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Hi Gary,

    Thank you for the capture! LF seems to be in pretty good shape!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Warren, LF,
> 
> WD2XGJ captured at 2120utc just comming out of noise.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
>


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Hi Brian, LF,

Captured your signal at 2140utc NW UK IO83QP.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
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> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
> 
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
> 
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
> 
> Reports welcome.
> 
> Brian CT1DRP
> 
> 
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Again aural copy Gary,
503.600 KHz


73
Victor
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gary - G4WGT
Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 17:20
Aan: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
Onderwerp: LF: 500 G4WGT DFCW


LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hello LF ,

Nothing here last night

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hi Jean-Pierre,
I did see this on your grabber and switched the TX off.
nice monitoring, Jean-Pierre.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> I copy  now :
>
> 136318.0 : DJ8WX ( cover by the signal of CT1DRP )
>
> 136318.0 : CT1DRP ( has prblemes of handling and slipped on 136318 )
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi Warren, LF,

WD2XGJ captured at 2120utc just comming out of noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hello Hall ,
Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this frequency ?
See picture !
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> Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
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> Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
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Ok,

Powers  round the  50/75 mW erp , hard to  get a accurate level
Ae is off set 35 ft top loaded vertical tuned against ground , mode is Cw 5=20
wpm
its been running  about 2 hours.

Tnx

Graham .


----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


Hi Graham!
Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

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Roman, RW3ADB

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EW6GB CQ 137720 qrss3

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Hello all,

Yesterday evening, bellow of band (136.317/136.320) it =93pile up"
one would have been believed on 7 MHz one day of contest !!!
I had much evil with copied the call ! (Laurie breaks my =93hut" here ! HI )

I copy :
G3AQC
DL2HRE
RA3YO
PE1RRF
CT1DRP

In top of band, the faithful friend of night :
WD2XGJ


The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu











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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello Hall ,

What is " Y " transmission in DFCW30

On 137777.6 at  20:50 utc

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Dear OM,

> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?


73,
Chris G4OKW

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Dear Brian, LF,

CT1DRP good copy at this location. Slight initial frequency drift visible
(see screenshot)


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England



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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Brian Rogerson
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Subject: LF: Testing on 136319


Good evening LF enthusiasts,

CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
after rebuilding system at new location.

Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

Reports welcome.

Brian CT1DRP



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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OKi, Graham. m.b. u ar q.r.



some report for 503/505 kHz in Moscow tonight.

http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/ok0emw1/ok0emw.html



Roman





01.12.07, 04:09, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > tnx

> > > Graham ..

> > > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > Hi Graham!

> > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > >  HI All ,

> > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=
=20

> > > > if

> > > > you

> > > > can 'see' it

> > > > Reports welcome

> > > > Tnx

> > > > Graham

> > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

> > > "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=
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> > > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

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> --

> 73!

> Roman, RW3ADB

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( good signal )
F4DTL     ( qrp beacon , good signal )
RA3YO    ( good signal )
PE1RRF    ( good signal not stable )
DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
G3AQC    ( vy vy good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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        m0fmt@beeb.net                Date :   Wed 5 Dec 15:40:47 GMT 2007          From :   Lars Kĺlland <sm6nm@telia.com>   Add To Address Book           Subject :   Correction SAQ Christmas transmission.           To :   "Lars Kalland" <lars.kalland@telia.com>                      Previous     Next     Printer Friendly Version                                             [input]   Put in Folder... Inbox Draft Sent Trash 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8                        
  CORRECTION
   
   
  I did it again!!!!!!
   
   
  Not for the first time, and possible not for the last, I made a misstake in calculating Swedish time into UTC time for the Christmas Eve transmission.
   
  The correct time should be: 08.00 UTC and 08:15 UTC.
   
  I am terrible sorry!
   
   
  Lars/SM6NM
   
   

       
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Jay and Lubos,

thank you for the friendly words.

> That´s fine, that I can read some MW info from you, after so long time.
> I hope, your informations about receiving on 500kHz will be continue. 

I hope so, too. There was only little activity from EU the past days.


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Grattis Bernt! Kul att du f=E5tt upp farten p=E5 600m!

K=F6rde du med DDS:en fr=E5n Dalsj=F6fors?

H=F6r av dig n=E5'n dag s=E5 skall jag fixa ett nytt program
med en b=E4ttre "splash screen" p=E5 displayen... Det =E4r
kanske dags f=F6r n=E5got som gasar mindre i vakuum =E4n
"Gummimannen" ;-)

72
Johan SM6LKM

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Gus skrev:
> Hello group,
> =20
> today i was in QSO with AA1A on 505 kHz, 5760 KM.
> =20
> http://500kc.com/W0RPK_report.htm
> =20
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Ah Ok, Rik,

Well my loading coil is also at the top of the vertical section , so  looks 
like your array is very similar, i found the layout to  work very well on 
500 , the vertical section and the capacity section are in a cleare location 
, the far end being attached to  the house ... Ill try altering the 
inductance .....

The ground system , i think will play a part using the system on the higher 
bands , it would be intresting to  see what is 'happeing' to  the  v/h on 
1.8 and 3.5 ..

I can re-arrange the top section into a phase cancelling section , with 3 
wires , feeding  the center section with the returns via the outer section

Note the comments on earth system at lf , its the affect of the wires at 
higher fequencys that was behind trying to  model the array as its 
performance falls off sharply over 5 mhz ... may be it turns into a faraday 
cage ?

Tnx

Graham ..



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'an 
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Hello Graham,

the load (= loading coil) is at a rather unusual place: at the top of
the vertical wire. Or to be exact, one segment below the top.
If you want the load just above the feeding point just change "w1e1"
into "w1b1" (= one segment from the bottom).

The "trick" with MMANA is that wires only interconnect at their ends,
so the correct interconnection between a single vertical wire and
multiple horizontal wires is a bit tricky and need an number of short
wires.

Regarding earth: any wire at zero height is considered to be grounded.
So no need to worry about that.
As mentioned by G3YMC ground(loss) is not taken into account for the
impedance conculations. In my opinion this is a good thing, as this
allows to calculate the radiation resistance even al low efficiency.
At 136kHz and even at 500kHz it would be hard to calculate the losses
as greenery often plays a much larger role the soil. Beyond that the
waves penetrate that deep into the soil that only in very few cases
you can assume the ground is a uniform layer.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout ..
> I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on
> the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a
> element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it
> .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section ,
> if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the
> earth system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" 
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can
> anyone'code' an array ?
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
>> adapted for 500kHz.
>> Maybe that will be of some help.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>>
>>
>
>
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Henny,,

 Thank you for the capture!
Very merrry Christmas to you!

73 Warren

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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Hi Jay
Will pass this info to Jack/VE1ZZ on cw next time we work. I do not think he=
 is on email.
I am currently concentrating on 160m catching up with old friends across the=
 globe. Look for me if u work 160. Mostly CW.


73 de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:39 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Mal

  Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio=
 operators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack a=
nd other interested parties. Tnx.

  Jay =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: g3kev=20
    To: rsgb=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
    Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


    Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of=20=
USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3=
533 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 a=
nd DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possi=
ble.=20
    He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp=20=
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
    For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity fo=
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    73 de Mal/G3KEV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will pass this info to Jack/VE1ZZ on cw nex=
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we work. I do not think he is on email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am currently concentrating on 160m catchi=
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with old friends across the globe. Look for me if u work 160.=20
Mostly&nbsp;CW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neither the XSH or XGR&nbsp;500 kHz stati=
ons=20
  are&nbsp;licensed to work amateur radio operators crossband at present.=20
  Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and other interested parties.=20
  Tnx.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">g3k=
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    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 200=
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    12:24 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160=
m cw=20
    that he was hearing lots of USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS=20
    and&nbsp;would like to&nbsp;work them xband on 3533 khz if they would li=
sten=20
    for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and DI2 stns at good stren=
gth=20
    and would like to work them also&nbsp;xband if possible. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I e=
xpect=20
    this is because of the qrp situation, Condx have to be exceptional for U=
K=20
    stns to be heard in VE or W.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>For those stns not yet&nbsp;permitted o=
n 500=20
    xband is the only oppertunity for a qso.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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Hello group, my beacon start now on 137776.4 QRSS60 with re-tuning of my =20
variometer this afternoon but always very low power this evening.
=20
Monitoring via F1AFJ's grabber  _http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm=
_=20
(http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm)=20
=20

10  meters vertical antenna with 7 mH loading coil (400mm) and 550 mH=20
variometer  Litz wire.
Transmitter home made pushpull 4X IRFP450 on a M0BMU  description for P.A.
Some =B5W only ERP estimated but not measured.
=20
=20
Reports are welcome
F4DTL in JN18FP




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<DIV>Hello group, my beacon start now on 137776.4 QRSS60 with re-tuning of m=
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variometer this afternoon&nbsp;but always very low power this evening.</DIV>
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01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):



> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.



Nothing yet, Graham -(





> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > tnx

> > Graham ..

> > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > Hi Graham!

> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > >  HI All ,

> > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , i=
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> > > you

> > > can 'see' it

> > > Reports welcome

> > > Tnx

> > > Graham

> > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> --

> 73!

> Roman, RW3ADB

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Reflector seems to work, Merry Xmas to Mal!   73 Reino, OH7OL.
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> Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
> G3KEV
> 


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Hello LFers,

Wishing all of my friends "across the pond" the very best
of the season.  I hope Santa treated all of you with some
new toys to play with!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM CW
i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Hi JP,

Thank-you for the report.
Joe

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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Hi all LF's
   
  Yep good signal as usual. Thanks Lars.
   
  Seasons greetings to all.
   
  petefmt

Lubomír Bobalík <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:
        
            Hallo LF!
  Transmitter SAQ is ON and it is just tuned up.
   
  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



       
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<div>Hi all LF's</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Yep good signal as usual. Thanks Lars.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Seasons greetings to all.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>Lubomír Bobalík &lt;lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId>  <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator>  <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C8460A.5185CE40" rel=File-List>  <STYLE>  <!--   /* Style Definitions */   p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal   {mso-style-parent:"";   margin:0cm;   margin-bottom:.0001pt;   mso-pagination:widow-orphan;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";   mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}  a:link, span.MsoHyperlink   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;   text-underline:single;}  a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed  
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Gary.
The FT 847 is good on 500 khz with a good antenna. I have one here but the
Datong UC/1 upconverter IF 144 and 28 mhz fed into the ICOM 746 is better.
Those using the mini whip are doing well but it is no substitute for a real
antenna like a 1/4 wave or large loop if you have the space and a quiet
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73 Mal/G3KEV


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> Hi John, Jay, LF,
>
> Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only
for
> John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.
>
> I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following,
> quite surprised at the results :-
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> 1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
> 2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.
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> Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with
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Jean-Pierre, Willem,

     Thanks for the report and captures!

>WD2XGJ ( good , audible  qsb short time  ! )

OK! I will work on a more pwerful amplifier -- QRO !

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Hello  Warren ,  Brian and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( good , audible , qsb short time  ! )
CT1DRP    ( vy good , audible ! )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello  Warren  ,

Enormous signal in this moment! =85.  If I had your TX and ant, and you my R=
X, one will be able to make qso every evening!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





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Yes, Mal, It was very nice QSO! Your signal was fine, becouse there is
no QRN on the band now.
=20
73 and TNX for this contact!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:12 AM
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Subject: LF: Re: [500] DI2BO once more
=20
Tnx Lubos for the nice xband qso 502.5/3533 khz a few minutes ago at
2307utc 27/12/07
HNY and 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more
=20
Unbelievably strong signal now!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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signal was fine, becouse there is no QRN on the band now.<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73 and TNX for this con=
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ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal<br>
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07
12:12 AM<br>
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org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500] DI2BO=20=
once
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l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tnx Lubos for the nice=
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style=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bo=
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DI2BO once more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Thanks to Piotr, Paul-Henrik, Jose Manuel, and Dave AA1A for the reports on 
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> Hi Warrren, LF
> sm6bhz is on air now.  pse , see attached   cut-off from spectran taken
> at 2117 UTC  - just few minutes ago
> but i think he slightly went up on frequency.  now it is 505.105 kHz
> while my  previous  'recordings'   show 505.1
>                    73, peter,  sq7mpj    (jo91rs)
>
> 



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> Hi LF
> 
> EW6GB CQ 137720 qrss3
> 
NW QRSS10

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Hello Chris ,
The transmission is identified it acts of F6BIR in test, thank you .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Chris Trayner a =E9crit :
> Dear OM,
>
>  =20
>> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
>>    =20
> 20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
>
> Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?
>
>
> 73,
> Chris G4OKW
>
>  =20

--=20
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Good T/A conditions last night. Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW along with the
QRSS signal. Strong CW peaks from WE2XGR/6 on 503.7 kHz. Traces of
the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 were only visible for about
20 minutes.
Nice copy of the JT2 signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/3. Best around
02:45 UTC.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hallo Geri!
That=B4s fine, thanks for this information!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG
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***********************************************
=20
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
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Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air
=20
Hello YLs and OMs,,
=20
DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day,
later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it
can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20
=20
Looking forward to your reception report.=20
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
=20
=20

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Holger 'Geri=
', DK8KW<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 01, 20=
02
3:14 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO=20=
is
back on the air</span></font></p>

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ck'>DI2BO
is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. For the ti=
me
being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later this year I
will swith to the &quot;beacon on demand&quot;-mode so that it can be switch=
ed
on automatically by calling a telephone number. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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DK8KW / DI2BO<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Ed,
  Thanks for the report!
Happy Christmas!

vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: dl2hre=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:12 AM
  Subject: LF: XGJ cpy in jo51


  Hi Waren LF.

  yesterday at 23utc nice cpy of XGJ, it started at 2245utc with full "XGJ".=
 no picture made sri.

  73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Thanks for the report!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Happy Christmas!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: XGJ cpy in jo51</DIV>
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jose -

I don't know, not being anywhere near the actual site.  However, I've
forwarded this to Keith G0WYS who should be able to tell you all you
need to know...

Andy  G4JNT
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On 02/12/2007, Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz, i=
s
> fully horizontal?
>
> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
>
>

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01.12.07, 05:47, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):



> Look my report on the web, pse.

> I copy signal on 503.2 at 5.01 mks=2.01z



(/mistaken, sorry!)!



> May be it was you b4 off the TX?



Look on the shoot, pse.

503.12 kHz it was a NDB beacon here?!





> 01.12.07, 04:52, Graham 



(g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > QRT FROM 0200  HRS

> > TNX

> > G ..

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:09 AM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> > G ..

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> > Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > > tnx

> > > > Graham ..

> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > > Hi Graham!

> > > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > > >  HI All ,

> > > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , 

> > > > > if

> > > > > you

> > > > > can 'see' it

> > > > > Reports welcome

> > > > > Tnx

> > > > > Graham

> > > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > > --

> > > > 73!

> > > > Roman, RW3ADB

> > > > "ěŔÄÉ ÚÁ ŇÁÂĎÔĎĘ": îĎ×ŮĘ ËĎÎËŐŇÓ ÎÁ ńÎÄĹËÓ.ćĎÔËÁČ

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> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

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Hi Warrren, LF
sm6bhz is on air now.  pse , see attached   cut-off from spectran taken 
at 2117 UTC  - just few minutes ago
but i think he slightly went up on frequency.  now it is 505.105 kHz 
while my  previous  'recordings'   show 505.1
                    73, peter,  sq7mpj    (jo91rs)


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Good copy of S57A this evening at 2000z on 137,705 kHz. Screenshot attached.

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( Well in spite of the small power )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( Nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( Nil )
136318.0 : DJ8WX    (Good )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( Nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( ???????? )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu








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Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of USA 
stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3533 
khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and 
DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if 
possible.
He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp 
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity for a 
qso.
73 de Mal/G3KEV


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expec=
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is the only oppertunity for a qso.</FONT></DIV>
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I inly could monitor the band some ten minutes, between 2:55 and 3:05UTC, li=
stening good audible signals again from Bob, WE2XGR/6, until 03:00, but then=
 perhaps he went QRT?.
No other station copied here in this short time interval.


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Dear LF Group,

The beacon on 189.9496 kHz is back on the air:  QRSS60 at 2 minutes
past each quarter hour to avoid any potential for interference
with the reception experiments with GB3SSS.

Any reports will be gratefully received.

73
Joe VO1NA




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Warren,

Gus is transmitting now on 505.1.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX



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> Hello the list,
>
>  Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was=20
> supposed to expire on November 30.
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
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Hi LF,

Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using=
 an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design par=
ameters for the network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency=20=
502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1  38=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2  84=C2=B5H, C1 cons=
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 and with a 3v rms signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w=
 into a Marconi TF1152A/1 (50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when=
 12v is removed from the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjust=
ed for maximum power output, but is never the same position twice, and there=
 seems to be a very critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output=
, b) anything that looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right=
 there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wr=
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=20

My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com

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73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV

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500kHz PA?. I am using an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L =C2=A0ou=
tput network the design
parameters for the network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequen=
cy
502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1 =C2=A038=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2 =C2=A084=C2=
=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF
fixed capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I h=
ave
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi TF1=
152A/1
(50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from the P=
A and
reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power output, but=
 is
never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very critical adjustm=
ent
of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that looks like a sine wav=
e, although
when I have got it right there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as=
 to
what may be going wrong? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.

Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his new TX.
I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.

I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I try RTTY.
Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.

I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.

There's a new man: G0BBL,  Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so listen for him.
Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.

Chris G3XIZ

mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote: All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
Mal/G3KEV



       
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Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.<br><br>Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his new TX.<br>I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.<br><br>I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I try RTTY.<br>Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.<br><br>I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.<br><br>There's a new man: G0BBL,&nbsp; Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so listen for him.<br>Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.<br><br>Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>mal &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.<br>Mal/G3KEV<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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LF, Nicolas,

Nothing seen at this QTH, I'm afraid. Pehaps you need to add some
top-loading to your antenna!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
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  Subject: LF: F4DTL beacon on 137776.4 now


  Hello group, my beacon start now on 137776.4 QRSS60 with re-tuning of my
variometer this afternoon but always very low power this evening.

  Monitoring via F1AFJ's grabber
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm


  10 meters vertical antenna with 7 mH loading coil (400mm) and 550 mH
variometer Litz wire.
  Transmitter home made pushpull 4X IRFP450 on a M0BMU description for P.A.
  Some ľW only ERP estimated but not measured.


  Reports are welcome
  F4DTL in JN18FP

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D934584616-22122007>LF, Nicolas,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D934584616-22122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D934584616-22122007>Nothing seen at this QTH, I'm afraid.=20=
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  <DIV><STRONG>Some =B5W only ERP estimated but not measured.</STRONG></DIV>
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Hi Roman, LF,

Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about 
2300 utc or a little later.

Keep watching please.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:34 PM
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> Hi Gary & LF!
>
>
>
> Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.
>
> QRSS10.
>
>
>
> Did not copy your signal, Gary.
>
> Your TX is off now?
>
>
>
> 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):
>
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>
>> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.
>
>> Reports welcome.
>
>> 73
>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> --
>
> 73!
>
> Roman, RW3ADB
>
>
> 




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Was looking for Brian CT1DRP this morning but weve had really foul weather h=
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Hi all,

I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
The mast I used nouw is a 12.5 Meter from zk-antennen.de=20

I remember that there was some discussion about this new mast on the refecto=
r.
At that time I looked, only it was verry expensif.

Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in Japan.

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Hello  Warren ,  Brian and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( good , audible , qsb short time  ! )
CT1DRP    ( vy good , audible ! )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
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see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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Hi Graham, I think if you are hoping to get a handle on the effect of an
elevated loading coil you are in for a disappointment, you can calculate the
(small) increase in Rrad this gives. The problem is the one illuminated by
Jim's recent experiments....the effect of the surrounding environment. As I
understand it an elevated loading coil would give no real advantages in
Jim's open field situation. However its effect is to change the current
distribution on the radiating section, and this is the bit where any
coupling to surrounding "environment" leads to big losses. The effect of the
elevated coil is to reduce the voltage on the radiating section thus
reducing the current diverted throught the couple capacitance into the lossy
surroundings (voltage times loss reactance....reducing the voltage, reduces
the current diverted from flowing through all the distributed Rrad).

Sadly, like the effect of the top capacitance reducing the ground loss,
these environmental effects are not modelled.....and a simulator is only as
good as the model and the equations used. Hint for a mathematically minded
amateur !!

As an aside Jim's measurements disprove my idea that the "shortfall" in
measured ERP over the calculated value, was due to poor ground causing more
radiation of the signal upward from a "small" aerial (HFC 2007). It would
seem from Jim's tests that it is purely an "environment loss thing". An
ounce of measurement is worth a ton of theory (half baked or otherwise !)

Cheers and HNY de Alan G3NYK


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> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I
> see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae
is
> it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could
> be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you
> could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if
i
> could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth
> system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'
an
> array ?
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> > attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> > adapted for 500kHz.
> > Maybe that will be of some help.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
> >
> > Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> >
> >> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> >> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> >> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet
!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> >> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> >> parallel 2 wire section ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tnx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> G0NBD
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Hi LF

agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/lf_ne=
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also good cpy of UA4WPF and RA3YO.

merry christmas Ed DL2HRE=20

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Hi Jim, that is a very interesting comparison. I estimated the effective
height of my inverted L by extrapolating Dick's (PA0SE) field strength
measurements for DCF39 and got a figure of 6m for my 9m high aerial. The
vertical is pulled away from the gable end of the house by about 6 to 8
feet, and the top wire goes over several 12foot hight fruit trees and
alongside some 50 foot Eucalyptus for a short distance. The deficit is
amazingly similar to your findings. One thing that is nice to note is that
the extra loss for increasing the height is not proportional, so that there
is a good amount to be gained (as we found) by increasing the height of a
aerial, even in a lossy location. The effective height did not depend on the
amount of top-load capacitance (the minimum length was 30m) but the measured
loss resistance (RF Bridge) reduced considerably as I went from 250pF (30m
top-wire) to 850pF.(150m)

One question that may be pertinent ....how do the heights of the
trees/environment compare with the physical aerial height? I am wondering
whether the loss, which might be considered as fraction of the power,
capacitively coupled to a loss resistor, is mostly from the lower part of
the vertical. This would make sense because any current flowing in the top
wire does not materially add to the radiated signal and current diverted
from "just above the loading coil" cannot flow throught the rest of the
distributed (along the vertical leg) radiation resistance. This might help
explain the effective-height deficit only increasing slowly with increase in
physical height

Great Work
Happy Christmas
Alan G3NYK

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Dear LF Group,

After doing the "open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have
been repeating field strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for
comparison.
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Gary,

I'm still pretty green at this, but it looks like there just wasn't 
enough signal. The "*" at the end of the line indicates a lock, but the 
message decoding is an all or nothing process. If there is any error, 
then no message will appear.

I'm going to play locally with this some more today, and may be able to 
offer better instructions for tonight. Thanks!

John Andrews, W1TAG

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Hello the list,
   There are now pictures of Finbar GI4DPE's 500 kHz station on the Lowfer 
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http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php
Under the 600 meter section.

Enjoy!
73 Warren K2ORS (& etc)



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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for running the grabber (which I frequently visited in the past 
weeks).
I don't think that the dynamic range of the spectrum display in SpecLab 
has changed that much,
but there may be some points to consider:

- use one of the FFT windows with a large stopband attenuation.
There is a nice comparison of different FFT windows here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_function

( -> the "Hann" window is ok, but avoid the "Rectangular" window).

- reduce the soundcard volume (if you use a soundcard for input) so the 
maximum peak level stays at least 6 dB below the clipping level (use one 
of the "monitor scopes" to see this).

- the noiseblanker may help to reduce the effect of "dog-boning" if the 
strong signal uses hard on/off-keying (quite likely for class-C amplifiers).

Besides that, V2.71 "beta 3" is available, but I wouldn't recommend it 
for unattended operation because it is not thoroughly tested (yet). 
Murphy will make sure it will crash only after something interesting 
appeared on the screen ;-)

All the best for 2008 to everyone,
  Cheers, 
      Wolf .



Jean-Pierre Méré schrieb:
> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> For better managing the strong signals , I passed the grabber to the
> version 2.7b20 of SpectrunLab ( thank you Wolf for this splendid tool )
>  I hope for that I did not make errors, that seems to function correctly
> until there! one will be fixed tomorrow !
>
> grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



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Ok Jim,

Looks like the /P qth  is at  IO91WR ?, or very close , Intresting signal=20
last night as the very little qsb , fine on the rain, well at least the=20
ground was constantly damp .. I find, if i have a shower of rain, i have to=20
re-tune ....

If your going to  run on 137 assume you are mains powerd ?

Graham .




----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: Re: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8


> Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the
> programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The=20
> 1/2-space
> DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient=20
> for
> field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier.
>
> Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an=20
> "open
> field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna,
> which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the
> effect of the site on antenna performance.  The /P location is near=20
> Newgate
> Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and=20
> really
> is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain
> keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the=20
> pictures
> of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago!
>
> A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance
> measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to=20
> be
> close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss
> resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5
> ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as
> my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly
> identical.
>
> Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna=20
> on
> 136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results=20
> by
> the weekend.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:58 PM
> Subject: LF: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8
>
>
>>
>> Hallo Mike and All!
>> I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
>> signal is growing stronger.
>>
>> 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>
>
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Hello all, im beaconing QRP now on 136.3198 with TEST F4DTL.
Good monitoring with F1AFJ's grabber this evening.
 
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Hi All,
Now transmitting on 136,319.5kHz to avoid possible Loran at 320.
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Hi All,<br>Now transmitting on 136,319.5kHz to avoid possible Loran at 320.<br>QRSS 90sec dots.<br>73 Laurie <br>

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Hi all
Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
qsb. Rx not calibrated.
Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007

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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong a short moment )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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137kHz: Copied UA4WPF on 137.7772 kHz last night. Only poor copy of
S57A on 137.7 because my antenna was directed in the opposite
direction.

Captures of UA4WPF can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500kHz: Brief copy of WD2XSH/17 about 23:45 UTC in QRSS3 on
505.259kHz. Only faint traces from WD2XSH/6 about 04:35 in QRSS3 on
505.266 kHz. Excellent copy of the WOLF20 transmission from WE2XGR/3
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137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
strong peaks.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
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http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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GB3SSS from Poldhu, Cornwall, is back again for a few months.  Only
this time it is transmitting on 3597.0kHz, for 80m Transatlantic
propagation tests over the winter months.

Transmissions are every 15 minutes, starting on the 00/15/30/45 minute
interval and use the same format as the 1.96MHz beacon last year, ie
callsign followed by two sets of 6dB power steps, then a PSK31 message
starting at the 30 second boundary.

The 5MHz beacon monitoring software available from :

http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacon%20monitoring.htm

can be used to automatically log this beacon, which appears on the red
trace as if it were GB3RAL.

-- 
Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


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Happy Christmas and Season's greetings to LF and MF enthusiasts everwhere!
May your radiated EIRPs be equal to your calculated EIRPs, and all your
toroids be large ones!

73 de Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England

(G3WCB is currently in XMAS beacon mode 9WPM and QRSS3 on 503.850 until I
can sneak away from the family festivities!)



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of J. B. Weazle
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Hello LFers,

Wishing all of my friends "across the pond" the very best
of the season.  I hope Santa treated all of you with some
new toys to play with!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle







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Jay, Mal,

    Received a QSL card today from Jack VE1ZZ. Jack apparently confused me w=
ith WD2XSH/17, but also reports hearing WE2XGR/1, WE2XGR/2, WE2XGR/6 etc.=20

  More detals and pictures of the QSL are online at:
http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D505#post505

73 Warren K2ORS (& etc)
             =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:39 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Mal

  Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio=
 operators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack a=
nd other interested parties. Tnx.

  Jay =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: g3kev=20
    To: rsgb=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
    Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


    Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of=20=
USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3=
533 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 a=
nd DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possi=
ble.=20
    He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp=20=
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
    For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity fo=
r a qso.
    73 de Mal/G3KEV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay, Mal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Received a QSL card toda=
y from=20
Jack VE1ZZ. Jack apparently confused me with WD2XSH/17, but also reports hea=
ring=20
WE2XGR/1, WE2XGR/2, WE2XGR/6 etc. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; More detals and pictures of the QSL=20=
are=20
online at:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/for=
ums/showthread.php?p=3D505#post505">http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showth=
read.php?p=3D505#post505</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS (&amp; etc)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DJRusgrove@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:JRusgrove@comcast.net">Jay=
=20
  Rusgrove</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 2007=20=
1:39=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neither the XSH or XGR&nbsp;500 kHz stati=
ons=20
  are&nbsp;licensed to work amateur radio operators crossband at present.=20
  Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and other interested parties.=20
  Tnx.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">g3k=
ev</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A>=
 </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 200=
7=20
    12:24 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160=
m cw=20
    that he was hearing lots of USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS=20
    and&nbsp;would like to&nbsp;work them xband on 3533 khz if they would li=
sten=20
    for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and DI2 stns at good stren=
gth=20
    and would like to work them also&nbsp;xband if possible. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I e=
xpect=20
    this is because of the qrp situation, Condx have to be exceptional for U=
K=20
    stns to be heard in VE or W.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>For those stns not yet&nbsp;permitted o=
n 500=20
    xband is the only oppertunity for a qso.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello John,

thanks for putting up your grabber on the internet.

I am currently observing DI2BO's signal in comparison to other signals on th
air. It is intersting to see how big the QSB can be from one minute to the
other. DI2AM seems to be stable throughout the day, DI2BO's signal with much
less ERP (my best guess is in the 100 mW range with a 1 Ampere antenna
current) can only be seen from time to time, but sometimes it comes up
almost as strong as DI2AM.

The distance is around 1100 km.

Again, thanks for providing this service. Best 73 and a Merry Christmas!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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> RA9CUA beacon 137778.4 adfcw60
> Dmitry
 
Copied RA9CUA here 20:00-22:00. Until 21:00 the upper part of the DFCW
signal was very close to the Sylt Loran line on 137.78374 kHz.

A captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

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Jose
Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an=20=
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73 de Mal/g3kev

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  Hi all,

  Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DL2HRE
CT1DRP
F6BIR ( in test)

WD2XGJ

The captures of night are with this URL :
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see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Jean-Pierre,
  Thanks for the report!
WD2XGJ on low power for a few more days.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello  all on LF ,
> 
> Last night i copy  :
> 
> 137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
> 137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
> 137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
> 136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
> 136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
> 136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
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> 
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello Uwe and LF ,

I copy your beacon now ! what your conditions please ?

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu




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Henny,
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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  0.30z henny pa3cpm
  73s

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Jean-Pierre,
  Thank you!
Warren

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> Hi Warren,
> Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
> in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
> emitted for a test . The grabber is now ready for you! .......
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> 



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Sry nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hi Ed, groop
> 
> nice signal of UA4WPF, may be also traces of RA9CUA??? pse cfm.

cfm - RA9CUA
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

Dmitry






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Jim,

   Interesting treatise on short antennas and the non-propagating 
"evanescent" modes that couple in to surrounding objects on AB2EZ's web 
page:

"Typically, the evanescent modes interact with nearby objects, such as the 
ground, buildings, trees, etc. The evanescent mode fields produce currents 
in these objects. which will be converted to heat unless the objects are 
perfect conductors. Evanescent modes can also produce magnetic fields in 
objects which also produce heat through hysteresis effects.
The shorter the antenna is compared to a wavelength, the larger the strength 
of the non-propagating, evanescent field near the antenna (the sum of the 
propagating and the non-propagating fields is often referred to as the "near 
field" of the antenna), compared to the strength of the propagating field 
near the antenna. and thus the larger the percentage of power that is 
converted to heat by losses associated with the evanescent modes."

http://mysite.verizon.net/sdp2/id21.html


73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the comments...
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>
>> Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field
>> strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are
> indeed
>> very close.
>
> I have just re-calculated the ERP based on values of Rrad obtained using a
> NEC-based antenna simulator (MMANA-GAL). This should give a more accurate
> value of Rrad than the simple formulas based on capacitance, because a 
> more
> complicated geometry can be modelled, and the interaction of the fields of
> the horizontal and vertical parts of the antenna will be accounted for. 
> This
> resulted in slightly higher values of Rrad, and slightly higher expected
> ERP. This gave even better agreement between calculated and measured ERP 
> at
> the open-field site - at 136k the measured ERP is now +0.3dB on the
> calculate value, and at 503k it is -0.1dB. This is probably well within 
> the
> likely measurement uncertainties.
>
> G3NYK wrote:
>
>> I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and
> the
>> environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
>> capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all
> of
>> the distributed Rrad.
>
> I think this ties up with the "tree current" experiment I did some months
> back - it was clear then that, especially on 136k, a substantial 
> proportion
> of the antenna current was returning to ground through the trees near the
> antenna. In the far field, the total radiation would be a function of the
> superposition of the currents flowing "up" the antenna and "down" the
> trees - the bigger the trees, and the more current flowing in them, the 
> more
> they would tend to cancel the radiation from the antenna. The measurements
> of the "tree current" were very rough, but at 500kHz it appeared that the
> currents were a smaller fraction of the antenna current, which would tie 
> up
> with the smaller observed reduction in Rrad at 500kHz.
>
> G3YMC wrote:
>
>> What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in
>> the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the
>> open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics
>> rather than solely due to the surrounding trees.
>
> The ground was probably as similar as it is possible to be at two separate
> locations - the open field site was only about 4km from my home QTH, and
> geographically part of the same landscape. The soil in both places is a
> heavy clay that is waterlogged at this time of year. If anything, the 
> ground
> was wetter at the /P location, because my QTH is on a slope and relatively
> well drained, but I generally find that wetter conditions lead to higher
> loss resistance. It would certainly be interesting to see how the type of
> ground afffects loss resistance, but it would probably be quite hard to 
> find
> a suitable selection of sites.
>
> G3LDO wrote:
>
>> At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my
>> garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet.
>
> At my QTH, over the period I have been making antenna measurements, the
> antenna has stayed basically the same, but the surrounding trees have 
> grown
> quite a bit larger. During this time, the apparent Rrad has decreased to
> about half of its initial value, and Rloss has increased by around 50%.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> 



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Hi Dave

I think it was UA4WPF  on 137777.2

Dmitry


>Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc
>this
>evening. Screenshot attached.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Brian

Reception continued through the night at a similar level to the earler capture...with the usual
periods of fading and no copy. Fade out was at 0300Z.

What is the new antenna and power level?

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WER2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
> Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
> who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>
> My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
> than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
> on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>
> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.
>
> For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site
> http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>
> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
> At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
> >Good evening LF enthusiasts,
> >
> >CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> >after rebuilding system at new location.
> >
> >Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
> >
> >Reports welcome.
> >
> >Brian CT1DRP
> >
>
>
>



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Dear Dave, Gary, Jay, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments - Yes, with a bit more work I hope to convert this
into a publishable article.

As far as achieving the "legal limit" ERP goes, the UK licence regulations
for 136k and 500k don't currently specify a TX power limit, just an ERP of
1W and 100mW respectively. How you determine the ERP isn't specified either,
although for the 500k Special Research Permit you are required to explain
how you intend to achieve compliance. So in principle you can just turn up
the power until the limit is achieved. This is easily done on 500kHz (about
9W needed for the home QTH antenna, against 1.5W for the open field antenna
to get 100mW ERP), but not really feasible on 136k, which would need only a
few hundred watts for 1W ERP with the open field antenna, but 4 - 5 kW for
the home QTH antenna, which would probably suffer breakdown of some form
before this level was reached.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Mal & LF

You are a honest 579 here in Vaasa at 17.18UTC calling CQ on 502.5kHz

No HF TX available here at the moment.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> Hi all
> Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of act=
y.
> The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
> I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
>




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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Testing on 136319



> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.




Brian, as was to be expected, the strongest ham signal I=B4ve ever heard her=
e=20
on the band.

73, Jos=E9, EA1PX.....180 km away


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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
WD2XGJ ran 1.5kW last night (short transmission).

WD2XGJ will run QRP (250 Watts) for the rest of 2007.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:14 AM
Subject: LF: [137] last night


Hello all,

Yesterday evening, bellow of band (136.317/136.320) it pile up"
one would have been believed on 7 MHz one day of contest !!!
I had much evil with copied the call ! (Laurie breaks my hut" here ! HI )

I copy :
G3AQC
DL2HRE
RA3YO
PE1RRF
CT1DRP

In top of band, the faithful friend of night :
WD2XGJ


The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu













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Hi Markus,

Thanks for that explanation, that must be the reason why I was seeing 
additional lines. All is normal from yesterday (30th).

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
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Hi Gary, LF,

according to my 100 kHz monitor, Anthorn Loran came on the Lessay chain rate 
(GRI 6731) yesterday 10:25 UT. After some adjustments of the transmission 
delay, they reached their "final parking position" in the old Rugby slot 
(27.3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. The sideband lines should now be on 
the usual frequencies, i.e. exact multiples of 100 kHz / 6731 / 2.

The time-domain graph was recorded 2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 
(top), using 22050 samples/s (left to right) and phase encoded as colour.

Best wishes to all

Markus, DF6NM





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn


> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran
> Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not
> shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen.
>
> My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would
> have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the
> same lines but stronger.
>
> Any comments please.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>



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> not even this reflector is exciting.
> even the satellite business has gone.
> Amateur radio could be on the way out.
> watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK

Mal, it's nice to see you more positive than usual.

VE7SL


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pse give time and qrg of 500 khz stns

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 20/21 Dec


> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
> UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
> strong peaks.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
> Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>


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Victor, LF,

Thank you for the report, looks strong on the capture.

Antenna is 9 metres vertical with elevated inductance & small capacity top 
load & ERP is 100 mW .

The weather is wet, wild & windy, I am keeping an eye on the antennas here.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Good signal Gary,
>
> 73
> PA3FNY
> JO22NC 




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Jean-Pierre,

  Your grabber is an excellent service to the LF community, thank you!
The European window at 136.318 will let North American amateurs know when th=
ere is European activity to look for.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Warren ,

  K2ORS a =E9crit :=20
    WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05 U=
TC!
    Sunset here 21:12 UTC.
  Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset
  (in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test
  for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it  ;-)  =20

  73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jean-Pierre,</FONT></DIV>
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>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG a=
nd
call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD" after
some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.

Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.

Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if you
will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural co=
py
should be possible.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Dear LF Group,

I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
week - this is a summary of the results.

The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
should have quite high conductivity.

I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
600k.

Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.

Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%

Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
82mW,
difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%

Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%

Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%

So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
surrounding trees and buildings.

The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!

The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
reasonably high conductivity.

So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
considered too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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WE2XGR/6 now visible/audible on 507.3 khz beacon mode 0039/46 utc 24/12/2007
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Hi David - 
   
  I'm getting half a microvolt from your beacon using a 3 turn loop with area of one square metre. I figure that works out at 17 microvolts per metre field strength. I'm 23 km due north of you so I reckon that adds up to an EIRP of 5.1 milliwatts. Anyone care to check my sums?
   
  The loop is in my garden so might be affected by my aerials and house wiring but it does give deep nulls and sensible readings on stronger signals. Half a microvolt is also the minimum usable reading on my SPM-30 SLM so there may be errors due to the low signal-to-noise ratio. 
   
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<DIV>Hi David - </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I'm getting half a microvolt from your beacon using a 3 turn loop with area of one square metre. I figure that works out at 17 microvolts per metre field strength. I'm&nbsp;23 km due north of you so&nbsp;I reckon that adds up to an EIRP of 5.1 milliwatts. Anyone care to check my sums?</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The loop is in my garden so might be affected by my aerials and house wiring but it does give deep nulls and sensible readings on stronger signals. Half a microvolt is also the&nbsp;minimum usable reading on my SPM-30 SLM so there may be errors due to the low signal-to-noise ratio.&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Brian (G3YKB)&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>g0mrf@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_f0237ff9-c51f-4273-a999-0b02b5002497>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I
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any activity on 137KHz.
the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WCB.

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Re Uwe !

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> G3AQC is agn on the QRG.
No no ! it you on 318 !! good propag .......
> I changed the QRG to 136,319kHz
Ok  137318.5 is vy good , no problem this frequency is free .
I changed the colors of Grabber so that it is more readable

73 qro  Jean-Pierre f1afj

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WD2XGJ is off the air while I am on a business trip. 

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WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello LF ,
> 
> This evening , good copy of beacon CT1DRP  , see picture .
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> -- 
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Hi LF,

Starting test transmission tonight at 1700 utc & will possibly continue 
until 2300 utc or a little later.

Conditions as before, sending "G4WGT" in DFCW10, 9 metres high vertical 
antenna with elevated inductance & small square capacitive topload (5.75 Sq 
Mtrs) at  100 mW ERP.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Sorry, make that 137,778 kHz ;-)

Dave G3WCB

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 19 December 2007 22:33
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Subject: [137] Who is this?


Lf,

Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc this
evening. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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WD2XGJ will be running low power (250 watts out) for the next few days.

Happy Christmas!
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Hello Daved and LFers!
I received on 503.7kHz whole night, bud nothing. The conditions was not
as good as one night before. Signals from German beacons was lower.
Well . may be this night!
73
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>I received on 503.7kHz whole night, bud nothing. T=
he conditions
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Hartmut,

Thanks for the captures on your 500 KHz page.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
> WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
> Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
> transmission from G0MRF were readable.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
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On 9 Dec 2007 at 13:14, James Moritz wrote:

> Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of
> lengths of wire and a ground system, but the nature of the
> surroundings must be considered too.

What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in 
the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the 
open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics 
rather than solely due to the surrounding trees. I suspect here I 
have the worst of both with a garden made of sand (which I reach if I 
dig more than a foot down) and lots of surrounding vegetation - 
producing an earth resistance of several 100 ohms.

Interesting experiments.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello YLs and OMs,,

DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. For=20=
the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later thi=
s year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be switche=
d on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

Looking forward to your reception report.=20

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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<DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.=
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Hello Brian ,

Happy to find your signal !
Good copy of your sig. ( 30 dB over the noise ! )
see picture

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the capture! Excellent band conditions.

I noted that from 02:30-03:00 when I put a carrier on that John's signal 
appeared upside down (mirror image) at 137.780-137.7806,
probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
products due to the mixing of strong signals!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XES


Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu






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Hello LF ,

Wahooooo Brian vy good copy of CT1DRP ( your sig is audibly ! )

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137kHz: Copied UA4WPF and WD2XGJ

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500kHz: Copied G3XVL on 501.5 kHz and G0MRF on 503.7 kHz

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

T/A conditions are still poor on 500 kHz, captured a CW trace on
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Hello Geri,
i had a much better receiption last night as the night before:
=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01
<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01>=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_02
<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_02>=20
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
Sent: 16 December 2007 12:55
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


Hello Marco,
=20
thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range,
running 10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the
weak signal.
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH

=20

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Scholz, Marco <mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com>=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Cc: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW <mailto:geri@dk8kw.de> =20
    Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
    Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air

    Good morning Geri,
    copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but
unfortunately to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again
tonight.
    =20
    http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
   =20
    http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03
    =20
    Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip
    =20
    vy73
    Marco
    DD7PC
    =20
    JN49ax

  _____ =20

    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
    Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air
   =20
   =20
    Hello YLs and OMs,,
    =20
    DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is
505.015 kHz. For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24
hours a day, later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode
so that it can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone
number.=20
    =20
    Looking forward to your reception report.=20
    =20
    Best 73
    =20
    Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
    =20
    =20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>i had a much be=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
p://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_1<=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>vy73</SPAN></DI=
V>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>Marco</SPAN></D=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>DD7PC</SPAN></D=
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<FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Geri=
',=20
DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 December 2007 12:55<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO=20=
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back on the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hello Marco,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, runni=
ng=20
10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak=20
signal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
olz,=20
  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org    href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de    hre=
f=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:=
15=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is=
 back=20
  on the air</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Good morning=20
  Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>copied traces=
 of your=20
  signal many times over last night, but unfortunately to weak for a full co=
py=20
  of your call sign. I try again tonight.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
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=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
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=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_03</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yae=
su FT-857D=20
  &amp; PA0RDT MiniWhip</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></=
DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>DD7PC</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN    class=3D251191110-16122007>JN49ax</SP=
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Ge=
ri',=20
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k on=20
  the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
z.=20
  For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, lat=
er=20
  this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
  switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( nil )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.0 : WX          ( good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( vy good signal )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu






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Hi Jean-Pierre,
      Thanks for the report!

> If I had your TX and ant, and you my RX, one will be able to make qso 
> every evening!

    That is the ideal!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Hello  Warren  ,

Enormous signal in this moment! .  If I had your TX and ant, and you my RX, 
one will be able to make qso every evening!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht







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Chaps - considering the very (very) noizy qrn wise of constant s9 plus qrn t=
his is good going; actually receiving anything at all at our erp=B4s given t=
he tropical equatorial location is a good christmas present.
=20
9V1 LF Rx continues on =B4auto=B4
R75 E probe at appx 23m=20
http://kl1x.com
=20
73
Laurence bicycle mobile in EA8
Sunny 22C
 Hi Laurence and Dmitry,I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber=
, but did you notice traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in fr=
equency at about 21:00could this have been PE1RRF ? Sadly no trace of my tra=
nsmission, although I belive conditions are getting to be good, The Kp index=
 is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now several dayssince the la=
st disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn. M=
ay have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.Merry Christmas to all.L=
aurie.G3AQC.=20
_________________________________________________________________
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<BR>Chaps - considering the very (very) noizy qrn wise of constant s9 plus q=
rn this is good going; actually receiving anything at all at our erp=B4s giv=
en the tropical equatorial location is a good christmas present.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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Sunny 22C<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<BR>I also saw the very clear "O"&nbsp; on=20=
Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice <BR>traces lower on 318/318.5 of a si=
gnal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<BR>could this have been PE1RRF=20=
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tting to be <BR>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and=20=
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Hi Brian, LF,

CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ ,WD2XES, G3AQC
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.3 : F4DTL     ( Nil )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( Nil )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( "Ho" graphical node good )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.0 : G3AQC    (strong signal )
136318.5 : DJ8WX   ( nil )
136318.8 : G3XDV    ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP   ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu











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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )

WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Henny,
     Thanks for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:34 PM
  Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0212.jpg


  capture xgj
  02-12 time:07:35z
  henny pa3cpm
  73s

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Hi John....same on this end again...lot's of signal but no decode.

Merry Xmas

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OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.



01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> tnx

> Graham ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

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> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> Hi Graham!

> Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> >  HI All ,

> > If anyone's about ,,,

> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20

> > you

> > can 'see' it

> > Reports welcome

> > Tnx

> > Graham

> > G0NBD / IO83LK

> --

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Humpty Dumpty: When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean -=20
neither more nor less.
Alice: The question is, whether you can make words mean so many different=20
things.

Humpty Dumpty: The question is: which is to be master - that's all.





> Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
> Otherwise the information is misleading
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
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>
>> tu Jean-Pierre
>> henny pa3cpm
>> gl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
>>
>>
>> Hello Henny and all ,
>>
>> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
>> the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
>> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
>> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
>> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> > *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
>> > **
>> > *enny pa3cpm*
>> > *73s*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date:
> 21/12/2007 13:17
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 12/22/2007 14:02
>
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nice capture wd2xgj
time:04:30z
henny pa3cpm
merry xmas
73s

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice capture wd2xgj</FONT></STRONG>=
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Hi all,

just testing with Spectrum Lab and longtime field strength observing. 
Setting up Noise, DI2BO, OK0EMW, DI2AG and DI2AM.
I export the field strength numbers into a  "tab seperated" csv file and 
upload this to my Local Linux server. On the Linux server i used
php software to generate a JPEG Picture to show the field strength in 
the last 12 / 24h or what ever looks nice picture.
Finaly this picture will upload every day to my WEB site. I still need 
to calibrate the dbuV .

Here a picture with Spectrum lab listening to DI2BO, OK0EMW, DI2AG and 
DI2AM.
http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/505Khz_dbuV.JPG

Did anyone else experiment with Spectrum Lab?


73 Karl-Heinz
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Hi Gary & LF!



Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

QRSS10.



Did not copy your signal, Gary.

Your TX is off now?



08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi LF,

> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> Reports welcome.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Henny, Jean-Pierre,

 Thank you for the reports and captures of my brief transmission!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Hello Joe  ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Joyeux No=EBl !

73 J-P f1afj















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-HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?



After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone who 
can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of a 
inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section



I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !



It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling the 
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137kHz: Weak copy of F4DTL 20:00-21:00. Very strong signal from UA4WPF
the whole night. Good peaks of XGJ, but there was a lot of fading
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500kHz: Copied 3 lines of the WE2XGR/3 JT2 signal at 01:46, 01:48 and
02:54. No other signals readable from across the pond. Traces of CW
signals were visible on 507.3khz and on 506.5kHz.

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Hello, Marco

Thanks for the report and screenshot. My ERP is about 50 mW, and the antenna
is a 20m long "tee" with a double top wire at 5 metres high.

73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Scholz, Marco
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Subject: LF: RE: [500] KHz G3WCB QRV


Hello Dave,
I just listen to your signal the last 30min. (23:30-00:00) and had a
copy of your call -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/g3wcb_503_85_141207.JPG
Receiver here only Yaesu FT-857 and PA0DRT Miniwhip.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

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Subject: LF: [500] KHz G3WCB QRV

Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM
CW i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM








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HI Manuel
   
  There is more of Spain West of the zero meridian than East of it. So why, tell me, is your country on european time? Or is it some diabolical EU Law? Here it would mean I would have to drive to work in the pitch dark for more weeks of the year on EU time. I note that your neighbour Portugal, further West of UK and Spain,  has UTC during the winter also which is understandable.
   
  Any way what ever the reasons you, like me, will be listening to SAQ's Xmas message :-)
   
  Lars/SM6NM does a great job at Grimton.
   
  Vy 73 Petefmt
  
Manuel Santos Greve <manuel.santosgreve@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental time, Please?
   
  Manuel Santos EA4BVZ

 
  2007/12/14, Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:   

        m0fmt@beeb.net                 Date :   Wed 5 Dec 15:40:47 GMT 2007          From :   Lars Kĺlland <sm6nm@telia.com>    Add To Address Book           Subject :   Correction SAQ Christmas transmission.           To :   "Lars Kalland" <lars.kalland@telia.com>                      Previous     Next     Printer Friendly Version                                             [input]   Put in Folder... Inbox Draft Sent Trash 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8                    
  CORRECTION
   
   
  I did it again!!!!!!
   
   
  Not for the first time, and possible not for the last, I made a misstake in calculating Swedish time into UTC time for the Christmas Eve transmission.
   
  The correct time should be: 08.00 UTC and 08:15 UTC.
   
  I am terrible sorry!
   
   
  Lars/SM6NM
   
   
    
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<div>HI Manuel</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>There is more of Spain West&nbsp;of the zero&nbsp;meridian than&nbsp;East of it. So why, tell me, is your country on european time? Or is it some diabolical EU Law? Here it would mean I would have to drive to work in the pitch dark for more weeks of the year on EU time. I note that your neighbour Portugal,&nbsp;further West of UK and Spain, &nbsp;has UTC during the winter also which is understandable.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Any way what ever the reasons you, like me, will be listening to SAQ's Xmas message :-)</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Lars/SM6NM does a great job at Grimton.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Vy 73 Petefmt</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Manuel Santos Greve &lt;manuel.santosgreve@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV>Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental&nbsp;time, Please?</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> 
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WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(20) on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to about 
0330 UTC. Note that this is the "double speed" mode of WOLF, and 
requires DL4YHF's WOLF GUI program, available at:
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html

I suggest setting the number of frames for decoding to 16, as it is 
unlikely that there will be a big buildup of copy over long periods at 
this frequency. The output text will also have some useful data for 
analyzing propagation, so I'd appreciate a copy, either direct or on one 
of the mail lists.

This is a long-haul mode and conditions are good, so reception in EU 
should be possible. All reports are welcome.

John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3


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Hi Ken then you may need either a transformer or a switching stage that will
drive move that 6 to 8 volts on to the gate and handle the high gate
capacitance. There is not much point I believe in trying to run in Class C
with this kind of device, It is a lot easier to go right to Class D/E, they
are not very linear devices. You may get nearer to Class C type operation
with a audio power FET but these are much more expensive. The 530 is
intended to be used as a switch.

The step up output circuit does work I have used one of these on a PA stage.
It does need tuning which is a little difficult (high C) but does avoid a
transformer. You do also need to be careful about the coils. I uses low
permiability iron dust or air cored. Ferrite cores are too lossy in this
application (filters and tuned circuits).

Good Luck with it
Cheeers de Alan G3NYK


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Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply, I am trying to run it in pseudo class C,
driving it from a xtal controlled osc, 10mW output into a buffer/driver amp.

 73 Ken M0KHW

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Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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Subject: LF: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L â C â L  output network the design parameters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =
12, giving, L1  38ÂľH, C1 3.7nF, L2  84ÂľH, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50ÎŠ) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV








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Warren,

> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
> products due to the mixing of strong signals!

Yes, that's an old story here when you and Jay are in the 137.78 
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Hi all

Now RU9CUA start qrss30 137778.4,  in qrss3 "T-M"
Last night Andy EW6GB start testing new ant. I see ew6gb on137775.5
qrss10 at 18:25 

Dmitry



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Sorry doing house wiring, just re-established.  Brian CT1DRP



At 14:48 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Brian, LF,
>
>CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>




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Hallo Finbar and ALL!
I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
configuration of my program for QRSS3.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code' an
array ?


> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I
> see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae
is
> it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could
> be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you
> could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if
i
> could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth
> system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'
an
> array ?
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> > attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> > adapted for 500kHz.
> > Maybe that will be of some help.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
> >
> > Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> >
> >> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> >> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> >> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet
!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> >> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> >> parallel 2 wire section ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tnx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> G0NBD
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks Brian,

I thought may have been a problem you were not aware of !!

I was checking to see if my RTTY test transmission was showing there.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sorry doing house wiring, just re-established.  Brian CT1DRP
> 
> 
> 
> At 14:48 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Brian, LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
> 
> 
> 
>



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Hello the list,

 Well the celebration may  be a bit premature.  Bob and Rudy had several 
'partial' QSOs but were not able to complete the exchange due to QSB. Maybe 
tomorrow night.

73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Overland 500kHz DX Record WD2XSH/20 - WE2XGR/6


> Rudy N6LF(WD2XSH/20) in Cottage Grove Oregon and Bob W2ZM (WE2XGR/6)in 
> Penn Yan NY worked tonite 03:00 UTC on 1 December for an Overland record 
> of 3681.83 km (2287.886 miles)!
>
> Congrats to Bob & Rudy!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/ WE2XGR/1
>
> 



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Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.

My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.

If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
be grateful to learn.

For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/

With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP

At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>after rebuilding system at new location.
>
>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
>Reports welcome.
>
>Brian CT1DRP
>




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Hello LF ,

Good copy of :
WD2XGJ (short try in QRSS60)
WD2XES (short test in graphical mode)

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu



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Hello ,

At 22:00utc , I switched my antenna in direction of the USA (T/A=20
grabber) , but your signal is still very good, although it is not any=20
more in your direction ! my setup are at :=20
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Setup/Setup.htm

Good night Jean-Pierre f1afj


Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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137kHz: Copied RA3YO in DFCW10 on 137.778 kHz and G3WCB in QRSS3 on
137.695kHz

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz in QRSS3. Later, during the
QSO with Gus SM6BHZ, Dave changed frequency to 505.3 kHz.

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GM All, LF,

Just a line to say thank you to the following operators for their feedback 
:-

For captures & reports-
Victor PA3FNY, Henny PA3CPM, Gus SM6BHZ, Lubos OK2BVG & Marco DD7PC.

Also for watching -
Roman RW3ADB.

I will mail here when next testing, thanks again.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 




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Hi JP,

Thanks for the report!
73
Joe

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> I doubt  more and more the possibility of receiving your beacon!
>
> The captures of night are at :
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Subject: Re: LF: -HELP-  MMANA-GAL   Antenna analyzer .... can anyone
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Graham,

attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when  
adapted for 500kHz.
Maybe that will be of some help.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>
>
>
> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>
>
>
> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>
>
>
> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> parallel 2 wire section ?
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated ,
>
>
>
> Tnx
>
>
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> G0NBD




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*
0.502
***Wires***
9
2.0,	0.0,	0.0,	0.0,	0.0,	14.0,	0.003,	-1
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1,	1
w1b,	0.0,	1.0
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1,	1
w1e1,	0,	255.0,	0.0,	0.0
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3000,	600,	1.01,	1
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no gary,not yet,

73s henny cpm...
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> Henny, LF,
>
> Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance 
> about 550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.
>
> Is the signal audible ??
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> strong signal now
> 18:48z
> henny cpm
> 73s.
>
> 



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Hartmut,

Thanks very much for the WOLF copy from last night. The results do not 
show the frequent fades so common on the shorter paths. Very interesting!

John Andrews, W1TAG




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137kHz: Copied F4DTL, RA3YO, RA9CUA, UA4WPF and WD2XGJ.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Copied WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz about 01:25-02:30. It seems the
opening towards the US was a bit late for WE2XGR/2. Nil last night.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello Henny and all ,

I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
no cannot be sure at 100% !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> **
> *enny pa3cpm*
> *73s*


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Hello all,=20

Good copy now of DI2AM, DI2AG and OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible in th=
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WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to 
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ge Mal.

tnx for report. yes i like cw, you know. i am sure we do it agn next time in=
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cw hi. but now looking for new one, may be from Russia hi.

best 73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE.
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> Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no=20
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> going at this speed. Try cw
> g3kev
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> I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
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> 73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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Spurred on by you two I have just revisited MMANA-GAL with the 
simulation of my 500kHz vertical - pretty similar to your top loaded 
designs but without any top loading. I have shown it resonates 
(approximately at the correct frequency) and my model (attached) 
shows how to add a loading coil (in my case at 1m height) and base 
fed with the source.

I have now found out that all NEC models do not use the ground 
characteristics in calculating impedance, they only use them for the 
radiation plots. Hence you will see that mine has a resistive 
impedance of 0.136 ohms which is just the radiation resistance. When 
you have 50-100 plus of earth losses this will of course add to the 
impedance and makes the use of the program for impedance matching and 
efficiency calculations effectively useless.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 28 Dec 2007 at 18:45, Graham wrote:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
> 
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout
> .. I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where
> on the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where
> a  element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to
>  it .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
> 
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section
> , if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there !
> the earth system would be the other half  hihi
> 
> Tnx
> 
> Graham ..

http://www.davesergeant.com


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Hi Jean-Pierre, LF,

many thanks for the report! After reworking the loading coil, this was my fi=
rst test on air since February... Currently I'm calling DFCW around 137.570=20=
kHz. This is in a 10 Hz wide gap in the DCF39 FSK sidebands, much clearer he=
re than the usual 137.7 range.

Southeast Asian Loran-C signals were only weak during the last couple of nig=
hts, despite quiet geomagnetic conditions.

Best wishes to all

Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DF6NM


> Hello  all on LF ,
> Last night i copy  :
> DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )
> WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>=20
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> --=20
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean-Pierre, LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>many thanks for the report!&nbsp;After rewo=
rking=20
the loading coil, this was&nbsp;my first&nbsp;test on air since=20
February...&nbsp;Currently I'm calling&nbsp;DFCW around 137.570 kHz.=20
This&nbsp;is in a 10 Hz wide gap&nbsp;in the DCF39 FSK sidebands, much=20
clearer&nbsp;here than the usual 137.7 range.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Southeast Asian Loran-C&nbsp;signals were o=
nly weak=20
during the last couple of nights,&nbsp;despite quiet geomagnetic=20
conditions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DF6NM in JN59NK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" &lt;</FONT><A=20=
  href=3D"mailto:jpm.f1afj@online.fr"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>jpm.f1af=
j@online.fr</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:17=20
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ ,=20
DF6NM</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt; Hello&nbsp; all on LF ,<BR>&gt; Last night i copy&n=
bsp; :<BR>&gt;=20
DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )<BR>&gt; WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlig=
ht=20
of Europe ! )<BR>&gt; The captures of night are with this URL :<BR>&gt;=20
</FONT><A href=3D"http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2=
>http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;=20
see grabber at :&nbsp; </FONT><A   href=3D"http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/G=
rabber.htm"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Gr=
abber.htm</FONT></A><BR><FONT   face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73 Jean-=
Pierre&nbsp; f1afj&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
JN06ht<BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt; Website : </FONT><A   href=3D"http://jpmere.onlin=
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Hi John, Jay & LF,

Just found the decoded text in a file called ALL.TXT, not sure if it gets 
there auto matically or due to me clicking buttons or other menu options.

Here is the important part of the session, looks like it peaked for me 
around 0230 - 0300utc.

023600  0  -33  3.6 -470 32
023700  5  -25  0.1 -470  7 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
023800  0  -33 -1.5 -508 23
023900  7  -23  0.1 -470  4 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024000  0  -31  4.6 -442 18 #
024100  8  -24  0.1 -470  2 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024200  0  -33  3.2 -475  9
024300  0  -28  0.1 -470  9 *
024400  0  -33  1.9 -464 35
024500  0  -33 -0.1 -494 14
024600  0  -33  2.0 -422 18
024700  6  -23  0.4 -470  2 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024800  0  -31  0.0 -470  9 *
024900  0  -33  0.2 -514 16
025000  0  -33  2.4 -429  5
025100  0  -33  3.9 -514  8
025200  0  -33 -0.8 -440  6
025300  0  -28  0.3 -468 25 *
025400  1  -27  0.3 -470  1 *
025500  0  -33  4.4 -481 21
025600  4  -24  0.3 -470  4 *      CQ WE2XGR/3               1   0
025700  0  -33  2.7 -435 19
025800  0  -32  0.1 -470  7 *
025900  2  -26  0.0 -470  6 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
030000  0  -33 -0.1 -446 28
030100  0  -28  0.0 -468  9 *
030200  0  -33  1.9 -470  7
030300  6  -25  0.0 -470  4 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
030400  0  -33  5.1 -497 42

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> XGR/2 on as of 0030. Currently at 100 watts but will step the power up 
> over the evening.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight
>
>
>> Hartmut,
>>
>> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another
>> schedule on CW.
>>
>> John A.
>>
>> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> >> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to
>> >> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for 
>> >> part
>> >> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every 
>> >> minute.
>> >> I've added a few tips to the instructions at
>> >> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
>> >
>> > first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
>> > waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Hartmut
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 




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Thank you, Victor, that was fast.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Victor van Kooten=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:22 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello Geri,

  just captured part of your callsign at 505,014 KHz, 15:20z

  73
  Victor
  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
    Verzonden: dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


    Hello YLs and OMs,,

    DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.=20=
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later=
 this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be swi=
tched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

    Looking forward to your reception report.=20

    Best 73

    Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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<DIV>Thank you, Victor, that was fast.</DIV>
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<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Hello Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>just captured part of your callsign=20=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>73</SPAN></DIV>
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    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens </B>Holger 'Geri',=20
    DK8KW<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14<BR><B>Aan:</B> <A=
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    LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015=20=
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    For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, l=
ater=20
    this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
    switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the
programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The 1/2-space
DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient for
field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier.

Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an "open
field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna,
which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the
effect of the site on antenna performance.  The /P location is near Newgate
Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and really
is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain
keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the pictures
of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago!

A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance
measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to be
close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss
resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5
ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as
my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly
identical.

Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna on
136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results by
the weekend.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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>
> Hallo Mike and All!
> I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
> signal is growing stronger.
>
> 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>



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On Monday 24 December 2007 16:04, G0MRF@aol.com wrote:
> Seasons greetings all.
>
> Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF  frequencies?
>
> Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity
> where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a 
> satellite. However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna. 
> I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.
>
> Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a
> decision?
>

I'm using an e-field antenna in HF, it's about 6 - 10 dB lossy versus an 1/2 
wave dipole. The probe is a beer can.

In the earth environment the emf developed at the e-field probe is referenced 
to the ground potential.

In open space the spacecraft body is the reference potential but you should 
consider the [(delta voltage) over (delta space)] as function of the electric 
field strength .

I think that the spacecraft to e-field_probe distance is very little, so the 
emf is also little.  May be that a "long tail" connected to space craft body 
may help.

Some references:
(1) Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 (search WEB with 
GOOGLE)
(2) SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "VAMP 9243 9 kHz - 30 MHz Low noise active 
monopole antenna", http://www.schwarzbeck.de/Datenblatt/m9243.pdf
(3) SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas 
(9kHz - 30 MHz)" (search WEB with GOOGLE)

73 de Claudio, ik2pii

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John,

> WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(20) on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to about 
> 0330 UTC. 

thanks for the "gudnite" greetings! Continious copy of the WOLF20 
transmission 00:00-03:30. Will upload the results to my website later 
the day when I'm back home from work.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for the try, I thought it was Chris !! I did see a weak RTTY trace on 
SpecLab.

Your signal was way down in noise & no chance of any copy.

What software do you use ?? I am trying to see if RTTY 23 Hz shift at 22 bd 
speed will do any better on this band, MMTTY will do that mode.

I mailed Sergei (UA9OV) who wrote the TrueTTY I use to impliment 22 bd on 
next upgrade & he as much as said yes !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Hi Gary -
>
>  Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I 
> could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable 
> on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?
>
>  Brian (G3YKB)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Andy,

Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz, is=20
fully horizontal?

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX




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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> GB3SSS from Poldhu, Cornwall, is back again for a few months.  Only
> this time it is transmitting on 3597.0kHz, for 80m Transatlantic
> propagation tests over the winter months.
>
> Transmissions are every 15 minutes, starting on the 00/15/30/45 minute
> interval and use the same format as the 1.96MHz beacon last year, ie
> callsign followed by two sets of 6dB power steps, then a PSK31 message
> starting at the 30 second boundary.
>
> The 5MHz beacon monitoring software available from :
>
> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacon%20monitoring.htm
>
> can be used to automatically log this beacon, which appears on the red
> trace as if it were GB3RAL.
>
> --=20
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>
>
>
> --=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date:=20
> 01/12/2007 12:05
>
>=20


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Hi All,

Running a  data beacon using , multipsk in olivia mode , previous test with 
this mode gave  quite  good print .

OLIVIA        250  HZ     8 TONES
CENT FREQ    503.00KHz
MODE -USB-

(Tx set ,  501.00 usb ,   tone freq   2 Khz )

>> "8-250": "Slow" 8 tones, bandwidth=250 Hz, speed=31.25 bauds, 14.6 wpm, 
>> lowest S/N=-14 dB,<<


If it print's let me know !

Tnx

Graham

G0NBD
Io83lk





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Thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, and Hartmut foir the reports and captures of W=
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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In a message dated 26/12/2007 00:44:04 GMT Standard Time, =20
jpradoes@telefonica.net writes:

David,
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Audible signal here.
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73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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Wonderful !    First reception in EA.   Thank you  Jose.  ERP  apx 55mW
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Distance 1080 km
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David



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Solid copy SAQ this morning also in JN06HT ( see pictures )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj



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reflector seems a bit slow this evening...

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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

I doubt  more and more the possibility of receiving your beacon!

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hi Ed

Not strong here

Dmitry

> Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no point
> going at this speed. Try cw
> g3ke




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ok dave,
tu for the contact
mxmas ,

henny pa3cpm
73s
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi, Henny.
>
> Sorry I missed your call at 1400z. I was messing around with the antenna 
> and
> TX, and I couldn't reply! We have had heavy icing all day, and it has 
> upset
> the antenna tuning. You were "O" copy on my 1,2m RX loop.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
> 



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Lubos
Are u not hearing my cw onn 502.5 khz de Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:38 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more


  Unbelievably strong signal now!

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG



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Can see a trace , actually a  near constant trace in io83lk , few more watts 
and looks like could of had a psk31 qso .. qsb cycle 3 mins ... any idea 
where the /p location is ?

Graham ..

G0NBD

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> Been receiving M0BMU/P for past 30 mins at 559 sending series dashes
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IS this you Brian?
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Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
description will
appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
reports
and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next few 
days.  For anyone interested
the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps disciplined 
5MHz frequency standard
(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.

With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP

At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>
>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>
>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>be grateful to learn.
>
>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>
>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>
>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>
>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>
>>Reports welcome.
>>
>>Brian CT1DRP
>
>




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er staan nog 5 afstemc s op je te wachten,nieuw in de doos,3 keer 500 pf.

mvgr.henny cpm.

3euro per stuk................


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Good aural copy Gary,congrats!

73
Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gary - G4WGT
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2007 19:12
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Henny, LF,

Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance about
550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.

Is the signal audible ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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strong signal now
18:48z
henny cpm
73s.







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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the comments...

K2ORS wrote:

> Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field
> strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are
indeed
> very close.

I have just re-calculated the ERP based on values of Rrad obtained using a
NEC-based antenna simulator (MMANA-GAL). This should give a more accurate
value of Rrad than the simple formulas based on capacitance, because a more
complicated geometry can be modelled, and the interaction of the fields of
the horizontal and vertical parts of the antenna will be accounted for. This
resulted in slightly higher values of Rrad, and slightly higher expected
ERP. This gave even better agreement between calculated and measured ERP at
the open-field site - at 136k the measured ERP is now +0.3dB on the
calculate value, and at 503k it is -0.1dB. This is probably well within the
likely measurement uncertainties.

G3NYK wrote:

> I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and
the
> environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
> capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all
of
> the distributed Rrad.

I think this ties up with the "tree current" experiment I did some months
back - it was clear then that, especially on 136k, a substantial proportion
of the antenna current was returning to ground through the trees near the
antenna. In the far field, the total radiation would be a function of the
superposition of the currents flowing "up" the antenna and "down" the
trees - the bigger the trees, and the more current flowing in them, the more
they would tend to cancel the radiation from the antenna. The measurements
of the "tree current" were very rough, but at 500kHz it appeared that the
currents were a smaller fraction of the antenna current, which would tie up
with the smaller observed reduction in Rrad at 500kHz.

G3YMC wrote:

> What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in
> the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the
> open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics
> rather than solely due to the surrounding trees.

The ground was probably as similar as it is possible to be at two separate
locations - the open field site was only about 4km from my home QTH, and
geographically part of the same landscape. The soil in both places is a
heavy clay that is waterlogged at this time of year. If anything, the ground
was wetter at the /P location, because my QTH is on a slope and relatively
well drained, but I generally find that wetter conditions lead to higher
loss resistance. It would certainly be interesting to see how the type of
ground afffects loss resistance, but it would probably be quite hard to find
a suitable selection of sites.

G3LDO wrote:

> At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my
> garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet.

At my QTH, over the period I have been making antenna measurements, the
antenna has stayed basically the same, but the surrounding trees have grown
quite a bit larger. During this time, the apparent Rrad has decreased to
about half of its initial value, and Rloss has increased by around 50%.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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On 5 Dec 2007 at 17:24, g3kev wrote:

> Jack/ve3zz

Jack's callsign is VE1ZZ.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello all,

After a long delay finally the LX/PA6Z QSL's are ready, and will be mailed/s=
end by the buro tomorrow.

Also all QSL's for 136kHz QSO's with PA4VHF will be send via the buro.
=20

Now I'am very busy with the preparations for my QTH move beginning 2008.
So, for at least the next half year no activties from my side.
Hope to set up a bigger LF-antenna at new QTH

73

Dick, PA4VHF

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After a long delay finally the LX/PA6Z QSL'=
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ready, and will be mailed/send by the buro tomorrow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also all QSL's for 136kHz QSO's with PA4VHF=
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send via the buro.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I'am very busy with the preparations fo=
r my QTH=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, for at least the next half year no acti=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope to set up a bigger LF-antenna at new=20
QTH</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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gm LF.

good cpy qrss60 transm. of UA4WPF yesterday.
captured at 2155utc.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gm LF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good cpy qrss60 transm. of UA4WPF=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>captured at 2155utc.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Uwe ,

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
> pulling the
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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: 500 KHz G3XIZ QRS
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Hi Chris, LF,

Your QRS signal strongly visible tonight & audible with 100 Hz filter.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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I know that some people on the list have been looking for a selective level 
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Wandel and Goltermann Wave analyser SPM60 6kHz to 19MHz

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OK Mal,=20

Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured=20=
here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied on th=
e band.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6


  Jose
  Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for a=
n improvement.
  73 de Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jose Manuel=20
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    Hi all,

    Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as w=
ell. The=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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40=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6</DI=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost in Q=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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t">Jose=20
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Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply, I am trying to run it in pseudo class C, driv=
ing it from a xtal controlled osc, 10mW output into a buffer/driver amp.

 73 Ken M0KHW

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
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Subject: LF: Re: IRF530N in 500kHz PA

Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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From: "Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: LF: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design para=
meters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q=20=
=3D
12, giving, L1  38=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2  84=C2=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF f=
ixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed=20=
from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV





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Hello LF ,

I must leave this evening , I do not know when I will return !
I start the =93grabber=94 . The noise is very high this evening
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Hello Brian and LF ,
This morning the sun is raised , the signal is very good !
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Henny.
You would need a lot of imagination to identify that signal!!!!!!!!!
g3kev

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  capture  vo1na??=20
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  antenne dx-10
  rec:rohde&schwarz ek891
  henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
  73s joe.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would need a lot of imagination to iden=
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Hello group
Same message of Ed, strong copy from RA3YO last night in DFCW mode.
 
 
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: 10m vertical with 7 mH  loading coil



   

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Hello Jean-Pierre,
   
    Thank you for the report!

73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ (the watchman of the night!)


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello  all on LF ,
> 
> Last night i copy  :
> 
> DL2HRE
> CT1DRP
> F6BIR ( in test)
> 
> WD2XGJ
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> -- 
> Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 



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Tnx Mal, maybe Gus could not get his temporary permit renewed.

Vy 73 Warren K2ORS

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> Warren
> Not hrd/seen  for a while on 505 khz.
> Just checked and nil hrd/seen
> Mal/G3KEV
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Hello the list,
>>
>>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
> supposed
>> to expire on November 30.
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
>>
>


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Mal,

> Hartmut.
> Pse give the qrg of 500 khz stns.
> g3kev
all captures on my website are showing time and QRG.

Here for you again:

WD2XSH/17 505.260 kHz CW copy between the QRSS3 signal about 23:55.

WE2XGR/2  506.5 kHz 00:25

WE2XGR/6  507.3 kHz around 01:00

73
Hartmut
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John,

  Being only 25 miles away, I hear your WSJT signal FB but as far as decode 
I get
NADA
NUNCA
NIETS
RIEN
NICHTS
??????
NIENTE
??????

or in English:
NOTHING!

  I set WSJT to JT-2 and receive, there seems to be a Waterfall window 
(SpecJT) but it is completely blank!
There does not appear to be an input mixer or setup for the audio in this 
program.

I did try SPECTRAN which does seem to process and display the audio 
waterfall properly, although sometimes SPECTRAN will hang in VISTA and 
require the Task Manager to kill it.





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Thanks to Gary and Hartmut for the reports last night. I have pointed Joe 
> Taylor to the .wav files that Hartmut recorded, as he was interested in 
> them.
>
> WD2XES will run JT2 on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 2130 until 0000 UTC, 
> and then move up to 137.779 for more conventional operation.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 



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Hello Lubos
Pse work xband 3533 khz for a qso and tnx the report.
73 de Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:49 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] G3KEV on 502500


  Hallo LFers!

  I just heard 339 G3KEV on 502.500 in normal cw QSO. Conditions seams be ve=
ry good! I have never heard G station at 16:30UT.

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Jim

Thanks for the very informative investigation.

So...if you make accurate FS measurements and accurately characterise your antenna system (and
document it for the authorities!) can one can just add more coal to the fire to achieve the
allowable ERP? Or do the NOVs (for 500 kHz) or your regular license (for 137 kHz)  specify a maximum
transmitter power as well?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>



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Brian,

your traces are just readable in Nuernberg (JN59NK), fieldstrength about 0.3 uV/m at 21:50.

All the best of luck
Markus, DF6NM 



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Hello Joe  ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello Warren ,
Ok ! your signal are visible now ! no problem .
Happy Christmas to you

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


K2ORS a =E9crit :
> WD2XGJ will be running low power (250 watts out) for the next few days.
>
> Happy Christmas!
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
>
>
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John,

   Yes, but I have not seen it before at this distance!
73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Warren,
> 
>> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
>> products due to the mixing of strong signals!
> 
> Yes, that's an old story here when you and Jay are in the 137.78 
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> John A.
> 
>


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.. at this moment, very nice audible copy on ~501.3 kHz, at DK4U (JO42FD).

Using the 200 meter "long" wire temporarily, and the IC706 (no converter).

Looking for crossband activity now; 40 meters preferred.

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Hi All ..

Thanks for reports from last night test .. I made a change to  the capacity 
top of the ae , which
looked to  improve 500 but  lost 4/5 s points on 1.8 and 3.5 mhz ..the ae is 
a 35 ft vertical with loading coil at top and a 30 ft , 2 wire capacity 
section ,in L configuration ....

last night capacity top was  3 wires   , center  wire fed, with outers 
acting as anti phase elements  ... now reduced to  2 , end fed


Running  cw at 0.2 wpm   503.2

testing change to ae , any reports welocme,

tnx

Graham .

G0NBD




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Hallo Finbar and all!
There are good conditions on 500kHz this night - see on the snapshot.
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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To All from PA0SE
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on=20
17.2kHz. I used a Wandel & Goltermann SLM type=20
SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz=20
with 26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.

Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square=20
loop of 1 x 1 m the signal was sufficiently over=20
the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt (25Hz I.F. bandwidth).

 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6 dB=
=B5V).
On June 30, 2002  I measured 482 microvolt/metre=20
(53.6 dB=B5V) So the measurements are rather consistent.

This makes it possible to do some speculation as=20
to the power radiated by SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP).

The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N,=20
12.24E. Using a computer program written by=20
Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My=20
own locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of 735k=
m.

We can now enter these data into the graphs of=20
CCIR Recommendation 368-7 for ground-wave propagation. This results in:

Type of ground  dielectric constant    conductivity (mS/m)  EMRP

Perfect=20
ground          -=20
        -                            1.4kW

Land                           40=20
                     30                          3.0kW

Land                           22=20
                       3                          3.7kW

Medium=20
dry               15=20
          1                         4.7kW
ground

Dry=20
ground                  7=20
               0.3                      5.9kW
ground

If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW=20
then with an alternator output of 200kW the=20
efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D 2%.

This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at=20
such a low frequency it is  not too bad I think.

The aerial system consists of six vertical=20
radiators of 127 m high.  They are fed in phase=20
at the top and each radiator has its own loading=20
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by=20
Alexanderson) .  The total horizontal length is=20
2200 m, which is only 0.13 wavelength.  So the=20
system may have been designed to give some gain=20
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been achieved.

It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton=20
would measure the field strength outside the near=20
field area, for instance  at 5 wavelength distance, or 87km.
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be=20
assumed for calculating the EMRP (1kw produces=20
300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear way with distance).

73, Dick, PA0SE =20

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<b>Correction<br><br>
To All from PA0SE<br>
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on 17.2kHz. I used a Wandel &amp;
Goltermann SLM type SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz with
26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.<br><br>
Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square loop of 1 x 1 m the
signal was sufficiently over the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt
(25Hz I.F. bandwidth).<br><br>
 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6
dB=B5V).<br>
On June 30, 2002&nbsp; I measured 482 microvolt/metre (53.6
<font color=3D"#FF0000">dB=B5V</font>) So the measurements are rather
consistent.<br><br>
This makes it possible to do some speculation as to the power radiated by
SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP). <br><br>
The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N, 12.24E. Using a computer
program written by Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My own
locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of
735km.<br><br>
We can now enter these data into the graphs of CCIR Recommendation 368-7
for ground-wave propagation. This results in:<br><br>
<u>Type of ground</u>&nbsp; <u>dielectric constant </u>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<u>conductivity (mS/m)</u>&nbsp; <u>EMRP<br><br>
</u>Perfect ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
1.4kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
40&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.0kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.7kW<br><br>
Medium
dry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4.7kW<br>
ground<br><br>
Dry
ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5.9kW<br>
ground<br><br>
If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW then with an alternator
output of 200kW the efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D
2%.<br><br>
This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at such a low frequency it
is&nbsp; not too bad I think.<br><br>
The aerial system consists of six vertical radiators of 127 m high.&nbsp;
They are fed in phase at the top and each radiator has its own loading
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by Alexanderson) .&nbsp;
The total horizontal length is 2200 m, which is only 0.13
wavelength.&nbsp; So the system may have been designed to give some gain
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been
achieved.<br><br>
It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton would measure the field
strength outside the near field area, for instance&nbsp; at 5 wavelength
distance, or 87km. <br>
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be assumed for calculating
the EMRP (1kw produces 300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear
way with distance).&nbsp; <br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE </b></body>
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Hello Brian,

Nice to see you're back on LF (also TX-wise) ! 
Hope to work you again some day on LF, if winter conds permit.
At the moment, no visible signal at my home QTH. But I will look for you 
as soon as the nordic activity contest on VHF has finished (this evening).

73,
  Wolf   DL4YHF / DK4U / DF0WD .

Brian Rogerson schrieb:
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
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Hi J-P,

Your traces were very exciting.  There appears to be a signal at 0100
and a fairly clear N at just after 0115.  These are likely my signals
although I cannot identify them conclusivy.  This is encouraging.
Many thanks JP!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Perhaps is this VO1NA ( see picture )
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
>
> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hi all mf dxers.
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xdr/6 in and out of qsb at present and nil now from xdr/2
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Hello Dave and the group,

Thanks for the screenshot dave. Nice to know the old TX still works as 
it should (and doesn't cause too much unwanted sidebands in this 
"linear" mode). You caught the final part of my transmission from DK4U, 
before I qsy'ed to VHF.
Nice conditions there; worked half a dozen of OH-stations via 
troposcatter, which is very unusual for this part of EU.

Seasons greetings to all,

Wolf DL4YHF .

Dave G3WCB schrieb:
> Dear Wolf, LF
>
> Christmas Greetings "O" copy in Hell at 1245utc. I was visiting relatives
> all day, so I missed the action :-((
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>   



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Hi Markus!

Thank you for qood news
Now transmitting on 136320.8 dfcw90

73
Dmitry

> Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
> 
> it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.
> 
> Regards and seasons greetings to all
> 
> Markus, DF6NM



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Gm Jean Pierre, Chris, LF

i say "CQ F6BIR K"
good cpy of this station here in jo51tq, but not seen full call, because of 
being in transmission mode on 137.7766KHz this time.

73 Ed DL2HRE
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Dear OM,

> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?


73,
Chris G4OKW




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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
traces ?  + spurious

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Now its DX time of year acty is vy low, not even this reflector is exciting.
I suppose its back to hf for excitement, even the satellite business has
gone.
Amateur radio could be on the way out.
Mobile phones, internet skipe are echolink are IN
FOR SALE
watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK
G3KEV


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Mal,

   You can always see the activity by looking at the Ohio grabber:

http://ne-ohio-grabber.kn8azn.com/NE_Ohio_Grabber.html


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jose Manuel 
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> 
> 
>   OK Mal, 
> 
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured 
> here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the 
> band.
> 
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an 
> improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
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>       Hi all,
> 
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
> 
> 
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
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From:    "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To:    <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject:    LF: Re: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6
Date:    Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:05:34 +0000
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
callsign.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at present=20=
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500</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@telefonica.net"=
>Jose=20
  Manuel</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as=
 well.=20
  The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal fro=
m=20
  USA I=B4ve ever copied on the band.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost in=
 QSB.=20
    Will listen for a while for an improvement.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net         href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@tel=
efonica.net">Jose Manuel</A> </DIV>
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group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above=
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Attached a screenshot of Gary's Signal at 10.43pm GMT.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC=20

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Scholz, Marco
[CMB-IT]
Sent: 09 December 2007 00:25
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Subject: AW: LF: 500 DFCW

Hello Gary,
I monitored your DFCW signal the last 2 hours. I have still some local
QRM, but I had a good copy of your signal with some QSB. RX: FT857 and
Miniwhip. The 1st time I received a signal from your stattion.
A snapshot I send tomorrow.

good night
Marco
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To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sat Dec 08 16:31:00 2007
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Hi LF,

Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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And in Massachusetts (about 110 km from Jay), there were two signal 
peaks, one around 0330Z when I started the captures, and another in the 
0500-0600Z range. A shot from 0553Z is attached.

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One additional note...if you close the program and restart it you'll have to double click on the
waterfall again. Apparently the program does not remember the previous run settings...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hello Marco & LF

It sure looks like GI4DPE and at the moment he is repeatedly sending callsig=
n +
10s dahes on approximately 501.3kHz. I can copy the signals Q5 by ear here i=
n
the better part of the QSB.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

Quoting "Scholz, Marco" <marco.scholz@citi.com>:

>
>
> Direct: +49 69 1366 1214
> Mobile: +49 171 866 1214
> Fax: +49 69 1366 1536
> mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dd7pc@email.de <dd7pc@email.de>
> To: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]
> Sent: Mon Dec 17 21:20:18 2007
> Subject: GI4DPE?
>
>  <<gi4dpe_171207.JPG>>
> Hello,
>
> i receiving around 501.38 KHz long dashes. Not sure maybe its the beacon o=
f
> Finbar GI4DPE?
>
> Please see attached file.
>
> thanks
>
> vy73
>
> Marco
>
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
>
>
>
>
>   <https://img.web.de/ivw/CP/freemail/content/?ts=3D1197926408-797677>
>
>




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Hello Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> I noted that from 02:30-03:00 when I put a carrier on that John's=20
> signal appeared upside down (mirror image) at 137.780-137.7806,
> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation=20
> products due to the mixing of strong signals!
Yes I saw it well , I will try to reproduce the phenomenon with two=20
generators in order to know which was the level of your signals . I use=20
the AGC of Spectrum Lab , and it is difficult to see the true level !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Good Morning Uwe,

i was listening this morning ~9:20h - 10:07h  to your beacon at 
136.319khz. Your signal was audiable and about 15db - 20db over qrm.

QTH: JO31HS
Ant: Aktiv antenna OP27, 14m High
Receiver. Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Spectrum Lab

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


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Hello Marco,

thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, running 10=
 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak signal.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Scholz, Marco=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Cc: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Good morning Geri,
  copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but unfortunately=
 to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again tonight.

  http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
  http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03

  Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip

  vy73
  Marco
  DD7PC

  JN49ax



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  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
  Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello YLs and OMs,,

  DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. Fo=
r the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later t=
his year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be switc=
hed on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

  Looking forward to your reception report.=20

  Best 73

  Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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<DIV>Hello Marco,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, runni=
ng=20
10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak=20
signal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
olz,=20
  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de     hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:=
15=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is=
 back=20
  on the air</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Good morning=20
  Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>copied traces=
 of your=20
  signal many times over last night, but unfortunately to weak for a full co=
py=20
  of your call sign. I try again tonight.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A     href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_01</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A     href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_03</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yae=
su FT-857D=20
  &amp; PA0RDT MiniWhip</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></=
DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>DD7PC</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN     class=3D251191110-16122007>JN49ax</S=
PAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
  <HR tabIndex=3D-1>
  <FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Ge=
ri',=20
  DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 January 2002 03:14<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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k on=20
  the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
z.=20
  For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, lat=
er=20
  this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
  switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=20
In a message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time, =20
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz writes:

Hello  Lubos.=20
Thank you for the  report, I have switched the beacon off this morning so as=
=20
not to cause QRM to  my 'LF neighbours' here in London.

I will switch on again  tonight from 22.00. to 09.00 UTC
As I am using a class D  transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part of=
=20
the QRP beacon sequence  now appears as plain carrier.

Regards
=20
David



Hallo David and  LFers!=20
I have seen very poor  signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters =E2=
=80=9EMRF=E2=80=9C=20
. But it is not good  time for reception signals from UK now. I am going to=20
try this evening from  21:00UT, it will be more better time for  receiving.=20=
I=20
hope, beacon will be in  operation with 50mW.=20
GL  !=20
Lubos, OK2BVG,  JN88KS=20





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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT     style=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN     st=
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or=20
  signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters =E2=80=9EMRF=E2=80=9C . Bu=
t it is not good=20
  time for reception signals from UK now. I am going to try this evening fro=
m=20
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Ga Dave, LF.

i say our best QSO, tu have a nice X-MAS.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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capture  vo1na??=20
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Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
memory keyer to include "HYVAA JOULA"  
Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
My very best wishes to you.

73

Mike GW4HXO
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Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Thanks Dave.
> Traces of EW6GB tonight QRSS3 on 137,705. (T copy, the letters G and B
> visible. See screenshot).
Just upgraded PA and ground.
Will active soon again.
73! M-xmas Andrej EW6GB


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Lubos,

If I am reading the screen shot correctly, it is M0BMU.

John Andrews, W1TAG

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> I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?



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GM LF,

Thanks again to those who sent reports & captures from last nights 
transmissions :-

Victor, Henny, Gus & Lubos.

Also thanks to those who run the grabbers :-

Dave, John & Brian.

Keep up the good work, your reports are really welcome & do help with the 
tests.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Subject: LF: [500] G4WGT DFCW


Hallo Gary and LF!
I can see your DFCW signal on 503.600kHz. Conditions are not as good as
yestreen. There is more long and deep QSB.
The weather is bad, it´s raining, temp 2°C only.

73!
Lubos, OK2BVG

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LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Hello group,

today i was in QSO with AA1A on 505 kHz, 5760 KM.

http://500kc.com/W0RPK_report.htm

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Hello Brian,
so early i have already a nice copy of your signal ->
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Today i use a PA0DRT MiniWhip antenna and in front of my receiver FT857
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copied just a trace without the preamp).
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vy73
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

I think that is the correct locator - will check later

Hopefully, the antenna won't have a chance to dry out and need re-tuning!

The mains power is via about 130m of cable to the nearest building.

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Ok Jim,

Looks like the /P qth  is at  IO91WR ?, or very close , Intresting signal
last night as the very little qsb , fine on the rain, well at least the
ground was constantly damp .. I find, if i have a shower of rain, i have to
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If your going to  run on 137 assume you are mains powerd ?

Graham .





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Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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From: "Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: LF: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L â C â L  output network the design parameters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =
12, giving, L1  38ÂľH, C1 3.7nF, L2  84ÂľH, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50ÎŠ) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV





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Hi all.

First everybody have a nice christmas evening.

I relocated my transmitter to a new QTH, with a better vieuw to the east.
This is my first test and the tx is not verry stable, and the ERP is verry lo.
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Reports are welcome.

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Screen shot of S57A (lower trace) being called by F6BWO (upper trace) at
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now at 0020 peaking 539 good signal and suitable for qso but diving into qso
vy rapidly , hardly long enough out of qsb for a qso.
73 mal/g3kev

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> > At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> > Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
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Chris.
I am still about but checking the dx on 160. Not a lot doing on 500 or 136,=20=
nor is there much on the reflector, it has gone from 20 or more msgs daily t=
o two or three.
Merry Xmas cul de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris Osborn=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:26 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: lf/mf


  Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.

  Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get r=
eports on his new TX.
  I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.

  I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I t=
ry RTTY.
  Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.

  I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.

  There's a new man: G0BBL,  Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so l=
isten for him.
  Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.

  Chris G3XIZ

  mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
    All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
    Mal/G3KEV






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am still about but checking the dx on 160=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.<BR><BR>Poor old=20=
Doug=20
  G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his=20=
new=20
  TX.<BR>I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat=20
  to.<BR><BR>I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies=20=
with=20
  CW I try RTTY.<BR>Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a=20
  contact.<BR><BR>I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for=20
  ages.<BR><BR>There's a new man: G0BBL,&nbsp; Jan in Trowbridge who's just=20
  become active so listen for him.<BR>Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finish=
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  his TX so should be on soon.<BR><BR>Chris G3XIZ<BR><BR><B><I>mal=20
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Lf,

Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc this
evening. Screenshot attached.

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Ed, LF,

Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO with F5WK. Your
signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
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  any activity on 137KHz.
  the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WCB.

  73 Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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To All from PA0SE

Today I had again good reception of SAQ on=20
17.2kHz. I used a Wandel & Goltermann SLM type=20
SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz=20
with 26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.

Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square=20
loop of 1 x 1 m the signal was sufficiently over=20
the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt (25Hz I.F. bandwidth).

 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6 dB=
=B5V).
On June 30, 2002  I measured 482 microvolt/metre=20
(53.6 microvolt/metre. So the measurements are rather consistent.

This makes it possible to do some speculation as=20
to the power radiated by SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP).

The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N,=20
12.24E. Using a computer program written by=20
Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My=20
own locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of 735k=
m.

We can now enter these data into the graphs of=20
CCIR Recommendation 368-7 for ground-wave propagation. This results in:

Type of ground  dielectric constant    conductivity (mS/m)  EMRP

Perfect=20
ground          -=20
        -                            1.4kW

Land                           40=20
                     30                          3.0kW

Land                           22=20
                       3                          3.7kW

Medium=20
dry               15=20
          1                         4.7kW
ground

Dry=20
ground                  7=20
               0.3                      5.9kW
ground

If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW=20
then with an alternator output of 200kW the=20
efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D 2%.

This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at=20
such a low frequency it is  not too bad I think.

The aerial system consists of six vertical=20
radiators of 127 m high.  They are fed in phase=20
at the top and each radiator has its own loading=20
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by=20
Alexanderson) .  The total horizontal length is=20
2200 m, which is only 0.13 wavelength.  So the=20
system may have been designed to give some gain=20
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been achieved.

It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton=20
would measure the field strength outside the near=20
field area, for instance  at 5 wavelength distance, or 87km.
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be=20
assumed for calculating the EMRP (1kw produces=20
300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear way with distance).

73, Dick, PA0SE =20

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<b>To All from PA0SE<br><br>
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on 17.2kHz. I used a Wandel &amp;
Goltermann SLM type SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz with
26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.<br><br>
Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square loop of 1 x 1 m the
signal was sufficiently over the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt
(25Hz I.F. bandwidth).<br><br>
 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6
dB=B5V).<br>
On June 30, 2002&nbsp; I measured 482 microvolt/metre (53.6
microvolt/metre. So the measurements are rather consistent.<br><br>
This makes it possible to do some speculation as to the power radiated by
SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP). <br><br>
The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N, 12.24E. Using a computer
program written by Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My own
locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of
735km.<br><br>
We can now enter these data into the graphs of CCIR Recommendation 368-7
for ground-wave propagation. This results in:<br><br>
<u>Type of ground</u>&nbsp; <u>dielectric constant </u>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<u>conductivity (mS/m)</u>&nbsp; <u>EMRP<br><br>
</u>Perfect ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
1.4kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
40&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.0kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.7kW<br><br>
Medium
dry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4.7kW<br>
ground<br><br>
Dry
ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5.9kW<br>
ground<br><br>
If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW then with an alternator
output of 200kW the efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D
2%.<br><br>
This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at such a low frequency it
is&nbsp; not too bad I think.<br><br>
The aerial system consists of six vertical radiators of 127 m high.&nbsp;
They are fed in phase at the top and each radiator has its own loading
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by Alexanderson) .&nbsp;
The total horizontal length is 2200 m, which is only 0.13
wavelength.&nbsp; So the system may have been designed to give some gain
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been
achieved.<br><br>
It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton would measure the field
strength outside the near field area, for instance&nbsp; at 5 wavelength
distance, or 87km. <br>
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be assumed for calculating
the EMRP (1kw produces 300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear
way with distance).&nbsp; <br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE </b></body>
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Henny, LF,

Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance about 
550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.

Is the signal audible ??

73

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Not hrd/seen  for a while on 505 khz.
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> Hello the list,
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>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
supposed
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How about a very short resonant quarter-wave helix?

Peter, G3LDO
>  
> Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?
>  
> Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an 
> opportunity where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' 
> receiver on a satellite.  However, as we will not be allowed a large 
> traditional antenna.  I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe 
> for 29MHz.
>  
> Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a 
> decision?
>  



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Hi Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the report! Very short transmissions due to bad weather.
The loop does not like being in contact with wet leaves (see picture).

73 Warren K2ORS


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From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:19 AM
Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ


Hello  Warren and LF ,

Last night , just some tests of Warren (XGJ)  . With the sight of the infos,
the conditions are not good on the east coast of the states ! I received
WD2XGJ of 21:00 to 21:40 and very short tests at 01:20 .

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu





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Hello Lubos,

thank you for the report. I have increased the power of DI2BO about a week a=
go to approximately 50 mW to be better able to read the signal on the GM4SLV=
-grabber (1 Ampere antenna current into 8 m vertical antenna). Even for this=
 power level this is a very good signal.=20

Tnx, vy 73 and a Happy New Year!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


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  Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more


  Unbelievably strong signal now!

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you for the report. I have increased=20=
the=20
power of DI2BO about a week ago to approximately 50 mW to be better able to=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx, vy 73 and a Happy New Year!</FONT></DI=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz"=
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  Bobal=EDk</A> </DIV>
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1:38=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] DI2BO once more<=
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Hello Hall ,
I have just remade the page of the =93grabber=94 to be able to visualize
the beacons of Europe (ex: CT1DRP) that was not simple to remain in
lower part of 80% of the load of the =93PIII 750 MHz=94! it is in test
currently. I hope that each one will be able to see the signals of its
TX there.
Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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Warren
I did one at national conference a few years back- there's a thread 
worth following using the history of LF experimentation and use- you 
can take this back right to the beginnings of radio-both ham and 
commercial. There's only so much heavy technical detail that even a 
tech savvy audience can absorb - using history to spread it out can be 
a help in reducing the rate of snoring off!
Amateur operation started on LF (and MF and HF, all at the same time!) 
and the 'what goes round comes round' theme is worth exploring as 
well.
Plenty of pictures to look at always helps.
73
 Dave, ZL3FJ

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> Hello the list,
>
>  I have been asked by the Boston Amateur Radio club to do a 
> presentation on LF/MF experimentation.
> Has anyone on the list made similar presentations - does anyone have 
> any slides that they would be willing to share?
>
> tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS
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From: Dmitry <ra3yo@mail.ru>
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> Copied RA9AT on 137.776 kHz in DFCW around 18:30. Screenshot attached.
> Does anybody know the locator or QTH of this station? Did not found
> this station in any list about 137kHz stations.

It's Oleg ex RX9BS

73
Dmitry


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jay
you have now disappeared completely, have u switched off?
mal/g3kev
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> Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:03 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6
>
>
> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jose Manuel
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:54 PM
>   Subject: LF: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6
>
>
>   OK Mal,
>
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal
measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
> the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.
>
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: mal
>     To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:40 AM
>     Subject: LF: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6
>
>
>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while
for an improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Jose Manuel
>       To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>       Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:21 PM
>       Subject: LF: 507.3 WE2XGR/6
>
>
>       Hi all,
>
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
>
>
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu








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73
Victor
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Gm LF.

just cpy Chris G3XIZ in dfcw3 on 137.7KHz, it seems 2 station clg him! goog=20=
activity!!

see: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just cpy Chris G3XIZ in dfcw3 on 137.7KHz,=20=
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2 station clg him! goog activity!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see: <A   href=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dl2h=
re/hre_grab.htm">http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ</FONT></DIV></BODY></HT=
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nice capture wd2xgj
04:00z
henny pa3cpm
jo22mb
73s
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Hello,

G3XVL is 30 dB over my noise floor in Middelburg, Netherlands, locator JO11t=
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This can also be stated as arm chair copy on the internal speaker of my AR70=
30 with the 2.4 kHz SSB filter on.

Antenna: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip, 5 metre up.

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Hi Brian,

Still a little bit scruffy, but getting there!

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Hi J-P
Thank-you for monitoring.
73 and Happy New Year
Joe

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hartmut,

Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another 
schedule on CW.

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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> John,
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>> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
>> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
>> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
>> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
>> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
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> first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
> waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
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> 73
> Hartmut
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Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
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Jose
At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  OK Mal,

  Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.

  73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti





    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    Jose
    Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an improvement.
    73 de Mal/g3kev

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      Hi all,

      Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


      73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti


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Hi LF

good signal of EW6GB few minutes ago on 137.7KHz in qrss10.=20

GL 73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Sorry , still having problems with the AE switching
did run for a while , but output level un-stable

>>>> QRT AT THE MOMENT <<<<

Looking like supply voltage to  relays has fallen over the years
and the relay bank is not fully making ....

Tnx - G ..






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From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


Hi Paul-Henrik & all!
Tell me pse, what condition are you use for 503 kHz RX?

Roman
RW3ADB/KO85ro

01.12.07, 13:29, Paul-Henrik (phl@netikka.fi):

> >  HI All ,
> > If anyone's about ,,,
> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if
> > you
> > can 'see' it
> > Reports welcome
> > Tnx
> > Graham
> > G0NBD / IO83LK
> Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG=
=20
> and
> call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD"=20
> after
> some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.
> Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.
> Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if=20
> you
> will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural=20
> copy
> should be possible.
> 73's
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD

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Hi, Henny.

Sorry I missed your call at 1400z. I was messing around with the antenna and
TX, and I couldn't reply! We have had heavy icing all day, and it has upset
the antenna tuning. You were "O" copy on my 1,2m RX loop.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Dear Hartmut



Excellent result?with the PSK Hartmut.? I wonder what level of decode you managed?? A few symbols perhaps...or perhaps just a lock on the clock?

With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I suspect my ERP amy not quite be the 5mW I have estimated.

Many Thanks

David?? G0MRF??? 





Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:



73
Hartmut

Locator: JO52hp









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Dear Hartmut<br>
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<div>Excellent result&nbsp;with the PSK Hartmut.&nbsp; I wonder what level of decode you managed?&nbsp; A few symbols perhaps...or perhaps just a lock on the clock?</div>


<div>With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I suspect my ERP amy not quite be the 5mW I have estimated.<br>
<br>
Many Thanks<br>
<br>
David&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
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WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:



73
Hartmut

Locator: JO52hp

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Warren,

Perhaps there is a Vista issue...maybe some web surfing will turn it up. 
Thus far nobody else has reported audio source issues in the tests that 
Jay and I have done.

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>  Being only 25 miles away, I hear your WSJT signal FB but as far as 
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Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
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> Hello Hall ,
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> What is " Y " transmission in DFCW30
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> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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James Moritz wrote:
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>   
This is an excellent bit of work and, as far as I am aware, is the first 
time that anyone (in all the years we have had LF allocations) has tried 
to measure the effect of different environments using similar antennas.

At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my 
garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet. 
The ground here comprises a thick 12ft layer of clay which provides a 
good ground at LF but becomes lossy when saturated as it is at the 
present time.
The sea is about 400m away from this QTH within the near field at 73kHz 
and the antenna was particularly good at this frequency. The 'sea 
effect' was less noticeable at the higher LF frequencies as you might 
expect.

My antenna at 500kHz is a three-band HF quad with the feeder and quad 
fed against ground using an ATU. Using EZNEC and assuming a good ground 
it gives a gain of around -20dBi. This takes into account loading coil 
losses but not environment factors measured by Jim.
I think that my antenna is probably the most inefficient in the 500kHz 
group but I don't think this is an issue because I can still achieve the 
required ERP with more transmit power, and receive sensitivity with less 
attenuation.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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ge Frank,
have a look at spiderbeam, (Germany.)=20
vy 73, Peter





  Hi all,

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QRT FROM 0200  HRS

TNX

G ..



----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ




01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
> > "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=
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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12
> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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12/24/07

Good reception of SAQ this morning. Signals were at their best during the pr=
e-session tuneup, unfortunately IDs were few and far between. A clip of the=20=
pre-session with alternator coming up to frequency:

 http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122407A1A.wav

ID at end of first session:

http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122407A1B.wav

Conditions:

35 F Clear, low static levels
Antenna: 14 turn 10' Octoloop
Receiver: HP3586C SLM
Filtering: Cooledit
Report: ~439 =20

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Burlington CT USA=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good&nbsp;reception of SAQ this morning. Si=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>35 F Clear,&nbsp;low static levels</FONT></=
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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David.
I cannot answer your question. I was wondering about the satellite scene, th=
ere is never any mention in radcom about it these days.
I was vy active back in the OSCAR 6 days and also 10 and 13. I used oscar 10=
 for EU/HONGKONG comms, my call VS6HI
There are any amount of redundant geostationary satellites available and sur=
prised that amsat has not persued this approach. A small slot could surely b=
e made available. No need for expensive amateur only satellites.
Mal/G3KEV

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  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF


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there is never any mention in radcom about it these days.</DIV>
<DIV>I was vy active back in the OSCAR 6 days and also 10 and 13. I used osc=
ar=20
10 for EU/HONGKONG comms, my call VS6HI</DIV>
<DIV>There are any amount of redundant geostationary satellites available an=
d=20
surprised that amsat has not persued this approach. A small slot could surel=
y be=20
made available. No need for expensive amateur only satellites.</DIV>
<DIV>Mal/G3KEV</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
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  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportuni=
ty=20
  where we could&nbsp;propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a=20
  satellite.&nbsp; However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional=20
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DIV>
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In reply to info@f-dijkshoorn.speedlinq.nl on Tue Dec 25 23:04:27 2007:

Sorry need to swtich off my tx, the VCO (Yesu FT 100) is not verry stable.

Frank.

> Hi all.
> 
> First everybody have a nice christmas evening.
> 
> I relocated my transmitter to a new QTH, with a better vieuw to the east.
> This is my first test and the tx is not verry stable, and the ERP is verry lo.
> The freqency is +_ 136.318 Khz. qrs 30.
> 
> Reports are welcome.
> 
> 73 
> Frank PE1RRF
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Rudy N6LF(WD2XSH/20) in Cottage Grove Oregon and Bob W2ZM (WE2XGR/6)in Penn 
Yan NY worked tonite 03:00 UTC on 1 December for an Overland record of 
3681.83 km (2287.886 miles)!

Congrats to Bob & Rudy!

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Hallo LFers!
I just heard 339 G3KEV on 502.500 in normal cw QSO. Conditions seams be
very good! I have never heard G station at 16:30UT.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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tu Jean-Pierre
henny pa3cpm
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Hello Henny and all ,

I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
the duration/space of the dahhh is correct , the frequency is also
corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
no cannot be sure at 100% !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a écrit :
> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> **
> *enny pa3cpm*
> *73s*




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Hello John ,
Good copy on your signal in WOLF (10)
73 qro J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to=20
> 0300Z. Note that this is the standard 10 bit/sec data rate for WOLF.=20
> Reports are welcome.
>
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Sorry , are not conected the antenna !......
No logger last night

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello ,

g3kev a =E9crit :
> long dashes on 136.319 khz. Pse try cw 20wpm or faster.
> g3kev
136 .319 it is the beacon of Brian CT1DRP in DFCW30

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Brian and LF ,

CTDRP are vy trong now ! ( audible )
see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Seasons greetings all.
 
Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF  frequencies?
 
Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity  
where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a  satellite.  
However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondered if 
I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.
 
Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a  
decision?
 
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<DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
frequencies?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Subject: [PHISH] LF: [137] last night : UA4WPF , CT1DRP , WD2XGJ , WD2XES


Hello LF ,

Last night good conditions , i copy :

UA4WPF   137.777   LO66PU (3682km) DFCW
CT1DRP     136.319    IN51NS (942km)   DFCW
WD2XGJ   137.7798 FN42HI (5536km) QRSS
WD2XES    137.577  FN42CH (5565km) WOLF

The files and captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Brian,

I ran captures overnight starting at 0300Z, and the best copy was in the 
0515 - 0600Z period (snippet attached), with the last visible characters 
around 0720Z.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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i have a lot of imagination mal,

enny pa3cpm
73s
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:39 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg


  Henny.
  You would need a lot of imagination to identify that signal!!!!!!!!!
  g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: henny van elst=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:33 AM
    Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg


    capture  vo1na??=20
    time 2:30z  qrss 60
    antenne dx-10
    rec:rohde&schwarz ek891
    henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
    73s joe.


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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i have a lot of imagination=20
mal,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>enny pa3cpm</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would need a lot of imagination to id=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>capture&nbsp; vo1na??=20
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    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time 2:30z&nbsp; qrss=20
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    ek891</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny pa3cpm&nbsp;=20
    jo22mb</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s joe.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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John, LF,

Left Rx & JT2 running, the attachment shows the only time that something was 
received, I doubt if it means anything, it is my only offering.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> I'm going to stick WE2XGR/3's neck out tonight, and try a test of the JT2 
> mode found in Joe Taylor's WSJT program. The test will be on 508.500 kHz, 
> and will run from about 0000 to 0300 UTC.

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Hallo Hartmut!
That=B4s fine, that I can read some MW info from you, after so long time.
I hope, your informations about receiving on 500kHz will be continue.=20

73 on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:40 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: WD2XGJ

The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Hi LF

Last night i copy  :  137778.4 UA9CS
                                  137777.2 UA4WPF

Dmitry
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Very interesting and enlightening reading Jim!

Thank you for putting all the effort into this test and sharing your results
with us. There is no "schoolbook" for the average city/suburban lot situatio=
n
and this test provides very welcome information.

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expecte=
d
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are=20=
in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences withi=
n
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actua=
l
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff =3D 7.9m. Both antennas used grou=
nd
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, whi=
ch
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using=
 a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz=
.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 oh=
ms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The avera=
ge
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculat=
ed
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant =3D 400mA, Calculated ERP =3D  88mW, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency =3D 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant =3D 380mA, Calculated ERP =3D 74mW, Measured ERP=20=
=3D
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3D3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant =3D 3.9A, Calculated ERP =3D 0.62W, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency =3D 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant =3D 3A, Calculated ERP =3D 0.34W, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to t=
he
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For th=
e
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively hig=
h
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coi=
l
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much bett=
er
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna i=
n,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistanc=
e
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, th=
e
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to t=
he
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence=20=
in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistanc=
e
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck wit=
h
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths o=
f
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Yet again, I am testing my station in beacon mode. The last few times 
I have tried this, I have had spaks and have had to rebuild parts of 
the station. The latest rebuild is the mast-top inductor (4mH).

This evening from now (1900) to about 2230, I will transmit QRSS60 on 
136.31875kHz.

This is just a test of the new coil. If all is well, I will make 
longer transmissions and aim to transmit overnight at the weekend.

Mike, G3XDV
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137777.0 : DL2HRE   ( good signal )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( nil)
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )
136319.8 : F4DTL     ( good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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henny pa3cpm
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WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .

Thanks to all who reported last night. Hartmut was, of course, the 
distance champion!

John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3



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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:


> 136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )

Hi Jean-Pierre,
the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
pulling the
wires down.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Someone active last nite on 137.7 khz at 2200 utc qrs 3. Too broken up to 
read, but appeared to be sending cq ending with k
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Now cq at 1925z on 137.7 khz qrs 3 weak but good copy with qsb
73 de mal/g3kev/io94sh


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Hello Ted ,

Ted Holdahl a =E9crit :
> It's probably not me but I am transmitting on 137.777 kHz.=20
>  =20
I will have liked that this silk your signal, but it is only that of RA3YO

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello Ted ,<br>
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Ted Holdahl a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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Thank-you J-P for monitoring.
The TX is still active.

Happy new year to everyone.

Joe Vo1NA

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Just some further comments: I am talking about the GM4SLV-grabber
(http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm).

I used to have a measured 1.7 mW ERP with a more or less unknown antenna
current. Using some of the the recent observations of  Jim, M0BMU and some
of Rik's (ON4YD) formulas I estimate that the radiation resistance of my 8 m
vertical with an 8 m horizontal top load radial to be in the 70 mOhm range.
I have increased the antenna current now to 1 Ampere which corresponds to an
ERP of about 70 mW. I will try to make some field measurments later to
confirm this. Anyhow, the powe is sufficient to be copied by John's grabber
from time to time.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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> Hello John,
>
> thanks for putting up your grabber on the internet.
>
> I am currently observing DI2BO's signal in comparison to other signals on
th
> air. It is intersting to see how big the QSB can be from one minute to the
> other. DI2AM seems to be stable throughout the day, DI2BO's signal with
much
> less ERP (my best guess is in the 100 mW range with a 1 Ampere antenna
> current) can only be seen from time to time, but sometimes it comes up
> almost as strong as DI2AM.
>
> The distance is around 1100 km.
>
> Again, thanks for providing this service. Best 73 and a Merry Christmas!
>
> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
>
>
>



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John,

>  The results do not
> show the frequent fades so common on the shorter paths. Very interesting!

the results are a bit amazing. I did not expected this consistent copy
of your signal. For a comparison a QRSS signal from the north-eastern
US would have been useful. But I lost Dave, XSH/17 about 23:50. I
think he went QRT.

Indeed a very interesting test.

73
Hartmut
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Zitat von Karl-Heinz Gansel <softrock@dl6ebs.de>:

> Good Morning Uwe,
>
> i was listening this morning ~9:20h - 10:07h  to your beacon at 
> 136.319khz. Your signal was audiable and about 15db - 20db over qrm.
>
> QTH: JO31HS
> Ant: Aktiv antenna OP27, 14m High
> Receiver. Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
> Spectrum Lab
>
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>

Thanks for that Karl-Heinz.
the QRG is GPS disciplined standard on 136,318.515kHz measured with a GPS
disciplined counter (Peak Tech 2840).
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



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Has anyone had any success, or otherwise, with the WSJT JT2 or JT4 modes on
LF?

Joe would love to hear of any LF use of these. Also I'd like to include
something, in Feb's Data coluumn in RadCom.   It looks ideal - narrow
bandwidth, constant amplitude, good error correction.   Joe reckons a
similar performance to JT65, and after monitoring GB3VHF and the GB3RALs, it
does have considerable low noise performance - well below audibility - so
probably 10dB better than normal CW .   JT2 and 4 can be used with narrower
bandwidths, still, so a further proportional enhancement should be seen.

Also, is there much PSK31 used? I see from the reflector that there seems to
be plenty of narrow shift  RTTY, but with more people using linear
transverters on 500kHz, PSK31 probably ought to have the edge.

-- 
Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt

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<div>Has anyone had any success, or otherwise, with the WSJT JT2 or JT4 modes on LF? </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Joe would love to hear of any LF use of these. Also I&#39;d like to include something,&nbsp;in Feb&#39;s Data coluumn in RadCom.&nbsp;&nbsp; It looks ideal - narrow bandwidth, constant amplitude, good error correction.&nbsp;&nbsp; Joe reckons a similar performance to JT65, and after monitoring GB3VHF and the GB3RALs, it does have considerable low noise performance - well below audibility - so probably 10dB better than normal CW .&nbsp;&nbsp; JT2 and 4 can be used with narrower bandwidths, still, so&nbsp;a further&nbsp;proportional enhancement should be seen.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, is there much PSK31 used?&nbsp;I see from&nbsp;the reflector that there seems to be plenty of narrow shift &nbsp;RTTY, but with more people using linear transverters on 500kHz, PSK31 probably ought to have the edge.<br><br>-- 
<br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> </div>

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Hi Laurie,

comparing screenshots again, the drifting trace can positively be identified=
 as part of the AQC transmission around 21:25:

http://members.aol.com/df6nm/lf/dx/3dx00000_071225_2158.jpg (Singapore)
http://members.aol.com/df6nm/lf/dx/testEu071225_2200_inserted.jpg (Nuernberg=
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Wishing the best of luck -
Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM
  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
  I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice=20
  traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21=
:00
  could this have been PE1RRF ?=20
  Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are gettin=
g to be=20
  good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now seve=
ral days
  since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapo=
re pre-dawn.=20
  May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.
  Merry Christmas to all.
  Laurie.G3AQC.=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Laurie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>comparing screenshots again, the drifting t=
race can=20
positively be identified as part of the AQC transmission around=20
21:25:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://members.aol.com/df6nm/l=
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71225_2158.jpg</A>&nbsp;(Singapore)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://members.aol.com/df6nm/l=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing the&nbsp;best of&nbsp;luck -</FONT>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dlaurie.mayhead@googlemail.com     href=3D"mailto:laurie.mayhead=
@googlemail.com">lawrence mayhead</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 26, 2007=20=
9:33=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial     size=3D2></=
FONT><BR></DIV>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<BR>I also saw the very clear=20
  "O"&nbsp; on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice <BR>traces lower on=20
  318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<BR>could thi=
s=20
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e=20
  conditions are getting to be <BR>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst risin=
g=20
  towards zero and it is now several days<BR>since the last disturbance. So=20=
I=20
  will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn. <BR>May have to shif=
t=20
  freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.<BR>Merry Christmas to=20
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Hi LF

Last night i copy  :  136318 G3AQC

Dmitry
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Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
Otherwise the information is misleading
G3KEV

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> tu Jean-Pierre
> henny pa3cpm
> gl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
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>
> Hello Henny and all ,
>
> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
> the duration/space of the dahhh is correct , the frequency is also
> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a écrit :
> > *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> > **
> > *enny pa3cpm*
> > *73s*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date:
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>
>


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capture wd2xgj 01:15z
henny pa3cpm
73s

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Tnx Paul for the report. Hpe to work u agn soon xband
Merry xmas HNY
de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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Hello Mal & LF

You are a honest 579 here in Vaasa at 17.18UTC calling CQ on 502.5kHz

No HF TX available here at the moment.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> Hi all
> Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of
acty.
> The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
> I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
>






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Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Thanks J-P!  Merry Christmas everyone!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
>
> The captures of night are at :
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Hello Nicolas ,
Justement j'=E9tais en train de rechercher qui pouvait transmettre un "L"=20
sur cette fr=E9quence ! en g=E9n=E9ral le "L" c' est RU6LA ! mais je ne suis=
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au 295=B0 , c'est bien 300 km en qrp bravo bon d=E9but .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

F4DTL@aol.com a =E9crit :
> Hello JP F1AFJ on yur grabber : *L =3D F4DTL beacon QRP.*
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> *http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm*
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> *Best 73  F4DTL in JN18FP*
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Hello Dave,
I just listen to your signal the last 30min. (23:30-00:00) and had a
copy of your call -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/g3wcb_503_85_141207.JPG
Receiver here only Yaesu FT-857 and PA0DRT Miniwhip.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

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Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM
CW i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Good copy of SAQ this morning. Screen capture and audio excerpt here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/saq_2007_12_24.html

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


73
Hartmut
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Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental time, Please?

Manuel Santos EA4BVZ


2007/12/14, Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
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<div>Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental&nbsp;time, Please?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Manuel Santos EA4BVZ<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">2007/12/14, Peter March &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
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<div>I did it again!!!!!!</div>
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e in calculating&nbsp;Swedish time into UTC&nbsp;time for the Christmas Eve=20=
transmission.</div>
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<div>I am terrible sorry!</div>
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Hello Brian,
I sought in my files it captures of your old will qra, I never received
you so extremely !.....  JN06HT=3D>IN51NS =3D 936 km with the qtf 236=B0,
I am very well released in this direction, the relief is with more than
500 km ! PLEASE which are your new conditions ? Thank you very much
for this return on 137 Khz .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
> Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
> who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
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> My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
> than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is=20
> located
> on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
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> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.
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> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
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> At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>
>> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>> after rebuilding system at new location.
>>
>> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>
>> Reports welcome.
>>
>> Brian CT1DRP
>>
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Greetings - we are off again into the wild bloo yonder so the 9V1 grabbers w=
ill be on auto for a period.=20
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One R75 is set to 10.140 MHz QRSS and the other  centered in 136.318Khz +24h=
rs for Eu - If the system freezes up so be it.
=20
A very happy Christmas to you all - looks like another house/radio move in Q=
3 2008 and probably a continuation of limited antennae opportunities.....
=20
Vy 73 Laurence 9V1 LF
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Greetings - we are off again into the wild bloo yonder&nbsp;so the 9V1 grabb=
ers will be on auto for a period. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
One R75&nbsp;is set to&nbsp;10.140 MHz&nbsp;QRSS&nbsp;and the other &nbsp;ce=
ntered in 136.318Khz +24hrs for Eu - If the system freezes up so be it.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
A very happy Christmas to you all - looks like another house/radio move in Q=
3 2008 and probably a continuation of limited antennae opportunities.....<BR=
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Vy 73 Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> The loop does not like being in contact with wet leaves (see picture).
>
Wahoooo ! they is dangerous to make radio! a chance that it is with
moisture , because one could put fire !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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It's probably not me but I am transmitting on 137.777 kHz.=20
Ted, WD2XYW

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] What is it ?


> Hello Hall ,
> Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this
frequency ?
> See picture !
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

RA3YO

73
Hartmut
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Error of  subject  sorry

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello LF ,
>
> This evening , good copy of beacon CT1DRP  , see picture .
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

--=20
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Hi all
An interesting night/early morning for transatlantic dx.
XGR/6 in and out of qsb from abt 2358utc until I went qrt at 0130 utc. The
sig peaked a few times but was good at 0045/0049 utc and long enough for a
short qso in normal CW.
XGR/2 appeared briefly at 0054/55 utc then disappeared but at least the
signal did appear in Scarborough which is a good distance to travel.
I was pleased to hear that Finbar/GI4DPE had a qso with XGR/6, he has a nice
atlantic sea path from Derry to the USA/Canada.
At best XGR/6 was 549 with me at 0045/49 utc again good for the distance.
Obstacles on this band seem to be QSB and at times QRN at the USA end.
 Because of the brevity of the signal peaks,  CW at a reasonable speed 10/20
wpm is the only sensible mode to use. Very slow QRS with x second dots etc
would not work because of the QSB.
73 to all until the next time.
de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough/NE COAST/ENGLAND

























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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Last night , just some tests of Warren (XGJ)  . With the sight of the infos,
the conditions are not good on the east coast of the states ! I received
WD2XGJ of 21:00 to 21:40 and very short tests at 01:20 .

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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NIL in Moscow.



03.12.07, 21:26, Brian Rogerson (brian@esoterica.pt):



> Good evening LF enthusiasts,

> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30

> after rebuilding system at new location.

> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

> Reports welcome.

> Brian CT1DRP



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73!

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Hello Hall ,

What is "unreadable transmission" ??

20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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OK Andy, thanks.

Jos=E9, EA1PX




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jose -

I don't know, not being anywhere near the actual site.  However, I've
forwarded this to Keith G0WYS who should be able to tell you all you
need to know...

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt




On 02/12/2007, Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz,=20
> is
> fully horizontal?
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> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
>
>



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=20
Dear Ken.
=20
I can only guess that the "never in the same positiion twice" is an =20
indication that you have oscillation and not amplification.
I have used the L C L network with success on bipolar transistors but with =20
mixed results with FETs.   You will get some very high voltages from  the=20
inductor connected to the drain, especially if the design Q is too  high.  P=
ossibly=20
this is killing the FET.
Can I suggest that a 1:4 broadband bifilar transformer would be a lot more =20
successful.   I have built many of these for driving larger amplifiers  and=20
also for driving the grids or cathodes of valve amps.  They seem quite  reli=
able=20
but would need a LPF after the transformer.
=20
Regards
=20
David  G0MRF
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=20
=20
In a message dated 11/12/2007 10:57:58 GMT Standard Time, =20
ken.h.wright@btinternet.com writes:

Has anyone experienced problems  using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am usin=
g=20
an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design para=
meters for the=20
network are input:10 ohms,  output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q=20=
=3D 12,=20
giving, L1  38=C2=B5H, C1  3.7nF, L2  84=C2=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixe=
d capacitor=20
plus a 2 gang  500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have tried=20
driving the MOSFET  with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms signal=
 sitting=20
on a +ve  bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi TF1152A/1 (50=CE=
=A9)=20
power meter  about three times, but when 12v is removed from the PA and=20
reconnected there  is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power output, bu=
t is never=20
the same  position twice, and there seems to be a very critical adjustment o=
f=20
the drive  to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that looks like a sine wave,=
=20
although  when I have got it right there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas=
=20
anyone as  to what may be going wrong? =20






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<DIV>In a message dated 11/12/2007 10:57:58 GMT Standard Time,=20
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  &nbsp;output network the design parameters for the network are input:10 oh=
ms,=20
  output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1 &nbsp;38=
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Hallo Gary and LF!
I can see your DFCW signal on 503.600kHz. Conditions are not as good as
yestreen. There is more long and deep QSB.=20
The weather is bad, it=B4s raining, temp 2=B0C only.

73!
Lubos, OK2BVG

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LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,

it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.

Regards and seasons greetings to all

Markus, DF6NM
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  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:35 AM
  Subject: LF: LF grabber


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  Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones
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  The Singapore grabber is still operational on "auto" until our return from=
 here in Sussex UK
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  The window is still 136,316 to 136,321.5 KHz  link http://www.kl1x.com/3dx=
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  Times are GMT - and local time is GMT +8
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  Laurence 9V1 LF
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore=20=
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20:08 tonight.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Regards and seasons greetings to all</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent=20
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Hello David!
That=B4s fine, I will be QRV, so I hope I will see your signal.
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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In a message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time,
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz writes:
Hello Lubos.
Thank you for the report, I have switched the beacon off this morning so
as not to cause QRM to my 'LF neighbours' here in London.

I will switch on again tonight from 22.00. to 09.00 UTC
As I am using a class D transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part
of the QRP beacon sequence now appears as plain carrier.
Regards
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David

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Hallo David and LFers!
I have seen very poor signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters
"MRF" . But it is not good time for reception signals from UK now. I am
going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be more better time for
receiving. I hope, beacon will be in operation with 50mW.
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GL !
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial id=3D"role_doc=
ument"><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello=20=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That=B4s fine, I will b=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>G0MRF@aol.co=
m<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 26,=
 2007
10:58 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: LF 500 G0MRF=
 Beacon</span></font></p>

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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>In a
message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time, lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Lubos.</span><=
/font><font  color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you for the re=
port, I have switched
the beacon off this morning so as not to cause QRM to my 'LF neighbours' her=
e
in London.<br>
<br>
I will switch on&nbsp;again tonight&nbsp;from 22.00.&nbsp;to 09.00 UTC<br>
As I am using a class D transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part of=20=
the
QRP beacon sequence now appears as plain carrier.</span></font><font  color=
=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></f=
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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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s!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have seen very poo=
r signal on 503.700kHz
and I identificete letters &#8222;MRF&#8220; . But it is not good time for r=
eception
signals from UK now. I am going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be
more better time for<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>receiving. I=
 hope,
beacon will be in operation with 50mW.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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n></font></p>

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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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Yes, I agree Mal

Sending long "initial calls" sometimes during low-activity periods would at
least give others something to listen to.

Worked GI3PDN and GI4DPE X-band two days ago. GI4DPE is using a small 5 metr=
e
tall antenna atm. so it was a challenge in the QSB. GI3PDN was quite strong=20=
in
QSB peaks.

I wouldn't mind adding some activity on 600m myself but our authorities are
unfortunately still not of that opinion. They have not yet made any official
statements on the matter after the new GMDSS resolution was agreed in
WRC-07.(The part of interest in the resolution was no mentioning of 500kHz a=
s
an emergency traffic QRG anymore).

600m condx tonight seem much better than yesterday, already a faint copy her=
e of
GI4DPE's initial calls and it is only 18.00UTC.

Don't give up 600m now, there will be only one chance to secure a slice of i=
t
before the commercials are dictating the rules.

73's to all LF

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ





Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
> Mal/G3KEV
>
>




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Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev


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NIL in Moscow, Gary. -(





08.12.07, 23:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi Roman, LF,

> Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about=20

> 2300 utc or a little later.

> Keep watching please.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:34 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500 DFCW

> > Hi Gary & LF!

> >

> >

> >

> > Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

> >

> > QRSS10.

> >

> >

> >

> > Did not copy your signal, Gary.

> >

> > Your TX is off now?

> >

> >

> >

> > 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):

> >

> >

> >

> >> Hi LF,

> >

> >> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> >

> >> Reports welcome.

> >

> >> 73

> >

> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > 73!

> >

> > Roman, RW3ADB

> >

> >

> >=20



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73!

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Hello  all on LF ,

I have just started my grabber, the antenna is with the QTF 55=B0
in direction of Asia, I will commutate the antenna with the QTF
285=B0 in direction of America to 21:00 UTC.
grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu





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Copied RA9AT on 137.776 kHz in DFCW around 18:30. Screenshot attached.
Does anybody know the locator or QTH of this station? Did not found
this station in any list about 137kHz stations.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp

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GE LF,

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Hi Henny ,
Send to me your capture on line to :  1afj[At]online.fr
so that compares the scale of the temp  (with what I already received)
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *capture  vo1na?? *
> *time 2:30z  qrss 60*
> *antenne dx-10*
> *rec:rohde&schwarz ek891*
> *henny pa3cpm  jo22mb*
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long dashes on 136.319 khz. Pse try cw 20wpm or faster.
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  "dl2hre" <dl2hre@arcor.de> schrieb: 
Gm Finbar, LF, MF. good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 501.3KHz.
till 0730utc readable.at 0735utc lost the signal. 73 Ed DL2HRE
JO51TQGiDPE has also been received audible in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria,
at 20.15 UTC, 23.03 UTC, and 00.05 UTC, with some QSB, over the night
December 16th to 17th, 2007.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gm Finbar, LF, MF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 
501.3KHz.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>till&nbsp;0730utc readable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>at 0735utc lost the signal.</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Paul-Henrik!
Thanks for confirming of my guess. Conditions aren=B4t so good, but it is
advantageous for my receiving tests.
GN
Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:45 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: [500] GI4DPE

Hello Lubos!

Yes, it is Finbar testing a very small antenna. 5 metres high with a
topload
consisting of an inductance + 4 x 6m top hat wires. He also uses some
base
loading on it.

I could copy the callsign by ear during a few 5min periods this evening.
The 10s
dashes between callsigns stand out well on your FFT and mine looks the
same.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo Finbar and ALL!
> I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
> configuration of my program for QRSS3.
>
> GL and 73
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>


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John,

> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .

first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.


73
Hartmut



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Thanks to Gary and Hartmut for the reports last night. I have pointed 
Joe Taylor to the .wav files that Hartmut recorded, as he was interested 
in them.

WD2XES will run JT2 on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 2130 until 0000 
UTC, and then move up to 137.779 for more conventional operation.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Strong Brian tonight, yu 're audible in JN18.Could yu describe yur LF  
station ?
 
 
Best 73  from F4DTL 

RX:  Icom 7400
Ant: mini  whip PA0RDT



   

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Merci Jean-Pierre.  Bon chance!
Joe

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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received vy strong signs from (U4)WPF and RA3YA last night.
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PS. Markus, ich hatte in der vorletzten Nacht die falsche Richtung der K9AY
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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

> Hi Uwe ,
>
> uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
>> the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
>> pulling the
>> wires down.
> "vy" =3D very in English  =3D  sehr auf Deutsch !  ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
"vy" 73 Jean-Pierre




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Mal ,
Here it there not a report ! Just an observation with accompanying notes,
whose rule is known and diffused! There is no fallacious information! ......
f1afj

mal a =E9crit :
> Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
> Otherwise the information is misleading
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
>
>
>  =20
>> tu Jean-Pierre
>> henny pa3cpm
>> gl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
>>
>>
>> Hello Henny and all ,
>>
>> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
>> the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
>> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
>> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
>> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
>>> **
>>> *enny pa3cpm*
>>> *73s*
>>>      =20
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 21/12/2007 13:17
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>
>
>  =20

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Hi Jean Pierre,
Many thanks for the report and screen shots, what a pile up !
So lucky that we all managed to avoid giving each other QRM.
Pity that conditions we not so good I saw nothing on Laurence's grabber.
I am sorry if my signal causes your excellent receiver some difficulty.
When the signal leaves the vert. part of my Ant.at 080degrees on its way
to Singapore (I wish) it passes with some difficulty through many trees
but then it goes over open water for about 1 Km,  then over fields etc.
after about  30/40 Km  it crosses the coast, now it is again open sea
for 100Km until it reaches France. So you see there is not much to stop it
Hi!
I hope you had a Bon Noel, 73 Laurie.

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Hi Jean Pierre,<br>Many thanks for the report and screen shots, what a pile up !<br>So lucky that we all managed to avoid giving each other QRM.<br>Pity that conditions we not so good I saw nothing on Laurence&#39;s grabber.
<br>I am sorry if my signal causes your excellent receiver some difficulty. <br>When the signal leaves the vert. part of my <a href="http://Ant.at">Ant.at</a> 080degrees on its way<br>to Singapore (I wish) it passes with some difficulty through  many trees
<br>but then it goes over open water for about 1 Km,&nbsp; then over fields etc.<br>after about&nbsp; 30/40 Km&nbsp; it crosses the coast, now it is again open sea<br>for 100Km until it reaches France. So you see there is not much to stop it Hi!
<br>I hope you had a Bon Noel, 73 Laurie. &nbsp;  <br>

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GI4DPE NW CQ ON 500 AND QSX FOR U ON 3533

MAL/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Finbar,
> actually I have a good copy of your beacon on 501.38 KHz. Are you around
to try a Crossband QSO?
>
> many thanks
> regards
> Marco
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
> Direct: +49 69 1366 1214
> Mobile: +49 171 866 1214
> Fax: +49 69 1366 1536
> mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com
>


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137kHz: Captured the T/A signal from WD2XES and WD2XGJ. From EU on
137.7 in QRSS3 F6BWO and DN1VLF.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Poor copy of the CW-signal from WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz.
Readable for a few minutes around 01:40. Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on
505.259 kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF and G4WGT.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello Wolf good copy at end of this afternoon DK4U on  137700.
 
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I'm going to stick WE2XGR/3's neck out tonight, and try a test of the 
JT2 mode found in Joe Taylor's WSJT program. The test will be on 508.500 
kHz, and will run from about 0000 to 0300 UTC.

This is a weak signal mode, probably comparable to WOLF in many 
respects. WSJT comes from the VHF/UHF weak signal domain, and is a bit 
unfriendly to learn. I have written up some simple instructions for 
receiving that may help:
http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm

As noted on that page, transmission will not be continuous, but on the 
even minutes only, and then for 47 seconds out of the minute.

All reports are welcome, and feel free to email me directly with any 
questions. Reception should be easy in the eastern U.S. at this power 
level. The question is whether it can be copied at greater distances.

For those who are offended by this sort of thing, there will be plenty 
of CW signals on 600 meters tonight, and please spare me your rants.

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Hello Brian and LF ,
This morning the sun is raised , the signal is very good !
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Good copy from start to finish..

RX - MacKay Marine 3021A 0-30mhz Receiver

ANT - East/West 2000' longwire.

Happy Holidays to all..

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Jose
At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jose Manuel=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:54 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6


  OK Mal,=20

  Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measure=
d here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied on=20=
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  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Jose
    Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for=
 an improvement.
    73 de Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
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      Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:21 PM
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      Hi all,

      Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


      73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at present=20=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as=
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  The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal fro=
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This morning SAQ was received with good aural copy in the South Western part=
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Hello the list,

  I have been asked by the Boston Amateur Radio club to do a presentation on 
LF/MF experimentation.
Has anyone on the list made similar presentations - does anyone have any 
slides that they would be willing to share?

tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS




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Henny, Jean-Pierre,
 Thank you for the reports and captures!

WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05 UTC!
Sunset here 21:12 UTC.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:00 AM
  Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj1312.jpg


  capture xgj  0:30z
  henny cpm
  73s

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny, Jean-Pierre,</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Waren LF.

yesterday at 23utc nice cpy of XGJ, it started at 2245utc with full "XGJ". n=
o picture made sri.

73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Reino
It seems to be working now. Merry Xmas to all including the reindeer,
bringing all the new radios to merry old England
73 de Mal/G3KEV

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> Reflector seems to work, Merry Xmas to Mal!   73 Reino, OH7OL.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:03 PM
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>
>
> > Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
> > G3KEV
> >


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tu Jean-Pierre.

I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
start now.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
----- Original Message -----=20
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> Hello  all ,
>
> "HRE" vy srong this moment on 1377777 dfcw
>
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:
> Greetings all
>=20
> Mal: Maybe your countrymen are busy working Russia on 144 MHz / CW /=20
> troposcatter this moment (not kidding, wkd GM4ODA/p on the Shetlands, =20
> OY9JD / Faroe, UA2 .. UT2 yesterday, and these conditions still last=20
> today).
> Amateur radio at it's best...

Yes, it is a great tropo'. Yesterday evening there was a text rolling=20
across the top of our TV picture "Your TV reception may be affected by=20
atmospheric disturbances". That's usually a good sign of great CONDX on=20
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73
Johan


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T/A enthusiasts

WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz cw beacon on at 2200Z . Reports from EU would be appreciated. Beacon will be
operational until at least 0030Z.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Pse give the qrg of 500 khz stns.
g3kev

----- Original Message -----
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> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
> UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
> strong peaks.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
> Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>
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A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.
The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in
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Ok Thanks for that Rik,

Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I 
see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae is 
it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could 
be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you 
could control where the coil  was placed

My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if i 
could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth 
system would be the other half  hihi

Tnx

Graham ..




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> Graham,
>
> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> adapted for 500kHz.
> Maybe that will be of some help.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>
>>
>>
>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>
>>
>>
>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>
>>
>>
>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>>
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> G0NBD
>
>
>
>
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>


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Hello  all on LF ,

I copy  now :

136318.0 : DJ8WX ( cover by the signal of CT1DRP )

136318.0 : CT1DRP ( has prblemes of handling and slipped on 136318 )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht









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Ga LF.

just cpy Michel F5WK on 137.71KHz in qrss3 mode.

Loc hr JO51TQ

73 Ed DL2HRE

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Hello JP F1AFJ on yur grabber : L = F4DTL beacon  QRP.
 
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Thanks Markus - captures are hopefully being archived for review, some akin=20=
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Now on route to EA8 for a few days.
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Laurence G4DMA/mobile


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2007 22:30:39 +0000Subject: LF: Re: LF grabber



Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
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it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.
=20
Regards and seasons greetings to all
=20
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Laurence KL1X=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: LF: LF grabber
 Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones The Singapore grabber i=
s still operational on "auto" until our return from here in Sussex UK The wi=
ndow is still 136,316 to 136,321.5 KHz  link http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jp=
g Times are GMT - and local time is GMT +8  Laurence 9V1 LFaka G4DMA in Sogg=
y East Grinstead W Sussex.  =20

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Thanks Markus - captures are hopefully being archived for review, some akin=20=
to the last Florida&nbsp;USA presendential election 'reviews'<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Now on route to EA8 for a few days.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence G4DMA/mobile<BR><BR><BR>
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From: markusvester@aol.com<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Tue,=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore=20=
around 20:08 tonight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Regards and seasons greetings to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B> <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:hellozeroh=
ellozero@hotmail.com">Laurence KL1X</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:3=
5 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: LF grabber</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones=
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The Singapore grabber is still operational on "auto" until our=
 return from here in Sussex UK<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The window is still 136,316 to 1=
36,321.5 KHz&nbsp; link <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jpg" target=
=3D_blank>http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jpg</A>&nbsp;<BR>Times are GMT - and=20=
local time is GMT +8<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>aka G4DMA in=20=
Soggy East Grinstead W Sussex.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>
<HR>
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=3D_blank>Get it now!</A> =3D </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />Don't ge=
t caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! <a href=3D'http://club.li=
ve.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=3Dchick_wlhmtextlink1_dec' target=3D'_new'>Che=
ck it out!</a></body>
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Hi Hartmut,

  Thanks for the report and captures!
What time is your sunrise?
73 Warren K2oRS/WD2XGJ

----- Original Message ----- 
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> The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> 73
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> Locator: JO52hp
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Dr Mal! Ur rprt is nw 559 in jo31 hp on 502,5 Khz !Pse listen on 3533 Khz Vy
73 Arnim DL1EIE

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von mal
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Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev


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Yes Spiderbeam was the name where I was searching four.

Nice pictures and web site Fabian.

Thanks All.
73, Frank PE1RRF.


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 08:56:51PM +0100, Frank Dijkshoorn. wrote:
>> I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
> 
> http://spiderbeam.net/
> 
> The 18m mast is 219 EUR. Not cheap, but those Spiderbeam masts are a
> lot more rugged and stable than anything else I have used so far.
> 
> 73,
> -- 
> Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
>


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From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
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Visual proof attached.
The signal has very little fading, so far no more than 2 dB.
02-12-2007 21:10 UTC

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Hello LF ,

CT1DRP is currently visible, I put it on my grabber into
provisional in lower part of window T/A  , see grabber at :
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Hello the list,

     Good conditions tonight on LF!  WD2XGJ strong copy from Oregon to 
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For details see:
http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.
 
Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage  
will be back on.
 
ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.
 
Merry Christmas
 
David



   

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Henny,

  Thanks for the nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0712.jpg


  nice capture wd2xgj
  04:00z
  henny pa3cpm
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  73s
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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Hello David,

The pa0rdt-Mini-Whip was designed as a low noise reception antenna at LF, be=
cause at my location a loop antenna appeared to pick up to much noise.
This type of antenna does work very well at low frequencies, in fact it exce=
ls at VLF.
On the other end of the spectrum, reception drops off above 20 MHz, though I=
 have received signals up to 50 MHz.
The frequency response of the buffer amplifier is flat to at least 100 MHz,=20=
so this is not the cause of degraded performance versus frequency.

Hajo, DJ1ZB, has done some computer analyses, but his work does not confirm=20=
a decrease in performance up to 100 MHz.

The capacitance of the probe and the input capacitance of the FET form a vol=
tage devider for rf.
Theoretical this should also give a flat frequency response; which does not=20=
happen in practice.
This might be due to straight circuit capacitances.
A mini-whip with leaded parts has a PCB antenna measuring 30 x 40 mm.
Using SMD parts 22 x 26 mm of copper clad PCB is neccessary for the same sig=
nal levels.
This is approximately 50% less.

One solution could be to increase the capacitance of the probe and decrease=20=
the gate resistor of the FET.
Doing so the gate capacitance has less impact on the frequency response as i=
t is swamped by the gate resistor.

To be honest, I have not done much work in this area yet, as my main interes=
t is reception at LF.
I have tried some circuits with a very low input capacitance, which yielded=20=
an even smaller probe.
Which was not much use in practice.

A combination of a very low input capacitance and a low gate resistor could=20=
do the trick.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The pa0rdt-Mini-Whip was designed as a low=20=
noise=20
reception antenna at LF, because&nbsp;at my location a loop antenna appeared=
 to=20
pick up to much noise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This type of antenna does work very well at=
 low=20
frequencies, in fact it excels at VLF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the other end of the spectrum,&nbsp;rece=
ption=20
drops off above 20 MHz, though I have received signals up to 50=20
MHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The frequency response of the buffer amplif=
ier is=20
flat to at least 100 MHz, so this is not the cause of degraded performance=20
versus frequency.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hajo, DJ1ZB, has&nbsp;done some computer an=
alyses,=20
but his work does not confirm a decrease in performance up to 100=20
MHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The capacitance of the probe and the input=20
capacitance of the FET form a voltage devider for rf.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Theoretical this should also give a flat fr=
equency=20
response; which does not happen in practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be due to straight circuit=20
capacitances.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A mini-whip with leaded parts has a PCB ant=
enna=20
measuring 30 x 40 mm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using SMD parts&nbsp;22 x 26 mm of copper c=
lad PCB=20
is neccessary for the same signal levels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is approximately 50% less.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One solution&nbsp;could be to increase the=20
capacitance of the probe and decrease the gate resistor of the FET.</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doing so the gate capacitance has less impa=
ct on=20
the frequency response as it is swamped by the gate resistor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To be honest, I have not done much work in=20=
this=20
area yet, as my main interest is reception at LF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have tried some circuits with a very low=20=
input=20
capacitance, which yielded&nbsp;an even smaller probe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which was not much&nbsp;use in=20
practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A combination of a very low input capacitan=
ce and a=20
low gate resistor could do the trick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Brian,

  Congratulations on your new station setup!
I hope you might consider re-establishing the CT1DRP grabber, it is very 
much missed!

73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
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Subject: Re: LF: Testing on 136319


> Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Victor PA3FNY, and Henny PA3CPM
> for their capture.
> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
> At 16:45 05/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
>>description will
>>appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
>>reports
>>and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next 
>>few days.  For anyone interested
>>the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps 
>>disciplined 5MHz frequency standard
>>(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.
>>
>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>>At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>>>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>>>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>>>
>>>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>>>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is 
>>>located
>>>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>>>
>>>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>>>be grateful to learn.
>>>
>>>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>>>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>>>
>>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>>
>>>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>>>
>>>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>>>
>>>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>>>
>>>>Reports welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Brian CT1DRP
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 



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Look my report on the web, pse.

I copy signal on 503.2 at 5.01 mks=3D3.01z!

May be it was you b4 off the TX?



01.12.07, 04:52, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> QRT FROM 0200  HRS

> TNX

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:09 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > tnx

> > > Graham ..

> > > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > Hi Graham!

> > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > >  HI All ,

> > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=
=20

> > > > if

> > > > you

> > > > can 'see' it

> > > > Reports welcome

> > > > Tnx

> > > > Graham

> > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

> > > "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=
=CE=CB=D5=D2=D3 =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8

> > > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

> > =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=EF=D4=CB=D2=D9=D4=CB=C9 - =E1=CE=CF=CE=D3=D9 =CE=CF=
=D7=D9=C8 =CF=D4=CB=D2=D9=D4=CF=CB:=20

> > http://cards.yandex.ru/subscribe.xml

> --

> 73!

> Roman, RW3ADB

> =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=
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 http://mail.ya.ru



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Hi John, LF,

Well, this is my first time to give it a try, I did already have the 
software because the JT6 mode is being used on the 4 metre band (one of my 
favourite bands). I will try again tonight, if the weather stays calm I may 
put the vertical up to 12 mtrs (9 at the moment).

I see that Hartmut decoded a few lines :-

Captures of WE2XGR/3 can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Cheers

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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> Gary,
>
> I'm still pretty green at this, but it looks like there just wasn't enough 
> signal. The "*" at the end of the line indicates a lock, but the message 
> decoding is an all or nothing process. If there is any error, then no 
> message will appear.
>
> I'm going to play locally with this some more today, and may be able to 
> offer better instructions for tonight. Thanks!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>
> 




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Hallo Gary and ALL!
Nice signal on 503.600 DFCW, just now.
 
GL !
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!


WD2XGJ (The lighthouse of Wayland!)

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WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
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> Hello  all on LF ,
> 
> Last night i copy  :
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> DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )
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> WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
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> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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GM all!
I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?
 
73 !
 
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Jean-Pierre, Henny,

Yes, that was WD2XES building pyramids last night. The signal also 
appeared on DF6NM's screen, but very faintly.

T/A LF conditions are very good -- the lack of deep fading on 
Jean-Pierre's screen was impressive.

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Hallo Jos=E9 and all !
Thanks for information about your reception of beacon OK0EMW. That=B4s
fine, becouse the distance between ours QTH is 2028km! You are receiving
very well!
GL an 500kHz and have a nice day!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
=20
************************************************=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jose Manuel
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:10 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500 evening
=20
Hello all,=20
=20
Good copy now of DI2AM, DI2AG and OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible
in the QSB maximum peaks.
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73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for information=20=
about your
reception of beacon OK0EMW. That=B4s fine, becouse the distance between ours=
 QTH
is 2028km! You are receiving very well!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL an 500kHz and have a=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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*************************
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-</span></font><st=
1:PersonName><font   size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:Tahoma'>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</span></font></st1:PersonNa=
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[mailto:owner-</span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><sp=
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ld'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jose Manuel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 13,=20=
2007
10:10 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><st1:Person=
Name><font   size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500 evening</spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Good copy now of DI2AM=
, DI2AG and
OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible in the QSB maximum peaks.</span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
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Hello LF ,

Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong)

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu



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Hartmut

Welcome back...your reports were missed!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: WD2XGJ


> The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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Hi Uwe ,
Ok , my antenna ( K9AY ) are not for you ,  good signal this morning  .
see on my grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> Hi all,
> indeed, it is dj8wx. ID in QRSS3.
>
> thanks for the report, Jean-Pierre.
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
>
>
>
>
> Zitat von dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de>:
>
>> may be DJ8WX
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
>> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:44 AM
>> Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is " WX "
>>
>>
>>> Hello Hall ,
>>>
>>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
>>>
>>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>>
>>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Dave, all,

> That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...

Actually, when carried to the extreme, it's good news for city dwellers. 
Since the principal losses have to do with vegetation, and that may be 
either non-existent or many stories below, antennas stretching between 
city buildings can be quite efficient.

I've given the example before of a 350 foot single wire T on 580 kHz 
with a 30 foot downlead. It was supported on the ends by two 10-story 
buildings, and the feedpoint was on the roof of a 4-5 story building in 
the center. There was a LOT of copper cornice work in the area, and it 
had been carefully bonded together, and tied to some heavy copper cables 
which ran to the basement of the center building, thence to the water 
mains. The feedpoint resistance actually dropped over the years as 
air-conditioning equipment and piping was added on the roof. The last 
measurement of impedance was 2.3 - j240 ohms, as I recall. The antenna 
was taken down about 20 years ago.

As Jim points out, the loading coil controls the efficiency in such 
cases. If memory serves the tuning setup was about 50% efficient in the 
above example. The simplest coupling arrangement is a single coil, 
grounded at the bottom, with a coupling tap. It can be analyzed as a 
high-pass L network.

Anyway, excellent work, Jim. I hope your results will be recorded on a 
web site somewhere.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

>
> Hello Uwe and LF ,
>
> I copy your beacon now ! what your conditions please ?
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
Hi Jean-Pierre,
conc my equipment pse see

http://home.versanet.de/~uwe-jannsen/

G3AQC is agn on the QRG.
I changed the QRG to 136,319kHz

regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Hi Mal, LF,

FB your comments regarding the FT-847 etc, I noticed from previous mails 
that you use a UC/1, I hear they are very good.

Regarding aerials, I understand that there is no substitute for full size 
resonant hardware but due to my small garden I have to make the best of the 
space & keep on the right side of XYL & neighbours. So the vertical for 
Tx/Rx on 136 & 500 KHz tuned at the base & the mini-whip for all other VLF 
to MF Rx options.

Also being in the middle of a dense housing estate the noise level does rise 
& fall sometimes to dramatically high levels & then to dramatically quiet 
levels but generally mid-way. Of course at the moment there is lots of noise 
generation with the large amount of Xmas lighting displays including my own 
!!

May I take this opportunity to wish you & all who contribute & read the LF 
mail

A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS

All My Best Wishes

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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> Gary.
> The FT 847 is good on 500 khz with a good antenna. I have one here but the
> Datong UC/1 upconverter IF 144 and 28 mhz fed into the ICOM 746 is better.
> Those using the mini whip are doing well but it is no substitute for a 
> real
> antenna like a 1/4 wave or large loop if you have the space and a quiet
> environment.
> 73 Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight
>
>
>> Hi John, Jay, LF,
>>
>> Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only
> for
>> John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.
>>
>> I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following,
>> quite surprised at the results :-
>>
>> 1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
>> 2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.
>>
>> Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with
>> number 2 setup.
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Hey Dmitry, LF.

nice signal of UA4WPF, may be also traces of RA9CUA??? pse cfm.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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> Hi all
> 
> UA4WPF start now 137777.2  qrss60
> 
> Dmitry
> 
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Henny,

    Thank you for the nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wd2xgj2612.jpg


  nice capture wd2xgj
  time:04:30z
  henny pa3cpm
  merry xmas
  73s

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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XGR/2 on as of 0030. Currently at 100 watts but will step the power up over the evening.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> Hartmut,
> 
> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another 
> schedule on CW.
> 
> John A.
> 
> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> >> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> >> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> >> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> >> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
> >> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
> > 
> > first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
> > waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
> > 
> > 
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Hallo Geri and all!
I just captured signal from DI2BO - see on the snapshot. 
 
Have a nice weekend!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello LF ,

Last night good conditions , i copy :

UA4WPF   137.777   LO66PU (3682km) DFCW
CT1DRP     136.319    IN51NS (942km)   DFCW
WD2XGJ   137.7798 FN42HI (5536km) QRSS
WD2XES    137.577  FN42CH (5565km) WOLF

The files and captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hi Warren
Tnx for the info. He was audible but severe rapid qsb, vy difficult to read
but got the W and a G and the /6 ok. I dont like guesswork and try to report
exactly what I hear or see.
Condx might be good at present if there was enough acty to ck it out. Did
not hear VE1ZZ on 3533 khz to ck a xband qso last nite.
Gi4dpe is going strong on beacon mode at presernt daytime.
73 de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
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> Mal,
>
>   That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (also known as W2ZM) in Penn Yan, New York that you
are hearing.
> I am forwarding this to Bob, hopefully you can QSO.
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> > Hi all
> > Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
> > qsb. Rx not calibrated.
> > Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007
> >
> > Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>


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jay
just audible at 0054 /55 the odd letter so far then gone !!

----- Original Message -----
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> Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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>
> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jose Manuel
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>
>   OK Mal,
>
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal
measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
> the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.
>
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
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>
>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while
for an improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Jose Manuel
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>
>       Hi all,
>
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
>
>
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> --
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>


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Good morning Geri,
copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but
unfortunately to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again
tonight.
=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03
=20
Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


Hello YLs and OMs,,
=20
DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day,
later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it
can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20
=20
Looking forward to your reception report.=20
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
=20
=20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yaesu=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></DI=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN></D=
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',=20
DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 January 2002 03:14<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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on=20
the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.=
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the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later thi=
s=20
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automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
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<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
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Hi Paul-Henrik & all!

Tell me pse, what condition are you use for 503 kHz RX?



Roman

RW3ADB/KO85ro



01.12.07, 13:29, Paul-Henrik (phl@netikka.fi):



> >  HI All ,

> > If anyone's about ,,,

> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if

> > you

> > can 'see' it

> > Reports welcome

> > Tnx

> > Graham

> > G0NBD / IO83LK

> Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG=
 and

> call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD" aft=
er

> some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.

> Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.

> Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if y=
ou

> will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural=20=
copy

> should be possible.

> 73's

> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

> Vaasa / KP03SD



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73!

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Brian

Signals not as consistent as the night before with significantly more fading. Best capture of the
night below.

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Jim,

  Excellent work as always!
Just a note, I did the ERP calculations for WE2XGR/6 Bob for 500kHz (also 
for 137 and 185kHz).
Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field 
strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are indeed 
very close. Perhaps we can get some field strength measurements on 137 and 
185kHz to see the effect there, but right now Bob is having too much fun 
working the world on 500kHz!

73 Warren K2ORS


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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally 
> expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are 
> in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences 
> within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. 
> Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, 
> which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using 
> a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 
> 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 
> ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The 
> average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The 
> calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 
> 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to 
> the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For 
> the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively 
> high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a 
> coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much 
> better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna 
> in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss 
> resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, 
> the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to 
> the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence 
> in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the 
> resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck 
> with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths 
> of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
> 



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Mal

Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio o=
perators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and=
 other interested parties. Tnx.

Jay =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
  Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of US=
A stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 353=
3 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and=
 DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possibl=
e.=20
  He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp si=
tuation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
  For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity for=20=
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  73 de Mal/G3KEV


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Thank you Hartmut, Henny, Willem and Jean-Pierre for the reports and 
captures!
Very FB longwave conditions!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 8/9 Dec


> 137kHz: Captured the T/A signal from WD2XES and WD2XGJ. From EU on
> 137.7 in QRSS3 F6BWO and DN1VLF.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Poor copy of the CW-signal from WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz.
> Readable for a few minutes around 01:40. Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on
> 505.259 kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF and G4WGT.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
> 



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Dear Lubos, LF Group,

Thanks for the screen shot - yes, that is me doing some more antenna experim=
ents...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:22 AM
  Subject: LF: [500] Signal on 503810


  GM all!

  I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?

  =20

  73 !

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the screen shot - yes, that is m=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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Henny,
   Thank you for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:03 PM
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  capture ct1drp  19:00z
  pa3cpm  jo22mb
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Hi Jim, I wondered whether that was your objective with the "portable site".
That is a very interesting confirmation of some of the "thinks" a lot of us
have had about ERP calculation and the environmental effects. Well done,
nice project.

One small comment on the open field aerial, your loss figures confirm the
advisability of having extensive top-wires to increase the aerial capacity
and so enable a higher Q coil to be more easily achieved. In this situation
the top-wires may not add much in terms of ground loss reduction. It is also
possible that in this situation an advantage would be seen in helically
winding the vertical section too. In most cases the Rrad advantage of
helical winding (only about 15-20% I think)  is probably negated by the
increased capacity to the lossy surroundings.

I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and the
environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all of
the distributed Rrad.

I am pleased you managed to finish that work before the wind and weather
made it too uncomfortable being out in the middle of a field !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
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T/A enthusiasts

GI4DPE / WE2XGR/2 completed QSO #3 earlier this evening. Finbar had excellent copy throughout
although reported rapid and very deep QSB. Copy at XGR/2 was somewhat more difficult with moderate
QSB and QRN from storms over the Gulf of Mexico.

G3KEV, GI4DPE and EA1PX reported very good copy of WE2XGR/6.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Jim,

That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...we'll
all have to move to the country. Are you thinking of writing it up for, say,
RadCom?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Dear LF Group,

I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
week - this is a summary of the results.

The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
should have quite high conductivity.

I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
600k.

Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.

Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%

Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
82mW,
difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%

Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%

Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%

So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
surrounding trees and buildings.

The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!

The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
reasonably high conductivity.

So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
considered too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU









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18metermast,kijk op google bij spiderbeam frank,is wel vrij duur,219euro....=
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gr  henny pa3cpm
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  From: Frank Dijkshoorn.=20
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  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:56 PM
  Subject: LF: 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast,=20


  Hi all,

  I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
  The mast I used nouw is a 12.5 Meter from zk-antennen.de=20

  I remember that there was some discussion about this new mast on the refec=
tor.
  At that time I looked, only it was verry expensif.

  Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in Japan.

  Regards Frank PE1RRF

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic=20
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Henny,

   Thank you very much for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS

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  capture xgj  015:00z
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Perhaps is this VO1NA ( see picture )

The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj
















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Warren,

> What time is your sunrise?
> 73 Warren K2oRS/WD2XGJ

sunrise was 07:06 this morning

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Hello Joe ,
Happy new year to you and your family .

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Nil for VO1NA

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Hello LF!

Positive input:

As I'm writing this SM6BHZ is 7 S-units over noise here on 505.1kHz, stronge=
r
than ever received at this QTH before. He is located 807km from me.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net>:

> Tnx Mal, maybe Gus could not get his temporary permit renewed.
>
> Vy 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:11 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ
>
>
> > Warren
> > Not hrd/seen  for a while on 505 khz.
> > Just checked and nil hrd/seen
> > Mal/G3KEV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "K2ORS" <k2ors@comcast.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:57 PM
> > Subject: LF: SM6BHZ
> >
> >
> >> Hello the list,
> >>
> >>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
> > supposed
> >> to expire on November 30.
> >>
> >> 73 Warren K2ORS
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>




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May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ




01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
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> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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Hallo Alberto and LF!
SAQ signal was really very good - see on the picture.
It was used RX RFspace SDR-IQ + notebook HP Pentium4 (program SpecLab). 

I am looking forward to your new program version 1.30!

73 and have a nice day!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene
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Subject: LF: SAQ this morning

Good copy of SAQ this morning. Screen capture and audio excerpt here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/saq_2007_12_24.html

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...
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What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...<BR>
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Hi Gary, LF,

according to my 100 kHz monitor, Anthorn Loran came on the Lessay chain rate=
 (GRI 6731) yesterday 10:25 UT. After some adjustments of the transmission d=
elay, they reached their "final parking position" in the old Rugby slot (27.=
3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. The sideband lines should now be on the u=
sual frequencies, i.e. exact multiples of 100 kHz / 6731 / 2.=20

The time-domain graph was recorded 2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 (top)=
, using 22050 samples/s (left to right) and phase encoded as colour.=20

Best wishes to all

Markus, DF6NM


=20


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn


> Hi All,
>=20
> Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran=20
> Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not=
=20
> shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen.
>=20
> My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would=20
> have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the=
=20
> same lines but stronger.
>=20
> Any comments please.
>=20
> 73
>=20
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gary,=
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LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>according to my 100 kHz monitor,&nbsp;Antho=
rn=20
Loran&nbsp;came on&nbsp;the Lessay&nbsp;chain rate (GRI 6731)=20
yesterday&nbsp;10:25 UT. After some&nbsp;adjustments of the transmission del=
ay,=20
they&nbsp;reached their "final parking position"&nbsp;in the old Rugby slot=20
(27.3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Th=
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sideband lines should now be on the&nbsp;usual frequencies, i.e. exact multi=
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of 100 kHz / 6731 / 2. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The time-domain&nbsp;graph was=20
recorded&nbsp;2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 (top), using 22050 samples=
/s=20
(left to right) and phase encoded as colour.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Gary - G4WGT" &lt;</FONT><A   href=
=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" &lt;</FONT><A   hr=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn</FONT></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt; Hi All,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Can anyone tell me how to=20=
calculate the=20
extra lines produced by Loran <BR>&gt; Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice=20=
as=20
many lines as before which are not <BR>&gt; shown on my spreadsheet list of=20=
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frequencies previously seen.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My location is considerably cl=
oser=20
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se=20
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stronger.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Any comments please.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;</FONT></BODY></HTM=
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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice
traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about
21:00
could this have been PE1RRF ?
Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are getting
to be
good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now
several days
since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore
pre-dawn.
May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.
Merry Christmas to all.
Laurie.G3AQC.

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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<br>I also saw the very clear &quot;O&quot;&nbsp; on Lawrence&#39;s grabber, but did you notice <br>traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<br>could this have been PE1RRF ?
<br>Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are getting to be <br>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now several days<br>since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn.
<br>May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.<br>Merry Christmas to all.<br>Laurie.G3AQC. <br> 

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Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Victor PA3FNY, and Henny PA3CPM
for their capture.
With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP


At 16:45 05/12/2007, you wrote:
>Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
>description will
>appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
>reports
>and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next 
>few days.  For anyone interested
>the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps 
>disciplined 5MHz frequency standard
>(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.
>
>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>>
>>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
>>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>>
>>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>>be grateful to learn.
>>
>>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>>
>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>>
>>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>>
>>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>>
>>>Reports welcome.
>>>
>>>Brian CT1DRP
>>
>
>




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Hi all
Obs last nite around 2230/2300 utc
Nil dx hrd on 600 m fm the USA
160 m in good shape, worked W1MK,W1LEH,K2UU,KJ2S,W3GH,N4ZV,W8JI and 
VE1ZZ,VE3EJ.
I went qrt at 2320 utc
73 mal/g3kev

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>160 m in good shape, worked=20
W1MK,W1LEH,K2UU,KJ2S,W3GH,N4ZV,W8JI and VE1ZZ,VE3EJ.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I went qrt at 2320 utc</FONT></DIV>
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capture xgj  03:00z
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden=
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Info on power/antennas used

Bob K3DJC

 
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:24:04 -0500 "K2ORS" <k2ors@comcast.net> writes:
> Hello the list,
> 
>  Well the celebration may  be a bit premature.  Bob and Rudy had 
> several 
> 'partial' QSOs but were not able to complete the exchange due to 
> QSB. Maybe 
> tomorrow night.
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS


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Thanks, Ed.

Your signal was good today. It was just about audible in a 24 Hz bandwidth
(SPM-30)

73 and have a good Christmas!

Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
  Sent: 22 December 2007 15:43
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 137.7 QSO G3WCB


  Ga Dave, LF.

  i say our best QSO, tu have a nice X-MAS.

  73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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2122007>Thanks, Ed. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ga Dave, LF.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05=20
> UTC!
> Sunset here 21:12 UTC.
Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset
(in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test
for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it  ;-) =20

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi Warren ,<br>
<br>
K2ORS a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Sunset here 21:12 UTC.</font></div>
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Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset<br>
(in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test<br>
for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it&nbsp; <span   class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-)&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><br>
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Hi Gary - 
   
  Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?
   
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<div>Hi Gary - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian (G3YKB)</div><p>&#32;
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Hallo Mike and All!
I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
signal is growing stronger. 

73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thayne
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Subject: LF: LF 500: M0BMU/P on 503.8

Been receiving M0BMU/P for past 30 mins at 559 sending series dashes
and callsign. 

Mike G3GMS
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Hallo David and LFers!
I have seen very poor signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters
"MRF" . But it is not good time for reception signals from UK now. I am
going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be more better time for
receiving. I hope, beacon will be in operation with 50mW.
 
GL !
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 
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Subject: LF: G0MRF Beacon
 
Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.
 
Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from
garage will be back on.
 
ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.
 
Merry Christmas
 
David

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ignal on 503.700kHz
and I identificete letters &#8222;MRF&#8220; . But it is not good time for
reception signals from UK now. I am going to try this evening from 21:00UT,=20=
it
will be more better time for <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span>rece=
iving.
I hope, beacon will be in operation with 50mW.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL !<o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
*****************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bo=
ld'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>G0MRF@aol.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 25, 2=
007
11:21 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G0MRF Beacon</sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Currently
have the beacon running overnight with higer power.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Have
just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage will be
back on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>ERP apx
50mW so up 10dB from normal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Merry
Christmas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hi all,

Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


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Correction  - should be VE1ZZ



----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 5 Dec 2007 at 17:24, g3kev wrote:
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> > Jack/ve3zz
> 
> Jack's callsign is VE1ZZ.
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> 73 Dave G3YMC
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Thanx to Hartmut and F1AFJ Jean Pierre for your reports yesterday.
 
Happy  Christmas.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP





   

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Ok John , i listening the next night .

73 J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to=20
> 0300Z. Note that this is the standard 10 bit/sec data rate for WOLF.=20
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
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Hello Geri,

just captured part of your callsign at 505,014 KHz, 15:20z

73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
  Verzonden: dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello YLs and OMs,,

  DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later
this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be
switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.

  Looking forward to your reception report.

  Best 73

  Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Hello Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>just captured part of your callsign at=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>73</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Victor</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>PA3FNY</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>JO22NC</SPAN></DIV>
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens </B>Holger 'Geri',=20
  DK8KW<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14<BR><B>Aan:</B>=20
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  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
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  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
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  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
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  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Hi Warren,
Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
emitted for a test . The grabber is now ready for you! .......
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Hello!

 

SAQ signal was very good in JO70HF - see my page, please:

 

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Good copy all the time.

 

ANT - Mini Whip

 

RX - Only PC with Sound Card, SW Rocky and Argo.

 

 

73  and  PF 2008  for all!

 

Petr, OK1VEN, JO70HF

 

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Hi all,
indeed, it is dj8wx. ID in QRSS3.

thanks for the report, Jean-Pierre.

regards
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Zitat von dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de>:

> may be DJ8WX
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@onlin=
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> Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is " WX "
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>> Hello Hall ,
>>
>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
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>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi J-P,

Thank-you for monitoring the signals and posting the spectra on
your web site.

There appear to be weak fragments of elements between 0030 and 0100 at=20
times when the transmitter was active.  Let's keep trying!

73
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> traces ?  + spurious
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hi Gary - 
   
  Thanks for the report - glad to see that I am "visible" if not readable in Chorley.
   
  I usually use MixW2 software. I've no idea how it compares to other software but I can dial in 23 Hz / 22 baud and it seems to behave.
   
  73 Brian (G3YKB IO91TP Watford)

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Thanks for the try, I thought it was Chris !! I did see a weak RTTY trace on 
SpecLab.

Your signal was way down in noise & no chance of any copy.

What software do you use ?? I am trying to see if RTTY 23 Hz shift at 22 bd 
speed will do any better on this band, MMTTY will do that mode.

I mailed Sergei (UA9OV) who wrote the TrueTTY I use to impliment 22 bd on 
next upgrade & he as much as said yes !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Hi Gary -
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> Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I 
> could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable 
> on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?
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Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no point
going at this speed. Try cw
g3kev

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tu Jean-Pierre.

I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
start now.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
----- Original Message -----
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> "HRE" vy srong this moment on 1377777 dfcw
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Dear Dmitry,
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Dear Dmitry,<br>Many&nbsp; thanks for the report, still trying to reach Singapore!<br>73 Laurie <br>

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hello LF.

yesterday evening cpy RA3YO and UA4WPF=20

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Audible copy of WE2XGR/6 again around 00 UTC, but weaker than previous night=
.

Some seconds of weak audible copy of WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz, some minutes bef=
ore 00:30 UTC.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audible copy of WE2XGR/6 again around 00 UT=
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( just a few tests )
137776.4 : F4DTL     ( beacon QRP )
136318.0 : "P"  ???    ( not identified ! )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( vy good signal )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu





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Mal,

  That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (also known as W2ZM) in Penn Yan, New York that you are hearing.
I am forwarding this to Bob, hopefully you can QSO.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Hi all
> Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
> qsb. Rx not calibrated.
> Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007
> 
> Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
> 



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strong signal,gary and audible
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Gm Dave, LF.

Tu for the rprt, best 73 good DX, nice sunday.

Ed DL2HRE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:49 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: activity 137.7


  Ed, LF,

  Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO with F5WK. Yo=
ur signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.=20

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
    -----Original Message-----
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    any activity on 137KHz.
    the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WC=
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    73 Ed DL2HRE

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enworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
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V>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff s=
ize=3D2>Ed,=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =20=
   size=3D2>Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO wit=
h F5WK.=20
  Your signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =20=
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  Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    LF: activity 137.7<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any activity on 137KHz.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the picture shows top Michel s signal,=20=
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Tech info G3KEV/IO94SH
Antennas

RX setup.
Vertical  rectangular  loop 600 feet perimiter abt 80 ft high at top and 7
feet at bottom above ground resonated on 500 khz band, EAST/WEST.
or alternative
1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal also used
for Transmitting, 50 ohm matching unit at base of vertical.
 Each antenna selectable and fed via 50ohm coax to a Datong UC/1 upconverter
(has preselector)and two IF outputs 144 or 28 mhz. I use the 144 mhz output
to a Icom 746 transceiver. The two outputs can be used at the same time if
required to separate receivers.

I have a small Wellbrook 1m diameter circular loop, which has a preamp and
that works well but well down on the big antennas, sig/noise is good
I have other receivers also suitable for LF/MF if required.

The 136 khz antenna consists of 3 x inv L spaced around a tower at 100 ft
high, all vertical leads joined at the bottom to a matching atu for 50 ohms

For 160m the antenna at present is a one wave inv L up at 100ft

Total of 3 masts in use at this qth, plus high trees around the perimiter of
the field.

de G3KEV/IO94SH




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GE LF!
Just captured nice signal from G3XIZ.
 
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> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev

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Hello Hartmut ,
Nicolas (F4DTL) running 12V 0.5A input in a vertical antenna
of 10 m without top load, not regulated very well .
73 qro J-P f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00.=20


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Dear Rik, LF Group,

I think the main effect of having  the elevated loading coil is too reduce
the voltage on the downlead of the antenna - this would have two advantages:

-Reduced voltage on the downlead, resulting in lower dielectric losses due
to objects in the field near the downlead.

-Reduced displacement current from downlead to ground, resulting in higher
current at the top of the vertical section of the antenna. This would
increase the effective height of the antenna somewhat, especially if the top
loading part of the antenna is quite small compared to the vertical section.

On the antennas that I tested, the tops of the loading coils were raised
about 2.5m above ground. The reasons for this were mainly to reduce losses
in the loading coils, and to keep the high voltage parts of the antenna a
safer distance away from accidental contact with people. The problem in
trying a fully-elevated loading coil, especially at my home QTH, is finding
somewhere to mount the coil. Due to my flimsy antenna supports this would
require an extra mast to support a loading coil that had low enough loss. I
am not sure the effort would be worth it, as the horizontal part of the
antenna passes closer to the trees than the downlead does, so I think most
of the losses would be in the horizontal section. There is also the problem
of how to change bands between 136k and 500k - at the moment, I have
separate tuners for each band, and swap the antenna wire between them. This
would be a lot harder if the coil was at the top of the mast!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results


> Dear Jim,
>
> thanks for sharing your experimental result with us, most interesting.
>
> Did you ever try to put (a part of) the loading coil up in the air ?
> What I experienced with my 136kHz antenna was that putting a part of
> the loading inductance at the top of the vertical section worked miracles.
> In 1999 I placed a +/- 1.5mH coil at the top of the vertical section
> of my inverted-L antenna. This represented about 50% of the required
> loading inductance, so another 1.5mH remained at the bottom (1m above
> ground). It resulted in a +/- 5 dB signal increase (measured by PA0SE).
> The "upper" coil was rather low Q (to reduce weight): I used a 5
> liter container (the ones filled with purified water for ironing) and
> 1mm isolated wire.
> After mentioning this on the reflector I received a number of
> responses from others who also tried it and it seemed that it gave
> only a significant benefit when the antenna was surrounded by lossy
> objects. In some way the elevated loading coil seemed to "decouple"
> the antenna from the lossy surrounding.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>



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Good evening LF enthusiasts,

CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
after rebuilding system at new location.

Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

Reports welcome.

Brian CT1DRP



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Captured CT1DRP at 136119 Hz  16:09z
73
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Hi Nicolas
F5WK nice signal here IO94SH at 1857z on 15/12/07 now on 137.7 qrs3
He is calling S57A
de Mal/G3KEV/SCARBOROUGH/IO94SH

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Thanx dear F5WK Michel for my first contact on LF band.

  Best 73  F4DTL Nicolas=20


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<DIV>Hi Nicolas</DIV>
<DIV>F5WK nice signal here IO94SH at 1857z on 15/12/07 now on 137.7 qrs3</DI=
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<DIV>He is calling S57A</DIV>
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Dear Jim,

thanks for sharing your experimental result with us, most interesting.

Did you ever try to put (a part of) the loading coil up in the air ?
What I experienced with my 136kHz antenna was that putting a part of 
the loading inductance at the top of the vertical section worked miracles.
In 1999 I placed a +/- 1.5mH coil at the top of the vertical section 
of my inverted-L antenna. This represented about 50% of the required 
loading inductance, so another 1.5mH remained at the bottom (1m above 
ground). It resulted in a +/- 5 dB signal increase (measured by PA0SE).
The "upper" coil was rather low Q (to reduce weight): I used a 5 
liter container (the ones filled with purified water for ironing) and 
1mm isolated wire.
After mentioning this on the reflector I received a number of 
responses from others who also tried it and it seemed that it gave 
only a significant benefit when the antenna was surrounded by lossy 
objects. In some way the elevated loading coil seemed to "decouple" 
the antenna from the lossy surrounding.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 14:14 9/12/2007, you wrote:
>Dear LF Group,
>
>I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
>week - this is a summary of the results.
>
>The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
>performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
>that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
>etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
>such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
>antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
>antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
>these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
>and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
>antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
>located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
>some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
>relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
>a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
>with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
>measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
>effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
>field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
>systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
>point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
>should have quite high conductivity.
>
>I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
>RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
>frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
>The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
>10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
>at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
>600k.
>
>Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
>measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
>efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
>ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
>Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
>difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
>Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
>82mW,
>difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
>Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
>difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
>Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
>difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
>So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
>simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
>lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
>resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
>surrounding trees and buildings.
>
>The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
>antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
>open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
>efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
>The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
>For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
>home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
>cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
>loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
>with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
>loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
>efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
>inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
>a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
>would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
>too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
>rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
>ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
>reasonably high conductivity.
>
>So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
>text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
>the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
>characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
>is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
>increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
>dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
>resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
>this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
>not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
>wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
>considered too.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU


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Sry picture !

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello LF ,
>
> Good copy of :
> WD2XGJ (short try in QRSS60)
> WD2XES (short test in graphical mode)
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> The files of captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>

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Hi Laurence,
frequ was 137,777kHz on my scale
regards
Uwe



Zitat von Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>:

>
> What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...
>
> Cheers
>
> Laurence 9v1 lf
>> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:38:28 +0100> From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de> 
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: WPF audible> > 
>> (UA4)WPF was audible last night here in jo43sv. aerial: K9AY loop.> 
>> in addition pse see attachment.> has the station been switched off 
>> at 0300UTC ?> > regards> Uwe/dj8wx
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Mike,

Not sure if this is you on 136.319 KHz, if it is what are the funnies on the 
sidebands ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:58 PM
Subject: LF: XDV beacon again


> Yet again, I am testing my station in beacon mode. The last few times
> I have tried this, I have had spaks and have had to rebuild parts of
> the station. The latest rebuild is the mast-top inductor (4mH).
>
> This evening from now (1900) to about 2230, I will transmit QRSS60 on
> 136.31875kHz.
>
> This is just a test of the new coil. If all is well, I will make
> longer transmissions and aim to transmit overnight at the weekend.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
>
>
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Hello all, nice copy from VLF station SAQ this morning with a confortable  25 
dB SNR.
 
Thanx to all Grimeton's team specially to Lars.
 

Ant:  mini whip directly on PC. 
Sound card: EMU 202 with SAQ rx config for Spectrum  Lab
 
Happy Christmas F4DTL in  JN18FP



   

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<DIV>Hello all, nice copy from VLF station SAQ this morning with a confortab=
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<DIV>Thanx to all Grimeton's team specially&nbsp;to Lars.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Sound card: EMU 202 with SAQ rx config for Spectrum=20
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All the best Ken and wishing you a very linear new year :)

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  To all LFers.

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Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

tnx

Graham ..


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From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Hi Graham!
Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

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Hi Marcus,
Many thanks for the identification. Very encouraging !
Normally my sig. does not drift but since I had only just
switched on having been out all day and the shack was cold
to start, I guess it is possible.
I have shifted frequency to 136,320.5kHz so as to leave 318 clear.
All being well I will try again tonight and will start earlier.
Best wishes for the Christmas season.
Laurie G3AQC

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Hi Marcus,<br>Many thanks for the identification. Very encouraging !<br>Normally my sig. does not drift but since I had only just<br>switched on having been out all day and the shack was cold<br>to start, I guess it is possible.
<br>I have shifted frequency to 136,320.5kHz so as to leave 318 clear.<br>All being well I will try again tonight and will start earlier.<br>Best wishes for the Christmas season.<br>Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Dear LF Group,

Didn't work first time, so try again...

----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Moritz=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:13 PM
Subject: LF Antenna Effective height comparison


Dear LF Group,

After doing the "open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have bee=
n repeating field strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for compariso=
n. The field strength measurements generally give lower values for ERP than=20=
those calculated from the dimensions of the antenna and the antenna current,=
 which could be interpreted as reduced effective height of the antenna due =20=
to the screening effect of the environment around the antenna. I did several=
 sets of measurements at 136kHz and 503.8kHz with the antenna in 4 different=
 configurations - inverted L about 40m long at nominally 8m and 10m high, an=
d the same wire supported in the middle with a telescopic fibreglass mast to=
 make an inverted V with the apex at about 13m and 15m high. The radiation r=
esistance of each configuration was calculated using NEC-based antenna simul=
ator software, and from this the effective height was calculated. This was c=
ompared with a "measured" Heff  determined by working backwards from the ERP=
 values and the antenna current measurement

The graph in the attachment compares the calculated and measured Heff for th=
e four different antennas ("Winter 2007"). For comparison, the graph also in=
cludes results of similar measurements on the 10m inv L and 15m inv V made e=
arlier this year ("Summer 2007"), and the 10m inv L "Open field site" measur=
ements done recently. In the current measurements, the measured Heff for the=
 home QTH antenna is roughly 2m less than the calculated value, with Heff be=
ing slightly lower for 136kHz than 503kHz. The summertime measurements show=20=
a somewhat larger reduction in Heff, and a greater difference between 136k (=
about 4m reduction in Heff) and 500k (about 3m reduction). As mentioned befo=
re, the measured and calculated open-field site antenna results match quite=20=
closely. For the 10m inv L, for which all 3 sets of measurements were availa=
ble, the apparent effective height for essentially the same antenna varies o=
ver a range of about 2:1.

So it looks like a simple approximate way to model the effects of the enviro=
nment on the radiated signal from the antenna is to subtract a fixed amount=20=
from the effective height of the antenna. The amount to be subtracted appear=
s to depend on the time of year. Perhaps this is due  to the trees shedding=20=
their leaves. The cold weather last week when the  measurements were made al=
so has the effect of reducing the loss resistance of the antenna - perhaps t=
he freezing conditions also affect the effective height. Also, the reduction=
 in Heff seems to be somewhat frequency dependent, with a greater reduction=20=
at lower frequencies. The same was true for 136k/73k measurements I did a fe=
w years back.

I also measured the loss resistance of the 4 antenna configurations - Rloss=20=
reduces with increasing antenna height. At 503kHz it was 24ohms for the 8m i=
nv L, decreasing to 19ohms for the 15m inv V. At 136kHz, it was 66ohms for t=
he 8m inv L, down to 43ohms for the 15m inv V. These figures are much larger=
 than the "open field site" antenna, which was about 8.5ohms at both 136k an=
d 503k.=20

Happy Christmas to all on LF, and all the best for 2008,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't work first time, so try=20
again...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   titl=
e=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com   href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.c=
om">James Moritz</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 24, 2007 4:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF Antenna Effective height comparison</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,<BR><BR>After do=
ing the=20
"open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have been repeating fiel=
d=20
strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for comparison. The field stren=
gth=20
measurements generally give lower values for ERP than those calculated from=20=
the=20
dimensions of the antenna and the antenna current, which could be interprete=
d as=20
reduced effective height of the antenna due&nbsp; to the screening effect of=
 the=20
environment around the antenna. I did several sets of measurements at 136kHz=
 and=20
503.8kHz with the antenna in 4 different configurations - inverted L about 4=
0m=20
long at nominally 8m and 10m high, and the same wire supported in the middle=
=20
with a telescopic fibreglass mast to make an inverted V with the apex at abo=
ut=20
13m and 15m high. The radiation resistance of each&nbsp;configuration was=20
calculated using NEC-based antenna simulator software, and from this the=20
effective height was calculated. This was compared with a "measured" Heff&nb=
sp;=20
determined by working backwards from the ERP values and the antenna current=20
measurement<BR><BR>The graph in the attachment compares the calculated and=20
measured Heff for the four different antennas ("Winter 2007"). For compariso=
n,=20
the graph also includes results of similar measurements on the 10m inv L and=
 15m=20
inv V made earlier this year ("Summer 2007"), and the 10m inv L "Open field=20
site" measurements done recently. In the current measurements, the measured=20=
Heff=20
for the home QTH antenna is roughly 2m less than the calculated value, with=20=
Heff=20
being slightly lower for 136kHz than 503kHz. The summertime measurements sho=
w a=20
somewhat larger reduction in Heff, and a greater difference between 136k (ab=
out=20
4m reduction in Heff) and 500k (about 3m reduction). As mentioned before, th=
e=20
measured and calculated open-field site antenna results match quite closely.=
 For=20
the 10m inv L, for which all 3 sets of measurements were available, the appa=
rent=20
effective height for essentially the same antenna varies over a range of abo=
ut=20
2:1.<BR><BR>So it looks like a simple approximate way to model the effects o=
f=20
the environment on the radiated signal from the antenna is to subtract a fix=
ed=20
amount from the effective height of the antenna. The amount to be subtracted=
=20
appears to depend on the time of year. Perhaps this is due&nbsp; to the tree=
s=20
shedding their leaves. The cold weather last week when the&nbsp; measurement=
s=20
were made also has the effect of reducing the loss resistance of the antenna=
 -=20
perhaps the freezing conditions also affect the effective height. Also, the=20
reduction in Heff seems to be somewhat frequency dependent, with a greater=20
reduction at lower frequencies. The same was true for 136k/73k measurements=20=
I=20
did a few years back.<BR><BR>I also measured the loss resistance of the 4=20
antenna configurations - Rloss reduces with increasing antenna height. At 50=
3kHz=20
it was 24ohms for the 8m inv L, decreasing to 19ohms for the 15m inv V. At=20
136kHz, it was 66ohms for the 8m inv L, down to 43ohms for the 15m inv V. Th=
ese=20
figures are much larger than the "open field site" antenna, which was about=20
8.5ohms at both 136k and 503k. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Happy Christmas to all on=20=
LF, and=20
all the best for 2008,<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de=20
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At 18:39 09/12/2007, you wrote:
>IS this you Brian?
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>73
>Victor

Yes, I inadvertently started in 90sec mode, later the computer crashed.
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capture who?
henny pa3cpm
73s

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Hello the list,

  Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was supposed 
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73 Warren K2ORS



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Just copied G3WCB on 137.7 kHz in QRSS3.

Captures can be seen here:
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73
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Gm Finbar, LF, MF.

good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 501.3KHz.

till 0730utc readable.
at 0735utc lost the signal.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gm Finbar, LF, MF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>till&nbsp;0730utc readable.</FONT></DIV>
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Victor, Henny, LF,

Thanks for your reports of audible signal. Looks like I will have to brush 
up on my rather poor morse for some 2 ways.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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strong signal,gary and audible
18:30z
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73s 




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Hello Andrej.

nice to see you agn on the band. good activity today, 7stations from 6 
countrys received.
 i hope to work you agn.

73 all the best for 2008 Ed DL2HRE
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> Hello.
>> captured this morning on 137.776KHz in 60sec/dot mode.
>> pse who is it?
> It's me EW6GB.
> 73! Andrej.
> 



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Ok ! TNX

73 J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =E9crit :
> may be DJ8WX
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
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>> Hello Hall ,
>>
>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
>>
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>
>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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WD2XGJ QRT at 02:00 UTC for listening,
ice storm expected no further operation tonight.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Hi Warren,
> Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
> in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
> emitted for a test . The grabber is now ready for you! .......
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> 



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Hi all

UA4WPF start now 137777.2  qrss60

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David,

Audible signal here.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.

  Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage=20=
will be back on.

  ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.

  Merry Christmas

  David


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  <DIV>Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.</DIV>
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Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello,
i had also around 1am utc a good copy of G3XIZ (see attachment).
=20
merry Christmas and a happy new year
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax
Rx: FT-857 and Miniwhip
=20
=20

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gus
Sent: 21 December 2007 01:28
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XIZ


Hello group,
=20
G3XIZ is very strong in SM.
=20
QRG  503,952 kHz..
=20
=20
73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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N  class=3D870084509-21122007>Rx: FT-857 and Miniwhip</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3XIZ is very strong in SM.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi John, LF,

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----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu" <shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
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> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> I've added a few tips to the instructions at http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm 
> .
>
> Thanks to all who reported last night. Hartmut was, of course, the 
> distance champion!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3
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> 




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Dear David, LF Group,

There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to 30MHz=
 or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an issue wi=
th using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work in=
 close proximity to VHF/UHF transmitters, which would be likely to grossly o=
verload the whip preamp without some sort of selectivity at the antenna, so=20=
some kind of  tuned whip or loop might be more appropriate. Another possibil=
ity might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an existing=20=
higher frequency antenna element as the 29MHz receive antenna.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM
  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF

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<DIV>Dear David, LF Group,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to=20
30MHz or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an iss=
ue=20
with using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work=20=
in=20
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overload the whip preamp without some sort of selectivity at the antenna, so=
=20
some kind of&nbsp; tuned whip or loop might be more appropriate. Another=20
possibility might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an=20
existing&nbsp;higher frequency antenna element as the 29MHz receive=20
antenna.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers, Jim Moritz</DIV>
<DIV>73 de M0BMU</DIV>
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  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
  frequencies?</DIV>
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Greetings all

Mal: Maybe your countrymen are busy working Russia on 144 MHz / CW / 
troposcatter this moment (not kidding, wkd GM4ODA/p on the Shetlands,  
OY9JD / Faroe, UA2 .. UT2 yesterday, and these conditions still last today).
Amateur radio at it's best...

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U .

mal schrieb:
> Now its DX time of year acty is vy low, not even this reflector is exciting.
> I suppose its back to hf for excitement, even the satellite business has
> gone.
> Amateur radio could be on the way out.
> Mobile phones, internet skipe are echolink are IN
> FOR SALE
> watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK
> G3KEV
>
>
>
>   



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Dear Wolf, LF

Christmas Greetings "O" copy in Hell at 1245utc. I was visiting relatives
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Thanks Ed and Jean-Pierre for the reports!

I hope Father Christmas has treated all the list members to new longwave rad=
io toys!


73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: dl2hre=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 5:38 AM
  Subject: LF: 137 reception last night


  Hi LF

  agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/lf_=
news.htm

  also good cpy of UA4WPF and RA3YO.

  merry christmas Ed DL2HRE=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Ed and Jean-Pierre for the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture=
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On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 08:56:51PM +0100, Frank Dijkshoorn. wrote:
> I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.

http://spiderbeam.net/

The 18m mast is 219 EUR. Not cheap, but those Spiderbeam masts are a
lot more rugged and stable than anything else I have used so far.

73,
-- 
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night , on Europe/Asia , still much of beacons at the beginning of nigh=
t !
I copied :

DL2HRE
DJ8WX
CT1DRP
G3AQC
RA3YO

Later , on America, just the  watchman of night ( HI ) was seen :

WD2XGJ
(its signal had good moments, in spite of the current low power)

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Mal,

I don=B4t copy any other USA stn here, but I have a very noisy urban site.
This station sent CQ=B4s some minutes ago, but now he is beaconing again.

73 Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jose
  At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
  Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
  mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    OK Mal,=20

    Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measu=
red here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied o=
n the band.

    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





      ----- Original Message -----=20
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      Jose
      Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while f=
or an improvement.
      73 de Mal/g3kev

        ----- Original Message -----=20
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        Hi all,

        Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


        73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don=B4t copy any other USA stn here, but=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This station sent CQ=B4s some minutes ago,=20=
but now he=20
is beaconing again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
  callsign.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at presen=
t on=20
  500</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here=20=
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    The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal f=
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    USA I=B4ve ever copied on the band.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV=
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost=20=
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      Will listen for a while for an improvement.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Lubos!

Yes, it is Finbar testing a very small antenna. 5 metres high with a topload
consisting of an inductance + 4 x 6m top hat wires. He also uses some base
loading on it.

I could copy the callsign by ear during a few 5min periods this evening. The=
 10s
dashes between callsigns stand out well on your FFT and mine looks the same.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo Finbar and ALL!
> I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
> configuration of my program for QRSS3.
>
> GL and 73
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>




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Hello LF,
recently i have terrible qrm  ( almost normal situation in a city 
downtown area and balkony antenna)  though i managed  to get
DI2AG station on my screen in qrss10 mode on 505.090 khz . the attached  
capture   was made at 2305 UTC of dec.29.
may i get a short info about the erp pwr of di2ag  station?

                                                                                      
peter, sq7mpj ( jo91rs)

as we  come to the end of december... i wish a Happy  New Year to all of 
you,  much less environmental  losses, much less  qrm
and definitely much more patience  from your  families  watching and  
'living with'    big  L's ,  kV's ....      :)




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Hi John, Jay, LF,

Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only for 
John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.

I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following, 
quite surprised at the results :-

1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.

Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with 
number 2 setup.

Well done guys.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> Hartmut,
>
> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another schedule 
> on CW.
>
> John A.
>
> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
>>> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
>>> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
>>> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
>>
>> first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
>> waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello.
> captured this morning on 137.776KHz in 60sec/dot mode.
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strong signal 6:15z
henny pa3cpm
73s

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nice signal from UA4WPF nr. the border to Asia!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice signal from UA4WPF nr. the border to=20
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Good morning,
Many thanks for information. Later when the local QRM disappeared i
heard it also with Q5.=20
Signal was then the whole night very good ->
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/gi4dpe_181207.jpg

vy73
Marco
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JN49ax, Rx:FT-857+Miniwhip
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Subject: Re: LF: WG: GI4DPE?

Hello Marco & LF

It sure looks like GI4DPE and at the moment he is repeatedly sending
callsign + 10s dahes on approximately 501.3kHz. I can copy the signals
Q5 by ear here in the better part of the QSB.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

Quoting "Scholz, Marco" <marco.scholz@citi.com>:

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> Sent: Mon Dec 17 21:20:18 2007
> Subject: GI4DPE?
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>  <<gi4dpe_171207.JPG>>
> Hello,
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> i receiving around 501.38 KHz long dashes. Not sure maybe its the=20
> beacon of Finbar GI4DPE?
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> Please see attached file.
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> vy73
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> Marco
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> DD7PC
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> JN49ax
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Lubos,

thank you very much for your report. Looks like a lot of QSB on the signal.


Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO



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  Hallo Geri and all!

  I just captured signal from DI2BO - see on the snapshot.=20

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  Have a nice weekend!

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  Lubos, OK2BVG

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you very much for your report. Looks=20=
like a=20
lot of QSB on the signal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz"=
>Lubom=EDr=20
  Bobal=EDk</A> </DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2007 1=
0:11=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] DI2BO</DIV>
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IZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just captured signal from DI2BO=20
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.4 : F4DTL     ( qrp beacon )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu









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137kHz: Copied WD2XGJ

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Good peaks of the 200W ERP CW signal from WE2XGR/6 02:45-05:30.
WD2XSH/17 QRSS3 copied on 505.23 kHz 23:50-02:53. From the UK copied
G0MRF, G3XIZ and GI4DPE.

Captures can be seen here:
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Hello Michael & LF!

No problem to separate you with IC-718/250Hz filter, but the NRD-91/500Hz+
filter lets you both trough. For condx monitoring it is a good thing to have
you both audible at different pitch.

Good to hear your signals again, now a Q5 copy.

A Merry Christmas to you and all LF!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / Finland


Quoting Michael Probert <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>:

> Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
> memory keyer to include "HYVAA JOULA"
> Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
> My very best wishes to you.
>
> 73
>
> Mike GW4HXO
> __________________________________________________________________________=
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>
> GW4HXO sending repeated x-mas greetings in CW on 501.15kHz, Q3 copy here.
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
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Jim,

Same here, I read your test results with interest.

Thanks for the effort you put into the project.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Jim,
>
> That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...we'll
> all have to move to the country. Are you thinking of writing it up for, 
> say,
> RadCom?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 09 December 2007 13:14
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally 
> expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are 
> in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences 
> within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. 
> Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, 
> which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using 
> a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 
> 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 
> ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The 
> average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The 
> calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 
> 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to 
> the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For 
> the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively 
> high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a 
> coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much 
> better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna 
> in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss 
> resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, 
> the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to 
> the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence 
> in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the 
> resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck 
> with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths 
> of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 




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JT  Modes. 
 
Clock synchronisation can be 'automated' by downloading Dimension 4.
This software resets your PC clock against your choice of online time  
standards.
 
Very handy and very stable.
 
73 and Merry Christmas to all on LF / MF
 
David  G0MRF
 
503.7 QRP  3 mode beacon.  3500 hrs and counting.....
 
 
 
In a message dated 23/12/2007 14:18:48 GMT Standard Time,  
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Hi John,  LF,

Well, this is my first time to give it a try, I did already have  the 
software because the JT6 mode is being used on the 4 metre band (one  of my 
favourite bands). I will try again tonight, if the weather stays  calm I may 
put the vertical up to 12 mtrs (9 at the moment).

I see  that Hartmut decoded a few lines :-







   

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capture ct1drp.
the signal is going up and down.
time 19:43z
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time 19:43z</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Hello  all on LF ,

For better managing the strong signals , I passed the grabber to the
version 2.7b20 of SpectrunLab ( thank you Wolf for this splendid tool )
  I hope for that I did not make errors, that seems to function correctly
until there! one will be fixed tomorrow !

grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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(UA4)WPF was audible last night here in jo43sv. aerial: K9AY loop.
in addition pse see attachment.
has the station been switched off at 0300UTC ?

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To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>, "Ing. Petr Kospach" <kospach@email.cz>
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:52:38 +0100
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Hallo LF!
Transmitter SAQ is ON and it is just tuned up.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello Graham,

the load (=3D loading coil) is at a rather unusual place: at the top of =20
the vertical wire. Or to be exact, one segment below the top.
If you want the load just above the feeding point just change "w1e1" =20
into "w1b1" (=3D one segment from the bottom).

The "trick" with MMANA is that wires only interconnect at their ends, =20
so the correct interconnection between a single vertical wire and =20
multiple horizontal wires is a bit tricky and need an number of short =20
wires.

Regarding earth: any wire at zero height is considered to be grounded. =20
So no need to worry about that.
As mentioned by G3YMC ground(loss) is not taken into account for the =20
impedance conculations. In my opinion this is a good thing, as this =20
allows to calculate the radiation resistance even al low efficiency.
At 136kHz and even at 500kHz it would be hard to calculate the losses =20
as greenery often plays a much larger role the soil. Beyond that the =20
waves penetrate that deep into the soil that only in very few cases =20
you can assume the ground is a uniform layer.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout ..
> I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on
> the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a
> element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it
> .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section ,
> if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the
> earth system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can
> anyone'code' an array ?
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
>> adapted for 500kHz.
>> Maybe that will be of some help.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD
>>
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Hi John,

  Finally a decode! Below in its entirety:
004300  0  -23  1.8 -978  0

   VISTA is FLAKEY with some of the soundcard programs, especially 
SPECTRAN - SPECTRAN NEVER Crashed in WIN XP but crashes all the time in 
VISTA

Happy Christmas,

Warren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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> Warren,
>
> Perhaps there is a Vista issue...maybe some web surfing will turn it up. 
> Thus far nobody else has reported audio source issues in the tests that 
> Jay and I have done.
>
> John A.
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>
>>  Being only 25 miles away, I hear your WSJT signal FB but as far as 
>> decode I get
>> NADA
>
> 



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Hello Mal,

Ok on the 160 m DXing; I wondered where you'd got to.

I'll let Doug G3ZWH know that you're hearing him ok as I don't think he's on the reflector - that should cheer him up.

I have 42 UK stations listed on my '500 kHz OPerators' Spread-Sheet' now but many of the early active chaps seem to have gone QRT.
Maybe they'll re-appear once their Christmas shopping is done !

Seasons greetings and 73,

Chris G3XIZ





mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote: A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.
The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in
English waters, so they say.
g3kev



       
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Hello Mal,<br><br>Ok on the 160 m DXing; I wondered where you'd got to.<br><br>I'll let Doug G3ZWH know that you're hearing him ok as I don't think he's on the reflector - that should cheer him up.<br><br>I have 42 UK stations listed on my '500 kHz OPerators' Spread-Sheet' now but many of the early active chaps seem to have gone QRT.<br>Maybe they'll re-appear once their Christmas shopping is done !<br><br>Seasons greetings and 73,<br><br>Chris G3XIZ<br><br><br><br><br><br><b><i>mal &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.<br>The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in<br>English waters, so they say.<br>g3kev<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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Hallo Graham and ALL!
I was QRV on 500kHz last night, but the conditions were extremly poor
here. Beacons DI2AM and DI2AG are 589 normaly, but last night they were
449 only. Their signals are normaly like very strong white lines on the
screen, but last night were only some dB above the noise. And the noise
was more stronger than some nights before.=20
If the conditions will be normal this night, I am ready for SWL test for
you, Graham. It is interesting for me!

GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Subject: LF: CW 503.2 - QRT 0200 HRS

QRT FROM 0200  HRS

TNX

G ..



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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




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From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ




01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2
,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
> > "=A7=AD=A7=F0=A7=D5=A7=DA =A7=D9=A7=D1 =A7=E2=A7=D1=A7=D2=A7=E0=A7=E4=
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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12
> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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Hello  all on LF ,

The grabber is under tests in this moment! I generate a carrier
on 136320 to test the behavior of Spec Lab to the strong signals.
For information the carrier is to 60 dB with the top of the noise!

grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

CT1DRP
G3AQC
DF6NM
DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

Happy new year to everyone !

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Jean
ur grabber is stuck, not moving also do u have 500 khz facility
mal/g3kev

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Hello  all on LF ,

I have just started my grabber, the antenna is with the QTF 55°
in direction of Asia, I will commutate the antenna with the QTF
285° in direction of America to 21:00 UTC.
grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Im beaconing very low power "DTL" on 137.776.3 QRSS60
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP





   

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LF,

Traces of EW6GB tonight QRSS3 on 137,705. (T copy, the letters G and B
visible. See screenshot).

EW6GB's signal was solid copy on the DL2HRE grabber earlier.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dmitry
Sent: 23 December 2007 14:50
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: ew6gb



> Hi LF
>
> EW6GB CQ 137720 qrss3
>
NW QRSS10

 Dmitry


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.3 : F4DTL     ( qrp beacon , good )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( good )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Dave

     A while back I came across an interesting HF/VHF  active antenna design=
 by the Naval Research  Laboratory which has dual polarization and is intend=
ed for radio astronomy applications:

http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/J03-P.15(0981).pdf

Also check the following paper:
Design and Evaluation of an Active Antenna for a 29-47 MHz Radio Telescope A=
rray
Ellingson, S.W.   Simonetti, J.H.   Patterson, C.D.  =20
Dept. of Electr. & Comput. Eng., Virginia Polytech. Inst. & State Univ.;


This paper appears in: Antennas and Propagation, IEEE Transactions on
Publication Date: March 2007
Volume: 55,  Issue: 3, Part 2
On page(s): 826-831
Location: St. Petersburg, Russia,=20
ISSN: 0018-926X
INSPEC Accession Number: 9357586
Digital Object Identifier: 10.1109/TAP.2007.891866
Posted online: 2007-03-12 12:44:43.0


   Abstract
The eight-meter-wavelength transient array (ETA) is a new radio telescope co=
nsisting of 12 dual-polarized, 38 MHz-resonant dipole elements which are ind=
ividually instrumented, digitized, and analyzed in an attempt to detect rare=
 and as-yet undetected single dispersed pulses believed to be associated wit=
h certain types of astronomical explosions. This paper presents the design a=
nd demonstrated performance of ETA's dipole antennas. An inverted V-shaped d=
esign combined with a simple and inexpensive active balun yields sensitivity=
 which is limited only by the external noise generated by the ubiquitous Gal=
actic synchrotron emission over a range greater than the 27-49 MHz design ra=
nge. The results confirm findings from a recent theoretical analysis, and th=
e techniques described here may have applications in other problems requirin=
g in situ evaluation of large low-frequency antennas=20


Happy Christmas!
Vy 73 Warren



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  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF

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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A while back I came across an interesting=20
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<DIV>Also check the following paper:</DIV><TR><TD>
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on</STRONG></A><BR>Publication Date: March 2007<BR>Volume: 55,&nbsp; <A   hr=
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aced><SPAN   class=3DsectionHeaders>Abstract</SPAN><BR>The eight-meter-wavel=
ength transient=20
array (ETA) is a new radio telescope consisting of 12 dual-polarized, 38=20
MHz-resonant dipole elements which are individually instrumented, digitized,=
 and=20
analyzed in an attempt to detect rare and as-yet undetected single dispersed=
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pulses believed to be associated with certain types of astronomical explosio=
ns.=20
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antennas. An inverted V-shaped design combined with a simple and inexpensive=
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active balun yields sensitivity which is limited only by the external noise=20
generated by the ubiquitous Galactic synchrotron emission over a range great=
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than the 27-49 MHz design range. The results confirm findings from a recent=20
theoretical analysis, and the techniques described here may have application=
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<DIV>Happy Christmas!<BR>Vy 73 Warren</DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 24, 2007 10:=
04=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: E-field probes.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=
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  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
  frequencies?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportuni=
ty=20
  where we could&nbsp;propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a=20
  satellite.&nbsp; However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional=20
  antenna. &nbsp;I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.</=
DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a=
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  decision?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Regards</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Tnx Arnim
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Dr Mal! Ur rprt is nw 559 in jo31 hp on 502,5 Khz !Pse listen on 3533 Khz Vy
73 Arnim DL1EIE

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Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev




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Just captured UA4WPF comming out of noise here in NW UK IO83QP.

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ok, Gary!

I'm waiting.



08.12.07, 23:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi Roman, LF,

> Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about=20

> 2300 utc or a little later.

> Keep watching please.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:34 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500 DFCW

> > Hi Gary & LF!

> >

> >

> >

> > Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

> >

> > QRSS10.

> >

> >

> >

> > Did not copy your signal, Gary.

> >

> > Your TX is off now?

> >

> >

> >

> > 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):

> >

> >

> >

> >> Hi LF,

> >

> >> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> >

> >> Reports welcome.

> >

> >> 73

> >

> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > 73!

> >

> > Roman, RW3ADB

> >

> >

> >=20



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Tnx Lubos for the nice xband qso 502.5/3533 khz a few minutes ago at 2307utc=
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HNY and 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH

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  Unbelievably strong signal now!

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> Hello Hall ,
> Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this frequency ?
> See picture !
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Tnx Henny
73

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> y is ra3yo
>
> henny cpm
> 73s
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
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>
>> Hello Hall ,
>>
>> What is " Y " transmission in DFCW30
>>
>> On 137777.6 at  20:50 utc
>>
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>
>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>
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Hi Gary,

    Thank you for the capture! LF seems to be in pretty good shape!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Warren, LF,
> 
> WD2XGJ captured at 2120utc just comming out of noise.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
>


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Hi Brian, LF,

Captured your signal at 2140utc NW UK IO83QP.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
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> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
> 
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
> 
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
> 
> Reports welcome.
> 
> Brian CT1DRP
> 
> 
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Again aural copy Gary,
503.600 KHz


73
Victor
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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gary - G4WGT
Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 17:20
Aan: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
Onderwerp: LF: 500 G4WGT DFCW


LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hello LF ,

Nothing here last night

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hi Jean-Pierre,
I did see this on your grabber and switched the TX off.
nice monitoring, Jean-Pierre.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> I copy  now :
>
> 136318.0 : DJ8WX ( cover by the signal of CT1DRP )
>
> 136318.0 : CT1DRP ( has prblemes of handling and slipped on 136318 )
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi Warren, LF,

WD2XGJ captured at 2120utc just comming out of noise.

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hello group, 
the PRELIMINARY SUMMARY SWL  REPORT from GRIMETON SAQ is on the official site:
 
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Hello Hall ,
Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this frequency ?
See picture !
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Mike,

Very strong here.
Thanks for "FELIZ NAVIDAD" in Spanish.

Merry Christmas for you and for all the Group.



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----- Original Message -----=20
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> Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
> memory keyer to include "HYVAA JOULA"
> Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
> My very best wishes to you.
>
> 73
>
> Mike GW4HXO
> __________________________________________________________________________=
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>
> GW4HXO sending repeated x-mas greetings in CW on 501.15kHz, Q3 copy here.
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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Ok,

Powers  round the  50/75 mW erp , hard to  get a accurate level
Ae is off set 35 ft top loaded vertical tuned against ground , mode is Cw 5=20
wpm
its been running  about 2 hours.

Tnx

Graham .


----- Original Message -----=20
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Hi Graham!
Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

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73!
Roman, RW3ADB

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Hello all,

Yesterday evening, bellow of band (136.317/136.320) it =93pile up"
one would have been believed on 7 MHz one day of contest !!!
I had much evil with copied the call ! (Laurie breaks my =93hut" here ! HI )

I copy :
G3AQC
DL2HRE
RA3YO
PE1RRF
CT1DRP

In top of band, the faithful friend of night :
WD2XGJ


The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu











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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello Hall ,

What is " Y " transmission in DFCW30

On 137777.6 at  20:50 utc

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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Dear OM,

> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?


73,
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Dear Brian, LF,

CT1DRP good copy at this location. Slight initial frequency drift visible
(see screenshot)


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Brian Rogerson
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Subject: LF: Testing on 136319


Good evening LF enthusiasts,

CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
after rebuilding system at new location.

Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

Reports welcome.

Brian CT1DRP



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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OKi, Graham. m.b. u ar q.r.



some report for 503/505 kHz in Moscow tonight.

http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/ok0emw1/ok0emw.html



Roman





01.12.07, 04:09, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > tnx

> > > Graham ..

> > > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > Hi Graham!

> > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > >  HI All ,

> > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=
=20

> > > > if

> > > > you

> > > > can 'see' it

> > > > Reports welcome

> > > > Tnx

> > > > Graham

> > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

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> > > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

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> Roman, RW3ADB

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

WD2XGJ ( good signal )
F4DTL     ( qrp beacon , good signal )
RA3YO    ( good signal )
PE1RRF    ( good signal not stable )
DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
G3AQC    ( vy vy good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu











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        m0fmt@beeb.net                Date :   Wed 5 Dec 15:40:47 GMT 2007          From :   Lars Kĺlland <sm6nm@telia.com>   Add To Address Book           Subject :   Correction SAQ Christmas transmission.           To :   "Lars Kalland" <lars.kalland@telia.com>                      Previous     Next     Printer Friendly Version                                             [input]   Put in Folder... Inbox Draft Sent Trash 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8                        
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Jay and Lubos,

thank you for the friendly words.

> That´s fine, that I can read some MW info from you, after so long time.
> I hope, your informations about receiving on 500kHz will be continue. 

I hope so, too. There was only little activity from EU the past days.


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Grattis Bernt! Kul att du f=E5tt upp farten p=E5 600m!

K=F6rde du med DDS:en fr=E5n Dalsj=F6fors?

H=F6r av dig n=E5'n dag s=E5 skall jag fixa ett nytt program
med en b=E4ttre "splash screen" p=E5 displayen... Det =E4r
kanske dags f=F6r n=E5got som gasar mindre i vakuum =E4n
"Gummimannen" ;-)

72
Johan SM6LKM

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Gus skrev:
> Hello group,
> =20
> today i was in QSO with AA1A on 505 kHz, 5760 KM.
> =20
> http://500kc.com/W0RPK_report.htm
> =20
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Ah Ok, Rik,

Well my loading coil is also at the top of the vertical section , so  looks 
like your array is very similar, i found the layout to  work very well on 
500 , the vertical section and the capacity section are in a cleare location 
, the far end being attached to  the house ... Ill try altering the 
inductance .....

The ground system , i think will play a part using the system on the higher 
bands , it would be intresting to  see what is 'happeing' to  the  v/h on 
1.8 and 3.5 ..

I can re-arrange the top section into a phase cancelling section , with 3 
wires , feeding  the center section with the returns via the outer section

Note the comments on earth system at lf , its the affect of the wires at 
higher fequencys that was behind trying to  model the array as its 
performance falls off sharply over 5 mhz ... may be it turns into a faraday 
cage ?

Tnx

Graham ..



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'an 
array ?


Hello Graham,

the load (= loading coil) is at a rather unusual place: at the top of
the vertical wire. Or to be exact, one segment below the top.
If you want the load just above the feeding point just change "w1e1"
into "w1b1" (= one segment from the bottom).

The "trick" with MMANA is that wires only interconnect at their ends,
so the correct interconnection between a single vertical wire and
multiple horizontal wires is a bit tricky and need an number of short
wires.

Regarding earth: any wire at zero height is considered to be grounded.
So no need to worry about that.
As mentioned by G3YMC ground(loss) is not taken into account for the
impedance conculations. In my opinion this is a good thing, as this
allows to calculate the radiation resistance even al low efficiency.
At 136kHz and even at 500kHz it would be hard to calculate the losses
as greenery often plays a much larger role the soil. Beyond that the
waves penetrate that deep into the soil that only in very few cases
you can assume the ground is a uniform layer.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout ..
> I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on
> the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a
> element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it
> .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section ,
> if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the
> earth system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" 
> <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can
> anyone'code' an array ?
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
>> adapted for 500kHz.
>> Maybe that will be of some help.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Henny,,

 Thank you for the capture!
Very merrry Christmas to you!

73 Warren

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:32 AM
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  capture wd2xgj
  time 02:40z
  henny pa3cpm
  mxmas

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Hi Jay
Will pass this info to Jack/VE1ZZ on cw next time we work. I do not think he=
 is on email.
I am currently concentrating on 160m catching up with old friends across the=
 globe. Look for me if u work 160. Mostly CW.


73 de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:39 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Mal

  Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio=
 operators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack a=
nd other interested parties. Tnx.

  Jay =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: g3kev=20
    To: rsgb=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
    Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


    Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of=20=
USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3=
533 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 a=
nd DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possi=
ble.=20
    He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp=20=
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
    For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity fo=
r a qso.
    73 de Mal/G3KEV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will pass this info to Jack/VE1ZZ on cw nex=
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we work. I do not think he is on email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am currently concentrating on 160m catchi=
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with old friends across the globe. Look for me if u work 160.=20
Mostly&nbsp;CW.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neither the XSH or XGR&nbsp;500 kHz stati=
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  are&nbsp;licensed to work amateur radio operators crossband at present.=20
  Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and other interested parties.=20
  Tnx.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">g3k=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 200=
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    12:24 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160=
m cw=20
    that he was hearing lots of USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS=20
    and&nbsp;would like to&nbsp;work them xband on 3533 khz if they would li=
sten=20
    for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and DI2 stns at good stren=
gth=20
    and would like to work them also&nbsp;xband if possible. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I e=
xpect=20
    this is because of the qrp situation, Condx have to be exceptional for U=
K=20
    stns to be heard in VE or W.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>For those stns not yet&nbsp;permitted o=
n 500=20
    xband is the only oppertunity for a qso.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello group, my beacon start now on 137776.4 QRSS60 with re-tuning of my =20
variometer this afternoon but always very low power this evening.
=20
Monitoring via F1AFJ's grabber  _http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm=
_=20
(http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm)=20
=20

10  meters vertical antenna with 7 mH loading coil (400mm) and 550 mH=20
variometer  Litz wire.
Transmitter home made pushpull 4X IRFP450 on a M0BMU  description for P.A.
Some =B5W only ERP estimated but not measured.
=20
=20
Reports are welcome
F4DTL in JN18FP




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01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):



> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.



Nothing yet, Graham -(





> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > tnx

> > Graham ..

> > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > Hi Graham!

> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > >  HI All ,

> > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , i=
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> > > you

> > > can 'see' it

> > > Reports welcome

> > > Tnx

> > > Graham

> > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> --

> 73!

> Roman, RW3ADB

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Reflector seems to work, Merry Xmas to Mal!   73 Reino, OH7OL.
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> Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
> G3KEV
> 


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Hello LFers,

Wishing all of my friends "across the pond" the very best
of the season.  I hope Santa treated all of you with some
new toys to play with!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
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Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM CW
i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Hi JP,

Thank-you for the report.
Joe

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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Hi all LF's
   
  Yep good signal as usual. Thanks Lars.
   
  Seasons greetings to all.
   
  petefmt

Lubomír Bobalík <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:
        
            Hallo LF!
  Transmitter SAQ is ON and it is just tuned up.
   
  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS



       
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<div>Hi all LF's</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Yep good signal as usual. Thanks Lars.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Seasons greetings to all.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>Lubomír Bobalík &lt;lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId>  <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator>  <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C8460A.5185CE40" rel=File-List>  <STYLE>  <!--   /* Style Definitions */   p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal   {mso-style-parent:"";   margin:0cm;   margin-bottom:.0001pt;   mso-pagination:widow-orphan;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";   mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}  a:link, span.MsoHyperlink   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;   text-underline:single;}  a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed  
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Gary.
The FT 847 is good on 500 khz with a good antenna. I have one here but the
Datong UC/1 upconverter IF 144 and 28 mhz fed into the ICOM 746 is better.
Those using the mini whip are doing well but it is no substitute for a real
antenna like a 1/4 wave or large loop if you have the space and a quiet
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73 Mal/G3KEV


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> Hi John, Jay, LF,
>
> Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only
for
> John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.
>
> I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following,
> quite surprised at the results :-
>
> 1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
> 2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.
>
> Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with
> number 2 setup.
>

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Jean-Pierre, Willem,

     Thanks for the report and captures!

>WD2XGJ ( good , audible  qsb short time  ! )

OK! I will work on a more pwerful amplifier -- QRO !

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Hello  Warren ,  Brian and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( good , audible , qsb short time  ! )
CT1DRP    ( vy good , audible ! )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello  Warren  ,

Enormous signal in this moment! =85.  If I had your TX and ant, and you my R=
X, one will be able to make qso every evening!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





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Yes, Mal, It was very nice QSO! Your signal was fine, becouse there is
no QRN on the band now.
=20
73 and TNX for this contact!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:12 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] DI2BO once more
=20
Tnx Lubos for the nice xband qso 502.5/3533 khz a few minutes ago at
2307utc 27/12/07
HNY and 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> =20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more
=20
Unbelievably strong signal now!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, Mal, It was very n=
ice QSO! Your
signal was fine, becouse there is no QRN on the band now.<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73 and TNX for this con=
tact!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
******<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 28, 20=
07
12:12 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500] DI2BO=20=
once
more</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tnx Lubos for the nice=
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502.5/3533 khz a few minutes ago at 2307utc 27/12/07</span></font><o:p></o:p=
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style=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bo=
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0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" tit=
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nt:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
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DI2BO once more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
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Thanks to Piotr, Paul-Henrik, Jose Manuel, and Dave AA1A for the reports on 
SM6BHZ!

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> Hi Warrren, LF
> sm6bhz is on air now.  pse , see attached   cut-off from spectran taken
> at 2117 UTC  - just few minutes ago
> but i think he slightly went up on frequency.  now it is 505.105 kHz
> while my  previous  'recordings'   show 505.1
>                    73, peter,  sq7mpj    (jo91rs)
>
> 



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> Hi LF
> 
> EW6GB CQ 137720 qrss3
> 
NW QRSS10

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Hello Chris ,
The transmission is identified it acts of F6BIR in test, thank you .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Chris Trayner a =E9crit :
> Dear OM,
>
>  =20
>> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
>>    =20
> 20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
>
> Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?
>
>
> 73,
> Chris G4OKW
>
>  =20

--=20
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Good T/A conditions last night. Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW along with the
QRSS signal. Strong CW peaks from WE2XGR/6 on 503.7 kHz. Traces of
the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 were only visible for about
20 minutes.
Nice copy of the JT2 signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/3. Best around
02:45 UTC.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hallo Geri!
That=B4s fine, thanks for this information!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG
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***********************************************
=20
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
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Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air
=20
Hello YLs and OMs,,
=20
DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day,
later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it
can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20
=20
Looking forward to your reception report.=20
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hallo Geri!<o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That=B4s fine, thanks f=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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************************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Holger 'Geri=
', DK8KW<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 01, 20=
02
3:14 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO=20=
is
back on the air</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Hello
YLs and OMs,,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>DI2BO
is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. For the ti=
me
being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later this year I
will swith to the &quot;beacon on demand&quot;-mode so that it can be switch=
ed
on automatically by calling a telephone number. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Looking
forward to your reception report. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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DK8KW / DI2BO<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Ed,
  Thanks for the report!
Happy Christmas!

vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: dl2hre=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:12 AM
  Subject: LF: XGJ cpy in jo51


  Hi Waren LF.

  yesterday at 23utc nice cpy of XGJ, it started at 2245utc with full "XGJ".=
 no picture made sri.

  73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Thanks for the report!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Happy Christmas!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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jose -

I don't know, not being anywhere near the actual site.  However, I've
forwarded this to Keith G0WYS who should be able to tell you all you
need to know...

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt




On 02/12/2007, Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz, i=
s
> fully horizontal?
>
> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
>
>

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01.12.07, 05:47, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):



> Look my report on the web, pse.

> I copy signal on 503.2 at 5.01 mks=2.01z



(/mistaken, sorry!)!



> May be it was you b4 off the TX?



Look on the shoot, pse.

503.12 kHz it was a NDB beacon here?!





> 01.12.07, 04:52, Graham 



(g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > QRT FROM 0200  HRS

> > TNX

> > G ..

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:09 AM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> > G ..

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> > Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > > tnx

> > > > Graham ..

> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > > Hi Graham!

> > > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > > >  HI All ,

> > > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , 

> > > > > if

> > > > > you

> > > > > can 'see' it

> > > > > Reports welcome

> > > > > Tnx

> > > > > Graham

> > > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > > --

> > > > 73!

> > > > Roman, RW3ADB

> > > > "ěŔÄÉ ÚÁ ŇÁÂĎÔĎĘ": îĎ×ŮĘ ËĎÎËŐŇÓ ÎÁ ńÎÄĹËÓ.ćĎÔËÁČ

> > > > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=12

> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

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> > > http://cards.yandex.ru/subscribe.xml

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> > Roman, RW3ADB

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Hi Warrren, LF
sm6bhz is on air now.  pse , see attached   cut-off from spectran taken 
at 2117 UTC  - just few minutes ago
but i think he slightly went up on frequency.  now it is 505.105 kHz 
while my  previous  'recordings'   show 505.1
                    73, peter,  sq7mpj    (jo91rs)


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Good copy of S57A this evening at 2000z on 137,705 kHz. Screenshot attached.

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( Well in spite of the small power )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( Nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( Nil )
136318.0 : DJ8WX    (Good )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( Nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( ???????? )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu








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Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of USA 
stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3533 
khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and 
DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if 
possible.
He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp 
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity for a 
qso.
73 de Mal/G3KEV


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw=
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I inly could monitor the band some ten minutes, between 2:55 and 3:05UTC, li=
stening good audible signals again from Bob, WE2XGR/6, until 03:00, but then=
 perhaps he went QRT?.
No other station copied here in this short time interval.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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Dear LF Group,

The beacon on 189.9496 kHz is back on the air:  QRSS60 at 2 minutes
past each quarter hour to avoid any potential for interference
with the reception experiments with GB3SSS.

Any reports will be gratefully received.

73
Joe VO1NA




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Warren,

Gus is transmitting now on 505.1.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX



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> Hello the list,
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>  Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was=20
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> 73 Warren K2ORS
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Hi LF,

Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using=
 an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design par=
ameters for the network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency=20=
502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1  38=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2  84=C2=B5H, C1 cons=
ists of a 3.3nF fixed capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor i=
n the drain. I have tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal,=
 and with a 3v rms signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w=
 into a Marconi TF1152A/1 (50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when=
 12v is removed from the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjust=
ed for maximum power output, but is never the same position twice, and there=
 seems to be a very critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output=
, b) anything that looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right=
 there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wr=
ong?=20

=20

My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com

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73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV

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=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Has anyone experienced problems us=
ing an IRF530N in a
500kHz PA?. I am using an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L =C2=A0ou=
tput network the design
parameters for the network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequen=
cy
502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1 =C2=A038=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2 =C2=A084=C2=
=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF
fixed capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I h=
ave
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi TF1=
152A/1
(50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from the P=
A and
reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power output, but=
 is
never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very critical adjustm=
ent
of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that looks like a sine wav=
e, although
when I have got it right there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as=
 to
what may be going wrong? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.

Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his new TX.
I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.

I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I try RTTY.
Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.

I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.

There's a new man: G0BBL,  Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so listen for him.
Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.

Chris G3XIZ

mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote: All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
Mal/G3KEV



       
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Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.<br><br>Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his new TX.<br>I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.<br><br>I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I try RTTY.<br>Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.<br><br>I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.<br><br>There's a new man: G0BBL,&nbsp; Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so listen for him.<br>Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.<br><br>Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>mal &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.<br>Mal/G3KEV<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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LF, Nicolas,

Nothing seen at this QTH, I'm afraid. Pehaps you need to add some
top-loading to your antenna!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
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  Hello group, my beacon start now on 137776.4 QRSS60 with re-tuning of my
variometer this afternoon but always very low power this evening.

  Monitoring via F1AFJ's grabber
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm


  10 meters vertical antenna with 7 mH loading coil (400mm) and 550 mH
variometer Litz wire.
  Transmitter home made pushpull 4X IRFP450 on a M0BMU description for P.A.
  Some ľW only ERP estimated but not measured.


  Reports are welcome
  F4DTL in JN18FP

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Hi Roman, LF,

Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about 
2300 utc or a little later.

Keep watching please.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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> Hi Gary & LF!
>
>
>
> Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.
>
> QRSS10.
>
>
>
> Did not copy your signal, Gary.
>
> Your TX is off now?
>
>
>
> 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):
>
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>
>> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.
>
>> Reports welcome.
>
>> 73
>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> --
>
> 73!
>
> Roman, RW3ADB
>
>
> 




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Was looking for Brian CT1DRP this morning but weve had really foul weather h=
ere and still pretty noisy from Tstorms. After 22 mins after dawn I took an=20=
audible swing around and DCF39 and Budapest were on their way down  instreng=
th but that 50 baud RTTY (?) station on=20
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Hi all,

I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
The mast I used nouw is a 12.5 Meter from zk-antennen.de=20

I remember that there was some discussion about this new mast on the refecto=
r.
At that time I looked, only it was verry expensif.

Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in Japan.

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Hello  Warren ,  Brian and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( good , audible , qsb short time  ! )
CT1DRP    ( vy good , audible ! )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hi Graham, I think if you are hoping to get a handle on the effect of an
elevated loading coil you are in for a disappointment, you can calculate the
(small) increase in Rrad this gives. The problem is the one illuminated by
Jim's recent experiments....the effect of the surrounding environment. As I
understand it an elevated loading coil would give no real advantages in
Jim's open field situation. However its effect is to change the current
distribution on the radiating section, and this is the bit where any
coupling to surrounding "environment" leads to big losses. The effect of the
elevated coil is to reduce the voltage on the radiating section thus
reducing the current diverted throught the couple capacitance into the lossy
surroundings (voltage times loss reactance....reducing the voltage, reduces
the current diverted from flowing through all the distributed Rrad).

Sadly, like the effect of the top capacitance reducing the ground loss,
these environmental effects are not modelled.....and a simulator is only as
good as the model and the equations used. Hint for a mathematically minded
amateur !!

As an aside Jim's measurements disprove my idea that the "shortfall" in
measured ERP over the calculated value, was due to poor ground causing more
radiation of the signal upward from a "small" aerial (HFC 2007). It would
seem from Jim's tests that it is purely an "environment loss thing". An
ounce of measurement is worth a ton of theory (half baked or otherwise !)

Cheers and HNY de Alan G3NYK


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> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I
> see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae
is
> it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could
> be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you
> could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if
i
> could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth
> system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'
an
> array ?
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> > attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> > adapted for 500kHz.
> > Maybe that will be of some help.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
> >
> > Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> >
> >> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> >> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> >> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet
!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> >> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> >> parallel 2 wire section ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tnx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> G0NBD
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> >
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Hi LF

agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/lf_ne=
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also good cpy of UA4WPF and RA3YO.

merry christmas Ed DL2HRE=20

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Hi Jim, that is a very interesting comparison. I estimated the effective
height of my inverted L by extrapolating Dick's (PA0SE) field strength
measurements for DCF39 and got a figure of 6m for my 9m high aerial. The
vertical is pulled away from the gable end of the house by about 6 to 8
feet, and the top wire goes over several 12foot hight fruit trees and
alongside some 50 foot Eucalyptus for a short distance. The deficit is
amazingly similar to your findings. One thing that is nice to note is that
the extra loss for increasing the height is not proportional, so that there
is a good amount to be gained (as we found) by increasing the height of a
aerial, even in a lossy location. The effective height did not depend on the
amount of top-load capacitance (the minimum length was 30m) but the measured
loss resistance (RF Bridge) reduced considerably as I went from 250pF (30m
top-wire) to 850pF.(150m)

One question that may be pertinent ....how do the heights of the
trees/environment compare with the physical aerial height? I am wondering
whether the loss, which might be considered as fraction of the power,
capacitively coupled to a loss resistor, is mostly from the lower part of
the vertical. This would make sense because any current flowing in the top
wire does not materially add to the radiated signal and current diverted
from "just above the loading coil" cannot flow throught the rest of the
distributed (along the vertical leg) radiation resistance. This might help
explain the effective-height deficit only increasing slowly with increase in
physical height

Great Work
Happy Christmas
Alan G3NYK

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Dear LF Group,

After doing the "open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have
been repeating field strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for
comparison.
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Gary,

I'm still pretty green at this, but it looks like there just wasn't 
enough signal. The "*" at the end of the line indicates a lock, but the 
message decoding is an all or nothing process. If there is any error, 
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I'm going to play locally with this some more today, and may be able to 
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John Andrews, W1TAG

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Hello the list,
   There are now pictures of Finbar GI4DPE's 500 kHz station on the Lowfer 
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http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php
Under the 600 meter section.

Enjoy!
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for running the grabber (which I frequently visited in the past 
weeks).
I don't think that the dynamic range of the spectrum display in SpecLab 
has changed that much,
but there may be some points to consider:

- use one of the FFT windows with a large stopband attenuation.
There is a nice comparison of different FFT windows here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_function

( -> the "Hann" window is ok, but avoid the "Rectangular" window).

- reduce the soundcard volume (if you use a soundcard for input) so the 
maximum peak level stays at least 6 dB below the clipping level (use one 
of the "monitor scopes" to see this).

- the noiseblanker may help to reduce the effect of "dog-boning" if the 
strong signal uses hard on/off-keying (quite likely for class-C amplifiers).

Besides that, V2.71 "beta 3" is available, but I wouldn't recommend it 
for unattended operation because it is not thoroughly tested (yet). 
Murphy will make sure it will crash only after something interesting 
appeared on the screen ;-)

All the best for 2008 to everyone,
  Cheers, 
      Wolf .



Jean-Pierre Méré schrieb:
> Hello  all on LF ,
>
> For better managing the strong signals , I passed the grabber to the
> version 2.7b20 of SpectrunLab ( thank you Wolf for this splendid tool )
>  I hope for that I did not make errors, that seems to function correctly
> until there! one will be fixed tomorrow !
>
> grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



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Ok Jim,

Looks like the /P qth  is at  IO91WR ?, or very close , Intresting signal=20
last night as the very little qsb , fine on the rain, well at least the=20
ground was constantly damp .. I find, if i have a shower of rain, i have to=20
re-tune ....

If your going to  run on 137 assume you are mains powerd ?

Graham .




----- Original Message -----=20
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: Re: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8


> Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the
> programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The=20
> 1/2-space
> DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient=20
> for
> field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier.
>
> Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an=20
> "open
> field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna,
> which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the
> effect of the site on antenna performance.  The /P location is near=20
> Newgate
> Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and=20
> really
> is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain
> keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the=20
> pictures
> of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago!
>
> A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance
> measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to=20
> be
> close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss
> resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5
> ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as
> my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly
> identical.
>
> Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna=20
> on
> 136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results=20
> by
> the weekend.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:58 PM
> Subject: LF: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8
>
>
>>
>> Hallo Mike and All!
>> I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
>> signal is growing stronger.
>>
>> 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>>
>
>
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Hello all, im beaconing QRP now on 136.3198 with TEST F4DTL.
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Hi All,
Now transmitting on 136,319.5kHz to avoid possible Loran at 320.
QRSS 90sec dots.
73 Laurie

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Hi All,<br>Now transmitting on 136,319.5kHz to avoid possible Loran at 320.<br>QRSS 90sec dots.<br>73 Laurie <br>

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Hi all
Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
qsb. Rx not calibrated.
Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007

Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH


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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong a short moment )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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137kHz: Copied UA4WPF on 137.7772 kHz last night. Only poor copy of
S57A on 137.7 because my antenna was directed in the opposite
direction.

Captures of UA4WPF can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500kHz: Brief copy of WD2XSH/17 about 23:45 UTC in QRSS3 on
505.259kHz. Only faint traces from WD2XSH/6 about 04:35 in QRSS3 on
505.266 kHz. Excellent copy of the WOLF20 transmission from WE2XGR/3
on 508.5 kHz 23:50-03:30.

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137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
strong peaks.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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GB3SSS from Poldhu, Cornwall, is back again for a few months.  Only
this time it is transmitting on 3597.0kHz, for 80m Transatlantic
propagation tests over the winter months.

Transmissions are every 15 minutes, starting on the 00/15/30/45 minute
interval and use the same format as the 1.96MHz beacon last year, ie
callsign followed by two sets of 6dB power steps, then a PSK31 message
starting at the 30 second boundary.

The 5MHz beacon monitoring software available from :

http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacon%20monitoring.htm

can be used to automatically log this beacon, which appears on the red
trace as if it were GB3RAL.

-- 
Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


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Happy Christmas and Season's greetings to LF and MF enthusiasts everwhere!
May your radiated EIRPs be equal to your calculated EIRPs, and all your
toroids be large ones!

73 de Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England

(G3WCB is currently in XMAS beacon mode 9WPM and QRSS3 on 503.850 until I
can sneak away from the family festivities!)



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Hello LFers,

Wishing all of my friends "across the pond" the very best
of the season.  I hope Santa treated all of you with some
new toys to play with!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle







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Jay, Mal,

    Received a QSL card today from Jack VE1ZZ. Jack apparently confused me w=
ith WD2XSH/17, but also reports hearing WE2XGR/1, WE2XGR/2, WE2XGR/6 etc.=20

  More detals and pictures of the QSL are online at:
http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D505#post505

73 Warren K2ORS (& etc)
             =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:39 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Mal

  Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio=
 operators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack a=
nd other interested parties. Tnx.

  Jay =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: g3kev=20
    To: rsgb=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
    Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


    Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of=20=
USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 3=
533 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 a=
nd DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possi=
ble.=20
    He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp=20=
situation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
    For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity fo=
r a qso.
    73 de Mal/G3KEV

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay, Mal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Received a QSL card toda=
y from=20
Jack VE1ZZ. Jack apparently confused me with WD2XSH/17, but also reports hea=
ring=20
WE2XGR/1, WE2XGR/2, WE2XGR/6 etc. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; More detals and pictures of the QSL=20=
are=20
online at:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/for=
ums/showthread.php?p=3D505#post505">http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showth=
read.php?p=3D505#post505</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS (&amp; etc)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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=20
  Rusgrove</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 2007=20=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neither the XSH or XGR&nbsp;500 kHz stati=
ons=20
  are&nbsp;licensed to work amateur radio operators crossband at present.=20
  Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and other interested parties.=20
  Tnx.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">g3k=
ev</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A>=
 </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 200=
7=20
    12:24 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: VE3ZZ XBAND</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160=
m cw=20
    that he was hearing lots of USA stns on 500 khz as far away as MS=20
    and&nbsp;would like to&nbsp;work them xband on 3533 khz if they would li=
sten=20
    for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and DI2 stns at good stren=
gth=20
    and would like to work them also&nbsp;xband if possible. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I e=
xpect=20
    this is because of the qrp situation, Condx have to be exceptional for U=
K=20
    stns to be heard in VE or W.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>For those stns not yet&nbsp;permitted o=
n 500=20
    xband is the only oppertunity for a qso.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello John,

thanks for putting up your grabber on the internet.

I am currently observing DI2BO's signal in comparison to other signals on th
air. It is intersting to see how big the QSB can be from one minute to the
other. DI2AM seems to be stable throughout the day, DI2BO's signal with much
less ERP (my best guess is in the 100 mW range with a 1 Ampere antenna
current) can only be seen from time to time, but sometimes it comes up
almost as strong as DI2AM.

The distance is around 1100 km.

Again, thanks for providing this service. Best 73 and a Merry Christmas!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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> RA9CUA beacon 137778.4 adfcw60
> Dmitry
 
Copied RA9CUA here 20:00-22:00. Until 21:00 the upper part of the DFCW
signal was very close to the Sylt Loran line on 137.78374 kHz.

A captures can be seen here:
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Hartmut
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Jose
Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an=20=
improvement.
73 de Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi all,

  Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DL2HRE
CT1DRP
F6BIR ( in test)

WD2XGJ

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Jean-Pierre,
  Thanks for the report!
WD2XGJ on low power for a few more days.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello  all on LF ,
> 
> Last night i copy  :
> 
> 137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
> 137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
> 137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
> 136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
> 136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
> 136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> -- 
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Hello Uwe and LF ,

I copy your beacon now ! what your conditions please ?

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Henny,
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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Jean-Pierre,
  Thank you!
Warren

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> Hi Warren,
> Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
> in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
> emitted for a test . The grabber is now ready for you! .......
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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> 



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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Sry nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hi Ed, groop
> 
> nice signal of UA4WPF, may be also traces of RA9CUA??? pse cfm.

cfm - RA9CUA
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

Dmitry






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Jim,

   Interesting treatise on short antennas and the non-propagating 
"evanescent" modes that couple in to surrounding objects on AB2EZ's web 
page:

"Typically, the evanescent modes interact with nearby objects, such as the 
ground, buildings, trees, etc. The evanescent mode fields produce currents 
in these objects. which will be converted to heat unless the objects are 
perfect conductors. Evanescent modes can also produce magnetic fields in 
objects which also produce heat through hysteresis effects.
The shorter the antenna is compared to a wavelength, the larger the strength 
of the non-propagating, evanescent field near the antenna (the sum of the 
propagating and the non-propagating fields is often referred to as the "near 
field" of the antenna), compared to the strength of the propagating field 
near the antenna. and thus the larger the percentage of power that is 
converted to heat by losses associated with the evanescent modes."

http://mysite.verizon.net/sdp2/id21.html


73 Warren K2ORS


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>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the comments...
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>
>> Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field
>> strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are
> indeed
>> very close.
>
> I have just re-calculated the ERP based on values of Rrad obtained using a
> NEC-based antenna simulator (MMANA-GAL). This should give a more accurate
> value of Rrad than the simple formulas based on capacitance, because a 
> more
> complicated geometry can be modelled, and the interaction of the fields of
> the horizontal and vertical parts of the antenna will be accounted for. 
> This
> resulted in slightly higher values of Rrad, and slightly higher expected
> ERP. This gave even better agreement between calculated and measured ERP 
> at
> the open-field site - at 136k the measured ERP is now +0.3dB on the
> calculate value, and at 503k it is -0.1dB. This is probably well within 
> the
> likely measurement uncertainties.
>
> G3NYK wrote:
>
>> I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and
> the
>> environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
>> capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all
> of
>> the distributed Rrad.
>
> I think this ties up with the "tree current" experiment I did some months
> back - it was clear then that, especially on 136k, a substantial 
> proportion
> of the antenna current was returning to ground through the trees near the
> antenna. In the far field, the total radiation would be a function of the
> superposition of the currents flowing "up" the antenna and "down" the
> trees - the bigger the trees, and the more current flowing in them, the 
> more
> they would tend to cancel the radiation from the antenna. The measurements
> of the "tree current" were very rough, but at 500kHz it appeared that the
> currents were a smaller fraction of the antenna current, which would tie 
> up
> with the smaller observed reduction in Rrad at 500kHz.
>
> G3YMC wrote:
>
>> What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in
>> the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the
>> open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics
>> rather than solely due to the surrounding trees.
>
> The ground was probably as similar as it is possible to be at two separate
> locations - the open field site was only about 4km from my home QTH, and
> geographically part of the same landscape. The soil in both places is a
> heavy clay that is waterlogged at this time of year. If anything, the 
> ground
> was wetter at the /P location, because my QTH is on a slope and relatively
> well drained, but I generally find that wetter conditions lead to higher
> loss resistance. It would certainly be interesting to see how the type of
> ground afffects loss resistance, but it would probably be quite hard to 
> find
> a suitable selection of sites.
>
> G3LDO wrote:
>
>> At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my
>> garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet.
>
> At my QTH, over the period I have been making antenna measurements, the
> antenna has stayed basically the same, but the surrounding trees have 
> grown
> quite a bit larger. During this time, the apparent Rrad has decreased to
> about half of its initial value, and Rloss has increased by around 50%.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> 



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Hi Dave

I think it was UA4WPF  on 137777.2

Dmitry


>Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc
>this
>evening. Screenshot attached.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Brian

Reception continued through the night at a similar level to the earler capture...with the usual
periods of fading and no copy. Fade out was at 0300Z.

What is the new antenna and power level?

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WER2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
> Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
> who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>
> My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
> than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
> on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>
> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.
>
> For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site
> http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>
> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
> At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
> >Good evening LF enthusiasts,
> >
> >CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> >after rebuilding system at new location.
> >
> >Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
> >
> >Reports welcome.
> >
> >Brian CT1DRP
> >
>
>
>



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Dear Dave, Gary, Jay, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments - Yes, with a bit more work I hope to convert this
into a publishable article.

As far as achieving the "legal limit" ERP goes, the UK licence regulations
for 136k and 500k don't currently specify a TX power limit, just an ERP of
1W and 100mW respectively. How you determine the ERP isn't specified either,
although for the 500k Special Research Permit you are required to explain
how you intend to achieve compliance. So in principle you can just turn up
the power until the limit is achieved. This is easily done on 500kHz (about
9W needed for the home QTH antenna, against 1.5W for the open field antenna
to get 100mW ERP), but not really feasible on 136k, which would need only a
few hundred watts for 1W ERP with the open field antenna, but 4 - 5 kW for
the home QTH antenna, which would probably suffer breakdown of some form
before this level was reached.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Mal & LF

You are a honest 579 here in Vaasa at 17.18UTC calling CQ on 502.5kHz

No HF TX available here at the moment.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> Hi all
> Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of act=
y.
> The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
> I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
>




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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Testing on 136319



> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.




Brian, as was to be expected, the strongest ham signal I=B4ve ever heard her=
e=20
on the band.

73, Jos=E9, EA1PX.....180 km away


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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
WD2XGJ ran 1.5kW last night (short transmission).

WD2XGJ will run QRP (250 Watts) for the rest of 2007.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:14 AM
Subject: LF: [137] last night


Hello all,

Yesterday evening, bellow of band (136.317/136.320) it pile up"
one would have been believed on 7 MHz one day of contest !!!
I had much evil with copied the call ! (Laurie breaks my hut" here ! HI )

I copy :
G3AQC
DL2HRE
RA3YO
PE1RRF
CT1DRP

In top of band, the faithful friend of night :
WD2XGJ


The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu













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Hi Markus,

Thanks for that explanation, that must be the reason why I was seeing 
additional lines. All is normal from yesterday (30th).

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Hi Gary, LF,

according to my 100 kHz monitor, Anthorn Loran came on the Lessay chain rate 
(GRI 6731) yesterday 10:25 UT. After some adjustments of the transmission 
delay, they reached their "final parking position" in the old Rugby slot 
(27.3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. The sideband lines should now be on 
the usual frequencies, i.e. exact multiples of 100 kHz / 6731 / 2.

The time-domain graph was recorded 2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 
(top), using 22050 samples/s (left to right) and phase encoded as colour.

Best wishes to all

Markus, DF6NM





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn


> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran
> Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not
> shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen.
>
> My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would
> have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the
> same lines but stronger.
>
> Any comments please.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>



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> not even this reflector is exciting.
> even the satellite business has gone.
> Amateur radio could be on the way out.
> watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK

Mal, it's nice to see you more positive than usual.

VE7SL


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pse give time and qrg of 500 khz stns

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 20/21 Dec


> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
> UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
> strong peaks.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
> Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
>


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Victor, LF,

Thank you for the report, looks strong on the capture.

Antenna is 9 metres vertical with elevated inductance & small capacity top 
load & ERP is 100 mW .

The weather is wet, wild & windy, I am keeping an eye on the antennas here.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Good signal Gary,
>
> 73
> PA3FNY
> JO22NC 




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Jean-Pierre,

  Your grabber is an excellent service to the LF community, thank you!
The European window at 136.318 will let North American amateurs know when th=
ere is European activity to look for.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi Warren ,

  K2ORS a =E9crit :=20
    WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05 U=
TC!
    Sunset here 21:12 UTC.
  Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset
  (in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test
  for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it  ;-)  =20

  73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG a=
nd
call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD" after
some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.

Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.

Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if you
will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural co=
py
should be possible.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Dear LF Group,

I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
week - this is a summary of the results.

The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
should have quite high conductivity.

I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
600k.

Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.

Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%

Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
82mW,
difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%

Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%

Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%

So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
surrounding trees and buildings.

The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!

The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
reasonably high conductivity.

So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
considered too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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WE2XGR/6 now visible/audible on 507.3 khz beacon mode 0039/46 utc 24/12/2007
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Hi David - 
   
  I'm getting half a microvolt from your beacon using a 3 turn loop with area of one square metre. I figure that works out at 17 microvolts per metre field strength. I'm 23 km due north of you so I reckon that adds up to an EIRP of 5.1 milliwatts. Anyone care to check my sums?
   
  The loop is in my garden so might be affected by my aerials and house wiring but it does give deep nulls and sensible readings on stronger signals. Half a microvolt is also the minimum usable reading on my SPM-30 SLM so there may be errors due to the low signal-to-noise ratio. 
   
  Brian (G3YKB)  

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  With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I suspect my ERP amy not quite be the 5mW I have estimated.




       
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<DIV>Hi David - </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>I'm getting half a microvolt from your beacon using a 3 turn loop with area of one square metre. I figure that works out at 17 microvolts per metre field strength. I'm&nbsp;23 km due north of you so&nbsp;I reckon that adds up to an EIRP of 5.1 milliwatts. Anyone care to check my sums?</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The loop is in my garden so might be affected by my aerials and house wiring but it does give deep nulls and sensible readings on stronger signals. Half a microvolt is also the&nbsp;minimum usable reading on my SPM-30 SLM so there may be errors due to the low signal-to-noise ratio.&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Brian (G3YKB)&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>g0mrf@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_f0237ff9-c51f-4273-a999-0b02b5002497>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I
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any activity on 137KHz.
the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WCB.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any activity on 137KHz.</FONT></DIV>
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Re Uwe !

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> G3AQC is agn on the QRG.
No no ! it you on 318 !! good propag .......
> I changed the QRG to 136,319kHz
Ok  137318.5 is vy good , no problem this frequency is free .
I changed the colors of Grabber so that it is more readable

73 qro  Jean-Pierre f1afj

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WD2XGJ is off the air while I am on a business trip. 

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WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello LF ,
> 
> This evening , good copy of beacon CT1DRP  , see picture .
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
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Hi LF,

Starting test transmission tonight at 1700 utc & will possibly continue 
until 2300 utc or a little later.

Conditions as before, sending "G4WGT" in DFCW10, 9 metres high vertical 
antenna with elevated inductance & small square capacitive topload (5.75 Sq 
Mtrs) at  100 mW ERP.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Sorry, make that 137,778 kHz ;-)

Dave G3WCB

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Subject: [137] Who is this?


Lf,

Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc this
evening. Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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WD2XGJ will be running low power (250 watts out) for the next few days.

Happy Christmas!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Hello Daved and LFers!
I received on 503.7kHz whole night, bud nothing. The conditions was not
as good as one night before. Signals from German beacons was lower.
Well . may be this night!
73
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hartmut,

Thanks for the captures on your 500 KHz page.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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> Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
> WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
> Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
> transmission from G0MRF were readable.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
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On 9 Dec 2007 at 13:14, James Moritz wrote:

> Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of
> lengths of wire and a ground system, but the nature of the
> surroundings must be considered too.

What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in 
the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the 
open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics 
rather than solely due to the surrounding trees. I suspect here I 
have the worst of both with a garden made of sand (which I reach if I 
dig more than a foot down) and lots of surrounding vegetation - 
producing an earth resistance of several 100 ohms.

Interesting experiments.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello YLs and OMs,,

DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. For=20=
the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later thi=
s year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be switche=
d on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

Looking forward to your reception report.=20

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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Hello Brian ,

Happy to find your signal !
Good copy of your sig. ( 30 dB over the noise ! )
see picture

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the capture! Excellent band conditions.

I noted that from 02:30-03:00 when I put a carrier on that John's signal 
appeared upside down (mirror image) at 137.780-137.7806,
probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
products due to the mixing of strong signals!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XES


Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello LF ,

Wahooooo Brian vy good copy of CT1DRP ( your sig is audibly ! )

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137kHz: Copied UA4WPF and WD2XGJ

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500kHz: Copied G3XVL on 501.5 kHz and G0MRF on 503.7 kHz

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

T/A conditions are still poor on 500 kHz, captured a CW trace on
505.75 kHz but nothing readable.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hello Geri,
i had a much better receiption last night as the night before:
=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01
<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01>=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_02
<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_02>=20
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
Sent: 16 December 2007 12:55
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


Hello Marco,
=20
thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range,
running 10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the
weak signal.
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH

=20

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Scholz, Marco <mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com>=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Cc: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW <mailto:geri@dk8kw.de> =20
    Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
    Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air

    Good morning Geri,
    copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but
unfortunately to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again
tonight.
    =20
    http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
   =20
    http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03
    =20
    Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip
    =20
    vy73
    Marco
    DD7PC
    =20
    JN49ax

  _____ =20

    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
    Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air
   =20
   =20
    Hello YLs and OMs,,
    =20
    DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is
505.015 kHz. For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24
hours a day, later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode
so that it can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone
number.=20
    =20
    Looking forward to your reception report.=20
    =20
    Best 73
    =20
    Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
    =20
    =20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>Hello Geri,</SP=
AN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>i had a much be=
tter=20
receiption last night as the night before:</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
p://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_1<=
SPAN  class=3D831441706-17122007>7</SPAN>1207_01</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
p://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_171207_02">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_1<=
SPAN  class=3D831441706-17122007>7</SPAN>1207_0<SPAN  class=3D831441706-1712=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN  class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;<=
/DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>vy73</SPAN></DI=
V>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>Marco</SPAN></D=
IV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D831441706-17122007>DD7PC</SPAN></D=
IV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Geri=
',=20
DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 December 2007 12:55<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO=20=
is=20
back on the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Marco,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, runni=
ng=20
10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak=20
signal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGI=
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  <DIV    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"=
><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
olz,=20
  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org    href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de    hre=
f=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:=
15=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is=
 back=20
  on the air</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Good morning=20
  Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>copied traces=
 of your=20
  signal many times over last night, but unfortunately to weak for a full co=
py=20
  of your call sign. I try again tonight.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A    href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_01</A></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A    href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_03</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yae=
su FT-857D=20
  &amp; PA0RDT MiniWhip</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></=
DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>DD7PC</SPAN><=
/DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN    class=3D251191110-16122007>JN49ax</SP=
AN></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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  <FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> <A    href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@=
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Ge=
ri',=20
  DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 January 2002 03:14<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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k on=20
  the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
z.=20
  For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, lat=
er=20
  this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
  switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( nil )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.0 : WX          ( good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( vy good signal )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu






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Hi Jean-Pierre,
      Thanks for the report!

> If I had your TX and ant, and you my RX, one will be able to make qso 
> every evening!

    That is the ideal!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Hello  Warren  ,

Enormous signal in this moment! .  If I had your TX and ant, and you my RX, 
one will be able to make qso every evening!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht







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Chaps - considering the very (very) noizy qrn wise of constant s9 plus qrn t=
his is good going; actually receiving anything at all at our erp=B4s given t=
he tropical equatorial location is a good christmas present.
=20
9V1 LF Rx continues on =B4auto=B4
R75 E probe at appx 23m=20
http://kl1x.com
=20
73
Laurence bicycle mobile in EA8
Sunny 22C
 Hi Laurence and Dmitry,I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber=
, but did you notice traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in fr=
equency at about 21:00could this have been PE1RRF ? Sadly no trace of my tra=
nsmission, although I belive conditions are getting to be good, The Kp index=
 is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now several dayssince the la=
st disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn. M=
ay have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.Merry Christmas to all.L=
aurie.G3AQC.=20
_________________________________________________________________
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<BR>Chaps - considering the very (very) noizy qrn wise of constant s9 plus q=
rn this is good going; actually receiving anything at all at our erp=B4s giv=
en the tropical equatorial location is a good christmas present.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
9V1 LF Rx continues on =B4auto=B4<BR>
R75 E probe at appx 23m <BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
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73<BR>
Laurence bicycle mobile in EA8<BR>
Sunny 22C<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<BR>I also saw the very clear "O"&nbsp; on=20=
Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice <BR>traces lower on 318/318.5 of a si=
gnal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<BR>could this have been PE1RRF=20=
? <BR>Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are ge=
tting to be <BR>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and=20=
it is now several days<BR>since the last disturbance. So I will continue to=20=
transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn. <BR>May have to shift freq to avoid con=
gestion on 318 hi.<BR>Merry Christmas to all.<BR>Laurie.G3AQC. <BR><BR><br /=
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Hi Brian, LF,

CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.

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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.3 : F4DTL     ( Nil )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( Nil )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( "Ho" graphical node good )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.0 : G3AQC    (strong signal )
136318.5 : DJ8WX   ( nil )
136318.8 : G3XDV    ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP   ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu











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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )

WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Henny,
     Thanks for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  capture xgj
  02-12 time:07:35z
  henny pa3cpm
  73s

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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Hi John....same on this end again...lot's of signal but no decode.

Merry Xmas

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OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.



01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> tnx

> Graham ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

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> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> Hi Graham!

> Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> >  HI All ,

> > If anyone's about ,,,

> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20

> > you

> > can 'see' it

> > Reports welcome

> > Tnx

> > Graham

> > G0NBD / IO83LK

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Humpty Dumpty: When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean -=20
neither more nor less.
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> Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
> Otherwise the information is misleading
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
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>> tu Jean-Pierre
>> henny pa3cpm
>> gl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
>>
>>
>> Hello Henny and all ,
>>
>> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
>> the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
>> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
>> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
>> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>> > *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
>> > **
>> > *enny pa3cpm*
>> > *73s*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date:
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>>
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>
>
> --=20
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> 12/22/2007 14:02
>
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nice capture wd2xgj
time:04:30z
henny pa3cpm
merry xmas
73s

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Hi all,

just testing with Spectrum Lab and longtime field strength observing. 
Setting up Noise, DI2BO, OK0EMW, DI2AG and DI2AM.
I export the field strength numbers into a  "tab seperated" csv file and 
upload this to my Local Linux server. On the Linux server i used
php software to generate a JPEG Picture to show the field strength in 
the last 12 / 24h or what ever looks nice picture.
Finaly this picture will upload every day to my WEB site. I still need 
to calibrate the dbuV .

Here a picture with Spectrum lab listening to DI2BO, OK0EMW, DI2AG and 
DI2AM.
http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/505Khz_dbuV.JPG

Did anyone else experiment with Spectrum Lab?


73 Karl-Heinz
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Hi Gary & LF!



Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

QRSS10.



Did not copy your signal, Gary.

Your TX is off now?



08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi LF,

> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> Reports welcome.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Henny, Jean-Pierre,

 Thank you for the reports and captures of my brief transmission!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Hello Joe  ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Joyeux No=EBl !

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-HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?



After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone who 
can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of a 
inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section



I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !



It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling the 
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137kHz: Weak copy of F4DTL 20:00-21:00. Very strong signal from UA4WPF
the whole night. Good peaks of XGJ, but there was a lot of fading
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500kHz: Copied 3 lines of the WE2XGR/3 JT2 signal at 01:46, 01:48 and
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Hello, Marco

Thanks for the report and screenshot. My ERP is about 50 mW, and the antenna
is a 20m long "tee" with a double top wire at 5 metres high.

73, dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E.England

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Subject: LF: RE: [500] KHz G3WCB QRV


Hello Dave,
I just listen to your signal the last 30min. (23:30-00:00) and had a
copy of your call -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/g3wcb_503_85_141207.JPG
Receiver here only Yaesu FT-857 and PA0DRT Miniwhip.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

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Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM
CW i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM








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HI Manuel
   
  There is more of Spain West of the zero meridian than East of it. So why, tell me, is your country on european time? Or is it some diabolical EU Law? Here it would mean I would have to drive to work in the pitch dark for more weeks of the year on EU time. I note that your neighbour Portugal, further West of UK and Spain,  has UTC during the winter also which is understandable.
   
  Any way what ever the reasons you, like me, will be listening to SAQ's Xmas message :-)
   
  Lars/SM6NM does a great job at Grimton.
   
  Vy 73 Petefmt
  
Manuel Santos Greve <manuel.santosgreve@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental time, Please?
   
  Manuel Santos EA4BVZ

 
  2007/12/14, Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:   

        m0fmt@beeb.net                 Date :   Wed 5 Dec 15:40:47 GMT 2007          From :   Lars Kĺlland <sm6nm@telia.com>    Add To Address Book           Subject :   Correction SAQ Christmas transmission.           To :   "Lars Kalland" <lars.kalland@telia.com>                      Previous     Next     Printer Friendly Version                                             [input]   Put in Folder... Inbox Draft Sent Trash 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8                    
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  I did it again!!!!!!
   
   
  Not for the first time, and possible not for the last, I made a misstake in calculating Swedish time into UTC time for the Christmas Eve transmission.
   
  The correct time should be: 08.00 UTC and 08:15 UTC.
   
  I am terrible sorry!
   
   
  Lars/SM6NM
   
   
    
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<div>HI Manuel</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>There is more of Spain West&nbsp;of the zero&nbsp;meridian than&nbsp;East of it. So why, tell me, is your country on european time? Or is it some diabolical EU Law? Here it would mean I would have to drive to work in the pitch dark for more weeks of the year on EU time. I note that your neighbour Portugal,&nbsp;further West of UK and Spain, &nbsp;has UTC during the winter also which is understandable.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Any way what ever the reasons you, like me, will be listening to SAQ's Xmas message :-)</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Lars/SM6NM does a great job at Grimton.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Vy 73 Petefmt</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Manuel Santos Greve &lt;manuel.santosgreve@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV>Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental&nbsp;time, Please?</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> 
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WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(20) on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to about 
0330 UTC. Note that this is the "double speed" mode of WOLF, and 
requires DL4YHF's WOLF GUI program, available at:
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html

I suggest setting the number of frames for decoding to 16, as it is 
unlikely that there will be a big buildup of copy over long periods at 
this frequency. The output text will also have some useful data for 
analyzing propagation, so I'd appreciate a copy, either direct or on one 
of the mail lists.

This is a long-haul mode and conditions are good, so reception in EU 
should be possible. All reports are welcome.

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Hi Ken then you may need either a transformer or a switching stage that will
drive move that 6 to 8 volts on to the gate and handle the high gate
capacitance. There is not much point I believe in trying to run in Class C
with this kind of device, It is a lot easier to go right to Class D/E, they
are not very linear devices. You may get nearer to Class C type operation
with a audio power FET but these are much more expensive. The 530 is
intended to be used as a switch.

The step up output circuit does work I have used one of these on a PA stage.
It does need tuning which is a little difficult (high C) but does avoid a
transformer. You do also need to be careful about the coils. I uses low
permiability iron dust or air cored. Ferrite cores are too lossy in this
application (filters and tuned circuits).

Good Luck with it
Cheeers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: RE: Re: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply, I am trying to run it in pseudo class C,
driving it from a xtal controlled osc, 10mW output into a buffer/driver amp.

 73 Ken M0KHW

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Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L â C â L  output network the design parameters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =
12, giving, L1  38ÂľH, C1 3.7nF, L2  84ÂľH, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50ÎŠ) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV








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Warren,

> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
> products due to the mixing of strong signals!

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Hi all

Now RU9CUA start qrss30 137778.4,  in qrss3 "T-M"
Last night Andy EW6GB start testing new ant. I see ew6gb on137775.5
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Sorry doing house wiring, just re-established.  Brian CT1DRP



At 14:48 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Brian, LF,
>
>CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>




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Hallo Finbar and ALL!
I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
configuration of my program for QRSS3.
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GL and 73
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Lubos, OK2BVG=20

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code' an
array ?


> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I
> see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae
is
> it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could
> be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you
> could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if
i
> could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth
> system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code'
an
> array ?
>
>
> > Graham,
> >
> > attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> > adapted for 500kHz.
> > Maybe that will be of some help.
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD
> >
> > Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
> >
> >> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> >> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> >> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet
!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> >> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> >> parallel 2 wire section ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tnx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> G0NBD
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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Thanks Brian,

I thought may have been a problem you were not aware of !!

I was checking to see if my RTTY test transmission was showing there.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sorry doing house wiring, just re-established.  Brian CT1DRP
> 
> 
> 
> At 14:48 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Brian, LF,
>>
>>CT1DRP 500 KHz grabber not updating since 1408 utc.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
> 
> 
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>



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Hello the list,

 Well the celebration may  be a bit premature.  Bob and Rudy had several 
'partial' QSOs but were not able to complete the exchange due to QSB. Maybe 
tomorrow night.

73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Overland 500kHz DX Record WD2XSH/20 - WE2XGR/6


> Rudy N6LF(WD2XSH/20) in Cottage Grove Oregon and Bob W2ZM (WE2XGR/6)in 
> Penn Yan NY worked tonite 03:00 UTC on 1 December for an Overland record 
> of 3681.83 km (2287.886 miles)!
>
> Congrats to Bob & Rudy!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS/ WE2XGR/1
>
> 



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Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.

My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.

If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
be grateful to learn.

For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/

With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP

At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>after rebuilding system at new location.
>
>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
>Reports welcome.
>
>Brian CT1DRP
>




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Hello LF ,

Good copy of :
WD2XGJ (short try in QRSS60)
WD2XES (short test in graphical mode)

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
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Hello ,

At 22:00utc , I switched my antenna in direction of the USA (T/A=20
grabber) , but your signal is still very good, although it is not any=20
more in your direction ! my setup are at :=20
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Setup/Setup.htm

Good night Jean-Pierre f1afj


Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu

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137kHz: Copied RA3YO in DFCW10 on 137.778 kHz and G3WCB in QRSS3 on
137.695kHz

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz in QRSS3. Later, during the
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GM All, LF,

Just a line to say thank you to the following operators for their feedback 
:-

For captures & reports-
Victor PA3FNY, Henny PA3CPM, Gus SM6BHZ, Lubos OK2BVG & Marco DD7PC.

Also for watching -
Roman RW3ADB.

I will mail here when next testing, thanks again.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 




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Hi JP,

Thanks for the report!
73
Joe

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> I doubt  more and more the possibility of receiving your beacon!
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> The captures of night are at :
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Graham,

attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when  
adapted for 500kHz.
Maybe that will be of some help.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>
>
>
> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
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> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
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> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
> parallel 2 wire section ?
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated ,
>
>
>
> Tnx
>
>
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> G0NBD




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> Henny, LF,
>
> Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance 
> about 550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.
>
> Is the signal audible ??
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
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>
>
> strong signal now
> 18:48z
> henny cpm
> 73s.
>
> 



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Hartmut,

Thanks very much for the WOLF copy from last night. The results do not 
show the frequent fades so common on the shorter paths. Very interesting!

John Andrews, W1TAG




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137kHz: Copied F4DTL, RA3YO, RA9CUA, UA4WPF and WD2XGJ.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Copied WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz about 01:25-02:30. It seems the
opening towards the US was a bit late for WE2XGR/2. Nil last night.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello Henny and all ,

I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
no cannot be sure at 100% !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> **
> *enny pa3cpm*
> *73s*


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Good copy now of DI2AM, DI2AG and OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible in th=
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WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to 
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ge Mal.

tnx for report. yes i like cw, you know. i am sure we do it agn next time in=
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cw hi. but now looking for new one, may be from Russia hi.

best 73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE.
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> Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no=20
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> I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
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Spurred on by you two I have just revisited MMANA-GAL with the 
simulation of my 500kHz vertical - pretty similar to your top loaded 
designs but without any top loading. I have shown it resonates 
(approximately at the correct frequency) and my model (attached) 
shows how to add a loading coil (in my case at 1m height) and base 
fed with the source.

I have now found out that all NEC models do not use the ground 
characteristics in calculating impedance, they only use them for the 
radiation plots. Hence you will see that mine has a resistive 
impedance of 0.136 ohms which is just the radiation resistance. When 
you have 50-100 plus of earth losses this will of course add to the 
impedance and makes the use of the program for impedance matching and 
efficiency calculations effectively useless.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 28 Dec 2007 at 18:45, Graham wrote:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
> 
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout
> .. I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where
> on the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where
> a  element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to
>  it .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
> 
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section
> , if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there !
> the earth system would be the other half  hihi
> 
> Tnx
> 
> Graham ..

http://www.davesergeant.com


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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




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Hello group,

G3XIZ is very strong in SM.

QRG  503,952 kHz..


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Hi Jean-Pierre, LF,

many thanks for the report! After reworking the loading coil, this was my fi=
rst test on air since February... Currently I'm calling DFCW around 137.570=20=
kHz. This is in a 10 Hz wide gap in the DCF39 FSK sidebands, much clearer he=
re than the usual 137.7 range.

Southeast Asian Loran-C signals were only weak during the last couple of nig=
hts, despite quiet geomagnetic conditions.

Best wishes to all

Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ , DF6NM


> Hello  all on LF ,
> Last night i copy  :
> DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )
> WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>=20
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> --=20
> Website : http://jpmere.online.fr/

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean-Pierre, LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>many thanks for the report!&nbsp;After rewo=
rking=20
the loading coil, this was&nbsp;my first&nbsp;test on air since=20
February...&nbsp;Currently I'm calling&nbsp;DFCW around 137.570 kHz.=20
This&nbsp;is in a 10 Hz wide gap&nbsp;in the DCF39 FSK sidebands, much=20
clearer&nbsp;here than the usual 137.7 range.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Southeast Asian Loran-C&nbsp;signals were o=
nly weak=20
during the last couple of nights,&nbsp;despite quiet geomagnetic=20
conditions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DF6NM in JN59NK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" &lt;</FONT><A=20=
  href=3D"mailto:jpm.f1afj@online.fr"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>jpm.f1af=
j@online.fr</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: [137] last night : WD2XGJ ,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
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Hi John, Jay & LF,

Just found the decoded text in a file called ALL.TXT, not sure if it gets 
there auto matically or due to me clicking buttons or other menu options.

Here is the important part of the session, looks like it peaked for me 
around 0230 - 0300utc.

023600  0  -33  3.6 -470 32
023700  5  -25  0.1 -470  7 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
023800  0  -33 -1.5 -508 23
023900  7  -23  0.1 -470  4 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024000  0  -31  4.6 -442 18 #
024100  8  -24  0.1 -470  2 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024200  0  -33  3.2 -475  9
024300  0  -28  0.1 -470  9 *
024400  0  -33  1.9 -464 35
024500  0  -33 -0.1 -494 14
024600  0  -33  2.0 -422 18
024700  6  -23  0.4 -470  2 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
024800  0  -31  0.0 -470  9 *
024900  0  -33  0.2 -514 16
025000  0  -33  2.4 -429  5
025100  0  -33  3.9 -514  8
025200  0  -33 -0.8 -440  6
025300  0  -28  0.3 -468 25 *
025400  1  -27  0.3 -470  1 *
025500  0  -33  4.4 -481 21
025600  4  -24  0.3 -470  4 *      CQ WE2XGR/3               1   0
025700  0  -33  2.7 -435 19
025800  0  -32  0.1 -470  7 *
025900  2  -26  0.0 -470  6 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
030000  0  -33 -0.1 -446 28
030100  0  -28  0.0 -468  9 *
030200  0  -33  1.9 -470  7
030300  6  -25  0.0 -470  4 *      73 DE XGR/2               1   0
030400  0  -33  5.1 -497 42

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> XGR/2 on as of 0030. Currently at 100 watts but will step the power up 
> over the evening.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight
>
>
>> Hartmut,
>>
>> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another
>> schedule on CW.
>>
>> John A.
>>
>> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> >> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to
>> >> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for 
>> >> part
>> >> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every 
>> >> minute.
>> >> I've added a few tips to the instructions at
>> >> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
>> >
>> > first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
>> > waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Hartmut
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 




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Thank you, Victor, that was fast.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Victor van Kooten=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:22 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello Geri,

  just captured part of your callsign at 505,014 KHz, 15:20z

  73
  Victor
  PA3FNY
  JO22NC
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
    Verzonden: dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14
    Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Onderwerp: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


    Hello YLs and OMs,,

    DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.=20=
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later=
 this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be swi=
tched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

    Looking forward to your reception report.=20

    Best 73

    Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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<DIV>Thank you, Victor, that was fast.</DIV>
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<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Hello Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>just captured part of your callsign=20=
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>73</SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
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    <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015=20=
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ater=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
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Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the
programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The 1/2-space
DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient for
field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier.

Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an "open
field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna,
which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the
effect of the site on antenna performance.  The /P location is near Newgate
Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and really
is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain
keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the pictures
of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago!

A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance
measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to be
close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss
resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5
ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as
my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly
identical.

Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna on
136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results by
the weekend.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Subject: LF: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8


>
> Hallo Mike and All!
> I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
> signal is growing stronger.
>
> 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>



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On Monday 24 December 2007 16:04, G0MRF@aol.com wrote:
> Seasons greetings all.
>
> Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF  frequencies?
>
> Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity
> where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a 
> satellite. However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna. 
> I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.
>
> Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a
> decision?
>

I'm using an e-field antenna in HF, it's about 6 - 10 dB lossy versus an 1/2 
wave dipole. The probe is a beer can.

In the earth environment the emf developed at the e-field probe is referenced 
to the ground potential.

In open space the spacecraft body is the reference potential but you should 
consider the [(delta voltage) over (delta space)] as function of the electric 
field strength .

I think that the spacecraft to e-field_probe distance is very little, so the 
emf is also little.  May be that a "long tail" connected to space craft body 
may help.

Some references:
(1) Christof Rohner, "Antenna Basics", Rohde&Schwarz, 1999 (search WEB with 
GOOGLE)
(2) SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "VAMP 9243 9 kHz - 30 MHz Low noise active 
monopole antenna", http://www.schwarzbeck.de/Datenblatt/m9243.pdf
(3) SCHWARZBECK MESS - ELEKTRONIK, "Calibration of Vertical Monopole Antennas 
(9kHz - 30 MHz)" (search WEB with GOOGLE)

73 de Claudio, ik2pii

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Hello LF ,

This evening , good copy of beacon CT1DRP  , see picture .

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John,

> WE2XGR/3 will run WOLF(20) on 508.500 kHz tonight from 0000 to about 
> 0330 UTC. 

thanks for the "gudnite" greetings! Continious copy of the WOLF20 
transmission 00:00-03:30. Will upload the results to my website later 
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for the try, I thought it was Chris !! I did see a weak RTTY trace on 
SpecLab.

Your signal was way down in noise & no chance of any copy.

What software do you use ?? I am trying to see if RTTY 23 Hz shift at 22 bd 
speed will do any better on this band, MMTTY will do that mode.

I mailed Sergei (UA9OV) who wrote the TrueTTY I use to impliment 22 bd on 
next upgrade & he as much as said yes !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "brian hodgson" <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: [500] G4WGT RTTY


> Hi Gary -
>
>  Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I 
> could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable 
> on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?
>
>  Brian (G3YKB)
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Andy,

Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz, is=20
fully horizontal?

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX




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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> GB3SSS from Poldhu, Cornwall, is back again for a few months.  Only
> this time it is transmitting on 3597.0kHz, for 80m Transatlantic
> propagation tests over the winter months.
>
> Transmissions are every 15 minutes, starting on the 00/15/30/45 minute
> interval and use the same format as the 1.96MHz beacon last year, ie
> callsign followed by two sets of 6dB power steps, then a PSK31 message
> starting at the 30 second boundary.
>
> The 5MHz beacon monitoring software available from :
>
> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacon%20monitoring.htm
>
> can be used to automatically log this beacon, which appears on the red
> trace as if it were GB3RAL.
>
> --=20
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>
>
>
> --=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date:=20
> 01/12/2007 12:05
>
>=20


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Thanx dear F5WK Michel for my first contact on LF  band.
 
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Hi All,

Running a  data beacon using , multipsk in olivia mode , previous test with 
this mode gave  quite  good print .

OLIVIA        250  HZ     8 TONES
CENT FREQ    503.00KHz
MODE -USB-

(Tx set ,  501.00 usb ,   tone freq   2 Khz )

>> "8-250": "Slow" 8 tones, bandwidth=250 Hz, speed=31.25 bauds, 14.6 wpm, 
>> lowest S/N=-14 dB,<<


If it print's let me know !

Tnx

Graham

G0NBD
Io83lk





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Thanks to Henny, Jean-Pierre, and Hartmut foir the reports and captures of W=
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

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  capture xgj  04:30z
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Audible signal here.
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73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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Wonderful !    First reception in EA.   Thank you  Jose.  ERP  apx 55mW
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Distance 1080 km
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Solid copy SAQ this morning also in JN06HT ( see pictures )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj



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reflector seems a bit slow this evening...

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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

I doubt  more and more the possibility of receiving your beacon!

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hi Ed

Not strong here

Dmitry

> Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no point
> going at this speed. Try cw
> g3ke




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ok dave,
tu for the contact
mxmas ,

henny pa3cpm
73s
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> Hi, Henny.
>
> Sorry I missed your call at 1400z. I was messing around with the antenna 
> and
> TX, and I couldn't reply! We have had heavy icing all day, and it has 
> upset
> the antenna tuning. You were "O" copy on my 1,2m RX loop.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
> 



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Lubos
Are u not hearing my cw onn 502.5 khz de Mal/g3kev

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  Unbelievably strong signal now!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are u not hearing my cw onn 502.5 khz de=20
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  <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz"=
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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0:38=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] DI2BO once more<=
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  <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=20
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Can see a trace , actually a  near constant trace in io83lk , few more watts 
and looks like could of had a psk31 qso .. qsb cycle 3 mins ... any idea 
where the /p location is ?

Graham ..

G0NBD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Thayne" <g3gms@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: LF 500: M0BMU/P on 503.8


> Been receiving M0BMU/P for past 30 mins at 559 sending series dashes
> and callsign.
>
> Mike G3GMS
> IO95GB
>
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IS this you Brian?
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Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
description will
appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
reports
and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next few 
days.  For anyone interested
the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps disciplined 
5MHz frequency standard
(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.

With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP

At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>
>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>
>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>be grateful to learn.
>
>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>
>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>
>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>
>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>
>>Reports welcome.
>>
>>Brian CT1DRP
>
>




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er staan nog 5 afstemc s op je te wachten,nieuw in de doos,3 keer 500 pf.

mvgr.henny cpm.

3euro per stuk................


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Good aural copy Gary,congrats!

73
Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Gary - G4WGT
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2007 19:12
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Henny, LF,

Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance about
550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.

Is the signal audible ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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strong signal now
18:48z
henny cpm
73s.







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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the comments...

K2ORS wrote:

> Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field
> strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are
indeed
> very close.

I have just re-calculated the ERP based on values of Rrad obtained using a
NEC-based antenna simulator (MMANA-GAL). This should give a more accurate
value of Rrad than the simple formulas based on capacitance, because a more
complicated geometry can be modelled, and the interaction of the fields of
the horizontal and vertical parts of the antenna will be accounted for. This
resulted in slightly higher values of Rrad, and slightly higher expected
ERP. This gave even better agreement between calculated and measured ERP at
the open-field site - at 136k the measured ERP is now +0.3dB on the
calculate value, and at 503k it is -0.1dB. This is probably well within the
likely measurement uncertainties.

G3NYK wrote:

> I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and
the
> environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
> capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all
of
> the distributed Rrad.

I think this ties up with the "tree current" experiment I did some months
back - it was clear then that, especially on 136k, a substantial proportion
of the antenna current was returning to ground through the trees near the
antenna. In the far field, the total radiation would be a function of the
superposition of the currents flowing "up" the antenna and "down" the
trees - the bigger the trees, and the more current flowing in them, the more
they would tend to cancel the radiation from the antenna. The measurements
of the "tree current" were very rough, but at 500kHz it appeared that the
currents were a smaller fraction of the antenna current, which would tie up
with the smaller observed reduction in Rrad at 500kHz.

G3YMC wrote:

> What would be interesting is if you could quantify any differences in
> the type of ground at the two QTHs. The much lower earth loss at the
> open site may well be due to totally different soil characteristics
> rather than solely due to the surrounding trees.

The ground was probably as similar as it is possible to be at two separate
locations - the open field site was only about 4km from my home QTH, and
geographically part of the same landscape. The soil in both places is a
heavy clay that is waterlogged at this time of year. If anything, the ground
was wetter at the /P location, because my QTH is on a slope and relatively
well drained, but I generally find that wetter conditions lead to higher
loss resistance. It would certainly be interesting to see how the type of
ground afffects loss resistance, but it would probably be quite hard to find
a suitable selection of sites.

G3LDO wrote:

> At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my
> garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet.

At my QTH, over the period I have been making antenna measurements, the
antenna has stayed basically the same, but the surrounding trees have grown
quite a bit larger. During this time, the apparent Rrad has decreased to
about half of its initial value, and Rloss has increased by around 50%.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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On 5 Dec 2007 at 17:24, g3kev wrote:

> Jack/ve3zz

Jack's callsign is VE1ZZ.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello all,

After a long delay finally the LX/PA6Z QSL's are ready, and will be mailed/s=
end by the buro tomorrow.

Also all QSL's for 136kHz QSO's with PA4VHF will be send via the buro.
=20

Now I'am very busy with the preparations for my QTH move beginning 2008.
So, for at least the next half year no activties from my side.
Hope to set up a bigger LF-antenna at new QTH

73

Dick, PA4VHF

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After a long delay finally the LX/PA6Z QSL'=
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gm LF.

good cpy qrss60 transm. of UA4WPF yesterday.
captured at 2155utc.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good cpy qrss60 transm. of UA4WPF=20
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Hi Uwe ,

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
> pulling the
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Hi Chris, LF,

Your QRS signal strongly visible tonight & audible with 100 Hz filter.

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I know that some people on the list have been looking for a selective level 
meter.
For anyone down in the south-west of the UK one has just come up on 
ebay.co.uk

Wandel and Goltermann Wave analyser SPM60 6kHz to 19MHz

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200180290173
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73s Tracey



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OK Mal,=20

Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured=20=
here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied on th=
e band.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jose
  Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for a=
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  73 de Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Hi all,

    Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as w=
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Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply, I am trying to run it in pseudo class C, driv=
ing it from a xtal controlled osc, 10mW output into a buffer/driver amp.

 73 Ken M0KHW

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 11 December 2007 11:10
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: IRF530N in 500kHz PA

Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Wright" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: LF: IRF530N in 500kHz PA


Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design para=
meters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q=20=
=3D
12, giving, L1  38=C2=B5H, C1 3.7nF, L2  84=C2=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF f=
ixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50=CE=A9) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed=20=
from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV





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Hello Brian and LF ,
This morning the sun is raised , the signal is very good !
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Henny.
You would need a lot of imagination to identify that signal!!!!!!!!!
g3kev

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  Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:33 AM
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  capture  vo1na??=20
  time 2:30z  qrss 60
  antenne dx-10
  rec:rohde&schwarz ek891
  henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
  73s joe.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would need a lot of imagination to iden=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>capture&nbsp; vo1na??=20
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Hello group
Same message of Ed, strong copy from RA3YO last night in DFCW mode.
 
 
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: 10m vertical with 7 mH  loading coil



   

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Hello Jean-Pierre,
   
    Thank you for the report!

73 K2ORS/WD2XGJ (the watchman of the night!)


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello  all on LF ,
> 
> Last night i copy  :
> 
> DL2HRE
> CT1DRP
> F6BIR ( in test)
> 
> WD2XGJ
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> 
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> -- 
> Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 



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Tnx Mal, maybe Gus could not get his temporary permit renewed.

Vy 73 Warren K2ORS

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> Warren
> Not hrd/seen  for a while on 505 khz.
> Just checked and nil hrd/seen
> Mal/G3KEV
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
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>> Hello the list,
>>
>>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
> supposed
>> to expire on November 30.
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
>>
>


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Mal,

> Hartmut.
> Pse give the qrg of 500 khz stns.
> g3kev
all captures on my website are showing time and QRG.

Here for you again:

WD2XSH/17 505.260 kHz CW copy between the QRSS3 signal about 23:55.

WE2XGR/2  506.5 kHz 00:25

WE2XGR/6  507.3 kHz around 01:00

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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John,

  Being only 25 miles away, I hear your WSJT signal FB but as far as decode 
I get
NADA
NUNCA
NIETS
RIEN
NICHTS
??????
NIENTE
??????

or in English:
NOTHING!

  I set WSJT to JT-2 and receive, there seems to be a Waterfall window 
(SpecJT) but it is completely blank!
There does not appear to be an input mixer or setup for the audio in this 
program.

I did try SPECTRAN which does seem to process and display the audio 
waterfall properly, although sometimes SPECTRAN will hang in VISTA and 
require the Task Manager to kill it.





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Thanks to Gary and Hartmut for the reports last night. I have pointed Joe 
> Taylor to the .wav files that Hartmut recorded, as he was interested in 
> them.
>
> WD2XES will run JT2 on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 2130 until 0000 UTC, 
> and then move up to 137.779 for more conventional operation.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 



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Hello Lubos
Pse work xband 3533 khz for a qso and tnx the report.
73 de Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:49 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] G3KEV on 502500


  Hallo LFers!

  I just heard 339 G3KEV on 502.500 in normal cw QSO. Conditions seams be ve=
ry good! I have never heard G station at 16:30UT.

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG



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Jim

Thanks for the very informative investigation.

So...if you make accurate FS measurements and accurately characterise your antenna system (and
document it for the authorities!) can one can just add more coal to the fire to achieve the
allowable ERP? Or do the NOVs (for 500 kHz) or your regular license (for 137 kHz)  specify a maximum
transmitter power as well?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>



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Brian,

your traces are just readable in Nuernberg (JN59NK), fieldstrength about 0.3 uV/m at 21:50.

All the best of luck
Markus, DF6NM 



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Hello Joe  ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello Warren ,
Ok ! your signal are visible now ! no problem .
Happy Christmas to you

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


K2ORS a =E9crit :
> WD2XGJ will be running low power (250 watts out) for the next few days.
>
> Happy Christmas!
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
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John,

   Yes, but I have not seen it before at this distance!
73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Warren,
> 
>> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation 
>> products due to the mixing of strong signals!
> 
> Yes, that's an old story here when you and Jay are in the 137.78 
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.. at this moment, very nice audible copy on ~501.3 kHz, at DK4U (JO42FD).

Using the 200 meter "long" wire temporarily, and the IC706 (no converter).

Looking for crossband activity now; 40 meters preferred.

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Hi All ..

Thanks for reports from last night test .. I made a change to  the capacity 
top of the ae , which
looked to  improve 500 but  lost 4/5 s points on 1.8 and 3.5 mhz ..the ae is 
a 35 ft vertical with loading coil at top and a 30 ft , 2 wire capacity 
section ,in L configuration ....

last night capacity top was  3 wires   , center  wire fed, with outers 
acting as anti phase elements  ... now reduced to  2 , end fed


Running  cw at 0.2 wpm   503.2

testing change to ae , any reports welocme,

tnx

Graham .

G0NBD




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Hallo Finbar and all!
There are good conditions on 500kHz this night - see on the snapshot.
 
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Correction

To All from PA0SE
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on=20
17.2kHz. I used a Wandel & Goltermann SLM type=20
SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz=20
with 26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.

Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square=20
loop of 1 x 1 m the signal was sufficiently over=20
the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt (25Hz I.F. bandwidth).

 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6 dB=
=B5V).
On June 30, 2002  I measured 482 microvolt/metre=20
(53.6 dB=B5V) So the measurements are rather consistent.

This makes it possible to do some speculation as=20
to the power radiated by SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP).

The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N,=20
12.24E. Using a computer program written by=20
Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My=20
own locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of 735k=
m.

We can now enter these data into the graphs of=20
CCIR Recommendation 368-7 for ground-wave propagation. This results in:

Type of ground  dielectric constant    conductivity (mS/m)  EMRP

Perfect=20
ground          -=20
        -                            1.4kW

Land                           40=20
                     30                          3.0kW

Land                           22=20
                       3                          3.7kW

Medium=20
dry               15=20
          1                         4.7kW
ground

Dry=20
ground                  7=20
               0.3                      5.9kW
ground

If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW=20
then with an alternator output of 200kW the=20
efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D 2%.

This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at=20
such a low frequency it is  not too bad I think.

The aerial system consists of six vertical=20
radiators of 127 m high.  They are fed in phase=20
at the top and each radiator has its own loading=20
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by=20
Alexanderson) .  The total horizontal length is=20
2200 m, which is only 0.13 wavelength.  So the=20
system may have been designed to give some gain=20
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been achieved.

It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton=20
would measure the field strength outside the near=20
field area, for instance  at 5 wavelength distance, or 87km.
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be=20
assumed for calculating the EMRP (1kw produces=20
300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear way with distance).

73, Dick, PA0SE =20

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<b>Correction<br><br>
To All from PA0SE<br>
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on 17.2kHz. I used a Wandel &amp;
Goltermann SLM type SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz with
26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.<br><br>
Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square loop of 1 x 1 m the
signal was sufficiently over the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt
(25Hz I.F. bandwidth).<br><br>
 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6
dB=B5V).<br>
On June 30, 2002&nbsp; I measured 482 microvolt/metre (53.6
<font color=3D"#FF0000">dB=B5V</font>) So the measurements are rather
consistent.<br><br>
This makes it possible to do some speculation as to the power radiated by
SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP). <br><br>
The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N, 12.24E. Using a computer
program written by Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My own
locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of
735km.<br><br>
We can now enter these data into the graphs of CCIR Recommendation 368-7
for ground-wave propagation. This results in:<br><br>
<u>Type of ground</u>&nbsp; <u>dielectric constant </u>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<u>conductivity (mS/m)</u>&nbsp; <u>EMRP<br><br>
</u>Perfect ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
1.4kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
40&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.0kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.7kW<br><br>
Medium
dry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4.7kW<br>
ground<br><br>
Dry
ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5.9kW<br>
ground<br><br>
If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW then with an alternator
output of 200kW the efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D
2%.<br><br>
This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at such a low frequency it
is&nbsp; not too bad I think.<br><br>
The aerial system consists of six vertical radiators of 127 m high.&nbsp;
They are fed in phase at the top and each radiator has its own loading
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by Alexanderson) .&nbsp;
The total horizontal length is 2200 m, which is only 0.13
wavelength.&nbsp; So the system may have been designed to give some gain
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been
achieved.<br><br>
It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton would measure the field
strength outside the near field area, for instance&nbsp; at 5 wavelength
distance, or 87km. <br>
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be assumed for calculating
the EMRP (1kw produces 300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear
way with distance).&nbsp; <br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE </b></body>
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Hello Brian,

Nice to see you're back on LF (also TX-wise) ! 
Hope to work you again some day on LF, if winter conds permit.
At the moment, no visible signal at my home QTH. But I will look for you 
as soon as the nordic activity contest on VHF has finished (this evening).

73,
  Wolf   DL4YHF / DK4U / DF0WD .

Brian Rogerson schrieb:
> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>
> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
> after rebuilding system at new location.
>
> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
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Hi J-P,

Your traces were very exciting.  There appears to be a signal at 0100
and a fairly clear N at just after 0115.  These are likely my signals
although I cannot identify them conclusivy.  This is encouraging.
Many thanks JP!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Perhaps is this VO1NA ( see picture )
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hi all mf dxers.
I am now qrt and off to bed.
xdr/6 in and out of qsb at present and nil now from xdr/2
73 cu all another nite
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Hello Dave and the group,

Thanks for the screenshot dave. Nice to know the old TX still works as 
it should (and doesn't cause too much unwanted sidebands in this 
"linear" mode). You caught the final part of my transmission from DK4U, 
before I qsy'ed to VHF.
Nice conditions there; worked half a dozen of OH-stations via 
troposcatter, which is very unusual for this part of EU.

Seasons greetings to all,

Wolf DL4YHF .

Dave G3WCB schrieb:
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> Christmas Greetings "O" copy in Hell at 1245utc. I was visiting relatives
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> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
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Hi Markus!

Thank you for qood news
Now transmitting on 136320.8 dfcw90

73
Dmitry

> Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
> 
> it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.
> 
> Regards and seasons greetings to all
> 
> Markus, DF6NM



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Gm Jean Pierre, Chris, LF

i say "CQ F6BIR K"
good cpy of this station here in jo51tq, but not seen full call, because of 
being in transmission mode on 137.7766KHz this time.

73 Ed DL2HRE
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Dear OM,

> What is "unreadable transmission" ??
20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175
Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


Maybe "...F HRE K   DL2HRE" ?


73,
Chris G4OKW




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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
traces ?  + spurious

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Now its DX time of year acty is vy low, not even this reflector is exciting.
I suppose its back to hf for excitement, even the satellite business has
gone.
Amateur radio could be on the way out.
Mobile phones, internet skipe are echolink are IN
FOR SALE
watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK
G3KEV


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Mal,

   You can always see the activity by looking at the Ohio grabber:

http://ne-ohio-grabber.kn8azn.com/NE_Ohio_Grabber.html


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> 
>   OK Mal, 
> 
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured 
> here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the 
> band.
> 
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
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>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an 
> improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
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>       Hi all,
> 
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
> 
> 
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at present=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  Manuel</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 20, 2007 1=
1:54=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6=
</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as=
 well.=20
  The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal fro=
m=20
  USA I=B4ve ever copied on the band.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEF=
T: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">m=
al</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 21, 2007 1=
2:40=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6</=
DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost in=
 QSB.=20
    Will listen for a while for an improvement.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN=
-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV         style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-colo=
r: black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net         href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@tel=
efonica.net">Jose Manuel</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 20, 20=
07=20
      11:21 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 507.3 WE2XGR/6</DI=
V>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above=
 noise=20
      with 160 Hz BW.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></D=
IV>
      <P>
      <HR>

      <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=
=20
      Edition. <BR>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Releas=
e=20
      Date: 19/12/2007 19:37<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    <P>
    <HR>

    <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=20
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    Date: 19/12/2007 19:37<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P>
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  <P></P>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free=20
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Attached a screenshot of Gary's Signal at 10.43pm GMT.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Scholz, Marco
[CMB-IT]
Sent: 09 December 2007 00:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: AW: LF: 500 DFCW

Hello Gary,
I monitored your DFCW signal the last 2 hours. I have still some local
QRM, but I had a good copy of your signal with some QSB. RX: FT857 and
Miniwhip. The 1st time I received a signal from your stattion.
A snapshot I send tomorrow.

good night
Marco
DD7PC

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sat Dec 08 16:31:00 2007
Subject: LF: 500 DFCW

Hi LF,

Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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And in Massachusetts (about 110 km from Jay), there were two signal 
peaks, one around 0330Z when I started the captures, and another in the 
0500-0600Z range. A shot from 0553Z is attached.

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One additional note...if you close the program and restart it you'll have to double click on the
waterfall again. Apparently the program does not remember the previous run settings...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hello Marco & LF

It sure looks like GI4DPE and at the moment he is repeatedly sending callsig=
n +
10s dahes on approximately 501.3kHz. I can copy the signals Q5 by ear here i=
n
the better part of the QSB.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

Quoting "Scholz, Marco" <marco.scholz@citi.com>:

>
>
> Direct: +49 69 1366 1214
> Mobile: +49 171 866 1214
> Fax: +49 69 1366 1536
> mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dd7pc@email.de <dd7pc@email.de>
> To: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]
> Sent: Mon Dec 17 21:20:18 2007
> Subject: GI4DPE?
>
>  <<gi4dpe_171207.JPG>>
> Hello,
>
> i receiving around 501.38 KHz long dashes. Not sure maybe its the beacon o=
f
> Finbar GI4DPE?
>
> Please see attached file.
>
> thanks
>
> vy73
>
> Marco
>
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
>
>
>
>
>   <https://img.web.de/ivw/CP/freemail/content/?ts=3D1197926408-797677>
>
>




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Hello Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> I noted that from 02:30-03:00 when I put a carrier on that John's=20
> signal appeared upside down (mirror image) at 137.780-137.7806,
> probably due to an overload of the sound card causing intermodulation=20
> products due to the mixing of strong signals!
Yes I saw it well , I will try to reproduce the phenomenon with two=20
generators in order to know which was the level of your signals . I use=20
the AGC of Spectrum Lab , and it is difficult to see the true level !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Good Morning Uwe,

i was listening this morning ~9:20h - 10:07h  to your beacon at 
136.319khz. Your signal was audiable and about 15db - 20db over qrm.

QTH: JO31HS
Ant: Aktiv antenna OP27, 14m High
Receiver. Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Spectrum Lab

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


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Hello Marco,

thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, running 10=
 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak signal.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Scholz, Marco=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Cc: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Good morning Geri,
  copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but unfortunately=
 to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again tonight.

  http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
  http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03

  Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip

  vy73
  Marco
  DD7PC

  JN49ax



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  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
  Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello YLs and OMs,,

  DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz. Fo=
r the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later t=
his year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be switc=
hed on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20

  Looking forward to your reception report.=20

  Best 73

  Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

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<DIV>Hello Marco,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for the report. The ERP of DI2BO is still in the mW range, runni=
ng=20
10 Watts HF into an 8 m "long" wire, that's the reason for the weak=20
signal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO in JO52BH</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@citi.com href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Sch=
olz,=20
  Marco </A></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dgeri@dk8kw.de     hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geri@dk8kw.de">Holger 'Geri', DK8KW</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:=
15=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: (500 kHz) DI2BO is=
 back=20
  on the air</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Good morning=20
  Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>copied traces=
 of your=20
  signal many times over last night, but unfortunately to weak for a full co=
py=20
  of your call sign. I try again tonight.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A     href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_01</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A     href=
=3D"http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/d=
i2bo_161207_03</A></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yae=
su FT-857D=20
  &amp; PA0RDT MiniWhip</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN><=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>DD7PC</SPAN><=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN     class=3D251191110-16122007>JN49ax</S=
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  <FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Ge=
ri',=20
  DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 January 2002 03:14<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is bac=
k on=20
  the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
z.=20
  For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, lat=
er=20
  this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
  switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=20
In a message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time, =20
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz writes:

Hello  Lubos.=20
Thank you for the  report, I have switched the beacon off this morning so as=
=20
not to cause QRM to  my 'LF neighbours' here in London.

I will switch on again  tonight from 22.00. to 09.00 UTC
As I am using a class D  transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part of=
=20
the QRP beacon sequence  now appears as plain carrier.

Regards
=20
David



Hallo David and  LFers!=20
I have seen very poor  signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters =E2=
=80=9EMRF=E2=80=9C=20
. But it is not good  time for reception signals from UK now. I am going to=20
try this evening from  21:00UT, it will be more better time for  receiving.=20=
I=20
hope, beacon will be in  operation with 50mW.=20
GL  !=20
Lubos, OK2BVG,  JN88KS=20





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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT     style=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN     st=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN     st=
yle=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hallo David and=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN     st=
yle=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have seen very po=
or=20
  signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters =E2=80=9EMRF=E2=80=9C . Bu=
t it is not good=20
  time for reception signals from UK now. I am going to try this evening fro=
m=20
  21:00UT, it will be more better time for <SPAN     style=3D"mso-spacerun:=20=
yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>receiving. I hope, beacon will be in=20
  operation with 50mW.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Ga Dave, LF.

i say our best QSO, tu have a nice X-MAS.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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capture  vo1na??=20
time 2:30z  qrss 60
antenne dx-10
rec:rohde&schwarz ek891
henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
73s joe.

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Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
memory keyer to include "HYVAA JOULA"  
Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
My very best wishes to you.

73

Mike GW4HXO
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GW4HXO sending repeated x-mas greetings in CW on 501.15kHz, Q3 copy here.

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Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu



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Thanks Dave.
> Traces of EW6GB tonight QRSS3 on 137,705. (T copy, the letters G and B
> visible. See screenshot).
Just upgraded PA and ground.
Will active soon again.
73! M-xmas Andrej EW6GB


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Lubos,

If I am reading the screen shot correctly, it is M0BMU.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Lubomír Bobalík wrote:

> I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?



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GM LF,

Thanks again to those who sent reports & captures from last nights 
transmissions :-

Victor, Henny, Gus & Lubos.

Also thanks to those who run the grabbers :-

Dave, John & Brian.

Keep up the good work, your reports are really welcome & do help with the 
tests.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubomír Bobalík" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
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Hallo Gary and LF!
I can see your DFCW signal on 503.600kHz. Conditions are not as good as
yestreen. There is more long and deep QSB.
The weather is bad, it´s raining, temp 2°C only.

73!
Lubos, OK2BVG

****************************************************

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LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Hello group,

today i was in QSO with AA1A on 505 kHz, 5760 KM.

http://500kc.com/W0RPK_report.htm

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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Hello Brian,
so early i have already a nice copy of your signal ->
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/ct1drp_136khz_041207.jpg
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Today i use a PA0DRT MiniWhip antenna and in front of my receiver FT857
the G0MRF 136KHz Preamp (which is a big difference to yesterday where i
copied just a trace without the preamp).
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vy73
Marco
DD7PC
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

I think that is the correct locator - will check later

Hopefully, the antenna won't have a chance to dry out and need re-tuning!

The mains power is via about 130m of cable to the nearest building.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Ok Jim,

Looks like the /P qth  is at  IO91WR ?, or very close , Intresting signal
last night as the very little qsb , fine on the rain, well at least the
ground was constantly damp .. I find, if i have a shower of rain, i have to
re-tune ....

If your going to  run on 137 assume you are mains powerd ?

Graham .





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Hi Ken I suggest you are probably not driving it hard enough. Many of these
switching FETs require more than 6 volts to swich on hard and they have a
very high gate capacity so you need some current drive capability as well.
We have used a pnp-npn totem pole driver on 12v to good effect. I think
there may be troubles if you are trying to get it linear. If you are trying
to go ClassD/ E then you should not be tuning for max output but for the
correct drain wave form. I cant comment on Class A /B performance.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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Has anyone experienced problems using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using
an IRF530N into an L â C â L  output network the design parameters for the
network are input:10 ohms, output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =
12, giving, L1  38ÂľH, C1 3.7nF, L2  84ÂľH, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixed
capacitor plus a 2 gang 500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have
tried driving the MOSFET with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms
signal sitting on a +ve bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi
TF1152A/1 (50ÎŠ) power meter about three times, but when 12v is removed from
the PA and reconnected there is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power
output, but is never the same position twice, and there seems to be a very
critical adjustment of the drive to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that
looks like a sine wave, although when I have got it right there is a very
good sine wave. Any ideas anyone as to what may be going wrong?



My direct e-mail is  ken.h.wright@btinternet.com





73   Ken Wright   M0KHW    IO91TV





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Hi all.

First everybody have a nice christmas evening.

I relocated my transmitter to a new QTH, with a better vieuw to the east.
This is my first test and the tx is not verry stable, and the ERP is verry lo.
The freqency is +_ 136.318 Khz. qrs 30.

Reports are welcome.

73 
Frank PE1RRF




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Dear LF,

Screen shot of S57A (lower trace) being called by F6BWO (upper trace) at
21:52 utc this evening.

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now at 0020 peaking 539 good signal and suitable for qso but diving into qso
vy rapidly , hardly long enough out of qsb for a qso.
73 mal/g3kev

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> > At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
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Chris.
I am still about but checking the dx on 160. Not a lot doing on 500 or 136,=20=
nor is there much on the reflector, it has gone from 20 or more msgs daily t=
o two or three.
Merry Xmas cul de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris Osborn=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:26 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: lf/mf


  Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.

  Poor old Doug G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get r=
eports on his new TX.
  I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat to.

  I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies with CW I t=
ry RTTY.
  Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a contact.

  I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for ages.

  There's a new man: G0BBL,  Jan in Trowbridge who's just become active so l=
isten for him.
  Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finishing his TX so should be on soon.

  Chris G3XIZ

  mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
    All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
    Mal/G3KEV






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am still about but checking the dx on 160=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Activity is at an all-time low on 500 kHz.<BR><BR>Poor old=20=
Doug=20
  G3ZWH has been calling his head off for days trying to get reports on his=20=
new=20
  TX.<BR>I worked him 3 times one Sunday just to give him someone to chat=20
  to.<BR><BR>I put out CQ's most evenings and weekends and after no replies=20=
with=20
  CW I try RTTY.<BR>Brian G3YKB is active on RTTY so I at least get a=20
  contact.<BR><BR>I haven't heard Mal 'KEV, John 'SLV or Brian 'UNT for=20
  ages.<BR><BR>There's a new man: G0BBL,&nbsp; Jan in Trowbridge who's just=20
  become active so listen for him.<BR>Also Ken M0KHW in Luton is just finish=
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  his TX so should be on soon.<BR><BR>Chris G3XIZ<BR><BR><B><I>mal=20
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Lf,

Unidentified station observed near 137,788 kHz QRSS 30/60 at 2229 utc this
evening. Screenshot attached.

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Ed, LF,

Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO with F5WK. Your
signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
  Sent: 15 December 2007 18:52
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  Subject: LF: activity 137.7


  any activity on 137KHz.
  the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WCB.

  73 Ed DL2HRE

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e=3D2>Thanks=20
for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO with F5WK. Your signal=
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"M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any activity on 137KHz.</FONT></DIV>
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To All from PA0SE

Today I had again good reception of SAQ on=20
17.2kHz. I used a Wandel & Goltermann SLM type=20
SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz=20
with 26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.

Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square=20
loop of 1 x 1 m the signal was sufficiently over=20
the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt (25Hz I.F. bandwidth).

 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6 dB=
=B5V).
On June 30, 2002  I measured 482 microvolt/metre=20
(53.6 microvolt/metre. So the measurements are rather consistent.

This makes it possible to do some speculation as=20
to the power radiated by SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP).

The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N,=20
12.24E. Using a computer program written by=20
Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My=20
own locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of 735k=
m.

We can now enter these data into the graphs of=20
CCIR Recommendation 368-7 for ground-wave propagation. This results in:

Type of ground  dielectric constant    conductivity (mS/m)  EMRP

Perfect=20
ground          -=20
        -                            1.4kW

Land                           40=20
                     30                          3.0kW

Land                           22=20
                       3                          3.7kW

Medium=20
dry               15=20
          1                         4.7kW
ground

Dry=20
ground                  7=20
               0.3                      5.9kW
ground

If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW=20
then with an alternator output of 200kW the=20
efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D 2%.

This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at=20
such a low frequency it is  not too bad I think.

The aerial system consists of six vertical=20
radiators of 127 m high.  They are fed in phase=20
at the top and each radiator has its own loading=20
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by=20
Alexanderson) .  The total horizontal length is=20
2200 m, which is only 0.13 wavelength.  So the=20
system may have been designed to give some gain=20
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been achieved.

It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton=20
would measure the field strength outside the near=20
field area, for instance  at 5 wavelength distance, or 87km.
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be=20
assumed for calculating the EMRP (1kw produces=20
300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear way with distance).

73, Dick, PA0SE =20

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<b>To All from PA0SE<br><br>
Today I had again good reception of SAQ on 17.2kHz. I used a Wandel &amp;
Goltermann SLM type SPM-12 connected to the aerial system for 136kHz with
26nF extra in parallel with the loading coil.<br><br>
Replacing the aerial by a one-turn untuned square loop of 1 x 1 m the
signal was sufficiently over the noise to be measured at 0.155 microvolt
(25Hz I.F. bandwidth).<br><br>
 From this follows a field strength of about 429 microvolt/metre (52.6
dB=B5V).<br>
On June 30, 2002&nbsp; I measured 482 microvolt/metre (53.6
microvolt/metre. So the measurements are rather consistent.<br><br>
This makes it possible to do some speculation as to the power radiated by
SAQ (Effective Monopole Radiated Power, EMRP). <br><br>
The coordinates of SAQ are given as 57.07N, 12.24E. Using a computer
program written by Harry, PA0LQ, I find as QTH locator JO67CB. My own
locator is JO22GD. Again using Harry's program yields a distance of
735km.<br><br>
We can now enter these data into the graphs of CCIR Recommendation 368-7
for ground-wave propagation. This results in:<br><br>
<u>Type of ground</u>&nbsp; <u>dielectric constant </u>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<u>conductivity (mS/m)</u>&nbsp; <u>EMRP<br><br>
</u>Perfect ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
1.4kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
40&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.0kW<br><br>
Land&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3.7kW<br><br>
Medium
dry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4.7kW<br>
ground<br><br>
Dry
ground&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;
0.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5.9kW<br>
ground<br><br>
If we estimate from these data an EMRP of 4kW then with an alternator
output of 200kW the efficiency of the aerial system is (4/200) * 100% =3D
2%.<br><br>
This may not seem impressive but for an aerial at such a low frequency it
is&nbsp; not too bad I think.<br><br>
The aerial system consists of six vertical radiators of 127 m high.&nbsp;
They are fed in phase at the top and each radiator has its own loading
coil and earth electrode (system also designed by Alexanderson) .&nbsp;
The total horizontal length is 2200 m, which is only 0.13
wavelength.&nbsp; So the system may have been designed to give some gain
in the wanted direction I cannot see how this could have been
achieved.<br><br>
It would be nice if someone nearer to Grimeton would measure the field
strength outside the near field area, for instance&nbsp; at 5 wavelength
distance, or 87km. <br>
At that distance at 17.2km perfect ground can be assumed for calculating
the EMRP (1kw produces 300mV/m at 1km distance, decreasing in a linear
way with distance).&nbsp; <br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE </b></body>
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Henny, LF,

Thanks for the 2 captures, signal is quite strong over there, distance about 
550 Km to you Henny & to Victor who reported earlier.

Is the signal audible ??

73

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> Hello the list,
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>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
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How about a very short resonant quarter-wave helix?

Peter, G3LDO
>  
> Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?
>  
> Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an 
> opportunity where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' 
> receiver on a satellite.  However, as we will not be allowed a large 
> traditional antenna.  I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe 
> for 29MHz.
>  
> Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a 
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>  



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Subject: Re:  LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

   Thank you for the report! Very short transmissions due to bad weather.
The loop does not like being in contact with wet leaves (see picture).

73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:19 AM
Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ


Hello  Warren and LF ,

Last night , just some tests of Warren (XGJ)  . With the sight of the infos,
the conditions are not good on the east coast of the states ! I received
WD2XGJ of 21:00 to 21:40 and very short tests at 01:20 .

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

-- 
Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu





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Hello Lubos,

thank you for the report. I have increased the power of DI2BO about a week a=
go to approximately 50 mW to be better able to read the signal on the GM4SLV=
-grabber (1 Ampere antenna current into 8 m vertical antenna). Even for this=
 power level this is a very good signal.=20

Tnx, vy 73 and a Happy New Year!

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:38 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more


  Unbelievably strong signal now!

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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 27, 2007 1=
1:38=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] DI2BO once more<=
/DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN     style=3D"FONT-S=
IZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Unbelievably strong signal=20
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Hello Hall ,
I have just remade the page of the =93grabber=94 to be able to visualize
the beacons of Europe (ex: CT1DRP) that was not simple to remain in
lower part of 80% of the load of the =93PIII 750 MHz=94! it is in test
currently. I hope that each one will be able to see the signals of its
TX there.
Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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Warren
I did one at national conference a few years back- there's a thread 
worth following using the history of LF experimentation and use- you 
can take this back right to the beginnings of radio-both ham and 
commercial. There's only so much heavy technical detail that even a 
tech savvy audience can absorb - using history to spread it out can be 
a help in reducing the rate of snoring off!
Amateur operation started on LF (and MF and HF, all at the same time!) 
and the 'what goes round comes round' theme is worth exploring as 
well.
Plenty of pictures to look at always helps.
73
 Dave, ZL3FJ

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> Hello the list,
>
>  I have been asked by the Boston Amateur Radio club to do a 
> presentation on LF/MF experimentation.
> Has anyone on the list made similar presentations - does anyone have 
> any slides that they would be willing to share?
>
> tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS
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From: Dmitry <ra3yo@mail.ru>
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> Copied RA9AT on 137.776 kHz in DFCW around 18:30. Screenshot attached.
> Does anybody know the locator or QTH of this station? Did not found
> this station in any list about 137kHz stations.

It's Oleg ex RX9BS

73
Dmitry


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jay
you have now disappeared completely, have u switched off?
mal/g3kev
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> Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:03 PM
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>
>
> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jose Manuel
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>
>
>   OK Mal,
>
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal
measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
> the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.
>
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while
for an improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
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>
>       Hi all,
>
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
>
>
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Gm LF.

just cpy Chris G3XIZ in dfcw3 on 137.7KHz, it seems 2 station clg him! goog=20=
activity!!

see: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

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Hello,

G3XVL is 30 dB over my noise floor in Middelburg, Netherlands, locator JO11t=
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This can also be stated as arm chair copy on the internal speaker of my AR70=
30 with the 2.4 kHz SSB filter on.

Antenna: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip, 5 metre up.

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Hi Brian,

Still a little bit scruffy, but getting there!

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Hi J-P
Thank-you for monitoring.
73 and Happy New Year
Joe

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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Hartmut,

Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another 
schedule on CW.

John A.

Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> John,
> 
>> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
>> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
>> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
>> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
>> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
> 
> first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
> waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
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> 
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Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
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Jose
At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  OK Mal,

  Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.

  73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti





    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    Jose
    Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for an improvement.
    73 de Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message ----- 
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      Hi all,

      Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


      73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti


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Hi LF

good signal of EW6GB few minutes ago on 137.7KHz in qrss10.=20

GL 73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Sorry , still having problems with the AE switching
did run for a while , but output level un-stable

>>>> QRT AT THE MOMENT <<<<

Looking like supply voltage to  relays has fallen over the years
and the relay bank is not fully making ....

Tnx - G ..






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From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


Hi Paul-Henrik & all!
Tell me pse, what condition are you use for 503 kHz RX?

Roman
RW3ADB/KO85ro

01.12.07, 13:29, Paul-Henrik (phl@netikka.fi):

> >  HI All ,
> > If anyone's about ,,,
> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if
> > you
> > can 'see' it
> > Reports welcome
> > Tnx
> > Graham
> > G0NBD / IO83LK
> Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG=
=20
> and
> call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD"=20
> after
> some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.
> Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.
> Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if=20
> you
> will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural=20
> copy
> should be possible.
> 73's
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD

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Hi, Henny.

Sorry I missed your call at 1400z. I was messing around with the antenna and
TX, and I couldn't reply! We have had heavy icing all day, and it has upset
the antenna tuning. You were "O" copy on my 1,2m RX loop.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Dear Hartmut



Excellent result?with the PSK Hartmut.? I wonder what level of decode you managed?? A few symbols perhaps...or perhaps just a lock on the clock?

With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I suspect my ERP amy not quite be the 5mW I have estimated.

Many Thanks

David?? G0MRF??? 





Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:



73
Hartmut

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<div>Excellent result&nbsp;with the PSK Hartmut.&nbsp; I wonder what level of decode you managed?&nbsp; A few symbols perhaps...or perhaps just a lock on the clock?</div>


<div>With the recent work by Jim M0BMU, I suspect my ERP amy not quite be the 5mW I have estimated.<br>
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Many Thanks<br>
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David&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
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WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:



73
Hartmut

Locator: JO52hp

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Warren,

Perhaps there is a Vista issue...maybe some web surfing will turn it up. 
Thus far nobody else has reported audio source issues in the tests that 
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Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
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> What is " Y " transmission in DFCW30
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> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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James Moritz wrote:
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>   
This is an excellent bit of work and, as far as I am aware, is the first 
time that anyone (in all the years we have had LF allocations) has tried 
to measure the effect of different environments using similar antennas.

At one time there were a row of conifer trees along the bottom of my 
garden, which caused a reduction of antenna current when they were wet. 
The ground here comprises a thick 12ft layer of clay which provides a 
good ground at LF but becomes lossy when saturated as it is at the 
present time.
The sea is about 400m away from this QTH within the near field at 73kHz 
and the antenna was particularly good at this frequency. The 'sea 
effect' was less noticeable at the higher LF frequencies as you might 
expect.

My antenna at 500kHz is a three-band HF quad with the feeder and quad 
fed against ground using an ATU. Using EZNEC and assuming a good ground 
it gives a gain of around -20dBi. This takes into account loading coil 
losses but not environment factors measured by Jim.
I think that my antenna is probably the most inefficient in the 500kHz 
group but I don't think this is an issue because I can still achieve the 
required ERP with more transmit power, and receive sensitivity with less 
attenuation.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

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Hello  all ,

"HRE" vy srong this moment on 1377777 dfcw

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73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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ge Frank,
have a look at spiderbeam, (Germany.)=20
vy 73, Peter





  Hi all,

  I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
  The mast I used nouw is a 12.5 Meter from zk-antennen.de=20

  I remember that there was some discussion about this new mast on the refec=
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  At that time I looked, only it was verry expensif.

  Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in Japan.

  Regards Frank PE1RRF

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ge Frank,</FONT></DIV>
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QRT FROM 0200  HRS

TNX

G ..



----- Original Message -----=20
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May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




----- Original Message -----=20
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01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
> > "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=
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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12
> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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12/24/07

Good reception of SAQ this morning. Signals were at their best during the pr=
e-session tuneup, unfortunately IDs were few and far between. A clip of the=20=
pre-session with alternator coming up to frequency:

 http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122407A1A.wav

ID at end of first session:

http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122407A1B.wav

Conditions:

35 F Clear, low static levels
Antenna: 14 turn 10' Octoloop
Receiver: HP3586C SLM
Filtering: Cooledit
Report: ~439 =20

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Burlington CT USA=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good&nbsp;reception of SAQ this morning. Si=
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frequency:</FONT></DIV>
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B.wav">http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122407A1B.wav</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Conditions:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>35 F Clear,&nbsp;low static levels</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Filtering: Cooledit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Report: ~439&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay Rusgrove W1VD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Burlington CT USA</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Joe ,

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David.
I cannot answer your question. I was wondering about the satellite scene, th=
ere is never any mention in radcom about it these days.
I was vy active back in the OSCAR 6 days and also 10 and 13. I used oscar 10=
 for EU/HONGKONG comms, my call VS6HI
There are any amount of redundant geostationary satellites available and sur=
prised that amsat has not persued this approach. A small slot could surely b=
e made available. No need for expensive amateur only satellites.
Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM
  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF


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<DIV>David.</DIV>
<DIV>I cannot answer your question. I was wondering about the satellite scen=
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  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
  frequencies?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportuni=
ty=20
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  satellite.&nbsp; However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional=20
  antenna. &nbsp;I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.</=
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  <DIV>Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a=
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In reply to info@f-dijkshoorn.speedlinq.nl on Tue Dec 25 23:04:27 2007:

Sorry need to swtich off my tx, the VCO (Yesu FT 100) is not verry stable.

Frank.

> Hi all.
> 
> First everybody have a nice christmas evening.
> 
> I relocated my transmitter to a new QTH, with a better vieuw to the east.
> This is my first test and the tx is not verry stable, and the ERP is verry lo.
> The freqency is +_ 136.318 Khz. qrs 30.
> 
> Reports are welcome.
> 
> 73 
> Frank PE1RRF
> 
> 
> 





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Rudy N6LF(WD2XSH/20) in Cottage Grove Oregon and Bob W2ZM (WE2XGR/6)in Penn 
Yan NY worked tonite 03:00 UTC on 1 December for an Overland record of 
3681.83 km (2287.886 miles)!

Congrats to Bob & Rudy!

73 Warren K2ORS/ WE2XGR/1



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Hallo LFers!
I just heard 339 G3KEV on 502.500 in normal cw QSO. Conditions seams be
very good! I have never heard G station at 16:30UT.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Conditions seams be very good! I have never heard G station at 16:30UT.<o:p>=
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tu Jean-Pierre
henny pa3cpm
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Hello Henny and all ,

I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
the duration/space of the dahhh is correct , the frequency is also
corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
no cannot be sure at 100% !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a écrit :
> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> **
> *enny pa3cpm*
> *73s*




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Hello John ,
Good copy on your signal in WOLF (10)
73 qro J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to=20
> 0300Z. Note that this is the standard 10 bit/sec data rate for WOLF.=20
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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2007-12-06 23:45:20 >WOLF10  -r 44097.9 -f 9577 -t 1.0 -d 24 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.661 a: 1.5 dp: 66.6 ci: 3 cj:408 K8A1T0BO5WHKQET ?
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t:  96 f: 0.361 a: 0.1 dp: 77.1 ci: 9 cj:120 GV079P9 H8DSCD* ?
t: 192 f: 0.977 pm:1.277 jm:257 q:-15.1-13.8 RZHGENT5LL89XFX ?
t: 288 f: 0.752 pm:1.351 jm:542 q:-13.7 -8.6 BHDB/BT5*/9JHY/ ?
t: 384 f:-0.029 pm:1.868 jm:725 q: -7.2 -6.0 L*HTCXK/98P/O64 ?
t: 480 f:-0.029 pm:2.032 jm:725 q: -6.5 -7.3 RR2YSDUACMR6RIC ?
t: 576 f: 1.006 pm:2.168 jm:498 q:-11.9 -6.2 29K95MFL6CKSD9L ?
t: 672 f: 1.006 pm:2.312 jm:498 q:-11.1 -7.1 29K95MFN/???GQJ ?
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t: 864 f: 0.127 pm:2.430 jm:277 q: -8.9 -8.6 Q6MMH0A2.XNVNVL ?
t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:2.555 jm:566 q: -7.6 -8.2 W/0MD5ABPDGJZWK ?
t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:2.570 jm:566 q: -7.2 -8.2 ???21PUYZ/ZFRG3 ?
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Sorry , are not conected the antenna !......
No logger last night

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Hello ,

g3kev a =E9crit :
> long dashes on 136.319 khz. Pse try cw 20wpm or faster.
> g3kev
136 .319 it is the beacon of Brian CT1DRP in DFCW30

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Hello Brian and LF ,

CTDRP are vy trong now ! ( audible )
see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Seasons greetings all.
 
Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF  frequencies?
 
Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity  
where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a  satellite.  
However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondered if 
I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.
 
Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a  
decision?
 
Regards
 
David  G0MRF



   

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<DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
frequencies?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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Subject: [PHISH] LF: [137] last night : UA4WPF , CT1DRP , WD2XGJ , WD2XES


Hello LF ,

Last night good conditions , i copy :

UA4WPF   137.777   LO66PU (3682km) DFCW
CT1DRP     136.319    IN51NS (942km)   DFCW
WD2XGJ   137.7798 FN42HI (5536km) QRSS
WD2XES    137.577  FN42CH (5565km) WOLF

The files and captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Brian,

I ran captures overnight starting at 0300Z, and the best copy was in the 
0515 - 0600Z period (snippet attached), with the last visible characters 
around 0720Z.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Just audible signals from Finbar, GI4DPE, now at 15:30 UTC on 501.315 kHz

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>A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.
> The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface=20
> in
> English waters, so they say.
> g3kev
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i have a lot of imagination mal,

enny pa3cpm
73s
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  Henny.
  You would need a lot of imagination to identify that signal!!!!!!!!!
  g3kev

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    capture  vo1na??=20
    time 2:30z  qrss 60
    antenne dx-10
    rec:rohde&schwarz ek891
    henny pa3cpm  jo22mb
    73s joe.


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mal,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>enny pa3cpm</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 22, 2007 1=
2:39=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage=
=20
  (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You would need a lot of imagination to id=
entify=20
  that signal!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: b=
lack"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dcpm@planet.nl href=3D"mailto:cpm@planet.nl">henny van elst</A=
> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_lf_grou=
p@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 22, 2007=
 10:33=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: E-mail met bijlage=20
    (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>capture&nbsp; vo1na??=20
    </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time 2:30z&nbsp; qrss=20
    60</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>antenne dx-10</FONT></STRONG></=
DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rec:rohde&amp;schwarz=20
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    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny pa3cpm&nbsp;=20
    jo22mb</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s joe.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <P>
    <HR>

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John, LF,

Left Rx & JT2 running, the attachment shows the only time that something was 
received, I doubt if it means anything, it is my only offering.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>

> I'm going to stick WE2XGR/3's neck out tonight, and try a test of the JT2 
> mode found in Joe Taylor's WSJT program. The test will be on 508.500 kHz, 
> and will run from about 0000 to 0300 UTC.

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Hallo Hartmut!
That=B4s fine, that I can read some MW info from you, after so long time.
I hope, your informations about receiving on 500kHz will be continue.=20

73 on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:40 AM
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Subject: LF: WD2XGJ

The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


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Hi LF

Last night i copy  :  137778.4 UA9CS
                                  137777.2 UA4WPF

Dmitry
ra3yo



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Very interesting and enlightening reading Jim!

Thank you for putting all the effort into this test and sharing your results
with us. There is no "schoolbook" for the average city/suburban lot situatio=
n
and this test provides very welcome information.

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:

> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expecte=
d
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are=20=
in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences withi=
n
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actua=
l
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff =3D 7.9m. Both antennas used grou=
nd
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, whi=
ch
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using=
 a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz=
.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 oh=
ms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The avera=
ge
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculat=
ed
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant =3D 400mA, Calculated ERP =3D  88mW, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency =3D 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant =3D 380mA, Calculated ERP =3D 74mW, Measured ERP=20=
=3D
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3D3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant =3D 3.9A, Calculated ERP =3D 0.62W, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency =3D 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant =3D 3A, Calculated ERP =3D 0.34W, Measured ERP=20=
=3D 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to t=
he
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For th=
e
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively hig=
h
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coi=
l
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much bett=
er
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna i=
n,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistanc=
e
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, th=
e
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to t=
he
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence=20=
in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistanc=
e
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck wit=
h
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths o=
f
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Yet again, I am testing my station in beacon mode. The last few times 
I have tried this, I have had spaks and have had to rebuild parts of 
the station. The latest rebuild is the mast-top inductor (4mH).

This evening from now (1900) to about 2230, I will transmit QRSS60 on 
136.31875kHz.

This is just a test of the new coil. If all is well, I will make 
longer transmissions and aim to transmit overnight at the weekend.

Mike, G3XDV
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137777.0 : DL2HRE   ( good signal )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( nil)
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )
136319.8 : F4DTL     ( good signal )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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73s








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WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
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Thanks to all who reported last night. Hartmut was, of course, the 
distance champion!

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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:


> 136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )

Hi Jean-Pierre,
the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
pulling the
wires down.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Someone active last nite on 137.7 khz at 2200 utc qrs 3. Too broken up to 
read, but appeared to be sending cq ending with k
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Now cq at 1925z on 137.7 khz qrs 3 weak but good copy with qsb
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Hello Ted ,

Ted Holdahl a =E9crit :
> It's probably not me but I am transmitting on 137.777 kHz.=20
>  =20
I will have liked that this silk your signal, but it is only that of RA3YO

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello Ted ,<br>
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Ted Holdahl a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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Thank-you J-P for monitoring.
The TX is still active.

Happy new year to everyone.

Joe Vo1NA

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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> 73 J-P f1afj
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Just some further comments: I am talking about the GM4SLV-grabber
(http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm).

I used to have a measured 1.7 mW ERP with a more or less unknown antenna
current. Using some of the the recent observations of  Jim, M0BMU and some
of Rik's (ON4YD) formulas I estimate that the radiation resistance of my 8 m
vertical with an 8 m horizontal top load radial to be in the 70 mOhm range.
I have increased the antenna current now to 1 Ampere which corresponds to an
ERP of about 70 mW. I will try to make some field measurments later to
confirm this. Anyhow, the powe is sufficient to be copied by John's grabber
from time to time.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de>
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> Hello John,
>
> thanks for putting up your grabber on the internet.
>
> I am currently observing DI2BO's signal in comparison to other signals on
th
> air. It is intersting to see how big the QSB can be from one minute to the
> other. DI2AM seems to be stable throughout the day, DI2BO's signal with
much
> less ERP (my best guess is in the 100 mW range with a 1 Ampere antenna
> current) can only be seen from time to time, but sometimes it comes up
> almost as strong as DI2AM.
>
> The distance is around 1100 km.
>
> Again, thanks for providing this service. Best 73 and a Merry Christmas!
>
> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
>
>
>



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John,

>  The results do not
> show the frequent fades so common on the shorter paths. Very interesting!

the results are a bit amazing. I did not expected this consistent copy
of your signal. For a comparison a QRSS signal from the north-eastern
US would have been useful. But I lost Dave, XSH/17 about 23:50. I
think he went QRT.

Indeed a very interesting test.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Zitat von Karl-Heinz Gansel <softrock@dl6ebs.de>:

> Good Morning Uwe,
>
> i was listening this morning ~9:20h - 10:07h  to your beacon at 
> 136.319khz. Your signal was audiable and about 15db - 20db over qrm.
>
> QTH: JO31HS
> Ant: Aktiv antenna OP27, 14m High
> Receiver. Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
> Spectrum Lab
>
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>

Thanks for that Karl-Heinz.
the QRG is GPS disciplined standard on 136,318.515kHz measured with a GPS
disciplined counter (Peak Tech 2840).
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



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Has anyone had any success, or otherwise, with the WSJT JT2 or JT4 modes on
LF?

Joe would love to hear of any LF use of these. Also I'd like to include
something, in Feb's Data coluumn in RadCom.   It looks ideal - narrow
bandwidth, constant amplitude, good error correction.   Joe reckons a
similar performance to JT65, and after monitoring GB3VHF and the GB3RALs, it
does have considerable low noise performance - well below audibility - so
probably 10dB better than normal CW .   JT2 and 4 can be used with narrower
bandwidths, still, so a further proportional enhancement should be seen.

Also, is there much PSK31 used? I see from the reflector that there seems to
be plenty of narrow shift  RTTY, but with more people using linear
transverters on 500kHz, PSK31 probably ought to have the edge.

-- 
Andy  G4JNT
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<div>Has anyone had any success, or otherwise, with the WSJT JT2 or JT4 modes on LF? </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Joe would love to hear of any LF use of these. Also I&#39;d like to include something,&nbsp;in Feb&#39;s Data coluumn in RadCom.&nbsp;&nbsp; It looks ideal - narrow bandwidth, constant amplitude, good error correction.&nbsp;&nbsp; Joe reckons a similar performance to JT65, and after monitoring GB3VHF and the GB3RALs, it does have considerable low noise performance - well below audibility - so probably 10dB better than normal CW .&nbsp;&nbsp; JT2 and 4 can be used with narrower bandwidths, still, so&nbsp;a further&nbsp;proportional enhancement should be seen.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, is there much PSK31 used?&nbsp;I see from&nbsp;the reflector that there seems to be plenty of narrow shift &nbsp;RTTY, but with more people using linear transverters on 500kHz, PSK31 probably ought to have the edge.<br><br>-- 
<br>Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;G4JNT<br><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a> </div>

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Hi Laurie,

comparing screenshots again, the drifting trace can positively be identified=
 as part of the AQC transmission around 21:25:

http://members.aol.com/df6nm/lf/dx/3dx00000_071225_2158.jpg (Singapore)
http://members.aol.com/df6nm/lf/dx/testEu071225_2200_inserted.jpg (Nuernberg=
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Wishing the best of luck -
Markus, DF6NM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: lawrence mayhead=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM
  Subject: LF: Grabber


  Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
  I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice=20
  traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21=
:00
  could this have been PE1RRF ?=20
  Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are gettin=
g to be=20
  good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now seve=
ral days
  since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapo=
re pre-dawn.=20
  May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.
  Merry Christmas to all.
  Laurie.G3AQC.=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Laurie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>comparing screenshots again, the drifting t=
race can=20
positively be identified as part of the AQC transmission around=20
21:25:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://members.aol.com/df6nm/l=
f/dx/3dx00000_071225_2158.jpg">http://members.aol.com/df6nm/lf/dx/3dx00000_0=
71225_2158.jpg</A>&nbsp;(Singapore)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing the&nbsp;best of&nbsp;luck -</FONT>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dlaurie.mayhead@googlemail.com     href=3D"mailto:laurie.mayhead=
@googlemail.com">lawrence mayhead</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 26, 2007=20=
9:33=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Grabber</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial     size=3D2></=
FONT><BR></DIV>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<BR>I also saw the very clear=20
  "O"&nbsp; on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice <BR>traces lower on=20
  318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<BR>could thi=
s=20
  have been PE1RRF ? <BR>Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I beliv=
e=20
  conditions are getting to be <BR>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst risin=
g=20
  towards zero and it is now several days<BR>since the last disturbance. So=20=
I=20
  will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn. <BR>May have to shif=
t=20
  freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.<BR>Merry Christmas to=20
  all.<BR>Laurie.G3AQC. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Hi LF

Last night i copy  :  136318 G3AQC

Dmitry
ra3yo



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Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
Otherwise the information is misleading
G3KEV

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> tu Jean-Pierre
> henny pa3cpm
> gl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): vo1na2212.jpg
>
>
> Hello Henny and all ,
>
> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
> the duration/space of the dahhh is correct , the frequency is also
> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a écrit :
> > *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
> > **
> > *enny pa3cpm*
> > *73s*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date:
21/12/2007 13:17
>
>


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capture wd2xgj 01:15z
henny pa3cpm
73s

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Tnx Paul for the report. Hpe to work u agn soon xband
Merry xmas HNY
de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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Hello Mal & LF

You are a honest 579 here in Vaasa at 17.18UTC calling CQ on 502.5kHz

No HF TX available here at the moment.


73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> Hi all
> Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of
acty.
> The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
> I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
>






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Hello John , Warren and LF ,

Good copy of :

WD2XGJ ( vy strong in QRSS60 )
WD2XES ( vy strong in Graphical mode ??? )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Thanks J-P!  Merry Christmas everyone!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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>
> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
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Hello Nicolas ,
Justement j'=E9tais en train de rechercher qui pouvait transmettre un "L"=20
sur cette fr=E9quence ! en g=E9n=E9ral le "L" c' est RU6LA ! mais je ne suis=
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au 295=B0 , c'est bien 300 km en qrp bravo bon d=E9but .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

F4DTL@aol.com a =E9crit :
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Hello Dave,
I just listen to your signal the last 30min. (23:30-00:00) and had a
copy of your call -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/g3wcb_503_85_141207.JPG
Receiver here only Yaesu FT-857 and PA0DRT Miniwhip.

Vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

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Dear LF,

G3WCB is in beacon mode from 2200 to 0000 utc tonight. QRSS3 with 9WPM
CW i/d on 503.850 kHz

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Good copy of SAQ this morning. Screen capture and audio excerpt here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/saq_2007_12_24.html

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


73
Hartmut
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Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental time, Please?

Manuel Santos EA4BVZ


2007/12/14, Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
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<div>Dod you mind 9.00h, european continental&nbsp;time, Please?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Manuel Santos EA4BVZ<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">2007/12/14, Peter March &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
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<div>I did it again!!!!!!</div>
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<div>Not for the first time, and possible not for the last, I made a misstak=
e in calculating&nbsp;Swedish time into UTC&nbsp;time for the Christmas Eve=20=
transmission.</div>
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<div>The correct time should be: <strong>08.00 UTC</strong> and <strong>08:1=
5 UTC</strong>.</div>
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<div>I am terrible sorry!</div>
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Hello Brian,
I sought in my files it captures of your old will qra, I never received
you so extremely !.....  JN06HT=3D>IN51NS =3D 936 km with the qtf 236=B0,
I am very well released in this direction, the relief is with more than
500 km ! PLEASE which are your new conditions ? Thank you very much
for this return on 137 Khz .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Brian Rogerson a =E9crit :
> Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
> Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
> who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>
> My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
> than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is=20
> located
> on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>
> If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
> be grateful to learn.
>
> For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site=20
> http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>
> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
> At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>> Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>
>> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>> after rebuilding system at new location.
>>
>> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>
>> Reports welcome.
>>
>> Brian CT1DRP
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Greetings - we are off again into the wild bloo yonder so the 9V1 grabbers w=
ill be on auto for a period.=20
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One R75 is set to 10.140 MHz QRSS and the other  centered in 136.318Khz +24h=
rs for Eu - If the system freezes up so be it.
=20
A very happy Christmas to you all - looks like another house/radio move in Q=
3 2008 and probably a continuation of limited antennae opportunities.....
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Vy 73 Laurence 9V1 LF
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Greetings - we are off again into the wild bloo yonder&nbsp;so the 9V1 grabb=
ers will be on auto for a period. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
One R75&nbsp;is set to&nbsp;10.140 MHz&nbsp;QRSS&nbsp;and the other &nbsp;ce=
ntered in 136.318Khz +24hrs for Eu - If the system freezes up so be it.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
A very happy Christmas to you all - looks like another house/radio move in Q=
3 2008 and probably a continuation of limited antennae opportunities.....<BR=
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Vy 73 Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> The loop does not like being in contact with wet leaves (see picture).
>
Wahoooo ! they is dangerous to make radio! a chance that it is with
moisture , because one could put fire !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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It's probably not me but I am transmitting on 137.777 kHz.=20
Ted, WD2XYW

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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> Hello Hall ,
> Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this
frequency ?
> See picture !
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

RA3YO

73
Hartmut
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Error of  subject  sorry

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello LF ,
>
> This evening , good copy of beacon CT1DRP  , see picture .
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

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Hi all
An interesting night/early morning for transatlantic dx.
XGR/6 in and out of qsb from abt 2358utc until I went qrt at 0130 utc. The
sig peaked a few times but was good at 0045/0049 utc and long enough for a
short qso in normal CW.
XGR/2 appeared briefly at 0054/55 utc then disappeared but at least the
signal did appear in Scarborough which is a good distance to travel.
I was pleased to hear that Finbar/GI4DPE had a qso with XGR/6, he has a nice
atlantic sea path from Derry to the USA/Canada.
At best XGR/6 was 549 with me at 0045/49 utc again good for the distance.
Obstacles on this band seem to be QSB and at times QRN at the USA end.
 Because of the brevity of the signal peaks,  CW at a reasonable speed 10/20
wpm is the only sensible mode to use. Very slow QRS with x second dots etc
would not work because of the QSB.
73 to all until the next time.
de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough/NE COAST/ENGLAND

























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Hello  Warren and LF ,

Last night , just some tests of Warren (XGJ)  . With the sight of the infos,
the conditions are not good on the east coast of the states ! I received
WD2XGJ of 21:00 to 21:40 and very short tests at 01:20 .

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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NIL in Moscow.



03.12.07, 21:26, Brian Rogerson (brian@esoterica.pt):



> Good evening LF enthusiasts,

> CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30

> after rebuilding system at new location.

> Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

> Reports welcome.

> Brian CT1DRP



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73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Hello Hall ,

What is "unreadable transmission" ??

20:35 > 21:25 on ~136.3175

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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OK Andy, thanks.

Jos=E9, EA1PX




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jose -

I don't know, not being anywhere near the actual site.  However, I've
forwarded this to Keith G0WYS who should be able to tell you all you
need to know...

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt




On 02/12/2007, Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:
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>
> Can you confirm me if the GB3SSS transmission polarization, on 3597 kHz,=20
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> fully horizontal?
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> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
>
>



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Dear Ken.
=20
I can only guess that the "never in the same positiion twice" is an =20
indication that you have oscillation and not amplification.
I have used the L C L network with success on bipolar transistors but with =20
mixed results with FETs.   You will get some very high voltages from  the=20
inductor connected to the drain, especially if the design Q is too  high.  P=
ossibly=20
this is killing the FET.
Can I suggest that a 1:4 broadband bifilar transformer would be a lot more =20
successful.   I have built many of these for driving larger amplifiers  and=20
also for driving the grids or cathodes of valve amps.  They seem quite  reli=
able=20
but would need a LPF after the transformer.
=20
Regards
=20
David  G0MRF
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=20
=20
In a message dated 11/12/2007 10:57:58 GMT Standard Time, =20
ken.h.wright@btinternet.com writes:

Has anyone experienced problems  using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am usin=
g=20
an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=93 C =E2=80=93 L  output network the design para=
meters for the=20
network are input:10 ohms,  output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q=20=
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d capacitor=20
plus a 2 gang  500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have tried=20
driving the MOSFET  with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms signal=
 sitting=20
on a +ve  bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi TF1152A/1 (50=CE=
=A9)=20
power meter  about three times, but when 12v is removed from the PA and=20
reconnected there  is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power output, bu=
t is never=20
the same  position twice, and there seems to be a very critical adjustment o=
f=20
the drive  to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that looks like a sine wave,=
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although  when I have got it right there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas=
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anyone as  to what may be going wrong? =20






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reliable but would need a LPF after the transformer.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 11/12/2007 10:57:58 GMT Standard Time,=20
ken.h.wright@btinternet.com writes:</DIV>
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yle=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has anyone experienced problems=20
  using an IRF530N in a 500kHz PA?. I am using an IRF530N into an L =E2=80=
=93 C =E2=80=93 L=20
  &nbsp;output network the design parameters for the network are input:10 oh=
ms,=20
  output 50 ohms, centre frequency 502.5 kHz, Q =3D 12, giving, L1 &nbsp;38=
=C2=B5H, C1=20
  3.7nF, L2 &nbsp;84=C2=B5H, C1 consists of a 3.3nF fixed capacitor plus a 2=
 gang=20
  500pF variable, 3mH inductor in the drain. I have tried driving the MOSFET=
=20
  with a 5v positive peak signal, and with a 3v rms signal sitting on a +ve=20
  bias, I have managed to obtain 5w into a Marconi TF1152A/1 (50=CE=A9) powe=
r meter=20
  about three times, but when 12v is removed from the PA and reconnected the=
re=20
  is no output, C1 is adjusted for maximum power output, but is never the sa=
me=20
  position twice, and there seems to be a very critical adjustment of the dr=
ive=20
  to obtain, a) an output, b) anything that looks like a sine wave, although=
=20
  when I have got it right there is a very good sine wave. Any ideas anyone=20=
as=20
  to what may be going wrong?=20
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Hallo Gary and LF!
I can see your DFCW signal on 503.600kHz. Conditions are not as good as
yestreen. There is more long and deep QSB.=20
The weather is bad, it=B4s raining, temp 2=B0C only.

73!
Lubos, OK2BVG

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:20 PM
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LF,

Sorry, failed to state frequency but as last night on 503.600 KHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,

it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.

Regards and seasons greetings to all

Markus, DF6NM
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  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:35 AM
  Subject: LF: LF grabber


  =20
  Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones
  =20
  The Singapore grabber is still operational on "auto" until our return from=
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  The window is still 136,316 to 136,321.5 KHz  link http://www.kl1x.com/3dx=
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  Times are GMT - and local time is GMT +8
  =20
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  Laurence 9V1 LF
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Regards and seasons greetings to all</FONT></DIV>
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Hello David!
That=B4s fine, I will be QRV, so I hope I will see your signal.
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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In a message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time,
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz writes:
Hello Lubos.
Thank you for the report, I have switched the beacon off this morning so
as not to cause QRM to my 'LF neighbours' here in London.

I will switch on again tonight from 22.00. to 09.00 UTC
As I am using a class D transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part
of the QRP beacon sequence now appears as plain carrier.
Regards
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David

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Hallo David and LFers!
I have seen very poor signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters
"MRF" . But it is not good time for reception signals from UK now. I am
going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be more better time for
receiving. I hope, beacon will be in operation with 50mW.
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GL !
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial id=3D"role_doc=
ument"><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello=20=
David!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That=B4s fine, I will b=
e QRV, so I hope I
will see your signal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
*<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>G0MRF@aol.co=
m<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 26,=
 2007
10:58 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: LF 500 G0MRF=
 Beacon</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>In a
message dated 26/12/2007 05:31:19 GMT Standard Time, lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Lubos.</span><=
/font><font  color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you for the re=
port, I have switched
the beacon off this morning so as not to cause QRM to my 'LF neighbours' her=
e
in London.<br>
<br>
I will switch on&nbsp;again tonight&nbsp;from 22.00.&nbsp;to 09.00 UTC<br>
As I am using a class D transmitter to generate the 50mW, the PSK31 part of=20=
the
QRP beacon sequence now appears as plain carrier.</span></font><font  color=
=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</blockquote>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

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y  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy=
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e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;  color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></f=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnav=
y  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy=
'>David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><font color=
=3Dnavy><span  style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hallo David and LFer=
s!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have seen very poo=
r signal on 503.700kHz
and I identificete letters &#8222;MRF&#8220; . But it is not good time for r=
eception
signals from UK now. I am going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be
more better time for<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>receiving. I=
 hope,
beacon will be in operation with 50mW.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL !<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;  margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88K=
S<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Yes, I agree Mal

Sending long "initial calls" sometimes during low-activity periods would at
least give others something to listen to.

Worked GI3PDN and GI4DPE X-band two days ago. GI4DPE is using a small 5 metr=
e
tall antenna atm. so it was a challenge in the QSB. GI3PDN was quite strong=20=
in
QSB peaks.

I wouldn't mind adding some activity on 600m myself but our authorities are
unfortunately still not of that opinion. They have not yet made any official
statements on the matter after the new GMDSS resolution was agreed in
WRC-07.(The part of interest in the resolution was no mentioning of 500kHz a=
s
an emergency traffic QRG anymore).

600m condx tonight seem much better than yesterday, already a faint copy her=
e of
GI4DPE's initial calls and it is only 18.00UTC.

Don't give up 600m now, there will be only one chance to secure a slice of i=
t
before the commercials are dictating the rules.

73's to all LF

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ





Quoting mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> All at lf/mf acty vy low, even the reflector has dried up.
> Mal/G3KEV
>
>




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Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev


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NIL in Moscow, Gary. -(





08.12.07, 23:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi Roman, LF,

> Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about=20

> 2300 utc or a little later.

> Keep watching please.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:34 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500 DFCW

> > Hi Gary & LF!

> >

> >

> >

> > Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

> >

> > QRSS10.

> >

> >

> >

> > Did not copy your signal, Gary.

> >

> > Your TX is off now?

> >

> >

> >

> > 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):

> >

> >

> >

> >> Hi LF,

> >

> >> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> >

> >> Reports welcome.

> >

> >> 73

> >

> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > 73!

> >

> > Roman, RW3ADB

> >

> >

> >=20



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Hello  all on LF ,

I have just started my grabber, the antenna is with the QTF 55=B0
in direction of Asia, I will commutate the antenna with the QTF
285=B0 in direction of America to 21:00 UTC.
grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu





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Copied RA9AT on 137.776 kHz in DFCW around 18:30. Screenshot attached.
Does anybody know the locator or QTH of this station? Did not found
this station in any list about 137kHz stations.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp

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Hi Henny ,
Send to me your capture on line to :  1afj[At]online.fr
so that compares the scale of the temp  (with what I already received)
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *capture  vo1na?? *
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long dashes on 136.319 khz. Pse try cw 20wpm or faster.
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  "dl2hre" <dl2hre@arcor.de> schrieb: 
Gm Finbar, LF, MF. good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 501.3KHz.
till 0730utc readable.at 0735utc lost the signal. 73 Ed DL2HRE
JO51TQGiDPE has also been received audible in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria,
at 20.15 UTC, 23.03 UTC, and 00.05 UTC, with some QSB, over the night
December 16th to 17th, 2007.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gm Finbar, LF, MF.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 
501.3KHz.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>till&nbsp;0730utc readable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>at 0735utc lost the signal.</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Paul-Henrik!
Thanks for confirming of my guess. Conditions aren=B4t so good, but it is
advantageous for my receiving tests.
GN
Lubos, OK2BVG

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:45 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: [500] GI4DPE

Hello Lubos!

Yes, it is Finbar testing a very small antenna. 5 metres high with a
topload
consisting of an inductance + 4 x 6m top hat wires. He also uses some
base
loading on it.

I could copy the callsign by ear during a few 5min periods this evening.
The 10s
dashes between callsigns stand out well on your FFT and mine looks the
same.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo Finbar and ALL!
> I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
> configuration of my program for QRSS3.
>
> GL and 73
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>


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John,

> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .

first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.


73
Hartmut



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Thanks to Gary and Hartmut for the reports last night. I have pointed 
Joe Taylor to the .wav files that Hartmut recorded, as he was interested 
in them.

WD2XES will run JT2 on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 2130 until 0000 
UTC, and then move up to 137.779 for more conventional operation.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Strong Brian tonight, yu 're audible in JN18.Could yu describe yur LF  
station ?
 
 
Best 73  from F4DTL 

RX:  Icom 7400
Ant: mini  whip PA0RDT



   

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Merci Jean-Pierre.  Bon chance!
Joe

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe  ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> Nil for VO1NA
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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received vy strong signs from (U4)WPF and RA3YA last night.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx
PS. Markus, ich hatte in der vorletzten Nacht die falsche Richtung der K9AY
geschaltet.




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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

> Hi Uwe ,
>
> uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
>> the "vy" good signal has been caused by "vy" thick hoarfrost layers=20
>> pulling the
>> wires down.
> "vy" =3D very in English  =3D  sehr auf Deutsch !  ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
"vy" 73 Jean-Pierre




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Mal ,
Here it there not a report ! Just an observation with accompanying notes,
whose rule is known and diffused! There is no fallacious information! ......
f1afj

mal a =E9crit :
> Only report what is there, NOT what you think should be there.
> Otherwise the information is misleading
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "henny van elst" <cpm@planet.nl>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:22 PM
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>
>  =20
>> tu Jean-Pierre
>> henny pa3cpm
>> gl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:53 PM
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>>
>> Hello Henny and all ,
>>
>> I analyzed well your capture, the synchro with time UTC is correct,
>> the duration/space of the =93dahhh=94 is correct , the frequency is also
>> corecte !...... It is in perfect agreement with the signal of Joe,
>> I think that this signal is certainly that of Joe ! Even with all that
>> no cannot be sure at 100% !
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> *i have a lot of imagination mal,*
>>> **
>>> *enny pa3cpm*
>>> *73s*
>>>      =20
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
>  =20

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Hi Jean Pierre,
Many thanks for the report and screen shots, what a pile up !
So lucky that we all managed to avoid giving each other QRM.
Pity that conditions we not so good I saw nothing on Laurence's grabber.
I am sorry if my signal causes your excellent receiver some difficulty.
When the signal leaves the vert. part of my Ant.at 080degrees on its way
to Singapore (I wish) it passes with some difficulty through many trees
but then it goes over open water for about 1 Km,  then over fields etc.
after about  30/40 Km  it crosses the coast, now it is again open sea
for 100Km until it reaches France. So you see there is not much to stop it
Hi!
I hope you had a Bon Noel, 73 Laurie.

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Hi Jean Pierre,<br>Many thanks for the report and screen shots, what a pile up !<br>So lucky that we all managed to avoid giving each other QRM.<br>Pity that conditions we not so good I saw nothing on Laurence&#39;s grabber.
<br>I am sorry if my signal causes your excellent receiver some difficulty. <br>When the signal leaves the vert. part of my <a href="http://Ant.at">Ant.at</a> 080degrees on its way<br>to Singapore (I wish) it passes with some difficulty through  many trees
<br>but then it goes over open water for about 1 Km,&nbsp; then over fields etc.<br>after about&nbsp; 30/40 Km&nbsp; it crosses the coast, now it is again open sea<br>for 100Km until it reaches France. So you see there is not much to stop it Hi!
<br>I hope you had a Bon Noel, 73 Laurie. &nbsp;  <br>

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GI4DPE NW CQ ON 500 AND QSX FOR U ON 3533

MAL/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Finbar,
> actually I have a good copy of your beacon on 501.38 KHz. Are you around
to try a Crossband QSO?
>
> many thanks
> regards
> Marco
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
> Direct: +49 69 1366 1214
> Mobile: +49 171 866 1214
> Fax: +49 69 1366 1536
> mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com
>


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137kHz: Captured the T/A signal from WD2XES and WD2XGJ. From EU on
137.7 in QRSS3 F6BWO and DN1VLF.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Poor copy of the CW-signal from WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz.
Readable for a few minutes around 01:40. Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on
505.259 kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF and G4WGT.

Captures can be seen here:
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73
Hartmut
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Hello Wolf good copy at end of this afternoon DK4U on  137700.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

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I'm going to stick WE2XGR/3's neck out tonight, and try a test of the 
JT2 mode found in Joe Taylor's WSJT program. The test will be on 508.500 
kHz, and will run from about 0000 to 0300 UTC.

This is a weak signal mode, probably comparable to WOLF in many 
respects. WSJT comes from the VHF/UHF weak signal domain, and is a bit 
unfriendly to learn. I have written up some simple instructions for 
receiving that may help:
http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm

As noted on that page, transmission will not be continuous, but on the 
even minutes only, and then for 47 seconds out of the minute.

All reports are welcome, and feel free to email me directly with any 
questions. Reception should be easy in the eastern U.S. at this power 
level. The question is whether it can be copied at greater distances.

For those who are offended by this sort of thing, there will be plenty 
of CW signals on 600 meters tonight, and please spare me your rants.

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Hello Brian and LF ,
This morning the sun is raised , the signal is very good !
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Good copy from start to finish..

RX - MacKay Marine 3021A 0-30mhz Receiver

ANT - East/West 2000' longwire.

Happy Holidays to all..

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Jose
At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jose Manuel=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:54 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: 507.3 WE2XGR/6


  OK Mal,=20

  Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measure=
d here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied on=20=
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  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    Jose
    Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while for=
 an improvement.
    73 de Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
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      Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:21 PM
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      Hi all,

      Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


      73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at present=20=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here as=
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  The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal fro=
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This morning SAQ was received with good aural copy in the South Western part=
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Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E
Locator: JO11tm

Receiver:
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Hello the list,

  I have been asked by the Boston Amateur Radio club to do a presentation on 
LF/MF experimentation.
Has anyone on the list made similar presentations - does anyone have any 
slides that they would be willing to share?

tnx & 73 Warren K2ORS




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Henny, Jean-Pierre,
 Thank you for the reports and captures!

WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05 UTC!
Sunset here 21:12 UTC.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:00 AM
  Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj1312.jpg


  capture xgj  0:30z
  henny cpm
  73s

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Hi Waren LF.

yesterday at 23utc nice cpy of XGJ, it started at 2245utc with full "XGJ". n=
o picture made sri.

73 merry christmas Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Waren LF.</FONT></DIV>
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Reino
It seems to be working now. Merry Xmas to all including the reindeer,
bringing all the new radios to merry old England
73 de Mal/G3KEV

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> Reflector seems to work, Merry Xmas to Mal!   73 Reino, OH7OL.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:03 PM
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>
>
> > Is there a problem with the reflector, not getting any msgs
> > G3KEV
> >


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tu Jean-Pierre.

I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
start now.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
----- Original Message -----=20
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> Hello  all ,
>
> "HRE" vy srong this moment on 1377777 dfcw
>
> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:
> Greetings all
>=20
> Mal: Maybe your countrymen are busy working Russia on 144 MHz / CW /=20
> troposcatter this moment (not kidding, wkd GM4ODA/p on the Shetlands, =20
> OY9JD / Faroe, UA2 .. UT2 yesterday, and these conditions still last=20
> today).
> Amateur radio at it's best...

Yes, it is a great tropo'. Yesterday evening there was a text rolling=20
across the top of our TV picture "Your TV reception may be affected by=20
atmospheric disturbances". That's usually a good sign of great CONDX on=20
the off-topic bands :-)

73
Johan


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T/A enthusiasts

WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz cw beacon on at 2200Z . Reports from EU would be appreciated. Beacon will be
operational until at least 0030Z.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Pse give the qrg of 500 khz stns.
g3kev

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> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00. Strong signal here from
> UA4WPF on 137.7772. WD2XGJ was visible about 21:20-07:50 with some
> strong peaks.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Brief weak copy of the CW signals from WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6.
> Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW and QRSS3.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.
The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in
English waters, so they say.
g3kev


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Subject: Re: LF: -HELP-  MMANA-GAL   Antenna analyzer .... can anyone'code' an array ?
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Ok Thanks for that Rik,

Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout .. I 
see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on the ae is 
it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a  element could 
be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it .. that way you 
could control where the coil  was placed

My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section , if i 
could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the earth 
system would be the other half  hihi

Tnx

Graham ..




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From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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> Graham,
>
> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
> adapted for 500kHz.
> Maybe that will be of some help.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>
>>
>>
>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>
>>
>>
>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>
>>
>>
>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>>
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> G0NBD
>
>
>
>
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Hello  all on LF ,

I copy  now :

136318.0 : DJ8WX ( cover by the signal of CT1DRP )

136318.0 : CT1DRP ( has prblemes of handling and slipped on 136318 )

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht









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Ga LF.

just cpy Michel F5WK on 137.71KHz in qrss3 mode.

Loc hr JO51TQ

73 Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just cpy Michel F5WK on 137.71KHz in qrss3=20
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Hello JP F1AFJ on yur grabber : L = F4DTL beacon  QRP.
 
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Thanks Markus - captures are hopefully being archived for review, some akin=20=
to the last Florida USA presendential election 'reviews'
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Now on route to EA8 for a few days.
=20
Laurence G4DMA/mobile


From: markusvester@aol.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Tue, 25 Dec=20=
2007 22:30:39 +0000Subject: LF: Re: LF grabber



Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
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it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore around 20:08 tonight.
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Regards and seasons greetings to all
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Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Laurence KL1X=20
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Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: LF: LF grabber
 Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones The Singapore grabber i=
s still operational on "auto" until our return from here in Sussex UK The wi=
ndow is still 136,316 to 136,321.5 KHz  link http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jp=
g Times are GMT - and local time is GMT +8  Laurence 9V1 LFaka G4DMA in Sogg=
y East Grinstead W Sussex.  =20

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Thanks Markus - captures are hopefully being archived for review, some akin=20=
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Now on route to EA8 for a few days.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Laurence and Dmitry,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>it looks like "YO" was partly received in Singapore=20=
around 20:08 tonight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Regards and seasons greetings to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B> <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:hellozeroh=
ellozero@hotmail.com">Laurence KL1X</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:3=
5 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: LF grabber</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones=
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The Singapore grabber is still operational on "auto" until our=
 return from here in Sussex UK<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The window is still 136,316 to 1=
36,321.5 KHz&nbsp; link <A href=3D"http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jpg" target=
=3D_blank>http://www.kl1x.com/3dx00000.jpg</A>&nbsp;<BR>Times are GMT - and=20=
local time is GMT +8<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>aka G4DMA in=20=
Soggy East Grinstead W Sussex.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>
<HR>
Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. <A href=3D"http://=
www.windowslive.com/?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007" target=
=3D_blank>Get it now!</A> =3D </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />Don't ge=
t caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! <a href=3D'http://club.li=
ve.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=3Dchick_wlhmtextlink1_dec' target=3D'_new'>Che=
ck it out!</a></body>
</html>=3D

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Hi Hartmut,

  Thanks for the report and captures!
What time is your sunrise?
73 Warren K2oRS/WD2XGJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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Subject: LF: WD2XGJ


> The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
>


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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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Dr Mal! Ur rprt is nw 559 in jo31 hp on 502,5 Khz !Pse listen on 3533 Khz Vy
73 Arnim DL1EIE

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von mal
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007 13:46
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Betreff: LF: LF/MF

Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev


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Yes Spiderbeam was the name where I was searching four.

Nice pictures and web site Fabian.

Thanks All.
73, Frank PE1RRF.


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 08:56:51PM +0100, Frank Dijkshoorn. wrote:
>> I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
> 
> http://spiderbeam.net/
> 
> The 18m mast is 219 EUR. Not cheap, but those Spiderbeam masts are a
> lot more rugged and stable than anything else I have used so far.
> 
> 73,
> -- 
> Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
>


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The signal has very little fading, so far no more than 2 dB.
02-12-2007 21:10 UTC

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Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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Hello LF ,

CT1DRP is currently visible, I put it on my grabber into
provisional in lower part of window T/A  , see grabber at :
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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hello the list,

     Good conditions tonight on LF!  WD2XGJ strong copy from Oregon to 
France.
For details see:
http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ



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Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.
 
Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage  
will be back on.
 
ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.
 
Merry Christmas
 
David



   

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Henny,

  Thanks for the nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  nice capture wd2xgj
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Hello David,

The pa0rdt-Mini-Whip was designed as a low noise reception antenna at LF, be=
cause at my location a loop antenna appeared to pick up to much noise.
This type of antenna does work very well at low frequencies, in fact it exce=
ls at VLF.
On the other end of the spectrum, reception drops off above 20 MHz, though I=
 have received signals up to 50 MHz.
The frequency response of the buffer amplifier is flat to at least 100 MHz,=20=
so this is not the cause of degraded performance versus frequency.

Hajo, DJ1ZB, has done some computer analyses, but his work does not confirm=20=
a decrease in performance up to 100 MHz.

The capacitance of the probe and the input capacitance of the FET form a vol=
tage devider for rf.
Theoretical this should also give a flat frequency response; which does not=20=
happen in practice.
This might be due to straight circuit capacitances.
A mini-whip with leaded parts has a PCB antenna measuring 30 x 40 mm.
Using SMD parts 22 x 26 mm of copper clad PCB is neccessary for the same sig=
nal levels.
This is approximately 50% less.

One solution could be to increase the capacitance of the probe and decrease=20=
the gate resistor of the FET.
Doing so the gate capacitance has less impact on the frequency response as i=
t is swamped by the gate resistor.

To be honest, I have not done much work in this area yet, as my main interes=
t is reception at LF.
I have tried some circuits with a very low input capacitance, which yielded=20=
an even smaller probe.
Which was not much use in practice.

A combination of a very low input capacitance and a low gate resistor could=20=
do the trick.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The pa0rdt-Mini-Whip was designed as a low=20=
noise=20
reception antenna at LF, because&nbsp;at my location a loop antenna appeared=
 to=20
pick up to much noise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This type of antenna does work very well at=
 low=20
frequencies, in fact it excels at VLF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the other end of the spectrum,&nbsp;rece=
ption=20
drops off above 20 MHz, though I have received signals up to 50=20
MHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The frequency response of the buffer amplif=
ier is=20
flat to at least 100 MHz, so this is not the cause of degraded performance=20
versus frequency.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hajo, DJ1ZB, has&nbsp;done some computer an=
alyses,=20
but his work does not confirm a decrease in performance up to 100=20
MHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The capacitance of the probe and the input=20
capacitance of the FET form a voltage devider for rf.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Theoretical this should also give a flat fr=
equency=20
response; which does not happen in practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be due to straight circuit=20
capacitances.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A mini-whip with leaded parts has a PCB ant=
enna=20
measuring 30 x 40 mm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using SMD parts&nbsp;22 x 26 mm of copper c=
lad PCB=20
is neccessary for the same signal levels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is approximately 50% less.</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One solution&nbsp;could be to increase the=20
capacitance of the probe and decrease the gate resistor of the FET.</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doing so the gate capacitance has less impa=
ct on=20
the frequency response as it is swamped by the gate resistor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To be honest, I have not done much work in=20=
this=20
area yet, as my main interest is reception at LF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have tried some circuits with a very low=20=
input=20
capacitance, which yielded&nbsp;an even smaller probe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which was not much&nbsp;use in=20
practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A combination of a very low input capacitan=
ce and a=20
low gate resistor could do the trick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Brian,

  Congratulations on your new station setup!
I hope you might consider re-establishing the CT1DRP grabber, it is very 
much missed!

73 Warren K2ORS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Rogerson" <brian@esoterica.pt>
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> Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Victor PA3FNY, and Henny PA3CPM
> for their capture.
> With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
> At 16:45 05/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
>>description will
>>appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
>>reports
>>and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next 
>>few days.  For anyone interested
>>the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps 
>>disciplined 5MHz frequency standard
>>(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.
>>
>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>>At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>>>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>>>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>>>
>>>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>>>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is 
>>>located
>>>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>>>
>>>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>>>be grateful to learn.
>>>
>>>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>>>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>>>
>>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>>
>>>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>>>
>>>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>>>
>>>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>>>
>>>>Reports welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Brian CT1DRP
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 



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Look my report on the web, pse.

I copy signal on 503.2 at 5.01 mks=3D3.01z!

May be it was you b4 off the TX?



01.12.07, 04:52, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> QRT FROM 0200  HRS

> TNX

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:09 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

> G ..

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:43 AM

> Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> 01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> > OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

> Nothing yet, Graham -(

> > 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

> > > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

> > > tnx

> > > Graham ..

> > > ----- Original Message -----=20

> > > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM

> > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ

> > > Hi Graham!

> > > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

> > > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

> > > >  HI All ,

> > > > If anyone's about ,,,

> > > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=
=20

> > > > if

> > > > you

> > > > can 'see' it

> > > > Reports welcome

> > > > Tnx

> > > > Graham

> > > > G0NBD / IO83LK

> > > --

> > > 73!

> > > Roman, RW3ADB

> > > "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=
=CE=CB=D5=D2=D3 =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8

> > > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12

> > --

> > 73!

> > Roman, RW3ADB

> > =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=EF=D4=CB=D2=D9=D4=CB=C9 - =E1=CE=CF=CE=D3=D9 =CE=CF=
=D7=D9=C8 =CF=D4=CB=D2=D9=D4=CF=CB:=20

> > http://cards.yandex.ru/subscribe.xml

> --

> 73!

> Roman, RW3ADB

> =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=
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 http://mail.ya.ru



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Hi John, LF,

Well, this is my first time to give it a try, I did already have the 
software because the JT6 mode is being used on the 4 metre band (one of my 
favourite bands). I will try again tonight, if the weather stays calm I may 
put the vertical up to 12 mtrs (9 at the moment).

I see that Hartmut decoded a few lines :-

Captures of WE2XGR/3 can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Cheers

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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> Gary,
>
> I'm still pretty green at this, but it looks like there just wasn't enough 
> signal. The "*" at the end of the line indicates a lock, but the message 
> decoding is an all or nothing process. If there is any error, then no 
> message will appear.
>
> I'm going to play locally with this some more today, and may be able to 
> offer better instructions for tonight. Thanks!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>
> 




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Hallo Gary and ALL!
Nice signal on 503.600 DFCW, just now.
 
GL !
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report!


WD2XGJ (The lighthouse of Wayland!)

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73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hello  all on LF ,
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> Last night i copy  :
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> DF6NM ( good ! my antenna in USA )
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> WD2XGJ ( the guard of the headlight of Europe ! )
> 
> The captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
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> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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GM all!
I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?
 
73 !
 
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Jean-Pierre, Henny,

Yes, that was WD2XES building pyramids last night. The signal also 
appeared on DF6NM's screen, but very faintly.

T/A LF conditions are very good -- the lack of deep fading on 
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Hallo Jos=E9 and all !
Thanks for information about your reception of beacon OK0EMW. That=B4s
fine, becouse the distance between ours QTH is 2028km! You are receiving
very well!
GL an 500kHz and have a nice day!
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Hello all,=20
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Good copy now of DI2AM, DI2AG and OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible
in the QSB maximum peaks.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for information=20=
about your
reception of beacon OK0EMW. That=B4s fine, becouse the distance between ours=
 QTH
is 2028km! You are receiving very well!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL an 500kHz and have a=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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*************************
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-</span></font><st=
1:PersonName><font   size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:Tahoma'>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</span></font></st1:PersonNa=
me><font  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
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[mailto:owner-</span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><sp=
an   style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</span></font></st1:PersonName><font  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bo=
ld'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jose Manuel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 13,=20=
2007
10:10 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><st1:Person=
Name><font   size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Tahoma'>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</span></font></st1:PersonName><font=
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><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500 evening</spa=
n></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Good copy now of DI2AM=
, DI2AG and
OK0EMW on QRSS3; all signals audible in the QSB maximum peaks.</span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria=
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Hello LF ,

Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong)

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
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Hartmut

Welcome back...your reports were missed!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: LF: WD2XGJ


> The signal from WD2XGJ was readable until 09:30 this morning.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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> 


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Hi Uwe ,
Ok , my antenna ( K9AY ) are not for you ,  good signal this morning  .
see on my grabber at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> Hi all,
> indeed, it is dj8wx. ID in QRSS3.
>
> thanks for the report, Jean-Pierre.
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
>
>
>
>
>
> Zitat von dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de>:
>
>> may be DJ8WX
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
>> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:44 AM
>> Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is " WX "
>>
>>
>>> Hello Hall ,
>>>
>>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
>>>
>>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>>
>>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Dave, all,

> That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...

Actually, when carried to the extreme, it's good news for city dwellers. 
Since the principal losses have to do with vegetation, and that may be 
either non-existent or many stories below, antennas stretching between 
city buildings can be quite efficient.

I've given the example before of a 350 foot single wire T on 580 kHz 
with a 30 foot downlead. It was supported on the ends by two 10-story 
buildings, and the feedpoint was on the roof of a 4-5 story building in 
the center. There was a LOT of copper cornice work in the area, and it 
had been carefully bonded together, and tied to some heavy copper cables 
which ran to the basement of the center building, thence to the water 
mains. The feedpoint resistance actually dropped over the years as 
air-conditioning equipment and piping was added on the roof. The last 
measurement of impedance was 2.3 - j240 ohms, as I recall. The antenna 
was taken down about 20 years ago.

As Jim points out, the loading coil controls the efficiency in such 
cases. If memory serves the tuning setup was about 50% efficient in the 
above example. The simplest coupling arrangement is a single coil, 
grounded at the bottom, with a coupling tap. It can be analyzed as a 
high-pass L network.

Anyway, excellent work, Jim. I hope your results will be recorded on a 
web site somewhere.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Zitat von Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:

>
> Hello Uwe and LF ,
>
> I copy your beacon now ! what your conditions please ?
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
Hi Jean-Pierre,
conc my equipment pse see

http://home.versanet.de/~uwe-jannsen/

G3AQC is agn on the QRG.
I changed the QRG to 136,319kHz

regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Hi Mal, LF,

FB your comments regarding the FT-847 etc, I noticed from previous mails 
that you use a UC/1, I hear they are very good.

Regarding aerials, I understand that there is no substitute for full size 
resonant hardware but due to my small garden I have to make the best of the 
space & keep on the right side of XYL & neighbours. So the vertical for 
Tx/Rx on 136 & 500 KHz tuned at the base & the mini-whip for all other VLF 
to MF Rx options.

Also being in the middle of a dense housing estate the noise level does rise 
& fall sometimes to dramatically high levels & then to dramatically quiet 
levels but generally mid-way. Of course at the moment there is lots of noise 
generation with the large amount of Xmas lighting displays including my own 
!!

May I take this opportunity to wish you & all who contribute & read the LF 
mail

A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS

All My Best Wishes

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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> Gary.
> The FT 847 is good on 500 khz with a good antenna. I have one here but the
> Datong UC/1 upconverter IF 144 and 28 mhz fed into the ICOM 746 is better.
> Those using the mini whip are doing well but it is no substitute for a 
> real
> antenna like a 1/4 wave or large loop if you have the space and a quiet
> environment.
> 73 Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight
>
>
>> Hi John, Jay, LF,
>>
>> Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only
> for
>> John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.
>>
>> I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following,
>> quite surprised at the results :-
>>
>> 1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
>> 2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.
>>
>> Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with
>> number 2 setup.
>>
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Hey Dmitry, LF.

nice signal of UA4WPF, may be also traces of RA9CUA??? pse cfm.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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> Hi all
> 
> UA4WPF start now 137777.2  qrss60
> 
> Dmitry
> 
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Henny,

    Thank you for the nice capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  nice capture wd2xgj
  time:04:30z
  henny pa3cpm
  merry xmas
  73s

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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XGR/2 on as of 0030. Currently at 100 watts but will step the power up over the evening.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> Hartmut,
> 
> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another 
> schedule on CW.
> 
> John A.
> 
> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> >> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> >> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> >> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> >> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
> >> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
> > 
> > first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
> > waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
> > 
> > 
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Hallo Geri and all!
I just captured signal from DI2BO - see on the snapshot. 
 
Have a nice weekend!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello LF ,

Last night good conditions , i copy :

UA4WPF   137.777   LO66PU (3682km) DFCW
CT1DRP     136.319    IN51NS (942km)   DFCW
WD2XGJ   137.7798 FN42HI (5536km) QRSS
WD2XES    137.577  FN42CH (5565km) WOLF

The files and captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Hi Warren
Tnx for the info. He was audible but severe rapid qsb, vy difficult to read
but got the W and a G and the /6 ok. I dont like guesswork and try to report
exactly what I hear or see.
Condx might be good at present if there was enough acty to ck it out. Did
not hear VE1ZZ on 3533 khz to ck a xband qso last nite.
Gi4dpe is going strong on beacon mode at presernt daytime.
73 de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
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> Mal,
>
>   That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (also known as W2ZM) in Penn Yan, New York that you
are hearing.
> I am forwarding this to Bob, hopefully you can QSO.
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> > Hi all
> > Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
> > qsb. Rx not calibrated.
> > Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007
> >
> > Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
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>


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jay
just audible at 0054 /55 the odd letter so far then gone !!

----- Original Message -----
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> Just fired up XGR/2 on 506.5
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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>
> Jose
> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jose Manuel
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>
>   OK Mal,
>
>   Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal
measured here was 10 dB(uV/m),
> the strongest signal from USA I´ve ever copied on the band.
>
>   73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>     Jose
>     Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while
for an improvement.
>     73 de Mal/g3kev
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Jose Manuel
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>
>       Hi all,
>
>       Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.
>
>
>       73 de José, EA1PX, IN53ti
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> --
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>


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Good morning Geri,
copied traces of your signal many times over last night, but
unfortunately to weak for a full copy of your call sign. I try again
tonight.
=20
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_01
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03
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Receiver: Yaesu FT-857D & PA0RDT MiniWhip
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Holger 'Geri',
DK8KW
Sent: 01 January 2002 03:14
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Subject: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


Hello YLs and OMs,,
=20
DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day,
later this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it
can be switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.=20
=20
Looking forward to your reception report.=20
=20
Best 73
=20
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
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1207_01</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007><A  href=3D"htt=
p://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_161207_03">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2bo_16=
1207_03</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Receiver: Yaesu=
 FT-857D=20
&amp; PA0RDT MiniWhip</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>vy73</SPAN></DI=
V>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>Marco</SPAN></D=
IV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007>DD7PC</SPAN></D=
IV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D251191110-16122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN  class=3D251191110-16122007>JN49ax</SPAN><=
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holger 'Geri=
',=20
DK8KW<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 January 2002 03:14<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back=20=
on=20
the air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.=
 For=20
the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later thi=
s=20
year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be switched=20=
on=20
automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Paul-Henrik & all!

Tell me pse, what condition are you use for 503 kHz RX?



Roman

RW3ADB/KO85ro



01.12.07, 13:29, Paul-Henrik (phl@netikka.fi):



> >  HI All ,

> > If anyone's about ,,,

> > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if

> > you

> > can 'see' it

> > Reports welcome

> > Tnx

> > Graham

> > G0NBD / IO83LK

> Very faint signals received by ear around 22.30z, without knowing your QRG=
 and

> call it would have been impossible. I'm quite sure on the suffix "NBD" aft=
er

> some "interpolation" of many rounds of the callsign.

> Would be good to hear if you were using normal-speed CW at that time.

> Conditions appeared extremely bad yesterday night, please let us know if y=
ou

> will have another go tonight. With some improvement in condx a full aural=20=
copy

> should be possible.

> 73's

> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

> Vaasa / KP03SD



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73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Brian

Signals not as consistent as the night before with significantly more fading. Best capture of the
night below.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

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Jim,

  Excellent work as always!
Just a note, I did the ERP calculations for WE2XGR/6 Bob for 500kHz (also 
for 137 and 185kHz).
Bob has an open field with no vegatation. Recently Bob has made field 
strength measurements at 500 and confirmed that the calculations are indeed 
very close. Perhaps we can get some field strength measurements on 137 and 
185kHz to see the effect there, but right now Bob is having too much fun 
working the world on 500kHz!

73 Warren K2ORS


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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally 
> expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are 
> in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences 
> within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. 
> Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, 
> which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using 
> a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 
> 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 
> ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The 
> average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The 
> calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 
> 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to 
> the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For 
> the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively 
> high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a 
> coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much 
> better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna 
> in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss 
> resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, 
> the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to 
> the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence 
> in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the 
> resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck 
> with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths 
> of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
> 



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Mal

Neither the XSH or XGR 500 kHz stations are licensed to work amateur radio o=
perators crossband at present. Perhaps you could pass this along to Jack and=
 other interested parties. Tnx.

Jay =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:24 PM
  Subject: LF: VE3ZZ XBAND


  Jack/ve3zz informed me last nite on 160m cw that he was hearing lots of US=
A stns on 500 khz as far away as MS and would like to work them xband on 353=
3 khz if they would listen for him. He was also hearing EU stns like SM6 and=
 DI2 stns at good strength and would like to work them also xband if possibl=
e.=20
  He did not hear any UK stns on 500. I expect this is because of the qrp si=
tuation, Condx have to be exceptional for UK stns to be heard in VE or W.
  For those stns not yet permitted on 500 xband is the only oppertunity for=20=
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  73 de Mal/G3KEV


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Thank you Hartmut, Henny, Willem and Jean-Pierre for the reports and 
captures!
Very FB longwave conditions!

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> 137kHz: Captured the T/A signal from WD2XES and WD2XGJ. From EU on
> 137.7 in QRSS3 F6BWO and DN1VLF.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Poor copy of the CW-signal from WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz.
> Readable for a few minutes around 01:40. Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on
> 505.259 kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF and G4WGT.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
> 



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Dear Lubos, LF Group,

Thanks for the screen shot - yes, that is me doing some more antenna experim=
ents...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:22 AM
  Subject: LF: [500] Signal on 503810


  GM all!

  I captured some DFCW signal on 503810 yet. Does anybody know, who is it?

  =20

  73 !

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Lubos, LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the screen shot - yes, that is m=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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Henny,
   Thank you for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:03 PM
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  capture ct1drp  19:00z
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Hello Nicolas ,
Ton signal est rest=E9 visible toute la soir=E9e ! j'ai d=E9cod=E9 qq lettre=
s=20
par moment ! je savais que c'=E9tait toi .
73 @+ J-P afj


F4DTL@aol.com a =E9crit :
> Im beaconing very low power "DTL" on 137.776.3 QRSS60
> =20
> *Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> *

--=20
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Hi Jim, I wondered whether that was your objective with the "portable site".
That is a very interesting confirmation of some of the "thinks" a lot of us
have had about ERP calculation and the environmental effects. Well done,
nice project.

One small comment on the open field aerial, your loss figures confirm the
advisability of having extensive top-wires to increase the aerial capacity
and so enable a higher Q coil to be more easily achieved. In this situation
the top-wires may not add much in terms of ground loss reduction. It is also
possible that in this situation an advantage would be seen in helically
winding the vertical section too. In most cases the Rrad advantage of
helical winding (only about 15-20% I think)  is probably negated by the
increased capacity to the lossy surroundings.

I suppose you could see the Rrad reduction due to nearby structures and the
environment as being due to some of the feed current being diverted by
capacitive coupling into the lossy surroundings and so not traversing all of
the distributed Rrad.

I am pleased you managed to finish that work before the wind and weather
made it too uncomfortable being out in the middle of a field !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
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T/A enthusiasts

GI4DPE / WE2XGR/2 completed QSO #3 earlier this evening. Finbar had excellent copy throughout
although reported rapid and very deep QSB. Copy at XGR/2 was somewhat more difficult with moderate
QSB and QRN from storms over the Gulf of Mexico.

G3KEV, GI4DPE and EA1PX reported very good copy of WE2XGR/6.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Jim,

That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...we'll
all have to move to the country. Are you thinking of writing it up for, say,
RadCom?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Dear LF Group,

I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
week - this is a summary of the results.

The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
should have quite high conductivity.

I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
600k.

Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.

Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%

Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
82mW,
difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%

Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%

Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%

So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
surrounding trees and buildings.

The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!

The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
reasonably high conductivity.

So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
considered too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU









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18metermast,kijk op google bij spiderbeam frank,is wel vrij duur,219euro....=
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gr  henny pa3cpm
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  Subject: LF: 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast,=20


  Hi all,

  I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.
  The mast I used nouw is a 12.5 Meter from zk-antennen.de=20

  I remember that there was some discussion about this new mast on the refec=
tor.
  At that time I looked, only it was verry expensif.

  Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in Japan.

  Regards Frank PE1RRF

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic=20
  Fibreglass mast.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The mast I used nouw is&nbsp;a 12.5 Meter=
 from=20
  zk-antennen.de </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I remember that there was some discussion=
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  this new mast on the refector.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At that time I looked, only it was verry=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nouw I found only the W-GR-1800H in=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards Frank PE1RRF</FONT></DIV>
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Henny,

   Thank you very much for the capture!
73 Warren K2ORS

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:32 AM
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  capture xgj  015:00z
  henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Perhaps is this VO1NA ( see picture )

The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj
















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Warren,

> What time is your sunrise?
> 73 Warren K2oRS/WD2XGJ

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Hello Joe ,
Happy new year to you and your family .

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

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Hello LF!

Positive input:

As I'm writing this SM6BHZ is 7 S-units over noise here on 505.1kHz, stronge=
r
than ever received at this QTH before. He is located 807km from me.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting K2ORS <k2ors@comcast.net>:

> Tnx Mal, maybe Gus could not get his temporary permit renewed.
>
> Vy 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:11 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ
>
>
> > Warren
> > Not hrd/seen  for a while on 505 khz.
> > Just checked and nil hrd/seen
> > Mal/G3KEV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "K2ORS" <k2ors@comcast.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:57 PM
> > Subject: LF: SM6BHZ
> >
> >
> >> Hello the list,
> >>
> >>   Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was
> > supposed
> >> to expire on November 30.
> >>
> >> 73 Warren K2ORS
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>




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May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ




01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 ,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
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> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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Hallo Alberto and LF!
SAQ signal was really very good - see on the picture.
It was used RX RFspace SDR-IQ + notebook HP Pentium4 (program SpecLab). 

I am looking forward to your new program version 1.30!

73 and have a nice day!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene
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Subject: LF: SAQ this morning

Good copy of SAQ this morning. Screen capture and audio excerpt here :
http://sundry.i2phd.com/saq_2007_12_24.html

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...
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What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...<BR>
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Hi Gary, LF,

according to my 100 kHz monitor, Anthorn Loran came on the Lessay chain rate=
 (GRI 6731) yesterday 10:25 UT. After some adjustments of the transmission d=
elay, they reached their "final parking position" in the old Rugby slot (27.=
3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. The sideband lines should now be on the u=
sual frequencies, i.e. exact multiples of 100 kHz / 6731 / 2.=20

The time-domain graph was recorded 2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 (top)=
, using 22050 samples/s (left to right) and phase encoded as colour.=20

Best wishes to all

Markus, DF6NM


=20


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn


> Hi All,
>=20
> Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran=20
> Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not=
=20
> shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen.
>=20
> My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would=20
> have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the=
=20
> same lines but stronger.
>=20
> Any comments please.
>=20
> 73
>=20
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Gary,=
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LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>according to my 100 kHz monitor,&nbsp;Antho=
rn=20
Loran&nbsp;came on&nbsp;the Lessay&nbsp;chain rate (GRI 6731)=20
yesterday&nbsp;10:25 UT. After some&nbsp;adjustments of the transmission del=
ay,=20
they&nbsp;reached their "final parking position"&nbsp;in the old Rugby slot=20
(27.3 ms after Lessay) at about 11:40. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Th=
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sideband lines should now be on the&nbsp;usual frequencies, i.e. exact multi=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The time-domain&nbsp;graph was=20
recorded&nbsp;2007-11-30, 10:00 (bottom) to 13:00 (top), using 22050 samples=
/s=20
(left to right) and phase encoded as colour.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Gary - G4WGT" &lt;</FONT><A   href=
=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" &lt;</FONT><A   hr=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:09=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn</FONT></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt; Hi All,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Can anyone tell me how to=20=
calculate the=20
extra lines produced by Loran <BR>&gt; Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice=20=
as=20
many lines as before which are not <BR>&gt; shown on my spreadsheet list of=20=
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frequencies previously seen.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My location is considerably cl=
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se=20
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stronger.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Any comments please.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;</FONT></BODY></HTM=
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Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones
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Seasons greetings all - Merry Jingly Coherent Tones<BR>
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The Singapore grabber is still operational on "auto" until our return from h=
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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,
I also saw the very clear "O"  on Lawrence's grabber, but did you notice
traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about
21:00
could this have been PE1RRF ?
Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are getting
to be
good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now
several days
since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore
pre-dawn.
May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.
Merry Christmas to all.
Laurie.G3AQC.

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Hi Laurence and Dmitry,<br>I also saw the very clear &quot;O&quot;&nbsp; on Lawrence&#39;s grabber, but did you notice <br>traces lower on 318/318.5 of a signal drifting up in frequency at about 21:00<br>could this have been PE1RRF ?
<br>Sadly no trace of my transmission, although I belive conditions are getting to be <br>good, The Kp index is very low, Dst rising towards zero and it is now several days<br>since the last disturbance. So I will continue to transmit towards Singapore pre-dawn.
<br>May have to shift freq to avoid congestion on 318 hi.<br>Merry Christmas to all.<br>Laurie.G3AQC. <br> 

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Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Victor PA3FNY, and Henny PA3CPM
for their capture.
With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP


At 16:45 05/12/2007, you wrote:
>Many thanks to: Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL (I hope station 
>description will
>appear on web site soon), Steve W3EEE, Jay W1VD and John W1TAG for their 
>reports
>and captures.  I hope to run the transmitter early evening for the next 
>few days.  For anyone interested
>the frequency is dds generated (one of Andy's units) from a gps 
>disciplined 5MHz frequency standard
>(Z3801A) and the dfcw elements locked to the gps 1pps.
>
>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>
>At 08:58 04/12/2007, you wrote:
>>Many thanks to: Dave G3WCB, Gary G4WGT, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ,
>>Markus DF6NM, Laurence KL1X, F4DTL, W1VD and Roman RW3ADB
>>who sent reports, grabs or who provided grabbers.
>>
>>My first reaction is that my signal is propagating far better to the West
>>than to the East though this is no real surprise as the station is located
>>on the coast with a horseshoe of hills and the rest of Spain to the East.
>>
>>If anyone other than Jean-Pierre was receiving my signal audibly I should
>>be grateful to learn.
>>
>>For the 500KHz group there is a grabber on my web site 
>>http://ew9gtj.claranet.pt/
>>
>>With best wishes, Brian CT1DRP
>>
>>At 18:26 03/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>Good evening LF enthusiasts,
>>>
>>>CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
>>>after rebuilding system at new location.
>>>
>>>Happy to change frequency to accomodate.
>>>
>>>Reports welcome.
>>>
>>>Brian CT1DRP
>>
>
>




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Hi all
Obs last nite around 2230/2300 utc
Nil dx hrd on 600 m fm the USA
160 m in good shape, worked W1MK,W1LEH,K2UU,KJ2S,W3GH,N4ZV,W8JI and 
VE1ZZ,VE3EJ.
I went qrt at 2320 utc
73 mal/g3kev

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W1MK,W1LEH,K2UU,KJ2S,W3GH,N4ZV,W8JI and VE1ZZ,VE3EJ.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I went qrt at 2320 utc</FONT></DIV>
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capture xgj  03:00z
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden=
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Info on power/antennas used

Bob K3DJC

 
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02:24:04 -0500 "K2ORS" <k2ors@comcast.net> writes:
> Hello the list,
> 
>  Well the celebration may  be a bit premature.  Bob and Rudy had 
> several 
> 'partial' QSOs but were not able to complete the exchange due to 
> QSB. Maybe 
> tomorrow night.
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS


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Thanks, Ed.

Your signal was good today. It was just about audible in a 24 Hz bandwidth
(SPM-30)

73 and have a good Christmas!

Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
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  Ga Dave, LF.

  i say our best QSO, tu have a nice X-MAS.

  73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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signal was good today. It was just about audible in a 24 Hz bandwidth=20
(SPM-30)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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have a good Christmas!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D557095415-221=
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G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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ma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>dl2hre<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 December 2007 15:43<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: 137.7 QSO=20
  G3WCB<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ga Dave, LF.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i say our best QSO, tu have a nice=20
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Hi Warren ,

K2ORS a =E9crit :
> WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05=20
> UTC!
> Sunset here 21:12 UTC.
Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset
(in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test
for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it  ;-) =20

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi Warren ,<br>
<br>
K2ORS a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">WD2XGJ seems to be coming through to
Jean-Pierre's grabber since 20:05 UTC!</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Sunset here 21:12 UTC.</font></div>
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Superb signal of your beacon ! more than one hour before the sunset<br>
(in the future I will start the grabber earlier !) that was a good test<br>
for my new grabber ! I hope that you will like it&nbsp; <span   class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-)&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><br>
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Hi Gary - 
   
  Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?
   
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<div>Hi Gary - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable on QSB peaks. Did you see anything of my replies?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian (G3YKB)</div><p>&#32;
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nice capture wd2xgj
23:15z
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Hallo Mike and All!
I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The
signal is growing stronger. 

73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thayne
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Subject: LF: LF 500: M0BMU/P on 503.8

Been receiving M0BMU/P for past 30 mins at 559 sending series dashes
and callsign. 

Mike G3GMS
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Hallo David and LFers!
I have seen very poor signal on 503.700kHz and I identificete letters
"MRF" . But it is not good time for reception signals from UK now. I am
going to try this evening from 21:00UT, it will be more better time for
receiving. I hope, beacon will be in operation with 50mW.
 
GL !
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 
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Subject: LF: G0MRF Beacon
 
Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.
 
Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from
garage will be back on.
 
ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.
 
Merry Christmas
 
David

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=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
*****************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bo=
ld'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>G0MRF@aol.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 25, 2=
007
11:21 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: G0MRF Beacon</sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3  face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Currently
have the beacon running overnight with higer power.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Have
just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage will be
back on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>ERP apx
50mW so up 10dB from normal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>Merry
Christmas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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ck  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:bla=
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Hi all,

Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


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Correction  - should be VE1ZZ



----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 5 Dec 2007 at 17:24, g3kev wrote:
> 
> > Jack/ve3zz
> 
> Jack's callsign is VE1ZZ.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
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Thanx to Hartmut and F1AFJ Jean Pierre for your reports yesterday.
 
Happy  Christmas.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP





   

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Ok John , i listening the next night .

73 J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will run WOLF(10) on 137.577 kHz tonight from about 0000Z to=20
> 0300Z. Note that this is the standard 10 bit/sec data rate for WOLF.=20
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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Hello Geri,

just captured part of your callsign at 505,014 KHz, 15:20z

73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Holger 'Geri', DK8KW
  Verzonden: dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14
  Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Onderwerp: LF: (500 kHz) DI2BO is back on the air


  Hello YLs and OMs,,

  DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kHz.
For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, later
this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be
switched on automatically by calling a telephone number.

  Looking forward to your reception report.

  Best 73

  Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Hello Geri,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>just captured part of your callsign at=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>73</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>Victor</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>PA3FNY</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D953022015-15122007>JO22NC</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT     face=
=3DTahoma>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B>=20
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>Namens </B>Holger 'Geri',=20
  DK8KW<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> dinsdag 1 januari 2002 2:14<BR><B>Aan:</B>=20
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  <DIV>Hello YLs and OMs,,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>DI2BO is back on the air in QRSS10 and 6 wmp CW ID. QRG is 505.015 kH=
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  For the time being the beacon will remain transmitting 24 hours a day, lat=
er=20
  this year I will swith to the "beacon on demand"-mode so that it can be=20
  switched on automatically by calling a telephone number. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking forward to your reception report. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best 73</DIV>
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
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Hi Warren,
Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
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Hello!

 

SAQ signal was very good in JO70HF - see my page, please:

 

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Good copy all the time.

 

ANT - Mini Whip

 

RX - Only PC with Sound Card, SW Rocky and Argo.

 

 

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Hi all,
indeed, it is dj8wx. ID in QRSS3.

thanks for the report, Jean-Pierre.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





Zitat von dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de>:

> may be DJ8WX
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" <jpm.f1afj@onlin=
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> Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is " WX "
>
>
>> Hello Hall ,
>>
>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
>>
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>>
>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi J-P,

Thank-you for monitoring the signals and posting the spectra on
your web site.

There appear to be weak fragments of elements between 0030 and 0100 at=20
times when the transmitter was active.  Let's keep trying!

73
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
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> On 189,9498 kHz :
> traces ?  + spurious
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> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/
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Hi Gary - 
   
  Thanks for the report - glad to see that I am "visible" if not readable in Chorley.
   
  I usually use MixW2 software. I've no idea how it compares to other software but I can dial in 23 Hz / 22 baud and it seems to behave.
   
  73 Brian (G3YKB IO91TP Watford)

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Thanks for the try, I thought it was Chris !! I did see a weak RTTY trace on 
SpecLab.

Your signal was way down in noise & no chance of any copy.

What software do you use ?? I am trying to see if RTTY 23 Hz shift at 22 bd 
speed will do any better on this band, MMTTY will do that mode.

I mailed Sergei (UA9OV) who wrote the TrueTTY I use to impliment 22 bd on 
next upgrade & he as much as said yes !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Copied part of your RTTY CQ on 502 kHz (1855 ish) - about 50% copy. I 
> could see your signals in the noise on the waterfall but only decodeable 
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Your signal is vy strong but too slow for me to wait for ID pse QRQ no point
going at this speed. Try cw
g3kev

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tu Jean-Pierre.

I go 0.2Hz dwn and start cq dfcw60, i hope that works.
start now.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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Dear Dmitry,
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hello LF.

yesterday evening cpy RA3YO and UA4WPF=20

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Audible copy of WE2XGR/6 again around 00 UTC, but weaker than previous night=
.

Some seconds of weak audible copy of WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz, some minutes bef=
ore 00:30 UTC.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audible copy of WE2XGR/6 again around 00 UT=
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( just a few tests )
137776.4 : F4DTL     ( beacon QRP )
136318.0 : "P"  ???    ( not identified ! )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( vy good signal )

The files of captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu





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Mal,

  That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (also known as W2ZM) in Penn Yan, New York that you are hearing.
I am forwarding this to Bob, hopefully you can QSO.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Hi all
> Now hearing partial call of W******/6 beacon mode on 507.217 khz but bad
> qsb. Rx not calibrated.
> Time 0116/0129 utc 20/12/2007
> 
> Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
> 



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strong signal,gary and audible
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henny pa3cpm
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Gm Dave, LF.

Tu for the rprt, best 73 good DX, nice sunday.

Ed DL2HRE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:49 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: activity 137.7


  Ed, LF,

  Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO with F5WK. Yo=
ur signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.=20

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.
    -----Original Message-----
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    any activity on 137KHz.
    the picture shows top Michel s signal, than Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WC=
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    73 Ed DL2HRE

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enworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
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V>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff s=
ize=3D2>Ed,=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =20=
   size=3D2>Thanks for your report and screenshot. This was my first QSO wit=
h F5WK.=20
  Your signal was "M" with QSB while you were in QSO with F5WK.=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D787014619-15122007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =20=
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  Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    LF: activity 137.7<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any activity on 137KHz.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the picture shows top Michel s signal,=20=
than=20
    Boris S57A(CQ) and Dave G3WCB.</FONT></DIV>
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Tech info G3KEV/IO94SH
Antennas

RX setup.
Vertical  rectangular  loop 600 feet perimiter abt 80 ft high at top and 7
feet at bottom above ground resonated on 500 khz band, EAST/WEST.
or alternative
1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz, 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal also used
for Transmitting, 50 ohm matching unit at base of vertical.
 Each antenna selectable and fed via 50ohm coax to a Datong UC/1 upconverter
(has preselector)and two IF outputs 144 or 28 mhz. I use the 144 mhz output
to a Icom 746 transceiver. The two outputs can be used at the same time if
required to separate receivers.

I have a small Wellbrook 1m diameter circular loop, which has a preamp and
that works well but well down on the big antennas, sig/noise is good
I have other receivers also suitable for LF/MF if required.

The 136 khz antenna consists of 3 x inv L spaced around a tower at 100 ft
high, all vertical leads joined at the bottom to a matching atu for 50 ohms

For 160m the antenna at present is a one wave inv L up at 100ft

Total of 3 masts in use at this qth, plus high trees around the perimiter of
the field.

de G3KEV/IO94SH




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GE LF!
Just captured nice signal from G3XIZ.
 
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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>GE LF!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Just captured nice signal from G3XIZ.<o:p></o:p></=
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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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> At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
> Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
> mal/g3kev

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Hello Hartmut ,
Nicolas (F4DTL) running 12V 0.5A input in a vertical antenna
of 10 m without top load, not regulated very well .
73 qro J-P f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> 137kHz: Copied on 137.7764 "DTL" around 02:00.=20


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Hello all on LF ,

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Dear Rik, LF Group,

I think the main effect of having  the elevated loading coil is too reduce
the voltage on the downlead of the antenna - this would have two advantages:

-Reduced voltage on the downlead, resulting in lower dielectric losses due
to objects in the field near the downlead.

-Reduced displacement current from downlead to ground, resulting in higher
current at the top of the vertical section of the antenna. This would
increase the effective height of the antenna somewhat, especially if the top
loading part of the antenna is quite small compared to the vertical section.

On the antennas that I tested, the tops of the loading coils were raised
about 2.5m above ground. The reasons for this were mainly to reduce losses
in the loading coils, and to keep the high voltage parts of the antenna a
safer distance away from accidental contact with people. The problem in
trying a fully-elevated loading coil, especially at my home QTH, is finding
somewhere to mount the coil. Due to my flimsy antenna supports this would
require an extra mast to support a loading coil that had low enough loss. I
am not sure the effort would be worth it, as the horizontal part of the
antenna passes closer to the trees than the downlead does, so I think most
of the losses would be in the horizontal section. There is also the problem
of how to change bands between 136k and 500k - at the moment, I have
separate tuners for each band, and swap the antenna wire between them. This
would be a lot harder if the coil was at the top of the mast!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Subject: Re: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results


> Dear Jim,
>
> thanks for sharing your experimental result with us, most interesting.
>
> Did you ever try to put (a part of) the loading coil up in the air ?
> What I experienced with my 136kHz antenna was that putting a part of
> the loading inductance at the top of the vertical section worked miracles.
> In 1999 I placed a +/- 1.5mH coil at the top of the vertical section
> of my inverted-L antenna. This represented about 50% of the required
> loading inductance, so another 1.5mH remained at the bottom (1m above
> ground). It resulted in a +/- 5 dB signal increase (measured by PA0SE).
> The "upper" coil was rather low Q (to reduce weight): I used a 5
> liter container (the ones filled with purified water for ironing) and
> 1mm isolated wire.
> After mentioning this on the reflector I received a number of
> responses from others who also tried it and it seemed that it gave
> only a significant benefit when the antenna was surrounded by lossy
> objects. In some way the elevated loading coil seemed to "decouple"
> the antenna from the lossy surrounding.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>



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Good evening LF enthusiasts,

CT1DRP is testing on 136319Hz DFCW30
after rebuilding system at new location.

Happy to change frequency to accomodate.

Reports welcome.

Brian CT1DRP



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Captured CT1DRP at 136119 Hz  16:09z
73
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Hi Nicolas
F5WK nice signal here IO94SH at 1857z on 15/12/07 now on 137.7 qrs3
He is calling S57A
de Mal/G3KEV/SCARBOROUGH/IO94SH

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  Thanx dear F5WK Michel for my first contact on LF band.

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Dear Jim,

thanks for sharing your experimental result with us, most interesting.

Did you ever try to put (a part of) the loading coil up in the air ?
What I experienced with my 136kHz antenna was that putting a part of 
the loading inductance at the top of the vertical section worked miracles.
In 1999 I placed a +/- 1.5mH coil at the top of the vertical section 
of my inverted-L antenna. This represented about 50% of the required 
loading inductance, so another 1.5mH remained at the bottom (1m above 
ground). It resulted in a +/- 5 dB signal increase (measured by PA0SE).
The "upper" coil was rather low Q (to reduce weight): I used a 5 
liter container (the ones filled with purified water for ironing) and 
1mm isolated wire.
After mentioning this on the reflector I received a number of 
responses from others who also tried it and it seemed that it gave 
only a significant benefit when the antenna was surrounded by lossy 
objects. In some way the elevated loading coil seemed to "decouple" 
the antenna from the lossy surrounding.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 14:14 9/12/2007, you wrote:
>Dear LF Group,
>
>I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
>week - this is a summary of the results.
>
>The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
>performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally expected
>that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
>etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
>such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
>antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
>antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
>these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
>and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
>antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
>located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are in
>some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
>relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences within
>a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
>with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. Actual
>measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
>effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
>field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
>systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
>point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, which
>should have quite high conductivity.
>
>I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using a
>RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
>frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 503kHz.
>The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
>10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 ohms
>at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
>600k.
>
>Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The average
>measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
>efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The calculated
>ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
>Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 43mW,
>difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
>Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
>82mW,
>difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
>Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 0.18W,
>difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
>Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 0.40W,
>difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
>So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
>simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
>lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
>resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
>surrounding trees and buildings.
>
>The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
>antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to the
>open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
>efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
>The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
>For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For the
>home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
>cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively high
>loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a coil
>with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much better
>loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
>efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
>inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna in,
>a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
>would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss resistance
>too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
>rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, the
>ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
>reasonably high conductivity.
>
>So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to the
>text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence in
>the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
>characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the resistance
>is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
>increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
>dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
>resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck with
>this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
>not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths of
>wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
>considered too.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU


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Sry picture !

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello LF ,
>
> Good copy of :
> WD2XGJ (short try in QRSS60)
> WD2XES (short test in graphical mode)
>
> see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>
> The files of captures of night are with this URL :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>

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Hi Laurence,
frequ was 137,777kHz on my scale
regards
Uwe



Zitat von Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>:

>
> What was his freq Uwe ?- I saw the scale but couldnt read it off...
>
> Cheers
>
> Laurence 9v1 lf
>> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:38:28 +0100> From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de> 
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: WPF audible> > 
>> (UA4)WPF was audible last night here in jo43sv. aerial: K9AY loop.> 
>> in addition pse see attachment.> has the station been switched off 
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Mike,

Not sure if this is you on 136.319 KHz, if it is what are the funnies on the 
sidebands ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:58 PM
Subject: LF: XDV beacon again


> Yet again, I am testing my station in beacon mode. The last few times
> I have tried this, I have had spaks and have had to rebuild parts of
> the station. The latest rebuild is the mast-top inductor (4mH).
>
> This evening from now (1900) to about 2230, I will transmit QRSS60 on
> 136.31875kHz.
>
> This is just a test of the new coil. If all is well, I will make
> longer transmissions and aim to transmit overnight at the weekend.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
>
>
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Hello all, nice copy from VLF station SAQ this morning with a confortable  25 
dB SNR.
 
Thanx to all Grimeton's team specially to Lars.
 

Ant:  mini whip directly on PC. 
Sound card: EMU 202 with SAQ rx config for Spectrum  Lab
 
Happy Christmas F4DTL in  JN18FP



   

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<DIV>Hello all, nice copy from VLF station SAQ this morning with a confortab=
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<DIV>Thanx to all Grimeton's team specially&nbsp;to Lars.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Sound card: EMU 202 with SAQ rx config for Spectrum=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the best Ken and wishing you a very lin=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm

ill leave it running for a hour or so ,

tnx

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


Hi Graham!
Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?

01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):

>  HI All ,
> If anyone's about ,,,
> Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2 , if=20
> you
> can 'see' it
> Reports welcome
> Tnx
> Graham
> G0NBD / IO83LK

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73!
Roman, RW3ADB

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Hi Marcus,
Many thanks for the identification. Very encouraging !
Normally my sig. does not drift but since I had only just
switched on having been out all day and the shack was cold
to start, I guess it is possible.
I have shifted frequency to 136,320.5kHz so as to leave 318 clear.
All being well I will try again tonight and will start earlier.
Best wishes for the Christmas season.
Laurie G3AQC

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Hi Marcus,<br>Many thanks for the identification. Very encouraging !<br>Normally my sig. does not drift but since I had only just<br>switched on having been out all day and the shack was cold<br>to start, I guess it is possible.
<br>I have shifted frequency to 136,320.5kHz so as to leave 318 clear.<br>All being well I will try again tonight and will start earlier.<br>Best wishes for the Christmas season.<br>Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Dear LF Group,

Didn't work first time, so try again...

----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Moritz=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:13 PM
Subject: LF Antenna Effective height comparison


Dear LF Group,

After doing the "open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have bee=
n repeating field strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for compariso=
n. The field strength measurements generally give lower values for ERP than=20=
those calculated from the dimensions of the antenna and the antenna current,=
 which could be interpreted as reduced effective height of the antenna due =20=
to the screening effect of the environment around the antenna. I did several=
 sets of measurements at 136kHz and 503.8kHz with the antenna in 4 different=
 configurations - inverted L about 40m long at nominally 8m and 10m high, an=
d the same wire supported in the middle with a telescopic fibreglass mast to=
 make an inverted V with the apex at about 13m and 15m high. The radiation r=
esistance of each configuration was calculated using NEC-based antenna simul=
ator software, and from this the effective height was calculated. This was c=
ompared with a "measured" Heff  determined by working backwards from the ERP=
 values and the antenna current measurement

The graph in the attachment compares the calculated and measured Heff for th=
e four different antennas ("Winter 2007"). For comparison, the graph also in=
cludes results of similar measurements on the 10m inv L and 15m inv V made e=
arlier this year ("Summer 2007"), and the 10m inv L "Open field site" measur=
ements done recently. In the current measurements, the measured Heff for the=
 home QTH antenna is roughly 2m less than the calculated value, with Heff be=
ing slightly lower for 136kHz than 503kHz. The summertime measurements show=20=
a somewhat larger reduction in Heff, and a greater difference between 136k (=
about 4m reduction in Heff) and 500k (about 3m reduction). As mentioned befo=
re, the measured and calculated open-field site antenna results match quite=20=
closely. For the 10m inv L, for which all 3 sets of measurements were availa=
ble, the apparent effective height for essentially the same antenna varies o=
ver a range of about 2:1.

So it looks like a simple approximate way to model the effects of the enviro=
nment on the radiated signal from the antenna is to subtract a fixed amount=20=
from the effective height of the antenna. The amount to be subtracted appear=
s to depend on the time of year. Perhaps this is due  to the trees shedding=20=
their leaves. The cold weather last week when the  measurements were made al=
so has the effect of reducing the loss resistance of the antenna - perhaps t=
he freezing conditions also affect the effective height. Also, the reduction=
 in Heff seems to be somewhat frequency dependent, with a greater reduction=20=
at lower frequencies. The same was true for 136k/73k measurements I did a fe=
w years back.

I also measured the loss resistance of the 4 antenna configurations - Rloss=20=
reduces with increasing antenna height. At 503kHz it was 24ohms for the 8m i=
nv L, decreasing to 19ohms for the 15m inv V. At 136kHz, it was 66ohms for t=
he 8m inv L, down to 43ohms for the 15m inv V. These figures are much larger=
 than the "open field site" antenna, which was about 8.5ohms at both 136k an=
d 503k.=20

Happy Christmas to all on LF, and all the best for 2008,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't work first time, so try=20
again...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   titl=
e=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com   href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.c=
om">James Moritz</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 24, 2007 4:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF Antenna Effective height comparison</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,<BR><BR>After do=
ing the=20
"open field" antenna tests a couple of weeks ago, I have been repeating fiel=
d=20
strength measurements on my home QTH antenna for comparison. The field stren=
gth=20
measurements generally give lower values for ERP than those calculated from=20=
the=20
dimensions of the antenna and the antenna current, which could be interprete=
d as=20
reduced effective height of the antenna due&nbsp; to the screening effect of=
 the=20
environment around the antenna. I did several sets of measurements at 136kHz=
 and=20
503.8kHz with the antenna in 4 different configurations - inverted L about 4=
0m=20
long at nominally 8m and 10m high, and the same wire supported in the middle=
=20
with a telescopic fibreglass mast to make an inverted V with the apex at abo=
ut=20
13m and 15m high. The radiation resistance of each&nbsp;configuration was=20
calculated using NEC-based antenna simulator software, and from this the=20
effective height was calculated. This was compared with a "measured" Heff&nb=
sp;=20
determined by working backwards from the ERP values and the antenna current=20
measurement<BR><BR>The graph in the attachment compares the calculated and=20
measured Heff for the four different antennas ("Winter 2007"). For compariso=
n,=20
the graph also includes results of similar measurements on the 10m inv L and=
 15m=20
inv V made earlier this year ("Summer 2007"), and the 10m inv L "Open field=20
site" measurements done recently. In the current measurements, the measured=20=
Heff=20
for the home QTH antenna is roughly 2m less than the calculated value, with=20=
Heff=20
being slightly lower for 136kHz than 503kHz. The summertime measurements sho=
w a=20
somewhat larger reduction in Heff, and a greater difference between 136k (ab=
out=20
4m reduction in Heff) and 500k (about 3m reduction). As mentioned before, th=
e=20
measured and calculated open-field site antenna results match quite closely.=
 For=20
the 10m inv L, for which all 3 sets of measurements were available, the appa=
rent=20
effective height for essentially the same antenna varies over a range of abo=
ut=20
2:1.<BR><BR>So it looks like a simple approximate way to model the effects o=
f=20
the environment on the radiated signal from the antenna is to subtract a fix=
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amount from the effective height of the antenna. The amount to be subtracted=
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appears to depend on the time of year. Perhaps this is due&nbsp; to the tree=
s=20
shedding their leaves. The cold weather last week when the&nbsp; measurement=
s=20
were made also has the effect of reducing the loss resistance of the antenna=
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reduction in Heff seems to be somewhat frequency dependent, with a greater=20
reduction at lower frequencies. The same was true for 136k/73k measurements=20=
I=20
did a few years back.<BR><BR>I also measured the loss resistance of the 4=20
antenna configurations - Rloss reduces with increasing antenna height. At 50=
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it was 24ohms for the 8m inv L, decreasing to 19ohms for the 15m inv V. At=20
136kHz, it was 66ohms for the 8m inv L, down to 43ohms for the 15m inv V. Th=
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figures are much larger than the "open field site" antenna, which was about=20
8.5ohms at both 136k and 503k. </FONT></DIV>
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At 18:39 09/12/2007, you wrote:
>IS this you Brian?
>Captured at 136.319 KHz
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>73
>Victor

Yes, I inadvertently started in 90sec mode, later the computer crashed.
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capture who?
henny pa3cpm
73s

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Hello the list,

  Anyone know if SM6BHZ is still on 500kHz? His original permit was supposed 
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Just copied G3WCB on 137.7 kHz in QRSS3.

Captures can be seen here:
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73
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Gm Finbar, LF, MF.

good cpy cw-beacon Gi4DPE this morning on 501.3KHz.

till 0730utc readable.
at 0735utc lost the signal.

73 Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Victor, Henny, LF,

Thanks for your reports of audible signal. Looks like I will have to brush 
up on my rather poor morse for some 2 ways.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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strong signal,gary and audible
18:30z
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73s 




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Hello Andrej.

nice to see you agn on the band. good activity today, 7stations from 6 
countrys received.
 i hope to work you agn.

73 all the best for 2008 Ed DL2HRE
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> Hello.
>> captured this morning on 137.776KHz in 60sec/dot mode.
>> pse who is it?
> It's me EW6GB.
> 73! Andrej.
> 



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Ok ! TNX

73 J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =E9crit :
> may be DJ8WX
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9"=20
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>> Hello Hall ,
>>
>> What is " WX " transmission on 136.318
>>
>> Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















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WD2XGJ QRT at 02:00 UTC for listening,
ice storm expected no further operation tonight.

73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


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> Hi Warren,
> Sorry the grabber was not on the good antenna , it had remained
> in direction of Asia  ! I saw on the grabber W3EEE that you had
> emitted for a test . The grabber is now ready for you! .......
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>
> 



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UA4WPF start now 137777.2  qrss60

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David,

Audible signal here.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Currently have the beacon running overnight with higer power.

  Have just lost a switched mode PSU but when smoke has cleared from garage=20=
will be back on.

  ERP apx 50mW so up 10dB from normal.

  Merry Christmas

  David


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Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 and CW on 505.259 kHz. The QRSS3 signal from
WD2XSH/6 was visible 02:35-05:20 with a lot of rapid fading.
Further copied G0MRF, G0NBD and G4WGT. Around 00:10 parts of the PSK31
transmission from G0MRF were readable.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello,
i had also around 1am utc a good copy of G3XIZ (see attachment).
=20
merry Christmas and a happy new year
DD7PC
=20
JN49ax
Rx: FT-857 and Miniwhip
=20
=20

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gus
Sent: 21 December 2007 01:28
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XIZ


Hello group,
=20
G3XIZ is very strong in SM.
=20
QRG  503,952 kHz..
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=20
73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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N  class=3D870084509-21122007>Rx: FT-857 and Miniwhip</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3XIZ is very strong in SM.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QRG&nbsp; 503,952 kHz..</FONT></DIV>
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Hi John, LF,

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
To: "SHMRG@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu" <shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
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> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
> I've added a few tips to the instructions at http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm 
> .
>
> Thanks to all who reported last night. Hartmut was, of course, the 
> distance champion!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG / WE2XGR/3
>
>
> 




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Dear David, LF Group,

There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to 30MHz=
 or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an issue wi=
th using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work in=
 close proximity to VHF/UHF transmitters, which would be likely to grossly o=
verload the whip preamp without some sort of selectivity at the antenna, so=20=
some kind of  tuned whip or loop might be more appropriate. Another possibil=
ity might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an existing=20=
higher frequency antenna element as the 29MHz receive antenna.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM
  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF

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<DIV>Dear David, LF Group,</DIV>
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<DIV>There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to=20
30MHz or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an iss=
ue=20
with using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work=20=
in=20
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possibility might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an=20
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<DIV>Cheers, Jim Moritz</DIV>
<DIV>73 de M0BMU</DIV>
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  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
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Greetings all

Mal: Maybe your countrymen are busy working Russia on 144 MHz / CW / 
troposcatter this moment (not kidding, wkd GM4ODA/p on the Shetlands,  
OY9JD / Faroe, UA2 .. UT2 yesterday, and these conditions still last today).
Amateur radio at it's best...

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U .

mal schrieb:
> Now its DX time of year acty is vy low, not even this reflector is exciting.
> I suppose its back to hf for excitement, even the satellite business has
> gone.
> Amateur radio could be on the way out.
> Mobile phones, internet skipe are echolink are IN
> FOR SALE
> watch this space, collect with FORK LIFT TRUCK
> G3KEV
>
>
>
>   



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Christmas Greetings "O" copy in Hell at 1245utc. I was visiting relatives
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Thanks Ed and Jean-Pierre for the reports!

I hope Father Christmas has treated all the list members to new longwave rad=
io toys!


73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 5:38 AM
  Subject: LF: 137 reception last night


  Hi LF

  agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/lf_=
news.htm

  also good cpy of UA4WPF and RA3YO.

  merry christmas Ed DL2HRE=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi LF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>agn good cpy of "XGJ" last night, capture=
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On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 08:56:51PM +0100, Frank Dijkshoorn. wrote:
> I am searching for A 18 Meter Telescopic Fibreglass mast.

http://spiderbeam.net/

The 18m mast is 219 EUR. Not cheap, but those Spiderbeam masts are a
lot more rugged and stable than anything else I have used so far.

73,
-- 
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night , on Europe/Asia , still much of beacons at the beginning of nigh=
t !
I copied :

DL2HRE
DJ8WX
CT1DRP
G3AQC
RA3YO

Later , on America, just the  watchman of night ( HI ) was seen :

WD2XGJ
(its signal had good moments, in spite of the current low power)

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
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Mal,

I don=B4t copy any other USA stn here, but I have a very noisy urban site.
This station sent CQ=B4s some minutes ago, but now he is beaconing again.

73 Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jose
  At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full callsign.
  Wonder if any other USA stns on at present on 500
  mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    OK Mal,=20

    Typical QSB of this band observed here as well. The maximum signal measu=
red here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal from USA I=B4ve ever copied o=
n the band.

    73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti





      ----- Original Message -----=20
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      Jose
      Can just get an odd letter then lost in QSB. Will listen for a while f=
or an improvement.
      73 de Mal/g3kev

        ----- Original Message -----=20
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        Hi all,

        Nice audible signal, some 10 dB above noise with 160 Hz BW.


        73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don=B4t copy any other USA stn here, but=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This station sent CQ=B4s some minutes ago,=20=
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is beaconing again.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At 2358 utc sig peaked and got full=20
  callsign.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wonder if any other USA stns on at presen=
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  500</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK Mal, </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Typical QSB of this band observed here=20=
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    The maximum signal measured here was 10 dB(uV/m), the strongest signal f=
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    USA I=B4ve ever copied on the band.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti</FONT></DIV=
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can just get an odd letter then lost=20=
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      Will listen for a while for an improvement.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Lubos!

Yes, it is Finbar testing a very small antenna. 5 metres high with a topload
consisting of an inductance + 4 x 6m top hat wires. He also uses some base
loading on it.

I could copy the callsign by ear during a few 5min periods this evening. The=
 10s
dashes between callsigns stand out well on your FFT and mine looks the same.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo Finbar and ALL!
> I think, it is your signal on 501.315kHz, isn=B4t it? I am trying a new
> configuration of my program for QRSS3.
>
> GL and 73
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>




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Hello LF,
recently i have terrible qrm  ( almost normal situation in a city 
downtown area and balkony antenna)  though i managed  to get
DI2AG station on my screen in qrss10 mode on 505.090 khz . the attached  
capture   was made at 2305 UTC of dec.29.
may i get a short info about the erp pwr of di2ag  station?

                                                                                      
peter, sq7mpj ( jo91rs)

as we  come to the end of december... i wish a Happy  New Year to all of 
you,  much less environmental  losses, much less  qrm
and definitely much more patience  from your  families  watching and  
'living with'    big  L's ,  kV's ....      :)




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Hi John, Jay, LF,

Better results this morning, several hits for Jay (WE2XGR/2) & one only for 
John (WE2XGR/3), see attachment showing the 2 data lines.

I used two set ups with 2 instances of WSJT running with the following, 
quite surprised at the results :-

1 - Yaesu FT-847 with PA0RDT mini-whip at 9 metres high.
2 - JRC NRD-345 with 500 KHz top load vertical at 12 metres high.

Results = number 1 set up won hands down as shown above & no hits with 
number 2 setup.

Well done guys.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSJT JT2 again tonight


> Hartmut,
>
> Thanks! Jay may not be here until around 0100 UTC, due to another schedule 
> on CW.
>
> John A.
>
> Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>> WE2XGR/3 will be transmitting in WSJT's JT2 mode tonight, from 0000 to 
>>> 0300 UTC on 508.500 kHz, on even minutes. WE2XGR/2 will join me for part 
>>> of the evening on the odd minutes, so you may get a decode every minute. 
>>> I've added a few tips to the instructions at 
>>> http://www.w1tag.com/WSJT.htm .
>>
>> first decode here at 00:08. Signal was clearly visible on the
>> waterfall display. Nothing from Jay, WE2XGR/2 here so far.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello.
> captured this morning on 137.776KHz in 60sec/dot mode.
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strong signal 6:15z
henny pa3cpm
73s

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nice signal from UA4WPF nr. the border to Asia!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice signal from UA4WPF nr. the border to=20
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Good morning,
Many thanks for information. Later when the local QRM disappeared i
heard it also with Q5.=20
Signal was then the whole night very good ->
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/gi4dpe_181207.jpg

vy73
Marco
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JN49ax, Rx:FT-857+Miniwhip
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Hello Marco & LF

It sure looks like GI4DPE and at the moment he is repeatedly sending
callsign + 10s dahes on approximately 501.3kHz. I can copy the signals
Q5 by ear here in the better part of the QSB.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

Quoting "Scholz, Marco" <marco.scholz@citi.com>:

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> Sent: Mon Dec 17 21:20:18 2007
> Subject: GI4DPE?
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>  <<gi4dpe_171207.JPG>>
> Hello,
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> i receiving around 501.38 KHz long dashes. Not sure maybe its the=20
> beacon of Finbar GI4DPE?
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> Please see attached file.
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> vy73
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> Marco
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> DD7PC
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> JN49ax
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Lubos,

thank you very much for your report. Looks like a lot of QSB on the signal.


Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO



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  Hallo Geri and all!

  I just captured signal from DI2BO - see on the snapshot.=20

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  Have a nice weekend!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you very much for your report. Looks=20=
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lot of QSB on the signal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dlubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz"=
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ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2007 1=
0:11=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] DI2BO</DIV>
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.4 : F4DTL     ( qrp beacon )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu









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137kHz: Copied WD2XGJ

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Good peaks of the 200W ERP CW signal from WE2XGR/6 02:45-05:30.
WD2XSH/17 QRSS3 copied on 505.23 kHz 23:50-02:53. From the UK copied
G0MRF, G3XIZ and GI4DPE.

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Hello Michael & LF!

No problem to separate you with IC-718/250Hz filter, but the NRD-91/500Hz+
filter lets you both trough. For condx monitoring it is a good thing to have
you both audible at different pitch.

Good to hear your signals again, now a Q5 copy.

A Merry Christmas to you and all LF!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / Finland


Quoting Michael Probert <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>:

> Thanks for the report Paul-Henrik.  I am sorry I did not have space on the
> memory keyer to include "HYVAA JOULA"
> Am I too close to Finbar GI4DPE ?
> My very best wishes to you.
>
> 73
>
> Mike GW4HXO
> __________________________________________________________________________=
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>
> GW4HXO sending repeated x-mas greetings in CW on 501.15kHz, Q3 copy here.
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
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Jim,

Same here, I read your test results with interest.

Thanks for the effort you put into the project.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Jim,
>
> That's an excellent bit of work. Very depressing for city dwellers...we'll
> all have to move to the country. Are you thinking of writing it up for, 
> say,
> RadCom?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz
> Sent: 09 December 2007 13:14
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Antenna tests on 136k and 503k - Results
>
>
> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have now finished the antenna experiments that I started earlier this
> week - this is a summary of the results.
>
> The idea of the tests was to measure the effects on LF/MF antenna
> performance of the environment around the antenna. It is generally 
> expected
> that when a small amateur-type antenna is surrounded by trees, buildings
> etc. that loss resistance will be increased. Also, the ERP achieved using
> such an antenna is usually lower than expected from calculations using the
> antenna geometry and antenna current. But with measurements on a single
> antenna it is difficult to know how much of the observed losses are due to
> these effects, or maybe some sort of error or omission in the calculations
> and measurements. So the idea of these experiments was to compare two
> antennas that were as nearly identical as possible, except that one was
> located at the M0BMU home QTH, surrounded by trees and buildings that are 
> in
> some cases within metres of the antenna, while the other was located in a
> relatively ideal flat, open field, with only a few bushes and fences 
> within
> a 50m radius of the antenna. Both antennas were inverted-L configurations,
> with a single top wire about 40m long at a height of around 10m max. 
> Actual
> measurements of the antennas, and using handbook formulas to calculate
> effective height gave Heff of 8.3m for the home antenna, while the open
> field antenna was slightly lower at Heff = 7.9m. Both antennas used ground
> systems of 4 x 1m long ground rods, within a 1m radius of the antenna feed
> point, and the ground under both antennas was a waterlogged clay soil, 
> which
> should have quite high conductivity.
>
> I measured the antenna loss resistance over the range 10kHz - 600kHz using 
> a
> RF bridge. The home antenna has a resistance that decreases steadily with
> frequency, from 395ohm at 9.5kHz to 56ohm at 136kHz, and 25.5ohm at 
> 503kHz.
> The open field antenna had  radically lower resistance; about 50ohms at
> 10kHz, reducing to 8.5ohms at 136k, showing a broad minimum of around 8 
> ohms
> at 200k, and then increasing slightly to 8.5ohms at 503k and 10 ohms at
> 600k.
>
> Multiple field strength measurements were used to determine ERP. The 
> average
> measured ERP and calculated ERP are calculated below, along with the
> efficiency calculated as (radiated power)/(power to antenna). The 
> calculated
> ERP assumes that the antenna has 2.62dB directive gain over a dipole.
>
> Home QTH, 503.8k: Iant = 400mA, Calculated ERP =  88mW, Measured ERP = 
> 43mW,
> difference -3.1dB, Efficiency = 0.58%
>
> Open field, 503.8k: Iant = 380mA, Calculated ERP = 74mW, Measured ERP =
> 82mW,
> difference +0.5dB, Efficiency =3.7%
>
> Home QTH, 136.0k: Iant = 3.9A, Calculated ERP = 0.62W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.18W,
> difference - 5.4dB, Efficiency = 0.012%
>
> Open field, 136.0k: Iant = 3A, Calculated ERP = 0.34W, Measured ERP = 
> 0.40W,
> difference +0.8dB, Efficiency 0.29%
>
> So the open field ERP values are quite close to those calculated using
> simple text book formulas, while the home QTH figures are substantially
> lower. This could be interpreted as a reduction in Heff and radiation
> resistance Rrad of the home QTH antenna, caused by the screening effect of
> surrounding trees and buildings.
>
> The combined effect of increased Rloss and reduced Rrad of the home QTH
> antenna lead to a surprisingly large reduction in efficiency compared to 
> the
> open field antenna. At 503k, the open field antenna is about 6 times as
> efficient, while at 136k it is a massive 24 times more efficient!
>
> The big difference in Rloss also has implications for loading coil design.
> For these antennas, the required inductance is roughly 4mH at 136k. For 
> the
> home QTH antenna, a modest loading coil with Q of a couple of hundred will
> cause a negligible reduction in radiated signal, due to the relatively 
> high
> loss resistance of the antenna. But for the open field antenna, even a 
> coil
> with a Q of 1000 would dissipate about 1/3 of the TX power, so a much 
> better
> loading coil is needed to get the full benefits of increased antenna
> efficiency. The situation at 500k wouild be much easier due to the lower
> inductance needed. Of course, if you have a big field to put the antenna 
> in,
> a better approach would be to increase the amount of top loading, which
> would also reduce the required inductance, and probably the loss 
> resistance
> too. The fact that Rloss of  8.5ohms was achieved with only a few ground
> rods shows that, for most amateur antennas with higher Rloss than this, 
> the
> ground system is not a very critical factor, at least when the soil has
> reasonably high conductivity.
>
> So the results show that the open field antenna behaves quite closely to 
> the
> text-book expectation, which if nothing else gives a degree of confidence 
> in
> the calculation and measurement methods. The loss resistance has the
> characteristic shown in some texts on LF/VLF antennas, where the 
> resistance
> is a minimum at some frequency, and increases at higher frequencies due to
> increased skin effect loss, and at lower frequencies due to increased
> dielectric loss. The home QTH has increased losses and reduced radiation
> resistance due to its environment. Unfortunately, most of us are stuck 
> with
> this, unless operating /P. Clearly, in these kinds of circumstances, it is
> not very meaningful to think of a LF/MF antenna just in terms of lengths 
> of
> wire and a ground system, but the nature of the surroundings must be
> considered too.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 




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JT  Modes. 
 
Clock synchronisation can be 'automated' by downloading Dimension 4.
This software resets your PC clock against your choice of online time  
standards.
 
Very handy and very stable.
 
73 and Merry Christmas to all on LF / MF
 
David  G0MRF
 
503.7 QRP  3 mode beacon.  3500 hrs and counting.....
 
 
 
In a message dated 23/12/2007 14:18:48 GMT Standard Time,  
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:

Hi John,  LF,

Well, this is my first time to give it a try, I did already have  the 
software because the JT6 mode is being used on the 4 metre band (one  of my 
favourite bands). I will try again tonight, if the weather stays  calm I may 
put the vertical up to 12 mtrs (9 at the moment).

I see  that Hartmut decoded a few lines :-







   

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<DIV>73 and Merry Christmas to all on LF / MF</DIV>
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<DIV>503.7 QRP&nbsp; 3 mode beacon.&nbsp; 3500 hrs and counting.....</DIV>
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capture ct1drp.
the signal is going up and down.
time 19:43z
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time 19:43z</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Hello  all on LF ,

For better managing the strong signals , I passed the grabber to the
version 2.7b20 of SpectrunLab ( thank you Wolf for this splendid tool )
  I hope for that I did not make errors, that seems to function correctly
until there! one will be fixed tomorrow !

grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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(UA4)WPF was audible last night here in jo43sv. aerial: K9AY loop.
in addition pse see attachment.
has the station been switched off at 0300UTC ?

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Hallo LF!
Transmitter SAQ is ON and it is just tuned up.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Hello Graham,

the load (=3D loading coil) is at a rather unusual place: at the top of =20
the vertical wire. Or to be exact, one segment below the top.
If you want the load just above the feeding point just change "w1e1" =20
into "w1b1" (=3D one segment from the bottom).

The "trick" with MMANA is that wires only interconnect at their ends, =20
so the correct interconnection between a single vertical wire and =20
multiple horizontal wires is a bit tricky and need an number of short =20
wires.

Regarding earth: any wire at zero height is considered to be grounded. =20
So no need to worry about that.
As mentioned by G3YMC ground(loss) is not taken into account for the =20
impedance conculations. In my opinion this is a good thing, as this =20
allows to calculate the radiation resistance even al low efficiency.
At 136kHz and even at 500kHz it would be hard to calculate the losses =20
as greenery often plays a much larger role the soil. Beyond that the =20
waves penetrate that deep into the soil that only in very few cases =20
you can assume the ground is a uniform layer.

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> Ok Thanks for that Rik,
>
> Thats the basic layout , ive only 2 top wires , but thats the layout ..
> I see you have a load defined in the geometry listing , but where on
> the ae is it located ? , I found one post on the user group , where a
> element could be given a short  lenght and have inductance added to  it
> .. that way you could control where the coil  was placed
>
> My ae has the 'coil' at the 90 deg bend , top of the vertical section ,
> if i could work out how to  add that, I  would be half way there ! the
> earth system would be the other half  hihi
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe"  =20
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> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can
> anyone'code' an array ?
>
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> attached a MMANA-GAL file that simulates my 136kHz antenna when
>> adapted for 500kHz.
>> Maybe that will be of some help.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD
>>
>> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>>
>>> -HELP- MMANA-GAL Antenna analyzer .... can anyone 'code' an array ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After several attempts .. and getting no-where  fast , Is there anyone
>>> who can code a top loaded antenna array ? the array is in the shape of
>>> a inverted L . with top  loading coil  and 2 wire capacity section
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can find some similar files , but can I add to  them .... not as yet !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It  'works'  up to  about  5 mhz , then falls over , I have a feeling
>>> the earth system is playing a part in this ... also how do  you code a
>>> parallel 2 wire section ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> G0NBD
>>
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Hi John,

  Finally a decode! Below in its entirety:
004300  0  -23  1.8 -978  0

   VISTA is FLAKEY with some of the soundcard programs, especially 
SPECTRAN - SPECTRAN NEVER Crashed in WIN XP but crashes all the time in 
VISTA

Happy Christmas,

Warren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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> Warren,
>
> Perhaps there is a Vista issue...maybe some web surfing will turn it up. 
> Thus far nobody else has reported audio source issues in the tests that 
> Jay and I have done.
>
> John A.
>
> K2ORS wrote:
>
>>  Being only 25 miles away, I hear your WSJT signal FB but as far as 
>> decode I get
>> NADA
>
> 



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Hello Mal,

Ok on the 160 m DXing; I wondered where you'd got to.

I'll let Doug G3ZWH know that you're hearing him ok as I don't think he's on the reflector - that should cheer him up.

I have 42 UK stations listed on my '500 kHz OPerators' Spread-Sheet' now but many of the early active chaps seem to have gone QRT.
Maybe they'll re-appear once their Christmas shopping is done !

Seasons greetings and 73,

Chris G3XIZ





mal <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote: A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.
The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in
English waters, so they say.
g3kev



       
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Hello Mal,<br><br>Ok on the 160 m DXing; I wondered where you'd got to.<br><br>I'll let Doug G3ZWH know that you're hearing him ok as I don't think he's on the reflector - that should cheer him up.<br><br>I have 42 UK stations listed on my '500 kHz OPerators' Spread-Sheet' now but many of the early active chaps seem to have gone QRT.<br>Maybe they'll re-appear once their Christmas shopping is done !<br><br>Seasons greetings and 73,<br><br>Chris G3XIZ<br><br><br><br><br><br><b><i>mal &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> A nice sig at present fm GI4DPE. I have hrd G3ZWH the odd time abt 569.<br>The Shetlands alligator has submerged below the waves, but could surface in<br>English waters, so they say.<br>g3kev<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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Hallo Graham and ALL!
I was QRV on 500kHz last night, but the conditions were extremly poor
here. Beacons DI2AM and DI2AG are 589 normaly, but last night they were
449 only. Their signals are normaly like very strong white lines on the
screen, but last night were only some dB above the noise. And the noise
was more stronger than some nights before.=20
If the conditions will be normal this night, I am ready for SWL test for
you, Graham. It is interesting for me!

GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Subject: LF: CW 503.2 - QRT 0200 HRS

QRT FROM 0200  HRS

TNX

G ..



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From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ


May be a bad night ,,, winds blowing from the east !

G ..




----- Original Message -----=20
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ




01.12.07, 03:03, . Roman (rw3adb@yandex.ru):

> OK, trying on qrss30/sectran now.

Nothing yet, Graham -(


> 01.12.07, 02:50, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > Reduced the keying speed to  1 wpm
> > ill leave it running for a hour or so ,
> > tnx
> > Graham ..
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ
> > Hi Graham!
> > Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use?
> > 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
> > >  HI All ,
> > > If anyone's about ,,,
> > > Trying out  'new' Ae configuration , running a  cw beacon on 503.2
,=20
> > > if
> > > you
> > > can 'see' it
> > > Reports welcome
> > > Tnx
> > > Graham
> > > G0NBD / IO83LK
> > --
> > 73!
> > Roman, RW3ADB
> > "=A7=AD=A7=F0=A7=D5=A7=DA =A7=D9=A7=D1 =A7=E2=A7=D1=A7=D2=A7=E0=A7=E4=
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> > http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.xml?id=3D12
> --
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
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Hello  all on LF ,

The grabber is under tests in this moment! I generate a carrier
on 136320 to test the behavior of Spec Lab to the strong signals.
For information the carrier is to 60 dB with the top of the noise!

grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

CT1DRP
G3AQC
DF6NM
DJ8WX

WD2XGJ ( The lighthouse of Wayland ! )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

Happy new year to everyone !

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Jean
ur grabber is stuck, not moving also do u have 500 khz facility
mal/g3kev

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Hello  all on LF ,

I have just started my grabber, the antenna is with the QTF 55°
in direction of Asia, I will commutate the antenna with the QTF
285° in direction of America to 21:00 UTC.
grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Im beaconing very low power "DTL" on 137.776.3 QRSS60
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP





   

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LF,

Traces of EW6GB tonight QRSS3 on 137,705. (T copy, the letters G and B
visible. See screenshot).

EW6GB's signal was solid copy on the DL2HRE grabber earlier.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dmitry
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Subject: Re: LF: ew6gb



> Hi LF
>
> EW6GB CQ 137720 qrss3
>
NW QRSS10

 Dmitry


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Hello  all on LF ,

Last night i copy  :

137776.3 : F4DTL     ( qrp beacon , good )
137777.6 : RA3YO    ( good )
137778.8 : WD2XGJ ( good signal )
137779.2 : WD2XES ( nil )
137781.0 : WD2XNS ( nil )
136318.5 : DJ8WX    ( vy good signal )
136318.8 : G3XDV     ( nil )
136319.0 : CT1DRP    ( nil )

The captures of night are with this URL :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

see grabber at :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu









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Dave

     A while back I came across an interesting HF/VHF  active antenna design=
 by the Naval Research  Laboratory which has dual polarization and is intend=
ed for radio astronomy applications:

http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/J03-P.15(0981).pdf

Also check the following paper:
Design and Evaluation of an Active Antenna for a 29-47 MHz Radio Telescope A=
rray
Ellingson, S.W.   Simonetti, J.H.   Patterson, C.D.  =20
Dept. of Electr. & Comput. Eng., Virginia Polytech. Inst. & State Univ.;


This paper appears in: Antennas and Propagation, IEEE Transactions on
Publication Date: March 2007
Volume: 55,  Issue: 3, Part 2
On page(s): 826-831
Location: St. Petersburg, Russia,=20
ISSN: 0018-926X
INSPEC Accession Number: 9357586
Digital Object Identifier: 10.1109/TAP.2007.891866
Posted online: 2007-03-12 12:44:43.0


   Abstract
The eight-meter-wavelength transient array (ETA) is a new radio telescope co=
nsisting of 12 dual-polarized, 38 MHz-resonant dipole elements which are ind=
ividually instrumented, digitized, and analyzed in an attempt to detect rare=
 and as-yet undetected single dispersed pulses believed to be associated wit=
h certain types of astronomical explosions. This paper presents the design a=
nd demonstrated performance of ETA's dipole antennas. An inverted V-shaped d=
esign combined with a simple and inexpensive active balun yields sensitivity=
 which is limited only by the external noise generated by the ubiquitous Gal=
actic synchrotron emission over a range greater than the 27-49 MHz design ra=
nge. The results confirm findings from a recent theoretical analysis, and th=
e techniques described here may have applications in other problems requirin=
g in situ evaluation of large low-frequency antennas=20


Happy Christmas!
Vy 73 Warren



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  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:04 AM
  Subject: LF: E-field probes.


  Seasons greetings all.

  Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies?

  Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh=
ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.=
  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna.  I wondere=
d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.

  Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci=
sion?

  Regards

  David  G0MRF

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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A while back I came across an interesting=20
HF/VHF&nbsp; active antenna design by the Naval Research&nbsp; Laboratory wh=
ich=20
has dual polarization and is intended for radio astronomy applications:</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A   href=3D"http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/J03-P.15(0981=
).pdf">http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/J03-P.15(0981).pdf</A></=
DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Also check the following paper:</DIV><TR><TD>
<P><SPAN class=3DheadNavBlueXLarge2>Design and Evaluation of an Active Anten=
na for=20
a 29=9647 MHz Radio Telescope Array</SPAN><BR><SPAN   class=3DbodyCopyBlackL=
argeSpaced>Ellingson, S.W.&nbsp;&nbsp; Simonetti,=20
J.H.&nbsp;&nbsp; Patterson, C.D.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Dept. of Electr. &amp; Comp=
ut.=20
Eng., Virginia Polytech. Inst. &amp; State Univ.;<BR></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DbodyCopyBlackLargeSpaced>This paper appears in: <A   href=3D""><S=
TRONG>Antennas and Propagation, IEEE Transactions=20
on</STRONG></A><BR>Publication Date: March 2007<BR>Volume: 55,&nbsp; <A   hr=
ef=3D"">Issue: 3</A>, Part 2<BR>On page(s): 826-831<BR>Location: St. Petersb=
urg,=20
Russia, <BR>ISSN: 0018-926X<BR>INSPEC Accession Number: 9357586<BR>Digital=20
Object Identifier: 10.1109/TAP.2007.891866<BR>Posted online: 2007-03-12=20
12:44:43.0<BR></P></TD></TR><TR><TD>
<DIV><IMG height=3D10 src=3D"" width=3D165></TD> </TR><TR><TD bgcolor=3D"#cf=
e2ff"><IMG   height=3D1 src=3D"" width=3D165></TD> </TR><TR><TD><IMG height=
=3D10 src=3D""   width=3D165></TD> </TR><TR><TD class=3DbodyCopyBlackLargeSp=
aced><SPAN   class=3DsectionHeaders>Abstract</SPAN><BR>The eight-meter-wavel=
ength transient=20
array (ETA) is a new radio telescope consisting of 12 dual-polarized, 38=20
MHz-resonant dipole elements which are individually instrumented, digitized,=
 and=20
analyzed in an attempt to detect rare and as-yet undetected single dispersed=
=20
pulses believed to be associated with certain types of astronomical explosio=
ns.=20
This paper presents the design and demonstrated performance of ETA's dipole=20
antennas. An inverted V-shaped design combined with a simple and inexpensive=
=20
active balun yields sensitivity which is limited only by the external noise=20
generated by the ubiquitous Galactic synchrotron emission over a range great=
er=20
than the 27-49 MHz design range. The results confirm findings from a recent=20
theoretical analysis, and the techniques described here may have application=
s in=20
other problems requiring in situ evaluation of large low-frequency antennas=20
</TD></TR><TR><TD><IMG height=3D10 src=3D"" width=3D165></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Happy Christmas!<BR>Vy 73 Warren</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></TD></TR>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr   style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARG=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black=
"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DG0MRF@aol.com href=3D"mailto:G0MRF@aol.com">G0MRF@aol.com</A> <=
/DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 24, 2007 10:=
04=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: E-field probes.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=
=3D2>
  <DIV>Seasons greetings all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to&nbsp;HF=20
  frequencies?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportuni=
ty=20
  where we could&nbsp;propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a=20
  satellite.&nbsp; However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional=20
  antenna. &nbsp;I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.</=
DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a=
=20
  decision?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Regards</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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Tnx Arnim
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Dr Mal! Ur rprt is nw 559 in jo31 hp on 502,5 Khz !Pse listen on 3533 Khz Vy
73 Arnim DL1EIE

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von mal
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007 13:46
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Hi all
Very quiet these days around EU on 500 and 136, just an odd trickle of acty.
The reflector has almost fizzled out as well.
I am calling cq at present on 502.5 if anyone wants a qso.
73 de mal/g3kev




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Just captured UA4WPF comming out of noise here in NW UK IO83QP.

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ok, Gary!

I'm waiting.



08.12.07, 23:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi Roman, LF,

> Thanks for looking, I am still transmitting. I will continue until about=20

> 2300 utc or a little later.

> Keep watching please.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> ----- Original Message -----=20

> From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:34 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: 500 DFCW

> > Hi Gary & LF!

> >

> >

> >

> > Monitoring is near 503.6 in Moscow now.

> >

> > QRSS10.

> >

> >

> >

> > Did not copy your signal, Gary.

> >

> > Your TX is off now?

> >

> >

> >

> > 08.12.07, 19:31, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):

> >

> >

> >

> >> Hi LF,

> >

> >> Sending "G4WGT" using DFCW10 on 503.600 KHz.

> >

> >> Reports welcome.

> >

> >> 73

> >

> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > 73!

> >

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Tnx Lubos for the nice xband qso 502.5/3533 khz a few minutes ago at 2307utc=
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HNY and 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:38 PM
  Subject: LF: [500] DI2BO once more


  Unbelievably strong signal now!

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> Hello Hall ,
> Who is it  ? it has been a few evenings that I see a signal on this frequency ?
> See picture !
> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

RA3YO

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