. When Jim announced the WOLF
transmission I was already sleeping. So I used the recorded soundfiles
for the decoding during the day.

73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp 



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Many thanks for this Tracey!


Quoting Tracey Gardner <tracey.gardner@talktalk.net>:

> According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg
>
> 73s Tracey
>
> He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier her=
e.
> Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss
> his
> locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have th=
is
> info for him.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>
>






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Hi Lubos, LF,

I will continue with the test transmission until I retire to bed which will 
be about 2300 to 2330 utc.

There may be some short breaks but the transmission will be back continuous 
from 2200 utc.

The CW ID is now 12 wpm.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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> Hello Gary and LFers!
> I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
> will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
> receiver will be ON.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> *****************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:32 PM
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> Subject: LF: 500KHz test
>
> Hi LF,
>
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
> 




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I tried a beverage here on 80 M (about 600ft long) and found it quite
directional and low noise,
by the way it was only 1m high and went mainly through dense shrubs and
trees,over clay soil.
I tried a second one on the sea shore only a few feet from salt water and it
was very poor directionally.
Beverage theory seems to require  lossy ground under the ant.
73 Laurie.

On 23/01/2008, Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> "Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded
> areas? "...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.
>
> thanks
> Laurence
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> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:04:25 -0900
> Subject: LF: Low long wires
>
>
>
>
> Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n
> failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground
> just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable
> speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable
> supplied.
>
> Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded
> area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but
> supported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have
> wires up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at
> around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment)
> lake.
>
> So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in
> this type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does
> anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded
> areas?  On the TX side I see this without a lot of  clearing as another
> large TX loop experience - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for
> verticals at the moment.
>
> Laurence
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I tried a beverage here on  80 M (about 600ft long) and found it quite directional and low noise,<br>by the way it was only 1m high and went mainly through dense shrubs and trees,over clay soil.<br>I tried a second one on the sea shore only a few feet from salt water and it was very poor directionally.
<br>Beverage theory seems to require&nbsp; lossy ground under the ant.<br>73 Laurie.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 23/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Laurence KL1X</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">
hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br>&quot;Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas? &quot;...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.
<br><br>thanks<br>Laurence<br>Singapore<br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:04:25 -0900<br>Subject: LF: Low long wires<br><br><br><br><br>Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.
<br><br>Im going to put &quot;down&quot; or it is &quot;up&quot; a couple in a heavily birch wooded area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but supported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wires up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.
<br><br>So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nbsp;&nbsp;On the TX side I see this without a lot of&nbsp;&nbsp;clearing as another large TX loop experience - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment.
<br><br>Laurence<br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now!<br><br>_________________________________________________________________
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Dear all,

I am looking for short term antenna and TX possibilities on 500 kHz.

For the antenna I have 2 options:

1. a T-antenna 7m high and 10m top
Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.13 Ohm radiation resistance. On 
137kHz the loss resistance was about 140 Ohm (a lot of trees), based 
on Jim's information I expect that it drops to about one third (+/- 
50 Ohm, how convenient) on 500 kHz.
The "gain" should be somewhere around -20dBb.

2. a loop 7m high and 15m long
Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.005 Ohm radiation resistance and 0.35 
Ohm copper loss (using 4mm wire).
If there are no additional losses the "gain" is about -16dBd.
But the loop would be slung through trees and at the lower side about 
0.5m above ground. Any idea what additional losses are to be expected?

The loop will be in east-west so the null will be north-south (sorry 
Gus), what would be OK for the UK, most of Germany and Central Europe 
on surface wave. I guess that for high angle ionospheric propagations 
the nulls will disappear more or less

Figures tell me that loop is as good or better that the T-antenna. 
Anyone to support that or to advice me otherwise ?

For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to 
500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a 
small antenna.
Any experience in that direction ?
In particular:
- what is the efficiency using IRF350's (on 137kHz I get > 80%)
- values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)
- I use a TV HV-transformer core at the output (for balancing and 
matching to 50 Ohm). It works well on 136 kHz, but on 500 kHz ?

An alternative would be to use my TS440. I know that cutting 1 diode 
allows it to transmit over the entire range, but can it be used as 
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Dear all,<br><br>
I am looking for short term antenna and TX possibilities on 500
kHz.<br><br>
For the antenna I have 2 options:<br><br>
<b>1. a T-antenna 7m high and 10m top<br>
</b>Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.13 Ohm radiation resistance. On
137kHz the loss resistance was about 140 Ohm (a lot of trees), based on
Jim's information I expect that it drops to about one third (+/- 50 Ohm,
how convenient) on 500 kHz.<br>
The &quot;gain&quot; should be somewhere around -20dBb.<br><br>
<b>2. a loop 7m high and 15m long<br>
</b>Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.005 Ohm radiation resistance and 0.35
Ohm copper loss (using 4mm wire).<br>
If there are no additional losses the &quot;gain&quot; is about -16dBd.
<br>
But the loop would be slung through trees and at the lower side about
0.5m above ground. Any idea what additional losses are to be
expected?<br><br>
The loop will be in east-west so the null will be north-south (sorry
Gus), what would be OK for the UK, most of Germany and Central Europe on
surface wave. I guess that for high angle ionospheric propagations the
nulls will disappear more or less<br><br>
Figures tell me that loop is as good or better that the T-antenna. Anyone
to support that or to advice me otherwise ?<br><br>
For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to
500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a
small antenna.<br>
Any experience in that direction ? <br>
In particular: <br>
- what is the efficiency using IRF350's (on 137kHz I get &gt; 80%)<br>
- values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)<br>
- I use a TV HV-transformer core at the output (for balancing and
matching to 50 Ohm). It works well on 136 kHz, but on 500 kHz ?<br><br>
An alternative would be to use my TS440. I know that cutting 1 diode
allows it to transmit over the entire range, but can it be used as low as
500 kHz ?<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<BR>
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Dear Rik,

Thanks for the QSO last night. Your signals are consistently stronger this
evening, and you seem to have stirred up quite a lot of activity on 500! The
band sounds more like 80 metres at the moment!

Stations heard in the last hour or so:- GI4PDN 569, G3DXZ 559, OR7T 569/QSB,
GW4HXO 549/deep QSB, G3ZWH 579, M0KHW 589 (new one for me,) G0MRF beacon.

Great stuff!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: LF: First night on 600m


Dear all,

a short overview of my first night on 600m:
- 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
- reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
- heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)

As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get
QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The
PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's
are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods
short. Output = 120 W.
Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil
at the top. Calculated Rrad = 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so
theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees
close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is
far less, maybe 0.3 W.
Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation
when it is raining.

I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get
interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and
meanwhile I will try to
- build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
- improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).

73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)


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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:38:24 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs 
> 
> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME

Graham, LF

Signal faded up on grabber at around 18:50

Here's a decode from 18:54z


RYRWCYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST EDE G0NBD  G0NBEYV0,?$ 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQICQIP  TEFT  DEHG0BD  G0NBD G0NBD 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQH OEST  DE G0ND G0NBD G0/,?$ 

And from 18:56z

RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ C CQ  TEST SDE G0NBD  G0NBD GGPNBD 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST DE 1N$)0/&=?46464646464646 C CQ CQ  EST
DE G0ND  G0NBD G8NBD 


Sone errors, but on the whole readable(?)

Cheers
-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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I can see, what looks like a modulated signal  on  503.500  , but what mode 
is it ???

tnx

G .. 




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I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW

 

Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL

www.kc3ol.com

 

 

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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45
mins till sun up.
 
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
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am transmitting on that freq.&nbsp; my ID is XYW<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
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WD2XYW, KC3OL<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> LF: 137.7772<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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John,

heard you 559 calling CQ.
Much better than the 339 during our QSO.
Going QRT now, tomorrows wakeup is at 05.00 UTC.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:37:27 +0100
> Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> .. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local
>> QRM.
>>
>> 73,
>>   Wolf DL4YHF
>>
>> (still hoping for xband.. )
>>
>
> Gus is 599+ here too, but he can't seem to here Rik's replies!
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> I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
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> Cheers,
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> John
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> --
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
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Hello Giday,

Thank you for your explanations, I think my problem is local! (just a=20
few km in the neighborhoods) that will be difficult to find, I will see=20
whether I to make raisings little. Let us hope for how that will stop as=20
it came!!!!!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

gboorerzl3pn a =E9crit :
> Giday there  Jean-Pierre  ..Noise is all part of LF  130=20
> -190khz...generally if it comes in at evening it lets you know the=20
> ionesphere is working down at that frequency ..IT could be some=20
> thousand miles away where it is generated...lightning storms the arc=20
> from a discharge is a very long radiator its the perfect antennae for=20
> low frequency  hihi....during daylite hours noise from lightning=20
> travels also a good distance by ground wave...that big antennae=20
> again...some days smooth noise seems to come from ionesphere...why i=20
> dont no...perhaps its haarp harping about  hi...73s from nucular free=20
> New-Zealand....kia-ora
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:38 AM
> Subject: LF: [137] QRM !
>
>
>> Hello all on LF ,
>>
>> I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
>> the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
>> disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
>> but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
>> because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
>> to see the captures in the file with :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>> --=20
>> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech


73 Warren K2ORS


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John,

Have been testing since 1500 , and oddly the signals looked quite good at 
that time of day on your plot , unlike last night, looks to  of faded out ?

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>>
>> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>>
>>
>
>
> Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
> in Shetland!
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> Great to hear both sigs at the same time.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> Clousta
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Graham,

> Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no 
> idea if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, 
> that's unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works , 

Perhaps with the higher ERP's over here we are getting better results, 
as excellent winter-time copy with FEC has been fairly easy over long 
distances.

If suitable ARQ software materializes, we'll be happy to put it through 
its paces. My T/R setup would certainly need some redesigning, first! Clunk!

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Hello Mark,

I guess the problem with the Javascrip refresh method is this:

The javascript begins to update the screen, regardless of the transfer 
speed. Even if the previous update isn't finished, it begins a new 
update. If, for example, the transfer of the image requires 25 seconds, 
but the Javascript tries to update it every 2 seconds, there will be 
endless activity but no new screen because the embedded image is only 
update when it's complete (this reduces flicker, and is the main 
difference between the javascript page, and the simple java-less page 
which updates itself through an html meta tag) .

What Graham could try is to enter a larger value in the "Refresh 
Interval" box at the bottom of the screen (on Mark's "index" page with 
the 500 kHz spectrogram). For example, set the update interval to 30 
seconds (the default was 2 seconds, which was my mistake, because 2 
second refresh only works through a local network).

As long as you permanently see the message "transferrig data from 
82.something" on the bottom of your browser (but never the "Ready"), you 
know that your browser requests the image too often. With 30 second 
refresh, I get a stable periodic refresh from Mark's MF viewer.

If we have a Javascript expert here: Any idea how a Javascript (embedded 
in an HTML document) can detect if all embedded graphics have been 
updated ? In that case, the "refresh" interval could be restarted after 
the previous refresh is finished.


Best regards,
  Wolfgang "Wolf" DL4YHF .

Graham schrieb:
> Mark,
>  
> Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the 
> screen, which is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  
> click on the 'slow' link ..
>  
> Graham ..
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Mark <mailto:markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
>     *Subject:* LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>
>     Gents,
>     Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a
>     new beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of
>     multiple users getting partial images.
>     After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed
>     down, rather as expected.
>     Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
>     The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum
>     height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and
>     many signals were visible last night.
>     I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily
>     on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather
>     permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main
>     antenna.
>      
>     I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV
>     offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration
>     of the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is
>     far enough away from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for
>     the experiment. It is also a testing ground for possible similar
>     systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation indication.
>      
>     any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
>     Regards
>     Mark GM4ISM
>     www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
>     follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber
>     link.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     No virus found in this incoming message.
>     Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>     Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date:
>     1/2/2008 11:29
>



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yes that metheod works well clear of city areas and  clear of ac ground 
currents...our ozie mates a vk7 used that to recieve  kiwi lf sigs on 181.4 
khz  cw freguency nz..normal real time cw  .He was located portable up on Mt 
wellington tasmania ozie..several thousand feet of wire grounded one end and 
fed other..he sent video and sound tapes of our sigs...IT works as a 
magnetic loop..very effective  .LF has gone quiet in zl..many of the old 
timers with lf permits have died or in rest homes..but some old kiwi buggers 
like me keep pressing on...bye george zl3pn timaru ..ps time to sit and look 
at aoraki-mt cook and remember our sir  ed..hes our memories.. kia-ora
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
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Subject: LF: Fenceline longwire


> Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
> I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
> an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
> 3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
> feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
> The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
> a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
> cedar tree at ground level.
>
> The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
> QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
> off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
> and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
> is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
> inverted V.
>
> On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
> with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
> or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
> around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
> The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
> noise on the longwire.
>
> Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
> result, if that's the only option you've got!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>
>
> 




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On Tuesday 08 January 2008 04:42, K2ORS wrote:
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
>

Someone interested in building vacuum tubes?

Here you can download many interesting books about processes and material used 
to make vacuum tubes, including internal use RCA manuals.

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm


73 de Claudio , IK2PII

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Tnx Paul for the report, condx good tonite. 73 de Mal/G3KEV

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LF

G3KEV 599 calling CQ on 502.5kHz

A big signal atm!

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J.B.,

    I believe that the GAP line of amateur verticals does something very 
similar.

73 Warren K2ORS

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> Hello Lowfers & LFers,
>
> My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
> as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
> very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
> is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.
>
> It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
> the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
> and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
> is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
> the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial 
> line
> which in turn varies the inductance.
>
> Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
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> 



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Okay Rick on ultrasonics...Had a practical experience with that with the bre=
ak up of kidney stones by ultasonics...Called here the lithotrypsey machine=20=
or name like it....they zerode.. in on my kidney stones and smashed them int=
o smaller pieces ..i kept awake and watched the procedure a weird thing but=20=
it works well....73s  george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
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  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:24 PM
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  George,

  ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher frequen=
cy) that change the density of the medium. A complete different mechanism th=
an electromagnetic waves.
  If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and eventual=
ly boil. Nothing to be stunned about.
  Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage is t=
hat the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.
  Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to microw=
ave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very expensive to=20=
build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.

  73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

  At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:

    hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has got=
 a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after a=
 short period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It has s=
tunned professors and science standards...he wont let on much...thats the mi=
llion dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the highfreqency audio electr=
ic current is heating the water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn


  Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more info=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: water heated by=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>George,<BR><BR>ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like=
=20
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Big=20
  advantage is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local=20
  heating.<BR>Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternativ=
e"=20
  to microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very=20
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Subject: LF:  XDV beacon 136.318.8 khz
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Hello all.
Capture last night  22.30z.
Whose this beacon?
Thank you.
73!

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Dear Group,

The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
to about 184.005 kHz.  Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
the inductance in the class E TX had to be tuned.

The beacon tranmits a 5 minute QRSS60 message every 15 minutes.

Any signal reports will be greatly appreciated.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Jean-Pierre,

 Thank you for the report!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ




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> Hello  all on LF ,
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> Last night i copy  :
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> The captures of night are with this URL :
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Decoded from a soundfile:

04:00 UTC
t:  12 f:-1.300 a: 0.4 dp:112.9 ci: 0 cj:410 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  24 f:-1.302 a: 0.5 dp:113.7 ci:15 cj:411 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  48 f:-1.304 a: 0.5 dp:114.2 ci: 0 cj:410 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  96 f:-1.309 pm: 6541 jm:139 q:  5.8  6.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 144 f:-1.309 pm:11458 jm:139 q:  7.8  8.1 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 192 f:-1.309 pm:15344 jm:139 q:  9.0  9.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 240 f:-1.309 pm:19284 jm:139 q: 10.1 10.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 288 f:-1.309 pm:21373 jm:139 q: 10.5 10.6 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 336 f:-1.309 pm:21888 jm:139 q: 10.3 10.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 384 f:-1.309 pm:22043 jm:139 q:  9.9 10.1 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 432 f:-1.309 pm:22189 jm:139 q:  9.9  9.7 M0BMU WOLF 20   -

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp 



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Hello Luc,

Finbar is sending his call followed by a dash.
He is 30 dB over my noise floor in Middelburg, JO11tm.
However the signal suffers from heavy fading.

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Hi LF-ers

Both signals are audible in J021af

I believe i decoded DI2AM and OK0EMW=20

RX  TS440S    =20
Ant :  home made mini whip
Soft  : SpecLab=20

73's de ON4AOL ,Luc

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ant :&nbsp; home made mini whip</FONT></DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Soft&nbsp; : SpecLab </FONT></DIV>
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Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,
trans- polar routes.
BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don't doubt that several Mw
directed  at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am
surprised
that more people did'nt hear it, is this the purpose ?
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Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,<br>trans- polar routes.<br>BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don&#39;t doubt that several Mw<br>directed&nbsp; at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am surprised
<br>that more people did&#39;nt hear it, is this the purpose ?<br>So I am confused, can anyone help ?<br>73 Laurie <br>

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559 in IO93cn, band very low noise at the moment.
 
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1.1.2008 20.35UTC

Heard G3ROO, G3XIZ and GI4DPE in QSO on 502.6kHz

Discussing tests on 136.5kHz... my CW skills weren't enough to follow at the=
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conversation speed.

All three 559 signals in QSB peaks.


Good beginning of the new year!

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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HI LF,

Do someone see something in Europe ??

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Dear Wolf, LF Group,

Thanks for  the report from last night. I will run the beacon again on
503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode, from around 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Nw calling cq on 502.4 khz for xband qso de Mal/G3KEV


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Thanks Xtian,
I have ordered some from there and some ferrite rods to make up the
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73=20

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Hello,
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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and
Warren for suggestions
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050,
both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to
take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.
I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound
card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ?
at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
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73 Laurie.

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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<br>and my problems with my 1792.<br>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e&#39;bay lead, and Warren for suggestions
<br>re alternative Rx&#39;s.<br>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<br>So I have been looking around!<br>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
<br>The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.  <br>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won&#39;t tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO 
etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming 
to the end of its production.<br>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time.
Perhaps Andy can help?<br>So I am still looking<br>73 Laurie.<br> 

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Hello  all on LF ,

Happy new year to everyone !

Last night i copy  :

G3XDV
DF6NM
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WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

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GI4DPE is sending only callsign normal CW and a short carrier. You must be h=
earing another station sending happy new year or you have a great imaginatio=
n!!!!!
Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hi LF-ers

  Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
  I heard it very deep in the noise=20

  73's de ON4AOL , Luc
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: mal=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:26 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


    Lubos
    GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
    73 Mal/G3KEV

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
      Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


      Hallo Finbar and LFers!

      I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

      =20

      Have a nice weekend!

      =20

      Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE is sending only callsign normal CW&n=
bsp;and=20
a short carrier. You must be hearing another station sending happy new year=20=
or=20
you have a great imagination!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5=
px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora.b=
e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: [500]=20
  GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DP=
E sends=20
  happy newyear in CW ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73's de ON4AOL , Luc</FONT></DIV>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:=
26=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [500]=20
    GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode a=
ll day=20
    at NORMAL CW not qrs.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz         href=3D"mailto:lubomir.boba=
lik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008=20=
6:06=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hallo Finbar and=20
      LFers!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can see your signal quite=20
      soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P=
>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have a nice=20
      weekend!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lubos, OK2BVG,=20
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LF

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss h=
is
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

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Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:08:58 -0000
> "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Does anyone have an e-mail address for Doug, G3ZWH? I had a QSO with
> > him earlier, and said I would send him some info.
>
>
> I'd also appreciate the info as I've heard him several times over the
> last week or so and despite many, many calls he's always failed to hear
> me. At least an email would let him know he's making the trip to the
> outer reaches of the Empire!
>
> I suppose a QSL to the address listed on QRZ.COM would also suffice.
>
> Cheers,
>
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>
>




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Gents,
having now built 2 of the softrock systems, I can recommend them for use as=20=
grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they interface directly with the PC=
 soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by Spectrum lab (or software of=20=
your choice that supports I & Q input). With a bog standard soundcard you ca=
n get a display of +- 20 odd KHz from the centre freq. There is no AGC probl=
em, as observed on other grabbers, and current consumption in minimal (about=
 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I had a problem that turned out to be=
 the antenna). I received my kit a few days before Christmas, so a grabber c=
an be set up in a reasonable timescale!
These units are available direct from Tony Parks KB9YIG  raparks%ctcisp.com=20=
$13 inc shipping if I recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply substi=
tute a cheap 4MHz crystal for the one supplied) coverage is the 500KHz +- 20=
 KHz, I have chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able to distingui=
sh the close spaced beacons around 505
These are kits and they do use some surface mount components, but the end re=
sult is a compact and highly effective receiver ideally suited to this appli=
cation. Mine is even powered directly off the computer 12V line
It would be great to see a grabber in the deep south, and coverage of the 50=
5 beacons included, which to me is perhaps the most interesting aspect of th=
e use for these things
substitute @ for % on Tony's email address.
Cheers
Mark GM4ISM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave Pick=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 grabbers


  Chaps

  On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 i=
s on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit a=
nd display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the=
 bottom before!)=20

  73

  --=20
  G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>having now built 2 of the softrock systems,=
 I can=20
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interface directly with the PC soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by=
=20
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Parks=20
KB9YIG&nbsp; <A href=3D"mailto:raparks@ctcisp.com">raparks%ctcisp.com</A>&nb=
sp;$13=20
inc shipping&nbsp;if I recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply=20
substitute a cheap 4MHz crystal&nbsp;for the one supplied) coverage is the=20
500KHz +- 20 KHz, I have chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able=20=
to=20
distinguish the close spaced beacons around 505</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are kits and they do use some surface=
 mount=20
components, but the end result is a compact and highly effective receiver=20
ideally suited to this application. Mine is even powered directly off the=20
computer 12V line</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be great to see a grabber in the d=
eep=20
south, and coverage of the 505&nbsp;beacons included, which to me is perhaps=
 the=20
most interesting aspect of the use for these things</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>substitute @ for % on Tony's email=20
address.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Ddaveyxm@googlemail.com href=3D"mailto:daveyxm@googlemail.com">D=
ave=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Chaps<BR><BR>On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the=20
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ns I=20
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I dont think so  .. he is sending his call , followed by a long carrier burs=
t ,  there is 'no'  data in the burst=20

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20

  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hi LF-ers

  Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
  I heard it very deep in the noise=20

  73's de ON4AOL , Luc
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: mal=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:26 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


    Lubos
    GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
    73 Mal/G3KEV

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
      Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


      Hallo Finbar and LFers!

      I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

      =20

      Have a nice weekend!

      =20

      Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont think so&nbsp; .. he is sending his=20=
call ,=20
followed by a long carrier burst ,&nbsp; there is 'no'&nbsp; data in the bur=
st=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora.b=
e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: [500]=20
  GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DP=
E sends=20
  happy newyear in CW ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73's de ON4AOL , Luc</FONT></DIV>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:=
26=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [500]=20
    GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode a=
ll day=20
    at NORMAL CW not qrs.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz         href=3D"mailto:lubomir.boba=
lik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008=20=
6:06=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hallo Finbar and=20
      LFers!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can see your signal quite=20
      soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P=
>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have a nice=20
      weekend!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lubos, OK2BVG,=20
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Giday there  Jean-Pierre  ..Noise is all part of LF  130 -190khz...generally 
if it comes in at evening it lets you know the ionesphere is working down at 
that frequency ..IT could be some thousand miles away where it is 
generated...lightning storms the arc from a discharge is a very long 
radiator its the perfect antennae for low frequency  hihi....during daylite 
hours noise from lightning travels also a good distance by ground 
wave...that big antennae again...some days smooth noise seems to come from 
ionesphere...why i dont no...perhaps its haarp harping about  hi...73s from 
nucular free New-Zealand....kia-ora
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> Hello all on LF ,
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> I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
> the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
> disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
> but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
> because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
> to see the captures in the file with :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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As many of you know, Jay Rusgrove and I have been running tests on a 
variety of keyboard modes for use in the 500 kHz area. Our focus has 
been on modes that work well for casual QSO's and possibly emergency 
communication. Resistance to noise and fading has been a prime 
consideration.

While this is a work in progress, I have posted an article at:
http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm

Comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks very much to all who have 
participated in the tests!

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George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS on=20=
an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundown=20=
Singapore-17Z sunrise ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to Wellington=
.
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If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear fro=
m anyone....
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
Singapore
http://kl1x.xom


From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nzTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sun, 20 J=
an 2008 22:11:46 +1300Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium



Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a qui=
et period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz...ss=
b is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundwaves=
 thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox duri=
ng equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found on lo=
nger distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or dusk.=
..strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7 you=20=
can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband no ca=
rrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird but t=
hat what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Laurence KL1X=20
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Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium
George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mode/=
times etc WIth thanks Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia


From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nzTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 19 J=
an 2008 20:37:10 +1300Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500K=
HZ.. 73S GEORGE

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George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS on=20=
an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundown=20=
Singapore-17Z&nbsp;sunrise&nbsp;ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to=20=
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&nbsp;<BR>
If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear fro=
m anyone....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down her=
e and lf goes into a quiet period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc t=
hursday is 181.4khz...ssb is on 182.7 lsb&nbsp; usally sunday mornings where=
 we bounce strong groundwaves thru mountain ranges with ease...long range ar=
go sigs on 136 khz aprox during equinox times&nbsp; sigs get into canada and=
 russia areas..we have found on longer distance propagation peaks when one s=
ide of contact is in dawn or dusk...strange things happen on ssb when ioensp=
here is working down at 182.7 you can get extreme selective fading..u can sw=
itch then to double sideband no carrier and the chap picks out which side is=
 the strongest..sounds weird but that what happens on lf..if ioensphere kick=
s in...73s george zl3pn</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Jim,

Glad to receive you from my home QTH on 500 kHz for the very first time.
One of the neighbours moved out, and he seems to have taken the 
strongest source of QRM with him ;-)

Here we are (time in UTC):

2008-01-22 22:14:15 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 2 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-1.282 a: 0.7 dp: 43.9 ci: 0 cj:  0 AZ9KBCOCPQA*WIK ?
t:  24 f:-0.267 a: 0.7 dp: 42.7 ci:10 cj:455 1JMKBZ???QHYIRJ ?
t:  48 f:-0.267 a: 0.7 dp: 41.8 ci:14 cj: 82 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  96 f:-0.273 pm:0.534 jm:796 q: -2.0 -0.9 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 144 f:-0.254 pm:1.119 jm:796 q:  1.6  1.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 192 f:-0.254 pm:1.885 jm:796 q:  2.5  2.5 M0BMU WOLF 20   -


Good luck everyone,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
> from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
> 2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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Laurie,

   From among my own receivers, I find that the Cubic 3280 is a very good DS=
P receiver AND you can shut the AGC off.
For non-DSP, the newer RACALs such as the 6830 work great and have switchabl=
e AGC.
An SLM such as the 3586 is a good choice if all you don't need an AM detecto=
r.

I agree with the comments on the R75 and AOR 7030- but both benefit from add=
ing the cw filters.

If price is no object QST claims that the Icom R-9500 is one of the best eve=
r in terms of strong signal handling (though I can't confirm this from perso=
nal experience yet).

73 Warren K2ORS


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:45 PM
  Subject: LF: LF Receiver


  I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
  This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement re=
ceiver.
  This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques=20
  for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the=
 receivers=20
  I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these=
 receivers=20
  is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass=20=
band=20
  will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could=20=
quite
  disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filt=
er so that=20
  signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisa=
tion, and this=20
  could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
  Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
  Or do I look for another R1792   =20

  73 Laurie G3AQC

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Laurie,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; From among my own receivers, I=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For non-DSP, the newer RACALs such as the 6=
830 work=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with the comments on the R75 and AO=
R 7030-=20
but both benefit from adding the cw filters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If price is no object QST claims that the I=
com=20
R-9500 is one of the best ever in terms of strong signal handling (though I=20
can't confirm this from personal experience yet).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS=20
  modes on LF.<BR>This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for=20=
a=20
  replacement receiver.<BR>This search reveals a problem most modern receive=
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  <BR>signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce=20
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e=20
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Joe,

Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is 184.006 
kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when Europe 1 on 
183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz tone during 
that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!

John Andrews, W1TAG

jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
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> The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( vy good copy )

Nil of Europ/Asia

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grabber at :
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yes trees will work as lf antennaes..not recomended for trans mitting though 
..not in clean green new-zealand...different ways to couple into trees using 
ferrite  rods....a good sniffer on lf is a few ferrite bc rods wound and 
resonated  onto frequency required..link coupled into a coax cable or even 
elcheapo flat twin power flex..hook other end onto reciever or convertor 
..then place ferrite loop sniffer near different things and here what 
recieves lf....even the humble metal water pipe feeding house water supply 
can pick up all lf beacons in nz.....the sniffer also works great tracking 
where u have buried the thousand and one ground radials in the ground used 
for vertical lf set ups..the current loops the grounding is not that 
important..that will do from me..just built my hf amp 813s as rsgb hand book 
so back to that...heard a whistba i may get 500khz permit...nextweek  well 
never..george zl3pn    hooray for now
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire


> Hi Peter, Rik, LFers,
>
> Thanks for modeling my fenceline longwire and sharing the results.
> I appreciate any input/comments on the antenna, but I have to say
> that I'm rather surprised that nobody questioned or commented
> on my unusual "ground".  Apparently tree roots of conifers can
> be pressed into service when frozen ground prevents driving
> in the usual "earthing stakes".
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
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> 




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In a message dated 17/01/2008 17:52:36 GMT Standard Time,  
markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

Cracking  signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
No sign of MRF, not seen often  here at this hour, and never very strong.
will try to get the main antenna  working this weekend WX permitting
Regards
Mark  GM4ISM



Hi Mark.
 
Yes, it's either an 'interesting' distance from London to you and all of my  
signal is somewhere up in the ionosphere, or there is a noise or  sensitivity 
issue.
The MRF beacon seems to get to Birmingham 24/7 and the shetlands between  
dusk in London and about 9.30UTC, which I would guess is a little after dawn on  
the islands.
 
Interesting though, whatever the cause.
 
Best wishes
 
David



   

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Luc van Achte wrote:

> Hi LFers .
>  
> Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
> I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from 
> OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
> It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
> Anyone ?
>  
>  
> 73  Luc
>  
>  
>  

 Hi Luc,
i had the same problem few weeks ago when i joined the LF group.
your attachments should not  exceed  30 kb  permitted limit
         
                                             73 de peter , sq7mpj  (jo91rs)
                           


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Luc van Achte wrote:<br>
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a picture too the group ;</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I've tried two times to send the
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=C2=A0Hi Luc,<br>
i had the same problem few weeks ago when i joined the LF group. <br>
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r>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>
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Hello John,

sorry to hear that your antennat came down in the storm. I know the feeling,
I have lost my LF/MF antennas during heavy winds a couple of times (if your
antennat didn't comedown during the last storm it was not yet high enough
;-) ... hope you are able to set it up soon.


Your grabber si very helpful to me to observe the signal variations of DI2BO
on 505.015 kHz.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


>
> Hello LF group,
>
> Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
> QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
> busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
>
> Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
> damage.
>
> Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
> (not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
> 10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
> even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
> 4 levels from 2m up to 11m.
>
> This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
> snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
> lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
> replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.
>
> The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
> venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
> abates...
>
>
> Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
> key) in the near future.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>



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G3KEV 599 calling CQ on 502.5kHz

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Hello Jim.
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
2008-01-20 22:51:22  >WOLF10  -r 11025.000 -f 777 -t  1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000 
t:  24 f:-0.969 a: 0.2 dp: 73.4 ci:14 cj:342  M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t:  48 f:-0.960 a:-0.2 dp: 75.5 ci: 5 cj:456  74PQ3TSI7FQSWDP ? 
t:  96 f:-0.963 a: 0.6 dp: 84.3 ci:14 cj:342  M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t: 192  f:-0.967 pm:169.8 jm:277 q:  5.4  5.8 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t: 288  f:-0.967 pm:197.7 jm:277 q:  6.2  6.6 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t: 384  f:-0.967 pm:218.2 jm:277 q:  7.5  7.9 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
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t: 576  f:-0.967 pm:237.6 jm:277 q:  7.9  8.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
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t: 768  f:-0.967 pm:250.6 jm:277 q:  7.5  7.9 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
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t:1344  f:-0.957 pm:317.2 jm:277 q: 10.4 10.8 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t:1440  f:-0.957 pm:335.4 jm:277 q: 11.2 11.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
t:1536  f:-0.957 pm:385.8 jm:277 q: 11.7 11.9 M0BMU WOLF BCN  - 
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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello Uwe,
> 2140-0016z
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=20
The station has reverted to LF 136.318 /137.777 KHz windows on improving con=
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=20
On looking over the Haarp captures (we were  in West Malaysia over the weeke=
nd photoing Baboons and eating some of the strangest material ever). Anyway.=
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Nothing on 6 Mhz but on 7Mhz from around  0800z weakly I have "returns" some=
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=20
Cheers -=20
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&nbsp;<BR>
The station has reverted to LF 136.318 /137.777 KHz&nbsp;windows on improvin=
g conditions tonight.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
On looking over the Haarp&nbsp;captures (we were&nbsp; in West Malaysia over=
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Hi David, LF,

Just for your benefit I will increase the wpm to 12 then you can read the CW 
ID. HI. HI.

Thanks for the report.
Also thanks for reports to John GM4SLV & Mike G3YPE.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Received at S7 at Leeds, Gary, but too slow to read by conventional means. 
> The Morse test I took was at 12wpm ;-)
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> 73
>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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 > PS- Why is my emails with attached files don't send via reflector? The
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Roman,

I don't know... The reflector has a size limit for attachments, about 40kB I 
think, but I don't know if this limit is the actual file size or the size of the 
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, my first 500k report from Finland!

73
Dave G3YXM

On 05/01/2008, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
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> Hello LF!
>
> G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC
> G3KEV 579 replying to him on 502.6kHz
> G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier
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> 73's
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> Vaasa / KP03SD
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, my first 500k report from Finland!<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 05/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Paul-Henrik</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:phl@netikka.fi">phl@netikka.fi
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello LF!<br><br>G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC<br>G3KEV 579 replying to him on 
502.6kHz<br>G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier<br><br>73&#39;s<br><br>Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ<br>Vaasa / KP03SD<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Gents.
clearly visible on peaks of QSB for the first time, DI2BO in QRSS, weak but=20=
visible just below OK0EMW, DI2AG and DI2AM,=20
signals seen on 503 earlier from G0NBD and briefly MRF copied on QRSS. G3KEV=
 earlier still was 20dB over noise on CW
Finbar's beacon peaking 40dB over noise..wow!
All this with the telescopic mast fully collapsed, vertical section about 5m=
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vertical section about 5m high, and not re-matched.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Laurie
  It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. Its much better than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!
  I have been using a Tony Parks KB9YIG Soft Rock SDR RX (about Ł20 kit from WS) for some time now.  I use the excellent free SDR application software from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with Cescos  HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL) VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTEs Multpsk 4.2 decoder software.  Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only the one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay. I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and 96kHz using a high quality int /ext  Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are only about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon frequencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellent mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they are not standard in the Soft rock kit range.
  Good luck,  its been great following the various replies I hope you go for the Soldering Iron and software option. 
  Many thanks to all the Radio Amateurs listed above for making their fantastic work available to us. This great body of work makes my hobby so interesting at a ridiculously low cost.
  Vy 73 to all HNY de petefmt


lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for suggestions 
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. 
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. 
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
So I am still looking
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<div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Hi Laurie</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. Its much better than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>I have been using a </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Tony Parks KB9YIG </SPAN><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Soft Rock SDR RX (about Ł20 kit from WS) for some time now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I use the excellent free SDR application software from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cescos </SPAN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL)
 VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTEs Multpsk 4.2 decoder software.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only the one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay. I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and 96kHz using a high quality int /ext<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are only about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon frequencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellent mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they are not standard in the Soft rock kit range.</FONT></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Good luck, &nbsp;its been great following the various replies I
 hope you go for the Soldering Iron and software option. </FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Many thanks to all the Radio Amateurs listed above for making their fantastic work available to us.&nbsp;This great body of work&nbsp;makes my hobby so interesting at a ridiculously low cost.</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Vy 73 to all HNY de petefmt</FONT></div><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<BR>and my problems with my 1792.<BR>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for suggestions <BR>re alternative Rx's.<BR>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<BR>So I
 have been looking around!<BR>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <BR>The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <BR>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.<BR>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?<BR>So I am still looking<BR>73 Laurie.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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James Moritz wrote:

>Dear LF Group,
>
>Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
>from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
>2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
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>
Hi Jim, LF group
It  was another evening/night  of successful reception  of your WOLF 20 
bit rate transmission.
just to save space  i 've confined  my all screens to the latest one  
including date and time(utc)
and number of necessary iterations  to get a  correct copy:
2008-01-23 00:49:49 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 600 -t 2 -w 0.0000
..................................................
t: 384 f:-0.078 pm:124.2 jm:266 q: -5.5 -5.9 MXCNG9G P92U0   -
t: 432 f:-0.078 pm:140.3 jm:266 q: -4.8 -5.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
my RX setup is exactly the same as described in one of my previous posts 
with   reception report
of  DJ8WX beacon on 137 kHz  except  changed coils  in LC resonating 
circuits.
when the WOLF transmission was in a '10 bit' mode i  got negative copy 
though i have tried only once
 and only one hour or so, therefore ,  there is no statistics needed for 
any reasonable conclusion,
However, at least one observation can be made from my point of view. due 
to my absolutely modest antennae conditions
 with respect to   137 a 500 kHz ( a small loop  inside a noisy 
environment)  the WOLF seems to be a 'state-of-the-art"  among
 wide variety  of weak signal ( and narrow band) modulations. in fact it 
is !  with its lowest S/N  positive  'detection'.
many times i tried to  get a copy of  G stations  TX'ing in different 
modulations  once i even traced Mal, KEV using his favourite
i.e normal CW speed [ :) ] on 502.5 KHz but i never succeeded in correct 
copy  of any modulation  from a transmitting G station until
recent Jim's transmissions. ( the qrb is 1350 km)  So,  my proposal  is 
to put for a day or two another extremely weak signal 'technique'
 i.e JT2 or JT4 mode in a beaconing fashion.   Ok, i know that for most 
of you it will not be necessary  to use the 'bottom-line' and sometimes
 plain CW will suffice to make a qso on LF,MF bands but for me  to get  
that far as G looks like a real TA challenge, hi.
BTW , which G station operates qrss in a beacon mode on 600 meters?

                                                                              
73 de peter, sq7mpj         /jo91rs/




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Finaly managed qso, rtty/rtty !=20
must be the longest over land non linea  rtty yet :)

G ..=20
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  G3XIZ  RTTY , 502 KHZ 100 P/C  COPY=20

  rst  559     no  qsb  good signal=20

  Called back on same frequency , no reply :(

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Hmm...

I make his locator to be JO01FH. (Very close to JO01JG, it has to be said)

Take his Post Code or street name from QRZ.com, and plug it into Flash
Earth, and you can see that Doug's road starts at 51d 19m 14s North, 000d
26m 7s E and runs south to 51d 19m 26s N, 000d 25m 57s E.

http://www.flashearth.com/

Drop these latitudes/longitudes into a Locator program such as the G3NPF
Locator Calculator, and they both fall within the JO01FH descriptor.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~a.wadsworth/index.htm

Sadly, it is not possible to calculate an e-mail address from a Lat/Long!

You'll have to drop him a QSL card instead..

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner
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According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg

73s Tracey

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss
his
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD






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Hi Mike the problem with this is it becomes a narrow band antenna which is
not what JB wants.....It also destroys its action as a "travelling wave"
antenna. It will then be a heavily top-loaded but very low "L" . It might
even be worse than as it is !! I dont know what happens if he uses
distributed loading, it then looks like a low-pass filter!!

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> What if JB put a big loading coil in the fence wire? I would think that
> would work just like our loaded short verticals...Sure there would be
> losses but we have losses in our transmitting antennas also.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>
> Rik Strobbe wrote:
> > J.B. ,
> >
> > I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> > On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset
> > angle.
> > But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
> > offset angle is 78 degrees.
> > It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be
> > long  on 500kHz ...
> > Or does MMANA not work properly ?
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
>



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Jim

Thanks for the info. I've been watching but so far no joy. 

Jay

 
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> Dear Jay, LF Group,
> 
> Normally I leave the beacon running until the morning - around 0900utc. I
> hope to be putting out some kind of signal most nights until my 500k
> experimental permit expires on February 29th.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Jim
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> > What time do you normally shut down?
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> 
> 


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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
> 
> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Thanks for the QSO Rik!

Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
500kHz!

Congratulations and good luck on MF,

John
Gm4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Graham, LF,

I have been watching your signal via Shetland & have noticed QSB has set in 
now it is dark. So Skip has changed quite noticably.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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> John,
>
> Have been testing since 1500 , and oddly the signals looked quite good at 
> that time of day on your plot , unlike last night, looks to  of faded out 
> ?
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
>> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi LF,
>>>
>>> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>>>
>>> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
>> in Shetland!
>>
>> Great to hear both sigs at the same time.
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> Clousta
>>
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lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>     So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but
>     these are digital, can the AGC be turned off?

  In a SDR receiver, the possibility to turn OFF the AGC is a software function, so, in case it is not implemented, just 
ask the author of the program...

>     and another problem if
>     my computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it 
>     also  do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?

  This is a common misconception... the sound card in a SDR receiver does NOT do any processing, nor FFT computations... 
they are all made by the central CPU, be it a Pentium or an Athlon.... the ONLY function of the sound card is to 
digitize the input signal (at least in the Tayloe mixer type of SDR) and to playback the demodulated audio.
So the only very important characteristic of a sound card is the quality of its ADC converter.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi Rik, LF,

Congratulations to Belgian amateurs on gaining access to the 500KHz band, 
same frequency allocation as UK but you have a QRO limit compared with our 
100mW ERP.

I will look out for your signals in near future.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear all,
>
> today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  use 
> the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  so 
> including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
> I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
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Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 10^10
and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
1250a....very nice.
Alan

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> Ok Alan,
>
> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
> ppl that is .. not the bbc
> ... but by how much , im not sure
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
> > Alan G3NYK
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Hi All,
> >
> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
> >
> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
> >
> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
> >
> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
> >
> > tnx - Graham .
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Strong, up to S7, RTTY signal to the West of me I believe, 138.965/139.040KH=
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Strong, up to S7,&nbsp;RTTY signal to the West of me I&nbsp;believe, 138.965=
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DCF39 still very deep qsb and weaker than "normal" - 10 db short peak before=
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Hello Oms!
Direct signal from HAARP is very strong here.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:12:33AM -0500, Jay Rusgrove wrote:
> Argo plot here:
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Nice!

FWIW, this is all I can see in JO61ua:

http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/haarp.png

It's only the direct signal, the moon is below the horizon here
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Jose,

   Great !  Thank you,!
Evidently some ionospheric bending as I suspected, there are two other repor=
ts from Europe as far as I know.

Please send your report to:
mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu

73 Warren K2ORS


 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jose Manuel=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experim=
ent


  Warren and all,

  Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=
=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler effect.

  Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse, b=
ut always visibles.


  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



  ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: K2ORS=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:01 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Exper=
iment


    perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively som=
e 'horizon gain'?

    73 Warren K2ORS


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Great !&nbsp; Thank you,!</FON=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Evidently some ionospheric bending as I sus=
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there are two other reports from Europe as far as I know.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please send your report to:</FONT></DIV>
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du">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Warren and all,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Detected here some weak echoes even after=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perhaps you will get some bending by th=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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Twice now this evening ,  copied G0MRF , fast cw ID from the sets speaker, 
now that's a first  !!!!

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Hi Uwe and LF!

DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
full report in the final of web-page:
http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html

73!
RW3ADB, Roman


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Hello Lowfers & LFers,

My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.

It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial line
which in turn varies the inductance.

Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Hallo Gus!
That is a very good info, congratulation!
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG
 
*******************************************
 
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Subject: LF: 500 kHz/BHZ
 
Hi all,
 
I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we 
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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es New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I want to inform you
about my new license on 500 kHz.<br>
<br>
Freq&nbsp; 501 kHz to 507 kHz.<br>
CW/Data mode.<br>
Power 20W EMRP<br>
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11<br>
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)<br>
<br>
This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we <br>
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.<br>
<br>
Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hello Jim,

Not the impressive "copy-after-12-seconds" as Hartmut often receives 
you, but fb :

2008-01-26 22:01:33 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-0.914 a:-0.2 dp: 43.7 ci: 9 cj:106 ???BER30*RPUGU3 ?
t:  24 f:-0.901 a:-0.6 dp: 41.0 ci:15 cj: 41 K2GUWYO1*9WDFUK ?
t:  48 f:-0.908 a:-0.3 dp: 42.9 ci: 0 cj: 40 PFU8ROYE1W/CEJV ?
t:  96 f: 0.234 pm:0.794 jm:726 q: -2.7 -4.1 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -


Cheers,
  Wolf(-gang) DL4YHF .

James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running  the beacon again tonight - WOLF 20 mode, 503.800kHz, from
> about 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi Uwe, not really a vote against it unless we know why ?? You will not be
heard in the States or Russia either .....I have operated in this area but
only with microwatts to reach Hartmut's grabber. Realy I was thinking the
only reason might be a DX station asking for that frequency??

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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> Hi Uwe,
>
> > I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
> > is there a vote against it?
> > Regards
> > Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>



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Where has Jack gone, not hrd him for a while.
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )

DJ8WX

Nil on american continent

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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Hello Dave and all,

yes, good activity tonight.
I worked GI3PDN, G3DXZ, M0KDW, G3XVL and GW4HXO.
4 countries in 2 days ... 96 to go ;-)
Heard: G3AQC, G3ZWH and G0MRF beacon in CW

It had been raining all morning, as I tuned the antenna current was =20
down to 1.3 A (1.4 A yesterday). Wet greenery is more lossy than dry =20
greenery ... I knew that already from 137 kHz.
As I has still 30 minutes daylight I added second earth stake, antenna =20
current went up to 1.55 A. So in dry weather I should have abt 1.7 A.
ERP should be close to 0.5 Watt.

At 22 UTC I disconnected the variometer and loosened the antenna =20
(supported by 2 trees), as WX-prediction gives wind up to 100km/h =20
tomorrow.
I guess I won't be QRV tomorrow. But WX should calm down by Friday and =20
stay so the weekend.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear Rik,
>
> Thanks for the QSO last night. Your signals are consistently stronger this
> evening, and you seem to have stirred up quite a lot of activity on 500! T=
he
> band sounds more like 80 metres at the moment!
>
> Stations heard in the last hour or so:- GI4PDN 569, G3DXZ 559, OR7T 569/QS=
B,
> GW4HXO 549/deep QSB, G3ZWH 579, M0KHW 589 (new one for me,) G0MRF beacon.
>
> Great stuff!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
> Sent: 30 January 2008 08:31
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: First night on 600m
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> a short overview of my first night on 600m:
> - 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
> - reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
> - heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)
>
> As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get
> QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
> TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The
> PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's
> are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods
> short. Output =3D 120 W.
> Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil
> at the top. Calculated Rrad =3D 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so
> theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees
> close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is
> far less, maybe 0.3 W.
> Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
> Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation
> when it is raining.
>
> I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get
> interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and
> meanwhile I will try to
> - build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
> - improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
> That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hello Laurie!

I think you will find all the info you will need on the Racal is available f=
or
download here:

http://www.premium-rx.org/racal_ra-1792.htm


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>:

> Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for
> the AOR 7030
> and it certainly  looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu  operating
> system.
> I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went
> wrong. I have
> looked for a replacement but they don't seem to be around any more. Andy,
> the problem
> is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could
> probably have a go at
> repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
> 73 Laurie G3AQC
>




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Hi Mal ,

Sorry , but at the moment i cannot be QRV on HF. No antennes are present .
Maybe later when the weather comes better .

73 de ON4AOL ,Luc

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Luc
  I am now on normal cw 502.5 if u hear me call on 3533 khz
  73 Mal/G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
    No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


    Luc , ON4AOL


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Hello
In France we where at least two listeners , with good copy !

73
Xtian / F1VL


Costas Krallis SV1XV a =E9crit :
> At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
>> See email i received from info@alexander.n.se
>>    =20
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> Any reception reports?
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> 73 Costas SV1XV
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX  , G3XDV , WD2XKO

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
















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Hi Gary,

You wrote:
> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>
Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
the bottom of the screen).
I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
rate, there was not a single error.

There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.

73,
  Wolf .



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I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.

Reports welcomed.

Mike, G3XDV.
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Decoding your WOLF signal now - frequency appears to be 502.7980kHz, which
is quite a long way off nominal for this mode. It could be down to either TX
frequency accuracy, or sound card sample rate, or both. Both need to be
calibrated accurately for this mode to work properly.

I will run the M0BMU beacon again tonight from approximately 2230utc, WOLF
10 mode, 503.800kHz. Any reports would be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON 502.800


> Ok wolf, looks like the set up is working ? might of been 'messing about'
> but its running now,  hopefully should be ok , tx should be stable ,
> soundcard is a isa awe64 , been on 3 hors , so , see what happens ..
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> >> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure
> >> with
> >> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> >> G ..
> >
> > I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
> > visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?
> >
> >
> > t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
> > t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> > t:  96 f:-2.399 a:-0.3 dp:109.6 ci:13 cj:165 *AF67Y???2T3BE0 ?
> > t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
> > t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?
> >
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > www.h-wolff.de
> > Locator: JO52hp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date:
1/18/2008
> > 19:32
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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Running WOLF Beacon 

502.8 khz 

10 bit rate 

(tx usb if that matters?)

Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)

Tnx

Graham 

G0NBD / io83lk





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Laurie,

lawrence mayhead wrote:
 > So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan,
 > but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off?

Yes, at least on Perseus. It has a dedicated "AGC OFF" button.

 > and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up
 > processing I/Q signals can it also do the FFT analysis ? at
 > the same time.

Perseus uses the computer's default soundcard only for audio
output (for listening). High speed USB 2.0 is used to transfer
the digital I/Q signal from Perseus to the PC, up to 500ksps =>
max 400kHz panoramic display. With an additional VAC program
(Virtual Audio Cable), the audio output can be routed
(digitally - without any loss of quality) to any software that
expects an input signal from a soundcard (Argo etc).

Perseus is the "cleanest" receiver I have ever seen/heard!
Only a few very weak spurs and an exceptionally clean LO (or
rather ADC clock). The LO "noise trumpet" is very narrow and
the noise, measured with a crystal oscillator, is about
-142dBc/Hz at 2kHz offset.

Unfortunately, the receiver has no input for external frequency
reference. This may be a problem for the QRSS120 guys? Anyway,
the radio appears to be very stable.

(I am not affiliated with the Peresus manufacturer in any way,
just a very satisfied owner).

Winrad supports Perseus, and it works very well. It can be used
instead of the supplied Perseus software, however, Winrad does
not have an "AGC OFF" button (yet) but since...

...Alberto di Bene wrote:
 > in case it is not implemented, just ask the author of the program...

this problem can be considered already solved.

Hi hi... :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Hi Wolf, LF,

I have downloaded the new version & tested sound card selection & it is OK 
on my system with my 2 cards.

Thanks for the useful ammendment.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Hello Graham,
>
> you wrote:
>> Ok Wolf,
>>
>> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection 
>> of the soundcard !
>>
>> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card 
>> , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb 
>> cable  !
>>
> Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You 
> will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the 
> tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the 
> 2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one 
> soundcard installed.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
>
>
> 




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Hello Gary, Graham, and the group,

Thanks for testing the new WOLF GUI with the soundcard selector - glad 
to hear it works since I couldn't test it myself.
At my home QTH I have an enormous unstable carrier just above 500 kHz, 
about 6 kHz wide with a hum-like sound. It wipes everything out except 
some DI beacons.

Marco - Indeed KK7KA's WOLF decodes signals which are *much* weaker than 
those you can see on a waterfall display. So the waterfall is not a good 
tuning aid for WOLF signals; but it helps to check if a receiver is 
connected at all.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Dear OMs,thank You for Your reply.
I have been qrv this morning, without success. I have called abt three times=
 cq.=20
1808z QSO DF6NM (dfcw3) me qrs3 both OO, for me aural cw was possilble (rst4=
49 at abotu 50 C/min) .

Please be qrv and respond.=20

55, Hans-Albrecht
JN48HQ, near Stuttgart
=20

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 13.01.08 20:09:41
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Re: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning


>=20
> hi Marco, LF
>=20
> DJ6GT(137.70) was in QSO with DK6NI(137.71)
>=20
> 73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Scholz, Marco " <marco.scholz@citi.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: LF: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning
>=20
>=20
> Hello,
> I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
> DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
> Freq. ~137.690KHz
> I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
> but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
> calling?
>=20
> Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
> Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
> to hear DK8ND.=20
>=20
> Thanks
> Vy73
>=20
> Marco
> DD7PC
> JN49ax
>=20
> Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip
>=20
> mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de
>=20
> =20
>=20
>=20
>=20


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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45 mi=
ns till sun up.
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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45 mi=
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Jim

What time do you normally shut down?

Jay


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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: M0BMU WOLF beacon


> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
> from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
> 2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> 



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Jim,

> Thanks for the comments. I will run the WOLF beacon again tonight, probably
>>from around 2200utc onwards. On W1TAG's suggestion, I intend to change the
> operating frequency to 503.8kHz.

this decode was made from a 48kHz wide soundfile recorded with my
homemade SDR around 00:05 UTC. Signal was clearly visible. Winrad
shows it about 28dB above the noise.

t:  24 f:-1.149 a:-0.9 dp:143.4 ci: 1 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t:  48 f:-1.147 a:-1.1 dp:140.7 ci: 2 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t:  96 f:-1.146 a:-1.2 dp:140.8 ci: 4 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 192 f:-1.143 pm:56578 jm:145 q:  8.1  8.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 288 f:-1.152 pm:252845 jm:146 q: 10.6 10.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 384 f:-1.152 pm:512531 jm:146 q: 12.2 12.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 480 f:-1.152 pm:589318 jm:147 q: 10.6 10.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 576 f:-1.152 pm:699639 jm:147 q: 11.0 11.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 672 f:-1.152 pm:700231 jm:147 q: 11.2 11.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 768 f:-1.152 pm:700900 jm:147 q:  9.5  9.5 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 864 f:-1.152 pm:701431 jm:147 q:  6.5  6.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 960 f:-1.152 pm:701653 jm:147 q:  4.4  3.8 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Wooaahhooooo finally !........
copy of VO1NA qrp
see capture

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj


















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qrt - 0140

Tnx for reports

G ..


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Subject: Re: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800 >>> 502.798 Khz <<<


> Ok Thanks for the frequency check,
>
> Its just as it came out of the box at the momen
>
> if its stable then a check on the sound card will sort the offset, the 
> exciter is ok as far as i can tell
>
> Rgds
>
> Graham .
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
>> Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
>> lost some lines.
>> Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37
>>
>> t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
>> t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
>> t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Yes, but the EME reflection was way down in the noise here.
The "direct" (well, ionosphere-reflected signal) was quite strong at times.

73,  Wolf

Luc van Achte schrieb:
> HI LF,
>  
> Do someone see something in Europe ??
>  
> ON4AOL, Luc



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Hi all,

I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we=20
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Yes its there if I scroll down, not as convenient ast ARGO.
G3KEV

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> How very odd ,
>
> Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at
the
> bottom of the screen,
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> May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you
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> the horizontal gain set too high ?
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> G ..
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> > Hi all
> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which
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> > the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but
> > also
> > a bit slow.
> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
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lawrence mayhead wrote:
 > None of the receivers I have looked at have an AGC OFF facility.

Perseus is a nice receiver. Except for the preselection filters and a little 
amplifier chip, just before the ADC, it is DSP all the way (direct sampling at 
80MS/s) and it has an AGC OFF button!

http://www.microtelecom.it/perseus/
http://www.locutus.it/sundry/perseus/
http://www.ssb.de/amateur/pdf/Perseus_SDR_1107.pdf (German)

73
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Hello Laurie,

I have used an ICOM R75 and still own a AOR AR7030.
Both are excellent performers at LF.

The AR7030 has top notch rf performance but the ergonomics of the AR7030 are=
 a bit unusual. The R75 is very easy to drive and has a 1 Hz frequency reado=
ut.
The perfect receiver should be an AR7030 with a R75 front panel.
The R75 is the receiver of choice for many NDB chasers.

The AR7030 is still available new. The R75 is not available in Europe, due t=
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s) dollar exchange rate.
A pity the main distributor won't ship into Europe.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have used an ICOM R75 and still own a AOR=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Both are excellent performers at LF.</FONT>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The AR7030 has top notch rf performance but=
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Hello Nick,
I have been using an IC-R75 with the optional xtal oven for some years and f=
ind it very useful at LF. I see one sold on Trademe this month for NZ$600.

Mike ZL4OL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Nick Mclean (SYD)=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:41 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: LF Receiver


  Hi all,
  Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
  It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off. Attenuator=
. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem good. Room for 2 o=
ptional filters.=20
  I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any comments=
.

  73's

  Nic McLean

  VK2KXN / VK5ZAT

  Tel:  02 99410619

  Fax: 02 98139009=20

  Mobile:  0417 822 728






  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers=20=
for LF/QRSS.
  and my problems with my 1792.
  Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, an=
d Warren for suggestions=20
  re alternative Rx's.
  The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
  So I have been looking around!
  I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050=
, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to=
 take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
  The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
  The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very=20=
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.=
 I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I g=
uess its coming to the end of its production.
  So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are=
 digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer soun=
d card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using an IC-R75 with the option=
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  <A title=3DNick.Mclean@foxtel.com.au     href=3D"mailto:Nick.Mclean@foxtel=
.com.au">Nick Mclean (SYD)</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4=
:41=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: LF Receiver</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do many people on the list use an Icom=
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  IC-R75?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It's specs read ok to my way of lookin=
g, AGC fast, slow=20
  or off. Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range see=
m=20
  good. Room for 2 optional filters. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I don't see a spec for frequency stabi=
lity - does anyone=20
  have any comments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of=
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  receivers for LF/QRSS.<BR>and my problems with my 1792.<BR>Paul Hendrik fo=
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  the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for=20
  suggestions <BR>re alternative Rx's.<BR>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receive=
rs=20
  is a worrying trend as Andy says.<BR>So I have been looking around!<BR>I h=
ave=20
  flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050,=20=
both=20
  have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take=
 on=20
  another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <BR>The Ten Tec RX3=
40=20
  also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <BR>The AOR 7030 is non D=
SP=20
  and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tu=
ne=20
  in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about set=
ting=20
  it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end o=
f=20
  its production.<BR>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks=20
  Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another probl=
em=20
  if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals ca=
n=20
  it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy c=
an=20
  help?<BR>So I am still looking<BR>73 Laurie.<BR>
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I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good signal, I
gave him 477.

73
M0KHW    IO91TV

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang B=FCscher
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.. on 503.1 kHz, in QSO with a G-stn which is not audible here at the=20
moment.

73,
  Wolf  (lurking...)


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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> just worked my first QSO's on 600m:

Congratulations Rik!

Nice copy in SM too. I heard your CQ a few minutes ago.

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Hello  LFers ,

Good propagation , last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ
WD2XKO

DJ8WX

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber at :
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:37:29 +0100
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

>=20
> I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
> available soon.
>=20
>


Thanks for your kind words Lubos!

I have put up a short, untuned, vertical of approx 5m height and am
feeding this to the RX that runs the grabber. The signals are not as
strong as usual, but I see DI2AM (and some local QRM) on the waterfall
at 1400UTC.

I have restored the grabber to normal, 5 minute updates, but please
ensure you use the following URL:-

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm

I hope to restore the antenna to its full height, and to resonate/match
it, when I can get a replacement section of the telescopic fibreglass
pole. Until then I might have to lower the antenna in bad weather, as
it's only guyed at one level and might be a bit unstable in high winds.

Regards,

John
GM4SLV



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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( Good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Thanks, John.

I've only just got my 500 kHz kit back together, and I was sending with no
side tone - makes my CW a bit ropey!

It's been an interesting evening, and congratulations to Rik on getting
going on 500 before all our NOVs expire! Just shows what can be done with a
bit more power.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 503kHz


On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:30:08 -0000
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> Hi, Rik, John,
>
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange
> callsign threw me at first!
>
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/
> & ON/G QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
>
>

Thanks Dave,Rik & LF

I just came back into the shack and heard the end of your own QSO with
Rik too.

It's great to stir up some new activity. Rik's announcement of
impending operation got me out into the darkness with a torch to
re-tune the ATU. If you've seen the picture of my QTH in this month's
RadCom you can appreciate just how dark it can be here at night!

Cheers,

John





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Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a qui=
et period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz...ss=
b is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundwaves=
 thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox duri=
ng equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found on lo=
nger distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or dusk.=
..strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7 you=20=
can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband no ca=
rrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird but t=
hat what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
  Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mod=
e/times etc
  =20
  WIth thanks
  =20
  Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia




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    st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zea=
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lawrence mayhead wrote:

--- snip ---
> Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is 
> neccessesary to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or 
> does it do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?

  Lawrence,

    I have many receivers, RA-1792, ICR-75 and Perseus included, among others.
Should I be forced to depart from all except one, the one that will stay is the Perseus.
Granted, it needs some mentality shifting as far as the operating procedures are concerned. You don't have anymore a 
solid  and reassuring heavy tuning wheel in your hand, to slowly turn in search of that elusive whispering, you will do 
the search visually on the waterfall, but which other receiver offers you a continuously variable IF bandwidth ranging 
from let's say 25 Hz to 12 kHz ? A complete view of what is happening in a range of 400 kHz ? A point-and-click tuning 
on the signal that has just appeared inside those 400 kHz ? To not speak of a BDR of 125 dB. Look here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/bdr.gif

Further info here :
http://www.microtelecom.it/perseus/index.htm
http://www.radioamatore.it/woodbox/Perseus_uk.html

Though Nico IN3NWV (the designer and producer of Perseus) is one of my good friends, I have no commercial interests in 
this product, so my words are those of a satisfied customer.

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Hello All.
After a stumbling start I should be back on 500kHz early next week after a
rebuild of my driver board to use with the PA that Chris G3XIZ kindly built
for me. If all goes well I should be putting about 600mA into my doublet
connected as a "T".

73s  Ken M0KHW   IO91TV  

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Subject: LF: MF/LF

It looks like MF and LF acty has just about fizzled out. The reflector has
gone the same way, no discussion or observations. LF declined a long time
ago bar a couple of dedicated stations that keep plugging away. MF has not
even been going a year yet in the UK and only about four stations are really
active.
The effort on these low bands certainly does not justify the work involved,
special antennas and transmitters.
On the other hand 160m is going strong both local and dxing plus all the
other hf bands.
With so few stations mode diversifications does not help, all using
different modes and very little real communications taking place. The only
consistant activity is those stations using CW. This applies mostly to 500
khz, and this band is not attracting big numbers because the TX has to be
home built, antennas take up a good amount of space, that most amateurs do
not have and good CW operating is an advantage, all of which most cannot
fulfill.
Except there is some miracle around the corner the whole thing will just
fizzle out.
de Mal/G3KEV





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I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
receiver.
This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the
receivers
I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these
receivers
is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass
band
will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could
quite
disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter
so that
signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
de-sensitisation, and this
could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
Or do I look for another R1792

73 Laurie G3AQC

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I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement receiver.<br>This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
<br>for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the receivers <br>I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp; facility.This means that if one of these receivers <br>is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass band
<br>will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could quite<br>disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter so that <br>signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisation, and this
<br>could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?<br>Or do I look for another R1792&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Hi LF,

Testing ASCII 7 on 503.000 KHz +/- in between Grahams Packet test.

Basically just to see if I could.

Any reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
> 
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
> 
>


Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
in Shetland!

Great to hear both sigs at the same time.

John
GM4SLV
Clousta







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Hello LF,

Following Laurie's comments re: AGC action on my grabber display I've 
turned the RX AGC OFF.

The band is quiet at the moment (1030z) with only DI2AM and G0MRF 
visible.

I've set the RF gain to 73% and the waterfall looks "normal". I'll try 
to keep an eye on it as night time conditions arrive and signals 
increase in amplitude. Hopefully the "AGC OFF" settings will allow 
better monitoring of weak signals when the DI/OK beacons are strong 
enough to drive the AGC, were it left on. Fine tweaking of the RF gain 
setting might be necessary later to optimise the dynamic range.

Cheers,

John



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Zitat von K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net>:

> Jean-Pierre,
>
>   Thank you for the report and the 'grabber'!
> Poor conditions, noisy band, so I make short transmissions to save 
> electricity and 'save the planet'!
>
> Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

Hi Jean-Pierre,
too: thanks for the reports and thanks for the grabber.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Tnx Hartmut ,
73 J-P f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
>  =20
>> Hello Hall ,
>> What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7
>>    =20
> 20:30 >> 21:00
>  =20
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>    =20
>
> Andrej, EW6GB
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>
>
>
>  =20

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:16:44 -0000
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using
> WOLF 20 mode, "by popular request".


Hi Jim, LF,

Just managed to get my first ever decode of WOLF, although I haven't
tried too hard before...

2008-01-22 07:26:00 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 800 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-1.248 a: 0.2 dp: 89.5 ci: 3 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  24 f:-1.245 a: 0.1 dp: 89.8 ci: 2 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  48 f:-1.246 a: 0.2 dp: 88.6 ci: 1 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  96 f:-1.250 pm:220.0 jm:271 q:  6.7  2.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 144 f:-1.250 pm:301.6 jm:271 q:  5.9  4.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -


Thanks,

John
GM4SLV


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What has this to do with lf?? 

Paul Reeves   G8GJA

-----Original Message-----
From: gboorerzl3pn [mailto:gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz]
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thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should be able

to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of the hams lucky 
enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away back in 50s on 
14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in group a all silent 
keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
----- Original Message ----- 
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> At 09:16 p.m. 18/01/2008, you wrote:>Yes,>>IS2 C band - TVNZ service and 
> full uniterupted coverage on TV1.>>There ya have it.There is also suppose 
> to be a special satellite feed for Nepal TV. Asiasat2 would be my 
> pickAssisting Wide Intrntl Coverage of HIllary FuneralFriday, 18 January 
> 2008, 11:08 amPress Release: Television New ZealandTVNZ Assists Wide 
> International Media Coverage of Hillary FuneralAs host broadcaster of the 
> State Funeral of Sir Edmund Hillary, TVNZ wants to maximise the 
> accessibility of the broadcast to all New Zealanders, and to the rest of 
> the world.In addition to TVNZ's own live broadcast on TV ONE, live 
> streaming on tvnz.co.nz and replay on TVNZ ondemand, TVNZ has offered the 
> broadcast free of charge to domestic and international radio and 
> television broadcasters and agencies.So far the following news 
> organisations have requested access to the TVNZ feed:ABC Australia, Al 
> Jazeera, APTN, BBC, Channel 9 Australia, Channel 10 Australia, CNN, EBU 
> (European Broadcasting Union), Reuters Australia, SBS Australia, Sky News 
> Australia, Prime/Sky, Radio Works, TV Works, and Newstalk ZB.TVNZ has also

> organised a special satellite link for Nepal TV to allow the live 
> broadcast to be screened there.In Antarctica, the live broadcast will be 
> fed to Scott Base via TVNZ's Pacific Service, which will also carry the 
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>>
>>
>>
>> Here is their message....
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>> can see it...lets change the queens chain around all our lakes rivers and

>> sea coast to the hillary chain..then us true old kiwis will always 
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Hi Laurence,

this one is listed as TBA Ankara, Turkey on http://www.longwave.de/below150.=
pdf , and has been active from time to time in the past. The frequency is ab=
ove my normal grabber setting. I can currently hear it as a low frequency wa=
rble on a portable AM radio tuned to the DCF39 carrier.

Best 73
Markus

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:58 AM
  Subject: LF: rtty


  Strong, up to S7, RTTY signal to the West of me I believe, 138.965/139.040=
KHz  Still coming in at 1 hour after my sunrise @ 23Z
  DCF39 still very deep qsb and weaker than "normal" - 10 db short peak befo=
re sunrise but max sig overnight was about S7 on a normal noizy bank
  =20
  Laurence 9V1 LF


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>this one is listed as TBA Ankara, Turkey on <A   hre=
f=3D"http://www.longwave.de/below150.pdf">http://www.longwave.de/below150.pd=
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and has been active from time to time in the past. The frequency&nbsp;is abo=
ve=20
my normal grabber setting.&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;currently hear it as a low=20
frequency warble on a portable&nbsp;AM radio tuned to the DCF39=20
carrier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Strong, up to S7,&nbsp;RTTY signal to the West of me=20
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Mike,

right now were are more than happy with what we got, so we don't want 
to push our luck ...
Maybe later.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 09:18 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>You guys should try to get 501-510kc and hopefully US can get down 
>to 501kc rather than our 505kc we have now.
>
>Mike
>WE0H
>WD2XSH/16
>
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>>BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
>>(upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).
>>
>>73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>>At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>>>On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>>> >
>>>But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I 
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>>>
>>>73
>>>John F5VLF/G3PAI
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Slightly OT,
   received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif engineer 
for the HAARP project:
73 Warren K2ORS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)"

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment


>
> Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
>
> The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
> and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted
> a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
> A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
> echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
>
> HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
> for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
> wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
> listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
> following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
> times are in Universal Time (UTC):
>
> HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
>
> Date
>>From      To
> Transmitted Frequency
>
> (UTC)
> UTC
> Hr:Min)
> (MHz)
>
> 19 January 2008
> 05:00
> 06:00          6.7925
>
> 06:00
> 07:00          7.4075
>
> 20 January 2008
> 06:30
> 07:30          6.7925
>
> 07:30
> 08:30          7.4075
>
>
> Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
> to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
> and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
> meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
> antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
> transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
> figure.
>
> (not avaialable)
>
> The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
> five
> second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
> lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
> repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
> During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
> but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
> Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
> carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
> mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
> operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.
> However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
> it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
>
> Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
> to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
> the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
> seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
> 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
> The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period
> after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
> 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
> a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
> neither.
>
> We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
> who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
> transmitted
> skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
> your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
> and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
>
> mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
>
> http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
>
> [end]
>
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Subject: Re: LF:  XDV beacon 136.318.8 khz
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Hello Mike,
capture last night 01.36z.
qth-loc: KO85sv
73!

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Hi all,


For those of you that like to tune the NDB bands from time to time I'd
like to announce that the 2008 edition of the ENDBH & NANDBH handbooks
and CDs is now available.

An info package can be downloaded at

http://www.4shared.com/file/36265996/7e8331c6/2008_ndb_info_package.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/27j5ku

The new ENDBH 2008 contains the data of more than 6200 NDBs on 150+
spiral-bound pages in A4 format. Also the NANDBH 2008 has grown and
shows the data of more than 5700 NDBs on 130+ pages.

As introduced with last year's edition the CD versions contain Google
Earth compatible NDB waypoint files so that you can "visit" NDB
locations around the globe. The multimedia contents of the CD version
have been expanded to a total of more than 160 NDB pictures and over
170 NDB sound clips from around the world.

Prices in Euro remained stable once again, but US-$ prices had to be
adjusted due to the Euro/US-$ exchange rate. Please find more details
in the info package.

I'd like to take this opportunity to say many thanks to NDB DXers who
have sent me comments and updates, pointed out errors, or provided NDB
pictures and sound clips etc. Your support is very much appreciated
and an invaluable help and encouragement for me!


-- 
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook"
cf. http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/NDBpublications2008.pdf
and http://www.4shared.com/file/36265996/7e8331c6/2008_ndb_info_package.html



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Dear Jean-Pierre, John, Hartmut, LF Group,

Thanks for looking out for the beacon signal last night. I will run rhe
beacon again tonight from about 2200 (503.8kHz, WOLF 10) - at least on
500kHz you don't have to worry so much about the antenna catching fire or
the electriciy bill, unlike 136k  :-)

Jean-Pierre - I have been monitoring the off-air signal on a separate  RX
and PC, partly to see how good the frequency stability of the new rig is,
but it also confirms that the WOLF configuration is OK and it is possible to
decode the signal. I could not see anything unusual in last nights decodes;
also, Hartmut was able to decode the signal successfully. One possibility
that occurs to me is that there may be a different frequency calibration
offset on your RX between the 136kHz and 500kHz bands - this might cause
enough error on 500kHz to prevent the decoder tracking the signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Got a Usefull plot , i just used the low bandwith option , the fast  one is=20=
scrolling in segments , 30 seconds is fine for update speed ?

Tnx - Graham ..G0NBD

nb- when you sorted, add to  the uk500khz  'grabber' page ,=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:00 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Grabber


  Gents, Initial experiments with restricted bandwidth showed this effect, a=
nd when I changed the refresh  rate to 5 sec on the java version, it improve=
d. so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh to 10 seconds, and see what ha=
ppens. (users already connected may have to refresh the page)
  The non java version may perform better for those with slower connection s=
peeds (there is a link to it under the picture on the main page.)
  I am logging the requests and errors generated, none has actually stopped=20=
the system this end
  Thanks to all, for looking in, and especially to Wolfgang for the excellen=
t tool that is spectrum laboratory.=20
  regards
  Mark GM4ISM
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Luc van Achte=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:45 PM
    Subject: LF: Grabber


    Hi ,

    The same problem as told by Garry G4WGT . A few lines and then the page=20=
restarts=20
    First mail from me . Just made the mini whip from PA0RDT and try to catc=
h something on 500 kHz

    HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc  J021AF



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Got a Usefull plot , i just used the low ba=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - Graham ..G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nb- when you sorted, add to&nbsp; the=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, Initial experiments with restricte=
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  bandwidth showed this effect, and when I changed the refresh&nbsp; rate to=
 5=20
  sec on the java version, it improved. so I have just (17:58) changed the=20
  refresh to 10 seconds, and see what happens. (users already connected may=20=
have=20
  to refresh the page)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The non java version may perform better f=
or those=20
  with slower connection speeds (there is a link to it under the picture on=20=
the=20
  main page.)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am logging the requests and errors gene=
rated,=20
  none has actually stopped the system this end</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all, for looking in, and especi=
ally to=20
  Wolfgang </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the excellent tool that is=
=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEF=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora=
.be">Luc=20
    van Achte</A> </DIV>
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p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5=
:45=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi ,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The same problem as told by Garry&nbsp;=
G4WGT .=20
    A few lines and then&nbsp;the page&nbsp;restarts </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First mail from me . Just made the mini=
 whip=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc&nbsp; J021AF</FONT></=
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    Date: 01/01/2008 12:09<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hi David, LF,

Your beacon audible & CW ID 100% readable at times.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20=
a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
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Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20=
a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
 drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.=
<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im going to put&nbsp;"down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded=
 area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but=
 supported by the trees.&nbsp;Ive just gained another painful acre so will h=
ave wires up to 100m in length or so -&nbsp;I have silt sand and ground wate=
r at around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment=
)&nbsp;lake. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
So - question&nbsp;what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in=20=
this type of medium (?)&nbsp;Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does=20=
anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nb=
sp; On the TX side I see this without a lot of&nbsp; clearing as another lar=
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Thanks Warren for this URL.

Really great!

73, Dick, PA0SE


At 04:42 8-1-2008, you wrote:
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
>
>
>73 Warren K2ORS



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Jim

Had some pretty good looking 'lock ons' early in the evening but no decode. 

Jay


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> Jim,
> 
> Sorry, nothing copied here.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG
> 


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Peter,

 

I asked this and John Gould said this:

 

Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

 

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue

of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may

recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  

 

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

 

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application.  

 

73 John, G3WKL

RSGB HF Manager

 

g3wkl@btinternet.com

 

 

73

Dom

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter March
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Subject: LF: Feb 1st approaches ...600m ... SP?

 


Hi All

 

Does any one know the fate of UK 600m ? 

 

Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer Watts  ;-)

 

73 Petefmt

  

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
</font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I asked this and John Go=
uld said this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dom, t=
hanks for raising the
issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to know where we all stand.<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RSGB,=20=
at its quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>of NoV=
 extension, as well as
requesting an increase of ERP.&nbsp;&nbsp; As you may<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>recall=
 several of the
correspondents on this reflector provided me with some useful material for o=
ur
case.&nbsp; Ofcom commented then that they would need to gain a view from th=
e
primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outc=
ome
of WRC-07 was known.&nbsp; I view that as sensible, since apart from the sma=
ll
matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, th=
ere
was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area=20=
of
interest.&nbsp; We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and=20=
we were
told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during=20=
the
first half of February.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>There=20=
is nothing that
individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As far=
 as your own NoV is
concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the
application.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>73 Joh=
n, G3WKL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RSGB H=
F Manager<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>g3wkl@=
btinternet.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dom<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US styl=
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owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonNa=
me>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:=
PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peter March<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 30 January 2008 16:43<b=
r>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Feb 1st approach=
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...600m ... SP?</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size: 12.0pt'>Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer <st1:pl=
ace w:st=3D"on">Watts</st1:place>&nbsp;
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Ok Alan,

Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the 
ppl that is .. not the bbc
... but by how much , im not sure

G ..


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Subject: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ


> Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>
> Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>
> Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>
> intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>
> tnx - Graham .
>
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James Moritz wrote:

>Dear LF Group,
>
>The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using WOLF 20
>mode, "by popular request". Frequency is 503.800 as before - any reports
>welcome, or comparison with the previous WOLF 10 sigs. The idea is that the
>faster mode may be beneficial for short-duration peaks in signal strength
>occuring on 500kHz.
>
>  
>
>  
>
Hi Jim. LF
just few minutes ago i got it on my screen :)

2008-01-21 23:05:13 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 600 -t 2 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f: 0.435 a:-1.4 dp: 84.3 ci:10 cj:382 *G2X04COZNR7KXY ?
t:  24 f: 0.443 a: 1.4 dp: 82.1 ci: 2 cj: 83 9NKOL67D6BYS5I0 ?
t:  48 f: 1.678 a:-1.1 dp: 78.7 ci: 5 cj:148 Y9D9LZDP2DOTCDA -
t:  96 f: 0.000 pm:46.42 jm:363 q:-11.7 -9.1 9DDOLPBB7P.B.J1 ?
t: 144 f: 1.504 pm:50.12 jm:940 q:-11.9 -8.3 W1KC3C???OABLOP ?
t: 192 f: 0.742 pm:54.15 jm:191 q:-10.3 -7.3 RXV7M/9 DA030F7 ?
t: 240 f: 1.875 pm:60.90 jm:852 q: -9.1 -7.1 31PFO99Y373B/UW ?
t: 288 f: 0.020 pm:76.49 jm:300 q: -6.0 -8.3 MH13.3EU4G37CNM ?
t: 336 f: 0.020 pm:110.1 jm:300 q: -4.3 -5.3 M0BMUAEU4G37CN  -
t: 384 f: 0.020 pm:137.2 jm:300 q: -3.4 -5.2 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 432 f: 0.020 pm:152.1 jm:300 q: -3.4 -4.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 480 f: 0.020 pm:161.8 jm:300 q: -2.9 -4.1 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 528 f: 0.020 pm:175.9 jm:300 q: -2.8 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:199.1 jm:300 q: -2.1 -3.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 624 f: 0.020 pm:207.8 jm:300 q: -2.0 -2.7 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:219.9 jm:300 q: -1.8 -2.8 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 720 f: 0.020 pm:223.8 jm:300 q: -1.8 -3.0 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:225.4 jm:300 q: -1.8 -3.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 816 f: 0.020 pm:226.2 jm:300 q: -1.7 -3.4 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 864 f: 0.020 pm:226.7 jm:300 q: -1.7 -3.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 912 f: 0.020 pm:228.4 jm:300 q: -1.6 -3.6 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 960 f: 0.020 pm:238.9 jm:300 q: -1.4 -3.7 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1008 f: 0.020 pm:243.2 jm:300 q: -1.1 -3.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1056 f: 0.020 pm:244.1 jm:300 q: -1.0 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1104 f: 0.020 pm:257.7 jm:300 q: -1.0 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -

  recently i posted an e-mail to LF group with my first ever reception 
of ham stastion on 137 khz. while i sent few posts
  reporting my 600 m screens this one is the FIRST ever one from  
England it just happend to be you, Jim  :):)

                                                   cheers, peter, 
sq7mpj  /jo91rs/                     


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Hello Graham,

you wrote:
> Ok Wolf,
>
> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the 
> selection of the soundcard !
>
> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound 
> card , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long 
> usb cable  !
>
Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip

I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You 
will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the 
tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the 
2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one 
soundcard installed.

Cheers,
  Wolf  DL4YHF .



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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:04:42 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure
> with this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> 
> G ..


Just as I got the software setup to decode you...!

Oh well, better luck next time,

John

GM4SLV


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Dear all,

a short overview of my first night on 600m:
- 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
- reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
- heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)

As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get 
QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The 
PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's 
are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods 
short. Output = 120 W.
Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil 
at the top. Calculated Rrad = 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so 
theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees 
close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is 
far less, maybe 0.3 W.
Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation 
when it is raining.

I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get 
interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and 
meanwhile I will try to
- build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
- improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).

73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)


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> Hi Rik isn't it more likely to be the case that these low antennas are muc=
h
more dependent on ground conditions, which are not modelled very well=20


Highly likely! This is one of the things that has become painfully obvious t=
o those of us interested in cave radio.

To add to the problems, there will be rock at some depth under the ground. T=
his depth can vary enormously: soil over limestone is probably a metre or le=
ss deep (very much a guess); in parts of southern England, on London Clay, h=
ard rock can be tens or even a hundred metres down. Nor is there any reason=20=
to suppose that the soil/rock boundary is either level or smooth.=20

The conductivities of soil and rock presumably matter, and may vary from pla=
ce to place. They will certainly vary with the recent rainfall.

So you may be dealing with a two-layer problem with a top layer of unknown a=
nd possibly varying thickness, and two layers of unknown and varying conduct=
ivity. Apart from that, modelling it is child's play!

73,
Chris Trayner, G4OKW


-----------------------------
Dr Chris Trayner
School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering,
The University of Leeds,
Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 113 34 32053
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Caught a fairly ghostly "AQ" in the local noise here tonight around 0H, 
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Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
 
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Andy,

  Thanks for your comments, you are always insightful.   For the record, I made no comments about a "setup filter" I was merely forwarding an article by Dallas Lankford.  That said, full A/D overload of -23dBm and a dynamic range of 80dB may be adequate for low signal environments (I'm told that big MW stations are rare in the U.K.) but would fare poorly at this QTH which has FIVE 50kW MW stations with 15kM!

   Back to the AGC issues, Rob Sherwood of Sherwood Engineering has published a slide presentation on how poorly ALL DSP receivers perform under QRN conditions due to the DSP handling of AGC:
http://www.sherweng.com/documents/Dayton2007w.pdf

  The new software defined radios offer unique spectrum displays and record possibilities but the basic radio functions are not up to the specs of a high-end analog receiver yet though I'm sure that day is coming.



--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> Warren's  comments about "setup filter" are not correct    What he is
> actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes
> place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip. (In fact, he actually
> alludes to this right at the end).  It is possible to achieve overload in
> the decimation process even though the arw A/D data is still within its
> linear range.   However, this 'second stage' overload is not real, and is
> caused by an overflow in the maths.  It can be prevented by adjustment of
> the AD6620 gain without any resulting reduction in sensitivity.
> 
> I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in
> place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent
> with his measured figure.
> The dynamic range of approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level
> and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the
> SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input which are switched in
> automatically depending on the frequency selected.   He makes several
> observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be
> valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements
> and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
> 
> I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a
> greater selection of front end filtering available.  This is clearly better,
> but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs twice as much as an SDR-IQ,
> you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth,
> 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
> 
> I've used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the
> RA1792 that was once used regularly on LF.  There was never any sign of
> overloading on the 'IQ, using both an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip
> or the tuned 137kHz Tee.  Even with the input gain set at +10dB.   For
> a medium cost SDR, its difficult to beat
> 
>  However, for* purely LF* use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn't
> already got an SDR-IQ, I'd probably look at a customised Softrock type.
> With a decent high order Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off
> medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or
> 11th order LPF isn't difficult at this frequency) followed by a decent
> bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.  Depending on where
> you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you'll
> get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.   The high Q antenns
> used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low
> frequency signals.   In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably
> rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do
> admirably.
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the
> > strong signal performance to be wanting:
> >
> > http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
> >
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
> > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers
> >
> >
> > Hi Laurence
> > Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,
> >  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much
> > cheaper).
> >
> > You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also
> > down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability
> > to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had
> > the SDR RF section feeding your computer.
> >
> > This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try
> > out.
> >
> > Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if
> > you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that
> > does just that... at a cost though!!
> >
> > One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic
> > display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW
> > ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it
> > other decoder features are to follow.
> >
> > So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached
> > and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable
> > connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
> >
> > The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ
> > connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth
> > fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
> >
> > One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for
> > later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the
> > original recording.
> >
> > The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay
> > you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all
> > the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF
> > section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
> >
> > Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group
> > 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1B
> GdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwM
> TEwNTIwNA-->for
> > up to date information.
> >
> > I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments
> > are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
> >
> > I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every
> > sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
> >
> > Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the
> > free software.
> >
> > 73 petefmt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
> > But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
> > At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
> > a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec.
> > looks
> > good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> > I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
> > neccessesary
> > to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or
> > does it
> > do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
> > Any help gratefully received.
> > 73 Laurie
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > Sent from 
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> m/evt=51949/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html>- a smarter inbox.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt



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<div>Warren&#39;s &nbsp;comments about &quot;setup filter&quot; are not correct&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What he is actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip.&nbsp;(In fact, he actually alludes to this&nbsp;right at the end).&nbsp;&nbsp;It is possible to achieve overload in the decimation process even though the&nbsp;arw A/D data&nbsp;is still within its linear range.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, this &#39;second stage&#39; overload is not real, and&nbsp;is caused by&nbsp;an overflow in the maths.&nbsp;&nbsp;It can be prevented by adjustment of the AD6620 gain without any resulting&nbsp;reduction in sensitivity.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent with his measured figure.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>The dynamic range of&nbsp;approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input&nbsp;which are switched in automatically depending on the frequency selected.&nbsp;&nbsp; He makes several observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a greater&nbsp;selection of front end filtering available.&nbsp; This is clearly better, but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs&nbsp;twice as much as an SDR-IQ, you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth, 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;ve used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the RA1792&nbsp;that was once used&nbsp;regularly on LF.&nbsp; There was never any sign of overloading on the &#39;IQ, using both&nbsp;an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip or the tuned 137kHz Tee.&nbsp; Even with the input gain set at +10dB.&nbsp;&nbsp; For a&nbsp;medium cost&nbsp;SDR, its difficult to beat
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>However, for<strong> <u>purely LF</u></strong> use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn&#39;t already got an SDR-IQ, I&#39;d probably look at a customised&nbsp;Softrock type.&nbsp; With a decent high order&nbsp;Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or 11th order LPF isn&#39;t difficult at this frequency)&nbsp;followed by a decent bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.&nbsp; Depending on where you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you&#39;ll get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.&nbsp;&nbsp; The high Q antenns used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low frequency signals.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do admirably.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 24/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the strong signal performance to be wanting:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
</a></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">Peter March</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Hi Laurence</div>
<div>Whilst&nbsp;I don&#39;t have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso&#39;s in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK&#39;s web site for an explanation.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Follow the <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
<font color="#003399">Softrock-40 Interest Group </font></a>for up to date information.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto&#39;s comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Try <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flex-radio.com/" target="_blank">http://www.flex-radio.com/</a>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>73 petefmt&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><br><b><i>lawrence mayhead &lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com" target="_blank">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
<br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br></blockquote><br>
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Hello Uwe,
capture 21.10z.
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Test  stopped 2400

Thanks for the reports,

G ..





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Subject: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ


> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>
> MMTTY , NON REV ,
> MARK TONE  1275 HZ
> 85 HZ SHIFT ,
> 45.45 BAUD
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> TX  SET .... 501.000  USB
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Hi Mark,

Just tried the grabber a few times & each time only get a small (top) part 
of the grab, then it jumps back to top again to start scan again.

I see about 1 to 2 inches of top part of the grab at about 5 to 10 second 
periods.

Hope this report helps your problems.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Subject: LF: Fw: Experimental 500KHz grabber




Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
website www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a 
ferrite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots 
of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR


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Hello Graham,

you wrote:
> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure 
> with this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???


Beware: The WOLF decoder requires a "stable" transmitter, and a 
precisely calibrated soundcard sampling rate. Stewart KK7KA (who 
invented it) wrote some information about this important aspect, and how 
many dB's can get lost due to errors in the sampling rate and/or 
frequency drift. Of course, this not only applies to the receive, but 
also to the transmit side.

See  http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf.html :

 >> WOLF requires very stable and accurate transmitters and receivers. 
Drift of only 3 millihertz per minute is a 3 dB loss; 10 mHz/min. will 
probably make communication impossible.
<<


Cheers,
   Wolf  .




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Hi Uwe, LF,

WX tonight from 2010 to 2040utc.

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Hello LF!

G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC
G3KEV 579 replying to him on 502.6kHz
G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier

73's

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Mark,

Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the screen, whi=
ch is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  click on the 'slow'=20=
link ..

Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
  Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


  Gents,=20
  Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta=
 version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users get=
ting partial images.=20
  After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, ra=
ther as expected.
  Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
  The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height a=
nd not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were v=
isible last night.
  I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the s=
hed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems sligh=
tly better than the reduced height main antenna.

  I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but=
 I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment o=
r longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbe=
rs to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground=
 for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagatio=
n indication.

  any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk
  follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just had a look, but only seeing a small st=
rip at=20
the top of the screen, which is flickering ,&nbsp; only way to&nbsp; view fu=
ll=20
page, is to&nbsp; click on the 'slow' link ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5=
px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarkhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:markhughes1@blu=
eyonder.co.uk">Mark</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:=
43=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber<=
/DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at=
 my QTH=20
  is now running a new&nbsp;beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop t=
he=20
  problem of multiple users getting partial images. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After an initial rush of activity, the nu=
mber of=20
  users has calmed down, rather as expected.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to jump on board and try to bre=
ak it=20
  again!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The system is connected to my main antenn=
a but=20
  this is at minimum height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty=
=20
  well and many signals were visible last night.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also got the magnetic antenna work=
ing,=20
  (placed temporarily on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the=20
  weather permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main=20
  antenna.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont have the fantastically low noise f=
loor=20
  that John GM4SLV offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the=20
  duration of the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is=20=
far=20
  enough away from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for the experime=
nt.=20
  It is also a testing ground for possible similar systems at SHF giving=20
  'inverse' beacons for propagation indication.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any comments or problems encounterd, plea=
se let=20
  me know!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk"=
>www.dc2light.co.uk</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of=
 the=20
  page is the grabber link.</FONT></DIV>
  <P>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
















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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hello Johan!
> Many thanks for information about signal of  beacon OK0EMW in SM. This
> picture is nice and clear. Which program do you use?

Hello Lubos,

it is the built-in waterfall display of the Perseus receiver.

73
Johan SM6LKM

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Hi Graham,


> I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see 
> a way of selecting a soundcard ?
> may be ive missed a setup box ?
>
Simply, there isn't one. But if you have more than one soundcard in/near 
your PC, you can declare one of them to be the "default" soundcard (from 
windows point of view). The WOLF GUI will use it then, because -up to 
now- it always uses the "default" soundcard.

It must be somewhere in the windows system control panel.
If not, I can add a selection box in the program, but I fear it will be 
too late for the recent transmission.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Thanks David, Mike ZL4OL and Brian CT1DRP for the info and help with the 
Z3816a!
73 Warren K2ORS



----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: Z3816A


> Hi Warren
> some info here that may help in finding suitable manual etc
>
> http://www.realhamradio.com/GPS_Z3816A_Receiver.htm
>
> 73
> dave
> G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
> webpage
> www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org
>
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
>> HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon 
>> has nothing!
>>  73 Warren K2ORS
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> 



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Rtty test, cont ,

Running  dual modes , RTTY & AMTOR-FEC, recycle times  60 seconds , not able 
to  prevent modes overlapping, so separated by 300 Hz , peak signal hight 
minus 3db per frequency set  when  tones in simultanious tx ,

Setup

Tx mode , USB , Dial freq, 502.000 khz

MMTTY   503.000 Khz - mark

45.45 Bauds,
85 Hz shift - Normal
Mark  freq    1000 Hz

Multpsk    503.300 Khz  mark

AMTOR-FEC
85 Hz shift - Normal
Mark tone   1300 Hz

Tnx

Graham ..






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> Test  stopped 2400
>
> Thanks for the reports,
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:38 PM
> Subject: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ
>
>
>> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
>> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>>
>> MMTTY , NON REV ,
>> MARK TONE  1275 HZ
>> 85 HZ SHIFT ,
>> 45.45 BAUD
>>
>> TX  SET .... 501.000  USB
>>
>> TNX
>> G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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> 




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Subject: LF: Data test . mode change - Filed Hell - cent  503.000 khz , 
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Tnx for reports on ALE mode,

Changed mode to  fileld hell , - multipsk -  cent freq  503.000

Tnx

Graham ..



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Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!


> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>
>
>
> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
> system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful
>
>
>
> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
>
>
>
> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
>
> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
>
>
>
> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
>
> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
>
>
>
> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
>
>
>
> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
>
>
>
> Reports  welome , did it print ?
>
>
>
> Tnx - G ..
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> 




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Jim,

> I will run the M0BMU beacon again tonight from approximately 2230utc, WOLF
> 10 mode, 503.800kHz. Any reports would be welcome.

Nothing from last night. Will be watching for at least part of this run.

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Hello Jean-Pierre and lf

> EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )

Thanks. Loc is KO45CN.
Good cpi WX 136319.5 but some qsb.
73! DX EW6GB



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Ok John,

I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see a way 
of selecting a soundcard ?
may be ive missed a setup box ?

I use a out board -usb- card for the radio and the motherboard one for the
system

Tnx

Graham ..



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> Graham,
>
> DL4YHF's WOLF GUI program may be downloaded at:
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>
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Hello Ed, this is my screen capture at 20H56 Z.
Stange reception, good at the begining and weak a the end of your CQ in  
QRSS10.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Sorry about that , the exciter failed .... after a fet taps , its back on ,=20=
beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lenght of about 4 seconds .=20

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:45 PM
  Subject: LF: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


  Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

  =20

  Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

  =20

  Station set up=20

  =20

  Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

  Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

  TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

  TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

  Mode , USB=20

  =20

  Test message=20

  =20

  CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



  Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



  Tnx



  Graham  - G0NBD- IO83LK=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry about that , the exciter failed ....=20=
after a=20
fet taps , its back on , beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lenght of=
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about 4 seconds . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:45=
=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Hf packet test 110 bau=
d ,=20
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Dear LF Group,

I will be running the Wolf beacon again tonight... 503.800kHz, Wolf 20 mode,
from about 2200utc. Any reports welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Jim,

> I
> will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode,
> 503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.

below the decoding from the soudfile started at 23:00 UTC:


t:  24 f:-0.671 a: 0.3 dp:139.2 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:  48 f:-0.671 a: 0.4 dp:140.8 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:  96 f:-0.672 a: 0.5 dp:141.6 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 192 f:-0.674 pm:139708 jm:495 q: -1.2 -0.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 288 f:-0.674 pm:278817 jm:495 q:  6.9  7.5 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 384 f:-0.674 pm:319636 jm:495 q: 11.0 11.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 480 f:-0.684 pm:511222 jm:495 q: 13.5 14.1 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 576 f:-0.684 pm:713432 jm:495 q: 15.1 15.9 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 672 f:-0.684 pm:738187 jm:495 q: 16.1 16.9 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 768 f:-0.684 pm:800802 jm:495 q: 16.6 17.3 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 864 f:-0.684 pm:830002 jm:495 q: 17.4 18.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 960 f:-0.684 pm:893781 jm:495 q: 17.9 18.3 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1056 f:-0.684 pm:912285 jm:495 q: 19.1 19.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1152 f:-0.693 pm:1007942 jm:495 q: 16.6 16.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1248 f:-0.693 pm:1014124 jm:495 q: 17.3 17.4 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1344 f:-0.693 pm:1014967 jm:495 q: 15.5 15.7 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1440 f:-0.693 pm:1015312 jm:495 q: 14.7 15.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1536 f:-0.693 pm:1016066 jm:495 q: 12.6 12.8 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1632 f:-0.693 pm:1016553 jm:495 q: 11.0 11.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Jean-Pierre,

Conditions appear to have been exceptionally stable last night.  I 
believe this is the first time I've seen XKO on your grabber with no 
fades for nearly three hours.

Dex, XKO


Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:
> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>



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Hello LF, Gary, Graham,

Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
following, of your last couple of overs..


(1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..

WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..

JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..

LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.

OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..

BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS

G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
V
OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
H YQQ:) B

MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS 
VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK


L73B  
AS
SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
73



Not too brilliant?


and this of Graham's CQ


VRYRYRY
SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD 
RYRSRYRS
YRYRY CQ CQ CQ D G0 B 
NOD G09
 
GYRYYRYRRYRYHCQCQ CQ DE G09?$  GBPNBDG0
B


Off now to watch the footy...

73

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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EZNEC 5 shows the 1200 fence (3ft hi) antenna to have remarkable receive 
properties
If terminated with 400ohms it produces a polar diagram not unlike a 
3-element Yagi with a maximum gain of -17dBi and a F/B of 14 dB.
The maximum elevation gain is 37 degrees although the elevation gain is 
within 2dB from 20 to 50degrees.
The antenna current shows a classic corkscrew current distribution of a 
travelling wave antenna.
If unterminated it loses its travelling wave characteristics and 
directivity.
EZNEC can use real ground or MiniNEC. I have used real ground with a 
conductivity of 0.005S/m and a dielectric constant of 13.
It would need matching. The calculated Z is R11 -j518.
The 2000m antenna is something else!

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Rik Strobbe wrote:
>> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
>> long  on 500kHz ...
>> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
> Hello Rik,
>
> MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on 
> MiniNEC, it does not properly model how the "real world" ground 
> interacts with the near field. As far as I know, it uses the ground 
> parameters for the far field calculations only. In other words, I 
> don't think MMANA is able to make meaningful performance predictions 
> for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.
>
> I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different 
> heights from 1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and 
> impedance figures were ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and 
> sometimes the real part of the impedance was negative! :-D
> Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to 
> trust the radiation patterns either.
>
>
>



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LF

20.05UTC

OR7T 419 to 519 calling CQ on 503.1kHz

Then in QSO with G3ZWH (very weak here)

Well done Rik!


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Ok John

Just noticed you have zero'd  in on the qso !

I'd say that was very good copy ,
its just that my typing is not that good !
and I think Gary was pressing the keys a little harder :)

Tnx

Graham ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: [500] RTTY 502kHz


> Hello LF, Gary, Graham,
>
> Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
> following, of your last couple of overs..
>
>
> (1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..
>
> WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..
>
> JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..
>
> LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.
>
> OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..
>
> BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS
>
> G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
> V
> OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
> H YQQ:) B
>
> MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS
> VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK
>
>
> L73B
> AS
> SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
> NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
> THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
> 73
>
>
>
> Not too brilliant?
>
>
> and this of Graham's CQ
>
>
> VRYRYRY
> SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD
> RYRSRYRS
> YRYRY CQ CQ CQ D G0 B
> NOD G09
>
> GYRYYRYRRYRYHCQCQ CQ DE G09?$  GBPNBDG0
> B
>
>
> Off now to watch the footy...
>
> 73
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




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Gents,=20
Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta v=
ersion of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users getti=
ng partial images.=20
After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, rath=
er as expected.
Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height and=
 not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were vis=
ible last night.
I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the she=
d roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems slightl=
y better than the reduced height main antenna.

I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but I=
 hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment or=20=
longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbers=
 to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground f=
or possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation=20=
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any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
Regards
Mark GM4ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk
follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at m=
y QTH is=20
now running a new&nbsp;beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the=20
problem of multiple users getting partial images. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After an initial rush of activity, the numb=
er of=20
users has calmed down, rather as expected.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to jump on board and try to break=
 it=20
again!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The system is connected to my main antenna=20=
but this=20
is at minimum height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well a=
nd=20
many signals were visible last night.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also got the magnetic antenna workin=
g,=20
(placed temporarily on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the wea=
ther=20
permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main=20
antenna.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont have the fantastically low noise flo=
or that=20
John GM4SLV offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration=
 of=20
the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough awa=
y=20
from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also=
 a=20
testing ground for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons=20=
for=20
propagation indication.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any comments or problems encounterd, please=
 let me=20
know!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk">www=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of t=
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ZDR Lubomir!
Yes, I rx'd your QSL before NY!
TNX.
This is first QSL in Russia for 500 kHz SWL-)
Historical paper.


* Lubom&#237;r Bobal&#237;k <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> [Thu, 17 Jan 2008=20
03:22:06 +0100]:
> Hello Roman and LFers!
> Thanks for OK0EMW report and captures. Do you have QSL, I sent you in
> the last month (Ty polucil QSL, kotorij ja pisal tebe v dekabre?=20
Dumaju
> uze est u tebja)?
> 73 to Moscow!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> ************************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman .
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:23 AM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM
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> OK0EMW, DI2AM, SM6BHZ in Moscow last night
>
> full report:
> www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> PS- Why is my emails with attached files don't send via reflector? The
> pix is not more up 9-17 kB
>
>
> * "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> [Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:41:55
> +0100]:
> > Received on 80m dipole:
> >
> > DI2AM -104dBm
> > OK0EMW - 117dBm
> >
> > Armchair (aural) copy.
> >
> > Slow QSB
> >
> > 73
> > Johan SM6LKM
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Many thanks Dominic.
   
  I obviously have not been reading the mail closely enough.
   
  Looks like you asked the right question.
   
  I have not progressed my rig beyond Xtal control because of the uncertanty about access to 600m.
   
  Once again many thanks for the reply.
   
  Hope to work you on 600m if we can hang on to it.
   
  73 Petefmt

ines@netbanx.com> wrote:
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  I asked this and John Gould said this:
   
  Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to know where we all stand.
   
  RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
  of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
  recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible, since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  
   
  There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!
   
  As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the application.  
   
  73 John, G3WKL
  RSGB HF Manager
   
  g3wkl@btinternet.com
   
   
  73
  Dom
   
      
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Hi All

     

    Does any one know the fate of UK 600m ? 

     

    Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer Watts  ;-)

     

    73 Petefmt

    
    
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<div>Many thanks Dominic.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I obviously have not been reading the mail closely enough.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Looks like you asked the right question.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I have not progressed my rig beyond Xtal control because of the uncertanty about access to 600m.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Once again many thanks for the reply.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Hope to work you on 600m if we can hang on to it.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 Petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>ines@netbanx.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator>  <STYLE>  v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  </STYLE>  <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"   /><o:SmartTagType name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType>  <STYLE>  st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }  </STYLE>    <STYLE>  <!--   /* Font Definitions */   @font-face   {font-family:Tahoma;   panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}   /* Style Definitions */   p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal   {margin:0cm;   margin-bottom:.0001pt;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";}  a:link, span.MsoHyperlink   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;}  a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;}  p   {mso-margin-top-alt:auto;   margin-right:0cm;   mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;   margin-left:0cm;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";} 
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 commented then that they would need to gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.&nbsp; I view that as sensible, since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area of interest.&nbsp; We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div   class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the application.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">73 John, G3WKL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">RSGB HF Manager<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier   New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">g3wkl@btinternet.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">73<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> 
 <DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">  <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> owner-<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Peter March<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 30 January 2008 16:43<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName   w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: Feb 1st approaches ...600m ... SP?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></div></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Hi All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does any one know the fate of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> 600m ? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:   12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer <st1:place w:st="on">Watts</st1:place>&nbsp; ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">73 Petefmt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">  <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=1>  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Support the World Aids Awareness
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Graham,

Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
lost some lines.
Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37

t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?

73
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Hello Jim,
Thanks for repeating the transmission in Wolf. I received now the first
time a signal in this mode:


2008-01-17 00:44:20 >WOLF10  -r 8000.000 -f 700 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.328 a:-0.9 dp: 47.4 ci:10 cj:  0 13 S0BN*TR73N6C ?
t:  48 f:-0.702 a: 0.4 dp: 42.8 ci: 4 cj:347 RA9P WGV8L8O1K2 ?
t:  96 f: 0.859 a:-0.7 dp: 39.4 ci:11 cj:310 H/ OF8CU4K5K6BJ ?
t: 192 f: 0.088 pm:0.227 jm:738 q: -5.9 -7.7 U/B*GSHG89*5301 ?
t: 288 f: 0.088 pm:0. 545 jm:738 q: -2.7 -4.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 384 f: 0.088 pm:0.832 jm:738 q: -0.6 -2.2 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 480 f: 0.088 pm:1.028 jm:738 q: -0.8 -1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 576 f: 0.088 pm:1.127 jm:738 q: -0.3 -1.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 672 f: 0.088 pm:1.258 jm:738 q:  0.4 -1.3 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 768 f: 0.088 pm:2.089 jm:738 q:  2.3  0.7 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 864 f: 0.088 pm:2.672 jm:738 q:  3.2  1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 960 f: 0.088 pm:3.161 jm:738 q:  3.9  3.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -

Very interesting i not heard the signal and not saw any signal in the
waterfall, but i decoded you until i switch off my receiver this
morning.

vy73

Marco, DD7PC

Loc: JN49ax, Rx: FT-857 & Miniwhip

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<mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> ] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF Beacon

Dear LF Group,

The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any reports
welcome.

I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly audible, but
only strong enough to decode on the peaks of the QSB.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Hello Jim,<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2>=
<FONT  size=3D3>Thanks for repeating the transmission in Wolf. I received no=
w&nbsp;the=20
first time a signal in this mode:</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff  size=
=3D2></FONT><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2>2008-01-17 00:44:20=20
&gt;WOLF10&nbsp; -r 8000.000 -f 700 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000<BR>t:&nbsp; 24 f: 0.328=
=20
a:-0.9 dp: 47.4 ci:10 cj:&nbsp; 0 13 S0BN*TR73N6C ?<BR>t:&nbsp; 48 f:-0.702=20=
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HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 384 f: 0.088 pm:0.832 jm:738 q: -0.6 -2.2 HNY 08 DE=20
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089=20
jm:738 q:&nbsp; 2.3&nbsp; 0.7 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 864 f: 0.088 pm:2.672=20
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jm:738 q:&nbsp; 3.9&nbsp; 3.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Very interesting i not heard&nbsp;the=20
signal&nbsp;and not saw any signal in the waterfall, but i decoded you until=
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switch off&nbsp;my receiver this morning.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>vy73</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Marco, DD7PC</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Loc: JN49ax, </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Rx: FT-857 &amp;=20
Miniwhip<BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [</FONT><A  href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"><FONT  size=3D2>mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
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Behalf Of James Moritz<BR>Sent: 16 January 2008 23:11<BR>To:=20
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Group,<BR><BR>The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any repo=
rts=20
welcome.<BR><BR>I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly=20
audible, but only strong enough to decode on the peaks of the=20
QSB.<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de=20
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Graham,

> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> G ..

I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?


t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t:  96 f:-2.399 a:-0.3 dp:109.6 ci:13 cj:165 *AF67Y???2T3BE0 ?
t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?

73
Hartmut
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Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
Alan G3NYK

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Hi All,

Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz , 

Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??

Running tx locked to  off air standard , 

intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??

tnx - Graham .



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Dear Rik, dr John, and all,

this has been a busy evening also for me!

I could hear Rik audible 5 6 9 from the beginning, but from time to
time
with deep qsb, therefore from his answer to the second station he
worked
I only got the final "v" (first thought it might have been G3KEV but
not
with a RST 339 rprt).

Luckily I also had the idea to look on the server in between, so I
learnt it had been John, GM4SLV.

Around 21.30 UTC Rik had a signal up to 579 but I had to accept that he
could not listen on 80 m.

I also observed the attempts of SM6BHZ to contact OR7T.

And then I read on the screen that GM4SLV's qrg was 502.1 kHz and that
he was listening on 3551 (much clearer than 3533) vor xband contacts! 

And this worked! I gave John 449 (I have heard him much better last
September and until November), he fell into deep qsb but continued to
hear me on 3551, so we could wait for his signal coming up again to
give
me 569 for my 30 watts on 80 m. 

On 500 kHz I am using a broad band loop aerial with 15 meters
circumference (30uH) pointing north, coupled via transformer and cable
into the shack to a selective amplifier, followed by a selective dual
gate fet mixer converter to 14 MHz and an old TS-830s.

Now I wish Rik to solve his amplifier problems and to clear the
problems
for listening on 80 meters.  

  


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Hi Luc
I am now on normal cw 502.5 if u hear me call on 3533 khz
73 Mal/G3KEV

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  Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
  No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


  Luc , ON4AOL


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Please, what power and  antenna are u using?

73

Bart
EA6QB

----- Original Message ----- 
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>I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
> 
> Reports welcomed.
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> Mike, G3XDV.
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> 
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What if JB put a big loading coil in the fence wire? I would think that 
would work just like our loaded short verticals...Sure there would be 
losses but we have losses in our transmitting antennas also.

Mike
WE0H


Rik Strobbe wrote:
> J.B. ,
>
> I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset 
> angle.
> But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the 
> offset angle is 78 degrees.
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD


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It looks like MF and LF acty has just about fizzled out. The reflector has
gone the same way, no discussion or observations. LF declined a long time
ago bar a couple of dedicated stations that keep plugging away. MF has not
even been going a year yet in the UK and only about four stations are really
active.
The effort on these low bands certainly does not justify the work involved,
special antennas and transmitters.
On the other hand 160m is going strong both local and dxing plus all the
other hf bands.
With so few stations mode diversifications does not help, all using
different modes and very little real communications taking place. The only
consistant activity is those stations using CW. This applies mostly to 500
khz, and this band is not attracting big numbers because the TX has to be
home built, antennas take up a good amount of space, that most amateurs do
not have and good CW operating is an advantage, all of which most cannot
fulfill.
Except there is some miracle around the corner the whole thing will just
fizzle out.
de Mal/G3KEV




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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the link!  I think this is something I'm going to experiment
with this spring and summer when the weather is more conducive to
working outside.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Johan,

indeed there are some limitations to MMANA. And when getting a 
negative radiation resistance one should get cautious.
But for small verticals and small loops MMANA seems to work OK. I am 
using version 1.0.0.65 of MMANA-GAL.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 15:27 22/01/2008, you wrote:
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>>It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to 
>>be long  on 500kHz ...
>>Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
>Hello Rik,
>
>MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on 
>MiniNEC, it does not properly model how the "real world" ground 
>interacts with the near field. As far as I know, it uses the ground 
>parameters for the far field calculations only. In other words, I 
>don't think MMANA is able to make meaningful performance predictions 
>for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.
>
>I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different 
>heights from 1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and 
>impedance figures were ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and 
>sometimes the real part of the impedance was negative! :-D
>Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to 
>trust the radiation patterns either.
>
>73
>Johan SM6LKM


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Hello LF group,

Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.

Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
damage.

Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
(not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
4 levels from 2m up to 11m.

This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.

The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
abates...


Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
key) in the near future.

Cheers,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the report and the 'grabber'!
Poor conditions, noisy band, so I make short transmissions to save 
electricity and 'save the planet'!

Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX
>
> WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
>
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Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the stron=
g signal performance to be wanting:

http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter March=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers


  Hi Laurence
  Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,  s=
ame principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much cheape=
r).

  You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also dow=
n load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to t=
une all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the=
 SDR RF section feeding your computer.=20

  This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out=
.

  Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if y=
ou are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does=
 just that... at a cost though!!

  One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic displ=
ay or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ....=
. The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other d=
ecoder features are to follow.

  So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached=20=
and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable conne=
ctivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.

  The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ co=
nnection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fittin=
g a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.

  One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for late=
r interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the origi=
nal recording.=20

  The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay yo=
u can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all the=
 signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section y=
our radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!

  Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group for up to date information.

  I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments=20=
are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.

  I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every=
 sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.

  Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the=
 free software.

  73 petefmt=20




  lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
    Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
    But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
    At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
    a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. lo=
oks=20
    good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
    I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccess=
esary=20
    to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or=20=
does it=20
    do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
    Any help gratefully received.
    73 Laurie





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an anal=
ysis on=20
the SDR-IQ and found the strong signal performance to be wanting:</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SD=
R/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SD=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
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  <A title=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">Peter March=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:=
10=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Laurence</DIV>
  <DIV>Whilst&nbsp;I don't have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I=20=
do=20
  with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio=20
  frequency (and much much cheaper).</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. Y=
ou=20
  can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you th=
e=20
  ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as=20=
if=20
  you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to tr=
y=20
  out.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but=
 if=20
  you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that d=
oes=20
  just that... at a cost though!!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic=20
  display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss=20=
CW=20
  ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it o=
ther=20
  decoder features are to follow.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file atta=
ched=20
  and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable=20
  connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.</DI=
V>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a=20=
IQ=20
  connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth=20
  fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.</DI=
V>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole ban=
d=20
  for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during=
 the=20
  original recording. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small=20=
out=20
  lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advan=
cing=20
  where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to t=
he=20
  RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes=20
  place!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Follow the <A     href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_y=
lc=3DX3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM=
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el=3Dnofollow><FONT color=3D#003399>Softrock-40 Interest Group=20
  </FONT></A>for up to date information.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's=
=20
  comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero=20
  cost.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in=20
  every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</=
DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Try <A     href=3D"http://www.flex-radio.com/">http://www.flex-radio.=
com/</A>&nbsp;but=20
  ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 petefmt&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead=20
  &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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    I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<BR>But all this investigati=
on=20
    has whetted my appetite for something better.<BR>At the moment I am torn=
=20
    between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<BR>a bit difficult to drive bu=
t=20
    could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <BR>good for LF. Or a tak=
e=20
    drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<BR>I really am in t=
he=20
    dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <BR>to=20
    re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display o=
r=20
    does it <BR>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot=20
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

     Thank you for the captures!
Your 'grabber' is a most excellent service to the LF community!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  Warren and  LFers ,
>
> Vy good propagation , last night i copy  :
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> WD2XGJ ( Visible until 10:30 utc 11:30 loc !.......  )
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> Grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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Dear OMs,
on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
and  RU6LA mm
Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73

It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?

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Propagation can be so different and a bit confusing on lf untill you get the=
 hang of it...180khz odd there is a constant battle between groundwave and s=
kywave after sunset  ..when the sky wave is in phase or additive to ground w=
ave sigs can be really good...skywave out of phase can and does completly ca=
ncel sigs and zero copy..the process in zl the phase cycle can vary from 5 t=
o 20mins...clasic path between timaru and wellington northisland sigs up the=
 coast during daylight are constant and usable ssb and cw  real time morse t=
hat is..inland hams located central otago here no ground wave on lf from wel=
lington..but come sunset and the reflective layers are working  on 180khz in=
 comes good signals..but on sea coast sigs either come stong or disappear al=
together from wellington...luck of the dice    all interesting fun though  .=
..whose got an antennae that can split  sky wave from ground wave   ??   geo=
rge zl3pn  73s

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Propagation can be so different and a bit c=
onfusing=20
on lf untill you get the hang of it...180khz odd there is a constant battle=20
between groundwave and skywave after sunset&nbsp; ..when the sky wave is in=20
phase or additive to ground wave sigs can be really good...skywave out of ph=
ase=20
can and does completly cancel sigs and zero copy..the process in zl the phas=
e=20
cycle can vary from 5 to 20mins...clasic path between timaru and wellington=20
northisland sigs up the coast during daylight are constant and usable ssb an=
d=20
cw&nbsp; real time morse that is..inland hams located central otago here no=20
ground wave on lf from wellington..but come sunset and the reflective layers=
 are=20
working&nbsp; on 180khz in comes good signals..but on sea coast sigs either=20=
come=20
stong or disappear altogether from wellington...luck of the=20
dice&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; all interesting fun though&nbsp; ...whose got an ante=
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that can split&nbsp; sky wave from ground wave&nbsp;&nbsp; ??&nbsp;&nbsp; ge=
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Gid-day all...Yes low long wire work very well if you have the space..In my=20=
tests of lf which go back 15 years with  special permit i carried out recept=
ion tests with 1000ft on foot hills to west of timaru next to the estate of=20=
late lord elworthy who was head of raf uk .thepickup of beacons and quietnes=
s directivity etc most effective...variants of that  of only  100ft of wire=20=
2or 3 ft above ground also..u must drive long pipe into ground each end and=20=
use capacitive or inductive means to couple..2 wires at right angles and 4 p=
ipes and switch directivity..that was tried by several lf hams...lots of tri=
cks to use on lf  ...first lf transmissions in timaru 100years ago by a tech=
 school boy who jammed out the british navy war ships in our port..their xta=
l sets wernt selective  hihi..the brits pounced on him he had a spark tx fed=
 into a disused telephone wire...he became a ham..i started off as school bo=
y ham from that school 58years ago...sorry to bore u brits    george   zl3pn=
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din and english city of chch )  cu

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gid-day all...Yes low long wire work very w=
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you have the space..In my tests of lf which go back 15 years with&nbsp; spec=
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permit i carried out reception tests with 1000ft on foot hills to west of ti=
maru=20
next to the estate of late lord elworthy who was head of raf uk .thepickup o=
f=20
beacons and quietness directivity etc most effective...variants of that&nbsp=
; of=20
only&nbsp; 100ft of wire 2or 3 ft above ground also..u must drive long pipe=20=
into=20
ground each end and use capacitive or inductive means to couple..2 wires at=20
right angles and 4 pipes and switch directivity..that was tried by several l=
f=20
hams...lots of tricks to use on lf&nbsp; ...first lf transmissions in timaru=
=20
100years ago by a tech school boy who jammed out the british navy war ships=20=
in=20
our port..their xtal sets wernt selective&nbsp; hihi..the brits pounced on h=
im=20
he had a spark tx fed into a disused telephone wire...he became a ham..i sta=
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Hello Jim, nice conditions again tonight.  


F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
2008-01-18 22:48:07  >WOLF10  -r 11025.000 -f 777 -t  1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000 
t:  24 f:-0.961 a:-1.3 dp: 77.7 ci:15 cj: 72  73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t:  48 f:-0.963 a:-1.1 dp: 77.0 ci:15 cj: 72  73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t:  96 f:-0.957 a: 1.3 dp: 73.4 ci:15 cj: 72  73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 192 f:-0.957 pm:75.95  jm:817 q:  2.6  2.5 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 288 f:-0.957 pm:99.88  jm:817 q:  6.3  6.6 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
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t: 480 f:-0.957 pm:206.7  jm:817 q:  7.9  8.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 576 f:-0.957 pm:229.1  jm:817 q:  9.1  9.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 672 f:-0.957 pm:271.5  jm:817 q: 11.1 11.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 768 f:-0.957 pm:290.7  jm:817 q: 12.3 12.6 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 864 f:-0.957 pm:310.6  jm:817 q: 13.1 13.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 960 f:-0.957 pm:311.2  jm:817 q: 12.7 12.8 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
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Dear LF Group,

The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any reports welcome.

I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly audible, but only
strong enough to decode on the peaks of the QSB.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Warren,

I had a mistake, the Doppler effect was negative, e.g. -4Hz; I forgot I was=20=
receiving on LSB.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jose,

     Great !  Thank you,!
  Evidently some ionospheric bending as I suspected, there are two other rep=
orts from Europe as far as I know.

  Please send your report to:
  mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu

  73 Warren K2ORS


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    Warren and all,

    Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about=20=
-4=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler effect.

    Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse,=
 but always visibles.


    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



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      perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively s=
ome 'horizon gain'?

      73 Warren K2ORS





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dk2ors@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">K2ORS</A> <=
/DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:=
10=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Fw: Information Ab=
out=20
  the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Great !&nbsp; Thank=20
  you,!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Evidently some ionospheric bending as I=20
  suspected, there are two other reports from Europe as far as I=20
  know.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please send your report to:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"mailto:mbreport@haarp.alas=
ka.edu">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <A title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@telefonica.ne=
t">Jose=20
    Manuel</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, 2008=20=
11:45=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Fw: Information=20=
About=20
    the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Warren and all,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Detected here some weak echoes even aft=
er=20
    Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler=20
    effect.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB=
, even 2=20
    peaks in the same pulse, but always visibles.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV=
>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <A title=3Dk2ors@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">K2ORS</=
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</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
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gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2008=20=
10:01=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Fw: Informatio=
n=20
      About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perhaps you will get some bending by=20=
the=20
      ionosphere or alternatively some 'horizon gain'?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Paul-Henrik,

nice to be heard at 1680km.
Calculated Rrad of my antenna is 0.25 Ohm and antennacurrent is 1.4 A  
so theoretical ERP is 0.5 Watt. But I guess that the many trees  
surrounding the antenna absorb half of it, more likely it 0.25 W ERP.
A long way to go to the 5 Watt ERP limit ...

73, Rik

Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> LF
>
> 20.05UTC
>
> OR7T 419 to 519 calling CQ on 503.1kHz
>
> Then in QSO with G3ZWH (very weak here)
>
> Well done Rik!
>
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Tnx again Lubos!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  GM LFers!

  Nice strong signal from DI2BO yet.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx again&nbsp;Lubos!</FONT></DIV>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:08:58 -0000
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Does anyone have an e-mail address for Doug, G3ZWH? I had a QSO with
> him earlier, and said I would send him some info.


I'd also appreciate the info as I've heard him several times over the
last week or so and despite many, many calls he's always failed to hear
me. At least an email would let him know he's making the trip to the
outer reaches of the Empire! 

I suppose a QSL to the address listed on QRZ.COM would also suffice.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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You guys should try to get 501-510kc and hopefully US can get down to 
501kc rather than our 505kc we have now.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16

Rik Strobbe wrote:
> BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
> (upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>> On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>> >
>> But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall a 
>> time when in the United States of America top band was not available 
>> in many areas.
>>
>> 73
>> John F5VLF/G3PAI
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
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Good point John,



But, personally I  could not see the point of a grabber on 80 meter's ?



G ..



>>>  I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
>>>  rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.




----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:43:34 -0000
> "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> Turn the speed up boys
>
> No, for the reasons explained in a previous posting to the list.
>
> Personally speaking, my grabber isn't intended to allow remote stations
> to follow CW QSOs by eye via the internet, it is there to provide a
> visual snapshot of band activity and to act as a remote pair of ears
> for other stations.
>
> The refresh and scrolling speed is chosen to allow this.
>
>
> If others want faster scrolling to read CW by eye then they are of
> course free to use their computers, receivers, antennas, broadband
> connection and web-space as they see fit.
>
> Mal, if  you think such a facility would benefit 500 users then I
> suggest you set one up yourself. As in all things, if you want
> something doing you're always better to do it yourself.
>
> I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
> rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 




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Greetings all,

G0MRF@aol.com schrieb:
>  
> I have 5MB download speed here, so perhaps an issue with the number of 
> users at present.
This is what I guess, too. If more than two or three users request the 
same image (spectrogram), the file is created "new" (with slightly 
different contents), and the first user receives for example the first 
half of an older file, and the second half of a newer file which was 
created when a new file request arrives.

Similar effects can be seen on other grabbers (though less frequent), 
when the file is updated just in the moment it is downloaded. Making the 
refresh interval longer will reduce the effect, but not cure it.
The only cure I can think of at the moment is to produce a new filename 
for every new request, and delete old files only if they are not used 
any longer. I will try to reproduce the effect locally (with a few PCs 
in the local network).

I will let you know as soon as an improved version is available. Until 
then, the easiest solution would be to periodically upload the waterfall 
image via FTP to a server with a larger bandwidth (remember, the upload 
bitrate of a "home" ADSL connection is much lower than the download 
bitrate).

Cheers, 
  Wolf .



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Here in new-zealand a number of lf hams used or have used  a phased wire or=20=
rod to alter the reception patterns to reduce man made and natural atmospher=
e noise ..on lf...they could north only sensitivity or throw a switch and li=
sten south only..not used of course on transmitting..havnt used that system=20=
my self as i am in a quiet country style setting on southern edge of timaru.=
....but in early days 14years ago i was blocked by  s9plus 40 powerline carr=
iers on lf band..they were generated on north side of timaru city...i built=20=
a 16ft square loop tuned to lf..the sharp null of the loop was aimed at the=20=
direction of the ham signal i wanted.  the big vertical was used as main gen=
eral recieve antennae..the noise picked up by the loop was fed out of phase=20=
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Dear John, Marco, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments. I will run the WOLF beacon again tonight, probably
from around 2200utc onwards. On W1TAG's suggestion, I intend to change the
operating frequency to 503.8kHz.

I monitored the transmission overnight, using a separate RX and PC running
WOLF - the carrier frequency drifted slowly between nominal and about 0.1Hz
low, which should be well within the capabilities of the WOLF software.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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On 20 Jan 2008 at 13:48, gboorerzl3pn wrote:

> thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should
> be able to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of
> the hams lucky enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away
> back in 50s on 14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in
> group a all silent keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora

Sorry, but what has this to do with 136kHz or 500kHz?

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Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

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Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

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Station set up=20

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Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

Mode , USB=20

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Test message=20

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CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



Tnx



Graham  - G0NBD- IO83LK=20

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Hi Uwe ,
Nothing seen on the grabber, it is perhaps: EW6GB ?
I copied it Saturday around this frequency !
73 qro J-P f1afj

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> Hello all.
> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
> QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
> who was it?
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
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Hello Hartmut and Joe ,

Nil on my screen !
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Joe,
>
> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>> will reamin in operation.
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>
> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've=20
> got some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>
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Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not
AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030 which
has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well
it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most of
the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,
never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite
expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be "bodged" to put
the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.

I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie's RX they
are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily !!

Alan G3NYK

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> Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
> of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at all
!
>
> I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
> listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
> nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point
and
> click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
> having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've
just
> never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
> enough for QRSS as it is.
>
> AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
> constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and
is
> always at fixed gain.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
> > This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
> > receiver.
> > This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> > for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of
the
> > receivers
> > I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of
these
> > receivers
> > is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the
pass
> > band
> > will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal
could
> > quite
> > disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> > filter so that
> > signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> > de-sensitisation, and this
> > could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> > Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> > Or do I look for another R1792
> >
> > 73 Laurie G3AQC
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>



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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Nicolas,
TNX for capture!

Strange propagation was in RU6L QTH also at night Jan 5-6:
RA9AT's and DK4U's signals also was faded from "FB O" in 3s mode to down to "T" in 30s mode of Argo and not any traces on XKO and only some XGJ's traces abt my sunrise.

73! Ed RU6LA

-----Original Message-----
From: F4DTL@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:37:58 EST
Subject: LF: RU6LA /P

> 
> Hello Ed, this is my screen capture at 20H56 Z.
> Stange reception, good at the begining and weak a the end of your CQ in  
> QRSS10.
>  
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> 
> RX: IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT
> 


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Hi Luc I guess you are just tripping the limit. I think a total size
including text and headers of 32kB was once quoted.
Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc






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Dear OMs,
thank You for Your replies. Next weekend I will be qrv again on 137k77 in qr=
ss3/ qrss10. It is a challenge to transmit from a little cottage with garden=
 in urban noise environment. Please answer on my calls. there is allways a f=
ree frequency in qrss-bandwidth.=20

55,
Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND


> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 07.01.08 20:02:29
> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Betreff: LF: 136k Weekend Acty 5.-6.01.2007


>=20
> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
>=20
> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
>=20
> Hans-Albrecht
> DK 8 ND
> cba
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Hello Lubos,

Thank you for the report & screen shot, I will continue with the 
transmission, it may get better for you.

My power tonight is 65 to 70 mW ERP due to the blustery winds twisting the 
capacity top hat & causing it to shield the elevated inductance. I will wait 
for better weather to repair the antenna.

The 12 wpm CW is just visible in your capture.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Subject: LF: [500] G4WGT_ OK2BVG


Hi Gary!
That´s fine, I see your signal. The conditions are not too good, band is
very noisy and signal has got long and deep QSB. But ... I can see your
QRSS3.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG




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Hartmut,

I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you 
think that was happening at your end?

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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Jim,
>  decoded from soundfiles.


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Hello Walter,

thanks for the report.
My 500kHz setup is very experimental. As the UK=20
NoV's may expire by the end of February 2008 I=20
wanted to be QRV asap and make some QSO's.
The PA is a modified 137kHz PA but efficiency is=20
very bad (40 %) and thus the PA gets very hot=20
what forces me to keep transmissions short.
Also at this moment I have only 1 antenna, the=20
500kHz antenna and this one is deaf on HF (as=20
expected). So no xband for the moment.
Next week will be very busy, so I won't be QRV=20
nor have time to do some changes.
After that I will try to build a proper 500kHz=20
transmitter and hang up some wire for xband.
I am tempted by Jim's 500 kHz TX design and will=20
try to adapt it for higher power (400 Watt) in=20
order to get my ERP in the 1..3 Watt range.
That should give me a solid signal all over Europe and maybe allow some DX.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 10:08 31/01/2008, you wrote:
>It seems the mail system did not accept my mail from yesterday eve.
>
>Dear Rik,
>           your signal was mostly audible here=20
> in JN59NO, when you made the QSO=B4s with G3XVL=20
> and GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is=20
> 95=B5V. Heard G3XVL for a short time.
>I called you on 3533kHz  for several times. Hw abt QSX?
>73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
>


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Hello Walter,<br><br>
thanks for the report.<br>
My 500kHz setup is very experimental. As the UK NoV's may expire by the
end of February 2008 I wanted to be QRV asap and make some QSO's.<br>
The PA is a modified 137kHz PA but efficiency is very bad (40 %) and thus
the PA gets very hot what forces me to keep transmissions short.<br>
Also at this moment I have only 1 antenna, the 500kHz antenna and this
one is deaf on HF (as expected). So no xband for the moment.<br>
Next week will be very busy, so I won't be QRV nor have time to do some
changes.<br>
After that I will try to build a proper 500kHz transmitter and hang up
some wire for xband.<br>
I am tempted by Jim's 500 kHz TX design and will try to adapt it for
higher power (400 Watt) in order to get my ERP in the 1..3 Watt
range.<br>
That should give me a solid signal all over Europe and maybe allow some
DX.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
<br>
At 10:08 31/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font size=3D2>It seems the m=
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<font size=3D2>Dear Rik,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; your signal was
mostly audible here in JN59NO, when you made the QSO=B4s with G3XVL and
GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is 95=B5V. Heard G3XVL for a short
time.<br>
I called you on 3533kHz&nbsp; for several times. Hw abt QSX?<br>
73&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DI2AG / DJ2LF<br>
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
2 partial traces , 1 "N" at 02:20 (good)
however the band was not very clean this night

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj



















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Hi Finbar, LF,

Copy your Feld Hell transmission OK 100%.

Screen print to large for LF so sent direct.

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Hello James,

Was your signal audible ( 10/15 dB with the top of the noise ) but
it is strange step possible to decode ? however my configuration is
correct ( I copy WD2XES well from 137 Khz ) in attachment a copy
of Winrad.
=20
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon last night. At least 2 stations
> were able to decode it correctly, so at least I know it is set up right! I
> will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode=
,
> 503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

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Hello DJ8WX!
capture of your beacon here in KO85sv.
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:27:17 +0000 (GMT)
Mike Thayne <g3gms@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John
> Pleased to hear from you again. I just wanted to let you know my 500
> experiments would have ground to a halt had it not been for the
> assistance you have given me in providing your Grabber.


Hello Mike, LF

It's been nice to get back in the shack and exchange some emails, even
if I can't now get on the key on 500 until the antenna is repaired.

I'm glad my grabber has been of use, despite the inability to read
full speed CW on the waterfall -hi!! Your kind words are a great source
of encouragement that I've been able to provide something of value to
the "500kHz community". 

At least my hardware can be used to help others improve their stations.

This is a better use for my gear than me just turning it on for an hour
or so every few days, bashing out a few CQs and then turning it all off
again. 

To have a 24/7 remote receiver showing the full band at least allows
everyone to get a rough signal report from this far flung corner of the
UK, whether I'm available or not. Of course a real QSO is great, but
for those of us with jobs and other commitments outside of amateur
radio this isn't always possible.

Hope to see you on 500 soon,

John



 



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Lubos
GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
73 Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hallo Finbar and LFers!

  I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

  =20

  Have a nice weekend!

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all d=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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Hello all,

In practice even a short in regards of wavelength wire on the ground shows 
good directivity. A 100 m long untermintated wire on the ground is already 
an excellent antenna from 250 kHz and up. This antenna is unidirectional.

I have been testing some real barbed wire fences of 1500 metre long, which 
showed a very narrow beamwidth in one direction.

If you have the opportunity, there are many usuable fences out there which 
can be put to good use as a reception antenna. You might be in for a nice 
surprise.

As these antenna don't work as normal antennas, the modelling programs won't 
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Maybe they were trying to warm up the air so spring would arrive soon 
this year? hi hi...

Mike
WE0H


lawrence mayhead wrote:
> Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,
> trans- polar routes.
> BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don't doubt that 
> several Mw
> directed  at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am 
> surprised
> that more people did'nt hear it, is this the purpose ?
> So I am confused, can anyone help ?
> 73 Laurie


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Laurie

> Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?

The Icom R75 is working well for many of us.

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Sorry Jim

Your signal is  10 db over the noise floor, found the software, but dont see 
how to  point it at my out board -usb- sound card , I assume you can select 
, but how ?

Tnx

G ..


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> Dear LF Group,
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> Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
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What a fantastic range of RF products,!  And all without the nausea of long
delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added on.

Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)

Andy  G4JNT


On 17/01/2008, cricri <cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> The answer is there :
> http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php
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> regards
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> Xtian / F1VL
>
>
> Nick Mclean (SYD) a =E9crit :
> >  Hi all, Does anybody on the group know of a parts supplier that can
> > supply small quantities of BB119 or BA102 Varicap diodes?
> > 73's
> >
> >
> > Nic McLean
> >
> > VK2KXN / VK5ZAT
> >
> > Tel:  02 99410619
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> > Fax: 02 98139009
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> > Mobile:  0417 822 728
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<div>What a fantastic range of RF products,!&nbsp; And all without the nause=
a of long delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added=
 on.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Incidently, why is &quot;Low Noise&quot; the Italian for, well,&nbsp; L=
ow Noise ??:-)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17/01/2008, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername=
">cricri</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr">cricri.f1vl@wanad=
oo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hello,<br>The answer is there :<br=
><a href=3D"http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php">http://www.rfmicrowa=
ve.it/eng/home_eng.php
</a><br><br>regards<br><br>Xtian / F1VL<br><br><br>Nick Mclean (SYD) a =E9cr=
it :<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi all, Does anybody on the group know of a parts su=
pplier that can<br>&gt; supply small quantities of BB119 or BA102 Varicap di=
odes?
<br>&gt; 73&#39;s<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nic McLean<br>&gt;<br>&gt; VK2KXN=20=
/ VK5ZAT<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Tel:&nbsp;&nbsp;02 99410619<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Fax: 02=
 98139009<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Mobile:&nbsp;&nbsp;0417 822 728<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br=
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<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><=
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Hi Uwe,
capture last morning  03.47-05.47z
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Hi Luc!
I normaly using JPG files no bigger than 25kB and it works fine. 
 
Lubos, OK2BVG 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Luc van Achte
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
To: LF
Subject: LF: [500] General question
 
Hi LFers .
 
Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from
OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?
 
 
73  Luc
 
 
 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: [500] General
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In coaxing the draft into the format required by IARU, and re-checking some
of the references, I've noticed an inconsistency between my last draft and
the current Band Plan. This is that the agreed transmission bandwidth for
the band is 200Hz maximum.   As I don't see a strong case for proposing that
this is changed I have limited the amendments to reducing the guidelines on
usage.   =20

My thanks to Mike, G3XDV, who made some useful suggestions directly on the
earlier wording.

The latest draft is attached, although it should be noted that at present it
carries not weight, and if put forward to Conference would need to be
discussed and ageed before being implemented.

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It is now about 11 months from the next triennial IARU Region 1 Conference.
This is an opportunity to gain agreement on a wide range of IARU policy and
procedure changes in our hobby.   A number of people agree that the current
comments re the 136kHz band in the Band Plan need revising to reflect the
current operating conditions.  Following the success of WRC07 in gaining
wider access for Amateurs on the band, there is also a case for adding in
some appropriate wording to reflect the increased access in the near future.

Whilst I've floated a slightly earlier version of the attached text across
one of two of those on this reflector I thought that it would be helpful to
seek wider views on the draft before I submit it to the RSGB Board for their
endorsement.=20

In putting forward this proposal the opportunity for other national
societies to make different proposals is not affected.  It would, however,
make the process on reaching the final agreement if there is a general
consensus on proposals being put forward.  I therefore welcome any comments,
particularly those that might affect people in Regions 2 and 3.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager
IARU Region 1 LF Coordinator=20

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thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should be able 
to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of the hams lucky 
enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away back in 50s on 
14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in group a all silent 
keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <steve.jepson@gmail.com>
To: <amateur-radio@mail.nzart.org.nz>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: [amateur-radio] Funeral Coverage Satellite details


> At 09:16 p.m. 18/01/2008, you wrote:>Yes,>>IS2 C band - TVNZ service and 
> full uniterupted coverage on TV1.>>There ya have it.There is also suppose 
> to be a special satellite feed for Nepal TV. Asiasat2 would be my 
> pickAssisting Wide Intrntl Coverage of HIllary FuneralFriday, 18 January 
> 2008, 11:08 amPress Release: Television New ZealandTVNZ Assists Wide 
> International Media Coverage of Hillary FuneralAs host broadcaster of the 
> State Funeral of Sir Edmund Hillary, TVNZ wants to maximise the 
> accessibility of the broadcast to all New Zealanders, and to the rest of 
> the world.In addition to TVNZ's own live broadcast on TV ONE, live 
> streaming on tvnz.co.nz and replay on TVNZ ondemand, TVNZ has offered the 
> broadcast free of charge to domestic and international radio and 
> television broadcasters and agencies.So far the following news 
> organisations have requested access to the TVNZ feed:ABC Australia, Al 
> Jazeera, APTN, BBC, Channel 9 Australia, Channel 10 Australia, CNN, EBU 
> (European Broadcasting Union), Reuters Australia, SBS Australia, Sky News 
> Australia, Prime/Sky, Radio Works, TV Works, and Newstalk ZB.TVNZ has also 
> organised a special satellite link for Nepal TV to allow the live 
> broadcast to be screened there.In Antarctica, the live broadcast will be 
> fed to Scott Base via TVNZ's Pacific Service, which will also carry the 
> ceremony.Chief Executive Rick Ellis said the decision to make the 
> broadcast available without charge was recognition of the unique position 
> Sir Edmund held in the eyes of the world.TVNZ's live coverage of the State 
> Funeral will begin at 10am on Tuesday, with commentary provided before and 
> after the service itself by broadcasters Simon Dallow and Mark Sainsbury. 
> The service in St Mary's Church in the grounds of Holy Trinity Cathedral 
> in Parnell will be broadcast without commentary, unless points of 
> explanation are absolutely necessary.ENDS
>
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> To: <amateur-radio@nzart.org.nz>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:12 PM
> Subject: [amateur-radio] Suggestion from george f boorer
>
>
>> Hi amateur-radio nz,
>>
>>
>> george f boorer stopped by Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
>> and suggested that you visit the following URL:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2008/sir_edmund_hillary_state_funeral.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is their message....
>> I hope they relay it live on television in england so my son and family 
>> can see it...lets change the queens chain around all our lakes rivers and 
>> sea coast to the hillary chain..then us true old kiwis will always 
>> remember our great country.
>>
>> Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
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Hi Mark,

Sorry to report that the situation is the same for me as before. Only small 
strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.

Surely the slow link is adequate, what do others think ?

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


Mark,

Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the screen, 
which is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  click on the 
'slow' link ..

Graham ..
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark
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  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
  Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


  Gents,
  Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta 
version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users 
getting partial images.
  After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, 
rather as expected.
  Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
  The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height 
and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were 
visible last night.
  I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the 
shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems 
slightly better than the reduced height main antenna.

  I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but 
I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment or 
longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbers 
to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground 
for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation 
indication.

  any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk
  follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.


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Hi Mike,
Your signal is good !
see on my grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 J-P f1afj JN06HT


Mike Dennison a =E9crit :
> I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run=20
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from=20
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
>
> Reports welcomed.
>
> Mike, G3XDV.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg

73s Tracey

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss 
his
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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WE2XGR/6 559 solid audio copy at 2348 utc 2nd Jan 2008

The usual dips in qsb.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough


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st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500K=
HZ.. 73S GEORGE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:33 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  Mike,

  it started on 15 januari 2008.
  All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the give=
n restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.
  Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this al=
location until BIPT tells us otherwise.
  Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you ne=
ed a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. Operating 600m as ON=
/Gxxxx is not permitted.

  73, Rik ON7YD

  At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:

    Hello Rik and group,
    =20
    Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will s=
tart?
    Maybe I have missed it.
    =20
    Best regards
    =20
    Mike
    =20
    GW4HXO.
    ________________________________________________________________________=
_
    =20

    Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium
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    Dear all,
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    today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can =20
    use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds, =20
    so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
    =20
    I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
    =20
    73, Rik  ON7YD
    =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz=20=
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  Belgium</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mike,<BR><BR>it started on 15 januari 2008.<BR>All holders=20=
of a=20
  "full licence" can use the new allocation within the given restrictions (m=
ax.=20
  5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.<BR>Interesting to=20
  notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this allocation until=20=
BIPT=20
  tells us otherwise.<BR>Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEP=
T=20
  agreements, so you need a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this ban=
d.=20
  Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.<BR><BR>73, Rik ON7YD<BR><BR>A=
t=20
  11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:<BR>
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er New, Courier">Hello Rik and group,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Can you please=20
    confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will start?<BR>Maybe=20=
I=20
    have missed it.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Best=20
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    LF: 500 kHz in Belgium<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Dear all,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>today we (UBA=
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    received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can&nbsp; <BR>use the=20
    segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,&nbsp; <BR>=
so=20
    including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I will try=
 to=20
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HNY Dave,
last night i copied now the first time also your beacon on 503.7KHz -
amazing!

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Hi Gary!
That=B4s fine, I see your signal. The conditions are not too good, band is
very noisy and signal has got long and deep QSB. But ... I can see your
QRSS3.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] OK2BVG_G4WGT_ 500KHz test

Hi Lubos, LF,

I will continue with the test transmission until I retire to bed which
will=20
be about 2300 to 2330 utc.

There may be some short breaks but the transmission will be back
continuous=20
from 2200 utc.

The CW ID is now 12 wpm.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: LF: [500] OK2BVG_G4WGT_ 500KHz test


> Hello Gary and LFers!
> I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
> will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
> receiver will be ON.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> *****************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:32 PM
> To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
> Subject: LF: 500KHz test
>
> Hi LF,
>
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

       Thanks for the report!
I did a short low-power (250 watts) test last night.
Conditions do not seem to be very good.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX
>
> WD2XGJ ( just visible one "X" in qrss120 at 02:30 , Warren what your power 
> ? )
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
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Vern,

almost omnidirectional and 90 degrees takeoff.
But don't believe too much of that.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 16:40 22/01/2008, you wrote:
>HI Rik...
>
>I use a 2000' and 1000' unterminated longwires that simply lay on the ground
>and are used specifically for 500khz and down. I have been very impressed
>with their performance on NDB's etc. Beacons ranging in the 5000-7000 km
>range are heard on a nightly basis. Just wondering what your software say's
>for these as far as expected performance.
>
>Vern - VE1VDM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:58
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire
>
>J.B. ,
>
>I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
>On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
>But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
>offset angle is 78 degrees.
>It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be long
>on 500kHz ...
>Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
> >Hello LFers & Lowfers,
> >
> >I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on an existing
> >fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
> >3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3 feet off the
> >ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
> >The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is a stainless
> >steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a cedar tree at ground level.
> >
> >The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my QTH favours
> >Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
> >off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander and Shanwick in
> >the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire is several S units stronger
> >and MUCH quieter than my 80 M inverted V.
> >
> >On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions with better
> >signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip or untuned delta loop.
> >The same holds true for listening around the broadcast LW & MW bands or
> >NDB chasing.
> >The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the noise on the
> >longwire.
> >
> >Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising result, if
> >that's the only option you've got!
> >
> >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> >Solar and wind powered
> >Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> >EN93dr
> >
> >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
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Jim,
 decoded from soundfiles.

73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp 

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23:15 UTC
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t:  48 f:-0.413 a: 1.2 dp:141.7 ci: 0 cj:  0 ???MLU G44HYKVK ?
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t: 192 f:-0.410 pm:261588 jm:660 q: 11.2 11.0 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 288 f:-0.410 pm:325000 jm:660 q: 10.8 11.0 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 384 f:-0.410 pm:327762 jm:660 q: 14.5 14.6 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 480 f:-0.420 pm:949036 jm:660 q: 18.0 18.0 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 576 f:-0.420 pm:1544565 jm:660 q: 19.4 19.5 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 672 f:-0.420 pm:1741301 jm:660 q: 20.0 20.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 768 f:-0.420 pm:1785178 jm:660 q: 20.2 20.6 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 864 f:-0.420 pm:1793048 jm:660 q: 20.5 20.5 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -

00:00 UTC
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t:  96 f:-0.475 a: 0.0 dp:147.7 ci:15 cj:195 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 192 f:-0.479 pm:69161 jm:571 q:  7.6  7.1 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 288 f:-0.479 pm:285658 jm:571 q: 12.8 12.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 384 f:-0.479 pm:321188 jm:571 q: 13.2 13.2 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 480 f:-0.479 pm:588464 jm:571 q: 14.6 14.9 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 576 f:-0.479 pm:598978 jm:571 q: 13.4 13.8 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 672 f:-0.479 pm:659004 jm:571 q: 12.7 12.9 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 768 f:-0.479 pm:839608 jm:571 q: 14.9 15.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 864 f:-0.479 pm:940381 jm:571 q: 16.1 16.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -

00:15 UTC
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t:  48 f:-0.489 a: 0.4 dp:148.2 ci: 1 cj:  0 *I.X34AL0I5MMYC ?
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t: 288 f:-0.488 pm:406767 jm:444 q: 15.7 15.8 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 384 f:-0.488 pm:516736 jm:444 q: 15.4 15.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 480 f:-0.498 pm:557116 jm:444 q: 16.8 16.7 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 576 f:-0.498 pm:782108 jm:444 q: 16.8 16.7 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 672 f:-0.498 pm:964560 jm:444 q: 16.7 16.4 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 768 f:-0.498 pm:1242401 jm:444 q: 17.2 17.0 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -
t: 864 f:-0.498 pm:1392726 jm:444 q: 18.3 18.3 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -



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Hello J B and all ,
look at : =20
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=3DPTO1&Sect2=3DHITOFF&d=3DP=
ALL&p=3D1&u=3D/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=3D1&f=3DG&l=3D50&s1=3D3984839.PN.&=
OS=3DPN/3984839&RS=3DPN/3984839
73 qro J-P f1afj


J. B. Weazle McCreath a =E9crit :
> Hello Lowfers & LFers,
>
> My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
> as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
> very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
> is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.
>
> It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
> the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
> and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
> is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
> the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial lin=
e
> which in turn varies the inductance.
>
> Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
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>
>
>
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>
>  =20

--=20
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hi ..i hope you have tracked down the noise source problem.....plazma tv 
sets can be bad..also those compact flourescent lamp bulbs...noisy 
devices...have few in house and turn off when on 181khz...i was testing out 
500khz reciever the other nite and what a noise there...the penny dropped 
and i realised the back wokshop lite was on with eco lamp..turned it off and 
all quiet...getting ready for when the (balloon goes up )and govt. gives us 
permission to go on 500khz  73s george zl3pn
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> G3XDV
> WD2XGJ
> The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized 
> more and more ........
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
>
>
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>
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj



















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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!

WD2XGJ will be off tonight.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: [PHISH] LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> WD2XGJ ( vy good copy )
>
> Nil of Europ/Asia
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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> -- 
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Laurence-yes i will discuss possible test with u .summer time we have fortni=
tely transmission on lf..link up on 80metrs...i dont have slooow morse but s=
everal kiwis do...the big long distances were done from quartz hill near wel=
linton..a disused com site which hams have use of meantime..talk of wind pow=
er going up there so dont no how long we have that perk site..a ham friend o=
f mine 12miles south has slooow mores on lf..i will discus it to with him...=
winter time in south would be best as  'd'layer absorbsion is lower..but it=20=
is strange how the ionesphere kicks in at times  bye for now   ill get back=20=
to you george73s  ps waiting for south americans to come on lf..do pick up t=
heir nav beacons    73s
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:10 AM
  Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS o=
n an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundow=
n Singapore-17Z sunrise ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to Wellingt=
on.
  =20
  If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear f=
rom anyone....
  =20
  Laurence 9V1 LF
  Singapore
  http://kl1x.xom




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    From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:11:46 +1300
    Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


    Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a=
 quiet period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz.=
..ssb is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundw=
aves thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox=20=
during equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found o=
n longer distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or d=
usk...strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7=20=
you can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband n=
o carrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird b=
ut that what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Laurence KL1X=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
      Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


      George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq=
 mode/times etc
      =20
      WIth thanks
      =20
      Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia




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        From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:37:10 +1300
        Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


        st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new=
-zealand..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but=
 NO 500KHZ.. 73S GEORGE
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence-yes i will discuss possible test with u .su=
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slooow morse but several kiwis do...the big long distances were done from qu=
artz=20
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k of=20
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h=20
him...winter time in south would be best as&nbsp; 'd'layer absorbsion is=20
lower..but it is strange how the ionesphere kicks in at times&nbsp; bye for=20
now&nbsp;&nbsp; ill get back to you george73s&nbsp; ps waiting for south=20
americans to come on lf..do pick up their nav beacons&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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  Belgium</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow=20
  (slooow) CW/QRSS on an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is=20
  presently 10Z sundown Singapore-17Z&nbsp;sunrise&nbsp;ZL appx. Range aroun=
d=20
  5200 statute miles to Wellington.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>If there is any other ZL or=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down=
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    and lf goes into a quiet period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc=
=20
    thursday is 181.4khz...ssb is on 182.7 lsb&nbsp; usally sunday mornings=20
    where we bounce strong groundwaves thru mountain ranges with ease...long=
=20
    range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox during equinox times&nbsp; sigs get int=
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aks=20
    when one side of contact is in dawn or dusk...strange things happen on s=
sb=20
    when ioensphere is working down at 182.7 you can get extreme selective=20
    fading..u can switch then to double sideband no carrier and the chap pic=
ks=20
    out which side is the strongest..sounds weird but that what happens on=20
    lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn</FONT></DIV>
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      <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com         href=3D"mailto:hello=
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=20
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g in=20
      ZL ie freq mode/times etc<BR>&nbsp;<BR>WIth thanks<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Lauren=
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      9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi JP,

The TX was on all last night (unkeyed carrier)
73
Joe

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> On 184,006 kHz :
> Last night , nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/
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Mode change  2210 HRS

AMTOR FEC  - 85 HZ SHIFT

- USING MULTIPSK-



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> RTTY TEST BEACON
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I have put some screen grabs and a wav file of the HAARP EME signals on
G4JNT's website... see the link below.

http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/haarp

I tried posting the screengrabs here, but they were probably too large -
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David,   I suggest that you write into Ofcom after they have made their
announcement and establish the position on adding modes.  My guess that they
will be relaxed.  From a spectrum management perspective I would not want to
see too much of the spectrum taken up by modes that occupy too much
bandwidth, especially if they are not spectrally efficient.   As Ofcom will
probably refer any request for changes of mode to me I suggest that in
making the request that one is fairly  general on type, e.g. data modes but
specific on occupied bandwidth, e.g. 200Hz or 500Hz, that way one won't get
pinned down too much and be able to experiment a bit, which is what Ofcom
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73 John, G3WKL



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J.B. ,

I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and 
the offset angle is 78 degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
long  on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly ?

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
>I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
>an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
>3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
>feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
>The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
>a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
>cedar tree at ground level.
>
>The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
>QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
>off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
>and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
>is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
>inverted V.
>
>On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
>with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
>or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
>around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
>The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
>noise on the longwire.
>
>Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
>result, if that's the only option you've got!
>
>73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>Solar and wind powered
>Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>EN93dr
>
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Hi Graham, LF,

Downloaded the Multipsk 4.6, thanks for the lead on that.

Copying your ALE400 100%.

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!


> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>
>
>
> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
> system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful
>
>
>
> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
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>
> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
>
> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
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>
> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
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> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
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> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
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> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
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> Reports  welome , did it print ?
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>
> Tnx - G ..
>
>
>
> 




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A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of
the world.
Andy  G4JNT



On 18/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Slightly OT,
>   received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif
> engineer
> for the HAARP project:
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)"
>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM
> Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
>
>
> >
> > Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
> >
> > The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
> > and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted
> > a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
> > A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
> > echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
> >
> > HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
> > for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
> > wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
> > listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
> > following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
> > times are in Universal Time (UTC):
> >
> > HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
> >
> > Date
> >>From      To
> > Transmitted Frequency
> >
> > (UTC)
> > UTC
> > Hr:Min)
> > (MHz)
> >
> > 19 January 2008
> > 05:00
> > 06:00          6.7925
> >
> > 06:00
> > 07:00          7.4075
> >
> > 20 January 2008
> > 06:30
> > 07:30          6.7925
> >
> > 07:30
> > 08:30          7.4075
> >
> >
> > Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
> > to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
> > and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
> > meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
> > antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
> > transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
> > figure.
> >
> > (not avaialable)
> >
> > The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
> > five
> > second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
> > lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
> > repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
> > During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
> > but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
> > Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
> > carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
> > mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
> > operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.
> > However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
> > it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
> >
> > Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
> > to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
> > the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
> > seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
> > 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
> > The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period
> > after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
> > 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
> > a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
> > neither.
> >
> > We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
> > who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
> > transmitted
> > skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
> > your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
> > and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
> >
> > mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
> >
> > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
> >
> > [end]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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<div>A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of the world.</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Slightly OT,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif engineer<br>for the HAARP project:
<br>73 Warren K2ORS<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Floyd, Steve (US SSA)&quot;<br><br>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM<br>Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<br><br>
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,<br>&gt; and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted<br>&gt; a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
<br>&gt; A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar<br>&gt; echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
<br>&gt; for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short<br>&gt; wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by<br>&gt; listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The<br>&gt; following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
<br>&gt; times are in Universal Time (UTC):<br>&gt;<br>&gt; HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Date<br>&gt;&gt;From&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To<br>&gt; Transmitted Frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; (UTC)<br>&gt; UTC<br>&gt; Hr:Min)<br>&gt; (MHz)
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 19 January 2008<br>&gt; 05:00<br>&gt; 06:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 06:00<br>&gt; 07:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 20 January 2008<br>&gt; 06:30<br>&gt; 07:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 07:30
<br>&gt; 08:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible<br>&gt; to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver<br>&gt; and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
<br>&gt; meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other<br>&gt; antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the<br>&gt; transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
<br>&gt; figure.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; (not avaialable)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the<br>&gt; five<br>&gt; second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
<br>&gt; lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,<br>&gt; repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.<br>&gt; During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
<br>&gt; but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.<br>&gt; Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be<br>&gt; carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
<br>&gt; mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to<br>&gt; operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.<br>&gt; However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
<br>&gt; it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible<br>&gt; to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,<br>
&gt; the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two<br>&gt; seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between<br>&gt; 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.<br>&gt; The lunar echoes will occur during the three second &quot;quiet&quot; period
<br>&gt; after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until<br>&gt; 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on<br>&gt; a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
<br>&gt; neither.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs<br>&gt; who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the<br>&gt; transmitted<br>&gt; skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
<br>&gt; your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment<br>&gt; and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html">http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; [end]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________
<br>&gt; FCG mailing list<br>&gt; Send mail - <a href="mailto:FCG@kkn.net">FCG@kkn.net</a><br>&gt; Change/edit subscription info - <a href="http://www.kkn.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg">http://www.kkn.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg</a>
<br>&gt; FCG Web site - <a href="http://www.floridacontestgroup.org">www.floridacontestgroup.org</a><br>&gt; Member Map - <a href="http://www.frappr.com/floridacontestgroup">http://www.frappr.com/floridacontestgroup</a><br>
&gt; DXCluster - telnet to <a href="http://n4ser.dyndns.org">n4ser.dyndns.org</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; __________ NOD32 2806 (20080118) Information __________<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.eset.com/">http://www.eset.com/</a>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT
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John,
I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber
and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?
I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect. Of
course it might be due to some AGC effect in the Spec-
Lab program you are using.
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John,<br>I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber<br>and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising<br>the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show <br>up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030<br>
Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?<br>I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with<br>AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had<br>hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect. Of<br>
course it might be due to some AGC effect in the Spec-<br>Lab program you are using. <br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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OK, Luc, it is a nice snapshot. Thanks!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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Hi LF,

G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.

QRSS03 followed by CW ID.

73

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Hi John, Lowfers,

I tried to copy your Wolf20 transmissions between 6 and 8 but
there was only these few lines that hinted at what might have
been your signal:

t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:131.0 jm:702 q: -8.5 -8.1 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
t: 816 f:-0.039 pm:142.1 jm:702 q: -8.8 -8.0 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
t: 864 f:-0.039 pm:156.4 jm:702 q: -8.9 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t: 912 f:-0.039 pm:163.1 jm:702 q: -8.9 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t: 960 f:-0.039 pm:176.7 jm:702 q: -8.6 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t:1008 f:-0.039 pm:179.6 jm:702 q: -8.1 -9.3 XQOEP K30.1DUG  ?
t:1056 f:-0.039 pm:182.7 jm:702 q: -8.1 -9.2 XQOEP K30.1DUG  ?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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That was me testing in QRSS30.

Thanks for the picture.

Mike, G3XDV
===========



On 27 Jan 2008 at 12:13, Andrey RN3AGC wrote:

> Hello all.
> Capture last night  22.30z.
> Whose this beacon?
> Thank you.
> 73!





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John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> Hello Peter, LF,
>
> I'm hearing G3LDO calling CQ on 501.8 at 19:52z
>
> Can't seem to raise a response though. Perhaps my shorter antenna is a
> dB too short?
>   
Hi John,
I heard a signal but it was too weak to read. I will try again later

Regards

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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Fine John,



Yes, every little helps  !



That true, you can communicate over quite a range using 'fec' the navtext on 
518 prints well , but as far as I know the published service range is 50 
miles for a navtext station , that would fall in with 'our' observations of 
reliable, fade free,  communication range.



The problem sets in outside that range , I have seen good print from my psk 
signals outside the uk and good results from the Olivia system using 250/16 
, showing the transmission medium is 'stable' ie not 'phase disorientating' 
but notably displaying deep selective fading at carrier shifts over 100 hz , 
leading to recommending shifts of  85 hz and lower. The redundancy in the 
250/16 filling the gap's but still a low date rate, with no indication of 
actual % reception.



Unless you are experiencing qsb  depth and cycle period 'time' considerably 
less than 'we' have experienced, your still up against the final test , 
during qsb 'outage times' no signal = no copy,



The time intervals  have reduced attempted 'data qso's' to  near farce, with 
resolution periods of only  some 10/20 seconds in a 90 second period. An 
increase in power might slightly increase the 'print window' duration ,  but 
is still not proof against the deep fade's



Oddly , I would suspect that 'hf packett' would actually work quite well , 
where it not for the high bandwidth, conversely the short data burst would 
actually ensure the bulk of the traffic was transferred in 'one qsb window' 
, notably the pk232 tnc  will allow  the baudrate for 'hf packet'  to  be 
reduced to  50 , 50 is a bit slow , but 75 or 110 may allow the introduction 
of the 'missing' arq function , notably it uses a simple two tone fsk 
transmission mode as dose rtty and fec and as such my be amplified by 
non-linea means.



G ..









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> Graham,
>
>> Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no 
>> idea if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, 
>> that's unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works ,
>
> Perhaps with the higher ERP's over here we are getting better results, as 
> excellent winter-time copy with FEC has been fairly easy over long 
> distances.
>
> If suitable ARQ software materializes, we'll be happy to put it through 
> its paces. My T/R setup would certainly need some redesigning, first! 
> Clunk!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>
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> 




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On 4 Jan 2008 at 12:25, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:

> If we have a Javascript expert here: Any idea how a Javascript
> (embedded in an HTML document) can detect if all embedded graphics
> have been updated ? In that case, the "refresh" interval could be
> restarted after the previous refresh is finished.
>=20

Well just got round to looking at this grabber after reading all the=20
mails. Exactly the same here....

Firstly, note we are indeed talking about Javascript here, earlier=20
emails talked about Java. How many times do we have to tell people=20
that Javascript (common browser scripting language, sometimes called=20
EcmaScript) and Java (compiled programming language from Sun) are=20
completely different things and must never be confused. Mark's site=20
certainly contains no Java applets.....

The basic problem is that each grabber image is 1.2Mb in size (not=20
sure if that is typical of grabbers?). If Mark is using a normal ADSL=20
connection the upload speed of that seriously affects the issue.=20
Plain ADSL upload will be around 20kbytes/sec, ADSLMax around=20
40kbytes/second. For that reason it takes ages to upload a single=20
image - it takes around 30 seconds here on my 2Mb ADSL which is=20
correct for a 40kbyte/sec upload - or much longer if there are=20
several people connected. Bear in mind if you are on a monthly=20
restricted usage limit all of us trying your grabber will soon use up=20
your allowance, especially if people leave it on all the time!!

So I am not sure if changing the javascript refresh will help, you=20
really need to either reduce the size of the images by a big margin=20
or similarly increase the refresh time. Or maybe do not set a refresh=20
time but get users to do a refresh. Not sure how John GM4SLV does it,=20
maybe you should find out.

73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)

http://www.davesergeant.com


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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj




















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Joe,

jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
> The transmiter is still operating normally and
> will reamin in operation.
> 73
> Joe VO1NA

I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got 
some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?

73
Hartmut







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Hello David and all,

I just did a check with Argo on 600m.
The MRF beacon on 503.8xx is clearly visible here, see attached.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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Hello,
Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
See email i received from info@alexander.n.se

Regards
Marco
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Hi!

We are planing to have an education on the 23 januari. And may be on air
sometimes between 15.00 to 18.00 local time. Good luck.

Regards
Alexander

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st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
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Hi John
Pleased to hear from you again. I just wanted to let you know my 500
experiments would have ground to a halt had it not been for the
assistance you have given me in providing your Grabber. I can check
improvements I make to my station by checking my transmissions a few
minutes later on your grabber. My signals are easily identified as you
say by the display of frequency time and series of 5 sec key downs. It
is not important for me to read the CW ID I also send at normal speeds!

It does amaze me that with a distance of about 350 miles between us, I
am able to be clearly seen on your Grabber at most times of the day
although I never get answers to my CQ calls. So please John, get out
there and brave the horrible weather as soon as you can and get your
mast sorted out! Your contribution to my experiments is essential for
me to continue and is greatly appreciated.

Best regards

Mike, G3GMS
IO95GB




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> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 05 January 2008 10:45
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 grabbers
> 
> 
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:10:55 -0000
> "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW,
> which
> 
> > is the predominant mode on 500 khz.
> 
> My grabber isn't meant to be used to read CW, that's what your ears
> and
> brain are for!
> 
> The grabber is meant as a remote signal reporting tool. Admittedly it
> allows reading of QRSS3 CW visually, but that's more by accident than
> design. 
> 
> To use it to check your own signal all you need to do is key down, or
> send CW etc.... on a known frequency at a known time, (perhaps a
> series
> of long dashes?) and then check the grabber via the web. 
> 
> I admit that it makes identifying unknown "real" CW difficult, but
> you
> can't have everything! Most signals (especially CW beacons) are
> identifiable once you know the usual QRG and have heard the signal
> yourself to know what it sounds like - eg Finbar's callsign and long
> dash are easily ID'd visually once you know what they sound like.
> 
> 
> Imagine the speed it would have to scroll to show real CW and the
> number
> of web updates needed to keep it reasonably up to date for the remote
> viewer! 
> 
> At present mine fills a screen in about 4 minutes with a 300ms scroll
> speed, and uploads each screenful every 5 minutes.
> 
> This allows you (watching via the web) to see a reasonably continuous
> picture of activity with reasonable refresh rate. 
> 
> To scroll fast enough to read CW by eye would require much faster
> scrolling speed and to ensure nothing is missed by the viewer
> watching
> online the picture would need uploading to the web that much more
> often.
> 
> 
> I figured my setup balanced utility with bandwidth. 
> 
> I also archive each and every picture locally so it's possible to
> provide historical data for any day/time. If the screen was scrolling
> fast enough to read CW by eye I couldn't do this - too much data to
> store! Guess how much data I have stored already - 5 minute updates
> running continuously 24/7 since July......!!
> 
> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the 
> > others.
> 
> Mine does. There's a box at the bottom of the picture showing
> date/time
> etc of the capture and vertical marks for each minute (with the time
> marked at the foot of each minute). The time is accurate too - the PC
> is
> locked to NTP time.
> 
> 
> I hope my grabber is of use to people. One of the stated aims in my
> NoV
> application was to provide a remote station to be of assistance to
> other
> NoV holders - and while I have been unable to get on the air to have
> QSOs recently at least I've been able to make a contribution to the
> experiment! 
> 
> I figure I can at least make my station useful for something when I
> can't operate it myself.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 



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Warren's  comments about "setup filter" are not correct    What he is
actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes
place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip. (In fact, he actually
alludes to this right at the end).  It is possible to achieve overload in
the decimation process even though the arw A/D data is still within its
linear range.   However, this 'second stage' overload is not real, and is
caused by an overflow in the maths.  It can be prevented by adjustment of
the AD6620 gain without any resulting reduction in sensitivity.

I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in
place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent
with his measured figure.
The dynamic range of approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level
and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the
SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input which are switched in
automatically depending on the frequency selected.   He makes several
observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be
valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements
and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.

I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a
greater selection of front end filtering available.  This is clearly better,
but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs twice as much as an SDR-IQ,
you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth,
400kHz rather than 190kHz.

I've used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the
RA1792 that was once used regularly on LF.  There was never any sign of
overloading on the 'IQ, using both an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip
or the tuned 137kHz Tee.  Even with the input gain set at +10dB.   For
a medium cost SDR, its difficult to beat

 However, for* purely LF* use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn't
already got an SDR-IQ, I'd probably look at a customised Softrock type.
With a decent high order Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off
medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or
11th order LPF isn't difficult at this frequency) followed by a decent
bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.  Depending on where
you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you'll
get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.   The high Q antenns
used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low
frequency signals.   In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably
rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do
admirably.

Andy  G4JNT



On 24/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the
> strong signal performance to be wanting:
>
> http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers
>
>
> Hi Laurence
> Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,
>  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much
> cheaper).
>
> You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also
> down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability
> to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had
> the SDR RF section feeding your computer.
>
> This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try
> out.
>
> Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if
> you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that
> does just that... at a cost though!!
>
> One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic
> display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW
> ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it
> other decoder features are to follow.
>
> So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached
> and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable
> connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
>
> The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ
> connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth
> fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
>
> One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for
> later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the
> original recording.
>
> The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay
> you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all
> the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF
> section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
>
> Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA-->for
> up to date information.
>
> I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments
> are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
>
> I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every
> sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
>
> Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the
> free software.
>
> 73 petefmt
>
>
>
>
> *lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>* wrote:
>
> Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
> But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
> At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
> a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec.
> looks
> good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
> neccessesary
> to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or
> does it
> do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
> Any help gratefully received.
> 73 Laurie
>
>
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<div>Warren&#39;s &nbsp;comments about &quot;setup filter&quot; are not correct&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What he is actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip.&nbsp;(In fact, he actually alludes to this&nbsp;right at the end).&nbsp;&nbsp;It is possible to achieve overload in the decimation process even though the&nbsp;arw A/D data&nbsp;is still within its linear range.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, this &#39;second stage&#39; overload is not real, and&nbsp;is caused by&nbsp;an overflow in the maths.&nbsp;&nbsp;It can be prevented by adjustment of the AD6620 gain without any resulting&nbsp;reduction in sensitivity.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent with his measured figure.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>The dynamic range of&nbsp;approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input&nbsp;which are switched in automatically depending on the frequency selected.&nbsp;&nbsp; He makes several observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a greater&nbsp;selection of front end filtering available.&nbsp; This is clearly better, but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs&nbsp;twice as much as an SDR-IQ, you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth, 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;ve used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the RA1792&nbsp;that was once used&nbsp;regularly on LF.&nbsp; There was never any sign of overloading on the &#39;IQ, using both&nbsp;an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip or the tuned 137kHz Tee.&nbsp; Even with the input gain set at +10dB.&nbsp;&nbsp; For a&nbsp;medium cost&nbsp;SDR, its difficult to beat
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>However, for<strong> <u>purely LF</u></strong> use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn&#39;t already got an SDR-IQ, I&#39;d probably look at a customised&nbsp;Softrock type.&nbsp; With a decent high order&nbsp;Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or 11th order LPF isn&#39;t difficult at this frequency)&nbsp;followed by a decent bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.&nbsp; Depending on where you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you&#39;ll get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.&nbsp;&nbsp; The high Q antenns used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low frequency signals.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do admirably.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 24/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the strong signal performance to be wanting:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
</a></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">Peter March</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Hi Laurence</div>
<div>Whilst&nbsp;I don&#39;t have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso&#39;s in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK&#39;s web site for an explanation.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Follow the <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
<font color="#003399">Softrock-40 Interest Group </font></a>for up to date information.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto&#39;s comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Try <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flex-radio.com/" target="_blank">http://www.flex-radio.com/</a>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>73 petefmt&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><br><b><i>lawrence mayhead &lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com" target="_blank">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
<br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br></blockquote><br>
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Hello Roman and LFers!
Thanks for OK0EMW report and captures. Do you have QSL, I sent you in
the last month (Ty polucil QSL, kotorij ja pisal tebe v dekabre? Dumaju
uze est u tebja)?
73 to Moscow!

Lubos, OK2BVG

************************************************

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman .
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Subject: Re: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM

OK0EMW, DI2AM, SM6BHZ in Moscow last night

full report:
www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html

73!
Roman

PS- Why is my emails with attached files don't send via reflector? The=20
pix is not more up 9-17 kB


* "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> [Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:41:55=20
+0100]:
> Received on 80m dipole:
>
> DI2AM -104dBm
> OK0EMW - 117dBm
>
> Armchair (aural) copy.
>
> Slow QSB
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

--
Roman ..

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Hi Wolf and group.
The grabber does indeed use Spectrum Lab's http server, and I have already 
slowed the java refresh down to 5 seconds. I am watching the data 
throughput, and it seems that the system can cope with 2 simultaneous high 
refresh connections, but 3rd starts generating errors, including access 
violations on the server.
The use of the non java page reduces the bandwidth noticeably, but the 
refresh on that is only 30 sec. Still good enough to not miss anything.
I may put the java version out to 10 sec refresh later to see what happens.
Thanks for the comments
Regards
mark GM4ISM
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> Hello Mark and the group.
>
>
> Thanks for the nice feature - I guess the new grabber directly uses SL's 
> integrated HTTP server, right ?
>
> At the moment, it seems to suffer from a bandwidth limitation, because for 
> each user who visits the site, the server produces an own (up-to-date) 
> image. If the traffic remains that high, it may be necessary to use the 
> "older method" to upload the pictures to a commercially hosted website 
> periodically (like most other grabbers do). This would greatly the 
> bandwidth of your local internet connection (for the cost of -possibly- 
> useless uploads if no-one visits the grabber).
>
> Best regards, and HNY everyone,
>
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>
> Mark schrieb:
>>
>> Gents,
>> I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
>> website www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
>> The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use 
>> a ferrite rod active antenna.
>> Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz 
>> lots of birdies as normal here :<(
>>  Any comments welcomed..
>> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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Warm congrats to Peter G3LDO on his article in the Feb 2007 issue of QST!

73
Joe VO1NA



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Hi Peter, Rik, LFers,

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be pressed into service when frozen ground prevents driving
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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello!
> capture last night 01.16-05.55z.
> my loc:KO85SV
> 73

Hi Andrey,
thanks for the report and the pic. that makes 1791km "o" readable more 
than five
hours. I cant make out any fading. vy nice.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?

Hello Rik,

MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on MiniNEC, it 
does not properly model how the "real world" ground interacts with the near 
field. As far as I know, it uses the ground parameters for the far field 
calculations only. In other words, I don't think MMANA is able to make 
meaningful performance predictions for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.

I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different heights from 
1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and impedance figures were 
ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and sometimes the real part of the impedance 
was negative! :-D
Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to trust the 
radiation patterns either.

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Dear LF Group,

Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
being well, I'll leave it going for a few hours at least. Any reports would
be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear LF Group,

I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
2200utc.

Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well before
the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much about
yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
suggestions or comments?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear LF enthusiasts!

I'll work tonight (5-6 jan) on abt 137.700

The last night (4-5 jan) I had pleasant QSOs with DL2HRE, EW6GB and UW4WPF - all good "O" in 3s mode 

I saw also QRSS signals (abt M-T) XGJ and XKO in 60s mode from 2330z till 1.30z

73! Ed RU6LA


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Jim,

JT2, like WOLF, is heavily error-corrected, which seems to be a good 
thing for weak signal performance at this frequency. JASON is reasonably 
robust, but with no forward error correction, would be in a much lower 
category. Take a look at:
http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
for some thoughts on what Jay and I have been playing with over here. 
The bandwidths of some of the modes may strain the rules of propriety -- 
  your call.

If you want to try JT2, I can furnish some hints that worked well at the 
TX and RX ends in our tests.

John Andrews, W1TAG

> DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much about
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?


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Excellent Dmitry - that and the AQC trace makes me smile; one of the many ti=
mes that drift helps! I thought it would be very difficult here on the very=20=
noisy equator to receive anything at all but my country count on 137KHz has=20=
been higher here than in BY4.
=20
The actual signals are probably quite reasonable just the sig/noise to deal=20=
with. The ionosphere over Singapore at night makes for poor LF/HF listening=20=
and "most" nights with the R75 agc on fast the S Meter sits at a constant 20=
 to 30 over nine. Think of a bad day in Europe on 160m in the middle of a st=
orms summers night and quadruple it
=20
Im trying phasing the probes at the moment to see if I can null out some of=20=
the stuff in some directions but have only played for an hour or so. Trouble=
 is the the storms are basically all around me most night, or certainly look=
ing at the storm maps they appear to be.
=20
Over the next few weeks to make the best of the Northern Winter Ill  have th=
ree grabbers up - 2 on 137Khz  and 1 on 505Khz and switch receive sectors de=
pending whether Ill be looking for the Americas or Eu/Asia.
=20
PA0RDT probes continue to function 100% -=20
=20
Laurence=20
Steamy Singapore.35C 90%RH
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> Hi Laurence!> > 3dx01588.jpg - "O" it's my sygnal dfcw120 shift 0.2 Hz> >=20=
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Excellent Dmitry - that and the AQC trace makes me smile; one of the many ti=
mes that drift helps! I thought it would be very difficult here on the very=20=
noisy equator to receive anything at all but my country count on 137KHz has=20=
been&nbsp;higher here than in BY4.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The actual signals are probably quite reasonable just the sig/noise to deal=20=
with. The ionosphere over Singapore at night makes for poor LF/HF listening=20=
and "most" nights with the R75 agc on fast the S Meter sits at a constant 20=
 to 30 over nine. Think of a bad day in Europe on 160m in the middle of a st=
orms summers night and quadruple it<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im trying phasing the probes at the moment to see if I can null out some of=20=
the stuff in some directions&nbsp;but have only played for an hour or so. Tr=
ouble is the the storms are basically all around me most night, or certainly=
 looking at the storm maps they appear to be.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Over the next few weeks to make the best of the Northern Winter Ill&nbsp; ha=
ve three grabbers up - 2 on 137Khz &nbsp;and 1 on 505Khz and switch receive=20=
sectors depending whether Ill be looking for the Americas or Eu/Asia.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
PA0RDT probes continue to function 100% - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence <BR>
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&gt; Hi Laurence!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 3dx01588.jpg - "O" it's my sygnal dfcw120=
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Hello Hall ,

What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7

20:30 > 21:00

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW=20=
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LFers .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there a limit on the size to sent a pict=
ure too=20
the group ;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried two times to send the captured f=
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the signals from OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB=20
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gid-day  propagation can be so strange on lf....keep watch on lf when aroral=
 type things start up in new solar cycle...my first long distance contact wa=
s when solar flares rip 80mrtrs and hf to pieces...went down on 181.4 and ha=
m in far north kataia nz was 20 over nine..gave him call and got  5.9 9 cw r=
eport...expect the un expected on lf as i have in past 15years...15years ago=
 lf band here was full of power line carriers and we had to pick odd frequen=
cy like 181.4 to be clear up and down zl...but now they have ceased using th=
is system in hv grid lines...its real beut now clear from 130 to 190khz our=20=
kiwi lf band   bye george  73s zl3pn

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gid-day&nbsp; propagation can be so strange=
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lf....keep watch on lf when aroral type things start up in new solar cycle..=
.my=20
first long distance contact was when solar flares rip 80mrtrs and hf to=20
pieces...went down on 181.4 and ham in far north kataia nz was 20 over=20
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n lf=20
as i have in past 15years...15years ago lf band here was full of power line=20
carriers and we had to pick odd frequency like 181.4 to be clear up and down=
=20
zl...but now they have ceased using this system in hv grid lines...its real=20=
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now clear from 130 to 190khz our kiwi lf band&nbsp;&nbsp; bye george&nbsp; 7=
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Chaps

On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 is
on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit and
display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the
bottom before!)

73

-- 
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Chaps<br><br>On the subject of grabbers, I&#39;ve swapped the receivers over so the TS850 is on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit and display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the bottom before!)
<br><br>73<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hello Laurie & LF,


On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:

> John,
> I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber

Thanks!

> and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
> the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
> up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
> Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?

The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing 
caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly 
strong.

I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set 
correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the 
soundcard when I'm transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can 
wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio 
level to the soundcard doesn't "hit the rails".

The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the 
receivers aren't muted during transmit (I've measured the level of 
leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can't remember 
the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and 
let it cope on its own.

At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has 
rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I've not been 
active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC 
off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.


> I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
> AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
> hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.

As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off. 
I've used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked 
well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and 
attenuators in the past.


I'll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can 
see how it performs.

The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It's a pain at 
times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It's very 
capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various 
things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning) 
etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest 
steps being fractional Hz so it's not possible to tune in exact 
multiples of 1Hz. 

As a stable peice of test equipment it's prety good, as a "tune around 
the band looking for weak signals" it can be a pain. Until I started on 
500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn't 
understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc. 

For a "tune and forget" long term monitoring RX it's great.


Cheers,

John




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Dear Ha-Jo and all,

I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not solved.
I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the 500kHz antenna.
If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> dear Rick,
>
> I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
> "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
>> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in=20=
any
>> case.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
>> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
>> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
>> > Shetland grabber.
>> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
>> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
>> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
>> > and short transmissions.
>> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
>> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Hi Ko,
what a surprise seeing this big bottle.
hopefully you did find the reverse gear.
best wishes
Uwe/dj8wx





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I have also heard SAQ, around 15.20UTC, when I remember correctly, with
normal quality. I took the chance to compare two loops of different
sizes (but of course there were other stations nearby which also offered
themselves for such comparisons).

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"cricri" <cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr> schrieb:
> Hello
> In France we where at least two listeners , with good copy !
> 
> 73
> Xtian / F1VL
> 
> 
> Costas Krallis SV1XV a écrit :
> > At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
> >> See email i received from info@alexander.n.se
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Echos here on my 80 metre inverted vee.
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  HI LF,

  Do someone see something in Europe ??

  ON4AOL, Luc


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MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!



Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful



Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00



Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00

Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,



Tx setup   502.000 , usb

Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz



Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD



Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds



Reports  welome , did it print ?



Tnx - G ..




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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( vy good signal  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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See below.
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73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)" <steve.floyd@baesystems.com>

Subject: FW: HAARP-LWA Moon Bounce on YouTube
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:57:47 +0000
> Greetings All,
> 
>   For the moon bounce experiment we were running all 180 transmitters at 
> full power, carrier ON for 2 seconds, then OFF for 3 seconds, precisely timed 
> starting at the top of the hour, repeating the 5 second cycle every 5 seconds 
> for 1 hour at  6.7925 MHz, and then 1 hour at 7.4075 MHz.  We aimed the antenna 
> beam accurately at the moon, updating our aim position every 3 minutes to 
> continuously track the moon.
>   Our ERP at 6.7925 MHz and 7.4075 MHz would be approximately +94 dBW.
>   Expected total propagation delay time is 2.7 seconds.
>    
>   Please see the youtube posted video link below.  This is an excellent 
> reception report with very strong echo signals received in the middle of the 
> video post.  A very nice video indeed from this individual in Washington state.
>    
>   All 180 transmitters are operating extremely well and we are refining 
> our maintenance routines to further enhance the excellent reliability we are now 
> experiencing.
>    
>   Let me know what you think of the link below.
>    
>   Regards,
>   Steve
>   
> 
>           
>           Check this site: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5E2ntIxAsc
> 
>           About 15 minute video; in the latter half K7AGE begins 
> to show the total power vs time trace.  He also shows the transition from 6.7925 
> MHz to 7.4075 MHz.  A good video production.
> 
> 



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Hi Laurence,
I received UA4WPF - LO66pu on that QRG some days (evenings) ago.
Regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



Zitat von Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>:

>
> thanks Ted - unlikely you  as it was still in the late afternoon 
> before your sunset but hey its LF so who knows. Signal didnt last 
> that long and still UNID; likely to be more European/Asian. 
> Conditions still not that good here equatorially looking on LF but it 
> was a lot quieter QRN wise and saw more NDBs' around 510KHz than 
> normal.
>
> Cheers
> Laurence 9M/KL1X mobile E2 northbound towards Kuala Lumpur...avoiding 
> the monkeys on the road.
>
>
> From: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: 
> Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:20:07 -0600Subject: LF: RE: 137.7772
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW
>
> Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL
> www.kc3ol.com
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence 
> KL1XSent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PMTo: 
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>
> Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - 
> about 45 mins till sun up. Laurence 9V1 LF
>
>
>
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Hi Mark.
 
No luck here with the grabber and AOL.
 
text but no image at all just small box with red cross.  Usually no  problem 
here with Java etc.
 
Thanks
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 01/01/2008 17:20:38 GMT Standard Time,  
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Hi  Mark,

Just tried the grabber a few times & each time only get a  small (top) part 
of the grab, then it jumps back to top again to start  scan again.

I see about 1 to 2 inches of top part of the grab at about  5 to 10 second 
periods.

Hope this report helps your  problems.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp







   

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  Mark,<BR><BR>Just tried the grabber a few times &amp; each time only get a=
=20
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=20
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  problems.<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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Hello Mark and the group.


Thanks for the nice feature - I guess the new grabber directly uses SL's 
integrated HTTP server, right ?

At the moment, it seems to suffer from a bandwidth limitation, because 
for each user who visits the site, the server produces an own 
(up-to-date) image. If the traffic remains that high, it may be 
necessary to use the "older method" to upload the pictures to a 
commercially hosted website periodically (like most other grabbers do). 
This would greatly the bandwidth of your local internet connection (for 
the cost of -possibly- useless uploads if no-one visits the grabber).

Best regards, and HNY everyone,

  Wolf DL4YHF .

Mark schrieb:
>
> Gents,
> I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of 
> my website www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
> The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will 
> use a ferrite rod active antenna.
> Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 
> KHz lots of birdies as normal here :<(
>  
> Any comments welcomed..
> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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Gents, Initial experiments with restricted bandwidth showed this effect, and=
 when I changed the refresh  rate to 5 sec on the java version, it improved.=
 so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh to 10 seconds, and see what happ=
ens. (users already connected may have to refresh the page)
The non java version may perform better for those with slower connection spe=
eds (there is a link to it under the picture on the main page.)
I am logging the requests and errors generated, none has actually stopped th=
e system this end
Thanks to all, for looking in, and especially to Wolfgang for the excellent=20=
tool that is spectrum laboratory.=20
regards
Mark GM4ISM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:45 PM
  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Hi ,

  The same problem as told by Garry G4WGT . A few lines and then the page re=
starts=20
  First mail from me . Just made the mini whip from PA0RDT and try to catch=20=
something on 500 kHz

  HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc  J021AF



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, Initial experiments with restricted=20
bandwidth showed this effect, and when I changed the refresh&nbsp; rate to 5=
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on the java version, it improved. so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh=
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10 seconds, and see what happens. (users already connected may have to refre=
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the page)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The non java version may perform better for=
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with slower connection speeds (there is a link to it under the picture on th=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am logging the requests and errors genera=
ted,=20
none has actually stopped the system this end</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all, for looking in, and especial=
ly to=20
Wolfgang </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the excellent tool that is s=
pectrum=20
laboratory. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora.b=
e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:4=
5=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi ,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The same problem as told by Garry&nbsp;G4=
WGT . A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First mail from me . Just made the mini w=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc&nbsp; J021AF</FONT></DI=
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A lot of activity on 137kHz the past nights, Updated my website with
screenshots of DK4U, EW6GB, F6BIR, G3XIZ, PA3CPM, RA9CUA, UA4WPF and
WD2XGJ.

Screenhots can be seen here:
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Hello all!
HNY
> What is transmission !
> 
> 20:00 > 20:30 on ~137.776/137.777
> 
EW6GB is calling UA4WPF in QRSS10
73 de Andrej EW6GB


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Hello John!
I am sorry to listen, that you have problems as you write below. I
monitored  your grabber every day, its informations ware very useful for
me, so grabber is missing now.

I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
available soon.

73 and GL in 2008!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**********************************************************************

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Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


Hello LF group,

Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.

Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
damage.

Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
(not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
4 levels from 2m up to 11m.

This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.

The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
abates...


Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
key) in the near future.

Cheers,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hello Peter, LF,

I'm hearing G3LDO calling CQ on 501.8 at 19:52z

Can't seem to raise a response though. Perhaps my shorter antenna is a
dB too short?

Cheers,


John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:

>Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
>See email i received from info@alexander.n.se

Any reception reports?

73 Costas SV1XV




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dear Rick,

I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in any
> case.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
> 
> 
> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
> > Shetland grabber.
> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
> > and short transmissions.
> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rik
> >
> > ON7YD - OR7T
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Hi All,

Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,=20

Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??

Running tx locked to  off air standard ,=20

intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??

tnx - Graham .=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running WOLF 10 Beacon on&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=
 ,=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports if possible, aslo frequency ?=20
possible&nbsp; 2 hz LF ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running tx locked to&nbsp; off air standard=
 ,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>intrested if fequency </FONT><FONT face=3DA=
rial   size=3D2>has 'slow cyclic drif'&nbsp; ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tnx - Graham . </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Jim,

Sorry, nothing copied here.

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Hello James and hall ,

Good copy now !

t: 96 f: 0.293 pm:0.013 jm:324 q: 10.3  9.2 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks  for  the reception reports from last night. I will be runing the
> WOLF 20 beacon again tonight on 503.800kHz from about 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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George,

ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher 
frequency) that change the density of the medium. A complete 
different mechanism than electromagnetic waves.
If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and 
eventually boil. Nothing to be stunned about.
Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage 
is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.
Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to 
microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very 
expensive to build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:
>hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has 
>got a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water 
>and after a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye 
>ultra sonics...It has stunned professors and science standards...he 
>wont let on much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got 
>a feeling the highfreqency audio electric current is heating the 
>water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn


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George,<br><br>
ultrasonic waves are &quot;shockwaves&quot; (just like sound, only at
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different mechanism than electromagnetic waves.<br>
If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and
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that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.<br>
Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as &quot;save
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vibrations.<br><br>
73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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In a recent message, John W Gould <jwgould@iee.org> wrote ...
>There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
>patiently!

John -
In the event that the expiry dates of the current NoV permits will be 
extended, what will be the position as regards extending the permitted 
modes?

My present NoV only permits "A1A, CW". This is what I applied for, 
thinking that that would be all that would be allowed on 501-504. As 
PSK, RTTY, etc is being used on the band and I should like to know what 
the procedure is for adding data modes to an existing NoV.  Will a 
resubmission be necessary?

73

David G4DMP
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:43:34 -0000
"mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Turn the speed up boys 

No, for the reasons explained in a previous posting to the list.

Personally speaking, my grabber isn't intended to allow remote stations
to follow CW QSOs by eye via the internet, it is there to provide a
visual snapshot of band activity and to act as a remote pair of ears
for other stations. 

The refresh and scrolling speed is chosen to allow this.


If others want faster scrolling to read CW by eye then they are of
course free to use their computers, receivers, antennas, broadband
connection and web-space as they see fit.

Mal, if  you think such a facility would benefit 500 users then I
suggest you set one up yourself. As in all things, if you want
something doing you're always better to do it yourself.

I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.


 




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Hi all
The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which is
the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but also
a bit slow.
Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the others.
73 de Mal/G3KEV


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Hi Laurence
  Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).
   
  You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
   
  This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.
   
  Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!
   
  One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
   
  So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
   
  The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
   
  One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. 
   
  The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
   
  Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group for up to date information.
   
  I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
   
  I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
   
  Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.
   
  73 petefmt 
   
   
  

lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
  Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks 
good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or does it 
do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
Any help gratefully received.
73 Laurie


       
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<DIV>Hi Laurence</DIV>  <DIV>Whilst&nbsp;I don't have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall
 speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first
 hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Follow the <A href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=#003399>Softrock-40 Interest Group </FONT></A>for up to date information.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Try <A   href="http://www.flex-radio.com/">http://www.flex-radio.com/</A>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>73 petefmt&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<BR>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<BR>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<BR>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <BR>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<BR>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <BR>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <BR>do this itself? and if so can I get
 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<BR>Any help gratefully received.<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon last night. At least 2 stations
were able to decode it correctly, so at least I know it is set up right! I
will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode,
503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reception reports from last night. I will be running the
beacon again tonight from 2200utc, WOLF 20 mode on 503.800kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Nicolas,

thank you very much for your report. The frequency of DI2BO is supposed to b=
e 505.015 kHz, I am not sure how accuracte this is, perhaps somebody who can=
 accurately measure this can confirm.

The current ERP is around 50 mW with 1 Ampere antenna current into an 8 m ve=
rtical antenna.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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  Hello Geri,strong tonight,could you confirm your frequency and the ERP pow=
er ?


  Best 73 F4DTL in JN18FP

  RX: IC 7400 Icom
  Ant: mini whip PA0RDT


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<DIV>thank you very much for your report. The frequency of DI2BO is supposed=
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How very odd ,

Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at the 
bottom of the screen,

May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you have 
the horizontal gain set too high ?

G ..


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> Hi all
> The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which is
> the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but 
> also
> a bit slow.
> Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the others.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
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Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


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BEACON QRT  0130 HRS


----- Original Message ----- 
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> RUNNING  WOLF BEACON - MODE 10-
> 503.500 .
> Will run till past midnight,
> Intrested on freqiency and stability
> Tnx - Graham
>
> G0NBD
>
> IO83LK
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> 




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Hi Wolf,

Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 60 
secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.

My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb but 
up & down loads are much slower than that.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT



----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gary,
>
> You wrote:
>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>
> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
> the bottom of the screen).
> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
> rate, there was not a single error.
>
> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>
> 73,
>  Wolf .
>
>
> 




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Mal,

Resize your browser for SpecLab grabbers.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Yes its there if I scroll down, not as convenient ast ARGO.
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:29 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 grabbers
>
>
>> How very odd ,
>>
>> Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at
> the
>> bottom of the screen,
>>
>> May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you
> have
>> the horizontal gain set too high ?
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:10 PM
>> Subject: LF: 500 grabbers
>>
>>
>> > Hi all
>> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which
> is
>> > the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but
>> > also
>> > a bit slow.
>> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
> others.
>> > 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > 11:29
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
> 




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Hello Gary and LFers!
I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
receiver will be ON.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hi LF,

G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.

QRSS03 followed by CW ID.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi all,
I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
is there a vote against it?
Regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv




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Cracking signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
No sign of MRF, not seen often here at this hour, and never very strong.
will try to get the main antenna working this weekend WX permitting
Regards
Mark GM4ISM
grabber www.dc2light.co.uk//LF_MF.htm




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> Hi LF,
>
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
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> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
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> 73
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> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Hi Luc,

I believe it is about 30 Kb total (picture & text), I always keep my 
pictures below 10 Kb & I have no problem.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW 
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc






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Mike,

it started on 15 januari 2008.
All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the 
given restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special 
permit required.
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep 
this allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so 
you need a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. 
Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Rik and group,
>
>Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will start?
>Maybe I have missed it.
>
>Best regards
>
>Mike
>
>GW4HXO.
>_________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium
>
>Dear all,
>
>today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can
>use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,
>so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
>I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>


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Mike,<br><br>
it started on 15 januari 2008.<br>
All holders of a &quot;full licence&quot; can use the new allocation
within the given restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or
special permit required.<br>
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this
allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.<br>
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you
need a valid Belgian &quot;full licence&quot; to operate this band.
Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.<br><br>
73, Rik ON7YD<br><br>
At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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<font face="Courier New, Courier">Hello Rik and group,<br>
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Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will
start?<br>
Maybe I have missed it.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Best regards<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Mike<br>
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Dear all,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we
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use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all
speeds,&nbsp; <br>
so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br>
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Warren and all,

fascinating video...

By the way, has anyone tried to extract a longterm Doppler spectrum from the lunar reflections across a number of TX-RX-periods? The 
width of the libration spread should be on the order of 0.05 to 0.1 Hz, resolvable inside a 0.2 Hz Nyquist window without aliasing. 
However I have no idea of what spreading contribution from passing through the ionosphere at a high angle should be expected. The 
experiment would require a very stable receiver, unless we could use the direct signal as phase reference - which we probably can't 
because of much wider oblique reflection Doppler.

Anyway the bottom line is that I'd be really interested in looking at a few minutes of recorded audio.

Sorry for being off topic - just couldn't resist asking.

Regards,
Markus, DF6NM


>>           Check this site:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5E2ntIxAsc
>>



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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The WOLF software is at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html .
WOLF is really aimed at extreme weak-signal DX, and has worked well on
136kHz, so might be a possibility for trans-atlantic operation on 500kHz.

I left the beacon running overnight, partly to see if the frequency
stability of IC718 + transverter was adequate, which it was. I modified the
EER transverter design to use the frequency reference from the IC718, in
order to eliminate the differential drift between two separate oscillators.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Ok John,

Well , thats the problem , the psk31 mode works very well on this band , but=
=20
needs a linea system , the little racal interstage drive amp I use is=20
running in class -A- bit ott , but im reluctant to re-bias the amp. less it=20
falls over ... ! (if i could find a second one , then no proble hihi)

Thanks on the report, I'm running the 'wolf' system again, at -12db drive=20
level lower than the psk/rtty as the amp runs a bit hot on 100 p/c ducty=20
cycle ..

I copied some of your cw b4, but i have seen a much bigger signal from you=20
in the past , its a bit like trying to  here the station mesages at=20
watford-gap with a train going past !

G ..


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G, Chris & LF,

psk31 seems to work quite nicely, better than the RTTY!


 CQ CQZQ=C2=B4E...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
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The CW is hard going too at times!


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Lubos, Marco,

thanks again for the reports. Yes, Marco, I am still running 1 Ampere into t=
he 8 m vertical, so about 50 mW ERP. Yesterday evening the conditions seemed=
 to be excellent, I was able to observe DI2BO on the GM4SLV-grabber with a v=
ery strong signal together with DI2AM and OK0EMW.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO



  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Cc: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:19 AM
  Subject: RE: [500] DI2BO


  Hello,
  last night here also a good copy of DI2BO.=20
  Geri, i think you still running a little bit more power?

  vy73
  Marco
  DD7PC

  JN49ax



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  It is a nice signal, isn=B4t it!

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos, Marco,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks again for the reports. Yes, Marco, I=
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still running 1 Ampere into the 8 m vertical, so about 50 mW ERP. Yesterday=20
evening the conditions seemed to be excellent, I was able to observe DI2BO o=
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the GM4SLV-grabber with a very strong signal together with DI2AM and=20
OK0EMW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
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  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de     hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:=
19=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [500] DI2BO</DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>last night here also a good copy of DI2BO=
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PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>Geri, i think you still running a little=20=
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Hello all on LF ,

I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
to see the captures in the file with :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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HI Rik...

I use a 2000' and 1000' unterminated longwires that simply lay on the ground
and are used specifically for 500khz and down. I have been very impressed
with their performance on NDB's etc. Beacons ranging in the 5000-7000 km
range are heard on a nightly basis. Just wondering what your software say's
for these as far as expected performance.

Vern - VE1VDM 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:58
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire

J.B. ,

I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
offset angle is 78 degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be long
on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly ?

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
>I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on an existing 
>fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
>3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3 feet off the 
>ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
>The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is a stainless 
>steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a cedar tree at ground level.
>
>The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my QTH favours 
>Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
>off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander and Shanwick in 
>the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire is several S units stronger 
>and MUCH quieter than my 80 M inverted V.
>
>On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions with better 
>signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip or untuned delta loop.  
>The same holds true for listening around the broadcast LW & MW bands or 
>NDB chasing.
>The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the noise on the 
>longwire.
>
>Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising result, if 
>that's the only option you've got!
>
>73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>Solar and wind powered
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Hi LF.

good cpy of XGJ and XKO this morning.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good cpy of XGJ and XKO this morning.</FONT=
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BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
(upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
> >
>But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall 
>a time when in the United States of America top band was not 
>available in many areas.
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>73
>John F5VLF/G3PAI


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On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:12:33AM -0500, Jay Rusgrove wrote:
> Argo plot here:
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Nice!

FWIW, this is all I can see in JO61ua:

http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/haarp.png

It's only the direct signal, the moon is below the horizon here
already.

73,
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Graham, LF,

I'm hearing your CW QSO with G3XIZ! I think this might be the first
time I've heard you on CW on 500. RST 439 with deep QSB down to nil.

Great to hear, conditions don't seem too good, Chris fades away from
579 to nil at times too.

Cheers,

John
-- 
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Hi ,

The same problem as told by Garry G4WGT . A few lines and then the page rest=
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Hi LF!

Full report here:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/30jan08.html

1) Who is it on DFCW-10 136.691 kHz?
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/136.7_30_0008.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/136.7_30_0013.jpg

2) DI2AM was change a freq?
At the morning 30 jan:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/505_3_0001.jpg
At the morning 31 jan:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/505.1_3_0002.jpg
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

UA4WPF  ( qrs 60 20:00=>21:15 )

DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )

DF6NM     ( good signal )

Nil on american continent

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.

Hi gang,

I use the old fashioned way....

Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).

The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts at
the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's webspace
www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new account at
www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm


The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
archive directory on the Linux machine.

5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....


Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.

 

> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
>

 
 ditto....

Cheers,

John




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Roelof wrote:
>
> I have been testing some real barbed wire fences of 1500 metre long, which 
> showed a very narrow beamwidth in one direction.
>
> If you have the opportunity, there are many usuable fences out there which 
> can be put to good use as a reception antenna. You might be in for a nice 
> surprise.
>

But be careful, things can go wrong! One MW BC Dxer's story:
http://www.skywaves.info/index.php?entityType=HTML&id=55 



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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:30:08 -0000
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rik, John,
> 
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange
> callsign threw me at first!
> 
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/
> & ON/G QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
> 
> 

Thanks Dave,Rik & LF

I just came back into the shack and heard the end of your own QSO with
Rik too.

It's great to stir up some new activity. Rik's announcement of
impending operation got me out into the darkness with a torch to
re-tune the ATU. If you've seen the picture of my QTH in this month's
RadCom you can appreciate just how dark it can be here at night!

Cheers,

John


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On 18 Jan 2008 at 20:53, Andy Talbot wrote:

> A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this
> part of the world. Andy  G4JNT
> 

Thanks for answering my own question Andy...

The 7407.5 frequency is probably unusable because of broadcast QRM - 
there is a strong one at the moment on 7400. 6792.5 is probably OK 
though. But guess it won't be worth listening over here.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Jim,

You have a link to  the software ?

G ..


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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
> being well, I'll leave it going for a few hours at least. Any reports 
> would
> be welcome.
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Congratulations!

Also a very welcome good argument for the ongoing negotiations in other
countries.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> Dear all,
>
> today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can
> use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,
> so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
> I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
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Mark,

I am getting 1 full page from about 10 downloads & about 1 in 5 from the 
non-JAVA page.

Getting better.

Thanks for your efforts Mark.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
website www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a 
ferrite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots 
of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR


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Hi Ray, Finbar, LF,

I didn't catch what you were testing but I got this screen grab just at 
2028utc showing the tests you carried out for pos 1, 2, 3 & 4.

You can plainly see the signal strength increase, I don't know if it helps 
but there it is !!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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At present on 500 khz.
G3KEV
G3XIZ
G3ZWH all on NORMAL CW and in QSO mode plus GI4DPE beacon mode.
All the German stns S9 around 505 khz in various  cw qrs modes
de Mal/G3KEV


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Haarp is being heard better now on 74075.... at least one way is, but not 
both... hi hi

About S5-S6

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
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k2ors@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Back to the AGC issues, Rob Sherwood of Sherwood Engineering has published a slide presentation on how poorly ALL DSP
> receivers perform under QRN conditions due to the DSP handling of AGC: 

I don't know which receivers he tested, but the problem he reported is simply caused by a too fast attack time of the 
AGC, which reacts to narrow spikes and pulses, lowering unnecessarily the gain of the receiver and causing a sort of 
pumping effect. In software that can be fixed quite easily. That the manufacturers of blazoned DSP radios haven't done 
it, that is a different discourse...

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Yes Captain Mannering  (dads army)did u hear the echos
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Whilst I appreciate your attachment to the Great Man, please desist from
> spamming this group with off topic "politics"....there are more 
> appropriate
> plaves for that.
>
> Alan G3NYK
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> hope u can read the call signs of the kiwi hams on the polar crossing so
> long ago...ted gawn zl2us.....peter mugrew  zl2sp..and niel sanford
> zl2aai....peter mulgrew zl2sp was killed on a fatal plane down at the
> antartic...he was a great friend of sir  ed...mrs mulgrew was to later 
> marry
> sir ed hillary...eds  1st wife and daughter was killed in a plane crash 
> near
> everest...george  zl3pn  73s  kia-ora
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> 1958 trans antartic sir ed hillary  our KING 001
>
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Thanks Uwe - Ive seen WPF in Shanghai and traces here in Singapore before so=
 I know he can make it -
=20
Im just back from Kuala Lumpur (KL) West Malaysia and driving back over the=20=
past 4 hours the  weather has got worse and worse and its virtually dark her=
e two hours before nominated sunset. The   LF band is very very noizy but it=
s amazing how it can quiet down in just an hour or two so heres fingers cros=
sed.
=20
Ill have both 137.775-7815 and circa 136.318 KHz open up from my sundown wit=
h a third receiver on 505Khz if I can figure out three computer channels/rec=
eivers.
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:09:27 +0100> From: uwe-jannsen@ve=
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 > Hi Laurence,> I received UA4WPF - LO66pu on that QRG some days (evenings)=
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Thanks Uwe - Ive seen WPF in Shanghai and traces here in Singapore before so=
 I know he can make it -<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im just back from&nbsp;Kuala Lumpur (KL) West Malaysia and driving back over=
 the&nbsp;past 4 hours the &nbsp;weather has got worse and worse&nbsp;and it=
s virtually dark here two hours before nominated sunset.&nbsp;The&nbsp;&nbsp=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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n with a third receiver on 505Khz&nbsp;if I can figure out three computer ch=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:09:27 +0100<BR>&gt; Fr=
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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello Uwe,
> capture 21.10z.
> qth-loc: KO85sv
> 73

thanks Andrey
73



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Willem,
     Thank you for the capture!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Capture wd2xgj

  In jo22mb

  Hny

  73s wim pa3ego

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Willem,</FONT></DIV>
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I have a couple here and they are used as general receivers +24, and proven=20=
hard to beat in most envirions. Not as good as the TS870 on 137, but there a=
gain nothing has beaten it signal handling wise inc the 850. I have one R75=20=
with a TXCO and one without - not much difference at LF given the divide by.=
=20
=20
I dont think I would sell them if thats a recommendation - filtering and gen=
eral signal handling are good to very good unless your real close to somethi=
ng with V/m; then a bit of preselection sorts the issues. Filter selection i=
s slightly complicated but thats just me being slow at times.
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Laurence


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Hi all,
Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off. Attenuator.=20=
2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem good. Room for 2 opt=
ional filters.=20
I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any comments.
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73's
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I have a couple here and they are&nbsp;used as general receivers&nbsp;+24, a=
nd proven hard to beat in most envirions. Not as good as the TS870 on 137, b=
ut there again nothing has beaten it signal handling wise inc the 850. I hav=
e one R75&nbsp;with a TXCO and one without - not much difference at LF given=
 the divide by. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I dont think I would sell them if thats a recommendation - filtering and gen=
eral signal handling are good to very good unless your real close to somethi=
ng with V/m; then a bit of preselection sorts the issues. Filter selection i=
s slightly complicated but thats just me being slow at times.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-=
R75?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It's specs read ok to my way of looking, A=
GC fast, slow or off. Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequen=
cy range seem good. Room for 2 optional filters. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I don't see a spec for frequency stability=
 - does anyone have any comments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
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Argo plot here:

http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Jay Rusgrove W1VD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment


> On 18 Jan 2008 at 20:53, Andy Talbot wrote:
> 
> > A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this
> > part of the world. Andy  G4JNT
> > 
> 
> Thanks for answering my own question Andy...
> 
> The 7407.5 frequency is probably unusable because of broadcast QRM - 
> there is a strong one at the moment on 7400. 6792.5 is probably OK 
> though. But guess it won't be worth listening over here.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 


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Zitat von Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear Uwe, LF's
> Attached, there is my FIRST ever received radioamateur station on 137=20
> khz .  It happend to be dj8wx
> capture was made around 0030 UTC , 15th of  January on 136.319 khz - =20
> soft set in qrss60 mode.
> ( "1.5"  of WX  i.e X  followed by W and X )  :)
> i have terrible qrm in my location ( city downtown)  the loop antenna=20
> was INSIDE  the room (3rd floor),  around 1 m from the window
> series tuned, followed by an impedance raising transformer, then 5m=20
> of  50 ohm cable,  2-stage ( BF245 FET, BC107 )
> amplifier yielding abt 32 dB at 137 khz and finally ft857d trx. i've=20
> found in my notes jo43sv as the location of  dj8wx
> 137 khz  transmitter so this makes 706 km                            =20
>                                           73 de (very happy)=20
> peter,sq7mpj    /jo91rs/
>

Hi Peter,
congratulations. tks for the pic. seeing WX somewhat stronger than the QRM.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv


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Hi Warren
some info here that may help in finding suitable manual etc

http://www.realhamradio.com/GPS_Z3816A_Receiver.htm

73
dave
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
webpage
www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org


K2ORS wrote:
> 
> Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
> HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon 
> has nothing!
>  
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>  
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LF

21.30(ish) UTC, 503.1kHz:

Just listening to OR7T (419-559) in QSO with G3XVL (NIL-419) on 503.1kHz. Fi=
rst
ever copy of G3XVL here and Rik is a lot louder in the peaks than last night=
.

Good to hear the band alive!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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thanks Andrey and Jean-Pierre.

you are right, Andrey. I investigated the screenshot agn and could find
the first dash of the P and the complet W, but vy weak.

where is UA4WPF located? his name is Anatolj I believe.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx


Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello Uwe.
> Probably it UA4WPF.
> G - the termination P, U - the beginning F.
> Forgive for bad english.
> 73!
>
>> Hello all.
>> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
>> QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
>> who was it?
>> regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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John,



>From the test's ive carried out , the best mode would be a  simple 'arq' 
system



Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no idea 
if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, that's 
unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works , full 
break-in cw is about as good as it gets , some of the multi tone systems 
give a longer 'clean period'  but under qso conditions , require long tx 
periods to  ensure you have covered at least one 'qsb' cycle



With the noise and deep qsb outage's I would think the best mode would be 
'amtor on prozac' with a prf of a few seconds , like a case clock



If only some one could write the source code  :  just replacing the 
conventional 'fsk' keying with 'psk' . the psk giving about 50 % better 
accuracy than similar shift 'fsk' and mimic the virtually bullet proof , 
protocol of  sitor/amto but simply calm it down a bit , so  it doesn't need 
a 'tnc' to  control the  tx/rx windows (bit of a oxymoron that as its 
windows that causes the timing problems)  ... thanks bill ..



This simple narrow mode would simply work at 30 bauds or so and basically 
sit pinging the other end during the outages till it responded , 'link up' = 
game on .  In a response to  a post on the 'multipsk' user site, some one 
did repy that they where working on a 'psk-arq' system, but I never managed 
to  follow it up ..





Rgds



Graham



G0NBD








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> As many of you know, Jay Rusgrove and I have been running tests on a 
> variety of keyboard modes for use in the 500 kHz area. Our focus has been 
> on modes that work well for casual QSO's and possibly emergency 
> communication. Resistance to noise and fading has been a prime 
> consideration.
>
> While this is a work in progress, I have posted an article at:
> http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
>
> Comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks very much to all who have 
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>
> John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3
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Thanks John,

Will resend it in.

73

Dom

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Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application.  

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

g3wkl@btinternet.com






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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
73 WarrenK2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX
>
> WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
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> 



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Hello all.
I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
who was it?
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





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Dear all,

today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  
use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  
so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.

I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.

73, Rik  ON7YD


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Hello Johan!
Many thanks for information about signal of  beacon OK0EMW in SM. This
picture is nice and clear. Which program do you use?
73 and GL!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*********************************************************
-----Original Message-----
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Received on 80m dipole:

DI2AM -104dBm
OK0EMW - 117dBm

Armchair (aural) copy.

Slow QSB

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Zitat von "Roman ." <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:

> Hi Uwe and LF!
>
> DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
> full report in the final of web-page:
> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
>
> 73!
> RW3ADB, Roman
>
>
>

Hi Roman,
thanks for the direct sent mails. sri I didnt answer them immediately.
yes, I know Andy/RN3AGC vy well.
thanks for the up to date screenshots from DJ8WX and for the old
ones from DI2BE.
DI2BE will be off the air the next months. Im now staying on
137kHz - back to the roots!
your question conc languages: sri, I dont speak the russian language.
but the meaning of the sentences in your and Andys websites are clear.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





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Thanks for the explanation John. I am a little puzzled why Mark 
wanted to update every few seconds for something used to display 3 
sec dot QRSS or slower where it takes several minutes for the trace 
to disappear off the screen.... Your 5 minute update seems far more 
sensible. And you are right, doing it from a server at home on ADSL 
brings the ADSL upload speed into the equation as well, something 
many people forget. Remember that 512kbits/s (NOT Mbits...) 
corresponds to only 40kBYTES/s and that is dead slow for large 
files....

I see now that Mark has reduced his file size and display size which 
has largely solved the issue. But I am puzzled when he said the old 
file was 600kB, what I downloaded was most certainly 1.2Mb!!

Sorry to hear about your antennas John, hope you soon sort it out. I 
worked MM0XAU on 40m on your island yesterday and he didn't mention 
storms, only lousy HF conditions..

73 Dave G3YMC

On 5 Jan 2008 at 10:16, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
> 
> > Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.
> 
> Hi gang,
> 
> I use the old fashioned way....
> 
> Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
> into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).
> 
> The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
> screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts
> at the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's
> webspace www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new
> account at www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm
> 
> 
> The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
> archive directory on the Linux machine.
> 
> 5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....
> 
> 
> Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
> the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
> external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
> >
> 
> 
>  ditto....
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com



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Zitat von Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>:

> Hi Uwe,
>
>> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
>> is there a vote against it?
>> Regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>

OK Hartmut,
but the vote came vy late!
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Hello Hartmut and Uwe,

Similar thought here.. why not simply join the crowd in the "european DX 
transmit window" at the lower edge of the band ?

Anyway, not a big problem here since I don't have Hartmut's ears ... ;-)

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF JO42FD

Hartmut Wolff schrieb:
> Hi Uwe,
>
>   
>> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
>> is there a vote against it?
>> Regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>>     
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi Vernon this might tend to prove that the simulation is not modelling the
travelling wave effect that gives the long low wire is directional
preferences (??)
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Rick that is surprising as I find them very directional and that the 1000'
on the whole
> has worked better than the 2000' but that could just be propagation. The
1000' is N/S
> and the 2000' is E/W.
>
> Anything heard on the N/S is usually nulled on the E/W and vice versa.
>
> Vern
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>



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Andy Talbot wrote:
> What a fantastic range of RF products,!  And all without the nausea of 
> long delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added on.
>  
> Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)
>  
> Andy  G4JNT

  Yes, my friend Franco Rota is doing a fine job since many years, making available at reasonable cost RF components 
that would otherwise be hard to find or expensive, and often subject to minimum-quantity orders.

  Only recently he could be convinced to put on Internet his catalog... before you had to go to the various ham fairs in 
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 > Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)

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Turn the speed up boys for the majority, who are cw operators. Look at the
OHIO grabber in NDB cw mode, it works well for the cw man.
I seldom use grabbers because I usually get replies to my cq's from EU xband
3533/7033 khz and via the reflector.
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Rik,

 

Many thanks for the information.  Let's hope our Ofcom make up their minds
soon.

 

73

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

  _____  

Mike,

it started on 15 januari 2008.
All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the given
restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this
allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you need
a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. Operating 600m as
ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.

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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> 
> Winrad supports Perseus, and it works very well. It can be used
> instead of the supplied Perseus software, however, Winrad does
> not have an "AGC OFF" button (yet) but since...
> 
> ...Alberto di Bene wrote:
>  > in case it is not implemented, just ask the author of the program...
> 
> this problem can be considered already solved.
> 
> Hi hi... :-)
> 
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

  True, Winrad does not have an AGC OFF button, I never felt the need, as in Winrad there is the possibility to adjust 
the knee where the AGC starts doing its job. If you keep that slider at its very minimum (meaning that the amplification 
of weak signals is minimal) you can obtain a working similar (not identical of course) to having the AGC OFF.

But the cost of adding the OFF function is mainly in finding the right place on the screen where to place that button...:-)

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi, Rik, John,

Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange callsign
threw me at first!

Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/ & ON/G
QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 29 January 2008 20:08
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Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 503kHz


On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
>
> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Thanks for the QSO Rik!

Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
500kHz!

Congratulations and good luck on MF,

John
Gm4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland





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Mark, LF,

Thanks for your report, I can see my signal quite strong on your grabber.

Good Luck with the main antenna, it has been predicted for rain & blustery 
winds in my area this weekend, I hope it is better for you.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Cracking signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
> No sign of MRF, not seen often here at this hour, and never very strong.
> will try to get the main antenna working this weekend WX permitting
> Regards
> Mark GM4ISM
> grabber www.dc2light.co.uk//LF_MF.htm




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Armchair (aural) copy.

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Hi Rik isn't it more likely to be the case that these low antennas are much
more dependent on ground conditions, which are not modelled very well (or at
all) in any of the simulators. In many cases the main reason they reject the
"interference" for higher frequencies is the relatively deeper skin depth at
LF/MF ??

This is good enough reason to follow JB and try it (if you have the facility
of "open range" available!!) but I guess they would work so well over salt
marshes !!

Alan G3NYK

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Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire


> J.B. ,
>
> I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
> But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and
> the offset angle is 78 degrees.
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD




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Hi,

Please does anyone know if the the 500kHz experiment will be extended beyond
the end of Feb 2008?

I specifically mean this:

The UK Amateur Radio Special Research Permit allows operation in the band
501-504kHz with a maximum erp of 100mW. It is available on application to UK
Advanced Licence holders and is valid initially for one year until 29th
February 2008.

My NoV application has not been answered, maybe I was too late?

I have had fun cross band 80m to 500khz with many of the Nov holders but
never managed to become qrv on 500khz myself.

dombaines @ yahoo.com is non-work email.

73

Dom
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Heard G3ZWH 419 calling CQ on 502.0 18.10UTC. First copy here.

Any chance for QSX 80m?


73's

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Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks
good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
neccessesary
to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or does
it
do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
Any help gratefully received.
73 Laurie

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Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks
<br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it 
<br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br> 

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hello Rick, LF.

just cpy OR7T 549 deep qsb in qso SM6BHZ 579, any time ago cpy on 502KHz 
GM4SLV 439 also deep qsb.
congrats Rick! i hope for x-band qso next time.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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Dear Ha-Jo and all,

I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not solved.
I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the 500kHz antenna.
If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> dear Rick,
>
> I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
> "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
>> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in 
>> any
>> case.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
>> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
>> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
>> > Shetland grabber.
>> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
>> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
>> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
>> > and short transmissions.
>> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
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>> >
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>>
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>
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>



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It seems the mail system did not accept my mail from yesterday eve.

Dear Rik,
          your signal was mostly audible here in JN59NO, when you made the Q=
SO=B4s with G3XVL and GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is 95=B5V. He=
ard G3XVL for a short time.
I called you on 3533kHz  for several times. Hw abt QSX?
73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF

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Dave,

G3ZWH is peaking 559 now.
No other signals ...
I keep CQ-ing once in a while.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> Hi, Rik, John,
>
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange callsi=
gn
> threw me at first!
>
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/ & ON/=
G
> QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 29 January 2008 20:08
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>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
> Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
>>
>> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
>> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
>> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> Thanks for the QSO Rik!
>
> Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
> from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
> 500kHz!
>
> Congratulations and good luck on MF,
>
> John
> Gm4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>



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On 31/01/2008 at 12:18 John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

>That 477 is an interesting report!
>
>"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
>near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."
>
>Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

Last weekennd in between DIYing, I had a quick listen on 40 m and went back=20=
to a G6 two-letter call who was calling CQ Contest.  I signed Foxtrot 5 Vict=
or Lima Foxtrot.  He came back to me:

"G9VLF you are 59 etc"

With a call of that antiquity, he should have known that G9 calls are not is=
sued to the ordinary radio amateur.  Also, as he got my prefix wrong I was n=
ot 59.

73
John F5VLF




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Hello John,

Yes that can appear nonjudicious like frequency, but it is the only=20
place of the band or the noise floor is with -165dBm at the connection=20
of the antenna ! ( between 00:00 and 03:00 UTC ) Thank you to have=20
specified the real frequency .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

The captures of the night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/


John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Joe,
>
> Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is=20
> 184.006 kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when=20
> Europe 1 on 183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz=20
> tone during that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
>> to about 184.005 kHz.  Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

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Hello John,<br>
<br>
Yes that can appear nonjudicious like frequency, but it is the only
place of the band or the noise floor is with -165dBm at the connection
of the antenna ! ( between 00:00 and 03:00 UTC ) Thank you to have
specified the real frequency . <br>
<br>
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj<br>
<br>
The captures of the night are at :<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/">http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/V01NA/</a> <br>
<br>
<br>
John Andrews a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
<blockquote cite="mid478CA0B5.4070802@w1tag.com" type="cite">Joe,
  <br>
  <br>
Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is 184.006
kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when Europe 1 on
183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz tone during
that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!
  <br>
  <br>
John Andrews, W1TAG
  <br>
  <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jcraig@mun.ca">jcraig@mun.ca</a> wrote:
  <br>
  <blockquote type="cite">Dear Group,
    <br>
    <br>
The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
    <br>
to about 184.005 kHz.&nbsp; Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
    <br>
  </blockquote>
  <br>
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</blockquote>
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 Hi all, Does anybody on the group know of a parts supplier that can
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

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73 J-P f1afj
















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Tnx Hartmut ,
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
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>> What is transmission !
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Pat,

the power difference between UK and Belgium is due to the conversion 
rate Pound / Euro ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 00:59 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>
>Perhaps this might be be a "violation of our human rights"?
>
>As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be told"
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>Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !
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Pat,<br><br>
the power difference between UK and Belgium is due to the conversion rate
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73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
At 00:59 16/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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Dear LF Group,

I will be running  the beacon again tonight - WOLF 20 mode, 503.800kHz, from
about 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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In a message dated 22/01/2008 14:00:59 GMT Standard Time,  
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be writes:

I  simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the  expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal  pattern is almost omnidirectional and 
the offset angle is 78  degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to  be 
long  on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly  ?




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If you accept the commonly held definition that a long wire should be  at 
least a wavelength long at the desired frequency that implies that at 500 KHz  it 
should be 600 metres, which is approximately 1960 feet.
 
On that basis 1200 feet is going to be a bit short to be strictly  considered 
a "long wire" on 500 KHz, but I certainly wouldn't mind having that  much 
room to play with:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR



   

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Thanks for the facility John. I hope to finally see my signal on your
grabber when you get back on.

Good luck!

Dave G3YXM.

On 05/01/2008, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
> Hello LF group,
>
> Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
> QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
> busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
>
> Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
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Thanks for the facility John. I hope to finally see my signal on your grabber when you get back on.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>Dave G3YXM.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 05/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV
</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Hello LF group,<br><br>Althought I&#39;ve been very inactive over the last month or so (my last<br>QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I&#39;ve kept the grabber running. I&#39;ve been<br>busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
<br><br>Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna<br>damage.<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hello Joe ,
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RTTY TEST BEACON  

502 KHZ / 45.45 BAUD / 85 HZ SHIFT 

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John,

Thanks for the capture of the beacon signals on 184.006 kHz and the
frequency report.  This is gratifying.

Thanks to J-P for monitoring.

73
Joe


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Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj



















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Hello Jean-Pierre,

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Hello Jim and the group

Stronger local noise here this evening, on my unmatched short attic 
dipole connected to the TS 850.
Your signal is absolutely invisible on the spectrogram, but decodable in 
WOLF 20 after a few minutes:


2008-01-28 22:04:10 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 1 -w 0.0000 -ut
22:04:22 f:-0.593 a:-1.3 dp: 40.5 ci: 2 cj:206 0UEYFX8*5MK*EZD ?
22:04:34 f:-0.803 a:-1.2 dp: 38.7 ci: 9 cj:298 9KL3H29IGEV3203 ?
22:04:58 f: 0.431 a: 1.0 dp: 36.2 ci: 5 cj:446 AWNAR5LDZKC1WPV ?
22:05:46 f:-0.332 pm:0.142 jm:915 q:-13.4 -6.3 FBC3TWX0GL/H K0 -
22:06:34 f: 0.137 pm:0.247 jm: 19 q: -5.7 -5.9 VDEFFBJUKOIFLGE -
22:07:22 f: 0.137 pm:0.267 jm: 19 q: -4.4 -6.0 6SZ???KADVWIBBX -
22:08:10 f: 0.137 pm:0.414 jm: 19 q: -3.2 -5.4 M0BMU 503.8KHZ  -

Good luck,
  Wolf DL4YHF .


James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the Wolf beacon again tonight... 503.800kHz, Wolf 20 mode,
> from about 2200utc. Any reports welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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Hi all,
Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off.
Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem
good. Room for 2 optional filters.=20
I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any
comments.
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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of
receivers for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
and Warren for suggestions=20
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I
want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is
very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only
33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments
Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these
are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my
computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do
the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
So I am still looking
73 Laurie.


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Hello  Warren and  LFers ,

Vy good propagation , last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( Visible until 10:30 utc 11:30 loc !.......  )

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

The captures of night are with this URL :
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GE Mal and LFers!
 I saw your signal. The second stations was G3xxx, I captured its
signal, but i am not sure in call.
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Dear Walter,

our 500 kHz access is for amateur stations, not experimental stations  
as in Germany.
So we can make QSO's.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Walter Staubach <walter.staubach@fen-net.de>:

> Dear Rik,
>           that is very good news in the new year. Congratulations.   
> Are you allowed for QSO`s or beaconing only?
> Let us hope that in other countries the OM`s start negotiations with  
>  their authorities soon.
> My recommendation about antennas: Take the simple vertical at the   
> beginning and later on the loop as well. Then you can compare both.
> 73   Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
>
>
>



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On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:

>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>=20
But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall a time w=
hen in the United States of America top band was not available in many areas=
.

73=20
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Many thanks John,
That does re-assure me since I have decided to get a 7030 to replace my
Racal1792.
I was put off by the menu problems, but since I want it mainly for QRSS work
on fixed
frequencies I think it will be OK.
73 Laurie

On 28/01/2008, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello Laurie & LF,
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:
>
> > John,
> > I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber
>
> Thanks!
>
> > and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
> > the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
> > up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
> > Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?
>
> The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing
> caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly
> strong.
>
> I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set
> correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the
> soundcard when I'm transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can
> wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio
> level to the soundcard doesn't "hit the rails".
>
> The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the
> receivers aren't muted during transmit (I've measured the level of
> leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can't remember
> the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and
> let it cope on its own.
>
> At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has
> rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I've not been
> active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC
> off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.
>
>
> > I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
> > AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
> > hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.
>
> As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off.
> I've used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked
> well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and
> attenuators in the past.
>
>
> I'll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can
> see how it performs.
>
> The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It's a pain at
> times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It's very
> capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various
> things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning)
> etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest
> steps being fractional Hz so it's not possible to tune in exact
> multiples of 1Hz.
>
> As a stable peice of test equipment it's prety good, as a "tune around
> the band looking for weak signals" it can be a pain. Until I started on
> 500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn't
> understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc.
>
> For a "tune and forget" long term monitoring RX it's great.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>

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Many thanks John,<br>That does re-assure me since I have decided to get a 7030 to replace my Racal1792.<br>I was put off by the menu problems, but since I want it mainly for QRSS work on fixed<br>frequencies I think it will be OK. <br>
73 Laurie<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 28/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Hello Laurie &amp; LF,<br><br><br>On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:<br><br>&gt; John,<br>&gt; I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>&gt; and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising<br>
&gt; the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show<br>&gt; up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030<br>&gt; Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?<br><br>The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing<br>
caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly<br>strong.<br><br>I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set<br>correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the<br>
soundcard when I&#39;m transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can<br>wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio<br>level to the soundcard doesn&#39;t &quot;hit the rails&quot;.<br><br>The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the<br>
receivers aren&#39;t muted during transmit (I&#39;ve measured the level of<br>leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can&#39;t remember<br>the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and<br>
let it cope on its own.<br><br>At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has<br>rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I&#39;ve not been<br>active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC<br>
off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.<br><br><br>&gt; I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with<br>&gt; AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had<br>&gt; hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.<br>
<br>As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off.<br>I&#39;ve used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked<br>well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and<br>
attenuators in the past.<br><br><br>I&#39;ll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can<br>see how it performs.<br><br>The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It&#39;s a pain at<br>
times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It&#39;s very<br>capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various<br>things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning)<br>
etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest<br>steps being fractional Hz so it&#39;s not possible to tune in exact<br>multiples of 1Hz.<br><br>As a stable peice of test equipment it&#39;s prety good, as a &quot;tune around<br>
the band looking for weak signals&quot; it can be a pain. Until I started on<br>500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn&#39;t<br>understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc.<br>
<br>For a &quot;tune and forget&quot; long term monitoring RX it&#39;s great.<br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello  all on LF ,

Happy New Year 2008

Last night i copy  :

CT1DRP
G3AQC
G3XDV
DF6NM
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DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

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Warren and all,

Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=
=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler effect.

Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse, but=
 always visibles.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



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  perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively some=20=
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  73 Warren K2ORS


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Hello Uwe.
Probably it UA4WPF.
G - the termination P, U - the beginning F.
Forgive for bad english.
73!

> Hello all.
> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
> QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
> who was it?
> regards
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I doubt I shall be able to attend, but some others may be interested.

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Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my webs=
ite www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a f=
errite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots=
 of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..=20
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have just put a grabber on line, access i=
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the MF / LF page of my website <A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk">www.d=
c2light.co.uk</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The system is using my main antenna, but wh=
en i can=20
sort it out will use&nbsp;a ferrite rod active antenna.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Receiver is&nbsp;a softrock lite on 500KHz.=
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Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots of birdies as normal here=20
:&lt;(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any comments welcomed.. </FONT></DIV>
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G, Chris & LF,

psk31 seems to work quite nicely, better than the RTTY!


 CQ CQZQ=C2=B4E...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd =20
 CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd =20
 CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk=20

The CW is hard going too at times!


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Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in any
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Good luck!

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Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> Dear all,
>
> I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
> With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
> guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
> Shetland grabber.
> I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
> The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
> switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
> and short transmissions.
> I will be using my short call: OR7T
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> 73,
>
> Rik
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> ON7YD - OR7T
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Hi LF-ers

Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
I heard it very deep in the noise=20

73's de ON4AOL , Luc
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:26 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Lubos
  GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
  73 Mal/G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
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    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
    Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


    Hallo Finbar and LFers!

    I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

    =20

    Have a nice weekend!

    =20

    Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE=20=
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happy newyear in CW ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73's de ON4AOL , Luc</FONT></DIV>
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  </DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [500]=20
GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 6:=
06=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon<=
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DSection1>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN       style=3D"FO=
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN       style=3D"FO=
NT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can see your signal quite soon=20
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN       style=3D"FO=
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I Hope they show they show on television in Great Britain the state funeral=20=
of our SIR Ed Hillary so my son and english grandaughter can see it live..Be=
cause of royal snub i would like the Queens chain of public free land which=20=
surrounds every lake,river, sea coast,steam and beach be renamed the Hillary=
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Ear Ear  wots all this then ....

 With 5 watts and CW only , a quick word for the late Mr S M is most  approp=
riate=20

http://www.thegoonshow.net/songs/im_walking_backwards_for_christmas.asp

G ..=20

Ps The Kent coast ?  looks like your in range !=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G4gvw@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium


  Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?

  Perhaps this might be be a "violation of our human rights"?

  As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be told"


  Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !


   =20

  73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx
  Qth near Felixstowe, UK



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<DIV>Ear Ear&nbsp; wots all this then ....</DIV>
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most &nbsp;appropriate </DIV>
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<DIV>G .. </DIV>
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<DIV>Ps The Kent coast&nbsp;? &nbsp;looks like your in range ! </DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium=
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  <DIV>Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Perhaps this might be be a&nbsp;"violation of our human rights"?</DIV=
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  <DIV>As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be=20
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  <DIV>Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !</DIV>
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nice capture,but who?
henny pa3cpm
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Dear all,

DI2AM peaking 599 ... increadible
A pitty the DI's cannot make QSO's.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Hi Nick,

The R75 is pretty much the receiver of choice in the LF 
community in the US.  Works well out of the box, and 
excellent value for money.

         Cheers,

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com


Nick Mclean (SYD) wrote:
> Hi all,
> Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?


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Ok Wolf,

Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection of=
=20
the soundcard !

All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card ,=20
while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb cable  !

Rgds

Graham ..


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> Hi Graham,
>
>
>> I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see a=20
>> way of selecting a soundcard ?
>> may be ive missed a setup box ?
>>
> Simply, there isn't one. But if you have more than one soundcard in/near=20
> your PC, you can declare one of them to be the "default" soundcard (from=20
> windows point of view). The WOLF GUI will use it then, because -up to now-=
=20
> it always uses the "default" soundcard.
>
> It must be somewhere in the windows system control panel.
> If not, I can add a selection box in the program, but I fear it will be=20
> too late for the recent transmission.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
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Hallo Luc and LFers!
OK, my beacom OK0EMW is just running on 505,060kHz. I am pleased, you
captured its signal. Many thanks for your information!
 
73 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS 
 
*********************************************
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Luc van Achte
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:10 PM
To: LF
Subject: LF: Captured at 500kHz
 
Hi LF-ers
 
Both signals are audible in J021af
 
I believe i decoded DI2AM and OK0EMW 
 
RX  TS440S     
Ant :  home made mini whip
Soft  : SpecLab 
 
73's de ON4AOL ,Luc

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=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>OK, my beacom OK0EMW is=
 just running on
505,060kHz. I am pleased, you captured its signal. Many thanks for your
information!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73 <o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS <=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
**********************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bo=
ld'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Luc van Achte<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 01, 20=
08
9:10 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Captured at 500k=
Hz</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi LF-ers</span></font=
><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Both signals are audib=
le in J021af</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I believe i decoded DI=
2AM and OK0EMW
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>RX&nbsp;
TS440S&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ant :&nbsp; home made=20=
mini whip</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Soft&nbsp; : SpecLab <=
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73's de ON4AOL ,Luc</s=
pan></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Now hearing them initiating a QSO on 502.5kHz.

G3ZWH has improved to a 519 and GW4HXO is also 519. It seems I can hear them
both better than they hear eachother, something I have noticed many times
before with UK-UK QSO's.

Just getting better...

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD
http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt


Quoting Wolfgang B=FCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de>:

> Now heard (in regular CW):
>
> G3ZWH 502.x kHz 439
> GW4HXO 502.55 kHz 339..559, deep QSB, clg cq
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> 73, Wolf
>
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>
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.. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local QRM.

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF

(still hoping for xband.. )


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hi Marco, LF

DJ6GT(137.70) was in QSO with DK6NI(137.71)

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scholz, Marco " <marco.scholz@citi.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: LF: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning


Hello,
I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
Freq. ~137.690KHz
I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
calling?

Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
to hear DK8ND. 

Thanks
Vy73

Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de

 



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Lawrence,

I'm wondering , was the RA1792, not suited to  the 'job' or is it that is fa=
iled, your looking to  replace it ? ,


Have you run the self test ? , I use the exciter MA1723, which by the look o=
f it is very much  the same , Ive had quite a few problems with component's,=
 but to  date, have managed to  get it back  working with the help of the 'b=
ite' a dvm and rf voltmeter=20

In terms of price and performance , it may even be feasable to buy a working=
 set from e-bay and sell the original as non working, especially if the lcd'=
s are in good condition  , you may only end up =A3100  down , a lot less tha=
n the set's youve listed ?

G ..=20




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:51 PM
  Subject: LF: LF Receiver


  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers=20=
for LF/QRSS.
  and my problems with my 1792.
  Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, an=
d Warren for suggestions=20
  re alternative Rx's.
  The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
  So I have been looking around!
  I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050=
, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to=
 take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
  The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
  The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very=20=
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.=
 I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I g=
uess its coming to the end of its production.
  So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are=
 digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer soun=
d card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis=
 ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
  So I am still looking
  73 Laurie.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subjec=
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r=20
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Jean-Pierre,

> Hello Hall ,
> What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7
20:30 >> 21:00
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

Andrej, EW6GB

73
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Hello John!
That is very good information, I am pleased!
I am going to see on your grabber immediately.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************************************


-----Original Message-----
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Hello LF,

I've restored my TX antenna (temporarily at 8m height instead of the
previous 11m) with the same top loading as previous.

The grabber looks normal again, with signals from G3XIZ, G0MRF,
DI2AM and OK2EMW

The antenna is okay for transmit too so I might be able to have a few
QSOs with it, despite the lower vertical height, since the QRN level
seems a lot lower than when I was last active back in November.

Cheers,
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hi J-P,

Thnaks for monitoring.  At least we know from John's
trace that signals are being radiated.

Lets hope for good luck!
73
Joe VO1NA


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> On 184,006 kHz :
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> The captures of night are at :
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Hello LF!

Got the slightly improved 80m TX antenna tuned up today and I'm ready to wor=
k
X-band 80/600m again.

There seems to be an ongoing contest on 80m CW with lots of OH-participants.=
 I
heard G3KEV calling CQ QSX 3533kHz on 502.5 around 14.40UTC but I have no
chance to get trough on that QSX QRG due to the contest (There seems to be s=
ome
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73's

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Hi, Graham, LF,

I can't quite remember which one it was between the Halcyon and the
Quartzlock 2A (as we had both at work and had to retire one type) but one of
these standards suffers from the phase modulation on BBC Radio 4 (the other
one is OK). Averaged over more than 1s, the frequency stability of the R4
carrier is not compromised, but I think it upsets the PLLs in the off air
standard. This might be the reason for the cyclic frequency drift.

73, Mike G7AQA.

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Ok Alan,

This is a quartzlock, model 2A . I get a good signal on 198, im using it at
the moment , be intresting to  se if anyone detects any change in frequency,
but of course the signal is derived from the 800 hz tone from the sound
card, so that may drift as well , been running 6 hours so  should be warmed
up

Using the 'triggering scope' method of comparing frequency's  i can observe
a change about a fixed point , so ive set for the mid point , which looks to
be correct , todate im not totally sure what level of 'change' im observing
.. hihi

G ..


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> Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
> It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
> quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
> measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 
> 10^10
> and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
> direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
> 1250a....very nice.
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:59 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>
>
>> Ok Alan,
>>
>> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
>> ppl that is .. not the bbc
>> ... but by how much , im not sure
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:05 AM
>> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>>
>>
>> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> > Alan G3NYK
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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>> > Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
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>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>> >
>> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>> >
>> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>> >
>> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>> >
>> > tnx - Graham .
>> >
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Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at all !

I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point and
click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've just
never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
enough for QRSS as it is.

AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and is
always at fixed gain.

Andy  G4JNT


On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
> This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
> receiver.
> This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the
> receivers
> I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these
> receivers
> is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass
> band
> will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could
> quite
> disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> filter so that
> signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> de-sensitisation, and this
> could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> Or do I look for another R1792
>
> 73 Laurie G3AQC
>



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<div>Which are the receivers you have encountered that <u>do</u> suffer this problem of non-switchable AGC?&nbsp; It doesn&#39;t sound like a very healthy trend at all !</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;d&nbsp;use an SDR-IQ for LF these days.&nbsp;In fact I use&nbsp;one for most listening/monitorinf now.&nbsp;Its better, more adaptable and just generally nicer to use than the RA1792.&nbsp; And infinitley better to tune with point and click on the waterfall display.&nbsp; The only thing it suffers from is not having a&nbsp;clock locked to a master reference.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Needs 
66.667MHz and I&#39;ve just never got round to&nbsp;making a locked&nbsp;clock&nbsp;yet.&nbsp; But its probably stable enough for QRSS as it is.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>AGC&nbsp;can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume constant.&nbsp;&nbsp; The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and is always at&nbsp;fixed gain.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">lawrence mayhead</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement receiver.
<br>This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques <br>for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the receivers <br>I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp; facility.This means that if one of these receivers 
<br>is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass band <br>will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could quite<br>disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter so that 
<br>signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisation, and this <br>could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?<br>Or do I look for another R1792&nbsp; &nbsp; 
<br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Dear LF Group,

The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using WOLF 20
mode, "by popular request". Frequency is 503.800 as before - any reports
welcome, or comparison with the previous WOLF 10 sigs. The idea is that the
faster mode may be beneficial for short-duration peaks in signal strength
occuring on 500kHz.

Thanks for  the reports from last night. The results of my own monitoring of
the signal is that it starts off about 0.1Hz high, with the frequency
falling quickly at first then levelling out to very close to the nominal
(+/-0.01Hz) after an hour or so. This is due to using the TCXO inside the
IC718 as the frequency reference - the rig gets quite warm even though only
providing a few watts for the transverter, so takes a while to reach thermal
equilibrium. But in any case, this should be no problem for the WOLF
decoder.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: "John Andrews" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: M0BMU WOLF beacon


> John,
>
> > I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you
> > think that was happening at your end?
>
> yes, that was happening at my end.



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thanks Ted - unlikely you  as it was still in the late afternoon before your=
 sunset but hey its LF so who knows. Signal didnt last that long and still U=
NID; likely to be more European/Asian. Conditions still not that good here e=
quatorially looking on LF but it was a lot quieter QRN wise and saw more NDB=
s' around 510KHz than normal.
=20
Cheers
Laurence 9M/KL1X mobile E2 northbound towards Kuala Lumpur...avoiding the mo=
nkeys on the road.


From: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Thu, 24 J=
an 2008 16:20:07 -0600Subject: LF: RE: 137.7772






I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW
=20
Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL
www.kc3ol.com
=20
=20


From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PMT=
o: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137.7772
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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45 mi=
ns till sun up. Laurence 9V1 LF



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thanks Ted - unlikely&nbsp;you&nbsp; as it was still in the late afternoon b=
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ong and still UNID; likely to be more European/Asian. Conditions still not t=
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nd saw more NDBs'&nbsp;around 510KHz than normal.<BR>
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Cheers<BR>
Laurence 9M/KL1X mobile E2 northbound towards Kuala Lumpur...avoiding the mo=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri=
','sans-serif'">I am transmitting on that freq.&nbsp; my ID is XYW</SPAN></P=
>
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','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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','sans-serif'">Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri=
','sans-serif'"><A href=3D"http://www.kc3ol.com/" target=3D_blank>www.kc3ol.=
com</A></SPAN></P>
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','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tah=
oma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMI=
LY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner=
-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Laurence KL1X<BR><B>Sent:=
</B> Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PM<BR><B>To:</B> rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: 137.7772</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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ZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Looks like Im getting some wea=
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Thanks for all the reports.

I will beacon again tonight. QRSS60. 136.31875kHz. Start on each hour 
from 1900 to 0900.

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Dear Hans-Albrecht,

Nice to meet you again (I think last time was in Friedrichshafen..) !
I saw weak traces of a caller after my qso with Ed 'LA, but due to the 
horrible FSK-QRM from EFR's transmitter, I couldn't decode it, thought 
it was someone calling RU6LA, so went QRT then.
So hope to catch you soon again (from DK4U alias DF0WD) .

73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF .


Hans-Albrecht Haffa schrieb:
> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
>
> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
>
> Hans-Albrecht
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
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Hello J-P and LF group,

The timing of the N in your capture coincided with what was transmitted.
It is amazing that you can receive such a weak signal.  Congrats again!

Many thanks
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> On 184,006 kHz :
> 2 partial traces , 1 "N" at 02:20 (good)
> however the band was not very clean this night
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/
>
> 73 J-P f1afj
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WE2XGR/3 will beacon in WOLF(20) tonight from 2300 to 0200 UTC (6-9 PM 
EST) on 508.500 kHz.

Jay and I will have a QSO on that frequency at 0200 UTC in some other 
mode to be announced.

John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3


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Peter,

Can you please provide some details of the Softrock mod by Jim M0BMU coverin=
g the two LF bands.

Thanks.

I am using a Softrock lite here on 500 Khz using a 4096 Khz Crystal and can=20=
confirm sensitivity is good,
however a better input filter maybe needed in some locations as there is som=
e breakthrough from strong Local Broadcast stations (Radio Bristol) mixing w=
ith the 2nd harmonic of the LO.  Ie 1548 - (2 x 512 ) =3D 524 Khz =3D +12 Kh=
z
In the Softrock the image is audible when tuned to 500 Khz (-12 Khz)

73s

Jan G0BBL


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter March=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver


  Hi Laurie
  It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. It's much bett=
er than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!
  I have been using a Tony Parks' KB9YIG Soft Rock SDR RX (about =A320 kit f=
rom WS) for some time now.  I use the excellent free SDR application softwar=
e from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with Cesco's  HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL) VAC (Virtu=
al Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTE's Multpsk 4.2 decod=
er software.  Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only t=
he one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay.=20=
I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity=20=
and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and=
 96kHz using a high quality int /ext  Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are o=
nly about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon freq=
uencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellen=
t mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they ar=
e not standard in the Soft rock kit range.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can you please&nbsp;provide some details of=
 the=20
Softrock&nbsp;mod by Jim M0BMU&nbsp;covering the two LF bands.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;am using&nbsp;a Softrock lite here o=
n 500=20
Khz&nbsp;using a 4096 Khz Crystal and can confirm sensitivity=20
is&nbsp;good,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>however a bet</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>ter=20
input filter maybe&nbsp;needed in some locations&nbsp;as there is some=20
breakthrough from&nbsp;strong Local Broadcast stations (Radio=20
Bristol)&nbsp;mixing with&nbsp;the 2nd harmonic of the LO.&nbsp; Ie&nbsp;154=
8 -=20
(2 x 512 ) =3D&nbsp;524&nbsp;Khz =3D +12 Khz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the Softrock the image&nbsp;is audible&n=
bsp;when=20
tuned to&nbsp;500 Khz (-12 Khz)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jan G0BBL</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">Peter March=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4=
:04=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: LF Receiver</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=3DCalibri=
 size=3D3>Hi=20
  Laurie</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=3DCalibri=
 size=3D3>It=20
  is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. It=92s much bette=
r than=20
  using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF=20
  qso!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=3DCalibri=
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  have been using a </FONT><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black;=
 LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Tony=20
  Parks=92 KB9YIG </SPAN><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D3>Soft Rock SDR RX (abo=
ut =A320 kit=20
  from WS) for some time now.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN=
>I use=20
  the excellent free SDR application software from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 wi=
th=20
  </FONT><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY:=
 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cesco=92s=20
  </SPAN><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3DCalibri><SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun=
: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL) VAC (Virtual=20
  Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTE=92s Multpsk 4.2 deco=
der=20
  software.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soft Rock does us=
e the=20
  IQ sound card input but this way only the one card is needed. The results=20=
are=20
  incredible for such a small out lay. I think this setup outperforms most=20
  conventional RX in terms of selectivity and ease of use over a limited=20
  spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and 96kHz using a high quality i=
nt=20
  /ext<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soundcard. 136 and 500=
 kHz=20
  bands are only about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and U=
S=20
  beacon frequencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has don=
e an=20
  excellent mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands=20=
as=20
  they are not standard in the Soft rock kit=20
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 John,

Ive amended the link on  uk500khz  'grabber page' to  show >

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk:80/grabber.htm

Tnx

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:37:29 +0100
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

>
> I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
> available soon.
>
>


Thanks for your kind words Lubos!

I have put up a short, untuned, vertical of approx 5m height and am
feeding this to the RX that runs the grabber. The signals are not as
strong as usual, but I see DI2AM (and some local QRM) on the waterfall
at 1400UTC.

I have restored the grabber to normal, 5 minute updates, but please
ensure you use the following URL:-

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm

I hope to restore the antenna to its full height, and to resonate/match
it, when I can get a replacement section of the telescopic fibreglass
pole. Until then I might have to lower the antenna in bad weather, as
it's only guyed at one level and might be a bit unstable in high winds.

Regards,

John
GM4SLV






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Thanks for reports,=20

I have changed mode to  'cw'  4 wpm , 503.000

will run till past midnight=20

Tnx

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
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  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:05 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


  Sorry about that , the exciter failed .... after a fet taps , its back on=20=
, beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lenght of about 4 seconds .=20

  G ..=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Subject: LF: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


    Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

    =20

    Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

    =20

    Station set up=20

    =20

    Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

    Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

    TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

    TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

    Mode , USB=20

    =20

    Test message=20

    =20

    CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



    Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



    Tnx



    Graham  - G0NBD- IO83LK=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for reports, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have changed mode to&nbsp; 'cw'&nbsp; 4 w=
pm ,=20
503.000</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will run till past midnight </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co=
.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 9:05=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Hf packet test 110=
 baud=20
  , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry about that , the exciter failed ...=
. after=20
  a fet taps , its back on , beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lengh=
t of=20
  about 4 seconds . </FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk       href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsne=
t.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
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p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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45=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Hf packet test 110 b=
aud ,=20
    200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz </DIV>
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=20
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    - G0NBD- IO83LK </SPAN></B></P></DIV>
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Warren,

some of us are using the Z3815a here. They came with lots of great info from=
 Murray ZL1BPU. He may be able to help with the Z3816a  murray@rakon.co.nz

Mike ZL4OL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: K2ORS=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:57 AM
  Subject: LF: Z3816A


  Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
  HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon has=
 nothing!

  73 Warren K2ORS




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  <DIV>Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?<BR>HP=20
  sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon has=20
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:34:35 +0100
Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

> Hello John,
>=20
> GM4SLV schrieb:
> > I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
> >
> >  =20
> Got a few bits on 502.x a few minutes ago, but 80 meters seems is
> almost dead (within EU) at the time of day. Just an EA5... on 3550
> kHz deep in the QSB.


Hi Wolf, LF

I heard you call on 80m and replied on 502.1. You weren't very strong
(439 at best) on 80m but then you disappeared completely.

Heard you again just now at 22:39, I called but no reply again.
Conditions not good on either band?

Better luck another night/

Now QRT

73

John GM4SLV

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Hi all.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted.  I found it in the ARRL  
newsletter yesterday.
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
* 500 kHz Distance Record Set: On January 17, Neil  Schwanitz,
V73NS/WD8CRT, on Roi-Namur in the Marshall Islands, received a  signal
from experimental station WD2XSH/20. This experimental station,  operated
by Rudy Severns N6LF, is located in Cottage Grove, Oregon -- 4737  miles
away from the island in the Kwajalein atoll. The 13 words-per-minute  CW
transmission was copyable by ear and also appeared in the  Spectran
capture. During this same week, the Belgian BIPT (the equivalent of  the
FCC) granted Belgian amateurs with full licenses access to 501-504  kHz
with up to 5 W ERP; this is the first general amateur allocation at  500
kHz. The ARRL 500 kHz experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued  in
September 2006 and has 20 active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of  Vermont,
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for Amateur Radio <http://www.500kc.com/>. Additional information  can be
found at the experiment's Web site and also in the July/August  2007
issue of QEX <http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf>.  




   

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Hello Rik,
I see your signal in Spectran. Actually high QRM level, which always
reduce much sometime after 11pm UTC. So later i'm sure no problem to
hear your CW. Hope for X-Band 80/600m with you in future.

vy73
Marco
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Dear all,

DI2AM peaking 599 ... increadible
A pitty the DI's cannot make QSO's.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Hello Rik and group,

 

Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will
start?

Maybe I have missed it.

 

Best regards

 

Mike

 

GW4HXO.

_________________________________________________________________________

 


Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium

 

Dear all,

 

today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  

use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  

so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.

 

I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD

 

 


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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt'>Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz per=
mission will
start?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt'>Maybe I have missed it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 12.0pt'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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n">Belgium</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></p>

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ont-size: 10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) t=
hat we
can&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (=
all
speeds,&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively some 'h=
orizon gain'?

73 Warren K2ORS

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Andy Talbot=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:53 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experim=
ent


  A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of=
 the world.
  Andy  G4JNT


  =20
  On 18/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:=20
    Slightly OT,
      received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif engin=
eer
    for the HAARP project:=20
    73 Warren K2ORS

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)"

    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM
    Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment


    >
    > Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
    >
    > The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
    > and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted
    > a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.=20
    > A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
    > echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
    >
    > HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment=20
    > for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
    > wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
    > listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
    > following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and=20
    > times are in Universal Time (UTC):
    >
    > HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
    >
    > Date
    >>From      To
    > Transmitted Frequency
    >
    > (UTC)
    > UTC
    > Hr:Min)
    > (MHz)=20
    >
    > 19 January 2008
    > 05:00
    > 06:00          6.7925
    >
    > 06:00
    > 07:00          7.4075
    >
    > 20 January 2008
    > 06:30
    > 07:30          6.7925
    >
    > 07:30=20
    > 08:30          7.4075
    >
    >
    > Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
    > to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
    > and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40=20
    > meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
    > antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
    > transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the followin=
g=20
    > figure.
    >
    > (not avaialable)
    >
    > The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
    > five
    > second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the=20
    > lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
    > repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
    > During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeat=
ed=20
    > but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
    > Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
    > carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW=20
    > mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
    > operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above=
.
    > However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,=20
    > it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
    >
    > Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
    > to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
    > the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
    > seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
    > 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
    > The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period=20
    > after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
    > 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
    > a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or=20
    > neither.
    >
    > We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
    > who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
    > transmitted
    > skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes=20
    > your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
    > and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
    >
    > mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu=20
    >
    > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
    >
    > [end]
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perhaps you will get some bending by the io=
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dandy.g4jnt@googlemail.com     href=3D"mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlem=
ail.com">Andy Talbot</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2008 3:53=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Fw: Information Ab=
out=20
  the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this pa=
rt=20
  of the world.</DIV>
  <DIV>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 18/01/2008, <B     class=3Dgmail_sendern=
ame>K2ORS</B> &lt;<A     href=3D"mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net=
</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN>=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote     style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Slightly=20
    OT,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd=20
    W4YHD cheif engineer<BR>for the HAARP project: <BR>73 Warren=20
    K2ORS<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Floyd, Steve (US=20
    SSA)"<BR><BR>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM<BR>Subject: Informat=
ion=20
    About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
 The=20
    HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,<BR>&gt; and the Lo=
ng=20
    Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted<BR>&gt; a bistatic low=20
    frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007. <BR>&gt; A brief=20
    description of the experiment and an example of the lunar<BR>&gt; echo r=
adio=20
    waves received may be found in this press release.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; HAARP=
 and=20
    LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment <BR>&gt; for 19 and=
 20=20
    January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short<BR>&gt; wave listeners=
 are=20
    invited to participate in this experiment by<BR>&gt; listening for the l=
unar=20
    echoes and submitting reports. The<BR>&gt; following table shows the pla=
nned=20
    schedule, where dates and <BR>&gt; times are in Universal Time=20
    (UTC):<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Date<BR>&gt;&gt;From&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To<BR>&gt;=20
    Transmitted Frequency<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (UTC)<BR>&gt; UTC<BR>&gt;=20
    Hr:Min)<BR>&gt; (MHz) <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 19 January 2008<BR>&gt; 05:00<BR>=
&gt;=20
    06:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    06:00<BR>&gt;=20
    07:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    20 January 2008<BR>&gt; 06:30<BR>&gt;=20
    07:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    07:30 <BR>&gt;=20
    08:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<=
BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible<BR>&g=
t;=20
    to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver<BR>&gt;=
 and=20
    an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40 <BR>&gt; met=
er=20
    beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other<BR>&gt; anten=
nas=20
    may also yield acceptable results. The format for the<BR>&gt; transmissi=
ons=20
    will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following <BR>&gt;=20
    figure.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (not avaialable)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The HAARP=20
    transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the<BR>&gt;=20
    five<BR>&gt; second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to liste=
n=20
    for the <BR>&gt; lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two=20
    seconds,<BR>&gt; repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first=20=
HF=20
    frequency.<BR>&gt; During the second hour, this periodic five second cyc=
le=20
    will be repeated <BR>&gt; but using a different HF frequency as shown in=
 the=20
    table above.<BR>&gt; Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second per=
iod,=20
    will be<BR>&gt; carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners shoul=
d=20
    use the CW <BR>&gt; mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar e=
cho.=20
    We hope to<BR>&gt; operate this experiment using the frequencies given i=
n=20
    the table above.<BR>&gt; However, depending on frequency occupancy at th=
e=20
    time of operation, <BR>&gt; it may be necessary to adjust the frequency=20
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 may=20
    not be possible<BR>&gt; to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If=20
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ing=20
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    example, between<BR>&gt; 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:0=
5=20
    and 05:00:07.<BR>&gt; The lunar echoes will occur during the three secon=
d=20
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    interval 05:00:02 until<BR>&gt; 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 unti=
l=20
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the=20
    lunar echo, both or <BR>&gt; neither.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We are interested=20=
in=20
    receiving signal reports from radio amateurs<BR>&gt; who may be able to=20
    detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the<BR>&gt; transmitted<BR>&gt;=
=20
    skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes=20
    <BR>&gt; your call sign and the type and location of your receiving=20
    equipment<BR>&gt; and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following=20
    address:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <A       href=3D"mailto:mbreport@haarp.alaska.e=
du">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu=20
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Wolf,

congratulations - but how did you do it?

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> One of the neighbours moved out, and he seems to have taken the strongest source of QRM with him ;-)



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Hello James ,
Good copy of your signal Wolf_20 on 500kHz
73 qro J-P f1afj JN06HT


James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
> 2200utc.
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
> reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
> quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
> with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
> improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
> would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well befo=
re
> the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much abou=
t
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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t:  24 f: 0.273 a:-0.8 dp:-11.1 ci: 9 cj:478 ??????????????? -
22:15:00 >WOLF RESTARTED
t:  12 f:-1.075 a:-0.5 dp:-22.4 ci: 9 cj:478 ??????????????? -
t:  24 f: 1.824 a:-0.1 dp:-24.8 ci:10 cj:443 ??????????????? -
t:  48 f: 0.267 a:-0.4 dp:-26.0 ci: 8 cj:206 ??????????????? -
t:  96 f: 0.273 pm:0.000 jm:548 q:  1.2-17.0 ??????????????? -
t: 144 f: 0.273 pm:0.002 jm:548 q:  6.5-20.8 ??????????????? -
t: 192 f: 0.273 pm:0.002 jm:548 q:  8.9-20.8 ??????????????? -
t: 240 f: 0.254 pm:0.002 jm:548 q: 10.2-22.2 ??????????????? -
t: 288 f: 0.254 pm:0.003 jm:548 q: 10.8-22.9 ??????????????? -
t: 336 f: 0.254 pm:0.004 jm:548 q: 11.0-23.7 ??????????????? -
t: 384 f: 0.254 pm:0.004 jm:548 q: 11.8-23.6 ??????????????? -
t: 432 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 12.6-26.4 314???????????? -
t: 480 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 12.9-25.1 30GTSFVO*TFO??? -
t: 528 f: 0.254 pm:0.007 jm:548 q: 13.8-13.8 QR 3WI93OG SFCM ?
t: 576 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.6 13.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 624 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 672 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.7 13.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 720 f: 0.254 pm:0.008 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.4 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 768 f: 0.234 pm:0.009 jm:548 q: 12.2 13.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 816 f: 0.234 pm:0.010 jm:548 q: 12.5 13.1 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 864 f: 0.234 pm:0.015 jm:548 q: 13.2 13.7 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 912 f: 0.234 pm:0.019 jm:548 q: 13.6 14.2 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t: 960 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 13.9 14.4 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1008 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.5 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1056 f: 0.234 pm:0.020 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.6 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1104 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.1 14.5 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1152 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.3 14.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1200 f: 0.234 pm:0.021 jm:548 q: 14.8 15.3 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1248 f: 0.234 pm:0.023 jm:548 q: 15.1 15.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1296 f: 0.234 pm:0.023 jm:548 q: 15.2 15.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1344 f: 0.254 pm:0.025 jm:548 q: 16.3 16.8 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1392 f: 0.254 pm:0.028 jm:548 q: 16.5 16.9 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1440 f: 0.254 pm:0.029 jm:548 q: 16.5 17.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -
t:1488 f: 0.254 pm:0.030 jm:548 q: 16.5 17.0 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -

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Hi Hartmut,

I can confirm the frequency and  make it to be 189.9497 kHz,
but the long dots?  They should be 60 seconds!

Will check this.

Thanks
Joe

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Joe,
>
> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>> will reamin in operation.
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>
> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got some 
> "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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yes it is an interesting project the old chap has been testing...NO mention 
of sun light being used  A Cable is used up thru the conduit pipe and into 
the sphere...as he places the spere in the water vessel no rise of water 
height..this would mean the water has gone inside the sphere ball 
thingie...any electics regardless of frequency would be in contact 
withwhatever hes got inside....any flow of electrical current heats water 
the same as having a heater element...old wizard zip water heaters just used 
probes in water for heating...didnt work well in southcant because of 
scaling of probes....hope he takes care with it and runs it thru isolator 
transfrmr...hope iam still like him at his great age   george zl3pn
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> gboorerzl3pn wrote:
>> hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has got 
>> a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after 
>> a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It 
>> has stunned professors and science standards...he wont let on 
>> much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the 
>> highfreqency audio electric current is heating the water ..BUT IS 
>> IT....george zl3pn
> Sounds exactly like a magnifying glass in circumstances where the 
> refractive indices of the mediums or "reverse" on what people usually 
> expect.. Calculate the difference in the refractive indices of water and 
> the glass he's used.  For a wide enought spread,  the focal point moves 
> outside the glass sphere........ so the solar energy is concentrated on a 
> spot somewhere in the water close to the sphere. That's where the heat 
> energy is focussed, and so that's where there will be "flash conversion" 
> to steam.
>
> Yes, its is most likely that there's cavitation as it is  flashed to 
> steam..... and probably even noise (acoustic energy resulting from the 
> inefficiencies of the process) But ultrasonics is strictly the process of 
> inputting mechanical energy.
> What we have here,, however, is good old photons, at wavelengths between 
> 440 and 770 nanometres (give or take a yard)
> Don't believe it? OK, what's the possible source of acoustic energy to 
> drive an "ultrasonic" device?
> He's using sunlight, its a photon machine.
> Doug zl2aov
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Ok wolf, looks like the set up is working ? might of been 'messing about' 
but its running now,  hopefully should be ok , tx should be stable , 
soundcard is a isa awe64 , been on 3 hors , so , see what happens ..

Tnx

G ..


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From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON 502.800


> Graham,
>
>> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure 
>> with
>> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
>> G ..
>
> I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
> visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?
>
>
> t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
> t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  96 f:-2.399 a:-0.3 dp:109.6 ci:13 cj:165 *AF67Y???2T3BE0 ?
> t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
> t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 
> 19:32
>
> 




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near HAM's toppic
www.hackersrussia.ru/music/cq_serenade.mp3

CQ Serenade (English) - The Amateur Radio song; Words and music by the
late  VE2QS  and  VE2BR.  Played  by  VE2QS and his Orchestra; Sung in
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX  ( vy good signal )

WD2XGJ ( good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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hi..in new zealand lf ops have found in heaverly biult in or eclosed areas l=
oops work better than any form of verical system...loops of wire say 100ft a=
cross between poles what ever and down wires to ft or so above ground back t=
o a feed point..poles 30 to 40ft..they work up and down zl  and into vk if t=
hings up stairs in good mood....connection is done by capacitors for tuning=20=
and  z match....lower loops grounded you have to be clear of power cables et=
c...especialy if  your ac 230v is a multiple earthed neurtral system as used=
 in zl  73 george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:04 PM
  Subject: LF: Low long wires


  Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n f=
ailure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground jus=
t a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable spe=
ed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplie=
d.
  =20
  Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded ar=
ea in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but su=
pported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wire=
s up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 1=
2 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.=20
  =20
  So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in thi=
s type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone e=
lse have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?  On the TX=
 side I see this without a lot of  clearing as another large TX loop experie=
nce - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment=
.
  =20
  Laurence=20


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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska=
 -=20
  but my s/n failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel=20
  underground just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and=
 the=20
  variable speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power=
=20
  cable supplied.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Im going to put&nbsp;"down" or it is "up" a=20
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  they will be insulated off but supported by the trees.&nbsp;Ive just gaine=
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  another painful acre so will have wires up to 100m in length or so -&nbsp;=
I=20
  have silt sand and ground water at around 12 feet in depth close in by a=20
  freshish water (ice at the moment)&nbsp;lake. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>So -=20
  question&nbsp;what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in thi=
s=20
  type of medium (?)&nbsp;Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does any=
one=20
  else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nbsp; O=
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Hello Rik and LFers!
I will be listening on 503.1kHz for you. As Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ,  has
been written, the X-band QSO will be good idea. For example used
frequency 3533kHz?

Good luck on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

****************************************************

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:08 PM
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Subject: LF: QRV on 503kHz

Dear all,

I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,  
guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the  
Shetland grabber.
I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX  
switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays  
and short transmissions.
I will be using my short call: OR7T

73,

Rik

ON7YD - OR7T

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:10:55 -0000
"mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Hi all
> The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW,
> which is the predominant mode on 500 khz.

My grabber isn't meant to be used to read CW, that's what your ears and
brain are for!

The grabber is meant as a remote signal reporting tool. Admittedly it
allows reading of QRSS3 CW visually, but that's more by accident than
design. 

To use it to check your own signal all you need to do is key down, or
send CW etc.... on a known frequency at a known time, (perhaps a series
of long dashes?) and then check the grabber via the web. 

I admit that it makes identifying unknown "real" CW difficult, but you
can't have everything! Most signals (especially CW beacons) are
identifiable once you know the usual QRG and have heard the signal
yourself to know what it sounds like - eg Finbar's callsign and long
dash are easily ID'd visually once you know what they sound like.


Imagine the speed it would have to scroll to show real CW and the number
of web updates needed to keep it reasonably up to date for the remote
viewer! 

At present mine fills a screen in about 4 minutes with a 300ms scroll
speed, and uploads each screenful every 5 minutes.

This allows you (watching via the web) to see a reasonably continuous
picture of activity with reasonable refresh rate. 

To scroll fast enough to read CW by eye would require much faster
scrolling speed and to ensure nothing is missed by the viewer
watching online the picture would need uploading to the web that
much more often. 

I figured my setup balanced utility with bandwidth. 

I also archive each and every picture locally so it's possible to
provide historical data for any day/time. If the screen was scrolling
fast enough to read CW by eye I couldn't do this - too much data to
store! Guess how much data I have stored already - 5 minute updates
running continuously 24/7 since July......!!

> Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
> others.

Mine does. There's a box at the bottom of the picture showing date/time
etc of the capture and vertical marks for each minute (with the time
marked at the foot of each minute). The time is accurate too - the PC
is locked to NTP time.


I hope my grabber is of use to people. One of the stated aims in my NoV
application was to provide a remote station to be of assistance to
other NoV holders - and while I have been unable to get on the air to
have QSOs recently at least I've been able to make a contribution to
the experiment! 

I figure I can at least make my station useful for something when I
can't operate it myself.

Regards,

John




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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report! Let us hope that your noise goes away!

73 Warren K2ORS



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> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> G3XDV
> WD2XGJ
> The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized 
> more and more ........
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
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> 



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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hi Uwe,
> capture last morning  03.47-05.47z
> 73

Hi Andrey,
thanks. so you caught WX the second time.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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It might make sense for all UK beacons to move up as near as possible to the
EU beacons on 505 khz approx. UK beacons could get as near to 504 khz as
possible and make it more convenient for grabber operators, and improve
selectivity.
Mal/G3KEV


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Hi  Dex ,
Yes the conditions are very good in this moment , yesterday your signal=20
was not badly, I will say even well  ! ! ! !
look at :    ftp://ftpperso.free.fr/LF/2008/January/05/
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Dexter McIntyre W4DEX a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Conditions appear to have been exceptionally stable last night.  I=20
> believe this is the first time I've seen XKO on your grabber with no=20
> fades for nearly three hours.
>
> Dex, XKO
>
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>> Hello  all on LF ,
>>
>> Last night i copy  :
>>
>> DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO
>>
>> The captures of night are with this URL :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>>
>> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>
>
>
>
>

--=20
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/


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* uwe-jannsen@versanet.de [Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:01:27 +0100]:
> Zitat von "Roman ." <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:
>
> > Hi Uwe and LF!
> >
> > DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
> > full report in the final of web-page:
> > http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
> >
> > 73!
> > RW3ADB, Roman
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hi Roman,
> thanks for the direct sent mails. sri I didnt answer them immediately.
> yes, I know Andy/RN3AGC vy well.
> thanks for the up to date screenshots from DJ8WX and for the old
> ones from DI2BE.
> DI2BE will be off the air the next months. Im now staying on
> 137kHz - back to the roots!
> your question conc languages: sri, I dont speak the russian language.
> but the meaning of the sentences in your and Andys websites are clear.
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

Guten tag, Uwe.
oki, Uwe. I make all next web-reports on english.


73!
--
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Dear Rik, LF Group,

Congratulations on your first QSOs on 500k; I think I just missed you on
503.0k - I heard the end of a call at quite good strength around 2200utc and
then no more. But there will be other opportunities :-) Could also faintly
hear GM4SLV on about 502kHz.

I am now (2210utc) running the beacon again in WOLF 20 mode on 503.800kHz -
any reports would be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

G3XDV
WD2XGJ
The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized more and more ........

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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RUNNING  WOLF BEACON - MODE 10-
503.500 . 

Will run till past midnight, 

Intrested on freqiency and stability 

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

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Jim,

No copy or even promising indications last night. If the currently poor 
LF propagation is a guide, then there might be a better TA window in a 
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Mike

Looked several times last night but no joy.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: LF: Beacon on 136


>I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
> 
> Reports welcomed.
> 
> Mike, G3XDV.
> ==========
> 
>


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On 29 Jan 2008 22:59 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear Rik, dr John, and all,
> 
> this has been a busy evening also for me!


Hi Hajo & LF,

Yes, it's been a very interesting evening.

Firstly thanks Hajo for the x-band QSO. I chose 3551 because 3533 had a
strong data transmission and 3545 was also busy. I found 3551 to be
better tonight. 3533 often suffers from QRM and usually find a
spot higher up the band (3545 is often okay, but not tonight). Your
30W on 80m was perfectly readable on my K2 even with an antenna only
20m long and < 2m AGL, nailed to a wooden fence! 

I find the ability to work full-duplex between MF and HF to be very
useful, so could send continuously on 502.1 and listen for you to report
my signal fading back up and know I could then give your report.

If only I could send and read CW at the same time we could have 2-way
full duplex QSOs!!


Rik's signal was good all evening, never falling in QSB to less than
449. Gus SM6BHZ was VERY strong - S9+ on the meter, with the pre-amp
off! The AR7030 that feeds the grabber now runs with no AGC, in order
that strong signals don't reduce the gain and remove weak signals, but I
found that Gus's signal was overloading the soundcard and I had to turn
the RF gain on the AR7030 down!

I don't know if Gus and Rik eventually exchanged reports, but it seemed
that Gus couldn't hear Rik at all?

Cheers all and well done Rik for a great signal this evening.

John GM4SLV




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Yes, Mal, I know, but if the signal is poor, it is not easy to decode it
as normal cw.
=20
The conditions are going up - your signal CQ CQ was nice now, as you can
see.
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon
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Lubos
GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
73 Mal/G3KEV
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
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=20
Hallo Finbar and LFers!
I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20
=20
Have a nice weekend!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 04, 200=
8
7:27 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500]
GI4DPE_beacon</span></font></p>

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mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lubos</span></font><o:=
p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>GI4DPE has been active=
 on beacon
mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73 Mal/G3KEV</span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>

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mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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cm 0cm 4.0pt;  margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-b=
ottom:5.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message=
 ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><fon=
t  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;f=
ont-weight:  bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span=20=
style=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bo=
balik@rtv5.cz"  title=3D"lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</a> <o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DA=
rial><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To=
:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" tit=
le=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DA=
rial><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Se=
nt:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
January 04, 2008 6:06 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DA=
rial><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Su=
bject:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> LF: [500]
GI4DPE_beacon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hallo Finbar and LFers=
!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I can see your signal=20=
quite soon
this evening, but in QRSS mode only. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Have a nice weekend!<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>No virus found in this
incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG Free Edition. <br>
Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 02/01/2008
11:29<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( Visible just a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Dear Uwe, LF's
Attached, there is my FIRST ever received radioamateur station on 137 
khz .  It happend to be dj8wx
capture was made around 0030 UTC , 15th of  January on 136.319 khz -  
soft set in qrss60 mode.
( "1.5"  of WX  i.e X  followed by W and X )  :)
i have terrible qrm in my location ( city downtown)  the loop antenna 
was INSIDE  the room (3rd floor),  around 1 m from the window
series tuned, followed by an impedance raising transformer, then 5m of  
50 ohm cable,  2-stage ( BF245 FET, BC107 )
 amplifier yielding abt 32 dB at 137 khz and finally ft857d trx. i've 
found in my notes jo43sv as the location of  dj8wx
137 khz  transmitter so this makes 706 km 
                                                                       
73 de (very happy) peter,sq7mpj    /jo91rs/

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Received at S7 at Leeds, Gary, but too slow to read by conventional 
means.  The Morse test I took was at 12wpm ;-)

73

David G4DMP
IO93hs

In a recent message, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote ...
>Hi LF,
>
>G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
>QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Jim I have been checking here but nothing so far
de Lloyd W3NF FM19Mh
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
> 2200utc.
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
> reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
> quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
> with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
> improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
> would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well 
> before
> the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much 
> about
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 



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RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs 

MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME

MMTTY , NON REV ,
MARK TONE  1275 HZ
85 HZ SHIFT ,
45.45 BAUD

TX  SET .... 501.000  USB

TNX 

G .. 



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I should have noted that the noise level is about S4. HAARP has gotten 
weaker since report below.

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: HAARP heard better now on 74075 South Bend, IN


> Haarp is being heard better now on 74075.... at least one way is, but not 
> both... hi hi
>
> About S5-S6
>
> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
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Hallo Hans.

nice to see you agn on 137KHz. the station you worked is DL4EAU Tom. i made 
a capture from your CQ at 2100utc 05.01.2008. the RX is a simple direct 
conversion receiver(so42p).
  happy new year dr Hans.

Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

73/55
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" <dk8nd@web.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: LF: 136k Weekend Acty 5.-6.01.2007


> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
>
> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
>
> Hans-Albrecht
> DK 8 ND
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Ok Thanks for the frequency check,

Its just as it came out of the box at the momen

if its stable then a check on the sound card will sort the offset, the 
exciter is ok as far as i can tell

Rgds

Graham .


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> Graham,
>
> Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
> Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
> lost some lines.
> Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37
>
> t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
> t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
> t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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echoes of haarp started coming in at 0822hrs utc.tried both upper and lower=20=
sidebands near zero beat where u could hear the echos..almost full moon on c=
rystal twilight summer evening..mite have heard echo earlier as the moon jus=
t cleared forest tree plantation at 0820 utc,,but what now ???  george zl3pn=
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just as much to do with 136 ,500 khzas haarp .we use what ever means 
possible to advise kiwis over seas..been on lf 181khz longer then u guys up 
there..was the 1st to get going on lf 181khz 15years ago..run 1000watts 
input and radiate 3watts from quarter acre city section  60ft vetical and 
ring loop around top of four poles..ssb and cw into vk...max eirp is 5watts 
allowed...argo boys contact with nz and kazackstan.. my gear all home 
brew..73s  george zl3pn
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> On 20 Jan 2008 at 13:48, gboorerzl3pn wrote:
>
>> thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should
>> be able to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of
>> the hams lucky enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away
>> back in 50s on 14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in
>> group a all silent keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
>
> Sorry, but what has this to do with 136kHz or 500kHz?
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 




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Hello LF,

I've restored my TX antenna (temporarily at 8m height instead of the
previous 11m) with the same top loading as previous.

The grabber looks normal again, with signals from G3XIZ, G0MRF,
DI2AM and OK2EMW

The antenna is okay for transmit too so I might be able to have a few
QSOs with it, despite the lower vertical height, since the QRN level
seems a lot lower than when I was last active back in November.

Cheers,
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hi Gus,

Congratulations for 500 KHz band licence.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: 500 kHz/BHZ


Hi all,

I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we 
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ




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Graham, LF,

Feld Hell 100% copy here, print screen too large for here, sent direct.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Tnx for reports on ALE mode,
>
> Changed mode to  fileld hell , - multipsk -  cent freq  503.000
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:18 PM
> Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!
>
>
>> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone 
>> linear system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is 
>> successful
>>
>>
>>
>> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
>>
>>
>>
>> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
>>
>> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
>>
>> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
>>
>>
>>
>> Reports  welome , did it print ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx - G ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
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>>
>
>
>
> 




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Laurie

The maintainance manual seems to be on mods.dk

http://www.mods.dk/manual.php?brand=racal

Stewart G3YSX


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Hi John,

Thanks for report, its not bad for 80 mW from a 12 metre vertical in a small 
back garden.

The received percentage would allow a QSO between us but with several 
repeats, Graham & me had no QSB problems so that allowed us 100 percent 
copy.

I'm off for a shower then crack open a can or two. HI. HI.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: [500] RTTY 502kHz


> Hello LF, Gary, Graham,
>
> Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
> following, of your last couple of overs..
>
>
> (1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..
>
> WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..
>
> JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..
>
> LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.
>
> OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..
>
> BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS
>
> G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
> V
> OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
> H YQQ:) B
>
> MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS
> VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK
>
>
> L73B
> AS
> SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
> NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
> THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
> 73
>
>
>
> Not too brilliant?
>
>
> and this of Graham's CQ
>
>
> VRYRYRY
> SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD
> RYRSRYRS
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> NOD G09
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> B
>
>
> Off now to watch the footy...
>
> 73
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
> 




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lawrence mayhead wrote:

> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is 
> neccessesary to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or 
> does it do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?

I forgot to add that the output of Perseus can routed to Argo or for this matter to any other sound card programs by 
using the VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) product. No re-digitization will be performed, no pesky cables interconnecting two 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for monitoring.  The transmiter is still operating normally and
will reamin in operation.

73
Joe VO1NA


On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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Dear all,

just worked my first QSO's on 600m:

21.01 G3AQC (559, deep QSB) = first ON-G
21.04 GM4SLV (339, peaking 519) = first ON-GM / 1102km
21.09 G3ZWH (529, steady)

Sorry for the short QSO's, the PA is still heating and I am monitoring  
3 meters during transmission.
I tried 80m on the 600m antenna, but no noise and few weak stations  
(as expected). So for now no xband.

I will call CQ on 503.1kHz once in a while untill 22 UTC.
After each CQ I scan the entire band for reply.
The range 501.6-503.3 is prefferd as I have strong QRM at the band edges.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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"Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded are=
as? "...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.

thanks
Laurence
Singapore



________________________________

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Subject: LF: Low long wires




Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20=
a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
 drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.

Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded area=
 in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but supp=
orted by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wires=20=
up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 12=20=
feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.

So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this=20=
type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone els=
e have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?  On the TX s=
ide I see this without a lot of  clearing as another large TX loop experienc=
e - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment.

Laurence


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Sorry , correct URL !

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> The captures of the night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/
>

--=20
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/


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Hello LFers,

A very interesting video indeed.  A nice mix of craftsmanship
and technology.  I have an old 304TH that I light up every
so often just to see the glow that transistors don't give!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Thanks John,
Nice to know I can still get a signal across.
Happy New Year to you and yours
Laurie

On 01/01/2008, John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com> wrote:
>
> Caught a fairly ghostly "AQ" in the local noise here tonight around 0H,
> but no more. None of the other signals on Jean-Pierre's grabber were
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> John Andrews, W1TAG
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> Happy New Year!
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Thanks John,<br>Nice to know I can still get a signal across.<br>Happy New Year to you and yours<br>Laurie<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 01/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Andrews</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:w1tag@w1tag.com">
w1tag@w1tag.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Caught a fairly ghostly &quot;AQ&quot; in the local noise here tonight around 0H,
<br>but no more. None of the other signals on Jean-Pierre&#39;s grabber were<br>visible. Quite noisy in the neighborhood tonight.<br><br>John Andrews, W1TAG<br><br>Happy New Year!<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello ED,

Nothing seen on 137700/QRRS3 before 22:00 UTC! after I commutated the=20
antenna towards the USA.
I raised a trace not identified on 137774 ~ ,  bis what it will be you=20
?   (see capture) .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj



Ed Lesnichy a =C3=A9crit :
> Dear LF enthusiasts!
>
> I'll work tonight (5-6 jan) on abt 137.700
>
> The last night (4-5 jan) I had pleasant QSOs with DL2HRE, EW6GB and UW4WPF=
 - all good "O" in 3s mode=20
>
> I saw also QRSS signals (abt M-T) XGJ and XKO in 60s mode from 2330z till=20=
1.30z
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hi Lawrence
the Winradio 313internal or external receiver contains DSP internally 
and does not rely on Soundcard so that it can be used for other processes.
The internal version can also be ordered with IF out and also external 
precision oscillator input to ensure accurate tuning.
Well worth looking at.
I have had no PC interference problems affecting the senitivity etc, and 
use Argo,Skysweeper and SpectrumLab without problems
dave
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
webpage
www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org


lawrence mayhead wrote:
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these 
> are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my 
> computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do 
> the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.


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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
On the captures of the night spent , one guesses a
trace on the frequency of VO1NA! it is perhaps it ????

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj




















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capture 137.720  14:30utc   but  who?

henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
73s

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Further info on my QSO with Rik OR7T last night, I was using a tunable
pre-amp with a gain of 3 - 10dB gain in front of my Kenwood TS140 )used as
RX only), the antenna is a 102ft doublet with the 8m section of vertical 430
ohm feeder commoned at the Variometer. The TX was producing 600mA into the
antenna.

73  Ken

M0KHW    IO91TV   

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:59:43 -0000
"Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good
> signal, I gave him 477.

Hi Ken, LF

Congratulations on working Rik.


That 477 is an interesting report!

"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."

Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

;-)

John GM4SLV




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Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February. =20

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application. =20

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

g3wkl@btinternet.com




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Dear Jay, LF Group,

Normally I leave the beacon running until the morning - around 0900utc. I
hope to be putting out some kind of signal most nights until my 500k
experimental permit expires on February 29th.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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> Jim
>
> What time do you normally shut down?
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Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for
the AOR 7030
and it certainly  looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu  operating
system.
I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went
wrong. I have
looked for a replacement but they don't seem to be around any more. Andy,
the problem
is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could
probably have a go at
repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
73 Laurie G3AQC

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Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for the AOR 7030<br>and it certainly&nbsp; looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu&nbsp; operating system.<br>I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went wrong. I have
<br>looked for a replacement but they don&#39;t seem to be around any more. Andy, the problem<br>is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could probably have a go at<br>repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
<br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech


STUNNING ! ! !
 
Love it !!
 
Thanks
 
73 de Pat  G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK




   

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Thank-you Hartmut and Jean-Pierre.

73
Joe

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Hartmut and Joe ,
>
> Nil on my screen !
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
>> Joe,
>>=20
>> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>>> will reamin in operation.
>>> 73
>>> Joe VO1NA
>>=20
>> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got=20
>> some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>>=20
>> 73
>> Hartmut
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:59:43 -0000
"Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good
> signal, I gave him 477.

Hi Ken, LF

Congratulations on working Rik.


That 477 is an interesting report!

"Readable with practically no difficulty, moderately strong signals,
near pure tone with trace of ripple modulation."

Don't hear too many "non-T9" reports these days...

;-)

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Hello Jim.
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj




















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Hello J-P, Group,

Yes, there appear to be traces of signal elements on 184.006 kHz.
Good work!
Joe VO1NA

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible one "X" in qrss120 at 02:30 , Warren what your power ? )

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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t:  24 f:-0.419 a: 1.5 dp:132.0 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:  48 f:-0.421 a:-1.5 dp:131.1 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:  96 f:-0.420 a:-1.6 dp:126.8 ci: 9 cj:428 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 192 f:-0.420 pm:19975 jm:104 q:  3.9  4.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 288 f:-0.420 pm:34002 jm:104 q:  8.2  8.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 384 f:-0.420 pm:95018 jm:104 q: 12.2 11.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 480 f:-0.420 pm:249249 jm:104 q: 15.2 15.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 576 f:-0.420 pm:352888 jm:104 q: 16.2 16.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 672 f:-0.420 pm:456844 jm:104 q: 17.3 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 768 f:-0.420 pm:518792 jm:104 q: 17.1 17.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 864 f:-0.420 pm:542468 jm:104 q: 17.7 18.0 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t: 960 f:-0.420 pm:610939 jm:104 q: 18.1 18.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1056 f:-0.420 pm:623184 jm:104 q: 18.7 18.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1152 f:-0.420 pm:638222 jm:104 q: 18.3 18.7 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1248 f:-0.420 pm:644140 jm:104 q: 17.3 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1344 f:-0.420 pm:646768 jm:104 q: 15.8 15.9 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1440 f:-0.420 pm:648484 jm:104 q: 17.1 17.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1536 f:-0.420 pm:650815 jm:104 q: 16.0 16.3 73 GL DE M0BMU  -
t:1632 f:-0.420 pm:653916 jm:104 q: 15.0 15.2 73 GL DE M0BMU  -

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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.. on 503.1 kHz, in QSO with a G-stn which is not audible here at the 
moment.

73,
  Wolf  (lurking...)


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Hi Dave, LF,

That is a nice improvement & without compromising the 136 grabber.

Thanks,

Gary - G4WGT.

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> Chaps
>
> On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 
> is
> on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit 
> and
> display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the
> bottom before!)
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> 73
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> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
> 




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Hello LF,

I am currently (at approx 09:30z) hearing G3ZWH calling CQ on 501.92kHz.
RST 329 (with tuneable pre-amp and 10Hz AF filter!)

Despite several calls I'm unable to raise him, although not really
surprised.

Regards,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hi Rik,
Many thanks for the QSO, it was great to work a
new country.Your signal was S5 with QSB at 20:00
when we worked but improved to S6/7 with deep
QSB later.
Hope you get the PA sorted soon, I am sure your
signal will encourage more people on to the band.
73 Laurie

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Hi Rik,<br>Many thanks for the QSO, it was great to work a <br>new country.Your signal was S5 with QSB at 20:00<br>when we worked but improved to S6/7 with deep<br>QSB later.&nbsp; <br>Hope you get the PA sorted soon, I am sure your<br>
signal will encourage more people on to the band.<br>73 Laurie<br> 

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Dear Rik,=20
          that is very good news in the new year. Congratulations. Are you a=
llowed for QSO`s or beaconing only?
Let us hope that in other countries the OM`s start negotiations with their a=
uthorities soon.
My recommendation about antennas: Take the simple vertical at the beginning=20=
and later on the loop as well. Then you can compare both.
73   Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF


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GM to all!
Band is quite noisy, but I captured beacom "MRF" sometimes.
 
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Dave, John and group
As noted on my website and here the grabber I am running is very much 
'experimental'.
in practical terms a useable service is provided with a 5 minute refresh 
rate (even with the missing minute), and it certainly does not stress 
bandwidth considerations. I personally am an impatient sort, and the ability 
to offer a more frequent refresh and nice smooth scroll appealed to me.
I settled on the http server within spectrum lab for its simplicity, and for 
the additional remote control it offers, and because I had in my estimation 
sufficient bandwidth.
When I first experimented with it I had a small image and higher 
compression, and made some measurements of the required bandwidth. I later 
upped the image quality and size for a test, and did not re-measure.. though 
I did not observe any issues.
The file size by the way, is related heavily to content with JPG files, I 
have seen that the file size rises dramatically if the brightness is high, 
as the 'noisy' image is harder to compress.
With the contrast and brightness at the correct level images off my system 
are about 100K, and take about 1.6 to 2 seconds to upload to the client.

The experimental nature of the grabber is to gain experience of the system 
requirements and limitations, with a view to offering this service long 
term, when I am away from home (which with my present job is very frequent 
at the moment)
If I cant operate, I can at least contribute a little to the experiment.
I am also working towards implementing grabbers for the SHF bands, where 
QRSS is non-existent, some propagation modes are very short lived, and in 
general, things are not quite the same as on 500KHz
Spectrum Labs looks like the best candidate for my goals, but there are 
always more things I would like to do with the concept.
As always, the comments from this group on the functionality or otherwise of 
these systems, is most welcome. After all they are intended for the benefit 
of others as well as giving me a bit of fun.
Regards
Mark GM4ISM






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


> Thanks for the explanation John. I am a little puzzled why Mark
> wanted to update every few seconds for something used to display 3
> sec dot QRSS or slower where it takes several minutes for the trace
> to disappear off the screen.... Your 5 minute update seems far more
> sensible. And you are right, doing it from a server at home on ADSL
> brings the ADSL upload speed into the equation as well, something
> many people forget. Remember that 512kbits/s (NOT Mbits...)
> corresponds to only 40kBYTES/s and that is dead slow for large
> files....
>
> I see now that Mark has reduced his file size and display size which
> has largely solved the issue. But I am puzzled when he said the old
> file was 600kB, what I downloaded was most certainly 1.2Mb!!
>
> Sorry to hear about your antennas John, hope you soon sort it out. I
> worked MM0XAU on 40m on your island yesterday and he didn't mention
> storms, only lousy HF conditions..
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> On 5 Jan 2008 at 10:16, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
>> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> I use the old fashioned way....
>>
>> Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
>> into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).
>>
>> The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
>> screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts
>> at the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's
>> webspace www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new
>> account at www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm
>>
>>
>> The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
>> archive directory on the Linux machine.
>>
>> 5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....
>>
>>
>> Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
>> the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
>> external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
>> >
>>
>>
>>  ditto....
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Wolf,

Well thats working fine ! , thanks for that ! i'm sure a few other stations=20
will be making good use of it , hihi ,

tnx

G ..


----- Original Message -----=20
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> Hello Graham,
>
> you wrote:
>> Ok Wolf,
>>
>> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection=
=20
>> of the soundcard !
>>
>> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card=20
>> , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb=20
>> cable  !
>>
> Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You=20
> will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the=20
> tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the=20
> 2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one=20
> soundcard installed.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
>
>
>
>
>
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David, LF,

G0MRF signal has just appeared on Marks grabber.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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>
> In a message dated 17/01/2008 17:52:36 GMT Standard Time,
> markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk writes:
>
> Cracking  signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
> No sign of MRF, not seen often  here at this hour, and never very strong.
> will try to get the main antenna  working this weekend WX permitting
> Regards
> Mark  GM4ISM
>
>
>
> Hi Mark.
>
> Yes, it's either an 'interesting' distance from London to you and all of 
> my
> signal is somewhere up in the ionosphere, or there is a noise or 
> sensitivity
> issue.
> The MRF beacon seems to get to Birmingham 24/7 and the shetlands between
> dusk in London and about 9.30UTC, which I would guess is a little after 
> dawn on
> the islands.
>
> Interesting though, whatever the cause.
>
> Best wishes
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> 




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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> just worked my first QSO's on 600m:
>
>
Dear Rick, LF group
just a moment ago at 21:47:30 UTC you were audible in , Lodz,Poland  
/jo91rs/ on 503.1 khz
i' ve heard: cq cq cq de or7t or7t   then immediately : or7t de sm6bhz 
sm6bhz
and then it all has gone... (sudden & deep qsb )

                                     73 de peter , sq7mpj



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Hello Laurens,

Paul Harden, NA5N has given some information on an other list.
The purpose is research of the ionosphere by triggering it by a signal 
reflected by the moon.
The goal of this research is to gain a better understanding of propagation 
and a 3D model of the ionosphere.
This should lead to much better (short term) propagation forecasts than 
possible today.
Something we can all benefit from!

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Gents,
The connection here is cable, some  'limits' on the data transfer (325Mb 
upload) 4pm-9pm the upload connection gets throttled back to 128Kb/S, and 
download to 1Mb/S.. normally I am on 4Mb/S and I thing 512 MB/s up
Not sure how often that happens..
The JPG settings were set to max, an I have tweaked these down now, 50% 
quality seem adequate.
I have also reduced the size of the capture window. It seems to default to 
the size of the window displayed, and I had it locked at full screen.
Now reduced to about 800 by 600 The filesize has dropped significantly to 
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I have set the default time for the 2 pages differently too, and added a 
dropdown selection of refresh times
this will be live shortly!
73s
mark GM4ISM

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> Hi Wolf,
>
> Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
> secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
> immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 60 
> secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.
>
> My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb 
> but up & down loads are much slower than that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>>
>> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
>> the bottom of the screen).
>> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
>> rate, there was not a single error.
>>
>> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
>> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>>
>> 73,
>>  Wolf .
>>
>>
>>
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J.B.,

Not sure what was going on. The signal level looks quite low. The 
transmit end was OK, in any case.

JA

J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
> Hi John, Lowfers,
> 
> I tried to copy your Wolf20 transmissions between 6 and 8 but
> there was only these few lines that hinted at what might have
> been your signal:
> 
> t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:131.0 jm:702 q: -8.5 -8.1 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
> t: 816 f:-0.039 pm:142.1 jm:702 q: -8.8 -8.0 840NY008HVRVN3B ?


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Hello LFers & Lowfers,

I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
cedar tree at ground level.

The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
inverted V.

On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
noise on the longwire.  

Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
result, if that's the only option you've got!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???

G ..


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Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800


> Running WOLF Beacon
> 502.8 khz
> 10 bit rate
> (tx usb if that matters?)
>
> Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham
> G0NBD / io83lk
>
>
>
>
>
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GM LFers!
Nice strong signal from DI2BO yet.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello LF group,
wish you all a happy new year!

Copied WX around 136.318KHz the whole night with a strong signal
(http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/wx_020108.jpg).

vy73

Marco
DD7PC

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Thanks for the report John ,  that looks quite good , the test was a carry 
on from last night , Finbar was copying some of the beacon , Ive had no 
report back  from him yet . Looks to  still be a very small 'qso' window in 
the qsb !

tnx

G ..





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ


> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:38:24 -0000
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
>>
>> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>
> Graham, LF
>
> Signal faded up on grabber at around 18:50
>
> Here's a decode from 18:54z
>
>
> RYRWCYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST EDE G0NBD  G0NBEYV0,?$
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQICQIP  TEFT  DEHG0BD  G0NBD G0NBD
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQH OEST  DE G0ND G0NBD G0/,?$
>
> And from 18:56z
>
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ C CQ  TEST SDE G0NBD  G0NBD GGPNBD
> RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST DE 1N$)0/&=?46464646464646 C CQ CQ  EST
> DE G0ND  G0NBD G8NBD
>
>
> Sone errors, but on the whole readable(?)
>
> Cheers
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 09:01
>
> 




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Echos even louder on 7.407.5
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TT-338-BOH-15-FDS-004
=20
Excellent!
=20
Long haul from Eu to SE Asia still pretty poor on 136KHz with attentuated si=
gnals with sharp deep short duration qsb, normally a sign that we are still=20=
being buffed by the sun....lets hope for an equatorial recovery soon.
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
> From: rw3adb@rambler.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Thu, 17 J=
an 2008 03:35:42 +0300> Subject: LF: DJ8WX in Moscow> > Hi Uwe and LF!> > DJ=
8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.> full report in the final=
 of web-page:> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html> > 73!> RW3AD=
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o-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=3D#000000>Excellent!</FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family:=20=
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o-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT color=3D#000000>Long haul from Eu to SE Asia s=
till pretty poor on 136KHz&nbsp;with attentuated signals with sharp deep sho=
rt duration qsb, normally a sign that we are still being buffed by the sun..=
..lets hope for an equatorial recovery soon.</FONT></SPAN><BR>
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<BR><BR>&gt; From: rw3adb@rambler.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g<BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:35:42 +0300<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: DJ8WX i=
n Moscow<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi Uwe and LF!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; DJ8WX 136.319.5 Kh=
z was traced in Moscow this night.<BR>&gt; full report in the final of web-p=
age:<BR>&gt; http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt=
; 73!<BR>&gt; RW3ADB, Roman<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR><br /><hr />Watch =93Ca=
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Dear all,

GI4DPE now audible in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria, 22.45 UTC.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

  "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> schrieb: 
Hello Luc, Finbar is sending his call followed by a dash.He is 30 dB
over my noise floor in Middelburg, JO11tm.However the signal suffers
from heavy fading. Best regards,Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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<body  bgcolor="#ffffff" link="#000000" vlink="#000000" alink="#000080" topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"><font face="Courier New" size=2>Dear all,<BR><BR>GI4DPE now 
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Tnx Peter for the reply !!!!

73  Luc , ON4AOL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Piotr M=C5=82ynarski=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [500] General question


  Luc van Achte wrote:

    Hi LFers .

    Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
    I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0=
EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
    It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
    Anyone ?


    73  Luc



   Hi Luc,
  i had the same problem few weeks ago when i joined the LF group.=20
  your attachments should not  exceed  30 kb  permitted limit
           =20
                                               73 de peter , sq7mpj  (jo91rs=
)
                             =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx Peter for the reply !!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Luc , ON4AOL</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: [500] General=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LFers .</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there a limit on the size to sent a=20=
picture=20
    too the group ;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried two times to send the captur=
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    with the signals from OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .</FONT></D=
IV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Luc</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>&nbsp;Hi Luc,<BR>i had the same problem fe=
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Getting better Mark.
 
I now get down to 505kHz before I lose the screen.
 
I have 5MB download speed here, so perhaps an issue with the number of  users 
at present.
 
Thanks
 
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In a message dated 01/01/2008 18:01:50 GMT Standard Time,  
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Gents, Initial experiments with restricted  bandwidth showed this effect, and 
when I changed the refresh  rate to 5  sec on the java version, it improved. 
so I have just (17:58) changed the  refresh to 10 seconds, and see what 
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If you have the sort of SDR that uses I/Q drive to the soundcard, then it
can be tedious passing the recovered audio out to other software.  It can be
done using a utility called Virtual Audio Cable (VAC)  which effectively
creates an audio patch panel using digital buffers.  VAC sets up additional
virtual soundcards which you then route audio in and out of.

However, its probably easier to just get a second sound card, such as an
external USB one, and cross couple the audio.  They are quite cheap
now.   A USB headset can make a great second or third soundcard as well if
you want a voice input/output for driving SDR transceivers (see the
Radcom Data column this month - judging by the huge hit my website took
yesterday, it looks as if its just out)

The same comments apply to receivers like the SDR-IQ which digitise the
whole 30MHz spectrum, but then use the soundcard to deliver demodulated
audio.  VAC comes into its own here, as well.

Some datamode software can be persuaded to operate in parallel with other
packages, but it can be a bit hit or miss as to which software allows such
operation, and which blocks one process from working properly.

Incidently, I was monitoring the 500kHz band using my SDR-IQ one other night
when there was quite a lot of activity around.  With the maximum 256K FFT
size, I was seeing all the QRSS and CW signals present, plus things either
side of the Am band, in over 10kHz of bandwidth, simultaneously, at sub Hz
resolution.  The supplied Spectravue software is a really good waterfall /
spectrum analysis / Rx driver package, and doesn't use the soundcard at all.

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt

On 16/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
> for LF/QRSS.
> and my problems with my 1792.
> Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
> and Warren for suggestions
> re alternative Rx's.
> The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
> So I have been looking around!
> I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
> 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I
> want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
> The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
> The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
> daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.
> I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
> guess its coming to the end of its production.
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
> digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound
> card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ?
> at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.
>



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<div>If you have the sort of SDR that uses I/Q drive to the soundcard, then it can be&nbsp;tedious passing the recovered audio out to other software.&nbsp; It can be done using a utility called Virtual&nbsp;Audio Cable (VAC) &nbsp;which effectively creates an audio patch panel using digital buffers.&nbsp; VAC sets up additional virtual soundcards which you then route audio in and out of.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>However, its&nbsp;probably easier to just&nbsp;get a second sound card, such as an external USB one, and cross couple the audio.&nbsp; They are quite cheap now.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A&nbsp;USB headset can make a great second or third soundcard as well if you want a voice input/output for driving SDR transceivers (see the Radcom&nbsp;Data column this month - judging by the huge hit my website took yesterday, it looks as&nbsp;if its just out)
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The same comments apply to receivers like the SDR-IQ which&nbsp;digitise the whole 30MHz spectrum, but then use the soundcard to deliver demodulated audio.&nbsp; VAC comes into its own here, as well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Some&nbsp;datamode software can be persuaded to operate in parallel with other packages, but it can be a bit hit or miss&nbsp;as to which software allows&nbsp;such operation,&nbsp;and which blocks one process from working properly.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Incidently, I was monitoring the 500kHz band using my SDR-IQ&nbsp;one other night when there was quite a lot of activity around.&nbsp;&nbsp;With the maximum&nbsp;256K FFT size,&nbsp;I was seeing all the QRSS and CW signals present, plus things either side of the Am band, in over 10kHz of bandwidth, simultaneously, at&nbsp;sub Hz resolution.&nbsp;&nbsp;The supplied Spectravue software is a really good waterfall / spectrum analysis / Rx driver package, and doesn&#39;t use the soundcard at all.
</div>
<div><br>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 16/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">lawrence mayhead</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<br>and my problems with my 1792.
<br>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e&#39;bay lead, and Warren for suggestions <br>re alternative Rx&#39;s.<br>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<br>So I have been looking around!
<br>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <br>
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <br>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won&#39;t tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO 
etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.<br>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
<br>So I am still looking<br>73 Laurie.<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Ed,

     Thank you for the excellent capture!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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  Hi LF.

  good cpy of XGJ and XKO this morning.

  73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Laurie

I've been using the RF-590 for 8 years now as my primary LF/MF receiver with
no problems or complaints. The 1 dB compression and 3rd distortion is on par
with other 'premium' military grade receivers and phase noise rates up there
with the best of the lot. The only negative I've found with this receiver is
filter 'blow by' on extremely strong signals. It's no worse than other
receivers of this type and is caused by limited stop band attenuation of the
mechanical filters. The fix would be to use a tandem set of filters or,
better yet, put a second set of filters just ahead of the detectors. This is
what I've done on homebrew 'contest grade' receivers. But then again...I'm
not using the RF590 for contest work and it has served me well on LF/MF. I
use a GPS referenced 10 MHz standard into the external reference -frequency
accuracy is deadly. Let me know if you have any questions.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message -----
From: "lawrence mayhead" <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: LF: LF Receiver


> Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
> for LF/QRSS.
> and my problems with my 1792.
> Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead,
and
> Warren for suggestions
> re alternative Rx's.
> The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
> So I have been looking around!
> I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins
2050,
> both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to
> take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
> The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
> The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
> daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33
steps.
> I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
> guess its coming to the end of its production.
> So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
> digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer
sound
> card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis
?
> at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
> So I am still looking
> 73 Laurie.
>



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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:37:27 +0100
Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:

> .. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local
> QRM.
>=20
> 73,
>   Wolf DL4YHF
>=20
> (still hoping for xband.. )
>=20

Gus is 599+ here too, but he can't seem to here Rik's replies!

I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...


Cheers,

John

--=20
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Gents,
Clearly visible on the waterfall, there is a signal I can't identify, carrie=
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Gents,
The softrock 40 has sold out and no more kits are planned. Has anybody
looked into what is required to get the version 5 boards working on
505KHz.
73's
Nic
VK2KXN / VK5ZAT
=20

Nic McLean

Installation Supervisor

Tel:  02 99410619

Fax: 02 98139009=20

Mobile:  0417 822 728

  <http://www.foxtel.com.au/preview>=20
=20

Gents,
having now built 2 of the softrock systems, I can recommend them for use
as grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they interface directly with
the PC soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by Spectrum lab (or
software of your choice that supports I & Q input). With a bog standard
soundcard you can get a display of +- 20 odd KHz from the centre freq.
There is no AGC problem, as observed on other grabbers, and current
consumption in minimal (about 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I
had a problem that turned out to be the antenna). I received my kit a
few days before Christmas, so a grabber can be set up in a reasonable
timescale!
These units are available direct from Tony Parks KB9YIG =20
raparks%ctcisp.com <mailto:raparks@ctcisp.com>  $13 inc shipping if I
recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply substitute a cheap 4MHz
crystal for the one supplied) coverage is the 500KHz +- 20 KHz, I have
chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able to distinguish the
close spaced beacons around 505
These are kits and they do use some surface mount components, but the
end result is a compact and highly effective receiver ideally suited to
this application. Mine is even powered directly off the computer 12V
line
It would be great to see a grabber in the deep south, and coverage of
the 505 beacons included, which to me is perhaps the most interesting
aspect of the use for these things
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Dear LF Group

The M0BMU WOLF 20 beacon is now (2210utc) running again on 503.800kHz. Any
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Hi Laurence!

3dx01588.jpg - "O" it's my sygnal dfcw120 shift 0.2 Hz

73
Dmitry
RA3YO
> 
> Ive cached a couple of the more interesting shots of the Circa 136.318 Khz  over the period  window to:-
>  
> http://kl1x.com/3dx01588.jpg
> http://kl1x.com/3dx02186.jpg
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( Visible until 09:10 utc 10:10 loc !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Dear all,

I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,  
guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the  
Shetland grabber.
I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX  
switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays  
and short transmissions.
I will be using my short call: OR7T

73,

Rik

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At 04.42 08/01/2008, you wrote:
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
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>
>73 Warren K2ORS

Having been in the tube/valve/lampe/valvola business, really 
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Hello Andrej ,

OK !   KO45CN  ( 2137 km ) sry for error !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Andrej a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre and lf
>
>> EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )
>
> Thanks. Loc is KO45CN.
> Good cpi WX 136319.5 but some qsb.
> 73! DX EW6GB
>
>
>
>

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Whilst I appreciate your attachment to the Great Man, please desist from
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hope u can read the call signs of the kiwi hams on the polar crossing so
long ago...ted gawn zl2us.....peter mugrew  zl2sp..and niel sanford
zl2aai....peter mulgrew zl2sp was killed on a fatal plane down at the
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Yes, that's a good point.  What has failed on the RA1792,  Laurie.
I've got a service manual for that Rx filed away somewhere.

Andy  G4JNT



On 11/01/2008, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not
> AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030
> which
> has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well
> it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most
> of
> the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
> time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,
> never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite
> expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be "bodged" to put
> the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.
>
> I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie's RX
> they
> are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
> service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily
> !!
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver
>
>
> > Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this
> problem
> > of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at
> all
> !
> >
> > I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
> > listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
> > nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point
> and
> > click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
> > having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've
> just
> > never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
> > enough for QRSS as it is.
> >
> > AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
> > constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod
> and
> is
> > always at fixed gain.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on
> LF.
> > > This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a
> replacement
> > > receiver.
> > > This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> > > for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of
> the
> > > receivers
> > > I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of
> these
> > > receivers
> > > is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the
> pass
> > > band
> > > will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal
> could
> > > quite
> > > disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> > > filter so that
> > > signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> > > de-sensitisation, and this
> > > could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> > > Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> > > Or do I look for another R1792
> > >
> > > 73 Laurie G3AQC
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy  G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
>
>
>


-- 
Andy  G4JNT
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<div>Yes, that&#39;s a good point.&nbsp; What has failed on the RA1792,&nbsp;&nbsp;Laurie.&nbsp; </div>
<div>I&#39;ve got a service manual for&nbsp;that Rx&nbsp;filed away somewhere.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Alan Melia</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">alan.melia@btinternet.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not<br>AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030 which
<br>has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well<br>it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most of<br>the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
<br>time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,<br>never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite<br>expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be &quot;bodged&quot; to put
<br>the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.<br><br>I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie&#39;s RX they<br>are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
<br>service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily !!<br><br>Alan G3NYK<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Andy Talbot&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com">andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com
</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:11 PM<br>Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver<br><br><br>&gt; Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
<br>&gt; of non-switchable AGC?&nbsp;&nbsp;It doesn&#39;t sound like a very healthy trend at all<br>!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most<br>&gt; listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
<br>&gt; nicer to use than the RA1792.&nbsp;&nbsp;And infinitley better to tune with point<br>and<br>&gt; click on the waterfall display.&nbsp;&nbsp;The only thing it suffers from is not<br>&gt; having a clock locked to a master reference.&nbsp;&nbsp; Needs 
66.667MHz and I&#39;ve<br>just<br>&gt; never got round to making a locked clock yet.&nbsp;&nbsp;But its probably stable<br>&gt; enough for QRSS as it is.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
<br>&gt; constant.&nbsp;&nbsp; The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and<br>is<br>&gt; always at fixed gain.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead &lt;<a href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com">
laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>&gt; &gt; This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
<br>&gt; &gt; receiver.<br>&gt; &gt; This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques<br>&gt; &gt; for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of<br>the<br>&gt; &gt; receivers
<br>&gt; &gt; I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp;&nbsp;facility.This means that if one of<br>these<br>&gt; &gt; receivers<br>&gt; &gt; is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the<br>pass<br>&gt; &gt; band
<br>&gt; &gt; will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal<br>could<br>&gt; &gt; quite<br>&gt; &gt; disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital<br>&gt; &gt; filter so that<br>
&gt; &gt; signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce<br>&gt; &gt; de-sensitisation, and this<br>&gt; &gt; could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>&gt; &gt; Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
<br>&gt; &gt; Or do I look for another R1792<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 73 Laurie G3AQC<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a>
<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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Ok Alan,

This is a quartzlock, model 2A . I get a good signal on 198, im using it at 
the moment , be intresting to  se if anyone detects any change in frequency, 
but of course the signal is derived from the 800 hz tone from the sound 
card, so that may drift as well , been running 6 hours so  should be warmed 
up

Using the 'triggering scope' method of comparing frequency's  i can observe 
a change about a fixed point , so ive set for the mid point , which looks to 
be correct , todate im not totally sure what level of 'change' im observing 
.. hihi

G ..


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> Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
> It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
> quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
> measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 
> 10^10
> and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
> direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
> 1250a....very nice.
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>
>
>> Ok Alan,
>>
>> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
>> ppl that is .. not the bbc
>> ... but by how much , im not sure
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>>
>> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> > Alan G3NYK
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
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>> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:26 PM
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>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>> >
>> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>> >
>> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>> >
>> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>> >
>> > tnx - Graham .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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BEACON QRT  0150  HRS

TNX

G ..


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> Ok Alan,
>
> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the 
> ppl that is .. not the bbc
> ... but by how much , im not sure
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>
>
>> Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
>> Alan G3NYK
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:26 PM
>> Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>>
>> Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>>
>> Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>>
>> intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>>
>> tnx - Graham .
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Uwe, LF,
>
> WX tonight from 2010 to 2040utc.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Hi Gary,
thanks for the report/pic. makes 799km.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Hi All, my grabber is now back on line after a short break while I was away.
The UPS failed and my wife had to disconnect it to stop the high pitched 
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Mark GM4ISM 



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Hi Uwe,

> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
> is there a vote against it?
> Regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
are transmitting in the T/A window.

73
Hartmut



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Jean-Pierre,

> What is transmission !
> 20:00 >> 20:30 on ~137.776/137.777
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


EW6GB in QSO with UA4WPF

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Absolutely wonderful!

73
Johan SM6LKM

K2ORS wrote:
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> 
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS



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OK0EMW, DI2AM, SM6BHZ in Moscow last night

full report:
www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html

73!
Roman

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pix is not more up 9-17 kB


* "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> [Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:41:55=20
+0100]:
> Received on 80m dipole:
>
> DI2AM -104dBm
> OK0EMW - 117dBm
>
> Armchair (aural) copy.
>
> Slow QSB
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

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Hello John,

GM4SLV schrieb:
> I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
>
>   
Got a few bits on 502.x a few minutes ago, but 80 meters seems is almost 
dead (within EU) at the time of day. Just an EA5... on 3550 kHz deep in 
the QSB.

Still listening for a short while, now with the FT-897, but soon off for 
zzz...

Cheers,
 Wolf .


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Hello Johan!

I would like to send you a special QSL for reception of OK0EMW signals.
Your address is not in HamCall, so can you give me any information about
it? And what is your QRA locator, please?

GL on 500kHz band!

Lubos, OK2BVG

***********************************************************

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM

Received on 80m dipole:

DI2AM -104dBm
OK0EMW - 117dBm

Armchair (aural) copy.

Slow QSB

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Hi John,

Thanks for the info...
>
> I heard you call on 80m and replied on 502.1. You weren't very strong
> (439 at best) on 80m but then you disappeared completely.
>
> Heard you again just now at 22:39, I called but no reply again.
> Conditions not good on either band?
>
> Better luck another night/
>
> Now QRT
>
>   
... RRR ... I thought I heard my callsign on 502.1 kHz but wasn't 
totally sure. By the time I was ready to transmit on 80 and receive on 
600 m (with an antenna swicth), the QRM had returned. I will try which 
antenna works best for RX on 500 kHz here, either an active E-field 
antenna or magnetic loop, so I can receive permanently on 500 kHz (even 
while transmitting on 80).

So hpe cul,

73,  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Hello Andy,


About the SDR-IQ (I'm also a pleased owner of it)...
> The only thing it suffers from is not having a clock locked to a 
> master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've just never got round 
> to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable enough for QRSS 
> as it is.
I had the same concern when we used it for a 10 GHz radio-astronomy 
experiment. A simple solution without a PLL:

10 MHz (from reference osc)
divided by 3 , then (using analog frequency doublers etc):
 * 2 * 2 * 5  = 66.66666.. MHz

But, especially for LF / MF, the SDR-IQ's clock oscillator is 
surprisingly stable.


Cheers,
   Wolf DL4YHF .

/3  =: 3.33333
66.6666/20  =: 3.33333


>  
> AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume 
> constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod 
> and is always at fixed gain.
>  
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>  
> On 11/01/2008, *lawrence mayhead* <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com 
> <mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes
>     on LF.
>     This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a
>     replacement receiver.
>     This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP
>     techniques
>     for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal.
>     None of the receivers
>     I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one
>     of these receivers
>     is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within
>     the pass band
>     will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak
>     signal could quite
>     disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the
>     digital filter so that
>     signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
>     de-sensitisation, and this
>     could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
>     Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
>     Or do I look for another R1792   
>
>     73 Laurie G3AQC
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt <http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt> 



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Ok Sorry about that , Just had short break , working Chris G3XIZ on rtty
Good signal from him tonight into  merseyside , think thats the best 
overland
dx so  far hihi (two way qso)

Wolf is back on and running till past 2400 hrs ,

Tnx -

Graham ..





----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON 502.800


> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
>> Running WOLF Beacon
>> 502.8 khz
>> 10 bit rate
>> (tx usb if that matters?)
>>
>> Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> Graham
>> G0NBD / io83lk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
>> 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 19:32
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




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Hi Mark, LF,

Just tried the grabber & all is well now, image size just right, refresh in 
1 second, well done.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Gents,
> The connection here is cable, some  'limits' on the data transfer (325Mb 
> upload) 4pm-9pm the upload connection gets throttled back to 128Kb/S, and 
> download to 1Mb/S.. normally I am on 4Mb/S and I thing 512 MB/s up
> Not sure how often that happens..
> The JPG settings were set to max, an I have tweaked these down now, 50% 
> quality seem adequate.
> I have also reduced the size of the capture window. It seems to default to 
> the size of the window displayed, and I had it locked at full screen.
> Now reduced to about 800 by 600 The filesize has dropped significantly to 
> about 90Kb from about 600Kb
> I have set the default time for the 2 pages differently too, and added a 
> dropdown selection of refresh times
> this will be live shortly!
> 73s
> mark GM4ISM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
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>
>> Hi Wolf,
>>
>> Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
>> secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
>> immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 
>> 60 secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.
>>
>> My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb 
>> but up & down loads are much slower than that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>>>
>>> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
>>> the bottom of the screen).
>>> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
>>> rate, there was not a single error.
>>>
>>> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
>>> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>  Wolf .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 




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Hallo Finbar and LFers!
I listened your QSO with Mal, G3KEV. Your signal was 449 / QSB
 
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G3XIZ  RTTY , 502 KHZ 100 P/C  COPY=20

rst  559     no  qsb  good signal=20

Called back on same frequency , no reply :(

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LF,

Who owns the other data signal on about 502.750 KHz.

Unable to decode using available standards !!

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Rick that is surprising as I find them very directional and that the 1000' on the whole 
has worked better than the 2000' but that could just be propagation. The 1000' is N/S 
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Hello,
I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
Freq. ~137.690KHz
I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
calling?

Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
to hear DK8ND.=20

Thanks
Vy73

Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de

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Hi Rik,
......................
> For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to 
> 500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a 
> small antenna.
......................
I use a version of G3YXM/G0MRF  PA (four IRFP450) for 137kHz and 
505kHz. If used
on 505kHz, I have to disconnect the diodes D4 and D5 (G0MRF design). they form
the 1010kHz rectangular drive signal into ?needles?.

????????.
> - values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)
????????
pse see

http://www.uwe-jannsen-dj8wx.de/TX%20equipment.htm

regards and have fun

Uwe/dj8wx







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Hello,
last night here also a good copy of DI2BO.=20
Geri, i think you still running a little bit more power?
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk
Sent: 02 January 2008 22:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO


It is a nice signal, isn=B4t it!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG

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N   class=3D675571607-03012008>Geri, i think you still running a little bit=20=
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N   class=3D675571607-03012008>DD7PC</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Bobal=EDk<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 January 2008 22:36<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks  for  the reception reports from last night. I will be runing the
WOLF 20 beacon again tonight on 503.800kHz from about 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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John,

> I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you 
> think that was happening at your end?

yes, that was happening at my end. The soundfiles were recorded with a
homemade sdr. The LO has only a simple crystal, works good for CW and
QRSS3 but not for WOLF. With this rx I'm recording the whole 500 kHz
band every night between 21:00 and 06:00. When Jim announced the WOLF
transmission I was already sleeping. So I used the recorded soundfiles
for the decoding during the day.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Many thanks for this Tracey!


Quoting Tracey Gardner <tracey.gardner@talktalk.net>:

> According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg
>
> 73s Tracey
>
> He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier her=
e.
> Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss
> his
> locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have th=
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> info for him.
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> 73's
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Hi Lubos, LF,

I will continue with the test transmission until I retire to bed which will 
be about 2300 to 2330 utc.

There may be some short breaks but the transmission will be back continuous 
from 2200 utc.

The CW ID is now 12 wpm.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Hello Gary and LFers!
> I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
> will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
> receiver will be ON.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> *****************************
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Hi LF,
>
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
> 




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I tried a beverage here on 80 M (about 600ft long) and found it quite
directional and low noise,
by the way it was only 1m high and went mainly through dense shrubs and
trees,over clay soil.
I tried a second one on the sea shore only a few feet from salt water and it
was very poor directionally.
Beverage theory seems to require  lossy ground under the ant.
73 Laurie.

On 23/01/2008, Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded
> areas? "...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.
>
> thanks
> Laurence
> Singapore
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:04:25 -0900
> Subject: LF: Low long wires
>
>
>
>
> Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n
> failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground
> just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable
> speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable
> supplied.
>
> Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded
> area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but
> supported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have
> wires up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at
> around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment)
> lake.
>
> So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in
> this type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does
> anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded
> areas?  On the TX side I see this without a lot of  clearing as another
> large TX loop experience - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for
> verticals at the moment.
>
> Laurence
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star
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I tried a beverage here on  80 M (about 600ft long) and found it quite directional and low noise,<br>by the way it was only 1m high and went mainly through dense shrubs and trees,over clay soil.<br>I tried a second one on the sea shore only a few feet from salt water and it was very poor directionally.
<br>Beverage theory seems to require&nbsp; lossy ground under the ant.<br>73 Laurie.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 23/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Laurence KL1X</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">
hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br>&quot;Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas? &quot;...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only.
<br><br>thanks<br>Laurence<br>Singapore<br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:04:25 -0900<br>Subject: LF: Low long wires<br><br><br><br><br>Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n failure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.
<br><br>Im going to put &quot;down&quot; or it is &quot;up&quot; a couple in a heavily birch wooded area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but supported by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wires up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake.
<br><br>So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nbsp;&nbsp;On the TX side I see this without a lot of&nbsp;&nbsp;clearing as another large TX loop experience - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment.
<br><br>Laurence<br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now!<br><br>_________________________________________________________________
<br>Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!<br><a href="http://biggestloser.msn.com/">http://biggestloser.msn.com/</a><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Dear all,

I am looking for short term antenna and TX possibilities on 500 kHz.

For the antenna I have 2 options:

1. a T-antenna 7m high and 10m top
Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.13 Ohm radiation resistance. On 
137kHz the loss resistance was about 140 Ohm (a lot of trees), based 
on Jim's information I expect that it drops to about one third (+/- 
50 Ohm, how convenient) on 500 kHz.
The "gain" should be somewhere around -20dBb.

2. a loop 7m high and 15m long
Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.005 Ohm radiation resistance and 0.35 
Ohm copper loss (using 4mm wire).
If there are no additional losses the "gain" is about -16dBd.
But the loop would be slung through trees and at the lower side about 
0.5m above ground. Any idea what additional losses are to be expected?

The loop will be in east-west so the null will be north-south (sorry 
Gus), what would be OK for the UK, most of Germany and Central Europe 
on surface wave. I guess that for high angle ionospheric propagations 
the nulls will disappear more or less

Figures tell me that loop is as good or better that the T-antenna. 
Anyone to support that or to advice me otherwise ?

For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to 
500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a 
small antenna.
Any experience in that direction ?
In particular:
- what is the efficiency using IRF350's (on 137kHz I get > 80%)
- values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)
- I use a TV HV-transformer core at the output (for balancing and 
matching to 50 Ohm). It works well on 136 kHz, but on 500 kHz ?

An alternative would be to use my TS440. I know that cutting 1 diode 
allows it to transmit over the entire range, but can it be used as 
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Dear all,<br><br>
I am looking for short term antenna and TX possibilities on 500
kHz.<br><br>
For the antenna I have 2 options:<br><br>
<b>1. a T-antenna 7m high and 10m top<br>
</b>Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.13 Ohm radiation resistance. On
137kHz the loss resistance was about 140 Ohm (a lot of trees), based on
Jim's information I expect that it drops to about one third (+/- 50 Ohm,
how convenient) on 500 kHz.<br>
The &quot;gain&quot; should be somewhere around -20dBb.<br><br>
<b>2. a loop 7m high and 15m long<br>
</b>Simulation with MMANA gives a 0.005 Ohm radiation resistance and 0.35
Ohm copper loss (using 4mm wire).<br>
If there are no additional losses the &quot;gain&quot; is about -16dBd.
<br>
But the loop would be slung through trees and at the lower side about
0.5m above ground. Any idea what additional losses are to be
expected?<br><br>
The loop will be in east-west so the null will be north-south (sorry
Gus), what would be OK for the UK, most of Germany and Central Europe on
surface wave. I guess that for high angle ionospheric propagations the
nulls will disappear more or less<br><br>
Figures tell me that loop is as good or better that the T-antenna. Anyone
to support that or to advice me otherwise ?<br><br>
For the TX I would like to adapt my 137 kHz TX (G3YXM-like design) to
500kHz. This would give me enough power to get 1 or 2 Watt ERP with a
small antenna.<br>
Any experience in that direction ? <br>
In particular: <br>
- what is the efficiency using IRF350's (on 137kHz I get &gt; 80%)<br>
- values for the output filter (2 or 3 stage Pi-filter)<br>
- I use a TV HV-transformer core at the output (for balancing and
matching to 50 Ohm). It works well on 136 kHz, but on 500 kHz ?<br><br>
An alternative would be to use my TS440. I know that cutting 1 diode
allows it to transmit over the entire range, but can it be used as low as
500 kHz ?<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<BR>
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Dear Rik,

Thanks for the QSO last night. Your signals are consistently stronger this
evening, and you seem to have stirred up quite a lot of activity on 500! The
band sounds more like 80 metres at the moment!

Stations heard in the last hour or so:- GI4PDN 569, G3DXZ 559, OR7T 569/QSB,
GW4HXO 549/deep QSB, G3ZWH 579, M0KHW 589 (new one for me,) G0MRF beacon.

Great stuff!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: LF: First night on 600m


Dear all,

a short overview of my first night on 600m:
- 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
- reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
- heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)

As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get
QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The
PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's
are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods
short. Output = 120 W.
Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil
at the top. Calculated Rrad = 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so
theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees
close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is
far less, maybe 0.3 W.
Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation
when it is raining.

I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get
interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and
meanwhile I will try to
- build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
- improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).

73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)


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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:38:24 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs 
> 
> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME

Graham, LF

Signal faded up on grabber at around 18:50

Here's a decode from 18:54z


RYRWCYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST EDE G0NBD  G0NBEYV0,?$ 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQICQIP  TEFT  DEHG0BD  G0NBD G0NBD 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQH OEST  DE G0ND G0NBD G0/,?$ 

And from 18:56z

RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ C CQ  TEST SDE G0NBD  G0NBD GGPNBD 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ  TEST DE 1N$)0/&=?46464646464646 C CQ CQ  EST
DE G0ND  G0NBD G8NBD 


Sone errors, but on the whole readable(?)

Cheers
-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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I can see, what looks like a modulated signal  on  503.500  , but what mode 
is it ???

tnx

G .. 




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I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW

 

Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL

www.kc3ol.com

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 137.7772

 

Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45
mins till sun up.
 
Laurence 9V1 LF

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WD2XYW, KC3OL<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Behalf Of </b>Laurence KL1X<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PM<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
Laurence 9V1 LF<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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John,

heard you 559 calling CQ.
Much better than the 339 during our QSO.
Going QRT now, tomorrows wakeup is at 05.00 UTC.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:37:27 +0100
> Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> .. calling ON7YD on 503.1 kHz, cracking signal here, despite local
>> QRM.
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>> 73,
>>   Wolf DL4YHF
>>
>> (still hoping for xband.. )
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>
> Gus is 599+ here too, but he can't seem to here Rik's replies!
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> I'm listening 3551kHz for x-band (TX 502.1kHz) BTW...
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> Cheers,
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> John
>
> --
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Hello Giday,

Thank you for your explanations, I think my problem is local! (just a=20
few km in the neighborhoods) that will be difficult to find, I will see=20
whether I to make raisings little. Let us hope for how that will stop as=20
it came!!!!!

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

gboorerzl3pn a =E9crit :
> Giday there  Jean-Pierre  ..Noise is all part of LF  130=20
> -190khz...generally if it comes in at evening it lets you know the=20
> ionesphere is working down at that frequency ..IT could be some=20
> thousand miles away where it is generated...lightning storms the arc=20
> from a discharge is a very long radiator its the perfect antennae for=20
> low frequency  hihi....during daylite hours noise from lightning=20
> travels also a good distance by ground wave...that big antennae=20
> again...some days smooth noise seems to come from ionesphere...why i=20
> dont no...perhaps its haarp harping about  hi...73s from nucular free=20
> New-Zealand....kia-ora
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:38 AM
> Subject: LF: [137] QRM !
>
>
>> Hello all on LF ,
>>
>> I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
>> the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
>> disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
>> but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
>> because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
>> to see the captures in the file with :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>> --=20
>> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech


73 Warren K2ORS


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John,

Have been testing since 1500 , and oddly the signals looked quite good at 
that time of day on your plot , unlike last night, looks to  of faded out ?

G ..


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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Hi LF,
>>
>> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>>
>> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
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>>
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>
> Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
> in Shetland!
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> Great to hear both sigs at the same time.
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> John
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Graham,

> Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no 
> idea if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, 
> that's unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works , 

Perhaps with the higher ERP's over here we are getting better results, 
as excellent winter-time copy with FEC has been fairly easy over long 
distances.

If suitable ARQ software materializes, we'll be happy to put it through 
its paces. My T/R setup would certainly need some redesigning, first! Clunk!

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Hello Mark,

I guess the problem with the Javascrip refresh method is this:

The javascript begins to update the screen, regardless of the transfer 
speed. Even if the previous update isn't finished, it begins a new 
update. If, for example, the transfer of the image requires 25 seconds, 
but the Javascript tries to update it every 2 seconds, there will be 
endless activity but no new screen because the embedded image is only 
update when it's complete (this reduces flicker, and is the main 
difference between the javascript page, and the simple java-less page 
which updates itself through an html meta tag) .

What Graham could try is to enter a larger value in the "Refresh 
Interval" box at the bottom of the screen (on Mark's "index" page with 
the 500 kHz spectrogram). For example, set the update interval to 30 
seconds (the default was 2 seconds, which was my mistake, because 2 
second refresh only works through a local network).

As long as you permanently see the message "transferrig data from 
82.something" on the bottom of your browser (but never the "Ready"), you 
know that your browser requests the image too often. With 30 second 
refresh, I get a stable periodic refresh from Mark's MF viewer.

If we have a Javascript expert here: Any idea how a Javascript (embedded 
in an HTML document) can detect if all embedded graphics have been 
updated ? In that case, the "refresh" interval could be restarted after 
the previous refresh is finished.


Best regards,
  Wolfgang "Wolf" DL4YHF .

Graham schrieb:
> Mark,
>  
> Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the 
> screen, which is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  
> click on the 'slow' link ..
>  
> Graham ..
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Mark <mailto:markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk>
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
>     *Subject:* LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber
>
>     Gents,
>     Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a
>     new beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of
>     multiple users getting partial images.
>     After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed
>     down, rather as expected.
>     Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
>     The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum
>     height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and
>     many signals were visible last night.
>     I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily
>     on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather
>     permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main
>     antenna.
>      
>     I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV
>     offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration
>     of the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is
>     far enough away from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for
>     the experiment. It is also a testing ground for possible similar
>     systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation indication.
>      
>     any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
>     Regards
>     Mark GM4ISM
>     www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
>     follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber
>     link.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>     1/2/2008 11:29
>



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yes that metheod works well clear of city areas and  clear of ac ground 
currents...our ozie mates a vk7 used that to recieve  kiwi lf sigs on 181.4 
khz  cw freguency nz..normal real time cw  .He was located portable up on Mt 
wellington tasmania ozie..several thousand feet of wire grounded one end and 
fed other..he sent video and sound tapes of our sigs...IT works as a 
magnetic loop..very effective  .LF has gone quiet in zl..many of the old 
timers with lf permits have died or in rest homes..but some old kiwi buggers 
like me keep pressing on...bye george zl3pn timaru ..ps time to sit and look 
at aoraki-mt cook and remember our sir  ed..hes our memories.. kia-ora
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> Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
> I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
> an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
> 3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
> feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
> The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
> a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
> cedar tree at ground level.
>
> The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
> QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
> off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
> and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
> is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
> inverted V.
>
> On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
> with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
> or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
> around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
> The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
> noise on the longwire.
>
> Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
> result, if that's the only option you've got!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>
>
> 




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On Tuesday 08 January 2008 04:42, K2ORS wrote:
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
>

Someone interested in building vacuum tubes?

Here you can download many interesting books about processes and material used 
to make vacuum tubes, including internal use RCA manuals.

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm


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Tnx Paul for the report, condx good tonite. 73 de Mal/G3KEV

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LF

G3KEV 599 calling CQ on 502.5kHz

A big signal atm!

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J.B.,

    I believe that the GAP line of amateur verticals does something very 
similar.

73 Warren K2ORS

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> Hello Lowfers & LFers,
>
> My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
> as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
> very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
> is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.
>
> It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
> the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
> and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
> is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
> the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial 
> line
> which in turn varies the inductance.
>
> Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>
> 



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Okay Rick on ultrasonics...Had a practical experience with that with the bre=
ak up of kidney stones by ultasonics...Called here the lithotrypsey machine=20=
or name like it....they zerode.. in on my kidney stones and smashed them int=
o smaller pieces ..i kept awake and watched the procedure a weird thing but=20=
it works well....73s  george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: water heated by soundwaves


  George,

  ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher frequen=
cy) that change the density of the medium. A complete different mechanism th=
an electromagnetic waves.
  If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and eventual=
ly boil. Nothing to be stunned about.
  Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage is t=
hat the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.
  Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to microw=
ave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very expensive to=20=
build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.

  73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

  At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:

    hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has got=
 a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after a=
 short period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It has s=
tunned professors and science standards...he wont let on much...thats the mi=
llion dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the highfreqency audio electr=
ic current is heating the water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn


  Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more info=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Okay Rick on ultrasonics...Had a practical=20
experience with that with the break up of kidney stones by ultasonics...Call=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>George,<BR><BR>ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like=
=20
  sound, only at higher frequency) that change the density of the medium. A=20
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rgy=20
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o be=20
  stunned about.<BR>Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff.=20=
Big=20
  advantage is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local=20
  heating.<BR>Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternativ=
e"=20
  to microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very=20
  expensive to build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.<BR><BR>73,=
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Dear Group,

The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
to about 184.005 kHz.  Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and
the inductance in the class E TX had to be tuned.

The beacon tranmits a 5 minute QRSS60 message every 15 minutes.

Any signal reports will be greatly appreciated.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Jean-Pierre,

 Thank you for the report!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ




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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
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> Last night i copy  :
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> WD2XGJ ( Good signal )
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> The captures of night are with this URL :
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Decoded from a soundfile:

04:00 UTC
t:  12 f:-1.300 a: 0.4 dp:112.9 ci: 0 cj:410 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  24 f:-1.302 a: 0.5 dp:113.7 ci:15 cj:411 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  48 f:-1.304 a: 0.5 dp:114.2 ci: 0 cj:410 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  96 f:-1.309 pm: 6541 jm:139 q:  5.8  6.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 144 f:-1.309 pm:11458 jm:139 q:  7.8  8.1 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 192 f:-1.309 pm:15344 jm:139 q:  9.0  9.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 240 f:-1.309 pm:19284 jm:139 q: 10.1 10.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 288 f:-1.309 pm:21373 jm:139 q: 10.5 10.6 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 336 f:-1.309 pm:21888 jm:139 q: 10.3 10.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 384 f:-1.309 pm:22043 jm:139 q:  9.9 10.1 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 432 f:-1.309 pm:22189 jm:139 q:  9.9  9.7 M0BMU WOLF 20   -

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hello Luc,

Finbar is sending his call followed by a dash.
He is 30 dB over my noise floor in Middelburg, JO11tm.
However the signal suffers from heavy fading.

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Hi LF-ers

Both signals are audible in J021af

I believe i decoded DI2AM and OK0EMW=20

RX  TS440S    =20
Ant :  home made mini whip
Soft  : SpecLab=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Both signals are audible in J021af</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I believe i decoded DI2AM and OK0EMW </FONT=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX&nbsp; TS440S&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ant :&nbsp; home made mini whip</FONT></DIV=
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Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,
trans- polar routes.
BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don't doubt that several Mw
directed  at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am
surprised
that more people did'nt hear it, is this the purpose ?
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Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,<br>trans- polar routes.<br>BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don&#39;t doubt that several Mw<br>directed&nbsp; at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am surprised
<br>that more people did&#39;nt hear it, is this the purpose ?<br>So I am confused, can anyone help ?<br>73 Laurie <br>

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Hi Garry,
 
559 in IO93cn, band very low noise at the moment.
 
73 de Mike G3YPE



   

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1.1.2008 20.35UTC

Heard G3ROO, G3XIZ and GI4DPE in QSO on 502.6kHz

Discussing tests on 136.5kHz... my CW skills weren't enough to follow at the=
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conversation speed.

All three 559 signals in QSB peaks.


Good beginning of the new year!

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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Dear Wolf, LF Group,

Thanks for  the report from last night. I will run the beacon again on
503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode, from around 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Nw calling cq on 502.4 khz for xband qso de Mal/G3KEV


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Thanks Xtian,
I have ordered some from there and some ferrite rods to make up the
minimum order value.
73=20

Nic McLean


Hello,
The answer is there :
http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php

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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers
for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and
Warren for suggestions
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050,
both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to
take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.
I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I
guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are
digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound
card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ?
at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
So I am still looking
73 Laurie.

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Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<br>and my problems with my 1792.<br>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e&#39;bay lead, and Warren for suggestions
<br>re alternative Rx&#39;s.<br>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<br>So I have been looking around!<br>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.
<br>The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.  <br>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won&#39;t tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO 
etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming 
to the end of its production.<br>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time.
Perhaps Andy can help?<br>So I am still looking<br>73 Laurie.<br> 

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Hello  all on LF ,

Happy new year to everyone !

Last night i copy  :

G3XDV
DF6NM
DJ8WX
EW6GB

WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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GI4DPE is sending only callsign normal CW and a short carrier. You must be h=
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n!!!!!
Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hi LF-ers

  Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
  I heard it very deep in the noise=20

  73's de ON4AOL , Luc
    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Lubos
    GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
    73 Mal/G3KEV

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
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      Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
      Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


      Hallo Finbar and LFers!

      I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

      =20

      Have a nice weekend!

      =20

      Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE is sending only callsign normal CW&n=
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a short carrier. You must be hearing another station sending happy new year=20=
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you have a great imagination!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
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e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
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heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: [500]=20
  GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DP=
E sends=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT>=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73's de ON4AOL , Luc</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:=
26=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [500]=20
    GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode a=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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      PM</DIV>
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GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hallo Finbar and=20
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can see your signal quite=20
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
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LF

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss h=
is
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:08:58 -0000
> "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Does anyone have an e-mail address for Doug, G3ZWH? I had a QSO with
> > him earlier, and said I would send him some info.
>
>
> I'd also appreciate the info as I've heard him several times over the
> last week or so and despite many, many calls he's always failed to hear
> me. At least an email would let him know he's making the trip to the
> outer reaches of the Empire!
>
> I suppose a QSL to the address listed on QRZ.COM would also suffice.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
>




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Gents,
having now built 2 of the softrock systems, I can recommend them for use as=20=
grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they interface directly with the PC=
 soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by Spectrum lab (or software of=20=
your choice that supports I & Q input). With a bog standard soundcard you ca=
n get a display of +- 20 odd KHz from the centre freq. There is no AGC probl=
em, as observed on other grabbers, and current consumption in minimal (about=
 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I had a problem that turned out to be=
 the antenna). I received my kit a few days before Christmas, so a grabber c=
an be set up in a reasonable timescale!
These units are available direct from Tony Parks KB9YIG  raparks%ctcisp.com=20=
$13 inc shipping if I recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply substi=
tute a cheap 4MHz crystal for the one supplied) coverage is the 500KHz +- 20=
 KHz, I have chosen to display only 501 to 509 so as to be able to distingui=
sh the close spaced beacons around 505
These are kits and they do use some surface mount components, but the end re=
sult is a compact and highly effective receiver ideally suited to this appli=
cation. Mine is even powered directly off the computer 12V line
It would be great to see a grabber in the deep south, and coverage of the 50=
5 beacons included, which to me is perhaps the most interesting aspect of th=
e use for these things
substitute @ for % on Tony's email address.
Cheers
Mark GM4ISM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave Pick=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 grabbers


  Chaps

  On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 i=
s on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit a=
nd display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the=
 bottom before!)=20

  73

  --=20
  G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>having now built 2 of the softrock systems,=
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recommend them for use as grabbers. Being image cancelling systems they=20
interface directly with the PC soundcard and all the clever stuff is done by=
=20
Spectrum lab (or software of your choice that supports I &amp; Q input). Wit=
h a=20
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freq. There is no AGC problem, as observed on other grabbers, and current=20
consumption in minimal (about 35mA inc a preamp which I fitted when I had a=20
problem that turned out to be the antenna). I received my kit a few days bef=
ore=20
Christmas, so a grabber can be set up in a reasonable timescale!</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These units are available direct from Tony=20=
Parks=20
KB9YIG&nbsp; <A href=3D"mailto:raparks@ctcisp.com">raparks%ctcisp.com</A>&nb=
sp;$13=20
inc shipping&nbsp;if I recall, for the 455KHz version (you then simply=20
substitute a cheap 4MHz crystal&nbsp;for the one supplied) coverage is the=20
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to=20
distinguish the close spaced beacons around 505</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are kits and they do use some surface=
 mount=20
components, but the end result is a compact and highly effective receiver=20
ideally suited to this application. Mine is even powered directly off the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be great to see a grabber in the d=
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most interesting aspect of the use for these things</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>substitute @ for % on Tony's email=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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I dont think so  .. he is sending his call , followed by a long carrier burs=
t ,  there is 'no'  data in the burst=20

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20

  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hi LF-ers

  Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DPE sends happy newyear in CW ?
  I heard it very deep in the noise=20

  73's de ON4AOL , Luc
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: mal=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:26 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


    Lubos
    GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
    73 Mal/G3KEV

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
      Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


      Hallo Finbar and LFers!

      I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

      =20

      Have a nice weekend!

      =20

      Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont think so&nbsp; .. he is sending his=20=
call ,=20
followed by a long carrier burst ,&nbsp; there is 'no'&nbsp; data in the bur=
st=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora.b=
e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
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"><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:11=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: [500]=20
  GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF-ers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible that the beacon from GI4DP=
E sends=20
  happy newyear in CW ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard it very deep in the noise </FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73's de ON4AOL , Luc</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV       style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:=
26=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [500]=20
    GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode a=
ll day=20
    at NORMAL CW not qrs.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz         href=3D"mailto:lubomir.boba=
lik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008=20=
6:06=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
GI4DPE_beacon</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hallo Finbar and=20
      LFers!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can see your signal quite=20
      soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P=
>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have a nice=20
      weekend!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN         style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lubos, OK2BVG,=20
      JN88KS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
      <P>
      <HR>

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Giday there  Jean-Pierre  ..Noise is all part of LF  130 -190khz...generally 
if it comes in at evening it lets you know the ionesphere is working down at 
that frequency ..IT could be some thousand miles away where it is 
generated...lightning storms the arc from a discharge is a very long 
radiator its the perfect antennae for low frequency  hihi....during daylite 
hours noise from lightning travels also a good distance by ground 
wave...that big antennae again...some days smooth noise seems to come from 
ionesphere...why i dont no...perhaps its haarp harping about  hi...73s from 
nucular free New-Zealand....kia-ora
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: LF: [137] QRM !


> Hello all on LF ,
>
> I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
> the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
> disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
> but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
> because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
> to see the captures in the file with :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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As many of you know, Jay Rusgrove and I have been running tests on a 
variety of keyboard modes for use in the 500 kHz area. Our focus has 
been on modes that work well for casual QSO's and possibly emergency 
communication. Resistance to noise and fading has been a prime 
consideration.

While this is a work in progress, I have posted an article at:
http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm

Comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks very much to all who have 
participated in the tests!

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George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS on=20=
an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundown=20=
Singapore-17Z sunrise ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to Wellington=
.
=20
If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear fro=
m anyone....
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
Singapore
http://kl1x.xom


From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nzTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sun, 20 J=
an 2008 22:11:46 +1300Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium



Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a qui=
et period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz...ss=
b is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundwaves=
 thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox duri=
ng equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found on lo=
nger distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or dusk.=
..strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7 you=20=
can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband no ca=
rrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird but t=
hat what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Laurence KL1X=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium
George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mode/=
times etc WIth thanks Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia


From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nzTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 19 J=
an 2008 20:37:10 +1300Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500K=
HZ.. 73S GEORGE

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George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS on=20=
an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundown=20=
Singapore-17Z&nbsp;sunrise&nbsp;ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to=20=
Wellington.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear fro=
m anyone....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
Singapore<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.xom">http://kl1x.xom</A><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down her=
e and lf goes into a quiet period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc t=
hursday is 181.4khz...ssb is on 182.7 lsb&nbsp; usally sunday mornings where=
 we bounce strong groundwaves thru mountain ranges with ease...long range ar=
go sigs on 136 khz aprox during equinox times&nbsp; sigs get into canada and=
 russia areas..we have found on longer distance propagation peaks when one s=
ide of contact is in dawn or dusk...strange things happen on ssb when ioensp=
here is working down at 182.7 you can get extreme selective fading..u can sw=
itch then to double sideband no carrier and the chap picks out which side is=
 the strongest..sounds weird but that what happens on lf..if ioensphere kick=
s in...73s george zl3pn</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 P=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgi=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in Z=
L ie freq mode/times etc<BR>&nbsp;<BR>WIth thanks<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence 9M/G=
4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz=20=
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 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500KHZ.. 73S GEORGE</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Jim,

Glad to receive you from my home QTH on 500 kHz for the very first time.
One of the neighbours moved out, and he seems to have taken the 
strongest source of QRM with him ;-)

Here we are (time in UTC):

2008-01-22 22:14:15 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 2 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-1.282 a: 0.7 dp: 43.9 ci: 0 cj:  0 AZ9KBCOCPQA*WIK ?
t:  24 f:-0.267 a: 0.7 dp: 42.7 ci:10 cj:455 1JMKBZ???QHYIRJ ?
t:  48 f:-0.267 a: 0.7 dp: 41.8 ci:14 cj: 82 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t:  96 f:-0.273 pm:0.534 jm:796 q: -2.0 -0.9 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 144 f:-0.254 pm:1.119 jm:796 q:  1.6  1.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
t: 192 f:-0.254 pm:1.885 jm:796 q:  2.5  2.5 M0BMU WOLF 20   -


Good luck everyone,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
> from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
> 2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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Laurie,

   From among my own receivers, I find that the Cubic 3280 is a very good DS=
P receiver AND you can shut the AGC off.
For non-DSP, the newer RACALs such as the 6830 work great and have switchabl=
e AGC.
An SLM such as the 3586 is a good choice if all you don't need an AM detecto=
r.

I agree with the comments on the R75 and AOR 7030- but both benefit from add=
ing the cw filters.

If price is no object QST claims that the Icom R-9500 is one of the best eve=
r in terms of strong signal handling (though I can't confirm this from perso=
nal experience yet).

73 Warren K2ORS


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:45 PM
  Subject: LF: LF Receiver


  I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
  This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement re=
ceiver.
  This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques=20
  for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the=
 receivers=20
  I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these=
 receivers=20
  is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass=20=
band=20
  will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could=20=
quite
  disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filt=
er so that=20
  signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisa=
tion, and this=20
  could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
  Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
  Or do I look for another R1792   =20

  73 Laurie G3AQC

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Laurie,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; From among my own receivers, I=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For non-DSP, the newer RACALs such as the 6=
830 work=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An SLM such as the 3586 is a good choice if=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with the comments on the R75 and AO=
R 7030-=20
but both benefit from adding the cw filters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If price is no object QST claims that the I=
com=20
R-9500 is one of the best ever in terms of strong signal handling (though I=20
can't confirm this from personal experience yet).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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Joe,

Based on what I could see this morning, the actual frequency is 184.006 
kHz. Any EU receptions would be limited to the period when Europe 1 on 
183 kHz is off the air. Since they sometimes run a 1 kHz tone during 
that period, don't forget to turn your speakers down!

John Andrews, W1TAG

jcraig@mun.ca wrote:
> Dear Group,
> 
> The frequency of the QRP LF beacon has moved from 189.9497 kHz
> to about 184.005 kHz.  Both the aerial (0.95 to 1.00 mH) and

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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( vy good copy )

Nil of Europ/Asia

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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yes trees will work as lf antennaes..not recomended for trans mitting though 
..not in clean green new-zealand...different ways to couple into trees using 
ferrite  rods....a good sniffer on lf is a few ferrite bc rods wound and 
resonated  onto frequency required..link coupled into a coax cable or even 
elcheapo flat twin power flex..hook other end onto reciever or convertor 
..then place ferrite loop sniffer near different things and here what 
recieves lf....even the humble metal water pipe feeding house water supply 
can pick up all lf beacons in nz.....the sniffer also works great tracking 
where u have buried the thousand and one ground radials in the ground used 
for vertical lf set ups..the current loops the grounding is not that 
important..that will do from me..just built my hf amp 813s as rsgb hand book 
so back to that...heard a whistba i may get 500khz permit...nextweek  well 
never..george zl3pn    hooray for now
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> Hi Peter, Rik, LFers,
>
> Thanks for modeling my fenceline longwire and sharing the results.
> I appreciate any input/comments on the antenna, but I have to say
> that I'm rather surprised that nobody questioned or commented
> on my unusual "ground".  Apparently tree roots of conifers can
> be pressed into service when frozen ground prevents driving
> in the usual "earthing stakes".
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
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> EN93dr
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In a message dated 17/01/2008 17:52:36 GMT Standard Time,  
markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

Cracking  signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
No sign of MRF, not seen often  here at this hour, and never very strong.
will try to get the main antenna  working this weekend WX permitting
Regards
Mark  GM4ISM



Hi Mark.
 
Yes, it's either an 'interesting' distance from London to you and all of my  
signal is somewhere up in the ionosphere, or there is a noise or  sensitivity 
issue.
The MRF beacon seems to get to Birmingham 24/7 and the shetlands between  
dusk in London and about 9.30UTC, which I would guess is a little after dawn on  
the islands.
 
Interesting though, whatever the cause.
 
Best wishes
 
David



   

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Luc van Achte wrote:

> Hi LFers .
>  
> Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
> I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from 
> OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
> It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
> Anyone ?
>  
>  
> 73  Luc
>  
>  
>  

 Hi Luc,
i had the same problem few weeks ago when i joined the LF group.
your attachments should not  exceed  30 kb  permitted limit
         
                                             73 de peter , sq7mpj  (jo91rs)
                           


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Luc van Achte wrote:<br>
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a picture too the group ;</font></div>
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Hello John,

sorry to hear that your antennat came down in the storm. I know the feeling,
I have lost my LF/MF antennas during heavy winds a couple of times (if your
antennat didn't comedown during the last storm it was not yet high enough
;-) ... hope you are able to set it up soon.


Your grabber si very helpful to me to observe the signal variations of DI2BO
on 505.015 kHz.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


>
> Hello LF group,
>
> Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
> QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
> busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.
>
> Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
> damage.
>
> Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
> (not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
> 10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
> even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
> 4 levels from 2m up to 11m.
>
> This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
> snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
> lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
> replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.
>
> The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
> venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
> abates...
>
>
> Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
> key) in the near future.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>



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LF

G3KEV 599 calling CQ on 502.5kHz

A big signal atm!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hello Jim.
 
F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
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The station has reverted to LF 136.318 /137.777 KHz windows on improving con=
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The station has reverted to LF 136.318 /137.777 KHz&nbsp;windows on improvin=
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Hi David, LF,

Just for your benefit I will increase the wpm to 12 then you can read the CW 
ID. HI. HI.

Thanks for the report.
Also thanks for reports to John GM4SLV & Mike G3YPE.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Received at S7 at Leeds, Gary, but too slow to read by conventional means. 
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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 > PS- Why is my emails with attached files don't send via reflector? The
 > pix is not more up 9-17 kB

Roman,

I don't know... The reflector has a size limit for attachments, about 40kB I 
think, but I don't know if this limit is the actual file size or the size of the 
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, my first 500k report from Finland!

73
Dave G3YXM

On 05/01/2008, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
>
> Hello LF!
>
> G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC
> G3KEV 579 replying to him on 502.6kHz
> G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier
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> 73's
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> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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Thanks Paul-Henrik, my first 500k report from Finland!<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 05/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Paul-Henrik</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:phl@netikka.fi">phl@netikka.fi
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello LF!<br><br>G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC<br>G3KEV 579 replying to him on 
502.6kHz<br>G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier<br><br>73&#39;s<br><br>Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ<br>Vaasa / KP03SD<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Gents.
clearly visible on peaks of QSB for the first time, DI2BO in QRSS, weak but=20=
visible just below OK0EMW, DI2AG and DI2AM,=20
signals seen on 503 earlier from G0NBD and briefly MRF copied on QRSS. G3KEV=
 earlier still was 20dB over noise on CW
Finbar's beacon peaking 40dB over noise..wow!
All this with the telescopic mast fully collapsed, vertical section about 5m=
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Hi Laurie
  It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. Its much better than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!
  I have been using a Tony Parks KB9YIG Soft Rock SDR RX (about Ł20 kit from WS) for some time now.  I use the excellent free SDR application software from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with Cescos  HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL) VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTEs Multpsk 4.2 decoder software.  Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only the one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay. I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and 96kHz using a high quality int /ext  Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are only about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon frequencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellent mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they are not standard in the Soft rock kit range.
  Good luck,  its been great following the various replies I hope you go for the Soldering Iron and software option. 
  Many thanks to all the Radio Amateurs listed above for making their fantastic work available to us. This great body of work makes my hobby so interesting at a ridiculously low cost.
  Vy 73 to all HNY de petefmt


lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.
and my problems with my 1792.
Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for suggestions 
re alternative Rx's.
The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
So I have been looking around!
I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. 
The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. 
The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.
So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
So I am still looking
73 Laurie.


       
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<div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Hi Laurie</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>It is great to see a technical discussion on the reflector. Its much better than using the reflector as purely the return path of a one way VLF qso!</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>I have been using a </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Tony Parks KB9YIG </SPAN><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Soft Rock SDR RX (about Ł20 kit from WS) for some time now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I use the excellent free SDR application software from Duncan Munro M0KGK 1.1 with </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cescos </SPAN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>HB9TLK.DLL (Loop.DLL)
 VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) software link to Patrick Lindecker F6CTEs Multpsk 4.2 decoder software.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soft Rock does use the IQ sound card input but this way only the one card is needed. The results are incredible for such a small out lay. I think this setup outperforms most conventional RX in terms of selectivity and ease of use over a limited spectrum, 48kHz using built in soundcards and 96kHz using a high quality int /ext<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Soundcard. 136 and 500 kHz bands are only about 3 kHz wide so it gives ample coverage of the EU and US beacon frequencies as well. Please also note that Jim Moritz M0BMU has done an excellent mod to the current Soft rock 6.2 kit that gives these two bands as they are not standard in the Soft rock kit range.</FONT></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Good luck, &nbsp;its been great following the various replies I
 hope you go for the Soldering Iron and software option. </FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Many thanks to all the Radio Amateurs listed above for making their fantastic work available to us.&nbsp;This great body of work&nbsp;makes my hobby so interesting at a ridiculously low cost.</FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri size=3>Vy 73 to all HNY de petefmt</FONT></div><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers for LF/QRSS.<BR>and my problems with my 1792.<BR>Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, and Warren for suggestions <BR>re alternative Rx's.<BR>The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.<BR>So I
 have been looking around!<BR>I have flirted with the possibility of&nbsp; the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap. <BR>The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off. <BR>The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps. I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I guess its coming to the end of its production.<BR>So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up&nbsp; processing&nbsp; I/Q signals can it&nbsp; also&nbsp; do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?<BR>So I am still looking<BR>73 Laurie.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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Seeing about 4 Hz doppler shift in CT:

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James Moritz wrote:

>Dear LF Group,
>
>Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
>from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
>2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
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Hi Jim, LF group
It  was another evening/night  of successful reception  of your WOLF 20 
bit rate transmission.
just to save space  i 've confined  my all screens to the latest one  
including date and time(utc)
and number of necessary iterations  to get a  correct copy:
2008-01-23 00:49:49 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 600 -t 2 -w 0.0000
..................................................
t: 384 f:-0.078 pm:124.2 jm:266 q: -5.5 -5.9 MXCNG9G P92U0   -
t: 432 f:-0.078 pm:140.3 jm:266 q: -4.8 -5.4 M0BMU WOLF 20   -
my RX setup is exactly the same as described in one of my previous posts 
with   reception report
of  DJ8WX beacon on 137 kHz  except  changed coils  in LC resonating 
circuits.
when the WOLF transmission was in a '10 bit' mode i  got negative copy 
though i have tried only once
 and only one hour or so, therefore ,  there is no statistics needed for 
any reasonable conclusion,
However, at least one observation can be made from my point of view. due 
to my absolutely modest antennae conditions
 with respect to   137 a 500 kHz ( a small loop  inside a noisy 
environment)  the WOLF seems to be a 'state-of-the-art"  among
 wide variety  of weak signal ( and narrow band) modulations. in fact it 
is !  with its lowest S/N  positive  'detection'.
many times i tried to  get a copy of  G stations  TX'ing in different 
modulations  once i even traced Mal, KEV using his favourite
i.e normal CW speed [ :) ] on 502.5 KHz but i never succeeded in correct 
copy  of any modulation  from a transmitting G station until
recent Jim's transmissions. ( the qrb is 1350 km)  So,  my proposal  is 
to put for a day or two another extremely weak signal 'technique'
 i.e JT2 or JT4 mode in a beaconing fashion.   Ok, i know that for most 
of you it will not be necessary  to use the 'bottom-line' and sometimes
 plain CW will suffice to make a qso on LF,MF bands but for me  to get  
that far as G looks like a real TA challenge, hi.
BTW , which G station operates qrss in a beacon mode on 600 meters?

                                                                              
73 de peter, sq7mpj         /jo91rs/




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Finaly managed qso, rtty/rtty !=20
must be the longest over land non linea  rtty yet :)

G ..=20
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  G3XIZ  RTTY , 502 KHZ 100 P/C  COPY=20

  rst  559     no  qsb  good signal=20

  Called back on same frequency , no reply :(

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Hmm...

I make his locator to be JO01FH. (Very close to JO01JG, it has to be said)

Take his Post Code or street name from QRZ.com, and plug it into Flash
Earth, and you can see that Doug's road starts at 51d 19m 14s North, 000d
26m 7s E and runs south to 51d 19m 26s N, 000d 25m 57s E.

http://www.flashearth.com/

Drop these latitudes/longitudes into a Locator program such as the G3NPF
Locator Calculator, and they both fall within the JO01FH descriptor.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~a.wadsworth/index.htm

Sadly, it is not possible to calculate an e-mail address from a Lat/Long!

You'll have to drop him a QSL card instead..

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Tracey Gardner
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According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg

73s Tracey

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss
his
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD






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Hi Mike the problem with this is it becomes a narrow band antenna which is
not what JB wants.....It also destroys its action as a "travelling wave"
antenna. It will then be a heavily top-loaded but very low "L" . It might
even be worse than as it is !! I dont know what happens if he uses
distributed loading, it then looks like a low-pass filter!!

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> What if JB put a big loading coil in the fence wire? I would think that
> would work just like our loaded short verticals...Sure there would be
> losses but we have losses in our transmitting antennas also.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>
> Rik Strobbe wrote:
> > J.B. ,
> >
> > I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> > On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset
> > angle.
> > But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
> > offset angle is 78 degrees.
> > It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be
> > long  on 500kHz ...
> > Or does MMANA not work properly ?
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
>



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Jim

Thanks for the info. I've been watching but so far no joy. 

Jay

 
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> Dear Jay, LF Group,
> 
> Normally I leave the beacon running until the morning - around 0900utc. I
> hope to be putting out some kind of signal most nights until my 500k
> experimental permit expires on February 29th.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> > Jim
> >
> > What time do you normally shut down?
> >
> > Jay
> 
> 


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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:09:35 +0100
Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

> Dear Ha-Jo and all,
> 
> I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not
> solved. I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the
> 500kHz antenna. If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Thanks for the QSO Rik!

Nice signal up here in Shetland a good 569 by ear, pity to only get 339
from you, but that's enough to make the first GM-ON in-band QSO on
500kHz!

Congratulations and good luck on MF,

John
Gm4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Graham, LF,

I have been watching your signal via Shetland & have noticed QSB has set in 
now it is dark. So Skip has changed quite noticably.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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> John,
>
> Have been testing since 1500 , and oddly the signals looked quite good at 
> that time of day on your plot , unlike last night, looks to  of faded out 
> ?
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
>> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi LF,
>>>
>>> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>>>
>>> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
>> in Shetland!
>>
>> Great to hear both sigs at the same time.
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>> Clousta
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lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>     So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but
>     these are digital, can the AGC be turned off?

  In a SDR receiver, the possibility to turn OFF the AGC is a software function, so, in case it is not implemented, just 
ask the author of the program...

>     and another problem if
>     my computer sound card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it 
>     also  do the FFT analysis ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?

  This is a common misconception... the sound card in a SDR receiver does NOT do any processing, nor FFT computations... 
they are all made by the central CPU, be it a Pentium or an Athlon.... the ONLY function of the sound card is to 
digitize the input signal (at least in the Tayloe mixer type of SDR) and to playback the demodulated audio.
So the only very important characteristic of a sound card is the quality of its ADC converter.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi Rik, LF,

Congratulations to Belgian amateurs on gaining access to the 500KHz band, 
same frequency allocation as UK but you have a QRO limit compared with our 
100mW ERP.

I will look out for your signals in near future.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Dear all,
>
> today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  use 
> the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  so 
> including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
> I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
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Hi Graham, yes ok, I have a Halcyon and that unlocks sometimes after dark.
It may be due to noise and the use of the internal ferrite rod. There are
quite big phase shifts after dark sometimes, and there is (was last time I
measured it) a slight sytematic wobble, but it is only a few parts in 10^10
and has a period of around 1000secs. I dont think I would use mine for a
direct standard without a better aerial. Short term standard is an Austron
1250a....very nice.
Alan

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> Ok Alan,
>
> Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the
> ppl that is .. not the bbc
> ... but by how much , im not sure
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
> > Alan G3NYK
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:26 PM
> > Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
> >
> > Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
> >
> > Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
> >
> > intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
> >
> > tnx - Graham .
> >
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Strong, up to S7, RTTY signal to the West of me I believe, 138.965/139.040KH=
z  Still coming in at 1 hour after my sunrise @ 23Z
DCF39 still very deep qsb and weaker than "normal" - 10 db short peak before=
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Strong, up to S7,&nbsp;RTTY signal to the West of me I&nbsp;believe, 138.965=
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DCF39 still very deep qsb and weaker than "normal" - 10 db short peak before=
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Hello Oms!
Direct signal from HAARP is very strong here.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Fabian Kurz
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:28 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce
Experiment

On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:12:33AM -0500, Jay Rusgrove wrote:
> Argo plot here:
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Nice!

FWIW, this is all I can see in JO61ua:

http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/haarp.png

It's only the direct signal, the moon is below the horizon here
already.

73,
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Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/

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Jose,

   Great !  Thank you,!
Evidently some ionospheric bending as I suspected, there are two other repor=
ts from Europe as far as I know.

Please send your report to:
mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu

73 Warren K2ORS


 =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jose Manuel=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experim=
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  Warren and all,

  Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=
=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler effect.

  Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse, b=
ut always visibles.


  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



  ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:01 PM
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    perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively som=
e 'horizon gain'?

    73 Warren K2ORS


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Great !&nbsp; Thank you,!</FON=
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Twice now this evening ,  copied G0MRF , fast cw ID from the sets speaker, 
now that's a first  !!!!

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Hi Uwe and LF!

DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
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Hello Lowfers & LFers,

My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.

It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial line
which in turn varies the inductance.

Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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EN93dr

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Hallo Gus!
That is a very good info, congratulation!
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gus
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:02 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500 kHz/BHZ
 
Hi all,
 
I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we 
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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g] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gus<br>
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2008
1:02 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500 kHz/BHZ</spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Tim=
es New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I want to inform you
about my new license on 500 kHz.<br>
<br>
Freq&nbsp; 501 kHz to 507 kHz.<br>
CW/Data mode.<br>
Power 20W EMRP<br>
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11<br>
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)<br>
<br>
This license is for a periode of 4 year and end after WRC11 when we <br>
hopefully get a bandsegment permanent on 500 kHz.<br>
<br>
Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hello Jim,

Not the impressive "copy-after-12-seconds" as Hartmut often receives 
you, but fb :

2008-01-26 22:01:33 >WOLF20  -r 11101.068 -f 650 -t 1 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-0.914 a:-0.2 dp: 43.7 ci: 9 cj:106 ???BER30*RPUGU3 ?
t:  24 f:-0.901 a:-0.6 dp: 41.0 ci:15 cj: 41 K2GUWYO1*9WDFUK ?
t:  48 f:-0.908 a:-0.3 dp: 42.9 ci: 0 cj: 40 PFU8ROYE1W/CEJV ?
t:  96 f: 0.234 pm:0.794 jm:726 q: -2.7 -4.1 M0BMU WOLF BCN  -


Cheers,
  Wolf(-gang) DL4YHF .

James Moritz schrieb:
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I will be running  the beacon again tonight - WOLF 20 mode, 503.800kHz, from
> about 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi Uwe, not really a vote against it unless we know why ?? You will not be
heard in the States or Russia either .....I have operated in this area but
only with microwatts to reach Hartmut's grabber. Realy I was thinking the
only reason might be a DX station asking for that frequency??

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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To: "uwe-jannsen@versanet.de" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Hi Uwe,
>
> > I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
> > is there a vote against it?
> > Regards
> > Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>



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Where has Jack gone, not hrd him for a while.
73 de Mal/G3KEV


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )

DJ8WX

Nil on american continent

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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Hello Dave and all,

yes, good activity tonight.
I worked GI3PDN, G3DXZ, M0KDW, G3XVL and GW4HXO.
4 countries in 2 days ... 96 to go ;-)
Heard: G3AQC, G3ZWH and G0MRF beacon in CW

It had been raining all morning, as I tuned the antenna current was =20
down to 1.3 A (1.4 A yesterday). Wet greenery is more lossy than dry =20
greenery ... I knew that already from 137 kHz.
As I has still 30 minutes daylight I added second earth stake, antenna =20
current went up to 1.55 A. So in dry weather I should have abt 1.7 A.
ERP should be close to 0.5 Watt.

At 22 UTC I disconnected the variometer and loosened the antenna =20
(supported by 2 trees), as WX-prediction gives wind up to 100km/h =20
tomorrow.
I guess I won't be QRV tomorrow. But WX should calm down by Friday and =20
stay so the weekend.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear Rik,
>
> Thanks for the QSO last night. Your signals are consistently stronger this
> evening, and you seem to have stirred up quite a lot of activity on 500! T=
he
> band sounds more like 80 metres at the moment!
>
> Stations heard in the last hour or so:- GI4PDN 569, G3DXZ 559, OR7T 569/QS=
B,
> GW4HXO 549/deep QSB, G3ZWH 579, M0KHW 589 (new one for me,) G0MRF beacon.
>
> Great stuff!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
> Sent: 30 January 2008 08:31
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: First night on 600m
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> a short overview of my first night on 600m:
> - 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
> - reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
> - heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)
>
> As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get
> QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
> TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The
> PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's
> are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods
> short. Output =3D 120 W.
> Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil
> at the top. Calculated Rrad =3D 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so
> theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees
> close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is
> far less, maybe 0.3 W.
> Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
> Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation
> when it is raining.
>
> I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get
> interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and
> meanwhile I will try to
> - build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
> - improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
> That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hello Uwe!
QTH-loc UA4WPF - LO66pu
73


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Hello Laurie!

I think you will find all the info you will need on the Racal is available f=
or
download here:

http://www.premium-rx.org/racal_ra-1792.htm


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>:

> Many thanks for all the replies to my mail. I have looked at the spec. for
> the AOR 7030
> and it certainly  looks fine, but I am put off by the Menu  operating
> system.
> I liked the Racal it was simple to set- up and worked well until it went
> wrong. I have
> looked for a replacement but they don't seem to be around any more. Andy,
> the problem
> is that it has lost its audio ! other functions seem to be OK. I could
> probably have a go at
> repair but a circuit diagram would be essential.
> 73 Laurie G3AQC
>




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Hi Mal ,

Sorry , but at the moment i cannot be QRV on HF. No antennes are present .
Maybe later when the weather comes better .

73 de ON4AOL ,Luc

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Luc
  I am now on normal cw 502.5 if u hear me call on 3533 khz
  73 Mal/G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
    No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


    Luc , ON4AOL


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Hello
In France we where at least two listeners , with good copy !

73
Xtian / F1VL


Costas Krallis SV1XV a =E9crit :
> At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:
>
>  =20
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX  , G3XDV , WD2XKO

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
















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Hi Gary,

You wrote:
> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>
Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
the bottom of the screen).
I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
rate, there was not a single error.

There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.

73,
  Wolf .



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I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.

Reports welcomed.

Mike, G3XDV.
==========



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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Decoding your WOLF signal now - frequency appears to be 502.7980kHz, which
is quite a long way off nominal for this mode. It could be down to either TX
frequency accuracy, or sound card sample rate, or both. Both need to be
calibrated accurately for this mode to work properly.

I will run the M0BMU beacon again tonight from approximately 2230utc, WOLF
10 mode, 503.800kHz. Any reports would be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Ok wolf, looks like the set up is working ? might of been 'messing about'
> but its running now,  hopefully should be ok , tx should be stable ,
> soundcard is a isa awe64 , been on 3 hors , so , see what happens ..
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> >> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure
> >> with
> >> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> >> G ..
> >
> > I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
> > visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?
> >
> >
> > t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
> > t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
> > t:  96 f:-2.399 a:-0.3 dp:109.6 ci:13 cj:165 *AF67Y???2T3BE0 ?
> > t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
> > t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?
> >
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > www.h-wolff.de
> > Locator: JO52hp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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Running WOLF Beacon 

502.8 khz 

10 bit rate 

(tx usb if that matters?)

Looks to be ok this this end , wonder if it prints at your's ??  :)

Tnx

Graham 

G0NBD / io83lk





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Laurie,

lawrence mayhead wrote:
 > So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan,
 > but these are digital, can the AGC be turned off?

Yes, at least on Perseus. It has a dedicated "AGC OFF" button.

 > and another problem if my computer sound card is tied up
 > processing I/Q signals can it also do the FFT analysis ? at
 > the same time.

Perseus uses the computer's default soundcard only for audio
output (for listening). High speed USB 2.0 is used to transfer
the digital I/Q signal from Perseus to the PC, up to 500ksps =>
max 400kHz panoramic display. With an additional VAC program
(Virtual Audio Cable), the audio output can be routed
(digitally - without any loss of quality) to any software that
expects an input signal from a soundcard (Argo etc).

Perseus is the "cleanest" receiver I have ever seen/heard!
Only a few very weak spurs and an exceptionally clean LO (or
rather ADC clock). The LO "noise trumpet" is very narrow and
the noise, measured with a crystal oscillator, is about
-142dBc/Hz at 2kHz offset.

Unfortunately, the receiver has no input for external frequency
reference. This may be a problem for the QRSS120 guys? Anyway,
the radio appears to be very stable.

(I am not affiliated with the Peresus manufacturer in any way,
just a very satisfied owner).

Winrad supports Perseus, and it works very well. It can be used
instead of the supplied Perseus software, however, Winrad does
not have an "AGC OFF" button (yet) but since...

...Alberto di Bene wrote:
 > in case it is not implemented, just ask the author of the program...

this problem can be considered already solved.

Hi hi... :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Hi Wolf, LF,

I have downloaded the new version & tested sound card selection & it is OK 
on my system with my 2 cards.

Thanks for the useful ammendment.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Hello Graham,
>
> you wrote:
>> Ok Wolf,
>>
>> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the selection 
>> of the soundcard !
>>
>> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound card 
>> , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long usb 
>> cable  !
>>
> Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip
>
> I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You 
> will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the 
> tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the 
> 2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one 
> soundcard installed.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
>
>
> 




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Hello Gary, Graham, and the group,

Thanks for testing the new WOLF GUI with the soundcard selector - glad 
to hear it works since I couldn't test it myself.
At my home QTH I have an enormous unstable carrier just above 500 kHz, 
about 6 kHz wide with a hum-like sound. It wipes everything out except 
some DI beacons.

Marco - Indeed KK7KA's WOLF decodes signals which are *much* weaker than 
those you can see on a waterfall display. So the waterfall is not a good 
tuning aid for WOLF signals; but it helps to check if a receiver is 
connected at all.

Cheers,
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Dear OMs,thank You for Your reply.
I have been qrv this morning, without success. I have called abt three times=
 cq.=20
1808z QSO DF6NM (dfcw3) me qrs3 both OO, for me aural cw was possilble (rst4=
49 at abotu 50 C/min) .

Please be qrv and respond.=20

55, Hans-Albrecht
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> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 13.01.08 20:09:41
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: Re: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning


>=20
> hi Marco, LF
>=20
> DJ6GT(137.70) was in QSO with DK6NI(137.71)
>=20
> 73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Scholz, Marco " <marco.scholz@citi.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: LF: DK8ND on 137.7KHz this morning
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> Hello,
> I received Hans-Albrecht, DK8ND this morning around 11am UTC calling "CQ
> DK8ND k" -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/cq_dk8nd_130108_137690_s.jpg,
> Freq. ~137.690KHz
> I received 2 more signals around .700 and .710 at ~10:00-10:50am UTC,
> but i could not identify -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5555.jpg and
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/capt5557.jpg. Does someone know who was
> calling?
>=20
> Receiving around 137.7 is really difficult here with my FT-857+137KHz
> Preamp without a small filter, QRM and strong DCF signal, but i tried it
> to hear DK8ND.=20
>=20
> Thanks
> Vy73
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> Marco
> DD7PC
> JN49ax
>=20
> Rx: Yaesu FT-857, G0MRF 137KHz Preamp, PA0DRT Miniwhip
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> mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de
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Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - about 45 mi=
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> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
> from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
> 2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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Jim,

> Thanks for the comments. I will run the WOLF beacon again tonight, probably
>>from around 2200utc onwards. On W1TAG's suggestion, I intend to change the
> operating frequency to 503.8kHz.

this decode was made from a 48kHz wide soundfile recorded with my
homemade SDR around 00:05 UTC. Signal was clearly visible. Winrad
shows it about 28dB above the noise.

t:  24 f:-1.149 a:-0.9 dp:143.4 ci: 1 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t:  48 f:-1.147 a:-1.1 dp:140.7 ci: 2 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t:  96 f:-1.146 a:-1.2 dp:140.8 ci: 4 cj:407 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 192 f:-1.143 pm:56578 jm:145 q:  8.1  8.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 288 f:-1.152 pm:252845 jm:146 q: 10.6 10.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 384 f:-1.152 pm:512531 jm:146 q: 12.2 12.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 480 f:-1.152 pm:589318 jm:147 q: 10.6 10.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 576 f:-1.152 pm:699639 jm:147 q: 11.0 11.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 672 f:-1.152 pm:700231 jm:147 q: 11.2 11.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 768 f:-1.152 pm:700900 jm:147 q:  9.5  9.5 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 864 f:-1.152 pm:701431 jm:147 q:  6.5  6.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 960 f:-1.152 pm:701653 jm:147 q:  4.4  3.8 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -


73
Hartmut
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Wooaahhooooo finally !........
copy of VO1NA qrp
see capture

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj


















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qrt - 0140

Tnx for reports

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800 >>> 502.798 Khz <<<


> Ok Thanks for the frequency check,
>
> Its just as it came out of the box at the momen
>
> if its stable then a check on the sound card will sort the offset, the 
> exciter is ok as far as i can tell
>
> Rgds
>
> Graham .
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WOLF BEACON 502.800
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
>> Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
>> lost some lines.
>> Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37
>>
>> t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
>> t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
>> t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
>> t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>
>>
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Yes, but the EME reflection was way down in the noise here.
The "direct" (well, ionosphere-reflected signal) was quite strong at times.

73,  Wolf

Luc van Achte schrieb:
> HI LF,
>  
> Do someone see something in Europe ??
>  
> ON4AOL, Luc



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Hi all,

I want to inform you about my new license on 500 kHz.

Freq  501 kHz to 507 kHz.
CW/Data mode.
Power 20W EMRP
Periode 1/1-08 to 31/12-11
Signal is my regulare ham signal (SM6BHZ)

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Yes its there if I scroll down, not as convenient ast ARGO.
G3KEV

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> How very odd ,
>
> Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at
the
> bottom of the screen,
>
> May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you
have
> the horizontal gain set too high ?
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
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> > Hi all
> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which
is
> > the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but
> > also
> > a bit slow.
> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
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> > 73 de Mal/G3KEV
> >
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lawrence mayhead wrote:
 > None of the receivers I have looked at have an AGC OFF facility.

Perseus is a nice receiver. Except for the preselection filters and a little 
amplifier chip, just before the ADC, it is DSP all the way (direct sampling at 
80MS/s) and it has an AGC OFF button!

http://www.microtelecom.it/perseus/
http://www.locutus.it/sundry/perseus/
http://www.ssb.de/amateur/pdf/Perseus_SDR_1107.pdf (German)

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Hello Laurie,

I have used an ICOM R75 and still own a AOR AR7030.
Both are excellent performers at LF.

The AR7030 has top notch rf performance but the ergonomics of the AR7030 are=
 a bit unusual. The R75 is very easy to drive and has a 1 Hz frequency reado=
ut.
The perfect receiver should be an AR7030 with a R75 front panel.
The R75 is the receiver of choice for many NDB chasers.

The AR7030 is still available new. The R75 is not available in Europe, due t=
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A pity the main distributor won't ship into Europe.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Laurie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have used an ICOM R75 and still own a AOR=
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AR7030.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Both are excellent performers at LF.</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The AR7030 has top notch rf performance but=
 the=20
ergonomics of the AR7030 are a bit unusual.&nbsp;The R75 is very easy to dri=
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and has a 1 Hz frequency readout.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The perfect receiver should be an AR7030 wi=
th a R75=20
front panel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The R75 is the receiver of choice for many=20=
NDB=20
chasers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The AR7030 is still available new. The R75=20=
is not=20
available in Europe, due to ROHS restrictions. They are quiet cheap in the U=
SA,=20
due to the good (for us) dollar exchange rate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A pity the main distributor won't ship into=
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Hello Nick,
I have been using an IC-R75 with the optional xtal oven for some years and f=
ind it very useful at LF. I see one sold on Trademe this month for NZ$600.

Mike ZL4OL
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Nick Mclean (SYD)=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:41 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: LF Receiver


  Hi all,
  Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
  It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off. Attenuator=
. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem good. Room for 2 o=
ptional filters.=20
  I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any comments=
.

  73's

  Nic McLean

  VK2KXN / VK5ZAT

  Tel:  02 99410619

  Fax: 02 98139009=20

  Mobile:  0417 822 728






  Many thanks to those who responded to my mail on the subject of receivers=20=
for LF/QRSS.
  and my problems with my 1792.
  Paul Hendrik for the URL re circuits Tracey Gardner for the e'bay lead, an=
d Warren for suggestions=20
  re alternative Rx's.
  The lack of AGC OFF on DSP receivers is a worrying trend as Andy says.
  So I have been looking around!
  I have flirted with the possibility of  the Harris 590 or the Collins 2050=
, both have excellent specs and are non DSP, they look good,but do I want to=
 take on another servicability problem, and they are not cheap.=20
  The Ten Tec RX340 also excellent spec. but its DSP and no AGC off.=20
  The AOR 7030 is non DSP and the spec is good but operationally it is very=20=
daunting,and it won't tune in 1Hz steps and it BFO offset has only 33 steps.=
 I am concerned about setting it up for ARGO etc.Any comments Alan? also I g=
uess its coming to the end of its production.
  So that leaves SDR receivers like the Perseus, thanks Johan, but these are=
 digital, can the AGC be turned off? and another problem if my computer soun=
d card is tied up  processing  I/Q signals can it  also  do the FFT analysis=
 ? at the same time. Perhaps Andy can help?
  So I am still looking
  73 Laurie.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Nick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using an IC-R75 with the option=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike ZL4OL</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: LF Receiver</DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do many people on the list use an Icom=
=20
  IC-R75?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It's specs read ok to my way of lookin=
g, AGC fast, slow=20
  or off. Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range see=
m=20
  good. Room for 2 optional filters. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial     color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I don't see a spec for frequency stabi=
lity - does anyone=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D624373503-23012008><FONT face=
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I worked OR7T at 21:20 utc last evening in Luton IO91TV, very good signal, I
gave him 477.

73
M0KHW    IO91TV

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang B=FCscher
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Subject: LF: OR7T 559

.. on 503.1 kHz, in QSO with a G-stn which is not audible here at the=20
moment.

73,
  Wolf  (lurking...)


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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> just worked my first QSO's on 600m:

Congratulations Rik!

Nice copy in SM too. I heard your CQ a few minutes ago.

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Hello  LFers ,

Good propagation , last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ
WD2XKO

DJ8WX

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber at :
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:37:29 +0100
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

>=20
> I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
> available soon.
>=20
>


Thanks for your kind words Lubos!

I have put up a short, untuned, vertical of approx 5m height and am
feeding this to the RX that runs the grabber. The signals are not as
strong as usual, but I see DI2AM (and some local QRM) on the waterfall
at 1400UTC.

I have restored the grabber to normal, 5 minute updates, but please
ensure you use the following URL:-

http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm

I hope to restore the antenna to its full height, and to resonate/match
it, when I can get a replacement section of the telescopic fibreglass
pole. Until then I might have to lower the antenna in bad weather, as
it's only guyed at one level and might be a bit unstable in high winds.

Regards,

John
GM4SLV



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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( Good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Thanks, John.

I've only just got my 500 kHz kit back together, and I was sending with no
side tone - makes my CW a bit ropey!

It's been an interesting evening, and congratulations to Rik on getting
going on 500 before all our NOVs expire! Just shows what can be done with a
bit more power.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
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Subject: Re: LF: QRV on 503kHz


On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:30:08 -0000
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rik, John,
>
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange
> callsign threw me at first!
>
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/
> & ON/G QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
>
>

Thanks Dave,Rik & LF

I just came back into the shack and heard the end of your own QSO with
Rik too.

It's great to stir up some new activity. Rik's announcement of
impending operation got me out into the darkness with a torch to
re-tune the ATU. If you've seen the picture of my QTH in this month's
RadCom you can appreciate just how dark it can be here at night!

Cheers,

John





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Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a qui=
et period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz...ss=
b is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundwaves=
 thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox duri=
ng equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found on lo=
nger distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or dusk.=
..strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7 you=20=
can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband no ca=
rrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird but t=
hat what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
  Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mod=
e/times etc
  =20
  WIth thanks
  =20
  Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia




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    From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:37:10 +1300
    Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


    st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zea=
land..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO=20=
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lawrence mayhead wrote:

--- snip ---
> Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is 
> neccessesary to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or 
> does it do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?

  Lawrence,

    I have many receivers, RA-1792, ICR-75 and Perseus included, among others.
Should I be forced to depart from all except one, the one that will stay is the Perseus.
Granted, it needs some mentality shifting as far as the operating procedures are concerned. You don't have anymore a 
solid  and reassuring heavy tuning wheel in your hand, to slowly turn in search of that elusive whispering, you will do 
the search visually on the waterfall, but which other receiver offers you a continuously variable IF bandwidth ranging 
from let's say 25 Hz to 12 kHz ? A complete view of what is happening in a range of 400 kHz ? A point-and-click tuning 
on the signal that has just appeared inside those 400 kHz ? To not speak of a BDR of 125 dB. Look here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/bdr.gif

Further info here :
http://www.microtelecom.it/perseus/index.htm
http://www.radioamatore.it/woodbox/Perseus_uk.html

Though Nico IN3NWV (the designer and producer of Perseus) is one of my good friends, I have no commercial interests in 
this product, so my words are those of a satisfied customer.

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Hello All.
After a stumbling start I should be back on 500kHz early next week after a
rebuild of my driver board to use with the PA that Chris G3XIZ kindly built
for me. If all goes well I should be putting about 600mA into my doublet
connected as a "T".

73s  Ken M0KHW   IO91TV  

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: 11 January 2008 19:05
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Subject: LF: MF/LF

It looks like MF and LF acty has just about fizzled out. The reflector has
gone the same way, no discussion or observations. LF declined a long time
ago bar a couple of dedicated stations that keep plugging away. MF has not
even been going a year yet in the UK and only about four stations are really
active.
The effort on these low bands certainly does not justify the work involved,
special antennas and transmitters.
On the other hand 160m is going strong both local and dxing plus all the
other hf bands.
With so few stations mode diversifications does not help, all using
different modes and very little real communications taking place. The only
consistant activity is those stations using CW. This applies mostly to 500
khz, and this band is not attracting big numbers because the TX has to be
home built, antennas take up a good amount of space, that most amateurs do
not have and good CW operating is an advantage, all of which most cannot
fulfill.
Except there is some miracle around the corner the whole thing will just
fizzle out.
de Mal/G3KEV





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I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
receiver.
This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the
receivers
I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of these
receivers
is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass
band
will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could
quite
disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter
so that
signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
de-sensitisation, and this
could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
Or do I look for another R1792

73 Laurie G3AQC

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I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.<br>This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement receiver.<br>This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
<br>for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of the receivers <br>I have looked at have an AGC OFF&nbsp; facility.This means that if one of these receivers <br>is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the pass band
<br>will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal could quite<br>disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital filter so that <br>signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce de-sensitisation, and this
<br>could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.<br>Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?<br>Or do I look for another R1792&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Hi LF,

Testing ASCII 7 on 503.000 KHz +/- in between Grahams Packet test.

Basically just to see if I could.

Any reports welcome.

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:40 -0000
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
> 
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
> 
>


Both G4WGT (503.6) and G0MRF (503.7) are armchair loudspeaker copy here
in Shetland!

Great to hear both sigs at the same time.

John
GM4SLV
Clousta







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Hello LF,

Following Laurie's comments re: AGC action on my grabber display I've 
turned the RX AGC OFF.

The band is quiet at the moment (1030z) with only DI2AM and G0MRF 
visible.

I've set the RF gain to 73% and the waterfall looks "normal". I'll try 
to keep an eye on it as night time conditions arrive and signals 
increase in amplitude. Hopefully the "AGC OFF" settings will allow 
better monitoring of weak signals when the DI/OK beacons are strong 
enough to drive the AGC, were it left on. Fine tweaking of the RF gain 
setting might be necessary later to optimise the dynamic range.

Cheers,

John



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Zitat von K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net>:

> Jean-Pierre,
>
>   Thank you for the report and the 'grabber'!
> Poor conditions, noisy band, so I make short transmissions to save 
> electricity and 'save the planet'!
>
> Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

Hi Jean-Pierre,
too: thanks for the reports and thanks for the grabber.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Tnx Hartmut ,
73 J-P f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
>  =20
>> Hello Hall ,
>> What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7
>>    =20
> 20:30 >> 21:00
>  =20
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>    =20
>
> Andrej, EW6GB
>
> 73
> Hartmut
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>
>
>
>  =20

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:16:44 -0000
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using
> WOLF 20 mode, "by popular request".


Hi Jim, LF,

Just managed to get my first ever decode of WOLF, although I haven't
tried too hard before...

2008-01-22 07:26:00 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 800 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f:-1.248 a: 0.2 dp: 89.5 ci: 3 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  24 f:-1.245 a: 0.1 dp: 89.8 ci: 2 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  48 f:-1.246 a: 0.2 dp: 88.6 ci: 1 cj:344 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:  96 f:-1.250 pm:220.0 jm:271 q:  6.7  2.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 144 f:-1.250 pm:301.6 jm:271 q:  5.9  4.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -


Thanks,

John
GM4SLV


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What has this to do with lf?? 

Paul Reeves   G8GJA

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 20 January 2008 00:48
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Subject: LF: Fw: [amateur-radio] Funeral Coverage Satellite details


thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should be able

to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of the hams lucky 
enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away back in 50s on 
14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in group a all silent 
keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
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> At 09:16 p.m. 18/01/2008, you wrote:>Yes,>>IS2 C band - TVNZ service and 
> full uniterupted coverage on TV1.>>There ya have it.There is also suppose 
> to be a special satellite feed for Nepal TV. Asiasat2 would be my 
> pickAssisting Wide Intrntl Coverage of HIllary FuneralFriday, 18 January 
> 2008, 11:08 amPress Release: Television New ZealandTVNZ Assists Wide 
> International Media Coverage of Hillary FuneralAs host broadcaster of the 
> State Funeral of Sir Edmund Hillary, TVNZ wants to maximise the 
> accessibility of the broadcast to all New Zealanders, and to the rest of 
> the world.In addition to TVNZ's own live broadcast on TV ONE, live 
> streaming on tvnz.co.nz and replay on TVNZ ondemand, TVNZ has offered the 
> broadcast free of charge to domestic and international radio and 
> television broadcasters and agencies.So far the following news 
> organisations have requested access to the TVNZ feed:ABC Australia, Al 
> Jazeera, APTN, BBC, Channel 9 Australia, Channel 10 Australia, CNN, EBU 
> (European Broadcasting Union), Reuters Australia, SBS Australia, Sky News 
> Australia, Prime/Sky, Radio Works, TV Works, and Newstalk ZB.TVNZ has also

> organised a special satellite link for Nepal TV to allow the live 
> broadcast to be screened there.In Antarctica, the live broadcast will be 
> fed to Scott Base via TVNZ's Pacific Service, which will also carry the 
> ceremony.Chief Executive Rick Ellis said the decision to make the 
> broadcast available without charge was recognition of the unique position 
> Sir Edmund held in the eyes of the world.TVNZ's live coverage of the State

> Funeral will begin at 10am on Tuesday, with commentary provided before and

> after the service itself by broadcasters Simon Dallow and Mark Sainsbury. 
> The service in St Mary's Church in the grounds of Holy Trinity Cathedral 
> in Parnell will be broadcast without commentary, unless points of 
> explanation are absolutely necessary.ENDS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: <amateur-radio@nzart.org.nz>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:12 PM
> Subject: [amateur-radio] Suggestion from george f boorer
>
>
>> Hi amateur-radio nz,
>>
>>
>> george f boorer stopped by Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
>> and suggested that you visit the following URL:
>>
>>
>>
>>
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2008/sir_edmund_hillary_state_funera
l.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is their message....
>> I hope they relay it live on television in england so my son and family 
>> can see it...lets change the queens chain around all our lakes rivers and

>> sea coast to the hillary chain..then us true old kiwis will always 
>> remember our great country.
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>> Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
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Hi Laurence,

this one is listed as TBA Ankara, Turkey on http://www.longwave.de/below150.=
pdf , and has been active from time to time in the past. The frequency is ab=
ove my normal grabber setting. I can currently hear it as a low frequency wa=
rble on a portable AM radio tuned to the DCF39 carrier.

Best 73
Markus

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
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  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:58 AM
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  Strong, up to S7, RTTY signal to the West of me I believe, 138.965/139.040=
KHz  Still coming in at 1 hour after my sunrise @ 23Z
  DCF39 still very deep qsb and weaker than "normal" - 10 db short peak befo=
re sunrise but max sig overnight was about S7 on a normal noizy bank
  =20
  Laurence 9V1 LF


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>this one is listed as TBA Ankara, Turkey on <A   hre=
f=3D"http://www.longwave.de/below150.pdf">http://www.longwave.de/below150.pd=
f</A>&nbsp;,=20
and has been active from time to time in the past. The frequency&nbsp;is abo=
ve=20
my normal grabber setting.&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;currently hear it as a low=20
frequency warble on a portable&nbsp;AM radio tuned to the DCF39=20
carrier.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus</FONT></DIV>
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b=20
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Mike,

right now were are more than happy with what we got, so we don't want 
to push our luck ...
Maybe later.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 09:18 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>You guys should try to get 501-510kc and hopefully US can get down 
>to 501kc rather than our 505kc we have now.
>
>Mike
>WE0H
>WD2XSH/16
>
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>>BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
>>(upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).
>>
>>73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>>At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>>>On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>>> >
>>>But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I 
>>>recall a time when in the United States of America top band was 
>>>not available in many areas.
>>>
>>>73
>>>John F5VLF/G3PAI
>>
>>
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>>
>>


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Slightly OT,
   received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif engineer 
for the HAARP project:
73 Warren K2ORS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)"

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment


>
> Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
>
> The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
> and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted
> a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
> A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
> echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
>
> HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
> for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
> wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
> listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
> following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
> times are in Universal Time (UTC):
>
> HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
>
> Date
>>From      To
> Transmitted Frequency
>
> (UTC)
> UTC
> Hr:Min)
> (MHz)
>
> 19 January 2008
> 05:00
> 06:00          6.7925
>
> 06:00
> 07:00          7.4075
>
> 20 January 2008
> 06:30
> 07:30          6.7925
>
> 07:30
> 08:30          7.4075
>
>
> Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
> to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
> and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
> meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
> antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
> transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
> figure.
>
> (not avaialable)
>
> The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
> five
> second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
> lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
> repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
> During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
> but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
> Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
> carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
> mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
> operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.
> However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
> it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
>
> Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
> to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
> the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
> seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
> 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
> The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period
> after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
> 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
> a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
> neither.
>
> We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
> who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
> transmitted
> skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
> your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
> and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
>
> mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
>
> http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
>
> [end]
>
>
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Hello Mike,
capture last night 01.36z.
qth-loc: KO85sv
73!

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Hi all,


For those of you that like to tune the NDB bands from time to time I'd
like to announce that the 2008 edition of the ENDBH & NANDBH handbooks
and CDs is now available.

An info package can be downloaded at

http://www.4shared.com/file/36265996/7e8331c6/2008_ndb_info_package.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/27j5ku

The new ENDBH 2008 contains the data of more than 6200 NDBs on 150+
spiral-bound pages in A4 format. Also the NANDBH 2008 has grown and
shows the data of more than 5700 NDBs on 130+ pages.

As introduced with last year's edition the CD versions contain Google
Earth compatible NDB waypoint files so that you can "visit" NDB
locations around the globe. The multimedia contents of the CD version
have been expanded to a total of more than 160 NDB pictures and over
170 NDB sound clips from around the world.

Prices in Euro remained stable once again, but US-$ prices had to be
adjusted due to the Euro/US-$ exchange rate. Please find more details
in the info package.

I'd like to take this opportunity to say many thanks to NDB DXers who
have sent me comments and updates, pointed out errors, or provided NDB
pictures and sound clips etc. Your support is very much appreciated
and an invaluable help and encouragement for me!


-- 
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook"
cf. http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/NDBpublications2008.pdf
and http://www.4shared.com/file/36265996/7e8331c6/2008_ndb_info_package.html



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Dear Jean-Pierre, John, Hartmut, LF Group,

Thanks for looking out for the beacon signal last night. I will run rhe
beacon again tonight from about 2200 (503.8kHz, WOLF 10) - at least on
500kHz you don't have to worry so much about the antenna catching fire or
the electriciy bill, unlike 136k  :-)

Jean-Pierre - I have been monitoring the off-air signal on a separate  RX
and PC, partly to see how good the frequency stability of the new rig is,
but it also confirms that the WOLF configuration is OK and it is possible to
decode the signal. I could not see anything unusual in last nights decodes;
also, Hartmut was able to decode the signal successfully. One possibility
that occurs to me is that there may be a different frequency calibration
offset on your RX between the 136kHz and 500kHz bands - this might cause
enough error on 500kHz to prevent the decoder tracking the signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Got a Usefull plot , i just used the low bandwith option , the fast  one is=20=
scrolling in segments , 30 seconds is fine for update speed ?

Tnx - Graham ..G0NBD

nb- when you sorted, add to  the uk500khz  'grabber' page ,=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:00 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Grabber


  Gents, Initial experiments with restricted bandwidth showed this effect, a=
nd when I changed the refresh  rate to 5 sec on the java version, it improve=
d. so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh to 10 seconds, and see what ha=
ppens. (users already connected may have to refresh the page)
  The non java version may perform better for those with slower connection s=
peeds (there is a link to it under the picture on the main page.)
  I am logging the requests and errors generated, none has actually stopped=20=
the system this end
  Thanks to all, for looking in, and especially to Wolfgang for the excellen=
t tool that is spectrum laboratory.=20
  regards
  Mark GM4ISM
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Luc van Achte=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:45 PM
    Subject: LF: Grabber


    Hi ,

    The same problem as told by Garry G4WGT . A few lines and then the page=20=
restarts=20
    First mail from me . Just made the mini whip from PA0RDT and try to catc=
h something on 500 kHz

    HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc  J021AF



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Got a Usefull plot , i just used the low ba=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - Graham ..G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, Initial experiments with restricte=
d=20
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or those=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am logging the requests and errors gene=
rated,=20
  none has actually stopped the system this end</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all, for looking in, and especi=
ally to=20
  Wolfgang </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the excellent tool that is=
=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi ,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The same problem as told by Garry&nbsp;=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First mail from me . Just made the mini=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc&nbsp; J021AF</FONT></=
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Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
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a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
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Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded area=
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=20
So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this=20=
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Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai=
lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20=
a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed=
 drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied.=
<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im going to put&nbsp;"down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded=
 area in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but=
 supported by the trees.&nbsp;Ive just gained another painful acre so will h=
ave wires up to 100m in length or so -&nbsp;I have silt sand and ground wate=
r at around 12 feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment=
)&nbsp;lake. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
So - question&nbsp;what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in=20=
this type of medium (?)&nbsp;Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does=20=
anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas?&nb=
sp; On the TX side I see this without a lot of&nbsp; clearing as another lar=
ge TX loop experience - just too many tall&nbsp;decoupling signal Birch for=20=
verticals at the moment.<BR>
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Laurence <BR><br /><hr />Climb to the top of the charts!=A0Play the word scr=
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Thanks Warren for this URL.

Really great!

73, Dick, PA0SE


At 04:42 8-1-2008, you wrote:
>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech
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>
>73 Warren K2ORS



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Had some pretty good looking 'lock ons' early in the evening but no decode. 

Jay


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Peter,

 

I asked this and John Gould said this:

 

Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

 

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue

of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may

recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  

 

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

 

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application.  

 

73 John, G3WKL

RSGB HF Manager

 

g3wkl@btinternet.com

 

 

73

Dom

 

  _____  

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Hi All

 

Does any one know the fate of UK 600m ? 

 

Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer Watts  ;-)

 

73 Petefmt

  

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dom, t=
hanks for raising the
issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to know where we all stand.<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RSGB,=20=
at its quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>of NoV=
 extension, as well as
requesting an increase of ERP.&nbsp;&nbsp; As you may<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>recall=
 several of the
correspondents on this reflector provided me with some useful material for o=
ur
case.&nbsp; Ofcom commented then that they would need to gain a view from th=
e
primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outc=
ome
of WRC-07 was known.&nbsp; I view that as sensible, since apart from the sma=
ll
matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, th=
ere
was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area=20=
of
interest.&nbsp; We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and=20=
we were
told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during=20=
the
first half of February.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>There=20=
is nothing that
individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As far=
 as your own NoV is
concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the
application.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>73 Joh=
n, G3WKL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RSGB H=
F Manager<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>g3wkl@=
btinternet.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Co=
urier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dom<o:p></o:p></span></f=
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Ok Alan,

Should be the bbc on 198 khz ! , i have a idea it varies slightly .. the 
ppl that is .. not the bbc
... but by how much , im not sure

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:26 PM
> Subject: LF: WOLF BEACON - 503.000 KHZ
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,
>
> Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??
>
> Running tx locked to  off air standard ,
>
> intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??
>
> tnx - Graham .
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>
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> 




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James Moritz wrote:

>Dear LF Group,
>
>The WOLF beacon is now running again from 2200utc. I am now using WOLF 20
>mode, "by popular request". Frequency is 503.800 as before - any reports
>welcome, or comparison with the previous WOLF 10 sigs. The idea is that the
>faster mode may be beneficial for short-duration peaks in signal strength
>occuring on 500kHz.
>
>  
>
>  
>
Hi Jim. LF
just few minutes ago i got it on my screen :)

2008-01-21 23:05:13 >WOLF20  -r 11025 -f 600 -t 2 -w 0.0000
t:  12 f: 0.435 a:-1.4 dp: 84.3 ci:10 cj:382 *G2X04COZNR7KXY ?
t:  24 f: 0.443 a: 1.4 dp: 82.1 ci: 2 cj: 83 9NKOL67D6BYS5I0 ?
t:  48 f: 1.678 a:-1.1 dp: 78.7 ci: 5 cj:148 Y9D9LZDP2DOTCDA -
t:  96 f: 0.000 pm:46.42 jm:363 q:-11.7 -9.1 9DDOLPBB7P.B.J1 ?
t: 144 f: 1.504 pm:50.12 jm:940 q:-11.9 -8.3 W1KC3C???OABLOP ?
t: 192 f: 0.742 pm:54.15 jm:191 q:-10.3 -7.3 RXV7M/9 DA030F7 ?
t: 240 f: 1.875 pm:60.90 jm:852 q: -9.1 -7.1 31PFO99Y373B/UW ?
t: 288 f: 0.020 pm:76.49 jm:300 q: -6.0 -8.3 MH13.3EU4G37CNM ?
t: 336 f: 0.020 pm:110.1 jm:300 q: -4.3 -5.3 M0BMUAEU4G37CN  -
t: 384 f: 0.020 pm:137.2 jm:300 q: -3.4 -5.2 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 432 f: 0.020 pm:152.1 jm:300 q: -3.4 -4.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 480 f: 0.020 pm:161.8 jm:300 q: -2.9 -4.1 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 528 f: 0.020 pm:175.9 jm:300 q: -2.8 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:199.1 jm:300 q: -2.1 -3.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 624 f: 0.020 pm:207.8 jm:300 q: -2.0 -2.7 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:219.9 jm:300 q: -1.8 -2.8 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 720 f: 0.020 pm:223.8 jm:300 q: -1.8 -3.0 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:225.4 jm:300 q: -1.8 -3.3 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 816 f: 0.020 pm:226.2 jm:300 q: -1.7 -3.4 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 864 f: 0.020 pm:226.7 jm:300 q: -1.7 -3.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 912 f: 0.020 pm:228.4 jm:300 q: -1.6 -3.6 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t: 960 f: 0.020 pm:238.9 jm:300 q: -1.4 -3.7 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1008 f: 0.020 pm:243.2 jm:300 q: -1.1 -3.5 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1056 f: 0.020 pm:244.1 jm:300 q: -1.0 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -
t:1104 f: 0.020 pm:257.7 jm:300 q: -1.0 -3.9 M0BMU 600M BCN  -

  recently i posted an e-mail to LF group with my first ever reception 
of ham stastion on 137 khz. while i sent few posts
  reporting my 600 m screens this one is the FIRST ever one from  
England it just happend to be you, Jim  :):)

                                                   cheers, peter, 
sq7mpj  /jo91rs/                     


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Hello Graham,

you wrote:
> Ok Wolf,
>
> Well , that would be a usefull addition, if you could allow the 
> selection of the soundcard !
>
> All the system bongs and on line streams go out over the main sound 
> card , while the radio is linked to  its own ....on the end of a long 
> usb cable  !
>
Ok, I have downloaded a slightly modified WOLF GUI to this location:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_gui_060118.zip

I was too lazy to change the revision number and the documentation. You 
will find the selectors for the audio-in - and output device on the 
tabsheet labelled "I/O Config". I didn't even check if it works with the 
2nd, 3rd etc soundcard simply because my recent "workhorse" has only one 
soundcard installed.

Cheers,
  Wolf  DL4YHF .



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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:04:42 -0000
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure
> with this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> 
> G ..


Just as I got the software setup to decode you...!

Oh well, better luck next time,

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Dear all,

a short overview of my first night on 600m:
- 4 stations worked: G3AQC, GM4SLV (1100km), G3ZWH and G3WCB in that order
- reception reports from OH (OH1LSQ, 1680km), SM, DL, SP, OK, PA
- heard but not worked: DI2AM (599) and SM6BHZ (599+)

As the UK NoV's might expire by the end of February I tried to get 
QRV asap, with a very "experimental" and temporary station:
TX: clone of the M0MBU 4MHz VXO design with a modified 136kHz PA. The 
PA is causing some trouble, efficiency is lousy (40%) and the FET's 
are getting very hot during transmission, so I keep the TX periods 
short. Output = 120 W.
Antenna: 9m high / 25m long T-antenna with a part of the loading coil 
at the top. Calculated Rrad = 0.3 Ohm. Antenna current is 1.4 A, so 
theoretical ERP should be about 0.6 W. But due to the many trees 
close to the antenna (some only about 2m) I guess that my real ERP is 
far less, maybe 0.3 W.
Based on 120 W / 1.4 A the loss resistance is about 60 Ohm
Antenna tuning and variometer are in open air, so for no no operation 
when it is raining.

I will try to be QRV with this setup during the next weeks (to get 
interested UK NoV's one step closer to their DXCC .... ..) and 
meanwhile I will try to
- build a proper high efficiency TX (I aim for 400 W)
- improve ground to reduce the losses (I aim for 40 Ohm)
That should improve my signal by about 7 dB (1.5 W ERP).

73, Rik  ON7YD (and OR7T)


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> Hi Rik isn't it more likely to be the case that these low antennas are muc=
h
more dependent on ground conditions, which are not modelled very well=20


Highly likely! This is one of the things that has become painfully obvious t=
o those of us interested in cave radio.

To add to the problems, there will be rock at some depth under the ground. T=
his depth can vary enormously: soil over limestone is probably a metre or le=
ss deep (very much a guess); in parts of southern England, on London Clay, h=
ard rock can be tens or even a hundred metres down. Nor is there any reason=20=
to suppose that the soil/rock boundary is either level or smooth.=20

The conductivities of soil and rock presumably matter, and may vary from pla=
ce to place. They will certainly vary with the recent rainfall.

So you may be dealing with a two-layer problem with a top layer of unknown a=
nd possibly varying thickness, and two layers of unknown and varying conduct=
ivity. Apart from that, modelling it is child's play!

73,
Chris Trayner, G4OKW


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Dr Chris Trayner
School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering,
The University of Leeds,
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Caught a fairly ghostly "AQ" in the local noise here tonight around 0H, 
but no more. None of the other signals on Jean-Pierre's grabber were 
visible. Quite noisy in the neighborhood tonight.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Happy New Year!


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Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
 
Perhaps this might be be a "violation of our human rights"?
 
As Ian Hislop ("Private Eye") would say: "I think we should be told"
 
 
Watts good for one should be Watts good for all !
 
 
   

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Cood condx tonite on both 500 and 1800 khz. WE2XGR/6 good audible sig on 500
and can hear W acty on 1820 khz as far as W9 at present, sigs about 559 on
average working into EU.
73 Mal/G3KEV


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Andy,

  Thanks for your comments, you are always insightful.   For the record, I made no comments about a "setup filter" I was merely forwarding an article by Dallas Lankford.  That said, full A/D overload of -23dBm and a dynamic range of 80dB may be adequate for low signal environments (I'm told that big MW stations are rare in the U.K.) but would fare poorly at this QTH which has FIVE 50kW MW stations with 15kM!

   Back to the AGC issues, Rob Sherwood of Sherwood Engineering has published a slide presentation on how poorly ALL DSP receivers perform under QRN conditions due to the DSP handling of AGC:
http://www.sherweng.com/documents/Dayton2007w.pdf

  The new software defined radios offer unique spectrum displays and record possibilities but the basic radio functions are not up to the specs of a high-end analog receiver yet though I'm sure that day is coming.



--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> Warren's  comments about "setup filter" are not correct    What he is
> actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes
> place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip. (In fact, he actually
> alludes to this right at the end).  It is possible to achieve overload in
> the decimation process even though the arw A/D data is still within its
> linear range.   However, this 'second stage' overload is not real, and is
> caused by an overflow in the maths.  It can be prevented by adjustment of
> the AD6620 gain without any resulting reduction in sensitivity.
> 
> I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in
> place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent
> with his measured figure.
> The dynamic range of approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level
> and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the
> SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input which are switched in
> automatically depending on the frequency selected.   He makes several
> observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be
> valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements
> and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
> 
> I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a
> greater selection of front end filtering available.  This is clearly better,
> but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs twice as much as an SDR-IQ,
> you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth,
> 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
> 
> I've used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the
> RA1792 that was once used regularly on LF.  There was never any sign of
> overloading on the 'IQ, using both an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip
> or the tuned 137kHz Tee.  Even with the input gain set at +10dB.   For
> a medium cost SDR, its difficult to beat
> 
>  However, for* purely LF* use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn't
> already got an SDR-IQ, I'd probably look at a customised Softrock type.
> With a decent high order Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off
> medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or
> 11th order LPF isn't difficult at this frequency) followed by a decent
> bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.  Depending on where
> you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you'll
> get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.   The high Q antenns
> used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low
> frequency signals.   In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably
> rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do
> admirably.
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the
> > strong signal performance to be wanting:
> >
> > http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
> >
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
> > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers
> >
> >
> > Hi Laurence
> > Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,
> >  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much
> > cheaper).
> >
> > You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also
> > down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability
> > to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had
> > the SDR RF section feeding your computer.
> >
> > This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try
> > out.
> >
> > Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if
> > you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that
> > does just that... at a cost though!!
> >
> > One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic
> > display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW
> > ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it
> > other decoder features are to follow.
> >
> > So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached
> > and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable
> > connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
> >
> > The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ
> > connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth
> > fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
> >
> > One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for
> > later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the
> > original recording.
> >
> > The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay
> > you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all
> > the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF
> > section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
> >
> > Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group
> > 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1B
> GdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwM
> TEwNTIwNA-->for
> > up to date information.
> >
> > I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments
> > are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
> >
> > I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every
> > sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
> >
> > Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the
> > free software.
> >
> > 73 petefmt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
> > But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
> > At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
> > a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec.
> > looks
> > good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> > I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
> > neccessesary
> > to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or
> > does it
> > do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
> > Any help gratefully received.
> > 73 Laurie
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > Sent from 
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> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andy  G4JNT
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<div>Warren&#39;s &nbsp;comments about &quot;setup filter&quot; are not correct&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What he is actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip.&nbsp;(In fact, he actually alludes to this&nbsp;right at the end).&nbsp;&nbsp;It is possible to achieve overload in the decimation process even though the&nbsp;arw A/D data&nbsp;is still within its linear range.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, this &#39;second stage&#39; overload is not real, and&nbsp;is caused by&nbsp;an overflow in the maths.&nbsp;&nbsp;It can be prevented by adjustment of the AD6620 gain without any resulting&nbsp;reduction in sensitivity.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent with his measured figure.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>The dynamic range of&nbsp;approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input&nbsp;which are switched in automatically depending on the frequency selected.&nbsp;&nbsp; He makes several observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a greater&nbsp;selection of front end filtering available.&nbsp; This is clearly better, but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs&nbsp;twice as much as an SDR-IQ, you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth, 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;ve used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the RA1792&nbsp;that was once used&nbsp;regularly on LF.&nbsp; There was never any sign of overloading on the &#39;IQ, using both&nbsp;an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip or the tuned 137kHz Tee.&nbsp; Even with the input gain set at +10dB.&nbsp;&nbsp; For a&nbsp;medium cost&nbsp;SDR, its difficult to beat
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>However, for<strong> <u>purely LF</u></strong> use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn&#39;t already got an SDR-IQ, I&#39;d probably look at a customised&nbsp;Softrock type.&nbsp; With a decent high order&nbsp;Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or 11th order LPF isn&#39;t difficult at this frequency)&nbsp;followed by a decent bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.&nbsp; Depending on where you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you&#39;ll get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.&nbsp;&nbsp; The high Q antenns used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low frequency signals.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do admirably.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 24/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the strong signal performance to be wanting:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
</a></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">Peter March</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Hi Laurence</div>
<div>Whilst&nbsp;I don&#39;t have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso&#39;s in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK&#39;s web site for an explanation.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Follow the <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
<font color="#003399">Softrock-40 Interest Group </font></a>for up to date information.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto&#39;s comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Try <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flex-radio.com/" target="_blank">http://www.flex-radio.com/</a>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>73 petefmt&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><br><b><i>lawrence mayhead &lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com" target="_blank">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
<br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br></blockquote><br>
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Does anyone have an e-mail address for Doug, G3ZWH? I had a QSO with him
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Hello Uwe,
capture 21.10z.
qth-loc: KO85sv
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Test  stopped 2400

Thanks for the reports,

G ..





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Subject: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ


> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>
> MMTTY , NON REV ,
> MARK TONE  1275 HZ
> 85 HZ SHIFT ,
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> 




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Hi Mark,

Just tried the grabber a few times & each time only get a small (top) part 
of the grab, then it jumps back to top again to start scan again.

I see about 1 to 2 inches of top part of the grab at about 5 to 10 second 
periods.

Hope this report helps your problems.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Fw: Experimental 500KHz grabber




Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
website www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a 
ferrite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots 
of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR


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Hello Graham,

you wrote:
> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure 
> with this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???


Beware: The WOLF decoder requires a "stable" transmitter, and a 
precisely calibrated soundcard sampling rate. Stewart KK7KA (who 
invented it) wrote some information about this important aspect, and how 
many dB's can get lost due to errors in the sampling rate and/or 
frequency drift. Of course, this not only applies to the receive, but 
also to the transmit side.

See  http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf.html :

 >> WOLF requires very stable and accurate transmitters and receivers. 
Drift of only 3 millihertz per minute is a 3 dB loss; 10 mHz/min. will 
probably make communication impossible.
<<


Cheers,
   Wolf  .




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WX tonight from 2010 to 2040utc.

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Hello LF!

G3YXM 539 calling CQ on 503.0kHz 19.05UTC
G3KEV 579 replying to him on 502.6kHz
G3XIZ 539 on 502.3kHz in QSO with M0KHW (no copy of him) a little earlier

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Mark,

Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the screen, whi=
ch is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  click on the 'slow'=20=
link ..

Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
  Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


  Gents,=20
  Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta=
 version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users get=
ting partial images.=20
  After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, ra=
ther as expected.
  Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
  The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height a=
nd not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were v=
isible last night.
  I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the s=
hed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems sligh=
tly better than the reduced height main antenna.

  I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but=
 I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment o=
r longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbe=
rs to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground=
 for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagatio=
n indication.

  any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk
  follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just had a look, but only seeing a small st=
rip at=20
the top of the screen, which is flickering ,&nbsp; only way to&nbsp; view fu=
ll=20
page, is to&nbsp; click on the 'slow' link ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5=
px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarkhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:markhughes1@blu=
eyonder.co.uk">Mark</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:=
43=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber<=
/DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at=
 my QTH=20
  is now running a new&nbsp;beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop t=
he=20
  problem of multiple users getting partial images. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After an initial rush of activity, the nu=
mber of=20
  users has calmed down, rather as expected.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to jump on board and try to bre=
ak it=20
  again!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The system is connected to my main antenn=
a but=20
  this is at minimum height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty=
=20
  well and many signals were visible last night.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also got the magnetic antenna work=
ing,=20
  (placed temporarily on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the=20
  weather permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main=20
  antenna.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont have the fantastically low noise f=
loor=20
  that John GM4SLV offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the=20
  duration of the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is=20=
far=20
  enough away from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for the experime=
nt.=20
  It is also a testing ground for possible similar systems at SHF giving=20
  'inverse' beacons for propagation indication.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any comments or problems encounterd, plea=
se let=20
  me know!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk"=
>www.dc2light.co.uk</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of=
 the=20
  page is the grabber link.</FONT></DIV>
  <P>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
















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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hello Johan!
> Many thanks for information about signal of  beacon OK0EMW in SM. This
> picture is nice and clear. Which program do you use?

Hello Lubos,

it is the built-in waterfall display of the Perseus receiver.

73
Johan SM6LKM

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Hi Graham,


> I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see 
> a way of selecting a soundcard ?
> may be ive missed a setup box ?
>
Simply, there isn't one. But if you have more than one soundcard in/near 
your PC, you can declare one of them to be the "default" soundcard (from 
windows point of view). The WOLF GUI will use it then, because -up to 
now- it always uses the "default" soundcard.

It must be somewhere in the windows system control panel.
If not, I can add a selection box in the program, but I fear it will be 
too late for the recent transmission.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Now heard (in regular CW):

G3ZWH 502.x kHz 439
GW4HXO 502.55 kHz 339..559, deep QSB, clg cq

73, Wolf





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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Towers" <david.towers@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Z3816A


> Hi Warren
> some info here that may help in finding suitable manual etc
>
> http://www.realhamradio.com/GPS_Z3816A_Receiver.htm
>
> 73
> dave
> G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
> webpage
> www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org
>
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
>> HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon 
>> has nothing!
>>  73 Warren K2ORS
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Rtty test, cont ,

Running  dual modes , RTTY & AMTOR-FEC, recycle times  60 seconds , not able 
to  prevent modes overlapping, so separated by 300 Hz , peak signal hight 
minus 3db per frequency set  when  tones in simultanious tx ,

Setup

Tx mode , USB , Dial freq, 502.000 khz

MMTTY   503.000 Khz - mark

45.45 Bauds,
85 Hz shift - Normal
Mark  freq    1000 Hz

Multpsk    503.300 Khz  mark

AMTOR-FEC
85 Hz shift - Normal
Mark tone   1300 Hz

Tnx

Graham ..






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Subject: LF: Re: RTTY TEST QRT 2400


> Test  stopped 2400
>
> Thanks for the reports,
>
> G ..
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:38 PM
> Subject: LF: RTTY TEST BEACON - MARK TONE 502.275 KHZ
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>
>> RTTY BEACON   TEST / CONT  start  1800 hrs
>> MARK TONE  502.275KHz  , 30 SECOND REPEAT TIME
>>
>> MMTTY , NON REV ,
>> MARK TONE  1275 HZ
>> 85 HZ SHIFT ,
>> 45.45 BAUD
>>
>> TX  SET .... 501.000  USB
>>
>> TNX
>> G ..
>>
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Tnx for reports on ALE mode,

Changed mode to  fileld hell , - multipsk -  cent freq  503.000

Tnx

Graham ..



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Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!


> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>
>
>
> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
> system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful
>
>
>
> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
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> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
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> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
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> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
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> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
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> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
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> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
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> Reports  welome , did it print ?
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Jim,

> I will run the M0BMU beacon again tonight from approximately 2230utc, WOLF
> 10 mode, 503.800kHz. Any reports would be welcome.

Nothing from last night. Will be watching for at least part of this run.

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Hello Jean-Pierre and lf

> EW6GB in KO54CN  ( 2240 km )

Thanks. Loc is KO45CN.
Good cpi WX 136319.5 but some qsb.
73! DX EW6GB



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Ok John,

I found a link by searching the inbox for 'wolf' , however, I dont see a way 
of selecting a soundcard ?
may be ive missed a setup box ?

I use a out board -usb- card for the radio and the motherboard one for the
system

Tnx

Graham ..



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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 503.5kHz WOLF test


> Graham,
>
> DL4YHF's WOLF GUI program may be downloaded at:
> http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 
> 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 17:39
>
> 




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Hello Ed, this is my screen capture at 20H56 Z.
Stange reception, good at the begining and weak a the end of your CQ in  
QRSS10.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Sorry about that , the exciter failed .... after a fet taps , its back on ,=20=
beacon is sending every 15 seconds , with lenght of about 4 seconds .=20

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:45 PM
  Subject: LF: Hf packet test 110 baud , 200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz=20


  Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

  =20

  Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

  =20

  Station set up=20

  =20

  Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

  Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

  TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

  TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

  Mode , USB=20

  =20

  Test message=20

  =20

  CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



  Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



  Tnx



  Graham  - G0NBD- IO83LK=20



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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2008 7:45=
=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Hf packet test 110 bau=
d ,=20
  200 Hz shift , 503.000 Khz </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Hf p=
acket=20
  test<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>110 baud , 200 Hz shif=
t<SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN     lang=3DEN-GB>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Runn=
ing<SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>unproto beacon ,<SPAN=
     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>using HF Packet , </SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN     lang=3DEN-GB>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Stat=
ion set up=20
  </SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN     lang=3DEN-GB>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Prog=
 -=20
  Multipsk<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN     style=
=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>HF <SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"=
>&nbsp;</SPAN>packet </SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Max=20=
tone=20
  frequency <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>1000 Hz (purple=20
  mark)</SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>TX ,=
<SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Carrier freq , 502.000 K=
Hz <SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;.. ie&nbsp; rx dial set , 502=
 , usb=20
  </SPAN></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>TX<S=
PAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Ae Frequency &#8211; 503.0=
00 Khz ,<SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>max tone </SPAN>=
</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Mode=
 , USB=20
  </SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN     lang=3DEN-GB>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Test=
 message=20
  </SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN     lang=3DEN-GB>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US">CQ=20
  test qsl<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><A     href=3D"mai=
lto:g0nbd@hotmail.com">g0nbd@hotmail.com</A><SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
 yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>&gt;</SPAN></B></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US"></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US">Reports=20
  welcom, can you resolve data ?</SPAN></B></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US"></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US">Tnx</SPAN></B></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US"></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal     style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-ali=
gn: none"><B><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:=20=
'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ansi-language: E=
N-US">Graham&nbsp;=20
  - G0NBD- IO83LK </SPAN></B></P></DIV>
  <P>
  <HR>

  <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=20
  Edition. <BR>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release D=
ate:=20
  1/2/2008 11:29<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Dear LF Group,

I will be running the Wolf beacon again tonight... 503.800kHz, Wolf 20 mode,
from about 2200utc. Any reports welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Jim,

> I
> will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode,
> 503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.

below the decoding from the soudfile started at 23:00 UTC:


t:  24 f:-0.671 a: 0.3 dp:139.2 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:  48 f:-0.671 a: 0.4 dp:140.8 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:  96 f:-0.672 a: 0.5 dp:141.6 ci:12 cj:233 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 192 f:-0.674 pm:139708 jm:495 q: -1.2 -0.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 288 f:-0.674 pm:278817 jm:495 q:  6.9  7.5 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 384 f:-0.674 pm:319636 jm:495 q: 11.0 11.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 480 f:-0.684 pm:511222 jm:495 q: 13.5 14.1 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 576 f:-0.684 pm:713432 jm:495 q: 15.1 15.9 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 672 f:-0.684 pm:738187 jm:495 q: 16.1 16.9 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 768 f:-0.684 pm:800802 jm:495 q: 16.6 17.3 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 864 f:-0.684 pm:830002 jm:495 q: 17.4 18.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t: 960 f:-0.684 pm:893781 jm:495 q: 17.9 18.3 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1056 f:-0.684 pm:912285 jm:495 q: 19.1 19.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1152 f:-0.693 pm:1007942 jm:495 q: 16.6 16.6 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1248 f:-0.693 pm:1014124 jm:495 q: 17.3 17.4 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1344 f:-0.693 pm:1014967 jm:495 q: 15.5 15.7 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1440 f:-0.693 pm:1015312 jm:495 q: 14.7 15.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1536 f:-0.693 pm:1016066 jm:495 q: 12.6 12.8 M0BMU IO91VR GE -
t:1632 f:-0.693 pm:1016553 jm:495 q: 11.0 11.0 M0BMU IO91VR GE -

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Jean-Pierre,

Conditions appear to have been exceptionally stable last night.  I 
believe this is the first time I've seen XKO on your grabber with no 
fades for nearly three hours.

Dex, XKO


Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:
> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX , WD2XGJ and WD2XKO
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>



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Hello LF, Gary, Graham,

Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
following, of your last couple of overs..


(1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..

WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..

JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..

LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.

OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..

BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS

G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
V
OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
H YQQ:) B

MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS 
VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK


L73B  
AS
SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
73



Not too brilliant?


and this of Graham's CQ


VRYRYRY
SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD 
RYRSRYRS
YRYRY CQ CQ CQ D G0 B 
NOD G09
 
GYRYYRYRRYRYHCQCQ CQ DE G09?$  GBPNBDG0
B


Off now to watch the footy...

73

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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EZNEC 5 shows the 1200 fence (3ft hi) antenna to have remarkable receive 
properties
If terminated with 400ohms it produces a polar diagram not unlike a 
3-element Yagi with a maximum gain of -17dBi and a F/B of 14 dB.
The maximum elevation gain is 37 degrees although the elevation gain is 
within 2dB from 20 to 50degrees.
The antenna current shows a classic corkscrew current distribution of a 
travelling wave antenna.
If unterminated it loses its travelling wave characteristics and 
directivity.
EZNEC can use real ground or MiniNEC. I have used real ground with a 
conductivity of 0.005S/m and a dielectric constant of 13.
It would need matching. The calculated Z is R11 -j518.
The 2000m antenna is something else!

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Rik Strobbe wrote:
>> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
>> long  on 500kHz ...
>> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
> Hello Rik,
>
> MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on 
> MiniNEC, it does not properly model how the "real world" ground 
> interacts with the near field. As far as I know, it uses the ground 
> parameters for the far field calculations only. In other words, I 
> don't think MMANA is able to make meaningful performance predictions 
> for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.
>
> I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different 
> heights from 1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and 
> impedance figures were ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and 
> sometimes the real part of the impedance was negative! :-D
> Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to 
> trust the radiation patterns either.
>
>
>



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LF

20.05UTC

OR7T 419 to 519 calling CQ on 503.1kHz

Then in QSO with G3ZWH (very weak here)

Well done Rik!


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

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Ok John

Just noticed you have zero'd  in on the qso !

I'd say that was very good copy ,
its just that my typing is not that good !
and I think Gary was pressing the keys a little harder :)

Tnx

Graham ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: [500] RTTY 502kHz


> Hello LF, Gary, Graham,
>
> Despite good looking signals on the grabber I only managed the
> following, of your last couple of overs..
>
>
> (1YX0WLCRMPXESSG0NBD DE G4WGT .. OK GRABBER SIGS .. HAD NOT LOOKED ..
>
> WILL TRY TO RATCHPA TRACA ..
>
> JUST LOOKED AT SHELAND ..
>
> LILTHE RACAL .. MAKES GOOD SENSE H.
>
> OK ON SPECLAB .. YOUR ABOUT UAME HERE ..
>
> BYE XOR NOW .. CHEERS
>
> G0NBD DE G4WGT URT BNEI UWIQ MHG
> V
> OK LXYES S GS ARE OOOD UP NOR
> H YQQ:) B
>
> MKRF KIS SKHOWNG ABOVUT 15 FB DOWN ONLYTAR PLTQT .. I ASKME HE HAS
> VTURNED U THE WICK HIHIK
>
>
> L73B
> AS
> SLZ KWHOGNUCNUA
> NMITT   YES I TH                         :)= GN GRAHAM OOPS VYES I
> THOUGHT THE SAME BOU MRF SIG EARLIER GOT HIS CW 100 PC .....  GN GRAHAM
> 73
>
>
>
> Not too brilliant?
>
>
> and this of Graham's CQ
>
>
> VRYRYRY
> SRYRHRYCU CQ DE L0NBDO0NZD G0NBD
> RYRSRYRS
> YRYRY CQ CQ CQ D G0 B
> NOD G09
>
> GYRYYRYRRYRYHCQCQ CQ DE G09?$  GBPNBDG0
> B
>
>
> Off now to watch the footy...
>
> 73
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
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Gents,=20
Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta v=
ersion of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users getti=
ng partial images.=20
After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, rath=
er as expected.
Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height and=
 not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were vis=
ible last night.
I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the she=
d roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems slightl=
y better than the reduced height main antenna.

I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but I=
 hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment or=20=
longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbers=
 to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground f=
or possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation=20=
indication.

any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
Regards
Mark GM4ISM
www.dc2light.co.uk
follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at m=
y QTH is=20
now running a new&nbsp;beta version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the=20
problem of multiple users getting partial images. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After an initial rush of activity, the numb=
er of=20
users has calmed down, rather as expected.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to jump on board and try to break=
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again!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The system is connected to my main antenna=20=
but this=20
is at minimum height and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well a=
nd=20
many signals were visible last night.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also got the magnetic antenna workin=
g,=20
(placed temporarily on the shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the wea=
ther=20
permits, it seems slightly better than the reduced height main=20
antenna.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont have the fantastically low noise flo=
or that=20
John GM4SLV offers, but I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration=
 of=20
the UK experiment or longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough awa=
y=20
from other grabbers to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also=
 a=20
testing ground for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons=20=
for=20
propagation indication.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any comments or problems encounterd, please=
 let me=20
know!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co.uk">www=
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ZDR Lubomir!
Yes, I rx'd your QSL before NY!
TNX.
This is first QSL in Russia for 500 kHz SWL-)
Historical paper.


* Lubom&#237;r Bobal&#237;k <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> [Thu, 17 Jan 2008=20
03:22:06 +0100]:
> Hello Roman and LFers!
> Thanks for OK0EMW report and captures. Do you have QSL, I sent you in
> the last month (Ty polucil QSL, kotorij ja pisal tebe v dekabre?=20
Dumaju
> uze est u tebja)?
> 73 to Moscow!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> ************************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roman .
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:23 AM
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> Subject: Re: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM
>
> OK0EMW, DI2AM, SM6BHZ in Moscow last night
>
> full report:
> www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
>
> 73!
> Roman
>
> PS- Why is my emails with attached files don't send via reflector? The
> pix is not more up 9-17 kB
>
>
> * "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com> [Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:41:55
> +0100]:
> > Received on 80m dipole:
> >
> > DI2AM -104dBm
> > OK0EMW - 117dBm
> >
> > Armchair (aural) copy.
> >
> > Slow QSB
> >
> > 73
> > Johan SM6LKM
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> Roman ..
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Many thanks Dominic.
   
  I obviously have not been reading the mail closely enough.
   
  Looks like you asked the right question.
   
  I have not progressed my rig beyond Xtal control because of the uncertanty about access to 600m.
   
  Once again many thanks for the reply.
   
  Hope to work you on 600m if we can hang on to it.
   
  73 Petefmt

ines@netbanx.com> wrote:
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  I asked this and John Gould said this:
   
  Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to know where we all stand.
   
  RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
  of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
  recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible, since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  
   
  There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!
   
  As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the application.  
   
  73 John, G3WKL
  RSGB HF Manager
   
  g3wkl@btinternet.com
   
   
  73
  Dom
   
      
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Subject: LF: Feb 1st approaches ...600m ... SP?

   
    
Hi All

     

    Does any one know the fate of UK 600m ? 

     

    Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer Watts  ;-)

     

    73 Petefmt

    
    
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<div>Many thanks Dominic.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I obviously have not been reading the mail closely enough.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Looks like you asked the right question.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I have not progressed my rig beyond Xtal control because of the uncertanty about access to 600m.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Once again many thanks for the reply.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Hope to work you on 600m if we can hang on to it.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 Petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>ines@netbanx.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator>  <STYLE>  v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  </STYLE>  <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"   /><o:SmartTagType name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType>  <STYLE>  st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }  </STYLE>    <STYLE>  <!--   /* Font Definitions */   @font-face   {font-family:Tahoma;   panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}   /* Style Definitions */   p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal   {margin:0cm;   margin-bottom:.0001pt;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";}  a:link, span.MsoHyperlink   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;}  a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;}  p   {mso-margin-top-alt:auto;   margin-right:0cm;   mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;   margin-left:0cm;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";} 
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 commented then that they would need to gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.&nbsp; I view that as sensible, since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use of the spectrum in this area of interest.&nbsp; We had a further quarterly meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait patiently!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div   class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I haven't seen the application.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">73 John, G3WKL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">RSGB HF Manager<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier   New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">g3wkl@btinternet.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">73<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> 
 <DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">  <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> owner-<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Peter March<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 30 January 2008 16:43<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName   w:st="on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> LF: Feb 1st approaches ...600m ... SP?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></div></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Hi All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does any one know the fate of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> 600m ? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:   12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Nothing on the RSGB News other than the ON killer <st1:place w:st="on">Watts</st1:place>&nbsp; ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">73 Petefmt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>  <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">  <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=1>  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Support the World Aids Awareness
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Graham,

Frequency seems to be stable about 2Hz below the announced 503.8 kHz.
Strange, the WOLF signal was visible on the disply all the time and I
lost some lines.
Decoding was made from a soundfile started at 21:37

t:  24 f:-2.374 a: 1.5 dp:128.1 ci:10 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t:  48 f:-2.372 a: 1.3 dp:127.7 ci:13 cj: 80 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t:  96 f:-2.371 a: 1.3 dp:130.7 ci:15 cj: 80 BEA62KUNS???1SE ?
t: 192 f:-2.363 pm:16720 jm:803 q: -6.4 -7.1 QF8.URHJZ81ZF1B ?
t: 288 f:-2.373 pm:25475 jm:805 q: -2.1 -3.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 384 f:-2.373 pm:25553 jm:805 q: -2.5 -4.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 480 f:-2.373 pm:25698 jm:805 q: -2.6 -5.2 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
t: 576 f:-2.373 pm:25721 jm:805 q: -3.2 -8.5 F/60CIAMO35U*7  ?

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Hello Jim,
Thanks for repeating the transmission in Wolf. I received now the first
time a signal in this mode:


2008-01-17 00:44:20 >WOLF10  -r 8000.000 -f 700 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.328 a:-0.9 dp: 47.4 ci:10 cj:  0 13 S0BN*TR73N6C ?
t:  48 f:-0.702 a: 0.4 dp: 42.8 ci: 4 cj:347 RA9P WGV8L8O1K2 ?
t:  96 f: 0.859 a:-0.7 dp: 39.4 ci:11 cj:310 H/ OF8CU4K5K6BJ ?
t: 192 f: 0.088 pm:0.227 jm:738 q: -5.9 -7.7 U/B*GSHG89*5301 ?
t: 288 f: 0.088 pm:0. 545 jm:738 q: -2.7 -4.4 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 384 f: 0.088 pm:0.832 jm:738 q: -0.6 -2.2 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 480 f: 0.088 pm:1.028 jm:738 q: -0.8 -1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 576 f: 0.088 pm:1.127 jm:738 q: -0.3 -1.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 672 f: 0.088 pm:1.258 jm:738 q:  0.4 -1.3 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 768 f: 0.088 pm:2.089 jm:738 q:  2.3  0.7 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 864 f: 0.088 pm:2.672 jm:738 q:  3.2  1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -
t: 960 f: 0.088 pm:3.161 jm:738 q:  3.9  3.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -

Very interesting i not heard the signal and not saw any signal in the
waterfall, but i decoded you until i switch off my receiver this
morning.

vy73

Marco, DD7PC

Loc: JN49ax, Rx: FT-857 & Miniwhip

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF Beacon

Dear LF Group,

The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any reports
welcome.

I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly audible, but
only strong enough to decode on the peaks of the QSB.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Hello Jim,<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2>=
<FONT  size=3D3>Thanks for repeating the transmission in Wolf. I received no=
w&nbsp;the=20
first time a signal in this mode:</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff  size=
=3D2></FONT><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2>2008-01-17 00:44:20=20
&gt;WOLF10&nbsp; -r 8000.000 -f 700 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000<BR>t:&nbsp; 24 f: 0.328=
=20
a:-0.9 dp: 47.4 ci:10 cj:&nbsp; 0 13 S0BN*TR73N6C ?<BR>t:&nbsp; 48 f:-0.702=20=
a:=20
0.4 dp: 42.8 ci: 4 cj:347 RA9P WGV8L8O1K2 ?<BR>t:&nbsp; 96 f: 0.859 a:-0.7 d=
p:=20
39.4 ci:11 cj:310 H/ OF8CU4K5K6BJ ?<BR>t: 192 f: 0.088 pm:0.227 jm:738 q: -5=
.9=20
-7.7 U/B*GSHG89*5301 ?<BR><STRONG>t: 288 f: 0.088 pm:0. 545 jm:738 q: -2.7 -=
4.4=20
HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 384 f: 0.088 pm:0.832 jm:738 q: -0.6 -2.2 HNY 08 DE=20
M0BMU -<BR>t: 480 f: 0.088 pm:1.028 jm:738 q: -0.8 -1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR=
>t:=20
576 f: 0.088 pm:1.127 jm:738 q: -0.3 -1.6 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 672 f: 0.0=
88=20
pm:1.258 jm:738 q:&nbsp; 0.4 -1.3 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 768 f: 0.088 pm:2.=
089=20
jm:738 q:&nbsp; 2.3&nbsp; 0.7 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 864 f: 0.088 pm:2.672=20
jm:738 q:&nbsp; 3.2&nbsp; 1.9 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -<BR>t: 960 f: 0.088 pm:3.161=20
jm:738 q:&nbsp; 3.9&nbsp; 3.1 HNY 08 DE M0BMU -</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Very interesting i not heard&nbsp;the=20
signal&nbsp;and not saw any signal in the waterfall, but i decoded you until=
 i=20
switch off&nbsp;my receiver this morning.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>vy73</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Marco, DD7PC</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Loc: JN49ax, </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Rx: FT-857 &amp;=20
Miniwhip<BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [</FONT><A  href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"><FONT  size=3D2>mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</FONT></A><FONT size=3D2>] On=20
Behalf Of James Moritz<BR>Sent: 16 January 2008 23:11<BR>To:=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF Beacon<BR><BR>Dear=
 LF=20
Group,<BR><BR>The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any repo=
rts=20
welcome.<BR><BR>I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly=20
audible, but only strong enough to decode on the peaks of the=20
QSB.<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de=20
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Graham,

> Stopped at moment , unable to  print localy from off air ... not sure with 
> this mode .. local rx did not decode test message .... ???
> G ..

I got only one decoded line here just after 19:30. The signal was
visible, but I saw many interruptions. QSB or tx off?


t:  24 f: 2.123 a: 0.9 dp:107.3 ci:12 cj:378 274G29C*BCP.UL7 ?
t:  48 f:-2.400 a:-0.1 dp:109.5 ci: 2 cj:165 G0NBD IO83LK *  -
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t: 192 f:-2.402 pm: 2011 jm:631 q: -6.0 -8.8 9*/QSZ7B/GOX*VT ?
t: 288 f:-2.393 pm: 3160 jm:634 q: -5.8 -9.1 7/9MDENPJY.P OX ?

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hi Graham what are you locked to ??
Alan G3NYK

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Hi All,

Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz , 

Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??

Running tx locked to  off air standard , 

intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??

tnx - Graham .



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Dear Rik, dr John, and all,

this has been a busy evening also for me!

I could hear Rik audible 5 6 9 from the beginning, but from time to
time
with deep qsb, therefore from his answer to the second station he
worked
I only got the final "v" (first thought it might have been G3KEV but
not
with a RST 339 rprt).

Luckily I also had the idea to look on the server in between, so I
learnt it had been John, GM4SLV.

Around 21.30 UTC Rik had a signal up to 579 but I had to accept that he
could not listen on 80 m.

I also observed the attempts of SM6BHZ to contact OR7T.

And then I read on the screen that GM4SLV's qrg was 502.1 kHz and that
he was listening on 3551 (much clearer than 3533) vor xband contacts! 

And this worked! I gave John 449 (I have heard him much better last
September and until November), he fell into deep qsb but continued to
hear me on 3551, so we could wait for his signal coming up again to
give
me 569 for my 30 watts on 80 m. 

On 500 kHz I am using a broad band loop aerial with 15 meters
circumference (30uH) pointing north, coupled via transformer and cable
into the shack to a selective amplifier, followed by a selective dual
gate fet mixer converter to 14 MHz and an old TS-830s.

Now I wish Rik to solve his amplifier problems and to clear the
problems
for listening on 80 meters.  

  


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Hi Luc
I am now on normal cw 502.5 if u hear me call on 3533 khz
73 Mal/G3KEV

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  Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
  No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


  Luc , ON4AOL


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Please, what power and  antenna are u using?

73

Bart
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----- Original Message ----- 
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>I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run 
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from 
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
> 
> Reports welcomed.
> 
> Mike, G3XDV.
> ==========
> 
> 
>



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What if JB put a big loading coil in the fence wire? I would think that 
would work just like our loaded short verticals...Sure there would be 
losses but we have losses in our transmitting antennas also.

Mike
WE0H


Rik Strobbe wrote:
> J.B. ,
>
> I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
> On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset 
> angle.
> But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the 
> offset angle is 78 degrees.
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?
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> 73, Rik  ON7YD


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It looks like MF and LF acty has just about fizzled out. The reflector has
gone the same way, no discussion or observations. LF declined a long time
ago bar a couple of dedicated stations that keep plugging away. MF has not
even been going a year yet in the UK and only about four stations are really
active.
The effort on these low bands certainly does not justify the work involved,
special antennas and transmitters.
On the other hand 160m is going strong both local and dxing plus all the
other hf bands.
With so few stations mode diversifications does not help, all using
different modes and very little real communications taking place. The only
consistant activity is those stations using CW. This applies mostly to 500
khz, and this band is not attracting big numbers because the TX has to be
home built, antennas take up a good amount of space, that most amateurs do
not have and good CW operating is an advantage, all of which most cannot
fulfill.
Except there is some miracle around the corner the whole thing will just
fizzle out.
de Mal/G3KEV




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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the link!  I think this is something I'm going to experiment
with this spring and summer when the weather is more conducive to
working outside.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle





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Johan,

indeed there are some limitations to MMANA. And when getting a 
negative radiation resistance one should get cautious.
But for small verticals and small loops MMANA seems to work OK. I am 
using version 1.0.0.65 of MMANA-GAL.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 15:27 22/01/2008, you wrote:
>Rik Strobbe wrote:
>>It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to 
>>be long  on 500kHz ...
>>Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
>Hello Rik,
>
>MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on 
>MiniNEC, it does not properly model how the "real world" ground 
>interacts with the near field. As far as I know, it uses the ground 
>parameters for the far field calculations only. In other words, I 
>don't think MMANA is able to make meaningful performance predictions 
>for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.
>
>I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different 
>heights from 1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and 
>impedance figures were ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and 
>sometimes the real part of the impedance was negative! :-D
>Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to 
>trust the radiation patterns either.
>
>73
>Johan SM6LKM


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Hello LF group,

Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.

Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
damage.

Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
(not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
4 levels from 2m up to 11m.

This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.

The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
abates...


Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
key) in the near future.

Cheers,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the report and the 'grabber'!
Poor conditions, noisy band, so I make short transmissions to save 
electricity and 'save the planet'!

Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Subject:  LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX
>
> WD2XGJ ( just visible a short moment !  )
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
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Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the stron=
g signal performance to be wanting:

http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter March=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers


  Hi Laurence
  Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,  s=
ame principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much cheape=
r).

  You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also dow=
n load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to t=
une all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the=
 SDR RF section feeding your computer.=20

  This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out=
.

  Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if y=
ou are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does=
 just that... at a cost though!!

  One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic displ=
ay or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ....=
. The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other d=
ecoder features are to follow.

  So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached=20=
and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable conne=
ctivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.

  The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ co=
nnection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fittin=
g a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.

  One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for late=
r interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the origi=
nal recording.=20

  The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay yo=
u can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all the=
 signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section y=
our radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!

  Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group for up to date information.

  I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments=20=
are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.

  I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every=
 sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.

  Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the=
 free software.

  73 petefmt=20




  lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
    Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
    But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
    At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
    a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. lo=
oks=20
    good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
    I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccess=
esary=20
    to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or=20=
does it=20
    do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
    Any help gratefully received.
    73 Laurie





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an anal=
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V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SD=
R/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SD=
R-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5=
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"><B>From:</B>=20
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</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:=
10=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Laurence</DIV>
  <DIV>Whilst&nbsp;I don't have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I=20=
do=20
  with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio=20
  frequency (and much much cheaper).</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. Y=
ou=20
  can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you th=
e=20
  ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as=20=
if=20
  you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to tr=
y=20
  out.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but=
 if=20
  you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that d=
oes=20
  just that... at a cost though!!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic=20
  display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss=20=
CW=20
  ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it o=
ther=20
  decoder features are to follow.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file atta=
ched=20
  and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable=20
  connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.</DI=
V>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a=20=
IQ=20
  connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth=20
  fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.</DI=
V>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole ban=
d=20
  for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during=
 the=20
  original recording. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small=20=
out=20
  lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advan=
cing=20
  where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to t=
he=20
  RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes=20
  place!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Follow the <A     href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_y=
lc=3DX3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM=
5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--"     target=3D_blank r=
el=3Dnofollow><FONT color=3D#003399>Softrock-40 Interest Group=20
  </FONT></A>for up to date information.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's=
=20
  comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero=20
  cost.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in=20
  every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</=
DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Try <A     href=3D"http://www.flex-radio.com/">http://www.flex-radio.=
com/</A>&nbsp;but=20
  ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 petefmt&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead=20
  &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq     style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p=
x; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well=20
    I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<BR>But all this investigati=
on=20
    has whetted my appetite for something better.<BR>At the moment I am torn=
=20
    between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<BR>a bit difficult to drive bu=
t=20
    could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <BR>good for LF. Or a tak=
e=20
    drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<BR>I really am in t=
he=20
    dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <BR>to=20
    re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display o=
r=20
    does it <BR>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot=20
    resolution?<BR>Any help gratefully received.<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQUOT=
E><BR>
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Ive now opened up Grabber 1 in the 137.7765 to 137.7817 or so at dot 60 slow=
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Laurence 9 V1 LF Singapore
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ything ran smoothly here for a couple of weeks - but the main air con in the=
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

     Thank you for the captures!
Your 'grabber' is a most excellent service to the LF community!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  Warren and  LFers ,
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> Vy good propagation , last night i copy  :
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> WD2XGJ ( Visible until 10:30 utc 11:30 loc !.......  )
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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> The captures of night are with this URL :
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Dear OMs,
on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
and  RU6LA mm
Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73

It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?

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Propagation can be so different and a bit confusing on lf untill you get the=
 hang of it...180khz odd there is a constant battle between groundwave and s=
kywave after sunset  ..when the sky wave is in phase or additive to ground w=
ave sigs can be really good...skywave out of phase can and does completly ca=
ncel sigs and zero copy..the process in zl the phase cycle can vary from 5 t=
o 20mins...clasic path between timaru and wellington northisland sigs up the=
 coast during daylight are constant and usable ssb and cw  real time morse t=
hat is..inland hams located central otago here no ground wave on lf from wel=
lington..but come sunset and the reflective layers are working  on 180khz in=
 comes good signals..but on sea coast sigs either come stong or disappear al=
together from wellington...luck of the dice    all interesting fun though  .=
..whose got an antennae that can split  sky wave from ground wave   ??   geo=
rge zl3pn  73s

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Gid-day all...Yes low long wire work very well if you have the space..In my=20=
tests of lf which go back 15 years with  special permit i carried out recept=
ion tests with 1000ft on foot hills to west of timaru next to the estate of=20=
late lord elworthy who was head of raf uk .thepickup of beacons and quietnes=
s directivity etc most effective...variants of that  of only  100ft of wire=20=
2or 3 ft above ground also..u must drive long pipe into ground each end and=20=
use capacitive or inductive means to couple..2 wires at right angles and 4 p=
ipes and switch directivity..that was tried by several lf hams...lots of tri=
cks to use on lf  ...first lf transmissions in timaru 100years ago by a tech=
 school boy who jammed out the british navy war ships in our port..their xta=
l sets wernt selective  hihi..the brits pounced on him he had a spark tx fed=
 into a disused telephone wire...he became a ham..i started off as school bo=
y ham from that school 58years ago...sorry to bore u brits    george   zl3pn=
   timaru   (the irish capital of nz  lol  sitting between the scots of dune=
din and english city of chch )  cu

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Hello Jim, nice conditions again tonight.  


F4DTL in  JN18FP

RX : IC 7400
Ant: active loop LFL 1010
 
 
2008-01-18 22:48:07  >WOLF10  -r 11025.000 -f 777 -t  1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000 
t:  24 f:-0.961 a:-1.3 dp: 77.7 ci:15 cj: 72  73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
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t: 864 f:-0.957 pm:310.6  jm:817 q: 13.1 13.4 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
t: 960 f:-0.957 pm:311.2  jm:817 q: 12.7 12.8 73 GL DE M0BMU  - 
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Hello,
The answer is there :
http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php

regards

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Dear LF Group,

The WOLF 10 mode beacon is now running on 503.800kHz. Any reports welcome.

I monitored G0NBD's RTTY signal earlier - this was weakly audible, but only
strong enough to decode on the peaks of the QSB.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Warren,

I had a mistake, the Doppler effect was negative, e.g. -4Hz; I forgot I was=20=
receiving on LSB.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: K2ORS=20
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  Jose,

     Great !  Thank you,!
  Evidently some ionospheric bending as I suspected, there are two other rep=
orts from Europe as far as I know.

  Please send your report to:
  mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu

  73 Warren K2ORS


   =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jose Manuel=20
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    Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Exper=
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    Warren and all,

    Detected here some weak echoes even after Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about=20=
-4=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler effect.

    Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB, even 2 peaks in the same pulse,=
 but always visibles.


    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



    ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: K2ORS=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:01 PM
      Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Exp=
eriment


      perhaps you will get some bending by the ionosphere or alternatively s=
ome 'horizon gain'?

      73 Warren K2ORS





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e.g. -4Hz; I forgot I was receiving on LSB.</FONT></DIV>
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heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Great !&nbsp; Thank=20
  you,!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Evidently some ionospheric bending as I=20
  suspected, there are two other reports from Europe as far as I=20
  know.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please send your report to:</FONT></DIV>
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ka.edu">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Warren and all,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Detected here some weak echoes even aft=
er=20
    Moonset at 5:50 UTC, at about -4=BA of altitude. Same +4 Hz Doppler=20
    effect.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Direct 2 seconds pulses with strong QSB=
, even 2=20
    peaks in the same pulse, but always visibles.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV=
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perhaps you will get some bending by=20=
the=20
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Paul-Henrik,

nice to be heard at 1680km.
Calculated Rrad of my antenna is 0.25 Ohm and antennacurrent is 1.4 A  
so theoretical ERP is 0.5 Watt. But I guess that the many trees  
surrounding the antenna absorb half of it, more likely it 0.25 W ERP.
A long way to go to the 5 Watt ERP limit ...

73, Rik

Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> LF
>
> 20.05UTC
>
> OR7T 419 to 519 calling CQ on 503.1kHz
>
> Then in QSO with G3ZWH (very weak here)
>
> Well done Rik!
>
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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>



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Tnx again Lubos!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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  GM LFers!

  Nice strong signal from DI2BO yet.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx again&nbsp;Lubos!</FONT></DIV>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:08:58 -0000
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Does anyone have an e-mail address for Doug, G3ZWH? I had a QSO with
> him earlier, and said I would send him some info.


I'd also appreciate the info as I've heard him several times over the
last week or so and despite many, many calls he's always failed to hear
me. At least an email would let him know he's making the trip to the
outer reaches of the Empire! 

I suppose a QSL to the address listed on QRZ.COM would also suffice.

Cheers,

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You guys should try to get 501-510kc and hopefully US can get down to 
501kc rather than our 505kc we have now.

Mike
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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
> (upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>> On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
>> >
>> But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall a 
>> time when in the United States of America top band was not available 
>> in many areas.
>>
>> 73
>> John F5VLF/G3PAI
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Good point John,



But, personally I  could not see the point of a grabber on 80 meter's ?



G ..



>>>  I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
>>>  rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:43:34 -0000
> "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> Turn the speed up boys
>
> No, for the reasons explained in a previous posting to the list.
>
> Personally speaking, my grabber isn't intended to allow remote stations
> to follow CW QSOs by eye via the internet, it is there to provide a
> visual snapshot of band activity and to act as a remote pair of ears
> for other stations.
>
> The refresh and scrolling speed is chosen to allow this.
>
>
> If others want faster scrolling to read CW by eye then they are of
> course free to use their computers, receivers, antennas, broadband
> connection and web-space as they see fit.
>
> Mal, if  you think such a facility would benefit 500 users then I
> suggest you set one up yourself. As in all things, if you want
> something doing you're always better to do it yourself.
>
> I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
> rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.
>
>
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> 




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Greetings all,

G0MRF@aol.com schrieb:
>  
> I have 5MB download speed here, so perhaps an issue with the number of 
> users at present.
This is what I guess, too. If more than two or three users request the 
same image (spectrogram), the file is created "new" (with slightly 
different contents), and the first user receives for example the first 
half of an older file, and the second half of a newer file which was 
created when a new file request arrives.

Similar effects can be seen on other grabbers (though less frequent), 
when the file is updated just in the moment it is downloaded. Making the 
refresh interval longer will reduce the effect, but not cure it.
The only cure I can think of at the moment is to produce a new filename 
for every new request, and delete old files only if they are not used 
any longer. I will try to reproduce the effect locally (with a few PCs 
in the local network).

I will let you know as soon as an improved version is available. Until 
then, the easiest solution would be to periodically upload the waterfall 
image via FTP to a server with a larger bandwidth (remember, the upload 
bitrate of a "home" ADSL connection is much lower than the download 
bitrate).

Cheers, 
  Wolf .



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Dear John, Marco, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments. I will run the WOLF beacon again tonight, probably
from around 2200utc onwards. On W1TAG's suggestion, I intend to change the
operating frequency to 503.8kHz.

I monitored the transmission overnight, using a separate RX and PC running
WOLF - the carrier frequency drifted slowly between nominal and about 0.1Hz
low, which should be well within the capabilities of the WOLF software.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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On 20 Jan 2008 at 13:48, gboorerzl3pn wrote:

> thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should
> be able to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of
> the hams lucky enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away
> back in 50s on 14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in
> group a all silent keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora

Sorry, but what has this to do with 136kHz or 500kHz?

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Hf packet test  110 baud , 200 Hz shift =20

=20

Running  unproto beacon ,  using HF Packet ,=20

=20

Station set up=20

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Prog - Multipsk   HF  packet=20

Max tone frequency  1000 Hz (purple mark)

TX ,  Carrier freq , 502.000 KHz  .. ie  rx dial set , 502 , usb=20

TX  Ae Frequency - 503.000 Khz ,  max tone=20

Mode , USB=20

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Test message=20

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CQ test qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com  >



Reports welcom, can you resolve data ?



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Hi Uwe ,
Nothing seen on the grabber, it is perhaps: EW6GB ?
I copied it Saturday around this frequency !
73 qro J-P f1afj

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
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> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
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> who was it?
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Hello Hartmut and Joe ,

Nil on my screen !
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Joe,
>
> jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
>> The transmiter is still operating normally and
>> will reamin in operation.
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>
> I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've=20
> got some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>
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>
>
>

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Hi Andy most if not all of the amateur receivers sold recently have not
AGC-off function. As I told Laurie the only one I know is the AOR 7030 which
has performance as good, if not better in some aspects that the 1792 (well
it was British designed and manufactured). The Lowe HF 150, 225 and most of
the Japanese designed receivers seem to rely on have a mode-selected agc
time constant. It means you dont need manual gain controls, cleaner panel,
never mind the performance look at the acreage of chrome etc. Even quite
expensive wideband receiver like the Icom R8500 have to be "bodged" to put
the AGC off. This is despite them having IF output for spectrum monitors.

I am too far away but isnt there anyone that could look at Laurie's RX they
are not really anything out of the ordinary and should be repairable. Full
service gen is available. We cant afford to lose LF stalwarts that easily !!

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Which are the receivers you have encountered that *do* suffer this problem
> of non-switchable AGC?  It doesn't sound like a very healthy trend at all
!
>
> I'd use an SDR-IQ for LF these days. In fact I use one for most
> listening/monitorinf now. Its better, more adaptable and just generally
> nicer to use than the RA1792.  And infinitley better to tune with point
and
> click on the waterfall display.  The only thing it suffers from is not
> having a clock locked to a master reference.   Needs 66.667MHz and I've
just
> never got round to making a locked clock yet.  But its probably stable
> enough for QRSS as it is.
>
> AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume
> constant.   The waterfall display operates independently of the demod and
is
> always at fixed gain.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 11/01/2008, lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes on LF.
> > This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a replacement
> > receiver.
> > This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP techniques
> > for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. None of
the
> > receivers
> > I have looked at have an AGC OFF  facility.This means that if one of
these
> > receivers
> > is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within the
pass
> > band
> > will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak signal
could
> > quite
> > disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the digital
> > filter so that
> > signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce
> > de-sensitisation, and this
> > could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq.
> > Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?
> > Or do I look for another R1792
> >
> > 73 Laurie G3AQC
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>



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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports from last night, Including my first 500kHz report
from Poland via SQ7MPJ. The beacon will be running again tonight from
2200utc with the same settings as before (503.800kHz, WOLF 20 mode)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Nicolas,
TNX for capture!

Strange propagation was in RU6L QTH also at night Jan 5-6:
RA9AT's and DK4U's signals also was faded from "FB O" in 3s mode to down to "T" in 30s mode of Argo and not any traces on XKO and only some XGJ's traces abt my sunrise.

73! Ed RU6LA

-----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hello Ed, this is my screen capture at 20H56 Z.
> Stange reception, good at the begining and weak a the end of your CQ in  
> QRSS10.
>  
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> 
> RX: IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT
> 


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Hi Luc I guess you are just tripping the limit. I think a total size
including text and headers of 32kB was once quoted.
Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc






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Dear OMs,
thank You for Your replies. Next weekend I will be qrv again on 137k77 in qr=
ss3/ qrss10. It is a challenge to transmit from a little cottage with garden=
 in urban noise environment. Please answer on my calls. there is allways a f=
ree frequency in qrss-bandwidth.=20

55,
Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND


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> Dear OMs,
> on my new qth JN48HQ on Saturday I heard  DK4U (qrss10) mm 20.11z
> and  RU6LA mm
> Sunday 6.1.2007 15.20z wkd DL4AU  mm/oo.0n 137k73
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> It seems that there are periods, where for me traffic is possible.
> Anyone who has recorded my cq-calls ?
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Hello Lubos,

Thank you for the report & screen shot, I will continue with the 
transmission, it may get better for you.

My power tonight is 65 to 70 mW ERP due to the blustery winds twisting the 
capacity top hat & causing it to shield the elevated inductance. I will wait 
for better weather to repair the antenna.

The 12 wpm CW is just visible in your capture.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Subject: LF: [500] G4WGT_ OK2BVG


Hi Gary!
That´s fine, I see your signal. The conditions are not too good, band is
very noisy and signal has got long and deep QSB. But ... I can see your
QRSS3.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG




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Hartmut,

I'm curious about the >0.1Hz drift during the recording period. Do you 
think that was happening at your end?

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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Jim,
>  decoded from soundfiles.


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Hello Walter,

thanks for the report.
My 500kHz setup is very experimental. As the UK=20
NoV's may expire by the end of February 2008 I=20
wanted to be QRV asap and make some QSO's.
The PA is a modified 137kHz PA but efficiency is=20
very bad (40 %) and thus the PA gets very hot=20
what forces me to keep transmissions short.
Also at this moment I have only 1 antenna, the=20
500kHz antenna and this one is deaf on HF (as=20
expected). So no xband for the moment.
Next week will be very busy, so I won't be QRV=20
nor have time to do some changes.
After that I will try to build a proper 500kHz=20
transmitter and hang up some wire for xband.
I am tempted by Jim's 500 kHz TX design and will=20
try to adapt it for higher power (400 Watt) in=20
order to get my ERP in the 1..3 Watt range.
That should give me a solid signal all over Europe and maybe allow some DX.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 10:08 31/01/2008, you wrote:
>It seems the mail system did not accept my mail from yesterday eve.
>
>Dear Rik,
>           your signal was mostly audible here=20
> in JN59NO, when you made the QSO=B4s with G3XVL=20
> and GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is=20
> 95=B5V. Heard G3XVL for a short time.
>I called you on 3533kHz  for several times. Hw abt QSX?
>73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
>


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Hello Walter,<br><br>
thanks for the report.<br>
My 500kHz setup is very experimental. As the UK NoV's may expire by the
end of February 2008 I wanted to be QRV asap and make some QSO's.<br>
The PA is a modified 137kHz PA but efficiency is very bad (40 %) and thus
the PA gets very hot what forces me to keep transmissions short.<br>
Also at this moment I have only 1 antenna, the 500kHz antenna and this
one is deaf on HF (as expected). So no xband for the moment.<br>
Next week will be very busy, so I won't be QRV nor have time to do some
changes.<br>
After that I will try to build a proper 500kHz transmitter and hang up
some wire for xband.<br>
I am tempted by Jim's 500 kHz TX design and will try to adapt it for
higher power (400 Watt) in order to get my ERP in the 1..3 Watt
range.<br>
That should give me a solid signal all over Europe and maybe allow some
DX.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
<br>
At 10:08 31/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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<font size=3D2>Dear Rik,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; your signal was
mostly audible here in JN59NO, when you made the QSO=B4s with G3XVL and
GW4HXO. Peak was S5 with the meter, that is 95=B5V. Heard G3XVL for a short
time.<br>
I called you on 3533kHz&nbsp; for several times. Hw abt QSX?<br>
73&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DI2AG / DJ2LF<br>
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
2 partial traces , 1 "N" at 02:20 (good)
however the band was not very clean this night

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj



















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Hi Finbar, LF,

Copy your Feld Hell transmission OK 100%.

Screen print to large for LF so sent direct.

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Hello James,

Was your signal audible ( 10/15 dB with the top of the noise ) but
it is strange step possible to decode ? however my configuration is
correct ( I copy WD2XES well from 137 Khz ) in attachment a copy
of Winrad.
=20
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon last night. At least 2 stations
> were able to decode it correctly, so at least I know it is set up right! I
> will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode=
,
> 503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hello DJ8WX!
capture of your beacon here in KO85sv.
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:27:17 +0000 (GMT)
Mike Thayne <g3gms@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John
> Pleased to hear from you again. I just wanted to let you know my 500
> experiments would have ground to a halt had it not been for the
> assistance you have given me in providing your Grabber.


Hello Mike, LF

It's been nice to get back in the shack and exchange some emails, even
if I can't now get on the key on 500 until the antenna is repaired.

I'm glad my grabber has been of use, despite the inability to read
full speed CW on the waterfall -hi!! Your kind words are a great source
of encouragement that I've been able to provide something of value to
the "500kHz community". 

At least my hardware can be used to help others improve their stations.

This is a better use for my gear than me just turning it on for an hour
or so every few days, bashing out a few CQs and then turning it all off
again. 

To have a 24/7 remote receiver showing the full band at least allows
everyone to get a rough signal report from this far flung corner of the
UK, whether I'm available or not. Of course a real QSO is great, but
for those of us with jobs and other commitments outside of amateur
radio this isn't always possible.

Hope to see you on 500 soon,

John



 



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Lubos
GI4DPE has been active on beacon mode all day at NORMAL CW not qrs.
73 Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:06 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE_beacon


  Hallo Finbar and LFers!

  I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only.=20

  =20

  Have a nice weekend!

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-S=
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Hello all,

In practice even a short in regards of wavelength wire on the ground shows 
good directivity. A 100 m long untermintated wire on the ground is already 
an excellent antenna from 250 kHz and up. This antenna is unidirectional.

I have been testing some real barbed wire fences of 1500 metre long, which 
showed a very narrow beamwidth in one direction.

If you have the opportunity, there are many usuable fences out there which 
can be put to good use as a reception antenna. You might be in for a nice 
surprise.

As these antenna don't work as normal antennas, the modelling programs won't 
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Maybe they were trying to warm up the air so spring would arrive soon 
this year? hi hi...

Mike
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lawrence mayhead wrote:
> Not strictly LF, I know, but I am interested in propagation especially,
> trans- polar routes.
> BUT what exactly is this experiment proving ? I don't doubt that 
> several Mw
> directed  at the moon will result in some reflections, in fact I am 
> surprised
> that more people did'nt hear it, is this the purpose ?
> So I am confused, can anyone help ?
> 73 Laurie


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Laurie

> Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ?

The Icom R75 is working well for many of us.

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Sorry Jim

Your signal is  10 db over the noise floor, found the software, but dont see 
how to  point it at my out board -usb- sound card , I assume you can select 
, but how ?

Tnx

G ..


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> Dear LF Group,
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> Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
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What a fantastic range of RF products,!  And all without the nausea of long
delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added on.

Incidently, why is "Low Noise" the Italian for, well,  Low Noise ??:-)

Andy  G4JNT


On 17/01/2008, cricri <cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
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> Hello,
> The answer is there :
> http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php
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> regards
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> Xtian / F1VL
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> Nick Mclean (SYD) a =E9crit :
> >  Hi all, Does anybody on the group know of a parts supplier that can
> > supply small quantities of BB119 or BA102 Varicap diodes?
> > 73's
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> > Nic McLean
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> > VK2KXN / VK5ZAT
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> > Tel:  02 99410619
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<div>What a fantastic range of RF products,!&nbsp; And all without the nause=
a of long delivery times, extra customs delay and rip-off duties being added=
 on.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Incidently, why is &quot;Low Noise&quot; the Italian for, well,&nbsp; L=
ow Noise ??:-)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17/01/2008, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername=
">cricri</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr">cricri.f1vl@wanad=
oo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hello,<br>The answer is there :<br=
><a href=3D"http://www.rfmicrowave.it/eng/home_eng.php">http://www.rfmicrowa=
ve.it/eng/home_eng.php
</a><br><br>regards<br><br>Xtian / F1VL<br><br><br>Nick Mclean (SYD) a =E9cr=
it :<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi all, Does anybody on the group know of a parts su=
pplier that can<br>&gt; supply small quantities of BB119 or BA102 Varicap di=
odes?
<br>&gt; 73&#39;s<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nic McLean<br>&gt;<br>&gt; VK2KXN=20=
/ VK5ZAT<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Tel:&nbsp;&nbsp;02 99410619<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Fax: 02=
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Hi Luc!
I normaly using JPG files no bigger than 25kB and it works fine. 
 
Lubos, OK2BVG 
 
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Luc van Achte
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
To: LF
Subject: LF: [500] General question
 
Hi LFers .
 
Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from
OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?
 
 
73  Luc
 
 
 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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e<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 01, 20=
08
10:16 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: [500] General
question</span></font></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi LFers .</span></fon=
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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there a limit on th=
e size to sent
a picture too the group ;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I've tried two times t=
o send the
captured file with the signals from OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It's a JPG -file and n=
ot bigger then
39kB .</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyone ?</span></font>=
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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73&nbsp; Luc</span></f=
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Hello folks,

DI2BO on 505.015 kHz is tempoarily off.

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In coaxing the draft into the format required by IARU, and re-checking some
of the references, I've noticed an inconsistency between my last draft and
the current Band Plan. This is that the agreed transmission bandwidth for
the band is 200Hz maximum.   As I don't see a strong case for proposing that
this is changed I have limited the amendments to reducing the guidelines on
usage.   =20

My thanks to Mike, G3XDV, who made some useful suggestions directly on the
earlier wording.

The latest draft is attached, although it should be noted that at present it
carries not weight, and if put forward to Conference would need to be
discussed and ageed before being implemented.

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It is now about 11 months from the next triennial IARU Region 1 Conference.
This is an opportunity to gain agreement on a wide range of IARU policy and
procedure changes in our hobby.   A number of people agree that the current
comments re the 136kHz band in the Band Plan need revising to reflect the
current operating conditions.  Following the success of WRC07 in gaining
wider access for Amateurs on the band, there is also a case for adding in
some appropriate wording to reflect the increased access in the near future.

Whilst I've floated a slightly earlier version of the attached text across
one of two of those on this reflector I thought that it would be helpful to
seek wider views on the draft before I submit it to the RSGB Board for their
endorsement.=20

In putting forward this proposal the opportunity for other national
societies to make different proposals is not affected.  It would, however,
make the process on reaching the final agreement if there is a general
consensus on proposals being put forward.  I therefore welcome any comments,
particularly those that might affect people in Regions 2 and 3.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager
IARU Region 1 LF Coordinator=20

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thanks for info..so glad my family in england and other KIWIS should be able 
to see the state funeral of our sir ed hillary..i was one of the hams lucky 
enough to contact the trans antartic nz expedition away back in 50s on 
14mhz..i have still got qsl card..the three hams in group a all silent 
keys..george zl3pn 73s kia-ora
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <steve.jepson@gmail.com>
To: <amateur-radio@mail.nzart.org.nz>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: [amateur-radio] Funeral Coverage Satellite details


> At 09:16 p.m. 18/01/2008, you wrote:>Yes,>>IS2 C band - TVNZ service and 
> full uniterupted coverage on TV1.>>There ya have it.There is also suppose 
> to be a special satellite feed for Nepal TV. Asiasat2 would be my 
> pickAssisting Wide Intrntl Coverage of HIllary FuneralFriday, 18 January 
> 2008, 11:08 amPress Release: Television New ZealandTVNZ Assists Wide 
> International Media Coverage of Hillary FuneralAs host broadcaster of the 
> State Funeral of Sir Edmund Hillary, TVNZ wants to maximise the 
> accessibility of the broadcast to all New Zealanders, and to the rest of 
> the world.In addition to TVNZ's own live broadcast on TV ONE, live 
> streaming on tvnz.co.nz and replay on TVNZ ondemand, TVNZ has offered the 
> broadcast free of charge to domestic and international radio and 
> television broadcasters and agencies.So far the following news 
> organisations have requested access to the TVNZ feed:ABC Australia, Al 
> Jazeera, APTN, BBC, Channel 9 Australia, Channel 10 Australia, CNN, EBU 
> (European Broadcasting Union), Reuters Australia, SBS Australia, Sky News 
> Australia, Prime/Sky, Radio Works, TV Works, and Newstalk ZB.TVNZ has also 
> organised a special satellite link for Nepal TV to allow the live 
> broadcast to be screened there.In Antarctica, the live broadcast will be 
> fed to Scott Base via TVNZ's Pacific Service, which will also carry the 
> ceremony.Chief Executive Rick Ellis said the decision to make the 
> broadcast available without charge was recognition of the unique position 
> Sir Edmund held in the eyes of the world.TVNZ's live coverage of the State 
> Funeral will begin at 10am on Tuesday, with commentary provided before and 
> after the service itself by broadcasters Simon Dallow and Mark Sainsbury. 
> The service in St Mary's Church in the grounds of Holy Trinity Cathedral 
> in Parnell will be broadcast without commentary, unless points of 
> explanation are absolutely necessary.ENDS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <amateur-radio@nzart.org.nz>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:12 PM
> Subject: [amateur-radio] Suggestion from george f boorer
>
>
>> Hi amateur-radio nz,
>>
>>
>> george f boorer stopped by Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
>> and suggested that you visit the following URL:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2008/sir_edmund_hillary_state_funeral.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is their message....
>> I hope they relay it live on television in england so my son and family 
>> can see it...lets change the queens chain around all our lakes rivers and 
>> sea coast to the hillary chain..then us true old kiwis will always 
>> remember our great country.
>>
>> Southgate Amateur Radio Club's website
>>
>> http://www.southgatearc.org/
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Hi Mark,

Sorry to report that the situation is the same for me as before. Only small 
strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.

Surely the slow link is adequate, what do others think ?

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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Mark,

Just had a look, but only seeing a small strip at the top of the screen, 
which is flickering ,  only way to  view full page, is to  click on the 
'slow' link ..

Graham ..
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 PM
  Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


  Gents,
  Thanks to Wolfgang DL4YHF, the grabber at my QTH is now running a new beta 
version of Spectrum lab, that should stop the problem of multiple users 
getting partial images.
  After an initial rush of activity, the number of users has calmed down, 
rather as expected.
  Feel free to jump on board and try to break it again!
  The system is connected to my main antenna but this is at minimum height 
and not correctly matched. Still it works pretty well and many signals were 
visible last night.
  I have also got the magnetic antenna working, (placed temporarily on the 
shed roof) and it will be re-mounted when the weather permits, it seems 
slightly better than the reduced height main antenna.

  I dont have the fantastically low noise floor that John GM4SLV offers, but 
I hope to leave the grabber running for the duration of the UK experiment or 
longer, if it is considerd useful. It is far enough away from other grabbers 
to perhaps be of some use for the experiment. It is also a testing ground 
for possible similar systems at SHF giving 'inverse' beacons for propagation 
indication.

  any comments or problems encounterd, please let me know!
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM
  www.dc2light.co.uk
  follow the MF / LF link, at the bottom of the page is the grabber link.


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Hi Mike,
Your signal is good !
see on my grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 J-P f1afj JN06HT


Mike Dennison a =E9crit :
> I have at last got a system reliable enough (fingers crossed) to run=20
> an overnight DX beacon. I will run QRSS60, starting at each hour from=20
> 1800UTC until 0900, sending 'XDV'. Frequency is 136.3188kHz.
>
> Reports welcomed.
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According to Buckmaster ZWH's locator is quoted as being JO01jg

73s Tracey

He is also the latest addition to my 500kHz RX-log as reported earlier here.
Apart from an e-mail address for bringing the good news to him I also miss 
his
locator. Any help is highly appreciated as the usual sources don't have this
info for him.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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WE2XGR/6 559 solid audio copy at 2348 utc 2nd Jan 2008

The usual dips in qsb.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough


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st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500K=
HZ.. 73S GEORGE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Strobbe=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:33 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  Mike,

  it started on 15 januari 2008.
  All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the give=
n restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.
  Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this al=
location until BIPT tells us otherwise.
  Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you ne=
ed a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. Operating 600m as ON=
/Gxxxx is not permitted.

  73, Rik ON7YD

  At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:

    Hello Rik and group,
    =20
    Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will s=
tart?
    Maybe I have missed it.
    =20
    Best regards
    =20
    Mike
    =20
    GW4HXO.
    ________________________________________________________________________=
_
    =20

    Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium
    =20
    Dear all,
    =20
    today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can =20
    use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds, =20
    so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
    =20
    I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
    =20
    73, Rik  ON7YD
    =20
    =20


  Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more info=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz=20=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mike,<BR><BR>it started on 15 januari 2008.<BR>All holders=20=
of a=20
  "full licence" can use the new allocation within the given restrictions (m=
ax.=20
  5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special permit required.<BR>Interesting to=20
  notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this allocation until=20=
BIPT=20
  tells us otherwise.<BR>Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEP=
T=20
  agreements, so you need a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this ban=
d.=20
  Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.<BR><BR>73, Rik ON7YD<BR><BR>A=
t=20
  11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:<BR>
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er New, Courier">Hello Rik and group,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Can you please=20
    confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will start?<BR>Maybe=20=
I=20
    have missed it.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Best=20
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    LF: 500 kHz in Belgium<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Dear all,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>today we (UBA=
)=20
    received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can&nbsp; <BR>use the=20
    segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,&nbsp; <BR>=
so=20
    including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I will try=
 to=20
    get QRV as soon as possible.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>73, Rik&nbsp;=20
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HNY Dave,
last night i copied now the first time also your beacon on 503.7KHz -
amazing!

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC

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Hi Gary!
That=B4s fine, I see your signal. The conditions are not too good, band is
very noisy and signal has got long and deep QSB. But ... I can see your
QRSS3.

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

*********************************

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] OK2BVG_G4WGT_ 500KHz test

Hi Lubos, LF,

I will continue with the test transmission until I retire to bed which
will=20
be about 2300 to 2330 utc.

There may be some short breaks but the transmission will be back
continuous=20
from 2200 utc.

The CW ID is now 12 wpm.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Subject: LF: [500] OK2BVG_G4WGT_ 500KHz test


> Hello Gary and LFers!
> I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
> will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
> receiver will be ON.
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> *****************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:32 PM
> To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
> Subject: LF: 500KHz test
>
> Hi LF,
>
> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
>
> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

       Thanks for the report!
I did a short low-power (250 watts) test last night.
Conditions do not seem to be very good.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> DJ8WX
>
> WD2XGJ ( just visible one "X" in qrss120 at 02:30 , Warren what your power 
> ? )
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Vern,

almost omnidirectional and 90 degrees takeoff.
But don't believe too much of that.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 16:40 22/01/2008, you wrote:
>HI Rik...
>
>I use a 2000' and 1000' unterminated longwires that simply lay on the ground
>and are used specifically for 500khz and down. I have been very impressed
>with their performance on NDB's etc. Beacons ranging in the 5000-7000 km
>range are heard on a nightly basis. Just wondering what your software say's
>for these as far as expected performance.
>
>Vern - VE1VDM
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>J.B. ,
>
>I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
>On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
>But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
>offset angle is 78 degrees.
>It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be long
>on 500kHz ...
>Or does MMANA not work properly ?
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
> >Hello LFers & Lowfers,
> >
> >I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on an existing
> >fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
> >3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3 feet off the
> >ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
> >The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is a stainless
> >steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a cedar tree at ground level.
> >
> >The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my QTH favours
> >Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
> >off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander and Shanwick in
> >the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire is several S units stronger
> >and MUCH quieter than my 80 M inverted V.
> >
> >On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions with better
> >signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip or untuned delta loop.
> >The same holds true for listening around the broadcast LW & MW bands or
> >NDB chasing.
> >The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the noise on the
> >longwire.
> >
> >Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising result, if
> >that's the only option you've got!
> >
> >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> >Solar and wind powered
> >Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> >EN93dr
> >
> >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
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Jim,
 decoded from soundfiles.

73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp 

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Hello J B and all ,
look at : =20
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=3DPTO1&Sect2=3DHITOFF&d=3DP=
ALL&p=3D1&u=3D/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=3D1&f=3DG&l=3D50&s1=3D3984839.PN.&=
OS=3DPN/3984839&RS=3DPN/3984839
73 qro J-P f1afj


J. B. Weazle McCreath a =E9crit :
> Hello Lowfers & LFers,
>
> My good wife gave me Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium
> as one of my Christmas gifts.  On page 3 is an article which describes a
> very clever way of placing inductive loading at the top of a tower which
> is part of a top loaded monopole. The author is John Belrose, VE2CV.
>
> It's done by placing an insulated conductor inside the upper portion of
> the tower.  The top of the conductor extends above the tower slightly
> and has the top loading attached to it.  The lower end of the conductor
> is connected to the tower to form an air-insulated coaxial line.  Moving
> the position of this lower connection varies the length of the coaxial lin=
e
> which in turn varies the inductance.
>
> Has anyone here heard of this previously and/or tried it?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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hi ..i hope you have tracked down the noise source problem.....plazma tv 
sets can be bad..also those compact flourescent lamp bulbs...noisy 
devices...have few in house and turn off when on 181khz...i was testing out 
500khz reciever the other nite and what a noise there...the penny dropped 
and i realised the back wokshop lite was on with eco lamp..turned it off and 
all quiet...getting ready for when the (balloon goes up )and govt. gives us 
permission to go on 500khz  73s george zl3pn
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DJ8WX


> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
>
> G3XDV
> WD2XGJ
> The noise level is to 15 dB higher than the normal ! and I am demoralized 
> more and more ........
>
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> grabber at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> -- 
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>
>
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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj



















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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!

WD2XGJ will be off tonight.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> Last night i copy  :
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> WD2XGJ ( vy good copy )
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> Nil of Europ/Asia
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> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
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> grabber at :
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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> -- 
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LF,

G4WGT RTTY test transmission running on 503.600 KHz.

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Laurence-yes i will discuss possible test with u .summer time we have fortni=
tely transmission on lf..link up on 80metrs...i dont have slooow morse but s=
everal kiwis do...the big long distances were done from quartz hill near wel=
linton..a disused com site which hams have use of meantime..talk of wind pow=
er going up there so dont no how long we have that perk site..a ham friend o=
f mine 12miles south has slooow mores on lf..i will discus it to with him...=
winter time in south would be best as  'd'layer absorbsion is lower..but it=20=
is strange how the ionesphere kicks in at times  bye for now   ill get back=20=
to you george73s  ps waiting for south americans to come on lf..do pick up t=
heir nav beacons    73s
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
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  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:10 AM
  Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


  George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow (slooow) CW/QRSS o=
n an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is presently 10Z sundow=
n Singapore-17Z sunrise ZL appx. Range around 5200 statute miles to Wellingt=
on.
  =20
  If there is any other ZL or VK tx activity Im sure we would love to hear f=
rom anyone....
  =20
  Laurence 9V1 LF
  Singapore
  http://kl1x.xom




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    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:11:46 +1300
    Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


    Laurence nice to hear from you..summer time down here and lf goes into a=
 quiet period,,cw frequecy for test nites at 09000 utc thursday is 181.4khz.=
..ssb is on 182.7 lsb  usally sunday mornings where we bounce strong groundw=
aves thru mountain ranges with ease...long range argo sigs on 136 khz aprox=20=
during equinox times  sigs get into canada and russia areas..we have found o=
n longer distance propagation peaks when one side of contact is in dawn or d=
usk...strange things happen on ssb when ioensphere is working down at 182.7=20=
you can get extreme selective fading..u can switch then to double sideband n=
o carrier and the chap picks out which side is the strongest..sounds weird b=
ut that what happens on lf..if ioensphere kicks in...73s george zl3pn
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Laurence KL1X=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:37 PM
      Subject: RE: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


      George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq=
 mode/times etc
      =20
      WIth thanks
      =20
      Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia




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        From: gboorerzl3pn@xtra.co.nz
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:37:10 +1300
        Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium


        st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new=
-zealand..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but=
 NO 500KHZ.. 73S GEORGE
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence-yes i will discuss possible test with u .su=
mmer=20
time we have fortnitely transmission on lf..link up on 80metrs...i dont have=
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slooow morse but several kiwis do...the big long distances were done from qu=
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k of=20
wind power going up there so dont no how long we have that perk site..a ham=20
friend of mine 12miles south has slooow mores on lf..i will discus it to wit=
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  Belgium</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>George - if you want of would like to try a run of slow=20
  (slooow) CW/QRSS on an overnight 9V to ZL path let me know. The window is=20
  presently 10Z sundown Singapore-17Z&nbsp;sunrise&nbsp;ZL appx. Range aroun=
d=20
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  anyone....<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>Singapore<BR><A     href=3D"htt=
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
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Hi JP,

The TX was on all last night (unkeyed carrier)
73
Joe

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 184,006 kHz :
> Last night , nil for VO1NA
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Mode change  2210 HRS

AMTOR FEC  - 85 HZ SHIFT

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I have put some screen grabs and a wav file of the HAARP EME signals on
G4JNT's website... see the link below.

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I tried posting the screengrabs here, but they were probably too large -
what is the size limit?

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David,   I suggest that you write into Ofcom after they have made their
announcement and establish the position on adding modes.  My guess that they
will be relaxed.  From a spectrum management perspective I would not want to
see too much of the spectrum taken up by modes that occupy too much
bandwidth, especially if they are not spectrally efficient.   As Ofcom will
probably refer any request for changes of mode to me I suggest that in
making the request that one is fairly  general on type, e.g. data modes but
specific on occupied bandwidth, e.g. 200Hz or 500Hz, that way one won't get
pinned down too much and be able to experiment a bit, which is what Ofcom
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73 John, G3WKL



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J.B. ,

I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and 
the offset angle is 78 degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
long  on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly ?

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
>I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on
>an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
>3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3
>feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
>The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is
>a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a
>cedar tree at ground level.
>
>The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my
>QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
>off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander
>and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire
>is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M
>inverted V.
>
>On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions
>with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip
>or untuned delta loop.  The same holds true for listening
>around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing.
>The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the
>noise on the longwire.
>
>Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising
>result, if that's the only option you've got!
>
>73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>Solar and wind powered
>Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>EN93dr
>
>http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle


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Hi Graham, LF,

Downloaded the Multipsk 4.6, thanks for the lead on that.

Copying your ALE400 100%.

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

CQ DE G0NBD [FAE CQ]

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Date Test , ALE400 , CENT 503.00 MULTIPSK VERSION = 4.6 !!


> MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!
>
>
>
> Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
> system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful
>
>
>
> Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00
>
>
>
> Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00
>
> Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,
>
>
>
> Tx setup   502.000 , usb
>
> Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz
>
>
>
> Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD
>
>
>
> Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds
>
>
>
> Reports  welome , did it print ?
>
>
>
> Tnx - G ..
>
>
>
> 




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A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of
the world.
Andy  G4JNT



On 18/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Slightly OT,
>   received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif
> engineer
> for the HAARP project:
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)"
>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM
> Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
>
>
> >
> > Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment
> >
> > The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,
> > and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted
> > a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
> > A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar
> > echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.
> >
> > HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
> > for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short
> > wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by
> > listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The
> > following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
> > times are in Universal Time (UTC):
> >
> > HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule
> >
> > Date
> >>From      To
> > Transmitted Frequency
> >
> > (UTC)
> > UTC
> > Hr:Min)
> > (MHz)
> >
> > 19 January 2008
> > 05:00
> > 06:00          6.7925
> >
> > 06:00
> > 07:00          7.4075
> >
> > 20 January 2008
> > 06:30
> > 07:30          6.7925
> >
> > 07:30
> > 08:30          7.4075
> >
> >
> > Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible
> > to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver
> > and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
> > meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other
> > antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the
> > transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
> > figure.
> >
> > (not avaialable)
> >
> > The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the
> > five
> > second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
> > lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,
> > repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.
> > During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
> > but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.
> > Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be
> > carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
> > mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to
> > operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.
> > However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
> > it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.
> >
> > Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible
> > to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,
> > the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two
> > seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between
> > 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.
> > The lunar echoes will occur during the three second "quiet" period
> > after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until
> > 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on
> > a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
> > neither.
> >
> > We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs
> > who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the
> > transmitted
> > skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
> > your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment
> > and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:
> >
> > mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
> >
> > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html
> >
> > [end]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > DXCluster - telnet to n4ser.dyndns.org
> >
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<div>A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this part of the world.</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Slightly OT,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;received the e-mail below from my friend Steve Floyd W4YHD cheif engineer<br>for the HAARP project:
<br>73 Warren K2ORS<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Floyd, Steve (US SSA)&quot;<br><br>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:37 PM<br>Subject: Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<br><br>
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Information About the HAARP - LWA Moon Bounce Experiment<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) in Alaska,<br>&gt; and the Long Wavelength Array (LWA) in New Mexico, conducted<br>&gt; a bistatic low frequency lunar radar experiment in October 2007.
<br>&gt; A brief description of the experiment and an example of the lunar<br>&gt; echo radio waves received may be found in this press release.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; HAARP and LWA are planning an additional lunar echo experiment
<br>&gt; for 19 and 20 January 2008. Interested radio amateurs and short<br>&gt; wave listeners are invited to participate in this experiment by<br>&gt; listening for the lunar echoes and submitting reports. The<br>&gt; following table shows the planned schedule, where dates and
<br>&gt; times are in Universal Time (UTC):<br>&gt;<br>&gt; HAARP-LWA Experiment Schedule<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Date<br>&gt;&gt;From&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To<br>&gt; Transmitted Frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; (UTC)<br>&gt; UTC<br>&gt; Hr:Min)<br>&gt; (MHz)
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 19 January 2008<br>&gt; 05:00<br>&gt; 06:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 06:00<br>&gt; 07:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 20 January 2008<br>&gt; 06:30<br>&gt; 07:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6.7925<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 07:30
<br>&gt; 08:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7.4075<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Based on the previous experiment, we believe it should be possible<br>&gt; to hear the lunar echoes with a standard communications receiver<br>&gt; and an antenna as simple as a 40 meter dipole. If you have a 40
<br>&gt; meter beam antenna, point it in the direction of the moon. Other<br>&gt; antennas may also yield acceptable results. The format for the<br>&gt; transmissions will follow a five second cycle as shown in the following
<br>&gt; figure.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; (not avaialable)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The HAARP transmitter will transmit for the first two seconds of the<br>&gt; five<br>&gt; second cycle. The next three seconds will be quiet to listen for the
<br>&gt; lunar echo. Then HAARP will transmit again for two seconds,<br>&gt; repeating the cycle for the first hour using the first HF frequency.<br>&gt; During the second hour, this periodic five second cycle will be repeated
<br>&gt; but using a different HF frequency as shown in the table above.<br>&gt; Transmissions from HAARP during each two-second period, will be<br>&gt; carrier only (no modulation). Therefore, listeners should use the CW
<br>&gt; mode on their receiver to hear HAARP and the lunar echo. We hope to<br>&gt; operate this experiment using the frequencies given in the table above.<br>&gt; However, depending on frequency occupancy at the time of operation,
<br>&gt; it may be necessary to adjust the frequency slightly.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Depending on ionospheric conditions, it may or may not be possible<br>&gt; to hear the HAARP transmission via skywave. If conditons allow,<br>
&gt; the HAARP transmission will always be heard during the first two<br>&gt; seconds after the five second cycle starts, for example, between<br>&gt; 05:00:00 and 05:00:02 and again between 05:00:05 and 05:00:07.<br>&gt; The lunar echoes will occur during the three second &quot;quiet&quot; period
<br>&gt; after HAARP transmits, for example during the interval 05:00:02 until<br>&gt; 05:00:05 and again between 05:00:07 until 05:00:10. Depending on<br>&gt; a number of factors, you may hear HAARP, the lunar echo, both or
<br>&gt; neither.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We are interested in receiving signal reports from radio amateurs<br>&gt; who may be able to detect, or not detect, the lunar echo or the<br>&gt; transmitted<br>&gt; skywave pulse from HAARP. It will be helpful if your report includes
<br>&gt; your call sign and the type and location of your receiving equipment<br>&gt; and antennas. Reports may be sent to the following address:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu">mbreport@haarp.alaska.edu
</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html">http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/mbann.html</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; [end]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________
<br>&gt; FCG mailing list<br>&gt; Send mail - <a href="mailto:FCG@kkn.net">FCG@kkn.net</a><br>&gt; Change/edit subscription info - <a href="http://www.kkn.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg">http://www.kkn.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg</a>
<br>&gt; FCG Web site - <a href="http://www.floridacontestgroup.org">www.floridacontestgroup.org</a><br>&gt; Member Map - <a href="http://www.frappr.com/floridacontestgroup">http://www.frappr.com/floridacontestgroup</a><br>
&gt; DXCluster - telnet to <a href="http://n4ser.dyndns.org">n4ser.dyndns.org</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; __________ NOD32 2806 (20080118) Information __________<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.eset.com/">http://www.eset.com/</a>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT
<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> 

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John,
I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber
and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?
I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect. Of
course it might be due to some AGC effect in the Spec-
Lab program you are using.
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John,<br>I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber<br>and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising<br>the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show <br>up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030<br>
Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?<br>I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with<br>AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had<br>hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect. Of<br>
course it might be due to some AGC effect in the Spec-<br>Lab program you are using. <br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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OK, Luc, it is a nice snapshot. Thanks!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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Hi LF,

G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.

QRSS03 followed by CW ID.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi John, Lowfers,

I tried to copy your Wolf20 transmissions between 6 and 8 but
there was only these few lines that hinted at what might have
been your signal:

t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:131.0 jm:702 q: -8.5 -8.1 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
t: 816 f:-0.039 pm:142.1 jm:702 q: -8.8 -8.0 840NY008HVRVN3B ?
t: 864 f:-0.039 pm:156.4 jm:702 q: -8.9 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t: 912 f:-0.039 pm:163.1 jm:702 q: -8.9 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t: 960 f:-0.039 pm:176.7 jm:702 q: -8.6 -5.7 K XBS31JJ7D/WE2 -
t:1008 f:-0.039 pm:179.6 jm:702 q: -8.1 -9.3 XQOEP K30.1DUG  ?
t:1056 f:-0.039 pm:182.7 jm:702 q: -8.1 -9.2 XQOEP K30.1DUG  ?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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That was me testing in QRSS30.

Thanks for the picture.

Mike, G3XDV
===========



On 27 Jan 2008 at 12:13, Andrey RN3AGC wrote:

> Hello all.
> Capture last night  22.30z.
> Whose this beacon?
> Thank you.
> 73!





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John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> Hello Peter, LF,
>
> I'm hearing G3LDO calling CQ on 501.8 at 19:52z
>
> Can't seem to raise a response though. Perhaps my shorter antenna is a
> dB too short?
>   
Hi John,
I heard a signal but it was too weak to read. I will try again later

Regards

Peter, G3LDO



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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Fine John,



Yes, every little helps  !



That true, you can communicate over quite a range using 'fec' the navtext on 
518 prints well , but as far as I know the published service range is 50 
miles for a navtext station , that would fall in with 'our' observations of 
reliable, fade free,  communication range.



The problem sets in outside that range , I have seen good print from my psk 
signals outside the uk and good results from the Olivia system using 250/16 
, showing the transmission medium is 'stable' ie not 'phase disorientating' 
but notably displaying deep selective fading at carrier shifts over 100 hz , 
leading to recommending shifts of  85 hz and lower. The redundancy in the 
250/16 filling the gap's but still a low date rate, with no indication of 
actual % reception.



Unless you are experiencing qsb  depth and cycle period 'time' considerably 
less than 'we' have experienced, your still up against the final test , 
during qsb 'outage times' no signal = no copy,



The time intervals  have reduced attempted 'data qso's' to  near farce, with 
resolution periods of only  some 10/20 seconds in a 90 second period. An 
increase in power might slightly increase the 'print window' duration ,  but 
is still not proof against the deep fade's



Oddly , I would suspect that 'hf packett' would actually work quite well , 
where it not for the high bandwidth, conversely the short data burst would 
actually ensure the bulk of the traffic was transferred in 'one qsb window' 
, notably the pk232 tnc  will allow  the baudrate for 'hf packet'  to  be 
reduced to  50 , 50 is a bit slow , but 75 or 110 may allow the introduction 
of the 'missing' arq function , notably it uses a simple two tone fsk 
transmission mode as dose rtty and fec and as such my be amplified by 
non-linea means.



G ..









----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Keyboard modes for 600 meters


> Graham,
>
>> Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no 
>> idea if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, 
>> that's unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works ,
>
> Perhaps with the higher ERP's over here we are getting better results, as 
> excellent winter-time copy with FEC has been fairly easy over long 
> distances.
>
> If suitable ARQ software materializes, we'll be happy to put it through 
> its paces. My T/R setup would certainly need some redesigning, first! 
> Clunk!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>
>
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> 




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On 4 Jan 2008 at 12:25, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:

> If we have a Javascript expert here: Any idea how a Javascript
> (embedded in an HTML document) can detect if all embedded graphics
> have been updated ? In that case, the "refresh" interval could be
> restarted after the previous refresh is finished.
>=20

Well just got round to looking at this grabber after reading all the=20
mails. Exactly the same here....

Firstly, note we are indeed talking about Javascript here, earlier=20
emails talked about Java. How many times do we have to tell people=20
that Javascript (common browser scripting language, sometimes called=20
EcmaScript) and Java (compiled programming language from Sun) are=20
completely different things and must never be confused. Mark's site=20
certainly contains no Java applets.....

The basic problem is that each grabber image is 1.2Mb in size (not=20
sure if that is typical of grabbers?). If Mark is using a normal ADSL=20
connection the upload speed of that seriously affects the issue.=20
Plain ADSL upload will be around 20kbytes/sec, ADSLMax around=20
40kbytes/second. For that reason it takes ages to upload a single=20
image - it takes around 30 seconds here on my 2Mb ADSL which is=20
correct for a 40kbyte/sec upload - or much longer if there are=20
several people connected. Bear in mind if you are on a monthly=20
restricted usage limit all of us trying your grabber will soon use up=20
your allowance, especially if people leave it on all the time!!

So I am not sure if changing the javascript refresh will help, you=20
really need to either reduce the size of the images by a big margin=20
or similarly increase the refresh time. Or maybe do not set a refresh=20
time but get users to do a refresh. Not sure how John GM4SLV does it,=20
maybe you should find out.

73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)

http://www.davesergeant.com


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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Last night , nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/

73 J-P f1afj




















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Joe,

jcraig@mun.ca schrieb:
> The transmiter is still operating normally and
> will reamin in operation.
> 73
> Joe VO1NA

I monitored 189,9498 kHz the past 2 nights for the first time. I've got 
some "N"s both nights. The dot length was about 450 seconds!?

73
Hartmut







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Hello David and all,

I just did a check with Argo on 600m.
The MRF beacon on 503.8xx is clearly visible here, see attached.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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Hello,
Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
See email i received from info@alexander.n.se

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Marco
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Hi!

We are planing to have an education on the 23 januari. And may be on air
sometimes between 15.00 to 18.00 local time. Good luck.

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Alexander

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George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mode/=
times etc
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WIth thanks
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Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia


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an 2008 20:37:10 +1300Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz in Belgium



st illwaiting for permission to use 500khz plus or minus here in new-zealand=
..i am still active on 181khz  [130 to 190 khz] in new-zealand...but NO 500K=
HZ.. 73S GEORGE

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George - can we have details on the LF ops you are doing in ZL ie freq mode/=
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WIth thanks<BR>
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Laurence 9M/G4DMA Mersing W. Malaysia<BR><BR><BR>
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Hi John
Pleased to hear from you again. I just wanted to let you know my 500
experiments would have ground to a halt had it not been for the
assistance you have given me in providing your Grabber. I can check
improvements I make to my station by checking my transmissions a few
minutes later on your grabber. My signals are easily identified as you
say by the display of frequency time and series of 5 sec key downs. It
is not important for me to read the CW ID I also send at normal speeds!

It does amaze me that with a distance of about 350 miles between us, I
am able to be clearly seen on your Grabber at most times of the day
although I never get answers to my CQ calls. So please John, get out
there and brave the horrible weather as soon as you can and get your
mast sorted out! Your contribution to my experiments is essential for
me to continue and is greatly appreciated.

Best regards

Mike, G3GMS
IO95GB




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 05 January 2008 10:45
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 grabbers
> 
> 
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:10:55 -0000
> "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW,
> which
> 
> > is the predominant mode on 500 khz.
> 
> My grabber isn't meant to be used to read CW, that's what your ears
> and
> brain are for!
> 
> The grabber is meant as a remote signal reporting tool. Admittedly it
> allows reading of QRSS3 CW visually, but that's more by accident than
> design. 
> 
> To use it to check your own signal all you need to do is key down, or
> send CW etc.... on a known frequency at a known time, (perhaps a
> series
> of long dashes?) and then check the grabber via the web. 
> 
> I admit that it makes identifying unknown "real" CW difficult, but
> you
> can't have everything! Most signals (especially CW beacons) are
> identifiable once you know the usual QRG and have heard the signal
> yourself to know what it sounds like - eg Finbar's callsign and long
> dash are easily ID'd visually once you know what they sound like.
> 
> 
> Imagine the speed it would have to scroll to show real CW and the
> number
> of web updates needed to keep it reasonably up to date for the remote
> viewer! 
> 
> At present mine fills a screen in about 4 minutes with a 300ms scroll
> speed, and uploads each screenful every 5 minutes.
> 
> This allows you (watching via the web) to see a reasonably continuous
> picture of activity with reasonable refresh rate. 
> 
> To scroll fast enough to read CW by eye would require much faster
> scrolling speed and to ensure nothing is missed by the viewer
> watching
> online the picture would need uploading to the web that much more
> often.
> 
> 
> I figured my setup balanced utility with bandwidth. 
> 
> I also archive each and every picture locally so it's possible to
> provide historical data for any day/time. If the screen was scrolling
> fast enough to read CW by eye I couldn't do this - too much data to
> store! Guess how much data I have stored already - 5 minute updates
> running continuously 24/7 since July......!!
> 
> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the 
> > others.
> 
> Mine does. There's a box at the bottom of the picture showing
> date/time
> etc of the capture and vertical marks for each minute (with the time
> marked at the foot of each minute). The time is accurate too - the PC
> is
> locked to NTP time.
> 
> 
> I hope my grabber is of use to people. One of the stated aims in my
> NoV
> application was to provide a remote station to be of assistance to
> other
> NoV holders - and while I have been unable to get on the air to have
> QSOs recently at least I've been able to make a contribution to the
> experiment! 
> 
> I figure I can at least make my station useful for something when I
> can't operate it myself.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 



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Warren's  comments about "setup filter" are not correct    What he is
actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes
place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip. (In fact, he actually
alludes to this right at the end).  It is possible to achieve overload in
the decimation process even though the arw A/D data is still within its
linear range.   However, this 'second stage' overload is not real, and is
caused by an overflow in the maths.  It can be prevented by adjustment of
the AD6620 gain without any resulting reduction in sensitivity.

I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in
place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent
with his measured figure.
The dynamic range of approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level
and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the
SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input which are switched in
automatically depending on the frequency selected.   He makes several
observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be
valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements
and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.

I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a
greater selection of front end filtering available.  This is clearly better,
but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs twice as much as an SDR-IQ,
you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth,
400kHz rather than 190kHz.

I've used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the
RA1792 that was once used regularly on LF.  There was never any sign of
overloading on the 'IQ, using both an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip
or the tuned 137kHz Tee.  Even with the input gain set at +10dB.   For
a medium cost SDR, its difficult to beat

 However, for* purely LF* use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn't
already got an SDR-IQ, I'd probably look at a customised Softrock type.
With a decent high order Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off
medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or
11th order LPF isn't difficult at this frequency) followed by a decent
bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.  Depending on where
you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you'll
get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.   The high Q antenns
used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low
frequency signals.   In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably
rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do
admirably.

Andy  G4JNT



On 24/01/2008, K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  Dallas Lankford has just  done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the
> strong signal performance to be wanting:
>
> http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers
>
>
> Hi Laurence
> Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,
>  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much
> cheaper).
>
> You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also
> down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability
> to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had
> the SDR RF section feeding your computer.
>
> This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try
> out.
>
> Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if
> you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that
> does just that... at a cost though!!
>
> One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic
> display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW
> ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it
> other decoder features are to follow.
>
> So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached
> and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable
> connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
>
> The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ
> connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth
> fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
>
> One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for
> later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the
> original recording.
>
> The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay
> you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all
> the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF
> section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
>
> Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA-->for
> up to date information.
>
> I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments
> are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
>
> I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every
> sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
>
> Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the
> free software.
>
> 73 petefmt
>
>
>
>
> *lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>* wrote:
>
> Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
> But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
> At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
> a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec.
> looks
> good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
> I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is
> neccessesary
> to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or
> does it
> do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
> Any help gratefully received.
> 73 Laurie
>
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<div>Warren&#39;s &nbsp;comments about &quot;setup filter&quot; are not correct&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What he is actually talking about is the down sampling / decimation process which takes place in the AD6620 Digital Downconverter chip.&nbsp;(In fact, he actually alludes to this&nbsp;right at the end).&nbsp;&nbsp;It is possible to achieve overload in the decimation process even though the&nbsp;arw A/D data&nbsp;is still within its linear range.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, this &#39;second stage&#39; overload is not real, and&nbsp;is caused by&nbsp;an overflow in the maths.&nbsp;&nbsp;It can be prevented by adjustment of the AD6620 gain without any resulting&nbsp;reduction in sensitivity.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have measured the overload performance of my SDR-IQ and with no preamp in place full scale A/D overload occurs at about -23dBm which is consistent with his measured figure.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>The dynamic range of&nbsp;approximately 80dB between maximum A/D overload level and quantisation noise / A/D spec is just about adequate given that the SDR-IQ uses a few block filters on its input&nbsp;which are switched in automatically depending on the frequency selected.&nbsp;&nbsp; He makes several observations about strong local signals and lightning strikes which may be valid for his special circumstances, but in general I think his measurements and his thoughts are rather negative about this receiver.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I believe the Perseus has a similar front end topology, but has a greater&nbsp;selection of front end filtering available.&nbsp; This is clearly better, but you get what you pay for - the Perseus costs&nbsp;twice as much as an SDR-IQ, you get better input filtering and get a larger instantaneous bandwidth, 400kHz rather than 190kHz.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;ve used my SDR-IQ to listen on 137 and 500kHz, and much prefer it to the RA1792&nbsp;that was once used&nbsp;regularly on LF.&nbsp; There was never any sign of overloading on the &#39;IQ, using both&nbsp;an untuned passive 10 metre vertical whip or the tuned 137kHz Tee.&nbsp; Even with the input gain set at +10dB.&nbsp;&nbsp; For a&nbsp;medium cost&nbsp;SDR, its difficult to beat
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>However, for<strong> <u>purely LF</u></strong> use, if I wanted a dedicated receiver and hadn&#39;t already got an SDR-IQ, I&#39;d probably look at a customised&nbsp;Softrock type.&nbsp; With a decent high order&nbsp;Low Pass filter at 510kHz to severely cut off medium wave signals (difficult, as the band starts at 540kHz, but a 9th or 11th order LPF isn&#39;t difficult at this frequency)&nbsp;followed by a decent bus-switch based mixer into a high quality soundcard.&nbsp; Depending on where you want to cover, one or two switched crystals can form the LO and you&#39;ll get more than full band coverage of 500kHz or 137kHz.&nbsp;&nbsp; The high Q antenns used by most stations will go some way to killing off the very strong low frequency signals.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact as a quick test, a Softrock, with suitably rewound coils, an external filter and a new LO crystal would probably do admirably.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 24/01/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">K2ORS</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:k2ors@comcast.net">k2ors@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dallas Lankford has just &nbsp;done an analysis on the SDR-IQ and found the strong signal performance to be wanting:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.kongsfjord.no/dl/SDR/SDR-IQ%20Oveload%20Characteristics.pdf
</a></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">Peter March</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:10 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re. LF Receivers</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Hi Laurence</div>
<div>Whilst&nbsp;I don&#39;t have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso&#39;s in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK&#39;s web site for an explanation.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Follow the <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
<font color="#003399">Softrock-40 Interest Group </font></a>for up to date information.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto&#39;s comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Try <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flex-radio.com/" target="_blank">http://www.flex-radio.com/</a>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>73 petefmt&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><br><b><i>lawrence mayhead &lt;<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com" target="_blank">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<br>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<br>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
<br>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <br>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<br>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
<br>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <br>do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<br>Any help gratefully received.<br>73 Laurie<br></blockquote><br>
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Hello joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
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Hello Roman and LFers!
Thanks for OK0EMW report and captures. Do you have QSL, I sent you in
the last month (Ty polucil QSL, kotorij ja pisal tebe v dekabre? Dumaju
uze est u tebja)?
73 to Moscow!

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Hi Wolf and group.
The grabber does indeed use Spectrum Lab's http server, and I have already 
slowed the java refresh down to 5 seconds. I am watching the data 
throughput, and it seems that the system can cope with 2 simultaneous high 
refresh connections, but 3rd starts generating errors, including access 
violations on the server.
The use of the non java page reduces the bandwidth noticeably, but the 
refresh on that is only 30 sec. Still good enough to not miss anything.
I may put the java version out to 10 sec refresh later to see what happens.
Thanks for the comments
Regards
mark GM4ISM
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> Hello Mark and the group.
>
>
> Thanks for the nice feature - I guess the new grabber directly uses SL's 
> integrated HTTP server, right ?
>
> At the moment, it seems to suffer from a bandwidth limitation, because for 
> each user who visits the site, the server produces an own (up-to-date) 
> image. If the traffic remains that high, it may be necessary to use the 
> "older method" to upload the pictures to a commercially hosted website 
> periodically (like most other grabbers do). This would greatly the 
> bandwidth of your local internet connection (for the cost of -possibly- 
> useless uploads if no-one visits the grabber).
>
> Best regards, and HNY everyone,
>
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>
> Mark schrieb:
>>
>> Gents,
>> I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
>> website www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
>> The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use 
>> a ferrite rod active antenna.
>> Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz 
>> lots of birdies as normal here :<(
>>  Any comments welcomed..
>> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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Warm congrats to Peter G3LDO on his article in the Feb 2007 issue of QST!

73
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Hi Peter, Rik, LFers,

Thanks for modeling my fenceline longwire and sharing the results.
I appreciate any input/comments on the antenna, but I have to say
that I'm rather surprised that nobody questioned or commented
on my unusual "ground".  Apparently tree roots of conifers can
be pressed into service when frozen ground prevents driving
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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello!
> capture last night 01.16-05.55z.
> my loc:KO85SV
> 73

Hi Andrey,
thanks for the report and the pic. that makes 1791km "o" readable more 
than five
hours. I cant make out any fading. vy nice.
regards
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Rik Strobbe wrote:
> It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be 
> long  on 500kHz ...
> Or does MMANA not work properly ?

Hello Rik,

MMANA works very well for free space models but since it is based on MiniNEC, it 
does not properly model how the "real world" ground interacts with the near 
field. As far as I know, it uses the ground parameters for the far field 
calculations only. In other words, I don't think MMANA is able to make 
meaningful performance predictions for small antennas close to non-perfect ground.

I just put a 2000m horizontal wire into MMANA and tried different heights from 
1cm to 1m on 500kHz with real ground. Both gain and impedance figures were 
ridiculous, >600dB gain difference and sometimes the real part of the impedance 
was negative! :-D
Beverages rely on non-perfect ground to work so I saw no reason to trust the 
radiation patterns either.

73
Johan SM6LKM


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Dear LF Group,

Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
being well, I'll leave it going for a few hours at least. Any reports would
be welcome.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Really great! Cheered up the start of a really miserable winter morning.

Very many thanks

 

Mike

 

GW4HXO

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wrzo_fabrication-dune-lampe-triode_tech

 

 

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Dear LF Group,

I will be running the WOLF 20 beacon again on 503.800kHz from approx
2200utc.

Thanks for the reports from last night - it certainly seems that WOLF can
reach most parts of Europe and decode the 15 character message reasonably
quickly, even under poor conditions, with 100mW ERP. I intend to continue
with the WOLF transmissions for a while, in the hope that conditions will
improve enough for transatlantic reception, which seems feasible. But I
would also like to try some of the other weak-signal DX modes as well before
the end of February. DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much about
yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
suggestions or comments?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear LF enthusiasts!

I'll work tonight (5-6 jan) on abt 137.700

The last night (4-5 jan) I had pleasant QSOs with DL2HRE, EW6GB and UW4WPF - all good "O" in 3s mode 

I saw also QRSS signals (abt M-T) XGJ and XKO in 60s mode from 2330z till 1.30z

73! Ed RU6LA


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Jim,

JT2, like WOLF, is heavily error-corrected, which seems to be a good 
thing for weak signal performance at this frequency. JASON is reasonably 
robust, but with no forward error correction, would be in a much lower 
category. Take a look at:
http://www.w1tag.com/600M_Modes.htm
for some thoughts on what Jay and I have been playing with over here. 
The bandwidths of some of the modes may strain the rules of propriety -- 
  your call.

If you want to try JT2, I can furnish some hints that worked well at the 
TX and RX ends in our tests.

John Andrews, W1TAG

> DD7PC has suggested JT2, which I don't know much about
> yet, and I2PHD's "Jason" also seems like a good candidate. Any other
> suggestions or comments?


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Excellent Dmitry - that and the AQC trace makes me smile; one of the many ti=
mes that drift helps! I thought it would be very difficult here on the very=20=
noisy equator to receive anything at all but my country count on 137KHz has=20=
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=20
Over the next few weeks to make the best of the Northern Winter Ill  have th=
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=20
PA0RDT probes continue to function 100% -=20
=20
Laurence=20
Steamy Singapore.35C 90%RH
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> Hi Laurence!> > 3dx01588.jpg - "O" it's my sygnal dfcw120 shift 0.2 Hz> >=20=
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Excellent Dmitry - that and the AQC trace makes me smile; one of the many ti=
mes that drift helps! I thought it would be very difficult here on the very=20=
noisy equator to receive anything at all but my country count on 137KHz has=20=
been&nbsp;higher here than in BY4.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The actual signals are probably quite reasonable just the sig/noise to deal=20=
with. The ionosphere over Singapore at night makes for poor LF/HF listening=20=
and "most" nights with the R75 agc on fast the S Meter sits at a constant 20=
 to 30 over nine. Think of a bad day in Europe on 160m in the middle of a st=
orms summers night and quadruple it<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im trying phasing the probes at the moment to see if I can null out some of=20=
the stuff in some directions&nbsp;but have only played for an hour or so. Tr=
ouble is the the storms are basically all around me most night, or certainly=
 looking at the storm maps they appear to be.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Over the next few weeks to make the best of the Northern Winter Ill&nbsp; ha=
ve three grabbers up - 2 on 137Khz &nbsp;and 1 on 505Khz and switch receive=20=
sectors depending whether Ill be looking for the Americas or Eu/Asia.<BR>
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PA0RDT probes continue to function 100% - <BR>
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Laurence <BR>
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Hello Hall ,

What is "G B" transmission on 137775.7

20:30 > 21:00

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW=20=
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LFers .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there a limit on the size to sent a pict=
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the group ;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried two times to send the captured f=
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the signals from OK0EMW and DI2AM without succes so far .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone ?</FONT></DIV>
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gid-day  propagation can be so strange on lf....keep watch on lf when aroral=
 type things start up in new solar cycle...my first long distance contact wa=
s when solar flares rip 80mrtrs and hf to pieces...went down on 181.4 and ha=
m in far north kataia nz was 20 over nine..gave him call and got  5.9 9 cw r=
eport...expect the un expected on lf as i have in past 15years...15years ago=
 lf band here was full of power line carriers and we had to pick odd frequen=
cy like 181.4 to be clear up and down zl...but now they have ceased using th=
is system in hv grid lines...its real beut now clear from 130 to 190khz our=20=
kiwi lf band   bye george  73s zl3pn

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gid-day&nbsp; propagation can be so strange=
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first long distance contact was when solar flares rip 80mrtrs and hf to=20
pieces...went down on 181.4 and ham in far north kataia nz was 20 over=20
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Chaps

On the subject of grabbers, I've swapped the receivers over so the TS850 is
on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit and
display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the
bottom before!)

73

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Chaps<br><br>On the subject of grabbers, I&#39;ve swapped the receivers over so the TS850 is on the 500k grabber at the moment which means I can open up the IF a bit and display the whole band (at the request of Finbar whose beacon was off the bottom before!)
<br><br>73<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hello Laurie & LF,


On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lawrence mayhead wrote:

> John,
> I have been looking at your excellent 500kHz Grabber

Thanks!

> and notice that some strong signals are de-sentising
> the receiver and causing other weaker signals to show
> up less clearly. I belive you are using an AOR AR7030
> Rx and I wonder wether you have the AGC on or off ?

The RX (an AR7030) AGC is ON normally. I also notice the de-sensing 
caused by AGC action, usually during the evening, when DI2AM is fairly 
strong.

I tried running with the AGC off. Once the RF gain has been set 
correctly, works well. The downside is that it severely overdrives the 
soundcard when I'm transmitting on 500. With the AGC on the AR7030 can 
wind back its gain, and switch in extra RF attenuation, so the audio 
level to the soundcard doesn't "hit the rails".

The isolation of the antenna c/o relay in the TX is good so the 
receivers aren't muted during transmit (I've measured the level of 
leakage and it was okay, although my notes are at home so can't remember 
the actual measured levels) so I decided to leave the AR7030 AGC on and 
let it cope on its own.

At the moment the 500kHz antenna needs tuning, recent weather has 
rattled the ATU and the variometer needs a tweak, so I've not been 
active on TX for a week or 2. I suppose what I should do is turn the AGC 
off for most of the time and turn it on during operating periods.


> I have noticed this effect with some receivers, even with
> AGC OFF there is still some control of Rx gain, but had
> hoped that the 7030 would not suffer from this defect.

As far as I can tell the AR7030 is pretty well linear with the AGC off. 
I've used it before, AGC off, for 5MHz beacon monitoring, and it worked 
well. I seem to remember doing some checks with signal generator and 
attenuators in the past.


I'll turn the AGC off later and leave it running like that, so you can 
see how it performs.

The 7030 is an excellent RX for this style of operation. It's a pain at 
times when driving it manually and looking for tiny signals. It's very 
capable of hearing stuff, but the user interface, with all the various 
things you want to tweak (RF gain/filter bandwidths/Pass Band Tuning) 
etc all being on different menus. The VFO is also odd, with the smallest 
steps being fractional Hz so it's not possible to tune in exact 
multiples of 1Hz. 

As a stable peice of test equipment it's prety good, as a "tune around 
the band looking for weak signals" it can be a pain. Until I started on 
500kHZ (and also NDB hunting) I always thought it was fine, and couldn't 
understand the antipathy others had for the menu system etc. 

For a "tune and forget" long term monitoring RX it's great.


Cheers,

John




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Dear Ha-Jo and all,

I will stick to regular CW as long as the PA heating problem is not solved.
I will try to listen on 3533 but I will have to use the 500kHz antenna.
If I listen on 3533 I will announce it on 503

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> dear Rick,
>
> I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
> "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
>> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in=20=
any
>> case.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
>> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
>> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
>> > Shetland grabber.
>> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
>> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
>> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
>> > and short transmissions.
>> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ON7YD - OR7T
>> >
>> > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Hi Ko,
what a surprise seeing this big bottle.
hopefully you did find the reverse gear.
best wishes
Uwe/dj8wx





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I have also heard SAQ, around 15.20UTC, when I remember correctly, with
normal quality. I took the chance to compare two loops of different
sizes (but of course there were other stations nearby which also offered
themselves for such comparisons).

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"cricri" <cricri.f1vl@wanadoo.fr> schrieb:
> Hello
> In France we where at least two listeners , with good copy !
> 
> 73
> Xtian / F1VL
> 
> 
> Costas Krallis SV1XV a écrit :
> > At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
> >> See email i received from info@alexander.n.se
> >>     
> >
> > Any reception reports?
> >
> > 73 Costas SV1XV
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Echos here on my 80 metre inverted vee.
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  HI LF,

  Do someone see something in Europe ??

  ON4AOL, Luc


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MULTIPSK VERSION =   4.6  !!!



Data test , using 'arq' - ALE400-  mode from multipsk,  multi tone  linear 
system , looks like prog will select rx mode if decode is successful



Multipsk  ALE  400  test   cent 503.00



Running unprto 'CQ'  centre freq   503.00

Mode in  Multipsk  version  4.6 ,



Tx setup   502.000 , usb

Prog ,  cent tone  (purple line)  1000 Hz



Tx -text , CQ DE G0NBD



Tx , 4 second pulse , prf ~ 11 seconds



Reports  welome , did it print ?



Tnx - G ..




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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( vy good signal  )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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See below.
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From: "Floyd, Steve (US SSA)" <steve.floyd@baesystems.com>

Subject: FW: HAARP-LWA Moon Bounce on YouTube
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:57:47 +0000
> Greetings All,
> 
>   For the moon bounce experiment we were running all 180 transmitters at 
> full power, carrier ON for 2 seconds, then OFF for 3 seconds, precisely timed 
> starting at the top of the hour, repeating the 5 second cycle every 5 seconds 
> for 1 hour at  6.7925 MHz, and then 1 hour at 7.4075 MHz.  We aimed the antenna 
> beam accurately at the moon, updating our aim position every 3 minutes to 
> continuously track the moon.
>   Our ERP at 6.7925 MHz and 7.4075 MHz would be approximately +94 dBW.
>   Expected total propagation delay time is 2.7 seconds.
>    
>   Please see the youtube posted video link below.  This is an excellent 
> reception report with very strong echo signals received in the middle of the 
> video post.  A very nice video indeed from this individual in Washington state.
>    
>   All 180 transmitters are operating extremely well and we are refining 
> our maintenance routines to further enhance the excellent reliability we are now 
> experiencing.
>    
>   Let me know what you think of the link below.
>    
>   Regards,
>   Steve
>   
> 
>           
>           Check this site: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5E2ntIxAsc
> 
>           About 15 minute video; in the latter half K7AGE begins 
> to show the total power vs time trace.  He also shows the transition from 6.7925 
> MHz to 7.4075 MHz.  A good video production.
> 
> 



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Hi Laurence,
I received UA4WPF - LO66pu on that QRG some days (evenings) ago.
Regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



Zitat von Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>:

>
> thanks Ted - unlikely you  as it was still in the late afternoon 
> before your sunset but hey its LF so who knows. Signal didnt last 
> that long and still UNID; likely to be more European/Asian. 
> Conditions still not that good here equatorially looking on LF but it 
> was a lot quieter QRN wise and saw more NDBs' around 510KHz than 
> normal.
>
> Cheers
> Laurence 9M/KL1X mobile E2 northbound towards Kuala Lumpur...avoiding 
> the monkeys on the road.
>
>
> From: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: 
> Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:20:07 -0600Subject: LF: RE: 137.7772
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am transmitting on that freq.  my ID is XYW
>
> Ted, WD2XYW, KC3OL
> www.kc3ol.com
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
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> KL1XSent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:10 PMTo: 
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>
> Looks like Im getting some weak qrss on 137.7772 at 2209Z 24th - 
> about 45 mins till sun up. Laurence 9V1 LF
>
>
>
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Hi Mark.
 
No luck here with the grabber and AOL.
 
text but no image at all just small box with red cross.  Usually no  problem 
here with Java etc.
 
Thanks
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 01/01/2008 17:20:38 GMT Standard Time,  
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Hi  Mark,

Just tried the grabber a few times & each time only get a  small (top) part 
of the grab, then it jumps back to top again to start  scan again.

I see about 1 to 2 inches of top part of the grab at about  5 to 10 second 
periods.

Hope this report helps your  problems.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp







   

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Hello Mark and the group.


Thanks for the nice feature - I guess the new grabber directly uses SL's 
integrated HTTP server, right ?

At the moment, it seems to suffer from a bandwidth limitation, because 
for each user who visits the site, the server produces an own 
(up-to-date) image. If the traffic remains that high, it may be 
necessary to use the "older method" to upload the pictures to a 
commercially hosted website periodically (like most other grabbers do). 
This would greatly the bandwidth of your local internet connection (for 
the cost of -possibly- useless uploads if no-one visits the grabber).

Best regards, and HNY everyone,

  Wolf DL4YHF .

Mark schrieb:
>
> Gents,
> I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of 
> my website www.dc2light.co.uk <http://www.dc2light.co.uk>
> The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will 
> use a ferrite rod active antenna.
> Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 
> KHz lots of birdies as normal here :<(
>  
> Any comments welcomed..
> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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Gents, Initial experiments with restricted bandwidth showed this effect, and=
 when I changed the refresh  rate to 5 sec on the java version, it improved.=
 so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh to 10 seconds, and see what happ=
ens. (users already connected may have to refresh the page)
The non java version may perform better for those with slower connection spe=
eds (there is a link to it under the picture on the main page.)
I am logging the requests and errors generated, none has actually stopped th=
e system this end
Thanks to all, for looking in, and especially to Wolfgang for the excellent=20=
tool that is spectrum laboratory.=20
regards
Mark GM4ISM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Luc van Achte=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:45 PM
  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Hi ,

  The same problem as told by Garry G4WGT . A few lines and then the page re=
starts=20
  First mail from me . Just made the mini whip from PA0RDT and try to catch=20=
something on 500 kHz

  HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc  J021AF



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents, Initial experiments with restricted=20
bandwidth showed this effect, and when I changed the refresh&nbsp; rate to 5=
 sec=20
on the java version, it improved. so I have just (17:58) changed the refresh=
 to=20
10 seconds, and see what happens. (users already connected may have to refre=
sh=20
the page)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The non java version may perform better for=
 those=20
with slower connection speeds (there is a link to it under the picture on th=
e=20
main page.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am logging the requests and errors genera=
ted,=20
none has actually stopped the system this end</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all, for looking in, and especial=
ly to=20
Wolfgang </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the excellent tool that is s=
pectrum=20
laboratory. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dluc.van.achte@pandora.be href=3D"mailto:luc.van.achte@pandora.b=
e">Luc=20
  van Achte</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:4=
5=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi ,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The same problem as told by Garry&nbsp;G4=
WGT . A=20
  few lines and then&nbsp;the page&nbsp;restarts </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First mail from me . Just made the mini w=
hip from=20
  PA0RDT and try to catch something on 500 kHz</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HNYde 0N4AOL ,Luc&nbsp; J021AF</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=20
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A lot of activity on 137kHz the past nights, Updated my website with
screenshots of DK4U, EW6GB, F6BIR, G3XIZ, PA3CPM, RA9CUA, UA4WPF and
WD2XGJ.

Screenhots can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Direct signal audible and visable on SpecLab=20


ON4AOL ,Luc

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Hello all!
HNY
> What is transmission !
> 
> 20:00 > 20:30 on ~137.776/137.777
> 
EW6GB is calling UA4WPF in QRSS10
73 de Andrej EW6GB


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Hello John!
I am sorry to listen, that you have problems as you write below. I
monitored  your grabber every day, its informations ware very useful for
me, so grabber is missing now.

I am sure, you will repair the destroy aerial and grabber will be
available soon.

73 and GL in 2008!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John
Pumford-Green GM4SLV
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:41 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV Grabber


Hello LF group,

Althought I've been very inactive over the last month or so (my last
QSO was on 28th Nov on 500) I've kept the grabber running. I've been
busy with other things and radio has taken a back seat for a while.

Unfortunately the grabber is out of action at the moment due to antenna
damage.

Shetland has been in the teeth of a severe storm for the last 24 hours
(not unusual) with winds of continuous force 8 and periods up to 9 and
10. My fibreglass pole usually handles these storms quite gracefully,
even if it looks alarming as it flexes in the wind, since it's guyed at
4 levels from 2m up to 11m.

This morning however I woke to find one of the pole sections had
snapped just above one of the joints. I've braved the elements and
lowered the whole antenna to the ground until I can obtain a
replacement pole section from Spiderbeam.

The wind is still howling at force 8 - 9 so I'm not intending
venturing out to investigate the cause of the failure until the storm
abates...


Regards and I hope to be back QRV (both with the grabber and on the
key) in the near future.

Cheers,

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hello Peter, LF,

I'm hearing G3LDO calling CQ on 501.8 at 19:52z

Can't seem to raise a response though. Perhaps my shorter antenna is a
dB too short?

Cheers,


John

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John GM4SLV
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At 11:49 17/1/2008, you wrote:

>Maybe SAQ is online on 23.Jan. between 15:00-18:00 local time!
>See email i received from info@alexander.n.se

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dear Rick,

I shall also listen on 503.1 kHz tonight. Crosband qso possible.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Any plans for X-band already this evening? Will look for your signals in any
> case.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
> 
> 
> Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I just finished my 500kHz antenna, 9m high and 26m long T-antenna.
> > With a temporary PA (abt 100W) I can get 1.3A into the antenna,
> > guestimated ERP is about 0.5 Watt. Enough to put a nice signal on the
> > Shetland grabber.
> > I will try to be QRV tonight (abt 20-22UTC) on 503,1kHz.
> > The setup is very experimental, PA is getting quite hot and TX/RX
> > switching is by swapping a cable. So be prepared for some TX-delays
> > and short transmissions.
> > I will be using my short call: OR7T
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rik
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> > ON7YD - OR7T
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Hi All,

Running WOLF 10 Beacon on  503.000 Khz ,=20

Reports if possible, aslo frequency ? possible  2 hz LF ??

Running tx locked to  off air standard ,=20

intrested if fequency has 'slow cyclic drif'  ??

tnx - Graham .=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running WOLF 10 Beacon on&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=
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Hello James and hall ,

Good copy now !

t: 96 f: 0.293 pm:0.013 jm:324 q: 10.3  9.2 WOLF 20 M0BMU   -

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

James Moritz a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks  for  the reception reports from last night. I will be runing the
> WOLF 20 beacon again tonight on 503.800kHz from about 2200utc.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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George,

ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher 
frequency) that change the density of the medium. A complete 
different mechanism than electromagnetic waves.
If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and 
eventually boil. Nothing to be stunned about.
Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage 
is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.
Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to 
microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very 
expensive to build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:
>hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has 
>got a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water 
>and after a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye 
>ultra sonics...It has stunned professors and science standards...he 
>wont let on much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got 
>a feeling the highfreqency audio electric current is heating the 
>water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn


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George,<br><br>
ultrasonic waves are &quot;shockwaves&quot; (just like sound, only at
higher frequency) that change the density of the medium. A complete
different mechanism than electromagnetic waves.<br>
If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and
eventually boil. Nothing to be stunned about.<br>
Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage is
that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.<br>
Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as &quot;save
alternative&quot; to microwave ovens, but with little success as it
turned out to be very expensive to build an oven that would withstand the
vibrations.<br><br>
73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T<br><br>
At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after a short
period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It has
stunned professors and science standards...he wont let on much...thats
the million dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the highfreqency
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In a recent message, John W Gould <jwgould@iee.org> wrote ...
>There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
>patiently!

John -
In the event that the expiry dates of the current NoV permits will be 
extended, what will be the position as regards extending the permitted 
modes?

My present NoV only permits "A1A, CW". This is what I applied for, 
thinking that that would be all that would be allowed on 501-504. As 
PSK, RTTY, etc is being used on the band and I should like to know what 
the procedure is for adding data modes to an existing NoV.  Will a 
resubmission be necessary?

73

David G4DMP
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:43:34 -0000
"mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Turn the speed up boys 

No, for the reasons explained in a previous posting to the list.

Personally speaking, my grabber isn't intended to allow remote stations
to follow CW QSOs by eye via the internet, it is there to provide a
visual snapshot of band activity and to act as a remote pair of ears
for other stations. 

The refresh and scrolling speed is chosen to allow this.


If others want faster scrolling to read CW by eye then they are of
course free to use their computers, receivers, antennas, broadband
connection and web-space as they see fit.

Mal, if  you think such a facility would benefit 500 users then I
suggest you set one up yourself. As in all things, if you want
something doing you're always better to do it yourself.

I look forward to seeing your grabber come online soon to allow the
rest of us to read 20wpm CW by eye, in real time via your station.


 




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Hi all
The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which is
the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but also
a bit slow.
Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the others.
73 de Mal/G3KEV


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Hi Laurence
  Whilst I don't have experience the Perseus SDR RX,  I do with Softrock,  same principle but simpler execution at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).
   
  You can at zero cost down load SDR software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. 
   
  This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.
   
  Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!
   
  One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.
   
  So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.
   
  The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.
   
  One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. 
   
  The subject is too vast to detail  it here but for a very small out lay you can experience it first hand. Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!
   
  Follow the Softrock-40 Interest Group for up to date information.
   
  I hope this helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.
   
  I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a Bee in his bonnet  ... hi.
   
  Try http://www.flex-radio.com/ but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.
   
  73 petefmt 
   
   
  

lawrence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com> wrote:
  Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!
But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.
At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP
a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks 
good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country  with the Perseus SDR.
I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary 
to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an  ARGO FFT display or does it 
do this itself? and if so can I get 60/120 sec.dot resolution?
Any help gratefully received.
73 Laurie


       
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<DIV>Hi Laurence</DIV>  <DIV>Whilst&nbsp;I don't have experience the&nbsp;Perseus SDR RX, &nbsp;I do with Softrock, &nbsp;same principle but simpler execution&nbsp;at radio frequency (and much much cheaper).</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>You can&nbsp;at zero cost down load SDR&nbsp;software to play with. You can also down load recorded examples of on air activity. This gives you the ability to tune all over the band listen to various qso's in SSB or CW as if you had the SDR RF section feeding your computer. </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>This technology is quite unique and very worth while the effort to try out.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Alberto is quite right about the lack of a nice dial knob to turn but if you are wedded to a nice big dial knob you can get a custom encoder that does just that... at a cost though!!</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>One out of many advantages is you can see the signals as a panoramic display or as a waterfall you vary the water fall
 speed and read the qrss CW ..... The Rocky software has built in PSK decoder and as I understand it other decoder features are to follow.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>So long as the SDR software you are using has an HP9TLK.DLL file attached and similarly the decoder software then you have a Virtual Audio Cable connectivity i.e. no need for external wire or additional sound cards.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The on board sound cards on most PCs are adequate if you are using a IQ connection from your RF stage to the PC i.e. the mic input. It is worth fitting a higher quality card see M0KGK's web site for an explanation.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>One aspect of SDR is this the ability of recording the&nbsp;whole band for later interrogation even if you had not tuned to that frequency during the original recording. </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The subject is too vast to detail&nbsp; it here but for a very small out lay you&nbsp;can experience it first
 hand.&nbsp;Also the software is advancing where all the signal prossing basically takes place so without change to the RF section your radio can be up dated at no cost as this advance takes place!</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Follow the <A href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGtkanNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIwMTEwNTIwNA--" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=#003399>Softrock-40 Interest Group </FONT></A>for up to date information.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I hope this&nbsp;helps in your search for another RX ...... Alberto's comments are very valid and the beauty is you can try it out at zero cost.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I have no commercial interest in SDR I am just a poor retired HAM in every sense of the word with a&nbsp;Bee in his&nbsp;bonnet&nbsp; ... hi.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Try <A   href="http://www.flex-radio.com/">http://www.flex-radio.com/</A>&nbsp;but ignore all the expensive toys, just the free software.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>73 petefmt&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>lawrence mayhead &lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well I managed to fix my RA1792 receiver at last!<BR>But all this investigation has whetted my appetite for something better.<BR>At the moment I am torn between the AOR7030, conventional non DSP<BR>a bit difficult to drive but could be OK with computer display, spec. looks <BR>good for LF. Or a take drive in unknown country&nbsp; with the Perseus SDR.<BR>I really am in the dark here and would like to know wether is is neccessesary <BR>to re-digitise the audio output in order to get an&nbsp; ARGO FFT display or does it <BR>do this itself? and if so can I get
 60/120 sec.dot resolution?<BR>Any help gratefully received.<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the WOLF beacon last night. At least 2 stations
were able to decode it correctly, so at least I know it is set up right! I
will run the beacon again tonight, with the same conditions - WOLF 10 mode,
503.800kHz, from around 2200utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reception reports from last night. I will be running the
beacon again tonight from 2200utc, WOLF 20 mode on 503.800kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello Nicolas,

thank you very much for your report. The frequency of DI2BO is supposed to b=
e 505.015 kHz, I am not sure how accuracte this is, perhaps somebody who can=
 accurately measure this can confirm.

The current ERP is around 50 mW with 1 Ampere antenna current into an 8 m ve=
rtical antenna.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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  Hello Geri,strong tonight,could you confirm your frequency and the ERP pow=
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  Best 73 F4DTL in JN18FP

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How very odd ,

Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at the 
bottom of the screen,

May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you have 
the horizontal gain set too high ?

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Hi all
> The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which is
> the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but 
> also
> a bit slow.
> Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the others.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 




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Quit strong now , carrier -29dB
No more HY to hear , sorry about that  HI


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BEACON QRT  0130 HRS


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> RUNNING  WOLF BEACON - MODE 10-
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Hi Wolf,

Thanks for the info, I set the refresh interval to 30 secs & it takes 28 
secs to complete the page then it starts to refresh the page almost 
immediately not giving time to study the page, so I have set it now for 60 
secs & I have 30 secs to study the image before next refresh.

My broadband is supposed to be up to 8Mb & shows connection speed 7.7Mb but 
up & down loads are much slower than that.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfgang Büscher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: GM4ISM 500KHz Grabber


> Hi Gary,
>
> You wrote:
>> Only small strip at top of screen, the slow link is ok.
>>
> Increase the value of the "Refresh Interval" from 2.0 to 30 seconds (on 
> the bottom of the screen).
> I have Mark's grabber running for about an hour now, and at that update 
> rate, there was not a single error.
>
> There is a strange signal nead 504 kHz now, drifting in frequency, which 
> must be local. It goes on and off every few minutes.
>
> 73,
>  Wolf .
>
>
> 




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Mal,

Resize your browser for SpecLab grabbers.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Yes its there if I scroll down, not as convenient ast ARGO.
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:29 PM
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>
>
>> How very odd ,
>>
>> Im looking at GM4ISM  right now and there is well defined time print at
> the
>> bottom of the screen,
>>
>> May be you have a 'VGA' monitor and cannot show all the screen, or you
> have
>> the horizontal gain set too high ?
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:10 PM
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>>
>>
>> > Hi all
>> > The majority of the grabbers are running too slow for normal CW, which
> is
>> > the predominant mode on 500 khz. The Ohio grabber is more realistic but
>> > also
>> > a bit slow.
>> > Speclab  grabbers do not give the time, which I find useful on the
> others.
>> > 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
> 




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Hello Gary and LFers!
I am ready on 503.6kHz, but good conditions for receiving your signals
will be only from 21:00 to 23:00 UT. Can you testing in this time? My
receiver will be ON.

Lubos, OK2BVG

*****************************  

-----Original Message-----
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Hi LF,

G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.

QRSS03 followed by CW ID.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi all,
I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
is there a vote against it?
Regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv




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Cracking signal here Gary, as you may have noticed.
No sign of MRF, not seen often here at this hour, and never very strong.
will try to get the main antenna working this weekend WX permitting
Regards
Mark GM4ISM
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> Hi LF,
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> G4WGT testing on 503.600 KHz.
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> QRSS03 followed by CW ID.
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Hi Luc,

I believe it is about 30 Kb total (picture & text), I always keep my 
pictures below 10 Kb & I have no problem.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi LFers .

Is there a limit on the size to sent a picture too the group ;
I've tried two times to send the captured file with the signals from OK0EMW 
and DI2AM without succes so far .
It's a JPG -file and not bigger then 39kB .
Anyone ?


73  Luc






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Mike,

it started on 15 januari 2008.
All holders of a "full licence" can use the new allocation within the 
given restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or special 
permit required.
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep 
this allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so 
you need a valid Belgian "full licence" to operate this band. 
Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Rik and group,
>
>Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will start?
>Maybe I have missed it.
>
>Best regards
>
>Mike
>
>GW4HXO.
>_________________________________________________________________________
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>
>Subject: LF: 500 kHz in Belgium
>
>Dear all,
>
>today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can
>use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,
>so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
>I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD
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>


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Mike,<br><br>
it started on 15 januari 2008.<br>
All holders of a &quot;full licence&quot; can use the new allocation
within the given restrictions (max. 5W ERP, CW only). No notice or
special permit required.<br>
Interesting to notice is that there is no end date set, so we keep this
allocation until BIPT tells us otherwise.<br>
Finally: the 600m segment not not a part of the CEPT agreements, so you
need a valid Belgian &quot;full licence&quot; to operate this band.
Operating 600m as ON/Gxxxx is not permitted.<br><br>
73, Rik ON7YD<br><br>
At 11:12 18/01/2008, you wrote:<br>
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<font face="Courier New, Courier">Hello Rik and group,<br>
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Can you please confirm the date from which your 500kHz permission will
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Maybe I have missed it.<br>
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Best regards<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we
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so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.<br>
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Warren and all,

fascinating video...

By the way, has anyone tried to extract a longterm Doppler spectrum from the lunar reflections across a number of TX-RX-periods? The 
width of the libration spread should be on the order of 0.05 to 0.1 Hz, resolvable inside a 0.2 Hz Nyquist window without aliasing. 
However I have no idea of what spreading contribution from passing through the ionosphere at a high angle should be expected. The 
experiment would require a very stable receiver, unless we could use the direct signal as phase reference - which we probably can't 
because of much wider oblique reflection Doppler.

Anyway the bottom line is that I'd be really interested in looking at a few minutes of recorded audio.

Sorry for being off topic - just couldn't resist asking.

Regards,
Markus, DF6NM


>>           Check this site:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5E2ntIxAsc
>>



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Dear Graham, LF Group,

The WOLF software is at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html .
WOLF is really aimed at extreme weak-signal DX, and has worked well on
136kHz, so might be a possibility for trans-atlantic operation on 500kHz.

I left the beacon running overnight, partly to see if the frequency
stability of IC718 + transverter was adequate, which it was. I modified the
EER transverter design to use the frequency reference from the IC718, in
order to eliminate the differential drift between two separate oscillators.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Ok John,

Well , thats the problem , the psk31 mode works very well on this band , but=
=20
needs a linea system , the little racal interstage drive amp I use is=20
running in class -A- bit ott , but im reluctant to re-bias the amp. less it=20
falls over ... ! (if i could find a second one , then no proble hihi)

Thanks on the report, I'm running the 'wolf' system again, at -12db drive=20
level lower than the psk/rtty as the amp runs a bit hot on 100 p/c ducty=20
cycle ..

I copied some of your cw b4, but i have seen a much bigger signal from you=20
in the past , its a bit like trying to  here the station mesages at=20
watford-gap with a train going past !

G ..


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From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: [500] psk31 G0NBD


G, Chris & LF,

psk31 seems to work quite nicely, better than the RTTY!


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The CW is hard going too at times!


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IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland





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Hello LFers!
Very nice signal from Mal, now.
 
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Lubos, Marco,

thanks again for the reports. Yes, Marco, I am still running 1 Ampere into t=
he 8 m vertical, so about 50 mW ERP. Yesterday evening the conditions seemed=
 to be excellent, I was able to observe DI2BO on the GM4SLV-grabber with a v=
ery strong signal together with DI2AM and OK0EMW.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO



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  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:19 AM
  Subject: RE: [500] DI2BO


  Hello,
  last night here also a good copy of DI2BO.=20
  Geri, i think you still running a little bit more power?

  vy73
  Marco
  DD7PC

  JN49ax



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  It is a nice signal, isn=B4t it!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks again for the reports. Yes, Marco, I=
 am=20
still running 1 Ampere into the 8 m vertical, so about 50 mW ERP. Yesterday=20
evening the conditions seemed to be excellent, I was able to observe DI2BO o=
n=20
the GM4SLV-grabber with a very strong signal together with DI2AM and=20
OK0EMW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARG=
IN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
olz,=20
  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de     hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:=
19=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [500] DI2BO</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>last night here also a good copy of DI2BO=
.=20
  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>Geri, i think you still running a little=20=
bit more=20
  power?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>vy73</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>Marco</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>DD7PC</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><S=
PAN     class=3D675571607-03012008>JN49ax</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
  <HR tabIndex=3D-1>
  <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lubom=EDr=20
  Bobal=EDk<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 January 2008 22:36<BR><B>To:</B> <A     href=
=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR=
><B>Subject:</B>=20
  LF: [500] DI2BO<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-S=
IZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is a nice signal, isn=B4t=20
  it!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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IZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-S=
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Hello all on LF ,

I am very anxious because since yesterday I am QRM on 137 Khz ,
the  noise floor went up of 20 dB ! the last night the grabber was
disturbed and XGJ was just visible !!! This evening that seems better,
but not returned at the normal level. I hope that it is only passage
because that is likely to put in danger my activity LF !
to see the captures in the file with :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/QRM_137kHz/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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HI Rik...

I use a 2000' and 1000' unterminated longwires that simply lay on the ground
and are used specifically for 500khz and down. I have been very impressed
with their performance on NDB's etc. Beacons ranging in the 5000-7000 km
range are heard on a nightly basis. Just wondering what your software say's
for these as far as expected performance.

Vern - VE1VDM 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
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Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire

J.B. ,

I simulated the fence wire with MMANA.
On HF (80m, 40m)  I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle.
But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the
offset angle is 78 degrees.
It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be long
on 500kHz ...
Or does MMANA not work properly ?

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote:
>Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
>I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on an existing 
>fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a
>3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer.  The antenna is 3 feet off the 
>ground, with the far end left un-terminated.
>The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is a stainless 
>steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a cedar tree at ground level.
>
>The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my QTH favours 
>Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S.
>off the back.  Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander and Shanwick in 
>the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire is several S units stronger 
>and MUCH quieter than my 80 M inverted V.
>
>On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions with better 
>signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip or untuned delta loop.  
>The same holds true for listening around the broadcast LW & MW bands or 
>NDB chasing.
>The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the noise on the 
>longwire.
>
>Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising result, if 
>that's the only option you've got!
>
>73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>Solar and wind powered
>Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>EN93dr
>
>http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle


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Hallo Finbar and LFers!
I can see your signal quite soon this evening, but in QRSS mode only. 
 
Have a nice weekend!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hi LF.

good cpy of XGJ and XKO this morning.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF.</FONT></DIV>
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BTW: together with the 500 kHz segment we got topband up to 2MHz 
(upper limit used to be 1875 kHz).

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 08:19 16/01/2008, you wrote:
>On 15/01/2008 at 18:59 G4gvw@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Shouldn't membership of the EU entitle us all to the same treatment?
> >
>But the EU is not the United States of Europe (yet!).  And I recall 
>a time when in the United States of America top band was not 
>available in many areas.
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>73
>John F5VLF/G3PAI


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On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:12:33AM -0500, Jay Rusgrove wrote:
> Argo plot here:
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Nice!

FWIW, this is all I can see in JO61ua:

http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/haarp.png

It's only the direct signal, the moon is below the horizon here
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Graham, LF,

I'm hearing your CW QSO with G3XIZ! I think this might be the first
time I've heard you on CW on 500. RST 439 with deep QSB down to nil.

Great to hear, conditions don't seem too good, Chris fades away from
579 to nil at times too.

Cheers,

John
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Hi LF!

Full report here:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/30jan08.html

1) Who is it on DFCW-10 136.691 kHz?
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/136.7_30_0008.jpg
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/136.7_30_0013.jpg

2) DI2AM was change a freq?
At the morning 30 jan:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/505_3_0001.jpg
At the morning 31 jan:
http://qrss.nm.ru/30jan2008/505.1_3_0002.jpg
--
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

UA4WPF  ( qrs 60 20:00=>21:15 )

DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )

DF6NM     ( good signal )

Nil on american continent

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

















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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.

Hi gang,

I use the old fashioned way....

Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).

The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts at
the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's webspace
www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new account at
www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm


The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
archive directory on the Linux machine.

5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....


Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.

 

> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
>

 
 ditto....

Cheers,

John




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Roelof wrote:
>
> I have been testing some real barbed wire fences of 1500 metre long, which 
> showed a very narrow beamwidth in one direction.
>
> If you have the opportunity, there are many usuable fences out there which 
> can be put to good use as a reception antenna. You might be in for a nice 
> surprise.
>

But be careful, things can go wrong! One MW BC Dxer's story:
http://www.skywaves.info/index.php?entityType=HTML&id=55 



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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:30:08 -0000
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rik, John,
> 
> Rik's signal is 539 here, with the typical 500 kHz QSB. The strange
> callsign threw me at first!
> 
> Congratulations on the first ON/OR - GM QSO. Still got to get ON/GW/
> & ON/G QSOs now! (I recorded the QSO with Spectran.)
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
> 
> 

Thanks Dave,Rik & LF

I just came back into the shack and heard the end of your own QSO with
Rik too.

It's great to stir up some new activity. Rik's announcement of
impending operation got me out into the darkness with a torch to
re-tune the ATU. If you've seen the picture of my QTH in this month's
RadCom you can appreciate just how dark it can be here at night!

Cheers,

John


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On 18 Jan 2008 at 20:53, Andy Talbot wrote:

> A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this
> part of the world. Andy  G4JNT
> 

Thanks for answering my own question Andy...

The 7407.5 frequency is probably unusable because of broadcast QRM - 
there is a strong one at the moment on 7400. 6792.5 is probably OK 
though. But guess it won't be worth listening over here.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Jim,

You have a link to  the software ?

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Am now (2245utc) transmitting a WOLF 10 beacon signal on 503.500kHz. All
> being well, I'll leave it going for a few hours at least. Any reports 
> would
> be welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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> 




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Congratulations!

Also a very welcome good argument for the ongoing negotiations in other
countries.

73's

Paul-Henrik


Quoting Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> Dear all,
>
> today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can
> use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,
> so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.
>
> I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
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>




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Mark,

I am getting 1 full page from about 10 downloads & about 1 in 5 from the 
non-JAVA page.

Getting better.

Thanks for your efforts Mark.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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Gents,
I have just put a grabber on line, access is via the MF / LF page of my 
website www.dc2light.co.uk
The system is using my main antenna, but when i can sort it out will use a 
ferrite rod active antenna.
Receiver is a softrock lite on 500KHz. Waterfall span is 501 to 509 KHz lots 
of birdies as normal here :<(

Any comments welcomed..
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR


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Hi Ray, Finbar, LF,

I didn't catch what you were testing but I got this screen grab just at 
2028utc showing the tests you carried out for pos 1, 2, 3 & 4.

You can plainly see the signal strength increase, I don't know if it helps 
but there it is !!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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At present on 500 khz.
G3KEV
G3XIZ
G3ZWH all on NORMAL CW and in QSO mode plus GI4DPE beacon mode.
All the German stns S9 around 505 khz in various  cw qrs modes
de Mal/G3KEV


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Haarp is being heard better now on 74075.... at least one way is, but not 
both... hi hi

About S5-S6

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
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k2ors@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Back to the AGC issues, Rob Sherwood of Sherwood Engineering has published a slide presentation on how poorly ALL DSP
> receivers perform under QRN conditions due to the DSP handling of AGC: 

I don't know which receivers he tested, but the problem he reported is simply caused by a too fast attack time of the 
AGC, which reacts to narrow spikes and pulses, lowering unnecessarily the gain of the receiver and causing a sort of 
pumping effect. In software that can be fixed quite easily. That the manufacturers of blazoned DSP radios haven't done 
it, that is a different discourse...

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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Hello Joe ,

On 184,006 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/VO1NA/


73 J-P f1afj



















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Yes Captain Mannering  (dads army)did u hear the echos
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> Whilst I appreciate your attachment to the Great Man, please desist from
> spamming this group with off topic "politics"....there are more 
> appropriate
> plaves for that.
>
> Alan G3NYK
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> hope u can read the call signs of the kiwi hams on the polar crossing so
> long ago...ted gawn zl2us.....peter mugrew  zl2sp..and niel sanford
> zl2aai....peter mulgrew zl2sp was killed on a fatal plane down at the
> antartic...he was a great friend of sir  ed...mrs mulgrew was to later 
> marry
> sir ed hillary...eds  1st wife and daughter was killed in a plane crash 
> near
> everest...george  zl3pn  73s  kia-ora
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Thanks Uwe - Ive seen WPF in Shanghai and traces here in Singapore before so=
 I know he can make it -
=20
Im just back from Kuala Lumpur (KL) West Malaysia and driving back over the=20=
past 4 hours the  weather has got worse and worse and its virtually dark her=
e two hours before nominated sunset. The   LF band is very very noizy but it=
s amazing how it can quiet down in just an hour or two so heres fingers cros=
sed.
=20
Ill have both 137.775-7815 and circa 136.318 KHz open up from my sundown wit=
h a third receiver on 505Khz if I can figure out three computer channels/rec=
eivers.
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:09:27 +0100> From: uwe-jannsen@ve=
rsanet.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: UNID 137.7772>=
 > Hi Laurence,> I received UA4WPF - LO66pu on that QRG some days (evenings)=
 ago.> Regards> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv> > >=20
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Thanks Uwe - Ive seen WPF in Shanghai and traces here in Singapore before so=
 I know he can make it -<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im just back from&nbsp;Kuala Lumpur (KL) West Malaysia and driving back over=
 the&nbsp;past 4 hours the &nbsp;weather has got worse and worse&nbsp;and it=
s virtually dark here two hours before nominated sunset.&nbsp;The&nbsp;&nbsp=
; LF band is very very noizy&nbsp;but its&nbsp;amazing how it can quiet down=
 in just an hour or two so heres fingers crossed.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill have both 137.775-7815 and circa&nbsp;136.318 KHz open up from my sundow=
n with a third receiver on 505Khz&nbsp;if I can figure out three computer ch=
annels/receivers.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:09:27 +0100<BR>&gt; Fr=
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Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello Uwe,
> capture 21.10z.
> qth-loc: KO85sv
> 73

thanks Andrey
73



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Willem,
     Thank you for the capture!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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  Capture wd2xgj

  In jo22mb

  Hny

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I have a couple here and they are used as general receivers +24, and proven=20=
hard to beat in most envirions. Not as good as the TS870 on 137, but there a=
gain nothing has beaten it signal handling wise inc the 850. I have one R75=20=
with a TXCO and one without - not much difference at LF given the divide by.=
=20
=20
I dont think I would sell them if thats a recommendation - filtering and gen=
eral signal handling are good to very good unless your real close to somethi=
ng with V/m; then a bit of preselection sorts the issues. Filter selection i=
s slightly complicated but thats just me being slow at times.
=20
Laurence


=20
Hi all,
Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-R75?
It's specs read ok to my way of looking, AGC fast, slow or off. Attenuator.=20=
2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequency range seem good. Room for 2 opt=
ional filters.=20
I don't see a spec for frequency stability - does anyone have any comments.
=20
73's
=20

Nic McLean
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I have a couple here and they are&nbsp;used as general receivers&nbsp;+24, a=
nd proven hard to beat in most envirions. Not as good as the TS870 on 137, b=
ut there again nothing has beaten it signal handling wise inc the 850. I hav=
e one R75&nbsp;with a TXCO and one without - not much difference at LF given=
 the divide by. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I dont think I would sell them if thats a recommendation - filtering and gen=
eral signal handling are good to very good unless your real close to somethi=
ng with V/m; then a bit of preselection sorts the issues. Filter selection i=
s slightly complicated but thats just me being slow at times.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR><BR><BR>
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=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do many people on the list use an Icom IC-=
R75?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_624373503-23012008><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It's specs read ok to my way of looking, A=
GC fast, slow or off. Attenuator. 2 level pre amp. Dynamic range and frequen=
cy range seem good. Room for 2 optional filters. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I don't see a spec for frequency stability=
 - does anyone have any comments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Argo plot here:

http://www.w1vd.com/EME1.jpg

Jay Rusgrove W1VD


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> On 18 Jan 2008 at 20:53, Andy Talbot wrote:
> 
> > A pity the transmissions start just as the moon is setting in this
> > part of the world. Andy  G4JNT
> > 
> 
> Thanks for answering my own question Andy...
> 
> The 7407.5 frequency is probably unusable because of broadcast QRM - 
> there is a strong one at the moment on 7400. 6792.5 is probably OK 
> though. But guess it won't be worth listening over here.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
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> 


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Zitat von Piotr M=C5=82ynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>:

> Dear Uwe, LF's
> Attached, there is my FIRST ever received radioamateur station on 137=20
> khz .  It happend to be dj8wx
> capture was made around 0030 UTC , 15th of  January on 136.319 khz - =20
> soft set in qrss60 mode.
> ( "1.5"  of WX  i.e X  followed by W and X )  :)
> i have terrible qrm in my location ( city downtown)  the loop antenna=20
> was INSIDE  the room (3rd floor),  around 1 m from the window
> series tuned, followed by an impedance raising transformer, then 5m=20
> of  50 ohm cable,  2-stage ( BF245 FET, BC107 )
> amplifier yielding abt 32 dB at 137 khz and finally ft857d trx. i've=20
> found in my notes jo43sv as the location of  dj8wx
> 137 khz  transmitter so this makes 706 km                            =20
>                                           73 de (very happy)=20
> peter,sq7mpj    /jo91rs/
>

Hi Peter,
congratulations. tks for the pic. seeing WX somewhat stronger than the QRM.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv


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Hi Warren
some info here that may help in finding suitable manual etc

http://www.realhamradio.com/GPS_Z3816A_Receiver.htm

73
dave
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
webpage
www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org


K2ORS wrote:
> 
> Anyone know where to get a manual for the Z3816a GPS receiver?
> HP sends you to Agilent, Agilent sends you to Symmetricon, Symmetricon 
> has nothing!
>  
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>  
>  
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LF

21.30(ish) UTC, 503.1kHz:

Just listening to OR7T (419-559) in QSO with G3XVL (NIL-419) on 503.1kHz. Fi=
rst
ever copy of G3XVL here and Rik is a lot louder in the peaks than last night=
.

Good to hear the band alive!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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thanks Andrey and Jean-Pierre.

you are right, Andrey. I investigated the screenshot agn and could find
the first dash of the P and the complet W, but vy weak.

where is UA4WPF located? his name is Anatolj I believe.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx


Zitat von Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru>:

> Hello Uwe.
> Probably it UA4WPF.
> G - the termination P, U - the beginning F.
> Forgive for bad english.
> 73!
>
>> Hello all.
>> I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
>> QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
>> who was it?
>> regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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John,



>From the test's ive carried out , the best mode would be a  simple 'arq' 
system



Non of the send and forget modes are of any use on 500 as you have no idea 
if the other end has even seen your signal ,let alone resolved it, that's 
unless the station is in ground range and then any mode works , full 
break-in cw is about as good as it gets , some of the multi tone systems 
give a longer 'clean period'  but under qso conditions , require long tx 
periods to  ensure you have covered at least one 'qsb' cycle



With the noise and deep qsb outage's I would think the best mode would be 
'amtor on prozac' with a prf of a few seconds , like a case clock



If only some one could write the source code  :  just replacing the 
conventional 'fsk' keying with 'psk' . the psk giving about 50 % better 
accuracy than similar shift 'fsk' and mimic the virtually bullet proof , 
protocol of  sitor/amto but simply calm it down a bit , so  it doesn't need 
a 'tnc' to  control the  tx/rx windows (bit of a oxymoron that as its 
windows that causes the timing problems)  ... thanks bill ..



This simple narrow mode would simply work at 30 bauds or so and basically 
sit pinging the other end during the outages till it responded , 'link up' = 
game on .  In a response to  a post on the 'multipsk' user site, some one 
did repy that they where working on a 'psk-arq' system, but I never managed 
to  follow it up ..





Rgds



Graham



G0NBD








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> As many of you know, Jay Rusgrove and I have been running tests on a 
> variety of keyboard modes for use in the 500 kHz area. Our focus has been 
> on modes that work well for casual QSO's and possibly emergency 
> communication. Resistance to noise and fading has been a prime 
> consideration.
>
> While this is a work in progress, I have posted an article at:
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Thanks John,

Will resend it in.

73

Dom

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Dom, thanks for raising the issue of the NoV, as I guess others are keen to
know where we all stand.

RSGB, at its quarterly meeting with Ofcom last September, raised the issue
of NoV extension, as well as requesting an increase of ERP.   As you may
recall several of the correspondents on this reflector provided me with some
useful material for our case.  Ofcom commented then that they would need to
gain a view from the primary user, Maritime and Coastguard Agency, as well
as wait until the outcome of WRC-07 was known.  I view that as sensible,
since apart from the small matter of RR5.83 that prohibited non-distress use
of the band 495-505kHz, there was an WRC agenda item concerning maritime use
of the spectrum in this area of interest.  We had a further quarterly
meeting with Ofcom last week and we were told that they would be making an
announcement concerning the matter during the first half of February.  

There is nothing that individual NoV holders need to do apart from wait
patiently!

As far as your own NoV is concerned I suggest that you progress it again - I
haven't seen the application.  

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

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  Thank you for the report!
73 WarrenK2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Hello  all on LF ,
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> Last night i copy  :
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello all.
I did see the letters G and U on the screen last evening at 1930UTC.
QRG 137,777.1kHz mode QRSS60.
who was it?
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





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Dear all,

today we (UBA) received notice from BIPT (Belgian Ofcom) that we can  
use the segment 501-504 kHz on a secundary base, CW only (all speeds,  
so including QRSS). Power limitation is 5 Watt ERP.

I will try to get QRV as soon as possible.

73, Rik  ON7YD


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Hello Johan!
Many thanks for information about signal of  beacon OK0EMW in SM. This
picture is nice and clear. Which program do you use?
73 and GL!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Subject: LF: DI2AM and OK0EMW strong in SM

Received on 80m dipole:

DI2AM -104dBm
OK0EMW - 117dBm

Armchair (aural) copy.

Slow QSB

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Zitat von "Roman ." <rw3adb@rambler.ru>:

> Hi Uwe and LF!
>
> DJ8WX 136.319.5 Khz was traced in Moscow this night.
> full report in the final of web-page:
> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/16jan2008/16jan2008.html
>
> 73!
> RW3ADB, Roman
>
>
>

Hi Roman,
thanks for the direct sent mails. sri I didnt answer them immediately.
yes, I know Andy/RN3AGC vy well.
thanks for the up to date screenshots from DJ8WX and for the old
ones from DI2BE.
DI2BE will be off the air the next months. Im now staying on
137kHz - back to the roots!
your question conc languages: sri, I dont speak the russian language.
but the meaning of the sentences in your and Andys websites are clear.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





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Thanks for the explanation John. I am a little puzzled why Mark 
wanted to update every few seconds for something used to display 3 
sec dot QRSS or slower where it takes several minutes for the trace 
to disappear off the screen.... Your 5 minute update seems far more 
sensible. And you are right, doing it from a server at home on ADSL 
brings the ADSL upload speed into the equation as well, something 
many people forget. Remember that 512kbits/s (NOT Mbits...) 
corresponds to only 40kBYTES/s and that is dead slow for large 
files....

I see now that Mark has reduced his file size and display size which 
has largely solved the issue. But I am puzzled when he said the old 
file was 600kB, what I downloaded was most certainly 1.2Mb!!

Sorry to hear about your antennas John, hope you soon sort it out. I 
worked MM0XAU on 40m on your island yesterday and he didn't mention 
storms, only lousy HF conditions..

73 Dave G3YMC

On 5 Jan 2008 at 10:16, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:00:17 -0000
> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
> 
> > Not sure how John GM4SLV does it, maybe you should find out.
> 
> Hi gang,
> 
> I use the old fashioned way....
> 
> Spec Lab (running on a Win98 box) saves a screenshot every 5 minutes
> into a directory on my main Linux PC (via SaMBa filesharing).
> 
> The Linux box runs a simple script every 5 minutes to upload the new
> screenshot to the web-hosting server - actually 2 different web-hosts
> at the moment as I try a new hosting company - my normal ISP's
> webspace www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm and a new
> account at www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm
> 
> 
> The script then renames the recent capturefile and moves it to a daily
> archive directory on the Linux machine.
> 
> 5 minutes later the whole thing repeats....
> 
> 
> Mark is trying to use the built-in HTTP server of speclab and serve
> the pages directly from his machine at home. I presume he has no
> external web-hosting supplier to use and wants to do it all in-house.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 73 Dave G3YMC (still off the air on 500k)
> >
> 
> 
>  ditto....
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com



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Zitat von Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>:

> Hi Uwe,
>
>> I would like to operate the dj8wx beacon on 137776.8Hz.
>> is there a vote against it?
>> Regards
>> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
> listening here for T/A and russian station is impossible, while you
> are transmitting in the T/A window.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>
>

OK Hartmut,
but the vote came vy late!
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



