From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC11-103472e1b362f2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:19:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC19-103472e1b362f2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:19:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokzo-0003Z4-9B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokzn-0003Yv-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:55 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokzk-0005In-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 34264 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 19:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.87.32 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 19:18:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iA.AfhEVM1llkWKjUI17mUh3n5mp_ONIrVVDm9AOL3BdNvf8jp61vtHdD_qOzjQxfPw0ejGsDQqnHTQQHwNy4FUslp7Cnczk3Fk5cAOx4M0dn4gC From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472E1B09.14796.2B01635@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01>, <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 4 Nov 2007 at 19:00, Graham wrote: > Mike > > Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol > , > > have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. > > G .. I assume it is a typo, but his callsign is GW4HXO.... Peaking 589 in Bracknell. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a6e473c4086269; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:50:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e473c4086269; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:50:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IseAb-0007fh-L0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IseAb-0007fY-9K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IseAZ-0001Va-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c11.22af1d9d (30737) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:49:27 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:49:27 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195130967" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195130967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 15/11/2007 12:16:54 GMT Standard Time, uwe-jannsen@versanet.de writes: gravitation has to be decreased It might have to be increased....... so we can all keep our feet firmly on the ground:-) -------------------------------1195130967 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 15/11/2007 12:16:54 GMT Standard Time,=20 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de writes:
gravitation has to be decreased
It might have to be increased.......
so we can all keep our feet firmly on the=20 ground:-)
-------------------------------1195130967-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b82473f77d7193; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:23:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD064-b82473f77d7193; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:23:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWzl-0006vM-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWzk-0006vD-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItWzi-0004EH-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03663DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.038,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 "James Moritz" wrote: > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying > to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and > down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz > although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. > Conditions seem quite poor here tonight. Finbar fading between 599 and 549 DI2AM the only Eu QRSS beacon visible GW4HXO fading bewtween 439 and nil Nothing on seen on grabber yet of WE2XGR/6 although Finbar reports hearing him at 22:48 Very strong QRN to make it even worse. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8c4472bbe782b7; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c4472bbe782b7; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:19:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6ir-00009b-8o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6iq-00009S-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:44 +0000 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io6io-0000uo-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:44 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c97.1c2b8df9 (48624) for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:18:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 Good conditions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194049111" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194049111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 00.15 and it looks like the 5mW G0MRF beacon is hopping over Birmingham at about 140km and landing quite nicely in The Shetlands at about 900km. 73 David -------------------------------1194049111 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
00.15 and it looks like the 5mW G0MRF beacon is hopping over Birmingham= at=20 about 140km and landing quite nicely in The Shetlands at about 900km.
 
73
 
David
-------------------------------1194049111-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a1e472f8565152; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:04:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG068-a1e472f8565152; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:04:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip97V-000858-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip97V-00084z-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: from web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip97V-0003yK-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 50550 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 21:04:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bM+zFzwGCFMHWKXsL/ERaKNHn92g3FwcZOgQZ1mrhtSiUa5wLOhFxXtRhnqTm8HJ/uxIPFNKAvaquWK8rd2xrR5jmmCWmycEuSAjH2LbFVtWkmAXy+Hfir3tKTRUzRdjDKR+f6cn+5jgPcewDJ+BtG32ugXKuBB5zAyd8T7KINY=; X-YMail-OSG: ePtv594VM1k5f53QdAfgpkfVXPvGSV0E.D4XfRJJ9fWEJYU2XSC3oicSh6ETUlAAgEakYpnMikRZoafZyPuO58NBHsOzWm.9Pgqz3f1ETtmDz6mZ Received: from [78.144.227.245] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:03 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:04:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <233314.48220.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: -614: (null data) DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re. LF Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John Your sigs went down at 2045 and mostly stayed that way until now 2100z. No audio, visual only on waterfall but unreadable. At 2056 there was a 30 sec burst at audio 449. Nothing now. Going QRT until 2300z Mike G3GMS ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-6d5473c1b26162; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:11:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB67-6d5473c1b26162; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:10:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbgJ-0006fs-5n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbgI-0006fj-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsbgF-0007RT-PZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1B83EA142 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6690B3EA12F for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473C1B09.3040808@online.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The noise this night was rather low, at the beginning of night very good copy of WD2XGJ, at the end of the night WD2XKO was very strong! (20 dB with the top of the noise) it fell brutally on arrival of the sun, its traces were visible still 1 hour 30 mn see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-9774744a0af18c; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:18:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-9774744a0af18c; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:18:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwxZ-0006pB-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwxY-0006p2-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuwxU-0000Od-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lALLI33j098861 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:18:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000401c82c83$fe9fc2c0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:17:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QSO Etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello all, I have followed the discussion on crossband QSO's today. A few minutes ago I had a crossband QSO with G3KEV. Whilst calling him it dawned upon me that there is a very simple solution to this problem: I just send: G3KEV on 502 kHz de PA0RDT K. Mal send my call as PA0RDT on 3553 kHz. This way listeners on 600 m and 80 m do know exactly what is going on. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 521 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8ad4742e4d32f2; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:44:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad4742e4d32f2; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:44:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuTOd-0001QY-9Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuTOc-0001QP-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:10 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuTOX-0000Kz-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ezaq1Y0040cZkys0508k00; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:43:59 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id F1ju1Y0062Uxt080300000; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:43:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=piBfTJC0-lGg1QHaMC8A:9 a=613SB1H5lDEOLXZ-mFSYS9F57C4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <3C87970CB7D045799D88801AC71547A6@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:43:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre and Willem, Thank you for the reports and captures of WD2XGJ ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:41 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ > Hello LF , > > Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a8c472da43da5; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:51:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA094-a8c472da43da5; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:51:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod4A-0006c8-Ki for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod4A-0006bz-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from smtpout0188.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.188] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iod47-00046I-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.86) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0026F77D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:50:40 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c81ed0$8c7ecc10$56ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:49:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.440 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : The appliance operators of today could not handle SPARK nor have they heard about such things as crystal sets. You have obviously picked up an old comic !!!!!!!!!!!! or you are older than you think. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > > a mode that noone else bothers about. > > Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-10d473ec5de2c8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:44:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC29-10d473ec5de2c8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:43:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItL8z-0004Iu-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItL8s-0004Il-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.140] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItL8o-0000OU-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:14 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E003827A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,37646ae185a98e3d,7ad9ba93e9b8200b,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1537:1561:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3636:3690:3865:3868:3870:4043:4250:4647:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m66-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.66]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82906$a105e5c0$42e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:42:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 condx Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Some improvement in condx early this morning. Managed 339 fm VE1ZZ but did not hear any W stns. GI4DPE had better luck and worked VE and W again. Will keep checking for another big opening and hopefully be hrd in the USA 73 De Mal/g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b1b4740bec81a9; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:38:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4740bec81a9; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itslj-0004w8-Un for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itslj-0004vz-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itslg-0006m1-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68E4E4555 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DD5KGMN1Kjai for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDD04E44E2 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:36:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82a33$86c03020$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.283 Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3B.E8849820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3B.E8849820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary and ALL! And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. 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I shut down WD2XGJ at 07:00 UTC last night. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Laurence KL1X > > John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the signals. Nothing > this morning I can see > > - Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available > > Laurence 9V1 LF > http://kl1x.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the sign= als.  Nothing this morning I can see
 
- Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available
 
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Try now! =3D --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a21473dc1a924b; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a21473dc1a924b; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It3o3-0002gp-37 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It3o2-0002gg-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0156.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.156] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It3nz-0006BW-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:34 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0036A100 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:03 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,aeec1836587c4ffb,3d2f085e02610469,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2691:2692:2828:2915:3027:3318:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:4647:4699:5007:6119:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5, Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m15-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.15]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John I did work VE1ZZ who gave me 549 when I popped out of the qsb at 0117 utc. I had been 339 for some time before this. It was a good qso and he got his report etc solid from me. Unfortunately condx have taken a dip since. I need another opening like this for a qso with the USA. That same night I heard WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked him but he was in beacon mode. I have not heard him since. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > Hi all > > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the > > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out > > Hello Mal and LF group, > > I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening > (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. > > > I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that > night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may > have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed > the late night excitement. > > Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in > which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this > month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in > stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and > finally 10mW. > > At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent > a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX > power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together > fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers > correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine > what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? > > Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my > audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while > driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've > heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear > Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to > Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard > from Dave later in the evening. > > > > The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this > becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. > > > Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. > > John GM4SLV > Clousta, Shetland > IP90gg > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-11c472cd26bf9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:56:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC44-11c472cd26bf9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoP5j-0006sk-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoP5i-0006sb-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:34 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoP5f-0000AT-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 7277 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 19:55:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4Ii5e7gK3hk6V3yDzSzKbOcQjJbN8ITAjTmUHZA2IEhblsysH7qFVmhfZeTIMUTrli3TzKtu8N77dEHBHPcVZkWQPfwlHltltiv4D338miNlhCBmzleNdSNetiKXCXixVk4MPVyqFVd98iPBA5cfD22AQYxLoRXpWU3AfcOgfgA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 19:55:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: W7YVp1AVM1luKI1noyDT9IhrD3x90AH0W7cyfcjaGDj2PCnU3DOZhmhu3WmO73uqsmwX5tKcHA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:53:26 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:53:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Gary, LF Group, At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% copy at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it running for a while. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > Graham, & All at LF, > > I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no other > decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift when I > see this message come through on the LF group mail. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > > > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the > > option , only 200/170 hz ? > > > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM > > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > > > > >> LF, > >> > >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon > >> so MultiPSK users can decode. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9f14744d4f21da; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:01:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14744d4f21da; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv0Qj-0007Ku-GW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv0Qi-0007Kl-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:32 +0000 Received: from webmail19.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv0Qe-00022W-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:32 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail19) by mail.yandex.ru id S1744957AbXKVBAW for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.89.61] ([85.141.89.61]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:18 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000257905430 References: 1650000000257905430 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1013931195693222@webmail19.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi John & All! Many TNX for your fine business! I don't know the other grabber for 500 kHz in europe. Next time I will be glad to make a grabber at home in Moscow. Can your tell me a technical details? 20.11.07, 14:26, John GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > Hello LF, > I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's > "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! > The new URL is: > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk > The grabber is at > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm > The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change > the page to announce a move of location. > Regards. > John > GM4SLV -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-1c6473dcf2bec; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:11:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC34-1c6473dcf2bec; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:11:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It4hj-0002r5-5y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It4hi-0002qw-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It4he-0001SY-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:05 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAGH9uXW013546 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:10:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000c01c82873$7f865800$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:09:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, There was also an evening opening in the lower NDB band for Canadian NDB's. This is a rare event for sure. Often conditions are taking a dip at this time of the year. This is also called the winter anomaly. To cheer you up, after Christmas conditions often improve considerable. However one should never give up, as nice conditions have often come unexpected at times. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 517 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a03473f5fe9e0; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03473f5fe9e0; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVPL-0005k8-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVPK-0005jz-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVPI-0005st-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:54 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EF9DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:43 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117214043.7f0dc66b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , First try... STING HIIBAROWN P UM OVER THE AZY DG ETINL B GJRAVH G4LRH G4WTIOMFBENG RY YURYRYRYRYVT FRZRS RQYJYRYRYRJGU I thought it would print better than that! Will fiddle with RX settings. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-99d47349ded17; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:51:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d47349ded17; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:50:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY02-0008Tj-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:50:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY02-0008TZ-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:50:34 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqXzx-0001yo-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:50:34 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:50:03 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:50:03 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c822f8$ef41cd80$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:49:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2007 17:50:03.0317 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4BAB650:01C822F8] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xko0911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C82301.50F0B1B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C82301.50F0B1B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0067_01C82301.50F0B1B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0067_01C82301.50F0B1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xko 8:25z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0067_01C82301.50F0B1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir1G1-0003eZ-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:05:04 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Ir1FU-00076y-01; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:04:28 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (Z2tg+8ZCghO1MPwekqpckhAIBU1znFx5-u55PkdtLrZIJXi8t5hzQwnCYBKI0qHZS+@[217.95.86.53]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ir1FM-0KYojY0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:04:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2007 01:03 GMT Message-ID: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: Z2tg+8ZCghO1MPwekqpckhAIBU1znFx5-u55PkdtLrZIJXi8t5hzQwnCYBKI0qHZS+ X-TOI-MSGID: 43265823-c539-4dc1-abde-d10a5842e870 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: GI4DPE fb audible in JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, later on (Sunday 11. November 2007, 0.05 - 0.25 UTC) in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, I heard GI4DPE in qso with GI3DPN (unheard) with good copy (s-meter slightly moving) and reporting about his xband qsos with OH1LSQ and VE1VDM and on the qrm around 3533 kHz from the ongoing contest. After closing with GI3DPN he called again cq de GI3DPE qsx 3533 two times - and I was not prepared to respond, sri, but hope to be on another night. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b6d475084923bf; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:46:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d475084923bf; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:45:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDgA-0005AT-Gi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDgA-0005AK-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyDg4-0007wl-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K9UM1Y00K17dt5G0501z00; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:31 +0000 Received: from amailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.225.119]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K9lV1Y0032bBRH00300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QJYSoCyG4QEA:10 a=jSgAKEDwlalt5/JD+1dgpQ==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=6JC1I0XzAAAA:8 a=LA2STMBXAAAA:8 a=pI_ePt_7lTRX8IjtwO4A:9 a=ZpLFd3f8vP1iIeh1bEgA:7 a=QlkeAUn9y4ul7w-QUZM8N2o5JYwA:4 a=KHklEoEtryoA:10 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by amailcenter19.comcast.net; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:28 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Sergeant" Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:28 +0000 Message-Id: <113020072145.21769.47508478000275660000550922120592149C9D01CD05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: azJvcnNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: [500]ARRL Letter reports on transatlantic QSOs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also no mention of the TWO QSOs that Finbar GI4DPE had with Bob WE2XGR/6 and that is more than 100 miles further than the WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE QSO. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dave Sergeant" > The following has just appeared in today's ARRL Letter: > > * 500 kHz Experiment Charting New Territory: The evening of November > 13 saw the first transatlantic contact on 500 kHz between amateur > experimental stations. US experimental station WE2XGR/2 (Jay > Rusgrove, W1VD, in Connecticut) and GI4DPE (Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF, > in Northern Ireland) communicated by standard-speed CW for about 15 > minutes. On that same night, US experimental stations WD2XSH/12 (Mike > Mussler, AI8Z, in Colorado) and WD2XSH/20 (Rudy Severns, N6LF, in > Oregon) made the first contact in the western half of the USA. Two > days later, WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE repeated their feat and WD2XSH/12 had > contacts with WD2XSH/6 (Pat Hamel, W5THT, in Mississippi) and > WD2XSH/13 (John Oehlenschlager, K0JO, in Minnesota). The ARRL 500 kHz > experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued in September 2006 and has 19 > active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of Vermont, serves as experimental > project manager for The 500 KC Experimental Group for Amateur Radio > . > > (No mention of the crossband QSOs between VE1ZZ and the UK though). > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-89e4737859ee5; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e4737859ee5; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLWk-0003Gu-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLWk-0003Gi-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLWf-0006rf-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8B64E4935 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8qMgyZneTIoo for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1063B4E4927 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:43:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c824b4$3ac4d330$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C824BC.9C893B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C824BC.9C893B30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo Finbar and ALL! Very nice signal, audible 569, no QRN. GL and 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo Finbar and ALL!

Very nice signal, audible 569, no QRN.<= /span>

 

GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( bad conditions last night on 137 kHz ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b6547405545184; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:07:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b6547405545184; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:07:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlkI-0002Z0-Pv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:07:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlkI-0002Yr-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:07:38 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] 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(VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, LF, The slower speed has made a substantial improvement, thanks for the report & copy of text. 739 Km in daytime, wonder if I can achieve a greater distance after dark, we will see, watch this space. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > > > 100% copy:- > > > > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > 2007-NOV-18 14:54 UTC > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > > > Nice! > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-901473738c1184; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:15:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901473738c1184; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrGOQ-0002Ir-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrGOO-0002Ii-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:40 +0000 Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrGOK-0001m7-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:40 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id BRgH1Y0040QkzPw010Cf00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BVE81Y0013tmwjw0000000; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:09 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=uZgXX79qHpiUxnHnWIUA:9 a=IM5RJ0NRegpBeoRey93yYngAtZ8A:4 a=ufO146cb3fEA:10 Message-ID: <4737386D.8010901@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:21 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Steve McDonald wrote: >> However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is >> so pathetically wimpy now > > If you can't hear it tomorrow then it must not be on. Hi Steve, On 275 today, there are two discernible signals: 'BBN' 160 miles east-ish on Long Island, which is some 6dB bigger than 'PS' 100m north-west-ish on the other side of State College. Nary a whisper of 'ING', sorry. Looking back at notes from 1996, ING 275 joins a sad list of HXM 366, XCB 260, AB 400 and PD 222 (with possibly others which are inaudible now); locals that have fallen off their perches. A sizable percentage. Make hay while the sun (still) shines . . . Cheers, Steve http://www.w3eee.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a2e474413bc25e; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e474413bc25e; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IunZZ-0004td-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IunZZ-0004tU-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IunZV-0004XX-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 23BA01C00084 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:16:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.238]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E376E1C00081 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071121111639932.E376E1C00081@mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000901c82c30$09ebcd80$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local><003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121103259.2859552f@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.081 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Luv 15 , new balls please ! ................G .. Ps Bit harsh on the request for measurements there John! , quite a technical challenge to measure such small values ? intresting 'field' ! http://www.boulder.nist.gov/div818/81801/MicroNanoElect/ ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Have you heard the one about the " >> WHINGING POME" > > pome (pm) > n. > A fleshy fruit, such as an apple, pear, or quince, having several seed > chambers and an outer fleshy part largely derived from the hypanthium. > > > Fruity! > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 11/20/2007 17:44 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7f474e01961a7; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:02:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD061-b7f474e01961a7; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:02:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxWr9-0000He-Q8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxWr9-0000HV-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxWr6-00065G-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JP4u1Y00516LCl00506300; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:05 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQ201Y00E2Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhCvLg7INEcA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=EYGnpnNsrNsb8Nz2CUsA:9 a=3YxCG451n391p8HQjkUiErh06XgA:4 a=IsUHOSoT7wwA:10 a=w9M6L-lLX9RaXb4r5FUA:9 a=5jpdOm2u3gdGJtWAEXsA:7 a=7h9emF3OtxWvCSTQv2yUurUheoUA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:01:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D446&posted=3D1#post446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. 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Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum.
 
Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE.
 
 
STRAP!!
------=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-aec474fc8ac208; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:24:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec474fc8ac208; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:24:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy19O-00041D-Tc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy19O-000414-EB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy18V-00045A-0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BDA3EA0D4 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8633EA12A for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474FC82F.3040002@online.fr> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.136 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , This night , the noise was very low , nevertheless the propagation was not with return !!! ( completely in conformity with the forecasts of Alan G3NYK ) good copy of WD2XGJ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-9544736167b253; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:37:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-9544736167b253; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:37:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqx4d-0005jp-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqx4d-0005jg-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqx4b-0007l0-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9CDA4D9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:50 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 502 RTTY G3XIZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, Chris, In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN. Seeing G0MRF too. QRN level low! Hearing G3XIZ calling CQ in CW and then RTTY 85KHz shift/45Bd on 502kHz RYRY CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ RYRY CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ PSE K Decoding really well! Cheers, -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC41-1bb472f7d37125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC23-1bb472f7d37125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:29:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8ZY-0007Rn-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8ZX-0007Re-VK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:24 +0000 Received: from smtp129.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.95.92]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8ZX-0004Jx-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 52518 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 20:29:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X7/NGWNRfHxgzR37Xi5k4FA9BAxrMmLYkpCyyTQjSXjw/AldZZZx3ubK9C877GDTZNtn1PSqBfiMsrZb1SzIU6M0umeaRZXvSuCdhPXoI3A/T9diqsZBDzVV6g6qODiIqKIwlGgLzN6zI1jsCPgnc4owKLVY4ELZahk7w6hRm24= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp129.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 20:29:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DXtAVh0VM1mtj_sIBzEzfvbyWpDod2Xw.lYRp5qXW_4pCTb9m9vmp2OYTOooTj.01A1UPOLtBw-- Message-ID: <472F7D0B.8070404@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:28:59 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, james.moritz@btopenworld.com References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, I would like a copy if you can. Thank you much, Mike WE0H James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b28474bd22a196; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28474bd22a196; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvbU-0004FR-Pj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvbU-0004FI-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwvbR-00071U-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F4C3EA0E8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BC93EA0FE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474BD224.2090206@online.fr> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.136 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night nothing here see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a54474b5847163; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a54474b5847163; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwnTX-0002yH-JL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwnTX-0002y8-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.214]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwnTT-0004XR-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W4 ([207.46.11.167]) by bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:34:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.10] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:34:35 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2007 23:34:35.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[E78AD1B0:01C83084] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_" Subject: RE: LF: 136kHz beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,LINK_TO_NO_SCHEME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... =20 Laurence Singapore From: F4DTL@aol.comDate: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136kHz beacon Hello Mike =20 Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FPRX: IC 756 PROAnt: mini whip PA0RDT _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.=A0 Join in= . www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline=3D --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms...
 
Laurence
Singapore


From: F4DTL@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon

Hello Mike
 
Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP
RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip PA0RDT

Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we d= onate. Join in! =3D --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b9047448bee25a; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:50:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b9047448bee25a; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:50:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuva0-0006V1-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvZz-0006Us-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuvZw-0005uc-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:47 +0000 X-Trace: 649076796-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.95.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAH8aREdYal/k/2dsb2JhbACRAA Received: from 88-106-95-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.95.228]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 19:49:35 +0000 Message-ID: <150b01c82c77$a46a7630$e45f6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <14e501c82c74$5c5a7640$e45f6a58@wgt01> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071121-0, 21/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Rapido Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Again LF, Since my last mail I have downloaded & successively run "SeqDownload", that one works perfectly !! Cheers, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: LF: Rapido > Hi All, > > A little while ago it was mentioned on here that Rapido from Rik ON7YD > could be used for automatic downloading of grabbers. I decided to give it > a try whilst running my test transmission today but although I set it for > automatic download at 5 min intervals it will only download at the moment > I click the "Start Download" button & no further downloads follow. > > Has anyone any clues ?? > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b2d472cded9c6; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d472cded9c6; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPvg-0007kp-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPvg-0007kg-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPvc-0004nh-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:15 +0000 X-Trace: 621627236-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACN7LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbACQPQ Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 20:49:06 +0000 Message-ID: <01a701c81e5a$f973e0b0$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:49:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.204 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim, LF, You will have seen my previous mail by now. The software TrueTTY has a beacon mode, the text is written into a macro button & there is a beacon period setting which I have set at 60 seconds. Another nice feature is that you can set it to listen for your call sign & if someone calls you it turns the beacon off. Not tried that so I don't know if it warns you or not. The software only has 30 days use before registration, I liked it so much that I registered it for abou Ł30. It will send FSK via the serial port so thats how I can use RTTY etc with the G0MRF Tx & my DDS VFO using the CW offset feature. Please mail LF group if you are copying my signal again. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group, > > Nil here since about 1950utc or so ... since I sent my last e-mail in > fact! > I assume Gary has shut down - the fades seemed to go in cycles of about > 5 - > 10 minutes, so I should have seen him again by now. There were some faint > traces of something on 503.0k earlier, but could have just been noise. > > BTW Gary, what are you using to repeat the transmissions (assuming it > isn't > being done manually...)? Seems quite a useful feature. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > > >> Jim , >> >> Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi >> >> Assume nothing seen on 503 ? >> >> G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-88d472af8b9f9; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:15:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d472af8b9f9; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:15:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IntYT-0004Sw-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IntYT-0004Sn-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IntYR-0006RI-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28F1DA4D9 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:14:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:13:13 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102101313.73e91de5@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:31 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > On 2 Nov 2007 at 9:00, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, > > by his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so > > he's doubly handicapped:- > > > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. > > I run around 6W output. Hello Dave, LF, Thanks for your comments and explaination of your setup and experiences. I only "butted" in after seeing your (tongue in cheek) comments about moving house to improve ground losses! I note your NoV purpose of investigating the use of 500kHz from a 'typical urban property'. 6W seems painfully low. I wonder what your estimated ERP is given what you know of the ground losses and antenna dimensions. I'd guess it sub 10mW. No wonder I can't hear you! My suggestion that more power is necessary in your situation is still valid if the purpose is to investigate anything beyond the "comfortable ground wave" zone that you're able to happily work. I understand the feeling that it's poor practice to generate power simply to heat the ground up, and that the correct approach is to reduce ground losses. As you've observed this isn't practical so I see nothing wrong with using raw TX power to push enough current into the antenna. I'd not worry about how much was being dissipated in the losses, I'd care about how much was being radiated. The more of the latter the better! My own antenna has no real "horizontal section" but has enough capacity loading added to the already necessary upper guys to improve the ERP by 6dB over the straight vertical wire. I initially thought the steeply sloping capacity wires would to some extent screen the vertical and have a negative impact on the ERP. My measurements prove that they are very, very worthwhile. I wonder if you could try that approach? If you have to guy your 32 feet vertical (I certainly have to - at 4 levels!) then using 7m of wire as the first part of the upper guys makes a tremendous difference to ERP. I can't run any horizontal top loading either. > > Since I shall be changing the antenna over to 160m before CQWW at the > end of the month, it is probably fairly academic. > Hope to see you back on 500 afterwards. I'd give some thought to the sloping capacity wire approach if more TX power is not acceptable. I'm thinking of going QRP for a while - reducing TX power enough to reduce my ERP to the 10mW range. I doubt anyone will then hear me either but it'll be interesting to find out.... Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a6d4745861b172; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:37:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d4745861b172; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:37:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCF4-0001M0-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCF3-0001Lr-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvCF0-00026j-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:36:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 13:37:04.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4E81260:01C82D0C] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C82D15.22C86260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s . ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? I was intially set at 45.45Bd... Will try again at 45 -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b39472f49e9347; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:51:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39472f49e9347; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:50:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59r-00036U-5j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59q-00036L-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:38 +0000 Received: from smtpout0132.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.132] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip59m-0003CN-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:38 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.75) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0028668B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:50:28 +0000 Message-ID: <005001c81fcb$fa2ec390$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:36:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.437 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim I would appreciate a copy 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-940473ea40f1aa; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-940473ea40f1aa; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItItg-0003pF-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:19:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItItg-0003p6-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:19:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItItd-0000Ex-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi JP, group. The beacon is now off the air. An update will be forthcoming. Joe On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---1719232024-1811568249-1196293507=:5320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-ba24741df393b0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:08:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24741df393b0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:08:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuByZ-0007TD-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuByY-0007T4-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuByV-0000EX-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507434E4C94 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFh4hDh033wX for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8E44E4C74 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c82adf$6d0707b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <005701c82a94$160a9da0$46726a58@wgt01> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hallo Gary and ALL! Yes, I am sure now, it was your RTTY signal. My locator is JN88KS. The same like QRA of my beacon OK0EMW. 73 and GL on 500kHz Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes=20 followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show=20 that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-8ec472f2a842f4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD024-8ec472f2a842f4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:36:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34F-0000Gz-7D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34E-0000Gi-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:42 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip349-0002VG-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:40 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:30 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c81fb9$3621e160$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:36:30.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[4170EE30:01C81FB9] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.252 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : tu john, 73s henny pa3cpm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg > Henny, > > Thanks for the XES report. The signal on 137.7774 is WD2XKO (W4DEX op). > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > henny van elst wrote: >> *who ?* > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b8a474b516515c; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD074-b8a474b516515c; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwn1S-0002pj-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwn1R-0002pa-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:49 +0000 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwn1P-0005Uc-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:49 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.bfc.249e9f01 (29678) for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bfc.249e9f01.347cab2f_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? --part1_bfc.249e9f01.347cab2f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1196118318" -------------------------------1196118318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 756 PRO Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1196118318 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip=20 PA0RDT
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: X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Peter, Graham & LF, Thanks to Peter you have just got an answer to the problem, I will stay on 23 Hz. Cheers Peter. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr Młynarski" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > Graham wrote: > >>> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii >>> ... >> >> >> G .. >> > Hi Graham > MMTTY > go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz > 73, peter, sq7mpj > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b99473b1a993c1; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99473b1a993c1; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsKa9-0004Gw-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsKa8-0004Gn-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:12 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsKa5-00035c-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:12 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAEFt4Qt027474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:55:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <002601c826d6$b7047a80$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:54:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNIQUE_WORDS=1.336 Subject: LF: Re: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, This station has also been logged on November 11 by Kary Syrjanen from Finland. Most likely a NDB. Did you write up the cycle time? 73, Roelof, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 514 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b62472caa3f2d2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b62472caa3f2d2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQA-0004vT-AM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQ9-0004vK-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMQ5-0003md-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:29 +0000 X-Trace: 641436976-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAGZGLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 17:04:19 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:04:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.205 Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Graham, LF, Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' > > 503 Khz cent freq . > > Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K > > Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per qsb > cycle ? > > G.. > > Nb , connect is enabled . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9da47310cb92a6; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:54:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da47310cb92a6; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:54:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZB8-0001TU-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZB7-0001TL-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:58 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZB3-0000oa-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:57 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter03.comcast.net ([204.127.197.113]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071107005336m11004ibb0e>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 00:53:46 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter03.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:34 +0000 Message-Id: <110720070053.867.47310C8E0005EAED0000036322007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Nicolas, Thank you very much for the report and capture! Your Miniwhip is working very well. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: F4DTL@aol.com > Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna > (miniwhip PA0RDT) > No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. > > Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX: IC 7400 > Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b39472f7fff2b2; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39472f7fff2b2; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8lJ-0007hD-EY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8lJ-0007h4-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:33 +0000 Received: from web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.219]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8lI-0002Bs-Mx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 42483 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 20:41:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I5AnC19sbr35z45WSr2Mvg6MoyNhI2fOX7Yvq9hgfGglvua4TzrET4BPOHhvQDC4A/awNiorYOSXcDNA9HztOdTfXbdJSOwKCnV9B69+gD610VZkH5KMPdRmf9zWm8KCR6248QLZdsSRvimOEyktIR2QFD8klRixLZPMeadzhU8=; X-YMail-OSG: k1bKX0YVM1l9HkhG2LUDU6kon7zXZaWqQvtx8kDIVKk_nmJzXit4xqTtAhxFU7.AQMSN_T69XTXTr7nqy4nrZqJoz3aGxiksWPxrZbZf9LrNhHnIVAaCSCFGFAQ- Received: from [78.144.227.245] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:26 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:41:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re. LF QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John I was out of the house for your earlier tests but I have been hearing you from 2000z to now 2040z with some QSB from 339 to 449. Can see/read you on the waterfall but bursts of static spoiling the display. Will continue to monitor until 2100 but then have to go QRT. cheers Mike G3GMS -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 05 November 2007 20:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. Cheers, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi john, LF, > > Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-10f4736122f1c0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:19:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC31-10f4736122f1c0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:18:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwmY-0005Sl-5D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwmX-0005Sc-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:17 +0000 Received: from iasius.site5.com ([216.118.97.235]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwmT-0004aa-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:17 +0000 Received: from [62.249.237.217] (helo=daddave) by iasius.site5.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwmQ-0001UI-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:18:11 -0500 From: "Michael Probert" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:21:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Thread-Index: Acgjr6QiWv93jD+QQ6ubx4tPNpucaAAJsqgw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iasius.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ynysdawelcottages.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.292 Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary, Have been listening to your test on and off for several hours. Signals varying between S8 and down to noise with very slow QSB. I have certainly not heard you so strong before so all your hard work on the antenna has paid off. 73 Mike GW4HXO. __________________________________________________________ Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp __________ NOD32 2651 (20071110) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b904740a06f2b5; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b904740a06f2b5; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itqk3-0004I2-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itqk3-0004Ht-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itqjz-0005Al-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 X-Trace: 636611046-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAFovQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 20:27:23 +0000 Message-ID: <017101c82a21$6d4b2df0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ 503.600 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + LF, I am making CQ calls & looking for 2 way QSO's, I will be using the same RTTY settings ie. RTTY, 23 Hz, 22 bd, 503.600 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-add472b8ec0d6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add472b8ec0d6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3Xh-0006tK-NR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3Xg-0006tB-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3Xd-0007QP-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A8EE01C0008E for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:54:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 80D081C00089 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:54:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102205451527.80D081C00089@mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c81d92$a5ea5e10$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev><005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> <20071102195242.1f285887@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:54:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.098 Subject: LF: rtty /psk 502 / 503 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Printed 75 % of Chrisis call list , on 502 rtty , called but no reply running psk31 beacon on 503 , (cent freq) looking , full band , for call's in gaps Graham . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB31-69a472f6ccc1a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB68-69a472f6ccc1a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:19:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7TW-0005uu-1e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7TV-0005ul-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:05 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7TS-0003vH-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 87654 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 19:02:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gCx8UKIN+l+GhybHQoXLpktpK1DOfa0qy0J4k8mbOlL0f+q6RONuArhHFyGfSd0D9+byoc1WNp8ITXkrXec+hRHu5z/+6On6Irs7wfXvtj+oDqZ39ogt43+cP7W5GOiCO+u0UshrunfCYQt/X02rwWXvRNQUeWQSJx+c7azr0dg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.46.209 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 19:02:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tZO2focVM1mPgtIy3AvZsT_8Nroy9fsP3Ac9hyAQkNSjQOxLiVAl.GE0C8rephq4B.19S.xalw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:00:40 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.128 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear John, LF Group, Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the spectrogram display. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > Hello John, > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > Chris > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > Cheers, > > John > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a2f473ff5ce171; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG091-a2f473ff5ce171; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfN7-00017d-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfN6-00017U-Jh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItfN2-0002Bg-Tp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3AC3EA0E7 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C743EA0E4 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473FF57E.6030104@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:10 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.140 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA.....................!?@$=A3=A7#~<> !... The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-ae547378844385; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB093-ae547378844385; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLhB-0003Ve-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLhA-0003VV-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLh5-000702-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6F53EA0D3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCCC3EA0CB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4737881A.4060908@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WAOUH is a cry of admiration ! your signal is very extremely still this =20 evening , Warren 73 J-P f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Jeff, > > What means WAOUH ? > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "F6CWN" > =20 >> WAOUH! >> >> 73: Jeff (F6CWN) >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM >> Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! >> >> >> Hello LF , >> >> Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) >> >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht >> >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-10547458a683cc; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:56:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC21-10547458a683cc; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCWP-0001Un-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCWO-0001Ue-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:12 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvCWK-0003Xj-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:12 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CD03E198E8 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [195.37.145.12] by freemailng6503.web.de with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:00 +0100 Message-Id: <479510729@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: di2am@web.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1/w2qDbMGvxAliCndNP/hyB/utmMuzjaLRtlP8Ci0k7xSS7z VB4IyTQfx0mbUyVWh24GmhV0wTyXM6nThrogHJv5k1Dk6vNUBE= X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-------------1195739703449046093" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=-------------1195739703449046093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, the use of QSW by Mal was correct. The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in the fishery fleet in the sence: "Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?" or affirmativ "Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties". E.g.: There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him by vhf if necessary. 73 Joerg, DL3NRV --=-------------1195739703449046093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,

the use of QSW by Mal was correct.

The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in the fishery fleet in the sence:

"Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?"

or affirmativ

"Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties".

E.g.:

There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him by vhf if necessary.

73

  &nb sp;  Joerg, DL3NRV

 

 

--=-------------1195739703449046093-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1ca473a5779264; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:03:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC38-1ca473a5779264; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:03:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7a8-00023U-5z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7a5-00023L-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0147.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.147] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is7a2-0005VH-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0032388B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:08 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,da11d9b929a7bac8,b7448a69e2dea490,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1533:1534:1536:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3876:3877:5007:6114:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m1-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.1]) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <001301c82662$60c1e730$01e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:01:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 500 WD2XSH/17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Good condx early this morning. Heard on 505.63 khz at 0139z de WD2XSH/171717 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ad8472e41c03ce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:03:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad8472e41c03ce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:03:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IonZ8-0005vF-H9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IonZ7-0005v6-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:33 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IonZ4-0006ml-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:33 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.10] (helo=0.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IonZ3-0000ny-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:29 +0100 Received: from f054164248.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.164.248]:1235 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 0.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IonZ3-0003pt-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <472E41B4.8010602@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, > > Are there any circuits available for this type of transverter please ? > Unfortunately no... only a few photos, since I never made a complete drawing. I built the transverter stage-by-stage, and made a few handwritten notes here and there. A few photos are here: http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/lf_trans.html (quite outdated; the preselector has been replaced with a 4-pole version since then). The discrete Schottky ring mixer (using 4 matched BAT42's or similar) is driven with some ten milliwatts from the 10 MHz OCXO, but an IE500 or similar would be easier. The same mixer is used for RX and TX. Besides that, there is an HF VOX for the RX/TX switching, driver, and final with four MOSFETs running at 12 Volts DC. But today, I'd use a higher voltage for the final, since 24- or even 48 V SMPSU are easy to find these days (even without built-in LF QRM generator ;-) 73, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC33-1c94739d5fc173; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC37-1c94739d5fc173; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IryyS-0000mM-7D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IryyR-0000mB-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IryyN-0000sP-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D96EB7000098 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (unknown [193.249.232.218]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2876370000AE for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071113165040165.2876370000AE@mwinf2f21.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:49 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or EIRP?=20 What are the limits in the US, Sweden and Germany please (and anywhere else=20= that has an amateur/experimenter allocation in this part of the spectrum)? =20= And are they transmitter output, ERP or EIRP? 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-88b473b051b2b6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:24:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b473b051b2b6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:24:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsJA6-00042X-Iu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsJA5-00042O-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.12] helo=smtpout08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsJA1-0002Db-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 11135 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 14:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2007 14:23:44 -0000 Message-ID: <473B04FD.1070709@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:23:57 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, > Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending > "WC WC" ? Possibly a distress call from someone with a full bladder? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b3e47315661221; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:08:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e47315661221; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:08:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipe4w-0002VO-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipe4w-0002VF-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipe4s-0003jD-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W18 ([207.46.11.181]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:07:43 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:07:43 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 06:07:43.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[8298B1D0:01C82104] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.742,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_" Subject: RE: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi - Miniwhip - not that this is an exacting science I have a length of six= inches as an optimum in urban location with no large MW stations nearby -we= ll more than 50 miles away - I used DCF39 as a marker and MDS on Argo dot 60= with differing lengths of "whip/board" whilst in Shanghai, but the differen= ce from the designed couple of inches to 6 inches was just, just discernible= maybe less than 1dB. As people say just taping/coupling in the capacitance=20= and above a certain value it shouldnt make any odds. =20 On some of my eprobes and I have three or four at times in operation here, =20= I have a BNC on top of my baby bottle so can add and subtract lengths - impr= ovements do exist when using it on HF/500Khz with a longer length here in si= ngapore, but geography, local signals and oddles of other variables makes th= is kind of plug and see. The improvements are probably because the component= s are designed for VLF/LF and get kinda reactive as you go HF and I would pe= rhaps optimize the coupling caps/power iso values if I was going for a dedic= ated HF unit. As it is,the probe works within a 2dB ( or less) of a quarter=20= wave vertical at 10Mhz, and certainly less of a target/static or otherswise. =20 I couldnt have a "longer length" probe in my new home in Alaska due to the p= lethera of v/m station on 530KHz area making a mess - I already know its no= t going to be my solution there when I finally put down, but here its fine. =20 Ill be looking stateside again tonight on 137 and 500 for Eu at your dusk. T= hats if these @#$#@ storms will stop. Sun is shining for the moment... =20 Interestingly enough and tempting fate Im still on my first FETS on all the=20= probes but I really do bond everything pretty well so maybe thats been the s= aving grace. =20 Laurence 9V1 LF From: GandalfG8@aol.comDate: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 -0500To: rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.orgSubject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol.com=20= writes: Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to no m= ore than 5 or 6 centimetres..... and that's aside from any perverse observations:-) _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0G= et it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL100626= 971033=3D --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi - Miniwhip -  not that this is an exacting science I have a length o= f six inches as an optimum in urban location with no large MW stations nearb= y -well more than 50 miles away - I used DCF39 as a marker and MDS on A= rgo dot 60 with differing lengths of "whip/board" whilst in Shanghai, but th= e difference from the designed couple of inches to 6 inches was just, just d= iscernible maybe less than 1dB. As people say just taping/coupling in t= he capacitance and above a certain value it shouldnt make any odds.
 
On some of my eprobes and I have three or four at times in operation he= re,  I have a BNC on top of my baby bottle so can add and subtract= lengths - improvements do exist when using it on HF/500Khz with a longer le= ngth here in singapore, but geography, local signals and oddles of other var= iables makes this kind of plug and see. The improvements are probably becaus= e the components are designed for VLF/LF and get kinda reactive as you go HF= and I would perhaps optimize the coupling caps/power iso values if I was go= ing for a dedicated HF unit. As it is,the probe works within a 2dB ( or less= ) of a quarter wave vertical at 10Mhz, and certainly less of a target/s= tatic or otherswise.
 
I couldnt have a "longer length" probe in my new home in Alaska due to the p= lethera of v/m station on 530KHz area making a mess  - I already know i= ts not going to be my solution there when I finally put down, but here its f= ine.
 
Ill be looking stateside again tonight on 137 and 500 for Eu at your dusk. T= hats if these @#$#@ storms will stop. Sun is shining for the moment...
 
Interestingly enough and tempting fate Im still on my first FETS on all the=20= probes but I really do bond everything pretty well so maybe thats been the s= aving grace.
 
Laurence 9V1 LF


From: GandalfG8@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 -0500
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna
=
In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol= .com writes:
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to=  no more than 5 or 6 centimetres.....
and that's aside from any perverse observations:-)

Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 toget= her at last. Get it now! =3D --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-9fa47487fec260; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:48:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa47487fec260; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:47:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw0xS-00061h-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw0xR-00061Y-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000 Received: from smtpout0191.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.191] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iw0xN-00088y-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0046CCA8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:45:54 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,3224fecd1d004fe4,9df91d4d66655af4,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1536:1560:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3690:3865:3867:3868:3870:3871:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82ed2$a0a0c600$58e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:05:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VK3NU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n VK3NU nw calling CQ on 3533 khz. I wonder if he is QSX on 500 khz !!!!!!!!!!!!! He seems to be in the contest and is working EU stns. About 339 on cw 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9dc472f014b231; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:41:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc472f014b231; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:41:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0K8-0005yU-R0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0K8-0005yL-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0K4-0003rx-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.101) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0027F331 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:40:23 +0000 Message-ID: <007201c81fa0$a9154130$65ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:36:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E > In my 700 Watt direct-from mains transmitter > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/137tx.pdf > efficiency came out somewhere between 80 to 90%. As Jim says, its > difficult to measure accurately At one point, due to measurement > errors, the calculated efficiency ended up at 105%. This is what I mean. Now over 100% eff any advance on this figure!!! > > Andy G4JNT > > > > On 04/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > > > > > > Hi all > > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. > > Has > > > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is > > hard > > > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or > > E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it > > is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference > > between DC input and RF output powers. > > > > In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which > > have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used > > air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule > > here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is > > probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q > > tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate > > and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, > > it might be another story... > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-aa6474402073c6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB014-aa6474402073c6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOc-00049D-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOc-000494-03 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumOX-00047I-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:25 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D003ECF6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:11 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,bfca19d0f1fa3745,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2828:2892:3027:3318:3354:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3873:3874:4250:4434:5007:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for correct operation. Things have moved on to class F and G but info is sparse maybe you have details. Ever thought about your own COMIC for some short stories and DX experiences. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > There has been very little response from anyone else about class > > E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of > > amplifier, or do not use them. > > > Er....have I missed something...? > > I seem to remember several people responded when you asked the > same question on Nov 4th. There were plenty of answers to your query > about efficiency etc. with a few measured values from real amplifiers > and some discussion of the theory and practice of switching PAs. > > I understood from the level of response that several people (myself > included) were using Class-E amps. Perhaps this time round they have > decided not to repeat their answers. > > I think that most people, despite your snide implication, have in fact > "heard about this type of amplifier" and possibly know enough about > them not to need to go over the same ground every few weeks for your > entertainment. > > > Since you've furnished us with some scant information about your own > Class-E experiments perhaps you'd like to enlighten us to the actual > performance figures, the hard facts that that you've tried to solicit > from others? > > > > DC supply volts/current? > > Output power? > > Efficiency? > > Harmonic and spurious emissions? > > Temeprature rise of the heatsink after 10 hours key down at full power? > > > Enquiring minds would like to know.... > > John > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9424740530328d; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:58:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF018-9424740530328d; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:58:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlb1-0002R6-UO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlb1-0002Qs-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itlaz-0001NM-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F582DA4D6; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:57:32 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk Message-ID: <20071118145732.5bcf631b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. 100% copy:- RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 2007-NOV-18 14:54 UTC TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY Nice! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1547370e2716; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:14:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1547370e2716; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:14:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDZL-0001te-PO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDZL-0001tV-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDZG-0008ID-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111141315m1300bq1pqe>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:15 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:14 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:14 +0000 Message-Id: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon XYW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Joe, Jean-Pierre, Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for the past month or so. Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to the East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello Joe, > Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place > is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon > on 777.05 with “XYW” like callsign . My grabber has the > open arms to receive VO1NA ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > Joe Craig a écrit : > > Thank-you JP for watching. > > > > I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! > > > > 73 > > Joe > > > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre Méré wrote: > > > > > >> Hello Joe , > >> > >> On 189,9498 kHz : > >> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! ) > >> > >> The captures of night are at : > >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > >> > >> > >> 73 J-P f1afj > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-96f4744363327f; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:44:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF075-96f4744363327f; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:44:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuprM-0005Ho-2P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuprL-0005Hf-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +0000 Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.56]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuprH-00087p-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FRcH1Y0040xGWP80500W00; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FRij1Y00B2Uxt080300000; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=RPDut8cvebACSUp7ofQA:9 a=9qPEGJf_iFwrrZxXhkwEN2h0B3AA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <8BFF34A5FBA24285AF087FB88954254B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:42:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thank you Jean-Pierre! Perhaps Alan G3NYK can ellaborate on the band conditions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9a9473b438155; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:50:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a9473b438155; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNJe-0004aL-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNJd-0004aC-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:21 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsNJY-0003RI-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:21 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19EDA4D9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:09 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071114185009.46aa8ba2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 ". Roman" wrote: > Hello John! > May be it was a G3WCB? >=20 > Find by a google: > 21/22 Sep > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm >=20 Hi Roman & LF Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both frequencies in perect sync! It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in anywhere I can find. It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up again. Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC23-1bf472996ad301; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:04:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf472996ad301; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:04:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InVyU-0007nK-TE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InVyU-0007nB-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InVyQ-0000bE-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374D3EA110 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:04:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B963EA10C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:04:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4729968B.9070306@online.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:04:11 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137 kHz : WD2XGJ On 189 kHz : Nil The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b29473c50b65e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:59:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b29473c50b65e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:59:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsfEI-0007ye-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsfEH-0007yV-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:01 +0000 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsfEC-0004sk-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9061385E4 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:57:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E810A1385C3 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A39F3862; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73477F3864 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:20 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071115135659.73477F3864@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_77114875==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_77114875==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:58 15/11/2007, you wrote: >http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm Andy, The value for the speed of light must be raised. Yes, because increasing the speed ten times would - let us get rid the annoying time delay in EME QSO's - reduce the radioactive waste volume in nuclear power plants by 99% No, because increasing the speed of light to 3x10exp10 m/s would - increase the wavelength at any given frequency by a factor 100 (and thus we would need 100 times larger antennas) Of course this last can be compensated by your other suggestion to lower the impedance of free space. Thermal noise will be reduced in stages over several years. Simplest way to do this is by reducing the Boltzmann constant. Instead of making it variable I would just make it 0 to get rid of any thermal noise. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_77114875==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 12:58 15/11/2007, you wrote:
http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm

Andy,

The value for the speed of light must be raised.
Yes, because increasing the speed ten times would
- let us get rid the annoying time delay in EME QSO's
- reduce the radioactive waste volume in nuclear power plants by 99%
No, because increasing the speed of light to 3x10exp10 m/s would
- increase the wavelength at any given frequency by a factor 100 (and thus we would need 100 times larger antennas)
Of course this last can be compensated by your other suggestion to lower the impedance of free space.

Thermal noise will be reduced in stages over several years.
Simplest way to do this is by reducing the Boltzmann constant. Instead of making it variable I would just make it 0 to get rid of any thermal noise.

73, Rik ON7YD

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--=====================_77114875==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ab3472caa421e2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab3472caa421e2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQi-0004vq-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQi-0004vh-C8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMQd-0003mq-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B34B91C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:04:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 853741C00084 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:04:53 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103170453545.853741C00084@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:05:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the option , only 200/170 hz ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > LF, > > I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon > so MultiPSK users can decode. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-b06473d428913e; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:11:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b06473d428913e; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:11:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsvL1-0001Qn-Oe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsvL1-0001Qe-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsvKy-00032q-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 39416 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 07:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 07:09:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: l4A5VJYVM1llN1qjZHy4ZPJWhevn4Sqf8XbMcexeWiw34zdxStDc5k7XwPavQlm45zF2fKImTbTn0PoYXzDUTdLpnj9HUSfKbibLDHt_5GFKhv0P From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:09:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <473D423F.9849.23BD2B@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev>, <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.650 Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 15 Nov 2007 at 22:11, Chris McCarthy wrote: > Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB) > > Chris, G3XVL > > On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > > > > Hi all > > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping > > all the time, and vy strong at times. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Yes, very strong here in Bracknell. Looks like some sort of commercial transmission which of course you will find on 80m. I have now taken down my 500kHz antenna and reverted it back to a Top Band vertical so will be off the band for a while. Typical, just had an email from John GM4SLV who was copying me fb on Tuesday night while he was doing tests with Finbar. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b1947508c6455; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:19:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1947508c6455; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:19:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyECN-0005VN-6t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyECM-0005VE-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyECI-0008Dt-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:02 +0000 X-Trace: 642271594-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.28.9 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKsaUEdYahwJ/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-28-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.28.9]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 22:18:47 +0000 Message-ID: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:18:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071129-0, 29/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 - XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C8339E.FA992910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C8339E.FA992910 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, XGJ captured at 2212utc. 73 Gary - 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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000262232361 References: 1650000000261689569 <236001196124904@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000262232361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <495791196463117@webmail31.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:51:57 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Mal & LF! Was out of radio at 27th of nov 2007. Don't copy GI/G in Moscow b4 on 503/502. Now I'm looking to Graham G0NBD / IO83LK on 503.2. looking CW on 503.12 and carrier on 503.25 Quiet on 503.2 in Moscow now. Try on QRSS30/QRSS3. Today on 505.1 navtex 505.06 and CW on the DI2AM freq 505.18. 27.11.07, 18:42, hamilton mal (g3kev.ham@virgin.net): > Roman. > Pse listen out on 500 khz. I am usually around 502.5 khz and there is also > acty around 501.3 khz from GI4DPE. > We both work normal CW. > 73 De Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ". Roman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon > Nothing in Moscow. > Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. > Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. > 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): > >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > > > > > >Laurence > > > >Singapore > > > > > > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com > >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 > >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon > >> > >> > >>Hello Mike > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > >> > >>RX: IC 756 PRO > >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT > >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a7d474e469a1c4; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:57:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA075-a7d474e469a1c4; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:57:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxbRY-0000xo-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxbRX-0000xf-Jh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:07 +0000 Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.102.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxbRX-00066K-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 98957 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 04:56:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JSiSDmHFXlaiO8m5vcFxTyiIJECRjKjGWRZrsF/kY1oy9yLQkZtqKcdUvoPwsnHkKy2o1SatTC3yc8ZFmoisIn+N9lDlFMPBp9fe1gMlfudQVemZByfRjYd8w0asv1RpZqO2wz1qoH7Ej2PhUZUFg59cnjRjydK10C0yQ9WklPg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 04:56:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: AdfuuWMVM1m4H5z4srvVukaY.z_BcQwMa4gUJh.lQzjgC874.ujbgOhH51dNIVzynFl69vv2AJ5ZqRS_N6Cbi2h0cUL9zmAV6lwX6XoWFtT3XAUGNQ-- Message-ID: <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:55:58 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My guess is the existing fence wire will couple a bit to the antenna wire but possibly just aid the signal. Try it with a shorter wire that you already have and see how that works. If the signals are there but weak, go with a longer wire. If all seems fare with the longer wire, go buy or however obtain the 1k' or so wire and let us know how that does. I think it will be just fine with whatever wire you use. As long as the existing fence wires don't cross over or go under any powerlines, I think your antenna wire will be very low noise. An idea for inexpensive wire would be the galvanized fence wire from the farm store. Put out a half mile of it and see what happens. It's solderable too. Mike WE0H J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > Hello LFers, > > My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts > to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a > thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out > of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about > eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? > > The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal > wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced > about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and > it appears to be galvanized steel. There is no intentional grounding of > the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch > the ground. > > Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC32-115472e2d4e49; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:36:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC37-115472e2d4e49; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:36:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IomC0-0004mc-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IomBz-0004mT-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IomBv-0006jG-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id 8k6S1Y0020ldTLk0001y00; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:20 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8kbQ1Y0041pKLLP0000000; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dfETk20xVif_qPf-SDUA:9 a=MBB6PDRx9tsm_nESBPzFGR3fCL0A:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Message-ID: <00d701c81f22$3a529960$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:35:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.305 Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I run voltage-mode class D amplifiers (400 watts) on 137 and 505 as well as PDM modulated current-mode class D AM transmitters on 160 and 75 meters (375 watt carrier). Efficiency in all cases is in the low 90s. The best I've been able to achieve on 40 meters is 90%. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: LF: CLASS D and E > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-9f7474c50cb7f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:16:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f7474c50cb7f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:15:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix41m-0005Eu-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix41l-0005El-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0191.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.191] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix41h-0008SE-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D004BC245 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,545e3004b83a3e79,f936fee2e2170569,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2828:3027:3355:3636:3743:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4184:4250:5007:6117:6119:7576:7619,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian: 0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:50:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Enrico The cct diagram is too large for the reflector, so would have to go direct. It E pa is vy inter dependent on V/W/Q etc and pse refer to Tonne s/ware V2.01 for design criteria. Mine is qrp for 500 and works fb and reliable. No smoke etc hi Pse listen for me on 502.5 khz and call me on 3533/7033 khz for a xband QSO. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO9SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enrico" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: LF: R: classs E > Hi Mal, > can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an electrical > scheme? > Thank you an Bye. > > IW4CXL > Enrico > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal > Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 > A: rsgb > Oggetto: LF: classs E > > > Hi all > I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for > true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was > almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost > perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make > a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly > better. > Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, > so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly > at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable > capicator. > I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed > through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design > voltage, but improved with a V increase. > In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very > robust. > The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, > indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the > base of the inv L. > I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E > constructors. > Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old > ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an > old marine tx. > Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b77474f4d232e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:37:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD051-b77474f4d232e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:37:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxsvI-0003Ox-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxsvI-0003Oo-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxsvF-0003Ac-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4631E7000083 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:35:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.253]) by mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2D3EB7000082 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:35:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071129233546185.2D3EB7000082@mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Carier - 502 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Just testing rfi and new AE layout , just running a carrier on 502 Khz , if any one's about , could you take a look see if you can see it ? be running till about midnight , Tnx Graham G0NBD io83lk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-aa847389b5ea7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB016-aa847389b5ea7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ire0K-0005nW-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ire0J-0005nN-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:23 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ire0G-0006ws-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 76602 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 18:16:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GVTFWhNfNCEfibFfixMnzF26ulLubHoTDsrLusTi2cCuCPSfjg67ZbQT5bv4yF6aWegDRm84vAOt280y3kZ7AxFP/eyd/8ottXWb41DF67871wPHX9Xn0c9tPgUxVFYvdkptFIDsxES5/Ja5gyTXYeLPM6Roca/tkX/rnBNy7Tg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.15.227 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 18:16:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TGtji4UVM1nk5bd.f9kkoDtK2GyxYbaLrPmjD1jDj2ddXQfLtmr1C8x4uPnkwtfvFbwXph_qgg-- Message-ID: <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:16:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and shifts "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter since then, but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off > the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make > CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which > makes QRSS harder. > > Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to > 30s slow) : > > 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) > 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' > 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' > > Very noisy overnight. > > Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. > Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know > if this frequency causes anyone a problem. > > de Mike, G3XDV > ============ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9c9473061e6fb; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:45:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME075-9c9473061e6fb; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:45:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpNnJ-0007no-50 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpNnI-0007nf-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:36 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpNnE-0001k6-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:36 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter20.comcast.net ([204.127.197.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071106124403m1200gpkj0e>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:44:03 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter20.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:01 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:01 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071244.10956.473061910008E25A00002ACC22069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : XKO, XGJ , XES and XNS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Nicolas F4DTL, Markus, and Henny for the reports and captures of WD2XGJ! Good band conditions are back! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF , > > Last night i copy : > > WD2XKO > WD2XGJ ( Verry good signal ) > WD2XES > WD2XNS > > Captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-ee47317d91209; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:56:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB58-ee47317d91209; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:55:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpghF-0003TG-4C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpghE-0003T6-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpghB-0004Mk-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ED43EA0BC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:55:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA453EA0B7 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:55:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47317D84.2020202@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:55:32 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB41-c2472c915632e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:18:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB14-c2472c915632e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:18:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKlY-0003rL-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKlX-0003rC-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:27 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoKlU-0003iQ-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:27 +0000 X-Trace: 621546937-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAwuLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 15:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 15:17:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All, By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz shift. Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. Reports welcome. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a74473c439a5f; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:03:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA064-a74473c439a5f; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:03:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IseMq-0007oP-Ka for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IseMq-0007oG-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IseMm-0001fc-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B900767676 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:02:21 +0100 Message-ID: <473C435C.8020903@telia.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:02:20 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Maybe, but please don't reduce it too much! See: http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19870601 73 Johan SM6LKM uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: > gravitation has to be decreased From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1c472dd1ad5b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c472dd1ad5b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iog6N-00006b-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iog6M-00006S-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:22 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iog6J-0001wy-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:22 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Pd3waIXF7mFboaXGLmbdAQ4cDe131byqsE2fVrfl/Dj1SAnYAZDVyhXgcsYOHEIf; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.41.23.54] (helo=kd4wov7) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Iog6C-00008m-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:12 -0500 From: "kd4wov" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <472DCF27.5020708@att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b01010ba3742ec22bac281d236a16b6740350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Wow, where is the best place to get info on the D and E class amps? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 08:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E 86% efficiency at 400 watts out with GŘMRF amp and MŘBMU mod is what I get. W4DEX, WD2XKO hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.133]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-1744742abb2214; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:41:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB12-1744742abb2214; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPb8-0000Uh-Cp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPb7-0000UX-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPb1-0007m7-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E93EA0DE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15073EA0B4 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4742AB98.3060209@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:40 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-1cc472f60f761; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:38:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC310-1cc472f60f761; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:29:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6hB-00057F-BP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:29:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6hA-000576-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello John, at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 Chris G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) On 05/11/2007, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > Hello LF, > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) > for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really > heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can > normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon > using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. > > > > Cheers, > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > ------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello John,
at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9
Chris
G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB)



On 05/11/2007, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV < gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Hello LF,

I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP)
for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really
heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can
normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB

I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon
using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power.



Cheers,

John

--
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB41-d8473ecbb116d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:08:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB36-d8473ecbb116d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:08:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItLXA-0004VA-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItLXA-0004V1-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItLX6-000206-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAHB7kOX030579 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:46 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAHB7jbL006566 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:45 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAHB7jrk006436; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:45 -0330 (NST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:44 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <473EA3F3.90605@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <473EA3F3.90605@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Greetings J-P, The beacon was switched off last night at 0400 utc. Heavy winds were causing the wire to short to the tower. 73 Joe On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC14-1c64738ee561cc; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:23:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC34-1c64738ee561cc; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjXf-0006cp-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjXf-0006cg-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81] helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjXc-0005Fm-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IrjXH-0007wb-04; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:21:47 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (EXp55OZHohNH0hZi3b-aSnwOejhFXKXYAXH2NZmTrQ8g9oyFzYeSD7r2VCgmDOIw2P@[217.95.78.29]) by fwd27.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IrjX9-1xKPuS0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:21:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 13 Nov 2007 00:21 GMT Message-ID: <1IrjX9-1xKPuS0@fwd27.t-online.de> X-ID: EXp55OZHohNH0hZi3b-aSnwOejhFXKXYAXH2NZmTrQ8g9oyFzYeSD7r2VCgmDOIw2P X-TOI-MSGID: 0f610ce0-1379-4756-b5b7-d9df0df8e3e6 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: G3LDO xband Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The contact started at 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and told him I would wait. Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator which he sent to F2JB. After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and became almost unreadible. Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for further attempts on the 500 kHz band. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-93f47366d61ae; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:48:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f47366d61ae; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:48:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir2rK-00075b-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir2rK-00075S-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir2rG-0005pq-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4891EF8BB0 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id UN-hmB4koc8h for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi68.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.73]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BF121EF8BA4 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:47:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.418 Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is so > pathetically wimpy now If you can't hear it tomorrow then it must not be on. If it made it back this far, then it should have a substantial signal back your way as well. It may indeed have just returned. If you listened today for it and it is not there, than it likely is not on the air. What I may have heard was an in-sync keying of HIN and GEY coming out as ING...it would be surprising for a 25 watter to make it back this far but conditions have been exceptional the past few nights. Please let me know what you hear Steve / Many thanks. Steve / VE7SL I can't hear it at 60 miles away (to > be fair there are a couple like that, IUB 404 and DYL 237 > spring to mind, but they're both very sad creatures), it > wasn't to be found when I did a daylight sweep from a nearby > quiet site testing out a mobile setup a couple of weeks ago. > > Will get back to you. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > > > Steve McDonald wrote: > > Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new > > location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other > > east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to > > check 275's USB and see if it really is back. > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > > >> Hi Steve, > >> > >> ING 275 > >> > >> It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at > >> one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > >> http://www.w3eee.com > >> > >> Steve McDonald wrote: > >>> I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that > > could > >>> give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > >>> on-the-air. > >>> > >>> Steve / VE7SL > >>> > >>> Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9db472cd3731f9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:01:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME097-9db472cd3731f9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPAj-00072l-N7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPAj-00072c-BF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPAe-0000Fo-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C061E1C0008C for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:00:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 91A4A1C0008A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:00:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103200014596.91A4A1C0008A@mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005801c81e54$30a624a0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:00:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this reflector, remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic radio , We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may be ? just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the CIO ... old habits die hard ... G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-92c472e5cd0111; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:59:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c472e5cd0111; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:59:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IopM7-00078B-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IopM6-000782-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:14 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IopM4-0003nM-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEB4E4A77 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4otLPuBVbr5u for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC374E450A for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:37 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 00:57:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] Dots_G4WGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hallo Gary! Really, you are right, those dots are on the John=B4s grabber! There are something new on the band. Thanks for your notice. The weather is awful, it=B4s raining cats and dogs. Nothink good for listening on 500kHz. 73 and GN! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Lubos, Look at John's GM4SLV grabber, I can see the dots on there. http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm 73 - Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: LF: [500] Dots again > Hallo ALL! > I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal > is on the band again. > Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two > frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. > Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? > > Lubos, OK2BVG > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-91847317171da; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:04:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91847317171da; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:04:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpfsA-0002m2-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpfsA-0002lt-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipfs8-0003mG-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F48DA537 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:02:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:02:41 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071107080241.2c293822@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GM4SLV_this_morn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:31:35 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > GM, John and ALL! > I captured your signal this morning.It was audible 329 with long QSB. > I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal > repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT. Thanks for another report Lubos, I don't think conditions were very good last night, as you've had better reception from me in the past? > What ERP did you use this morn? 100mW ERP of course ;-) =20 Best 73,=20 --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a6a473613d8b9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a473613d8b9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqwtp-0005YZ-NV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqwtp-0005YQ-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqwtm-0004cu-FJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 X-Trace: 627153790-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAOKiNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 20:25:27 +0000 Message-ID: <00c501c823d7$d4eb2460$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.199 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Mike, LF, Thanks for your comments, it is very gratifying when something actually shows for the hours put into the work. Next step will be to raise the mast to its usual height (top load at 12 metres) soon & test again. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Probert" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: LF: RE: Antenna upgrade etc > Hello Gary, > Have been listening to your test on and off for several hours. Signals > varying between S8 and down to noise with very slow QSB. I have certainly > not heard you so strong before so all your hard work on the antenna has > paid > off. > > 73 > > Mike GW4HXO. > __________________________________________________________ > > > Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high > rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a > similar > > performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 > meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2651 (20071110) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-193472d0ceb37c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:06:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB43-193472d0ceb37c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:06:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoSzh-0000um-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoSzh-0000ud-AK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoSzb-0005r4-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071104000514m1300bsc79e>; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:05:24 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:13 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "henny van elst" Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:13 +0000 Message-Id: <110420070005.27290.472D0CB90000CA8500006A9A22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0211.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Hartmut, Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the reports and captures! WD2XGJ is QRT due to storms. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > trace of xgj > henny pa3cpm 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-96e472efd9a20; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:25:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e472efd9a20; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:25:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip04f-0005PQ-Gj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip04f-0005PH-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip04c-0004eH-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 X-Trace: 622117010-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAOSLLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 11:24:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00a201c81f9e$79a501d0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <7.0.1.0.1.20071105130741.019c8570@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:24:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, Thank you to Kevin ZL4MD & Wolf DL4YHF for their comments on this subject. Any further mails from others re the above will be greatly appreciated. Thanks & 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-aea472f7b8223; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:23:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea472f7b8223; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:22:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8SF-0007BV-5z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8SE-0007BM-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:50 +0000 Received: from spikey-mike.demon.co.uk ([80.176.248.203] helo=mail.spikey-mike.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8SB-0003Oh-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:50 +0000 Received: from ws1.spikey-mike.com ([10.0.0.1] helo=ws1) by mail.spikey-mike.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ip8Rk-0007qP-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:20 +0000 From: "Mike Hawkshaw" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com><20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local><01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:21:18 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c81fe9$6c216cb0$0100000a@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acgf5vcuaLMuyLylSyKq+BVUVDcseQAABHkg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Karma: -848: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C81FE9.6C23B6A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C81FE9.6C23B6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, LF. I left speclab running on a very long display, and there is just a faint glimmer of a trace appearing a 19:32. From about 20:00 it is much more obvious at about 10 dB above my noise floor and is an audible copyable signal. Attached a screen grab edited to show the timing alongside the trace. I'll send a full grab direct. Cheers, Mike G7AQA, IO93DT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 05 November 2007 20:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. 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X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2f472d3d8cb7; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:33:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG091-a2f472d3d8cb7; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:33:34 -0400 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF14E5BC6 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:37:03 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:32:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81e93$46efde10$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Unknown signal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81E9B.A8B44610" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81E9B.A8B44610 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I captured an unknown signal for me: Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. Interesting! Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I captured an unknown signal for me:

Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47= sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz.

Interesting!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Some listening reports 500 kHz from JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, this evening of 31. October 2007 I have heard somewhat earlier into the band to see how potential xband signals would develop at my QTH JN68GN in eastern Bavaria (at 48,5 degrees latitude): 21.55 UTC heard GM4SLV working F6C?I on 502,1 kHz (from other sources I guess it had been F6CNI) 21.59 UTC heard G3UNT working GI3PDN on 502,7 kHz Around 23.05 UTC heard GI3PDN beaconing on 501,6 kHz All signals rather weak, callsigns had to be heard repeatedly to be sure, single letters were missed quite often. Therefore xband qsos would be rather tough. I hope condx will improve in November. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-95e472ae47f3c8; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:49:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF054-95e472ae47f3c8; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:49:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InsBy-0003v3-QG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InsBy-0003uu-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InsBv-0005Av-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F03EA0E6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1C3EA0E4 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ and WD2XES On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-ba2472f9f46109; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:55:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba2472f9f46109; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:55:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAq9-0001w2-Mm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAq9-0001vt-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAq5-0005Kn-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105225409m15009ut7ke>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Markus Vester" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 Message-Id: <110520072254.28809.472F9F100004E4200000708922007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ, Holmes X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Markus, Thank you very much for the nice early capture of XGJ! Unfortunately clouds and an approaching storm mean no viewing of "Holmes" here. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Vester" > Hi Warren & LF, > > on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C > traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. > > off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this > evening - really magnificent in binoculars! > > Best wishes to all > Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b944745aa9d30e; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:13:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD086-b944745aa9d30e; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:13:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEfF-0002A0-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEfF-00029r-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvEfC-00045N-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0AEB07000089 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.170]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A2734700008D for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:12:19 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071122161219665.A2734700008D@mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002601c82d22$76ede7e0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <479510729@web.de> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .. As we seem to have a nautical flavour to the exchange, perhaps we ha= ve a descendant of Mr Edward Teach in our midst, who although a fine seaman= did bend the rules slightly . to quote >> To avoid any ambiguity xband work= ing 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz <<<=20 505.5 ? web link reveals all=20 =20 http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/famous-pirates.htm =20 G ..=20 ---- Original Message -----=20 From: di2am@web.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Hi all, the use of QSW by Mal was correct. The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in= the fishery fleet in the sence: "Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?" or affirmativ "Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties"= . E.g.:=20 There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-c= ontact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do,=20= for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other= r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand list= ening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him b= y vhf if necessary. 73 &nb sp; Joerg, DL3NRV ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.3/1144 - Release Date: 11/21/200= 7 16:28 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

 ..  As we seem to&n= bsp;=20 have a nautical flavour to the exchange, perhaps we have a descendant of&n= bsp;=20 Mr Edward Teach in our midst, who although a fine seaman did bend the rule= s=20 slightly … to quote >> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 50= 0/HF. I=20 will use the HF freqs at
times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz=20 <<< 

 

 505.5 ? web link reveals all=20

 

http://www.= elizabethan-era.org.uk/famous-pirates.htm

 

G ..

 
 
---- Original Message -----
di2am@web.de
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1= :55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV

Hi all,

the use of QSW by Mal was correct.

The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it= in=20 the fishery fleet in the sence:

"Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your=20 duties?"

or affirmativ

"Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch=20 duties".

E.g.:

There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable=20 vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job=20= to=20 do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an= =20 other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will sta= nd=20 listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform= him=20 by vhf if necessary.

73

  &nb sp;  Joerg, DL3NRV

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free=20 Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.3/1144 - Release Da= te:=20 11/21/2007 16:28
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a8d4736f63a29d; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:32:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4736f63a29d; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:31:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrByT-0001TW-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrByT-0001TN-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:37 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrByO-0003vH-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCC63EA0AD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3293EA0EC for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736F623.3070501@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:31 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.142 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon on 777.05 with =93XYW=94 like callsign . My grabber has the open arms to receive VO1NA ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you JP for watching. > > I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! > > 73 > Joe > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> Hello Joe , >> >> On 189,9498 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything= ! ) >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ >> >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-da472caabc28e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:10:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB38-da472caabc28e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:07:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMSe-00053E-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMSd-000534-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMSa-0001Jf-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BF0871C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:06:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 88BED1C00082 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:06:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103170654560.88BED1C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002301c81e3b$f98f9720$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> <472C9EFB.4060206@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:07:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I think mmtty is 'rtty' only , ? G .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > Graham wrote: > >>> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii=20 >>> ... >> >> >> G .. >> > Hi Graham > MMTTY > go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz > 73, peter, sq7mpj > > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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--part1_d47.17eb9106.345b9ee9_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-88b472cad043de; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:16:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b472cad043de; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:16:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMbx-0005FU-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMbw-0005FL-Uz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMbt-0005eE-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:40 +0000 X-Trace: 621578583-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACZKLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 17:16:02 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:16:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Graham, & All at LF, I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no other decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift when I see this message come through on the LF group mail. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the > option , only 200/170 hz ? > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> LF, >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-f0473f67a4e6; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:14:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB510-f0473f67a4e6; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:13:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVv8-0006VQ-Cx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVv7-0006VH-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:46 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVv5-0006An-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:45 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE2DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:35 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117221335.4a40e88f@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > Yes, just sussed that out with MMTTY but my TrueTTY will not move > from 45bd. > > Tommorow night I wil use 85 Hz shift. > > 73 I'd guess that given similar conditions 85Hz would be perfect copy. The decode margin on 23Hz must be tiny! I'll try to get a few hours in the shack tomorrow (no promises though!) John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9b14736213a206; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:23:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14736213a206; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:23:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqxmb-00062v-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqxma-00062m-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxmY-0004q5-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cef.2083ab6d (39952) for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:22:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.085,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194729730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194729730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mal. Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP Best 73 from F4DTL RX: IC 7400 Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194729730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal.
Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL
RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini=20 whip PA0RDT
-------------------------------1194729730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8f472cc7122ec; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:08:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA097-a8f472cc7122ec; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:08:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOLd-0006VZ-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOLc-0006VP-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout0166.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.166] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOLZ-0007oW-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:56 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.13) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E00269146 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:07:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81e4c$c79e7ea0$0dd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> <003101c81e40$59ff6870$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:06:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have a PK232 and Kam surplus to requirement, the best choice for those that favour the digi modes. Mint condx with h/books G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > Ok Gary, > > Well , thats the beacon message , I think maxfram is 35 and its just under > , I'd rather use the pk232 , but its not wired up for 'tx' , the software > may make a better job of 'rx' though > > Are you closer to Birmingham , ? the signals not showing there ! > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:04 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Graham" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM > > Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > > > > >> 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' > >> > >> 503 Khz cent freq . > >> > >> Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K > >> > >> Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per > >> qsb cycle ? > >> > >> G.. > >> > >> Nb , connect is enabled . > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a8d4732dfa81cf; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:06:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4732dfa81cf; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:06:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq4HF-0000bJ-Rw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq4HF-0000bA-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq4HC-0005Jt-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC683EA10D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19853EA0DC for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4732DF82.5000801@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF'ers , In spring , I stopped my =93grabber=94 137kHz because I thought that it harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? Thank you for your answer. 73 f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-11a4736c16e321; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC42-11a4736c16e321; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8SB-0000dk-T5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8SB-0000db-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir8S8-0001B9-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106F23EA0F0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0CE3EA0D5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:54 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-ab5472a1aa9133; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:28:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab5472a1aa9133; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:27:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inekz-0000lt-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inekz-0000lk-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from smtpout0178.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.178] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inekw-0008L9-Nt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.204.62) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0024B43A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:52 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.443 Subject: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz De G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a0a473c38b1cb; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:16:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a473c38b1cb; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:16:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdeA-0007Re-Ms for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdeA-0007RU-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from mxoutlb03.versatel.de ([89.246.255.233]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isde5-0003w9-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxoutlb03.versatel.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAFCGTj0008711 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.102.232]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAFCGT6c003444 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from i59f621c6.versanet.de (i59f621c6.versanet.de [89.246.33.198]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:28 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Andy Talbot : > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm > > gravitation has to be decreased From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a984741797786; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:54:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984741797786; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:54:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu5A4-0006mr-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu59t-0006mi-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu59g-0004HC-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:11 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07BDC1C00099 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (unknown [193.249.230.201]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E34F1C00098 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071119114514320.4E34F1C00098@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711191245120011.057DD9C4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:12 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thank you everybody for providing information. 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-9834731f3182c9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:17:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-9834731f3182c9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:17:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoWD-0005v8-F9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoWD-0005uz-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:45 +0000 Received: from mx39.mail.ru ([194.67.23.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpoW9-0001PB-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:44 +0000 Received: from [62.33.168.14] (port=47740 helo=mail.ru) by mx39.mail.ru with asmtp id 1IpoW3-000DfO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:16:35 +0300 Message-ID: <4731F2F3.6090409@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:35 +0000 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lf Possible I copy short trace from XKO at 5:26 (my SR 5:05) http://ra3yo.narod.ru/br00515.jpg Dmitry http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ad7472ca67216b; 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Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:48:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103164824603.936E91C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:48:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' 503 Khz cent freq . Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per qsb cycle ? G.. Nb , connect is enabled . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b66474547ce7d; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:12:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b66474547ce7d; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:11:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv85j-0000Lr-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv85j-0000Li-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:23 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv85e-0001yl-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:22 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E403EA0B2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E673EA0E5 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474547B5.5040706@online.fr> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> In-Reply-To: <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Tonight WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , I copy your beacon (good) 00:10 =3D> 02:35 K2ORS a =E9crit : > I will save the electricity! And moreover, like one says in France: they is good for planet ;-) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-afe474f2e482ac; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:25:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe474f2e482ac; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:25:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqss-0002wy-Kj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqss-0002wm-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:22 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqso-0001qX-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 84331 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 21:14:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=Q+ApA5KPaktHJsK0B5Oo7DUcA81vYU5HRuRDG7xs4vkW5G+IN3sr63jbvehVP4DQznVVIn1PwoTDXzXrdcKCqdAaRBbjGohCpAYceYASnJ32EPwhtLOqZt8Y3oJ50OPbmCHoGFfiZZ+8bsZDpMDbIzsZlA7liHYhgcOxiMNl6bM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.15.100 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:14:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4j55tPQVM1l6GeGiFvrw8hWqW3Oy0e2Mjm5nyEU6ZQSbKpNsoX9HiDwgIzxrx6w8V8lpnoO54A-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:14:56 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.142 Subject: LF: [500]: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Yes, it appears to be on 503.30 as of 2113z. I think that I have seen this before.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 29 November 2007 20:59 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f44742d6e5116; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:45:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD034-8f44742d6e5116; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:45:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuSPW-0001BE-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:41:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuSPV-0001B5-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:41:01 +0000 Received: from web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.220]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuSPT-00004s-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 34981 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=teN8Lv1/6pmpG6B94xDO3mJVVazpEM+XWx39agjY4cf1leuhnPPKu1YXu+oUzXwcwTx1L3SR6y9zk1y+veWe0/ZqZ+nJ+BRsVENN77AB0gUCcyuNFFwLLxYKeVEioJty9LwoJoZN3XsYOqO33CqZtGIPMQkNUxEKz4fzrA8KUQk=; X-YMail-OSG: BS3JB34VM1kCaJyTlh_Doo4pwCav9j_ZwvKGsoqx85Qk9OeQh53ZTpjq4OdFGYvYrd7sSjF3ZRDfp8pDfm7ilQDEnd_ujeWum5z7yCkCE3EwtXM8 Received: from [78.150.152.121] by web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <424160.33754.qm@web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks John it's a great service you provide for us, very useful. I have completed building my 500 TX and now its just the Antenna to tune up, weather and family permitting - maybe this weekend! Mike, G3GMS IO95GB Message reads: Hello LF, I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! The new URL is: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk The grabber is at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change the page to announce a move of location. Regards. John GM4SLV ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-a314732d55e1af; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:22:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG093-a314732d55e1af; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:22:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq3ac-0000HX-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq3ac-0000HO-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq3aZ-0004hN-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.96) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D002BD4A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:21:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c821e8$cce9c1e0$60ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:21:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: qrm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all What is the clicking and scratching noise on the cw end of 80m. It was vy strong last nite. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a7c4731c7a4188; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:11:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c4731c7a4188; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:11:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iplcu-00058l-Rb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iplcu-00058c-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iplcr-0007fK-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA7EA6Xh016016 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:40:06 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA7E9dbL006666 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA7E9dVj005402; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC07 and 2200m Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, Jim Dean, VE3IQ has reported that the amateur 2200m proposal has been passed by Committee 4 this morning. This is good news for those of us who are not currently authorised to transmit on this band. The next step is the plenary approval for which we must keep our fingers crossed! Jim would like to have final reports from those Canadian amateurs who were granted experimental authorisation on the band. Without intending to preclude individual submissions, it would also be a good idea to have a combined report from all Canadian experimenters. I will be more than happy to spearhead this operation and will be most grateful for any submissions or suggestions. The report will be used by Jim during the consultation process in Canada for a domestic 2200m band, should it be approved at the WRC. Thanks and 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA101-8d64745444d36c; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:56:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA108-8d64745444d36c; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv7qe-0000Dz-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv7qd-0000Dp-W1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv7qZ-0001vc-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220503EA129 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA53EA127 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:42 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.138 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : VO1NA : trace at 06:00 utc ( first dash ! synchro ok , frequency ok , duration 9mn ok ) see 141.jpg picture The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7a4741695c8c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:45:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a4741695c8c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:45:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu47g-0006OH-8A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:45:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu47f-0006O8-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:44:59 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu47c-0001WE-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:44:59 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:50 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 10:44:49.0947 (UTC) FILETIME=[35B4E6B0:01C82A99] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.203,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82AA1.94858A20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82AA1.94858A20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 but who? henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z=20 qrs3
but who?
henny pa3cpm
jo22mb
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from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF6AF9000043 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.228]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9A55B900008E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105125250632.9A55B900008E@mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:53:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.089 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like=20 a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to=20 get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally=20 measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a=20 issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the= =20 leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under= =20 the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007=20 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ae9474a2f34378; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae9474a2f34378; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:28:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwTfh-0000QS-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwTfg-0000QJ-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:04 +0000 Received: from webmail15.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwTfd-0000RG-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:04 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail15) by mail.yandex.ru id S316108AbXKZCZs convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.206] ([85.141.88.206]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000260747633 References: 1650000000260747633 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <27041196043948@webmail15.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Mike! Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. What's time your was in the air? 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the=20 > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out=20 > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver and=20 > power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system and=20 > am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am happy=20 > that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C9 – =ED=CE=CF=C7=CF =C6=CF=D4=CF=CB=20= =CE=C5 =C2=D9=D7=C1=C5=D4 http://fotki.yandex.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8b6472e004014; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b6472e004014; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:24:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IojCZ-0001z2-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IojCZ-0001yt-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IojCS-0005y9-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CDD1B7000084 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:23:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A2A097000083 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:23:44 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104172344666.A2A097000083@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002001c81f07$8007b500$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> <004301c81ed0$8c7ecc10$56ebfc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:23:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.091 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : .... you start to see the disenchantment caused by by the path of 'non linearity' , as steam gave way to sail , mark/space has given way to multiplex ..... G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > The appliance operators of today could not handle SPARK nor have they > heard > about such things as crystal sets. > You have obviously picked up an old comic !!!!!!!!!!!! or you are older > than > you think. > > Mal/G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > >> > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother > with >> > a mode that noone else bothers about. >> >> Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. >> >> John Andrews, W1TAG >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b5c472e13b123f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:47:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c472e13b123f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:47:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IokUu-0002yW-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:47:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IokUt-0002yN-Kx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:46:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IokUr-0006K2-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:46:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C881DA4D8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:46:48 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104184648.5d4f4a35@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.044,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO (should be GW4HXO) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:26:31 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi Mike, LF, > > Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. > > See capture. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Hi Gary, Mike & LF, It's been good here for the last several hours. I could read it by ear at 15:10 which is before local sunset. Despite several attempts at around 16:00 Mike couldn't hear me, so no QSO possible. His beacon is now peaking S-7 on the S-meter of my IC718. Regards, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-9724739f75a29f; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:13:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-9724739f75a29f; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is1AR-0001Mb-4N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is1AQ-0001MS-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:22 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is1AM-0002EC-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:22 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071113191111.EVGC26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:11 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071113191111.DYA17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:11 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4739F6C8.22972.596A88@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136k beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Last night my beacon lasted less than one callsign when one of my cild flashed over. This is exactly why I did a brief evening test before leaving it on overnight. I will try again this evening (13th) for a few hours using QRSS60 on 136.3187kHz. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-943472f2b2a58; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF021-943472f2b2a58; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip36w-0000OE-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip36v-0000O5-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:29 +0000 Received: from kane.otenet.gr ([195.170.0.77] ident=OTEnet-mail-system) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip36r-0006k3-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:29 +0000 Received: from [85.72.89.255] (athedsl-316001.home.otenet.gr [85.72.89.255]) (authenticated bits=0) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lA5Ed3GN017571 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:39:04 +0200 Message-ID: <472F2B01.1010909@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:38:57 +0200 From: Alex Deligiannis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for >500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at >180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, >let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see >who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers >of e-mails separately > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > Hi, A copy please. Thank you Alex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-198473a397e1c9; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB48-198473a397e1c9; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:55:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is5bC-0001lD-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is5bC-0001l4-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is5b8-000629-UA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c9e.1a3903ca (52331) for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from AmiloMarkus (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD049-cc6b473a3942274; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:54:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation both=20= indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else notice= d this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modula= tion=20 both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone=20 else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8a1472ca0b12a8; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:24:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472ca0b12a8; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:24:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLn6-0004LJ-Vl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLn6-0004LA-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoLn3-0003b2-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 X-Trace: 621564167-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAc9LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 16:23:58 +0000 Message-ID: <00d001c81e35$ea61d840$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:23:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.207 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Graham & LF, I am using TrueTTY which has that feature, sorry if it is not compatible with most other decoders, I will go to 85 Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test >> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii ... > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM > Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > > >> Hi All, >> >> By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz >> shift. >> >> Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. >> >> Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. >> >> Reports welcome. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB11-c9473f74f822; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:11:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB21-c9473f74f822; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:10:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWnm-0006od-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWnl-0006oU-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:13 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItWni-0006Y1-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 50577 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 23:10:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gygYnWqozKwNH7mX+Vf/eYMSxOSU8jN2YEsjOCYLeyCP6/+FTdA/+N2tTMWaKMzVTxQg/SC2zcDQHz7z57HYGPKS8StLSG5Leojj6NEQQVpGuMQ90OjwkCT4j+Ov/QzOQomPLgsf9G2fn7Jg7utqVIp5pGLq4GM5cu8Fy5RHkbM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.65.144 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 23:10:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HFqT5gMVM1l9ZyU67wZcmdwnz4d_XsXYTjvx3YuTmMr3rwvgUB3t5wxRWdAd_fhTgUWKI0mJpA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.16.0/1135]); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:15 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Jay, LF Group, Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts > WE2XGR/2 will begin operating tonight at 2200Z...listening for callsigns for the first half of each > hour (2200-2230Z for example) and will transmit 'WE2XGR/2' during the second half of each hour > (2230-0000Z for example). I'll check the 'DX window' during receive periods. Finbar has staked out > 501.3 and Mal has 502.5 kHz and if you have a favorite frequency please let me know. XGR/2 will > remain on 506.5 kHz. If it looks like a QSO might be possible send me an e mail and we can break > away from the schedule. I don't check e mails once a QSO has begun. > > There might be some advantage to shorter time segments (10 or 15 minutes perhaps) but this is just a > starting point. Comments would be appreciated. I'll remain on this schedule until 0200Z...later if > anyone is still awake, interested and if propagation is favorable. Any and all reception reports are > appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD062-9044729b249155; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:02:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044729b249155; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:02:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InXo4-00084Y-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InXo4-00084P-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InXnz-0001fP-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A56C000349A32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:01:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4729B212.4070906@telia.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:01:38 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <005b01c81b4f$86ad4d90$0d00000a@AGB> <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2 ... looking for !!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, 1. Go to http://www.elfa.se 2. Click the Union Jack 3. In the left side menu, navigate to Resistors->Potentiometers-> Trimmers, single-turn->trimmer, type PTC-10->4.7k. This one has a Cermet track and 5x10mm footprint. 73 Johan SM6LKM Graham skrev: > So far no good , > > Im trying to locate qty 2 (better 4) cermet trimer pot's , top adj , > value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame , pcb mount , pin space , 5 > mm x 10 mm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac94731c44c3c8; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:57:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94731c44c3c8; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IplOE-0004x1-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IplOD-0004ws-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:17 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IplO9-0006OK-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:17 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CCB3EA0F5 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA15E3EA0BA for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C3E0.2070408@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Indeed not of trace of =93spurius=94 this night , I think that it is because= of the utisation of two RX of only one antenna ! This night I used a single turn loop (dia 1.80 m) on the 189kHz the K9AY on the 137 Khz . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you for the captures. I looked carefully and could see > no trace of the signals unfortunately. > > The TX will remain in operation. > > 73 > Joe > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> On 189,9498 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC34-6dd473661fd25f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:59:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC63-6dd473661fd25f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir264-0006yT-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir263-0006yK-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:47 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir25z-0001LM-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:47 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id BCFs1Y0050SCNGk0009x00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BDyW1Y0073tmwjw0000000; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:32 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=bJqdDMp1AAAA:8 a=GSgJhLL7MwXdR78TUugA:9 a=ACB0LrZFHBkRgKSEertyit8UvpQA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:44 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, ING was within ground-wave range, and used to be easily audible here when it was on. Just had a listen (0130z-ish) and nada. Main significant carrier was from R1 (QC), no ING at 276. 274 was clear so if there were any lsb mod to be heard it would have been plain. I'll have a listen in daylight tomorrow. However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is so pathetically wimpy now I can't hear it at 60 miles away (to be fair there are a couple like that, IUB 404 and DYL 237 spring to mind, but they're both very sad creatures), it wasn't to be found when I did a daylight sweep from a nearby quiet site testing out a mobile setup a couple of weeks ago. Will get back to you. Cheers, Steve Steve McDonald wrote: > Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new > location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other > east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to > check 275's USB and see if it really is back. > > Steve / VE7SL > > >> Hi Steve, >> >> ING 275 >> >> It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at >> one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> >> >> http://www.w3eee.com >> >> Steve McDonald wrote: >>> I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that > could >>> give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is >>> on-the-air. >>> >>> Steve / VE7SL >>> >>> Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8c947459b77f7; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c947459b77f7; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDfF-0001sN-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDfE-0001sE-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDfA-0003od-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fqpc1Y00A0cQ2SL0A00w00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:16 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fr8A1Y00V2Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oDPoW6VQCmGCeANU8ckA:9 a=VTjQ-HE6s790NEIQglcfFSYTftoA:4 a=uVawpVqKyvgA:10 Message-ID: <80943D1A686B4FB99DAF92D5CDC77E7B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.140 Subject: LF: Propogation Report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thanks to Alan G3NYK for updating the LF propagation report! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8e14729e4113a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:35:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14729e4113a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:34:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inb7t-0000Bw-08 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inb7s-0000Bm-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:28 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inb7q-0006YT-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:28 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C9CDA4D8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:33:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:32:41 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > > >>>>..... No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a > >>>>signal! .....<<<< > 'Steady on old boy', J , On the contrary, we can all radiate > signals. its just that the receiving stations are in the wrong > place's , Hello Graham, LF, Well...yes I suppose we can all radiate something! A VFO connected to a piece of wet string will radiate. I've just turned on an old AR88D in my office (under the desk - keeps the feet warm) and to find the start of 40m on its old dial I turned on a sig. gen in the workshop, stuck 2" of solder in the o/p connector, returned to the office, found my marker signal.... However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you want to work what you hear you must approach reciprosity of ERP, considerations of local noise floors aside. I'm sure you understans that I meant : "No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal... of sufficient strength to reach the desired location" My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease. The reason for the disparity is that he isn't radiating enough ERP to make his signal heard at distance. Given that Dave's chosen mode is CW then we can discount the fancy DSP datamodes and notions of negative S/N ratios. If his (and mine too) ground losses are high then to get enough current flowing in the antenna he'll need more TX power, not a new house! My point was not to say "we need more ERP to make this work" (although I happen to think that we do....) it was to say "if your antenna system is inefficient you can still achieve the necessary, modest, ERP by compensating with more TX power". We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so. As you and everyone else will know, it's simple to get "lots" of power on 500kHz. By "lots" I mean > 100W, which is "lots" to QRPers like Dave and myself. My TX uses 3 active devices (discounting the external VFO). A divider to get 500kHz from 8MHz VFO, a MOSFET gate drive chip (TC4427 ?) and a single IRF150. At 30V DC supply to the FET it produces 140W. This is adequate to get 100mW ERP (just) from a simple 10m vertical wire. With more capacity/height I can happily turn down the wick. I can get my 100mW quota with my current antenna with about 25W TX power but I have power in hand if necessary - eg alternative antennas or if (fingers crossed) we get a power increase from OFCOM. There doesn't seem much point in complaining that you can't get out when the answer is easy enough, and shouldn't involve the drastic step of moving house! Cheers all, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA103-a53474f28aa79; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:01:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53474f28aa79; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:01:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqVD-0002bN-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqVD-0002bE-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxqV9-0004ed-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 X-Trace: 632861612-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJe3TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 20:59:30 +0000 Message-ID: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:59:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b5a4732240f2be; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:46:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4732240f2be; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:46:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IprlY-0006bD-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IprlX-0006b4-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:47 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IprlU-0005J9-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 74360 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 19:44:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=Kgv9Fdj5uxMYvMSaVsdqIJHjfVdn4iBDcX7JAuuoJp41F2eqqbwOsknfEswcM1dbd6zwaP/LsQmXXUZC01O3l34+x1IRqCuNm/Tvqp6/XLEv7gPx6+BqbDMb/YGvBgaAy53LCoAbgjWODMLmfO6hgM0t2Ao0HraIgKm4Sx6OMCE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.202.69 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2007 19:44:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0zUCjqIVM1knLzms.OMumuNu1X2xoZZ9xG26fhUy18PwUsEfzFppakQFC._cokGmVwWC3PQsiOj_sTNoCZxQ4REkffBn54f_63Yq7sqF9Kwk64Yf From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:44:39 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001c01c82162$6b0cc610$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] G3ZWH - report Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, G3ZWH copied here 559 calling CQ on 501.450 CW (QRZ.com shows location is Snodland, Kent) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-11c473ea6051d5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:27:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC44-11c473ea6051d5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:27:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItJ1g-0003zy-4l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItJ1f-0003zp-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItJ1d-0000RS-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:39 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F9FDA4D9 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:28 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 2nd QSO G14DPE / WE2XGR/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:01:12 -0500 "Jay Rusgrove" wrote: > Just completed another QSO with Finbar. Congratulations again both Finbar & Jay, I also heard the WE2XGR/2 beacon on 506.5 fading up and down at the noise floor at around 2330-0000z last night. Very weak but readable in peaks of QSB. Well done. -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB24-17e472a62b3398; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:35:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB22-17e472a62b3398; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:35:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InjYQ-0002Ge-8W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InjYP-0002GV-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:25 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InjYM-0000pe-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 76637 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 23:34:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=dnzfT6qN09cSawwTm1HteIT1RCf5XMTHlRKIN8SnECoKBuN5vD0Ub9inRMy9XztDF+BYf5ouxiVVFsBxz2Qzh95aijFpnV5pMyFxRM70geyCRFxyig8ktluRbC4X+aWmRiaOfz4JPcxn3n1QfyRTCJFU0JwBtZ494JB0NkmpKww= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.41.144 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 23:34:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Aky713cVM1kfEsVTG3_89zcJqmw37.ffC_umgiNJLWoDM4lbwVoWjNmTJYXDZuoYjoKUi1.DUA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.17/1103]); Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:32:40 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:32:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Chris, Graham, LF Group, Thanks to G3XIZ earlier this evening for a nice RTTY QSO on 503.5kHz. I used MMTTY with 85Hz shift, and everything worked fine - mind you, Chris is not far from me, and is a good 599 signal. I am currently (2310utc) sending some test calls on 503.5kHz in PSK31 using G3PLX's Windows software - any reports/QSOs welcome. > Hi Jim, > > > > Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? > > > > As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , looks > like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty has > that option > The driver is an IC 718 transmitting on 4.50x MHz in LSB mode, connected to the PC sound card in the usual way for data operation. So the bandwidth is about 2.7kHz, although I would not want to use it all! The HF output is mixed down to 500 kHz with a 4MHz crystal, and also fed to a simple diode envelope detector to recover the modulation envelope. The 500kHz output is filtered and amplified linearly to about +13dBm, then applied to a limiting amplifier to give a square wave "clock" signal for the class D output stage with the amplitude modulation stripped off, but retaining the frequency and phase information. The envelope detector output is used as a reference voltage for a series regulator feeding the DC power to the class D PA, so the DC supply voltage is modulated with the envelope of the original signal. The result is the output of the class D PA looking pretty close to the original modulated signal. On receive, the signal path is reversed, and the incoming signal mixed up to 4.5MHz for reception by the IC718. I have been looking at the software on NL9222's extensive download site, there seems to be a number of feasible modes there that might be worth trying - I will try installing some over the next few days. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-1db472f911a31; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:55:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC55-1db472f911a31; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:54:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9tS-0000aE-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9tR-0000a5-O1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:01 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip9tR-0002oM-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 4602 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 21:53:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OtE0hLAG2M3wfYQFb2RjVzfU/j/ufQZCtftiZrSKF46o010+TZ1ikmRccSZCLOQ9ZTjkfGzFRhNt/29sAvk6XcSmt+6cZMZWyHaXW213CDqIXEdLryg6+IbkJYPb0UuqcE+oXdl4PwCvU3PyFX+BdflcLFyazpqXnOe5ArNDnNE=; X-YMail-OSG: 4RtmqNkVM1lvmaH0IOrx3gpxT7zzOPZc75FN2SV8BRwjB0WNRVmSJfEvHZES.yFVuK2NtqUhr5OYAvxA5MKy_06LUP2lm0W8ej4EQg5mqQ-- Received: from [81.152.21.87] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:53:55 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:53:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter March To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005401c81fca$ba228b20$0d00000a@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <354936.131.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter uk500 kz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-37709901-1194299635=:131" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-37709901-1194299635=:131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for your great contribution Jim. A good idea Graham That is the big advantage of the UK500khz forum in that archived stuff can be available to users at any time in the file and picture archive. Too bad the RSGB reflector does not have this facility, a big body of work could have been built up over the years. This would allow new comers and regulars alike the opportinity to browse the history of the LF Art. Although I think the Blacksheep application may have some archive facility, it seems never to have been invoked by the "webmaster" and if I read it correctly its a bit user unfriendly anyway a bit DOSish.So why not migrate to a newer user friendly system, Google Uk500khz. Also it has the advantage of compartmetalising the discussion Threads. Another valuable resource for browsing back over time on a given subject. Just a plug for what I think would take this discussion group forward into 21st century along with the EER PA technology. I will now duck below the parapit once again. Vy 73 to all LF de petefmt Graham wrote: Jim, You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. --0-37709901-1194299635=:131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks for your great contribution Jim.
 
A good idea Graham
That is the big advantage of the UK500khz forum in that archived stuff can be available to users at any time in the file and picture archive. Too bad the RSGB reflector does not have this facility,  a big body of work could have been built up over the years. This would allow new comers and regulars alike the opportinity to browse the history of the LF Art. Although I think the Blacksheep application may have some archive facility, it seems never to have been invoked by the "webmaster" and if I read it correctly its a bit user unfriendly anyway a bit DOSish.So why not migrate to a newer user friendly system,  Google Uk500khz. Also it has the advantage of compartmetalising the discussion Threads. Another valuable resource for browsing back over time on a given subject.
Just a plug for what I think would take this discussion group forward into 21st century along with the EER PA technology.
I will now duck below the parapit once again. Vy 73 to all LF de petefmt

Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Jim,

You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be
better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for
> 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at
> 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy,
> let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to
> see
> who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers
> of e-mails separately
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:
> 11/2/2007 21:46
>
>




Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. --0-37709901-1194299635=:131-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-94a474eb3b01a1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF028-94a474eb3b01a1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixiia-0001qB-Sm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixiia-0001q2-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxiiW-0000a7-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JcTL1Y0030Fqzac0500g00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:02 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jci21Y0041pKLLP0300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:02 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YCAETsNkAAAA:8 a=G0B7nfMGOrMpOY_tpmoA:9 a=lehfpxoaezkice_iSFMA:7 a=-AENdSTdQh5fSm1WYI7E7zSWfKUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=owhbxUb_RjYA:10 Message-ID: <002d01c83285$3d649420$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> <000601c83283$0c6f8980$0b01a8c0@weazle> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? J.B. To be effective as a directional receive antenna it must be a minimum of a couple wavelengths long. A 'short' version will need to be evaluated at an appropriately higher frequency. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question > Hi Kevin, Mike, LFers, > > Thanks for the replies/suggestions regarding my antenna question. > If I was to make use of the entire fence-line, I could have a very- > very long wire/beverage of about 3/4 of a mile or so. I'll try a > short version for starters to see what happens. It's orientation > will be good for Europe and the N E of the US and Canada. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-92a4739d8a0210; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:02:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a4739d8a0210; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:02:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz9R-0000tk-2O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz9Q-0000ta-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:12 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irz9M-0006TC-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:12 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6AADA4D6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:58 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071113170158.682a4726@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.040,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:49 +0100 "John RABSON" wrote: > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or > EIRP? > Hello LF, John The limit for the UK is 0.1W ERP Paltry I know...! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8b4472f2a9485; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b4472f2a9485; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34d-0000Ho-FK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34c-0000Hc-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:07 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.225]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip34T-0002VT-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W24 ([207.46.11.187]) by bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:36:46 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 05:36:45 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:36:46.0030 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A8E26E0:01C81FB9] X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.752,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_" Subject: LF: XES et al X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the signals. Not= hing this morning I can see =20 - Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available =20 Laurence 9V1 LF http://kl1x.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotmai= lnews=3D --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the sign= als.  Nothing this morning I can see
 
- Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available
 
Laurence 9V1 LF
http://kl1x.com

 

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Try now! =3D --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME084-9e34730225a25e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34730225a25e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpJZO-0006tN-Va for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpJZO-0006tD-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpJZM-0006xn-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3C7DA4D8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:49 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071106081349.251d0bc0@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000801c8200e$6bdbb150$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <000801c8200e$6bdbb150$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.041,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:46:08 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo OM Finbar! > Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz > was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. > I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! > My QSL will be direct to you. > =20 > GN and 73 > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 Congrtatulations Lubos and Finbar, I heard you Lubos call Finbar after we signed and Mike G3GMS also finished on 80m crossband. You were a good signal here on 80m too Lubos. I wonder if you were copying any of my transmissions and whether we could also have had a cross-band QSO? Well done both. Cheers, --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ab2473f7dea2c4; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:49:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB028-ab2473f7dea2c4; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:49:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItXP4-00075g-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItXP3-00075X-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItXP0-0002Ch-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E1E7440804C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4C240804C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5C495B85 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1195343295.473f7dbfce6ad@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV : > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 > "James Moritz" wrote: > > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > > > Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying > > to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and > > down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz > > although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. > > > > Conditions seem quite poor here tonight. > > Finbar fading between 599 and 549 > DI2AM the only Eu QRSS beacon visible > GW4HXO fading bewtween 439 and nil > > > Nothing on seen on grabber yet of WE2XGR/6 although Finbar reports > hearing him at 22:48 > > > Very strong QRN to make it even worse. > > Cheers, > > John GM4SLV > > > Up here conditions don't appear especially poor. Finbar is 579-599 DI2AM is normal for this hour, one other 505 beacon also audible Listening / watching on 506.5kHz has so far resulted in NIL, a not too surprising result but one has to try even the almost impossible... 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b46473c3fe034a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:47:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b46473c3fe034a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:47:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ise7j-0007bn-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ise7i-0007be-MU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ise7f-0001SV-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.bd9.218761b1 (39329) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:46:35 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195130795" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195130795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, May I also, respectfully, offer up the current implementations of Murphy's Law, Sod's Law and the Finagle Factor as further candidates for updating to take account of modern knowledge ? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK -------------------------------1195130795 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
May I also, respectfully, offer up the current implementations of Murph= y's=20 Law, Sod's Law and the Finagle Factor as further candidates for updating to=20= take=20 account of modern knowledge ?
 
 
 
73 de Pat=20 G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK
 <= /HTML> -------------------------------1195130795-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d6473630e529b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB68-6d6473630e529b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqypO-0006GV-De for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqypN-0006GM-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:21 +0000 Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqypJ-0008UP-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id B7Pw1Y0010vp7WL0109g00; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BAV31Y0013tmwjw0000000; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=bJqdDMp1AAAA:8 a=BxXW7YhRJXydDUCZTFIA:9 a=roYR7arpHzUC9KrbR0In6F7t_Q8A:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:15 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, ING 275 It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. Cheers, Steve http://www.w3eee.com Steve McDonald wrote: > I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could > give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > on-the-air. > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-182472f7fff366; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB26-182472f7fff366; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8kr-0007dG-Gs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8kq-0007d7-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8ko-0003fy-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF16CDA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:40:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:40:24 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105204024.4ee9833e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -781: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:36 +0100 Michel F5WK wrote: > > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW > > ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the > > really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who > > can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > > John, > > I can barely copy your signal by ear right now at 20:30 UTC in a > 250 Hz bandwidth. > > > 73 / Michel f5wk JN18HP Thanks Michel! This is very good news! A distance of 1318km! Amazing. At 20:30 I am using 5W TX power. Estimated ERP is 25mW. That is a fantastic report! I will QSL direct for the SWL report. 73 de John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9d2473651fb2e3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:51:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME086-9d2473651fb2e3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:51:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir12P-0006j7-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir12O-0006iy-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:56 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir12K-0003W6-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0181EF88FA for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id R84jLXIN9fqa for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.116]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 521FB1EF88F8 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:50:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to check 275's USB and see if it really is back. Steve / VE7SL > Hi Steve, > > ING 275 > > It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at > one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > http://www.w3eee.com > > Steve McDonald wrote: > > I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could > > give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > > on-the-air. > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b27472e221524d; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:48:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27472e221524d; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:48:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolS3-0004GP-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolS2-0004GG-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:06 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolRz-0006ae-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:06 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:57 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c81f1b$8ff81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <001201c81f19$c2e7e540$08a3fea9@edgar1ew1re1zt> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2007 19:47:58.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[99877AB0:01C81F1B] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.258,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137-activity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tu ed, henny pa3cpm 73s ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dl2hre=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: LF: 137-activity Ge LF. 2day copy any time ago on 137.7KHz in qrss3-mode: DJ6GT, PA3CPM, F6BWO, S5= 7A, DK7SU. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a66474060941e0; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:56:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a66474060941e0; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:56:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmV7-00037t-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmV7-00037h-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmV3-0002Xh-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 X-Trace: 627655673-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALHuP0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:55:31 +0000 Message-ID: <010301c829fb$72810f90$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:55:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Dave, LF, Thank you for the report Dave, looks like the mode is working quite well at distance. A few are decoding it quite well now. Next, a 2 way QSO !! 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Hi, Gary. > > Copying your 22/23Hz RTTYsigs here also. The G0MRF beaon is very strong at > this QTH, but you are 100% during the breaks in the G0MRF beacon. > I'm using WinWarbler (freeware), which works fine but is a bit "wide open" > and gets distracted by any other nearby transmissions. > > "G4WGT IO83QP TESTING", "JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG G4WGT G4WGT RYRYRYJ" > etc,etc. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 18 November 2007 15:09 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > > > Chris, LF, > > Thank you for the report, keep watching. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris McCarthy" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > > >> Gary, >> I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so >> far. Your about S3. >> Chris, G3XVL >> >> On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >>> >>> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >>> shift >>> over greater distances. >>> >>> I will appreciate any reports. >>> >>> The software I am using is MMTTY. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >>> >>> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a19472e7c9d30b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a19472e7c9d30b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:14:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IorTf-0008PS-Fj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IorTd-0008PJ-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:09 +0000 Received: from rel106.mail.aue.yahoo.com ([124.108.96.113]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IorTY-0007pf-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 63878 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Nov 2007 02:13:40 -0000 Received: from 124.108.96.70 by rel106.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:13:40 -0800 Received: (qmail 18247 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 02:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sooby.xtra.co.nz) (bjhayes@xtra.co.nz@219.88.52.178 with login) by smtp101.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 02:13:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KWzxJHIVM1lR49DaDfhi2pzPV13S1tNiSXURgBgx5bK37dOFcNrVm76pwVMI86SFSg-- Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20071105130741.019c8570@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:38 +1300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary and LF Group, >There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF >operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its >frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 >this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? I used a IC706 MK2 as a LF signal source for several years [CW only]. The transmitter was operated at 18 odd MHz. with minimum power into a dummy load. This was followed by a couple of 7490's to divide by 100 [final frequency was 181.4 kHz.]. Note that there was no transverting, just simple division. Keying the 706 caused the fan to start and stop with a very minor observable frequency shift on the Argo display. With hindsight, I would leave the transmitter run all the time and key a later stage. I should also mention that I did not have a TCXO installed as they were unavailable by 2000. Overall, I was happy with the end result for transmitting. Receiving was a different story. The receiver was both deaf and full of birdies in the LF area. Some pre-amplification seems to have worked well for other 706 models but I would have only been amplifying the birdies. For receiving I used a basic converter ahead of the 706 [18 Mhz xtal osc.] and tuned on the 18 Mhz. band. This worked well. I have since "opened " up the 706 for general HF transmitting. If I decide to fire up in the 136 kHz area, then I would divide down from 13.6 Mhz. I cannot comment on 500 kHz. receiving performance but a dummy load transmitting test showed about 25 Watts output with a poor waveform which, no doubt, could be readily filtered. 73, Kevin [ZL4MD]. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b5b472f2b3731e; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:40:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b472f2b3731e; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip37F-0000Pj-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip37E-0000PT-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip377-0002WR-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:46 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A60DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:39:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:37:34 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105143734.738631b7@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.160 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:29:01 +0000 "Andy Talbot" wrote: > Can you put me on the list please, Jim > > Me too Jim, Thanks, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ab047313ffe4a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:33:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab047313ffe4a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:33:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpcaK-0002Ha-LV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpcaK-0002HR-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpcaH-0006XB-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48394E60E2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pEDOnf++lfMh for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E14E60E1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:31:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV_this_morn Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C820FF.765488E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GM, John and ALL! I captured your signal this morning.It was audible 329 with long QSB. I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT. What ERP did you use this morn? GL and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM, John and ALL!

I captured your signal this morning.It was audible= 329 with long QSB. I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT.=

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Lubos, OK2BVG

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(we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp109.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 01:10:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pwLarw8VM1ktA3kJN5j2zDw5fQmFaGc5FO6bgVfcdM846ofv3c4vHE3jnpoDNYXpDM33Xh05NtK1QuMFZgaS7HEAWW_71UnbCgH2.oOwzIMT4sLWq4Y- Message-ID: <4737A813.4040303@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:10:43 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 2 (High) References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: LF TX mod for TS-850 link... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Guys, I have been informed that the Feb '07 RadCom magazine has a link in it to my site for the low freq transmit mod for the Kenwood TS-850. It was written by Bob ZL2CA. That link is wrong. Here is the correct link on my site: http://www.we0h.us/Amateur_Radio_stuff/TS850/ It is a PDF document. Special thanks to Steve VE7SL for letting me know of the printed link in RadCom mag. There is a bunch of other useful info on my site also: http://www.we0h.us/Amateur_Radio_stuff/ http://www.we0h.us/505kc/ 73's Mike WE0H WD2XGI - 2200 & 1750 meters WD2XSH/16 - 600 meters From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC44-1bc4735cf56f3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC24-1bc4735cf56f3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqsKv-0004fG-Ds for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqsKv-0004f7-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqsKr-0006OT-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:28 +0000 X-Trace: 624423390-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAINdNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 15:32:58 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071109-0, 09/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, As you probably know by now (because I have mentioned it often) I have quite a small back garden. I have continually strived to improve the LF/MF antenna with this limitation & to keep on the right side of Mrs T. The most recent "improvements" have been carried out & installed, latest details at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page19.html I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. I have also revamped the appearence of my web site & updated some pages, please have a look & report any problems or make comments etc. Web site home page address at the bottom. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b5d4736ab592c0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:12:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d4736ab592c0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:12:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir6zW-0000Lg-2e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:12:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir6zV-0000LW-I1 for 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(helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IntPS-0004Ld-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0137.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.137] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IntPO-0006HA-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:49 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.10) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E002537AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:05:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:04:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: PAT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I cannot hear PAT this morning. Last time hrd it was using CW followed by a burst of the Zambesi tango. G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8f8472da6472a0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:00:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f8472da6472a0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:00:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IodDE-0006wn-6a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IodDD-0006we-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IodDA-0008JA-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB86DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:00:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:00:06 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104110006.691f913f@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> <000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary and LF, I'm sorry I wasn't available last night to try some decoding tests myself. I saw the RTTY traces on the grabber as I was heading out for the evening. I will certainly put together a collection of captures from the night for you. Unfortunately there are no audio captures from last night. Conditions were good from what I saw at around 1700-1800 - I worked G3UNT, G3XIZ and (just... as I was being dragged from the house by XYL) G4GDR. The QRN levels were low enough to make it possible to copy some very weak CW by ear. I'll send you a zip file of screen captures for the period wou had the RTTY running once I've had a chance to sift through them Cheers, John On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:52:45 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Good Morning LF, > > My thanks to Graham - G0NBD, Jim - M0BMU & Dave - G3WCB for the very > interesting reports & comments regarding my narrow shift RTTY tests. > It looks quite likely that this mode could be competition for normal > CW QSO's at 20 wpm were RTTY 45 Bd gives the equivalent of 60 wpm > without taking too much bandwidth on a small band allocation ( 23 Hz > in this case). > > The findings have surprised me in such that I believed that the > narrow shift could be a problem but as Jim stated with a little care > tuning to the signal a very good percentage copy can be achieved. > > In Jims case the distance is 268 Km & Dave 274 Km. > > During the test I was also monitoring Johns (GM4SLV Shetland) grabber > IP90GG at 739 Km & Daves (G3YXM Birmingham) grabber IO92BK at 143 Km. > The traces there were such that at Birmingham the qsb periods between > dips were short & deep but at Shetland the QSB period between dips > was much longer & dips shallower maintaining a longer readable trace. > The traces after dark at Shetland were so strong that my RTTY signal > was producing a solid white line so in those terms we could expect > the narrow RTTY would have given a 100% copy. > > Perhaps John could send me or make available to some captures of last > night so I can include them on my web site at the next update, even > better if there were a sound bite available. > > Thanks to all for watching & reporting. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:35 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > > > > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > > > The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your > > test, up to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The > > upper trace is G0MRF's > > beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. > > As far as > > readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were > > printing out > > with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor > > on the spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with > > similar signal levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been > > comfortable audible CW copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are > > quite variable - For a short QSO of a couple of minutes, this > > wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would require standing by > > waiting for the signal level to build up after a fade - > > also rather like CW. > > > > I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be > > tuned quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and > > I found it was > > neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards > > G0MRF's CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal > > carriers was only 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth > > of the narrow RTTY looks quite similar to PSK31. > > > > Thanks for the test, > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a84474edeac54; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:45:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a84474edeac54; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:45:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxlYr-00028g-BE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxlYq-00028X-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxlYn-0006aX-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:20 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lATFi7L1071416 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:44:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="response" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Joe, Why not use one of the fence wires? I have had excellent results doing so. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 541 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-9fe4745789746; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:40:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG028-9fe4745789746; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:39:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBJv-0000wW-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBJu-0000wN-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:14 +0000 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBJr-0007Us-9D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:14 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-13-46.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.13.46] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1IvBJk-000GNk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:05 +0000 Message-ID: <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:37:32 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) That made things so much clearer! Peter, G3LDO Laurence KL1X wrote: > > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > suggest you peruse.... > > > > http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf > > Laurence KL1 X > QTU 24 > > > > > > > > Hi all > > To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at > > times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what > MF QRG I > > am transmitting on > > I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX > freq to > > avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all > bands, the > > normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG > > otherwise I might not hear you. > > > > 73 De Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-889472ba2c422b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:21:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-889472ba2c422b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:20:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4sd-0007no-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4sc-0007nf-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:42 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4sY-0000ZI-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:42 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA2MJf8T024955 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:41 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA2MJebL020499 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:40 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA2MJeHB024134; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:40 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:39 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> Message-ID: References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, John, Group. The LOA in this part of Canada granted 1 W ERP. If it gets reduced to EIRP, I'll have to run the Decca on 2 of its 3 PA's when we get the band! At least we'll be back on 2200m again. I wonder what the basis is for the HZ objection... 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b914736ebb32d0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:47:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD083-b914736ebb32d0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:47:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrBGL-0001MM-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrBGK-0001MD-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:00 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrBGF-0003nL-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:45:59 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lABBjiAj031101 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:44 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lABBjhbL000647 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lABBjhnS003873; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.402 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you JP for watching. I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! 73 Joe On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything!= ) > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-104474b316416d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:49:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104474b316416d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:49:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwkt6-0002M3-Ub for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwkt6-0002Lu-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:04 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwkt2-0008F1-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:03 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HPej1Y00B17dt5G050lu00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:48:53 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HYoo1Y00g2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:48:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=HTYvB8hMWyf154xzEcAA:9 a=1_Pp7pYiGpbr72RKbN38zQogJwIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=dMqnuecAdt5J8tScWIcA:9 a=ogbTJm9sV0Of3eIXhQIA:7 a=FFuL2fodhyChT45S2WcxAgtQ_t0A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <1033F7D85CA34E69A69C4C9DB2B4C4DA@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:48:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny, Thank you for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg capture xgj 0:35z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90f475082a2286; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:37:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD067-90f475082a2286; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:37:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDWq-00056Y-7o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDWp-00056P-LQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:07 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyDWl-0006IK-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 21964 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 21:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 21:08:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yYFU7iIVM1lODdC1I.QdcZ.iVCetUKHoY.8.SJotrLmZ1MqkT...KGB68ZdRZiqKUcsuBr6LFXPix0OPigsStvwk1PYwGF5XLHh8xbC_BqAh.8Qc From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:08:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <47507BDE.7961.34160B@dave.davesergeant.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500]ARRL Letter reports on transatlantic QSOs Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The following has just appeared in today's ARRL Letter: * 500 kHz Experiment Charting New Territory: The evening of November 13 saw the first transatlantic contact on 500 kHz between amateur experimental stations. US experimental station WE2XGR/2 (Jay Rusgrove, W1VD, in Connecticut) and GI4DPE (Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF, in Northern Ireland) communicated by standard-speed CW for about 15 minutes. On that same night, US experimental stations WD2XSH/12 (Mike Mussler, AI8Z, in Colorado) and WD2XSH/20 (Rudy Severns, N6LF, in Oregon) made the first contact in the western half of the USA. Two days later, WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE repeated their feat and WD2XSH/12 had contacts with WD2XSH/6 (Pat Hamel, W5THT, in Mississippi) and WD2XSH/13 (John Oehlenschlager, K0JO, in Minnesota). The ARRL 500 kHz experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued in September 2006 and has 19 active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of Vermont, serves as experimental project manager for The 500 KC Experimental Group for Amateur Radio . (No mention of the crossband QSOs between VE1ZZ and the UK though). 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b0b4746fecb20a; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:25:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b4746fecb20a; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:24:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbKO-0004HT-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbKN-0004HK-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:27 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvbKK-0006Jp-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:27 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:17 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c82ded$456d9e10$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2007 16:24:16.0347 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AADEAB0:01C82DED] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2311.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C82DF5.A6E8A100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100" ------=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj=20 time:11:45z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000257493003 References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> 1650000000257493003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <18761195523930@webmail24.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:58:50 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: USB soundcards Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? HI Peter! One friend of mine use a 8 USB sound cards on his desktop at once. Not for Q= RSS, of course.=20 He was monitored air-channels. I'm buy for him low cost creative and no-name OEM sound card last year in mo= scow.=20 The creative 5.1 was more prefer he said. I'm don't find a links for thats usb SB. I think no more thats models in sto= ck here.-( 20.11.07, 00:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk): > Hi Peter, > I have 2 sound cards in my desktop PC, one is the motherboard sound card a= =20 > Realtek AC97 basic features & a PCI sound card cheap & basic C-Media 8738.= =20 > Both these cards work very well for use with the mentioned software. > 73 > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:11 PM > Subject: LF: USB soundcards > Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS > signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc. > Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 > sound card > Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster > Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or hav= e > I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. > Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. > regards > peter G8AFN > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft Windows and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB "=EC=C0=C2=C9=CD=D9=C5 =D7=C5=DD=C9": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=CB=D5=D2=D3=20= =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8 http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.= xml?id=3D11 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b1a4734e2f9355; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:45:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC046-b1a4734e2f9355; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:45:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqcap-0001X5-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqcao-0001Ww-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqcal-0007oD-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C13EA0C4 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:44:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1A23EA0C0 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:44:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4734E2DE.8020109@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:44:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ ,WD2XNS , WD2XKO now ! 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1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XBAND 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Xband 500/3533 khz started some time back when there was a request from some EU stns to enable them to have a qso using this method. Their choice happened to be 3533 at the time and it seems to have stuck. I added 7033 for the longer haul stns and that also seems to work satisfactory. Since then I often hear EU stns calling CQ QSX 500 or CQ MF and I respond to them when I am about. This procedure has also been going on for years on 137 khz especially 7033 khz for W and VE contacts during night time. These frequencies have been established plus/minus qrm so one searches around the freq. There is no ideal freq and somer QRM is unavoidable. The GI stations seem to favour 3545 khz. The bad QRM heard recently from a sounder around 3533 khz seems to have gone for now. Stations heard calling xband are DL, SM, LA, G, EI, SV, OK, OM, OH, I1, YU, UA1, SP, F and VE1. There are probably others as well, there is more interest than you think concerning 500 khz and xband is the only way to get a qso at present. I have heard EU stns calling G stns without results. Any HF freq would suit me, I am geared up for all bands xband or direct qso's, I am also vfo on 500 for flexibility, but I will stick to established procedures for now, except someone has a better idea. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9fc474c3a8570; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:41:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc474c3a8570; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:40:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix2Wv-00051z-0b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix2Wu-00051q-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout0146.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.146] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix2Wr-00009k-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:20 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A004B04EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:06 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,c63137cb4f54cb26,d075a6d75c0c519c,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3351:3636:3690:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:38:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n All Since the unusually good condx a couple of weeks ago the band has reverted back to normal. I have not heard Uncle Sams boys. since then and I dont suppose they have heard me. When condx on 500 are normal it is hard to make any impression with a QRP station. When propagation is exceptionally good then the proberbial wet string and a handful of microwatts will achieve miracles. EU reports are all well down at present, S1 seems good along with the QSB disappearing tricks. !! 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9b7472f4fb3365; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME053-9b7472f4fb3365; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5Xr-0003dj-JU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5Xr-0003dZ-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:27 +0000 Received: from web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip5Xq-0003J5-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 16979 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 17:15:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aaTSiuY4NgXpnLlTGF0KOLnqyBFRRgd11eHD5OzSwlOPHlkouQP/eoxokqh0YdlNLB5GJikgIem6jDH+auF9ycSJk73Yh/OGBIrfb0mYZOw6E2un3iQ7i2ULOQ6/9Gom8773ouE2rRZ8fIKCd633juTWmeK8Z+ugzjzwJLsMHBs=; X-YMail-OSG: p4OBOxAVM1lRz1lWoNYq8tT5wJA8337NUtLOWl6bfe2ScLIQqLXES1gAD7W2A4BiUwiiITK3zZf6ZM.X_s2sZ4gXC4pSKq6wO46lEQ57oGXUGUckqxmIqPdoAW0- Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:20 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:15:20 +0000 (GMT) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <648559.16158.qm@web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-668179329-1194282920=:16158" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes please Jim - 73 Brian James Moritz wrote: Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes please Jim - 73 Brian

James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear LF Group,

I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for
500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at
180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy,
let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see
who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers
of e-mails separately

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-9754735784f161; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:22:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF083-9754735784f161; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:22:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqmXY-0003kn-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqmXY-0003ke-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0000 Received: from cas-mta3-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.28] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqmXU-0002Hk-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter2.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.69]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54C4010; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.28]) by localhost (cas-filter2.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id pLBS-3FUH5Hy; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from crazypeecee.casema.nl (5354976F.cable.casema.nl [83.84.151.111]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBE33ECB; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:56 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:22:34 +0100 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Cc: "W.F. Oorschot" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071110092156.CBBE33ECB@mta-fe.casema.nl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Fwd: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_8763125==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --=====================_8763125==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Good news! Joe means above 200 metres of course. 73, Dick, PA0SE >Dear Group, > >Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, >we get an allocation below 200 metres. > >See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ > >for more info. > >73 >Joe VO1NA --=====================_8763125==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Good news!

Joe means above 200 metres of course.

73, Dick, PA0SE


Dear Group,

Good news from Geneva:  For the first time ever,
we get an allocation below 200 metres.

See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/

for more info.

73
Joe VO1NA
--=====================_8763125==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-9f54730bd991fe; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:17:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG017-9f54730bd991fe; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:16:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpTtw-0000Tr-Mj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpTtw-0000Ti-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.148] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpTts-0006HV-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.53) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00298363 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c820a9$69baa2a0$35e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DX/VE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in VE. There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband 3533 and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. The mode is CW De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-9104731929058; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:25:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104731929058; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:25:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipi5F-0003oa-VP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipi5F-0003oR-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipi5B-0005Ge-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA7AOEY7009250 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:14 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA7AOEbL029822 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:14 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA7AODKT031531; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:13 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:13 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you for the captures. I looked carefully and could see no trace of the signals unfortunately. The TX will remain in operation. 73 Joe On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a58472b5e0ef4; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:28:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a58472b5e0ef4; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:27:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Io-0005ym-5r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0In-0005yd-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:25 +0000 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0Ik-0004pK-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:25 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Io0Ij-00020y-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:21 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:27:07 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgdOD7b9fu4DuKXTNSDHNAThN/89gAGMquQ In-Reply-To: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz NoV Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Following some excellent x-band QSOs by some NoV holders I've been asked if clarification can be given as to whether this is appropriate given the a particular clause in the 500kHz NoV's Terms & Conditions. This issue is that clause h) in the NoV states that "This Notice of Variation is restricted for the Research for which it is issued and does not apply to routine messages and signals for which the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence shall apply." I've checked with Ofcom and the position is that a standard Special Research Permit NoV was used for issuing 500kHz NoVs and that therefore contained the clause h) wording. This clause is really meant to cover conditions that might apply when, for example, an SRP NoV is issued to allow a power level of 32dBW for EME experiments on a stated band/frequency. Such an NoV is issued for that purpose and does not give blanket permission to run that power level on any other bands, when "... the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence shall apply" Thus, for 500kHz operating the T&Cs of the SRP NoV must be observed for that band only and it does not "vary" the T&Cs of Section 2 of the licence which allows operation on bands stated in the appropriate schedule. If my explanation above isn't entirely clear, the simple answer is that doing x-band QSOs is OK as long as they are in someway related to the "research" on which you sought your NoV. Thus, for 99.9% of cases it is unlikely to be an issue. I trust that our overseas friends are also content with that this little piece of British bureaucracy makes their involvement "legal" depending of course on the small print in their licence! 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae1472b9fef36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:09:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae1472b9fef36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:08:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4gd-0007fK-4R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4gc-0007fB-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4gZ-000866-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 617141C0008F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:08:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 383721C0008E for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:08:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102220810230.383721C0008E@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:08:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: psk31 on 503 CHANGE OF MODE Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : As the band is little empty , Ive changed mode to 110 Baud HF Packet , tone= =20 center frequency 503 khz , Im using Multipsk , latest version , tone freq=20 , center 2khz , tx , usb 501 Kz short data burst , 10 second prf, be intrested to see if it prints , and if= =20 so how many in a qsb cycle ? Tnx Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Graham" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: LF: Re: psk31 on 503 Ok Brian, Thanks for that , that looks about par for the course hihi , can not get to outside london , but printing well at 500 miles ... Thanks for the report, Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Brian gm4jyb" To: "LF reflector" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: LF: psk31 on 503 > 20:50hrs > Just copied the following on 503kHz:-- > > CQ CQ CQ DE...gEnbd g0nbd g0nbd CQO=A6 CQ -E...g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd CQ CQ= =20 > CQ DE...g0nbd g0nbd ggngd k > > Cheers > Brian gm4jyb > IO88hp Dunnet Head > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database:=20 > 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 18:47 > > --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007=20 18:47 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC23-100473311481b1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:38:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC16-100473311481b1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:38:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq7ZO-0001Ye-5N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq7ZN-0001YV-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq7ZH-0008Aw-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071108133632m15009tm1ce>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:36:43 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:36:25 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:36:25 +0000 Message-Id: <110820071336.22884.473310D9000923410000596422058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello Jean-Pierre, Please put the grabber in service again. It is a true benefit to see the signals at once. I believe that it helps and encourages activity on 137kHz. Thanks again for your reports and grabber, it benefits the whole 137kHz community! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF'ers , > > In spring , I stopped my “grabber” 137kHz because I thought that it > harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service > this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you > think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? > Thank you for your answer. > > 73 f1afj > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC41-6db472dc854146; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:25:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC61-6db472dc854146; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:25:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IofTj-00088t-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IofTj-00088k-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IofTh-00039t-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0863BDA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:24:52 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Just checked my Class-E IRF150 amp into load. At 50W output :- Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency = 78% John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-6944742c5c422e; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:32:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB62-6944742c5c422e; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:32:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuRJg-0000zV-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuRJg-0000zM-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuRJc-0007zY-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:55 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108ACDA4D6 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:26:51 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! The new URL is: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk The grabber is at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change the page to announce a move of location. Regards. 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Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-ac1472f5bfe26f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:08:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac1472f5bfe26f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:08:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6MZ-0004fz-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6MZ-0004fq-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6MX-0003Yz-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76724DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:07:42 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105180742.350af925@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.042,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > Lots of QSB at the moment John, but just peaked 539 in IO91PJ. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > Fantastic news Dave! Will leave at 5W until 18:30 then QRP to around 1W or approx 5mW ERP - should give an indication of your own signal strenght? Cheers -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b95473ad0c8149; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:41:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b95473ad0c8149; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:41:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsFfc-0003Ih-Sb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsFfc-0003IY-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsFfa-0000Yy-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so94155nfb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=rUwPhdv+utysfuNocSWjH69pFleVGkKj3blYesZsLxQ=; b=YFOj8q+UJ/gMBnpzbrQDQPK+BLXw3J9yaPaDK/9vhvBJRcK1JcLzQvC/3OF8p1liQVXzf/nZVdSr17tl/fKaWwlnTDVFC186/CKYWW9w9TyV1RCe2gOsYI+U0eeHtKTbAMslDKEFBcW30rwZA0smhUbRozaySvLueLv6d+8RJWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qLKhqvl0J+PRcy7sap/IMuKxl6WlGAvpSa6U9ujFfShG0Z/ghMyq8QbGs0gi2Vqow/Kt3fOO69WAhqZJW0Jfcg/QRM1gTkhH0sWSBFdMdf5ql/TS76uXu8Cqydn0ctmJkBHJS8ZVtgQ3E41dPi5/KCM20HYgFeV53sQ8OddJNPw= Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr7775788hud.1195036816023; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.206.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88d2415e0711140240v20cb205bh9399dd1c396586c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:15 +0000 From: "lawrence mayhead" To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: GI/W QSO on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Perseverance pays off ! Congratulations to both Finbar and Jay. This must be a first. 73 Laurie G3AQC ------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Perseverance pays off !
Congratulations to both Finbar and Jay.
This must be a first.
73 Laurie G3AQC
------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-107472f76652bc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:01:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC23-107472f76652bc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:00:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip87b-0006jm-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip87a-0006jd-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:30 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip87Y-0004BL-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:30 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A8DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:00:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:00:21 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.041,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. Cheers, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi john, LF, > > Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a03472ddb56220; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:46:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03472ddb56220; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:46:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IogkH-0000Z7-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IogkH-0000Yy-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IogkD-0005Lp-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570014D4D8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D68A4D457 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E45B31E703; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D8431E702 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 188EF1A9834; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from 153.71-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (153.71-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.71.153]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20071104154652.7hhjn8vlr734gos4@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.71.153 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Mal, with my 136kHz PA (variant of the G3YXM Class-D push-pull) I get 450W =20 output with 56V/9.5A supply, thus 85% efficiency. I once tried a 50W class-E PA and got over 90% efficiency with correct =20 load (50 Ohm). But the efficiency of the class-E was very sensitive to =20 mismatch and for higher power levels the required values of L,C and =20 supply voltage were rather inconvenient. Regarding components: I use coils wound on a thin PVC former (with =20 sufficient thick wire) and polyprop capacitors. As both in class-D and class-E amplifiers the FET's are used as switch =20 (on/off device) they must be fast enough en have a low on-resistance. =20 The higher the frequency the faster it needs to be. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting hamilton mal : > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. H= as > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is har= d > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ade474deb1173; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:26:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade474deb1173; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxVLh-0008SI-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxVLg-0008S9-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxVLd-0003rk-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1609A3EA0C2 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52113EA0AF for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474DEADD.8080003@online.fr> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:33 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER>, <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Pictures of the WD2XGJ Transmit loop and tuner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you very interesting , Warren 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj K2ORS a =E9crit : > Hello the list, > > I have uploaded photos of the WD2XGJ transmit loop and antenna tuner=20 > to KC3OL's Lowfer Forum: > http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D260 > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC44-109472dcf565a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:55:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC25-109472dcf565a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:55:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IofwG-0008Kp-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IofwF-0008Kg-Pq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IofwB-00053f-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.101] (wan.stanlynet.org?[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <2007110413543911300k7aa7e>; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:54:44 +0000 Message-ID: <472DCF27.5020708@att.net> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:54:47 -0500 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.240,RCVD_IN_SBL=2.712 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 86% efficiency at 400 watts out with GŘMRF amp and MŘBMU mod is what I get. W4DEX, WD2XKO hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-180472e1e50256; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:32:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB24-180472e1e50256; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:32:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolCu-0003ul-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolCu-0003uc-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:28 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolCq-0005RJ-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:27 +0000 X-Trace: 630746525-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAP6sLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 19:32:14 +0000 Message-ID: <01e901c81f19$66fd9f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01>, <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> <472E1B09.14796.2B01635@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:32:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks to John & Dave, Yes it was just a typo. Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO > On 4 Nov 2007 at 19:00, Graham wrote: > >> Mike >> >> Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol >> , >> >> have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. >> >> G .. > > I assume it is a typo, but his callsign is GW4HXO.... > > Peaking 589 in Bracknell. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9fb472b5fc3359; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:35:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb472b5fc3359; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Pz-00065H-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Pz-000658-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0Pw-0005CD-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 99698 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 17:26:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=zwQQQFT8QW7N7cpreAJWt9VjjUcmvzzkQgT+12QRzNv8M/Y2r4fAwlgK2cSEbWPlm/Ucru+GK1eVMYk+bEprFMBdJLAqpwoHbeJgMleTXXTclU3sIA+d0Fa/pwpanDrDxk+RRcNqvoTpAlU879NdHFkANYKwdCJXamSCaV1xUxQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.155.2 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 17:26:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pWyZ.AIVM1mMAkTEIMDhSjJ8uhCtttni5QBlvoWNV.vLOPCzAcj2ezUyWt5lYey_od1dkkyjPg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:26:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <1194023217.472b593135b72@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : GI4PDN is now in 5 wpm CW beacon mode on 501.555 kHz at the moment. Peaking 549 is QSB 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: 02 November 2007 17:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9d0473f5f5e105; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:38:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0473f5f5e105; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:38:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVN0-0005f9-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVMz-0005ez-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:29 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVMx-0000Fz-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:29 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609CBDA4D9 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:37:58 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117213758.69a9b302@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you > need select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in > mmtty , he is dead center on 503.6 > Thanks Graham.... so that's what narrow shift RTTY sounds like.., I'll try to decode some now I know. Looks probable given the audible strength of it. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-e1473364b5183; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:34:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e1473364b5183; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:34:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqD7V-00030h-0N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqD7T-00030Y-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:51 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqD7M-0004wt-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:48 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Nov 2007 19:32:38 -0000 Received: from p54854FE5.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.79.229] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2007 20:32:38 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18H3oIfrUAHuuzKtoPGd05LdT1E1IiKPeUUeG39n/ b7XCAxfTMxeJjj Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:32:36 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <643983103.20071108203236@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz 7/8 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good copy of UA4WPF, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9b2474ca02efc; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:54:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME046-9b2474ca02efc; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:54:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix9Jr-0005uh-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix9Jq-0005uY-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix9Jn-0001Nu-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:18 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798EBDA4D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071127225408.08c018a6@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.038,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b7d473c37172a1; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:10:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d473c37172a1; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:10:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdXQ-0007LJ-U6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdXQ-0007L4-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net ([212.159.14.214]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsdXN-0000ty-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1IsdWw-0004YY-UW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c82780$548be2d0$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:07:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Careful ... the legislators may take you seriously ! But certainly the available bandwidth at lower frequencies needs to be widened to allow widespread use of phone on the 136kHz band. Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: LF: A bit of light reading > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC33-1dc4736b8a472; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:09:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC56-1dc4736b8a472; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:09:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir7s7-0000WO-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir7s6-0000WF-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir7s2-0004M6-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22E83EA0CE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740A3EA0BD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736B872.4000600@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor , Victor van Kooten a =E9crit : > Received XGJ and traces at 137.775 KHz > =20 It this WD2XKO , visible 22:45 to 08:00 utc plse look on my grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ae7472e3f0e2a7; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:52:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae7472e3f0e2a7; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:52:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IonNe-0005h6-4u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IonNd-0005gx-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:41 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IonNZ-0002VW-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:41 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hq8sTHCKtyHil07eu4VpD82m+IZKAorRPp1KZY60xfaQzX9r7dJKB4K0i88cFjdB; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.41.23.54] (helo=kd4wov7) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IonN7-0004z3-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:51:09 -0500 From: "kd4wov" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <00d701c81f22$3a529960$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b09aaeb6c53fc49d7b52c055193c7c9de2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Wow, so you are able to use this class of amps in AM service? Do these amps require additional filtering for harmonics? de kd4wov -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 15:35 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E I run voltage-mode class D amplifiers (400 watts) on 137 and 505 as well as PDM modulated current-mode class D AM transmitters on 160 and 75 meters (375 watt carrier). Efficiency in all cases is in the low 90s. The best I've been able to achieve on 40 meters is 90%. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: LF: CLASS D and E > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9544744770fa2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:21:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-9544744770fa2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:21:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuBA-00066k-HA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuBA-00066b-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuuB4-0004S5-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393051EF8DE5 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id vyxty5z2ATip for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi96.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.101]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 919361EF8C1B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01c82c6b$14dcda00$6511f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev><20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local><003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev><20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com><000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> <20071121144308.6bbd059b@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:19:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Although mainly HF focused, there is an excellent online discussion / forum on class-e transmitters that some may find of interest : http://classe.monkeypuppet.com/viewforum.php?f=1 Steve / VE7SL Mayne Island, B.C. Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-97e472ec70f125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:33:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e472ec70f125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:32:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IowRZ-00030Y-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IowRZ-00030P-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IowRU-0000Xt-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:20 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0B73EA0CC for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:32:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2513EA0B8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:32:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:32:15 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.148 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ, WD2XES , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ, WD2XES , WD2XKO ( Three beacons, great happiness ! ) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( sorry Joe , nothing here ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9034735852615f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:17:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034735852615f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:17:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqnOE-0003tJ-4q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqnOD-0003t3-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:33 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqnO9-0003bY-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:33 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:24 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:23 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01c82382$b7938c40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2007 10:16:23.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF116CD0:01C82382] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj1011.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01C8238B.193F8A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40" ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj time 22:30-07:30 henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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b=IQe3PhWETBiScgkirliM/Rdm4Fyf9mIq4dAdOKrVu8Tk8a69PwAXVjT34NOgSWfTTRdHq/41ts7QxEZqe1SnykVnodlrkRKqFRioVPPy3zBeG3HrQGCAtu5Ls+Qy6rLudHymxJqK4h667XjMEij2b7K3YtCUHsrccKkpVYR/fKk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.151.253.175 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 19:05:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uTcMNZsVM1kknVNpJnLIblSwTVgdyTdQmWRqZUmauNMBcAeccM1GDyzGPqMzJUahNoDJ62uS8Z43Y1PqZZOLYfmqMjehTpmYFJ1UaI9TxUuCHyzz From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:05:55 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Useful web page... http://www.sparkmuseum.com/BEGINS_RADIO.HTM ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 03 November 2007 18:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > a mode that noone else bothers about. Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-19d473c1c9e246; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB53-19d473c1c9e246; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbmD-0006nQ-2A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbmC-0006nH-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isbm9-0006wb-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDC43EA0EE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69E73EA10E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473C1C8C.6070504@online.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : The noise this night was rather low , not noted a difference with the other nights ! but still not of traces of VO1NA. The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-9644731c66b202; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:06:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF062-9644731c66b202; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:06:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IplXL-00053K-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IplXK-00053B-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IplXG-0005ao-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612383EA0FC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:05:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EA33EA0BD for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:05:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C631.7090907@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:05:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.144 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jay , Tnx for info , you are 400w in the 100' Marconi antenna . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1AFJ Jay Rusgrove a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre > > Thank you for the captures! Yes, XNS is running 400 watts transmitter powe= r. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite > > > Hello Warren and all , > > Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! > whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! > Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to > compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay > what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was > high +10dB. > > the captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > =20 >> Hello the list... >> >> Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. >> Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: >> http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm >> >> >> =20 > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-965473c257e394; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-965473c257e394; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IscLn-0006xU-49 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IscLm-0006xL-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.161] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IscLe-00075S-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00342B39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:17 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,5539d91c80f3085c,9e4775dee6d89887,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:69:355:379:481:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:967:969:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2393:2525:2551:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2741:2828:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3873: 3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250:4321:5007:6119:7576:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m75-mp2.cvx2-a.man.dial.ntli.net [62.252.208.75]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <00e001c82775$ba02c620$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0@fwd31.t-online.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:52:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.429 Subject: LF: Re: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Ha-jo You went qrt too early and missed all the action. I had a QSO with VE1ZZ at 0117utc I was on 502.5 khz and VE1ZZ 3534 khz. Good copy in both directions. This past few days propagation has been good on 500 khz and I heard WD2XSH/17 at 559 on 505.65 khz after my qso. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "LF Group RSGB" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: LF: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 > schrieb: > > Ha-Jo, > > > > Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. > > WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. > > > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > Dear Warren, > > I have listened around 506,5 kHz and 507 kHz last night and this night > until 00.10 UTC but heard nil, sri, just a beacon "Z" on 507,1 kHz. > > I guess I should have been located at the coast of western Europe to > hear WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6. > > Even on GM4SLV's grabber I have seen just a few dots on 507 kHz. > > But heard GI4PDE beaconing with interruptions around 23.52 UTC on 501,4 > kHz, RST 579 with QSB. > > And at 00.23 UTC I heard G3KEV calling VE1ZZ on 502,6 kHz, RST 569 but > also with deep QSB. > > Already around 16.00 UTC I heard G3KEV with good signal in QSO with > GM4SLV, but at this time his signal has had a rather long QSB period. > GM4SLV remained unheard, but I have got that he has repaired his MF > aerial. > > Now, at 00.30 UTC, I go to bed. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria. > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > > > Dear all, > > > > > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > > > contact started at > > > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > > > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > > > told him I would wait. > > > > > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > > > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > > > which he sent to F2JB. > > > > > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > > > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > > > became almost unreadible. > > > > > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > > > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > > > > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a86474b1e1b1e9; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:27:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a86474b1e1b1e9; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:27:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjb8-0001zG-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjb7-0001z7-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:25 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwjb5-0007VS-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB09C4E4859 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NeB7BZ7e2Ydb for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0144E4637 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:26:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV_grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo John! Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks! 73 and GL on 500kHz! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo John!

Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks!<= /o:p>

 

73 and GL on 500kHz!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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11 Nov 2007 10:07:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 09:07:41.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[50670770:01C82442] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj11-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C8244A.A83A1DE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair 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31EBD1C00086 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:45:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071121104600204.31EBD1C00086@mwinf2124.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711211103410658.0F6D772B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:03:41 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.198 Subject: RE: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n As I live in a winegrowing area, I can see that I shall have to add yet anot= her major project to my extensive list. 73,=20 John F5VLF (Central Burgundy) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 20/11/2007 at 19:15 Dave G3WCB wrote: >Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the red variety for dipping the Weller bit >in... > >http://www.wireless.org.uk/gallery/gallerlf.htm > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of G4gvw@aol.com > Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website > > > Looks good John! > > What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering >bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is >this a continuing work in progress? > > > > > 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx > Qth near Felixstowe, UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8a5472f367b326; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:28:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a5472f367b326; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3rc-0001dv-2K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3rb-0001dm-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.233] helo=smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3rX-0007Q9-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 27939 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 15:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2007 15:26:49 -0000 Message-ID: <472F3650.9000100@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:12 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110520071454.7391.472F2EA4000B66D600001CDF22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110520071454.7391.472F2EA4000B66D600001CDF22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XES et al Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren, His sunrise now is at 2247 UTC, and sunset at 1050 UTC. So he presently has a common-darkness window on one path to us for about an hour and 10 minutes after our sunset, and on the other path for about 35 minutes before our sunrise. Alan will chime in at this point and remind us that darkness approaching the "skip" points is the real key, and the windows will thus be greater. John A. k2ors@comcast.net wrote: > What UTC time is your dawn? I shut down WD2XGJ at 07:00 UTC last night. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB024-ab6472f3ed0345; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:03:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab6472f3ed0345; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:03:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4Pt-0002HR-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4Ps-0002HI-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip4Po-0002we-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:08 +0000 X-Trace: 622249042-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIPNLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQPg Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 16:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <010401c81fc5$54bd9c70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:02:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.201 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Jim, I would also like a copy, thank you. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92b473aad06305; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:08:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b473aad06305; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:08:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDHh-0002dQ-4x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDHg-0002dH-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:40 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDHd-000193-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:40 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c33.1ca358fd (60442) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from AmiloMarkus (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD033-ec1a473aacbb2db; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nighttime background noise here. They we= nt off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for good... 73 Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation bot= h indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else noti= ced this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nightti= me=20 background noise here. They went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for=20 good...
 
73 Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11= :54=20 PM
Subject: LF: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk=20 modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the=20 source. Anyone else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b684734f40412b; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:58:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD032-b684734f40412b; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:57:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqdjF-0001zM-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqdjE-0001zD-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:36 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqdjA-0008DA-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:36 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA9NvMb2030778 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:22 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA9NvLbL008676 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:21 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA9NvL7V023666; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:21 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:20 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007a01c8231a$0dc81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <007a01c8231a$0dc81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Group, Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, we get an allocation below 200 metres. See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ for more info. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.144]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1b3473179a3337; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:39:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC15-1b3473179a3337; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:39:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgR7-00033d-M0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgR7-00033U-8G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgR3-0004Aq-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A1B3EA0E1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:38:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8A93EA0E2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:38:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47317984.9090401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:38:28 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was=20 high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-a28473aaf4215e; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:18:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a28473aaf4215e; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:18:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDRi-0002oK-2d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDRh-0002oB-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDRd-0001BU-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1C93EA0DF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083513EA0F7 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AAF34.7080808@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:56 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( 23:30 , I believed one moment there! but not it was not it! ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-18747508da738b; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB31-18747508da738b; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEHa-0005bh-8t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEHZ-0005bY-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:25 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyEHW-00073I-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:25 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K4GV1Y00D1HzFnQ050d000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KAQA1Y00G2Uxt080300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:15 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6Dv6ogbuV97VzH9HnAUA:9 a=4juST8Ek4FrAB-uJ8wLplMUMWnUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=zbl8RoLLpRIA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.134,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 137 - XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? WOW Tnx Gary! Gud Cndx tonite! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: LF: 137 - XGJ > Hi LF, > > XGJ captured at 2212utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b624739da71129; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:10:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624739da71129; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:10:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrzGS-00012c-VQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrzGS-00012T-JN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrzGO-00017k-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 44562 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 17:00:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 17:00:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VNjUNqwVM1kgAuMvxsbiR5y8xRPVbMRylL1SRyv.xglJYoeCygv3IIbbTpIwdajkXN76ePMbsU9sm8ZmwQFTqr1pWXkL6P28bKyLUcx4tUHCW47A From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4739D83A.28181.2400FDC@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 13 Nov 2007 at 17:50, John RABSON wrote: > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or > EIRP? >From my NOV: "a peak effective radiated power not exceeding -10dbW" ie 100mW ERP 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-ab147317c591ef; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:50:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB027-ab147317c591ef; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:50:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgbO-0003Mf-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgbM-0003MW-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:32 +0000 Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgbF-0004Ic-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:29 +0000 Received: from mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.36]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536224AE43 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689AA6BD42 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-072-159-034.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.159.34]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A20B1C36A1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001201c8211b$115adc20$14b2a8c0@edgar1ew1re1zt> From: "dl2hre" To: References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:49:09 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4691/Wed Nov 7 06:39:41 2007 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gm Waren, LF in the morning 06.11.07 at 0001utc i worked Finbar GI4DPE X-band 3533KHz/501.3KHz, he was 579 here. after that QSO Jack VE1ZZ was clg Finbar on 3533KHz, they had a really nice 2-way cw X-band QSO! 73 GL Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "rsgb" Cc: "hamilton mal" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE > Hi Mal, > > I spoke to Jack VE1ZZ about two weeks ago on 160 meters - he said that > he heard an Irish station running .1W ERP (perhaps Finbar?) on 500kHz on > 19 different occasions to that point. > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "hamilton mal" >> I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in >> VE. >> There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband >> 3533 >> and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. >> The mode is CW >> De Mal/G3KEV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6S-0001N4-1y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6Q-0001Mv-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: from rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com ([124.108.96.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixg6K-0002Bs-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 75839 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from 124.108.96.73 by rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:54:20 -0800 Received: (qmail 47962 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sooby.xtra.co.nz) (bjhayes@xtra.co.nz@219.88.52.234 with login) by smtp104.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 09:54:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: P3LZPdQVM1mizQkLy4rT0BCKc7gSXFuNaXwzp3XDyJC.swFZuoAKV67aLf3lv7v4YQ-- Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:51:50 +1300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi JB, I remember comments on a similar situation from an old QST. In June 1977, Barry Boothe W9UCW recounts his success. His "Beverage" was half a mile long, on insulators, three barbed wires above and three below, steel poles, and the wire was 18/24 inches above ground. He terminated it by connecting it to the barbed wires at the far end. In fact, it was an out-of-season use for his electric fence - the horses were in the barn for the winter. Barry commented that it worked extra well and was the most directional Beverage he had ever used [on 160m.]. Your proposed wire along the top looks better than Barry's which was half-way down the fence. In passing, his "hot" wire was No.16 galvanised steel. Good luck. 73, Kevin, ZL4MD >My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts >to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a >thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out >of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about >eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? > >The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal >wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced >about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and >it appears to be galvanised steel. There is no intentional grounding of >the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch >the ground. > >Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a724747f34d2a3; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA062-a724747f34d2a3; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:47:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ivrbs-0005KC-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ivrbs-0005K3-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivrbp-0004os-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE9D3EA107 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AC3EA11C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b654735dd44351; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:33:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b654735dd44351; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:33:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtFU-0004sh-1f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtFT-0004sY-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:55 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqtFP-000654-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 47605 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2007 16:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 16:31:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MR_AWa8VM1nFOxx2b7cRQSj3uz2PU1mYYSn8MIBJ4N41JeC7tHYGG4wNfpIOPIcFAD38Z7N1UaieZmne78kUzSNNwQ541tctDF9nlNxREl8YNWxojpMYZNg2qR8- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Not sure if you were using the new arrangement last night Gary, but you were a good signal, 579ish, down here in Bracknell. Not that much weaker than the G0MRF beacon which you were somewhat underneath. As to the website, no real comments except that the picture of the new arrangement (image13952.jpg) is not very clear and you can't easily read the text. Probably you have resized it from a larger image and lost resolution. And on that subject, your two pictures at the bottom are HUGE (600kb and 213kb), you should resize them to be much smaller. I see it is done in Serif, which I understand is a publishing package and not the best for html, which shows. There is a lot of redundant code and all the absolute positioning makes it very hard to follow the source. But apart from that, it looks fine... 73 Dave G3YMC On 10 Nov 2007 at 15:32, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi All at LF, > > As you probably know by now (because I have mentioned it often) I have > quite a small back garden. I have continually strived to improve the > LF/MF antenna with this limitation & to keep on the right side of Mrs > T. > > The most recent "improvements" have been carried out & installed, > latest details at :- > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page19.html > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres > high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to > show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the > original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite > promising. > > I have also revamped the appearence of my web site & updated some > pages, please have a look & report any problems or make comments etc. > Web site home page address at the bottom. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ > Web site updated 10/11/2007 > > > > > > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b58473cd4071b8; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:19:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58473cd4071b8; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:19:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isnz3-0000Wp-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isnz2-0000Wg-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:52 +0000 Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isnyv-0001UL-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DAiT1Y00A0x6nqc0A04h00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:41 +0000 Received: from amailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.225.116]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DBJg1Y00R2XJQGC0800000; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OWqx2tXac2bRbuq8N8Wl9g==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=vVyjDKry3uXyanMLiKwA:9 a=wnb4xkQqW0PJ4gLQH0KjMy67wSoA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Received: from [65.196.126.5] by amailcenter16.comcast.net; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:36 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:36 +0000 Message-Id: <111520072318.29699.473CD3CC000CF0330000740322155863949C9D01CD05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: azJvcnNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ QRT Tonight Storms X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list... No operation of WD2XGJ this night due to storms. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a98472f2dd11ab; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98472f2dd11ab; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:50:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3Ht-0000u9-3y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3Hs-0000u0-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:48 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3Ho-0002an-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:48 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105145037m1500a0h2ve>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:50:38 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:36 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "henny van elst" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:36 +0000 Message-Id: <110520071450.2757.472F2DBC0006B28C00000AC522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.423,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511xgj xes.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Thanks for the report and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj and xes > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-aa44738d392c1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:28:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB012-aa44738d392c1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:28:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhka-0006Ed-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhka-0006EU-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrhkY-0003vz-Qe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F07DA53A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:26:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:26:55 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071112222655.1782ebac@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: Extended Grabber range Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF With the current good conditions for transatlantic signals I've extended the frequency coverage of the grabber. It now covers from 501 to 508kHz. The AR7030 has a 9.5kHz IF filter which seems to work nicely. The DI beacon area around 505 is rather crowded and our part of the spectrum is squashed into a smaller space but there's a chance now to view the W beacons around 505-508. I can still see David G0MRF's beacon on 503.7. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b47473b01b727; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:10:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC103-b47473b01b727; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:10:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIvz-0003wL-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIvy-0003wC-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsIvw-0007wv-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:38 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F9EDA4D9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:07 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello FL, Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending "WC WC" ? Just noticed it on the grabber and can hear it reasonably well by ear. Seems to be fading up in strength at 14:00 UTC John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dY-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dP-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InkWo-0007Ii-Sj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F09027000082 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BE8157000081 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102003624780.BE8157000081@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <008201c81ce8$6d0d7cd0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:36:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Dear Chris, Graham, LF Group, > > Thanks to G3XIZ earlier this evening for a nice RTTY QSO on 503.5kHz. I > used > MMTTY with 85Hz shift, and everything worked fine - mind you, Chris is not > far from me, and is a good 599 signal. > > I am currently (2310utc) sending some test calls on 503.5kHz in PSK31 > using > G3PLX's Windows software - any reports/QSOs welcome. > > >> Hi Jim, >> >> >> >> Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? >> >> >> >> As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , >> looks >> like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty > has >> that option >> > The driver is an IC 718 transmitting on 4.50x MHz in LSB mode, connected > to > the PC sound card in the usual way for data operation. So the bandwidth is > about 2.7kHz, although I would not want to use it all! The HF output is > mixed down to 500 kHz with a 4MHz crystal, and also fed to a simple diode > envelope detector to recover the modulation envelope. The 500kHz output is > filtered and amplified linearly to about +13dBm, then applied to a > limiting > amplifier to give a square wave "clock" signal for the class D output > stage > with the amplitude modulation stripped off, but retaining the frequency > and > phase information. The envelope detector output is used as a reference > voltage for a series regulator feeding the DC power to the class D PA, so > the DC supply voltage is modulated with the envelope of the original > signal. > The result is the output of the class D PA looking pretty close to the > original modulated signal. On receive, the signal path is reversed, and > the > incoming signal mixed up to 4.5MHz for reception by the IC718. > > I have been looking at the software on NL9222's extensive download site, > there seems to be a number of feasible modes there that might be worth > trying - I will try installing some over the next few days. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Ok Jim, Thanks for that , Is this a published dsesign or your own ? , Ive added a page to the 'ng' http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Looks like a few stations are intrested in this , may be you can add any links or data to the page ? what you describe looks to fit with the general descriptions of the 'mode' , Q, do you have any problem with the 'envalope = zero' issue ? I can see your signal at the moment (00-30 hrs) but its too low to print . looks like a good signal at Bham , dont know about 'rtty' think we should call it 'skippy' hih , I did see a stronger signal earlly on, which may of printed .. If your about , friday night , I will rig the tx up , see if we can do anything , early in the evening , after sunset is usually the best signals from london area ? G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b23472ae768396; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:01:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC057-b23472ae768396; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:01:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InsOz-00042E-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InsOy-000425-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:16 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InsOt-0003gy-17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAEFDA4D8 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:00:53 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Good point's john . Thanks Graham, This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my location! >>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles >>to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with >>seeming >>ease. > But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip > distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission > losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the > skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation > for semi local stations > I was initially directing my "more power" point to stations like Dave G3YMC who complain that they hear the "DX" stations like myself yet fail to heard by those same stations. This isn't a question of extending the ground-wave signal further into the "skip-zone" it's a question of radiating a similar level of power than the remote station that you're already hearing and who is obviously therefore in "skip range". The question of how much TX power is necessary needs to be addressed by each station individually due to differences in antenna efficiencies. To say "5W" or "10W" or "25W" is "enough to generate 100mW" is plain wrong. The power needed is just that - "the power needed" - whether it be 5W or 200W. On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the effect of differing local noise floors! As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky enough to be able to try these things ;-) All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, even in daytime. > > For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , > 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) > reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. Conversely, my AR7030, even with a wideband 4kHz IF filter to feed the grabber, shows no S-meter deflection in the daytime. With a narrow 300Hz CW filter I can even use 30dB of extra RF pre-amplification to good effect to pull out the likes of G3UNT from the noise. Brian runs (I think) quite modest power yet is audible 24/7 here. Have a listen to what he sounds like with 10Hz filter in at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/g3kev_g3unt_clip_22_09_07.mp3 This was recorded at 10:25UTC on 22 Sept. >>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate >>highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to >>do so.<<< > 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach > something in the region of 100mW , I agree. That's what I use to get 100mW ERP. However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's doubly handicapped:- Low TX power and poor efficiency. It's a simple equation..... If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. One good thing about the OFCOM power limit being in terms of ERP and not TX power is it should allow a level playing field, with everyone being prepared to engineer their systems appropriately to meet the limit, unless specifically interested in much lower ERPs for some other reason. I'd much rather (and I have) bite the bullet, build a bigger TX and try to at least comfortably reach the 100mW ERP limit, after all 100mW is tiny enough, but to purposefully restrict yourself further seems pointless if your aim is aural, manual CW QSOs. We need to make QSOs while we have access to the band. A log book full of "called CQ, no reply" or "called GM4SLV, no reply" is of little scientific value, or emotional value, as is a log book full of "worked GxXXX again. RST599 as always, but then he's only 10 miles away" We need to push the boat out now and put out as good a signal as possible to get some work done on the band while we've got it. If it takes a 200W TX then do it! > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense > of the word .. > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna producing them. The limiting factor is S/N ratio. Overcome the noise and you'll be heard, assuming there's some propagation path. In Dave's case I'd say that if can hear a station then there obviously is a path. The answer, I'm afraid, is "More Power Igor!" -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-96c4738fdfd308; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4738fdfd308; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irka4-0006u9-4K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irka3-0006u0-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:43 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrkZl-0005vP-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:43 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAD1Qmor025094 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:13 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAD1Q3bL023683 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:56:13 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAD1PqnW027240; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:52 -0330 (NST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:51 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: LF Group RSGB In-Reply-To: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: -1000: wpbl.blocklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600m in VO land Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The following were heard tonight near 507 kHz with perfectly readable CW signals: WE2XGR/6 /1 and /2. The aerial was a 525' Beverage. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae4472cc4ac36c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:57:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae4472cc4ac36c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:57:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOBl-0006A5-Fg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOBk-00069w-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:44 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOBg-0002cv-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:44 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:35 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c81e4b$5ec5f030$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2007 18:57:34.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[653BFDB0:01C81E4B] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wpf0211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of wpf? 73s henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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JgDzML7tZY83FhKLQfTnGYU0cXZusTVestoI9Km1hxaJabNR9iIBsUX6OP8AL//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b0e472c9f0d3d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e472c9f0d3d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:17:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLgH-0004Fw-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLgG-0004Fn-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:17:04 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) 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<00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: >> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii >> ... > > > G .. > Hi Graham MMTTY go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz 73, peter, sq7mpj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0647336e5f200; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:15:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG038-a0647336e5f200; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:15:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDlK-0003N9-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDlH-0003N0-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:00 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDlC-0005Id-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:13:57 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AF2C3BB1281 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:13:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.248.195.152] by freemailng1808.web.de with HTTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:13:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:13:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1711396917@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18fVfYJy0/D5W4GGY8WoMuHvasPGJfKgzkniQwzNhYTR5Ifx EOWAGl0gPM7O2+n14ffo5mcGcuzKXq/zfZaAxd3wDkgxVMLnhI= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Jim, please be so kind to send me a copy of Your articlae. 55, Hans-Albrecht > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 05.11.07 15:22:27 > An: > Betreff: LF: LF/MF EER transverter >=20 > Dear LF Group, >=20 > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to se= e > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately >=20 > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU >=20 >=20 >=20 _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=3D100071&distributionid=3D000000000066 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.147]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1d547457f60304; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:09:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC49-1d547457f60304; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:08:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBn2-00016z-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBn2-00016q-Ee for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19] helo=mailout06.sul.t-online.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBmy-0003Li-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IvBmx-0004Tz-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:08:15 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (bKDRQBZpghy3KJrFzwZNHmGcmF81pjDopPuIFeYJElrmWfBgl-E0fvQhZv4njVAQPh@[217.95.104.88]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IvBlg-0b2NQO0; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:06:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 22 Nov 2007 12:59 GMT Message-ID: <1IvBlg-0b2NQO0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: bKDRQBZpghy3KJrFzwZNHmGcmF81pjDopPuIFeYJElrmWfBgl-E0fvQhZv4njVAQPh X-TOI-MSGID: 8a3f6676-49c6-4bbc-8f58-66434b014755 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.055,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, as a radio operator in the maritime service I had used QSW, but never QTV. But the website http://life.itu.ch/radioclub/rr/frr.htm (look for Phone Code & Q-Code) gave me the answer. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Peter Dodd" schrieb: > > That made things so much clearer! > > Peter, G3LDO > > Laurence KL1X wrote: > > > > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > > suggest you peruse.... > > > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf > > > > Laurence KL1 X > > QTU 24 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at > > > times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what > > MF QRG I > > > am transmitting on > > > I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX > > freq to > > > avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all > > bands, the > > > normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG > > > otherwise I might not hear you. > > > > > > 73 De Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now! > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac8473f662b206; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:08:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB056-ac8473f662b206; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp8-0006Iy-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp7-0006Ip-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:33 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVp4-00067v-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1DAB71C00085 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:07:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.156]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id AC0831C00084 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:07:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071117220724704.AC0831C00084@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c82966$42cfb250$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Gary Note , in MMTTY there is the option of 45 baud , or 45.45 baud ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi John, > > If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you can > change that parameter so no problem. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > > >> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 >> "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. >>> >> >> >> How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? >> >> I was intially set at 45.45Bd... >> >> Will try again at 45 >> -- >> John GM4SLV >> IP90gg >> Clousta, Shetland >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aea473ab66f1a4; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea473ab66f1a4; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDvE-0002x8-E3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDvD-0002wz-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDvA-0008BO-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7973EA0E1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B31E3EA107 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AB65A.40904@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> In-Reply-To: <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov - DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Markus , Alan and Mike , Here, on the antenna which is in your direction (K9AY) I do not see anything abnormal , but I am further (JN06HT)! to see the screen printing with :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Capt_12.jpg 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Markus Vester a =E9crit : > Hi Mike and Alan, > > I believe Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of=20 > the band actually do come from DCF39. > > Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transradio solid state=20 > transmitter, which unfortunately appears to have much less efficient=20 > modulation waveform shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and=20 > has come on for a few hours from time to time. This is also the reason=20 > for the different reported idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before,=20 > 138830.6 Hz now). > > There is a grabber shot on=20 > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands_070404.png which=20 > shows the difference of the spectral characteristics. Especially in=20 > quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to about=20 > 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been=20 > in contact with a person at the German regulatory body=20 > "Bundesnetzagentur", who was involved in the on-site acceptance=20 > testing. He was quite understanding and helpful, but basically said=20 > that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed to be within the=20 > prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enforce a=20 > reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions. > > Due to the modulation characteristics there are however a few spectral=20 > gaps in the sidebands which could be useful to us. The appended plot=20 > shows a spectrogram between 137.5 and 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies=20 > above 135.5 kHz zero beat). The vertical streaks show visible minima at > 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 2273 Hz), > 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and > 137.560 to 137.575 kHz. > One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA=20 > (currently ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps.=20 > Before we decide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know=20 > how much others in the LF group are affected. > > 73 and best wishes > Markus, DF6NM > > PS: A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's=20 > test signal? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > > > > Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy > > (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and=20 > shifts > > "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. > > Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter=20 > since then, > > but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. > > > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Dennison" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM > > Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > > > >> I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off > >> the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make > >> CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which > >> makes QRSS harder. > >> > >> Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to > >> 30s slow) : > >> > >> 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) > >> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' > >> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' > >> > >> Very noisy overnight. > >> > >> Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. > >> Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know > >> if this frequency causes anyone a problem. > >> > >> de Mike, G3XDV > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9e3473c7df828e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:12:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e3473c7df828e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:12:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsiDu-0008Os-7E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsiDq-0008Oj-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:47 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsiDk-0006ch-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B90077E04E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <473C7D4F.4060607@telia.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:09:35 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal, it is quite strong here in southern SM too. 73 Johan SM6LKM hamilton mal skrev: > Hi all > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the > time, and vy strong at times. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0a4740501639; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:45:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4740501639; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:45:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlOE-0002Ay-1I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlOD-0002Ap-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlOB-0001qK-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:49 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F21DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:40 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118144440.2e08651d@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > Much better than last night! Q(!h6XDFBQ NP???hYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 2007-NOV-18 14:39 UTC TESTING DE G4WGT G WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING THE QUICK BROWM FOX JUMPS OVER THENLAZY DOG TSTINV DW GGWGONPJRZ931WGT Still some errors but better. Using MTTY on Win98SE -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mail.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.147]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-124472f58e138; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:02:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC52-124472f58e138; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:54:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip69L-0004J5-Cj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip69K-0004Iw-TX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip69H-0003UK-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 55041 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.153.196.176 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wNJ3W48VM1mhecqgEBSi4CKEi.N5e60AOwYUGvFhai6iWVjkSDrT32i.JpBbsJYVKZZr_uKxnzQ4O5_vlQFcm7Rz8qEQXzMBWbSZA9n0NJ9f9SHJ7JIzVhAVQUzksOSeTsA- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Lots of QSB at the moment John, but just peaked 539 in IO91PJ. 73 Dave G3YMC On 5 Nov 2007 at 17:14, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > Hello LF, > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW > ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the > really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who > can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon > using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. > > > > Cheers, > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b1d47459501147; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:41:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d47459501147; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDER-0001ih-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDEQ-0001iY-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:42 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDEM-0003FB-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:42 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAMEcf84030585 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:41 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAMEcSbL020928 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:28 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAMEcSd6023162; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:28 -0330 (NST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:27 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi J-P, group, Yes, there is a weak trace! This is encouraging news. Congrats! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > VO1NA : trace at 06:00 utc ( first dash ! synchro ok , frequency ok , dura= tion 9mn ok ) see 141.jpg picture > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f6472e0efe2fd; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f6472e0efe2fd; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:27:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IokBa-0002mC-N1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IokBa-0002m3-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IokBX-00087u-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 X-Trace: 630726754-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIadLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:26:32 +0000 Message-ID: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:26:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014E_01C81F10.390955B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_014E_01C81F10.390955B0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, LF, Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. 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Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 28 Nov 2007 at 9:32, WE0H wrote: > http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php > > New forum for anything you want to say about LF &/or MF operating, > equipment, whatever is on your mind. Put it in threads so no more > digging through a gazillion email's reflected... If you have a decent email program it can also sort them nicely into threads, and will also have an excellent search funcion. Pegasus Mail does the job very nicely for me. Forums suit some people, email reflectors others, don't want to get into that argument again... Won't be joining the forum at least at the moment myself as not currently on 136/500. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b5c474051c8173; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:53:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c474051c8173; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:52:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlVt-0002Gf-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlVt-0002GW-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlVo-0001FH-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EEJG1Y0050mlR8U0A02E00; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:16 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EEsA1Y00C2Uxt080800000; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=N709r95ARL7U6jK96C8A:9 a=9AlDVHlJ8BVJqvgzrD7H0XY4zS8A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <5F96F89AD73D461D86775EA08E752167@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:51:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and captures! Your 'grabber' is a great service to thr LF hams! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:19 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9cd47311454142; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:27:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd47311454142; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:26:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZgd-0001jy-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZgc-0001jp-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:30 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZgZ-00012A-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:30 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d4e.16de37f3 (42805) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:26:18 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:26:17 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194398777" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194398777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/11/2007 00:54:23 GMT Standard Time, k2ors@comcast.net writes: Your Miniwhip is working very well Yup, they usually do. Just think of all those antennas built with a "standard" 1 metre whip..... all that wasted metal.... all that wasted space.... all that wasted time......sigh!! Roelof, you really should be ashamed of yourself:-) Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1194398777 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/11/2007 00:54:23 GMT Standard Time, k2ors@comcast= .net=20 writes:
Your=20 Miniwhip is working very well
Yup, they usually do.
 
Just think of all those antennas built with a "standard" 1 me= tre=20 whip.....
all that wasted metal....
all that wasted space....
all that wasted time......sigh!!
 
Roelof, you really should be ashamed of yourself:-)
 
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1194398777-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-979472f48933bf; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-979472f48933bf; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:45:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip54M-0002xc-JD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip54M-0002xT-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:58 +0000 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip54I-0003AU-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:57 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ip54H-0008NY-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:53 +0000 Received: from [82.40.42.71] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ip54F-0002mg-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:52 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <007e01c81fcb$2f829bd0$6401a8c0@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:44:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Me too please Jim Thanks Mark GM4ISM Just blown up my exciter :<(( ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.21/1109 - Release Date: > 04/11/2007 11:05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1111 - Release Date: 05/11/2007 04:36 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b81474886a4218; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:16:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD063-b81474886a4218; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:16:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw1QM-00067p-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw1QL-00067g-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:21 +0000 Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.56]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iw1QH-00083l-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GhHH1Y00817UAYk0A0Be00; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:13 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkG71Y0042Uxt080800000; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gSeL0x-DWyAA:10 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=h5QID5vJ-CzzpznmGdkA:9 a=VDczxQJSNS-x3Bu0WfqvlaLqnrIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <52A6D5D666884CA8ABB8B6CE1EABC8E4@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:15:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre, Henny, Thank you for the reports and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b084730727c46; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:56:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b084730727c46; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:56:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpOu1-00080q-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpOu0-00080h-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpOtx-000314-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 334181C00084 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:55:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.229]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D13B81C00088 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:55:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071106135527857.D13B81C00088@mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004301c8207c$b17be720$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:55:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Alan, .. Thats the point , >>>>(((((Note that it is not a 50% squarewave)))). Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs=20 > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies.<<<< Its a good system , I was noting a lot of 'posts' referring to , P=3DI*V , , even if it was a 1= :1=20 square wave, you would still need either a form factor , or better still , a= =20 'true rms' meter . to make the final measurement , assuming it has=20 sufficient bandwidth , A scope with a floating differential input , measuring across a very low=20 'passive' resistance would do the trick .. .. Its a bit like measuring the peak power out of a ssb set , do you measure=20 the peak envalope power , by peak votatage and calculate the power and then=20 mult by 0.707 to get the rms level .or just take the peak ... or just dont=20 ask ? Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? > Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked > at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the=20 > choke > is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when > it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The=20 > choke > tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is > what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt=20 > cap > are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current,=20 > so > the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show > "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs=20 > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc > feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's=20 > , > past P =3D I*V ? > > Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing > 'spurious side bands' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx.=20 > The > output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 > pole LPF. > For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good > calibrated scope and a quality DL > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more=20 > like > a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to > get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally > measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a > issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on=20 > the > leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area=20 > under > the curve' ? > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Hi all >> Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work >> out. How are the % figures measured. >> One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) >> then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R >> be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the >> Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> > > Again...with my TX > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency =3D 78% > > > The math's is trivial..... > > 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input > > 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against > a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) > > Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In > > > 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 > > Hence 78.6% efficient. > > Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary > quantities then the end result will be meaningless. > > Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and > good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 > ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? > > With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your > measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency > calculated to be really way out. > > Say (plucked out of thin air example):- > > DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) > > 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W > > > > RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load > > 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W > > Efficiency =3D 93.6% > > > > If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... > > I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out > > Efficiency =3D 103% > > Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual > motion machine..... > > > > If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... > > 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W > > Efficiency =3D 91.7% > > > > Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes > syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie > down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. > The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce > serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce > 150W on 500kHz. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 21:46 > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a5f4740bcf121b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:30:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA037-a5f4740bcf121b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:30:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itse0-0004qh-33 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itsdz-0004qY-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:35 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itsdx-0005yD-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC8C4E4EDA for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYJ4Q3eU52jY for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA9A4E4963 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:28:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82a32$6972ed10$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] 503.600 KHz RTTY test. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo Gary! I am seeing on my screen in QRSS mode and I think, that I am receiving your RTTY signal on 503.600kHz. See on the snapshot. GL and GE! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b104741988878; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104741988878; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:07:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu7G0-000738-6b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:05:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu7Fz-00072z-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:05:47 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu7Fv-0005at-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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much apprecia= ted! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:24 AM Subject: LF: 137.777 Capt. 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------=_NextPart_000_01C2_01C82A8B.549A2CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB32-18c4734d8e08d; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:02:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB36-18c4734d8e08d; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:02:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqbvH-0001Hl-OP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqbvH-0001Hc-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqbvD-0004di-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-158.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.158]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 634353DBB76; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-158.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.158]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id eb58dprsoOxJgeEY; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c8231c$1d46e120$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:01:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz. digital modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Lowfers & LFers, If anyone plans to run any of the digital modes found in MultiPSK on 500 kilohertz, please post a message here or to the LWCA bulletin board with the details. To date I've just copied plain cw and QRSS on my setup. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.133]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-17a474582043a6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:20:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB18-17a474582043a6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:20:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBy9-0001Eg-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBy6-0001EX-Nm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.227] helo=smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBy2-00082F-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 16945 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2007 13:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 22 Nov 2007 13:19:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4745820E.4070807@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:20:14 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence KL1X wrote: > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > suggest you peruse.... An incomplete list...didn't even have "QLF" (now try sending with your LEFT foot). John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1d473960761de; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:30:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d473960761de; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:29:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr92-0007eh-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr92-0007eY-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irr8z-0001TZ-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFAF3EA0D3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD553EA0E7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47396043.7060501@online.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , last night, only two beacons, (not of small test of John XES like the night=20= of before) WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (good) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-901473613f31dd; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901473613f31dd; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwuO-0005Ze-AZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwuN-0005ZU-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:23 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwuL-0000x3-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:23 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E0DA4D9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:51 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110202551.3e025103@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:57 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres > high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to > show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the > original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite > promising. > Hi Gary,LF, Hearing your slow CW ident and long dash quite nicely up here. Will email a sound file direct. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB32-c8472a1ed53b3; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:45:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB110-c8472a1ed53b3; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:45:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inf2O-0000ze-86 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inf2N-0000zV-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:03 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inf2K-0008RK-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:03 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2007 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from p54857403.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.116.3] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 01 Nov 2007 19:44:54 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19beZ5KPbtb3XzbnWDz8rDMD9Mx4Sq9jjtynVfVT5 QszTAUz3d92oX9 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:44:52 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1147148794.20071101194452@gmx.de> To: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV In-Reply-To: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020 Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: >> Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz >> De G3KEV >> > It's back again! > I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between > the "PAT"? > John It's a pirate! 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b984744453d30d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984744453d30d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuqrj-0005Zd-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuqrj-0005ZU-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iuqrh-0000oq-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DE0DA4D8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:43:08 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121144308.6bbd059b@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:20:17 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > You were a late starter on 500. I would say you have missed a lot. > G3KEV > > Undoubtedly I was and certainly I have. Your snide comments aside, I'm referring to your recent reported measurements and optimisation of tuning components to achieve good drain waveform as recounted by you on 18th November. It was a very interesting report, showing what can be done by observing the waveform to determine the necessary adjustments to tuning and loading on these amplifiers. I assume that after all the painstaking work to select the correct values of capacitor to get the optimal drain waveform that you measured the efficiency? If you've previously posted such results, prior to June 2007 when I joined the LF reflector, then I will certainly have missed them, but then your earlier data is not relevent to the recent reported study. I simply asked if you could fill us in with the important details of power input/output and efficiency (which surely is the point of using these Class-E amplifiers) which your report (copied below) seems to lack. Regards John Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b4a4739c1761c6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:23:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4739c1761c6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:23:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irxbv-0000Kv-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irxbu-0000Km-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:30 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irxbo-000729-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:30 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id CBYo1Y00A1GhbT8000Hx00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:57 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter89.comcast.net ([204.127.197.189]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CFNx1Y00Q45fzCC0000000; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jSgAKEDwlalt5/JD+1dgpQ==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=pzwkLd8rrZvrUIqXnC4A:9 a=Ln31jWuSDybc4TDVUfKQQDbLXMEA:4 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter89.comcast.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:56 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:56 +0000 Message-Id: <111320071522.17082.4739C150000BE33B000042BA22092246270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! Thank you for providing the grabber - it is a great service to the LF community! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF , > > last night, only two beacons, (not of small test of John XES like the night of > before) > WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (good) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-94d475008f81ac; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:59:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF033-94d475008f81ac; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:58:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy5Oj-0004Qu-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy5Oh-0004Ql-82 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:11 +0000 Received: from cas-mta3-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.28] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy5OW-0001px-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.98]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527FB4F1B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.28]) by localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id sXd5pWuJMM03 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from Willem1 (5357B72B.cable.casema.nl [83.87.183.43]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7804F28 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:40 +0100 (CET) From: "Willem de Roode" To: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgzUCwlm1LNQy1/QsiQedoiRDrYSQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C83358.8E8E05B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C83358.8E8E05B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Capture wd2xgj In jo22mb 73s wim pa3ego ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <921022414.20071110191624@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 9/10 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Copied UA4WPF, WD2XGJ, WD2XNS and WD2XKO. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz in QRSS3. Only brief copy of a "6" from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz in QRSS3. On about 506.3 kHz I captured a CW trace on the QRSS3 screen, but nothing readable in CW mode. Captures of /17 and /6 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8ae472efe70dc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae472efe70dc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:28:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip08H-0005db-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip08G-0005dR-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:40 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip08D-0003RX-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471EF8040031D265 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:27:57 +0100 Message-ID: <472EFE4D.8050702@telia.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> In-Reply-To: <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) These articles have the information you need to design and tune a class E amplifier: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/010102qex009.pdf http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~culler/AIIT/papers/radio/Sokal%20AACD5-poweramps.pdf This program can be used to find the initial values for impedances and components: http://tonnesoftware.com/classe.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a12473178c3367; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:35:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a12473178c3367; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:35:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgNF-0002z2-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgNF-0002yt-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:57 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgNA-0004D9-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:56 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.111]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:34:46 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:34:12 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c82118$e91a3640$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:33:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:34:12.0401 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9354A10:01C82118] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.239,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0711xko.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180" ------=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xko henny cpm....... 73s . ------=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9e2473f64ef86; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:02:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME106-9e2473f64ef86; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:02:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVjx-0006Cj-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVjx-0006Ca-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:13 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVju-0000ct-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:12 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1996CDA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:01:32 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you > can change that parameter so no problem. > that all depends on your software! gMFSK has the choice of 45 or 45.45 There are just as many errors (ie lots) whichever speed I choose. The noise seems to be wrecking the decoding despite a reasonable sounding signal by ear. CW would work! Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9f0473d68e89a; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG012-9f0473d68e89a; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:54:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isxsw-0001hy-Fa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isxsu-0001hp-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.161] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isxsp-0003c1-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:11 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00358B58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:56 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,f3878ab52beb717f,1d07c3d43ba52bbc,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2377:2378:2379:2393:2559:2562:2828:2892:3353:3636:3690:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:4647:4699:5007:6117:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m48-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.48]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.427 Subject: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out for the time being. It looks like 600 is similar in many ways to 160. I have been active on 160 m for a long time and for example have worked VE7/KL7/W6/W7 early morning on a particular day only to find the next morning the propagation to those places does not exist, at times I have heard W stns S9 plus here in the morning gone daylight and a few days later I cannot hear any at all. My observations on 600 m so far this autum indicate similarities to 160m. The situation on LF 136 khz is different, condx do vary but are more consistant, perhaps this band should be exploited more, but it now seems deserted in favour of 500 khz. The 73 khz band was getting popular and had good potential for consistancy just when the permits were withdrawn. The above information is my experience to date, meanwhile I am monitoring closely for a big opening and hope to have a qso with some of those stations active in the USA. I just need a good tail wind. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b64472af0bf36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:41:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64472af0bf36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:41:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Int1G-0004DH-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Int1F-0004D8-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Int14-0003qh-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 92075 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 09:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.157.220.230 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 09:40:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UNpx_joVM1lcpsUL8hRPQrNQ7QuvIoCsZiWRwx.Y7AB7RVESkNuz0kPopwoWKmNr_DxH8H0RBZdJpKNBG.tQd8NTLfUyRYjcsZlgkMh22c4Iu0sX From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB>, <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.072 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 2 Nov 2007 at 9:00, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by > his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's > doubly handicapped:- > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. I run around 6W output. My original calculations which was what the wording on my NOV application were based, was that the maximum power I would use would be 10W and that my proposed vertical would produce around 100mW erp. And my objective, as also stated on my NOV application, was to evaluate the use of 500kHz from a 'typical urban property'. To that extent I have now evaluated my experiments. The earth loss, at 150 ohms measured, proved rather higher than the 20 ohms or so that I assumed in those original calculations. The results I am getting are very much in keeping with my setup and antenna. Using a vertical antenna with no horizontal section there is very little high angle radiation. So within the ground wave zone, 100- 150 miles or so, results have been remarkably good and I can have excellent chats with some of the stations in this area. Because there is no high angle radiation longer distance stations are hard to work, much as I experience in using this vertical on 160m. But I would expect at even further distances, eastern Europe, for instance when the sky wave is at a low angle, results may be a bit better. Remember also that any antenna with a horizontal section will radiate from that section. Theory may say it cancels out due to earth reflection, but that is only really true if you have a perfect earth. As for running higher power, that is not really my option. Regardless of saying that I would not run more than 10W on my NOV surely the answer is to find ways of lowering the earth resistance to something more comparable with what others experience rather than just heating up the garden with virtually all the power. I shall not be doing that myself, others may see it as an answer. Since I shall be changing the antenna over to 160m before CQWW at the end of the month, it is probably fairly academic. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8c4472f49ea31c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c4472f49ea31c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:50:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59y-00036r-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59y-00036c-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout0132.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.132] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip59p-0003CO-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:45 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.75) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0028668F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:50:31 +0000 Message-ID: <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:49:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.434 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ada47416dd7221; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:05:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada47416dd7221; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:04:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4Qj-0006We-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4Qi-0006WV-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:40 +0000 Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu4Qe-0001ix-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:39 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EaxS1Y0060cQ2SL0A00G00; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Eb4W1Y00F1pKLLP0800000; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=_Ww90chLtYy8gbEPdnkA:9 a=9PopMbwZIK1PaMw6e0BUZm9eaJYA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <001b01c82a9b$f410d360$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:04:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.281 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Henny WE2XGR/2 was on 506.5 kHz running 12 wpm cw ID with gaps (10-12 seconds) between IDs. QRT at 0430Z. Thanks for the report! Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "henny van elst" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:44 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 but who? henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-901474217e21ed; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:10:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901474217e21ed; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:10:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuFkL-00086S-UL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:09:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuFkL-00086J-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 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Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: sm6bhz beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080600020201070600040700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 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X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I like a copy. Thank you 73 Federico EA2HB IN93ah ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC14-1c24735a3b634a; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:27:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC210-1c24735a3b634a; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:27:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqpQX-0004FO-4A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqpQW-0004FF-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqpQU-0002v3-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:04 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1C3DA4D8 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:26:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:26:54 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110122654.0972860a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.040,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 > minutes. band noise level low at present. > Hello LF, Ray, Chris, Just had a listen and GI3PDN is RST539. Band noise extremely low so fully Q5 despite being very weak, as long as I use the external tuneable pre-amp. Also hearing GW4HXO calling CQ on 502.02 very weak but just readable 429. Mal of course S8-9 on 502.5 as ever... Waiting for a chance to drop the TX antenna to replace the broken capacity wire which was the only damage sustained in Thursdays force 10-11 winds (gusts to 93mph were recorded locally...). Probably won't be until tomorrow until I get a chance. Unitl then I'm RX only (again!) Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6847319c9b192; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:08:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA048-a6847319c9b192; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:08:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipil9-0004B5-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipil8-0004Aw-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:46 +0000 Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipil4-0004pn-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id 9n1U1Y0011HpZEs0100L00; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:42 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9n7h1Y0021pKLLP0000000; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:42 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=7AI31_CU3CR3ZP30qQgA:9 a=7QalPrz5RxhFykmlPvgA:7 a=Xg-q4klsiB48IUrVFLXZlLfE3-kA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:07:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.300 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jean-Pierre Thank you for the captures! Yes, XNS is running 400 watts transmitter power. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the “decca” in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-9224745ad011c6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:23:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224745ad011c6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:23:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEpi-0002G0-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEpi-0002Fr-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0165.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.165] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvEpf-0004bw-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0041F2D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,2be191651e06cd30,b9218959ffb08a7c,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:960:967:973:980:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1461:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2525:2551:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2828:2857:2859:2902:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3352:3421:3636:3747:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871: 3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250:4470:5007:6119:7576:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82d23$f3bf3980$33ccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <000401c82c83$fe9fc2c0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:22:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: QSO Etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Roelof Tnx for the call/QSO last nite. There was good propagation to EU at that time. I worked a number of EU stns. SM6NZV, DL1EIE, DJ1ZB, F6CNI, PA0RDT and PA0LCE plus one G stn. 73 and hpe to QSO agn soon. de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: LF: QSO Etiquette > Hello all, > > I have followed the discussion on crossband QSO's today. > > A few minutes ago I had a crossband QSO with G3KEV. > Whilst calling him it dawned upon me that there is a very simple solution to > this problem: > I just send: G3KEV on 502 kHz de PA0RDT K. > Mal send my call as PA0RDT on 3553 kHz. > > This way listeners on 600 m and 80 m do know exactly what is going on. > > Best regards, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > -- > Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. > 521 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. > Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB23-ef472e4c6d196; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:49:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB59-ef472e4c6d196; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:49:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IooH0-0006Om-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IooGz-0006Od-L2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IooGw-0007Di-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27673EA0DA for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FCB3EA0B8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472E4C51.6080002@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.148 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF'ers Good copy at 22:30 of WD2XGJ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8af474314a42df; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af474314a42df; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:08:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWaB-00023y-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWaA-00023p-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuWa8-000107-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:18 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044EADA4D8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:02 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071120170802.1e35dfb4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 EST G4gvw@aol.com wrote: > Looks good John! > =20 > What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the > soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape > variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? Hello Pat, LF, As an experimentally minded person I do of course keep an open mind on these matters, and conduct regular trials to determine which varietal gives the best results (both for soldering and for manual telegraphy!) Currently I find the Chilean Carmen=C3=A8re to be good value! Bottoms up! John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b0c473efda42e3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:41:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC028-b0c473efda42e3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:41:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItOrP-00056w-VP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItOrP-00056n-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItOrL-0004Z4-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DqcM1Y0040cZkys0500K00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:59 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dqgy1Y0081pKLLP0300000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Hqsx4TQKAnUVElxTR9EA:9 a=__6s1IVeILr4eotA3__iPi_3u9YA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <001b01c82927$de5d9f00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Cc: References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> <001d01c82920$3be7d300$f8277ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:40:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The following cross posted from the US 500 kHz list: >I will hope to here the DX and if so will be riding Jay's shirttails on his >freq-Bob W2ZM Bob is WE2XGR/6, is located in western NY and running 3-4 dB more power than I am. Our antenna systems are roughly equal. His signal has been copied in EU. What isn't known yet is whether he'll be able to copy EU stations as far inland as he is. Bob is an excellent cw op so if anyone can pull it off, he can. Jay From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8cd4734a57f6f; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:23:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4734a57f6f; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqYV0-0000Nt-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqYV0-0000Nk-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqYUx-0002QI-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4873EA13B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:22:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CF83EA0CB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:22:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4734A551.6080304@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:22:09 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, I have just given in service my =93grabber=94 on 137 Khz , it will be=20 operational every night in direction of North America . You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with=20 this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ Are available the winter 2006/2007 Except this summer when the grabber was stopped . 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ada4738968718e; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:08:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4738968718e; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:08:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irdge-0005hS-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irdge-0005hJ-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irdga-0000mz-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071112180634.XYGT25022.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:34 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071112180633.ZSPA219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:33 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which makes QRSS harder. Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to 30s slow) : 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' Very noisy overnight. Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know if this frequency causes anyone a problem. de Mike, G3XDV ============ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b3d472c1ae3279; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:53:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d472c1ae3279; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:53:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCrw-0001jJ-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCrw-0001jA-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoCrr-0001KZ-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5043EA0AD for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:52:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E433EA0AA for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:52:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472C1AAA.1020401@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:52:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.149 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , Merci pour les encouragements ! chaque jour je regarde bien les=20 captures de la nuit , je n'ai rien vu de significatif qui ne laisserai=20 aucun doute ! La propagation n'est pas encore au mieux ,( j'ai compar=E9=20 avec l'an pass=E9 et on est loin !!!! ) c'est au moment de la grayline=20 qu'il y a des bons signaux ( le matin ou le soir ) mais la nuit pas=20 vraiment de bons passages . Thank you for the encouragements! each day I look at well capture night,=20 I did not see anything of significant which will not leave any doubt!=20 The propagation is not yet as well as possible, (I compared with the=20 last year and one is far!!!! ) it is at the time of the grayline that=20 good signals (the morning or the evening) but the night ago not really=20 of good passages. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you J-P. There may have been a very weak trace on one of > your captures, but most likely it was my imagination. > > Thank-you for your continued efforts. The beacon remains > in operation. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : >> WD2XGJ and WD2XES >> >> On 189.95 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ab9473963d22a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:44:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab9473963d22a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:44:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrrMn-0007oC-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrrMn-0007o3-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrrMk-0001gX-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B664D3EA120 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704F33EA113 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47396399.7060204@online.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA074-a82474f2beb1b8; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:15:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA082-a82474f2beb1b8; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:15:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqj3-0002nB-DX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqj3-0002n2-1P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:13 +0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqj0-0004kR-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:12 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cbe.19639d30 (30739) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:14:54 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1196370894" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1196370894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Gary. John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to try and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham. Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps. Back on 503.7 now David In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp -------------------------------1196370894 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Gary.
 
John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to t= ry=20 and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham.
 
Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps.  Back on 503.7= =20 now
 
David
 
 
In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi=20 All,

Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ?

I=20= am=20 seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about=20 1950utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83qp

 
-------------------------------1196370894-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6447408e461a1; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:11:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b6447408e461a1; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:11:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItpXA-0003yP-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItpXA-0003yG-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItpX6-0005VA-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 X-Trace: 636578807-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJocQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 19:10:09 +0000 Message-ID: <015601c82a16$a3475fb0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "Chris McCarthy" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711180904x769dcd8du78e25868533228e8@mail.gmail.com> <012101c82a09$3fec4460$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711181020o4dbc36femb234a5cf0861855b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.195 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Chris, OK, we all fall for that, RTFM. Thanks for the 100% copy, certainly looks like it works fine, narrow bandwidth & good copy & produced with simple equipment, class D Tx & DDS VFO using CW offset feature. Cheers, Gary _ G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Hello Garry, > > I should really read the manual! > > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > 2007-OV-18 18:15 UTC > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > > Chris, G3XVL > > > > using 1.65D MMTY > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> Maybe the MMTTY is an different version, mine is 1.65B 2001-2004 & it >> only >> has 22bd selectable. >> >> I have just looked at the MMTTY web site :- >> >> http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/ >> >> & there is V1.65D available now. I will get that & have a look at it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Gary. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris McCarthy" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:04 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test >> >> >> > Hello Gary, >> > I've been in the shack most of the afternoon and keep coming back to >> > resolve your RTTY, without success. I just heard G3XIZ and G3YKB in QSO >> > using 45.45 and 85Hz shift. >> > >> > Perhaps its settings this end? >> > With my MMTY, I only have 22.5bd or 20 bd is that right? >> > >> > Chris, G3XVL >> > >> > >> > >> > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> >> shift >> >> over greater distances. >> >> >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> > >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b604740558b23e; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b604740558b23e; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItllX-0002be-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItllX-0002bV-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItllU-00024n-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02B7DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:46 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118150846.742d7bd4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. Hi LF,Gary, Just had 4 successful 100% decodes in a row - timestamps (per your data) 14:54, 14:57, 14:59, 15:02 No...wait.... number 5 just printing 100% too at 15:04 this is too easy John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9a7473c1a6d24; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:08:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a7473c1a6d24; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:07:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbcJ-0006bi-9e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbcI-0006bZ-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:34 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsbcF-0007Mj-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:34 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W2 ([207.46.11.165]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:06:03 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.10] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:06:03 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2007 10:06:03.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A12080:01C8276F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_" Subject: RE: LF: 501.1 kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can hear rttty too or something like it and in my case its from sideband g= umpf from a loudish Navtex transmitter - its actually noise on its tx baseba= nd (honest) =20 Laurence> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200> From: phl@netikka.fi> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 501.1 kHz> > Hello Roman, LF>=20= > I have also noticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has>= commented on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is cle= arly> audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode= it using> various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tried bu= t I'm not too> familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may well be betwee= n the chair and> the keyboard.> > 73's> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ> > > Quoting=20= ". Roman" :> > > Hi All!> >> >> >> > 505.1 kHz in Moscow t= onight:> >> > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg>=20= >> >> >> > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM> >> > 505.080 kHz rtty? who= is it?> >> >> >> > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3.> >> >> >> >> >> > --= > >> > 73!> >> > Roman, RW3ADB> >> >> >> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus=3D --_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can hear rttty too or something like it and in my case its from sideband g= umpf from a loudish Navtex transmitter - its actually noise on its tx baseba= nd (honest)
 
Laurence

> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200
> From: phl= @netikka.fi
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF= : 501.1 kHz
>
> Hello Roman, LF
>
> I have also no= ticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has
> commente= d on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is clearly
&= gt; audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode i= t using
> various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tri= ed but I'm not too
> familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may we= ll be between the chair and
> the keyboard.
>
> 73's
&= gt;
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>
>
> Quoting ". Roman= " <rw3adb@yandex.ru>:
>
> > Hi All!
> >
&g= t; >
> >
> > 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight:
> ><= BR>> > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg> >
> >
> >
> > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.18= 0 kHz DI2AM
> >
> > 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it?
> &= gt;
> >
> >
> > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+= 3.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>=20= > --
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Roman, RW3AD= B
> >
> >
> >
>
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smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3fm-0007Uu-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:03:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 23139 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 21:02:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.33) with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2007 21:02:55 -0000 Message-ID: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:02:42 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been trying to post various versions of the following to the U.S. lowfer reflector for a half hour, but they are always rejected as spam. I'll post it here! In an article on the ARRL site: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/11/02/102/?nc=1 An allocation at 135.7-137.8 kHz is still wending its way through the process. At this point, two footnotes have been added. One would limit the power to 1 watt EIRP. The other would allow countries in Region I to opt out of permitting the allocation. Also, for some reason, Saudi Arabia appears to be objecting to the whole idea. On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more restrictive EIRP, right? And the opt-out for Region I is probably a concession to the Saudis. It'll be interesting on a number of levels to see how the U.S. votes when the final package is ready. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9be472f99002fe; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:28:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME062-9be472f99002fe; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:28:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAQP-0001Jv-3H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAQO-0001Jm-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:04 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAQM-0004mR-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:04 +0000 Received: from MGreenw969@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cf9.1fe9acee (48600) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: MGreenw969@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:27:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5034 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 kz tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194301671" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194301671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2225 GI4DPE 599, very loud in IO93cn calling cq. 73 de Mike -------------------------------1194301671 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2225 GI4DPE 599, very loud in IO93cn calling cq.
 
73 de Mike
-------------------------------1194301671-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-95a472b56a437b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:56:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF048-95a472b56a437b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:56:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzoA-0005kP-64 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inzo9-0005kG-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout0173.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.173] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inzo5-0004Rc-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.93) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0025976F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c81d71$3157b280$5debfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:53:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Decca Jeep Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all I wonder how many old 5501 Decca jeeps are still in use on 136 khz, they are such a big heap, and require odd ball voltages. It is so easy to build a compact custom designed class D/E FET amplifier for both 136 and 500 that the jeep mods are not worth bothering about. I have two relegated to the cellar and a man near Hull stripped 5 transmitters for scrap, no amateurs in the area wanted them. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-194472a0468399; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:53:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB44-194472a0468399; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:52:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IndGp-0000WC-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IndGp-0000W3-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout0184.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.184] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IndGm-0000L5-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.54) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D00249364 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:51:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c81ca7$6d691ae0$36e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:26:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.746 Subject: LF: 500 XBAND Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all I always check 3533/7033 khz plus/minus qrm when active on 500 khz. This has been very rewarding with lots of real time reports from EU stns not active transmitting on 500. I likewise also listen on 500 at the same time and have separate antennas and rigs as appropriate for the job with QSK facilities. I have observed other UK stns also working xband and this is to be encouraged. One French stn told me he has heard 20 UK stns so far on 500. Xband is not new, it has been going on for years and especially in the early 6 metre days 6/10 m was very popular, also 73/136 khz to 1.8/3.5 Mhz. It would be useful if RADCOM published this information. News about LF/MF activities are rare these days in RADCOM. I have submitted information and a photograph of my rig but it has not appeared. It would also be interesting to see other persons rigs, antennas and other details. There are overseas stations as far away as Cyprus listening for 500 acty, so you might get a call xband sooner than you think. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-916474160fb246; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:10:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD076-916474160fb246; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:10:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu3YG-0006Fo-BJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu3YE-0006Ff-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu3Y9-00030b-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:20 +0000 X-Trace: 627933875-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIrvQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 10:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: <005701c82a94$160a9da0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c82a33$86c03020$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-2, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9d34741c8453b9; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:31:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d34741c8453b9; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuARK-0007Ig-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuARJ-0007IX-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:41 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuARG-0003TD-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:41 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cf9.217da653 (37139) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from MBLK-M37 (mblk-m37.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.81]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA031-91134741c7f02c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:20 -0500 References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47414778.2000405@online.fr> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <47414778.2000405@online.fr> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: markusvester@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL eMail 31361-STANDARD Received: from 217.194.34.103 by MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:19 -0500 Message-Id: <8C9F8E8DA2A0229-D8-237@MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.747,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: Donebach QRM cleared Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi LF, the reported Donebach splatters have apparently been fixed. Last Friday=20 (Nov 16th), I talked to one of the transmitter operators on the phone=20 and explained the problem. He said they hadn't noticed anything unusual=20 but promised to take a look. Don't know what they finally did or=20 stopped doing, but a couple of hours later (11:57 UT) the nasty noises=20 disappeared completely, and have not returned since. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ________________________________________________________________________ Bei AOL gibt's jetzt kostenlos eMail f=C3=BCr alle. Klicken Sie auf AOL.de=20 um heraus zu finden, was es sonst noch kostenlos bei AOL gibt. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a004741fdfc272; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:20:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a004741fdfc272; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:19:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE1I-0007kl-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE1I-0007kc-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuE1F-0004is-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 X-Trace: 637102715-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALqLQUdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 21:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <00fb01c82af1$cad598e0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004001c82adf$6d0707b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:18:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071119-0, 19/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.193 Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Lubos, LF, Thanks for locator, I did not have that with your beacon details, I will now update my list. The distance is 1455 Km according to QRB & QTE software. Regards, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Hallo Gary and ALL! Yes, I am sure now, it was your RTTY signal. My locator is JN88KS. The same like QRA of my beacon OK0EMW. 73 and GL on 500kHz Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b9e473631001ee; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e473631001ee; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqyqL-0006Ho-Di for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqyqL-0006Hf-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqyqI-0008VD-6p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c9f.1ab50166 (30737) for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:07 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 502 RTTY G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194733807" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194733807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 20:37:30 GMT Standard Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Hello LF, Chris, In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN. Seeing G0MRF too. QRN level low Really busy picture on your grabber at the moment (22.25) Always a good sign when 5mW travels 900km. BTW, I can see something on the grabber on 504.44. I wonder if that's one of the US stations. Thanks David G0MRF -------------------------------1194733807 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/11/2007 20:37:30 GMT Standard Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Hello=20 LF, Chris,

In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN= .=20 Seeing G0MRF
too. QRN level low
 
Really busy picture on your grabber at the moment (22.25)
 
Always a good sign when 5mW travels 900km.
 
BTW, I can see something on the grabber on 504.44.  I wonder if th= at's=20 one of the US stations. 
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
-------------------------------1194733807-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b99472b52861b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:38:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99472b52861b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:38:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzWo-0005bO-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InzWn-0005bF-N5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:49 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InzWk-0006CF-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E45AE1C00086 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:37:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.58.113]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BF0CB1C00085 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:37:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102163739782.BF0CB1C00085@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:37:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.101 Subject: LF: 501.5 .. who ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-696472a28303a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB64-696472a28303a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InffI-0001AM-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InffH-0001AD-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:15 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InffC-0000Hr-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 24198 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 18:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.153.198.35 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 18:58:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EXQWBvwVM1ls9X6O9ylvttagPGPqaAZvGn3Mc.89ywZGtQiKUmVpZoiEfUAY1Nrkb4W4gcwA.uNmM0sLxGN9N1OEcCFd5KwjpXmssdEjaBfh7jtm From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472A21BB.24927.2AE0C2C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 1 Nov 2007 at 18:26, hamilton mal wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz > De G3KEV > > This is a known NDB beacon, though very little seems to be known about it. The only references I can find are at: http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/unidsounds.htm http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/neuqsl.htm Which says 'PAT - 499.3 kHz (100kb): - This beacon was heard operating over the Christmas period again, and this recording was made at 2250 utc on the 25th of December 2006. This occasional beacon is believed to operate from the Irish Republic.' So nothing new.... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-af14729da8235a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:54:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14729da8235a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:54:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InaTl-0008UV-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InaTk-0008UM-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:00 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InaTh-0003GO-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 15BA7700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:52:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.33.140]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CBE8C7000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:52:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101135251835.CBE8C7000083@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : >>>>..... No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! .....<<<< 'Steady on old boy', J , On the contrary, we can all radiate signals. its just that the receiving stations are in the wrong place's , I'm sure , during the height of 'beacon bedlam' a lot of stations where introduced to the concept of 'service area' Birmingham, as the radiation fly's is about 75 miles from my location and looks to represent the limit of reliable communications , may be a touch less at round the 60 mark. When I can see a trace, I can reduce the power to a couple of mW erp and still see the trace, and thats over land ... After 60 miles, what happens its anyone's guess, At the change of state, for want of a better description, there looks to be a 150/250 mile hop, during which time reasonable signals may be expected, but once again, if your outside the limits, nothing, Interestingly, the mobile station, who was relaying signal reports, co-incidentally, while I ran the 'olivia' data test, reported good signals from his location sw of Darby , checking his location, he was about 100 miles range at 5/600 feet asl , that's some 500 feet above my location ..The trace at Birmingham, had all but gone , too close for skip ? Height help's ? Later after sunset, falling into a long skip round the 1000 mile mark, During which times , good traces can be seen at Shetland and , Wolf has posted many 'good' signal reports, from discussions with those who use the band in the past, 1/2000 miles was the expected norm for the northern hemisphere and 4/5000 miles for the southern. the north/south allways strikes me as 'odd' Ok, may be a few more watts and reception by-ear , but with the level of digital processing in use now, looks like 'we' can 'see' we are living up to expectations, It's just that we cannot actually 'hear' the other station . ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report > On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 > "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > > >> So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is >> down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic >> earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! >> > > Dave, LF, > > The other option is more power of course! If your antenna is > inefficient due to low radiation resistance you need more current and > if it's poor because of high environmental losses you need more driving > power to get the current. > > I tried a simple vertical 2 weeks ago in an attempt to eliminate the > top loading wires for the winter (got tired of them breaking free in > the gales). > > The antenna was 11m with no top-capacity loading and using a > professional FSM I found that with 80W TX power and 0.9A RF current > at the feed-point I got an ERP of only 85mW. > > I relented and installed some top-loading. With 4 x 7m long capacity > loading wires running down the upper guys (not a long horizontal > stretch), and only 30W TX power, I achieved 140mW ERP. > > The bare vertical was very inefficient due to low Rrad, as there was > plenty of current flowing, almost 1A. > > The top loading however gave 6dB gain in ERP! I also found the overall > R dropped considerably with the longer top-load wires (previously I'd > used 3.5m long loading wires), needing large change in matching > transformer taps to get back to 50 ohms. The overall losses must be > lower. Probably due in part to needing much less L to bring it to > resonance, and fewer losses in the loading coil. > > If I couldn't improve the ground losses, which I find I can't either > (very wet peat on rock isn't great!) I'd put more power into the > antenna, which I do. I find that with a real "QRP" TX of ~5W I'd not be > heard by anyone except in the most perfect of conditions. At least you > have some locals to work I suppose. > > My nearest regular stations are Mal and Finbar - both over 600km away, > even Mark GM4ISM is 500km+ and he's a "GM"! > > No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! > > I heard Chris G3XVL call/work you on Tuesday and strained my ears, and > eyes on the waterfall, but could see nothing more than the very faintest > hint of a signal between his overs. > > > More power Igor! > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-95d4743043d1b6; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:59:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF053-95d4743043d1b6; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:59:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuVSb-0001nv-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuVSX-0001nm-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuVSQ-0001pB-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:17 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A56C0008BCB2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0100 Message-ID: <47430398.8000702@telia.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:56:08 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, for proper class E operation, the drain waveform must be allowed to be non-symmetrical so you cannot just use a center tapped output transformer. In other words, there must be no "hard coupling" between the drains in a class E push-pull amplifier. One way is to design two identical class E amplifiers, each designed for an output power P into the load R. Note: Each amplifier must have its own DC feeding choke - no center tapped stuff here! Then feed these two amplifiers with push-pull drive (180 degrees phase shift) and connect the primary winding of an output transformer between the outputs of the two amplifiers. The output transformer should be designed so that 2*R will be "seen" when "looking" into the primary. The total output power will be 2*P. With sufficient Q in the series tanks (C2, L), the output current will be almost sinusoidal, as in the single ended case, so the two halves of the amplifier will not "know" that they are actually operating in push-pull. Since the two series resonant tanks of the two amplifiers and the output transformer primary will all be connected in series, you can simplify the circuit by using a single resonant tank with twice the L and half the C. This may look assymetrical but it gives exactly the same result (a few pF stray C can be neglected at these low frequencies...). One can say that this is simply two class E amplifiers connected in series. However, the even harmonic cancelling property of push-pull is still there because of circuit (and drive) symmetry. I have tried this configuration, for example on 160m QRP, and it seems to work very well. 73 Johan SM6LKM hamilton mal skrev: > Hi all > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > someone has a push pull design. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b744734892040; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:22:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b744734892040; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:21:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqWag-0007zu-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqWag-0007zl-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqWab-0007Eq-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:17 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Nov 2007 16:20:07 -0000 Received: from p54854D22.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.77.34] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 09 Nov 2007 17:20:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/q0AF5QjXq1JEjf/jEKwd4WKQziiXuMVx92QBMPn 6YtSwuvCixJVAa Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:20:05 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1618263390.20071109172005@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 8/9 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Copied WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS last night Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.266 kHz in QRSS3. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-e1472b94f9316; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e1472b94f9316; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:22:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3xZ-0007Eh-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3xY-0007EY-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3xT-0007Y5-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78C3B1C00087 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:21:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 01DDB1C00086 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:21:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102212134776.01DDB1C00086@mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003801c81d96$61193140$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB><20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com><003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:21:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.096 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Good point's john . Thanks Graham, This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my location! On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the effect of differing local noise floors! As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. >>>>>> Now that's a interesting point, that separates this 'band' >>>>>> rom -VLF- . To date the printed word talks of radio blackout during >>>>>> sun-up .. true the sun has a effect, however : I have copied >>>>>> stations from the south coast devon I think, and south wales at 1200 >>>>>> hrs and at the same time Finbars beacon , about 200 so miles from >>>>>> the other direction . not quite what you would expect , reading the >>>>>> books ! <<<<<<<< > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low,< I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky enough to be able to try these things ;-) All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, even in daytime. >>>>> I think this is one of those , digital moment's I was talking >>>>> about, , you can copy or you cannot , bit like 6 mtrs , I saw a >>>>> interesting presentation from a 160 mtr dxperdition, where there >>>>> contacts , with the usa , when potted on a map ,showed patterns of >>>>> cluster's , nothing like the 'uniform front' the books present .. >>>>> !<<<<<<< It's a simple equation..... If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. >>>>>>> problem there is simply s/n at the rx , as you point out , you can >>>>>>> here then , but they cannot resolve your signal , the rx stations >>>>>>> are in the wrong place hihi or you need to increase you output to >>>>>>> improve the remote s/n ratio . this where 'we' may do better with >>>>>>> digital modes <<<<<<< > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense > of the word .. > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna producing them>>> >>>>> that's not always the case , odd as it may seem ! that was one of the >>>>> 'funny' things that was noticed on 6 mtrs when we first got the nov to >>>>> tx a long time ago <<<<< G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 > "Graham" wrote: > >> Good point's john . > > Thanks Graham, > > This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from > different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones > and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my > location! > > >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles >>>to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with >>>seeming >>>ease. > >> But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip >> distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission >> losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the >> skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation >> for semi local stations >> > > I was initially directing my "more power" point to stations like Dave > G3YMC who complain that they hear the "DX" stations like myself yet > fail to heard by those same stations. > > This isn't a question of extending the ground-wave signal further into > the "skip-zone" it's a question of radiating a similar level of power > than the remote station that you're already hearing and who is > obviously therefore in "skip range". > > The question of how much TX power is necessary needs to be addressed by > each station individually due to differences in antenna efficiencies. > > To say "5W" or "10W" or "25W" is "enough to generate 100mW" is plain > wrong. > > The power needed is just that - "the power needed" - whether it be 5W > or 200W. > > > On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the > effect of differing local noise floors! > > As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in > broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian > has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. > > >> >> The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, > > I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position > of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave > all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave > region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky > enough to be able to try these things ;-) > > > All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work > Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour > but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, > even in daytime. > > >> >> For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , >> 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) >> reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. > > Conversely, my AR7030, even with a wideband 4kHz IF filter to feed the > grabber, shows no S-meter deflection in the daytime. > > With a narrow 300Hz CW filter I can even use 30dB of extra RF > pre-amplification to good effect to pull out the likes of G3UNT from > the noise. > > Brian runs (I think) quite modest power yet is audible 24/7 here. > > Have a listen to what he sounds like with 10Hz filter in at > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/g3kev_g3unt_clip_22_09_07.mp3 > > This was recorded at 10:25UTC on 22 Sept. > > >>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate >>>highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to >>>do so.<<< > >> 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach >> something in the region of 100mW , > > > I agree. That's what I use to get 100mW ERP. > > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by > his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's > doubly handicapped:- > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. > > It's a simple equation..... > > If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , > perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is > needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. > > One good thing about the OFCOM power limit being in terms of ERP and > not TX power is it should allow a level playing field, with everyone > being prepared to engineer their systems appropriately to meet the > limit, unless specifically interested in much lower ERPs for some > other reason. > > I'd much rather (and I have) bite the bullet, build a bigger TX and try > to at least comfortably reach the 100mW ERP limit, after all 100mW is > tiny enough, but to purposefully restrict yourself further seems > pointless if your aim is aural, manual CW QSOs. > > > > We need to make QSOs while we have access to the band. A log book full > of "called CQ, no reply" or "called GM4SLV, no reply" is of little > scientific value, or emotional value, as is a log book full of "worked > GxXXX again. RST599 as always, but then he's only 10 miles away" > > > We need to push the boat out now and put out as good a signal as > possible to get some work done on the band while we've got it. If it > takes a 200W TX then do it! > > >> >> May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense >> of the word .. >> > > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote > location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna > producing them. The limiting factor is S/N ratio. Overcome the noise > and you'll be heard, assuming there's some propagation path. In Dave's > case I'd say that if can hear a station then there obviously is a path. > > > The answer, I'm afraid, is > > "More Power Igor!" > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: > 11/1/2007 18:47 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a3c4734951c13; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:13:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4734951c13; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:13:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqXPJ-0008Gd-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqXPI-0008GU-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:36 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqXPF-0001Vm-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:36 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqXOu-0000TN-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:12 +0100 Received: from f054161062.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.161.62]:1070 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IqXOt-0006eb-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:12 +0100 Message-ID: <473494F0.3070301@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, you wrote: > Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine > transmission? I have forwarded the question to Renato, and indeed the 82 Hz signal is from a Russian transmitter at Kola peninsula. 73, Wolf . (soon back on 137 kHz, if the antenna survives the storm expected in northern DL later tonight) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-17f472f2d28388; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:48:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB23-17f472f2d28388; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:48:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3F5-0000mT-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3F4-0000mK-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:54 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3F1-0006rf-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:54 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B900445B19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:47:24 +0100 Message-ID: <472F2CFD.8050305@telia.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:47:25 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Please put me on the list too. 73 Johan SM6LKM James Moritz wrote: > If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-acd47309edb266; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:06:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB063-acd47309edb266; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:05:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRrV-0000CC-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRrU-0000C3-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:12 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpRrP-0000px-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 31122 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2007 16:53:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UGS0Zbjkgh5XnApnakYx9aMzR5ySAiWTkFmyFcXyAVeLd9kQV6mP8mkecye7IkqGIJmkkntPtY5JoXVEdBu3sxnBOIOYo+XEGIYi4cPhMFAcScEEKH6mr9XgaA3GVuJokFoj0ToM1YdGmj9aK2mfErLkYyEEquIUaQoBCzKGiYA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.15.155 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2007 16:53:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hYqoLi4VM1ljPe80l271L8BmIs7mxl.pbkCuya_tBgQSYImL3rzqPH4tEmiwVSjEE48tFadZUA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1112]); Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:52:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82095$5f3cdfa0$9b0f7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> <004301c8207c$b17be720$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:52:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.126 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Graham, For a CW output, as Alan said, it isn't a square wave - or any other wave really, apart from a tiny amount of RF ripple. For the class E, and the usual "current switching" Class D circuits, the DC current is fed via an RF choke - in order not to knock the circuit out of tune, the choke needs a reasonably high reactance at the operating frequency, which means that the RF current in the choke must be relatively tiny compared to the DC current. The small RF ripple current will be further soaked up by the supply decoupling capacitors, so what is coming out of the DC supply should be nearly pure DC. It is slightly different with "voltage switching" class D stages, such as the one used in the 500kHz EER system. There, the output devices draw current direct from the supply rail, and large, low-impedance decoupling capacitors are an essential feature of the PA. But in such a design, you will always want to have additional DC supply decoupling choke/capacitor filtering to prevent RF currents circulating in external parts of the circuit, so again the DC feed to the PA stage will be nearly pure DC. So unless a switching PA (or any other PA for that matter) has awful decoupling, you should not need to worry about measuring anything other than DC votage and current from the power supply. Measuring the input and output powers under dynamic, modulated conditions is another thing - how you do it will depend on what you are trying to measure - peak power, mean power, mean efficiency, instantaneous efficiency, etc. But since the modulation level varies relatively slowly compared to the RF signals in the PA, the efficiency of the PA at any particular output level will not be much different from what you measure under CW conditions at that level - which is certainly much easier to do. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Hi Alan, .. Thats the point , >>>>(((((Note that it is not a 50% squarewave)))). Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies.<<<< Its a good system , I was noting a lot of 'posts' referring to , P=I*V , , even if it was a 1:1 square wave, you would still need either a form factor , or better still , a 'true rms' meter . to make the final measurement , assuming it has sufficient bandwidth , A scope with a floating differential input , measuring across a very low 'passive' resistance would do the trick .. .. Its a bit like measuring the peak power out of a ssb set , do you measure the peak envalope power , by peak votatage and calculate the power and then mult by 0.707 to get the rms level .or just take the peak ... or just dont ask ? Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? > Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked > at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the > choke > is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when > it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The > choke > tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is > what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt > cap > are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current, > so > the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show > "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc > feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's > , > past P = I*V ? > > Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing > 'spurious side bands' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. > The > output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 > pole LPF. > For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good > calibrated scope and a quality DL > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more > like > a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to > get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally > measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a > issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on > the > leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area > under > the curve' ? > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Hi all >> Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work >> out. How are the % figures measured. >> One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) >> then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R >> be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the >> Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> > > Again...with my TX > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency = 78% > > > The math's is trivial..... > > 18.7V x 3.4A = 63.58W DC input > > 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against > a ÂŁ20,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) > > Efficiency = Power Out / Power In > > > 50 / 63.58 = 0.786 > > Hence 78.6% efficient. > > Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary > quantities then the end result will be meaningless. > > Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and > good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 > ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? > > With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your > measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency > calculated to be really way out. > > Say (plucked out of thin air example):- > > DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) > > 13.8V at 5.3A = 73.14W > > > > RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load > > 1.17A in 50 ohms = 68.4W > > Efficiency = 93.6% > > > > If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... > > I = 1.23A in 50 ohms = 75W Out > > Efficiency = 103% > > Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual > motion machine..... > > > > If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... > > 1.17A in 49 ohms = 67W > > Efficiency = 91.7% > > > > Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes > syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie > down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. > The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce > serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce > 150W on 500kHz. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a5f4742aec188; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:54:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA037-a5f4742aec188; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:54:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPmt-0000jA-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPms-0000j1-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:58 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPmm-0007A3-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:56 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:52:47 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:52:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c82b5b$1739a050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:51:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 09:52:47.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AB866D0:01C82B5B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgr2011.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82B63.605D40E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture we2xgr/2 freq.506.5khz time:12.24z qrss3 jo22mb henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB36-18c473a59d7258; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7kx-00028x-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7kw-00028o-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:30 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is7ks-0008Eq-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:30 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CRnu1Y0050vp7WL0102S00; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:22 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CSDM1Y00C1pKLLP0000000; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:22 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JFJl-n1UV3vCnJ0V-34A:9 a=R2umtVu1wEqqFKIAySULbiyb1dQA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <001e01c82663$ec788bc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.290 Subject: LF: GI / W QSO on 500 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Just completed...an aural cw contact between GI4DPE and WE2XGR/2. GI4DPE was transmitting on 501.3 kHz and WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz. Distance, according to grid square calculator, 4890 km / 3039 miles. Although QRN on XGR/2 end made copy somewhat difficult at times there were several exchanges of call signs, signal reports and other 'pleasantries'. Finbar appeared to have excellent copy on his end. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB34-ce473086bc19a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:57:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB26-ce473086bc19a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:22:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpQFT-0008Fh-6i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpQFS-0008FY-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpQFQ-0003vE-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:50 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB41DA4D6 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:19:42 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071106151942.2ca987e9@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz Sound files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I've just been adding a few sound clips to my web-pages of recent signals received. I keep forgetting to record stuff, but have recently captured G3LDO working G3XIZ, GW4HXO at around 1500 UTC, both in beacon mode and during a failed QSO attempt. Best of all - G4GDR in Swindon calling CQ with a 5W valve TX. I also found some recordings of G3UNT calling CQ in full daylight, GI3PDN at night and some of G3OLB during our QSO back in August. The files have been re-encoded down to 64kb/s to make them smaller and faster to download too! http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/sounds.htm Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-941474e6ae22e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:32:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-941474e6ae22e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:31:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixdr3-00019x-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixdr2-00019o-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:36 +0000 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixdqx-0007Vp-I2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.98]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168F8145 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.20]) by localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id q1u581qduyon for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from Willem1 (5357B72B.cable.casema.nl [83.87.183.43]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC138142 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Willem de Roode" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c83259$ba0691d0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgyWbmDSQfFG0DXSKOjeMK5iJHUnQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C83262.1BCAF9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C83262.1BCAF9D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wd2xgj In jo22mb Wim pa3ego Best 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a7473e582987; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItDq6-0003Qe-5O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItDq5-0003QV-Au for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:21 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItDq1-0005pq-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Deul1Y0090vyq2s0500200; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:13 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dev81Y0052Uxt080300000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vLmf1AHGfGGT0W3J7K4A:9 a=cnrI9IernICdRUQbPhUA:7 a=-ZM7Ihi0uR58mZroJbfet9qTwWoA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <1861025E7DF54B8980D2F2B1DE596719@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:55:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Mal, > That same night I heard > WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked > him but he was in beacon mode. The WD2XSH stations are NOT authorized to contact amateur stations - only other U.S. "X" stations. HOWEVER, the WE2XGR stations ARE authorized to QSO foreign amateur stations. That's because I requested permission to contact amateur stations in the license application for WE2XGR whilst the ARRL did not receive nor request such permission. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > Hi John > I did work VE1ZZ who gave me 549 when I popped out of the qsb at 0117 utc. > I > had been 339 for some time before this. It was a good qso and he got his > report etc solid from me. Unfortunately condx have taken a dip since. I > need > another opening like this for a qso with the USA. That same night I heard > WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked > him but he was in beacon mode. I have not heard him since. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > > >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 >> "hamilton mal" wrote: >> >> > Hi all >> > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing >> > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the >> > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out >> >> Hello Mal and LF group, >> >> I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening >> (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. >> >> >> I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that >> night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may >> have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed >> the late night excitement. >> >> Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in >> which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this >> month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in >> stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and >> finally 10mW. >> >> At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent >> a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX >> power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together >> fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers >> correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine >> what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? >> >> Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my >> audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while >> driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've >> heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear >> Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to >> Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard >> from Dave later in the evening. >> >> >> >> The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this >> becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. >> >> >> Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. >> >> John GM4SLV >> Clousta, Shetland >> IP90gg >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-6e247431de7271; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:48:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC68-6e247431de7271; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:48:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuXCU-0002D6-Tu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuXCU-0002Cx-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuXCQ-0001Rz-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from kc3ol.dynip.com ([72.128.40.136]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20071120174739.RJXL28763.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@kc3ol.dynip.com> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:39 +0000 Received: from kc3olvista by kc3ol.dynip.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000044555.msg for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:37 -0600 From: "Ted Holdahl" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:01 -0600 Message-ID: <00da01c82b9d$5b50f030$11f2d090$@dynip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgrhzwpfzVDs/BLTFGzyzvheXKA6wAFZ3jw Content-Language: en-us X-Spam-Processed: kc3ol.dynip.com, Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:37 -0600 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Mal, I am using a class E PA on 137.777 kHz. It is an IRFP260N MOSFET driven by a MC34151. Efficiency is about 89% and the output power is 290 watts. Ted, WD2XYW ___________________ www.kc3ol.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:56 AM To: rsgb Subject: LF: CLASS E Hi all Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe someone has a push pull design. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b8c472f9cff249; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:45:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c472f9cff249; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:45:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAgq-0001eW-70 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAgp-0001eN-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAgm-0005C1-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:03 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cce.1cc3a037 (52333) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (acb3ae92.ipt.aol.com [172.179.174.146]) by ciaaol-d05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD057-cc6d472f9cbb315; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: -132: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XGJ, Holmes Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.B73D91D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.B73D91D0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Warren & LF, on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this evening - really magnificent in binoculars! 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(/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.143 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest 189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com 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h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=crEIrDdOk+q6aZ164g4JxMyiUDvHiny5N8dnZiNAlGlwnGBsjNopywdzEGfSyb7gVu+RgLhIxBvuoyNCfiTpNiEwjihNLQ6IyR05G7U8fl8/2yvXv07oqmATDn3h3puKGfjfeF7Vba5zY7xQPI9+Fji5Ib6bcqXljxLUGy6uDN8=; X-YMail-OSG: ABNfYBsVM1kQxbAPFevgU6XzDq9_WlM3D2F3eXTBxJXCkiUbUzU1xGl3rehdqlEiCx9NvgJrv9jcMxLp600iAgHAEixunIdhEYZ9m3M_dxx7IQDBsUNov4WUsrY- Received: from [78.149.54.242] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:55 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <244962.22142.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: re: LF:503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John I just came in and heard G4WGT test and rows of 5 dots. Good signal 559 on 503.6khz. Mike, G3GMS IO95GB Re. message I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-693473ab71c25; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:52:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB61-693473ab71c25; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:51:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDyD-00030p-5X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDyC-00030g-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:36 +0000 Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDy9-0003V1-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:36 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IsDxn-0004gB-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:11 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:09 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c8269b$837f17f0$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acgmm32xl9ZB6PMtSCaHqabe10e4Lg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + News coming from the Conference is that agenda item 1.15 relating to 136 kHz passed the second reading and a global allocation at 135.7-137.8 kHz looks to be a reality when the Final Acts are signed Friday. I guess it will still need National administrtations to put in place actual allocations, where they don't already exist. 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-95a472f8434359; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:59:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF048-95a472f8434359; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:59:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip92W-0007zq-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip92W-0007zh-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip92S-0003ug-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D1DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:30 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105205830.092a3d6e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: re. LF QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Mike Thayne wrote: > Hi John > > I was out of the house for your earlier tests but I have been hearing > you from 2000z to now 2040z with some QSB from 339 to 449. Can > see/read you on the waterfall but bursts of static spoiling the > display. Will continue to monitor until 2100 but then have to go QRT. > > cheers > > Mike > G3GMS > > Thanks Mike and everyone else. I'm now going to QRP to 10mW ERP (approx) from 2W TX power from 21:00 until approx 22:30 Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9a747395f5a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:25:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a747395f5a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:25:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr3Z-0007cA-8t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr3Y-0007c1-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:36 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irr3W-0004iE-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:36 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC04DA4D8 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071113082327.5ca545bd@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Extended Grabber range Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 k2ors@comcast.net wrote: > John, > What is the URL for the grabber? Is it set for cw or QRSS? > > Thanks, > Sorry LF, forgot the URL http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm It's QRSS-3 speed Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1bb472f62ff205; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:40:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC23-1bb472f62ff205; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:37:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6pO-0005IL-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6pO-0005IC-3k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6pK-0000ui-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588ACDA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:37:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:37:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > Hello John, > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > Chris > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > Thanks Chris and Dave. Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b29474f2ab13bd; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:10:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b29474f2ab13bd; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:10:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqdz-0002hT-Dj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqdz-0002hK-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqdu-0001ny-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:58 +0000 X-Trace: 641768259-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALK5TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:09:24 +0000 Message-ID: <00c101c832cc$1e7747f0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.191 Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen. My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the same lines but stronger. Any comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a0e47443d1a71; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:14:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG048-a0e47443d1a71; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:13:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuqKY-0005Pw-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuqKU-0005Pn-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0142.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.142] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuqKQ-0000DJ-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:26 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003EC279 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:05 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,217b7d146d527493,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2828:3027:3318:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3872:3873:5007:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev><20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local><003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:20:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n You were a late starter on 500. I would say you have missed a lot. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E > > and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for > > correct operation. > > I didn't miss it Mal... > > > Nowhere have I seen your reported: > > DC Input Volts/Current > RF Output Power > Efficiency > > > Others have replied to you with their own measured efficiency vs power > so perhaps you can furnish us with the same. After all you've certainly > made some exhaustive optimisations of the output tuning components to > achieve the perfect class E drain waveforms. > > > John > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a5b4737856267; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b4737856267; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:42:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLVi-0003ET-4o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLVh-0003EK-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLVd-0006q5-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071111224212m1200gpdmpe>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:22 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:10 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "F6CWN" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:10 +0000 Message-Id: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jeff, What means WAOUH ? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "F6CWN" > WAOUH! > > 73: Jeff (F6CWN) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM > Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! > > > Hello LF , > > Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-19b4730487e259; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:57:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB51-19b4730487e259; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:57:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpM6p-0007Ti-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpM6p-0007TZ-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpM6n-0008CD-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC8DA4D8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:56:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:54:11 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071106105411.120e22cc@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -781: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:09:34 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > John > Your beacon was peaking S5 at 1732z then qsa 0 for periods and up > again, characteristic of insufficient power for the freq at that time. > It is the same on HF with qrp stns, in and out of the noise, whereas > qro stns are solid copy. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Thanks Mal, This was the purpose of the test and you've confirmed my own thoughts on the matter. A few dB makes a huge difference when signals are close to the noise - the difference between "workable" and "not there". I'm speaking only of ear-copied CW. QRP, in and of itself, is fine. I'm a G-QRP Club member (#2377) and rarely exceed 10W on HF. I know 5W is the QRP "limit" and I do often work at 5W or less. I find an extra 3dB, up to 10W, makes a massive difference at times. It's almost never necessary to exceed 10W for most purposes. On 500 it looks like really low ERPs can occasionally be used there is a practical limit to getting workable S/N ratios. For reasonable path lengths this seems to be at the very least 25mW ERP and up. Any lower and it's a very, very hit and miss affair. All depends of course on the receiving station's noise levels. Trying to run at 10W or less is not really going to net many longer range QSOs except under very good conditions. Thanks to all who sent reports. It was a useful exercise. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-95c474c83e2192; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:54:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c474c83e2192; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:53:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix7QS-0005cS-Ao for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:53:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix7QR-0005cJ-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix7QN-0001Xt-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2321CDA4D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:47 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071127205247.2974c279@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: 500kHz SM-GM QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I have just had a QSO with Gus SM6BHZ. He emailed to say he was hearing me on 501.3 and was QSX 505.105. Despite the other strong signals from the beacons he was a nice strong 599. We exchanged reports/name/QTH/Locator. It is intersting to note that despite the QTH of Sweden Gus is only 814km from me - closer than many of the G stations I work! John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8cd474e91183d1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:15:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd474e91183d1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxgPf-0001To-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxgPf-0001Tf-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxgPa-00081w-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:21 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c83270$9985ae20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2007 10:14:21.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BBE3900:01C83270] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.199,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C83278.FB1AC8C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj time:o2:30z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > There has been very little response from anyone else about class > E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of > amplifier, or do not use them. Er....have I missed something...? I seem to remember several people responded when you asked the same question on Nov 4th. There were plenty of answers to your query about efficiency etc. with a few measured values from real amplifiers and some discussion of the theory and practice of switching PAs. I understood from the level of response that several people (myself included) were using Class-E amps. Perhaps this time round they have decided not to repeat their answers. I think that most people, despite your snide implication, have in fact "heard about this type of amplifier" and possibly know enough about them not to need to go over the same ground every few weeks for your entertainment. Since you've furnished us with some scant information about your own Class-E experiments perhaps you'd like to enlighten us to the actual performance figures, the hard facts that that you've tried to solicit from others? DC supply volts/current? Output power? Efficiency? Harmonic and spurious emissions? Temeprature rise of the heatsink after 10 hours key down at full power? Enquiring minds would like to know.... John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b80472fb267170; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:16:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD062-b80472fb267170; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:16:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpC6m-0003EK-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpC6l-0003EB-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:55 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpC6i-0005ED-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B22381C00084 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:15:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.31]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 71EBD1C00081 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:15:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071106001546466.71EBD1C00081@mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:15:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.084 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc=20 feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's ,=20 past P =3D I*V ? Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing=20 'spurious side bands' ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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(we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp106.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 13:30:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Cz4f2.QVM1lqctY6xk_uIFRpMaoN2YGmH7uIYCB34.i3zcqy.5bjOHC6KnGVwyyoZdnkPFI7mw-- Message-ID: <473D9B68.70008@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:30:16 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, There have been storms over here so some guys have been off the air for safety reason's. 73's Mike WE0h WD2XSH/16 mal wrote: > Hi all > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing hrd > from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. ... > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9d3472da4a21c2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:53:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d3472da4a21c2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:53:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod6S-0006i0-V7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod6S-0006hr-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iod6P-0000PB-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 X-Trace: 630605995-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKYyLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQPg Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 10:52:45 +0000 Message-ID: <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> <000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:52:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good Morning LF, My thanks to Graham - G0NBD, Jim - M0BMU & Dave - G3WCB for the very interesting reports & comments regarding my narrow shift RTTY tests. It looks quite likely that this mode could be competition for normal CW QSO's at 20 wpm were RTTY 45 Bd gives the equivalent of 60 wpm without taking too much bandwidth on a small band allocation ( 23 Hz in this case). The findings have surprised me in such that I believed that the narrow shift could be a problem but as Jim stated with a little care tuning to the signal a very good percentage copy can be achieved. In Jims case the distance is 268 Km & Dave 274 Km. During the test I was also monitoring Johns (GM4SLV Shetland) grabber IP90GG at 739 Km & Daves (G3YXM Birmingham) grabber IO92BK at 143 Km. The traces there were such that at Birmingham the qsb periods between dips were short & deep but at Shetland the QSB period between dips was much longer & dips shallower maintaining a longer readable trace. The traces after dark at Shetland were so strong that my RTTY signal was producing a solid white line so in those terms we could expect the narrow RTTY would have given a 100% copy. Perhaps John could send me or make available to some captures of last night so I can include them on my web site at the next update, even better if there were a sound bite available. Thanks to all for watching & reporting. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your test, up > to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The upper trace is > G0MRF's > beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. As far > as > readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were printing > out > with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor on the > spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with similar signal > levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been comfortable audible CW > copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are quite variable - For a short > QSO of a couple of minutes, this wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would > require standing by waiting for the signal level to build up after a > fade - > also rather like CW. > > I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be tuned > quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and I found it > was > neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards G0MRF's > CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal carriers was only > 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth of the narrow RTTY looks > quite similar to PSK31. > > Thanks for the test, > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a944737207d180; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:32:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a944737207d180; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:32:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEn0-000296-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEn0-00028x-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrEmx-0003iP-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9DE3EA0DE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB8D3EA11D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4737206A.5010605@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon XYW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020902010707090600000803" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020902010707090600000803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, No the problems, even if Joe goes back on the frequency which it was , it is perfectly visible (since 0.1 Hz lower! ) I said that to joke with=20 Joe ;-) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Joe, Jean-Pierre, > > Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for t= he past month or so. > Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI= 0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to th= e East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast.=20 > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 > =20 >> Hello Joe, >> Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place >> is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon >> on 777.05 with "XYW" like callsign . My grabber has the >> open arms to receive VO1NA ! >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> Joe Craig a =E9crit : >> =20 >>> Thank-you JP for watching. >>> >>> I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! >>> >>> 73 >>> Joe >>> >>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Hello Joe , >>>> >>>> On 189,9498 kHz : >>>> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anythi= ng! ) >>>> >>>> The captures of night are at : >>>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ >>>> >>>> >>>> 73 J-P f1afj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu --------------020902010707090600000803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren,

No the problems, even if Joe goes back on the frequency which it was ,
it is perfectly visible (since 0.1 Hz lower! ) I said that to joke with Joe ;-)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : 
Joe, Jean-Pierre,

    Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for the past month or so.
Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to the East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast. 

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
  
Hello Joe,
Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place
is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon
on 777.05 with “XYW” like callsign . My grabber has the
open arms to receive VO1NA !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a écrit :
    
Thank-you JP for watching.

I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO!

73
Joe

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:

  
      
Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! )

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















    
        

  
      
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--------------020902010707090600000803-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b6d474060621b8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:55:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d474060621b8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:55:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmTx-00036I-BK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmTw-000369-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmTs-0002bD-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E00393A25 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:38 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,988610f3302c5d25,f57d30f804484522,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:946:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2559:2562:2689:2828:3353:3636:3690:3743:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m71-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.71]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c829fb$53914aa0$47e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-19747359eee19e; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:07:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB47-19747359eee19e; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:07:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqp6y-00049C-89 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqp6x-000493-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:51 +0000 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqp6v-0004Or-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:51 +0000 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so846721mue for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=L3qNTvngJzkxt2PzhQXYevN/BZzUYDYO9nGkvJTrqYE=; b=ZrTXmImQbczRYZ4XNNgVDZV68CPLUGNZSSOveq3xsJHe2wnZjGfzWG3iJ0d0HujOgjHZHw1y1bIBWBXs2MzkIPSUr8haFUUGQichGO0cGi8hSp2gJeBCAdDw4MhUlZ9+epN6fU7Bn7zdx3MpirtAWYFvYOUNf05sY7X72R+Dt98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Fq49ErukaI6w0l4+kWgrntqp1E7jSAdOgpQQO8bOj2nOEXhHFLF3Udpq44PI0Rm6EE56FAY0Lnv38hNYj/mqgDmW3wYEkS2QGfcl41g0xfHujQWur/TQoVE40Q4Mv/DvU9u4eOlX4BJ1rR5zmmKv4V4zqdgopeIcj1nq6COt+Zw= Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr2364289fgb.1194696408512; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 minutes. band noise level low at present. Chris G3XVL ------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 minutes.
band noise level low at present.

Chris

G3XVL
------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-949473c257c338; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:54:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF027-949473c257c338; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:54:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IscM3-0006xh-6l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IscM2-0006xY-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0188.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.188] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IscLy-00084A-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the time, and vy strong at times. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB41-183473aadf1af; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:12:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB27-183473aadf1af; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:12:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDMI-0002iz-WC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDMI-0002iq-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDME-0007uU-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EFE3EA0E9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FA73EA0E1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AADE5.8020908@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:21 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , I copy : WD2XGJ ( vy strong 30dB over noise ! 00:00 > 01:30 ) , WD2XKO ( good ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC42-11a473efa61f4; 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Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B913C495B8B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1195309626.473efa3ab523a@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Heard G3KEV Calling CQ on 502.5kHz 14.20UTC in KP03SD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Heard G3KEV Calling CQ on 502.5kHz 14.20UTC in KP03SD. No QSX 3533... I called back on 3533 just in case but no reply. It is only "blue hour" yet here, must still be full daylight in UK. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa, KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b1c4731b0ea387; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:35:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC048-b1c4731b0ea387; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:34:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipk70-0004jM-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipk6z-0004jD-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:25 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.213]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipk6t-0005FA-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:25 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W43 ([207.46.11.206]) by bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:34:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 03:34:12 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 12:34:12.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[80874E70:01C8213A] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.732,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_" Subject: RE: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Warren, Jay, Dex - et al=20 =20 Looked for you at my dusk and into your dawn - nothing that I could say was=20= a signal. Pretty noisey here tonight but whats new! =20 Thanks for the signals chaps - asta manyana =20 Laurence 9V 1 LF > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000> From: w1tag@w1tag.com> To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite> > Jean-Pie= rre,> > Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for abo= ut > 30 minutes last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the= > last week.> > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0G= et it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL100626= 971033=3D --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John, Warren, Jay, Dex - et al
 
Looked for you at my dusk and into your dawn - nothing that I could say was=20= a signal. Pretty noisey here tonight but whats new!
 
Thanks for the signals chaps - asta manyana
 
Laurence 9V 1 LF

> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000
> From: w1tag@w1tag.com<= BR>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Pr= opagation Tonite
>
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Jay and I ar= e both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for about
> 30 minut= es last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the
> las= t week.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>= ;


Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96=20= together at last. Get it now! =3D --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a11472a3ee92a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:03:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a11472a3ee92a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:02:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InhAh-0001Qq-W6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InhAh-0001Qh-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InhAe-0007gW-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59555700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2D7B7700008A for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101210139186.2D7B7700008A@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good point's john . >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be > heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease<<< But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation for semi local stations 'We' who live close to each other either get everything or nothing at all, those who live a little further a field ,no pun intended, will receive nearly all stations on a regular basis.. 'water water everywhere and not a drop to drink' >>>However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you want to work what you hear you must approach reciprocity of ERP, considerations of local noise floors aside.<<< The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, however, domestic generated noise levels appear to be distortional high, which is unfortunate, as the adage goes 'if you can here them, you can work them' may not actually stand up to investigation , path losses may not be reciprocal , and the noise floor at the distant station may well be significantly higher For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. The same setup 0.5 / 1 on 80 mtrs . It would take a significant increase to address this situation, which I fear will exist at any 'urban' location. >>>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so.<<< 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach something in the region of 100mW , For a lift of 'one' s-point @ 6dB that's up to 100 watts and as can be observed during the many cw qso's signal outages look to be in the ratio of approx 3:1 20 seconds good signal in every 60 , one s-point is not going to decrease that by very much ! dx reports have been quite consistent , with good copy , , flutter replacing the deep qsb observed at 'close' range. May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense of the word .. G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b8b472a572d32b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:46:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b472a572d32b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:46:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IninO-00025l-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IninN-00025c-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:49 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IninI-0005iQ-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 68735 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 22:42:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=o9YcjYBWdD5qI7bDyncQrnkAFdGvW8ZYuCKID9u4a7BJxWtBvxFGys43oqw5tyBDGEXCwudLorsAd3DRg8Qs3lDSl928KLlrdHBMIn9P5zakQ+cYLXPVBmPq9/cD/zLidRMjVQSJyBM10ZekuTSMbaCGSwudTcvXvVVm5LFFboA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.21.150 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 22:42:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nx0BD1IVM1kbqQwTNuPbugL.jn.l3RjXW29Kidu7xKdVUZekk79J.4kSLv0O1VZyuUVnp_7gMg-- Message-ID: <007201c81cd8$882ca500$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:42:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Graham, ah but yes it will!!. The skip you talk about is due to the ground wave fading below the noise qrm at ranges before the skywave starts to come in at good strength. This is well known in the Lowfer (160 to 180kHz 1 Watt DC) fraternity in the States. the higher power Part 5 stations dont get this problem. On the commercial station power levels the ground wave equals the skywave strength at somewhere around 700 km (CCIR reccs), and if you plug the figures into to the late Reg Edwards GRNDWAV4 program you will see how the ground wave fades with decreasing power level. Those of us that live in domestic areas have to put up with a higher level of blanketing noise than John, which make the situation far worse. A little bit more power could enable us to achieve better groundwave ranges in daytime than are possible on top-band. Then add to that the possibility of daytime skywave at longer distances and it could well help. There will always be a rapid fading at shortish distances (100 to300km) but more power would give some fade margin so the signals didnt go right out. On the data, a "locked" signal should be somewhere around at least 6dB better under fading but it has to flywheel its parameters through the fade, not suddenly start hunting for them again when the signal disappears. Much data software is not written for these LF type conditions, Amtor ARQ would be good with some error correction and longer bursts than 3 chars.... possibly adaptive to match the fading conditions. The origin SITOR was designed for HF conditions which have different problems. Selective fading is not really an issue at LF. I was involved (at work) in a kite fly about a Marine Radio data protocol that would have used an (A)X25 type of protocol with narrow bandwidth and a packet handshake that would have been very effective. The ultimate is GPS locked and that is very effective. If you want to see the the effectiveness of a locked system look at WOLF. This is not designed for "conditions adaptive" operation though, but I have copies signals way below the level QRSS can be seen on 136kHz. Even the "QSO mode" Wolf B put in does not make it friendy for qso work. A good system should go quickly when conditions are good and slow down, integrating the repeats, in bad spells, until the packet checksums agree. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations > Good point's john . > > > > > > >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be > > heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease<<< > > > > But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip > distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission losses > at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the skip distance > , then even more power will not resolve the situation for semi local > stations > > > > 'We' who live close to each other either get everything or nothing at all, > those who live a little further a field ,no pun intended, will receive > nearly all stations on a regular basis.. > > > > 'water water everywhere and not a drop to drink' > > > > > > >>>However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you > want to work what you hear you must approach reciprocity of ERP, > considerations of local noise floors aside.<<< > > > > > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, however, > domestic generated noise levels appear to be distortional high, which is > unfortunate, as the adage goes 'if you can here them, you can work them' > may not actually stand up to investigation , path losses may not be > reciprocal , and the noise floor at the distant station may well be > significantly higher > > > > For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , 0 > 5 > , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) reads a > constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. The same setup 0.5 / 1 > on 80 mtrs . It would take a significant increase to address this situation, > which I fear will exist at any 'urban' location. > > > > >>>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish > powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so.<<< > > > > > > 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach > something in the region of 100mW , For a lift of 'one' s-point @ 6dB that's > up to 100 watts and as can be observed during the many cw qso's signal > outages look to be in the ratio of approx 3:1 20 seconds good signal in > every 60 , one s-point is not going to decrease that by very much ! dx > reports have been quite consistent , with good copy , , flutter replacing > the deep qsb observed at 'close' range. > > > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense of the > word .. > > > > G .. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a184735704dcd; 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Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:47:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4735703E.2040404@online.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:47:58 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-92f474336902e8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:34:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f474336902e8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:33:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuYq9-0002P5-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:32:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuYq9-0002Ow-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:32:57 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuYq4-0001eL-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the red variety for dipping the Weller bit in... http://www.wireless.org.uk/gallery/gallerlf.htm 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of G4gvw@aol.com Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Looks good John! What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the re= d=20 variety for dipping the Weller bit in... 
 
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 G4gvw@aol.com
Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and=20 website

Looks good John!
 
What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the solde= ring=20 bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is= =20 this a continuing work in progress?
 
 
 
 
73 de=20= Pat G4GVW es=20 gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe,=20 UK
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a94472f756a3d4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:56:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a94472f756a3d4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:56:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip83U-0006an-Ri for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip83U-0006ae-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip83R-00049u-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 X-Trace: 642223994-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJYEL0dYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 19:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.200 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi john, LF, Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > Cheers, > > John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b644735ea492c2; 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U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.277,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ua9cs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010801000201090203020404" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010801000201090203020404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF! Last night copy of UA9CS (137778.85) and UA4WPF Dmitry RA3YO --------------010801000201090203020404 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------070508020306060402040902" --------------070508020306060402040902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF!

Last night  copy of  UA9CS (137778.85) and UA4WPF



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smtpauth14.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.39]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2zk-0006e3-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:32:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 13404 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 14:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpauth14.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.39) with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2007 14:31:04 -0000 Message-ID: <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:31:31 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thanks for the XES report. The signal on 137.7774 is WD2XKO (W4DEX op). John Andrews, W1TAG henny van elst wrote: > *who ?* From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB14-18b473750e2103; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB35-18b473750e2103; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:58:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrI0O-0002RJ-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrI0O-0002RA-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrI0L-0005F2-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 X-Trace: 627415122-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIbfNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 18:57:51 +0000 Message-ID: <039801c82494$c2bc9e00$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:57:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, I am going to stop continuous test at about 1900utc & switch to RTTY, 45 bd, 23 Hz shift & call CQ on 503.600 KHz, I will be watching the band from 501.500 KHz to 504.000 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-8b9472e34b3197; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA073-8b9472e34b3197; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iomh7-0005D1-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iomh7-0005Cs-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iomh3-0001uL-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 X-Trace: 621897870-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAH/DLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 21:07:15 +0000 Message-ID: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:07:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Lubos, Look at John's GM4SLV grabber, I can see the dots on there. http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm 73 - Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: LF: [500] Dots again > Hallo ALL! > I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal > is on the band again. > Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two > frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. > Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-91a4735947c153; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:22:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4735947c153; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:22:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqoPW-00041c-A7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqoPV-00041T-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqoPS-000455-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81923EA10D for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BB93EA0BD for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47359451.4070305@online.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, The =93Grabber=94 functioned well this night, there was a problem on the back sight of the captures. I did the =93housework=94 in the files of the grabber, all is correct now! I think that will have to be best the next night. You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of the captures of the night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ Are available the winter 2006/2007 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF098-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESW-0003eC-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESU-0003e3-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqESP-0003ln-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 15276 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 20:10:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iICOSlf3WkekmMOTcvAsGgsw2IthRJ3WmpLwlDDvOZhjv46uF21IwMe4kqB8smuTwLSer6jOMMkHT7UaWBkW/pFyBl9AYwbnVY308419s1UwPn9QZ3+FkiFF+4u89dJk2uLqDUCtfy4ch0zmUO+iU0M9NBhE/T8U2B8xaI8HM04= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.66.121 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 20:10:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LwRfX2oVM1nz5nfebLJ3FabE2KHdjS1QbF1HSm19h.rU.2T1e0B3qzaTQI81im6czk_1EZYzygM5xyCfrtx7Hpb5n0T7xiwQ3.ekgq6oYt4.4GKg Message-ID: <009c01c82243$62914560$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:10:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.366 Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Andy I never remember hearing anyone detecting a resonance that high. the first is about 7.8Hz (from memory) and there are "harmonics" at approx 8Hz intervals....only they are not exact multiples, Only in the very quietest locations can you detect peaks above 30Hz. There is unfortunaely a lot of what Renato calls Pseudo-science attracted to phenomena like this. If we manage to get his book published in English it is a good read. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the trace. Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from a Russian transmitter. Andy G4JNT On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > (the latter with radio direction finding). > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > the E-field spectrogram. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC22-1194742abec2c8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:42:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC41-1194742abec2c8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:42:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPc2-0000Wl-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPc1-0000WV-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:45 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPbu-0007mR-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951DB3EA12C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559953EA100 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:37 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-113472ef1fd3ca; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:35:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC35-113472ef1fd3ca; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:35:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IozId-0004ne-GS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IozIc-0004nV-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IozIa-00046x-9D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:18 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB71DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:33:22 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, Looking through Chris G3XIZ's "operators" list I see no mention of G3BIK. I have seen QRSS-3 from G3BIK on 502kHz on a few occasions - including this weekend sometime. I have no email address for him and have never read of anyone else hearing/seeing/working him. I will try to find an archived screengrab showing his QRSS. Regards, John GM4SLV Clousta, Shetland IP90gg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8b5474055a8d4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA067-8b5474055a8d4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlm2-0002dT-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlm1-0002dJ-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:26 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itlly-00025Q-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:25 +0000 X-Trace: 630287018-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKbjP0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <00d201c829f4$fb81b580$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711180655y3b8880b8o3f288bb14ad75ed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Chris, LF, Thank you for the report, keep watching. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Gary, > I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so > far. Your about S3. > Chris, G3XVL > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> shift >> over greater distances. >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a5b474a870f327; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:43:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b474a870f327; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:42:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwZX9-00012s-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwZX9-00012j-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwZX5-0001vF-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071126084132.UJRC26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:32 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071126084118.GFBO29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:18 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> In-reply-to: <27041196043948@webmail15.yandex.ru> References: 1650000000260747633 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? I was transmitting QRSS60 from 1900 to 2230. I will do the same=20 tonight. Thanks for listening. 73 de Mike =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Hi Mike! > Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. > What's time your was in the air? >=20 >=20 > 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): >=20 > > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the > > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out > > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver > > and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system > > and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am > > happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > > Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB >=20 > =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C9 – =ED=CE=CF=C7=CF =C6=CF=D4=CF= =CB =CE=C5 =C2=D9=D7=C1=C5=D4 http://fotki.yandex.ru/ >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC44-10847341a7a263; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC24-10847341a7a263; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:29:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPED-0006Mq-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPEC-0006Mh-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPE9-0003g4-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9053EA0F1 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6B3EA0D2 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47341A1C.8080506@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b58474f366b266; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:00:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58474f366b266; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:00:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxrQM-0003Cd-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxrQL-0003CU-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxrQH-0001xK-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jf2C1Y00B0Fqzac050de00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jlzi1Y0052Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=67-8etzwxtoA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=fCTMGAnQE9W6wEbKLysA:9 a=f2sq1SrknXjQfLZLPoeQ-MZPh6AA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 a=vAT464E3v9QcW7ZqU9YA:9 a=KL8iS4qXOaaJgpLh0TcA:7 a=W8aHrJbRqcHAUR5ae30UlJ9tWNcA:4 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <9A095DEC108B48CF9D2396355D488EB2@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:59:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.274,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, I believe its a 3CX3000. I forwarded your comment to Bob for clarifca= tion. 73 Warren K2ORS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: LF: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum It looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowin= g away behind that slot? 73, dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org]On Behalf Of K2ORS Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D446&posted=3D1#post= 446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. STRAP!! ------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
 
      I believe it= s a=20 3CX3000.  I forwarded your comment to Bob for clarifcation.
73 Warren K2ORS
 
----- Original Message -----
Dave G3WCB
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4= :28=20 PM
Subject: LF: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictu= res on=20 the Lowfer Forum

It=20 looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing a= way=20 behind that slot?
 
73,=20 dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 K2ORS
Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:=20 LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum

------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-951473af9a4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-951473af9a4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIOB-0003oJ-5O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIOA-0003oA-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:42 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsIO7-0002Ga-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:42 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Nov 2007 13:34:33 -0000 Received: from p54864CD4.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.103.48]) [84.134.76.212] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 14:34:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18kHw5FHJskm58puwzaxJNc5/mBbWAKv8bC5hyDZe kQ0W9zArbsfKAQ Message-ID: <473AF963.6060802@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:34:27 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> In-Reply-To: <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus and LF, > since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png > Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else noticed this problem? I noted the same QRM here. There are reports on another Maillist of a DRM transmission from the DLF during the evening on 153kHz. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-93f474cd28027a; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:29:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f474cd28027a; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:29:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxCeK-0006Ps-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxCeJ-0006Pj-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:39 +0000 Received: from smtp103.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxCeJ-0001xL-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 88044 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2007 02:27:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YlKEEZVE4DrNd/SN+7LWcZEpMpe0OyZksXujqfAFX/ZgLizyL7fCjwni0qpuvgdJFzLcBORnAPaXaGpCHQOy7Bjf5kwQ8QcTwnOD6b+NZ2Mdy8CW/Pv83KfRUjtEhIT5dsF5/wPriR9kLycM/+AF82syZBC0eAS8nGzxgNgObVA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp103.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 02:27:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cSqs4jIVM1nYukkbTOk6uhyyUSiA0qdoj1sAJyHDCy7sR8oQyPuvu8xUb0CW9V3_YrNT1MKNFg-- Message-ID: <474CD212.5000104@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:27:30 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Many storms over on this side of the pond. Some stations are off while the storms blow through or on for very short times. Mike /16 hamilton mal wrote: > All > Since the unusually good condx a couple of weeks ago the band has reverted > back to normal. I have not heard Uncle Sams boys. since then and I dont > suppose they have heard me. When condx on 500 are normal it is hard to make > any impression with a QRP station. When propagation is exceptionally good > then the proberbial wet string and a handful of microwatts will achieve > miracles. > EU reports are all well down at present, S1 seems good along with the QSB > disappearing tricks. !! > 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a05474052821a8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:56:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a05474052821a8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:56:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlYy-0002Lv-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlYx-0002Lm-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:55 +0000 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlYv-0001v4-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:55 +0000 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so1592372mue for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yjqOYPBTHkHdg+sQNPOhKsgO9DUMKGW0yPmEel+Nc2c=; b=R8Sk+DrsAK44P5j+abNa7TbfVXnh8aUg93k7vPm8ChgyYMKe4mBVbjUaPA1X0OTbnEaMuKZdASCLyFNeUBnmktL5kLbNyt+Kf5nxDydehaGSsvdS/U0Ui79LBGPVW9nkPE1HBfzkhpDE04M6Um+Nv38JBPudcLFaunKjf8ge/T4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ftmBnOczBigbHbZwpoEuZWLYzu1ZpAdx6uDNtTpUQBaUpjvc6Z3A4fISwgTwXtvHFCdayjK5eO3d1sqjvetsdhjL/8e0da0340bmgIrYST0I5aqVidHs2yik3tG78T5dlHWwbP7xKXOOsix5sKnR9B6pJGGz/5nR0S2h06QNEmw= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr2037976fga.1195397752465; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.3.3 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711180655y3b8880b8o3f288bb14ad75ed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:52 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gary, I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so far. Your about S3. Chris, G3XVL On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > > It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow > shift > over greater distances. > > I will appreciate any reports. > > The software I am using is MMTTY. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ------=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gary,
 I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so far. Your about S3.
Chris, G3XVL

On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT < g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,

Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift.

It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow shift
over greater distances.

I will appreciate any reports.

The software I am using is MMTTY.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Like u say packet radio is back, why did it go away if it was so good G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching > class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this reflector, > remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that > packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic > radio , > > > > We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , > there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may be ? > just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the > CIO ... old habits die hard ... > > > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-120472f45d7389; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:03:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC48-120472f45d7389; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:33:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4sy-0002n6-Kz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4sy-0002mx-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from 10.uvtc.net ([62.249.6.10] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip4st-00035s-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from gusham2mq8wmls ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:32:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c81fc9$94117a00$0964a8c0@gusham2mq8wmls> From: "Gus" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:33:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Pse, put me on the list Jim. Tnx Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a4c4747e7c335f; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:58:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c4747e7c335f; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:58:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqpK-00056n-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqpJ-00056e-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:25 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.116]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvqpG-0001HB-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:25 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:54 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c82e77$eeb27d80$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2007 08:56:54.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5D71A80:01C82E77] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2411.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40" ------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice capture xgj 13:00z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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pndkGDiOqMb1G4YbeYkodDPO4EKK5YOorVwrajcaAljgXh0/5//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1ba4746ad432b; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC22-1ba4746ad432b; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:36:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVox-0003eu-7I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVos-0003el-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvVom-0002i7-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992013EA0C7 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543543EA113 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:26 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-fe473b8b7f2fc; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:58:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com 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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254502987 References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:56:52 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: 501.1 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi All! 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight: http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it? Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3. -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a62473aee7248; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:48:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a62473aee7248; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:47:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsHe5-0003fr-IP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsHe4-0003fi-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:04 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsHe1-000254-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:04 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:52 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <00da01c826bc$5c813d60$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2007 12:46:53.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EAABED0:01C826BC] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.208,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xsh1411.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C826C4.BE3355E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0" ------=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture wd2xsh time:12:40z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! My QSL will be direct to you. GN and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C82016.CDA26340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo OM Finba= r!

Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your s= ignal on 501.250kHz was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna – see on snapshots.

I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in=20= the Czech Republic! My QSL will be direct to you.

 

GN and 73

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

 

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CiiigAooooAKKKKACiiigAooooAKKKKACnxMyyAqu5uwplPcBXIGcfWmu4COWLMWHzE85ptF FIAooooAKKKKACiiigAooooAKKKKAP/Z ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C82016.CDA26340-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-956474d8a4528f; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:33:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF044-956474d8a4528f; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:33:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxOuC-0007aG-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxOuC-0007a7-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:52 +0000 Received: from smtp115.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.106.146]) by 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(we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp115.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 15:32:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pyXINGwVM1mQMqkNDcQtVWnRkR_npsj2XmnPreTqQRaxrA34oAW6sP0EI90uYOZxS7EVwhTianw9N1KHY1kAyLYdtNNfn.Bc2aNJo9Hqase.h7EBwvw- Message-ID: <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:32:42 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: New Forum for LF & MF people... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php New forum for anything you want to say about LF &/or MF operating, equipment, whatever is on your mind. Put it in threads so no more digging through a gazillion email's reflected...Missed something or want to look something up next year? Sure, forums don't send info once, it is stored on a server in threads. Very handy. Try it out. Works excellent. Chat box, 100 megs of file space. Smokin fast. Talk about anything...did I say modern? hi hi... Ted's the man behind the forum. Awesome, a big thank you Ted!!! Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b64472e00842d2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:25:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64472e00842d2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:25:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IojDu-00020V-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IojDt-00020L-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:21 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IojDo-0004FN-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 655FA7000088 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:25:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3E85A7000086 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:25:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104172511256.3E85A7000086@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002101c81f07$b3a4c010$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005801c81e54$30a624a0$0e00000a@AGB> <004101c81ed0$89223390$56ebfc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:25:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Packet , ? its alive and well , this is the fastest 'soap box' , ive linked to for a long time ! G > Like u say packet radio is back, why did it go away if it was so good > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > >> The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching >> class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this > reflector, >> remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that >> packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic >> radio , >> >> >> >> We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , >> there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may >> be > ? >> just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the >> CIO ... old habits die hard ... >> >> >> >> G .. >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-acb472c1bf2a2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:58:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB061-acb472c1bf2a2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:57:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCx2-0001lM-Oa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCx2-0001lD-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoCwz-0004GF-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBAC3EA0C6 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4E43EA0BF for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:57:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472C1BE8.4050302@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:57:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ ( good copy at the beginning of night ) On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-968472f5aef40; 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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:03:13 +0100 Message-ID: <472F5AE5.3080200@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:03:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim, .... me too . Thank you ;-) Wolf. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a97474359fa9d; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA107-a97474359fa9d; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCO-0002bi-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCO-0002bZ-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout0190.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.190] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IubCL-0005D2-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003CA811 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:55 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,0336fa5168ba9099,4f97860e33780f19,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:960:967:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2551:2553:2560:2563:2689:2828:2829:3027:3352:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:4860:5007:6117:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m43-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.43]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000301c82bc1$3f2263c0$2be4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <00da01c82b9d$5b50f030$11f2d090$@dynip.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:15:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Ted I expect it is a single fet, single ended ? How does it perform > Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Holdahl" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: LF: RE: CLASS E > Mal, > I am using a class E PA on 137.777 kHz. It is an IRFP260N MOSFET driven by > a MC34151. Efficiency is about 89% and the output power is 290 watts. > > Ted, WD2XYW > ___________________ > www.kc3ol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:56 AM > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: CLASS E > > Hi all > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > someone has a push pull design. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a51472cb218328; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:38:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a51472cb218328; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:38:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMwy-0005Vg-KM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMwy-0005VX-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:24 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMwu-0003xN-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:23 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 81A4B1C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:38:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4746E1C00084 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:38:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103173814292.4746E1C00084@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003101c81e40$59ff6870$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:38:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.093 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Ok Gary, Well , thats the beacon message , I think maxfram is 35 and its just under , I'd rather use the pk232 , but its not wired up for 'tx' , the software may make a better job of 'rx' though Are you closer to Birmingham , ? the signals not showing there ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > Hi Graham, LF, > > Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > >> 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' >> >> 503 Khz cent freq . >> >> Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K >> >> Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per >> qsb cycle ? >> >> G.. >> >> Nb , connect is enabled . >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b60474b2334d6; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:49:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b60474b2334d6; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:49:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjwv-00025H-CN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjwv-000258-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwjwr-0001tO-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97167DA4D8 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:41 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071126194841.0fd10ea4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GM4SLV_grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:26:04 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo John! > Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks! > =20 > 73 and GL on 500kHz! > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS Thanks Lubos, Your beacon is looking very good tonight, as usual! Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC43-1bf4731988e7b; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:51:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf4731988e7b; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:50:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpiUR-0003xl-MD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpiUR-0003xc-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpiUL-0005Vk-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071107105017m11004i7bve>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:50:17 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:15 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:15 +0000 Message-Id: <110720071050.20193.47319866000EAC7B00004EE122007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the nice report and captures! WD2XGJ is using a new antenna - two loops in parallel made of coaxial cable, the 1st loop RG-11 and the other RG-214. (The old antenna was the single RG-11 loop.) Dimensions are 1st loop (RG-11) 24m vertical x 44 m horizontal; 2nd loop RG-214 29m vertical x 46m horizontal. Transmitter Racal-Decca running 1.5kW dc input. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello Warren and all , > > Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! > whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! > Warren, have you the “decca” in service ? because it would be good to > compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay > what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was > high +10dB. > > the captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > > Hello the list... > > > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-95e473f67a01d8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:14:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF054-95e473f67a01d8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:13:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVuq-0006VD-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVup-0006V4-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:27 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVum-0003z5-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 31582 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Agd8a4OJjT+i8XArE8YYJjtzjLJxEDXEldpmz5dWqOGBI6UJGaldw50iHnr/DqM7TaFaTrfIdRqyXNOqD64NHApYiCHTfbXGzngbbpt5IzQIupoSFeNKCi4hznLIqxXwhBZyYXFmM02NeY5+pDEPcVPXZ0kAs9MFFOrOqBkIxZk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.2.233 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mXVq7h8VM1lzlhstnQQgAbZBeeaE5qTPz5jJ8tHGpHeqPCSWfMzAnyCq0X3t78jZuZt5q2k_Cg-- Message-ID: <006a01c82967$0f78bb80$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.362 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thats what the one and a half stop bits are for !! and dating from the days of mechanical serial to parallel converters "clocked" by DC motors with centrifugal governors. Cheers Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. > > > > > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? > > I was intially set at 45.45Bd... > > Will try again at 45 > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ac547303aeb12e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:59:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac547303aeb12e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:59:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLCK-0007BY-Au for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLCJ-0007BP-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:15 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpLCG-0007Kd-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EC34E5CC4 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-vG3afURf9h for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB434E5C03 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8205b$840211a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20071106081349.251d0bc0@lurcher.twatt.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.318,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hallo John! Yes, it will be fine to try QSO cross-band with you. But I didn=B4t see your signal last night. May be in the next time... I am looking forward to continue in these tests.=20 GL and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:14 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:46:08 +0100 Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote: > Hallo OM Finbar! > Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz > was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. > I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! > My QSL will be direct to you. > =20 > GN and 73 > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 Congrtatulations Lubos and Finbar, I heard you Lubos call Finbar after we signed and Mike G3GMS also finished on 80m crossband. You were a good signal here on 80m too Lubos. I wonder if you were copying any of my transmissions and whether we could also have had a cross-band QSO? Well done both. Cheers, --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a5c474e2ca5334; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:06:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA034-a5c474e2ca5334; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:06:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxZiH-0000e1-9C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxZiG-0000ds-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:16 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxZiD-0006kk-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:16 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-218.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.218]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 9B2DC48F5B8 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-218.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.218]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id 0W0qg7WKNuYHwpox for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:00:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LFers, My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and it appears to be galvanised steel. There is no intentional grounding of the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch the ground. Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-d0473ff5ce4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB28-d0473ff5ce4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfNe-00017q-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfNe-00017h-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItfNb-0006uC-9m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCBF3EA0E8 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7D3EA0F1 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC32-108473ede881d9; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:29:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC24-108473ede881d9; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:28:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItMmT-0004g2-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItMmT-0004ft-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItMmO-0001T0-PK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DoLD1Y0070QkzPw0A00H00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:04 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DoU31Y0041pKLLP0800000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ao37ZpKEzWI1z9xigvwA:9 a=y7A8re0uPss6ivq4D5QA:7 a=TfL_0GBjkf42McKlgHPe8HYEeCAA:4 a=6wtEEXghtLAA:10 Message-ID: <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:27:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n WE2XGR/2 will begin operating tonight at 2200Z...listening for callsigns for the first half of each hour (2200-2230Z for example) and will transmit 'WE2XGR/2' during the second half of each hour (2230-0000Z for example). I'll check the 'DX window' during receive periods. Finbar has staked out 501.3 and Mal has 502.5 kHz and if you have a favorite frequency please let me know. XGR/2 will remain on 506.5 kHz. If it looks like a QSO might be possible send me an e mail and we can break away from the schedule. I don't check e mails once a QSO has begun. There might be some advantage to shorter time segments (10 or 15 minutes perhaps) but this is just a starting point. Comments would be appreciated. I'll remain on this schedule until 0200Z...later if anyone is still awake, interested and if propagation is favorable. Any and all reception reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b0847501efc10f; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b0847501efc10f; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy6tt-0004bk-JE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy6ts-0004bb-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:28 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy6tB-0002rn-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:28 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1d41Y0070QuhwU0503P00; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:30:39 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K2Wa1Y00M2Uxt080300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:30:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=EUHz1yAux0kA8O7DDEoA:9 a=z4IPNNGr_KoO4WAlB9OpMYfNKLEA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ltg6t-HkzXS-HjMPEJ0A:9 a=-CnqPh6wnvKkWJ3ZQ50A:7 a=9YFtYfMwO8C4fNESjAB4uHdGzOcA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Willem and Jean-Pierre for the report and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: LF: 137.780 Capture wd2xgj =20 In jo22mb 73s wim pa3ego ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Willem and Jean-Pierre for the re= port and=20 captures!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-1da472f87752e3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:13:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC54-1da472f87752e3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:13:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9G0-00005b-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9Fz-00005S-J1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:15 +0000 Received: from mx2.thehistorychannel.com.au ([203.18.237.62] helo=MX2.foxtel.com.au) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip9Fw-0002T6-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:15 +0000 Received: from SYDEXH01.ent.foxtel.com.au (sydexh01.ent.foxtel.com.au) by MX2.foxtel.com.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:20 +1100 Received: from SYDEXB04.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.101) by SYDEXH01.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.102) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.700.0; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:49 +1100 Received: from SYDEXM02.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.107) by SYDEXB04.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.700.0; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:48 +1100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:47 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF/MF EER transverter Thread-Index: Acgft27HdtJY+yQGTcKUP87NuZluRAAORjHA References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "Nick Mclean (SYD)" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: LF/MF EER transverter X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Me too, 73,s=20 Nic McLean VK2KXN / VK5ZAT Tel: 02 99410619 Fax: 02 98139009=20 Mobile: 0417 822 728 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 1:16 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you are not the intende= d recipient, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the i= nformation in any way, and notify the sender immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and m= ay not be the views of FOXTEL, unless specifically stated. No warranty is ma= de that the e-mail or attachment (s) are free from computer viruses or other= defects. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-acc47361d1327b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc47361d1327b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxVw-0005wV-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxVv-0005wM-Ow for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:11 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxVr-0001NV-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1601EF88CC for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id dKsozNjL8Dwd for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi95.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.100]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 923FC1EF8976 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002301c823dd$41f3cb20$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:04:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gary ...an excellent use of limited backyard space. It should encourage many others to roll up their sleeves and get on the air. Your coils are true works of art. Well done! 73 Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b1147402c1614b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:12:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b1147402c1614b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:12:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itizh-0001m9-Ac for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itizg-0001m0-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:20 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itizd-0000Gd-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:20 +0000 X-Trace: 627587433-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAO65P0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-0, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow shift over greater distances. I will appreciate any reports. The software I am using is MMTTY. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9134738527c3d; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:18:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134738527c3d; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:17:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrZ9L-00059Z-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrZ9K-00059Q-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:22 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrZ9H-0004QK-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:22 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:13 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:13 +0100 Message-ID: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:15:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 13:16:13.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[32F4B380:01C8252E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wd2xsh17 1211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C82536.87C649C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0" ------=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture wd2xsh/17 time 3:00z antenne dx-10 rec:rohde &schwarz henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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antenne dx-10
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(Postfix) with ESMTP id B240B1EF8BC6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id owqYhy+Mao20 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi80.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.85]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 0082F1EF8B73 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000501c82495$79599460$5511f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> <4737386D.8010901@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.407 Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks a million Steve! You have been a great help. Hopefully I can return the favor someday. 73 / Steve Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB33-f0472c9b531b; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:01:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB510-f0472c9b531b; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:01:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLQZ-00046t-Th for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLQZ-00046k-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoLQW-0004L7-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 464291C00081 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.9]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 15B561C00082 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103160022890.15B561C00082@mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:00:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii ... G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > Hi All, > > By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz > shift. > > Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. > > Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. > > Reports welcome. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.147]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1d1472b645f1d5; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:54:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC45-1d1472b645f1d5; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:54:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0iY-0006ER-Hn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0iY-0006EI-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:02 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0iT-0006Xa-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 86919 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 17:46:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=2p7KfVPCvxc9vZGMIpuWSK/ffhc8rMBl1k1VSD0ySp+zMVHqo57i8UHYBRX28aAsyGb8/09B4Q1nzdUexUbD4VU7ZwMf7fgEtIlmPWp5Fu2PwrKoy6kRjKZH9CvyIQ1lhnm3r+Il6EVYmIoVFv3WCu/1nj5Q0BqJZTQXY/7Coew= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.155.2 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 17:46:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MT_LB6EVM1kxCIp4NIazwM6qC_ZbvSHRtsSnJgNzQgdvd6T6UInm4RjXGZrX6SFauEO2dkIIog-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:47:18 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.469 Subject: RE: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Sri, make that GI3PDN.... 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 02 November 2007 17:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] GI4PDN is now in 5 wpm CW beacon mode on 501.555 kHz at the moment. Peaking 549 is QSB 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: 02 November 2007 17:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB14-6d14731796f9c; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:38:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB63-6d14731796f9c; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgQB-00031o-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgQA-00031f-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:59 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgQ6-0004ER-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:58 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:48 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01c82119$6a2d45b0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:37:48.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A4217F0:01C82119] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.233,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 07xns.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C82121.CBDACA50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xns?=20 henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.197 Subject: LF: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi graham, LF, I just posted reply when your mail came thro' Thanks. I presume that is a good sign that the RA1778 is quieter meaning Rx noise level ?? better SNR. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need > select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is > dead center on 503.6 > > G .... > > Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , > looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: "rsgb" > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > > >> Hello LF, >> I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal >> PSK31 >> >> What mode is it? >> >> -- >> John GM4SLV >> IP90gg >> Clousta, Shetland >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: >> 11/16/2007 22:58 >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a524741482c17b; 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Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:23:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4741480D.3020601@online.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:23:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren, Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME051-9c04743112320b; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:54:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c04743112320b; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWLp-0001xg-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWLo-0001xX-NF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:28 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuWLl-0000lE-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:28 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d37.1af5110f (39330) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195577562" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195577562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks good John! What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK -------------------------------1195577562 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks good John!
 
What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the solderi= ng=20 bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is t= his=20 a continuing work in progress?
 
 
 
 
73 de Pat=20 G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK
<= /HTML> -------------------------------1195577562-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9e047364f4a1b0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:39:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME104-9e047364f4a1b0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir0qp-0006d8-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir0qo-0006cz-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:58 +0000 Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca ([24.222.0.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir0ql-0000rm-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:58 +0000 Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.15]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JRB004GFGGKNF50@mta02.eastlink.ca> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:38:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-138-38-70.eastlink.ca (HELO MAIN) ([24.138.38.70]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:38:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:42 +0000 From: Vernon Matheson In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALbdNUcYiiZG/2dsb2JhbACCcw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,400,1188788400"; d="scan'208,217";a="187828235" X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: VE1VDM <> GI4DPE Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi all, Just had a crossband contact with GI4DPE and exchanged signal reports. My TX was 3.501.000 and antenna was a full Windom @ 45 feet My RX was 501.316 and my antenna was a 2000' unterminated wire facing E/W Sent - 559 Received - 539 Best regards, Vernon --Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi all,
 
Just had a crossband contact with GI4DPE and exchanged signal reports.
 
My TX was 3.501.000 and antenna was a full Windom @ 45 feet
 
My RX was 501.316 and my antenna was a 2000' unterminated wire facing E/W
 
Sent - 559
 
Received - 539
 
Best regards,
 
Vernon
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-1904740afe127; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:34:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB310-1904740afe127; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:34:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itrlz-0004Yo-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itrlz-0004Yf-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itrlw-0007rf-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 X-Trace: 636638661-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJc+QEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 21:33:15 +0000 Message-ID: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-2, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi LF, No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as before. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-c8472e16dd1ab; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:00:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB110-c8472e16dd1ab; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:00:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ioki1-0003Gh-W6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ioki1-0003GY-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokhy-00059F-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5CA6E7000089 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:00:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2BE597000083 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:00:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104190025179.2BE597000083@mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:00:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Mike Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol , have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO > Hi Mike, LF, > > Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. > > See capture. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a6547497294393; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:03:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA045-a6547497294393; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:03:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwH7n-0008Ii-Pt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwH7n-0008IZ-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwH7k-0007Hu-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071125130218.JWVT26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:18 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071125130218.YFKS219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:18 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:01:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4749723E.7387.E98379@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.400 Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aac47379cc61be; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:22:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac47379cc61be; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:22:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrN3N-0003vp-KV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrN3M-0003vg-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:24 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrN3K-0007TN-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:24 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d64.1543614e (39331) for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500 Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50,WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_rel_boundary" --part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="d64.1543614e_alt_bound" --d64.1543614e_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/11/2007 23:51:34 GMT Standard Time, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de writes: Dear all, last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight it worked. Well done Ha-Jo. >From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have seen on the band. The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the second night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 transmission is just visible for the first time. _Shetland grabber_ (http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg) 73 David --d64.1543614e_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 11/11/2007 23:51:34 GMT Standard Time,=20 hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de writes:
Dea= r=20 all,

last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight=20 it
worked.
 
Well done Ha-Jo.
 
From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have se= en=20 on the band.
 
The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the second= =20 night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 transmission is j= ust=20 visible for the first time.
 
 
 
73
 
David
 
 
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u5mr4938971pym.1194195448845; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:57:28 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In my 700 Watt direct-from mains transmitter http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/137tx.pdf efficiency came out somewhere between 80 to 90%. As Jim says, its difficult to measure accurately At one point, due to measurement errors, the calculated efficiency ended up at 105%. Andy G4JNT On 04/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > > > Hi all > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. > Has > > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is > hard > > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or > E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it > is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference > between DC input and RF output powers. > > In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which > have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used > air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule > here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is > probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q > tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate > and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, > it might be another story... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-cd473795731f6; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB25-cd473795731f6; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrMZv-0003ni-Fa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrMZv-0003nZ-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:59 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.83] helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrMZr-0007I5-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:58 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IrMZq-0004I3-02; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:54 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (ZB5QMuZGghkastSXAyCCEQMDdNxyglo8-M8bKptN97nR0l7fiatBvcIevjSz3kOQX7@[217.95.127.206]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IrMZj-1jzotU0; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2007 23:50 GMT Message-ID: <1IrMZj-1jzotU0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: ZB5QMuZGghkastSXAyCCEQMDdNxyglo8-M8bKptN97nR0l7fiatBvcIevjSz3kOQX7 X-TOI-MSGID: cc8bd95d-e5ca-4860-aad2-7c8fcec65710 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight it worked. GI4DPE appeared again on 501,4 kHz tonight, at 21.09 UTC I could give him 579, and my 30 watts on 3533 kHz were 539 in northern Ireland. Later I heard G3KEV on 502,6 kHz in QSO with DJ5AZ in Kiel, and around 21.41 UTC, I could give him 569 and received 599. Mal also listened on 3533 kcs. After this qso Mal was called several times by G3BFP on 3533; he was 599 here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, but the 80 m skip in G did not work; Mal could just give QSA1. Still later I heard GI4DPE on 501,4 kHz in qso with G3LDO. Peter's transmission could just be noticed, but was too weak for a copy. Let us see what will happen the following weeks . . . 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b0a472f0be928d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a472f0be928d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip11q-0006k0-7C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip11p-0006jr-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:05 +0000 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip11n-0005M3-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:05 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so3117996pyi for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:26:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eFtu9EZYjOObtFaCtHYaI9ImGQ5o6aMy2E37FUMRmsw=; b=gQzl5jUpRO24MHH98tEwi+x1aNvRYSCj1eN8RJdOBVOO7E0SwqIK71/nkxB7AgngTddlJ0GC/WT6F9XCGkBud/AGaNQsrLs8UDWl5TJqcSfQQWt46LutWm1lqHvvKnKyH6KPOdhTTIjrxu7HJDyJPESLJuQdDYObxO1XM98g/qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CXBTJ5STOAdBVWTBYdsuux44SszzcCMluXBrPF9oEgkvPh9ZpubT9t7iA+F+n68B5d331sxv/Ea+vZZn7lJRVKPZ/BK0Joda/a7ooup5yHF2AAPYqy0iQAR6ckXSS9/o809LjwJL2sINqUW+jLatfaFB4f1EgCKfgmMfssc8oH8= Received: by 10.35.68.3 with SMTP id v3mr6066631pyk.1194265561849; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:26:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:26:01 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Its not difficult to measure RF voltage at this frequency. A scope calibration at DC will extrapolate accurately. Then you can measure I using a current transformer / resistor. Getting within a few percent shouldn't tax any abilities provided you can calibrate a scope at DC. The mistake I made the time I "saw" 105% efficiency was, I seem to recall, due to forgetting the 4/pi factor when filtering the fundamental component out of a square wave - all old history now. Efficiency in class D/E amplifiers falls when the match is not purely resistive, and the devices are forced to switch at other than the zero crossing point of the current waveform. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt On 05/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work out. How > are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) then > using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R be the norm > 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the Eff % > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b6c474f2da692; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c474f2da692; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqqA-0002si-FE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqq9-0002sZ-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:33 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqq6-0001wt-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:33 +0000 X-Trace: 641773183-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAEe8TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:20:47 +0000 Message-ID: <00ca01c832cd$b5ab0e30$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:20:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + David, Thanks for reply. Yes I am seeing you back in your usual slot now. Cheers, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF > > Sorry Gary. > > John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to try > and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham. > > Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps. Back on 503.7 now > > David > > > In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time, > g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: > > Hi All, > > Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? > > I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b9d47440207153; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d47440207153; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-00048n-2N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOT-00048e-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumON-0004CN-W3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003E57DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:05 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,bc7359c590a3919f,3ff5c17a4531c42b,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2828:2916:3027:3352:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3873:4250:4648:5007:6117:6119:6120:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003101c82c25$6db43d80$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:34:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Marco. Tnx for the call on 3533 khz and the successful QSO. Sorry you did not work GI4DPE earlier. I got into the shack around 10 pm so missed the earlier activity. I always listen on 3533/7033 khz and my own freq, usually 502.5 khz. I am active daily so if you hear me pse call for a qso. There are quite a number of other UK stns active, not sure if they all work qsx but listen out for possibe xband qso's. Tnx agn de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: LF: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Hello, very happy here about my 1st X-Band QSO 3533/502 KHz this evening with Mal, G3KEV. At 9pm UTC i had a sked with Finbar,GI4DPE, but unfortunately at this time his signal was to weak. One hour later at 10:10pm i heard G3KEV very good on 502KHz and the QSO was quickly done, many many thanks. IO94sh-JN49ax, QRB 753Km My Rig: FT-857D, on 80m 85W on a FD-4, on 500KHz PA0RDT-Miniwhip antenna. Vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8cd473381853a1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:38:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd473381853a1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:37:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqF2D-0003rr-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqF2D-0003ri-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqF28-0006Xr-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE463EA0F2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:35:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B80F3EA0BA for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:35:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47338104.9010105@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:35:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! 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632328264-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAI9GTUdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 18:48:16 +0000 Message-ID: <011101c831ef$3ccbe7c0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071127225408.08c018a6@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:48:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071127-0, 27/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, LF, Just to let you know the odd ball transmission was indeed me as Mike G3GMS identified. I was testing my transmitter switching, the sequence was 12wpm CW ID followed by the dots, actually 1 second dashes, perhaps I should have included my call sign using QRS as well for the more distant listeners/watchers. Thanks for the reports. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:54 PM Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... > Hello LF, > > I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they > dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's > been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've > listenened by ear. > > Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9be4731ecc4229; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:50:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME062-9be4731ecc4229; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:50:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipo6C-0005lf-E6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipo6B-0005lW-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:51 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipo67-0006OJ-S8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:51 +0000 Received: from [62.33.168.14] (port=53271 helo=mail.ru) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ipo61-0009tC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:49:41 +0300 Message-ID: <4731ECA5.6060304@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:41 +0000 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.061 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lf Possible I copy short trace from XKO at 5:26 (my SR 5:05) http://ra3yo.narod.ru/br00515.jpg Dmitry http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b6e47370bd86b; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:04:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e47370bd86b; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:04:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDPw-0001fp-VY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDPv-0001fW-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:03 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDPq-0003Ab-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:03 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.197.126]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111140345m1300bpumme>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:51 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter16.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:45 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: jpm.f1afj@online.fr (Jean-Pierre Merre), vvkooten@wanadoo.nl (Victor van Kooten), "henny van elst" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:45 +0000 Message-Id: <111120071403.20085.47370BC0000F3FFA00004E7522058864420B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj11-11.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor, Thank you for the reports and captures of XGJ! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > nice capture xgj > time 21:00-02:45z > henny cpm > 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b134731a3b61ed; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:38:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC037-b134731a3b61ed; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:38:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjEF-0004NX-VA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjEF-0004NO-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout1458.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.157.158] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpjEC-00062m-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.28) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E002A6CB1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82132$9ea00df0$1cd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <1194380344.4730cc387e558@imp.netikka.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:37:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Paul We have a good sea path between us.OH1TN was always vy strong with me on 137 khz cw. Pse work xband 3533/7033 khz for a real time report. Tnx info de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: LF: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz LF Condx on 500kHz is just getting better every day. Here is a recording of G3KEV made just a while ago, note how the AGC is trigged almost blanking the bandnoise. The audioclip is far too short (due to filesize restrictions) to show how steady and QSB-free the conditions were at the time. 579, 599 ...? The S-meter is hitting S3 with S0.5 bandnoise. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b2c474406c0181; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:21:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c474406c0181; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:21:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumiE-0004W4-Cm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumiE-0004Vv-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:42 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumiB-0004P9-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:41 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C251DA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:17:23 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E > and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for > correct operation. I didn't miss it Mal... Nowhere have I seen your reported: DC Input Volts/Current RF Output Power Efficiency Others have replied to you with their own measured efficiency vs power so perhaps you can furnish us with the same. After all you've certainly made some exhaustive optimisations of the output tuning components to achieve the perfect class E drain waveforms. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d04736195b139; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:49:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB62-6d04736195b139; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:49:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxGP-0005pt-T5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxGP-0005pk-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxGM-0004ja-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205311EF8C60 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id DX4Q-85RpVCt for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi95.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.100]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EA721EF8C1F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:48:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.430 Subject: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is on-the-air. Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB41-181472ee76f343; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:50:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB25-181472ee76f343; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:50:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoyaT-0004I7-6a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoyaS-0004Hy-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoyaQ-0001kM-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAD5DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:22 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105094722.7d6531be@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:36:59 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why > bother with a mode that noone else bothers about. > G3KEV As a CW only op I think I can answer Mal's point without being accused of partiality. The use of CW is always going to be seen as the primary mode on MF, due to the bandwidth limitiations and the ease of production and detection. However the great increase in available digital modes recently means there's great scope for the experimenter to investigate ways of improving the reliability and throughput of messages in narrow bandwidths and low S/N ratios. One of the reasons I see that we've got access to 500 is to see what can be done with modern DSP signal processing in view of the peculiarities of MF fading/propagation. The powers that be might see MF (and an amateur allocation here) as useful for emergency communication. The use of digital modes and DSP will be important for this and if we can show we're carrying out research into this then we won't look like anachronistic dinosaurs. On my part I'm only interested in using CW for QSOs - and am still amassing lots of interesting data from this mode - but am happy to support those who are trying different routes. This isn't a normal amateur allocation where we should be intertested solely in "working the DX". The cross-band QSOs etc. should be seen as "experimantal data". The normal amateur "DXCC chasing" mentality has no place here. See you on the key? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b32473b61ff30f; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC076-b32473b61ff30f; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPKL-0004tS-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPKL-0004tJ-Az for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from webmail10.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPKH-0006gE-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail10) by mail.yandex.ru id S4059803AbXKNU6b convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:31 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [83.237.224.7] ([83.237.224.7]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:29 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254396733 References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:30 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi agn John & ALL! May be. I find only one info about 504 kHz WC NDB beacon into: http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/index.php 504 WC UNID XUU UNID FIN 1 =20= 2007-11-08 the other WC ndb ib 332 kHz is near Vancoover and the other one in South Afr= ica is not on 505 kHz too. 14.11.07, 21:50, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 > ". Roman" wrote: > > Hello John! > > May be it was a G3WCB? > >=20 > > Find by a google: > > 21/22 Sep > > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm > >=20 > Hi Roman & LF > Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time > repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both > frequencies in perect sync! > It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier > on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in > anywhere I can find. > It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up > again. > Cheers, > John > --=20 > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =D0=AF=D0=BD=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81.=D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=87=D1=82=D0=B0 - =D0= =9F=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8C=D1=82=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D1= =82=D1=83 =D1=81 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0= =BE =D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B0: http://mai= l.ya.ru =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-e0472cb0183ad; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB44-e0472cb0183ad; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:30:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMob-0005PO-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMob-0005PF-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMoX-0003tS-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Nov 2007 17:29:35 -0000 Received: from p548557B6.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.87.182] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 18:29:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19etgEeKtteOhIR+B1+jYrZXuqnfAPHp+BwCz1nmf lSPz9jyReSLzKZ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:29:34 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655558932.20071103182934@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.019 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 2/3 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137 kHz: Copied UA4WPF and WD2XGJ. WD2XGJ was visible since about 20:00 UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500 Khz: Good copy of WD2XSH/17 in CW mode. Only partial copy of the CW signal from WE2XGR/2. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-fc473368b72d5; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:51:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC12-fc473368b72d5; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDNC-0003AQ-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDNB-0003AH-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:05 +0000 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.190] helo=rn-out-0102.google.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDN5-00055L-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:03 +0000 Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id e21so204065rng for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:48:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=azxdugddTgEwf1QusJswJ42F/78fq/YCrLFzFLm41aI=; b=AXiV4TuNzUBokbgBZxR1vbyx8YceRdv/1SkkFHZebgYagOx1353N9NvNUC5/6EwWabcOviQ8PtTKckJ7qp4sTNi1QQVudy3wBtp3cf0j/yYGoOl27eu9hKNLMBBVSAQao7OjGfBZ6ipR2SEBAwJnrF3/l/4KI5IYB9knxaqM46s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ORHJ6+Ygk/tPg62QoCCKiwA5p5uUpgwplMwTnUKFy3Xpw0+Pc4oR1cnZhGI5nnC4PwBC0PBNaKOmfTEsCl4A1bjicdRFIuZ6XtMKln23QIIDk9/EEwT4EReJNmg+aeHICmAfjce13SBF5LcdlEJUfo1r1/9seV6eVlbo1JFfx80= Received: by 10.150.158.8 with SMTP id g8mr199427ybe.1194551335213; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:48:55 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the trace. Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from a Russian transmitter. Andy G4JNT On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > (the latter with radio direction finding). > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > the E-field spectrogram. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b354731a789ea; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:54:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC081-b354731a789ea; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:54:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjUR-0004XB-PD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjUQ-0004X2-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 Received: from smtpauth01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpjUL-0003ds-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 10285 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 11:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpauth01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.181) with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2007 11:53:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <47317984.9090401@online.fr> X-Karma: -996: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for about 30 minutes last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the last week. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1d8472e1bf07; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:22:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC52-1d8472e1bf07; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iol37-0003d9-BZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iol36-0003d0-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iol33-0000V0-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iol2h-00058o-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:55 +0100 Received: from f054164248.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.164.248]:1118 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1Iol2h-0007Yq-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, I use an IC706 (first model) for my 136 kHz transverter, and it works like a charm (with the CW filter of course). The nice thing about this radio is, all oscillators are derived from a 30 MHz master oscillator, which can easily be synchronized to the 10 MHz OCXO. In my tranverter, this OCXO drives the transverter (10.136 MHz <-> 0.136 MHz), so everything is driven from the same reference. I didn't check if the IC706 can be modified to generate a signal at 10.503 MHz (+/-). If so, it could be used as a duoband transverter for MF+LF, using the same mixers, only different bandpass filters in the frontend. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . Gary - G4WGT schrieb: > Hi All at LF, > > There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF > operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its > frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 > this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? > > I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on > to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven > from a HF transciever like the IC706. > > Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much > appreciated. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b69473b6b832f7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:41:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b69473b6b832f7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPyq-00057F-6D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPyp-000576-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPyk-0006C8-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6E03EA114 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D0B3EA0F4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B6B67.1060809@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:55 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Grabber 137 kHz WD2XGJ ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren (K2ORS) , Is your signal with started to be visble with 20:05 UTC, PLEASE which the hour of your sunset? It seems to me that it will not be there before an=20 hour! (it is 21:35 UTC) it is really beyond what I saw up to now! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Hello friends of the L F, > > The grabber will be ON , this evening to see at which time the=20 > signals of Warren will be visible . > > You can see it by this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with > this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b6c472f9c172a3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:41:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c472f9c172a3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:41:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAa4-0001PY-G7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAa1-0001PP-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:01 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAZv-0004or-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:01 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:50 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <003201c81ffc$7281fbc0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 22:37:49.0683 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EA21430:01C81FFC] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.245,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511xgj.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C82004.D42F5950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950" ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj 22:30z henny pa3cpm jo22mb antenne slooper 7meter rec:rohde&schwarz ek9891 73s ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-ac5473f5df0253; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:32:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac5473f5df0253; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:32:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVGq-0005WR-Fx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVGp-0005WI-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:07 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVGm-0000BG-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:07 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7B5F01C00086 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:31:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.156]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 525BC1C00082 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:31:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071117213138337.525BC1C00082@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John, Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is dead center on 503.6 G .... Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: "rsgb" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > Hello LF, > I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal > PSK31 > > What mode is it? > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: > 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-e24735bb2a141; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:07:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB46-e24735bb2a141; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:07:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqqzE-0004Om-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:07:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqqzD-0004Od-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqqzA-000595-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE7D61C00087 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:06:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.20]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 86FC31C00084 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:06:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071110140650553.86FC31C00084@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000701c823a2$f946cce0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> <20071110122654.0972860a@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : John , I wonder if the daytime signals are 'normal' or just as the sun activty is quite low , the attenuation is 'low' , I have seen signals from down south during the day as well .... See you still loosing the top section of the ae , I lost one of the strops that night as well , but that was a smaller rope , acting as a 'fuse' Have you considered using small stainless steel 'wire' , small boat rigging sort of , like, or bigger :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Wire-Rope-316-Marine-Grade-3-mm-No-Res_W0QQitemZ220169930002QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > >> peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 >> minutes. band noise level low at present. >> > > Hello LF, Ray, Chris, > > Just had a listen and GI3PDN is RST539. Band noise extremely low so > fully Q5 despite being very weak, as long as I use the external tuneable > pre-amp. Also hearing GW4HXO calling CQ on 502.02 very weak but just > readable 429. Mal of course S8-9 on 502.5 as ever... > > Waiting for a chance to drop the TX antenna to replace the broken > capacity wire which was the only damage sustained in Thursdays force > 10-11 winds (gusts to 93mph were recorded locally...). Probably won't > be until tomorrow until I get a chance. Unitl then I'm RX only (again!) > > Cheers, > > John > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: > 11/9/2007 19:29 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-9154738e9391f8; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:01:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-9154738e9391f8; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjBw-0006Vt-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjBv-0006Vk-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:43 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjBp-0002Zz-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:42 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cdb.1de49388 (34980) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (ac9e6815.ipt.aol.com [172.158.104.21]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA085-88a44738e8dd260; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> In-Reply-To: <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:59:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov - DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C82590.67643D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40" ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Alan, I believe Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of the band= actually do come from DCF39. Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transradio solid state transmit= ter, which unfortunately appears to have much less efficient modulation wave= form shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and has come on for a few= hours from time to time. This is also the reason for the different reported= idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before, 138830.6 Hz now). There is a grabber shot on http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands= _070404.png which shows the difference of the spectral characteristics. Espe= cially in quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to abou= t 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been in=20= contact with a person at the German regulatory body "Bundesnetzagentur", who= was involved in the on-site acceptance testing. He was quite understanding=20= and helpful, but basically said that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed= to be within the prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enfor= ce a reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions. Due to the modulation characteristics there are however a few spectral gaps=20= in the sidebands which could be useful to us. The appended plot shows a spec= trogram between 137.5 and 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies above 135.5 kHz zero=20= beat). The vertical streaks show visible minima at 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 2273 Hz), 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and 137.560 to 137.575 kHz. One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA (curren= tly ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps. Before we de= cide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know how much others i= n the LF group are affected. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM PS: A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's test sig= nal? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy > (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and shifts > "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. > Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter since then= , > but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > >> I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off >> the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make >> CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which >> makes QRSS harder. >> >> Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to >> 30s slow) : >> >> 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) >> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' >> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' >> >> Very noisy overnight. >> >> Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. >> Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know >> if this frequency causes anyone a problem. >> >> de Mike, G3XDV >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>=20 ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Alan,
I believe=20 Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of the band actually=20= do=20 come from DCF39.

Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transra= dio=20 solid state transmitter, which unfortunately appears to have much less effic= ient=20 modulation waveform shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and has co= me=20 on for a few hours from time to time. This is also the reason for the differ= ent=20 reported idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before, 138830.6 Hz now).

The= re=20 is a grabber shot on http://members.ao= l.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands_070404.png which shows the difference of the spectral characteristics.=20 Especially in quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to=20 about 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been= in=20 contact with a person at the German regulatory body "Bundesnetzagentur", who= was=20 involved in the on-site acceptance testing. He was quite understanding and=20 helpful, but basically said that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed to=20= be=20 within the prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enforce a=20 reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions.

Due to the modulati= on=20 characteristics there are however a few spectral gaps in the sidebands which= =20 could be useful to us. The appended plot shows a spectrogram between 137.5 a= nd=20 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies above 135.5 kHz zero beat). The vertical streak= s=20 show visible minima at
 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 227= 3=20 Hz),
 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and
 137.560 to 137.575=20 kHz.
One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA= =20 (currently ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps. Befor= e we=20 decide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know how much others= in=20 the LF group are affected.

73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
PS:=20 A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's test=20 signal?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Melia"=20 <alan.melia@btinternet.com&g= t;
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: LF: Re:=20 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov


> Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actu= ally=20 probably from Lakihegy
> (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is ver= y=20 strong at night and shifts
> "into" the band a couple of hundred=20 Hz.
> Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter=20 since then,
> but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at=20 Anthorn.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message=20 -----
> From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com<= /FONT>>
>=20 To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM
> Su= bject: LF:=20 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov
>
>> I have at last got my station fully=20 running again. Having been off
>> the air for a few months I notice= =20 much less Loran QRM which will make
>> CW contacts possible again.=20= But=20 more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which
>> makes QRSS=20 harder.
>>
>> Monitored last night and received the follow= ing=20 (using Argo set to
>> 30s slow) :
>>
>> 1800 - 18= 50=20 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?)
>> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF=20 137.777.2kHz, 'O'
>> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call= ,=20 'O'
>>
>> Very noisy overnight.
>>
>> Wi= ll=20 test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight.
>>=20= Hope=20 to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know
>> i= f=20 this frequency causes anyone a problem.
>>
>> de Mike,=20 G3XDV
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
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<20071103181214.VZU29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:12:14 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472CB9F3.129.25DCF2E@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.436 Subject: LF: Parallel port problem Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have just changed the computer I use for running ON7YD's QRS program to key my transmitter. Both old and new computers run WIN98. The old one worked fine with QRS, but the new one behaves strangely. I use pin 3 on the printer port and it measures +5V on key down and 0V on key up (as expected) but after a few seconds of key up it returns to +5V again. The idle state is +5V and it always returns to this state after a few seconds. Any ideas? Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-910472f60d9286; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:28:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-910472f60d9286; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:28:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6gO-00056B-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6gN-000562-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:19 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6gK-0001Zx-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:19 +0000 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8898C270BCD for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817EC270BCD for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC1F495BBF for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from proxy.wartsila.com (proxy.wartsila.com [194.251.142.28]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1194287267.472f60a3580a9@imp.netikka.net> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 194.251.142.28 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) One copy for me please. Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting James Moritz : > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to se= e > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9da4744ea72364; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:33:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da4744ea72364; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:33:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv1ru-0007Zo-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv1rt-0007Zf-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:41 +0000 Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv1rp-0002AZ-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:41 +0000 Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fc5W1Y0090mlR8U0A07T00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:35 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FeYV1Y0052Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=RPDut8cvebACSUp7ofQA:9 a=2k1qBO4J4BzsxeDTfU2RjOTGOdcA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:32:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz Tonight WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello the list, WD2XGJ on only from 00:10 to 02:30 UTC tonight, bad weather and poor band conditions. I will save the electricity! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8a6473ebdcae5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:09:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA048-8a6473ebdcae5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:09:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItKbE-0004AV-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItKbE-0004AM-5Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItKbA-0000mw-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42270DA539 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:17 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, While I was making some recordings of various signals on MF and HF to demonstrate the "sound" of my Inrad 250Hz filter for another list member's benefit I decided to see what real effect the various additional external hardware I have built made to the ability to pull signals from the noise. I've noticed many times recently that I can often hear people on 500, especially during the day, and yet be unable to make myself heard. I always put this down to my low noise level. While this will have some bearing I also wonder if some of my simple extra hardware is responsible. I have an op-amp based tuneable RF pre-amp and a simple op-amp 10Hz audio filter. Nothing "rocket science". My previous understanding of noise floor and necessary RX sensitivity was that, especially on the lower bands, performance was limited by the external band noise and really sensitive RX front ends were unnecessary - all you do is amplify the noise.... My IC-718 has a measured MDS of -119dBm (IPO) and -125dBm (pre-amp on) on 500kHz and similar figures on 300kHz in an SSB filter b/w. The old maxim of "if you can hear the noise increase when you connect the antenna then you've got enough sensitivity" would indicte that this is more than adequate. However.... Have a listen to the recording here :-- http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/OZN_372_RX_test.mp3 In this test I tuned to 372.420kHZ, the upper sideband ident of the OZN-372 NDB in Greenland. At 09:30z it's not too strong here. In fact it was totally inaudible. The noise level was too high to make it worthwhile adding more gain in front of the RX....or so I thought. The recording starts with the RX in CW mode, 2.3kHz IF filter and no internal or external pre-amp. Pretty noisy and no sign of either OZN or the more local ODR. I switch in my 10Hz AF filter. The wideband crud disappears, but still no OZN. Next comes the LF353 op-amp tuneable pre-amp. This shouldn't help, as all I'll do is amplify the noise, right...? Bingo! Both OZN and, a few Hz lower, ODR. I have a local NDB (TL-376) and the keying harmonics (multiples of 400Hz) can be just be heard (wearing 'phones) - a final switch if the IC-718 internal 250Hz inrad filter cleans it up. My queston now is.... Would more people benefit from similar, simple, additions to their 500kHz stations? Many people are still trying to receive on wide IF filters and straightforward amateur rigs (the IC-718 is one such rig). My experience of being able to hear people perfectly Q5 yet be inaudible to them might be in part due to the extra hardware, not purely my superior location? -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-189472f74ec3d5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:54:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB33-189472f74ec3d5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:54:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip81V-0006Wq-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip81V-0006Wh-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip81T-0002yJ-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DFE4E5BA4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8fHMU0ZcYVjd for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056E14E5BA3 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:53:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81fe5$8d9a9870$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] G3KEV_CW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81FED.EF5F0070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice signal! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations =D8 Hi Graham, ah but yes it will!!. The skip you talk about is due to=20 the > ground wave fading below the noise qrm at ranges before the skywave starts > to come in at good strength. This is well known in the Lowfer (160 to=20 > 180kHz > 1 Watt DC) fraternity in the States. the higher power Part 5 stations dont > get this problem. On the commercial station power levels the ground wave > equals the skywave strength at somewhere around 700 km (CCIR reccs), and=20 > if =D8 =D8 That distance is the zone where no use can be made of the signal du= e=20 to severe , constant multi path propagation ? , well out side the 'uk' and= =20 our 100 mW erp ! =D8 > you plug the figures into to the late Reg Edwards GRNDWAV4 program you=20 > will > see how the ground wave fades with decreasing power level. Those of us=20 > that > live in domestic areas have to put up with a higher level of blanketing > noise than John, which make the situation far worse. > > A little bit more power could enable us to achieve better groundwave=20 > ranges > in daytime than are possible on top-band. Then add to that the possibility > of daytime skywave at longer distances and it could well help. There will > always be a rapid fading at shortish distances (100 to300km) but more=20 > power > would give some fade margin so the signals didnt go right out. =D8 =D8 That's a disputable area , the point I was making , was that , fro= m=20 observation , power levels of stations inside the uk look to have little=20 effect on the 'peak to dip' ratio of the qsb , I think the early beacon's=20 proved one thing , that's when 'in range' power is not a problem , If I can=20 'see' my signal at Bham, ~75 miles , just outside what , could be called the= =20 'service area' dropping the tx power as low as can , makes very little=20 change to the pk/dip ratio , Increasing the level will 'enable' a contact= =20 , but the ratio still looks to 'hold' ? =D8 =D8 =D8 > > On the data, a "locked" signal should be somewhere around at least 6dB > better under fading but it has to flywheel its parameters through the=20 > fade, > not suddenly start hunting for them again when the signal disappears. Much > data software is not written for these LF type conditions, Amtor ARQ would > be good with some error correction and longer bursts than 3 chars.... > possibly adaptive to match the fading conditions. The origin SITOR was > designed for HF conditions which have different problems. Selective fading > is not really an issue at LF. =D8 =D8 I ran some propagation 'observations' using 3 carrier spaced 100 Hz= =20 apart , that showed quite a marked 'fade pattern' with the highest frequency= =20 displaying a longer pk/dip ratio than the lower frequency , I would say=20 20/30 p/c longer , and during a 50 Hz qsy , hf , the top trace was totally=20 lost at Shetland, leaving just the lower 2 showing , totally un-expected ! =D8 =D8 NB : It was the out come of theses that prompted , me to suggest=20 that 85 Hz shift be used on rtty , 200/170 being vulnerable to carrier=20 loss and in tests with Gary , 25 Hz did not perform well in the high noise=20 level , =D8 =D8 I was involved (at work) in a kite fly about > a Marine Radio data protocol that would have used an (A)X25 type of > protocol with narrow bandwidth and a packet handshake that would have been > very effective. =D8 =D8 Yes , amtor would provide one of the reliable data mode , HF 110= =20 baud packet may also work , but these modes require a 'decodable' signal ,=20 at range signal levels rarely reach this level , oddly packet may provide=20 the answer, but the bandwith use is a little high , The Olivia system gave=20 'good' results when I ran a test a while ago , the wider version may prove=20 quite robust but would take 'too much' band space . =D8 =D8 =D8 =D8 The ultimate is GPS locked and that is very effective. If > you want to see the the effectiveness of a locked system look at WOLF.=20 > This > is not designed for "conditions adaptive" operation though, but I have > copies signals way below the level QRSS can be seen on 136kHz. Even the=20 > "QSO > mode" Wolf B put in does not make it friendy for qso work. A good system > should go quickly when conditions are good and slow down, integrating the > repeats, in bad spells, until the packet checksums agree. > =D8 =D8 These modes look interesting, but require 'linear' system's ,=20 unfortunately a lot of work has been undertaken with non-linear system's=20 hopefully Jim's EER system may roll out as a retro-fit =D8 =D8 A digital band . you can hear them or you cannot hihi Graham .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-e147298e38bf; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:28:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e147298e38bf; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:28:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InVP4-0007eJ-Ki for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InVP4-0007eA-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InVP1-0000DU-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:49 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96C5DA4D6 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! > Dave, LF, The other option is more power of course! If your antenna is inefficient due to low radiation resistance you need more current and if it's poor because of high environmental losses you need more driving power to get the current. I tried a simple vertical 2 weeks ago in an attempt to eliminate the top loading wires for the winter (got tired of them breaking free in the gales). The antenna was 11m with no top-capacity loading and using a professional FSM I found that with 80W TX power and 0.9A RF current at the feed-point I got an ERP of only 85mW. I relented and installed some top-loading. With 4 x 7m long capacity loading wires running down the upper guys (not a long horizontal stretch), and only 30W TX power, I achieved 140mW ERP. The bare vertical was very inefficient due to low Rrad, as there was plenty of current flowing, almost 1A. The top loading however gave 6dB gain in ERP! I also found the overall R dropped considerably with the longer top-load wires (previously I'd used 3.5m long loading wires), needing large change in matching transformer taps to get back to 50 ohms. The overall losses must be lower. Probably due in part to needing much less L to bring it to resonance, and fewer losses in the loading coil. If I couldn't improve the ground losses, which I find I can't either (very wet peat on rock isn't great!) I'd put more power into the antenna, which I do. I find that with a real "QRP" TX of ~5W I'd not be heard by anyone except in the most perfect of conditions. At least you have some locals to work I suppose. My nearest regular stations are Mal and Finbar - both over 600km away, even Mark GM4ISM is 500km+ and he's a "GM"! No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! I heard Chris G3XVL call/work you on Tuesday and strained my ears, and eyes on the waterfall, but could see nothing more than the very faintest hint of a signal between his overs. More power Igor! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8d3474368892bb; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:06:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d3474368892bb; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:06:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IucAf-00030l-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IucAe-00030c-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IucAY-0005bn-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:20 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id lAKN69Mi011028 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:13 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id lAKN65M5002014 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id lAKN65Kn000779 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:04 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:04 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Thread-Index: Acgryezl4BDbzZmRSZykEvBPmOqUnA== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED6306D0:01C82BC9] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, very happy here about my 1st X-Band QSO 3533/502 KHz this evening with Mal, G3KEV. At 9pm UTC i had a sked with Finbar,GI4DPE, but unfortunately at this time his signal was to weak. One hour later at 10:10pm i heard G3KEV very good on 502KHz and the QSO was quickly done, many many thanks. IO94sh-JN49ax, QRB 753Km My Rig: FT-857D, on 80m 85W on a FD-4, on 500KHz PA0RDT-Miniwhip antenna. Vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b78472e0cf0222; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:18:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b78472e0cf0222; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:18:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iok2l-0002a8-CF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iok2k-0002Zz-OZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:54 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iok2h-0004iI-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:54 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:45 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c81f0e$f6535a00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2007 18:17:45.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF56C920:01C81F0E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0411wpf.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C81F17.57FDD160" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of wpf 10:25utc jo22mb henny pa3cpm=20 antenne slooper 7meter 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxPDI-0007hO-VQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:37 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxPDE-0000dI-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:36 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JBtr1Y00A0SCNGk050NR00; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:26 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JFsM1Y0092Uxt080300000; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:26 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w9nWzfgW10PZj8CtiRIA:9 a=_r-oLylG6gD3Dl3jf17GuQEs0PMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=MInBT2ynV54A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=nKFicssZskd9_4r2hwAA:9 a=NOnh-9QtC_sxHmj8lFoA:7 a=tuMBEIzLmCD9S0UtxkgrvXHn6L8A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <8F12E7F54702482CA852576914E4FE1B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000001c831cf$ddc07cb0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000001c831cf$ddc07cb0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:52:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Willem, Henny, Thanks for the captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: LF: 137.780 Wd2xgj capture In jo22mb=20 73s wim pa3ego =20 ------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Willem, Henny,
 
  Thanks for the captures!
73 Warre= n=20 K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
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------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-95b4732eecc2a4; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:11:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b4732eecc2a4; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:11:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq5HN-0000wO-3e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq5HM-0000wF-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:32 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq5HH-0001j8-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id AB961Y0020QuhwU0000500; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:21 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ABAM1Y0011pKLLP0000000; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mTyO3kaYhavuwwfJhnYA:9 a=VbYeFSlKJU_GOfq_zanMeFHxEsQA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <001601c821f7$f3ed19e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <4732DF82.5000801@online.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:10:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.295 Subject: LF: Re: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jean-Pierre I would appreciate the return of your grabber. Real time (or nearly so) feedback from grabbers provide worthwhile information. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:05 AM Subject: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Hello LF'ers , In spring , I stopped my “grabber” 137kHz because I thought that it harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? Thank you for your answer. 73 f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b72473b79e4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:42:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b72473b79e4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:42:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQwJ-0005Mk-OC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQwJ-0005Mb-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsQwG-0004DW-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 40895 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 22:06:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=eVLUtCoLJgPnynHpK9HpDCRuMdYf1Q3avHHAGYEVsohQpx7Nk/U2o7bKzs9Q11JIsCKFt/X7isFfQz1C4phNGhKap0jXsEcnbpXN6GaesRQ/0fffsgt8HRAAwhvg5miQsVnm4+fSTpyvT/2bpYQshrtJbMrIazupvP1IhUd7s0U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.56.98 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 22:06:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8hZM29QVM1lX4_4mSDURfywTxLvsBQ77MS9fbZZBbGOfh2CUtZqNCEx_cNr2LoRyWQ88x2Ra6Q-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.31/1130]); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:04:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c8270a$565f46e0$62387ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001901c826b6$4b110890$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:04:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.123 Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear John, LF Group, I would favour sticking with the "no formal band plan" arrangement that we have at the moment. The reason for the current informal band plan getting out of date is not really to do with chamging amateur operating practice, but with the utilities that operate inside or near the band. At HF, if you do have non-amateur signals taking up residence in a particular band segment, there is still some room elsewhere in the same segment to continue operating. But at HF, band segments are usually at least 10s of kilohertz, while with only 2.1kHz total bandwidth to play with at 136k, the band segments can only be hundreds of Hz wide and a whole segment can be made unusable by even a single utility signal. In these circumstances, we have to be prepared to QSY in order to make best use of what spectrum is available, and this has happened a number of times in the past. Since 136kHz is uniquely narrow, we have little or no influence with the utilities, and have the band on secondary basis, I think this band has to be treated as a special case where flexibility in operating practices is needed. Any set of guidelines that can be produced can be rendered obsolete if one of the utility operators decides to change frequency, so I think an informal arrangement among amateurs that changes to suit prevailing conditions is best. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: LF: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Mike, G3XDV, has mentioned that the current guidelines for the band, shown on the IARU Region 1 bandplan, and adopted by some national society bandplans, e.g. RSGB, are now somewhat out-of-date. It would be timely to review whether to remove the existing guidelines. The current guidelines were put into place at the San Marino Conference in 2002 and then the general view then was that band planning was not the preference, hence the proposals were given the status of guidelines.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-91b472fb6b8243; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:35:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b472fb6b8243; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:35:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpCP5-0003VX-7a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpCP4-0003VO-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:50 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpCP0-0006Wf-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 37737 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2007 00:34:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ervONzGpNijpR3gcqZNBF/+wBl34UvhY9HzA33mxuLS+wuOLkjdgujIX3wgQiSK64aXJaqvFEBTTCK90AgMZubbKsnI0KlqTypvMgebgJKxyy99fFaG7XviL1SETElFK38PJGImZL+HVQ+axixWyGb7dCwiP0jVbVo/L7IuqXvw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.3.85 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2007 00:33:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ia4RzBQVM1k5SWyBxHGMFKekwHqABp9.M4bjy0eBfiZXeHSqj_HoEDeNglEpVgL6IvkKS9p82A-- Message-ID: <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:34:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the choke is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The choke tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt cap are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current, so the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs are really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high efficiencies at similar frequencies. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's , past P = I*V ? Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing 'spurious side bands' ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency = 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A = 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a ÂŁ20,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency = Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 = 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A = 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms = 68.4W Efficiency = 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I = 1.23A in 50 ohms = 75W Out Efficiency = 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms = 67W Efficiency = 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC23-1c8472f9eaa251; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC36-1c8472f9eaa251; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:52:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAnn-0001rY-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:52:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAnm-0001rP-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:52:14 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAng-0003M1-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Henny you have a very nice receiving set-up. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > 22:30z > henny pa3cpm > jo22mb > antenne slooper 7meter > rec:rohde&schwarz ek9891 > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ac2472bb620f2; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac2472bb620f2; 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Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:12:53 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:12:52 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.408 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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There may have been a very weak trace on one of your captures, but most likely it was my imagination. Thank-you for your continued efforts. The beacon remains in operation. 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : > WD2XGJ and WD2XES > > On 189.95 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b6f47341ab53c7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD041-b6f47341ab53c7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPGB-0006Np-H8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPGB-0006Ng-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPG7-0001Iw-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816593EA0EF for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:30:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373AF3EA0CE for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:30:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47341AAA.6050907@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:30:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : XKO , XGJ and XNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_80_90, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night good copy of : WD2XGJ WD2XNS WD2XKO the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8c54738f2613cd; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c54738f2613cd; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjoN-0006jC-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjoM-0006j3-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:26 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjoI-0005T6-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:26 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071113003844m14004kbhte>; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:54 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:43 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "LF Group RSGB" Cc: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:43 +0000 Message-Id: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: G3LDO xband X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ha-Jo, Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > Dear all, > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > contact started at > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > told him I would wait. > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > which he sent to F2JB. > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > became almost unreadible. > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC24-6e84736d0ac271; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:51:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC62-6e84736d0ac271; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:51:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir9Ss-00019r-7l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir9Sq-00019i-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:49 +0000 Received: from smtpout0183.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.183] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir9Sm-0003Ra-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:47 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.234.174) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A002E6A8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82448$508be5d0$aeeafc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.432,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx report pse call on 3533/7033 kcs for xband qso 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough ----- Original Message -----=20 From: F4DTL@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV=20 Hello Mal. Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP Best 73 from F4DTL=20 RX: IC 7400 Ant: mini whip PA0RDT ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx report pse call on 3533/7033 kcs for xband qso
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
----- Original Message -----
F4DTL@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9= :22=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV

Hello Mal.
Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL
RX: IC 7400
Ant:=20 mini whip PA0RDT
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.144]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC11-1b0472cda733ac; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:31:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC12-1b0472cda733ac; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdX-0007UQ-DX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdW-0007UH-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:31 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPdS-0004hs-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 62695 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 20:30:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=d4JTpYgqs9cXVbFeGzAKlQHPg8u72ugIYBY6a4s8Gs1g6Db0zJlZ5Cb1P6t5eWybZzSK6x67IVeFbuZed8ime4GAPQnQvXCmFE+KxZdz4Fh3GkxjsN4WPzy1B83Yet+UTRv1DAwWF2pCv/FZZ6i0xpf0yyvTkaryk3X0v5IrthI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 20:30:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xy86bqAVM1lcy4GmMbalmuJUcQtm_Jnp3QtOsPo9ipVqUg.U Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:28:43 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:28:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group, Nil here since about 1950utc or so ... since I sent my last e-mail in fact! I assume Gary has shut down - the fades seemed to go in cycles of about 5 - 10 minutes, so I should have seen him again by now. There were some faint traces of something on 503.0k earlier, but could have just been noise. BTW Gary, what are you using to repeat the transmissions (assuming it isn't being done manually...)? Seems quite a useful feature. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Jim , > > Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi > > Assume nothing seen on 503 ? > > G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ae047371b48233; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB086-ae047371b48233; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEQu-00022e-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEQu-00022V-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrEQr-0000NK-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 X-Trace: 644526005-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAGSpNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 15:08:38 +0000 Message-ID: <02d401c82474$bd4cc370$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:08:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, Testing at 503.600 KHz, 9 wpm CW ID . 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a4f472fee448f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:32:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f472fee448f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:32:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpG5i-0006MQ-0a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpG5h-0006MH-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:05 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpG5f-0005vd-65 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:05 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d49.157fe81a (39331) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:30:53 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194323453" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194323453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,good signal from WD2XGJ tonight at 23:00 received with only my very little active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT). Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 756 PRO Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194323453 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,good signal from WD2XGJ tonight at 23:00 received=20 with only my very little active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT).
 
 
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip=20 PA0RDT
 -------------------------------1194323453-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC091-b1f472b9a45103; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:44:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC053-b1f472b9a45103; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4JV-0007Vz-Rn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4JV-0007Vq-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4JS-00004r-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 250311C00088 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EC4B01C00087 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102214355980.EC4B01C00087@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:44:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: psk31 on 503 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Ok Brian, Thanks for that , that looks about par for the course hihi , can not get to=20 outside london , but printing well at 500 miles ... Thanks for the report, Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Brian gm4jyb" To: "LF reflector" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: LF: psk31 on 503 > 20:50hrs > Just copied the following on 503kHz:-- > > CQ CQ CQ DE...gEnbd g0nbd g0nbd CQO=A6 CQ -E...g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd CQ CQ= =20 > CQ DE...g0nbd g0nbd ggngd k > > Cheers > Brian gm4jyb > IO88hp Dunnet Head > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database:=20 > 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 18:47 > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8a6474495a01b6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA048-8a6474495a01b6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwDm-0006f1-Iy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwDl-0006es-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:53 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuwDh-0007cc-Q7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 6710 invoked by uid 0); 21 Nov 2007 20:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.147]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 21 Nov 2007 20:31:48 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c82c7d$5d4e3600$25be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:30:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.046,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QSL-cards LX/PA6Z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, For those who worked me last year as LX/PA6Z on 137kHz: We have not forgotten you! Marcel, PA9M, our QSL manager QSP-ed all cards to me personally, problem how= ever is that I still have to make a sticker or something to put on the card,= and to fill that in. That seems rather simple, but I have to limited computer knowledge to this..= ..... (sri) Besides that a QRL change and upcoming house-move won't help much. I will do all I can to answer all received cards, but pleas be patience; mig= ht take some more months. My apologies to all of you who has been waiting so (to) long..... 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
For those who worked me last year as LX/PA6= Z on=20 137kHz:
 
We have not forgotten you!
 
Marcel, PA9M, our QSL manager QSP-ed all ca= rds to=20 me personally, problem however is that I still have to make a sticker or=20 something to put on the card, and to fill that in.
That seems rather simple, but I have to lim= ited=20 computer knowledge to this....... (sri)
 
Besides that a QRL change and upcoming hous= e-move=20 won't help much.
 
I will do all I can to answer all received=20= cards,=20 but pleas be patience; might take some more months.
 
My apologies to all of you who has been wai= ting so=20 (to) long.....
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-88f472f47d33df; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:42:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA021-88f472f47d33df; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:41:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip51D-0002tg-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip51D-0002tX-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip51A-00039G-0o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C6EB1C00084 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.0.166]) by mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7555F1C00089 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105164134480.7555F1C00089@mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005401c81fca$ba228b20$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:41:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.086 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-88d47309b11289; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d47309b11289; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRZk-0008VY-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRZh-0008VP-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:49 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpRZa-0004pi-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071106164635m15009tolqe>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:46:35 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:34 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071646.17068.47309A69000BE173000042AC22064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP There really isn't a need to even specify a power limitation ! If the WRC conferees thought about it for even 1 minute they'd realize that it's self limiting! Not many hams are going to put 300 meter high top loaded towers! You quickly realize in this business that with amateur size towers or antennas that you very soon come up against component limitations in terms of voltage (short verticals) or current (loops). If there were no limits at all the vast majority of hams would still be at the 1 watt or less ERP level, perhaps a very few ambitious hams might reach 5 watts, in any case not enough to cause interference to anything. It is foolishness on the part of the WRC conferees to split hairs between ERP and EIRP! If there is a 1W EIRP ham band, I will continue to renew my Experimental license WD2XGJ which has a 10W ERP limit and no interference reports to date! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Scott Tilley > The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP according to Jim, VE3IQ one > of major driving forces behind it. i May even have an email around here > somewhere explaining the issue from many years back... I think they may > have intended to ask for 1W EIRP and start off by asking for 1W ERP, you > know the old ask for more and have what you want as a concession... > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > Steve McDonald wrote: > >> On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 > >> dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a > >> step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this > >> allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more > >> restrictive EIRP, right? > >> > > > > This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it > > this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of > > reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian > > LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, > > which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned > > about the difference. > > > > At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, > > considering most normal backyard LF antennas. > > > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8a1472e15701c0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472e15701c0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokc9-00034H-JH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokc9-000348-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokc6-00055f-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 X-Trace: 641718536-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CANyjLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:54:21 +0000 Message-ID: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:54:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven from a HF transciever like the IC706. Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much appreciated. 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No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night i copy : WD2XKO WD2XGJ ( Verry good signal ) WD2XES WD2XNS Captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b27474bd21330f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27474bd21330f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvZh-0004EZ-GQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:13:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) 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tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Bonjour Cricri et tous , Michel est au Radio Club =E0 l'heure qu'il est , si tu peux recevoir le=20 137.7 en direct , veilles cette fr=E9quence dans l'apr=E8s midi , il serait=20 bon que tu puisses recevoir son signal dans le grand sud ! le stream=20 audio via internet diffus=E9 par Michel est =E9quivalent au signal qui sort=20 de ton SDR et qui rentre dans la carte son , c'est pour ceux qui n'ont=20 pas de r=E9cepteur sur 137 kHz . Pour ma part je mettrai un grabber d=E9di= =E9=20 =E0 cette manippe cet apr=E8s midi jusqu'a 22:00 utc ( apr=E8s je bascule su= r=20 le trafic transat ! ) il sera dispo =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/GrabberWK.htm 73 qro J-P afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Hello LF , > > Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a1d474b248e331; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:55:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG067-a1d474b248e331; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:54:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwk2Y-00029v-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwk2Y-00029m-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.libero.it ([212.52.84.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwk2V-0001ww-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from mailrelay11.libero.it (192.168.32.128) by smtp-out3.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4688F31B0FBDF5DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:34 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AusRANuzSkfD0kEp/2dsb2JhbACBVA Received: from wca21.libero.it (HELO enri) ([195.210.65.41]) by outrelay11.libero.it with SMTP; 26 Nov 2007 20:54:28 +0100 Received: from ppp-161-46.24-151.libero.it (pre@ppp-161-46.24-151.libero.it [151.24.46.161]) by wca21.libero.it (SlipStream SP Server 5.0.154 built 2006/05/15 18:21:44 -0400 (EDT)); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:29 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: [151.24.46.161] X-Originating-User: [pre] From: "Enrico" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:52:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <000701c829fb$53914aa0$47e8fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OIMO=0.981 Subject: LF: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OIMO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Mal, can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an electrical scheme? Thank you an Bye. IW4CXL Enrico -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 A: rsgb Oggetto: LF: classs E Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b3f473d89c4394; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:15:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f473d89c4394; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:15:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It05M-00028n-Bm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It05L-00028e-Ud for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:11 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It05F-0004AK-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 47048 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Th5.VhcVM1mtvSrVNhz5MNHlfn9rp3UkJR7a.A3jzc1Slwi61yHxongjT.FVrjAiRRRs_Lj3iOmaHFcsedylazekldXFr.qM53WbltNoLkzdsnnh From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <473D8985.4039.13A2543@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.520 Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 16 Nov 2007 at 9:52, hamilton mal wrote: > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. DX is always a relative thing, one man's meat is another man's poison... As the first morning with my newly resonated 160m vertical I did not hear any dx myself though there were plenty of chaps calling CQ DX with no results (but don't think I heard you calling Mal...). I slightly cheekily though called EA6SX who was calling CQ DX and grabbed a quick QSO with him, a new 2007 band slot. Last night I worked LX2007L, another new band slot. Both on 5W output. I do though have a QRM problem on that band in the form of a broadband buzzin which I suspect is coming from a local TV - it was not there this morning. Not had any such problems on 500kHz though, but it does seem the local QRM problems are getting worse and worse. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB42-e0473c349c26a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:59:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB44-e0473c349c26a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:59:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdMc-0007Dc-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdMa-0007DT-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:28 +0000 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsdMV-0003kg-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:28 +0000 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so479836uge for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=BDS0t/UM1pqM9N2UWdZ5aic5AabKJCC8qFrmCiv2xlI=; b=I47RtMOY4kY2QguedO+AV1jlFqtgxWickwvmreF3f/9K4vp/jZFEsj5f9zNBxza9vLpPjWPHEMKsSAYMN70xzI9NV5Gsvzrtmt6x5e16mhoONiF0A/JVKT2eZeMxeglF+cs0X1uQrfIrV3PUIm7ksEf4lgIqk900mbG/hKH46/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kgEGjPuW6W7RnH3DSLLQmf8KriJ+GwaHwoXfSwr7IkW4EUjeg3cMAO8cdnqnZwWL+fsSnjR0nDNtKQZTUQuSlNPINQkYokCLbBv5MEDzeunOeS2+oq0N4WOPS4zJhzlR7r2/WTa6fgM2QAX2M58YRPdhv6xwm+8dIowjV52UHRE= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr734454ugi.1195127900291; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.224.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:20 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC42-104472f269ba5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:20:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104472f269ba5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:20:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2o5-0008J8-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2o4-0008Iu-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:00 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2ny-0002QO-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 2750 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 14:17:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2wrsNq8K/hTgLBniwD+6sgoi6AUPt1EVc7YjOB7KhAUBB8M+W6psyeB/dyvPMCWEbHJXyUC7UWgq5xijKA8fixshU6ks2+H0Hy00BAG2w0MXb5d3w7US5nsjijM4gkx5GSj7RL8ez9j/dLancektzGQeWjoj6w8qxPzJZicr4Q4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.28.126 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 14:17:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: P2vGlGwVM1m5CNFHXLp8F1viVoQBp4_f.Jjfd48cY4D8DrqIuTtpcSg2kxN1mIjsXCDoN3EG9A-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:16:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.131 Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9d44736c2aa323; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:52:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44736c2aa323; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:51:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8Xd-0000jQ-Bj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8Xc-0000jH-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:41 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir8XZ-0001Dk-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162533EA0F0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C501C3EA0C8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736C297.6060100@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (22:45>07:30 utc) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b89472e32963e; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:59:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD073-b89472e32963e; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:59:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IomYT-00056s-AE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IomYS-00056j-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:48 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IomYP-00067T-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:48 +0000 X-Trace: 641754341-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACbBLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0000 Message-ID: <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:58:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Wolf, Thanks you for your comments. Are there any circuits available for this type of transverter please ? The annoying thing is that I used to have an IC706 & sold it when I gave up mobile operating but before my interest in LF. So yours is a 1st model, then that would make it a much better purchase option with lower price when I find one. Probably have to sell the JRC NRD-345 receiver first. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Büscher" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter > Hi Gary, > > I use an IC706 (first model) for my 136 kHz transverter, and it works like > a charm (with the CW filter of course). > The nice thing about this radio is, all oscillators are derived from a 30 > MHz master oscillator, which can easily be synchronized to the 10 MHz > OCXO. In my tranverter, this OCXO drives the transverter (10.136 MHz <-> > 0.136 MHz), so everything is driven from the same reference. > I didn't check if the IC706 can be modified to generate a signal at 10.503 > MHz (+/-). If so, it could be used as a duoband transverter for MF+LF, > using the same mixers, only different bandpass filters in the frontend. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > Gary - G4WGT schrieb: >> Hi All at LF, >> >> There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF >> operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its >> frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 >> this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? >> >> I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on >> to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven >> from a HF transciever like the IC706. >> >> Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks in anticipation. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9d9473ae42812d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:03:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d9473ae42812d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:03:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsGxT-0003Wp-Eq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsGxS-0003Wg-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:03 +0000 Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsGxP-00015D-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:02 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IsGxM-00023p-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:02:56 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:02:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c826b6$4b110890$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcgmtkZYsSGhQ/R9SRCfrJNC6sWspQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Mike, G3XDV, has mentioned that the current guidelines for the band, shown on the IARU Region 1 bandplan, and adopted by some national society bandplans, e.g. RSGB, are now somewhat out-of-date. It would be timely to review whether to remove the existing guidelines. The current guidelines were put into place at the San Marino Conference in 2002 and then the general view then was that band planning was not the preference, hence the proposals were given the status of guidelines. =20 The timetable that I would need to work to would be to put together some proposals, get them formally approved by RSGB Board (sometime early next year) as if I were proposing them they would be submitted as RSGB proposals and then the paper would be submitted to IARU Region 1 Secretariat by their deadline of April 2008. The Conference meets in Nov 2008, when the proposals would be discussed. Suggestions please. We need to consider that any proposals that we make for Region 1 won't conflict with usage of 136kHz in Regions 2 and 3! 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager, IARU Region 1 LF Coordinator. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8b0474c96b32a0; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b0474c96b32a0; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix8gT-0005mN-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix8gS-0005mE-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix8gN-0004M9-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id lARMDCdw002707; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: heard you on 501.3KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8gSm9obiwNCnZlcnkgd2VhaywgYnV0IEkgaGVhcmQgeW91IGluIENXIChhbmQgc2Vl IHlvdXIgc2lnbmFsIGluIFNwZWN0cmFuKSAxMG1pbi4gYWdvIG9uIDUwMS4zS0h6LCB3aGVu IHlvdSB3ZXJlIGluIFgtQmFuZCBRU08gd2l0aCBhIFBBIHN0YXRpb24uDQoNCkxvYy4gaGVy ZSBKTjQ5YXgsIFJ4IGp1c3QgRlQ4NTcgYW5kIE1pbml3aGlwIGFudC4NCg0KSG9wZSBjb25k aXRpb25zIHdpbGwgYmUgYmV0dGVyIGluIHRoZSBuZXh0IGRheSwgc28gd2UgY2FuIHRyeSBh IFFTTy4NCg0KR04NCnZ5NzMNCk1hcmNvDQpERDdQQw0KY2F0cy1vcw0KQ2l0aWdyb3VwIEds b2JhbCBNYXJrZXRzIERldXRzY2hsYW5kIEFHICYgQ28uIEtHYUENCkRpcmVjdDogKzQ5IDY5 IDEzNjYgMTIxNA0KTW9iaWxlOiArNDkgMTcxIDg2NiAxMjE0DQpGYXg6ICs0OSA2OSAxMzY2 IDE1MzYNCm1haWx0bzptYXJjby5zY2hvbHpAY2l0aWdyb3VwLmNvbSANCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ade472c894124; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:44:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade472c894124; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:44:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKDi-0003ct-CE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKDh-0003ck-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:29 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoKDa-0003AB-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:29 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071103144244m14004ma9be>; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:42:54 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:42:42 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:42:42 +0000 Message-Id: <110320071442.12205.472C88E2000B1CF900002FAD22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and captures! WD2XGJ is QRT, bad weather - Hurricane Noel -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : > WD2XGJ ( good copy at the beginning of night ) > > On 189.95 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-1154743fd412ec; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:41:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC37-1154743fd412ec; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:41:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ium49-00040n-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ium46-00040e-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:14 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ium43-000159-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 71228 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2007 09:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 09:39:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nwvvx4EVM1ksdpTnXGedioyExqcYHBN4AljmBqbFgzsCjqlkeo9Foi3XxCcIx0RbX64De5_LenAW3C5yuaYYlRfE.P6ENpqYUWM3VpWUwEiQV5RngLh9snnzzGhOknCMySk- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:58, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between > 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. Interesting comments John. You must certainly bear in mind that working crossband 80m to 500kHz is currently a very minor interest and something that the vast majority of users of 80m will be totally unaware of. In that respect the choice of 3533 is perhaps unfortunate as it is in a part of the band heavily used for local QSOs on that band. Somewhere rather higher, say between 3565 and 3580 or so would be far better. 7033 in theory is OK but does tend to get clobbered by RTTY and other data modes. To call CQ on 80m and say QSX 502 is doubly confusing. For somebody not aware of 500kHz it implies he is listening on 3502, probably for DX as that is the DX window. But there again there is a certain Spanish station with a big signal who calls on 160m regularly listening on 40m for replies. Those in the know say he has a high noise level on Top Band so can't hear anything there, which is rather silly. Very rarely actually hear him working anybody! 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-d3472cd71524d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:16:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB31-d3472cd71524d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:16:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPPe-0007Dg-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPPd-0007DT-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:09 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPPa-0003P2-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C2481C00087 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B2ED1C00086 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:16:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103201601308.4B2ED1C00086@mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:16:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim , Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi Assume nothing seen on 503 ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% > copy > at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it > running for a while. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> Graham, & All at LF, >> >> I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no > other >> decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift >> when > I >> see this message come through on the LF group mail. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> >> >> > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get >> > the >> > option , only 200/170 hz ? >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM >> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> > >> > >> >> LF, >> >> >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift > soon >> >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8a8472f013810d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:40:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA052-8a8472f013810d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:40:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Jn-0005wy-L1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Jn-0005wp-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0Jk-0004t8-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.101) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0027F333 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:40:26 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work out. How are the % figures measured. One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-add4731f3e71a0; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:21:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add4731f3e71a0; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:20:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoZw-0005z8-AB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoZv-0005yz-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpoZq-00028T-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:35 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lA7HJxGw091954 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <001c01c82162$6b0cc610$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:19:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: -916: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Laurence, So far I have made 220 mini-whips and not a single unit has failed due to st= atic AFAIK. As the pick-up element is small, the induced voltage will be much lower than= on a conventional whip antenna. The imput impedance is not really high, so=20= some protection has been build in and the J310 is a sturdy device. I have had one report from a failed home made mini-whip. On the photo a roas= ted resistor could be seen. So, it should have been a slight direct hit. Thi= s particular mini-whip was mounted 18 metre high. You can find some photo's here: http://www.pa4nic.nl/Mini-Whip/MiniWhip-pagina.html 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt=20 --=20 Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 494 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Laurence,
 
So far I have made 220 mini-whips and not a= single=20 unit has failed due to static AFAIK.
As the pick-up element is small, the induce= d=20 voltage will be much lower than on a conventional whip antenna. The imput=20 impedance is not really high, so some protection has been build in and the J= 310=20 is a sturdy device.
 
I have had one report from a failed home=20 made mini-whip. On the photo a roasted resistor could be seen. So,= it=20 should have been a slight direct hit. This particular mini-whip was mounted=20= 18=20 metre high.
 
You can find some photo's here:
 
73,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt 
 

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Download de gratis SPAMfighter vandaag nog! ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC31-10747378620c9; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC23-10747378620c9; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLYp-0003On-RK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLYp-0003Oe-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLYm-0005Ae-KR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074AC3EA0D2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2523EA0E2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47378603.4030108@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:23 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <47377A3D.1010506@online.fr> <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> In-Reply-To: <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! 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Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4672/Sun Nov 4 12:38:42 2007 on mail-in-14.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 137-activity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C81F19.C13D1B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 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Ge LF.
2day copy any time ago on 137.7KHz in qrss3= -mode:=20 DJ6GT, PA3CPM, F6BWO, S57A, DK7SU.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C81F19.C13D1B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC22-1134737acf7130; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC35-1134737acf7130; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:31:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrO8p-0004EN-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrO8p-0004EE-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrO8n-0006a3-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13032DA4D8 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:30:38 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071112013038.7ca6d71c@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 EST G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Well done Ha-Jo. > > From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have > seen on the band. > > The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the > second night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 > transmission is just visible for the first time. > > _Shetland grabber_ > (http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg) Hello LF, The conditions on MF are certainly improving, with lower QRN static levels. I've seen G0MRF's beacon several times recently, and have seen the PSK31 on the waterfall more than once. I will attempt to decode it one evening soon! Congratulations on the cross-band QSOs Ha-Jo. Hopefully the wind will drop soon here and I can repair the damage to my antenna suffered during some severe storms on Thursday (gusts to 93 mph / 150 kph) which did no more damage than snap one capacity wire! Then I hope to be QRV for cross-band QSOs. Cheers and 73 -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a67472b594923e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:07:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a67472b594923e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:07:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzzD-0005qW-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InzzC-0005qN-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inzz9-0004Z5-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A299408023 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4345C408023 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A749495B97 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1194023217.472b593135b72@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling=20= CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a00473623b02f9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:33:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a00473623b02f9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:33:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxxF-00068x-Bp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxxE-00068o-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:24 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxxB-0004tU-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DB24E5FD9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kZWbrOWpewH for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38294E594B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:25 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:32:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c823e1$46912430$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.309,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI3PDN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C823E9.A8558C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I captured signal from GI3PDN on 501.525kHz. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I captured signal from GI3PDN on 501.525kHz. =

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ac3473a42fc1c7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:36:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac3473a42fc1c7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:36:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is6EA-0001sh-KL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is6EA-0001sY-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85] helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is6E5-00050N-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Is6E2-0004iF-04; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:35:26 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (rI-C-UZd8hBFRhOoFeiselvMTXTV-ODh2WCfiVfI6kyrvloTlncMLptTvCjmPmcZ27@[217.95.68.235]) by fwd31.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:35:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: Cc: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 14 Nov 2007 00:35 GMT Message-ID: <1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0@fwd31.t-online.de> X-ID: rI-C-UZd8hBFRhOoFeiselvMTXTV-ODh2WCfiVfI6kyrvloTlncMLptTvCjmPmcZ27 X-TOI-MSGID: cf8176af-7b45-4159-a38d-c68cc3d2f7d9 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n schrieb: > Ha-Jo, > > Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. > WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > Dear Warren, I have listened around 506,5 kHz and 507 kHz last night and this night until 00.10 UTC but heard nil, sri, just a beacon "Z" on 507,1 kHz. I guess I should have been located at the coast of western Europe to hear WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6. Even on GM4SLV's grabber I have seen just a few dots on 507 kHz. But heard GI4PDE beaconing with interruptions around 23.52 UTC on 501,4 kHz, RST 579 with QSB. And at 00.23 UTC I heard G3KEV calling VE1ZZ on 502,6 kHz, RST 569 but also with deep QSB. Already around 16.00 UTC I heard G3KEV with good signal in QSO with GM4SLV, but at this time his signal has had a rather long QSB period. GM4SLV remained unheard, but I have got that he has repaired his MF aerial. Now, at 00.30 UTC, I go to bed. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > > Dear all, > > > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > > contact started at > > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > > told him I would wait. > > > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > > which he sent to F2JB. > > > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > > became almost unreadible. > > > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b93472cc571cd; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:01:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD085-b93472cc571cd; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:01:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoO9l-00066q-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoO9i-00066h-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:38 +0000 Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.227] helo=smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoO9f-0007Zq-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 18100 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0000 Message-ID: <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:20 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > a mode that noone else bothers about. Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-c2473c76422d0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB14-c2473c76422d0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:39:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ishhy-0008Fy-Sp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ishhy-0008Fp-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ishht-0008UV-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:49 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAFGacRt019199 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000b01c827a5$af1b53f0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.256 Subject: LF: Re: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Mal, I do hear it here as well, though it is not present all the time. There are rumours amongst local hams that it is audible over all Europe. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Middelburg, Netehrlands JO11tm -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 515 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA091-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmq-0000SK-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmp-0000SB-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxXml-0005SK-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQpH1Y0020ldTLk0501P00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JR1d1Y00E2Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=_fUlUN7SGtgEVv-ywGEA:9 a=RJkTXe3dtYupquXqCn8A:7 a=-_CuFaygpYsBooWEzjTP_h2APWEA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 Message-ID: <4BD649516CDF4CE18041D66405E9F97E@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: Cc: References: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:01:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Mal, Why not post the schematic on the Lowfer forum? http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php 73 Warren K2ORS ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: LF: Re: R: classs E > Hi Enrico > The cct diagram is too large for the reflector, so would have to go > direct. > It E pa is vy inter dependent on V/W/Q etc and pse refer to Tonne s/ware > V2.01 for design criteria. Mine is qrp for 500 and works fb and reliable. > No smoke etc hi > Pse listen for me on 502.5 khz and call me on 3533/7033 khz for a xband > QSO. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO9SH > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Enrico" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:52 PM > Subject: LF: R: classs E > > >> Hi Mal, >> can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an > electrical >> scheme? >> Thank you an Bye. >> >> IW4CXL >> Enrico >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal >> Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 >> A: rsgb >> Oggetto: LF: classs E >> >> >> Hi all >> I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for >> true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform > was >> almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an > almost >> perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not > make >> a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only > slightly >> better. >> Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 >> khz, >> so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the >> anamoly >> at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable >> capicator. >> I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed >> through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the > design >> voltage, but improved with a V increase. >> In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very >> robust. >> The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, >> indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the >> base of the inv L. >> I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E >> constructors. >> Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old >> ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an >> old marine tx. >> Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. >> 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC14-118472d8bc4180; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:07:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC310-118472d8bc4180; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:07:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IobRG-0005yu-KM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IobRG-0005yl-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IobRD-0003l1-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:37 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8539DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:06:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:06:28 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071104090628.09e6f19b@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.545,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 502.35 CQ G3XIZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I'm hearing a very weak signal from G3XIZ calling CQ on 502.35kHz at 0857UTC. RST perhaps 229, needing external tuneable pre-amp and 10Hz AF filter to pull out the callsign. Pretty good for daylight. No response to my replies though! Yesterday I had a short QSO with GI3PDN at around the same time. There is obviously some long range sky-wave around at this sort of time. -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9654730c7745f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:58:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654730c7745f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:58:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUZB-0000hY-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUZA-0000hP-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpUZ7-0000GP-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter78.comcast.net ([204.127.197.178]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071106195756m1200gpri8e>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:57:57 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter78.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:57:56 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb" Cc: "hamilton mal" Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:57:56 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal, I spoke to Jack VE1ZZ about two weeks ago on 160 meters - he said that he heard an Irish station running .1W ERP (perhaps Finbar?) on 500kHz on 19 different occasions to that point. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "hamilton mal" > I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in VE. > There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband 3533 > and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. > The mode is CW > De Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-11f474dcf1d242; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC47-11f474dcf1d242; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxTU7-0008HB-G2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxTU6-0008H2-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:14 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxTU2-0005Lh-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JKt91Y0071GhbT80505V00; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:03 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JLRy1Y0052Uxt080300000; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gotin1wS3JkA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=SnD-9OEuZw_F7A911NkA:9 a=VOAYEQjk2E7zSUtFKzPbxniinbYA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER>, <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:25:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: LF: 137 kHz Pictures of the WD2XGJ Transmit loop and tuner Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hello the list, I have uploaded photos of the WD2XGJ transmit loop and antenna tuner to KC3OL's Lowfer Forum: http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aba472f00bc2b0; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:38:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba472f00bc2b0; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:38:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0He-0005lo-EJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Hd-0005lf-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:21 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0Hb-0003o7-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:21 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96E9DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:36:05 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105113605.12393c51@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:04:59 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, LF, > > This is on the call sign search on the www.qrz.com web site :- > > G3BIK > E CHICKEN > 21 TOWNSEND CRESCENT KIRKHILL MORPETH > NORTHUMBERLAND NE61 2XP > UK > > I have not seen his signal yet. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Hello Gary, LF, Yes I'd found that on QRZ.COM (always my first port of call!) but no other details anywhere else. I recognized the G3BIK call from my formative years - I'm originally from the North East of England myself! I'll perhaps send him a QSL card direct as a SWL report. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b9d473a74ec123; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d473a74ec123; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:09:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is9YD-0002Q4-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is9YC-0002Pv-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:28 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is9Y8-0006Ww-Qs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C90E4E5F3A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V+24TdAs9MYX for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED04E5F36 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:07:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82673$f1632400$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] WD2XSH_17 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8267C.5329FD00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I spent last day in installing my new receiving loop. It was not so easy, becouse it is 200 square meter large. But you can see the result on added captures. I received signal from WD2XSH/17 (distance is 6490km)! It is my firs reception of any station from USA on 500kHz. I am happy! GL and GM! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I spent last day in installing my new receiving lo= op. It was not so easy, becouse it is 200 square meter large. But you can see the resul= t on added captures.

I received signal from= =A0 WD2XSH/17 (distance is 6490km)!=A0 It is my fi= rs reception of=A0 any station from USA= on 500kHz. I am happy!

 

GL and GM!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.F21ECFD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b0847405da3180; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:43:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b0847405da3180; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:43:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmIh-0002yD-EH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmIg-0002y4-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:10 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmIb-0002Tm-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 14698 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2007 15:43:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=boLI8lpFo8+PCFAsUv3bkWpfrnaVQVBCOiQwPK3LBDaZEfR9J1pENK68GPrKEjOjxPaaObwzXu9G5M2MGuO2HOt0RpSqQDTPUiekQlB5FW17Ojt02wPE3/HyVDhE75u0Par7KS8v5ZHmDN2bvpfaA9cNSwiP/VSDugfCJcUbnlg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.15.149 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:43:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hpNh_AwVM1k9rinAp03NybcKU2vr5PrEt2iuMQJfx_7d4ybg6cwBYI1fsgN3gN17rYGEz.Ae55TjpgETfOSr2RmGKT_K From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:29 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <00d201c829f4$fb81b580$46726a58@wgt01> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi, Gary. Copying your 22/23Hz RTTYsigs here also. The G0MRF beaon is very strong at this QTH, but you are 100% during the breaks in the G0MRF beacon. I'm using WinWarbler (freeware), which works fine but is a bit "wide open" and gets distracted by any other nearby transmissions. "G4WGT IO83QP TESTING", "JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG G4WGT G4WGT RYRYRYJ" etc,etc. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 November 2007 15:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Chris, LF, Thank you for the report, keep watching. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Gary, > I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so > far. Your about S3. > Chris, G3XVL > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> shift >> over greater distances. >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b9b474ae0863e1; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:05:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD095-b9b474ae0863e1; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwfUh-0001bb-GZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwfUg-0001bS-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwfUd-0005VE-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:17 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:02:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:02:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2007 15:02:41.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[64239150:01C8303D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C83045.C2F6F3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj 0:35z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b0b269f809b1f3069998e4ecb6c1a57342350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thank you, I will take a look. de kd4wov -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Johan H. Bodin Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 06:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E These articles have the information you need to design and tune a class E amplifier: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/010102qex009.pdf http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~culler/AIIT/papers/radio/Sokal%20AACD5-poweramps .pdf This program can be used to find the initial values for impedances and components: http://tonnesoftware.com/classe.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b584739cbe235; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:08:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b584739cbe235; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:08:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IryIG-0000bQ-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IryIF-0000bH-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:15 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IryHG-0000Va-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:15 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lADG5QPG015864 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:26 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lADG5QbL029457 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:26 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lADG5PAg029892; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:25 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:25 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47396399.7060204@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47396399.7060204@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi J-P. Thanks for the report. 73 Joe On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3c472cc08a28; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:40:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c472cc08a28; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:40:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoNuU-0005xM-GW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoNuT-0005xD-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:53 +0000 Received: from smtpout0150.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.150] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoNuP-0002TS-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:53 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.20) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E00268D1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:39:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:36:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Try CW which is the norm on this band, lots of QSO'S within the UK and xband DX galore, at least as far as SV/YU and 9H1. Most UK stns active on CW are being heard in those places. All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with a mode that noone else bothers about. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > Hi All, > > By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz shift. > > Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. > > Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. > > Reports welcome. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a07474486903db; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG041-a07474486903db; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvDK-0006OG-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvDK-0006O7-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuvDG-0005QG-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:21 +0000 X-Trace: 638063907-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.95.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJ4UREdYal/k/2dsb2JhbACRAQ Received: from 88-106-95-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.95.228]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 19:26:05 +0000 Message-ID: <14e501c82c74$5c5a7640$e45f6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071121-0, 21/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Rapido Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, A little while ago it was mentioned on here that Rapido from Rik ON7YD could be used for automatic downloading of grabbers. I decided to give it a try whilst running my test transmission today but although I set it for automatic download at 5 min intervals it will only download at the moment I click the "Start Download" button & no further downloads follow. Has anyone any clues ?? 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9d7473b9c813d0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7473b9c813d0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:10:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsTEP-0005gx-QS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsTEP-0005go-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsTEJ-0007eP-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCD131C00085 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:09:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.162]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6E4E81C00081 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:09:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071115010908451.6E4E81C00081@mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001701c82724$21843ec0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:08:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: EER Transmitter project , V2 pdf file upload , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As promised, =20 Jim has uploaded a V2 of his EER 'project' , the PDF file is located at the= link below and my be down loaded from the news group.=20 =20 The group is totally open and my prove a useful forum, should constructional= projects follow its publication , lines of discussion, file up loads and t= he addition of pages , may be freely added and prove useful in the dissemin= ation of information and practical solutions to encountered 'problems'. =20 =20 =20 =20 Tnx=20 =20 Graham=20 =20 G0NBD=20 Nov 12 2007 by Jim_M0BMU =20 =20 Dear 500kHz group, I have recently uploaded EER_Transverter_v2.pdf to this site, which describes the prototype system. Any comments welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU=20 http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/EER_Transverter_v2.pdf?gda=3DFpsNtkcAAA= Cku8ip98KV-SChsIe2TxpAEW93t2O0tUj7-uNlBEXjW2G1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDT1pV1Og9oeqw= S6db_U_lgaw8OU8Ap4Nqh177si8htneQ ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As promised,

 

Jim has uploaded a V2 of his=20 EER  'project' , the PDF file is located at the link below and my be do= wn=20 loaded from the news group.

 

The group is totally open and my=20 prove a useful forum, should constructional projects follow its publication=20 ,  lines of discussion, file u= p=20 loads and the addition of pages , may be freely added and  prove useful in the dissemination of=20 information and practical solutions to&nbs= p;=20 encountered =91problems=92.

 

 

  

 

Tnx

 

Graham

 

G0NBD =

 
 
Nov 12 2007 by Jim_M0BMU
Dear 500kHz group,
I have recently uploaded=20 EER_Transverter_v2.pdf to this site, which
describes the prototype=20 system. Any comments welcome.
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de=20 M0BMU
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a324744020719d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a324744020719d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-000490-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-00048r-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumOQ-0001HQ-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003E57E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:08 +0000 X-SpamScore: 30 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 30,2,0,982ccae85b97e822,abc867c618cd1129,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:966:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1535:1543:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2110:2194:2196:2198:2199:2200:2201:2379:2393:2540:2551:2553:2559:2562:2693:2729:2828:2892:2916:3027:3294:3354:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4225:4250:4385:4648:5007:6119: 6248:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: (100%) BODY: contains "rx"; Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Its the way you "TELL THEM" john. Have you heard the one about the " WHINGING POME" G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: LF: Cross-band etiquette > Hello LF, > > It is normal, polite amateur practice to a) listen for a few minutes and > b) send a signal such as QRL? when selecting an operating frequency. > > On 500kHz itself this is rarely a problem, as band occupancy is > generally low. This doesn't mean it is never an issue, even on > 500, though. > > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between > 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. > > A 500kHz station (no names, no pack drill) was heard calling "CQ QSX > 3533/7033" on another 500 frequency (the beauty of having 2 receivers on > 500) and then, without checking if 3533 was in use.... no "QRL?" or > other courtesy was given..... he started calling on 3533 "CQ QSX > 502"... and then proceeded to alternate between the 2 bands until he > got his desired cross-band QSO. Why he calls on 80m "QSX 502" is > a mystery to me ...surely he isn't expecting a "reverse cross-band QSO" > with an existing 500 NoV holder? Why not do it all on 500? > > > > The QSO already underway was swiftly and politely abandoned, both on 500 > and 3533 to make way, without any fuss and in a way that was perhaps > unnoticed to the station concerned. > > Sadly this isn't the first time I've observed such behaviour. > > Occasionally a non-MF aware station will call on 3533, not knowing that > it's being monitored for cross-band replies, and it's perhaps > excusable - not everyone knows of, or is interested in, MF. Even if > they call "QRL? it might not be possible to reply to them. Many of us > have "RX only" setups for the 80m side. In this instance the correct > thing for us is to move our 80m RX frequency and announce it in our CQ > calls. > > > I find it disappointing however that active MF stations seem to blindly > assume that 3533 is free for their use and don't first a) check 500 for > obvious cross-band activity away from their own 500 frequency nor > b) check 3533 itself. A quick tune round 500 would have quickly made it > obvious that a cross-band QSO was underway. > > If 3533 is in use they are free to find another nearby frequency and > announce it in their calls, surely? I've done this many times and still > had successful contacts. There's nothing magic in 3533 itself. > > > I see regular complaints here decrying the poor operating abilities of > the current "non-CW" generation, mainly from one source. > > I suggest we all need to check our methods and motives. > > For some stations the driving force seems to be "DX DX DX" and first > sniff of an new QSO, in-band or cross-band, and out come all the shoddy > practices of general HF operation - calling without listening, ignoring > other QSOs underway, assuming ownership of certain frequencies. > > It's bad manners and poor operating. > > 500 isn't a "DX at all costs" band - it's an experimental allocation > where the passing of information and observing of signal strengths and > propagation conditions should be more important than a "569 QRU 73" > QSO just to get another new country in the log. > > Just sticking to single 500kHz and 80m frequencies and blindly calling > "CQ" regardless of what is already happening on the band(s) is simply > indicative of poor operating ability. > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-944473cc4731cc; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-944473cc4731cc; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ismvo-0000Na-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ismvn-0000NR-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:27 +0000 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ismvl-0000qG-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:27 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so552715nfb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8AhTyGbOalvwdR1iT8MsueCMT9BDvJKuf1MJ4uvBdR8=; b=rCROJGxzwJVcvoEm+MrZS7kmwwiKxcYhqktdSlIg8uMjdBlGk0dUhV9edBeseLI6U7tGo5j2OHJtPVU73b36WaGyVMGVsT22VDmlzBKHmN8eJPLJp9794X2uJCWUtoO12UqUYb/xHzIxEvXCTeRHkmwTuvbpcLgoWvG3YYNHG3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o3qYFeV8Dgj9sa+vsnIkkhTYH3fBgPxLGrFc4BYS5rbZ3WB42Wd0PJqciPUjWxTXM77LTpKGsdW+L5ljXUv0S3vLqcnKy8V7Wiu3CL+9DgjsiW/pyS6gGk39q6fImGeWIPjX5+h0hzPAZX2HMnVgPNtFu1IEDvNwMCbneYrkE+M= Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr1047498fga.1195164684164; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:24 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB) Chris, G3XVL On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > > Hi all > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all > the > time, and vy strong at times. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > ------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB)

Chris, G3XVL

On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal < g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
Hi all
Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the
time, and vy strong at times.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8e4474366ff370; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:00:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e4474366ff370; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:00:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuc4Z-0002ut-Dt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuc4Z-0002uk-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iuc4X-0005Wi-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cd6.1d34c275 (29679) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:59:46 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195599586" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195599586 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 20/11/2007 22:53:56 GMT Standard Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Er....have I missed something...? ------------------------- Of course you have!! I think the appropriate reference started something like..... "Theirs was not to reason why....":-) -------------------------------1195599586 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 20/11/2007 22:53:56 GMT Standard Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Er....have I missed something...?
-------------------------
Of course you have!!
 
I think the appropriate reference started something=20 like.....
 
"Theirs was not to reason why....":-)
-------------------------------1195599586-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b414738d665246; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:40:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC095-b414738d665246; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:40:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhwm-0006Kk-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhwl-0006KW-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:59 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irhwg-0000Qj-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:59 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071112223936m15009thk5e>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:47 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 Message-Id: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Extended Grabber range X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, What is the URL for the grabber? Is it set for cw or QRSS? Thanks, -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV > Hello LF > > With the current good conditions for transatlantic signals I've > extended the frequency coverage of the grabber. It now covers from 501 > to 508kHz. The AR7030 has a 9.5kHz IF filter which seems to work nicely. > The DI beacon area around 505 is rather crowded and our part of the > spectrum is squashed into a smaller space but there's a chance now to > view the W beacons around 505-508. > > I can still see David G0MRF's beacon on 503.7. > > Cheers, > > John > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB24-eb472f099b12d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:16:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB55-eb472f099b12d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:16:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0sM-0006cX-AP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0sL-0006cO-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:17 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0sJ-0004n8-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:17 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC4DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:15:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:13:59 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >=20 >=20 >=20 Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In=20 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF?=20 With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8b047440a673c8; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:37:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b047440a673c8; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:37:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumxH-0004dH-E4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumxH-0004d8-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumxD-0004Mt-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:14 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DD3DA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:32:59 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121103259.2859552f@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.157 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Have you heard the one about the " > WHINGING POME" pome (pm) n. A fleshy fruit, such as an apple, pear, or quince, having several seed chambers and an outer fleshy part largely derived from the hypanthium. Fruity! John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-198473f63917d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:56:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB48-198473f63917d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:56:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVeM-000667-74 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVeL-00065y-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:25 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVeI-0000Wb-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:25 +0000 X-Trace: 630067668-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIzxPkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you can change that parameter so no problem. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. >> > > > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? > > I was intially set at 45.45Bd... > > Will try again at 45 > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fe472cd874149; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:22:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe472cd874149; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:22:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPVN-0007JL-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPVM-0007JC-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPVI-0000d5-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071103202134.EHIK26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:21:34 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071103202134.QVFF17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:21:34 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:21:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472CD83E.11360.2D42337@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Port problem fixed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have now solved the parallel port problem reported earlier. I tried a suggestion from Alan, G3NYK, (thanks Alan) but that didn't fix it. In the end I deleted all of the programs that were on the computer when I got it (secondhand), and the relevant pin sits at 0V all the time except when I am keying. I suspect one of the programs was periodically checking the port. de Mike, G3XDV ============ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8d0472bb74f4e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:48:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d0472bb74f4e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:48:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6FT-0008OH-DJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6FR-0008O8-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:21 +0000 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io6FO-0000fo-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:21 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([64.180.181.86]) by priv-edtnes73.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071102234815.MEEK16471.priv-edtnes73.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:48:15 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (d64-180-181-86.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.181.86]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id E5HN3KKEQX for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:48:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <472BB73F.7000909@telus.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:48:15 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP according to Jim, VE3IQ one of major driving forces behind it. i May even have an email around here somewhere explaining the issue from many years back... I think they may have intended to ask for 1W EIRP and start off by asking for 1W ERP, you know the old ask for more and have what you want as a concession... 73 Scott VE7TIL Steve McDonald wrote: >> On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 >> dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a >> step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this >> allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more >> restrictive EIRP, right? >> > > This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it > this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of > reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian > LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, > which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned > about the difference. > > At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, > considering most normal backyard LF antennas. > > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-90b4733778738e; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:55:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b4733778738e; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:54:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqELq-0003YV-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqELo-0003YM-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqELj-0005Z2-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:42 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071108205119m14004khl3e>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:51:30 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:18 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Andy Talbot" Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:18 +0000 Message-Id: <110820072051.13860.473376C6000538830000362422064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Andy, There's info on submarine transmissions on the vlf.it web site: http://www.vlf.it/submarine/sbmarine.html The U.S. closed down its ELF facility in Clam Lake Wisconsin in 2004. It's interesting to note that it took 3 Megawatts to achieve an ERP of 8 watts! Good write up at: http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil/UploadedFiles/fs_clam_lake_elf2003.pdf -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" > Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. > The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at > 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would > have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the > trace. > > Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine > transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website > somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from > a Russian transmitter. > > Andy G4JNT > > > > On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > > (the latter with radio direction finding). > > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > > the E-field spectrogram. > > > > Cheers, > > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-18e473779b62cf; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:53:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB38-18e473779b62cf; 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Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1194817912.47377978e7d92@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 501.5kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF 20071111 21.48UTC: Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 501.5kHz Q3 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC44-6e9473e4c28284; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:04:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC63-6e9473e4c28284; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:04:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItCzt-0003Iz-Sa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItCzt-0003Iq-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItCzp-0007VN-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DdSs1Y0071GXsuc0A01v00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:17 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id De1F1Y0031pKLLP0800000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=65lhGVEWBcmW6XmWf-kA:9 a=z0O1nfVmXXZPnuoppJJqpkl2bRUA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:01:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.286 Subject: LF: 2nd QSO G14DPE / WE2XGR/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Just completed another QSO with Finbar. This one lasted about 15 minutes and call signs, two sets of signal reports (to report changing conditions), outdoor temperatures and other bits of information were successfully exchanged. There was less QRN at XGR/2 than Tuesday night making copy on this end somewhat easier...although signals were still very weak. Finbar appeared to have very good copy. There was fairly rapid (about 10 second) QSB that would take signals into the noise but in short order they popped back up again. This QSO happened to take place at the same time as Tuesday night's QSO (not planned that way), although Finbar reported hearing XGR/2 in beacon mode at least a half hour earlier (0030Z). More study of this path should prove interesting now that we know Tuesday night's QSO wasn't a one time occurance. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a354731e635273; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:22:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG097-a354731e635273; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:22:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipneb-0005c7-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipnea-0005by-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:20 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpneX-0006IW-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:20 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2007 16:21:11 -0000 Received: from p54857D7D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.125.125] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2007 17:21:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/I368FgiPIa6MwRL0Vb6HJKcvDy5I5f3D+0Gaoup 7PJHjL6bqhWaQQ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:21:08 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <704645404.20071107172108@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: LF: 137 kHz 6/7 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Despite the high noise level copied WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS on 137kHz last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC24-1ca4735fb923a7; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:42:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC38-1ca4735fb923a7; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:42:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqvHS-0005JK-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqvHS-0005JB-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqvHO-0004JT-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from PC2 (81.35.163.245) by ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 47318255000B884A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c823c9$3abad2e0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:40:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Strong signals from Mal calling on 502.5kHz for xband contacts, unfortunatel= y not ready my hf antenna yet. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
Strong signals from Mal calling on 502.5kHz= for=20 xband contacts, unfortunately not ready my hf antenna yet.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a8a47459b2e36b; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a47459b2e36b; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDdp-0001qR-5v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDdo-0001qI-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:56 +0000 Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDdk-0003e1-CO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:56 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FpXY1Y0030b6N640A04w00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fr6h1Y0082Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=hignZnnQs1Vf0ahBKu8A:9 a=HnyQb9VYAZCtPv-Qa9uAUB8eKZAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=ueRglchP_ixMHA-fmlsA:9 a=OGbkLqpqnFVYp2Wa9iIA:7 a=4aLXv5Bt7cC7D80y66VpYnDOXyQA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <98AF6F271D4F494B8AD726F53A90E659@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:06:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the reports and captures of my short transm= ission! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the report= s and=20 captures of my short transmission!
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
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capture xgj
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------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ab3474359fa332; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab3474359fa332; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCM-0002bV-F2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCL-0002bM-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:01 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.148] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IubCI-00028h-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:01 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E003CD075 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:50 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,6e787b74756f832b,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2377:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2693:2828:3027:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6119:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,Do mainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m43-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.43]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.421 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Johan Tnx for your observations and info on class E. >From what you say there is no real point in having two class E pa's connected in series, just use a single ended pa and choose the components to suit the power output required. The second harmonic and all other harmonics can be suppressed with a LPF. My single ended pa is very clean and symetrical sine wave without any LPF although I have one in line, because I had already built it and use it. I was surprised that there were no odd harmonics detectable on the output rf signal considering all the sq wave in the pa driver etc. There has been very little response from anyone else about class E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of amplifier, or do not use them. I expect most are using class A,AB or C on 137 and 500 khz. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > Mal, > > for proper class E operation, the drain waveform must be allowed to be > non-symmetrical so you cannot just use a center tapped output transformer. In > other words, there must be no "hard coupling" between the drains in a class E > push-pull amplifier. One way is to design two identical class E amplifiers, each > designed for an output power P into the load R. Note: Each amplifier must have > its own DC feeding choke - no center tapped stuff here! Then feed these two > amplifiers with push-pull drive (180 degrees phase shift) and connect the > primary winding of an output transformer between the outputs of the two > amplifiers. The output transformer should be designed so that 2*R will be "seen" > when "looking" into the primary. The total output power will be 2*P. With > sufficient Q in the series tanks (C2, L), the output current will be almost > sinusoidal, as in the single ended case, so the two halves of the amplifier will > not "know" that they are actually operating in push-pull. Since the two series > resonant tanks of the two amplifiers and the output transformer primary will all > be connected in series, you can simplify the circuit by using a single resonant > tank with twice the L and half the C. This may look assymetrical but it gives > exactly the same result (a few pF stray C can be neglected at these low > frequencies...). One can say that this is simply two class E amplifiers > connected in series. However, the even harmonic cancelling property of push-pull > is still there because of circuit (and drive) symmetry. > > I have tried this configuration, for example on 160m QRP, and it seems to work > very well. > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > > hamilton mal skrev: > > Hi all > > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > > someone has a push pull design. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b24472979cf298; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:01:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC058-b24472979cf298; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:01:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InU2O-0007JK-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InU2N-0007JB-Pv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:19 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InU2J-0007tv-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 88315 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.85.26 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:00:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OlweC1gVM1k5LWGFQAcYNg7ohAiFzjAZ8Pz_Ij.ThRrkTAi0ieNSBL3dI03pr8HhjD1_cDEeUui8F65AcWy2oztR0bTWPnz3la8PmgvbkhAUvhs0 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 31 Oct 2007 at 22:40, Michael Probert wrote: > Thanks for report Jose. > > Static was terrible here but nice to know we are making it into EA. > > Hope to work you cross band > > Mike GW4HXO > _____ > > Hello all, > > Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN. > Your static was obviously why you wre having difficulty trying to QSO G3UNT Mike. I was listening at the time, both excellent 589ish signals and way above my noise level and I heard you both repeatedly call each other. At one time I heard Brian give you (if I remember) something like 439. What I find strange is how I clearly copy stations far better than many other people. Maybe it is my vertical, with no horizontal top section, and it picks up less local QRN and more signals, or maybe it is down to the Datong UC1 and the K2 it is feeding. Be what it may, most people are absolutely clear copy (though GI3PDN was somewhat weaker last night in the short time I heard Ray). But I was really struggling to hear some of the 80m stations on the other side of the QSOs, wierd.... So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! As to the legality of crossband, we are quite definitely normal amateur stations (with special permit to allow us to transmit on 500k). I see no problem with other countries working us crossband, just like we used to do years ago between 6m and 10m before we got that band. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b0c472a1bd1192; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:33:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC028-b0c472a1bd1192; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:32:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IneqO-0000q6-NO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IneqO-0000px-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IneqK-0008NC-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAB9DA4D8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:32:29 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=MP_mFnEWanLNipV7iH4LVHLfyN X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --MP_mFnEWanLNipV7iH4LVHLfyN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz > De G3KEV > It's back again! I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between the "PAT"? 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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello John, LF! Yes, I can see and listen these dots on 503.600kHz. There is heavy QRN this evening, as you can see on the picture, but these dots are noticeable. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:54 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... Hello LF, I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? 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2007 02:13:04 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071118011304656.0FE2A1C00084@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005e01c82980$3299ebc0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> <00bb01c82962$6e3303b0$46726a58@wgt01> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:13:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.083 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok Gary, Well the rx situatiuon is a little 'odd' the Ra1778 is the last of the non cpu contolled rx's made by racal and the ra6790gm is about as good as it got with the cpu controlled set-up Must be over 15 years differance in the ages , but the 1778 has proved to be quieter, to the point of resolving signals that the other will not .....I had read that it was 'tweaked' compared with the 1772 The only thing is , the front end in the 6790 dose not suffer from cross mod , caused by the local MW station.. but with a line filter , the 1778 is actually comming out on top ... quaint ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi graham, LF, > > I just posted reply when your mail came thro' Thanks. > > I presume that is a good sign that the RA1778 is quieter meaning Rx noise > level ?? better SNR. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:31 PM > Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > > >> Hi John, >> >> Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need >> select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is >> dead center on 503.6 >> >> G .... >> >> Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , >> looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" >> To: "rsgb" >> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM >> Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? >> >> >>> Hello LF, >>> I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal >>> PSK31 >>> >>> What mode is it? >>> >>> -- >>> John GM4SLV >>> IP90gg >>> Clousta, Shetland >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: >>> 11/16/2007 22:58 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-cc473d7980257; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:05:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB24-cc473d7980257; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:05:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isyzv-0001vV-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isyzt-0001vM-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:29 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isyzp-0006JM-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:27 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FD8DA4D6 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:00:35 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out Hello Mal and LF group, I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed the late night excitement. Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and finally 10mW. At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard from Dave later in the evening. The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. John GM4SLV Clousta, Shetland IP90gg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b09472f94017c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC025-b09472f94017c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:06:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpA5n-0000ru-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpA5m-0000rl-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:46 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpA5j-0004jm-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 86016 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 21:55:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Ct3WrUvVtBXjhHYf/fcHGo5pgdrK1mfm1DJ7iAB48Pc7dv9enqvOZROTe+8fNMzSUX8vDq13FgimlTIJHVQ0CorPEfV6Q4YaL7+Fzlh71RpJZnTInZeddy/gGC0f2MNifI7kQKcFw7BLX++lI5B9WPF1psHNSZVe4u+JaKufe6E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.4.83 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 21:55:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cjXniIsVM1k7TebmAYYQBV76yQJA_aa1DlJVSoaU.b5phAOFR6hJU6pDOvVzjsTDIm8DPHZyFw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:53:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00e601c81ff6$59394340$53047ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:53:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: -604: (null data) DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear LF Group, I have sent the file to all those who have requested it so far - if it doesn't turn up with you very soon, I may have missed you, so please let me know. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b214733588dcd; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:42:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214733588dcd; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:42:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqCG0-0002jI-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqCFx-0002j9-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:33 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqCFt-0004Yk-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:32 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqCFp-0004MW-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:25 +0100 Received: from f054161088.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.161.88]:1127 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IqCFp-0000Lw-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:25 +0100 Message-ID: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:29 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Greetings all, Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field (the latter with radio direction finding). It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in the E-field spectrogram. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-c9473f5ed32a3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:36:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB21-c9473f5ed32a3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:36:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVKq-0005bC-27 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVKp-0005b2-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:15 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVKm-0003mZ-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:15 +0000 X-Trace: 647271480-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CABbtPkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.198 Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: "rsgb" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > Hello LF, > I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal > PSK31 > > What mode is it? > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a22472ce138d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:59:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22472ce138d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:59:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoQ5E-0007vs-Am for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoQ5D-0007vj-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:07 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoQ59-0004ph-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 74036 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 20:58:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lN0flW+vicigKk/MIgNhXzIilhNPDDX/liknxKNo/IlhJ5dqXnklIDuhAyS+eGl4YHTC/e0Q2batz/qD/PXQ/WRZ2ehcG0s9tCdqhmUXcEHN+i+XVT25p+EZhY7j/AADZ/nN3/zCnpRXPplS4MxB9E7pkn4oLDSMBT6X3qQVLok= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 20:58:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: S7I9HvUVM1n.n6YWQNj8RkIa4ztB69F4sQCbBYwIUctaMNB6g6BC30Jo2vYtmmmdXvogTm2TUg-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:57:20 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c81e5c$2006cc00$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <01a701c81e5a$f973e0b0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:57:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.134 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Gary, LF Group, Yes - quite consistent sigs now, I reckon I am copying your "quick brown fox" message with only a few errors on about 60% of the transmissions - It looks like a QSO would be practical at the moment, although the noise level seems lower than usual tonight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB44-1a3472f73eec4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB59-1a3472f73eec4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7xL-0006RB-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7xK-0006R2-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:54 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7xH-0001dP-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 90149 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 19:22:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vZaAffVqulcU15Mbk3UQr+mbOd268NukNb5hQGtwb6DmEMl4Z8bx4GK0p4fF5w2ea2h26pWqz2QC86QFVxDMouJobmRIAYnMa8BQ8SziND5A3nUCAS64zPBSENfDGzvmRm8LMtDhumjYR1zgQ2v9iCC1SPbeXqacEhEUh85AkVA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.50.9 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 19:22:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: eGjpj2UVM1kqY2FuBWjwtTB1KWPCxRKAifEIl6FuCMDGJHviL72cHaGiqiz0BIU4etMpEfFtkHCtWNIgZ7TSsNnvK4IK Message-ID: <008e01c81fe1$40c64f20$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:11:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim I would like to add it to your other articles on my web site if you are in agreement? That is when I get my FTP program sorted out again ! Cheers Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9b4472dc2b04a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:01:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b4472dc2b04a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:01:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof6Y-0007uI-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof6X-0007u8-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:29 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iof6U-0002km-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 33506 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 13:01:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=laHDmFAkZwkvCcwCL/K0SwZ6N+Cze19+MUGqf7d1V9hPgIsh7PJqpBY/YGnyucvkEi6K7bxlNLtCYphgpV7+rypVAT7xpI2eBna9++Lan3jRNe2pMoNfuuZ5K7AsH26wU1/UwDzhwaHRyTBS3gifpZZMDrIpkKo5OqwkKFeY+00= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.42.223 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 13:00:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1B_OHLMVM1lAgzUMW1tgwTGqzf7YMhaE2XmlV74GJlAUE9Eo4rsl0zoMuV.8iF2B8jldw_nBjA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.20/1108]); Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:59:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:59:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Mal, LF Group, > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference between DC input and RF output powers. In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, it might be another story... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a6e472b9646252; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e472b9646252; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io42y-0007MN-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io42y-0007ME-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io42u-0008G8-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC41EF89E7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id pWEm7iJ-zI9x for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi104.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.109]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id E43A81EF89E0 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:26:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 > dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a > step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this > allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more > restrictive EIRP, right? This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned about the difference. At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, considering most normal backyard LF antennas. Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a3b472b3e8810d; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:13:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG105-a3b472b3e8810d; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:13:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InyBr-0005Ic-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InyBq-0005IT-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:06 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InyBm-0005iR-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:06 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Nov 2007 15:11:56 -0000 Received: from p54853BDA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.59.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2007 16:11:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+XAXgMSziXHW8PdxE8Qm0+eujeO+5os2GzeE1p+z 7k7xsBycwmMH4X Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:11:54 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.019 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 1/2 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Despite the high static level copied WD2XES and WD2XGJ. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Brief copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz at 04:45 UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae447370b892d2; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:02:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae447370b892d2; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDNs-0001cp-TC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDNs-0001cg-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDNp-00039P-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 X-Trace: 633523683-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACeaNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 14:01:42 +0000 Message-ID: <01f501c8246b$6417ef90$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <002301c823dd$41f3cb20$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, I would like to convey my thanks to :- Steve - VE7SL for his encouraging comments And the following for reception reports :- John - M0JCD Mike - GW4HXO Chris - G3VXL Dave - G3YMC Graham - G0NBD Ha-Jo - DJ1ZB John - GM4SLV 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc > Gary ...an excellent use of limited backyard space. It should encourage > many > others to roll up their sleeves and get on the air. Your coils are true > works of art. Well done! > > 73 > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8954742f6123be; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:58:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954742f6123be; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:58:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuUXj-0001by-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuUXj-0001bp-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:39 +0000 Received: from smtpout0133.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.133] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuUXe-0000Zy-O9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:38 +0000 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003BE175 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:54 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,790d9bbe8dd12110,2e9184155c07529e,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1536:1559:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3869:3871:3876:5007,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m46-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.46]) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.424 Subject: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe someone has a push pull design. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9a54731763d1df; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54731763d1df; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:24:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgCk-0002sb-G4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgCj-0002sS-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:05 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgCg-00040B-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:05 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:56 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01c82117$79f84fa0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:23:56.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A14C300:01C82117] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0711.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C8211F.DB969200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C8211F.DB969200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj strong signal from 10:00-2:30z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a84472dd9a3250; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:39:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a84472dd9a3250; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:39:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iogd6-0000OI-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iogd6-0000O9-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iogd3-0004MM-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 11847 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 14:38:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KE8pCTRJWkgkq1nbo7vyX4kPfCfn2JQlJjCyKGNsTmI1gwzCQnnw88TwqF2yoMpoO7APC+1rOKAP5EeSf3EcZXdndYpsqXsLseqkED8fHmYhKBaSD+n8jRjT0x/P6UgIabF9EF9fs3Ftxz6Cn1n13Jlwl695U0Q0Uj685JyF7zU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.58.182 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 14:38:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: R.8sNlMVM1mcVDORnXoSWVJbZLZa6U.UHhApTzn3DIs6q3eoBE4ryily70jAHBWqB9N_v.F4lA-- Message-ID: <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:38:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Class E ( and I think also probably Class D but I am not sure about that one) will only give maximum efficiency at the design power loading. You cannot tune for max smoke (well you can if you have dissipation capability in hand but you will not get the 90% levels) My test 150watt 137kHz PA achieved 93% on the bench, but it has to be tuned with a scope for the correct drain waveforms. ( the stage is perversely tuned about 10% below the operating frequency) This is best described in Prof. Nathan Sokal's article in QST (or was it QEX).....Nat invented the mode in the 1970s. The lost efficiency is due to switching the FET on and off at slightly the wrong times. Best efficiency is also at the higher voltages. At 12 V the Ron*Idss product is a substantial portion of the 12 volts available. A higher voltage also increases the output impedance and leads to lower peak currents and less loss in the caps and inductor and the leads. It is a fiddly narrow band PA. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > Hi all > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > Just checked my Class-E IRF150 amp into load. > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency = 78% > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-88b472f4f9332d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b472f4f9332d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5X2-0003ce-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5X1-0003cV-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:35 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip5Wz-0000TH-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:35 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78407DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:14:03 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aa9472a75dd8a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:57:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa9472a75dd8a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:57:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inkq8-0002ms-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inkq8-0002mj-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inkq5-0007cG-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 73420 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 00:56:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pxHjr89pgzXwm7QzLrZEByis7Nu3ahDlfZFajqpICDhcD6ckQqn9m04TmnD4rUDgs+eKc7tCYyR312PhZJ2MrfrbzjdjIqqlaix2agdj8nPMIvUwmrC9vj9cqgNNlEeYfJgDskdEprsEm0snyU+k9Klib6Z86AN9r7x94Pd7jqY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.41.144 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 00:56:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .sfA8iYVM1mCCgL_j7xQ5PSlMZehghWN1M_IdoUuXluSiKpMGFvcjmy7v0Yq_zXVgJpSKKLXnQoNEcq6LfKKigWO56h.menhcLdtD1rTs_uZ5H2K Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.17/1103]); Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:54:42 +0000 Message-ID: <003101c81cea$f4243e00$90297ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> <1842410766.20071102005659@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:54:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Hartmut, LF Group, Thanks for the report on the PSK31 test sigs - shortly after, G3YKB came up on the frequency and we had a quite long QSO - We have previously worked in digital modes on 136k some time ago. 2 new modes in one day - can't be bad... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "James Moritz" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Jim, > > this received 23:48 UTC: > > {10}PSK31 TEST DE MŘBMU MŘBMU IO91u R 1ŘŘmW ERP > {10} > {10}RII 9W PEP Ii TO I1V L AT 1ŘM HIGH Iant 6ŘŘnl{10} > {10}QTH NR HATFIELD 25km NORTH OF i ONDaeN > {10} > {10}DE MŘBMO PSE W eee ee ee e {30} oLe{10}et > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-af04732ddba3e7; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:58:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af04732ddba3e7; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:58:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq48z-0000V2-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq48y-0000Ut-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq48t-0001RR-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CA63EA111 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:57:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4E3EA0F3 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:57:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4732DD96.9090208@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:57:42 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <110820070242.24716.473277B200077D4B0000608C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110820070242.24716.473277B200077D4B0000608C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.143 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite ( WD2XGJ and WD2XKO ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all , Last night , very good reception of WD2XKO (6636 km) its level reached the level of WD2XGJ (5536 km) towards 02:00 UTC ! The noise was still high the night spent, it should be noted that XKO was visible 2 hours after raising of sun . the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, > > Thank you for the kind words. I think that it is less than 10 watts E= RP, I will need to do some measurements to be more exact.=20 > > Your reports and captures are much appreciated! > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 > =20 >> Hello Warren, >> >> Very good ERP! >> If John and Jay have 1W ERP , your signal is on average to 10 dB with=20 >> the top , >> you have 10W ERP ! waahhooooooo ....... Your antenna is really very good. >> It does not seem that the conditions of propagation are not also good. >> When they are good I receive John and Jay like you this night. >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : >> =20 >>> Jean-Pierre, >>> =20 >>> Thank you for the nice report and captures!=20 >>> >>> WD2XGJ is using a new antenna - two loops in parallel made of coaxial c= able,=20 >>> =20 >> the 1st loop RG-11 and the other RG-214. (The old antenna was the single=20= RG-11=20 >> loop.) >> =20 >>> Dimensions are 1st loop (RG-11) 24m vertical x 44 m horizontal; 2nd loop= =20 >>> =20 >> RG-214 29m vertical x 46m horizontal. >> =20 >>> Transmitter Racal-Decca running 1.5kW dc input. >>> >>> -- >>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ 136-140kHz >>> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz >>> WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz >>> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz >>> >>> FN42hi >>> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >>> >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>> From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Hello Warren and all , >>>> >>>> Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! >>>> whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! >>>> Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good=20= to >>>> compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay >>>> what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was >>>> high +10dB. >>>> >>>> the captures of night are at : >>>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >>>> >>>> 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>>> Hello the list... >>>>> >>>>> Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. >>>>> Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: >>>>> http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >>>> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b854729be68a0; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:54:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b854729be68a0; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:54:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InYcW-0008EJ-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InYcV-0008EA-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:55 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InYcS-0006N2-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 758C9700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:53:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.33.140]) by mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 474887000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:53:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101115346292.474887000083@mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000501c81c7d$e2596be0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <005b01c81b4f$86ad4d90$0d00000a@AGB> <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> <4729B212.4070906@telia.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:53:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.103 Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer FOUND Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Johan, Thank's for the link .....I have just ordered some 5K pots from 'rapid' in the uk last night , ...... :-( ... as it looked like no one stocked , 4.7k, .. Many thank's thats a usefull link , looks like they have all the imperial sizes, which is usefull as all my racal equipment is pre-metric, and its bound to need more spares in the future hihi Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2 ... looking for !!! > Graham, > > 1. Go to http://www.elfa.se > 2. Click the Union Jack > 3. In the left side menu, navigate to Resistors->Potentiometers-> > Trimmers, single-turn->trimmer, type PTC-10->4.7k. > > This one has a Cermet track and 5x10mm footprint. > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > Graham skrev: >> So far no good , >> >> Im trying to locate qty 2 (better 4) cermet trimer pot's , top adj , >> value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame , pcb mount , pin space , 5 >> mm x 10 mm > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-da472bb620ad; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB38-da472bb620ad; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6A3-0008DU-7f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6A2-0008DL-Rz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io69z-0008Al-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3123EA0C1 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 00:42:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB23EA0BC for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 00:42:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472BB5F1.3020609@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:42:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.150 Subject: LF: T/A [137] vy good sig of WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LFers ! Now , good copy of WD2XGJ in JN06HT (23:00utc) 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8ad472a50139f; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:16:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad472a50139f; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:15:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IniJT-0001vm-5a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IniJS-0001vd-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:54 +0000 Received: from spikey-mike.demon.co.uk ([80.176.248.203] helo=mail.spikey-mike.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IniJP-0005Lx-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:54 +0000 Received: from ws1.spikey-mike.com ([10.0.0.1] helo=ws1) by mail.spikey-mike.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IniIw-0000hW-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:23 +0000 From: "Mike Hawkshaw" To: References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:14:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c81cd4$8e326150$0100000a@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> Thread-Index: Acgctmx/mQbOZ1uGTZ+jMuQr+Q6+HwAHRaiQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81CD4.8E326150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81CD4.8E326150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, John ,LF. Another screen grab, from Leeds this time at 22:00hrs. Very strong signal on an inverted L and FT990 radio. Decoded with IZ88BLY Hellschriber. Regards, Mike G7AQA. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 01 November 2007 18:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz De G3KEV > It's back again! I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between the "PAT"? 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, I have carefully listened to the recording of NDB's OZN-372 and ODR-372. The upper sideband of ODR-372 is at 372.380 kHz. The upper sideband of OZN-372 can be found on 372.405. Hence both stations are 25 Hz apart. When you switch in your 10 Hz filter, both stations can be heard, hence my guess is that your filter is a little wider than 10 Hz. Using an audio filter with a 12 Hz 3dB bandwidth, I can listen to either station, without knowing that the other is on. Regarding the noise issue, I believe that the higher noise level without your tuneable pre-amp is caused by intermodulation in the IC718. The selectivity of the pre-amp does decrease the level of the strong "out of band" LW/MW broadcast signals, protecting the IC718 front end from overload. The IMD may also be caused by your local NDB. I am also using a tuneable pre-amp in front of my selective level meters. However the signal from my mini-whip antenna is directly fed into my AR7030 receiver. The AR7030 can be used with an outboard narrow audio filter or with the 455 kHz output routed into a SPM-30 SLM (# 2) with a build-in narrow audio filter. In either case, sensitivity is on par with the SPM-30 (#1) plus tuneable pre-amp. To confirm if IMD is at stake, you could repeat the pre-amp experiment with your AR7030. I have used a R75 as well, which has a similar topology as the IC718. Most of the time I had to back off the RF-gain a bit for optimum results. Regarding your question on wide IF filters, 500 kHz is so quiet that I can easily copy a number of stations at the same time on the speaker of my AR7030 and 2.4 kHz SSB filter. When stations are weak, narrow audio filters do help a lot. However this askes for a different mind set to normal HF practice. On HF a 500 Hz CW filter is regarded as narrow and 250 Hz as very narrow. However in weak signal work 250 Hz is still very wide. Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt JO11tm Middelburg, Netherlands -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 517 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. 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Nothing in Moscow. Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > >Laurence > >Singapore > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon >> >> >>Hello Mike >> >> >> >> >> >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP >> >>RX: IC 756 PRO >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=DE= =D4=D5 =D3 =CD=CF=C2=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF=C7=CF =D5=D3=D4=D2=CF=CA=D3=D4=D7=C1: ht= tp://mail.ya.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a5347303dad3ae; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:11:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5347303dad3ae; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:10:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLOM-0007I7-2Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLOL-0007Hy-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:41 +0000 Received: from smtpout1458.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.157.158] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpLOI-0007Tb-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:41 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.87) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E00290383 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com><20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local><003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:09:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: -871: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : John Your beacon was peaking S5 at 1732z then qsa 0 for periods and up again, characteristic of insufficient power for the freq at that time. It is the same on HF with qrp stns, in and out of the noise, whereas qro stns are solid copy. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > Hello Jim & LF group, > > Thanks for the report. This is the sort of thing I wondered about. > > Up to 18:36 the 5W / 20mw ERP signal was readable but dropping another > 7dB and it was below the noise floor. I wonder how many dB margin there > is at 5W before the signal becomes unreadable? > > I'll try upping by 3dB at 19:45 to 2W. Then another 3dB or so at 20:00 > > > Thanks for listening all, > > > Regards, > > John > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 > "James Moritz" wrote: > > > Dear John, LF Group, > > > > Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level > > on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the > > spectrogram display. > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > > > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > > > Chris > > > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > > > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1bf472f35ac244; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf472f35ac244; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:24:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3oH-0001Oc-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3oH-0001OT-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3oC-0002ln-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3267C1C00084 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:24:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.0.166]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 030551C00081 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:24:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105152406125.030551C00081@mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001401c81fbf$e756a910$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:24:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.088 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : That will be intresting , Pls , add Tnx - G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-93f4741ee36b6; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:12:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4741ee36b6; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:12:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuCyG-0007bR-N8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuCyG-0007bI-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0000 Received: from xsmtp02.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.215]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuCyB-0004Of-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:51 +0000 Received: from [168.144.108.30] (helo=M2W030.mail2web.com) by xsmtp02.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuCy5-00032g-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 217.44.217.142 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:11:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.354 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: USB soundcards X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc.=20 Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 sound card Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or have I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applicatio= n hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB14-180472cc4efcf; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:59:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB24-180472cc4efcf; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:58:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOCn-0006HU-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOCm-0006HL-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:49 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOCj-0002dh-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:48 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:39 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c81e4b$85216d40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2007 18:58:39.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BB737C0:01C81E4B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C81E53.E6D07880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of xgj henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC43-1cf472dbb391a6; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:29:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoebD-0007Wp-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoebD-0007Wg-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from smtpout0157.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.157] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoebA-0002D9-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.26) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0026C60C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9ef4750948b35e; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4750948b35e; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEkB-0005nE-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEkA-0005n5-Js for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000 Received: from webmail18.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyEk7-0007Bs-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail18) by mail.yandex.ru id S8708114AbXK3Wxo convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.134] ([85.141.88.134]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000264359879 References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> 1650000000264359879 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1470411196463224@webmail18.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.201,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Graham! Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use? 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk): > HI All , > If anyone's about ,,, > Trying out 'new' Ae configuration , running a cw beacon on 503.2 , if yo= u=20 > can 'see' it > Reports welcome > Tnx > Graham > G0NBD / IO83LK=20 -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=CB= =D5=D2=D3 =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8 http://fotki.yandex.r= u/contest.xml?id=3D12 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9d7473f59b01dd; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:14:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7473f59b01dd; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItUyE-0005Qc-Eo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItUyD-0005QT-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:53 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItUyB-0005gO-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:53 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FCDA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:44 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: "rsgb" Message-ID: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal PSK31 What mode is it? -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9bc472cda80132; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:31:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc472cda80132; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:30:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdu-0007VD-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdu-0007Uu-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPdq-0000oZ-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 X-Trace: 621623760-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAHJ2LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbACQPQ Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 20:30:24 +0000 Message-ID: <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:30:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, LF, Sorry I stopped the narrow RTTY to have a look at the band, I will put it back on if you are seeing some copy. I couldn't be sure that 23 Hz was going to get very far but it looks like it may be a useful mode. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% > copy > at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it > running for a while. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> Graham, & All at LF, >> >> I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no > other >> decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift >> when > I >> see this message come through on the LF group mail. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> >> >> > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get >> > the >> > option , only 200/170 hz ? >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM >> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> > >> > >> >> LF, >> >> >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift > soon >> >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-898473783d7189; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:36:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-898473783d7189; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:36:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLOw-00038P-Mo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLOw-00038G-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLOq-000638-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 041901C00094 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:35:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from acer9412 (ARouen-252-1-98-243.w90-23.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.23.145.243]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 99F7B1C00093 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:35:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071111223522630.99F7B1C00093@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <47377A3D.1010506@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : WAOUH! 73: Jeff (F6CWN) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Hello LF , Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b6d4730cc7c1f2; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:20:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4730cc7c1f2; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:20:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUtb-0000p8-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUta-0000oz-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpUtX-0000ZL-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B2A5B408039 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FB408039 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F14495B8D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1194380344.4730cc387e558@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: -411: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1194380344c6625e6d1804a26e5d9d8e6462f79415" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1194380344c6625e6d1804a26e5d9d8e6462f79415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Condx on 500kHz is just getting better every day. Here is a recording of G3KEV made just a while ago, note how the AGC is trig= ged almost blanking the bandnoise. The audioclip is far too short (due to filesi= ze restrictions) to show how steady and QSB-free the conditions were at the tim= e. 579, 599 ...? 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(cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70093EA0CD for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:22:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:22:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a6d473a2d1ba3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:03:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com 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CP1h1Y0023tmwjw0000000; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:01:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qP1X2wN2RonVcn9AluIA:9 a=9NXrsdUf2pYsE36lg9osGeIiKg4A:4 a=sl9YfOjVxEgA:10 Message-ID: <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:01:59 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CFH . . . 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Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-8c7474b46a817d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA091-8c7474b46a817d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmIT-0002a7-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmIS-0002Zy-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwmIO-0005Ln-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HWkh1Y00K16LCl0050SV00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:10 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HaK41Y00U2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vaJtXVxTAAAA:8 a=cwdZvbt3Yic3LaGH8p0A:9 a=PoPWiUaShC29RcI3Q9LxUDQhpokA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=0dRpvnS4h04A:10 Message-ID: <19865134D37040D9BC43CA920D0A9717@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: 1650000000260747633 <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> In-Reply-To: <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:18:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.138 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Mike, Can you transmit past 22:30? Sunset here is 21:30 so that only allows one hour of darkness. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:41 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon I was transmitting QRSS60 from 1900 to 2230. I will do the same tonight. Thanks for listening. 73 de Mike ======== > Hi Mike! > Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. > What's time your was in the air? > > > 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): > > > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the > > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out > > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver > > and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system > > and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am > > happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > > Mike, G3XDV ========== > > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB > > ńÎÄĹËÓ.ćĎÔËÉ – íÎĎÇĎ ĆĎÔĎË ÎĹ ÂŮ×ÁĹÔ http://fotki.yandex.ru/ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ae64733846d7d; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:50:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae64733846d7d; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:49:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqFEq-0004AJ-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqFEp-0004A7-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:35 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqFEe-0006k7-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:35 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071108214750m15009tqkfe>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:47:50 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:47:49 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: jpm.f1afj@online.fr (Jean-Pierre Merre), "henny van elst" Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:47:49 +0000 Message-Id: <110820072147.17808.47338404000BC74C0000459022064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0811.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Jean-Pierre and Henny! The sunset here only 15 minutes ago. Good conditions tonight! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-92b4747fc4b59; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:26:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b4747fc4b59; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:26:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvsDD-0005d5-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvsDC-0005cw-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvsD9-00057J-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C633EA0CC for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3583EA0E5 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4747FC3D.1010104@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> <4747FAAC.5060009@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747FAAC.5060009@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSS ! ! ! Not to read it is an error of my share sorry 73 f1afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Bonjour Cricri et tous , > Michel est au Radio Club =E0 l'heure qu'il est , si tu peux recevoir le=20 > 137.7 en direct , veilles cette fr=E9quence dans l'apr=E8s midi , il=20 > serait bon que tu puisses recevoir son signal dans le grand sud ! le =20 > stream audio via internet diffus=E9 par Michel est =E9quivalent au signal=20 > qui sort de ton SDR et qui rentre dans la carte son , c'est pour ceux=20 > qui n'ont pas de r=E9cepteur sur 137 kHz . Pour ma part je mettrai un=20 > grabber d=E9di=E9 =E0 cette manippe cet apr=E8s midi jusqu'a 22:00 utc ( a= pr=E8s=20 > je bascule sur le trafic transat ! ) > il sera dispo =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/GrabberWK.htm > 73 qro J-P afj > > Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : >> Hello LF , >> >> Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO >> >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >> >> The files of captures of night are with this URL : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht >> > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-9024731c93221e; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:18:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-9024731c93221e; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:18:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpljE-0005Fo-R4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpljE-0005Ff-GA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpljA-0006rW-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4C63EA0EA for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:17:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0D53EA0B2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:17:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C8FF.2010402@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:17:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John , John Andrews a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, > > Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. Ok TNX ! > I was only on the air for about 30 minutes last night. I visualize your signals on the grabber of W3EEE ( Thank you has Steve=20 Dove, that helps us well here ) > Warren's signal appears to have increased in the last week. Ohhhhhhh yessssssss !!!!!!!!!! > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8e247378a47263; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e247378a47263; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLpt-0003cn-C3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLps-0003ce-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:24 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLpn-0006FJ-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:24 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111230312m1300bpuqie>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:12 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:10 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:10 +0000 Message-Id: <111120072303.3904.47378A2E000A163900000F4022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.420,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Merci ! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > WAOUH is a cry of admiration ! your signal is very extremely still this > evening , Warren > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > > Jeff, > > > > What means WAOUH ? > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "F6CWN" > > > >> WAOUH! > >> > >> 73: Jeff (F6CWN) > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM > >> Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! > >> > >> > >> Hello LF , > >> > >> Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) > >> > >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > >> > >> > >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > >> > >> -- > >> Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > >> Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-fd474a39cce9; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC13-fd474a39cce9; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwUOj-0000bJ-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwUOi-0000bA-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:36 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwUOe-0001Tp-Ga for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:36 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HC7P1Y00C1HzFnQ050E900; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:25 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HFCL1Y0032Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:25 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=6JUX2OBgwRY6FDbkGFAA:9 a=t29tUQlYfARVNA9MorlLCFS41t4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <7C336B3219C74EC387E787C1CFE85911@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:12:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: 137kHz WD2XGJ Saves the Planet Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello the list, Poor band conditions tonight. WD2XGJ will save the planet and go QRT. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-104472a469d3db; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:35:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104472a469d3db; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:35:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inhh1-0001fX-Tw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inhgz-0001fO-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.140] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inhgw-00089w-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:09 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.204.9) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00247D99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ccf$0e42b580$09ccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:34:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 late news Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Beacon PAT on 499/500 khz has been reported on bearing 335 degrees from F6NCI qth. UR2IL has been reportred on 501.3 khz but not heard at my qth so far. News ends de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a23474eafa52a7; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a23474eafa52a7; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxiR6-0001iy-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxiR6-0001ip-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxiR2-0000Rr-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.146]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 23B0D4914BF for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.146]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id FaW53dyaPB8KJYz5 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:23:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000601c83283$0c6f8980$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:26:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Kevin, Mike, LFers, Thanks for the replies/suggestions regarding my antenna question. If I was to make use of the entire fence-line, I could have a very- very long wire/beverage of about 3/4 of a mile or so. I'll try a short version for starters to see what happens. It's orientation will be good for Europe and the N E of the US and Canada. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-de472df589ba; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:38:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB42-de472df589ba; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:38:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoiU5-0001Sg-GI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoiU5-0001SX-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoiU2-0006NQ-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649363EA0EE for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:37:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2433EA0AC for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:37:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472DF54D.6040204@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:37:33 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The next night I will record on the =93single turn loop=94 , because I dismounted the K9AY to make cut the hedges tomorrow! 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8ae473b778717; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:33:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae473b778717; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:32:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQlz-0005GZ-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQlz-0005GQ-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsQlw-0006av-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d29.18025815 (52462) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD091-ccee473b774327d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> In-Reply-To: <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:31:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re2: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unfortunately the QRM returned tonight 19:00 UT:-(=20 Thanks to Hartmut for the feedback. Yes, the problem may well be related to=20= the new DRM / Simulcast transmitter in Donebach.=20 73 de Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from Donebach? The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nighttime background noise here. They=20= went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for good... 73 Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation b= oth indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else no= ticed this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unfortunately t= he QRM=20 returned tonight 19:00 UT:-( 
 
Thanks to Hartmut for the feedback.&nb= sp;Yes,=20 the problem may well be related to the new DRM / Simulcast transmi= tter=20 in Donebach.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007=20= 9:07=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

The sidebands were up to 35 dB over night= time=20 background noise here. They went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for=20 good...
 
73 Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007=20= 11:54=20 PM
Subject: LF: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2=20 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk=20 modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the=20 source. Anyone else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b9b473115f02d; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD095-b9b473115f02d; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZnL-0001pV-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZnK-0001pM-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:26 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZnH-0002lC-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:26 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cc3.1b5d3af8 (42805) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:29 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.575,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194399148" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194399148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol.com writes: Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to no more than 5 or 6 centimetres..... and that's aside from any perverse observations:-) -------------------------------1194399148 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol= .com=20 writes:
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length=20 to no more than 5 or 6 centimetres.....
and that's aside from any perverse=20 observations:-)
 -------------------------------1194399148-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-961475089ee1bb; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:08:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF057-961475089ee1bb; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:08:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyE2C-0005Ow-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyE2B-0005On-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:31 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyE28-0006zT-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D9111C00085 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:08:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.38.194]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7476E1C00084 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:08:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071130220822477.7476E1C00084@mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000a01c8339d$91853f50$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079 Subject: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n HI All , If anyone's about ,,, Trying out 'new' Ae configuration , running a cw beacon on 503.2 , if you can 'see' it Reports welcome Tnx Graham G0NBD / IO83LK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9da473b4d1817b; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da473b4d1817b; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:31:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNvu-0004ih-6w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNvt-0004iY-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsNvq-0005PZ-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26363EA0AB for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2DE3EA16E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:28 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, The grabber will be ON , this evening to see at which time the signals of Warren will be visible . You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8a1474b47192e5; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1474b47192e5; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:22:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmLF-0002da-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmLE-0002dR-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:13 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwmLB-0000U3-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HZcf1Y0090ldTLk0504b00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:02 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HaMx1Y00P2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:02 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=I6xqrMMW6yGW__tPWVMA:9 a=Zsl5ZV9mRrCJpObXfPLl5vAxAlEA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=r9ify9bRtofbzNMNx7cA:9 a=sHNAeQHc-5-b-UNDMoEA:7 a=-zg2mgCqAxdRbc7SJsDDSMgkS1UA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:21:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ - Off Tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello the list, No transmission from WD2XGJ tonight, bad weather (rain) seems to be affe= cting the antenna loading. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list,
 
    No transmission from WD2= XGJ=20 tonight, bad weather (rain) seems to be affecting the antenna=20 loading.
 
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b984738812b303; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:37:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984738812b303; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:37:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrcFr-0005RR-Jw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrcFr-0005RI-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrcFo-0005wc-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACGZAsH064956 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:35:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <473880BE.4040403@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:35:10 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071111-1, 11/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wd2xsh17 1211.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) henny van elst wrote: > *capture wd2xsh/17* > *time 3:00z* > *antenne dx-10* > *rec:rohde &schwarz* > *henny pa3cpm* > *73s Henny Dat gaat echt wel een heel stuk beter zo ;-) Ko --- avast! 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Virus Database (VPS): 071111-1, 11/11/2007 Tested on: 11/12/2007 5:35:15 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006ee-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006eV-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io2Zp-0007AH-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB969DA4D9 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102195242.1f285887@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz NoV Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks John! everyone assumed it was okay but it's good to hear it officially. Now we can re-assure the stations in other countries that they can work us cross-band. ....on with the good work! Cheers, John GM4SLV On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:27:07 -0000 "John W Gould" wrote: > Following some excellent x-band QSOs by some NoV holders I've been > asked if clarification can be given as to whether this is appropriate > given the a particular clause in the 500kHz NoV's Terms & > Conditions. This issue is that clause h) in the NoV states that > "This Notice of Variation is restricted for the Research for which it > is issued and does not apply to routine messages and signals for > which the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence > shall apply." > > I've checked with Ofcom and the position is that a standard Special > Research Permit NoV was used for issuing 500kHz NoVs and that > therefore contained the clause h) wording. This clause is really > meant to cover conditions that might apply when, for example, an SRP > NoV is issued to allow a power level of 32dBW for EME experiments on > a stated band/frequency. Such an NoV is issued for that purpose and > does not give blanket permission to run that power level on any other > bands, when "... the existing terms conditions and limitations of the > Licence shall apply" Thus, for 500kHz operating the T&Cs of the SRP > NoV must be observed for that band only and it does not "vary" the > T&Cs of Section 2 of the licence which allows operation on bands > stated in the appropriate schedule. > > If my explanation above isn't entirely clear, the simple answer is > that doing x-band QSOs is OK as long as they are in someway related > to the "research" on which you sought your NoV. Thus, for 99.9% of > cases it is unlikely to be an issue. I trust that our overseas > friends are also content with that this little piece of British > bureaucracy makes their involvement "legal" depending of course on > the small print in their licence! > > 73 John, G3WKL > RSGB HF Manager > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a884739bc731f3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a884739bc731f3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrxG0-0000CQ-UJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrxG0-0000CH-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxFw-0005nV-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 33007 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:00:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Cf1qyW2fokOSCcKp+Tm/2RRComgdmhaX35WB5ssTzxGUBi3n3Fik7o7EH9v4P7jV2eBVVPpzqXNYLhXQO5MD9TMbJFGRxvHL3xqkjrjQtJBu/pREO2889WZsX9sYZ/aGepUWNdIaOsPGIOphX07TMVlZhEnmXRIeW2qcWIyYFxg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.58.42 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 15:00:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hqTdSgEVM1m6uElnzFpPjbq9KEt7GjxsR7re3NrTze3S5spGYsAjouDGT0nUeC6w6PrG6rDlQbH6BA2Rsh9sr5fbxel95olVWWL3Tf4UK3pLID6A Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.30/1127]); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:58:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c82605$b69e9fc0$2a3a8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:58:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.306 Subject: LF: EER transverter pdf file Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear LF Group, W4DEX has kindly added the EER transverter article to his web pages at: http://www.w4dex.com/projects/transverter_linear_lf_mf_by_m0bmu.htm This is an updated version, containing some added photographs of the prototype, and a couple of minor corrections to missing component values on the schematic (thanks, Uwe). I have also uploaded this file to the Google "UK500kHz group" site initiated by G0NBD at http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/EER_Transverter_v2.pdf BTW, Google seems to have a problem finding this group; it is OK if you search for "UK500khz group", say, but if you just put "500kHz Group" it finds everything but what you are looking for, including the "new 500 kHz network" Google group, which seems to be mainly due to F6DGU... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-6d34735d6d61bf; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:06:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB65-6d34735d6d61bf; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:05:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqspn-0004mT-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqspm-0004mK-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqspj-0005uk-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0499A270B3F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF686270B3F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72A3495B8B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1194710712.4735d6b8df9ef@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OH1LSQ finally QRV for X-band 600/40m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Hello! I managed to sling a sloping vertical for 40m between the house and a tree.=20= The match is less than perfect but I already managed to work Mal, G3KEV with it=20= so something useful is radiated. I can not work 600/80m atm, hope this won't be a problem. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD / Vaasa From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB11-e4472a67e9e2; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:57:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB48-e4472a67e9e2; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:57:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InjuX-0002PD-Kg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InjuX-0002P4-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InjuT-0001Rm-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2007 23:57:07 -0000 Received: from p548556CC.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.86.204] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2007 00:57:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19F7iAODoRFTokvq8sBV1EkbvQ2OBhgaN5aJS0HVi Qkm7qTfJXtRxoP Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:56:59 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1842410766.20071102005659@gmx.de> To: James Moritz In-Reply-To: <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, this received 23:48 UTC: {10}PSK31 TEST DE MŘBMU MŘBMU IO91u R 1ŘŘmW ERP {10} {10}RII 9W PEP Ii TO I1V L AT 1ŘM HIGH Iant 6ŘŘnl{10} {10}QTH NR HATFIELD 25km NORTH OF i ONDaeN {10} {10}DE MŘBMO PSE W eee ee ee e {30} oLe{10}et 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b814746fd585f; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:18:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD063-b814746fd585f; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:18:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbDG-0004Du-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbDF-0004Dl-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvbDC-0002Si-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lANGFMXf006242 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:22 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lANGFKSj010160 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:20 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lANGFKmn010159; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:20 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:19 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.396 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you J-P. Alan says conditions will be poor, but could improve soon. 73 Joe On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-97f4739d8713b7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:01:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f4739d8713b7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz8J-0000sT-Uz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz8J-0000sK-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from mxoutlb02.versatel.de ([89.246.255.232]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irz8E-0006Sr-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxoutlb02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lADH0sMc031226 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.102.232]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lADH0sNK010553 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Received: from 89.246.63.82 ([89.246.63.82]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20071113180054.0shbl1xyqwowwkcc@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.120,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von John RABSON : > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or EIRP? > > What are the limits in the US, Sweden and Germany please (and > anywhere else that has an amateur/experimenter allocation in this > part of the spectrum)? And are they transmitter output, ERP or EIRP? > > 73 > John F5VLF > > Hi John, my permit says 9W (ERP). real pwr is 3,5W (ERP). regards Uwe/di2be/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aac474f13666f; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:31:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac474f13666f; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:30:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixp57-0002RQ-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixp56-0002RH-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:52 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixp51-0003zU-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jayy1Y0041HzFnQ050di00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:36 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JjVX1Y0082Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=y_lztgNimQoA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=SfiH4ZFlS2vuBbaeznUA:9 a=QH3lx2mXjvlju8n-lI06d9k2J40A:4 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 Message-ID: <611E9F035D954AAD915F1C658FE76756@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> In-Reply-To: <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:29:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: M0BMU Transverter on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? For those that haven't received a copy Jim Moritz's excellent transverter w/ Class D PA and EER is on the Lowfer Forum: http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=451#post451 73 Warren K2ORS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a32473bd6c41ff; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:19:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a32473bd6c41ff; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsX6w-0006AK-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsX6v-0006AB-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:53 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsX6s-00047u-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:53 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W49 ([207.46.11.212]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:17:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:17:22 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2007 05:17:23.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDA7F670:01C82746] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_" Subject: LF: NDB nr 500KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a few more NDB's around here on 505KHz+ mostly unlisted....I believe= they come and go dependant on what games our friends are playing by way of=20= "exercises" (whoosh there goes another UNID Black Chinook chased by a Blacke= r Blackhawk...) =20 =20 =20 Laurence 9V1 LF Singapore, Sambawang Thunderstorms 34C _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotmai= lnews=3D --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a few more NDB's around here on 505KHz+ mostly unlisted....I believe= they come and go dependant on what games our friends are playing by way of=20= "exercises" (whoosh there goes another UNID Black Chinook chased by a B= lacker Blackhawk...)
 
 
 
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Try=20= now! =3D --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a7b4738b7703e6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:28:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b4738b7703e6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:28:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irfrg-00061D-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:26:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irfrf-000614-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:26:35 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irfrb-0001qE-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: gd signal of GI4DPE in jn49ax X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) R29vZCBldmVuaW5nIEZpbmJhciwNCmFmdGVyIEkgc2F3IHNvIG1hbnkgZ29vZCByZXBvcnRz IGhlcmUgYWJvdXQgWC1CYW5kIFFTTydzIDgwbS81MDBraHosIEkgbW9uaXRvcmVkIHRoaXMg ZXZlbmluZyB5b3VyIGZyZXF1ZW5jeSBhcm91bmQgNTAxLjRLaHphLiBJIHdhcyBpbXByZXNz ZWQgdG8gaGVhciB5b3VyIENRIDUzOSBpbiBKTjQ5YXguIEkgZm9sbG93ZWQgYWxzbyB5b3Vy IFFTTyB3aXRoIFBhdWwgT0gxTFNRLg0KSSB3aWxsIHNldHVwIG15IHN0YXRpb24gYXNhcC4g dG8gcnggb24gNTAwa2h6IGFuZCB0eCBvbiA4MG0uIEhvcGUgaXQgd29ya3MgdG8gZG8gbXkg MXN0IFgtQmFuZC4NCg0KdnkgNzMNCk1hcmNvDQpERDdQQw0KUng6IFlhZXN1IEZULTg1NyBh bmQgTWluaVdoaXANCg0KIA0KY2F0cy1vcw0KQ2l0aWdyb3VwIEdsb2JhbCBNYXJrZXRzIERl dXRzY2hsYW5kIEFHICYgQ28uIEtHYUENCkRpcmVjdDogKzQ5IDY5IDEzNjYgMTIxNA0KTW9i aWxlOiArNDkgMTcxIDg2NiAxMjE0DQpGYXg6ICs0OSA2OSAxMzY2IDE1MzYNCm1haWx0bzpt YXJjby5zY2hvbHpAY2l0aWdyb3VwLmNvbSANCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8a1472ec4ca8d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:23:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472ec4ca8d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:22:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IowHT-0002nY-Lc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IowHT-0002nP-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IowHQ-0008Rz-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1244DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:21:26 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105072126.3466fc76@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] Dots_G4WGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 00:57:37 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo Gary! > Really, you are right, those dots are on the John=C2=B4s grabber! There ar= e > something new on the band. Thanks for your notice. >=20 > Hi Lubos & LF, The "dots" I see, hear are around 502.6 and 505.6 with occasionally a much weaker set at mid way between. I don't know what produces the signal. Occasionally there is a long dash of a few seconds and more usually a random sequence of short "dots". Keep an eye on the grabber during the day, when the QRN is low and you'll see how they vary.=20 Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8f64741ffc83c0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:27:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64741ffc83c0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:27:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE9N-0007pk-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE9N-0007pb-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:25 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuE9J-0004mA-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:24 +0000 X-Trace: 648107402-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAK6OQUdYanJG/2dsb2JhbACQYg Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 21:27:14 +0000 Message-ID: <010001c82af2$f3ed0c30$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071119-0, 19/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.192 Subject: LF: Re: USB soundcards Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Peter, I have 2 sound cards in my desktop PC, one is the motherboard sound card a Realtek AC97 basic features & a PCI sound card cheap & basic C-Media 8738. Both these cards work very well for use with the mentioned software. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: LF: USB soundcards Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc. Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 sound card Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or have I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium MicrosoftŽ WindowsŽ and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB42-ed472f7e1195; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:40:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB57-ed472f7e1195; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:33:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8dE-0007X7-VQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8dE-0007Wy-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from smtp25.orange.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8dB-0003ZJ-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2544.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE9431C0008F for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from akhenaton (ALagny-151-1-94-4.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.203.208.4]) by mwinf2544.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 63B561C00081 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105203237408.63B561C00081@mwinf2544.orange.fr Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:36 +0100 From: Michel F5WK X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Home Organization: mTerrier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> To: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV In-Reply-To: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) > for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really > heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can > normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB John, I can barely copy your signal by ear right now at 20:30 UTC in a 250 Hz bandwidth. 73 / Michel f5wk JN18HP -- The Bat 3.99.29 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b0d4747f35532a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d4747f35532a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvrcG-0005Ka-Lu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:48:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvrcG-0005KR-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000201c83119$08222ce0$3de4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: 1650000000261689569 <236001196124904@webmail12.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:42:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Roman. Pse listen out on 500 khz. I am usually around 502.5 khz and there is also acty around 501.3 khz from GI4DPE. We both work normal CW. 73 De Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: ". Roman" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:55 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Nothing in Moscow. Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > >Laurence > >Singapore > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon >> >> >>Hello Mike >> >> >> >> >> >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP >> >>RX: IC 756 PRO >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=DE= =D4=D5 =D3 =CD=CF=C2=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF=C7=CF =D5=D3=D4=D2=CF=CA=D3=D4=D7=C1: ht= tp://mail.ya.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-aff4735ca10179; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:11:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC013-aff4735ca10179; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqryU-0004Yr-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqryU-0004Yi-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqryP-0005Wn-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071110151005m14004kc9se>; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:04 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:04 +0000 Message-Id: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Grabber 137 kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the grabber! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello friends of the L F, > > The “Grabber” functioned well this night, there was a problem on the > back sight of the captures. I did the “housework” in the files of the > grabber, all is correct now! I think that will have to be best the next > night. > > You can see it by this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of the captures of the night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > Are available the winter 2006/2007 > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a0a4732258d1b2; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4732258d1b2; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:52:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iprsr-0006fT-3S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iprsq-0006fK-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:20 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iprsn-0003aO-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 78928 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 20:12:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=6nXp1CG0jgrlgPfKZJ2WFnUPkyGUwSDJOJpfS3ZftxAFOJNAWog4Z7Fl43TISdALFSlBQDh4JaGqBeh5tgXEKAdpJekaB+2E0evzaOPhtsL93Z4Kdo1NJyLJ8BFkhvKYKXV7bb4XQMzFfv1Mti+ghDSnZWlsa6UaZ6Vw2AV07uk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.202.69 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2007 20:12:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OKZxDTAVM1lAjD9BtIZqG2TvS9y6JBtZedaKVA071JDmDATFn.UkxnlxIfHOjmnEXH8BZdnRxg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:12:47 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <000701c820a9$69baa2a0$35e4fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236 Subject: LF: test... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : test - pls disregard From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-ca4746ad44279; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB22-ca4746ad44279; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVqT-0003fL-9V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVqS-0003fC-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvVqN-0002jD-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B733A3EA0FA for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7419F3EA11C for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4746AC61.4090404@online.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , last night Icopy WD2XGJ ( good ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d64731114b6f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB68-6d64731114b6f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:13:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZTf-0001ck-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZTe-0001cb-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:06 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZTZ-0004KH-K7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:06 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter04.comcast.net ([204.127.197.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071107011222m1300bq249e>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:12:32 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter04.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:21 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:21 +0000 Message-Id: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list... Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: k2ors@comcast.net > > Hello Nicolas, > > Thank you very much for the report and capture! > > Your Miniwhip is working very well. > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: F4DTL@aol.com > > Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna > > (miniwhip PA0RDT) > > No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. > > > > Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > > > > RX: IC 7400 > > Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a0a472e18d6ae; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a472e18d6ae; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokq9-0003MS-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokq8-0003MJ-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:56 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokq6-0005CS-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA604E4BDC for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YJPcHFk9Gqgu for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CFE4E4B07 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:43 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Dots again Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C81F1E.80CF7A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal is on the band again. Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this=20= morning. This signal is on the band again.

Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47= sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz.

Does anybody listen or see this dots as well?=

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

 

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<000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:35:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C81E72.31858C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C81E72.31858C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Gary, LF Group, The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your test, up to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The upper trace is G0MRF's beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. As far as readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were printing out with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor on the spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with similar signal levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been comfortable audible CW copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are quite variable - For a short QSO of a couple of minutes, this wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would require standing by waiting for the signal level to build up after a fade - also rather like CW. I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be tuned quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and I found it was neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards G0MRF's CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal carriers was only 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth of the narrow RTTY looks quite similar to PSK31. 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WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > strong signal from 10:00-2:30z > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-abe47317a4b2b9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:42:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB044-abe47317a4b2b9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:41:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgTi-0003Cs-2r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:41:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgTh-0003Cj-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:41:37 +0000 Received: from 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Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with 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2007 13:18:37 +0000 Message-ID: <4742DE8E.5060603@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:18:06 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) When I heard John's recording of my signals with a 10Hz AF filter I was most impressed. My own view is how various bits of hardware work depends a lot on the listening environment. On 73kHz the receiver performance improved with insertion of front end attenuation or at the very least a reduction in RF gain. The front end attenuation was particularly important for those operators who were lucky enough to have a go at operating from one of the Decca stations before they were decommissioned. The signal from the large antenna completely overwhelmed the receiver front end. In this case a sharp CW filter was helpful provided the QRM level was not too high. At this QTH 136kHz was badly affected by the sidebands from the the Loran station at Lessay. CW operation with a sharp filter was not practical because of the effect the Loran pulses had on the filter. A wide filter was much better. This was the main reason most of my 136kHz operation was on QRS. On 500kHz the antenna has a gain of -20dBi. Nevertheless I usually have the 20dB attenuator switched most of the time and this is only switched out when when the band is very quiet. I use a FT-990 for receive which has the IF digital filters and I will try to use these more effectively. Peter, G3LDO > Have a listen to the recording here :-- > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/OZN_372_RX_test.mp3 > > In this test I tuned to 372.420kHZ, the upper sideband ident of the > OZN-372 NDB in Greenland. At 09:30z it's not too strong here. In fact > it was totally inaudible. The noise level was too high to make it > worthwhile adding more gain in front of the RX....or so I thought. > > The recording starts with the RX in CW mode, 2.3kHz IF filter and no > internal or external pre-amp. Pretty noisy and no sign of either OZN or > the more local ODR. > > I switch in my 10Hz AF filter. The wideband crud disappears, but still > no OZN. > > Next comes the LF353 op-amp tuneable pre-amp. This shouldn't help, as > all I'll do is amplify the noise, right...? > > Bingo! > > Both OZN and, a few Hz lower, ODR. > > I have a local NDB (TL-376) and the keying harmonics (multiples of > 400Hz) can be just be heard (wearing 'phones) - a final switch if the > IC-718 internal 250Hz inrad filter cleans it up. > > My queston now is.... > > Would more people benefit from similar, simple, additions to their > 500kHz stations? > > Many people are still trying to receive on wide IF filters and > straightforward amateur rigs (the IC-718 is one such rig). My > experience of being able to hear people perfectly Q5 yet be inaudible > to them might be in part due to the extra hardware, not purely my > superior location? > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC31-1cb47297bd5140; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:10:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC39-1cb47297bd5140; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:10:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InUBl-0007NF-PD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InUBl-0007N6-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: from smtp112.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.245]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InUBk-0004yv-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 210 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:09:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rZgef6WcuZnfvmprq0uwsrY+KTMXqOiqkX1UqfQDAoOHbnk3c0bJwLgDbHU64s+Bysrhx0uTcZ0hkv52HgdzW0305ANstCU9wGEg5dL/VWWHl8HVfmoMlNGiCbKjrngOv96uE8MdlMJDChWHwDgZP7WFbrj2MwySfxtau02ki90= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp112.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:09:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: phLTE7IVM1k9h7k1m3nGu5njmSgVY6DWe4hnMVWeJeBt0LyvQYpjNOieko9UZG6KBnlhlvW0JMurrv83XBlWaf.WcWO_KhH_8epbTBSzGng0hfD68m4- Message-ID: <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:09:46 -0500 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave, How many & what length radials do you have under that vertical? Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 Dave Sergeant wrote: ... > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move!... > 73 Dave G3YMC > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a114744fd66f2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a114744fd66f2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:54:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv38E-0007pc-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv38E-0007pT-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.224]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv386-0000pi-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W10 ([207.46.11.173]) by bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:53:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:53:22 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 03:53:23.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A821810:01C82CBB] X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.174,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_" Subject: RE: LF: QSW/QTV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then suggest yo= u peruse.... =20 =20 =20 http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf Laurence KL1 X QTU 24 =20 =20 =20 > > Hi all> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF f= reqs at> times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what=20= MF QRG I> am transmitting on> I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QR= G and monitor my TX freq to> avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep t= he QRM out on all bands, the> normal procedure. When anyone calls please try= and be on my exact QRG> otherwise I might not hear you.> > 73 De Mal/G3KEV>= >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_11200= 7=3D --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then sugge= st you peruse....
 
 
 
http://www.q= sl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf

Laurence KL1 X
QTU 24
 

 
 
>
> Hi all
> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I=20= will use the HF freqs at
> times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appro= priate to indicate what MF QRG I
> am transmitting on
> I will u= se QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX freq to
> av= oid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all bands, the> normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG<= BR>> otherwise I might not hear you.
>
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
= >
>


Connect and share in new ways with Windows= Live. Connect now! =3D --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8d64741708f378; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:16:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA108-8d64741708f378; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:16:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4by-0006dO-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4bx-0006dF-Dx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:17 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu4bu-0003xm-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:17 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:09 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c82a9d$92f41180$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <001b01c82a9b$f410d360$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 11:16:09.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[95DE3920:01C82A9D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n TU JAY henny pa3cpm 73s > > WE2XGR/2 was on 506.5 kHz running 12 wpm cw ID with gaps (10-12 seconds) > between IDs. QRT at 0430Z. > Thanks for the report! > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "henny van elst" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:44 AM > Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg > > > capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 > but who? > henny pa3cpm > jo22mb > 73s > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-8c547363ee3254; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:29:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c547363ee3254; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:29:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqzlK-0006Up-R6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqzlK-0006Ug-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81] helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqzlH-0000QC-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IqzlG-0001V2-02; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:29:10 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (ZB4sn6ZQghAQewbvioYpxkkYbn7-KFOfG7HIn0-Ay5BlWs5CKOn2lNAYcYj4NYag-R@[217.95.86.53]) by fwd28.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IqzlG-0kziDo0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:29:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 10 Nov 2007 23:28 GMT Message-ID: <1IqzlG-0kziDo0@fwd28.t-online.de> X-ID: ZB4sn6ZQghAQewbvioYpxkkYbn7-KFOfG7HIn0-Ay5BlWs5CKOn2lNAYcYj4NYag-R X-TOI-MSGID: 3882c605-8d97-480d-9fa3-0558818388a0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: GI3PDN and G4WGT auddible in JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, tonight 10. November 2007 around 23.10 to 23.20 UTC heard GI3PDN beaconing on 501,6 kHz and test de g4wgt io83qp on 503,7 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, both stns with qsb. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a25473ef14e1b1; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:49:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a25473ef14e1b1; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:49:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItO1y-0004oS-U2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItO1y-0004oJ-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItO1u-0001wH-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 15109 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 13:48:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=x6x6TTN/gGmo5+DNfpTiTJ78YMa6Xlk2tqIy6ZGPO/giP5E/x0dzV05jTyE2olTKvZUgh2Fmfag7fm1h7UgMcK49t6EZVAMeHHlccj/Wr62r8ZPv41atOzFlcKF/Ber8j7uGyaXArww2cymLHw5Tg2juBw/2acf3IGoNFrg5t2U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.39.248 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 13:48:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: luBAgXoVM1kO2W1e0H_SLtwf_oaj0pcBWoUpFxcWCkHbiF4puxA7Pax7a3L14vs6Ou8JsSuDOw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.16.0/1135]); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:46:20 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c82920$3be7d300$f8277ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:46:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.120 Subject: LF: Re: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear John, LF Group, If the RX noise level is the same as the antenna noise level, then when you connect the antenna to the receiver, the noise at the RX output should increase by 3dB - this would probably satisfy the criterion of being able to hear the noise increase when the antenna is connected, but would give 3dB worse signal-to-noise ratio than an RX with a very low noise figure. I guess this would be quite significant with a weak signal at the threshold of audibility, so really you want quite a big increase in noise level when you connect the antenna - for example, if the RX noise is 10dB below the antenna noise, the noise level would increase by about 10.4dB with the antenna connected, and the degradation in overall SNR would only be about 0.4dB. What is meant by noise is another thing - even quite a deaf receiver can hear the static crackles on either LF or MF, but what really is the limiting factor to detecting a signal is the background "hiss" between the cracks and pops, which can be at a much lower level. Also, at my QTH, even on a quiet-sounding band a considerable part of the noise can be mains-related - this can be quite hard to distinguish from the band noise, but is more obvious if you look at the RX output with an oscilloscope set to "line" triggering. So I would certainly agree that a preamp could often be useful in improving SNR - I think the same is probably true for many rigs on the higher HF bands, if you are using modest dipole-like antennas. Also, the receiving antenna arrangements are obviously very important, since the local noise levels can easily be much higher than the band noise. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA081-a83472f71fe4f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:42:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a83472f71fe4f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7pE-0006L1-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7pD-0006Ks-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:31 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7pB-0002oB-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:31 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E53DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:41:02 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Jim & LF group, Thanks for the report. This is the sort of thing I wondered about. Up to 18:36 the 5W / 20mw ERP signal was readable but dropping another 7dB and it was below the noise floor. I wonder how many dB margin there is at 5W before the signal becomes unreadable? I'll try upping by 3dB at 19:45 to 2W. Then another 3dB or so at 20:00 Thanks for listening all, Regards, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 "James Moritz" wrote: > Dear John, LF Group, > > Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level > on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the > spectrogram display. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > > Chris > > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8e34730199dac; 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SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( sorry Joe , nothing here ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8f7473b6209341; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:01:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f7473b6209341; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPLz-0004u2-4X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPLy-0004ts-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:00:54 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPLv-0003sX-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi,=20 It wasn't me...sorry! =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 14 November 2007 18:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 ". Roman" wrote: > Hello John! > May be it was a G3WCB? >=20 > Find by a google: > 21/22 Sep > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm >=20 Hi Roman & LF Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both frequencies in perect sync! It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in anywhere I can find. It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up again. Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9a9473b3bc312c; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:17:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a9473b3bc312c; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:17:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsMn8-0004Ty-78 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsMn7-0004Tp-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:45 +0000 Received: from webmail12.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.223.102]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsMn3-0003KM-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:45 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail12) by mail.yandex.ru id S6833256AbXKNSQV convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.47] ([85.141.88.47]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254253265 References: 1650000000254253265 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.547,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hello John! May be it was a G3WCB? Find by a google: 21/22 Sep G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 14.11.07, 17:09, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > Hello FL, > Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending > "WC WC" ? > Just noticed it on the grabber and can hear it reasonably well by ear. > Seems to be fading up in strength at 14:00 UTC > John -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9c5472dc1ec308; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:58:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c5472dc1ec308; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:58:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof3F-0007pS-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof3D-0007pJ-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:03 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iof3A-0004mg-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:02 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B37DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:57:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:57:53 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104125753.6c9e45a1@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.044,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Hello Mal & LF, The best I've acheived with Class-E has been about 70-75%. I understand that you're supposed to select values of components and tune the o/p stage for best efficiency at your chosen DC supply volts and target power. Away from these points the efficiency won't be optimum. 70% is easily acheived by careful tuning. 80% and better has eluded me so far. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9d3474074e133a; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:22:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d3474074e133a; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:22:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItnqH-0003XD-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItnqG-0003X4-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItnqE-00054e-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:56 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C204DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:46 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118172146.6539d78a@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.258,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: RTTY Galore! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, Almost continuous 100% copy of Gary's 22Bd 23Hz RTTY and now _ RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY RYRYRYRYRSQRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ GEVXIZ CQ CQ CQICQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ AR K >From Chris G3XIZ at 45Bd 85Hz shift. Cheers, John=20 --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a75472de55dce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:29:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA065-a75472de55dce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:29:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IohPM-0000wo-R2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IohPM-0000wf-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IohPI-0005Wy-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9717C8C21E for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:58 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oqUOQi+6yBXL for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.113.234.35] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 13C3E8C061 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472DE539.2000201@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:28:57 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hamilton mal wrote: >Hi all >Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has >anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard >to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > >73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > Hi Mal, LF group iin my design of class E 137 kHz PA using DC power of 27V and I = 6A i got 220 V(p-p) into 48 Ohm test load so this yields around 78% efficiency. i've used polyprop capacitors and PVC pipes for all windings. all necessary calc. were made using Nathan Sokal's equations in the QEX Jan/Feb 2001 magazine. also I HAVE TO mention the work of Alan, G3NYK; Mike, GW4HXO and Finbar EI0CF presented on Alan web site. i've made a great use of their work and experience. thank you :) 73, peter,sq7mpj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC14-120473f662b17e; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC48-120473f662b17e; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp2-0006Il-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp2-0006Ic-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVoz-0003xC-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 X-Trace: 636278047-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAA/1PkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 +0000 Message-ID: <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01><20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local><00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.196 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, Yes, just sussed that out with MMTTY but my TrueTTY will not move from 45bd. Tommorow night I wil use 85 Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you >> can change that parameter so no problem. >> > > > that all depends on your software! > > gMFSK has the choice of 45 or 45.45 > > There are just as many errors (ie lots) whichever speed I choose. The > noise seems to be wrecking the decoding despite a reasonable sounding > signal by ear. CW would work! > > > Cheers, > > John > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9e2472f350a35a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:21:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME106-9e2472f350a35a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:21:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3l4-0001M5-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3l3-0001Lw-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:57 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3ku-0002ki-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E485CA4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps06.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.34P) with ESMTP id XID406LkePuK8874X03; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:36 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN sv1bke@usa.net cmsapps06.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID406LkePuK8874X03 Received: from cmsweb07.cms.usa.net [165.212.8.20] by cmsapps06.cms.usa.net (ESMTP/sv1bke@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.40I) with ESMTP id 914LkePuh0078M29; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:33 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.20 AUTO sv1bke@usa.net cmsweb07.cms.usa.net Received: from 77.49.197.223 [77.49.197.223] by cmsweb07.cms.usa.net (USANET web-mailer CM.0402.7.80); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:32 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:20:32 +0200 From: "EMMANOUIL MANTZARAS" To: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.80) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <833LkePTG8362S07.1194276032@cmsweb07.cms.usa.net> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID914LkePuh0078X29 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.253 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : >Dear LF Group, > >I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for >500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at >180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, >let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see >who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers >of e-mails separately > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > > > > =20 > Hi, Can you send me a copy please ? Thanks Emmanouil sv1bke From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a93472cfb12266; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:50:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA103-a93472cfb12266; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:49:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoRnq-0000Ew-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoRnp-0000En-MO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:17 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoRnm-0004t3-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 47379 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 22:49:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE; b=sWX1/+lrFt2dfBhwoujj2vrCyfgDmTYMSrDMc8DIa5zlKfrMGGdx1Y6LRrpzW0+GS4LGU/YLi0aofQqwyrbU+wdJYLBIDbgltAQRrjcNe39IVC216Z/30rwxwN6ctpAOxP/qi/fdQsuHguNjMaqua1oZwaZslcC7GknSU6D/AoA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.123.172 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 22:49:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: h_l5qyQVM1lPDCscE34OFS5ff5_UhMSHtlWxFpP9m3PFupvFz.93pelwFjyTyVDvdFbpwLv9Rg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <004701c81e5c$2006cc00$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: [500] 500 KHz Narrow RTTY - G4WGT report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, LINES_OF_YELLING,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gary, LF, The following text just received, using MultiPSK:- "RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 22:45UTC - 03/11/2007 TESTING DE G4WGO G4WGT G4WGT IO83QV TESTING THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOGETESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G WGT IO83QP TESTING RYRYRYRRYNYRYRYRY YRYRYNYRYYRZRYRY" - pretty good, eh? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 03 November 2007 20:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Dear Gary, LF Group, Yes - quite consistent sigs now, I reckon I am copying your "quick brown fox" message with only a few errors on about 60% of the transmissions - It looks like a QSO would be practical at the moment, although the noise level seems lower than usual tonight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a85472d6e3f1cf; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:01:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA085-a85472d6e3f1cf; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:01:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoZTL-00057n-BL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoZTK-00057e-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoZTH-0003Pm-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE833EA0B3 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:00:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6471E3EA0A9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:00:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472D6E11.7000002@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:00:33 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.149 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XKO in QRSS30 On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b11472f28d01ac; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:29:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b11472f28d01ac; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:29:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2wt-00005B-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:29:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2wt-000052-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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b=NTWBoVH9kybcenBsBviIdhPafgDhsvCFcyR7Tvwf3M4W4KibTEPaMWx+/mXG67q/voIu4IGYGyUoha/zHYUW1qnVKSXDTrS02lCXp27LO6m1T3K5jiXH4b2b2eQDbgM9VCz/6odqUnnw9xhrUnvczEP54Q9jteqgF/AjYF1bw0g= Received: by 10.35.51.19 with SMTP id d19mr6135100pyk.1194272941199; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:29:01 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Can you put me on the list please, Jim Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt On 05/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-199474147f2286; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:23:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB49-199474147f2286; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:23:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu1sz-0005rj-C6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu1sy-0005ra-Qs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu1su-00077Y-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5233EA116 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AE63EA107 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47414778.2000405@online.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b0b472ef91295; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:06:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b472ef91295; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:05:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IozlZ-0005Aa-Ob for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IozlZ-0005AR-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IozlU-0004MP-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 X-Trace: 622107031-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAH6GLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 11:05:01 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi John, LF, This is on the call sign search on the www.qrz.com web site :- G3BIK E CHICKEN 21 TOWNSEND CRESCENT KIRKHILL MORPETH NORTHUMBERLAND NE61 2XP UK I have not seen his signal yet. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK > Hello LF, > > Looking through Chris G3XIZ's "operators" list I see no mention of > G3BIK. > > I have seen QRSS-3 from G3BIK on 502kHz on a few occasions - including > this weekend sometime. I have no email address for him and have never > read of anyone else hearing/seeing/working him. > > I will try to find an archived screengrab showing his QRSS. > > Regards, > > John > GM4SLV > Clousta, Shetland > IP90gg > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-10a472f9f1016f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.192.85]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC26-10a472f9f1016f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 -0400 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105225409m15009ut7ke>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Markus Vester" Subject: Re: LF: XGJ, Holmes Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 Message-Id: <110520072254.28809.472F9F100004E4200000708922007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-AOL-IP: 204.127.192.85 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Markus, Thank you very much for the nice early capture of XGJ! Unfortunately clouds and an approaching storm mean no viewing of "Holmes" here. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Vester" > Hi Warren & LF, > > on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C > traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. > > off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this > evening - really magnificent in binoculars! > > Best wishes to all > Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-88d47447b4035; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:39:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d47447b4035; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:38:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuTC-0006D2-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuTB-0006Ct-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:41 +0000 Received: from smtpout0136.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.136] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuuT8-0006vq-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:41 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003F319B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:31 +0000 X-SpamScore: 30 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 30,2,0,e6754c4203961db5,b7ad9d9c89d595b8,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2199:2393:2559:2562:2693:2729:2828:3351:3636:3690:3865:3867:3868:3873:4225:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: (100%) BODY: contains "rx"; Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:37:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what MF QRG I am transmitting on I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX freq to avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all bands, the normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG otherwise I might not hear you. 73 De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC62-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VM-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VD-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InUZW-00053w-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 9771 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.85.26 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:34:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: E_H8AEgVM1msM.KiaN.WfFR2Qiq4HpkkEB5HDG5mXCyiFd3MOTLk6Bm5HIyZYE6mqZ7IOWVDFM_Oa89.3RR8Fgmy8OrZWiHDXdpEwI23nhRNXuaD From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472981A1.3178.3C338F@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com>, <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.138 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:09, WE0H wrote: > Dave, > > How many & what length radials do you have under that vertical? > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > Dave Sergeant wrote: > ... > > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move!... 73 Dave > > G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com > With the back garden being only 45ft x 22ft radials, regardless of their number, are pretty ineffective on MF. Over the years I have tried all sorts of things, and there is quite a lot of wire buried under the lawn and a few earth spikes. I have concluded that whatever I do it is a losing battle. You can find details of my setup at http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/ 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC43-1de47350a5e3a7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:33:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC58-1de47350a5e3a7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:33:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqfDC-0002Rg-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqfDB-0002RX-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:37 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqfD7-0006XO-At for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071110013154m11004i3dfe>; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:31:53 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Joe Craig Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:31:53 +0000 Message-Id: <111020070131.6235.47350A0900050F350000185B22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, Is this the 1W EIRP proposal? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Joe Craig > > Dear Group, > > Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, > we get an allocation below 200 metres. > > See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ > > for more info. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-9fb4736c50f228; 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Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:01:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071111090122988.F13477000082@mwinf6306.orange.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:00:57 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4736B872.4000600@online.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks Jean Pierre,I wasn't sure because I didn't have a full callsign, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2007 8:08 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: XGJ Hello Victor , Victor van Kooten a =E9crit : > Received XGJ and traces at 137.775 KHz > It this WD2XKO , visible 22:45 to 08:00 utc plse look on my grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a97473bf7be371; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:40:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA107-a97473bf7be371; 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Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from proxy.wartsila.com (proxy.wartsila.com [194.251.142.28]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 Message-ID: <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 194.251.142.28 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.1 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roman, LF I have also noticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has commented on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is clea= rly audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode it us= ing various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tried but I'm not t= oo familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may well be between the chair and the keyboard. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting ". Roman" : > Hi All! > > > > 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight: > > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg > > > > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM > > 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it? > > > > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3. > > > > > > -- > > 73! > > Roman, RW3ADB > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a4b4734a05423a; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b4734a05423a; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:00:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY9m-0000Ei-1I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY9l-0000EZ-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:37 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqY9h-00028D-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:37 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:00:08 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <007201c822fa$572610e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:59:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2007 18:00:07.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C9ADB00:01C822FA] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xns0911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C82302.B8D51C20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20" ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xns 5:25z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InhpF-0001ly-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:43:41 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InhpC-0004uB-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:43:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38AB97000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:43:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 068247000081 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:43:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101214312267.068247000081@mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:43:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim, Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , looks like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty has that option Problem is the propagation , the window is not very long, but psk31 looks to do a good job , and ive run a session using Olivia 16 tones @ 250 Hz bw , that looked to get the best reception reports , only thing is its 250 hz wide , I noticed that multi psk has a 110 baud hf packet mode , its no wider than olivia , would be interesting to see if it would manage a qso , using very short frames , might just get in during the qsb peaks , ? To date, Its proved very hard to have a qso via data , mainly due to qsb , any system that requires to 'lock' first gives poor results .. Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Dear Gary, Graham, LF Group > > Thanks for the screen shots of the Chirped Hell sigs. The "speed" used > during the tests was intended to be viewed with the same spectrogram > settings as QRSS 3 > > I will be out this evening, but will try some more tests tomorrow. I have > PSK31 working on my shack PC at the moment, plus I have downloaded some > RTTY > software which will hopefully be working by then. I'm open to suggestions > as > to what sort of tests to do. > > BTW Graham - for your preset pots, Farnell part number 452 610 looks like > the right thing. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-69a472e1ddb8f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:31:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB68-69a472e1ddb8f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:30:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolAr-0003l5-SJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolAr-0003kw-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolAm-0006Uf-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 X-Trace: 621869641-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAA+sLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 19:30:10 +0000 Message-ID: <01da01c81f19$1c6b80f0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:30:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.202 Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D7_01C81F19.1BDA1660" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01C81F19.1BDA1660 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Lubos, LF, I get something similar quite regularly always on 503.300 KHz, accompanied with a loud beep & as you can see strong sidebands. 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Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IulPL-0000ig-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:09 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A118DA4D8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:00 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, It is normal, polite amateur practice to a) listen for a few minutes and b) send a signal such as QRL? when selecting an operating frequency. On 500kHz itself this is rarely a problem, as band occupancy is generally low. This doesn't mean it is never an issue, even on 500, though. However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. A 500kHz station (no names, no pack drill) was heard calling "CQ QSX 3533/7033" on another 500 frequency (the beauty of having 2 receivers on 500) and then, without checking if 3533 was in use.... no "QRL?" or other courtesy was given..... he started calling on 3533 "CQ QSX 502"... and then proceeded to alternate between the 2 bands until he got his desired cross-band QSO. Why he calls on 80m "QSX 502" is a mystery to me ...surely he isn't expecting a "reverse cross-band QSO" with an existing 500 NoV holder? Why not do it all on 500? The QSO already underway was swiftly and politely abandoned, both on 500 and 3533 to make way, without any fuss and in a way that was perhaps unnoticed to the station concerned. Sadly this isn't the first time I've observed such behaviour. Occasionally a non-MF aware station will call on 3533, not knowing that it's being monitored for cross-band replies, and it's perhaps excusable - not everyone knows of, or is interested in, MF. Even if they call "QRL? it might not be possible to reply to them. Many of us have "RX only" setups for the 80m side. In this instance the correct thing for us is to move our 80m RX frequency and announce it in our CQ calls. I find it disappointing however that active MF stations seem to blindly assume that 3533 is free for their use and don't first a) check 500 for obvious cross-band activity away from their own 500 frequency nor b) check 3533 itself. A quick tune round 500 would have quickly made it obvious that a cross-band QSO was underway. If 3533 is in use they are free to find another nearby frequency and announce it in their calls, surely? I've done this many times and still had successful contacts. There's nothing magic in 3533 itself. I see regular complaints here decrying the poor operating abilities of the current "non-CW" generation, mainly from one source. I suggest we all need to check our methods and motives. For some stations the driving force seems to be "DX DX DX" and first sniff of an new QSO, in-band or cross-band, and out come all the shoddy practices of general HF operation - calling without listening, ignoring other QSOs underway, assuming ownership of certain frequencies. It's bad manners and poor operating. 500 isn't a "DX at all costs" band - it's an experimental allocation where the passing of information and observing of signal strengths and propagation conditions should be more important than a "569 QRU 73" QSO just to get another new country in the log. Just sticking to single 500kHz and 80m frequencies and blindly calling "CQ" regardless of what is already happening on the band(s) is simply indicative of poor operating ability. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9c1472f24cfba; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:12:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c1472f24cfba; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:12:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2gm-00088B-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2gl-000882-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:27 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2gi-0006OH-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:27 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:12:19 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:12:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:11:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:12:18.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFEDE2B0:01C81FB5] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C81FBE.36633DE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0" ------=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable who ? henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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"James Moritz" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:53 +0000 Message-Id: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.425,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jim, Please put me on the list. Thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "James Moritz" > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8c947370c44193; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c947370c44193; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:05:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDRe-0001lH-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDRe-0001l8-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDRa-0008Bf-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2007 14:05:18 -0000 Received: from p5485791E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.121.30] by mail.gmx.net (mp046) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 15:05:18 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1972FZVFcF7WLIsgiTmtSTCqIO4+p/4vngO0NN61g sCx0w9vnfX+6nF Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:05:15 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <358016036.20071111150515@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz 10/11 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Copied S57A and F6BWO in QRSS3 on 137.7 kHz. From across the pond copied WD2XGJ on 137.7798 and WD2XKO on 137.7775 kHz. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-ee473102cb252; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:12:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB58-ee473102cb252; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:11:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpYVL-0001Kk-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpYVK-0001Kb-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:46 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpYVH-0003cs-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:46 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d57.e322fa9 (32914) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:10:09 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:10:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 922: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d57.e322fa9.34625c62_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --part1_d57.e322fa9.34625c62_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194394208" -------------------------------1194394208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT) No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 7400 Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194394208 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna=20 (miniwhip PA0RDT)
No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions.
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Antenna : mini whip=20 PA0RDT
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C832CE.BAFE9F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing away behind that slot? 73, dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of K2ORS Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=446&posted=1#post446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. 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It=20 looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing awa= y=20 behind that slot?
 
73,=20 dave G3WCB IO91RM
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Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum.
 
Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE.
 
 
STRAP!!
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C832CE.BAFE9F40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ad547440512d7; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:14:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB073-ad547440512d7; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:14:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iumb5-0004Q8-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iumb4-0004Pz-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iumb0-0001Og-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:18 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6DDA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:10:00 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121101000.2d311686@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:59 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:58, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing > > between 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. > > Interesting comments John. > > You must certainly bear in mind that working crossband 80m to 500kHz > is currently a very minor interest and something that the vast > majority of users of 80m will be totally unaware of. Hello Dave, LF, Yes, I totally agree that for the majority of 80m users the existence of 500kHz cross-band activity is either unknown of of no interest. I'm not surprised or concerned, that normal 80m QSOs occur on 3533. There's no reason why they shouldn't. > In that respect the choice of 3533 is perhaps unfortunate as it is > in a part of the band heavily used for local QSOs on that band. > Somewhere rather higher, say between 3565 and 3580 or so would be far > better. Again I agree, as a way of protecting ourselves from unintentional QRM from 80m users. > > To call CQ on 80m and say QSX 502 is doubly confusing. I still don't know what the motiviation is for this action by an NoV holder. Anyone who can answer on 502 should be worked in-band on 502. I fully understand non-UK or non-NoV holders calling on 80m "QSX 502". My real concern is the lack of courtesy or operating skill of actual NoV holders who open up on 500 or 80m (or both alternately) without following the accepted norms of checking (very carefully, given the weak signals likely to be encountered) that both the 500 and 80m channels are clear. If one or other is busy then an alternative frequency should be chosen. It also seems counterproductive to call "CQ QSX 3533" when 3533 is blatently in use for a 2-way in-band QSO by "normal" 80m stations with no interest in 500. What's a prospective cross-band responder supposed to do... call over the top of an existing QSO? Some flexibility is surely called for. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-ba14735e2262ba; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:54:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD103-ba14735e2262ba; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:54:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtaV-0004yi-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtaV-0004yZ-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqtaS-0006Ng-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 X-Trace: 644292266-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALxwNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 16:53:30 +0000 Message-ID: <009801c823ba$393bd1d0$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071109-0, 09/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Dave, Thank you for your comments. Yes I was using the new antenna arrangement last night for my initial testing. It does seem to be producing good traces on the grabbers but you never can tell if its due to conditions & not the antenna. OK your comments on the images etc, the 2 images at the bottom have not been re-scaled as I usually do, photos taken this afternoon before uploading, I will investigate. The publishing software is indeed Serif - Web Plus 7, nice price for the features. Cheers, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc > Not sure if you were using the new arrangement last night Gary, but > you were a good signal, 579ish, down here in Bracknell. Not that much > weaker than the G0MRF beacon which you were somewhat underneath. > > As to the website, no real comments except that the picture of the > new arrangement (image13952.jpg) is not very clear and you can't > easily read the text. Probably you have resized it from a larger > image and lost resolution. And on that subject, your two pictures at > the bottom are HUGE (600kb and 213kb), you should resize them to be > much smaller. > > I see it is done in Serif, which I understand is a publishing package > and not the best for html, which shows. There is a lot of redundant > code and all the absolute positioning makes it very hard to follow > the source. > > But apart from that, it looks fine... > > 73 Dave G3YMC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-1a447375c04127; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:46:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB510-1a447375c04127; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:46:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrIkh-0002fT-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrIkg-0002fK-G6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:50 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrIkc-0005Uz-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:50 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:40 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:40 +0100 Message-ID: <00a201c8249b$659a9720$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 19:45:40.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[708F4EF0:01C8249B] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.212,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): di2am11 11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01C824A3.C7407AA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0" ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable strong signal di2am time19:45 z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokzo-0003Z4-9B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokzn-0003Yv-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:55 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokzk-0005In-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 34264 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 19:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.87.32 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 19:18:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iA.AfhEVM1llkWKjUI17mUh3n5mp_ONIrVVDm9AOL3BdNvf8jp61vtHdD_qOzjQxfPw0ejGsDQqnHTQQHwNy4FUslp7Cnczk3Fk5cAOx4M0dn4gC From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472E1B09.14796.2B01635@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01>, <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 4 Nov 2007 at 19:00, Graham wrote: > Mike > > Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol > , > > have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. > > G .. I assume it is a typo, but his callsign is GW4HXO.... Peaking 589 in Bracknell. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a6e473c4086269; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:50:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e473c4086269; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:50:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IseAb-0007fh-L0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IseAb-0007fY-9K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IseAZ-0001Va-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:50:09 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c11.22af1d9d (30737) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:49:27 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:49:27 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195130967" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195130967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 15/11/2007 12:16:54 GMT Standard Time, uwe-jannsen@versanet.de writes: gravitation has to be decreased It might have to be increased....... so we can all keep our feet firmly on the ground:-) -------------------------------1195130967 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 15/11/2007 12:16:54 GMT Standard Time,=20 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de writes:
gravitation has to be decreased
It might have to be increased.......
so we can all keep our feet firmly on the=20 ground:-)
-------------------------------1195130967-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b82473f77d7193; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:23:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD064-b82473f77d7193; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:23:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWzl-0006vM-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWzk-0006vD-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItWzi-0004EH-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03663DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:22:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.038,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 "James Moritz" wrote: > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying > to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and > down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz > although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. > Conditions seem quite poor here tonight. Finbar fading between 599 and 549 DI2AM the only Eu QRSS beacon visible GW4HXO fading bewtween 439 and nil Nothing on seen on grabber yet of WE2XGR/6 although Finbar reports hearing him at 22:48 Very strong QRN to make it even worse. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8c4472bbe782b7; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c4472bbe782b7; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:19:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6ir-00009b-8o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6iq-00009S-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:44 +0000 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io6io-0000uo-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:18:44 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c97.1c2b8df9 (48624) for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:18:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 Good conditions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194049111" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194049111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 00.15 and it looks like the 5mW G0MRF beacon is hopping over Birmingham at about 140km and landing quite nicely in The Shetlands at about 900km. 73 David -------------------------------1194049111 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
00.15 and it looks like the 5mW G0MRF beacon is hopping over Birmingham= at=20 about 140km and landing quite nicely in The Shetlands at about 900km.
 
73
 
David
-------------------------------1194049111-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a1e472f8565152; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:04:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG068-a1e472f8565152; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:04:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip97V-000858-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip97V-00084z-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: from web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip97V-0003yK-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 50550 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 21:04:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bM+zFzwGCFMHWKXsL/ERaKNHn92g3FwcZOgQZ1mrhtSiUa5wLOhFxXtRhnqTm8HJ/uxIPFNKAvaquWK8rd2xrR5jmmCWmycEuSAjH2LbFVtWkmAXy+Hfir3tKTRUzRdjDKR+f6cn+5jgPcewDJ+BtG32ugXKuBB5zAyd8T7KINY=; X-YMail-OSG: ePtv594VM1k5f53QdAfgpkfVXPvGSV0E.D4XfRJJ9fWEJYU2XSC3oicSh6ETUlAAgEakYpnMikRZoafZyPuO58NBHsOzWm.9Pgqz3f1ETtmDz6mZ Received: from [78.144.227.245] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:04:03 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:04:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <233314.48220.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: -614: (null data) DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re. LF Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John Your sigs went down at 2045 and mostly stayed that way until now 2100z. No audio, visual only on waterfall but unreadable. At 2056 there was a 30 sec burst at audio 449. Nothing now. Going QRT until 2300z Mike G3GMS ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-6d5473c1b26162; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:11:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB67-6d5473c1b26162; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:10:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbgJ-0006fs-5n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbgI-0006fj-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsbgF-0007RT-PZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1B83EA142 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6690B3EA12F for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473C1B09.3040808@online.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The noise this night was rather low, at the beginning of night very good copy of WD2XGJ, at the end of the night WD2XKO was very strong! (20 dB with the top of the noise) it fell brutally on arrival of the sun, its traces were visible still 1 hour 30 mn see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-9774744a0af18c; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:18:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-9774744a0af18c; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:18:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwxZ-0006pB-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwxY-0006p2-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuwxU-0000Od-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:18:12 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lALLI33j098861 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:18:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000401c82c83$fe9fc2c0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:17:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QSO Etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello all, I have followed the discussion on crossband QSO's today. A few minutes ago I had a crossband QSO with G3KEV. Whilst calling him it dawned upon me that there is a very simple solution to this problem: I just send: G3KEV on 502 kHz de PA0RDT K. Mal send my call as PA0RDT on 3553 kHz. This way listeners on 600 m and 80 m do know exactly what is going on. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 521 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8ad4742e4d32f2; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:44:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad4742e4d32f2; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:44:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuTOd-0001QY-9Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuTOc-0001QP-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:10 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuTOX-0000Kz-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:44:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ezaq1Y0040cZkys0508k00; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:43:59 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id F1ju1Y0062Uxt080300000; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:43:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=piBfTJC0-lGg1QHaMC8A:9 a=613SB1H5lDEOLXZ-mFSYS9F57C4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <3C87970CB7D045799D88801AC71547A6@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:43:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre and Willem, Thank you for the reports and captures of WD2XGJ ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:41 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ > Hello LF , > > Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a8c472da43da5; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:51:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA094-a8c472da43da5; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:51:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod4A-0006c8-Ki for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod4A-0006bz-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from smtpout0188.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.188] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iod47-00046I-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:50:54 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.86) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0026F77D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:50:40 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c81ed0$8c7ecc10$56ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:49:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.440 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : The appliance operators of today could not handle SPARK nor have they heard about such things as crystal sets. You have obviously picked up an old comic !!!!!!!!!!!! or you are older than you think. Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > > a mode that noone else bothers about. > > Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-10d473ec5de2c8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:44:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC29-10d473ec5de2c8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:43:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItL8z-0004Iu-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItL8s-0004Il-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.140] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItL8o-0000OU-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:14 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E003827A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,37646ae185a98e3d,7ad9ba93e9b8200b,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1537:1561:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3636:3690:3865:3868:3870:4043:4250:4647:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m66-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.66]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82906$a105e5c0$42e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:42:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 condx Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Some improvement in condx early this morning. Managed 339 fm VE1ZZ but did not hear any W stns. GI4DPE had better luck and worked VE and W again. Will keep checking for another big opening and hopefully be hrd in the USA 73 De Mal/g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b1b4740bec81a9; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:38:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4740bec81a9; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itslj-0004w8-Un for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itslj-0004vz-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itslg-0006m1-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:37:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68E4E4555 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DD5KGMN1Kjai for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDD04E44E2 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:36:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82a33$86c03020$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.283 Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3B.E8849820" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3B.E8849820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary and ALL! And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. 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I shut down WD2XGJ at 07:00 UTC last night. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Laurence KL1X > > John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the signals. Nothing > this morning I can see > > - Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available > > Laurence 9V1 LF > http://kl1x.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Laurence KL1X To: Subject: LF: XES et al Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:41:43 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the sign= als.  Nothing this morning I can see
 
- Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available
 
Laurence 9V1 LF
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Try now! =3D --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7391_1194274468_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a21473dc1a924b; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a21473dc1a924b; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It3o3-0002gp-37 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It3o2-0002gg-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0156.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.156] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It3nz-0006BW-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:34 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0036A100 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:03 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,aeec1836587c4ffb,3d2f085e02610469,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2691:2692:2828:2915:3027:3318:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:4647:4699:5007:6119:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5, Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m15-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.15]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John I did work VE1ZZ who gave me 549 when I popped out of the qsb at 0117 utc. I had been 339 for some time before this. It was a good qso and he got his report etc solid from me. Unfortunately condx have taken a dip since. I need another opening like this for a qso with the USA. That same night I heard WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked him but he was in beacon mode. I have not heard him since. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > Hi all > > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the > > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out > > Hello Mal and LF group, > > I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening > (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. > > > I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that > night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may > have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed > the late night excitement. > > Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in > which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this > month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in > stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and > finally 10mW. > > At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent > a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX > power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together > fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers > correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine > what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? > > Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my > audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while > driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've > heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear > Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to > Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard > from Dave later in the evening. > > > > The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this > becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. > > > Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. > > John GM4SLV > Clousta, Shetland > IP90gg > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-11c472cd26bf9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:56:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC44-11c472cd26bf9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:56:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoP5j-0006sk-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoP5i-0006sb-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:34 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoP5f-0000AT-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:55:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 7277 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 19:55:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4Ii5e7gK3hk6V3yDzSzKbOcQjJbN8ITAjTmUHZA2IEhblsysH7qFVmhfZeTIMUTrli3TzKtu8N77dEHBHPcVZkWQPfwlHltltiv4D338miNlhCBmzleNdSNetiKXCXixVk4MPVyqFVd98iPBA5cfD22AQYxLoRXpWU3AfcOgfgA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 19:55:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: W7YVp1AVM1luKI1noyDT9IhrD3x90AH0W7cyfcjaGDj2PCnU3DOZhmhu3WmO73uqsmwX5tKcHA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:53:26 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:53:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Gary, LF Group, At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% copy at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it running for a while. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > Graham, & All at LF, > > I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no other > decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift when I > see this message come through on the LF group mail. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > > > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the > > option , only 200/170 hz ? > > > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM > > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > > > > >> LF, > >> > >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon > >> so MultiPSK users can decode. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9f14744d4f21da; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:01:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14744d4f21da; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv0Qj-0007Ku-GW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv0Qi-0007Kl-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:32 +0000 Received: from webmail19.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.53]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv0Qe-00022W-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:00:32 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail19) by mail.yandex.ru id S1744957AbXKVBAW for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.89.61] ([85.141.89.61]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:18 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000257905430 References: 1650000000257905430 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1013931195693222@webmail19.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi John & All! Many TNX for your fine business! I don't know the other grabber for 500 kHz in europe. Next time I will be glad to make a grabber at home in Moscow. Can your tell me a technical details? 20.11.07, 14:26, John GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > Hello LF, > I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's > "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! > The new URL is: > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk > The grabber is at > http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm > The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change > the page to announce a move of location. > Regards. > John > GM4SLV -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-1c6473dcf2bec; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:11:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC34-1c6473dcf2bec; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:11:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It4hj-0002r5-5y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It4hi-0002qw-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:06 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It4he-0001SY-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:10:05 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAGH9uXW013546 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:10:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000c01c82873$7f865800$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:09:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, There was also an evening opening in the lower NDB band for Canadian NDB's. This is a rare event for sure. Often conditions are taking a dip at this time of the year. This is also called the winter anomaly. To cheer you up, after Christmas conditions often improve considerable. However one should never give up, as nice conditions have often come unexpected at times. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 517 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-a03473f5fe9e0; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03473f5fe9e0; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVPL-0005k8-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVPK-0005jz-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVPI-0005st-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:54 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EF9DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:40:43 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117214043.7f0dc66b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , First try... STING HIIBAROWN P UM OVER THE AZY DG ETINL B GJRAVH G4LRH G4WTIOMFBENG RY YURYRYRYRYVT FRZRS RQYJYRYRYRJGU I thought it would print better than that! Will fiddle with RX settings. 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helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir1G1-0003eZ-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:05:04 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Ir1FU-00076y-01; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:04:28 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (Z2tg+8ZCghO1MPwekqpckhAIBU1znFx5-u55PkdtLrZIJXi8t5hzQwnCYBKI0qHZS+@[217.95.86.53]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ir1FM-0KYojY0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:04:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2007 01:03 GMT Message-ID: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: Z2tg+8ZCghO1MPwekqpckhAIBU1znFx5-u55PkdtLrZIJXi8t5hzQwnCYBKI0qHZS+ X-TOI-MSGID: 43265823-c539-4dc1-abde-d10a5842e870 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: GI4DPE fb audible in JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, later on (Sunday 11. November 2007, 0.05 - 0.25 UTC) in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, I heard GI4DPE in qso with GI3DPN (unheard) with good copy (s-meter slightly moving) and reporting about his xband qsos with OH1LSQ and VE1VDM and on the qrm around 3533 kHz from the ongoing contest. After closing with GI3DPN he called again cq de GI3DPE qsx 3533 two times - and I was not prepared to respond, sri, but hope to be on another night. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b6d475084923bf; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:46:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d475084923bf; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:45:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDgA-0005AT-Gi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDgA-0005AK-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyDg4-0007wl-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K9UM1Y00K17dt5G0501z00; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:31 +0000 Received: from amailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.225.119]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K9lV1Y0032bBRH00300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QJYSoCyG4QEA:10 a=jSgAKEDwlalt5/JD+1dgpQ==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=6JC1I0XzAAAA:8 a=LA2STMBXAAAA:8 a=pI_ePt_7lTRX8IjtwO4A:9 a=ZpLFd3f8vP1iIeh1bEgA:7 a=QlkeAUn9y4ul7w-QUZM8N2o5JYwA:4 a=KHklEoEtryoA:10 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by amailcenter19.comcast.net; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:28 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Sergeant" Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:28 +0000 Message-Id: <113020072145.21769.47508478000275660000550922120592149C9D01CD05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: azJvcnNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: [500]ARRL Letter reports on transatlantic QSOs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also no mention of the TWO QSOs that Finbar GI4DPE had with Bob WE2XGR/6 and that is more than 100 miles further than the WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE QSO. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dave Sergeant" > The following has just appeared in today's ARRL Letter: > > * 500 kHz Experiment Charting New Territory: The evening of November > 13 saw the first transatlantic contact on 500 kHz between amateur > experimental stations. US experimental station WE2XGR/2 (Jay > Rusgrove, W1VD, in Connecticut) and GI4DPE (Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF, > in Northern Ireland) communicated by standard-speed CW for about 15 > minutes. On that same night, US experimental stations WD2XSH/12 (Mike > Mussler, AI8Z, in Colorado) and WD2XSH/20 (Rudy Severns, N6LF, in > Oregon) made the first contact in the western half of the USA. Two > days later, WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE repeated their feat and WD2XSH/12 had > contacts with WD2XSH/6 (Pat Hamel, W5THT, in Mississippi) and > WD2XSH/13 (John Oehlenschlager, K0JO, in Minnesota). The ARRL 500 kHz > experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued in September 2006 and has 19 > active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of Vermont, serves as experimental > project manager for The 500 KC Experimental Group for Amateur Radio > . > > (No mention of the crossband QSOs between VE1ZZ and the UK though). > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-89e4737859ee5; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e4737859ee5; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLWk-0003Gu-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLWk-0003Gi-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLWf-0006rf-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:43:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8B64E4935 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8qMgyZneTIoo for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1063B4E4927 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:35 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:43:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c824b4$3ac4d330$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: [500] GI4DPE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C824BC.9C893B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C824BC.9C893B30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo Finbar and ALL! Very nice signal, audible 569, no QRN. GL and 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C824BC.9C8B8520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo Finbar and ALL!

Very nice signal, audible 569, no QRN.<= /span>

 

GL and 73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for 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(VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, LF, The slower speed has made a substantial improvement, thanks for the report & copy of text. 739 Km in daytime, wonder if I can achieve a greater distance after dark, we will see, watch this space. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > > > 100% copy:- > > > > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > 2007-NOV-18 14:54 UTC > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > > > Nice! > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-901473738c1184; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:15:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901473738c1184; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrGOQ-0002Ir-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrGOO-0002Ii-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:40 +0000 Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrGOK-0001m7-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:40 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id BRgH1Y0040QkzPw010Cf00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BVE81Y0013tmwjw0000000; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:09 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=uZgXX79qHpiUxnHnWIUA:9 a=IM5RJ0NRegpBeoRey93yYngAtZ8A:4 a=ufO146cb3fEA:10 Message-ID: <4737386D.8010901@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:21 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Steve McDonald wrote: >> However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is >> so pathetically wimpy now > > If you can't hear it tomorrow then it must not be on. Hi Steve, On 275 today, there are two discernible signals: 'BBN' 160 miles east-ish on Long Island, which is some 6dB bigger than 'PS' 100m north-west-ish on the other side of State College. Nary a whisper of 'ING', sorry. Looking back at notes from 1996, ING 275 joins a sad list of HXM 366, XCB 260, AB 400 and PD 222 (with possibly others which are inaudible now); locals that have fallen off their perches. A sizable percentage. Make hay while the sun (still) shines . . . Cheers, Steve http://www.w3eee.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a2e474413bc25e; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e474413bc25e; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IunZZ-0004td-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IunZZ-0004tU-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IunZV-0004XX-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 23BA01C00084 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:16:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.238]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E376E1C00081 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071121111639932.E376E1C00081@mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000901c82c30$09ebcd80$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local><003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121103259.2859552f@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:16:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.081 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Luv 15 , new balls please ! ................G .. Ps Bit harsh on the request for measurements there John! , quite a technical challenge to measure such small values ? intresting 'field' ! http://www.boulder.nist.gov/div818/81801/MicroNanoElect/ ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Have you heard the one about the " >> WHINGING POME" > > pome (pm) > n. > A fleshy fruit, such as an apple, pear, or quince, having several seed > chambers and an outer fleshy part largely derived from the hypanthium. > > > Fruity! > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: > 11/20/2007 17:44 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b7f474e01961a7; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:02:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD061-b7f474e01961a7; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:02:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxWr9-0000He-Q8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxWr9-0000HV-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxWr6-00065G-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JP4u1Y00516LCl00506300; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:05 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQ201Y00E2Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhCvLg7INEcA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=EYGnpnNsrNsb8Nz2CUsA:9 a=3YxCG451n391p8HQjkUiErh06XgA:4 a=IsUHOSoT7wwA:10 a=w9M6L-lLX9RaXb4r5FUA:9 a=5jpdOm2u3gdGJtWAEXsA:7 a=7h9emF3OtxWvCSTQv2yUurUheoUA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:01:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D446&posted=3D1#post446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. 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Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum.
 
Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE.
 
 
STRAP!!
------=_NextPart_000_039A_01C831F1.276307E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-aec474fc8ac208; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:24:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB102-aec474fc8ac208; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:24:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy19O-00041D-Tc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy19O-000414-EB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy18V-00045A-0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:23:06 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BDA3EA0D4 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8633EA12A for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474FC82F.3040002@online.fr> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.136 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , This night , the noise was very low , nevertheless the propagation was not with return !!! ( completely in conformity with the forecasts of Alan G3NYK ) good copy of WD2XGJ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-9544736167b253; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:37:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-9544736167b253; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:37:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqx4d-0005jp-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqx4d-0005jg-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqx4b-0007l0-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9CDA4D9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:36:50 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 502 RTTY G3XIZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, Chris, In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN. Seeing G0MRF too. QRN level low! Hearing G3XIZ calling CQ in CW and then RTTY 85KHz shift/45Bd on 502kHz RYRY CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ RYRY CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ PSE K Decoding really well! Cheers, -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC41-1bb472f7d37125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC23-1bb472f7d37125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:29:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8ZY-0007Rn-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8ZX-0007Re-VK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:24 +0000 Received: from smtp129.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.95.92]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8ZX-0004Jx-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 52518 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 20:29:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X7/NGWNRfHxgzR37Xi5k4FA9BAxrMmLYkpCyyTQjSXjw/AldZZZx3ubK9C877GDTZNtn1PSqBfiMsrZb1SzIU6M0umeaRZXvSuCdhPXoI3A/T9diqsZBDzVV6g6qODiIqKIwlGgLzN6zI1jsCPgnc4owKLVY4ELZahk7w6hRm24= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp129.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 20:29:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DXtAVh0VM1mtj_sIBzEzfvbyWpDod2Xw.lYRp5qXW_4pCTb9m9vmp2OYTOooTj.01A1UPOLtBw-- Message-ID: <472F7D0B.8070404@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:28:59 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, james.moritz@btopenworld.com References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, I would like a copy if you can. Thank you much, Mike WE0H James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b28474bd22a196; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC064-b28474bd22a196; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvbU-0004FR-Pj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvbU-0004FI-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwvbR-00071U-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F4C3EA0E8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BC93EA0FE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474BD224.2090206@online.fr> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.136 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night nothing here see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a54474b5847163; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA024-a54474b5847163; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwnTX-0002yH-JL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwnTX-0002y8-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.214]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwnTT-0004XR-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W4 ([207.46.11.167]) by bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:34:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.10] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:34:35 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2007 23:34:35.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[E78AD1B0:01C83084] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_" Subject: RE: LF: 136kHz beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,LINK_TO_NO_SCHEME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... =20 Laurence Singapore From: F4DTL@aol.comDate: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136kHz beacon Hello Mike =20 Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FPRX: IC 756 PROAnt: mini whip PA0RDT _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.=A0 Join in= . www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline=3D --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms...
 
Laurence
Singapore


From: F4DTL@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon

Hello Mike
 
Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP
RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip PA0RDT

Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we d= onate. Join in! =3D --_adffb5fc-b3ee-423b-88d3-d6c9a2ca6a0c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b9047448bee25a; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:50:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b9047448bee25a; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:50:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuva0-0006V1-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvZz-0006Us-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuvZw-0005uc-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:47 +0000 X-Trace: 649076796-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.95.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAH8aREdYal/k/2dsb2JhbACRAA Received: from 88-106-95-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.95.228]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 19:49:35 +0000 Message-ID: <150b01c82c77$a46a7630$e45f6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <14e501c82c74$5c5a7640$e45f6a58@wgt01> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:49:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071121-0, 21/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Rapido Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Again LF, Since my last mail I have downloaded & successively run "SeqDownload", that one works perfectly !! Cheers, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: LF: Rapido > Hi All, > > A little while ago it was mentioned on here that Rapido from Rik ON7YD > could be used for automatic downloading of grabbers. I decided to give it > a try whilst running my test transmission today but although I set it for > automatic download at 5 min intervals it will only download at the moment > I click the "Start Download" button & no further downloads follow. > > Has anyone any clues ?? > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b2d472cded9c6; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d472cded9c6; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPvg-0007kp-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPvg-0007kg-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPvc-0004nh-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:49:15 +0000 X-Trace: 621627236-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACN7LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbACQPQ Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 20:49:06 +0000 Message-ID: <01a701c81e5a$f973e0b0$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:49:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.204 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim, LF, You will have seen my previous mail by now. The software TrueTTY has a beacon mode, the text is written into a macro button & there is a beacon period setting which I have set at 60 seconds. Another nice feature is that you can set it to listen for your call sign & if someone calls you it turns the beacon off. Not tried that so I don't know if it warns you or not. The software only has 30 days use before registration, I liked it so much that I registered it for abou Ł30. It will send FSK via the serial port so thats how I can use RTTY etc with the G0MRF Tx & my DDS VFO using the CW offset feature. Please mail LF group if you are copying my signal again. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group, > > Nil here since about 1950utc or so ... since I sent my last e-mail in > fact! > I assume Gary has shut down - the fades seemed to go in cycles of about > 5 - > 10 minutes, so I should have seen him again by now. There were some faint > traces of something on 503.0k earlier, but could have just been noise. > > BTW Gary, what are you using to repeat the transmissions (assuming it > isn't > being done manually...)? Seems quite a useful feature. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > > >> Jim , >> >> Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi >> >> Assume nothing seen on 503 ? >> >> G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-88d472af8b9f9; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:15:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d472af8b9f9; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:15:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IntYT-0004Sw-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IntYT-0004Sn-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IntYR-0006RI-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:15:09 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28F1DA4D9 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:14:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:13:13 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102101313.73e91de5@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:31 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > On 2 Nov 2007 at 9:00, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, > > by his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so > > he's doubly handicapped:- > > > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. > > I run around 6W output. Hello Dave, LF, Thanks for your comments and explaination of your setup and experiences. I only "butted" in after seeing your (tongue in cheek) comments about moving house to improve ground losses! I note your NoV purpose of investigating the use of 500kHz from a 'typical urban property'. 6W seems painfully low. I wonder what your estimated ERP is given what you know of the ground losses and antenna dimensions. I'd guess it sub 10mW. No wonder I can't hear you! My suggestion that more power is necessary in your situation is still valid if the purpose is to investigate anything beyond the "comfortable ground wave" zone that you're able to happily work. I understand the feeling that it's poor practice to generate power simply to heat the ground up, and that the correct approach is to reduce ground losses. As you've observed this isn't practical so I see nothing wrong with using raw TX power to push enough current into the antenna. I'd not worry about how much was being dissipated in the losses, I'd care about how much was being radiated. The more of the latter the better! My own antenna has no real "horizontal section" but has enough capacity loading added to the already necessary upper guys to improve the ERP by 6dB over the straight vertical wire. I initially thought the steeply sloping capacity wires would to some extent screen the vertical and have a negative impact on the ERP. My measurements prove that they are very, very worthwhile. I wonder if you could try that approach? If you have to guy your 32 feet vertical (I certainly have to - at 4 levels!) then using 7m of wire as the first part of the upper guys makes a tremendous difference to ERP. I can't run any horizontal top loading either. > > Since I shall be changing the antenna over to 160m before CQWW at the > end of the month, it is probably fairly academic. > Hope to see you back on 500 afterwards. I'd give some thought to the sloping capacity wire approach if more TX power is not acceptable. I'm thinking of going QRP for a while - reducing TX power enough to reduce my ERP to the 10mW range. I doubt anyone will then hear me either but it'll be interesting to find out.... Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a6d4745861b172; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:37:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA055-a6d4745861b172; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:37:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCF4-0001M0-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCF3-0001Lr-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvCF0-00026j-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:36:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 13:37:04.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4E81260:01C82D0C] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C82D15.22C86260" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s . ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C82D15.22C86260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? I was intially set at 45.45Bd... Will try again at 45 -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b39472f49e9347; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:51:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39472f49e9347; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:50:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59r-00036U-5j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59q-00036L-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:38 +0000 Received: from smtpout0132.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.132] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip59m-0003CN-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:38 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.75) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0028668B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:50:28 +0000 Message-ID: <005001c81fcb$fa2ec390$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:36:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.437 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim I would appreciate a copy 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-940473ea40f1aa; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-940473ea40f1aa; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItItg-0003pF-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:19:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItItg-0003p6-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:19:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItItd-0000Ex-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b2f4747e7c33a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:59:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f4747e7c33a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:58:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqqD-000570-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:58:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqqD-00056r-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <474BD1B4.7030604@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-1811568249-1196293507=:5320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-1811568249-1196293507=:5320 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi JP, group. The beacon is now off the air. An update will be forthcoming. Joe On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---1719232024-1811568249-1196293507=:5320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-ba24741df393b0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:08:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24741df393b0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:08:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuByZ-0007TD-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuByY-0007T4-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuByV-0000EX-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507434E4C94 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFh4hDh033wX for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8E44E4C74 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c82adf$6d0707b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <005701c82a94$160a9da0$46726a58@wgt01> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hallo Gary and ALL! Yes, I am sure now, it was your RTTY signal. My locator is JN88KS. The same like QRA of my beacon OK0EMW. 73 and GL on 500kHz Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes=20 followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show=20 that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-8ec472f2a842f4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD024-8ec472f2a842f4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:36:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34F-0000Gz-7D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34E-0000Gi-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:42 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip349-0002VG-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:36:40 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:30 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c81fb9$3621e160$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:36:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:36:30.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[4170EE30:01C81FB9] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.252 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : tu john, 73s henny pa3cpm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg > Henny, > > Thanks for the XES report. The signal on 137.7774 is WD2XKO (W4DEX op). > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > henny van elst wrote: >> *who ?* > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b8a474b516515c; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD074-b8a474b516515c; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwn1S-0002pj-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwn1R-0002pa-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:49 +0000 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwn1P-0005Uc-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:49 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.bfc.249e9f01 (29678) for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bfc.249e9f01.347cab2f_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? --part1_bfc.249e9f01.347cab2f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1196118318" -------------------------------1196118318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 756 PRO Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1196118318 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip=20 PA0RDT
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<00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> <472C9EFB.4060206@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:26:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Peter, Graham & LF, Thanks to Peter you have just got an answer to the problem, I will stay on 23 Hz. Cheers Peter. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr Młynarski" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > Graham wrote: > >>> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii >>> ... >> >> >> G .. >> > Hi Graham > MMTTY > go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz > 73, peter, sq7mpj > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b99473b1a993c1; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99473b1a993c1; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsKa9-0004Gw-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsKa8-0004Gn-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:12 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsKa5-00035c-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:12 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAEFt4Qt027474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:55:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <002601c826d6$b7047a80$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:54:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNIQUE_WORDS=1.336 Subject: LF: Re: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, This station has also been logged on November 11 by Kary Syrjanen from Finland. Most likely a NDB. Did you write up the cycle time? 73, Roelof, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 514 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b62472caa3f2d2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b62472caa3f2d2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQA-0004vT-AM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQ9-0004vK-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMQ5-0003md-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:29 +0000 X-Trace: 641436976-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAGZGLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 17:04:19 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:04:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.205 Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Graham, LF, Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' > > 503 Khz cent freq . > > Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K > > Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per qsb > cycle ? > > G.. > > Nb , connect is enabled . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9da47310cb92a6; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:54:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da47310cb92a6; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:54:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZB8-0001TU-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZB7-0001TL-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:58 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZB3-0000oa-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:57 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter03.comcast.net ([204.127.197.113]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071107005336m11004ibb0e>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 00:53:46 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter03.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:53:34 +0000 Message-Id: <110720070053.867.47310C8E0005EAED0000036322007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Nicolas, Thank you very much for the report and capture! Your Miniwhip is working very well. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: F4DTL@aol.com > Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna > (miniwhip PA0RDT) > No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. > > Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > > RX: IC 7400 > Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b39472f7fff2b2; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC085-b39472f7fff2b2; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8lJ-0007hD-EY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8lJ-0007h4-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:33 +0000 Received: from web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.219]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8lI-0002Bs-Mx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 42483 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 20:41:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I5AnC19sbr35z45WSr2Mvg6MoyNhI2fOX7Yvq9hgfGglvua4TzrET4BPOHhvQDC4A/awNiorYOSXcDNA9HztOdTfXbdJSOwKCnV9B69+gD610VZkH5KMPdRmf9zWm8KCR6248QLZdsSRvimOEyktIR2QFD8klRixLZPMeadzhU8=; X-YMail-OSG: k1bKX0YVM1l9HkhG2LUDU6kon7zXZaWqQvtx8kDIVKk_nmJzXit4xqTtAhxFU7.AQMSN_T69XTXTr7nqy4nrZqJoz3aGxiksWPxrZbZf9LrNhHnIVAaCSCFGFAQ- Received: from [78.144.227.245] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:26 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:41:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re. LF QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John I was out of the house for your earlier tests but I have been hearing you from 2000z to now 2040z with some QSB from 339 to 449. Can see/read you on the waterfall but bursts of static spoiling the display. Will continue to monitor until 2100 but then have to go QRT. cheers Mike G3GMS -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 05 November 2007 20:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. Cheers, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi john, LF, > > Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-10f4736122f1c0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:19:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC31-10f4736122f1c0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:18:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwmY-0005Sl-5D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwmX-0005Sc-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:17 +0000 Received: from iasius.site5.com ([216.118.97.235]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwmT-0004aa-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:18:17 +0000 Received: from [62.249.237.217] (helo=daddave) by iasius.site5.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwmQ-0001UI-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:18:11 -0500 From: "Michael Probert" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:21:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Thread-Index: Acgjr6QiWv93jD+QQ6ubx4tPNpucaAAJsqgw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iasius.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ynysdawelcottages.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.292 Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary, Have been listening to your test on and off for several hours. Signals varying between S8 and down to noise with very slow QSB. I have certainly not heard you so strong before so all your hard work on the antenna has paid off. 73 Mike GW4HXO. __________________________________________________________ Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp __________ NOD32 2651 (20071110) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b904740a06f2b5; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b904740a06f2b5; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itqk3-0004I2-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itqk3-0004Ht-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itqjz-0005Al-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:43 +0000 X-Trace: 636611046-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAFovQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 20:27:23 +0000 Message-ID: <017101c82a21$6d4b2df0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:27:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CQ 503.600 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + LF, I am making CQ calls & looking for 2 way QSO's, I will be using the same RTTY settings ie. RTTY, 23 Hz, 22 bd, 503.600 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-add472b8ec0d6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add472b8ec0d6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3Xh-0006tK-NR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3Xg-0006tB-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3Xd-0007QP-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:55:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A8EE01C0008E for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:54:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 80D081C00089 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:54:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102205451527.80D081C00089@mwinf3416.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c81d92$a5ea5e10$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev><005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> <20071102195242.1f285887@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:54:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.098 Subject: LF: rtty /psk 502 / 503 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Printed 75 % of Chrisis call list , on 502 rtty , called but no reply running psk31 beacon on 503 , (cent freq) looking , full band , for call's in gaps Graham . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB31-69a472f6ccc1a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:19:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB68-69a472f6ccc1a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:19:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7TW-0005uu-1e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7TV-0005ul-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:05 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7TS-0003vH-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:19:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 87654 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 19:02:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gCx8UKIN+l+GhybHQoXLpktpK1DOfa0qy0J4k8mbOlL0f+q6RONuArhHFyGfSd0D9+byoc1WNp8ITXkrXec+hRHu5z/+6On6Irs7wfXvtj+oDqZ39ogt43+cP7W5GOiCO+u0UshrunfCYQt/X02rwWXvRNQUeWQSJx+c7azr0dg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.46.209 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 19:02:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tZO2focVM1mPgtIy3AvZsT_8Nroy9fsP3Ac9hyAQkNSjQOxLiVAl.GE0C8rephq4B.19S.xalw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:00:40 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.128 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear John, LF Group, Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the spectrogram display. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > Hello John, > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > Chris > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > Cheers, > > John > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-a2f473ff5ce171; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG091-a2f473ff5ce171; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfN7-00017d-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfN6-00017U-Jh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItfN2-0002Bg-Tp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3AC3EA0E7 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C743EA0E4 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473FF57E.6030104@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:10 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.140 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA.....................!?@$=A3=A7#~<> !... The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-ae547378844385; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB093-ae547378844385; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLhB-0003Ve-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLhA-0003VV-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLh5-000702-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:24 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6F53EA0D3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCCC3EA0CB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4737881A.4060908@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:54:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WAOUH is a cry of admiration ! your signal is very extremely still this =20 evening , Warren 73 J-P f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Jeff, > > What means WAOUH ? > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "F6CWN" > =20 >> WAOUH! >> >> 73: Jeff (F6CWN) >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >> From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM >> Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! >> >> >> Hello LF , >> >> Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) >> >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >> >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht >> >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-10547458a683cc; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:56:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC21-10547458a683cc; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCWP-0001Un-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvCWO-0001Ue-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:12 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvCWK-0003Xj-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:12 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CD03E198E8 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [195.37.145.12] by freemailng6503.web.de with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:00 +0100 Message-Id: <479510729@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: di2am@web.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1/w2qDbMGvxAliCndNP/hyB/utmMuzjaLRtlP8Ci0k7xSS7z VB4IyTQfx0mbUyVWh24GmhV0wTyXM6nThrogHJv5k1Dk6vNUBE= X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-------------1195739703449046093" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=-------------1195739703449046093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, the use of QSW by Mal was correct. The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in the fishery fleet in the sence: "Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?" or affirmativ "Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties". E.g.: There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him by vhf if necessary. 73 Joerg, DL3NRV --=-------------1195739703449046093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,

the use of QSW by Mal was correct.

The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in the fishery fleet in the sence:

"Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?"

or affirmativ

"Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties".

E.g.:

There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him by vhf if necessary.

73

  &nb sp;  Joerg, DL3NRV

 

 

--=-------------1195739703449046093-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1ca473a5779264; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:03:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC38-1ca473a5779264; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:03:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7a8-00023U-5z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7a5-00023L-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0147.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.147] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is7a2-0005VH-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0032388B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:08 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,da11d9b929a7bac8,b7448a69e2dea490,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1533:1534:1536:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3876:3877:5007:6114:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m1-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.1]) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <001301c82662$60c1e730$01e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:01:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 500 WD2XSH/17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Good condx early this morning. Heard on 505.63 khz at 0139z de WD2XSH/171717 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ad8472e41c03ce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:03:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad8472e41c03ce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:03:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IonZ8-0005vF-H9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IonZ7-0005v6-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:33 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IonZ4-0006ml-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:03:33 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.10] (helo=0.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IonZ3-0000ny-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:29 +0100 Received: from f054164248.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.164.248]:1235 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 0.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IonZ3-0003pt-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <472E41B4.8010602@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, > > Are there any circuits available for this type of transverter please ? > Unfortunately no... only a few photos, since I never made a complete drawing. I built the transverter stage-by-stage, and made a few handwritten notes here and there. A few photos are here: http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/lf_trans.html (quite outdated; the preselector has been replaced with a 4-pole version since then). The discrete Schottky ring mixer (using 4 matched BAT42's or similar) is driven with some ten milliwatts from the 10 MHz OCXO, but an IE500 or similar would be easier. The same mixer is used for RX and TX. Besides that, there is an HF VOX for the RX/TX switching, driver, and final with four MOSFETs running at 12 Volts DC. But today, I'd use a higher voltage for the final, since 24- or even 48 V SMPSU are easy to find these days (even without built-in LF QRM generator ;-) 73, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC33-1c94739d5fc173; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC37-1c94739d5fc173; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IryyS-0000mM-7D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IryyR-0000mB-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IryyN-0000sP-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:50:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D96EB7000098 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (unknown [193.249.232.218]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2876370000AE for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071113165040165.2876370000AE@mwinf2f21.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:49 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or EIRP?=20 What are the limits in the US, Sweden and Germany please (and anywhere else=20= that has an amateur/experimenter allocation in this part of the spectrum)? =20= And are they transmitter output, ERP or EIRP? 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-88b473b051b2b6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:24:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b473b051b2b6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:24:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsJA6-00042X-Iu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsJA5-00042O-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.12] helo=smtpout08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsJA1-0002Db-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 11135 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 14:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2007 14:23:44 -0000 Message-ID: <473B04FD.1070709@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:23:57 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, > Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending > "WC WC" ? Possibly a distress call from someone with a full bladder? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b3e47315661221; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:08:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e47315661221; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:08:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipe4w-0002VO-SR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipe4w-0002VF-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipe4s-0003jD-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:07:54 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W18 ([207.46.11.181]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:07:43 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:07:43 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 06:07:43.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[8298B1D0:01C82104] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.742,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_" Subject: RE: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi - Miniwhip - not that this is an exacting science I have a length of six= inches as an optimum in urban location with no large MW stations nearby -we= ll more than 50 miles away - I used DCF39 as a marker and MDS on Argo dot 60= with differing lengths of "whip/board" whilst in Shanghai, but the differen= ce from the designed couple of inches to 6 inches was just, just discernible= maybe less than 1dB. As people say just taping/coupling in the capacitance=20= and above a certain value it shouldnt make any odds. =20 On some of my eprobes and I have three or four at times in operation here, =20= I have a BNC on top of my baby bottle so can add and subtract lengths - impr= ovements do exist when using it on HF/500Khz with a longer length here in si= ngapore, but geography, local signals and oddles of other variables makes th= is kind of plug and see. The improvements are probably because the component= s are designed for VLF/LF and get kinda reactive as you go HF and I would pe= rhaps optimize the coupling caps/power iso values if I was going for a dedic= ated HF unit. As it is,the probe works within a 2dB ( or less) of a quarter=20= wave vertical at 10Mhz, and certainly less of a target/static or otherswise. =20 I couldnt have a "longer length" probe in my new home in Alaska due to the p= lethera of v/m station on 530KHz area making a mess - I already know its no= t going to be my solution there when I finally put down, but here its fine. =20 Ill be looking stateside again tonight on 137 and 500 for Eu at your dusk. T= hats if these @#$#@ storms will stop. Sun is shining for the moment... =20 Interestingly enough and tempting fate Im still on my first FETS on all the=20= probes but I really do bond everything pretty well so maybe thats been the s= aving grace. =20 Laurence 9V1 LF From: GandalfG8@aol.comDate: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 -0500To: rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.orgSubject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol.com=20= writes: Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to no m= ore than 5 or 6 centimetres..... and that's aside from any perverse observations:-) _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0G= et it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL100626= 971033=3D --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi - Miniwhip -  not that this is an exacting science I have a length o= f six inches as an optimum in urban location with no large MW stations nearb= y -well more than 50 miles away - I used DCF39 as a marker and MDS on A= rgo dot 60 with differing lengths of "whip/board" whilst in Shanghai, but th= e difference from the designed couple of inches to 6 inches was just, just d= iscernible maybe less than 1dB. As people say just taping/coupling in t= he capacitance and above a certain value it shouldnt make any odds.
 
On some of my eprobes and I have three or four at times in operation he= re,  I have a BNC on top of my baby bottle so can add and subtract= lengths - improvements do exist when using it on HF/500Khz with a longer le= ngth here in singapore, but geography, local signals and oddles of other var= iables makes this kind of plug and see. The improvements are probably becaus= e the components are designed for VLF/LF and get kinda reactive as you go HF= and I would perhaps optimize the coupling caps/power iso values if I was go= ing for a dedicated HF unit. As it is,the probe works within a 2dB ( or less= ) of a quarter wave vertical at 10Mhz, and certainly less of a target/s= tatic or otherswise.
 
I couldnt have a "longer length" probe in my new home in Alaska due to the p= lethera of v/m station on 530KHz area making a mess  - I already know i= ts not going to be my solution there when I finally put down, but here its f= ine.
 
Ill be looking stateside again tonight on 137 and 500 for Eu at your dusk. T= hats if these @#$#@ storms will stop. Sun is shining for the moment...
 
Interestingly enough and tempting fate Im still on my first FETS on all the=20= probes but I really do bond everything pretty well so maybe thats been the s= aving grace.
 
Laurence 9V1 LF


From: GandalfG8@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 -0500
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna
=
In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol= .com writes:
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to=  no more than 5 or 6 centimetres.....
and that's aside from any perverse observations:-)

Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 toget= her at last. Get it now! =3D --_303eb701-8cbe-4b34-b7ab-1694ea603538_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-9fa47487fec260; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:48:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa47487fec260; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:47:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw0xS-00061h-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw0xR-00061Y-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000 Received: from smtpout0191.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.191] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iw0xN-00088y-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0046CCA8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:45:54 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,3224fecd1d004fe4,9df91d4d66655af4,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1536:1560:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3690:3865:3867:3868:3870:3871:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82ed2$a0a0c600$58e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:05:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VK3NU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n VK3NU nw calling CQ on 3533 khz. I wonder if he is QSX on 500 khz !!!!!!!!!!!!! He seems to be in the contest and is working EU stns. About 339 on cw 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9dc472f014b231; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:41:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc472f014b231; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:41:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0K8-0005yU-R0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0K8-0005yL-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0K4-0003rx-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.101) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0027F331 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:40:23 +0000 Message-ID: <007201c81fa0$a9154130$65ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:36:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E > In my 700 Watt direct-from mains transmitter > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/137tx.pdf > efficiency came out somewhere between 80 to 90%. As Jim says, its > difficult to measure accurately At one point, due to measurement > errors, the calculated efficiency ended up at 105%. This is what I mean. Now over 100% eff any advance on this figure!!! > > Andy G4JNT > > > > On 04/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > > > > > > Hi all > > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. > > Has > > > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is > > hard > > > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or > > E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it > > is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference > > between DC input and RF output powers. > > > > In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which > > have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used > > air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule > > here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is > > probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q > > tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate > > and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, > > it might be another story... > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-aa6474402073c6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB014-aa6474402073c6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOc-00049D-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOc-000494-03 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumOX-00047I-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:25 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D003ECF6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:11 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,bfca19d0f1fa3745,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2828:2892:3027:3318:3354:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3873:3874:4250:4434:5007:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for correct operation. Things have moved on to class F and G but info is sparse maybe you have details. Ever thought about your own COMIC for some short stories and DX experiences. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > There has been very little response from anyone else about class > > E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of > > amplifier, or do not use them. > > > Er....have I missed something...? > > I seem to remember several people responded when you asked the > same question on Nov 4th. There were plenty of answers to your query > about efficiency etc. with a few measured values from real amplifiers > and some discussion of the theory and practice of switching PAs. > > I understood from the level of response that several people (myself > included) were using Class-E amps. Perhaps this time round they have > decided not to repeat their answers. > > I think that most people, despite your snide implication, have in fact > "heard about this type of amplifier" and possibly know enough about > them not to need to go over the same ground every few weeks for your > entertainment. > > > Since you've furnished us with some scant information about your own > Class-E experiments perhaps you'd like to enlighten us to the actual > performance figures, the hard facts that that you've tried to solicit > from others? > > > > DC supply volts/current? > > Output power? > > Efficiency? > > Harmonic and spurious emissions? > > Temeprature rise of the heatsink after 10 hours key down at full power? > > > Enquiring minds would like to know.... > > John > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-9424740530328d; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:58:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF018-9424740530328d; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:58:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlb1-0002R6-UO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlb1-0002Qs-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itlaz-0001NM-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:58:03 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F582DA4D6; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:57:32 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk Message-ID: <20071118145732.5bcf631b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. 100% copy:- RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 2007-NOV-18 14:54 UTC TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY Nice! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a1547370e2716; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:14:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a1547370e2716; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:14:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDZL-0001te-PO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDZL-0001tV-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDZG-0008ID-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111141315m1300bq1pqe>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:15 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:14 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:14 +0000 Message-Id: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon XYW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Joe, Jean-Pierre, Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for the past month or so. Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to the East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello Joe, > Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place > is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon > on 777.05 with “XYW” like callsign . My grabber has the > open arms to receive VO1NA ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > Joe Craig a écrit : > > Thank-you JP for watching. > > > > I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! > > > > 73 > > Joe > > > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre Méré wrote: > > > > > >> Hello Joe , > >> > >> On 189,9498 kHz : > >> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! ) > >> > >> The captures of night are at : > >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > >> > >> > >> 73 J-P f1afj > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-96f4744363327f; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:44:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF075-96f4744363327f; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:44:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuprM-0005Ho-2P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuprL-0005Hf-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +0000 Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.56]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuprH-00087p-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FRcH1Y0040xGWP80500W00; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FRij1Y00B2Uxt080300000; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:42:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=RPDut8cvebACSUp7ofQA:9 a=9qPEGJf_iFwrrZxXhkwEN2h0B3AA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <8BFF34A5FBA24285AF087FB88954254B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:42:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thank you Jean-Pierre! Perhaps Alan G3NYK can ellaborate on the band conditions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9a9473b438155; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:50:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a9473b438155; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:50:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNJe-0004aL-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNJd-0004aC-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:21 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsNJY-0003RI-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:21 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19EDA4D9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:09 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071114185009.46aa8ba2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 ". Roman" wrote: > Hello John! > May be it was a G3WCB? >=20 > Find by a google: > 21/22 Sep > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm >=20 Hi Roman & LF Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both frequencies in perect sync! It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in anywhere I can find. It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up again. Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC23-1bf472996ad301; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:04:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf472996ad301; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:04:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InVyU-0007nK-TE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InVyU-0007nB-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InVyQ-0000bE-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:04:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374D3EA110 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:04:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B963EA10C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:04:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4729968B.9070306@online.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:04:11 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137 kHz : WD2XGJ On 189 kHz : Nil The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b29473c50b65e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:59:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b29473c50b65e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:59:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsfEI-0007ye-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsfEH-0007yV-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:01 +0000 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsfEC-0004sk-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9061385E4 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:57:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E810A1385C3 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A39F3862; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73477F3864 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:20 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071115135659.73477F3864@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_77114875==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_77114875==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:58 15/11/2007, you wrote: >http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm Andy, The value for the speed of light must be raised. Yes, because increasing the speed ten times would - let us get rid the annoying time delay in EME QSO's - reduce the radioactive waste volume in nuclear power plants by 99% No, because increasing the speed of light to 3x10exp10 m/s would - increase the wavelength at any given frequency by a factor 100 (and thus we would need 100 times larger antennas) Of course this last can be compensated by your other suggestion to lower the impedance of free space. Thermal noise will be reduced in stages over several years. Simplest way to do this is by reducing the Boltzmann constant. Instead of making it variable I would just make it 0 to get rid of any thermal noise. 73, Rik ON7YD Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_77114875==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 12:58 15/11/2007, you wrote:
http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm

Andy,

The value for the speed of light must be raised.
Yes, because increasing the speed ten times would
- let us get rid the annoying time delay in EME QSO's
- reduce the radioactive waste volume in nuclear power plants by 99%
No, because increasing the speed of light to 3x10exp10 m/s would
- increase the wavelength at any given frequency by a factor 100 (and thus we would need 100 times larger antennas)
Of course this last can be compensated by your other suggestion to lower the impedance of free space.

Thermal noise will be reduced in stages over several years.
Simplest way to do this is by reducing the Boltzmann constant. Instead of making it variable I would just make it 0 to get rid of any thermal noise.

73, Rik ON7YD

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--=====================_77114875==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-ab3472caa421e2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab3472caa421e2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:05:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQi-0004vq-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMQi-0004vh-C8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMQd-0003mq-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B34B91C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:04:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 853741C00084 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:04:53 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103170453545.853741C00084@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:05:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.095 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the option , only 200/170 hz ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > LF, > > I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon > so MultiPSK users can decode. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-b06473d428913e; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:11:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC022-b06473d428913e; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:11:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsvL1-0001Qn-Oe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsvL1-0001Qe-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsvKy-00032q-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:10:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 39416 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 07:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 07:09:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: l4A5VJYVM1llN1qjZHy4ZPJWhevn4Sqf8XbMcexeWiw34zdxStDc5k7XwPavQlm45zF2fKImTbTn0PoYXzDUTdLpnj9HUSfKbibLDHt_5GFKhv0P From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:09:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <473D423F.9849.23BD2B@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev>, <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.650 Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 15 Nov 2007 at 22:11, Chris McCarthy wrote: > Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB) > > Chris, G3XVL > > On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > > > > Hi all > > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping > > all the time, and vy strong at times. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Yes, very strong here in Bracknell. Looks like some sort of commercial transmission which of course you will find on 80m. I have now taken down my 500kHz antenna and reverted it back to a Top Band vertical so will be off the band for a while. Typical, just had an email from John GM4SLV who was copying me fb on Tuesday night while he was doing tests with Finbar. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-b1947508c6455; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:19:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b1947508c6455; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:19:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyECN-0005VN-6t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyECM-0005VE-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyECI-0008Dt-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:19:02 +0000 X-Trace: 642271594-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.28.9 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKsaUEdYahwJ/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-28-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.28.9]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 22:18:47 +0000 Message-ID: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:18:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071129-0, 29/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 - XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C8339E.FA992910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C8339E.FA992910 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF, XGJ captured at 2212utc. 73 Gary - 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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000262232361 References: 1650000000261689569 <236001196124904@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000262232361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <495791196463117@webmail31.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:51:57 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Mal & LF! Was out of radio at 27th of nov 2007. Don't copy GI/G in Moscow b4 on 503/502. Now I'm looking to Graham G0NBD / IO83LK on 503.2. looking CW on 503.12 and carrier on 503.25 Quiet on 503.2 in Moscow now. Try on QRSS30/QRSS3. Today on 505.1 navtex 505.06 and CW on the DI2AM freq 505.18. 27.11.07, 18:42, hamilton mal (g3kev.ham@virgin.net): > Roman. > Pse listen out on 500 khz. I am usually around 502.5 khz and there is also > acty around 501.3 khz from GI4DPE. > We both work normal CW. > 73 De Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ". Roman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon > Nothing in Moscow. > Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. > Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. > 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): > >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > > > > > >Laurence > > > >Singapore > > > > > > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com > >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 > >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon > >> > >> > >>Hello Mike > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > >> > >>RX: IC 756 PRO > >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT > >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a7d474e469a1c4; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:57:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA075-a7d474e469a1c4; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:57:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxbRY-0000xo-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxbRX-0000xf-Jh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:07 +0000 Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.102.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxbRX-00066K-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:56:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 98957 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 04:56:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JSiSDmHFXlaiO8m5vcFxTyiIJECRjKjGWRZrsF/kY1oy9yLQkZtqKcdUvoPwsnHkKy2o1SatTC3yc8ZFmoisIn+N9lDlFMPBp9fe1gMlfudQVemZByfRjYd8w0asv1RpZqO2wz1qoH7Ej2PhUZUFg59cnjRjydK10C0yQ9WklPg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 04:56:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: AdfuuWMVM1m4H5z4srvVukaY.z_BcQwMa4gUJh.lQzjgC874.ujbgOhH51dNIVzynFl69vv2AJ5ZqRS_N6Cbi2h0cUL9zmAV6lwX6XoWFtT3XAUGNQ-- Message-ID: <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:55:58 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> In-Reply-To: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My guess is the existing fence wire will couple a bit to the antenna wire but possibly just aid the signal. Try it with a shorter wire that you already have and see how that works. If the signals are there but weak, go with a longer wire. If all seems fare with the longer wire, go buy or however obtain the 1k' or so wire and let us know how that does. I think it will be just fine with whatever wire you use. As long as the existing fence wires don't cross over or go under any powerlines, I think your antenna wire will be very low noise. An idea for inexpensive wire would be the galvanized fence wire from the farm store. Put out a half mile of it and see what happens. It's solderable too. Mike WE0H J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: > Hello LFers, > > My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts > to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a > thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out > of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about > eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? > > The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal > wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced > about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and > it appears to be galvanized steel. There is no intentional grounding of > the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch > the ground. > > Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC32-115472e2d4e49; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:36:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC37-115472e2d4e49; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:36:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IomC0-0004mc-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IomBz-0004mT-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IomBv-0006jG-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id 8k6S1Y0020ldTLk0001y00; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:20 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8kbQ1Y0041pKLLP0000000; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dfETk20xVif_qPf-SDUA:9 a=MBB6PDRx9tsm_nESBPzFGR3fCL0A:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Message-ID: <00d701c81f22$3a529960$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:35:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.305 Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I run voltage-mode class D amplifiers (400 watts) on 137 and 505 as well as PDM modulated current-mode class D AM transmitters on 160 and 75 meters (375 watt carrier). Efficiency in all cases is in the low 90s. The best I've been able to achieve on 40 meters is 90%. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: LF: CLASS D and E > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-9f7474c50cb7f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:16:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f7474c50cb7f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:15:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix41m-0005Eu-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix41l-0005El-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0191.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.191] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix41h-0008SE-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D004BC245 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:15:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,545e3004b83a3e79,f936fee2e2170569,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2828:3027:3355:3636:3743:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4184:4250:5007:6117:6119:7576:7619,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian: 0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:50:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Enrico The cct diagram is too large for the reflector, so would have to go direct. It E pa is vy inter dependent on V/W/Q etc and pse refer to Tonne s/ware V2.01 for design criteria. Mine is qrp for 500 and works fb and reliable. No smoke etc hi Pse listen for me on 502.5 khz and call me on 3533/7033 khz for a xband QSO. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO9SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enrico" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: LF: R: classs E > Hi Mal, > can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an electrical > scheme? > Thank you an Bye. > > IW4CXL > Enrico > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal > Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 > A: rsgb > Oggetto: LF: classs E > > > Hi all > I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for > true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was > almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost > perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make > a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly > better. > Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, > so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly > at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable > capicator. > I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed > through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design > voltage, but improved with a V increase. > In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very > robust. > The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, > indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the > base of the inv L. > I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E > constructors. > Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old > ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an > old marine tx. > Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b77474f4d232e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:37:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD051-b77474f4d232e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:37:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxsvI-0003Ox-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxsvI-0003Oo-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxsvF-0003Ac-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4631E7000083 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:35:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.253]) by mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2D3EB7000082 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:35:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071129233546185.2D3EB7000082@mwinf3204.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Carier - 502 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Just testing rfi and new AE layout , just running a carrier on 502 Khz , if any one's about , could you take a look see if you can see it ? be running till about midnight , Tnx Graham G0NBD io83lk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-aa847389b5ea7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB016-aa847389b5ea7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ire0K-0005nW-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ire0J-0005nN-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:23 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ire0G-0006ws-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:27:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 76602 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 18:16:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GVTFWhNfNCEfibFfixMnzF26ulLubHoTDsrLusTi2cCuCPSfjg67ZbQT5bv4yF6aWegDRm84vAOt280y3kZ7AxFP/eyd/8ottXWb41DF67871wPHX9Xn0c9tPgUxVFYvdkptFIDsxES5/Ja5gyTXYeLPM6Roca/tkX/rnBNy7Tg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.15.227 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 18:16:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TGtji4UVM1nk5bd.f9kkoDtK2GyxYbaLrPmjD1jDj2ddXQfLtmr1C8x4uPnkwtfvFbwXph_qgg-- Message-ID: <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:16:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and shifts "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter since then, but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off > the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make > CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which > makes QRSS harder. > > Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to > 30s slow) : > > 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) > 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' > 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' > > Very noisy overnight. > > Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. > Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know > if this frequency causes anyone a problem. > > de Mike, G3XDV > ============ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9c9473061e6fb; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:45:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME075-9c9473061e6fb; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:45:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpNnJ-0007no-50 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpNnI-0007nf-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:36 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpNnE-0001k6-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:36 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter20.comcast.net ([204.127.197.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071106124403m1200gpkj0e>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:44:03 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter20.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:01 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:44:01 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071244.10956.473061910008E25A00002ACC22069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : XKO, XGJ , XES and XNS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Nicolas F4DTL, Markus, and Henny for the reports and captures of WD2XGJ! Good band conditions are back! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF , > > Last night i copy : > > WD2XKO > WD2XGJ ( Verry good signal ) > WD2XES > WD2XNS > > Captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-ee47317d91209; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:56:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB58-ee47317d91209; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:55:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpghF-0003TG-4C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpghE-0003T6-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpghB-0004Mk-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ED43EA0BC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:55:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA453EA0B7 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:55:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47317D84.2020202@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:55:32 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB41-c2472c915632e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:18:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB14-c2472c915632e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:18:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKlY-0003rL-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKlX-0003rC-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:27 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoKlU-0003iQ-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:18:27 +0000 X-Trace: 621546937-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAwuLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 15:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 15:17:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All, By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz shift. Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. Reports welcome. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a74473c439a5f; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:03:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA064-a74473c439a5f; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:03:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IseMq-0007oP-Ka for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IseMq-0007oG-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IseMm-0001fc-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B900767676 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:02:21 +0100 Message-ID: <473C435C.8020903@telia.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:02:20 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Maybe, but please don't reduce it too much! See: http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19870601 73 Johan SM6LKM uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: > gravitation has to be decreased From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1c472dd1ad5b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c472dd1ad5b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iog6N-00006b-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iog6M-00006S-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:22 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iog6J-0001wy-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:05:22 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Pd3waIXF7mFboaXGLmbdAQ4cDe131byqsE2fVrfl/Dj1SAnYAZDVyhXgcsYOHEIf; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.41.23.54] (helo=kd4wov7) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Iog6C-00008m-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:05:12 -0500 From: "kd4wov" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <472DCF27.5020708@att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b01010ba3742ec22bac281d236a16b6740350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Wow, where is the best place to get info on the D and E class amps? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 08:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E 86% efficiency at 400 watts out with GŘMRF amp and MŘBMU mod is what I get. W4DEX, WD2XKO hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.133]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-1744742abb2214; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:41:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB12-1744742abb2214; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPb8-0000Uh-Cp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPb7-0000UX-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPb1-0007m7-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:40:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E93EA0DE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15073EA0B4 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4742AB98.3060209@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:40:40 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-1cc472f60f761; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:38:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC310-1cc472f60f761; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:29:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6hB-00057F-BP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:29:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6hA-000576-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello John, at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 Chris G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) On 05/11/2007, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > Hello LF, > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) > for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really > heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can > normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon > using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. > > > > Cheers, > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > ------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello John,
at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9
Chris
G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB)



On 05/11/2007, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV < gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Hello LF,

I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP)
for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really
heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can
normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB

I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon
using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power.



Cheers,

John

--
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



------=_Part_6411_31430663.1194287340612-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB41-d8473ecbb116d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:08:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB36-d8473ecbb116d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:08:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItLXA-0004VA-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItLXA-0004V1-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItLX6-000206-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:08:20 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAHB7kOX030579 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:46 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAHB7jbL006566 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:45 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAHB7jrk006436; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:45 -0330 (NST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:37:44 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <473EA3F3.90605@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <473EA3F3.90605@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Greetings J-P, The beacon was switched off last night at 0400 utc. Heavy winds were causing the wire to short to the tower. 73 Joe On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC14-1c64738ee561cc; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:23:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC34-1c64738ee561cc; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjXf-0006cp-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjXf-0006cg-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81] helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjXc-0005Fm-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IrjXH-0007wb-04; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:21:47 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (EXp55OZHohNH0hZi3b-aSnwOejhFXKXYAXH2NZmTrQ8g9oyFzYeSD7r2VCgmDOIw2P@[217.95.78.29]) by fwd27.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IrjX9-1xKPuS0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:21:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 13 Nov 2007 00:21 GMT Message-ID: <1IrjX9-1xKPuS0@fwd27.t-online.de> X-ID: EXp55OZHohNH0hZi3b-aSnwOejhFXKXYAXH2NZmTrQ8g9oyFzYeSD7r2VCgmDOIw2P X-TOI-MSGID: 0f610ce0-1379-4756-b5b7-d9df0df8e3e6 X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: G3LDO xband Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The contact started at 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and told him I would wait. Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator which he sent to F2JB. After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and became almost unreadible. Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for further attempts on the 500 kHz band. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-93f47366d61ae; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:48:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f47366d61ae; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:48:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir2rK-00075b-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir2rK-00075S-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir2rG-0005pq-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4891EF8BB0 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id UN-hmB4koc8h for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi68.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.73]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BF121EF8BA4 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:47:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.418 Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is so > pathetically wimpy now If you can't hear it tomorrow then it must not be on. If it made it back this far, then it should have a substantial signal back your way as well. It may indeed have just returned. If you listened today for it and it is not there, than it likely is not on the air. What I may have heard was an in-sync keying of HIN and GEY coming out as ING...it would be surprising for a 25 watter to make it back this far but conditions have been exceptional the past few nights. Please let me know what you hear Steve / Many thanks. Steve / VE7SL I can't hear it at 60 miles away (to > be fair there are a couple like that, IUB 404 and DYL 237 > spring to mind, but they're both very sad creatures), it > wasn't to be found when I did a daylight sweep from a nearby > quiet site testing out a mobile setup a couple of weeks ago. > > Will get back to you. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > > > Steve McDonald wrote: > > Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new > > location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other > > east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to > > check 275's USB and see if it really is back. > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > > >> Hi Steve, > >> > >> ING 275 > >> > >> It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at > >> one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > >> http://www.w3eee.com > >> > >> Steve McDonald wrote: > >>> I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that > > could > >>> give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > >>> on-the-air. > >>> > >>> Steve / VE7SL > >>> > >>> Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9db472cd3731f9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:01:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME097-9db472cd3731f9; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPAj-00072l-N7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPAj-00072c-BF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPAe-0000Fo-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:00:45 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C061E1C0008C for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:00:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 91A4A1C0008A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:00:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103200014596.91A4A1C0008A@mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005801c81e54$30a624a0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:00:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this reflector, remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic radio , We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may be ? just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the CIO ... old habits die hard ... G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-92c472e5cd0111; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:59:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c472e5cd0111; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:59:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IopM7-00078B-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IopM6-000782-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:14 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IopM4-0003nM-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:58:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEB4E4A77 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4otLPuBVbr5u for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC374E450A for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:02:37 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 00:57:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] Dots_G4WGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hallo Gary! Really, you are right, those dots are on the John=B4s grabber! There are something new on the band. Thanks for your notice. The weather is awful, it=B4s raining cats and dogs. Nothink good for listening on 500kHz. 73 and GN! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Lubos, Look at John's GM4SLV grabber, I can see the dots on there. http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm 73 - Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: LF: [500] Dots again > Hallo ALL! > I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal > is on the band again. > Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two > frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. > Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? > > Lubos, OK2BVG > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-91847317171da; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:04:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD078-91847317171da; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:04:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpfsA-0002m2-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpfsA-0002lt-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipfs8-0003mG-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:02:50 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F48DA537 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:02:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:02:41 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071107080241.2c293822@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GM4SLV_this_morn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:31:35 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > GM, John and ALL! > I captured your signal this morning.It was audible 329 with long QSB. > I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal > repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT. Thanks for another report Lubos, I don't think conditions were very good last night, as you've had better reception from me in the past? > What ERP did you use this morn? 100mW ERP of course ;-) =20 Best 73,=20 --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a6a473613d8b9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a473613d8b9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqwtp-0005YZ-NV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqwtp-0005YQ-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqwtm-0004cu-FJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:49 +0000 X-Trace: 627153790-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAOKiNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 20:25:27 +0000 Message-ID: <00c501c823d7$d4eb2460$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.199 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Mike, LF, Thanks for your comments, it is very gratifying when something actually shows for the hours put into the work. Next step will be to raise the mast to its usual height (top load at 12 metres) soon & test again. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Probert" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: LF: RE: Antenna upgrade etc > Hello Gary, > Have been listening to your test on and off for several hours. Signals > varying between S8 and down to noise with very slow QSB. I have certainly > not heard you so strong before so all your hard work on the antenna has > paid > off. > > 73 > > Mike GW4HXO. > __________________________________________________________ > > > Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high > rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a > similar > > performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 > meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2651 (20071110) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-193472d0ceb37c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:06:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB43-193472d0ceb37c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:06:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoSzh-0000um-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoSzh-0000ud-AK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoSzb-0005r4-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071104000514m1300bsc79e>; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:05:24 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:13 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "henny van elst" Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:05:13 +0000 Message-Id: <110420070005.27290.472D0CB90000CA8500006A9A22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0211.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Hartmut, Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the reports and captures! WD2XGJ is QRT due to storms. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > trace of xgj > henny pa3cpm 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-96e472efd9a20; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:25:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF074-96e472efd9a20; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:25:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip04f-0005PQ-Gj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip04f-0005PH-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip04c-0004eH-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:24:57 +0000 X-Trace: 622117010-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAOSLLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 11:24:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00a201c81f9e$79a501d0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <7.0.1.0.1.20071105130741.019c8570@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:24:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, Thank you to Kevin ZL4MD & Wolf DL4YHF for their comments on this subject. Any further mails from others re the above will be greatly appreciated. Thanks & 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-aea472f7b8223; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:23:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea472f7b8223; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:22:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8SF-0007BV-5z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8SE-0007BM-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:50 +0000 Received: from spikey-mike.demon.co.uk ([80.176.248.203] helo=mail.spikey-mike.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8SB-0003Oh-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:50 +0000 Received: from ws1.spikey-mike.com ([10.0.0.1] helo=ws1) by mail.spikey-mike.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ip8Rk-0007qP-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:21:20 +0000 From: "Mike Hawkshaw" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com><20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local><01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:21:18 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c81fe9$6c216cb0$0100000a@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acgf5vcuaLMuyLylSyKq+BVUVDcseQAABHkg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Karma: -848: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C81FE9.6C23B6A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C81FE9.6C23B6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, LF. I left speclab running on a very long display, and there is just a faint glimmer of a trace appearing a 19:32. From about 20:00 it is much more obvious at about 10 dB above my noise floor and is an audible copyable signal. Attached a screen grab edited to show the timing alongside the trace. I'll send a full grab direct. Cheers, Mike G7AQA, IO93DT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 05 November 2007 20:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. 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X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2f472d3d8cb7; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:33:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG091-a2f472d3d8cb7; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:33:34 -0400 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF14E5BC6 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:37:03 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:32:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81e93$46efde10$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Unknown signal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81E9B.A8B44610" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81E9B.A8B44610 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I captured an unknown signal for me: Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. Interesting! Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81E9B.A8B6B710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I captured an unknown signal for me:

Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47= sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz.

Interesting!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Some listening reports 500 kHz from JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, this evening of 31. October 2007 I have heard somewhat earlier into the band to see how potential xband signals would develop at my QTH JN68GN in eastern Bavaria (at 48,5 degrees latitude): 21.55 UTC heard GM4SLV working F6C?I on 502,1 kHz (from other sources I guess it had been F6CNI) 21.59 UTC heard G3UNT working GI3PDN on 502,7 kHz Around 23.05 UTC heard GI3PDN beaconing on 501,6 kHz All signals rather weak, callsigns had to be heard repeatedly to be sure, single letters were missed quite often. Therefore xband qsos would be rather tough. I hope condx will improve in November. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-95e472ae47f3c8; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:49:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF054-95e472ae47f3c8; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:49:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InsBy-0003v3-QG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InsBy-0003uu-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InsBv-0005Av-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:47:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F03EA0E6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1C3EA0E4 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:47:25 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ and WD2XES On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-ba2472f9f46109; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:55:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba2472f9f46109; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:55:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAq9-0001w2-Mm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAq9-0001vt-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAq5-0005Kn-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:41 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105225409m15009ut7ke>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Markus Vester" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 Message-Id: <110520072254.28809.472F9F100004E4200000708922007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ, Holmes X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Markus, Thank you very much for the nice early capture of XGJ! Unfortunately clouds and an approaching storm mean no viewing of "Holmes" here. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Vester" > Hi Warren & LF, > > on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C > traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. > > off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this > evening - really magnificent in binoculars! > > Best wishes to all > Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b944745aa9d30e; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:13:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD086-b944745aa9d30e; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:13:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEfF-0002A0-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEfF-00029r-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvEfC-00045N-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0AEB07000089 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.170]) by mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A2734700008D for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:12:19 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071122161219665.A2734700008D@mwinf3201.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002601c82d22$76ede7e0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <479510729@web.de> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.080,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .. As we seem to have a nautical flavour to the exchange, perhaps we ha= ve a descendant of Mr Edward Teach in our midst, who although a fine seaman= did bend the rules slightly . to quote >> To avoid any ambiguity xband work= ing 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz <<<=20 505.5 ? web link reveals all=20 =20 http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/famous-pirates.htm =20 G ..=20 ---- Original Message -----=20 From: di2am@web.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Hi all, the use of QSW by Mal was correct. The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it in= the fishery fleet in the sence: "Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your duties?" or affirmativ "Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch duties"= . E.g.:=20 There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable vhf-c= ontact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job to do,=20= for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an other= r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will stand list= ening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform him b= y vhf if necessary. 73 &nb sp; Joerg, DL3NRV ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.3/1144 - Release Date: 11/21/200= 7 16:28 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

 ..  As we seem to&n= bsp;=20 have a nautical flavour to the exchange, perhaps we have a descendant of&n= bsp;=20 Mr Edward Teach in our midst, who although a fine seaman did bend the rule= s=20 slightly … to quote >> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 50= 0/HF. I=20 will use the HF freqs at
times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz=20 <<< 

 

 505.5 ? web link reveals all=20

 

http://www.= elizabethan-era.org.uk/famous-pirates.htm

 

G ..

 
 
---- Original Message -----
di2am@web.de
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1= :55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV

Hi all,

the use of QSW by Mal was correct.

The meaning of QTV is misunderstood. In the "good old times" we used it= in=20 the fishery fleet in the sence:

"Could you take over my watch duties?" or "Shall I take over your=20 duties?"

or affirmativ

"Pls take over my listening watch" or "I will take over your watch=20 duties".

E.g.:

There are 2 or more vessels on the same fishing ground having stable=20 vhf-contact. The radio officer of one of the vsls has an urgent other job=20= to=20 do, for instance repairs on navigational or sonar equipment. So he asks an= =20 other r/o of the fleet "qtv?". If positive answered the other r/o will sta= nd=20 listening watch for his colleague on 500 kcs and/or other freqs and inform= him=20 by vhf if necessary.

73

  &nb sp;  Joerg, DL3NRV

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free=20 Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.3/1144 - Release Da= te:=20 11/21/2007 16:28
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C82D22.709637D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a8d4736f63a29d; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:32:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4736f63a29d; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:31:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrByT-0001TW-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrByT-0001TN-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:37 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrByO-0003vH-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:31:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCC63EA0AD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3293EA0EC for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736F623.3070501@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:31:31 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.142 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon on 777.05 with =93XYW=94 like callsign . My grabber has the open arms to receive VO1NA ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you JP for watching. > > I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! > > 73 > Joe > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> Hello Joe , >> >> On 189,9498 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything= ! ) >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ >> >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-da472caabc28e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:10:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB38-da472caabc28e; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:07:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMSe-00053E-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMSd-000534-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMSa-0001Jf-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:07:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BF0871C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:06:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 88BED1C00082 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:06:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103170654560.88BED1C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002301c81e3b$f98f9720$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> <472C9EFB.4060206@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:07:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I think mmtty is 'rtty' only , ? G .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > Graham wrote: > >>> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii=20 >>> ... >> >> >> G .. >> > Hi Graham > MMTTY > go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz > 73, peter, sq7mpj > > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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--part1_d47.17eb9106.345b9ee9_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-88b472cad043de; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:16:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b472cad043de; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:16:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMbx-0005FU-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMbw-0005FL-Uz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:40 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMbt-0005eE-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:16:40 +0000 X-Trace: 621578583-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACZKLEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 17:16:02 +0000 Message-ID: <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:16:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Graham, & All at LF, I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no other decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift when I see this message come through on the LF group mail. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get the > option , only 200/170 hz ? > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> LF, >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift soon >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-f0473f67a4e6; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:14:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB510-f0473f67a4e6; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:13:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVv8-0006VQ-Cx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVv7-0006VH-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:46 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVv5-0006An-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:45 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE2DA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:35 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117221335.4a40e88f@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > Yes, just sussed that out with MMTTY but my TrueTTY will not move > from 45bd. > > Tommorow night I wil use 85 Hz shift. > > 73 I'd guess that given similar conditions 85Hz would be perfect copy. The decode margin on 23Hz must be tiny! I'll try to get a few hours in the shack tomorrow (no promises though!) John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9b14736213a206; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:23:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14736213a206; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:23:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqxmb-00062v-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqxma-00062m-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxmY-0004q5-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cef.2083ab6d (39952) for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:22:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.085,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194729730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194729730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mal. Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP Best 73 from F4DTL RX: IC 7400 Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194729730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal.
Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL
RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini=20 whip PA0RDT
-------------------------------1194729730-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8f472cc7122ec; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:08:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA097-a8f472cc7122ec; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:08:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOLd-0006VZ-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOLc-0006VP-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout0166.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.166] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOLZ-0007oW-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:56 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.13) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E00269146 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:07:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81e4c$c79e7ea0$0dd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> <003101c81e40$59ff6870$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:06:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have a PK232 and Kam surplus to requirement, the best choice for those that favour the digi modes. Mint condx with h/books G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > Ok Gary, > > Well , thats the beacon message , I think maxfram is 35 and its just under > , I'd rather use the pk232 , but its not wired up for 'tx' , the software > may make a better job of 'rx' though > > Are you closer to Birmingham , ? the signals not showing there ! > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:04 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > > > Hi Graham, LF, > > > > Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Graham" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM > > Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > > > > >> 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' > >> > >> 503 Khz cent freq . > >> > >> Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K > >> > >> Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per > >> qsb cycle ? > >> > >> G.. > >> > >> Nb , connect is enabled . > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a8d4732dfa81cf; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:06:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA095-a8d4732dfa81cf; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:06:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq4HF-0000bJ-Rw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq4HF-0000bA-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq4HC-0005Jt-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:06:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC683EA10D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19853EA0DC for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4732DF82.5000801@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:05:54 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF'ers , In spring , I stopped my =93grabber=94 137kHz because I thought that it harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? Thank you for your answer. 73 f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-11a4736c16e321; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC42-11a4736c16e321; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8SB-0000dk-T5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8SB-0000db-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir8S8-0001B9-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:46:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106F23EA0F0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0CE3EA0D5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:45:54 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-ab5472a1aa9133; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:28:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB033-ab5472a1aa9133; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:27:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inekz-0000lt-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inekz-0000lk-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from smtpout0178.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.178] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inekw-0008L9-Nt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:05 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.204.62) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0024B43A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:52 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.443 Subject: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz De G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a0a473c38b1cb; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:16:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a473c38b1cb; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:16:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdeA-0007Re-Ms for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdeA-0007RU-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from mxoutlb03.versatel.de ([89.246.255.233]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isde5-0003w9-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:38 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxoutlb03.versatel.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAFCGTj0008711 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.102.232]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAFCGT6c003444 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from i59f621c6.versanet.de (i59f621c6.versanet.de [89.246.33.198]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20071115131628.c9mksxwrm8tcgo48@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:28 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von Andy Talbot : > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm > > gravitation has to be decreased From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a984741797786; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:54:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984741797786; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:54:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu5A4-0006mr-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu59t-0006mi-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:21 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu59g-0004HC-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:11 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07BDC1C00099 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from JR (unknown [193.249.230.201]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E34F1C00098 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071119114514320.4E34F1C00098@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711191245120011.057DD9C4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:12 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thank you everybody for providing information. 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF094-9834731f3182c9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:17:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF101-9834731f3182c9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:17:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoWD-0005v8-F9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoWD-0005uz-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:45 +0000 Received: from mx39.mail.ru ([194.67.23.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpoW9-0001PB-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:44 +0000 Received: from [62.33.168.14] (port=47740 helo=mail.ru) by mx39.mail.ru with asmtp id 1IpoW3-000DfO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:16:35 +0300 Message-ID: <4731F2F3.6090409@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:16:35 +0000 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lf Possible I copy short trace from XKO at 5:26 (my SR 5:05) http://ra3yo.narod.ru/br00515.jpg Dmitry http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB101-ad7472ca67216b; 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Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:48:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103164824603.936E91C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:48:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' 503 Khz cent freq . Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per qsb cycle ? G.. Nb , connect is enabled . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b66474547ce7d; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:12:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD028-b66474547ce7d; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:11:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv85j-0000Lr-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv85j-0000Li-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:23 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv85e-0001yl-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:11:22 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E403EA0B2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E673EA0E5 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474547B5.5040706@online.fr> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:11:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> In-Reply-To: <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Tonight WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren , I copy your beacon (good) 00:10 =3D> 02:35 K2ORS a =E9crit : > I will save the electricity! And moreover, like one says in France: they is good for planet ;-) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-afe474f2e482ac; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:25:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe474f2e482ac; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:25:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqss-0002wy-Kj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqss-0002wm-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:22 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqso-0001qX-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 84331 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 21:14:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=Q+ApA5KPaktHJsK0B5Oo7DUcA81vYU5HRuRDG7xs4vkW5G+IN3sr63jbvehVP4DQznVVIn1PwoTDXzXrdcKCqdAaRBbjGohCpAYceYASnJ32EPwhtLOqZt8Y3oJ50OPbmCHoGFfiZZ+8bsZDpMDbIzsZlA7liHYhgcOxiMNl6bM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.15.100 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:14:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4j55tPQVM1l6GeGiFvrw8hWqW3Oy0e2Mjm5nyEU6ZQSbKpNsoX9HiDwgIzxrx6w8V8lpnoO54A-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:14:56 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.142 Subject: LF: [500]: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Yes, it appears to be on 503.30 as of 2113z. I think that I have seen this before.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 29 November 2007 20:59 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f44742d6e5116; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:45:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD034-8f44742d6e5116; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:45:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuSPW-0001BE-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:41:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuSPV-0001B5-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:41:01 +0000 Received: from web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.220]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuSPT-00004s-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 34981 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=teN8Lv1/6pmpG6B94xDO3mJVVazpEM+XWx39agjY4cf1leuhnPPKu1YXu+oUzXwcwTx1L3SR6y9zk1y+veWe0/ZqZ+nJ+BRsVENN77AB0gUCcyuNFFwLLxYKeVEioJty9LwoJoZN3XsYOqO33CqZtGIPMQkNUxEKz4fzrA8KUQk=; X-YMail-OSG: BS3JB34VM1kCaJyTlh_Doo4pwCav9j_ZwvKGsoqx85Qk9OeQh53ZTpjq4OdFGYvYrd7sSjF3ZRDfp8pDfm7ilQDEnd_ujeWum5z7yCkCE3EwtXM8 Received: from [78.150.152.121] by web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:40:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <424160.33754.qm@web26009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: re 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks John it's a great service you provide for us, very useful. I have completed building my 500 TX and now its just the Antenna to tune up, weather and family permitting - maybe this weekend! Mike, G3GMS IO95GB Message reads: Hello LF, I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! The new URL is: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk The grabber is at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change the page to announce a move of location. Regards. John GM4SLV ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-a314732d55e1af; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:22:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG093-a314732d55e1af; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:22:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq3ac-0000HX-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq3ac-0000HO-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq3aZ-0004hN-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:22:18 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.96) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D002BD4A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:21:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c821e8$cce9c1e0$60ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:21:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: qrm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all What is the clicking and scratching noise on the cw end of 80m. It was vy strong last nite. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-a7c4731c7a4188; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:11:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c4731c7a4188; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:11:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iplcu-00058l-Rb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iplcu-00058c-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iplcr-0007fK-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:28 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA7EA6Xh016016 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:40:06 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA7E9dbL006666 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA7E9dVj005402; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:39 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC07 and 2200m Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF Group, Jim Dean, VE3IQ has reported that the amateur 2200m proposal has been passed by Committee 4 this morning. This is good news for those of us who are not currently authorised to transmit on this band. The next step is the plenary approval for which we must keep our fingers crossed! Jim would like to have final reports from those Canadian amateurs who were granted experimental authorisation on the band. Without intending to preclude individual submissions, it would also be a good idea to have a combined report from all Canadian experimenters. I will be more than happy to spearhead this operation and will be most grateful for any submissions or suggestions. The report will be used by Jim during the consultation process in Canada for a domestic 2200m band, should it be approved at the WRC. Thanks and 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA101-8d64745444d36c; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:56:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA108-8d64745444d36c; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv7qe-0000Dz-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv7qd-0000Dp-W1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv7qZ-0001vc-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220503EA129 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA53EA127 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:55:42 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.138 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : VO1NA : trace at 06:00 utc ( first dash ! synchro ok , frequency ok , duration 9mn ok ) see 141.jpg picture The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a7a4741695c8c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:45:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a4741695c8c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:45:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu47g-0006OH-8A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:45:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu47f-0006O8-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:44:59 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu47c-0001WE-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:44:59 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:50 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:44:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 10:44:49.0947 (UTC) FILETIME=[35B4E6B0:01C82A99] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.203,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82AA1.94858A20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82AA1.94858A20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 but who? henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82AA1.948710C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z=20 qrs3
but who?
henny pa3cpm
jo22mb
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from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF6AF9000043 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.228]) by mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9A55B900008E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105125250632.9A55B900008E@mwinf3207.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:53:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.089 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like=20 a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to=20 get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally=20 measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a=20 issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the= =20 leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under= =20 the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007=20 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ae9474a2f34378; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB097-ae9474a2f34378; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:28:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwTfh-0000QS-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwTfg-0000QJ-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:04 +0000 Received: from webmail15.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwTfd-0000RG-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:26:04 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail15) by mail.yandex.ru id S316108AbXKZCZs convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.206] ([85.141.88.206]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000260747633 References: 1650000000260747633 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <27041196043948@webmail15.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:25:48 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Mike! Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. What's time your was in the air? 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the=20 > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out=20 > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver and=20 > power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system and=20 > am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am happy=20 > that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C9 – =ED=CE=CF=C7=CF =C6=CF=D4=CF=CB=20= =CE=C5 =C2=D9=D7=C1=C5=D4 http://fotki.yandex.ru/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8b6472e004014; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b6472e004014; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:24:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IojCZ-0001z2-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IojCZ-0001yt-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IojCS-0005y9-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:23:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CDD1B7000084 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:23:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A2A097000083 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:23:44 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104172344666.A2A097000083@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002001c81f07$8007b500$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> <004301c81ed0$8c7ecc10$56ebfc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:23:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.091 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : .... you start to see the disenchantment caused by by the path of 'non linearity' , as steam gave way to sail , mark/space has given way to multiplex ..... G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > The appliance operators of today could not handle SPARK nor have they > heard > about such things as crystal sets. > You have obviously picked up an old comic !!!!!!!!!!!! or you are older > than > you think. > > Mal/G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > >> > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother > with >> > a mode that noone else bothers about. >> >> Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. >> >> John Andrews, W1TAG >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b5c472e13b123f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:47:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c472e13b123f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:47:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IokUu-0002yW-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:47:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IokUt-0002yN-Kx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:46:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IokUr-0006K2-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:46:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C881DA4D8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:46:48 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104184648.5d4f4a35@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.044,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO (should be GW4HXO) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:26:31 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi Mike, LF, > > Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. > > See capture. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Hi Gary, Mike & LF, It's been good here for the last several hours. I could read it by ear at 15:10 which is before local sunset. Despite several attempts at around 16:00 Mike couldn't hear me, so no QSO possible. His beacon is now peaking S-7 on the S-meter of my IC718. Regards, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-9724739f75a29f; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:13:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF078-9724739f75a29f; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is1AR-0001Mb-4N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is1AQ-0001MS-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:22 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is1AM-0002EC-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:22 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071113191111.EVGC26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:11 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071113191111.DYA17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:11 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:11:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4739F6C8.22972.596A88@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136k beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Last night my beacon lasted less than one callsign when one of my cild flashed over. This is exactly why I did a brief evening test before leaving it on overnight. I will try again this evening (13th) for a few hours using QRSS60 on 136.3187kHz. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-943472f2b2a58; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF021-943472f2b2a58; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip36w-0000OE-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip36v-0000O5-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:29 +0000 Received: from kane.otenet.gr ([195.170.0.77] ident=OTEnet-mail-system) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip36r-0006k3-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:29 +0000 Received: from [85.72.89.255] (athedsl-316001.home.otenet.gr [85.72.89.255]) (authenticated bits=0) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lA5Ed3GN017571 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:39:04 +0200 Message-ID: <472F2B01.1010909@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:38:57 +0200 From: Alex Deligiannis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for >500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at >180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, >let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see >who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers >of e-mails separately > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > Hi, A copy please. Thank you Alex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-198473a397e1c9; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB48-198473a397e1c9; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:55:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is5bC-0001lD-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is5bC-0001l4-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is5b8-000629-UA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:55:18 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c9e.1a3903ca (52331) for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from AmiloMarkus (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD049-cc6b473a3942274; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:54:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation both=20= indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else notice= d this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modula= tion=20 both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone=20 else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82650.8E56EE00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8a1472ca0b12a8; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:24:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472ca0b12a8; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:24:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLn6-0004LJ-Vl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLn6-0004LA-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoLn3-0003b2-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:24:08 +0000 X-Trace: 621564167-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAc9LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 16:23:58 +0000 Message-ID: <00d001c81e35$ea61d840$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:23:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.207 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Graham & LF, I am using TrueTTY which has that feature, sorry if it is not compatible with most other decoders, I will go to 85 Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test >> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii ... > > G .. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM > Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > > >> Hi All, >> >> By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz >> shift. >> >> Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. >> >> Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. >> >> Reports welcome. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB11-c9473f74f822; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:11:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB21-c9473f74f822; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:10:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWnm-0006od-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItWnl-0006oU-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:13 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItWni-0006Y1-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 50577 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 23:10:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gygYnWqozKwNH7mX+Vf/eYMSxOSU8jN2YEsjOCYLeyCP6/+FTdA/+N2tTMWaKMzVTxQg/SC2zcDQHz7z57HYGPKS8StLSG5Leojj6NEQQVpGuMQ90OjwkCT4j+Ov/QzOQomPLgsf9G2fn7Jg7utqVIp5pGLq4GM5cu8Fy5RHkbM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.65.144 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 23:10:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HFqT5gMVM1l9ZyU67wZcmdwnz4d_XsXYTjvx3YuTmMr3rwvgUB3t5wxRWdAd_fhTgUWKI0mJpA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.16.0/1135]); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:15 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Jay, LF Group, Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts > WE2XGR/2 will begin operating tonight at 2200Z...listening for callsigns for the first half of each > hour (2200-2230Z for example) and will transmit 'WE2XGR/2' during the second half of each hour > (2230-0000Z for example). I'll check the 'DX window' during receive periods. Finbar has staked out > 501.3 and Mal has 502.5 kHz and if you have a favorite frequency please let me know. XGR/2 will > remain on 506.5 kHz. If it looks like a QSO might be possible send me an e mail and we can break > away from the schedule. I don't check e mails once a QSO has begun. > > There might be some advantage to shorter time segments (10 or 15 minutes perhaps) but this is just a > starting point. Comments would be appreciated. I'll remain on this schedule until 0200Z...later if > anyone is still awake, interested and if propagation is favorable. Any and all reception reports are > appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD062-9044729b249155; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:02:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044729b249155; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:02:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InXo4-00084Y-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InXo4-00084P-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InXnz-0001fP-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:01:48 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A56C000349A32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:01:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4729B212.4070906@telia.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:01:38 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <005b01c81b4f$86ad4d90$0d00000a@AGB> <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_PLING=0.461 Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2 ... looking for !!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, 1. Go to http://www.elfa.se 2. Click the Union Jack 3. In the left side menu, navigate to Resistors->Potentiometers-> Trimmers, single-turn->trimmer, type PTC-10->4.7k. This one has a Cermet track and 5x10mm footprint. 73 Johan SM6LKM Graham skrev: > So far no good , > > Im trying to locate qty 2 (better 4) cermet trimer pot's , top adj , > value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame , pcb mount , pin space , 5 > mm x 10 mm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac94731c44c3c8; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:57:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94731c44c3c8; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IplOE-0004x1-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IplOD-0004ws-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:17 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IplO9-0006OK-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:56:17 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CCB3EA0F5 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA15E3EA0BA for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C3E0.2070408@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:55:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe, Indeed not of trace of =93spurius=94 this night , I think that it is because= of the utisation of two RX of only one antenna ! This night I used a single turn loop (dia 1.80 m) on the 189kHz the K9AY on the 137 Khz . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you for the captures. I looked carefully and could see > no trace of the signals unfortunately. > > The TX will remain in operation. > > 73 > Joe > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> On 189,9498 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC34-6dd473661fd25f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:59:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC63-6dd473661fd25f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir264-0006yT-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir263-0006yK-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:47 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir25z-0001LM-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:47 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id BCFs1Y0050SCNGk0009x00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BDyW1Y0073tmwjw0000000; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:32 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=bJqdDMp1AAAA:8 a=GSgJhLL7MwXdR78TUugA:9 a=ACB0LrZFHBkRgKSEertyit8UvpQA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:58:44 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, ING was within ground-wave range, and used to be easily audible here when it was on. Just had a listen (0130z-ish) and nada. Main significant carrier was from R1 (QC), no ING at 276. 274 was clear so if there were any lsb mod to be heard it would have been plain. I'll have a listen in daylight tomorrow. However, that said, unless it has *just* started, or is so pathetically wimpy now I can't hear it at 60 miles away (to be fair there are a couple like that, IUB 404 and DYL 237 spring to mind, but they're both very sad creatures), it wasn't to be found when I did a daylight sweep from a nearby quiet site testing out a mobile setup a couple of weeks ago. Will get back to you. Cheers, Steve Steve McDonald wrote: > Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new > location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other > east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to > check 275's USB and see if it really is back. > > Steve / VE7SL > > >> Hi Steve, >> >> ING 275 >> >> It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at >> one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve >> >> >> http://www.w3eee.com >> >> Steve McDonald wrote: >>> I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that > could >>> give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is >>> on-the-air. >>> >>> Steve / VE7SL >>> >>> Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8c947459b77f7; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c947459b77f7; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDfF-0001sN-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDfE-0001sE-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDfA-0003od-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fqpc1Y00A0cQ2SL0A00w00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:16 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fr8A1Y00V2Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:08:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oDPoW6VQCmGCeANU8ckA:9 a=VTjQ-HE6s790NEIQglcfFSYTftoA:4 a=uVawpVqKyvgA:10 Message-ID: <80943D1A686B4FB99DAF92D5CDC77E7B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.140 Subject: LF: Propogation Report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thanks to Alan G3NYK for updating the LF propagation report! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8e14729e4113a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:35:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14729e4113a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:34:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inb7t-0000Bw-08 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inb7s-0000Bm-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:28 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inb7q-0006YT-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:28 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C9CDA4D8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:33:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:32:41 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > > >>>>..... No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a > >>>>signal! .....<<<< > 'Steady on old boy', J , On the contrary, we can all radiate > signals. its just that the receiving stations are in the wrong > place's , Hello Graham, LF, Well...yes I suppose we can all radiate something! A VFO connected to a piece of wet string will radiate. I've just turned on an old AR88D in my office (under the desk - keeps the feet warm) and to find the start of 40m on its old dial I turned on a sig. gen in the workshop, stuck 2" of solder in the o/p connector, returned to the office, found my marker signal.... However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you want to work what you hear you must approach reciprosity of ERP, considerations of local noise floors aside. I'm sure you understans that I meant : "No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal... of sufficient strength to reach the desired location" My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease. The reason for the disparity is that he isn't radiating enough ERP to make his signal heard at distance. Given that Dave's chosen mode is CW then we can discount the fancy DSP datamodes and notions of negative S/N ratios. If his (and mine too) ground losses are high then to get enough current flowing in the antenna he'll need more TX power, not a new house! My point was not to say "we need more ERP to make this work" (although I happen to think that we do....) it was to say "if your antenna system is inefficient you can still achieve the necessary, modest, ERP by compensating with more TX power". We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so. As you and everyone else will know, it's simple to get "lots" of power on 500kHz. By "lots" I mean > 100W, which is "lots" to QRPers like Dave and myself. My TX uses 3 active devices (discounting the external VFO). A divider to get 500kHz from 8MHz VFO, a MOSFET gate drive chip (TC4427 ?) and a single IRF150. At 30V DC supply to the FET it produces 140W. This is adequate to get 100mW ERP (just) from a simple 10m vertical wire. With more capacity/height I can happily turn down the wick. I can get my 100mW quota with my current antenna with about 25W TX power but I have power in hand if necessary - eg alternative antennas or if (fingers crossed) we get a power increase from OFCOM. There doesn't seem much point in complaining that you can't get out when the answer is easy enough, and shouldn't involve the drastic step of moving house! Cheers all, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA103-a53474f28aa79; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:01:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a53474f28aa79; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:01:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqVD-0002bN-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqVD-0002bE-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxqV9-0004ed-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 X-Trace: 632861612-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJe3TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 20:59:30 +0000 Message-ID: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:59:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b5a4732240f2be; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:46:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4732240f2be; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:46:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IprlY-0006bD-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IprlX-0006b4-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:47 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IprlU-0005J9-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:44:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 74360 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 19:44:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=Kgv9Fdj5uxMYvMSaVsdqIJHjfVdn4iBDcX7JAuuoJp41F2eqqbwOsknfEswcM1dbd6zwaP/LsQmXXUZC01O3l34+x1IRqCuNm/Tvqp6/XLEv7gPx6+BqbDMb/YGvBgaAy53LCoAbgjWODMLmfO6hgM0t2Ao0HraIgKm4Sx6OMCE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.202.69 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2007 19:44:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0zUCjqIVM1knLzms.OMumuNu1X2xoZZ9xG26fhUy18PwUsEfzFppakQFC._cokGmVwWC3PQsiOj_sTNoCZxQ4REkffBn54f_63Yq7sqF9Kwk64Yf From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:44:39 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001c01c82162$6b0cc610$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] G3ZWH - report Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, G3ZWH copied here 559 calling CQ on 501.450 CW (QRZ.com shows location is Snodland, Kent) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C82176.A244E220-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-11c473ea6051d5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:27:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC44-11c473ea6051d5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:27:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItJ1g-0003zy-4l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItJ1f-0003zp-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItJ1d-0000RS-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:39 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F9FDA4D9 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:28 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 2nd QSO G14DPE / WE2XGR/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:01:12 -0500 "Jay Rusgrove" wrote: > Just completed another QSO with Finbar. Congratulations again both Finbar & Jay, I also heard the WE2XGR/2 beacon on 506.5 fading up and down at the noise floor at around 2330-0000z last night. Very weak but readable in peaks of QSB. Well done. -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB24-17e472a62b3398; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:35:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB22-17e472a62b3398; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:35:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InjYQ-0002Ge-8W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InjYP-0002GV-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:25 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InjYM-0000pe-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 76637 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 23:34:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=dnzfT6qN09cSawwTm1HteIT1RCf5XMTHlRKIN8SnECoKBuN5vD0Ub9inRMy9XztDF+BYf5ouxiVVFsBxz2Qzh95aijFpnV5pMyFxRM70geyCRFxyig8ktluRbC4X+aWmRiaOfz4JPcxn3n1QfyRTCJFU0JwBtZ494JB0NkmpKww= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.41.144 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 23:34:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Aky713cVM1kfEsVTG3_89zcJqmw37.ffC_umgiNJLWoDM4lbwVoWjNmTJYXDZuoYjoKUi1.DUA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.17/1103]); Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:32:40 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:32:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Chris, Graham, LF Group, Thanks to G3XIZ earlier this evening for a nice RTTY QSO on 503.5kHz. I used MMTTY with 85Hz shift, and everything worked fine - mind you, Chris is not far from me, and is a good 599 signal. I am currently (2310utc) sending some test calls on 503.5kHz in PSK31 using G3PLX's Windows software - any reports/QSOs welcome. > Hi Jim, > > > > Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? > > > > As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , looks > like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty has > that option > The driver is an IC 718 transmitting on 4.50x MHz in LSB mode, connected to the PC sound card in the usual way for data operation. So the bandwidth is about 2.7kHz, although I would not want to use it all! The HF output is mixed down to 500 kHz with a 4MHz crystal, and also fed to a simple diode envelope detector to recover the modulation envelope. The 500kHz output is filtered and amplified linearly to about +13dBm, then applied to a limiting amplifier to give a square wave "clock" signal for the class D output stage with the amplitude modulation stripped off, but retaining the frequency and phase information. The envelope detector output is used as a reference voltage for a series regulator feeding the DC power to the class D PA, so the DC supply voltage is modulated with the envelope of the original signal. The result is the output of the class D PA looking pretty close to the original modulated signal. On receive, the signal path is reversed, and the incoming signal mixed up to 4.5MHz for reception by the IC718. I have been looking at the software on NL9222's extensive download site, there seems to be a number of feasible modes there that might be worth trying - I will try installing some over the next few days. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-1db472f911a31; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:55:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC55-1db472f911a31; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:54:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9tS-0000aE-Il for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9tR-0000a5-O1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:01 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip9tR-0002oM-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:54:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 4602 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 21:53:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OtE0hLAG2M3wfYQFb2RjVzfU/j/ufQZCtftiZrSKF46o010+TZ1ikmRccSZCLOQ9ZTjkfGzFRhNt/29sAvk6XcSmt+6cZMZWyHaXW213CDqIXEdLryg6+IbkJYPb0UuqcE+oXdl4PwCvU3PyFX+BdflcLFyazpqXnOe5ArNDnNE=; X-YMail-OSG: 4RtmqNkVM1lvmaH0IOrx3gpxT7zzOPZc75FN2SV8BRwjB0WNRVmSJfEvHZES.yFVuK2NtqUhr5OYAvxA5MKy_06LUP2lm0W8ej4EQg5mqQ-- Received: from [81.152.21.87] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:53:55 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:53:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter March To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005401c81fca$ba228b20$0d00000a@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <354936.131.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter uk500 kz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-37709901-1194299635=:131" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-37709901-1194299635=:131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for your great contribution Jim. A good idea Graham That is the big advantage of the UK500khz forum in that archived stuff can be available to users at any time in the file and picture archive. Too bad the RSGB reflector does not have this facility, a big body of work could have been built up over the years. This would allow new comers and regulars alike the opportinity to browse the history of the LF Art. Although I think the Blacksheep application may have some archive facility, it seems never to have been invoked by the "webmaster" and if I read it correctly its a bit user unfriendly anyway a bit DOSish.So why not migrate to a newer user friendly system, Google Uk500khz. Also it has the advantage of compartmetalising the discussion Threads. Another valuable resource for browsing back over time on a given subject. Just a plug for what I think would take this discussion group forward into 21st century along with the EER PA technology. I will now duck below the parapit once again. Vy 73 to all LF de petefmt Graham wrote: Jim, You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. --0-37709901-1194299635=:131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks for your great contribution Jim.
 
A good idea Graham
That is the big advantage of the UK500khz forum in that archived stuff can be available to users at any time in the file and picture archive. Too bad the RSGB reflector does not have this facility,  a big body of work could have been built up over the years. This would allow new comers and regulars alike the opportinity to browse the history of the LF Art. Although I think the Blacksheep application may have some archive facility, it seems never to have been invoked by the "webmaster" and if I read it correctly its a bit user unfriendly anyway a bit DOSish.So why not migrate to a newer user friendly system,  Google Uk500khz. Also it has the advantage of compartmetalising the discussion Threads. Another valuable resource for browsing back over time on a given subject.
Just a plug for what I think would take this discussion group forward into 21st century along with the EER PA technology.
I will now duck below the parapit once again. Vy 73 to all LF de petefmt

Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Jim,

You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be
better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for
> 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at
> 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy,
> let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to
> see
> who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers
> of e-mails separately
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:
> 11/2/2007 21:46
>
>




Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. --0-37709901-1194299635=:131-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-94a474eb3b01a1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF028-94a474eb3b01a1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixiia-0001qB-Sm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixiia-0001q2-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxiiW-0000a7-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JcTL1Y0030Fqzac0500g00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:02 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jci21Y0041pKLLP0300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:02 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YCAETsNkAAAA:8 a=G0B7nfMGOrMpOY_tpmoA:9 a=lehfpxoaezkice_iSFMA:7 a=-AENdSTdQh5fSm1WYI7E7zSWfKUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=owhbxUb_RjYA:10 Message-ID: <002d01c83285$3d649420$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> <000601c83283$0c6f8980$0b01a8c0@weazle> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:42:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? J.B. To be effective as a directional receive antenna it must be a minimum of a couple wavelengths long. A 'short' version will need to be evaluated at an appropriately higher frequency. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question > Hi Kevin, Mike, LFers, > > Thanks for the replies/suggestions regarding my antenna question. > If I was to make use of the entire fence-line, I could have a very- > very long wire/beverage of about 3/4 of a mile or so. I'll try a > short version for starters to see what happens. It's orientation > will be good for Europe and the N E of the US and Canada. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 > EN93dr > > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-92a4739d8a0210; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:02:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a4739d8a0210; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:02:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz9R-0000tk-2O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz9Q-0000ta-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:12 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irz9M-0006TC-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:02:12 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6AADA4D6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:58 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071113170158.682a4726@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.040,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:50:49 +0100 "John RABSON" wrote: > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or > EIRP? > Hello LF, John The limit for the UK is 0.1W ERP Paltry I know...! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8b4472f2a9485; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b4472f2a9485; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:37:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34d-0000Ho-FK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip34c-0000Hc-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:07 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.225]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip34T-0002VT-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:04 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W24 ([207.46.11.187]) by bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:36:46 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 05:36:45 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:36:46.0030 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A8E26E0:01C81FB9] X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.752,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_" Subject: LF: XES et al X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the signals. Not= hing this morning I can see =20 - Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available =20 Laurence 9V1 LF http://kl1x.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotmai= lnews=3D --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John - now looking for you guys your pre dawn - thanks for the sign= als.  Nothing this morning I can see
 
- Grabber 1 will be used mostly as available
 
Laurence 9V1 LF
http://kl1x.com

 

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Try now! =3D --_36456b86-f658-450d-874f-b244126d6a0c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME084-9e34730225a25e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34730225a25e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpJZO-0006tN-Va for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpJZO-0006tD-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpJZM-0006xn-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3C7DA4D8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:49 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071106081349.251d0bc0@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000801c8200e$6bdbb150$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <000801c8200e$6bdbb150$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.041,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:46:08 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo OM Finbar! > Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz > was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. > I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! > My QSL will be direct to you. > =20 > GN and 73 > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 Congrtatulations Lubos and Finbar, I heard you Lubos call Finbar after we signed and Mike G3GMS also finished on 80m crossband. You were a good signal here on 80m too Lubos. I wonder if you were copying any of my transmissions and whether we could also have had a cross-band QSO? Well done both. Cheers, --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ab2473f7dea2c4; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:49:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB028-ab2473f7dea2c4; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:49:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItXP4-00075g-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItXP3-00075X-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItXP0-0002Ch-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E1E7440804C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4C240804C for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5C495B85 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1195343295.473f7dbfce6ad@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:15 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002f01c8296e$bbb98c60$90417ad5@w4o8m9> <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071117232227.2232d9f2@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Quoting John Pumford-Green GM4SLV : > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:08:14 -0000 > "James Moritz" wrote: > > > Dear Jay, LF Group, > > > > Rather a lot of QRN here tonight - GI4DPE is quite strong and trying > > to call WE2XGR/6 at the moment (2304), and GW4HXO is going up and > > down in the QSB on 502kHz. Nothing seen/heard yet on 506.5kHz > > although DI2AM is quite strong a little lower in frequency. > > > > Conditions seem quite poor here tonight. > > Finbar fading between 599 and 549 > DI2AM the only Eu QRSS beacon visible > GW4HXO fading bewtween 439 and nil > > > Nothing on seen on grabber yet of WE2XGR/6 although Finbar reports > hearing him at 22:48 > > > Very strong QRN to make it even worse. > > Cheers, > > John GM4SLV > > > Up here conditions don't appear especially poor. Finbar is 579-599 DI2AM is normal for this hour, one other 505 beacon also audible Listening / watching on 506.5kHz has so far resulted in NIL, a not too surprising result but one has to try even the almost impossible... 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b46473c3fe034a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:47:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b46473c3fe034a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:47:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ise7j-0007bn-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ise7i-0007be-MU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ise7f-0001SV-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.bd9.218761b1 (39329) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:46:35 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195130795" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195130795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, May I also, respectfully, offer up the current implementations of Murphy's Law, Sod's Law and the Finagle Factor as further candidates for updating to take account of modern knowledge ? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK -------------------------------1195130795 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy,
 
May I also, respectfully, offer up the current implementations of Murph= y's=20 Law, Sod's Law and the Finagle Factor as further candidates for updating to=20= take=20 account of modern knowledge ?
 
 
 
73 de Pat=20 G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK
 <= /HTML> -------------------------------1195130795-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d6473630e529b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB68-6d6473630e529b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqypO-0006GV-De for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqypN-0006GM-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:21 +0000 Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqypJ-0008UP-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id B7Pw1Y0010vp7WL0109g00; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.114] ([76.99.151.180]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BAV31Y0013tmwjw0000000; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cRci-S3bAAAA:8 a=bJqdDMp1AAAA:8 a=BxXW7YhRJXydDUCZTFIA:9 a=roYR7arpHzUC9KrbR0In6F7t_Q8A:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:15 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, ING 275 It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. Cheers, Steve http://www.w3eee.com Steve McDonald wrote: > I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could > give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > on-the-air. > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-182472f7fff366; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB26-182472f7fff366; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:41:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8kr-0007dG-Gs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8kq-0007d7-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8ko-0003fy-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF16CDA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:40:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:40:24 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105204024.4ee9833e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -781: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:36 +0100 Michel F5WK wrote: > > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW > > ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the > > really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who > > can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > > John, > > I can barely copy your signal by ear right now at 20:30 UTC in a > 250 Hz bandwidth. > > > 73 / Michel f5wk JN18HP Thanks Michel! This is very good news! A distance of 1318km! Amazing. At 20:30 I am using 5W TX power. Estimated ERP is 25mW. That is a fantastic report! I will QSL direct for the SWL report. 73 de John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9d2473651fb2e3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:51:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME086-9d2473651fb2e3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:51:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir12P-0006j7-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir12O-0006iy-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:56 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir12K-0003W6-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:50:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0181EF88FA for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id R84jLXIN9fqa for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.116]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 521FB1EF88F8 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:50:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Steve - There is some speculation that it has been reactivated at a new location and I was 100% sure that I logged it the other night when other east-coasters were making it back here. I really need someone close to it to check 275's USB and see if it really is back. Steve / VE7SL > Hi Steve, > > ING 275 > > It is no more. I went physically looking for that one at > one point. Hasn't been on for quite a few years. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > http://www.w3eee.com > > Steve McDonald wrote: > > I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could > > give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is > > on-the-air. > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b27472e221524d; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:48:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27472e221524d; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:48:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolS3-0004GP-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolS2-0004GG-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:06 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolRz-0006ae-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:48:06 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:57 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c81f1b$8ff81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <001201c81f19$c2e7e540$08a3fea9@edgar1ew1re1zt> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:47:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2007 19:47:58.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[99877AB0:01C81F1B] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.258,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137-activity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tu ed, henny pa3cpm 73s ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dl2hre=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: LF: 137-activity Ge LF. 2day copy any time ago on 137.7KHz in qrss3-mode: DJ6GT, PA3CPM, F6BWO, S5= 7A, DK7SU. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C81F23.F1A5A3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA082-a66474060941e0; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:56:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA046-a66474060941e0; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:56:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmV7-00037t-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmV7-00037h-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmV3-0002Xh-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:56:01 +0000 X-Trace: 627655673-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALHuP0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:55:31 +0000 Message-ID: <010301c829fb$72810f90$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:55:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Dave, LF, Thank you for the report Dave, looks like the mode is working quite well at distance. A few are decoding it quite well now. Next, a 2 way QSO !! 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: RE: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Hi, Gary. > > Copying your 22/23Hz RTTYsigs here also. The G0MRF beaon is very strong at > this QTH, but you are 100% during the breaks in the G0MRF beacon. > I'm using WinWarbler (freeware), which works fine but is a bit "wide open" > and gets distracted by any other nearby transmissions. > > "G4WGT IO83QP TESTING", "JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG G4WGT G4WGT RYRYRYJ" > etc,etc. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 18 November 2007 15:09 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > > > Chris, LF, > > Thank you for the report, keep watching. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris McCarthy" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > > >> Gary, >> I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so >> far. Your about S3. >> Chris, G3XVL >> >> On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >>> >>> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >>> shift >>> over greater distances. >>> >>> I will appreciate any reports. >>> >>> The software I am using is MMTTY. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >>> >>> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a19472e7c9d30b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a19472e7c9d30b; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:14:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IorTf-0008PS-Fj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IorTd-0008PJ-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:09 +0000 Received: from rel106.mail.aue.yahoo.com ([124.108.96.113]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IorTY-0007pf-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:14:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 63878 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Nov 2007 02:13:40 -0000 Received: from 124.108.96.70 by rel106.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:13:40 -0800 Received: (qmail 18247 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 02:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sooby.xtra.co.nz) (bjhayes@xtra.co.nz@219.88.52.178 with login) by smtp101.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 02:13:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KWzxJHIVM1lR49DaDfhi2pzPV13S1tNiSXURgBgx5bK37dOFcNrVm76pwVMI86SFSg-- Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20071105130741.019c8570@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:38 +1300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary and LF Group, >There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF >operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its >frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 >this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? I used a IC706 MK2 as a LF signal source for several years [CW only]. The transmitter was operated at 18 odd MHz. with minimum power into a dummy load. This was followed by a couple of 7490's to divide by 100 [final frequency was 181.4 kHz.]. Note that there was no transverting, just simple division. Keying the 706 caused the fan to start and stop with a very minor observable frequency shift on the Argo display. With hindsight, I would leave the transmitter run all the time and key a later stage. I should also mention that I did not have a TCXO installed as they were unavailable by 2000. Overall, I was happy with the end result for transmitting. Receiving was a different story. The receiver was both deaf and full of birdies in the LF area. Some pre-amplification seems to have worked well for other 706 models but I would have only been amplifying the birdies. For receiving I used a basic converter ahead of the 706 [18 Mhz xtal osc.] and tuned on the 18 Mhz. band. This worked well. I have since "opened " up the 706 for general HF transmitting. If I decide to fire up in the 136 kHz area, then I would divide down from 13.6 Mhz. I cannot comment on 500 kHz. receiving performance but a dummy load transmitting test showed about 25 Watts output with a poor waveform which, no doubt, could be readily filtered. 73, Kevin [ZL4MD]. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-b5b472f2b3731e; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:40:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b472f2b3731e; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:39:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip37F-0000Pj-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip37E-0000PT-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip377-0002WR-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:39:46 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A60DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:39:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:37:34 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105143734.738631b7@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.160 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:29:01 +0000 "Andy Talbot" wrote: > Can you put me on the list please, Jim > > Me too Jim, Thanks, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ab047313ffe4a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:33:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab047313ffe4a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:33:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpcaK-0002Ha-LV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpcaK-0002HR-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpcaH-0006XB-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48394E60E2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pEDOnf++lfMh for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E14E60E1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:36:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:31:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c820f7$149020e0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV_this_morn Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C820FF.765488E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GM, John and ALL! I captured your signal this morning.It was audible 329 with long QSB. I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT. What ERP did you use this morn? GL and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C820FF.765488E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

GM, John and ALL!

I captured your signal this morning.It was audible= 329 with long QSB. I monitored frq 501.500kHz from 02:00 to 04:30UT and I saw your signal repeatedly, but the peak was around 03:00UT.=

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Lubos, OK2BVG

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(we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp109.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 01:10:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pwLarw8VM1ktA3kJN5j2zDw5fQmFaGc5FO6bgVfcdM846ofv3c4vHE3jnpoDNYXpDM33Xh05NtK1QuMFZgaS7HEAWW_71UnbCgH2.oOwzIMT4sLWq4Y- Message-ID: <4737A813.4040303@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:10:43 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 2 (High) References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: LF TX mod for TS-850 link... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Guys, I have been informed that the Feb '07 RadCom magazine has a link in it to my site for the low freq transmit mod for the Kenwood TS-850. It was written by Bob ZL2CA. That link is wrong. Here is the correct link on my site: http://www.we0h.us/Amateur_Radio_stuff/TS850/ It is a PDF document. Special thanks to Steve VE7SL for letting me know of the printed link in RadCom mag. There is a bunch of other useful info on my site also: http://www.we0h.us/Amateur_Radio_stuff/ http://www.we0h.us/505kc/ 73's Mike WE0H WD2XGI - 2200 & 1750 meters WD2XSH/16 - 600 meters From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC44-1bc4735cf56f3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC24-1bc4735cf56f3; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqsKv-0004fG-Ds for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqsKv-0004f7-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqsKr-0006OT-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:33:28 +0000 X-Trace: 624423390-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAINdNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 15:32:58 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071109-0, 09/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, As you probably know by now (because I have mentioned it often) I have quite a small back garden. I have continually strived to improve the LF/MF antenna with this limitation & to keep on the right side of Mrs T. The most recent "improvements" have been carried out & installed, latest details at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page19.html I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite promising. I have also revamped the appearence of my web site & updated some pages, please have a look & report any problems or make comments etc. Web site home page address at the bottom. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b5d4736ab592c0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:12:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d4736ab592c0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:12:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir6zW-0000Lg-2e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:12:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir6zV-0000LW-I1 for 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(helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IntPS-0004Ld-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0137.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.137] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IntPO-0006HA-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:49 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.10) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E002537AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:05:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:04:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: PAT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I cannot hear PAT this morning. Last time hrd it was using CW followed by a burst of the Zambesi tango. G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD081-8f8472da6472a0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:00:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD038-8f8472da6472a0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:00:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IodDE-0006wn-6a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IodDD-0006we-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IodDA-0008JA-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB86DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:00:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:00:06 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104110006.691f913f@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> <000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Gary and LF, I'm sorry I wasn't available last night to try some decoding tests myself. I saw the RTTY traces on the grabber as I was heading out for the evening. I will certainly put together a collection of captures from the night for you. Unfortunately there are no audio captures from last night. Conditions were good from what I saw at around 1700-1800 - I worked G3UNT, G3XIZ and (just... as I was being dragged from the house by XYL) G4GDR. The QRN levels were low enough to make it possible to copy some very weak CW by ear. I'll send you a zip file of screen captures for the period wou had the RTTY running once I've had a chance to sift through them Cheers, John On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:52:45 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Good Morning LF, > > My thanks to Graham - G0NBD, Jim - M0BMU & Dave - G3WCB for the very > interesting reports & comments regarding my narrow shift RTTY tests. > It looks quite likely that this mode could be competition for normal > CW QSO's at 20 wpm were RTTY 45 Bd gives the equivalent of 60 wpm > without taking too much bandwidth on a small band allocation ( 23 Hz > in this case). > > The findings have surprised me in such that I believed that the > narrow shift could be a problem but as Jim stated with a little care > tuning to the signal a very good percentage copy can be achieved. > > In Jims case the distance is 268 Km & Dave 274 Km. > > During the test I was also monitoring Johns (GM4SLV Shetland) grabber > IP90GG at 739 Km & Daves (G3YXM Birmingham) grabber IO92BK at 143 Km. > The traces there were such that at Birmingham the qsb periods between > dips were short & deep but at Shetland the QSB period between dips > was much longer & dips shallower maintaining a longer readable trace. > The traces after dark at Shetland were so strong that my RTTY signal > was producing a solid white line so in those terms we could expect > the narrow RTTY would have given a 100% copy. > > Perhaps John could send me or make available to some captures of last > night so I can include them on my web site at the next update, even > better if there were a sound bite available. > > Thanks to all for watching & reporting. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:35 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > > > > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > > > The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your > > test, up to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The > > upper trace is G0MRF's > > beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. > > As far as > > readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were > > printing out > > with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor > > on the spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with > > similar signal levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been > > comfortable audible CW copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are > > quite variable - For a short QSO of a couple of minutes, this > > wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would require standing by > > waiting for the signal level to build up after a fade - > > also rather like CW. > > > > I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be > > tuned quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and > > I found it was > > neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards > > G0MRF's CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal > > carriers was only 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth > > of the narrow RTTY looks quite similar to PSK31. > > > > Thanks for the test, > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-a84474edeac54; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:45:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a84474edeac54; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:45:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxlYr-00028g-BE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxlYq-00028X-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxlYn-0006aX-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:44:20 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lATFi7L1071416 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:44:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="response" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Joe, Why not use one of the fence wires? I have had excellent results doing so. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 541 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-9fe4745789746; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:40:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG028-9fe4745789746; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:39:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBJv-0000wW-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBJu-0000wN-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:14 +0000 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBJr-0007Us-9D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:14 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-13-46.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.13.46] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1IvBJk-000GNk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:38:05 +0000 Message-ID: <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:37:32 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) That made things so much clearer! Peter, G3LDO Laurence KL1X wrote: > > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > suggest you peruse.... > > > > http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf > > Laurence KL1 X > QTU 24 > > > > > > > > Hi all > > To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at > > times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what > MF QRG I > > am transmitting on > > I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX > freq to > > avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all > bands, the > > normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG > > otherwise I might not hear you. > > > > 73 De Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-889472ba2c422b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:21:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-889472ba2c422b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:20:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4sd-0007no-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4sc-0007nf-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:42 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4sY-0000ZI-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:42 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA2MJf8T024955 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:41 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA2MJebL020499 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:40 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA2MJeHB024134; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:40 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:49:39 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> Message-ID: References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Steve, John, Group. The LOA in this part of Canada granted 1 W ERP. If it gets reduced to EIRP, I'll have to run the Decca on 2 of its 3 PA's when we get the band! At least we'll be back on 2200m again. I wonder what the basis is for the HZ objection... 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b914736ebb32d0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:47:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD083-b914736ebb32d0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:47:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrBGL-0001MM-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrBGK-0001MD-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:00 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrBGF-0003nL-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:45:59 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lABBjiAj031101 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:44 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lABBjhbL000647 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lABBjhnS003873; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:15:43 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4736C142.4000204@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.402 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you JP for watching. I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! 73 Joe On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything!= ) > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-104474b316416d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:49:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104474b316416d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:49:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwkt6-0002M3-Ub for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwkt6-0002Lu-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:04 +0000 Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwkt2-0008F1-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:49:03 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HPej1Y00B17dt5G050lu00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:48:53 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HYoo1Y00g2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:48:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=HTYvB8hMWyf154xzEcAA:9 a=1_Pp7pYiGpbr72RKbN38zQogJwIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=dMqnuecAdt5J8tScWIcA:9 a=ogbTJm9sV0Of3eIXhQIA:7 a=FFuL2fodhyChT45S2WcxAgtQ_t0A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <1033F7D85CA34E69A69C4C9DB2B4C4DA@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:48:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henny, Thank you for the capture! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg capture xgj 0:35z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0231_01C83043.CFA9E860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-90f475082a2286; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:37:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD067-90f475082a2286; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:37:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDWq-00056Y-7o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyDWp-00056P-LQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:07 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyDWl-0006IK-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 21964 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 21:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 21:08:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yYFU7iIVM1lODdC1I.QdcZ.iVCetUKHoY.8.SJotrLmZ1MqkT...KGB68ZdRZiqKUcsuBr6LFXPix0OPigsStvwk1PYwGF5XLHh8xbC_BqAh.8Qc From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:08:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <47507BDE.7961.34160B@dave.davesergeant.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500]ARRL Letter reports on transatlantic QSOs Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The following has just appeared in today's ARRL Letter: * 500 kHz Experiment Charting New Territory: The evening of November 13 saw the first transatlantic contact on 500 kHz between amateur experimental stations. US experimental station WE2XGR/2 (Jay Rusgrove, W1VD, in Connecticut) and GI4DPE (Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF, in Northern Ireland) communicated by standard-speed CW for about 15 minutes. On that same night, US experimental stations WD2XSH/12 (Mike Mussler, AI8Z, in Colorado) and WD2XSH/20 (Rudy Severns, N6LF, in Oregon) made the first contact in the western half of the USA. Two days later, WE2XGR/2 and GI4DPE repeated their feat and WD2XSH/12 had contacts with WD2XSH/6 (Pat Hamel, W5THT, in Mississippi) and WD2XSH/13 (John Oehlenschlager, K0JO, in Minnesota). The ARRL 500 kHz experimental license, WD2XSH, was issued in September 2006 and has 19 active stations. Fritz Raab, W1FR, of Vermont, serves as experimental project manager for The 500 KC Experimental Group for Amateur Radio . (No mention of the crossband QSOs between VE1ZZ and the UK though). 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b0b4746fecb20a; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:25:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b4746fecb20a; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:24:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbKO-0004HT-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbKN-0004HK-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:27 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvbKK-0006Jp-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:27 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:17 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c82ded$456d9e10$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2007 16:24:16.0347 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AADEAB0:01C82DED] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2311.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C82DF5.A6E8A100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100" ------=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj=20 time:11:45z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_001B_01C82DF5.A6E8A100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000257493003 References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> 1650000000257493003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <18761195523930@webmail24.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:58:50 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: USB soundcards Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? HI Peter! One friend of mine use a 8 USB sound cards on his desktop at once. Not for Q= RSS, of course.=20 He was monitored air-channels. I'm buy for him low cost creative and no-name OEM sound card last year in mo= scow.=20 The creative 5.1 was more prefer he said. I'm don't find a links for thats usb SB. I think no more thats models in sto= ck here.-( 20.11.07, 00:27, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk): > Hi Peter, > I have 2 sound cards in my desktop PC, one is the motherboard sound card a= =20 > Realtek AC97 basic features & a PCI sound card cheap & basic C-Media 8738.= =20 > Both these cards work very well for use with the mentioned software. > 73 > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:11 PM > Subject: LF: USB soundcards > Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS > signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc. > Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 > sound card > Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster > Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or hav= e > I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. > Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. > regards > peter G8AFN > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft Windows and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB "=EC=C0=C2=C9=CD=D9=C5 =D7=C5=DD=C9": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=CB=D5=D2=D3=20= =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8 http://fotki.yandex.ru/contest.= xml?id=3D11 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b1a4734e2f9355; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:45:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC046-b1a4734e2f9355; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:45:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqcap-0001X5-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqcao-0001Ww-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqcal-0007oD-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:44:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C13EA0C4 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:44:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1A23EA0C0 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:44:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4734E2DE.8020109@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:44:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ ,WD2XNS , WD2XKO now ! 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1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XBAND 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Xband 500/3533 khz started some time back when there was a request from some EU stns to enable them to have a qso using this method. Their choice happened to be 3533 at the time and it seems to have stuck. I added 7033 for the longer haul stns and that also seems to work satisfactory. Since then I often hear EU stns calling CQ QSX 500 or CQ MF and I respond to them when I am about. This procedure has also been going on for years on 137 khz especially 7033 khz for W and VE contacts during night time. These frequencies have been established plus/minus qrm so one searches around the freq. There is no ideal freq and somer QRM is unavoidable. The GI stations seem to favour 3545 khz. The bad QRM heard recently from a sounder around 3533 khz seems to have gone for now. Stations heard calling xband are DL, SM, LA, G, EI, SV, OK, OM, OH, I1, YU, UA1, SP, F and VE1. There are probably others as well, there is more interest than you think concerning 500 khz and xband is the only way to get a qso at present. I have heard EU stns calling G stns without results. Any HF freq would suit me, I am geared up for all bands xband or direct qso's, I am also vfo on 500 for flexibility, but I will stick to established procedures for now, except someone has a better idea. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9fc474c3a8570; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:41:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc474c3a8570; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:40:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix2Wv-00051z-0b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix2Wu-00051q-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout0146.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.146] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix2Wr-00009k-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:20 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A004B04EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:06 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,c63137cb4f54cb26,d075a6d75c0c519c,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3351:3636:3690:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:38:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n All Since the unusually good condx a couple of weeks ago the band has reverted back to normal. I have not heard Uncle Sams boys. since then and I dont suppose they have heard me. When condx on 500 are normal it is hard to make any impression with a QRP station. When propagation is exceptionally good then the proberbial wet string and a handful of microwatts will achieve miracles. EU reports are all well down at present, S1 seems good along with the QSB disappearing tricks. !! 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9b7472f4fb3365; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME053-9b7472f4fb3365; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5Xr-0003dj-JU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5Xr-0003dZ-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:27 +0000 Received: from web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip5Xq-0003J5-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 16979 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 17:15:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aaTSiuY4NgXpnLlTGF0KOLnqyBFRRgd11eHD5OzSwlOPHlkouQP/eoxokqh0YdlNLB5GJikgIem6jDH+auF9ycSJk73Yh/OGBIrfb0mYZOw6E2un3iQ7i2ULOQ6/9Gom8773ouE2rRZ8fIKCd633juTWmeK8Z+ugzjzwJLsMHBs=; X-YMail-OSG: p4OBOxAVM1lRz1lWoNYq8tT5wJA8337NUtLOWl6bfe2ScLIQqLXES1gAD7W2A4BiUwiiITK3zZf6ZM.X_s2sZ4gXC4pSKq6wO46lEQ57oGXUGUckqxmIqPdoAW0- Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:15:20 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:15:20 +0000 (GMT) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <648559.16158.qm@web25403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-668179329-1194282920=:16158" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes please Jim - 73 Brian James Moritz wrote: Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes please Jim - 73 Brian

James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear LF Group,

I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for
500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at
180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy,
let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see
who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers
of e-mails separately

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. --0-668179329-1194282920=:16158-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-9754735784f161; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:22:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF083-9754735784f161; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:22:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqmXY-0003kn-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqmXY-0003ke-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:08 +0000 Received: from cas-mta3-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.28] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqmXU-0002Hk-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:22:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter2.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.69]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54C4010; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.28]) by localhost (cas-filter2.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id pLBS-3FUH5Hy; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from crazypeecee.casema.nl (5354976F.cable.casema.nl [83.84.151.111]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBE33ECB; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:21:56 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:22:34 +0100 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Cc: "W.F. Oorschot" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071110092156.CBBE33ECB@mta-fe.casema.nl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Fwd: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_8763125==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --=====================_8763125==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Good news! Joe means above 200 metres of course. 73, Dick, PA0SE >Dear Group, > >Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, >we get an allocation below 200 metres. > >See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ > >for more info. > >73 >Joe VO1NA --=====================_8763125==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Good news!

Joe means above 200 metres of course.

73, Dick, PA0SE


Dear Group,

Good news from Geneva:  For the first time ever,
we get an allocation below 200 metres.

See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/

for more info.

73
Joe VO1NA
--=====================_8763125==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-9f54730bd991fe; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:17:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG017-9f54730bd991fe; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:16:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpTtw-0000Tr-Mj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpTtw-0000Ti-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.148] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpTts-0006HV-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:52 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.53) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00298363 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c820a9$69baa2a0$35e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DX/VE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in VE. There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband 3533 and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. The mode is CW De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-9104731929058; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:25:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104731929058; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:25:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipi5F-0003oa-VP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipi5F-0003oR-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipi5B-0005Ge-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:24:29 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA7AOEY7009250 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:14 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA7AOEbL029822 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:14 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA7AODKT031531; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:13 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:54:13 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47317A3A.6070401@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you for the captures. I looked carefully and could see no trace of the signals unfortunately. The TX will remain in operation. 73 Joe On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a58472b5e0ef4; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:28:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a58472b5e0ef4; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:27:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Io-0005ym-5r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0In-0005yd-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:25 +0000 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0Ik-0004pK-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:25 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Io0Ij-00020y-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:21 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:27:07 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgdOD7b9fu4DuKXTNSDHNAThN/89gAGMquQ In-Reply-To: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz NoV Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Following some excellent x-band QSOs by some NoV holders I've been asked if clarification can be given as to whether this is appropriate given the a particular clause in the 500kHz NoV's Terms & Conditions. This issue is that clause h) in the NoV states that "This Notice of Variation is restricted for the Research for which it is issued and does not apply to routine messages and signals for which the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence shall apply." I've checked with Ofcom and the position is that a standard Special Research Permit NoV was used for issuing 500kHz NoVs and that therefore contained the clause h) wording. This clause is really meant to cover conditions that might apply when, for example, an SRP NoV is issued to allow a power level of 32dBW for EME experiments on a stated band/frequency. Such an NoV is issued for that purpose and does not give blanket permission to run that power level on any other bands, when "... the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence shall apply" Thus, for 500kHz operating the T&Cs of the SRP NoV must be observed for that band only and it does not "vary" the T&Cs of Section 2 of the licence which allows operation on bands stated in the appropriate schedule. If my explanation above isn't entirely clear, the simple answer is that doing x-band QSOs is OK as long as they are in someway related to the "research" on which you sought your NoV. Thus, for 99.9% of cases it is unlikely to be an issue. I trust that our overseas friends are also content with that this little piece of British bureaucracy makes their involvement "legal" depending of course on the small print in their licence! 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae1472b9fef36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:09:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae1472b9fef36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:08:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4gd-0007fK-4R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4gc-0007fB-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:18 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4gZ-000866-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:08:18 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 617141C0008F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:08:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 383721C0008E for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:08:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102220810230.383721C0008E@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:08:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: psk31 on 503 CHANGE OF MODE Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : As the band is little empty , Ive changed mode to 110 Baud HF Packet , tone= =20 center frequency 503 khz , Im using Multipsk , latest version , tone freq=20 , center 2khz , tx , usb 501 Kz short data burst , 10 second prf, be intrested to see if it prints , and if= =20 so how many in a qsb cycle ? Tnx Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Graham" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: LF: Re: psk31 on 503 Ok Brian, Thanks for that , that looks about par for the course hihi , can not get to outside london , but printing well at 500 miles ... Thanks for the report, Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Brian gm4jyb" To: "LF reflector" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: LF: psk31 on 503 > 20:50hrs > Just copied the following on 503kHz:-- > > CQ CQ CQ DE...gEnbd g0nbd g0nbd CQO=A6 CQ -E...g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd CQ CQ= =20 > CQ DE...g0nbd g0nbd ggngd k > > Cheers > Brian gm4jyb > IO88hp Dunnet Head > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database:=20 > 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 18:47 > > --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007=20 18:47 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC23-100473311481b1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:38:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC16-100473311481b1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:38:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq7ZO-0001Ye-5N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq7ZN-0001YV-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq7ZH-0008Aw-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:37:17 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071108133632m15009tm1ce>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:36:43 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:36:25 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:36:25 +0000 Message-Id: <110820071336.22884.473310D9000923410000596422058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello Jean-Pierre, Please put the grabber in service again. It is a true benefit to see the signals at once. I believe that it helps and encourages activity on 137kHz. Thanks again for your reports and grabber, it benefits the whole 137kHz community! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF'ers , > > In spring , I stopped my “grabber” 137kHz because I thought that it > harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service > this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you > think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? > Thank you for your answer. > > 73 f1afj > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC41-6db472dc854146; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:25:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC61-6db472dc854146; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:25:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IofTj-00088t-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IofTj-00088k-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IofTh-00039t-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:27 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0863BDA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:24:52 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Just checked my Class-E IRF150 amp into load. At 50W output :- Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency = 78% John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-6944742c5c422e; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:32:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB62-6944742c5c422e; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:32:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuRJg-0000zV-Fq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuRJg-0000zM-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuRJc-0007zY-SF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:55 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108ACDA4D6 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:26:51 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I've just set up a new web-hosting account, seperate from my ISP's "free" webspace, as I was frequently running out of space! The new URL is: http://www.gm4slv.org.uk The grabber is at http://www.gm4slv.org.uk/grabber.htm The old grabber will continue in parallel for a while, then I'll change the page to announce a move of location. Regards. 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Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-ac1472f5bfe26f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:08:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac1472f5bfe26f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:08:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6MZ-0004fz-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6MZ-0004fq-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6MX-0003Yz-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:07:51 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76724DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:07:42 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105180742.350af925@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.042,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > Lots of QSB at the moment John, but just peaked 539 in IO91PJ. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > Fantastic news Dave! Will leave at 5W until 18:30 then QRP to around 1W or approx 5mW ERP - should give an indication of your own signal strenght? Cheers -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b95473ad0c8149; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:41:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b95473ad0c8149; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:41:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsFfc-0003Ih-Sb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsFfc-0003IY-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsFfa-0000Yy-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:32 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so94155nfb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=rUwPhdv+utysfuNocSWjH69pFleVGkKj3blYesZsLxQ=; b=YFOj8q+UJ/gMBnpzbrQDQPK+BLXw3J9yaPaDK/9vhvBJRcK1JcLzQvC/3OF8p1liQVXzf/nZVdSr17tl/fKaWwlnTDVFC186/CKYWW9w9TyV1RCe2gOsYI+U0eeHtKTbAMslDKEFBcW30rwZA0smhUbRozaySvLueLv6d+8RJWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qLKhqvl0J+PRcy7sap/IMuKxl6WlGAvpSa6U9ujFfShG0Z/ghMyq8QbGs0gi2Vqow/Kt3fOO69WAhqZJW0Jfcg/QRM1gTkhH0sWSBFdMdf5ql/TS76uXu8Cqydn0ctmJkBHJS8ZVtgQ3E41dPi5/KCM20HYgFeV53sQ8OddJNPw= Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr7775788hud.1195036816023; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.206.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:40:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88d2415e0711140240v20cb205bh9399dd1c396586c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:15 +0000 From: "lawrence mayhead" To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: GI/W QSO on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Perseverance pays off ! Congratulations to both Finbar and Jay. This must be a first. 73 Laurie G3AQC ------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Perseverance pays off !
Congratulations to both Finbar and Jay.
This must be a first.
73 Laurie G3AQC
------=_Part_4602_21875764.1195036816018-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-107472f76652bc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:01:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC23-107472f76652bc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:00:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip87b-0006jm-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip87a-0006jd-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:30 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip87Y-0004BL-HQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:00:30 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A8DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:00:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:00:21 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105200021.3d87b5c2@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.041,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks Gary, I was at 2W from 19:45 now going back to 5W at 20:00 for the next hour or so. Cheers, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi john, LF, > > Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a03472ddb56220; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:46:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a03472ddb56220; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:46:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IogkH-0000Z7-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IogkH-0000Yy-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IogkD-0005Lp-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570014D4D8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D68A4D457 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E45B31E703; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D8431E702 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 188EF1A9834; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from 153.71-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (153.71-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.71.153]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20071104154652.7hhjn8vlr734gos4@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:46:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.71.153 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Mal, with my 136kHz PA (variant of the G3YXM Class-D push-pull) I get 450W =20 output with 56V/9.5A supply, thus 85% efficiency. I once tried a 50W class-E PA and got over 90% efficiency with correct =20 load (50 Ohm). But the efficiency of the class-E was very sensitive to =20 mismatch and for higher power levels the required values of L,C and =20 supply voltage were rather inconvenient. Regarding components: I use coils wound on a thin PVC former (with =20 sufficient thick wire) and polyprop capacitors. As both in class-D and class-E amplifiers the FET's are used as switch =20 (on/off device) they must be fast enough en have a low on-resistance. =20 The higher the frequency the faster it needs to be. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting hamilton mal : > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. H= as > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is har= d > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ade474deb1173; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:26:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade474deb1173; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxVLh-0008SI-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxVLg-0008S9-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxVLd-0003rk-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1609A3EA0C2 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52113EA0AF for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <474DEADD.8080003@online.fr> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:25:33 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER>, <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Pictures of the WD2XGJ Transmit loop and tuner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you very interesting , Warren 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj K2ORS a =E9crit : > Hello the list, > > I have uploaded photos of the WD2XGJ transmit loop and antenna tuner=20 > to KC3OL's Lowfer Forum: > http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D260 > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC44-109472dcf565a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:55:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC25-109472dcf565a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:55:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IofwG-0008Kp-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IofwF-0008Kg-Pq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IofwB-00053f-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.101] (wan.stanlynet.org?[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <2007110413543911300k7aa7e>; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:54:44 +0000 Message-ID: <472DCF27.5020708@att.net> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:54:47 -0500 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.240,RCVD_IN_SBL=2.712 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 86% efficiency at 400 watts out with GŘMRF amp and MŘBMU mod is what I get. W4DEX, WD2XKO hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-180472e1e50256; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:32:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB24-180472e1e50256; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:32:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolCu-0003ul-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolCu-0003uc-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:28 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolCq-0005RJ-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:32:27 +0000 X-Trace: 630746525-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAP6sLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 19:32:14 +0000 Message-ID: <01e901c81f19$66fd9f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01>, <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> <472E1B09.14796.2B01635@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:32:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks to John & Dave, Yes it was just a typo. Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO > On 4 Nov 2007 at 19:00, Graham wrote: > >> Mike >> >> Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol >> , >> >> have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. >> >> G .. > > I assume it is a typo, but his callsign is GW4HXO.... > > Peaking 589 in Bracknell. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9fb472b5fc3359; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:35:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb472b5fc3359; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Pz-00065H-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0Pz-000658-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0Pw-0005CD-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:34:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 99698 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 17:26:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=zwQQQFT8QW7N7cpreAJWt9VjjUcmvzzkQgT+12QRzNv8M/Y2r4fAwlgK2cSEbWPlm/Ucru+GK1eVMYk+bEprFMBdJLAqpwoHbeJgMleTXXTclU3sIA+d0Fa/pwpanDrDxk+RRcNqvoTpAlU879NdHFkANYKwdCJXamSCaV1xUxQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.155.2 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 17:26:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pWyZ.AIVM1mMAkTEIMDhSjJ8uhCtttni5QBlvoWNV.vLOPCzAcj2ezUyWt5lYey_od1dkkyjPg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:26:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <1194023217.472b593135b72@imp.netikka.net> Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : GI4PDN is now in 5 wpm CW beacon mode on 501.555 kHz at the moment. Peaking 549 is QSB 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: 02 November 2007 17:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9d0473f5f5e105; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:38:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME084-9d0473f5f5e105; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:38:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVN0-0005f9-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVMz-0005ez-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:29 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVMx-0000Fz-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:38:29 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609CBDA4D9 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:37:58 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117213758.69a9b302@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you > need select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in > mmtty , he is dead center on 503.6 > Thanks Graham.... so that's what narrow shift RTTY sounds like.., I'll try to decode some now I know. Looks probable given the audible strength of it. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-e1473364b5183; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:34:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e1473364b5183; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:34:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqD7V-00030h-0N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqD7T-00030Y-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:51 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqD7M-0004wt-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:32:48 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Nov 2007 19:32:38 -0000 Received: from p54854FE5.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.79.229] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2007 20:32:38 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18H3oIfrUAHuuzKtoPGd05LdT1E1IiKPeUUeG39n/ b7XCAxfTMxeJjj Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:32:36 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <643983103.20071108203236@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz 7/8 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good copy of UA4WPF, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9b2474ca02efc; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:54:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME046-9b2474ca02efc; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:54:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix9Jr-0005uh-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix9Jq-0005uY-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix9Jn-0001Nu-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:18 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798EBDA4D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071127225408.08c018a6@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.038,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b7d473c37172a1; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:10:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d473c37172a1; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:10:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdXQ-0007LJ-U6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdXQ-0007L4-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net ([212.159.14.214]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsdXN-0000ty-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:40 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1IsdWw-0004YY-UW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:09:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c82780$548be2d0$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:07:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Careful ... the legislators may take you seriously ! But certainly the available bandwidth at lower frequencies needs to be widened to allow widespread use of phone on the 136kHz band. Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: LF: A bit of light reading > http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC33-1dc4736b8a472; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:09:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC56-1dc4736b8a472; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:09:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir7s7-0000WO-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir7s6-0000WF-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir7s2-0004M6-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:08:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22E83EA0CE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740A3EA0BD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736B872.4000600@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Victor , Victor van Kooten a =E9crit : > Received XGJ and traces at 137.775 KHz > =20 It this WD2XKO , visible 22:45 to 08:00 utc plse look on my grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ae7472e3f0e2a7; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:52:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae7472e3f0e2a7; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:52:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IonNe-0005h6-4u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IonNd-0005gx-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:41 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IonNZ-0002VW-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:51:41 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hq8sTHCKtyHil07eu4VpD82m+IZKAorRPp1KZY60xfaQzX9r7dJKB4K0i88cFjdB; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.41.23.54] (helo=kd4wov7) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IonN7-0004z3-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:51:09 -0500 From: "kd4wov" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <00d701c81f22$3a529960$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b09aaeb6c53fc49d7b52c055193c7c9de2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Wow, so you are able to use this class of amps in AM service? Do these amps require additional filtering for harmonics? de kd4wov -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 15:35 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E I run voltage-mode class D amplifiers (400 watts) on 137 and 505 as well as PDM modulated current-mode class D AM transmitters on 160 and 75 meters (375 watt carrier). Efficiency in all cases is in the low 90s. The best I've been able to achieve on 40 meters is 90%. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: LF: CLASS D and E > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9544744770fa2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:21:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF042-9544744770fa2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:21:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuBA-00066k-HA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuBA-00066b-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuuB4-0004S5-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393051EF8DE5 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id vyxty5z2ATip for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi96.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.101]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 919361EF8C1B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01c82c6b$14dcda00$6511f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev><20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local><003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev><20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com><000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> <20071121144308.6bbd059b@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:19:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Although mainly HF focused, there is an excellent online discussion / forum on class-e transmitters that some may find of interest : http://classe.monkeypuppet.com/viewforum.php?f=1 Steve / VE7SL Mayne Island, B.C. Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-97e472ec70f125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:33:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF094-97e472ec70f125; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:32:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IowRZ-00030Y-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IowRZ-00030P-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IowRU-0000Xt-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:32:20 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0B73EA0CC for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:32:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2513EA0B8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:32:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:32:15 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.148 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ, WD2XES , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ, WD2XES , WD2XKO ( Three beacons, great happiness ! ) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( sorry Joe , nothing here ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9034735852615f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:17:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034735852615f; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:17:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqnOE-0003tJ-4q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqnOD-0003t3-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:33 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqnO9-0003bY-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:33 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:24 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:23 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01c82382$b7938c40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:16:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2007 10:16:23.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF116CD0:01C82382] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj1011.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01C8238B.193F8A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40" ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj time 22:30-07:30 henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01C8238B.193F8A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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b=IQe3PhWETBiScgkirliM/Rdm4Fyf9mIq4dAdOKrVu8Tk8a69PwAXVjT34NOgSWfTTRdHq/41ts7QxEZqe1SnykVnodlrkRKqFRioVPPy3zBeG3HrQGCAtu5Ls+Qy6rLudHymxJqK4h667XjMEij2b7K3YtCUHsrccKkpVYR/fKk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.151.253.175 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 19:05:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uTcMNZsVM1kknVNpJnLIblSwTVgdyTdQmWRqZUmauNMBcAeccM1GDyzGPqMzJUahNoDJ62uS8Z43Y1PqZZOLYfmqMjehTpmYFJ1UaI9TxUuCHyzz From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:05:55 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Useful web page... http://www.sparkmuseum.com/BEGINS_RADIO.HTM ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 03 November 2007 18:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > a mode that noone else bothers about. Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-19d473c1c9e246; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB53-19d473c1c9e246; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbmD-0006nQ-2A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbmC-0006nH-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isbm9-0006wb-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:16:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDC43EA0EE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69E73EA10E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473C1C8C.6070504@online.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : The noise this night was rather low , not noted a difference with the other nights ! but still not of traces of VO1NA. The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-9644731c66b202; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:06:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF062-9644731c66b202; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:06:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IplXL-00053K-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IplXK-00053B-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IplXG-0005ao-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:05:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612383EA0FC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:05:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EA33EA0BD for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:05:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C631.7090907@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:05:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.144 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jay , Tnx for info , you are 400w in the 100' Marconi antenna . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1AFJ Jay Rusgrove a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre > > Thank you for the captures! Yes, XNS is running 400 watts transmitter powe= r. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite > > > Hello Warren and all , > > Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! > whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! > Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to > compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay > what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was > high +10dB. > > the captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > =20 >> Hello the list... >> >> Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. >> Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: >> http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm >> >> >> =20 > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-965473c257e394; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-965473c257e394; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IscLn-0006xU-49 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IscLm-0006xL-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.161] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IscLe-00075S-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00342B39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:17 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,5539d91c80f3085c,9e4775dee6d89887,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:69:355:379:481:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:967:969:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2393:2525:2551:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2741:2828:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3873: 3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250:4321:5007:6119:7576:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m75-mp2.cvx2-a.man.dial.ntli.net [62.252.208.75]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <00e001c82775$ba02c620$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0@fwd31.t-online.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:52:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.429 Subject: LF: Re: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Ha-jo You went qrt too early and missed all the action. I had a QSO with VE1ZZ at 0117utc I was on 502.5 khz and VE1ZZ 3534 khz. Good copy in both directions. This past few days propagation has been good on 500 khz and I heard WD2XSH/17 at 559 on 505.65 khz after my qso. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "LF Group RSGB" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: LF: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 > schrieb: > > Ha-Jo, > > > > Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. > > WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. > > > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > Dear Warren, > > I have listened around 506,5 kHz and 507 kHz last night and this night > until 00.10 UTC but heard nil, sri, just a beacon "Z" on 507,1 kHz. > > I guess I should have been located at the coast of western Europe to > hear WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6. > > Even on GM4SLV's grabber I have seen just a few dots on 507 kHz. > > But heard GI4PDE beaconing with interruptions around 23.52 UTC on 501,4 > kHz, RST 579 with QSB. > > And at 00.23 UTC I heard G3KEV calling VE1ZZ on 502,6 kHz, RST 569 but > also with deep QSB. > > Already around 16.00 UTC I heard G3KEV with good signal in QSO with > GM4SLV, but at this time his signal has had a rather long QSB period. > GM4SLV remained unheard, but I have got that he has repaired his MF > aerial. > > Now, at 00.30 UTC, I go to bed. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria. > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > > > Dear all, > > > > > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > > > contact started at > > > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > > > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > > > told him I would wait. > > > > > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > > > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > > > which he sent to F2JB. > > > > > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > > > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > > > became almost unreadible. > > > > > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > > > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > > > > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a86474b1e1b1e9; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:27:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA086-a86474b1e1b1e9; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:27:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjb8-0001zG-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjb7-0001z7-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:25 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwjb5-0007VS-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:26:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB09C4E4859 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NeB7BZ7e2Ydb for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (u-220-36.breclav.lan [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0144E4637 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:30:10 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:26:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] GM4SLV_grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo John! Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks! 73 and GL on 500kHz! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8306A.91C01390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo John!

Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks!<= /o:p>

 

73 and GL on 500kHz!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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11 Nov 2007 10:07:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 09:07:41.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[50670770:01C82442] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj11-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C8244A.A83A1DE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair 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31EBD1C00086 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:45:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071121104600204.31EBD1C00086@mwinf2124.orange.fr Message-ID: <200711211103410658.0F6D772B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:03:41 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.198 Subject: RE: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n As I live in a winegrowing area, I can see that I shall have to add yet anot= her major project to my extensive list. 73,=20 John F5VLF (Central Burgundy) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 20/11/2007 at 19:15 Dave G3WCB wrote: >Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the red variety for dipping the Weller bit >in... > >http://www.wireless.org.uk/gallery/gallerlf.htm > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of G4gvw@aol.com > Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website > > > Looks good John! > > What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering >bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is >this a continuing work in progress? > > > > > 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx > Qth near Felixstowe, UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8a5472f367b326; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:28:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a5472f367b326; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3rc-0001dv-2K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3rb-0001dm-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:43 +0000 Received: from smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.233] helo=smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3rX-0007Q9-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 27939 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 15:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2007 15:26:49 -0000 Message-ID: <472F3650.9000100@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:12 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110520071454.7391.472F2EA4000B66D600001CDF22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110520071454.7391.472F2EA4000B66D600001CDF22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XES et al Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren, His sunrise now is at 2247 UTC, and sunset at 1050 UTC. So he presently has a common-darkness window on one path to us for about an hour and 10 minutes after our sunset, and on the other path for about 35 minutes before our sunrise. Alan will chime in at this point and remind us that darkness approaching the "skip" points is the real key, and the windows will thus be greater. John A. k2ors@comcast.net wrote: > What UTC time is your dawn? I shut down WD2XGJ at 07:00 UTC last night. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB024-ab6472f3ed0345; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:03:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab6472f3ed0345; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:03:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4Pt-0002HR-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4Ps-0002HI-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip4Po-0002we-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:03:08 +0000 X-Trace: 622249042-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIPNLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQPg Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 16:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <010401c81fc5$54bd9c70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:02:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.201 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Jim, I would also like a copy, thank you. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-92b473aad06305; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:08:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b473aad06305; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:08:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDHh-0002dQ-4x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDHg-0002dH-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:40 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDHd-000193-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:40 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c33.1ca358fd (60442) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from AmiloMarkus (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD033-ec1a473aacbb2db; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:07:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nighttime background noise here. They we= nt off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for good... 73 Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation bot= h indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else noti= ced this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nightti= me=20 background noise here. They went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for=20 good...
 
73 Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11= :54=20 PM
Subject: LF: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk=20 modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the=20 source. Anyone else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C82695.61E94800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b684734f40412b; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:58:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD032-b684734f40412b; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:57:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqdjF-0001zM-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqdjE-0001zD-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:36 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqdjA-0008DA-Pd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:57:36 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lA9NvMb2030778 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:22 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lA9NvLbL008676 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:21 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lA9NvL7V023666; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:21 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:27:20 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007a01c8231a$0dc81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Message-ID: References: <007a01c8231a$0dc81f40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Group, Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, we get an allocation below 200 metres. See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ for more info. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.144]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1b3473179a3337; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:39:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC15-1b3473179a3337; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:39:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgR7-00033d-M0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgR7-00033U-8G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgR3-0004Aq-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:38:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A1B3EA0E1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:38:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8A93EA0E2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:38:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47317984.9090401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:38:28 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was=20 high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-a28473aaf4215e; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:18:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a28473aaf4215e; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:18:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDRi-0002oK-2d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDRh-0002oB-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDRd-0001BU-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:18:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1C93EA0DF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083513EA0F7 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AAF34.7080808@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:17:56 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.141 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( 23:30 , I believed one moment there! but not it was not it! ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-18747508da738b; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB31-18747508da738b; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEHa-0005bh-8t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEHZ-0005bY-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:25 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyEHW-00073I-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:25 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K4GV1Y00D1HzFnQ050d000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KAQA1Y00G2Uxt080300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:15 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6Dv6ogbuV97VzH9HnAUA:9 a=4juST8Ek4FrAB-uJ8wLplMUMWnUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=zbl8RoLLpRIA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <006101c8339e$fb06df00$091c6a58@wgt01> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.134,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 137 - XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? WOW Tnx Gary! Gud Cndx tonite! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: LF: 137 - XGJ > Hi LF, > > XGJ captured at 2212utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b624739da71129; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:10:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624739da71129; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:10:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrzGS-00012c-VQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrzGS-00012T-JN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrzGO-00017k-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:09:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 44562 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 17:00:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 17:00:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VNjUNqwVM1kgAuMvxsbiR5y8xRPVbMRylL1SRyv.xglJYoeCygv3IIbbTpIwdajkXN76ePMbsU9sm8ZmwQFTqr1pWXkL6P28bKyLUcx4tUHCW47A From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4739D83A.28181.2400FDC@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 13 Nov 2007 at 17:50, John RABSON wrote: > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or > EIRP? >From my NOV: "a peak effective radiated power not exceeding -10dbW" ie 100mW ERP 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-ab147317c591ef; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:50:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB027-ab147317c591ef; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:50:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgbO-0003Mf-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgbM-0003MW-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:32 +0000 Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgbF-0004Ic-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:29 +0000 Received: from mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.36]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536224AE43 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689AA6BD42 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from edgar1ew1re1zt (dslb-088-072-159-034.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.159.34]) (Authenticated sender: dl2hre@arcor.de) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A20B1C36A1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001201c8211b$115adc20$14b2a8c0@edgar1ew1re1zt> From: "dl2hre" To: References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:49:09 -0000 Organization: Arcor Online MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4691/Wed Nov 7 06:39:41 2007 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gm Waren, LF in the morning 06.11.07 at 0001utc i worked Finbar GI4DPE X-band 3533KHz/501.3KHz, he was 579 here. after that QSO Jack VE1ZZ was clg Finbar on 3533KHz, they had a really nice 2-way cw X-band QSO! 73 GL Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "rsgb" Cc: "hamilton mal" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE > Hi Mal, > > I spoke to Jack VE1ZZ about two weeks ago on 160 meters - he said that > he heard an Irish station running .1W ERP (perhaps Finbar?) on 500kHz on > 19 different occasions to that point. > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "hamilton mal" >> I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in >> VE. >> There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband >> 3533 >> and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. >> The mode is CW >> De Mal/G3KEV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a474e8c9ae1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:55:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6S-0001N4-1y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixg6Q-0001Mv-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: from rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com ([124.108.96.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixg6K-0002Bs-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 75839 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from 124.108.96.73 by rel105.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:54:20 -0800 Received: (qmail 47962 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sooby.xtra.co.nz) (bjhayes@xtra.co.nz@219.88.52.234 with login) by smtp104.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 09:54:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: P3LZPdQVM1mizQkLy4rT0BCKc7gSXFuNaXwzp3XDyJC.swFZuoAKV67aLf3lv7v4YQ-- Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:51:50 +1300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brenda Hayes In-Reply-To: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi JB, I remember comments on a similar situation from an old QST. In June 1977, Barry Boothe W9UCW recounts his success. His "Beverage" was half a mile long, on insulators, three barbed wires above and three below, steel poles, and the wire was 18/24 inches above ground. He terminated it by connecting it to the barbed wires at the far end. In fact, it was an out-of-season use for his electric fence - the horses were in the barn for the winter. Barry commented that it worked extra well and was the most directional Beverage he had ever used [on 160m.]. Your proposed wire along the top looks better than Barry's which was half-way down the fence. In passing, his "hot" wire was No.16 galvanised steel. Good luck. 73, Kevin, ZL4MD >My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts >to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a >thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out >of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about >eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? > >The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal >wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced >about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and >it appears to be galvanised steel. There is no intentional grounding of >the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch >the ground. > >Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a724747f34d2a3; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA062-a724747f34d2a3; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:47:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ivrbs-0005KC-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ivrbs-0005K3-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivrbp-0004os-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:47:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE9D3EA107 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AC3EA11C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:47:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b654735dd44351; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:33:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b654735dd44351; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:33:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtFU-0004sh-1f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtFT-0004sY-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:55 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqtFP-000654-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 47605 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2007 16:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 16:31:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MR_AWa8VM1nFOxx2b7cRQSj3uz2PU1mYYSn8MIBJ4N41JeC7tHYGG4wNfpIOPIcFAD38Z7N1UaieZmne78kUzSNNwQ541tctDF9nlNxREl8YNWxojpMYZNg2qR8- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:31:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Not sure if you were using the new arrangement last night Gary, but you were a good signal, 579ish, down here in Bracknell. Not that much weaker than the G0MRF beacon which you were somewhat underneath. As to the website, no real comments except that the picture of the new arrangement (image13952.jpg) is not very clear and you can't easily read the text. Probably you have resized it from a larger image and lost resolution. And on that subject, your two pictures at the bottom are HUGE (600kb and 213kb), you should resize them to be much smaller. I see it is done in Serif, which I understand is a publishing package and not the best for html, which shows. There is a lot of redundant code and all the absolute positioning makes it very hard to follow the source. But apart from that, it looks fine... 73 Dave G3YMC On 10 Nov 2007 at 15:32, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi All at LF, > > As you probably know by now (because I have mentioned it often) I have > quite a small back garden. I have continually strived to improve the > LF/MF antenna with this limitation & to keep on the right side of Mrs > T. > > The most recent "improvements" have been carried out & installed, > latest details at :- > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page19.html > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres > high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to > show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the > original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite > promising. > > I have also revamped the appearence of my web site & updated some > pages, please have a look & report any problems or make comments etc. > Web site home page address at the bottom. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ > Web site updated 10/11/2007 > > > > > > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b58473cd4071b8; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:19:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58473cd4071b8; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:19:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isnz3-0000Wp-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isnz2-0000Wg-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:52 +0000 Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isnyv-0001UL-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DAiT1Y00A0x6nqc0A04h00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:41 +0000 Received: from amailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.225.116]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DBJg1Y00R2XJQGC0800000; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OWqx2tXac2bRbuq8N8Wl9g==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=vVyjDKry3uXyanMLiKwA:9 a=wnb4xkQqW0PJ4gLQH0KjMy67wSoA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Received: from [65.196.126.5] by amailcenter16.comcast.net; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:36 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:18:36 +0000 Message-Id: <111520072318.29699.473CD3CC000CF0330000740322155863949C9D01CD05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: azJvcnNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ QRT Tonight Storms X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list... No operation of WD2XGJ this night due to storms. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a98472f2dd11ab; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a98472f2dd11ab; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:50:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3Ht-0000u9-3y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3Hs-0000u0-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:48 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3Ho-0002an-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:48 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105145037m1500a0h2ve>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:50:38 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:36 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "henny van elst" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:36 +0000 Message-Id: <110520071450.2757.472F2DBC0006B28C00000AC522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.423,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511xgj xes.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Thanks for the report and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj and xes > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-aa44738d392c1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:28:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB012-aa44738d392c1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:28:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhka-0006Ed-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhka-0006EU-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrhkY-0003vz-Qe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:27:24 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F07DA53A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:26:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:26:55 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071112222655.1782ebac@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: Extended Grabber range Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF With the current good conditions for transatlantic signals I've extended the frequency coverage of the grabber. It now covers from 501 to 508kHz. The AR7030 has a 9.5kHz IF filter which seems to work nicely. The DI beacon area around 505 is rather crowded and our part of the spectrum is squashed into a smaller space but there's a chance now to view the W beacons around 505-508. I can still see David G0MRF's beacon on 503.7. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b47473b01b727; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:10:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC103-b47473b01b727; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:10:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIvz-0003wL-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIvy-0003wC-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsIvw-0007wv-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:38 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F9EDA4D9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:09:07 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071114140907.150f5c0e@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello FL, Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending "WC WC" ? Just noticed it on the grabber and can hear it reasonably well by ear. Seems to be fading up in strength at 14:00 UTC John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dY-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dP-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InkWo-0007Ii-Sj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F09027000082 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BE8157000081 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102003624780.BE8157000081@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <008201c81ce8$6d0d7cd0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:36:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Dear Chris, Graham, LF Group, > > Thanks to G3XIZ earlier this evening for a nice RTTY QSO on 503.5kHz. I > used > MMTTY with 85Hz shift, and everything worked fine - mind you, Chris is not > far from me, and is a good 599 signal. > > I am currently (2310utc) sending some test calls on 503.5kHz in PSK31 > using > G3PLX's Windows software - any reports/QSOs welcome. > > >> Hi Jim, >> >> >> >> Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? >> >> >> >> As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , >> looks >> like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty > has >> that option >> > The driver is an IC 718 transmitting on 4.50x MHz in LSB mode, connected > to > the PC sound card in the usual way for data operation. So the bandwidth is > about 2.7kHz, although I would not want to use it all! The HF output is > mixed down to 500 kHz with a 4MHz crystal, and also fed to a simple diode > envelope detector to recover the modulation envelope. The 500kHz output is > filtered and amplified linearly to about +13dBm, then applied to a > limiting > amplifier to give a square wave "clock" signal for the class D output > stage > with the amplitude modulation stripped off, but retaining the frequency > and > phase information. The envelope detector output is used as a reference > voltage for a series regulator feeding the DC power to the class D PA, so > the DC supply voltage is modulated with the envelope of the original > signal. > The result is the output of the class D PA looking pretty close to the > original modulated signal. On receive, the signal path is reversed, and > the > incoming signal mixed up to 4.5MHz for reception by the IC718. > > I have been looking at the software on NL9222's extensive download site, > there seems to be a number of feasible modes there that might be worth > trying - I will try installing some over the next few days. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Ok Jim, Thanks for that , Is this a published dsesign or your own ? , Ive added a page to the 'ng' http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Looks like a few stations are intrested in this , may be you can add any links or data to the page ? what you describe looks to fit with the general descriptions of the 'mode' , Q, do you have any problem with the 'envalope = zero' issue ? I can see your signal at the moment (00-30 hrs) but its too low to print . looks like a good signal at Bham , dont know about 'rtty' think we should call it 'skippy' hih , I did see a stronger signal earlly on, which may of printed .. If your about , friday night , I will rig the tx up , see if we can do anything , early in the evening , after sunset is usually the best signals from london area ? G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b23472ae768396; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:01:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC057-b23472ae768396; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:01:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InsOz-00042E-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InsOy-000425-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:16 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InsOt-0003gy-17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:01:15 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAEFDA4D8 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:00:53 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Good point's john . Thanks Graham, This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my location! >>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles >>to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with >>seeming >>ease. > But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip > distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission > losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the > skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation > for semi local stations > I was initially directing my "more power" point to stations like Dave G3YMC who complain that they hear the "DX" stations like myself yet fail to heard by those same stations. This isn't a question of extending the ground-wave signal further into the "skip-zone" it's a question of radiating a similar level of power than the remote station that you're already hearing and who is obviously therefore in "skip range". The question of how much TX power is necessary needs to be addressed by each station individually due to differences in antenna efficiencies. To say "5W" or "10W" or "25W" is "enough to generate 100mW" is plain wrong. The power needed is just that - "the power needed" - whether it be 5W or 200W. On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the effect of differing local noise floors! As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky enough to be able to try these things ;-) All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, even in daytime. > > For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , > 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) > reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. Conversely, my AR7030, even with a wideband 4kHz IF filter to feed the grabber, shows no S-meter deflection in the daytime. With a narrow 300Hz CW filter I can even use 30dB of extra RF pre-amplification to good effect to pull out the likes of G3UNT from the noise. Brian runs (I think) quite modest power yet is audible 24/7 here. Have a listen to what he sounds like with 10Hz filter in at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/g3kev_g3unt_clip_22_09_07.mp3 This was recorded at 10:25UTC on 22 Sept. >>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate >>highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to >>do so.<<< > 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach > something in the region of 100mW , I agree. That's what I use to get 100mW ERP. However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's doubly handicapped:- Low TX power and poor efficiency. It's a simple equation..... If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. One good thing about the OFCOM power limit being in terms of ERP and not TX power is it should allow a level playing field, with everyone being prepared to engineer their systems appropriately to meet the limit, unless specifically interested in much lower ERPs for some other reason. I'd much rather (and I have) bite the bullet, build a bigger TX and try to at least comfortably reach the 100mW ERP limit, after all 100mW is tiny enough, but to purposefully restrict yourself further seems pointless if your aim is aural, manual CW QSOs. We need to make QSOs while we have access to the band. A log book full of "called CQ, no reply" or "called GM4SLV, no reply" is of little scientific value, or emotional value, as is a log book full of "worked GxXXX again. RST599 as always, but then he's only 10 miles away" We need to push the boat out now and put out as good a signal as possible to get some work done on the band while we've got it. If it takes a 200W TX then do it! > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense > of the word .. > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna producing them. The limiting factor is S/N ratio. Overcome the noise and you'll be heard, assuming there's some propagation path. In Dave's case I'd say that if can hear a station then there obviously is a path. The answer, I'm afraid, is "More Power Igor!" -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-96c4738fdfd308; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4738fdfd308; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irka4-0006u9-4K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irka3-0006u0-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:43 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrkZl-0005vP-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:28:43 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAD1Qmor025094 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:13 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAD1Q3bL023683 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:56:13 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAD1PqnW027240; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:52 -0330 (NST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:51 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: LF Group RSGB In-Reply-To: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: -1000: wpbl.blocklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 600m in VO land Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The following were heard tonight near 507 kHz with perfectly readable CW signals: WE2XGR/6 /1 and /2. The aerial was a 525' Beverage. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae4472cc4ac36c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:57:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae4472cc4ac36c; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:57:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOBl-0006A5-Fg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOBk-00069w-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:44 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOBg-0002cv-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:57:44 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.103]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:35 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c81e4b$5ec5f030$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:57:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2007 18:57:34.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[653BFDB0:01C81E4B] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wpf0211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of wpf? 73s henny pa3cpm ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C81E53.C0612550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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JgDzML7tZY83FhKLQfTnGYU0cXZusTVestoI9Km1hxaJabNR9iIBsUX6OP8AL//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C81E53.C0612550-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b0e472c9f0d3d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:17:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e472c9f0d3d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:17:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLgH-0004Fw-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLgG-0004Fn-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:17:04 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) 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<00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: >> What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii >> ... > > > G .. > Hi Graham MMTTY go into demodulator options and you will find desired shift of 23 Hz 73, peter, sq7mpj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0647336e5f200; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:15:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG038-a0647336e5f200; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:15:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDlK-0003N9-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDlH-0003N0-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:00 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDlC-0005Id-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:13:57 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AF2C3BB1281 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:13:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.248.195.152] by freemailng1808.web.de with HTTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:13:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:13:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1711396917@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18fVfYJy0/D5W4GGY8WoMuHvasPGJfKgzkniQwzNhYTR5Ifx EOWAGl0gPM7O2+n14ffo5mcGcuzKXq/zfZaAxd3wDkgxVMLnhI= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Jim, please be so kind to send me a copy of Your articlae. 55, Hans-Albrecht > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 05.11.07 15:22:27 > An: > Betreff: LF: LF/MF EER transverter >=20 > Dear LF Group, >=20 > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to se= e > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately >=20 > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU >=20 >=20 >=20 _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=3D100071&distributionid=3D000000000066 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.147]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1d547457f60304; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:09:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC49-1d547457f60304; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:08:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBn2-00016z-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBn2-00016q-Ee for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19] helo=mailout06.sul.t-online.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBmy-0003Li-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:20 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IvBmx-0004Tz-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:08:15 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (bKDRQBZpghy3KJrFzwZNHmGcmF81pjDopPuIFeYJElrmWfBgl-E0fvQhZv4njVAQPh@[217.95.104.88]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IvBlg-0b2NQO0; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:06:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4745780C.1010806@ukonline.co.uk> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 22 Nov 2007 12:59 GMT Message-ID: <1IvBlg-0b2NQO0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: bKDRQBZpghy3KJrFzwZNHmGcmF81pjDopPuIFeYJElrmWfBgl-E0fvQhZv4njVAQPh X-TOI-MSGID: 8a3f6676-49c6-4bbc-8f58-66434b014755 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.055,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, as a radio operator in the maritime service I had used QSW, but never QTV. But the website http://life.itu.ch/radioclub/rr/frr.htm (look for Phone Code & Q-Code) gave me the answer. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Peter Dodd" schrieb: > > That made things so much clearer! > > Peter, G3LDO > > Laurence KL1X wrote: > > > > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > > suggest you peruse.... > > > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf > > > > Laurence KL1 X > > QTU 24 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at > > > times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what > > MF QRG I > > > am transmitting on > > > I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX > > freq to > > > avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all > > bands, the > > > normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG > > > otherwise I might not hear you. > > > > > > 73 De Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now! > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac8473f662b206; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:08:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB056-ac8473f662b206; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp8-0006Iy-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp7-0006Ip-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:33 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVp4-00067v-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1DAB71C00085 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:07:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.156]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id AC0831C00084 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:07:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071117220724704.AC0831C00084@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c82966$42cfb250$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Gary Note , in MMTTY there is the option of 45 baud , or 45.45 baud ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi John, > > If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you can > change that parameter so no problem. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > > >> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 >> "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. >>> >> >> >> How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? >> >> I was intially set at 45.45Bd... >> >> Will try again at 45 >> -- >> John GM4SLV >> IP90gg >> Clousta, Shetland >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aea473ab66f1a4; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea473ab66f1a4; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDvE-0002x8-E3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDvD-0002wz-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDvA-0008BO-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7973EA0E1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B31E3EA107 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AB65A.40904@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:48:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> In-Reply-To: <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov - DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Markus , Alan and Mike , Here, on the antenna which is in your direction (K9AY) I do not see anything abnormal , but I am further (JN06HT)! to see the screen printing with :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Capt_12.jpg 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Markus Vester a =E9crit : > Hi Mike and Alan, > > I believe Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of=20 > the band actually do come from DCF39. > > Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transradio solid state=20 > transmitter, which unfortunately appears to have much less efficient=20 > modulation waveform shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and=20 > has come on for a few hours from time to time. This is also the reason=20 > for the different reported idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before,=20 > 138830.6 Hz now). > > There is a grabber shot on=20 > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands_070404.png which=20 > shows the difference of the spectral characteristics. Especially in=20 > quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to about=20 > 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been=20 > in contact with a person at the German regulatory body=20 > "Bundesnetzagentur", who was involved in the on-site acceptance=20 > testing. He was quite understanding and helpful, but basically said=20 > that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed to be within the=20 > prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enforce a=20 > reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions. > > Due to the modulation characteristics there are however a few spectral=20 > gaps in the sidebands which could be useful to us. The appended plot=20 > shows a spectrogram between 137.5 and 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies=20 > above 135.5 kHz zero beat). The vertical streaks show visible minima at > 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 2273 Hz), > 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and > 137.560 to 137.575 kHz. > One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA=20 > (currently ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps.=20 > Before we decide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know=20 > how much others in the LF group are affected. > > 73 and best wishes > Markus, DF6NM > > PS: A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's=20 > test signal? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > > > > Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy > > (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and=20 > shifts > > "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. > > Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter=20 > since then, > > but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. > > > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Dennison" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM > > Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > > > >> I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off > >> the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make > >> CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which > >> makes QRSS harder. > >> > >> Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to > >> 30s slow) : > >> > >> 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) > >> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' > >> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' > >> > >> Very noisy overnight. > >> > >> Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. > >> Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know > >> if this frequency causes anyone a problem. > >> > >> de Mike, G3XDV > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9e3473c7df828e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:12:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e3473c7df828e; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:12:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsiDu-0008Os-7E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsiDq-0008Oj-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:47 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsiDk-0006ch-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B90077E04E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <473C7D4F.4060607@telia.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:09:35 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Mal, it is quite strong here in southern SM too. 73 Johan SM6LKM hamilton mal skrev: > Hi all > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the > time, and vy strong at times. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a0a4740501639; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:45:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4740501639; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:45:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlOE-0002Ay-1I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlOD-0002Ap-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlOB-0001qK-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:49 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F21DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:44:40 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118144440.2e08651d@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > Much better than last night! Q(!h6XDFBQ NP???hYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 2007-NOV-18 14:39 UTC TESTING DE G4WGT G WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING THE QUICK BROWM FOX JUMPS OVER THENLAZY DOG TSTINV DW GGWGONPJRZ931WGT Still some errors but better. Using MTTY on Win98SE -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mail.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.147]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-124472f58e138; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:02:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC52-124472f58e138; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:54:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip69L-0004J5-Cj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip69K-0004Iw-TX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip69H-0003UK-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 55041 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.153.196.176 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wNJ3W48VM1mhecqgEBSi4CKEi.N5e60AOwYUGvFhai6iWVjkSDrT32i.JpBbsJYVKZZr_uKxnzQ4O5_vlQFcm7Rz8qEQXzMBWbSZA9n0NJ9f9SHJ7JIzVhAVQUzksOSeTsA- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:33:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472F53DB.18985.25F8D14@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Lots of QSB at the moment John, but just peaked 539 in IO91PJ. 73 Dave G3YMC On 5 Nov 2007 at 17:14, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > Hello LF, > > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW > ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the > really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who > can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB > > I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon > using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. > > > > Cheers, > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b1d47459501147; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:41:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d47459501147; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDER-0001ih-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDEQ-0001iY-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:42 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDEM-0003FB-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:40:42 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAMEcf84030585 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:41 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lAMEcSbL020928 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:28 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lAMEcSd6023162; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:28 -0330 (NST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:08:27 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4745440E.1010203@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi J-P, group, Yes, there is a weak trace! This is encouraging news. Congrats! Joe VO1NA On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > VO1NA : trace at 06:00 utc ( first dash ! synchro ok , frequency ok , dura= tion 9mn ok ) see 141.jpg picture > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f6472e0efe2fd; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f6472e0efe2fd; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:27:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IokBa-0002mC-N1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IokBa-0002m3-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IokBX-00087u-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:02 +0000 X-Trace: 630726754-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIadLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:26:32 +0000 Message-ID: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:26:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014E_01C81F10.390955B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_014E_01C81F10.390955B0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, LF, Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. 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Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 28 Nov 2007 at 9:32, WE0H wrote: > http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php > > New forum for anything you want to say about LF &/or MF operating, > equipment, whatever is on your mind. Put it in threads so no more > digging through a gazillion email's reflected... If you have a decent email program it can also sort them nicely into threads, and will also have an excellent search funcion. Pegasus Mail does the job very nicely for me. Forums suit some people, email reflectors others, don't want to get into that argument again... Won't be joining the forum at least at the moment myself as not currently on 136/500. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b5c474051c8173; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:53:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD016-b5c474051c8173; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:52:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlVt-0002Gf-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlVt-0002GW-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlVo-0001FH-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:45 +0000 Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EEJG1Y0050mlR8U0A02E00; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:16 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EEsA1Y00C2Uxt080800000; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:52:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=N709r95ARL7U6jK96C8A:9 a=9AlDVHlJ8BVJqvgzrD7H0XY4zS8A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <5F96F89AD73D461D86775EA08E752167@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:51:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and captures! Your 'grabber' is a great service to thr LF hams! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:19 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9cd47311454142; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:27:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd47311454142; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:26:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZgd-0001jy-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZgc-0001jp-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:30 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZgZ-00012A-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:26:30 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d4e.16de37f3 (42805) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:26:18 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:26:17 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194398777" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194398777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/11/2007 00:54:23 GMT Standard Time, k2ors@comcast.net writes: Your Miniwhip is working very well Yup, they usually do. Just think of all those antennas built with a "standard" 1 metre whip..... all that wasted metal.... all that wasted space.... all that wasted time......sigh!! Roelof, you really should be ashamed of yourself:-) Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) regards Nigel GM8PZR -------------------------------1194398777 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/11/2007 00:54:23 GMT Standard Time, k2ors@comcast= .net=20 writes:
Your=20 Miniwhip is working very well
Yup, they usually do.
 
Just think of all those antennas built with a "standard" 1 me= tre=20 whip.....
all that wasted metal....
all that wasted space....
all that wasted time......sigh!!
 
Roelof, you really should be ashamed of yourself:-)
 
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1194398777-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-979472f48933bf; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-979472f48933bf; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:45:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip54M-0002xc-JD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip54M-0002xT-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:58 +0000 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip54I-0003AU-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:57 +0000 Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ip54H-0008NY-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:53 +0000 Received: from [82.40.42.71] (helo=p4) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ip54F-0002mg-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:52 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <007e01c81fcb$2f829bd0$6401a8c0@p4> From: "Mark" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:44:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Me too please Jim Thanks Mark GM4ISM Just blown up my exciter :<(( ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.21/1109 - Release Date: > 04/11/2007 11:05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1111 - Release Date: 05/11/2007 04:36 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b81474886a4218; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:16:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD063-b81474886a4218; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:16:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw1QM-00067p-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iw1QL-00067g-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:21 +0000 Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.56]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iw1QH-00083l-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GhHH1Y00817UAYk0A0Be00; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:13 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkG71Y0042Uxt080800000; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:16:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gSeL0x-DWyAA:10 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=h5QID5vJ-CzzpznmGdkA:9 a=VDczxQJSNS-x3Bu0WfqvlaLqnrIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <52A6D5D666884CA8ABB8B6CE1EABC8E4@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:15:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Jean-Pierre, Henny, Thank you for the reports and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b084730727c46; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:56:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b084730727c46; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:56:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpOu1-00080q-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpOu0-00080h-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpOtx-000314-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 334181C00084 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:55:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.229]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D13B81C00088 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:55:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071106135527857.D13B81C00088@mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004301c8207c$b17be720$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:55:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Alan, .. Thats the point , >>>>(((((Note that it is not a 50% squarewave)))). Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs=20 > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies.<<<< Its a good system , I was noting a lot of 'posts' referring to , P=3DI*V , , even if it was a 1= :1=20 square wave, you would still need either a form factor , or better still , a= =20 'true rms' meter . to make the final measurement , assuming it has=20 sufficient bandwidth , A scope with a floating differential input , measuring across a very low=20 'passive' resistance would do the trick .. .. Its a bit like measuring the peak power out of a ssb set , do you measure=20 the peak envalope power , by peak votatage and calculate the power and then=20 mult by 0.707 to get the rms level .or just take the peak ... or just dont=20 ask ? Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? > Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked > at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the=20 > choke > is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when > it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The=20 > choke > tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is > what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt=20 > cap > are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current,=20 > so > the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show > "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs=20 > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc > feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's=20 > , > past P =3D I*V ? > > Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing > 'spurious side bands' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx.=20 > The > output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 > pole LPF. > For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good > calibrated scope and a quality DL > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more=20 > like > a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to > get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally > measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a > issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on=20 > the > leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area=20 > under > the curve' ? > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Hi all >> Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work >> out. How are the % figures measured. >> One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) >> then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R >> be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the >> Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> > > Again...with my TX > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency =3D 78% > > > The math's is trivial..... > > 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input > > 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against > a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) > > Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In > > > 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 > > Hence 78.6% efficient. > > Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary > quantities then the end result will be meaningless. > > Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and > good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 > ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? > > With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your > measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency > calculated to be really way out. > > Say (plucked out of thin air example):- > > DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) > > 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W > > > > RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load > > 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W > > Efficiency =3D 93.6% > > > > If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... > > I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out > > Efficiency =3D 103% > > Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual > motion machine..... > > > > If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... > > 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W > > Efficiency =3D 91.7% > > > > Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes > syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie > down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. > The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce > serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce > 150W on 500kHz. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date:=20 > 11/2/2007 21:46 > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a5f4740bcf121b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:30:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA037-a5f4740bcf121b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:30:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itse0-0004qh-33 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itsdz-0004qY-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:35 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itsdx-0005yD-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC8C4E4EDA for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYJ4Q3eU52jY for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA9A4E4963 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:33:19 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:28:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82a32$6972ed10$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] 503.600 KHz RTTY test. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo Gary! I am seeing on my screen in QRSS mode and I think, that I am receiving your RTTY signal on 503.600kHz. See on the snapshot. GL and GE! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C82A3A.CB375510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b104741988878; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104741988878; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:07:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu7G0-000738-6b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:05:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu7Fz-00072z-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:05:47 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu7Fv-0005at-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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much apprecia= ted! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:24 AM Subject: LF: 137.777 Capt. 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------=_NextPart_000_01C2_01C82A8B.549A2CB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB32-18c4734d8e08d; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:02:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB36-18c4734d8e08d; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:02:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqbvH-0001Hl-OP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqbvH-0001Hc-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqbvD-0004di-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:01:55 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-158.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.158]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 634353DBB76; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-158.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.158]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id eb58dprsoOxJgeEY; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c8231c$1d46e120$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:01:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz. digital modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Lowfers & LFers, If anyone plans to run any of the digital modes found in MultiPSK on 500 kilohertz, please post a message here or to the LWCA bulletin board with the details. To date I've just copied plain cw and QRSS on my setup. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.133]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-17a474582043a6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:20:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB18-17a474582043a6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:20:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBy9-0001Eg-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvBy6-0001EX-Nm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.227] helo=smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvBy2-00082F-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 16945 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2007 13:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 22 Nov 2007 13:19:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4745820E.4070807@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:20:14 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence KL1X wrote: > If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then > suggest you peruse.... An incomplete list...didn't even have "QLF" (now try sending with your LEFT foot). John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b1d473960761de; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:30:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC051-b1d473960761de; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:29:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr92-0007eh-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr92-0007eY-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irr8z-0001TZ-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFAF3EA0D3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD553EA0E7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47396043.7060501@online.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:28:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , last night, only two beacons, (not of small test of John XES like the night=20= of before) WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (good) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-901473613f31dd; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901473613f31dd; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwuO-0005Ze-AZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqwuN-0005ZU-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:23 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqwuL-0000x3-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:23 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E0DA4D9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:25:51 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110202551.3e025103@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:57 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > > > I will be operating test transmissions with the antenna at 9 metres > high rather its usual 12 metres. The initial Rx & Tx tests seem to > show a similar performance at 9 metres high as compared to the > original antenna at 12 meters, so preliminary results are quite > promising. > Hi Gary,LF, Hearing your slow CW ident and long dash quite nicely up here. Will email a sound file direct. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB32-c8472a1ed53b3; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:45:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB110-c8472a1ed53b3; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:45:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inf2O-0000ze-86 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inf2N-0000zV-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:03 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inf2K-0008RK-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:45:03 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2007 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from p54857403.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.116.3] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 01 Nov 2007 19:44:54 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19beZ5KPbtb3XzbnWDz8rDMD9Mx4Sq9jjtynVfVT5 QszTAUz3d92oX9 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:44:52 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1147148794.20071101194452@gmx.de> To: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV In-Reply-To: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020 Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: >> Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz >> De G3KEV >> > It's back again! > I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between > the "PAT"? > John It's a pirate! 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b984744453d30d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984744453d30d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuqrj-0005Zd-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuqrj-0005ZU-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iuqrh-0000oq-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:47 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DE0DA4D8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:43:08 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121144308.6bbd059b@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:20:17 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > You were a late starter on 500. I would say you have missed a lot. > G3KEV > > Undoubtedly I was and certainly I have. Your snide comments aside, I'm referring to your recent reported measurements and optimisation of tuning components to achieve good drain waveform as recounted by you on 18th November. It was a very interesting report, showing what can be done by observing the waveform to determine the necessary adjustments to tuning and loading on these amplifiers. I assume that after all the painstaking work to select the correct values of capacitor to get the optimal drain waveform that you measured the efficiency? If you've previously posted such results, prior to June 2007 when I joined the LF reflector, then I will certainly have missed them, but then your earlier data is not relevent to the recent reported study. I simply asked if you could fill us in with the important details of power input/output and efficiency (which surely is the point of using these Class-E amplifiers) which your report (copied below) seems to lack. Regards John Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b4a4739c1761c6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:23:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4739c1761c6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:23:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irxbv-0000Kv-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irxbu-0000Km-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:30 +0000 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irxbo-000729-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:23:30 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id CBYo1Y00A1GhbT8000Hx00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:57 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter89.comcast.net ([204.127.197.189]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CFNx1Y00Q45fzCC0000000; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jSgAKEDwlalt5/JD+1dgpQ==:17 a=ysiYkyE4AAAA:8 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=pzwkLd8rrZvrUIqXnC4A:9 a=Ln31jWuSDybc4TDVUfKQQDbLXMEA:4 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter89.comcast.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:56 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:56 +0000 Message-Id: <111320071522.17082.4739C150000BE33B000042BA22092246270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! Thank you for providing the grabber - it is a great service to the LF community! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello LF , > > last night, only two beacons, (not of small test of John XES like the night of > before) > WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (good) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-94d475008f81ac; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:59:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF033-94d475008f81ac; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:58:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy5Oj-0004Qu-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy5Oh-0004Ql-82 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:11 +0000 Received: from cas-mta3-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.28] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy5OW-0001px-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.98]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527FB4F1B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.28]) by localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id sXd5pWuJMM03 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from Willem1 (5357B72B.cable.casema.nl [83.87.183.43]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7804F28 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:40 +0100 (CET) From: "Willem de Roode" To: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:54:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgzUCwlm1LNQy1/QsiQedoiRDrYSQ== X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C83358.8E8E05B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C83358.8E8E05B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Capture wd2xgj In jo22mb 73s wim pa3ego ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C83358.8E9076B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <921022414.20071110191624@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 9/10 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Copied UA4WPF, WD2XGJ, WD2XNS and WD2XKO. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz in QRSS3. Only brief copy of a "6" from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz in QRSS3. On about 506.3 kHz I captured a CW trace on the QRSS3 screen, but nothing readable in CW mode. Captures of /17 and /6 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8ae472efe70dc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae472efe70dc; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:28:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip08H-0005db-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip08G-0005dR-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:40 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip08D-0003RX-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:28:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471EF8040031D265 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:27:57 +0100 Message-ID: <472EFE4D.8050702@telia.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> In-Reply-To: <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> X-Karma: -140: lashback.ubl=-140.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) These articles have the information you need to design and tune a class E amplifier: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/010102qex009.pdf http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~culler/AIIT/papers/radio/Sokal%20AACD5-poweramps.pdf This program can be used to find the initial values for impedances and components: http://tonnesoftware.com/classe.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a12473178c3367; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:35:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG054-a12473178c3367; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:35:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgNF-0002z2-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgNF-0002yt-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:57 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgNA-0004D9-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:56 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.111]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:34:46 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml111.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:34:12 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c82118$e91a3640$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:33:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:34:12.0401 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9354A10:01C82118] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.239,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0711xko.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180" ------=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xko henny cpm....... 73s . ------=_NextPart_001_003F_01C82121.4AC94180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C82121.4AC94180-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9e2473f64ef86; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:02:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME106-9e2473f64ef86; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:02:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVjx-0006Cj-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVjx-0006Ca-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:13 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVju-0000ct-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:02:12 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1996CDA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:01:32 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, > > If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you > can change that parameter so no problem. > that all depends on your software! gMFSK has the choice of 45 or 45.45 There are just as many errors (ie lots) whichever speed I choose. The noise seems to be wrecking the decoding despite a reasonable sounding signal by ear. CW would work! Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9f0473d68e89a; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:55:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG012-9f0473d68e89a; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:54:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isxsw-0001hy-Fa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isxsu-0001hp-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.161] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isxsp-0003c1-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:53:11 +0000 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00358B58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:56 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,f3878ab52beb717f,1d07c3d43ba52bbc,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2377:2378:2379:2393:2559:2562:2828:2892:3353:3636:3690:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:4647:4699:5007:6117:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m48-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.48]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.427 Subject: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out for the time being. It looks like 600 is similar in many ways to 160. I have been active on 160 m for a long time and for example have worked VE7/KL7/W6/W7 early morning on a particular day only to find the next morning the propagation to those places does not exist, at times I have heard W stns S9 plus here in the morning gone daylight and a few days later I cannot hear any at all. My observations on 600 m so far this autum indicate similarities to 160m. The situation on LF 136 khz is different, condx do vary but are more consistant, perhaps this band should be exploited more, but it now seems deserted in favour of 500 khz. The 73 khz band was getting popular and had good potential for consistancy just when the permits were withdrawn. The above information is my experience to date, meanwhile I am monitoring closely for a big opening and hope to have a qso with some of those stations active in the USA. I just need a good tail wind. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b64472af0bf36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:41:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64472af0bf36; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:41:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Int1G-0004DH-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Int1F-0004D8-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:50 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Int14-0003qh-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 92075 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 09:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.157.220.230 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 09:40:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UNpx_joVM1lcpsUL8hRPQrNQ7QuvIoCsZiWRwx.Y7AB7RVESkNuz0kPopwoWKmNr_DxH8H0RBZdJpKNBG.tQd8NTLfUyRYjcsZlgkMh22c4Iu0sX From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:40:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472AF08F.9049.B41215@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB>, <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.072 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 2 Nov 2007 at 9:00, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by > his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's > doubly handicapped:- > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. I run around 6W output. My original calculations which was what the wording on my NOV application were based, was that the maximum power I would use would be 10W and that my proposed vertical would produce around 100mW erp. And my objective, as also stated on my NOV application, was to evaluate the use of 500kHz from a 'typical urban property'. To that extent I have now evaluated my experiments. The earth loss, at 150 ohms measured, proved rather higher than the 20 ohms or so that I assumed in those original calculations. The results I am getting are very much in keeping with my setup and antenna. Using a vertical antenna with no horizontal section there is very little high angle radiation. So within the ground wave zone, 100- 150 miles or so, results have been remarkably good and I can have excellent chats with some of the stations in this area. Because there is no high angle radiation longer distance stations are hard to work, much as I experience in using this vertical on 160m. But I would expect at even further distances, eastern Europe, for instance when the sky wave is at a low angle, results may be a bit better. Remember also that any antenna with a horizontal section will radiate from that section. Theory may say it cancels out due to earth reflection, but that is only really true if you have a perfect earth. As for running higher power, that is not really my option. Regardless of saying that I would not run more than 10W on my NOV surely the answer is to find ways of lowering the earth resistance to something more comparable with what others experience rather than just heating up the garden with virtually all the power. I shall not be doing that myself, others may see it as an answer. Since I shall be changing the antenna over to 160m before CQWW at the end of the month, it is probably fairly academic. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8c4472f49ea31c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c4472f49ea31c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:50:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59y-00036r-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip59y-00036c-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout0132.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.132] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip59p-0003CO-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:45 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.75) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0028668F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:50:31 +0000 Message-ID: <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:49:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.434 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ada47416dd7221; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:05:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada47416dd7221; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:04:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4Qj-0006We-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4Qi-0006WV-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:40 +0000 Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu4Qe-0001ix-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:39 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EaxS1Y0060cQ2SL0A00G00; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Eb4W1Y00F1pKLLP0800000; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=_Ww90chLtYy8gbEPdnkA:9 a=9PopMbwZIK1PaMw6e0BUZm9eaJYA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <001b01c82a9b$f410d360$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:04:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.281 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Henny WE2XGR/2 was on 506.5 kHz running 12 wpm cw ID with gaps (10-12 seconds) between IDs. QRT at 0430Z. Thanks for the report! Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "henny van elst" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:44 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 but who? henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-901474217e21ed; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:10:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-901474217e21ed; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:10:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuFkL-00086S-UL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:09:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuFkL-00086J-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 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Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: sm6bhz beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080600020201070600040700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 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X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I like a copy. Thank you 73 Federico EA2HB IN93ah ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC14-1c24735a3b634a; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:27:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC210-1c24735a3b634a; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:27:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqpQX-0004FO-4A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqpQW-0004FF-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqpQU-0002v3-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:04 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1C3DA4D8 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:26:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:26:54 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071110122654.0972860a@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.040,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 > minutes. band noise level low at present. > Hello LF, Ray, Chris, Just had a listen and GI3PDN is RST539. Band noise extremely low so fully Q5 despite being very weak, as long as I use the external tuneable pre-amp. Also hearing GW4HXO calling CQ on 502.02 very weak but just readable 429. Mal of course S8-9 on 502.5 as ever... Waiting for a chance to drop the TX antenna to replace the broken capacity wire which was the only damage sustained in Thursdays force 10-11 winds (gusts to 93mph were recorded locally...). Probably won't be until tomorrow until I get a chance. Unitl then I'm RX only (again!) Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA044-a6847319c9b192; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:08:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA048-a6847319c9b192; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:08:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipil9-0004B5-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipil8-0004Aw-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:46 +0000 Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipil4-0004pn-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id 9n1U1Y0011HpZEs0100L00; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:42 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9n7h1Y0021pKLLP0000000; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:07:42 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=7AI31_CU3CR3ZP30qQgA:9 a=7QalPrz5RxhFykmlPvgA:7 a=Xg-q4klsiB48IUrVFLXZlLfE3-kA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <002801c8212e$69650720$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:07:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.300 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jean-Pierre Thank you for the captures! Yes, XNS is running 400 watts transmitter power. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Hello Warren and all , Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! Warren, have you the “decca” in service ? because it would be good to compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was high +10dB. the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > Hello the list... > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-9224745ad011c6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:23:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224745ad011c6; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:23:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEpi-0002G0-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvEpi-0002Fr-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0165.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.165] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvEpf-0004bw-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:18 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0041F2D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:23:02 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,2be191651e06cd30,b9218959ffb08a7c,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:960:967:973:980:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1461:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2525:2551:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2828:2857:2859:2902:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3352:3421:3636:3747:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871: 3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250:4470:5007:6119:7576:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82d23$f3bf3980$33ccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <000401c82c83$fe9fc2c0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:22:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: QSO Etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Roelof Tnx for the call/QSO last nite. There was good propagation to EU at that time. I worked a number of EU stns. SM6NZV, DL1EIE, DJ1ZB, F6CNI, PA0RDT and PA0LCE plus one G stn. 73 and hpe to QSO agn soon. de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: LF: QSO Etiquette > Hello all, > > I have followed the discussion on crossband QSO's today. > > A few minutes ago I had a crossband QSO with G3KEV. > Whilst calling him it dawned upon me that there is a very simple solution to > this problem: > I just send: G3KEV on 502 kHz de PA0RDT K. > Mal send my call as PA0RDT on 3553 kHz. > > This way listeners on 600 m and 80 m do know exactly what is going on. > > Best regards, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > -- > Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. > 521 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. > Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB23-ef472e4c6d196; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:49:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB59-ef472e4c6d196; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:49:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IooH0-0006Om-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IooGz-0006Od-L2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IooGw-0007Di-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27673EA0DA for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FCB3EA0B8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472E4C51.6080002@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:48:49 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.148 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF'ers Good copy at 22:30 of WD2XGJ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA022-8af474314a42df; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af474314a42df; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:08:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWaB-00023y-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWaA-00023p-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuWa8-000107-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:18 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044EADA4D8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:08:02 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071120170802.1e35dfb4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 EST G4gvw@aol.com wrote: > Looks good John! > =20 > What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the > soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape > variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? Hello Pat, LF, As an experimentally minded person I do of course keep an open mind on these matters, and conduct regular trials to determine which varietal gives the best results (both for soldering and for manual telegraphy!) Currently I find the Chilean Carmen=C3=A8re to be good value! Bottoms up! John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b0c473efda42e3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:41:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC028-b0c473efda42e3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:41:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItOrP-00056w-VP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItOrP-00056n-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItOrL-0004Z4-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:41:27 +0000 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DqcM1Y0040cZkys0500K00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:59 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dqgy1Y0081pKLLP0300000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Hqsx4TQKAnUVElxTR9EA:9 a=__6s1IVeILr4eotA3__iPi_3u9YA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <001b01c82927$de5d9f00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Cc: References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> <001d01c82920$3be7d300$f8277ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:40:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n The following cross posted from the US 500 kHz list: >I will hope to here the DX and if so will be riding Jay's shirttails on his >freq-Bob W2ZM Bob is WE2XGR/6, is located in western NY and running 3-4 dB more power than I am. Our antenna systems are roughly equal. His signal has been copied in EU. What isn't known yet is whether he'll be able to copy EU stations as far inland as he is. Bob is an excellent cw op so if anyone can pull it off, he can. Jay From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8cd4734a57f6f; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:23:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4734a57f6f; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqYV0-0000Nt-V1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqYV0-0000Nk-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqYUx-0002QI-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:22:34 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4873EA13B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:22:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CF83EA0CB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:22:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4734A551.6080304@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:22:09 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, I have just given in service my =93grabber=94 on 137 Khz , it will be=20 operational every night in direction of North America . You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with=20 this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ Are available the winter 2006/2007 Except this summer when the grabber was stopped . 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ada4738968718e; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:08:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4738968718e; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:08:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irdge-0005hS-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irdge-0005hJ-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irdga-0000mz-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:07:04 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071112180634.XYGT25022.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:34 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071112180633.ZSPA219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:33 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:06:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which makes QRSS harder. Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to 30s slow) : 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' Very noisy overnight. Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know if this frequency causes anyone a problem. de Mike, G3XDV ============ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b3d472c1ae3279; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:53:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC091-b3d472c1ae3279; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:53:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCrw-0001jJ-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCrw-0001jA-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoCrr-0001KZ-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:52:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5043EA0AD for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:52:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E433EA0AA for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:52:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472C1AAA.1020401@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:52:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.149 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , Merci pour les encouragements ! chaque jour je regarde bien les=20 captures de la nuit , je n'ai rien vu de significatif qui ne laisserai=20 aucun doute ! La propagation n'est pas encore au mieux ,( j'ai compar=E9=20 avec l'an pass=E9 et on est loin !!!! ) c'est au moment de la grayline=20 qu'il y a des bons signaux ( le matin ou le soir ) mais la nuit pas=20 vraiment de bons passages . Thank you for the encouragements! each day I look at well capture night,=20 I did not see anything of significant which will not leave any doubt!=20 The propagation is not yet as well as possible, (I compared with the=20 last year and one is far!!!! ) it is at the time of the grayline that=20 good signals (the morning or the evening) but the night ago not really=20 of good passages. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Thank-you J-P. There may have been a very weak trace on one of > your captures, but most likely it was my imagination. > > Thank-you for your continued efforts. The beacon remains > in operation. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > =20 >> Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : >> WD2XGJ and WD2XES >> >> On 189.95 kHz : >> Nil for VO1NA >> >> The captures of night are at : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >> >> 73 J-P f1afj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ab9473963d22a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:44:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB037-ab9473963d22a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:44:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrrMn-0007oC-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrrMn-0007o3-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrrMk-0001gX-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B664D3EA120 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704F33EA113 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47396399.7060204@online.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:05 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA074-a82474f2beb1b8; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:15:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA082-a82474f2beb1b8; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:15:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqj3-0002nB-DX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqj3-0002n2-1P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:13 +0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqj0-0004kR-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:12 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cbe.19639d30 (30739) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:14:54 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1196370894" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1196370894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Gary. John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to try and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham. Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps. Back on 503.7 now David In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Hi All, Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp -------------------------------1196370894 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Gary.
 
John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to t= ry=20 and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham.
 
Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps.  Back on 503.7= =20 now
 
David
 
 
In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi=20 All,

Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ?

I=20= am=20 seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about=20 1950utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT -=20 IO83qp

 
-------------------------------1196370894-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b6447408e461a1; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:11:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b6447408e461a1; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:11:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItpXA-0003yP-RH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItpXA-0003yG-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItpX6-0005VA-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:20 +0000 X-Trace: 636578807-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJocQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 19:10:09 +0000 Message-ID: <015601c82a16$a3475fb0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "Chris McCarthy" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711180904x769dcd8du78e25868533228e8@mail.gmail.com> <012101c82a09$3fec4460$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711181020o4dbc36femb234a5cf0861855b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:10:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.195 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Chris, OK, we all fall for that, RTFM. Thanks for the 100% copy, certainly looks like it works fine, narrow bandwidth & good copy & produced with simple equipment, class D Tx & DDS VFO using CW offset feature. Cheers, Gary _ G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Hello Garry, > > I should really read the manual! > > RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY > 2007-OV-18 18:15 UTC > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG > TESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G4WGT IO83QP TESTING > > Chris, G3XVL > > > > using 1.65D MMTY > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> Maybe the MMTTY is an different version, mine is 1.65B 2001-2004 & it >> only >> has 22bd selectable. >> >> I have just looked at the MMTTY web site :- >> >> http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/ >> >> & there is V1.65D available now. I will get that & have a look at it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Gary. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris McCarthy" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:04 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test >> >> >> > Hello Gary, >> > I've been in the shack most of the afternoon and keep coming back to >> > resolve your RTTY, without success. I just heard G3XIZ and G3YKB in QSO >> > using 45.45 and 85Hz shift. >> > >> > Perhaps its settings this end? >> > With my MMTY, I only have 22.5bd or 20 bd is that right? >> > >> > Chris, G3XVL >> > >> > >> > >> > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> >> shift >> >> over greater distances. >> >> >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> > >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b604740558b23e; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b604740558b23e; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItllX-0002be-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItllX-0002bV-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItllU-00024n-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02B7DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:08:46 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118150846.742d7bd4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. Hi LF,Gary, Just had 4 successful 100% decodes in a row - timestamps (per your data) 14:54, 14:57, 14:59, 15:02 No...wait.... number 5 just printing 100% too at 15:04 this is too easy John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9a7473c1a6d24; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:08:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a7473c1a6d24; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:07:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbcJ-0006bi-9e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsbcI-0006bZ-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:34 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.228]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsbcF-0007Mj-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:06:34 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W2 ([207.46.11.165]) by bay0-omc3-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:06:03 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.10] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:06:03 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2007 10:06:03.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A12080:01C8276F] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_" Subject: RE: LF: 501.1 kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can hear rttty too or something like it and in my case its from sideband g= umpf from a loudish Navtex transmitter - its actually noise on its tx baseba= nd (honest) =20 Laurence> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200> From: phl@netikka.fi> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 501.1 kHz> > Hello Roman, LF>=20= > I have also noticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has>= commented on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is cle= arly> audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode= it using> various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tried bu= t I'm not too> familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may well be betwee= n the chair and> the keyboard.> > 73's> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ> > > Quoting=20= ". Roman" :> > > Hi All!> >> >> >> > 505.1 kHz in Moscow t= onight:> >> > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg>=20= >> >> >> > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM> >> > 505.080 kHz rtty? who= is it?> >> >> >> > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3.> >> >> >> >> >> > --= > >> > 73!> >> > Roman, RW3ADB> >> >> >> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus=3D --_f0f6747d-f7f1-4330-8795-9c33452da1ab_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can hear rttty too or something like it and in my case its from sideband g= umpf from a loudish Navtex transmitter - its actually noise on its tx baseba= nd (honest)
 
Laurence

> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200
> From: phl= @netikka.fi
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF= : 501.1 kHz
>
> Hello Roman, LF
>
> I have also no= ticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has
> commente= d on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is clearly
&= gt; audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode i= t using
> various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tri= ed but I'm not too
> familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may we= ll be between the chair and
> the keyboard.
>
> 73's
&= gt;
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>
>
> Quoting ". Roman= " <rw3adb@yandex.ru>:
>
> > Hi All!
> >
&g= t; >
> >
> > 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight:
> ><= BR>> > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg> >
> >
> >
> > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.18= 0 kHz DI2AM
> >
> > 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it?
> &= gt;
> >
> >
> > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+= 3.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>=20= > --
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Roman, RW3AD= B
> >
> >
> >
>
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smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3fm-0007Uu-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:03:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 23139 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 21:02:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.33) with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2007 21:02:55 -0000 Message-ID: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:02:42 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been trying to post various versions of the following to the U.S. lowfer reflector for a half hour, but they are always rejected as spam. I'll post it here! In an article on the ARRL site: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/11/02/102/?nc=1 An allocation at 135.7-137.8 kHz is still wending its way through the process. At this point, two footnotes have been added. One would limit the power to 1 watt EIRP. The other would allow countries in Region I to opt out of permitting the allocation. Also, for some reason, Saudi Arabia appears to be objecting to the whole idea. On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more restrictive EIRP, right? And the opt-out for Region I is probably a concession to the Saudis. It'll be interesting on a number of levels to see how the U.S. votes when the final package is ready. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9be472f99002fe; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:28:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME062-9be472f99002fe; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:28:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAQP-0001Jv-3H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAQO-0001Jm-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:04 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAQM-0004mR-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:04 +0000 Received: from MGreenw969@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cf9.1fe9acee (48600) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: MGreenw969@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:27:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5034 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 kz tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194301671" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194301671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2225 GI4DPE 599, very loud in IO93cn calling cq. 73 de Mike -------------------------------1194301671 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2225 GI4DPE 599, very loud in IO93cn calling cq.
 
73 de Mike
-------------------------------1194301671-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-95a472b56a437b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:56:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF048-95a472b56a437b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:56:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzoA-0005kP-64 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inzo9-0005kG-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout0173.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.173] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inzo5-0004Rc-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.93) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0025976F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c81d71$3157b280$5debfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:53:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Decca Jeep Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all I wonder how many old 5501 Decca jeeps are still in use on 136 khz, they are such a big heap, and require odd ball voltages. It is so easy to build a compact custom designed class D/E FET amplifier for both 136 and 500 that the jeep mods are not worth bothering about. I have two relegated to the cellar and a man near Hull stripped 5 transmitters for scrap, no amateurs in the area wanted them. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-194472a0468399; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:53:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB44-194472a0468399; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:52:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IndGp-0000WC-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IndGp-0000W3-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout0184.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.184] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IndGm-0000L5-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:51 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.54) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D00249364 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:51:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c81ca7$6d691ae0$36e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:26:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.746 Subject: LF: 500 XBAND Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all I always check 3533/7033 khz plus/minus qrm when active on 500 khz. This has been very rewarding with lots of real time reports from EU stns not active transmitting on 500. I likewise also listen on 500 at the same time and have separate antennas and rigs as appropriate for the job with QSK facilities. I have observed other UK stns also working xband and this is to be encouraged. One French stn told me he has heard 20 UK stns so far on 500. Xband is not new, it has been going on for years and especially in the early 6 metre days 6/10 m was very popular, also 73/136 khz to 1.8/3.5 Mhz. It would be useful if RADCOM published this information. News about LF/MF activities are rare these days in RADCOM. I have submitted information and a photograph of my rig but it has not appeared. It would also be interesting to see other persons rigs, antennas and other details. There are overseas stations as far away as Cyprus listening for 500 acty, so you might get a call xband sooner than you think. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-916474160fb246; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:10:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD076-916474160fb246; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:10:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu3YG-0006Fo-BJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu3YE-0006Ff-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu3Y9-00030b-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:20 +0000 X-Trace: 627933875-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIrvQEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 10:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: <005701c82a94$160a9da0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000001c82a33$86c03020$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:08:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-2, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9d34741c8453b9; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:31:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d34741c8453b9; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuARK-0007Ig-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuARJ-0007IX-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:41 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuARG-0003TD-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:29:41 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cf9.217da653 (37139) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from MBLK-M37 (mblk-m37.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.81]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA031-91134741c7f02c; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:20 -0500 References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47414778.2000405@online.fr> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <47414778.2000405@online.fr> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: markusvester@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL eMail 31361-STANDARD Received: from 217.194.34.103 by MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:29:19 -0500 Message-Id: <8C9F8E8DA2A0229-D8-237@MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.747,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: Donebach QRM cleared Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi LF, the reported Donebach splatters have apparently been fixed. Last Friday=20 (Nov 16th), I talked to one of the transmitter operators on the phone=20 and explained the problem. He said they hadn't noticed anything unusual=20 but promised to take a look. Don't know what they finally did or=20 stopped doing, but a couple of hours later (11:57 UT) the nasty noises=20 disappeared completely, and have not returned since. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ________________________________________________________________________ Bei AOL gibt's jetzt kostenlos eMail f=C3=BCr alle. Klicken Sie auf AOL.de=20 um heraus zu finden, was es sonst noch kostenlos bei AOL gibt. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a004741fdfc272; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:20:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a004741fdfc272; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:19:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE1I-0007kl-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE1I-0007kc-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuE1F-0004is-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:19:04 +0000 X-Trace: 637102715-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALqLQUdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 21:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <00fb01c82af1$cad598e0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <004001c82adf$6d0707b0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:18:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071119-0, 19/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.193 Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Lubos, LF, Thanks for locator, I did not have that with your beacon details, I will now update my list. The distance is 1455 Km according to QRB & QTE software. Regards, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_QRA Hallo Gary and ALL! Yes, I am sure now, it was your RTTY signal. My locator is JN88KS. The same like QRA of my beacon OK0EMW. 73 and GL on 500kHz Lubos, OK2BVG ********************************************* -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more Lubos, Well it certainly looks like it. The transmission runs for about 1.5 minutes followed by a 1 minute receive period & the trace on your capture does show that, also seeing the upper & lower tones of the RTTY. Thank you very much for the report. What is your locator please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: LF: [500] 503_600_RTTY_once more > Hi Gary and ALL! > And RTTY once more, the signal is increased. > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ********************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. > > Hi LF, > > No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as > before. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b9e473631001ee; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD098-b9e473631001ee; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqyqL-0006Ho-Di for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqyqL-0006Hf-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqyqI-0008VD-6p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c9f.1ab50166 (30737) for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:30:07 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 502 RTTY G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194733807" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194733807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2007 20:37:30 GMT Standard Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Hello LF, Chris, In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN. Seeing G0MRF too. QRN level low Really busy picture on your grabber at the moment (22.25) Always a good sign when 5mW travels 900km. BTW, I can see something on the grabber on 504.44. I wonder if that's one of the US stations. Thanks David G0MRF -------------------------------1194733807 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/11/2007 20:37:30 GMT Standard Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Hello=20 LF, Chris,

In RX only mode tonight. Hearing G3KEV, G4WGT and GI3PDN= .=20 Seeing G0MRF
too. QRN level low
 
Really busy picture on your grabber at the moment (22.25)
 
Always a good sign when 5mW travels 900km.
 
BTW, I can see something on the grabber on 504.44.  I wonder if th= at's=20 one of the US stations. 
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
-------------------------------1194733807-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD021-b99472b52861b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:38:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b99472b52861b; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:38:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzWo-0005bO-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InzWn-0005bF-N5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:49 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InzWk-0006CF-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:37:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E45AE1C00086 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:37:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.58.113]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BF0CB1C00085 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:37:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102163739782.BF0CB1C00085@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:37:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.101 Subject: LF: 501.5 .. who ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-696472a28303a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB64-696472a28303a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InffI-0001AM-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InffH-0001AD-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:15 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InffC-0000Hr-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:25:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 24198 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 18:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.153.198.35 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 18:58:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EXQWBvwVM1ls9X6O9ylvttagPGPqaAZvGn3Mc.89ywZGtQiKUmVpZoiEfUAY1Nrkb4W4gcwA.uNmM0sLxGN9N1OEcCFd5KwjpXmssdEjaBfh7jtm From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472A21BB.24927.2AE0C2C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 1 Nov 2007 at 18:26, hamilton mal wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz > De G3KEV > > This is a known NDB beacon, though very little seems to be known about it. The only references I can find are at: http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/unidsounds.htm http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/neuqsl.htm Which says 'PAT - 499.3 kHz (100kb): - This beacon was heard operating over the Christmas period again, and this recording was made at 2250 utc on the 25th of December 2006. This occasional beacon is believed to operate from the Irish Republic.' So nothing new.... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-af14729da8235a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:54:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14729da8235a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:54:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InaTl-0008UV-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InaTk-0008UM-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:00 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InaTh-0003GO-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 15BA7700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:52:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.33.140]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CBE8C7000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:52:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101135251835.CBE8C7000083@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : >>>>..... No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! .....<<<< 'Steady on old boy', J , On the contrary, we can all radiate signals. its just that the receiving stations are in the wrong place's , I'm sure , during the height of 'beacon bedlam' a lot of stations where introduced to the concept of 'service area' Birmingham, as the radiation fly's is about 75 miles from my location and looks to represent the limit of reliable communications , may be a touch less at round the 60 mark. When I can see a trace, I can reduce the power to a couple of mW erp and still see the trace, and thats over land ... After 60 miles, what happens its anyone's guess, At the change of state, for want of a better description, there looks to be a 150/250 mile hop, during which time reasonable signals may be expected, but once again, if your outside the limits, nothing, Interestingly, the mobile station, who was relaying signal reports, co-incidentally, while I ran the 'olivia' data test, reported good signals from his location sw of Darby , checking his location, he was about 100 miles range at 5/600 feet asl , that's some 500 feet above my location ..The trace at Birmingham, had all but gone , too close for skip ? Height help's ? Later after sunset, falling into a long skip round the 1000 mile mark, During which times , good traces can be seen at Shetland and , Wolf has posted many 'good' signal reports, from discussions with those who use the band in the past, 1/2000 miles was the expected norm for the northern hemisphere and 4/5000 miles for the southern. the north/south allways strikes me as 'odd' Ok, may be a few more watts and reception by-ear , but with the level of digital processing in use now, looks like 'we' can 'see' we are living up to expectations, It's just that we cannot actually 'hear' the other station . ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report > On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 > "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > > >> So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is >> down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic >> earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! >> > > Dave, LF, > > The other option is more power of course! If your antenna is > inefficient due to low radiation resistance you need more current and > if it's poor because of high environmental losses you need more driving > power to get the current. > > I tried a simple vertical 2 weeks ago in an attempt to eliminate the > top loading wires for the winter (got tired of them breaking free in > the gales). > > The antenna was 11m with no top-capacity loading and using a > professional FSM I found that with 80W TX power and 0.9A RF current > at the feed-point I got an ERP of only 85mW. > > I relented and installed some top-loading. With 4 x 7m long capacity > loading wires running down the upper guys (not a long horizontal > stretch), and only 30W TX power, I achieved 140mW ERP. > > The bare vertical was very inefficient due to low Rrad, as there was > plenty of current flowing, almost 1A. > > The top loading however gave 6dB gain in ERP! I also found the overall > R dropped considerably with the longer top-load wires (previously I'd > used 3.5m long loading wires), needing large change in matching > transformer taps to get back to 50 ohms. The overall losses must be > lower. Probably due in part to needing much less L to bring it to > resonance, and fewer losses in the loading coil. > > If I couldn't improve the ground losses, which I find I can't either > (very wet peat on rock isn't great!) I'd put more power into the > antenna, which I do. I find that with a real "QRP" TX of ~5W I'd not be > heard by anyone except in the most perfect of conditions. At least you > have some locals to work I suppose. > > My nearest regular stations are Mal and Finbar - both over 600km away, > even Mark GM4ISM is 500km+ and he's a "GM"! > > No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! > > I heard Chris G3XVL call/work you on Tuesday and strained my ears, and > eyes on the waterfall, but could see nothing more than the very faintest > hint of a signal between his overs. > > > More power Igor! > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-95d4743043d1b6; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:59:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF053-95d4743043d1b6; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:59:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuVSb-0001nv-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuVSX-0001nm-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuVSQ-0001pB-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:56:17 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A56C0008BCB2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:55:45 +0100 Message-ID: <47430398.8000702@telia.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:56:08 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, for proper class E operation, the drain waveform must be allowed to be non-symmetrical so you cannot just use a center tapped output transformer. In other words, there must be no "hard coupling" between the drains in a class E push-pull amplifier. One way is to design two identical class E amplifiers, each designed for an output power P into the load R. Note: Each amplifier must have its own DC feeding choke - no center tapped stuff here! Then feed these two amplifiers with push-pull drive (180 degrees phase shift) and connect the primary winding of an output transformer between the outputs of the two amplifiers. The output transformer should be designed so that 2*R will be "seen" when "looking" into the primary. The total output power will be 2*P. With sufficient Q in the series tanks (C2, L), the output current will be almost sinusoidal, as in the single ended case, so the two halves of the amplifier will not "know" that they are actually operating in push-pull. Since the two series resonant tanks of the two amplifiers and the output transformer primary will all be connected in series, you can simplify the circuit by using a single resonant tank with twice the L and half the C. This may look assymetrical but it gives exactly the same result (a few pF stray C can be neglected at these low frequencies...). One can say that this is simply two class E amplifiers connected in series. However, the even harmonic cancelling property of push-pull is still there because of circuit (and drive) symmetry. I have tried this configuration, for example on 160m QRP, and it seems to work very well. 73 Johan SM6LKM hamilton mal skrev: > Hi all > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > someone has a push pull design. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-b744734892040; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:22:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD046-b744734892040; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:21:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqWag-0007zu-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqWag-0007zl-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqWab-0007Eq-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:20:17 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Nov 2007 16:20:07 -0000 Received: from p54854D22.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.77.34] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 09 Nov 2007 17:20:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/q0AF5QjXq1JEjf/jEKwd4WKQziiXuMVx92QBMPn 6YtSwuvCixJVAa Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:20:05 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1618263390.20071109172005@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 8/9 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Copied WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS last night Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.266 kHz in QRSS3. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-e1472b94f9316; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e1472b94f9316; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:22:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3xZ-0007Eh-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io3xY-0007EY-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io3xT-0007Y5-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78C3B1C00087 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:21:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 01DDB1C00086 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:21:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102212134776.01DDB1C00086@mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003801c81d96$61193140$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB><20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com><003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> <20071102090053.045dfdf1@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:21:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.096 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 "Graham" wrote: > Good point's john . Thanks Graham, This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my location! On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the effect of differing local noise floors! As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. >>>>>> Now that's a interesting point, that separates this 'band' >>>>>> rom -VLF- . To date the printed word talks of radio blackout during >>>>>> sun-up .. true the sun has a effect, however : I have copied >>>>>> stations from the south coast devon I think, and south wales at 1200 >>>>>> hrs and at the same time Finbars beacon , about 200 so miles from >>>>>> the other direction . not quite what you would expect , reading the >>>>>> books ! <<<<<<<< > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low,< I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky enough to be able to try these things ;-) All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, even in daytime. >>>>> I think this is one of those , digital moment's I was talking >>>>> about, , you can copy or you cannot , bit like 6 mtrs , I saw a >>>>> interesting presentation from a 160 mtr dxperdition, where there >>>>> contacts , with the usa , when potted on a map ,showed patterns of >>>>> cluster's , nothing like the 'uniform front' the books present .. >>>>> !<<<<<<< It's a simple equation..... If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. >>>>>>> problem there is simply s/n at the rx , as you point out , you can >>>>>>> here then , but they cannot resolve your signal , the rx stations >>>>>>> are in the wrong place hihi or you need to increase you output to >>>>>>> improve the remote s/n ratio . this where 'we' may do better with >>>>>>> digital modes <<<<<<< > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense > of the word .. > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna producing them>>> >>>>> that's not always the case , odd as it may seem ! that was one of the >>>>> 'funny' things that was noticed on 6 mtrs when we first got the nov to >>>>> tx a long time ago <<<<< G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 > "Graham" wrote: > >> Good point's john . > > Thanks Graham, > > This is an interesting discussion, but I think we're seeing things from > different perspectives, since you are used to groundwave and skip-zones > and such, whereas I'm in the strictly "DX sky wave" camp due to my > location! > > >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles >>>to be heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with >>>seeming >>>ease. > >> But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip >> distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission >> losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the >> skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation >> for semi local stations >> > > I was initially directing my "more power" point to stations like Dave > G3YMC who complain that they hear the "DX" stations like myself yet > fail to heard by those same stations. > > This isn't a question of extending the ground-wave signal further into > the "skip-zone" it's a question of radiating a similar level of power > than the remote station that you're already hearing and who is > obviously therefore in "skip range". > > The question of how much TX power is necessary needs to be addressed by > each station individually due to differences in antenna efficiencies. > > To say "5W" or "10W" or "25W" is "enough to generate 100mW" is plain > wrong. > > The power needed is just that - "the power needed" - whether it be 5W > or 200W. > > > On the non-reciprocal nature of noise levels, I know all about the > effect of differing local noise floors! > > As an example I regularly (ie without fail) hear G3UNT in > broad daylight even in Summer, yet, due to the higher noise floor Brian > has, I have never been received myself by him in daylight. > > >> >> The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, > > I wouldn't know anything about this, as I've never been in the position > of hearing/working a good "local" groundwave range station. I'll leave > all discussion of the effects of increasing range, from the groundwave > region into the skip-zone and out the other side, to those lucky > enough to be able to try these things ;-) > > > All my contacts must be from some form of sky-wave path. I can hear/work > Mal G3KEV at any time of day. Even at >600km he's my nearest neighbour > but I'd guess (Alan can confirm this) that groundwave plays no part, > even in daytime. > > >> >> For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , >> 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) >> reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. > > Conversely, my AR7030, even with a wideband 4kHz IF filter to feed the > grabber, shows no S-meter deflection in the daytime. > > With a narrow 300Hz CW filter I can even use 30dB of extra RF > pre-amplification to good effect to pull out the likes of G3UNT from > the noise. > > Brian runs (I think) quite modest power yet is audible 24/7 here. > > Have a listen to what he sounds like with 10Hz filter in at > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/g3kev_g3unt_clip_22_09_07.mp3 > > This was recorded at 10:25UTC on 22 Sept. > > >>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate >>>highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to >>>do so.<<< > >> 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach >> something in the region of 100mW , > > > I agree. That's what I use to get 100mW ERP. > > However, I don't think Dave runs even 25W though, and his antenna, by > his own admission, is very inefficient due to his sandy soil so he's > doubly handicapped:- > > Low TX power and poor efficiency. > > It's a simple equation..... > > If your antenna is more inefficient than this example "small system" , > perhaps due to poor ground/environmental losses then more than 25W is > needed. If it takes 100W or 200W then so be it. > > One good thing about the OFCOM power limit being in terms of ERP and > not TX power is it should allow a level playing field, with everyone > being prepared to engineer their systems appropriately to meet the > limit, unless specifically interested in much lower ERPs for some > other reason. > > I'd much rather (and I have) bite the bullet, build a bigger TX and try > to at least comfortably reach the 100mW ERP limit, after all 100mW is > tiny enough, but to purposefully restrict yourself further seems > pointless if your aim is aural, manual CW QSOs. > > > > We need to make QSOs while we have access to the band. A log book full > of "called CQ, no reply" or "called GM4SLV, no reply" is of little > scientific value, or emotional value, as is a log book full of "worked > GxXXX again. RST599 as always, but then he's only 10 miles away" > > > We need to push the boat out now and put out as good a signal as > possible to get some work done on the band while we've got it. If it > takes a 200W TX then do it! > > >> >> May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense >> of the word .. >> > > No, we have an analogue band where signal strengths rise at the remote > location in direct relationship the the current flow in the antenna > producing them. The limiting factor is S/N ratio. Overcome the noise > and you'll be heard, assuming there's some propagation path. In Dave's > case I'd say that if can hear a station then there obviously is a path. > > > The answer, I'm afraid, is > > "More Power Igor!" > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: > 11/1/2007 18:47 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a3c4734951c13; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:13:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4734951c13; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:13:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqXPJ-0008Gd-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqXPI-0008GU-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:36 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqXPF-0001Vm-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:12:36 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqXOu-0000TN-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:12 +0100 Received: from f054161062.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.161.62]:1070 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IqXOt-0006eb-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:12 +0100 Message-ID: <473494F0.3070301@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:12:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, you wrote: > Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine > transmission? I have forwarded the question to Renato, and indeed the 82 Hz signal is from a Russian transmitter at Kola peninsula. 73, Wolf . (soon back on 137 kHz, if the antenna survives the storm expected in northern DL later tonight) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-17f472f2d28388; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:48:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB23-17f472f2d28388; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:48:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3F5-0000mT-Cy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3F4-0000mK-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:54 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3F1-0006rf-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:54 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 471A89B900445B19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:47:24 +0100 Message-ID: <472F2CFD.8050305@telia.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:47:25 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Please put me on the list too. 73 Johan SM6LKM James Moritz wrote: > If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-acd47309edb266; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:06:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB063-acd47309edb266; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:05:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRrV-0000CC-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRrU-0000C3-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:12 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpRrP-0000px-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 31122 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2007 16:53:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UGS0Zbjkgh5XnApnakYx9aMzR5ySAiWTkFmyFcXyAVeLd9kQV6mP8mkecye7IkqGIJmkkntPtY5JoXVEdBu3sxnBOIOYo+XEGIYi4cPhMFAcScEEKH6mr9XgaA3GVuJokFoj0ToM1YdGmj9aK2mfErLkYyEEquIUaQoBCzKGiYA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.15.155 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2007 16:53:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hYqoLi4VM1ljPe80l271L8BmIs7mxl.pbkCuya_tBgQSYImL3rzqPH4tEmiwVSjEE48tFadZUA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1112]); Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:52:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82095$5f3cdfa0$9b0f7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> <004301c8207c$b17be720$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:52:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.126 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Graham, For a CW output, as Alan said, it isn't a square wave - or any other wave really, apart from a tiny amount of RF ripple. For the class E, and the usual "current switching" Class D circuits, the DC current is fed via an RF choke - in order not to knock the circuit out of tune, the choke needs a reasonably high reactance at the operating frequency, which means that the RF current in the choke must be relatively tiny compared to the DC current. The small RF ripple current will be further soaked up by the supply decoupling capacitors, so what is coming out of the DC supply should be nearly pure DC. It is slightly different with "voltage switching" class D stages, such as the one used in the 500kHz EER system. There, the output devices draw current direct from the supply rail, and large, low-impedance decoupling capacitors are an essential feature of the PA. But in such a design, you will always want to have additional DC supply decoupling choke/capacitor filtering to prevent RF currents circulating in external parts of the circuit, so again the DC feed to the PA stage will be nearly pure DC. So unless a switching PA (or any other PA for that matter) has awful decoupling, you should not need to worry about measuring anything other than DC votage and current from the power supply. Measuring the input and output powers under dynamic, modulated conditions is another thing - how you do it will depend on what you are trying to measure - peak power, mean power, mean efficiency, instantaneous efficiency, etc. But since the modulation level varies relatively slowly compared to the RF signals in the PA, the efficiency of the PA at any particular output level will not be much different from what you measure under CW conditions at that level - which is certainly much easier to do. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Hi Alan, .. Thats the point , >>>>(((((Note that it is not a 50% squarewave)))). Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies.<<<< Its a good system , I was noting a lot of 'posts' referring to , P=I*V , , even if it was a 1:1 square wave, you would still need either a form factor , or better still , a 'true rms' meter . to make the final measurement , assuming it has sufficient bandwidth , A scope with a floating differential input , measuring across a very low 'passive' resistance would do the trick .. .. Its a bit like measuring the peak power out of a ssb set , do you measure the peak envalope power , by peak votatage and calculate the power and then mult by 0.707 to get the rms level .or just take the peak ... or just dont ask ? Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? > Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked > at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the > choke > is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when > it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The > choke > tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is > what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt > cap > are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current, > so > the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show > "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design > criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs > are > really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high > efficiencies at similar frequencies. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc > feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's > , > past P = I*V ? > > Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing > 'spurious side bands' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. > The > output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 > pole LPF. > For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good > calibrated scope and a quality DL > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? > > > ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more > like > a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to > get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally > measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a > issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on > the > leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area > under > the curve' ? > > G .. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > >> Hi all >> Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work >> out. How are the % figures measured. >> One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) >> then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R >> be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the >> Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> > > Again...with my TX > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency = 78% > > > The math's is trivial..... > > 18.7V x 3.4A = 63.58W DC input > > 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against > a ÂŁ20,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) > > Efficiency = Power Out / Power In > > > 50 / 63.58 = 0.786 > > Hence 78.6% efficient. > > Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary > quantities then the end result will be meaningless. > > Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and > good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 > ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? > > With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your > measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency > calculated to be really way out. > > Say (plucked out of thin air example):- > > DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) > > 13.8V at 5.3A = 73.14W > > > > RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load > > 1.17A in 50 ohms = 68.4W > > Efficiency = 93.6% > > > > If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... > > I = 1.23A in 50 ohms = 75W Out > > Efficiency = 103% > > Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual > motion machine..... > > > > If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... > > 1.17A in 49 ohms = 67W > > Efficiency = 91.7% > > > > Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes > syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie > down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. > The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce > serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce > 150W on 500kHz. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 > 21:46 > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a5f4742aec188; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:54:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA037-a5f4742aec188; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:54:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPmt-0000jA-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPms-0000j1-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:58 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPmm-0007A3-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:56 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:52:47 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:52:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c82b5b$1739a050$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:51:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 09:52:47.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AB866D0:01C82B5B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgr2011.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82B63.605D40E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture we2xgr/2 freq.506.5khz time:12.24z qrss3 jo22mb henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C82B63.605D40E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB36-18c473a59d7258; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7kx-00028x-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is7kw-00028o-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:30 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is7ks-0008Eq-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:30 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CRnu1Y0050vp7WL0102S00; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:22 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CSDM1Y00C1pKLLP0000000; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:13:22 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JFJl-n1UV3vCnJ0V-34A:9 a=R2umtVu1wEqqFKIAySULbiyb1dQA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <001e01c82663$ec788bc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.290 Subject: LF: GI / W QSO on 500 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Just completed...an aural cw contact between GI4DPE and WE2XGR/2. GI4DPE was transmitting on 501.3 kHz and WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz. Distance, according to grid square calculator, 4890 km / 3039 miles. Although QRN on XGR/2 end made copy somewhat difficult at times there were several exchanges of call signs, signal reports and other 'pleasantries'. Finbar appeared to have excellent copy on his end. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB34-ce473086bc19a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:57:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB26-ce473086bc19a; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:22:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpQFT-0008Fh-6i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpQFS-0008FY-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpQFQ-0003vE-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:50 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB41DA4D6 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:19:42 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071106151942.2ca987e9@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz Sound files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I've just been adding a few sound clips to my web-pages of recent signals received. I keep forgetting to record stuff, but have recently captured G3LDO working G3XIZ, GW4HXO at around 1500 UTC, both in beacon mode and during a failed QSO attempt. Best of all - G4GDR in Swindon calling CQ with a 5W valve TX. I also found some recordings of G3UNT calling CQ in full daylight, GI3PDN at night and some of G3OLB during our QSO back in August. The files have been re-encoded down to 64kb/s to make them smaller and faster to download too! http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/sounds.htm Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF011-941474e6ae22e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:32:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF017-941474e6ae22e0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:31:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixdr3-00019x-6p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixdr2-00019o-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:36 +0000 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixdqx-0007Vp-I2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:30:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.98]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168F8145 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.20]) by localhost (cas-filter3.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id q1u581qduyon for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from Willem1 (5357B72B.cable.casema.nl [83.87.183.43]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC138142 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Willem de Roode" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:30:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c83259$ba0691d0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgyWbmDSQfFG0DXSKOjeMK5iJHUnQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C83262.1BCAF9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C83262.1BCAF9D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wd2xgj In jo22mb Wim pa3ego Best 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C83262.1BCD43C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a7473e582987; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItDq6-0003Qe-5O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItDq5-0003QV-Au for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:21 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItDq1-0005pq-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:21 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Deul1Y0090vyq2s0500200; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:13 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dev81Y0052Uxt080300000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vLmf1AHGfGGT0W3J7K4A:9 a=cnrI9IernICdRUQbPhUA:7 a=-ZM7Ihi0uR58mZroJbfet9qTwWoA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <1861025E7DF54B8980D2F2B1DE596719@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000801c8286b$6cfc60b0$0fe8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:55:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Mal, > That same night I heard > WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked > him but he was in beacon mode. The WD2XSH stations are NOT authorized to contact amateur stations - only other U.S. "X" stations. HOWEVER, the WE2XGR stations ARE authorized to QSO foreign amateur stations. That's because I requested permission to contact amateur stations in the license application for WE2XGR whilst the ARRL did not receive nor request such permission. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > Hi John > I did work VE1ZZ who gave me 549 when I popped out of the qsb at 0117 utc. > I > had been 339 for some time before this. It was a good qso and he got his > report etc solid from me. Unfortunately condx have taken a dip since. I > need > another opening like this for a qso with the USA. That same night I heard > WD2XSH/17 on 505.63 khz at 559 on normal cw and probably could have worked > him but he was in beacon mode. I have not heard him since. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX > > >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 >> "hamilton mal" wrote: >> >> > Hi all >> > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing >> > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the >> > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out >> >> Hello Mal and LF group, >> >> I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening >> (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. >> >> >> I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that >> night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may >> have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed >> the late night excitement. >> >> Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in >> which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this >> month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in >> stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and >> finally 10mW. >> >> At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent >> a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX >> power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together >> fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers >> correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine >> what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? >> >> Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my >> audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while >> driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've >> heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear >> Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to >> Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard >> from Dave later in the evening. >> >> >> >> The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this >> becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. >> >> >> Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. >> >> John GM4SLV >> Clousta, Shetland >> IP90gg >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.148]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-6e247431de7271; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:48:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC68-6e247431de7271; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:48:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuXCU-0002D6-Tu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuXCU-0002Cx-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuXCQ-0001Rz-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from kc3ol.dynip.com ([72.128.40.136]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20071120174739.RJXL28763.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@kc3ol.dynip.com> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:47:39 +0000 Received: from kc3olvista by kc3ol.dynip.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000044555.msg for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:37 -0600 From: "Ted Holdahl" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:01 -0600 Message-ID: <00da01c82b9d$5b50f030$11f2d090$@dynip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgrhzwpfzVDs/BLTFGzyzvheXKA6wAFZ3jw Content-Language: en-us X-Spam-Processed: kc3ol.dynip.com, Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:47:37 -0600 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: holdahl@kc3ol.dynip.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Mal, I am using a class E PA on 137.777 kHz. It is an IRFP260N MOSFET driven by a MC34151. Efficiency is about 89% and the output power is 290 watts. Ted, WD2XYW ___________________ www.kc3ol.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:56 AM To: rsgb Subject: LF: CLASS E Hi all Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe someone has a push pull design. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b8c472f9cff249; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:45:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c472f9cff249; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:45:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAgq-0001eW-70 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAgp-0001eN-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAgm-0005C1-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:45:03 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cce.1cc3a037 (52333) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (acb3ae92.ipt.aol.com [172.179.174.146]) by ciaaol-d05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD057-cc6d472f9cbb315; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <472EC6FF.8040304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: -132: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: XGJ, Holmes Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.B73D91D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.B73D91D0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Warren & LF, on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this evening - really magnificent in binoculars! 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(/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.143 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest 189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com 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h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=crEIrDdOk+q6aZ164g4JxMyiUDvHiny5N8dnZiNAlGlwnGBsjNopywdzEGfSyb7gVu+RgLhIxBvuoyNCfiTpNiEwjihNLQ6IyR05G7U8fl8/2yvXv07oqmATDn3h3puKGfjfeF7Vba5zY7xQPI9+Fji5Ib6bcqXljxLUGy6uDN8=; X-YMail-OSG: ABNfYBsVM1kQxbAPFevgU6XzDq9_WlM3D2F3eXTBxJXCkiUbUzU1xGl3rehdqlEiCx9NvgJrv9jcMxLp600iAgHAEixunIdhEYZ9m3M_dxx7IQDBsUNov4WUsrY- Received: from [78.149.54.242] by web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:55 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Thayne To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <244962.22142.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: re: LF:503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John I just came in and heard G4WGT test and rows of 5 dots. Good signal 559 on 503.6khz. Mike, G3GMS IO95GB Re. message I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-693473ab71c25; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:52:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB61-693473ab71c25; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:51:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDyD-00030p-5X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDyC-00030g-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:36 +0000 Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDy9-0003V1-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:36 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IsDxn-0004gB-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:11 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:51:09 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c8269b$837f17f0$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acgmm32xl9ZB6PMtSCaHqabe10e4Lg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + News coming from the Conference is that agenda item 1.15 relating to 136 kHz passed the second reading and a global allocation at 135.7-137.8 kHz looks to be a reality when the Final Acts are signed Friday. I guess it will still need National administrtations to put in place actual allocations, where they don't already exist. 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-95a472f8434359; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:59:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF048-95a472f8434359; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:59:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip92W-0007zq-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip92W-0007zh-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip92S-0003ug-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:20 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D1DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:30 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105205830.092a3d6e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <30820.40736.qm@web26008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: re. LF QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Mike Thayne wrote: > Hi John > > I was out of the house for your earlier tests but I have been hearing > you from 2000z to now 2040z with some QSB from 339 to 449. Can > see/read you on the waterfall but bursts of static spoiling the > display. Will continue to monitor until 2100 but then have to go QRT. > > cheers > > Mike > G3GMS > > Thanks Mike and everyone else. I'm now going to QRP to 10mW ERP (approx) from 2W TX power from 21:00 until approx 22:30 Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9a747395f5a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:25:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a747395f5a6; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:25:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr3Z-0007cA-8t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irr3Y-0007c1-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:36 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irr3W-0004iE-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:36 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC04DA4D8 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071113082327.5ca545bd@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Extended Grabber range Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 k2ors@comcast.net wrote: > John, > What is the URL for the grabber? Is it set for cw or QRSS? > > Thanks, > Sorry LF, forgot the URL http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm It's QRSS-3 speed Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1bb472f62ff205; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:40:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC23-1bb472f62ff205; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:37:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6pO-0005IL-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6pO-0005IC-3k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6pK-0000ui-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588ACDA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:37:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:37:27 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > Hello John, > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > Chris > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > Thanks Chris and Dave. Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b29474f2ab13bd; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:10:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b29474f2ab13bd; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:10:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqdz-0002hT-Dj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqdz-0002hK-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqdu-0001ny-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:58 +0000 X-Trace: 641768259-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALK5TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:09:24 +0000 Message-ID: <00c101c832cc$1e7747f0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.191 Subject: LF: Loran Anthorn Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Can anyone tell me how to calculate the extra lines produced by Loran Anthorn on 137 KHz. I now have twice as many lines as before which are not shown on my spreadsheet list of line frequencies previously seen. My location is considerably closer to Anthorn than Rugby although I would have thought that if the pulse generation is the same I will still see the same lines but stronger. Any comments please. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a0e47443d1a71; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:14:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG048-a0e47443d1a71; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:13:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuqKY-0005Pw-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuqKU-0005Pn-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0142.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.142] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuqKQ-0000DJ-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:26 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003EC279 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:05 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,217b7d146d527493,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2828:3027:3318:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3872:3873:5007:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000c01c82c48$a1cf8b60$51d0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev><47430398.8000702@telia.com><000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev><20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local><003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:20:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n You were a late starter on 500. I would say you have missed a lot. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E > > and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for > > correct operation. > > I didn't miss it Mal... > > > Nowhere have I seen your reported: > > DC Input Volts/Current > RF Output Power > Efficiency > > > Others have replied to you with their own measured efficiency vs power > so perhaps you can furnish us with the same. After all you've certainly > made some exhaustive optimisations of the output tuning components to > achieve the perfect class E drain waveforms. > > > John > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a5b4737856267; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:43:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b4737856267; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:42:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLVi-0003ET-4o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLVh-0003EK-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLVd-0006q5-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071111224212m1200gpdmpe>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:22 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:10 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "F6CWN" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:42:10 +0000 Message-Id: <111120072242.24223.47378542000E72CB00005E9F22007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jeff, What means WAOUH ? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "F6CWN" > WAOUH! > > 73: Jeff (F6CWN) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM > Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! > > > Hello LF , > > Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-19b4730487e259; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:57:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB51-19b4730487e259; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:57:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpM6p-0007Ti-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpM6p-0007TZ-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpM6n-0008CD-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:56:39 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC8DA4D8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:56:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:54:11 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071106105411.120e22cc@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: -781: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:09:34 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > John > Your beacon was peaking S5 at 1732z then qsa 0 for periods and up > again, characteristic of insufficient power for the freq at that time. > It is the same on HF with qrp stns, in and out of the noise, whereas > qro stns are solid copy. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Thanks Mal, This was the purpose of the test and you've confirmed my own thoughts on the matter. A few dB makes a huge difference when signals are close to the noise - the difference between "workable" and "not there". I'm speaking only of ear-copied CW. QRP, in and of itself, is fine. I'm a G-QRP Club member (#2377) and rarely exceed 10W on HF. I know 5W is the QRP "limit" and I do often work at 5W or less. I find an extra 3dB, up to 10W, makes a massive difference at times. It's almost never necessary to exceed 10W for most purposes. On 500 it looks like really low ERPs can occasionally be used there is a practical limit to getting workable S/N ratios. For reasonable path lengths this seems to be at the very least 25mW ERP and up. Any lower and it's a very, very hit and miss affair. All depends of course on the receiving station's noise levels. Trying to run at 10W or less is not really going to net many longer range QSOs except under very good conditions. Thanks to all who sent reports. It was a useful exercise. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-95c474c83e2192; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:54:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c474c83e2192; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:53:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix7QS-0005cS-Ao for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:53:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix7QR-0005cJ-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix7QN-0001Xt-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:59 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2321CDA4D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:47 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071127205247.2974c279@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: 500kHz SM-GM QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I have just had a QSO with Gus SM6BHZ. He emailed to say he was hearing me on 501.3 and was QSX 505.105. Despite the other strong signals from the beacons he was a nice strong 599. We exchanged reports/name/QTH/Locator. It is intersting to note that despite the QTH of Sweden Gus is only 814km from me - closer than many of the G stations I work! John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8cd474e91183d1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:15:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd474e91183d1; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxgPf-0001To-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxgPf-0001Tf-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxgPa-00081w-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:21 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c83270$9985ae20$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:14:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2007 10:14:21.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BBE3900:01C83270] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.199,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C83278.FB1AC8C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj time:o2:30z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C83278.FB1AC8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > There has been very little response from anyone else about class > E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of > amplifier, or do not use them. Er....have I missed something...? I seem to remember several people responded when you asked the same question on Nov 4th. There were plenty of answers to your query about efficiency etc. with a few measured values from real amplifiers and some discussion of the theory and practice of switching PAs. I understood from the level of response that several people (myself included) were using Class-E amps. Perhaps this time round they have decided not to repeat their answers. I think that most people, despite your snide implication, have in fact "heard about this type of amplifier" and possibly know enough about them not to need to go over the same ground every few weeks for your entertainment. Since you've furnished us with some scant information about your own Class-E experiments perhaps you'd like to enlighten us to the actual performance figures, the hard facts that that you've tried to solicit from others? DC supply volts/current? Output power? Efficiency? Harmonic and spurious emissions? Temeprature rise of the heatsink after 10 hours key down at full power? Enquiring minds would like to know.... John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b80472fb267170; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:16:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD062-b80472fb267170; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:16:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpC6m-0003EK-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpC6l-0003EB-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:55 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpC6i-0005ED-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B22381C00084 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:15:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.31]) by mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 71EBD1C00081 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:15:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071106001546466.71EBD1C00081@mwinf3404.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:15:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.084 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc=20 feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's ,=20 past P =3D I*V ? Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing=20 'spurious side bands' ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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(we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp106.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 13:30:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Cz4f2.QVM1lqctY6xk_uIFRpMaoN2YGmH7uIYCB34.i3zcqy.5bjOHC6KnGVwyyoZdnkPFI7mw-- Message-ID: <473D9B68.70008@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:30:16 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, There have been storms over here so some guys have been off the air for safety reason's. 73's Mike WE0h WD2XSH/16 mal wrote: > Hi all > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing hrd > from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. ... > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9d3472da4a21c2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:53:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d3472da4a21c2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:53:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod6S-0006i0-V7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iod6S-0006hr-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iod6P-0000PB-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:53:16 +0000 X-Trace: 630605995-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKYyLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQPg Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 10:52:45 +0000 Message-ID: <004b01c81ed0$d4e46d70$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> <000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:52:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good Morning LF, My thanks to Graham - G0NBD, Jim - M0BMU & Dave - G3WCB for the very interesting reports & comments regarding my narrow shift RTTY tests. It looks quite likely that this mode could be competition for normal CW QSO's at 20 wpm were RTTY 45 Bd gives the equivalent of 60 wpm without taking too much bandwidth on a small band allocation ( 23 Hz in this case). The findings have surprised me in such that I believed that the narrow shift could be a problem but as Jim stated with a little care tuning to the signal a very good percentage copy can be achieved. In Jims case the distance is 268 Km & Dave 274 Km. During the test I was also monitoring Johns (GM4SLV Shetland) grabber IP90GG at 739 Km & Daves (G3YXM Birmingham) grabber IO92BK at 143 Km. The traces there were such that at Birmingham the qsb periods between dips were short & deep but at Shetland the QSB period between dips was much longer & dips shallower maintaining a longer readable trace. The traces after dark at Shetland were so strong that my RTTY signal was producing a solid white line so in those terms we could expect the narrow RTTY would have given a 100% copy. Perhaps John could send me or make available to some captures of last night so I can include them on my web site at the next update, even better if there were a sound bite available. Thanks to all for watching & reporting. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your test, up > to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The upper trace is > G0MRF's > beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. As far > as > readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were printing > out > with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor on the > spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with similar signal > levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been comfortable audible CW > copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are quite variable - For a short > QSO of a couple of minutes, this wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would > require standing by waiting for the signal level to build up after a > fade - > also rather like CW. > > I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be tuned > quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and I found it > was > neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards G0MRF's > CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal carriers was only > 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth of the narrow RTTY looks > quite similar to PSK31. > > Thanks for the test, > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a944737207d180; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:32:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a944737207d180; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:32:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEn0-000296-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEn0-00028x-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrEmx-0003iP-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9DE3EA0DE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB8D3EA11D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4737206A.5010605@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:31:54 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111120071413.3753.47370DFA0004BF7500000EA922069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon XYW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020902010707090600000803" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020902010707090600000803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, No the problems, even if Joe goes back on the frequency which it was , it is perfectly visible (since 0.1 Hz lower! ) I said that to joke with=20 Joe ;-) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Joe, Jean-Pierre, > > Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for t= he past month or so. > Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI= 0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to th= e East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast.=20 > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 > =20 >> Hello Joe, >> Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place >> is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon >> on 777.05 with "XYW" like callsign . My grabber has the >> open arms to receive VO1NA ! >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> Joe Craig a =E9crit : >> =20 >>> Thank-you JP for watching. >>> >>> I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO! >>> >>> 73 >>> Joe >>> >>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Hello Joe , >>>> >>>> On 189,9498 kHz : >>>> Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anythi= ng! ) >>>> >>>> The captures of night are at : >>>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ >>>> >>>> >>>> 73 J-P f1afj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu --------------020902010707090600000803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren,

No the problems, even if Joe goes back on the frequency which it was ,
it is perfectly visible (since 0.1 Hz lower! ) I said that to joke with Joe ;-)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : 
Joe, Jean-Pierre,

    Ted WD2XYW (ham call KC3OL) near Kansas City has been on 137.777 for the past month or so.
Ted is using a loop antenna oriented North-South so he is strong on the KI0LE grabber (North of his QTH) and also to the South but not so strong to the East - he has only been copied occasionally on the East Coast. 

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
  
Hello Joe,
Me also I am impatient to receive on 777, but the place
is taken! (look on the grabber KI0LE) there is a beacon
on 777.05 with “XYW” like callsign . My grabber has the
open arms to receive VO1NA !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a écrit :
    
Thank-you JP for watching.

I'm looking forward to returning to 137.777 with QRO!

73
Joe

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:

  
      
Hello Joe ,

On 189,9498 kHz :
Nil for VO1NA ( The spurius reappeared, whereas I did not change anything! )

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/


73 J-P f1afj
















    
        

  
      
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--------------020902010707090600000803-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b6d474060621b8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:55:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d474060621b8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:55:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmTx-00036I-BK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmTw-000369-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmTs-0002bD-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E00393A25 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:38 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,988610f3302c5d25,f57d30f804484522,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:946:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2559:2562:2689:2828:3353:3636:3690:3743:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m71-mp2.cvx1-b.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.232.71]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c829fb$53914aa0$47e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:54:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-19747359eee19e; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:07:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB47-19747359eee19e; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:07:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqp6y-00049C-89 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqp6x-000493-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:51 +0000 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqp6v-0004Or-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:51 +0000 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so846721mue for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=L3qNTvngJzkxt2PzhQXYevN/BZzUYDYO9nGkvJTrqYE=; b=ZrTXmImQbczRYZ4XNNgVDZV68CPLUGNZSSOveq3xsJHe2wnZjGfzWG3iJ0d0HujOgjHZHw1y1bIBWBXs2MzkIPSUr8haFUUGQichGO0cGi8hSp2gJeBCAdDw4MhUlZ9+epN6fU7Bn7zdx3MpirtAWYFvYOUNf05sY7X72R+Dt98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Fq49ErukaI6w0l4+kWgrntqp1E7jSAdOgpQQO8bOj2nOEXhHFLF3Udpq44PI0Rm6EE56FAY0Lnv38hNYj/mqgDmW3wYEkS2QGfcl41g0xfHujQWur/TQoVE40Q4Mv/DvU9u4eOlX4BJ1rR5zmmKv4V4zqdgopeIcj1nq6COt+Zw= Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr2364289fgb.1194696408512; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.629 Subject: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 minutes. band noise level low at present. Chris G3XVL ------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 minutes.
band noise level low at present.

Chris

G3XVL
------=_Part_2390_8295157.1194696408501-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-949473c257c338; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:54:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF027-949473c257c338; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:54:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IscM3-0006xh-6l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IscM2-0006xY-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0188.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.188] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IscLy-00084A-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the time, and vy strong at times. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB41-183473aadf1af; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:12:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB27-183473aadf1af; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:12:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDMI-0002iz-WC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsDMI-0002iq-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsDME-0007uU-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EFE3EA0E9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FA73EA0E1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473AADE5.8020908@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:12:21 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , I copy : WD2XGJ ( vy strong 30dB over noise ! 00:00 > 01:30 ) , WD2XKO ( good ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC42-11a473efa61f4; 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Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B913C495B8B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1195309626.473efa3ab523a@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Heard G3KEV Calling CQ on 502.5kHz 14.20UTC in KP03SD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Heard G3KEV Calling CQ on 502.5kHz 14.20UTC in KP03SD. No QSX 3533... I called back on 3533 just in case but no reply. It is only "blue hour" yet here, must still be full daylight in UK. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa, KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b1c4731b0ea387; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:35:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC048-b1c4731b0ea387; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:34:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipk70-0004jM-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipk6z-0004jD-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:25 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.213]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipk6t-0005FA-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:34:25 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W43 ([207.46.11.206]) by bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:34:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.11] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 03:34:12 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 12:34:12.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[80874E70:01C8213A] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.732,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_" Subject: RE: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Warren, Jay, Dex - et al=20 =20 Looked for you at my dusk and into your dawn - nothing that I could say was=20= a signal. Pretty noisey here tonight but whats new! =20 Thanks for the signals chaps - asta manyana =20 Laurence 9V 1 LF > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000> From: w1tag@w1tag.com> To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite> > Jean-Pie= rre,> > Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for abo= ut > 30 minutes last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the= > last week.> > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0G= et it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL100626= 971033=3D --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John, Warren, Jay, Dex - et al
 
Looked for you at my dusk and into your dawn - nothing that I could say was=20= a signal. Pretty noisey here tonight but whats new!
 
Thanks for the signals chaps - asta manyana
 
Laurence 9V 1 LF

> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000
> From: w1tag@w1tag.com<= BR>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Pr= opagation Tonite
>
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Jay and I ar= e both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for about
> 30 minut= es last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the
> las= t week.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>= ;


Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96=20= together at last. Get it now! =3D --_af9df469-a87c-4dd9-9a8e-c6f8efe20772_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a11472a3ee92a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:03:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a11472a3ee92a5; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:02:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InhAh-0001Qq-W6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InhAh-0001Qh-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InhAe-0007gW-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59555700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2D7B7700008A for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101210139186.2D7B7700008A@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Good point's john . >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be > heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease<<< But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the skip distance , then even more power will not resolve the situation for semi local stations 'We' who live close to each other either get everything or nothing at all, those who live a little further a field ,no pun intended, will receive nearly all stations on a regular basis.. 'water water everywhere and not a drop to drink' >>>However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you want to work what you hear you must approach reciprocity of ERP, considerations of local noise floors aside.<<< The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, however, domestic generated noise levels appear to be distortional high, which is unfortunate, as the adage goes 'if you can here them, you can work them' may not actually stand up to investigation , path losses may not be reciprocal , and the noise floor at the distant station may well be significantly higher For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , 0 > 5 , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) reads a constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. The same setup 0.5 / 1 on 80 mtrs . It would take a significant increase to address this situation, which I fear will exist at any 'urban' location. >>>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so.<<< 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach something in the region of 100mW , For a lift of 'one' s-point @ 6dB that's up to 100 watts and as can be observed during the many cw qso's signal outages look to be in the ratio of approx 3:1 20 seconds good signal in every 60 , one s-point is not going to decrease that by very much ! dx reports have been quite consistent , with good copy , , flutter replacing the deep qsb observed at 'close' range. May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense of the word .. G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b8b472a572d32b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:46:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b472a572d32b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:46:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IninO-00025l-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IninN-00025c-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:49 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IninI-0005iQ-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:45:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 68735 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 22:42:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=o9YcjYBWdD5qI7bDyncQrnkAFdGvW8ZYuCKID9u4a7BJxWtBvxFGys43oqw5tyBDGEXCwudLorsAd3DRg8Qs3lDSl928KLlrdHBMIn9P5zakQ+cYLXPVBmPq9/cD/zLidRMjVQSJyBM10ZekuTSMbaCGSwudTcvXvVVm5LFFboA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.21.150 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 22:42:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nx0BD1IVM1kbqQwTNuPbugL.jn.l3RjXW29Kidu7xKdVUZekk79J.4kSLv0O1VZyuUVnp_7gMg-- Message-ID: <007201c81cd8$882ca500$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2><47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com><20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local><000d01c81c8e$85911230$0d00000a@AGB> <20071101143241.7af5f29e@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003c01c81cca$6c685ed0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:42:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Graham, ah but yes it will!!. The skip you talk about is due to the ground wave fading below the noise qrm at ranges before the skywave starts to come in at good strength. This is well known in the Lowfer (160 to 180kHz 1 Watt DC) fraternity in the States. the higher power Part 5 stations dont get this problem. On the commercial station power levels the ground wave equals the skywave strength at somewhere around 700 km (CCIR reccs), and if you plug the figures into to the late Reg Edwards GRNDWAV4 program you will see how the ground wave fades with decreasing power level. Those of us that live in domestic areas have to put up with a higher level of blanketing noise than John, which make the situation far worse. A little bit more power could enable us to achieve better groundwave ranges in daytime than are possible on top-band. Then add to that the possibility of daytime skywave at longer distances and it could well help. There will always be a rapid fading at shortish distances (100 to300km) but more power would give some fade margin so the signals didnt go right out. On the data, a "locked" signal should be somewhere around at least 6dB better under fading but it has to flywheel its parameters through the fade, not suddenly start hunting for them again when the signal disappears. Much data software is not written for these LF type conditions, Amtor ARQ would be good with some error correction and longer bursts than 3 chars.... possibly adaptive to match the fading conditions. The origin SITOR was designed for HF conditions which have different problems. Selective fading is not really an issue at LF. I was involved (at work) in a kite fly about a Marine Radio data protocol that would have used an (A)X25 type of protocol with narrow bandwidth and a packet handshake that would have been very effective. The ultimate is GPS locked and that is very effective. If you want to see the the effectiveness of a locked system look at WOLF. This is not designed for "conditions adaptive" operation though, but I have copies signals way below the level QRSS can be seen on 136kHz. Even the "QSO mode" Wolf B put in does not make it friendy for qso work. A good system should go quickly when conditions are good and slow down, integrating the repeats, in bad spells, until the packet checksums agree. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations > Good point's john . > > > > > > >>>My point was that Dave has said more than once that he struggles to be > > heard, despite receiving other more distant stations with seeming ease<<< > > > > But that's the point, this band demonstrates the concept of 'skip > distance' quite elegantly, second only to 6 mtrs, The transmission losses > at this frequency seen to be quite low, but if your out of the skip distance > , then even more power will not resolve the situation for semi local > stations > > > > 'We' who live close to each other either get everything or nothing at all, > those who live a little further a field ,no pun intended, will receive > nearly all stations on a regular basis.. > > > > 'water water everywhere and not a drop to drink' > > > > > > >>>However...on 500kHz the receiving stations are where they are! If you > want to work what you hear you must approach reciprocity of ERP, > considerations of local noise floors aside.<<< > > > > > > The transmission losses at this frequency seen to be quite low, however, > domestic generated noise levels appear to be distortional high, which is > unfortunate, as the adage goes 'if you can here them, you can work them' > may not actually stand up to investigation , path losses may not be > reciprocal , and the noise floor at the distant station may well be > significantly higher > > > > For example, the s-meter on my R5003 , is calibrated in sinpo units , 0 > 5 > , connected to my atu the receiver when in 'usb' (2.4 khz) reads a > constant '3' on the meter uniform background noise. The same setup 0.5 / 1 > on 80 mtrs . It would take a significant increase to address this situation, > which I fear will exist at any 'urban' location. > > > > >>>>We shouldn't be afraid of the engineering needed to generate highish > powers, nor feel that it's against the spirit of QRP to do so.<<< > > > > > > 25 watts looks to be a reasonable feed to a small system to reach > something in the region of 100mW , For a lift of 'one' s-point @ 6dB that's > up to 100 watts and as can be observed during the many cw qso's signal > outages look to be in the ratio of approx 3:1 20 seconds good signal in > every 60 , one s-point is not going to decrease that by very much ! dx > reports have been quite consistent , with good copy , , flutter replacing > the deep qsb observed at 'close' range. > > > > May be we should regard this as a 'Digital band' in the true sense of the > word .. > > > > G .. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a184735704dcd; 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Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:47:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4735703E.2040404@online.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:47:58 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-92f474336902e8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:34:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD107-92f474336902e8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:33:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuYq9-0002P5-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:32:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuYq9-0002Ow-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:32:57 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuYq4-0001eL-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the red variety for dipping the Weller bit in... http://www.wireless.org.uk/gallery/gallerlf.htm 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of G4gvw@aol.com Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Looks good John! What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave G3YXM also seems to favour the re= d=20 variety for dipping the Weller bit in... 
 
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 G4gvw@aol.com
Sent: 20 November 2007 16:53
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and=20 website

Looks good John!
 
What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the solde= ring=20 bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is= =20 this a continuing work in progress?
 
 
 
 
73 de=20= Pat G4GVW es=20 gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe,=20 UK
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C82BA9.A76C2910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a94472f756a3d4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:56:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA104-a94472f756a3d4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:56:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip83U-0006an-Ri for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip83U-0006ae-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip83R-00049u-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:16 +0000 X-Trace: 642223994-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJYEL0dYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 19:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: <01a801c81fe5$de6f7f40$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:55:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.200 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi john, LF, Only seeing a weak trace on SpecLab, no chance of hearing. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > Cheers, > > John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b644735ea492c2; 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U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.277,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ua9cs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010801000201090203020404" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010801000201090203020404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF! Last night copy of UA9CS (137778.85) and UA4WPF Dmitry RA3YO --------------010801000201090203020404 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------070508020306060402040902" --------------070508020306060402040902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF!

Last night  copy of  UA9CS (137778.85) and UA4WPF



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smtpauth14.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.39]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2zk-0006e3-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:32:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 13404 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 14:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpauth14.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.39) with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2007 14:31:04 -0000 Message-ID: <472F2943.5020303@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:31:31 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Thanks for the XES report. The signal on 137.7774 is WD2XKO (W4DEX op). John Andrews, W1TAG henny van elst wrote: > *who ?* From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB14-18b473750e2103; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB35-18b473750e2103; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:58:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrI0O-0002RJ-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrI0O-0002RA-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrI0L-0005F2-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:00 +0000 X-Trace: 627415122-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIbfNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 18:57:51 +0000 Message-ID: <039801c82494$c2bc9e00$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:57:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, I am going to stop continuous test at about 1900utc & switch to RTTY, 45 bd, 23 Hz shift & call CQ on 503.600 KHz, I will be watching the band from 501.500 KHz to 504.000 KHz. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-8b9472e34b3197; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA073-8b9472e34b3197; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iomh7-0005D1-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iomh7-0005Cs-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iomh3-0001uL-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:45 +0000 X-Trace: 621897870-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAH/DLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 21:07:15 +0000 Message-ID: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:07:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Lubos, Look at John's GM4SLV grabber, I can see the dots on there. http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm 73 - Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: LF: [500] Dots again > Hallo ALL! > I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal > is on the band again. > Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two > frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. > Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-91a4735947c153; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:22:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4735947c153; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:22:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqoPW-00041c-A7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqoPV-00041T-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqoPS-000455-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:21:57 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81923EA10D for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BB93EA0BD for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47359451.4070305@online.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:53 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, The =93Grabber=94 functioned well this night, there was a problem on the back sight of the captures. I did the =93housework=94 in the files of the grabber, all is correct now! I think that will have to be best the next night. You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of the captures of the night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ Are available the winter 2006/2007 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF098-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESW-0003eC-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESU-0003e3-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqESP-0003ln-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 15276 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 20:10:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iICOSlf3WkekmMOTcvAsGgsw2IthRJ3WmpLwlDDvOZhjv46uF21IwMe4kqB8smuTwLSer6jOMMkHT7UaWBkW/pFyBl9AYwbnVY308419s1UwPn9QZ3+FkiFF+4u89dJk2uLqDUCtfy4ch0zmUO+iU0M9NBhE/T8U2B8xaI8HM04= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.66.121 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 20:10:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LwRfX2oVM1nz5nfebLJ3FabE2KHdjS1QbF1HSm19h.rU.2T1e0B3qzaTQI81im6czk_1EZYzygM5xyCfrtx7Hpb5n0T7xiwQ3.ekgq6oYt4.4GKg Message-ID: <009c01c82243$62914560$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:10:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.366 Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Andy I never remember hearing anyone detecting a resonance that high. the first is about 7.8Hz (from memory) and there are "harmonics" at approx 8Hz intervals....only they are not exact multiples, Only in the very quietest locations can you detect peaks above 30Hz. There is unfortunaely a lot of what Renato calls Pseudo-science attracted to phenomena like this. If we manage to get his book published in English it is a good read. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the trace. Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from a Russian transmitter. Andy G4JNT On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > (the latter with radio direction finding). > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > the E-field spectrogram. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC22-1194742abec2c8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:42:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC41-1194742abec2c8; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:42:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPc2-0000Wl-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuPc1-0000WV-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:45 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuPbu-0007mR-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951DB3EA12C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559953EA100 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4742ABD1.4090409@online.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:41:37 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-113472ef1fd3ca; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:35:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC35-113472ef1fd3ca; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:35:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IozId-0004ne-GS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IozIc-0004nV-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IozIa-00046x-9D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:35:18 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB71DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:33:22 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, Looking through Chris G3XIZ's "operators" list I see no mention of G3BIK. I have seen QRSS-3 from G3BIK on 502kHz on a few occasions - including this weekend sometime. I have no email address for him and have never read of anyone else hearing/seeing/working him. I will try to find an archived screengrab showing his QRSS. Regards, John GM4SLV Clousta, Shetland IP90gg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8b5474055a8d4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA067-8b5474055a8d4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:09:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlm2-0002dT-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itlm1-0002dJ-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:26 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itlly-00025Q-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:25 +0000 X-Trace: 630287018-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKbjP0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <00d201c829f4$fb81b580$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> <3aaadcb80711180655y3b8880b8o3f288bb14ad75ed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:09:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-1, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Chris, LF, Thank you for the report, keep watching. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Gary, > I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so > far. Your about S3. > Chris, G3XVL > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> shift >> over greater distances. >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA091-a5b474a870f327; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:43:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b474a870f327; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:42:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwZX9-00012s-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwZX9-00012j-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwZX5-0001vF-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:39 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071126084132.UJRC26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:32 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071126084118.GFBO29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:18 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> In-reply-to: <27041196043948@webmail15.yandex.ru> References: 1650000000260747633 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? I was transmitting QRSS60 from 1900 to 2230. I will do the same=20 tonight. Thanks for listening. 73 de Mike =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Hi Mike! > Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. > What's time your was in the air? >=20 >=20 > 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): >=20 > > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the > > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out > > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver > > and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system > > and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am > > happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > > Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB >=20 > =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C9 – =ED=CE=CF=C7=CF =C6=CF=D4=CF= =CB =CE=C5 =C2=D9=D7=C1=C5=D4 http://fotki.yandex.ru/ >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC44-10847341a7a263; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC24-10847341a7a263; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:29:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPED-0006Mq-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPEC-0006Mh-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPE9-0003g4-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:28:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9053EA0F1 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6B3EA0D2 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47341A1C.8080506@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:28:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236 Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b58474f366b266; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:00:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b58474f366b266; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:00:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxrQM-0003Cd-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxrQL-0003CU-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxrQH-0001xK-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jf2C1Y00B0Fqzac050de00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jlzi1Y0052Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:59:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=67-8etzwxtoA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=fCTMGAnQE9W6wEbKLysA:9 a=f2sq1SrknXjQfLZLPoeQ-MZPh6AA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 a=vAT464E3v9QcW7ZqU9YA:9 a=KL8iS4qXOaaJgpLh0TcA:7 a=W8aHrJbRqcHAUR5ae30UlJ9tWNcA:4 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <9A095DEC108B48CF9D2396355D488EB2@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:59:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.274,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, I believe its a 3CX3000. I forwarded your comment to Bob for clarifca= tion. 73 Warren K2ORS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: LF: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum It looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowin= g away behind that slot? 73, dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org]On Behalf Of K2ORS Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D446&posted=3D1#post= 446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. STRAP!! ------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
 
      I believe it= s a=20 3CX3000.  I forwarded your comment to Bob for clarifcation.
73 Warren K2ORS
 
----- Original Message -----
Dave G3WCB
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4= :28=20 PM
Subject: LF: [500] : WE2XGR/6 Pictu= res on=20 the Lowfer Forum

It=20 looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing a= way=20 behind that slot?
 
73,=20 dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 K2ORS
Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:=20 LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum

------=_NextPart_000_0568_01C832A9.3BECDDE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-951473af9a4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-951473af9a4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIOB-0003oJ-5O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsIOA-0003oA-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:42 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsIO7-0002Ga-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:34:42 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Nov 2007 13:34:33 -0000 Received: from p54864CD4.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.103.48]) [84.134.76.212] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 14:34:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18kHw5FHJskm58puwzaxJNc5/mBbWAKv8bC5hyDZe kQ0W9zArbsfKAQ Message-ID: <473AF963.6060802@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:34:27 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> In-Reply-To: <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : - X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Markus and LF, > since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png > Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else noticed this problem? I noted the same QRM here. There are reports on another Maillist of a DRM transmission from the DLF during the evening on 153kHz. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF082-93f474cd28027a; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:29:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f474cd28027a; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:29:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxCeK-0006Ps-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxCeJ-0006Pj-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:39 +0000 Received: from smtp103.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxCeJ-0001xL-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:27:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 88044 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2007 02:27:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YlKEEZVE4DrNd/SN+7LWcZEpMpe0OyZksXujqfAFX/ZgLizyL7fCjwni0qpuvgdJFzLcBORnAPaXaGpCHQOy7Bjf5kwQ8QcTwnOD6b+NZ2Mdy8CW/Pv83KfRUjtEhIT5dsF5/wPriR9kLycM/+AF82syZBC0eAS8nGzxgNgObVA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp103.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 02:27:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cSqs4jIVM1nYukkbTOk6uhyyUSiA0qdoj1sAJyHDCy7sR8oQyPuvu8xUb0CW9V3_YrNT1MKNFg-- Message-ID: <474CD212.5000104@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:27:30 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000901c8310b$a63a0280$3fe8fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Many storms over on this side of the pond. Some stations are off while the storms blow through or on for very short times. Mike /16 hamilton mal wrote: > All > Since the unusually good condx a couple of weeks ago the band has reverted > back to normal. I have not heard Uncle Sams boys. since then and I dont > suppose they have heard me. When condx on 500 are normal it is hard to make > any impression with a QRP station. When propagation is exceptionally good > then the proberbial wet string and a handful of microwatts will achieve > miracles. > EU reports are all well down at present, S1 seems good along with the QSB > disappearing tricks. !! > 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a05474052821a8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:56:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a05474052821a8; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:56:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlYy-0002Lv-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItlYx-0002Lm-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:55 +0000 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlYv-0001v4-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:55 +0000 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so1592372mue for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yjqOYPBTHkHdg+sQNPOhKsgO9DUMKGW0yPmEel+Nc2c=; b=R8Sk+DrsAK44P5j+abNa7TbfVXnh8aUg93k7vPm8ChgyYMKe4mBVbjUaPA1X0OTbnEaMuKZdASCLyFNeUBnmktL5kLbNyt+Kf5nxDydehaGSsvdS/U0Ui79LBGPVW9nkPE1HBfzkhpDE04M6Um+Nv38JBPudcLFaunKjf8ge/T4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ftmBnOczBigbHbZwpoEuZWLYzu1ZpAdx6uDNtTpUQBaUpjvc6Z3A4fISwgTwXtvHFCdayjK5eO3d1sqjvetsdhjL/8e0da0340bmgIrYST0I5aqVidHs2yik3tG78T5dlHWwbP7xKXOOsix5sKnR9B6pJGGz/5nR0S2h06QNEmw= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr2037976fga.1195397752465; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.3.3 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:55:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711180655y3b8880b8o3f288bb14ad75ed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:55:52 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gary, I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so far. Your about S3. Chris, G3XVL On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > > Hi All, > > Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. > > It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow > shift > over greater distances. > > I will appreciate any reports. > > The software I am using is MMTTY. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ------=_Part_1531_3614700.1195397752454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gary,
 I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so far. Your about S3.
Chris, G3XVL

On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT < g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,

Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift.

It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow shift
over greater distances.

I will appreciate any reports.

The software I am using is MMTTY.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Like u say packet radio is back, why did it go away if it was so good G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching > class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this reflector, > remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that > packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic > radio , > > > > We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , > there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may be ? > just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the > CIO ... old habits die hard ... > > > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-120472f45d7389; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:03:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC48-120472f45d7389; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:33:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4sy-0002n6-Kz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip4sy-0002mx-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from 10.uvtc.net ([62.249.6.10] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip4st-00035s-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from gusham2mq8wmls ([87.227.51.55]) by uvtcmail.se with MailEnable ESMTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:32:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c81fc9$94117a00$0964a8c0@gusham2mq8wmls> From: "Gus" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:33:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Pse, put me on the list Jim. Tnx Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a4c4747e7c335f; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:58:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA014-a4c4747e7c335f; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:58:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqpK-00056n-3J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvqpJ-00056e-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:25 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.116]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvqpG-0001HB-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:57:25 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:54 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c82e77$eeb27d80$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:56:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2007 08:56:54.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5D71A80:01C82E77] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2411.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40" ------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice capture xgj 13:00z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C82E80.505B6E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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pndkGDiOqMb1G4YbeYkodDPO4EKK5YOorVwrajcaAljgXh0/5//Z ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C82E80.505B6E40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC12-1ba4746ad432b; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC22-1ba4746ad432b; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:36:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVox-0003eu-7I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVos-0003el-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:36 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvVom-0002i7-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:31:31 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992013EA0C7 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543543EA113 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:31:26 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-fe473b8b7f2fc; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:58:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com 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Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254502987 References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:56:52 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: 501.1 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi All! 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight: http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it? Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3. -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a62473aee7248; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:48:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA042-a62473aee7248; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:47:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsHe5-0003fr-IP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsHe4-0003fi-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:04 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsHe1-000254-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:47:04 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:52 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <00da01c826bc$5c813d60$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2007 12:46:53.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EAABED0:01C826BC] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.208,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xsh1411.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C826C4.BE3355E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0" ------=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture wd2xsh time:12:40z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_001_00D7_01C826C4.BE3355E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! My QSL will be direct to you. GN and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C82016.CDA26340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo OM Finba= r!

Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your s= ignal on 501.250kHz was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna – see on snapshots.

I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in=20= the Czech Republic! My QSL will be direct to you.

 

GN and 73

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

 

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CiiigAooooAKKKKACiiigAooooAKKKKACnxMyyAqu5uwplPcBXIGcfWmu4COWLMWHzE85ptF FIAooooAKKKKACiiigAooooAKKKKAP/Z ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C82016.CDA26340-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-956474d8a4528f; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:33:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF044-956474d8a4528f; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:33:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxOuC-0007aG-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxOuC-0007a7-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:52 +0000 Received: from smtp115.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.106.146]) by 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(we0h@75.168.164.227 with plain) by smtp115.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 15:32:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pyXINGwVM1mQMqkNDcQtVWnRkR_npsj2XmnPreTqQRaxrA34oAW6sP0EI90uYOZxS7EVwhTianw9N1KHY1kAyLYdtNNfn.Bc2aNJo9Hqase.h7EBwvw- Message-ID: <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:32:42 -0600 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: New Forum for LF & MF people... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php New forum for anything you want to say about LF &/or MF operating, equipment, whatever is on your mind. Put it in threads so no more digging through a gazillion email's reflected...Missed something or want to look something up next year? Sure, forums don't send info once, it is stored on a server in threads. Very handy. Try it out. Works excellent. Chat box, 100 megs of file space. Smokin fast. Talk about anything...did I say modern? hi hi... Ted's the man behind the forum. Awesome, a big thank you Ted!!! Mike WE0H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b64472e00842d2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:25:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD026-b64472e00842d2; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:25:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IojDu-00020V-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IojDt-00020L-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:21 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IojDo-0004FN-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:25:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 655FA7000088 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:25:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3E85A7000086 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:25:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104172511256.3E85A7000086@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002101c81f07$b3a4c010$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <005801c81e54$30a624a0$0e00000a@AGB> <004101c81ed0$89223390$56ebfc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:25:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Packet , ? its alive and well , this is the fastest 'soap box' , ive linked to for a long time ! G > Like u say packet radio is back, why did it go away if it was so good > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test > > >> The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of may things, like ditching >> class E systems, EER, data and thing's. The recent posts on this > reflector, >> remind me of the pioneering days of packet radio, Its nice to see that >> packet radio is still alive. Been too many posts about 'JR' (J) Jurassic >> radio , >> >> >> >> We all loved the 'antic's of the 'key' stone cops', Time to move on , >> there shooting in colour and they talk now , a little high pitched may >> be > ? >> just need to alter the BFO , ah gave the game away should of been the >> CIO ... old habits die hard ... >> >> >> >> G .. >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-acb472c1bf2a2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:58:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB061-acb472c1bf2a2; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:57:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCx2-0001lM-Oa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoCx2-0001lD-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoCwz-0004GF-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBAC3EA0C6 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4E43EA0BF for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:57:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472C1BE8.4050302@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:57:44 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XGJ ( good copy at the beginning of night ) On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-968472f5aef40; 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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:03:13 +0100 Message-ID: <472F5AE5.3080200@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:03:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim, .... me too . Thank you ;-) Wolf. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a97474359fa9d; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA107-a97474359fa9d; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCO-0002bi-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCO-0002bZ-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout0190.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.190] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IubCL-0005D2-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:04 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003CA811 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:55 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,0336fa5168ba9099,4f97860e33780f19,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:960:967:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2551:2553:2560:2563:2689:2828:2829:3027:3352:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:4860:5007:6117:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m43-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.43]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000301c82bc1$3f2263c0$2be4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <00da01c82b9d$5b50f030$11f2d090$@dynip.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:15:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Ted I expect it is a single fet, single ended ? How does it perform > Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Holdahl" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: LF: RE: CLASS E > Mal, > I am using a class E PA on 137.777 kHz. It is an IRFP260N MOSFET driven by > a MC34151. Efficiency is about 89% and the output power is 290 watts. > > Ted, WD2XYW > ___________________ > www.kc3ol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:56 AM > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: CLASS E > > Hi all > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > someone has a push pull design. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a51472cb218328; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:38:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a51472cb218328; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:38:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMwy-0005Vg-KM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMwy-0005VX-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:24 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMwu-0003xN-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:38:23 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 81A4B1C00085 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:38:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4746E1C00084 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:38:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103173814292.4746E1C00084@mwinf3401.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003101c81e40$59ff6870$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> <005901c81d9c$e3d240d0$0e00000a@AGB> <000901c81e39$63f30820$0e00000a@AGB> <00f701c81e3b$92adda30$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:38:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.093 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Ok Gary, Well , thats the beacon message , I think maxfram is 35 and its just under , I'd rather use the pk232 , but its not wired up for 'tx' , the software may make a better job of 'rx' though Are you closer to Birmingham , ? the signals not showing there ! G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > Hi Graham, LF, > > Printing OK here using MultiPSK decoder. > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > CQ test qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com > > > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: LF: Packet beacon 503 cent . 110 Baud (HF) > > >> 110 Baud, HF Packet Beacon , 23 chars 10 second prf, one 'frame' >> >> 503 Khz cent freq . >> >> Using Multipsk , tone freq 2Khz , Tx , usb , 501 K >> >> Reports , intrested , if it print's .. and if so , how many frames per >> qsb cycle ? >> >> G.. >> >> Nb , connect is enabled . >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b60474b2334d6; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:49:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b60474b2334d6; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:49:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjwv-00025H-CN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwjwv-000258-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwjwr-0001tO-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:57 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97167DA4D8 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:48:41 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071126194841.0fd10ea4@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <000001c83062$2ffbab90$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] GM4SLV_grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:26:04 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo John! > Your new grabber is doing very well, thanks! > =20 > 73 and GL on 500kHz! > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS Thanks Lubos, Your beacon is looking very good tonight, as usual! Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC43-1bf4731988e7b; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:51:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf4731988e7b; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:50:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpiUR-0003xl-MD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpiUR-0003xc-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpiUL-0005Vk-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071107105017m11004i7bve>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:50:17 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:15 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:50:15 +0000 Message-Id: <110720071050.20193.47319866000EAC7B00004EE122007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the nice report and captures! WD2XGJ is using a new antenna - two loops in parallel made of coaxial cable, the 1st loop RG-11 and the other RG-214. (The old antenna was the single RG-11 loop.) Dimensions are 1st loop (RG-11) 24m vertical x 44 m horizontal; 2nd loop RG-214 29m vertical x 46m horizontal. Transmitter Racal-Decca running 1.5kW dc input. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello Warren and all , > > Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! > whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! > Warren, have you the “decca” in service ? because it would be good to > compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay > what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was > high +10dB. > > the captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > > Hello the list... > > > > Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. > > Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: > > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-95e473f67a01d8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:14:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF054-95e473f67a01d8; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:13:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVuq-0006VD-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVup-0006V4-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:27 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVum-0003z5-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 31582 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Agd8a4OJjT+i8XArE8YYJjtzjLJxEDXEldpmz5dWqOGBI6UJGaldw50iHnr/DqM7TaFaTrfIdRqyXNOqD64NHApYiCHTfbXGzngbbpt5IzQIupoSFeNKCi4hznLIqxXwhBZyYXFmM02NeY5+pDEPcVPXZ0kAs9MFFOrOqBkIxZk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.2.233 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mXVq7h8VM1lzlhstnQQgAbZBeeaE5qTPz5jJ8tHGpHeqPCSWfMzAnyCq0X3t78jZuZt5q2k_Cg-- Message-ID: <006a01c82967$0f78bb80$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.362 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Thats what the one and a half stop bits are for !! and dating from the days of mechanical serial to parallel converters "clocked" by DC motors with centrifugal governors. Cheers Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. > > > > > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? > > I was intially set at 45.45Bd... > > Will try again at 45 > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ac547303aeb12e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:59:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac547303aeb12e; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:59:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLCK-0007BY-Au for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLCJ-0007BP-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:15 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpLCG-0007Kd-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:58:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EC34E5CC4 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-vG3afURf9h for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB434E5C03 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c8205b$840211a0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20071106081349.251d0bc0@lurcher.twatt.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.318,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hallo John! Yes, it will be fine to try QSO cross-band with you. But I didn=B4t see your signal last night. May be in the next time... I am looking forward to continue in these tests.=20 GL and 73 Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:14 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: [500]GI4DPE_OK2BVG On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:46:08 +0100 Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote: > Hallo OM Finbar! > Thanks for very nice crossband 600/80m QSO. Your signal on 501.250kHz > was excellent, I received you on miniwhip antenna - see on snapshots. > I think it was the first crossband 600/80m QSO in the Czech Republic! > My QSL will be direct to you. > =20 > GN and 73 > =20 > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 Congrtatulations Lubos and Finbar, I heard you Lubos call Finbar after we signed and Mike G3GMS also finished on 80m crossband. You were a good signal here on 80m too Lubos. I wonder if you were copying any of my transmissions and whether we could also have had a cross-band QSO? Well done both. Cheers, --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a5c474e2ca5334; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:06:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA034-a5c474e2ca5334; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:06:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxZiH-0000e1-9C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxZiG-0000ds-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:16 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxZiD-0006kk-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:05:16 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-218.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.218]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 9B2DC48F5B8 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-218.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.218]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id 0W0qg7WKNuYHwpox for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:00:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LFers, My farmer neighbour has kindly offered me the use of his fence posts to erect a "longwire" receiving antenna. I could make it well over a thousand feet in length and run out of $ for the wire before I ran out of fence posts! Would the close proximity of the fence itself, about eight inches below the antenna wire, have any negative effects? The fence is the conventional rectangular grid type, with six horizontal wires spaced about eight inches apart, and with vertical wires spaced about a foot apart. It's fastened to the wooden posts with staples and it appears to be galvanised steel. There is no intentional grounding of the fence, but in many places the lowest horizontal wire does touch the ground. Any comments or suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-d0473ff5ce4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB28-d0473ff5ce4; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:20:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfNe-00017q-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItfNe-00017h-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItfNb-0006uC-9m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:19:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCBF3EA0E8 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7D3EA0F1 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473FF5A2.7020402@online.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC32-108473ede881d9; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:29:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC24-108473ede881d9; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:28:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItMmT-0004g2-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItMmT-0004ft-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:13 +0000 Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItMmO-0001T0-PK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DoLD1Y0070QkzPw0A00H00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:04 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DoU31Y0041pKLLP0800000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:28:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ao37ZpKEzWI1z9xigvwA:9 a=y7A8re0uPss6ivq4D5QA:7 a=TfL_0GBjkf42McKlgHPe8HYEeCAA:4 a=6wtEEXghtLAA:10 Message-ID: <003601c82915$4afce980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20071117082728.3121ad55@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:27:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 kHz T/A enthusiasts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n WE2XGR/2 will begin operating tonight at 2200Z...listening for callsigns for the first half of each hour (2200-2230Z for example) and will transmit 'WE2XGR/2' during the second half of each hour (2230-0000Z for example). I'll check the 'DX window' during receive periods. Finbar has staked out 501.3 and Mal has 502.5 kHz and if you have a favorite frequency please let me know. XGR/2 will remain on 506.5 kHz. If it looks like a QSO might be possible send me an e mail and we can break away from the schedule. I don't check e mails once a QSO has begun. There might be some advantage to shorter time segments (10 or 15 minutes perhaps) but this is just a starting point. Comments would be appreciated. I'll remain on this schedule until 0200Z...later if anyone is still awake, interested and if propagation is favorable. Any and all reception reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b0847501efc10f; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:32:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b0847501efc10f; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy6tt-0004bk-JE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iy6ts-0004bb-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:28 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy6tB-0002rn-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:28 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1d41Y0070QuhwU0503P00; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:30:39 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K2Wa1Y00M2Uxt080300000; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:30:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=EUHz1yAux0kA8O7DDEoA:9 a=z4IPNNGr_KoO4WAlB9OpMYfNKLEA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ltg6t-HkzXS-HjMPEJ0A:9 a=-CnqPh6wnvKkWJ3ZQ50A:7 a=9YFtYfMwO8C4fNESjAB4uHdGzOcA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000c01c83350$2cc99db0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Willem and Jean-Pierre for the report and captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: LF: 137.780 Capture wd2xgj =20 In jo22mb 73s wim pa3ego ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Willem and Jean-Pierre for the re= port and=20 captures!
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C83333.A8E50870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-1da472f87752e3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:13:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC54-1da472f87752e3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:13:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9G0-00005b-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip9Fz-00005S-J1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:15 +0000 Received: from mx2.thehistorychannel.com.au ([203.18.237.62] helo=MX2.foxtel.com.au) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip9Fw-0002T6-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:15 +0000 Received: from SYDEXH01.ent.foxtel.com.au (sydexh01.ent.foxtel.com.au) by MX2.foxtel.com.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:20 +1100 Received: from SYDEXB04.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.101) by SYDEXH01.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.102) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.700.0; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:49 +1100 Received: from SYDEXM02.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.107) by SYDEXB04.ent.foxtel.com.au (10.12.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.700.0; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:48 +1100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:12:47 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF/MF EER transverter Thread-Index: Acgft27HdtJY+yQGTcKUP87NuZluRAAORjHA References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "Nick Mclean (SYD)" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: LF/MF EER transverter X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Me too, 73,s=20 Nic McLean VK2KXN / VK5ZAT Tel: 02 99410619 Fax: 02 98139009=20 Mobile: 0417 822 728 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 1:16 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you are not the intende= d recipient, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the i= nformation in any way, and notify the sender immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and m= ay not be the views of FOXTEL, unless specifically stated. No warranty is ma= de that the e-mail or attachment (s) are free from computer viruses or other= defects. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-acc47361d1327b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc47361d1327b; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxVw-0005wV-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxVv-0005wM-Ow for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:11 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxVr-0001NV-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:05:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1601EF88CC for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id dKsozNjL8Dwd for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi95.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.100]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 923FC1EF8976 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002301c823dd$41f3cb20$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:04:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gary ...an excellent use of limited backyard space. It should encourage many others to roll up their sleeves and get on the air. Your coils are true works of art. Well done! 73 Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b1147402c1614b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:12:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b1147402c1614b; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:12:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itizh-0001m9-Ac for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itizg-0001m0-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:20 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itizd-0000Gd-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:20 +0000 X-Trace: 627587433-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAO65P0dYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c829dc$19d45970$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-0, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow shift over greater distances. I will appreciate any reports. The software I am using is MMTTY. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9134738527c3d; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:18:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134738527c3d; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:17:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrZ9L-00059Z-GY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrZ9K-00059Q-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:22 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrZ9H-0004QK-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:16:22 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:13 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:16:13 +0100 Message-ID: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:15:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 13:16:13.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[32F4B380:01C8252E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wd2xsh17 1211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C82536.87C649C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0" ------=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture wd2xsh/17 time 3:00z antenne dx-10 rec:rohde &schwarz henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_00AF_01C82536.87C649C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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antenne dx-10
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(Postfix) with ESMTP id B240B1EF8BC6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id owqYhy+Mao20 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi80.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.85]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 0082F1EF8B73 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000501c82495$79599460$5511f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473630BB.9090807@hifidelity.com> <001101c823fc$d8991160$7411f4cc@p1i5f0> <473661D4.2030100@hifidelity.com> <001801c8240d$317b5440$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> <4737386D.8010901@hifidelity.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.407 Subject: Re: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks a million Steve! You have been a great help. Hopefully I can return the favor someday. 73 / Steve Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB33-f0472c9b531b; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:01:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB510-f0472c9b531b; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:01:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLQZ-00046t-Th for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoLQZ-00046k-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoLQW-0004L7-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:00:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 464291C00081 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.9]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 15B561C00082 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103160022890.15B561C00082@mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001101c81e32$adc7ce10$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:00:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > What prog to de-code ? , no 23 hz shift option on multipsk for ascii ... G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > Hi All, > > By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz > shift. > > Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. > > Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. > > Reports welcome. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.147]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1d1472b645f1d5; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:54:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC45-1d1472b645f1d5; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:54:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0iY-0006ER-Hn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io0iY-0006EI-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:02 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io0iT-0006Xa-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 86919 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 17:46:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=2p7KfVPCvxc9vZGMIpuWSK/ffhc8rMBl1k1VSD0ySp+zMVHqo57i8UHYBRX28aAsyGb8/09B4Q1nzdUexUbD4VU7ZwMf7fgEtIlmPWp5Fu2PwrKoy6kRjKZH9CvyIQ1lhnm3r+Il6EVYmIoVFv3WCu/1nj5Q0BqJZTQXY/7Coew= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.155.2 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 17:46:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MT_LB6EVM1kxCIp4NIazwM6qC_ZbvSHRtsSnJgNzQgdvd6T6UInm4RjXGZrX6SFauEO2dkIIog-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:47:18 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.469 Subject: RE: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Sri, make that GI3PDN.... 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 02 November 2007 17:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [500] LF: 501.5 .. who ? [GI4PDN] GI4PDN is now in 5 wpm CW beacon mode on 501.555 kHz at the moment. Peaking 549 is QSB 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Paul-Henrik Sent: 02 November 2007 17:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB14-6d14731796f9c; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:38:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB63-6d14731796f9c; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgQB-00031o-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgQA-00031f-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:59 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.112]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgQ6-0004ER-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:58 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.105]) by hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:48 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01c82119$6a2d45b0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:37:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:37:48.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A4217F0:01C82119] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.233,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 07xns.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C82121.CBDACA50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50" ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xns?=20 henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0047_01C82121.CBDACA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.197 Subject: LF: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi graham, LF, I just posted reply when your mail came thro' Thanks. I presume that is a good sign that the RA1778 is quieter meaning Rx noise level ?? better SNR. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi John, > > Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need > select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is > dead center on 503.6 > > G .... > > Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , > looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: "rsgb" > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > > >> Hello LF, >> I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal >> PSK31 >> >> What mode is it? >> >> -- >> John GM4SLV >> IP90gg >> Clousta, Shetland >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: >> 11/16/2007 22:58 >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a524741482c17b; 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Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:23:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4741480D.3020601@online.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:23:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren, Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME051-9c04743112320b; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:54:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c04743112320b; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWLp-0001xg-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuWLo-0001xX-NF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:28 +0000 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuWLl-0000lE-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:28 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d37.1af5110f (39330) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:42 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Grabber and website Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195577562" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195577562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks good John! What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the soldering bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is this a continuing work in progress? 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK -------------------------------1195577562 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks good John!
 
What I am intrigued by is the ingenious method of tempering the solderi= ng=20 bit! Could you please enlighten us as to which grape variety is best or is t= his=20 a continuing work in progress?
 
 
 
 
73 de Pat=20 G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK
<= /HTML> -------------------------------1195577562-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9e047364f4a1b0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:39:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME104-9e047364f4a1b0; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir0qp-0006d8-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir0qo-0006cz-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:58 +0000 Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca ([24.222.0.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir0ql-0000rm-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:58 +0000 Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.15]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JRB004GFGGKNF50@mta02.eastlink.ca> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:38:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-138-38-70.eastlink.ca (HELO MAIN) ([24.138.38.70]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:38:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:42 +0000 From: Vernon Matheson In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALbdNUcYiiZG/2dsb2JhbACCcw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,400,1188788400"; d="scan'208,217";a="187828235" X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: VE1VDM <> GI4DPE Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi all, Just had a crossband contact with GI4DPE and exchanged signal reports. My TX was 3.501.000 and antenna was a full Windom @ 45 feet My RX was 501.316 and my antenna was a 2000' unterminated wire facing E/W Sent - 559 Received - 539 Best regards, Vernon --Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi all,
 
Just had a crossband contact with GI4DPE and exchanged signal reports.
 
My TX was 3.501.000 and antenna was a full Windom @ 45 feet
 
My RX was 501.316 and my antenna was a 2000' unterminated wire facing E/W
 
Sent - 559
 
Received - 539
 
Best regards,
 
Vernon
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_HRrTrF9RmGOv1GfoV0kbfg)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB13-1904740afe127; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:34:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB310-1904740afe127; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:34:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Itrlz-0004Yo-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Itrlz-0004Yf-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Itrlw-0007rf-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:47 +0000 X-Trace: 636638661-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJc+QEdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 21:33:15 +0000 Message-ID: <018b01c82a2a$a18218f0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:33:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071118-2, 18/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 503.600 KHz RTTY test. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi LF, No replies to CQ calls, I am now resuming the test sequence again as before. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-c8472e16dd1ab; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:00:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB110-c8472e16dd1ab; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:00:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ioki1-0003Gh-W6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ioki1-0003GY-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokhy-00059F-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:00:33 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5CA6E7000089 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:00:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.32.119]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2BE597000083 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:00:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071104190025179.2BE597000083@mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <003201c81f15$0184bdf0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <015101c81f10$392d3160$6d3e6a58@wgt01> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:00:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz GW3HXO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Mike Good copy by ear , wallasey , also , just have to listen slowly lol , have copyed your beacon at 1200 hrs in the past as well .. G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz GW3HXO > Hi Mike, LF, > > Your CW strong now here at Chorley, Lancs, IO83QP. > > See capture. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a6547497294393; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:03:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA045-a6547497294393; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:03:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwH7n-0008Ii-Pt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwH7n-0008IZ-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwH7k-0007Hu-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:15 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071125130218.JWVT26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:18 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071125130218.YFKS219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:02:18 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:01:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4749723E.7387.E98379@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.400 Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB093-aac47379cc61be; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:22:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac47379cc61be; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:22:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrN3N-0003vp-KV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrN3M-0003vg-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:24 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrN3K-0007TN-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:21:24 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d64.1543614e (39331) for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: 500 Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50,WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_rel_boundary" --part1_d64.1543614e.3468f676_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="d64.1543614e_alt_bound" --d64.1543614e_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/11/2007 23:51:34 GMT Standard Time, hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de writes: Dear all, last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight it worked. Well done Ha-Jo. >From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have seen on the band. The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the second night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 transmission is just visible for the first time. _Shetland grabber_ (http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg) 73 David --d64.1543614e_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 11/11/2007 23:51:34 GMT Standard Time,=20 hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de writes:
Dea= r=20 all,

last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight=20 it
worked.
 
Well done Ha-Jo.
 
From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have se= en=20 on the band.
 
The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the second= =20 night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 transmission is j= ust=20 visible for the first time.
 
 
 
73
 
David
 
 
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u5mr4938971pym.1194195448845; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:57:28 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In my 700 Watt direct-from mains transmitter http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/137tx.pdf efficiency came out somewhere between 80 to 90%. As Jim says, its difficult to measure accurately At one point, due to measurement errors, the calculated efficiency ended up at 105%. Andy G4JNT On 04/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > > > Hi all > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. > Has > > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is > hard > > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or > E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it > is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference > between DC input and RF output powers. > > In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which > have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used > air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule > here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is > probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q > tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate > and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, > it might be another story... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-cd473795731f6; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB25-cd473795731f6; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrMZv-0003ni-Fa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrMZv-0003nZ-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:59 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.83] helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrMZr-0007I5-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:58 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IrMZq-0004I3-02; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:54 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (ZB5QMuZGghkastSXAyCCEQMDdNxyglo8-M8bKptN97nR0l7fiatBvcIevjSz3kOQX7@[217.95.127.206]) by fwd34.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IrMZj-1jzotU0; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2007 23:50 GMT Message-ID: <1IrMZj-1jzotU0@fwd34.t-online.de> X-ID: ZB5QMuZGghkastSXAyCCEQMDdNxyglo8-M8bKptN97nR0l7fiatBvcIevjSz3kOQX7 X-TOI-MSGID: cc8bd95d-e5ca-4860-aad2-7c8fcec65710 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear all, last night I missed a chance for a crossband qso, but tonight it worked. GI4DPE appeared again on 501,4 kHz tonight, at 21.09 UTC I could give him 579, and my 30 watts on 3533 kHz were 539 in northern Ireland. Later I heard G3KEV on 502,6 kHz in QSO with DJ5AZ in Kiel, and around 21.41 UTC, I could give him 569 and received 599. Mal also listened on 3533 kcs. After this qso Mal was called several times by G3BFP on 3533; he was 599 here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, but the 80 m skip in G did not work; Mal could just give QSA1. Still later I heard GI4DPE on 501,4 kHz in qso with G3LDO. Peter's transmission could just be noticed, but was too weak for a copy. Let us see what will happen the following weeks . . . 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b0a472f0be928d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC026-b0a472f0be928d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:26:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip11q-0006k0-7C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip11p-0006jr-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:05 +0000 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip11n-0005M3-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:05 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so3117996pyi for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:26:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eFtu9EZYjOObtFaCtHYaI9ImGQ5o6aMy2E37FUMRmsw=; b=gQzl5jUpRO24MHH98tEwi+x1aNvRYSCj1eN8RJdOBVOO7E0SwqIK71/nkxB7AgngTddlJ0GC/WT6F9XCGkBud/AGaNQsrLs8UDWl5TJqcSfQQWt46LutWm1lqHvvKnKyH6KPOdhTTIjrxu7HJDyJPESLJuQdDYObxO1XM98g/qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CXBTJ5STOAdBVWTBYdsuux44SszzcCMluXBrPF9oEgkvPh9ZpubT9t7iA+F+n68B5d331sxv/Ea+vZZn7lJRVKPZ/BK0Joda/a7ooup5yHF2AAPYqy0iQAR6ckXSS9/o809LjwJL2sINqUW+jLatfaFB4f1EgCKfgmMfssc8oH8= Received: by 10.35.68.3 with SMTP id v3mr6066631pyk.1194265561849; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:26:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:26:01 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Its not difficult to measure RF voltage at this frequency. A scope calibration at DC will extrapolate accurately. Then you can measure I using a current transformer / resistor. Getting within a few percent shouldn't tax any abilities provided you can calibrate a scope at DC. The mistake I made the time I "saw" 105% efficiency was, I seem to recall, due to forgetting the 4/pi factor when filtering the fundamental component out of a square wave - all old history now. Efficiency in class D/E amplifiers falls when the match is not purely resistive, and the devices are forced to switch at other than the zero crossing point of the current waveform. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt On 05/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work out. How > are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) then > using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R be the norm > 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the Eff % > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b6c474f2da692; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c474f2da692; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxqqA-0002si-FE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixqq9-0002sZ-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:33 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixqq6-0001wt-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:22:33 +0000 X-Trace: 641773183-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAEe8TkdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 21:20:47 +0000 Message-ID: <00ca01c832cd$b5ab0e30$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:20:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071128-0, 28/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + David, Thanks for reply. Yes I am seeing you back in your usual slot now. Cheers, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz G0MRF > > Sorry Gary. > > John's grabber was frozen at 12.58 and I pulled the frequency down to try > and view the beacon on G3YXMs grabber in Birmingham. > > Then......long phone call, XYL tasks etc....ooppps. Back on 503.7 now > > David > > > In a message dated 29/11/2007 21:01:42 GMT Standard Time, > g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: > > Hi All, > > Can anyone confirm G0MRF beacon now on 503.300 KHz ? > > I am seeing what appears to be Dave's signal from about 1950utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b9d47440207153; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d47440207153; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-00048n-2N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOT-00048e-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumON-0004CN-W3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:17 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003E57DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:05 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,bc7359c590a3919f,3ff5c17a4531c42b,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2828:2916:3027:3352:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3873:4250:4648:5007:6117:6119:6120:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003101c82c25$6db43d80$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:34:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Marco. Tnx for the call on 3533 khz and the successful QSO. Sorry you did not work GI4DPE earlier. I got into the shack around 10 pm so missed the earlier activity. I always listen on 3533/7033 khz and my own freq, usually 502.5 khz. I am active daily so if you hear me pse call for a qso. There are quite a number of other UK stns active, not sure if they all work qsx but listen out for possibe xband qso's. Tnx agn de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scholz, Marco " To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: LF: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Hello, very happy here about my 1st X-Band QSO 3533/502 KHz this evening with Mal, G3KEV. At 9pm UTC i had a sked with Finbar,GI4DPE, but unfortunately at this time his signal was to weak. One hour later at 10:10pm i heard G3KEV very good on 502KHz and the QSO was quickly done, many many thanks. IO94sh-JN49ax, QRB 753Km My Rig: FT-857D, on 80m 85W on a FD-4, on 500KHz PA0RDT-Miniwhip antenna. Vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8cd473381853a1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:38:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd473381853a1; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:37:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqF2D-0003rr-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqF2D-0003ri-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqF28-0006Xr-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:35:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE463EA0F2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:35:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B80F3EA0BA for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:35:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47338104.9010105@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:35:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! 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632328264-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.19.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAI9GTUdYahPh/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-19-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.19.225]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 18:48:16 +0000 Message-ID: <011101c831ef$3ccbe7c0$e1136a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071127225408.08c018a6@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:48:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071127-0, 27/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 503.6 dots... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, LF, Just to let you know the odd ball transmission was indeed me as Mike G3GMS identified. I was testing my transmitter switching, the sequence was 12wpm CW ID followed by the dots, actually 1 second dashes, perhaps I should have included my call sign using QRS as well for the more distant listeners/watchers. Thanks for the reports. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:54 PM Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... > Hello LF, > > I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they > dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's > been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've > listenened by ear. > > Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9be4731ecc4229; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:50:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME062-9be4731ecc4229; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:50:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipo6C-0005lf-E6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipo6B-0005lW-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:51 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([194.67.23.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipo67-0006OJ-S8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:51 +0000 Received: from [62.33.168.14] (port=53271 helo=mail.ru) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ipo61-0009tC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:49:41 +0300 Message-ID: <4731ECA5.6060304@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:41 +0000 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.061 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lf Possible I copy short trace from XKO at 5:26 (my SR 5:05) http://ra3yo.narod.ru/br00515.jpg Dmitry http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b6e47370bd86b; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:04:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e47370bd86b; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:04:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDPw-0001fp-VY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDPv-0001fW-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:03 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDPq-0003Ab-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:04:03 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.197.126]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111140345m1300bpumme>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:51 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter16.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:45 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: jpm.f1afj@online.fr (Jean-Pierre Merre), vvkooten@wanadoo.nl (Victor van Kooten), "henny van elst" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:45 +0000 Message-Id: <111120071403.20085.47370BC0000F3FFA00004E7522058864420B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj11-11.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Jean-Pierre, Victor, Thank you for the reports and captures of XGJ! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > nice capture xgj > time 21:00-02:45z > henny cpm > 73s > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b134731a3b61ed; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:38:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC037-b134731a3b61ed; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:38:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjEF-0004NX-VA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjEF-0004NO-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout1458.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.157.158] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpjEC-00062m-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.28) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E002A6CB1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82132$9ea00df0$1cd0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <1194380344.4730cc387e558@imp.netikka.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:37:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Paul We have a good sea path between us.OH1TN was always vy strong with me on 137 khz cw. Pse work xband 3533/7033 khz for a real time report. Tnx info de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: LF: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz LF Condx on 500kHz is just getting better every day. Here is a recording of G3KEV made just a while ago, note how the AGC is trigged almost blanking the bandnoise. The audioclip is far too short (due to filesize restrictions) to show how steady and QSB-free the conditions were at the time. 579, 599 ...? The S-meter is hitting S3 with S0.5 bandnoise. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b2c474406c0181; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:21:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c474406c0181; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:21:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumiE-0004W4-Cm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumiE-0004Vv-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:42 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumiB-0004P9-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:41 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C251DA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:17:23 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121101723.4470e722@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> <20071120225305.4f9303d9@lurcher.twatt.local> <003301c82c25$718801d0$16e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > You must have missed my article in the early days about my class E > and all the parameters, and especially monitoring the waveform V for > correct operation. I didn't miss it Mal... Nowhere have I seen your reported: DC Input Volts/Current RF Output Power Efficiency Others have replied to you with their own measured efficiency vs power so perhaps you can furnish us with the same. After all you've certainly made some exhaustive optimisations of the output tuning components to achieve the perfect class E drain waveforms. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d04736195b139; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:49:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB62-6d04736195b139; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:49:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxGP-0005pt-T5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxGP-0005pk-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxGM-0004ja-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205311EF8C60 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id DX4Q-85RpVCt for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi95.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.100]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EA721EF8C1F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000d01c823db$1cabf2e0$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <20071110203650.2648b5b4@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:48:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.430 Subject: LF: Any list members in Pennsylvania ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I'm looking for anyone within groundwave distance of Ambler, PA that could give a listen for one of the local ndb's to confirm whether or not it is on-the-air. Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB41-181472ee76f343; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:50:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB25-181472ee76f343; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:50:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoyaT-0004I7-6a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoyaS-0004Hy-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoyaQ-0001kM-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAD5DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:22 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105094722.7d6531be@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:36:59 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why > bother with a mode that noone else bothers about. > G3KEV As a CW only op I think I can answer Mal's point without being accused of partiality. The use of CW is always going to be seen as the primary mode on MF, due to the bandwidth limitiations and the ease of production and detection. However the great increase in available digital modes recently means there's great scope for the experimenter to investigate ways of improving the reliability and throughput of messages in narrow bandwidths and low S/N ratios. One of the reasons I see that we've got access to 500 is to see what can be done with modern DSP signal processing in view of the peculiarities of MF fading/propagation. The powers that be might see MF (and an amateur allocation here) as useful for emergency communication. The use of digital modes and DSP will be important for this and if we can show we're carrying out research into this then we won't look like anachronistic dinosaurs. On my part I'm only interested in using CW for QSOs - and am still amassing lots of interesting data from this mode - but am happy to support those who are trying different routes. This isn't a normal amateur allocation where we should be intertested solely in "working the DX". The cross-band QSOs etc. should be seen as "experimantal data". The normal amateur "DXCC chasing" mentality has no place here. See you on the key? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b32473b61ff30f; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC076-b32473b61ff30f; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPKL-0004tS-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPKL-0004tJ-Az for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from webmail10.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPKH-0006gE-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail10) by mail.yandex.ru id S4059803AbXKNU6b convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:31 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [83.237.224.7] ([83.237.224.7]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:29 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254396733 References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:58:30 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi agn John & ALL! May be. I find only one info about 504 kHz WC NDB beacon into: http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/index.php 504 WC UNID XUU UNID FIN 1 =20= 2007-11-08 the other WC ndb ib 332 kHz is near Vancoover and the other one in South Afr= ica is not on 505 kHz too. 14.11.07, 21:50, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 > ". Roman" wrote: > > Hello John! > > May be it was a G3WCB? > >=20 > > Find by a google: > > 21/22 Sep > > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm > >=20 > Hi Roman & LF > Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time > repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both > frequencies in perect sync! > It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier > on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in > anywhere I can find. > It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up > again. > Cheers, > John > --=20 > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =D0=AF=D0=BD=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81.=D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=87=D1=82=D0=B0 - =D0= =9F=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8C=D1=82=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D1= =82=D1=83 =D1=81 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0= =BE =D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B0: http://mai= l.ya.ru =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-e0472cb0183ad; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB44-e0472cb0183ad; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:30:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMob-0005PO-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoMob-0005PF-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoMoX-0003tS-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Nov 2007 17:29:35 -0000 Received: from p548557B6.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.87.182] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 18:29:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19etgEeKtteOhIR+B1+jYrZXuqnfAPHp+BwCz1nmf lSPz9jyReSLzKZ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:29:34 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655558932.20071103182934@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.019 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 2/3 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137 kHz: Copied UA4WPF and WD2XGJ. WD2XGJ was visible since about 20:00 UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500 Khz: Good copy of WD2XSH/17 in CW mode. Only partial copy of the CW signal from WE2XGR/2. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC24-fc473368b72d5; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:51:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC12-fc473368b72d5; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDNC-0003AQ-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqDNB-0003AH-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:05 +0000 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.190] helo=rn-out-0102.google.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDN5-00055L-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:49:03 +0000 Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id e21so204065rng for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:48:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=azxdugddTgEwf1QusJswJ42F/78fq/YCrLFzFLm41aI=; b=AXiV4TuNzUBokbgBZxR1vbyx8YceRdv/1SkkFHZebgYagOx1353N9NvNUC5/6EwWabcOviQ8PtTKckJ7qp4sTNi1QQVudy3wBtp3cf0j/yYGoOl27eu9hKNLMBBVSAQao7OjGfBZ6ipR2SEBAwJnrF3/l/4KI5IYB9knxaqM46s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ORHJ6+Ygk/tPg62QoCCKiwA5p5uUpgwplMwTnUKFy3Xpw0+Pc4oR1cnZhGI5nnC4PwBC0PBNaKOmfTEsCl4A1bjicdRFIuZ6XtMKln23QIIDk9/EEwT4EReJNmg+aeHICmAfjce13SBF5LcdlEJUfo1r1/9seV6eVlbo1JFfx80= Received: by 10.150.158.8 with SMTP id g8mr199427ybe.1194551335213; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:48:55 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the trace. Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from a Russian transmitter. Andy G4JNT On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > (the latter with radio direction finding). > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > the E-field spectrogram. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b354731a789ea; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:54:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC081-b354731a789ea; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:54:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjUR-0004XB-PD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpjUQ-0004X2-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 Received: from smtpauth01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpjUL-0003ds-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 10285 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 11:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpauth01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.181) with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2007 11:53:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:54:34 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <47317984.9090401@online.fr> X-Karma: -996: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. I was only on the air for about 30 minutes last night. Warren's signal appears to have increased in the last week. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1d8472e1bf07; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:22:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC52-1d8472e1bf07; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:22:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iol37-0003d9-BZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iol36-0003d0-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iol33-0000V0-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.14] (helo=4.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iol2h-00058o-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:55 +0100 Received: from f054164248.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.164.248]:1118 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 4.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1Iol2h-0007Yq-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:21:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> In-Reply-To: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Gary, I use an IC706 (first model) for my 136 kHz transverter, and it works like a charm (with the CW filter of course). The nice thing about this radio is, all oscillators are derived from a 30 MHz master oscillator, which can easily be synchronized to the 10 MHz OCXO. In my tranverter, this OCXO drives the transverter (10.136 MHz <-> 0.136 MHz), so everything is driven from the same reference. I didn't check if the IC706 can be modified to generate a signal at 10.503 MHz (+/-). If so, it could be used as a duoband transverter for MF+LF, using the same mixers, only different bandpass filters in the frontend. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . Gary - G4WGT schrieb: > Hi All at LF, > > There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF > operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its > frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 > this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? > > I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on > to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven > from a HF transciever like the IC706. > > Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much > appreciated. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b69473b6b832f7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:41:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD033-b69473b6b832f7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPyq-00057F-6D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPyp-000576-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPyk-0006C8-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:41:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6E03EA114 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D0B3EA0F4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B6B67.1060809@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:55 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Grabber 137 kHz WD2XGJ ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren (K2ORS) , Is your signal with started to be visble with 20:05 UTC, PLEASE which the hour of your sunset? It seems to me that it will not be there before an=20 hour! (it is 21:35 UTC) it is really beyond what I saw up to now! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Hello friends of the L F, > > The grabber will be ON , this evening to see at which time the=20 > signals of Warren will be visible . > > You can see it by this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with > this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b6c472f9c172a3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:41:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c472f9c172a3; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:41:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAa4-0001PY-G7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAa1-0001PP-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:01 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAZv-0004or-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:01 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.114]) by hpsmtp-eml20.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:50 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml114.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <003201c81ffc$7281fbc0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:37:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 22:37:49.0683 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EA21430:01C81FFC] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.245,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511xgj.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C82004.D42F5950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950" ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj 22:30z henny pa3cpm jo22mb antenne slooper 7meter rec:rohde&schwarz ek9891 73s ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C82004.D42F5950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB044-ac5473f5df0253; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:32:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB053-ac5473f5df0253; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:32:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVGq-0005WR-Fx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVGp-0005WI-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:07 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVGm-0000BG-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:07 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7B5F01C00086 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:31:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.156]) by mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 525BC1C00082 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:31:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071117213138337.525BC1C00082@mwinf3414.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:31:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi John, Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is dead center on 503.6 G .... Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: "rsgb" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > Hello LF, > I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal > PSK31 > > What mode is it? > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: > 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-e24735bb2a141; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:07:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB46-e24735bb2a141; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:07:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqqzE-0004Om-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:07:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqqzD-0004Od-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqqzA-000595-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE7D61C00087 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:06:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.52.20]) by mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 86FC31C00084 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:06:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071110140650553.86FC31C00084@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000701c823a2$f946cce0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <3aaadcb80711100406u1e4d0472t7e0e7c2d54a87221@mail.gmail.com> <20071110122654.0972860a@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : John , I wonder if the daytime signals are 'normal' or just as the sun activty is quite low , the attenuation is 'low' , I have seen signals from down south during the day as well .... See you still loosing the top section of the ae , I lost one of the strops that night as well , but that was a smaller rope , acting as a 'fuse' Have you considered using small stainless steel 'wire' , small boat rigging sort of , like, or bigger :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-Wire-Rope-316-Marine-Grade-3-mm-No-Res_W0QQitemZ220169930002QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: 501.5KHz GI3PDN beacon daytime report 1200 hrs UTC > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:06:48 +0000 > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > >> peaked RST 4 3 9 in Ipswich (JO02NB) dropped to about S1 after 5 >> minutes. band noise level low at present. >> > > Hello LF, Ray, Chris, > > Just had a listen and GI3PDN is RST539. Band noise extremely low so > fully Q5 despite being very weak, as long as I use the external tuneable > pre-amp. Also hearing GW4HXO calling CQ on 502.02 very weak but just > readable 429. Mal of course S8-9 on 502.5 as ever... > > Waiting for a chance to drop the TX antenna to replace the broken > capacity wire which was the only damage sustained in Thursdays force > 10-11 winds (gusts to 93mph were recorded locally...). Probably won't > be until tomorrow until I get a chance. Unitl then I'm RX only (again!) > > Cheers, > > John > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: > 11/9/2007 19:29 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-9154738e9391f8; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:01:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD075-9154738e9391f8; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjBw-0006Vt-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjBv-0006Vk-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:43 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjBp-0002Zz-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:42 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cdb.1de49388 (34980) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (ac9e6815.ipt.aol.com [172.158.104.21]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA085-88a44738e8dd260; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: <9FC2791632D74613B66D98AB2CBEA77A@Amilo3205> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4738961F.1178.2B6BE7@localhost> <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> In-Reply-To: <004701c82558$20e09cc0$0900a8c0@Lark> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:59:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov - DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C82590.67643D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40" ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Alan, I believe Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of the band= actually do come from DCF39. Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transradio solid state transmit= ter, which unfortunately appears to have much less efficient modulation wave= form shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and has come on for a few= hours from time to time. This is also the reason for the different reported= idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before, 138830.6 Hz now). There is a grabber shot on http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands= _070404.png which shows the difference of the spectral characteristics. Espe= cially in quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to abou= t 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been in=20= contact with a person at the German regulatory body "Bundesnetzagentur", who= was involved in the on-site acceptance testing. He was quite understanding=20= and helpful, but basically said that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed= to be within the prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enfor= ce a reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions. Due to the modulation characteristics there are however a few spectral gaps=20= in the sidebands which could be useful to us. The appended plot shows a spec= trogram between 137.5 and 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies above 135.5 kHz zero=20= beat). The vertical streaks show visible minima at 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 2273 Hz), 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and 137.560 to 137.575 kHz. One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA (curren= tly ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps. Before we de= cide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know how much others i= n the LF group are affected. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM PS: A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's test sig= nal? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actually probably from Lakihegy > (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is very strong at night and shifts > "into" the band a couple of hundred Hz. > Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter since then= , > but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at Anthorn. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: LF: 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov > >> I have at last got my station fully running again. Having been off >> the air for a few months I notice much less Loran QRM which will make >> CW contacts possible again. But more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which >> makes QRSS harder. >> >> Monitored last night and received the following (using Argo set to >> 30s slow) : >> >> 1800 - 1850 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?) >> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF 137.777.2kHz, 'O' >> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call, 'O' >> >> Very noisy overnight. >> >> Will test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight. >> Hope to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know >> if this frequency causes anyone a problem. >> >> de Mike, G3XDV >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>=20 ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C82590.67643D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Alan,
I believe=20 Mike is right in that the FSK bursts in the upper half of the band actually=20= do=20 come from DCF39.

Since April 2nd, they have switched to a new Transra= dio=20 solid state transmitter, which unfortunately appears to have much less effic= ient=20 modulation waveform shaping. The old TX is still used as a backup and has co= me=20 on for a few hours from time to time. This is also the reason for the differ= ent=20 reported idle frequencies (138830.03 Hz before, 138830.6 Hz now).

The= re=20 is a grabber shot on http://members.ao= l.com/df6nm2/QRM/DCF39_sidebands_070404.png which shows the difference of the spectral characteristics.=20 Especially in quiet conditions, the new burst sidebands can be seen down to=20 about 137.1 kHz and do significantly affect QRSS reception here. I have been= in=20 contact with a person at the German regulatory body "Bundesnetzagentur", who= was=20 involved in the on-site acceptance testing. He was quite understanding and=20 helpful, but basically said that the emitted spectrum had been confirmed to=20= be=20 within the prescribed mask, and there was little he could do to enforce a=20 reduction of the remaining out-of-band emissions.

Due to the modulati= on=20 characteristics there are however a few spectral gaps in the sidebands which= =20 could be useful to us. The appended plot shows a spectrogram between 137.5 a= nd=20 137.8 kHz (audio frequencies above 135.5 kHz zero beat). The vertical streak= s=20 show visible minima at
 137.762 to 137.773 kHz (shown as 2262 to 227= 3=20 Hz),
 137.620 to 137.655 kHz, and
 137.560 to 137.575=20 kHz.
One possible suggestion would be to move our activity regions for TA= =20 (currently ~137.778) and QRSS (~137.700) down into the first two gaps. Befor= e we=20 decide to change our habits, it would be interesting to know how much others= in=20 the LF group are affected.

73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
PS:=20 A strong blue trace appeared near 136.319 around 19:20 - Mike's test=20 signal?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Melia"=20 <alan.melia@btinternet.com&g= t;
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: LF: Re:=20 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov


> Hi Mike I think the data bursts are actu= ally=20 probably from Lakihegy
> (Budapest) 135.5 or thereabouts, which is ver= y=20 strong at night and shifts
> "into" the band a couple of hundred=20 Hz.
> Loran from Rugby went off in July and it has been a lot quieter=20 since then,
> but it doesnt seem to be fully running 24/7 yet at=20 Anthorn.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message=20 -----
> From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com<= /FONT>>
>=20 To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 PM
> Su= bject: LF:=20 136kHz DX 11/12 Nov
>
>> I have at last got my station fully=20 running again. Having been off
>> the air for a few months I notice= =20 much less Loran QRM which will make
>> CW contacts possible again.=20= But=20 more QRM from DCF39 data bursts which
>> makes QRSS=20 harder.
>>
>> Monitored last night and received the follow= ing=20 (using Argo set to
>> 30s slow) :
>>
>> 1800 - 18= 50=20 Unidentified station on 137.776kHz (who?)
>> 1900 - 2000 UA4WPF=20 137.777.2kHz, 'O'
>> 0610 - 0700 XKO 137.777.4kHz One complete call= ,=20 'O'
>>
>> Very noisy overnight.
>>
>> Wi= ll=20 test my beacon on 136.318.7kHz this evening, but not overnight.
>>=20= Hope=20 to run an overnight beacon later this week. Please let me know
>> i= f=20 this frequency causes anyone a problem.
>>
>> de Mike,=20 G3XDV
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
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<20071103181214.VZU29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:12:14 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472CB9F3.129.25DCF2E@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.436 Subject: LF: Parallel port problem Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have just changed the computer I use for running ON7YD's QRS program to key my transmitter. Both old and new computers run WIN98. The old one worked fine with QRS, but the new one behaves strangely. I use pin 3 on the printer port and it measures +5V on key down and 0V on key up (as expected) but after a few seconds of key up it returns to +5V again. The idle state is +5V and it always returns to this state after a few seconds. Any ideas? Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-910472f60d9286; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:28:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-910472f60d9286; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:28:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6gO-00056B-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip6gN-000562-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:19 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip6gK-0001Zx-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:28:19 +0000 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8898C270BCD for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817EC270BCD for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC1F495BBF for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from proxy.wartsila.com (proxy.wartsila.com [194.251.142.28]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1194287267.472f60a3580a9@imp.netikka.net> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:27:47 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 194.251.142.28 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) One copy for me please. Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting James Moritz : > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to se= e > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9da4744ea72364; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:33:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da4744ea72364; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:33:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv1ru-0007Zo-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv1rt-0007Zf-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:41 +0000 Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv1rp-0002AZ-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:41 +0000 Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fc5W1Y0090mlR8U0A07T00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:35 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FeYV1Y0052Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:32:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=RPDut8cvebACSUp7ofQA:9 a=2k1qBO4J4BzsxeDTfU2RjOTGOdcA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <67468F8E622E4E27BCAA028A701925F3@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:32:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz Tonight WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello the list, WD2XGJ on only from 00:10 to 02:30 UTC tonight, bad weather and poor band conditions. I will save the electricity! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8a6473ebdcae5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:09:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA048-8a6473ebdcae5; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:09:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItKbE-0004AV-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItKbE-0004AM-5Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItKbA-0000mw-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:28 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42270DA539 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:17 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, While I was making some recordings of various signals on MF and HF to demonstrate the "sound" of my Inrad 250Hz filter for another list member's benefit I decided to see what real effect the various additional external hardware I have built made to the ability to pull signals from the noise. I've noticed many times recently that I can often hear people on 500, especially during the day, and yet be unable to make myself heard. I always put this down to my low noise level. While this will have some bearing I also wonder if some of my simple extra hardware is responsible. I have an op-amp based tuneable RF pre-amp and a simple op-amp 10Hz audio filter. Nothing "rocket science". My previous understanding of noise floor and necessary RX sensitivity was that, especially on the lower bands, performance was limited by the external band noise and really sensitive RX front ends were unnecessary - all you do is amplify the noise.... My IC-718 has a measured MDS of -119dBm (IPO) and -125dBm (pre-amp on) on 500kHz and similar figures on 300kHz in an SSB filter b/w. The old maxim of "if you can hear the noise increase when you connect the antenna then you've got enough sensitivity" would indicte that this is more than adequate. However.... Have a listen to the recording here :-- http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/OZN_372_RX_test.mp3 In this test I tuned to 372.420kHZ, the upper sideband ident of the OZN-372 NDB in Greenland. At 09:30z it's not too strong here. In fact it was totally inaudible. The noise level was too high to make it worthwhile adding more gain in front of the RX....or so I thought. The recording starts with the RX in CW mode, 2.3kHz IF filter and no internal or external pre-amp. Pretty noisy and no sign of either OZN or the more local ODR. I switch in my 10Hz AF filter. The wideband crud disappears, but still no OZN. Next comes the LF353 op-amp tuneable pre-amp. This shouldn't help, as all I'll do is amplify the noise, right...? Bingo! Both OZN and, a few Hz lower, ODR. I have a local NDB (TL-376) and the keying harmonics (multiples of 400Hz) can be just be heard (wearing 'phones) - a final switch if the IC-718 internal 250Hz inrad filter cleans it up. My queston now is.... Would more people benefit from similar, simple, additions to their 500kHz stations? Many people are still trying to receive on wide IF filters and straightforward amateur rigs (the IC-718 is one such rig). My experience of being able to hear people perfectly Q5 yet be inaudible to them might be in part due to the extra hardware, not purely my superior location? -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB11-189472f74ec3d5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:54:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB33-189472f74ec3d5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:54:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip81V-0006Wq-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip81V-0006Wh-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip81T-0002yJ-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:54:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DFE4E5BA4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8fHMU0ZcYVjd for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056E14E5BA3 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:58:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:53:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c81fe5$8d9a9870$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] G3KEV_CW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81FED.EF5F0070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice signal! 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C81FED.EF5F0070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report / Great expectations =D8 Hi Graham, ah but yes it will!!. The skip you talk about is due to=20 the > ground wave fading below the noise qrm at ranges before the skywave starts > to come in at good strength. This is well known in the Lowfer (160 to=20 > 180kHz > 1 Watt DC) fraternity in the States. the higher power Part 5 stations dont > get this problem. On the commercial station power levels the ground wave > equals the skywave strength at somewhere around 700 km (CCIR reccs), and=20 > if =D8 =D8 That distance is the zone where no use can be made of the signal du= e=20 to severe , constant multi path propagation ? , well out side the 'uk' and= =20 our 100 mW erp ! =D8 > you plug the figures into to the late Reg Edwards GRNDWAV4 program you=20 > will > see how the ground wave fades with decreasing power level. Those of us=20 > that > live in domestic areas have to put up with a higher level of blanketing > noise than John, which make the situation far worse. > > A little bit more power could enable us to achieve better groundwave=20 > ranges > in daytime than are possible on top-band. Then add to that the possibility > of daytime skywave at longer distances and it could well help. There will > always be a rapid fading at shortish distances (100 to300km) but more=20 > power > would give some fade margin so the signals didnt go right out. =D8 =D8 That's a disputable area , the point I was making , was that , fro= m=20 observation , power levels of stations inside the uk look to have little=20 effect on the 'peak to dip' ratio of the qsb , I think the early beacon's=20 proved one thing , that's when 'in range' power is not a problem , If I can=20 'see' my signal at Bham, ~75 miles , just outside what , could be called the= =20 'service area' dropping the tx power as low as can , makes very little=20 change to the pk/dip ratio , Increasing the level will 'enable' a contact= =20 , but the ratio still looks to 'hold' ? =D8 =D8 =D8 > > On the data, a "locked" signal should be somewhere around at least 6dB > better under fading but it has to flywheel its parameters through the=20 > fade, > not suddenly start hunting for them again when the signal disappears. Much > data software is not written for these LF type conditions, Amtor ARQ would > be good with some error correction and longer bursts than 3 chars.... > possibly adaptive to match the fading conditions. The origin SITOR was > designed for HF conditions which have different problems. Selective fading > is not really an issue at LF. =D8 =D8 I ran some propagation 'observations' using 3 carrier spaced 100 Hz= =20 apart , that showed quite a marked 'fade pattern' with the highest frequency= =20 displaying a longer pk/dip ratio than the lower frequency , I would say=20 20/30 p/c longer , and during a 50 Hz qsy , hf , the top trace was totally=20 lost at Shetland, leaving just the lower 2 showing , totally un-expected ! =D8 =D8 NB : It was the out come of theses that prompted , me to suggest=20 that 85 Hz shift be used on rtty , 200/170 being vulnerable to carrier=20 loss and in tests with Gary , 25 Hz did not perform well in the high noise=20 level , =D8 =D8 I was involved (at work) in a kite fly about > a Marine Radio data protocol that would have used an (A)X25 type of > protocol with narrow bandwidth and a packet handshake that would have been > very effective. =D8 =D8 Yes , amtor would provide one of the reliable data mode , HF 110= =20 baud packet may also work , but these modes require a 'decodable' signal ,=20 at range signal levels rarely reach this level , oddly packet may provide=20 the answer, but the bandwith use is a little high , The Olivia system gave=20 'good' results when I ran a test a while ago , the wider version may prove=20 quite robust but would take 'too much' band space . =D8 =D8 =D8 =D8 The ultimate is GPS locked and that is very effective. If > you want to see the the effectiveness of a locked system look at WOLF.=20 > This > is not designed for "conditions adaptive" operation though, but I have > copies signals way below the level QRSS can be seen on 136kHz. Even the=20 > "QSO > mode" Wolf B put in does not make it friendy for qso work. A good system > should go quickly when conditions are good and slow down, integrating the > repeats, in bad spells, until the packet checksums agree. > =D8 =D8 These modes look interesting, but require 'linear' system's ,=20 unfortunately a lot of work has been undertaken with non-linear system's=20 hopefully Jim's EER system may roll out as a retro-fit =D8 =D8 A digital band . you can hear them or you cannot hihi Graham .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-e147298e38bf; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:28:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB45-e147298e38bf; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:28:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InVP4-0007eJ-Ki for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InVP4-0007eA-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:50 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InVP1-0000DU-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:27:49 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96C5DA4D6 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:27:40 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101082740.18172494@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2> <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! > Dave, LF, The other option is more power of course! If your antenna is inefficient due to low radiation resistance you need more current and if it's poor because of high environmental losses you need more driving power to get the current. I tried a simple vertical 2 weeks ago in an attempt to eliminate the top loading wires for the winter (got tired of them breaking free in the gales). The antenna was 11m with no top-capacity loading and using a professional FSM I found that with 80W TX power and 0.9A RF current at the feed-point I got an ERP of only 85mW. I relented and installed some top-loading. With 4 x 7m long capacity loading wires running down the upper guys (not a long horizontal stretch), and only 30W TX power, I achieved 140mW ERP. The bare vertical was very inefficient due to low Rrad, as there was plenty of current flowing, almost 1A. The top loading however gave 6dB gain in ERP! I also found the overall R dropped considerably with the longer top-load wires (previously I'd used 3.5m long loading wires), needing large change in matching transformer taps to get back to 50 ohms. The overall losses must be lower. Probably due in part to needing much less L to bring it to resonance, and fewer losses in the loading coil. If I couldn't improve the ground losses, which I find I can't either (very wet peat on rock isn't great!) I'd put more power into the antenna, which I do. I find that with a real "QRP" TX of ~5W I'd not be heard by anyone except in the most perfect of conditions. At least you have some locals to work I suppose. My nearest regular stations are Mal and Finbar - both over 600km away, even Mark GM4ISM is 500km+ and he's a "GM"! No-one will hear you if you can't radiate a signal! I heard Chris G3XVL call/work you on Tuesday and strained my ears, and eyes on the waterfall, but could see nothing more than the very faintest hint of a signal between his overs. More power Igor! -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA013-8d3474368892bb; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:06:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d3474368892bb; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:06:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IucAf-00030l-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IucAe-00030c-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:20 +0000 Received: from mail6.ssmb.com ([199.67.203.180] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IucAY-0005bn-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:20 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu02 [169.186.216.28]) by imbaspam-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id lAKN69Mi011028 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:13 GMT Received: from mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (mailhub-dc2.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.205.199]) by imbarc-eu02.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/SSMB_QQQ_IN/1.1) with ESMTP id lAKN65M5002014 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05 GMT Received: from exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net (Exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net [169.183.26.36]) by mailhub-dc2.eu.ssmb.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/CG_HUB) with ESMTP id lAKN65Kn000779 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05 GMT Received: from exukmb49.eur.nsroot.net ([169.183.32.64]) by exuksm06.eur.nsroot.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:04 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:06:04 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) Thread-Index: Acgryezl4BDbzZmRSZykEvBPmOqUnA== From: "Scholz, Marco " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 23:06:05.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED6306D0:01C82BC9] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.186.247.38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: My 1st X-Band QSO 3533 / 502 KHz :-) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, very happy here about my 1st X-Band QSO 3533/502 KHz this evening with Mal, G3KEV. At 9pm UTC i had a sked with Finbar,GI4DPE, but unfortunately at this time his signal was to weak. One hour later at 10:10pm i heard G3KEV very good on 502KHz and the QSO was quickly done, many many thanks. IO94sh-JN49ax, QRB 753Km My Rig: FT-857D, on 80m 85W on a FD-4, on 500KHz PA0RDT-Miniwhip antenna. Vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b78472e0cf0222; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:18:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b78472e0cf0222; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:18:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iok2l-0002a8-CF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iok2k-0002Zz-OZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:54 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iok2h-0004iI-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:17:54 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.108]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:45 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml108.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c81f0e$f6535a00$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:17:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2007 18:17:45.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF56C920:01C81F0E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0411wpf.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C81F17.57FDD160" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of wpf 10:25utc jo22mb henny pa3cpm=20 antenne slooper 7meter 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C81F17.57FDD160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxPDI-0007hO-VQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:37 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxPDE-0000dI-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:36 +0000 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JBtr1Y00A0SCNGk050NR00; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:26 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JFsM1Y0092Uxt080300000; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:26 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w9nWzfgW10PZj8CtiRIA:9 a=_r-oLylG6gD3Dl3jf17GuQEs0PMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=MInBT2ynV54A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=nKFicssZskd9_4r2hwAA:9 a=NOnh-9QtC_sxHmj8lFoA:7 a=tuMBEIzLmCD9S0UtxkgrvXHn6L8A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <8F12E7F54702482CA852576914E4FE1B@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000001c831cf$ddc07cb0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> In-Reply-To: <000001c831cf$ddc07cb0$bf7ba8c0@Willem1> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:52:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.780 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Willem, Henny, Thanks for the captures! 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Willem de Roode=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: LF: 137.780 Wd2xgj capture In jo22mb=20 73s wim pa3ego =20 ------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Willem, Henny,
 
  Thanks for the captures!
73 Warre= n=20 K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
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------=_NextPart_000_02FF_01C831AC.BF952E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-95b4732eecc2a4; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:11:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b4732eecc2a4; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:11:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq5HN-0000wO-3e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq5HM-0000wF-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:32 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq5HH-0001j8-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:32 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with smtp id AB961Y0020QuhwU0000500; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:21 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ABAM1Y0011pKLLP0000000; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:10:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mTyO3kaYhavuwwfJhnYA:9 a=VbYeFSlKJU_GOfq_zanMeFHxEsQA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 Message-ID: <001601c821f7$f3ed19e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <4732DF82.5000801@online.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:10:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.295 Subject: LF: Re: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jean-Pierre I would appreciate the return of your grabber. Real time (or nearly so) feedback from grabbers provide worthwhile information. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:05 AM Subject: LF: [137] Grabber or not grabber ? Hello LF'ers , In spring , I stopped my “grabber” 137kHz because I thought that it harmed the activity on this band ! I will be able to give it in service this winter . I will like to have your opinion before doing it , if you think that it is harmful with the activity of the 137 Khz ? Thank you for your answer. 73 f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-b72473b79e4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:42:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD044-b72473b79e4394; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:42:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQwJ-0005Mk-OC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQwJ-0005Mb-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsQwG-0004DW-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:42:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 40895 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 22:06:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=eVLUtCoLJgPnynHpK9HpDCRuMdYf1Q3avHHAGYEVsohQpx7Nk/U2o7bKzs9Q11JIsCKFt/X7isFfQz1C4phNGhKap0jXsEcnbpXN6GaesRQ/0fffsgt8HRAAwhvg5miQsVnm4+fSTpyvT/2bpYQshrtJbMrIazupvP1IhUd7s0U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.56.98 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 22:06:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8hZM29QVM1lX4_4mSDURfywTxLvsBQ77MS9fbZZBbGOfh2CUtZqNCEx_cNr2LoRyWQ88x2Ra6Q-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.31/1130]); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:04:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c8270a$565f46e0$62387ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001901c826b6$4b110890$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:04:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.123 Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear John, LF Group, I would favour sticking with the "no formal band plan" arrangement that we have at the moment. The reason for the current informal band plan getting out of date is not really to do with chamging amateur operating practice, but with the utilities that operate inside or near the band. At HF, if you do have non-amateur signals taking up residence in a particular band segment, there is still some room elsewhere in the same segment to continue operating. But at HF, band segments are usually at least 10s of kilohertz, while with only 2.1kHz total bandwidth to play with at 136k, the band segments can only be hundreds of Hz wide and a whole segment can be made unusable by even a single utility signal. In these circumstances, we have to be prepared to QSY in order to make best use of what spectrum is available, and this has happened a number of times in the past. Since 136kHz is uniquely narrow, we have little or no influence with the utilities, and have the band on secondary basis, I think this band has to be treated as a special case where flexibility in operating practices is needed. Any set of guidelines that can be produced can be rendered obsolete if one of the utility operators decides to change frequency, so I think an informal arrangement among amateurs that changes to suit prevailing conditions is best. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: LF: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Mike, G3XDV, has mentioned that the current guidelines for the band, shown on the IARU Region 1 bandplan, and adopted by some national society bandplans, e.g. RSGB, are now somewhat out-of-date. It would be timely to review whether to remove the existing guidelines. The current guidelines were put into place at the San Marino Conference in 2002 and then the general view then was that band planning was not the preference, hence the proposals were given the status of guidelines.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-91b472fb6b8243; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:35:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b472fb6b8243; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:35:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpCP5-0003VX-7a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpCP4-0003VO-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:50 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpCP0-0006Wf-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:34:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 37737 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2007 00:34:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ervONzGpNijpR3gcqZNBF/+wBl34UvhY9HzA33mxuLS+wuOLkjdgujIX3wgQiSK64aXJaqvFEBTTCK90AgMZubbKsnI0KlqTypvMgebgJKxyy99fFaG7XviL1SETElFK38PJGImZL+HVQ+axixWyGb7dCwiP0jVbVo/L7IuqXvw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.3.85 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2007 00:33:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ia4RzBQVM1k5SWyBxHGMFKekwHqABp9.M4bjy0eBfiZXeHSqj_HoEDeNglEpVgL6IvkKS9p82A-- Message-ID: <00a701c8200c$be6d7540$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <003601c81faa$d39e08b0$0d00000a@AGB> <005101c81fcb$fc19cab0$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> <000b01c8200a$2e1885e0$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:34:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Misunderstanding ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Well the thermo RF current meters measure RMS current, but have you looked at the current from the PSU on a scope?? It shouldn't vary much if the choke is doing its job properly. The FET switches the current to ground and when it opens the current is diverted to flow into the shunt capacitor. The choke tries to maintain the current flow by generating a "back emf"....this is what chokes do. If the design is done properly (the choke and the shunt cap are the right size) there should ve very little "ripple" in the current, so the load seen by the psu should be fairly constant and it should not show "sag". Note that it is not a 50% squarewave. Conversely if the design criteria are not followed the efficiency will be compromised. These PAs are really just switching power supplies and those achieve very high efficiencies at similar frequencies. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? Thats the point, the out put is 'pure' no problem to measure , but the dc feed looks to be a 'complex' function ...any allowance made in the calc's , past P = I*V ? Same problem, pulsed radars are very sensitive to psu ripple causing 'spurious side bands' ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? It looks like you have a serious problem, sounds more like a Radar tx. The output from my class E is a beautiful sine wave, this is followed by a 5 pole LPF. For testing it is preferable to use a spectrum analyzer, and a good calibrated scope and a quality DL G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E.... Instrumet induced errors ? ..... The 'I' supply to the stage dosent look like a sine wave , more like a pulse train ? , thats the case will need a little more than a avo-8 to get the correct value, vlaues may be actually higher than conventionally measured, giving lower conversion factors ? supply bandwith may also be a issure, caused by switching -rise times- is there a voltage collapse on the leading edge, there must be some , but how much , reducing the 'area under the curve' ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency = 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A = 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a ÂŁ20,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency = Power Out / Power In 50 / 63.58 = 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF? With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A = 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms = 68.4W Efficiency = 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I = 1.23A in 50 ohms = 75W Out Efficiency = 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms = 67W Efficiency = 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC23-1c8472f9eaa251; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC36-1c8472f9eaa251; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:52:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAnn-0001rY-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:52:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpAnm-0001rP-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:52:14 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpAng-0003M1-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Henny you have a very nice receiving set-up. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > 22:30z > henny pa3cpm > jo22mb > antenne slooper 7meter > rec:rohde&schwarz ek9891 > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ac2472bb620f2; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac2472bb620f2; 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Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:12:53 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:12:52 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <472AE41D.5060104@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.408 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ , WD2XES Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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There may have been a very weak trace on one of your captures, but most likely it was my imagination. Thank-you for your continued efforts. The beacon remains in operation. 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : > WD2XGJ and WD2XES > > On 189.95 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b6f47341ab53c7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD041-b6f47341ab53c7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPGB-0006Np-H8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqPGB-0006Ng-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPG7-0001Iw-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:30:39 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816593EA0EF for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:30:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373AF3EA0CE for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:30:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47341AAA.6050907@online.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:30:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : XKO , XGJ and XNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_80_90, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night good copy of : WD2XGJ WD2XNS WD2XKO the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8c54738f2613cd; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c54738f2613cd; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjoN-0006jC-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrjoM-0006j3-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:26 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrjoI-0005T6-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:26 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071113003844m14004kbhte>; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:54 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:43 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "LF Group RSGB" Cc: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:38:43 +0000 Message-Id: <111320070038.1155.4738F21300022D120000048322007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: G3LDO xband X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ha-Jo, Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > Dear all, > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > contact started at > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > told him I would wait. > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > which he sent to F2JB. > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > became almost unreadible. > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC24-6e84736d0ac271; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:51:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC62-6e84736d0ac271; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:51:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir9Ss-00019r-7l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir9Sq-00019i-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:49 +0000 Received: from smtpout0183.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.183] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir9Sm-0003Ra-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:47 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.234.174) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A002E6A8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c82448$508be5d0$aeeafc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.432,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx report pse call on 3533/7033 kcs for xband qso 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough ----- Original Message -----=20 From: F4DTL@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV=20 Hello Mal. Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP Best 73 from F4DTL=20 RX: IC 7400 Ant: mini whip PA0RDT ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx report pse call on 3533/7033 kcs for xband qso
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
----- Original Message -----
F4DTL@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9= :22=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 G3KEV

Hello Mal.
Strong signals calling on 502.5kHz in JN18FP
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL
RX: IC 7400
Ant:=20 mini whip PA0RDT
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C82442.450ADB40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.144]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC11-1b0472cda733ac; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:31:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC12-1b0472cda733ac; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:30:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdX-0007UQ-DX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdW-0007UH-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:31 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPdS-0004hs-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 62695 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 20:30:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=d4JTpYgqs9cXVbFeGzAKlQHPg8u72ugIYBY6a4s8Gs1g6Db0zJlZ5Cb1P6t5eWybZzSK6x67IVeFbuZed8ime4GAPQnQvXCmFE+KxZdz4Fh3GkxjsN4WPzy1B83Yet+UTRv1DAwWF2pCv/FZZ6i0xpf0yyvTkaryk3X0v5IrthI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 20:30:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xy86bqAVM1lcy4GmMbalmuJUcQtm_Jnp3QtOsPo9ipVqUg.U Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:28:43 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:28:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Graham, Gary, LF Group, Nil here since about 1950utc or so ... since I sent my last e-mail in fact! I assume Gary has shut down - the fades seemed to go in cycles of about 5 - 10 minutes, so I should have seen him again by now. There were some faint traces of something on 503.0k earlier, but could have just been noise. BTW Gary, what are you using to repeat the transmissions (assuming it isn't being done manually...)? Seems quite a useful feature. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Jim , > > Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi > > Assume nothing seen on 503 ? > > G .. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ae047371b48233; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB086-ae047371b48233; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEQu-00022e-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrEQu-00022V-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrEQr-0000NK-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:09:08 +0000 X-Trace: 644526005-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAGSpNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 15:08:38 +0000 Message-ID: <02d401c82474$bd4cc370$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:08:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi LF, Testing at 503.600 KHz, 9 wpm CW ID . 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a4f472fee448f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:32:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f472fee448f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:32:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpG5i-0006MQ-0a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpG5h-0006MH-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:05 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpG5f-0005vd-65 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:31:05 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d49.157fe81a (39331) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:30:53 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194323453" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194323453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,good signal from WD2XGJ tonight at 23:00 received with only my very little active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT). Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 756 PRO Ant: mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194323453 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,good signal from WD2XGJ tonight at 23:00 received=20 with only my very little active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT).
 
 
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip=20 PA0RDT
 -------------------------------1194323453-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC091-b1f472b9a45103; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:44:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC053-b1f472b9a45103; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4JV-0007Vz-Rn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io4JV-0007Vq-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4JS-00004r-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 250311C00088 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.1.175]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EC4B01C00087 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102214355980.EC4B01C00087@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004201c81d99$81009540$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <472B8EBB.5010203@dunnethead.co.uk> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:44:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: psk31 on 503 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Ok Brian, Thanks for that , that looks about par for the course hihi , can not get to=20 outside london , but printing well at 500 miles ... Thanks for the report, Graham .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Brian gm4jyb" To: "LF reflector" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: LF: psk31 on 503 > 20:50hrs > Just copied the following on 503kHz:-- > > CQ CQ CQ DE...gEnbd g0nbd g0nbd CQO=A6 CQ -E...g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd CQ CQ= =20 > CQ DE...g0nbd g0nbd ggngd k > > Cheers > Brian gm4jyb > IO88hp Dunnet Head > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database:=20 > 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 18:47 > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8a6474495a01b6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA048-8a6474495a01b6; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwDm-0006f1-Iy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuwDl-0006es-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:53 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuwDh-0007cc-Q7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:30:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 6710 invoked by uid 0); 21 Nov 2007 20:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.147]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 21 Nov 2007 20:31:48 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c82c7d$5d4e3600$25be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:30:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.046,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QSL-cards LX/PA6Z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, For those who worked me last year as LX/PA6Z on 137kHz: We have not forgotten you! Marcel, PA9M, our QSL manager QSP-ed all cards to me personally, problem how= ever is that I still have to make a sticker or something to put on the card,= and to fill that in. That seems rather simple, but I have to limited computer knowledge to this..= ..... (sri) Besides that a QRL change and upcoming house-move won't help much. I will do all I can to answer all received cards, but pleas be patience; mig= ht take some more months. My apologies to all of you who has been waiting so (to) long..... 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
For those who worked me last year as LX/PA6= Z on=20 137kHz:
 
We have not forgotten you!
 
Marcel, PA9M, our QSL manager QSP-ed all ca= rds to=20 me personally, problem however is that I still have to make a sticker or=20 something to put on the card, and to fill that in.
That seems rather simple, but I have to lim= ited=20 computer knowledge to this....... (sri)
 
Besides that a QRL change and upcoming hous= e-move=20 won't help much.
 
I will do all I can to answer all received=20= cards,=20 but pleas be patience; might take some more months.
 
My apologies to all of you who has been wai= ting so=20 (to) long.....
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C82C85.BE6AC540-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-88f472f47d33df; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:42:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA021-88f472f47d33df; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:41:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip51D-0002tg-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip51D-0002tX-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip51A-00039G-0o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C6EB1C00084 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.0.166]) by mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7555F1C00089 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105164134480.7555F1C00089@mwinf3008.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005401c81fca$ba228b20$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:41:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.086 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, You can post the files on this page , anyone can view then , might be better having one 'master set' if you need to up-date etc http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-88d47309b11289; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d47309b11289; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRZk-0008VY-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpRZh-0008VP-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:49 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpRZa-0004pi-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071106164635m15009tolqe>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:46:35 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:34 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071646.17068.47309A69000BE173000042AC22064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP There really isn't a need to even specify a power limitation ! If the WRC conferees thought about it for even 1 minute they'd realize that it's self limiting! Not many hams are going to put 300 meter high top loaded towers! You quickly realize in this business that with amateur size towers or antennas that you very soon come up against component limitations in terms of voltage (short verticals) or current (loops). If there were no limits at all the vast majority of hams would still be at the 1 watt or less ERP level, perhaps a very few ambitious hams might reach 5 watts, in any case not enough to cause interference to anything. It is foolishness on the part of the WRC conferees to split hairs between ERP and EIRP! If there is a 1W EIRP ham band, I will continue to renew my Experimental license WD2XGJ which has a 10W ERP limit and no interference reports to date! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Scott Tilley > The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP according to Jim, VE3IQ one > of major driving forces behind it. i May even have an email around here > somewhere explaining the issue from many years back... I think they may > have intended to ask for 1W EIRP and start off by asking for 1W ERP, you > know the old ask for more and have what you want as a concession... > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > Steve McDonald wrote: > >> On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 > >> dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a > >> step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this > >> allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more > >> restrictive EIRP, right? > >> > > > > This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it > > this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of > > reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian > > LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, > > which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned > > about the difference. > > > > At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, > > considering most normal backyard LF antennas. > > > > > > Steve / VE7SL > > > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8a1472e15701c0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472e15701c0; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokc9-00034H-JH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokc9-000348-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokc6-00055f-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:54:29 +0000 X-Trace: 641718536-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CANyjLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:54:21 +0000 Message-ID: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:54:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven from a HF transciever like the IC706. Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much appreciated. 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No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Last night i copy : WD2XKO WD2XGJ ( Verry good signal ) WD2XES WD2XNS Captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b27474bd21330f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC063-b27474bd21330f; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:15:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwvZh-0004EZ-GQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:13:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) 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tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Bonjour Cricri et tous , Michel est au Radio Club =E0 l'heure qu'il est , si tu peux recevoir le=20 137.7 en direct , veilles cette fr=E9quence dans l'apr=E8s midi , il serait=20 bon que tu puisses recevoir son signal dans le grand sud ! le stream=20 audio via internet diffus=E9 par Michel est =E9quivalent au signal qui sort=20 de ton SDR et qui rentre dans la carte son , c'est pour ceux qui n'ont=20 pas de r=E9cepteur sur 137 kHz . Pour ma part je mettrai un grabber d=E9di= =E9=20 =E0 cette manippe cet apr=E8s midi jusqu'a 22:00 utc ( apr=E8s je bascule su= r=20 le trafic transat ! ) il sera dispo =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/GrabberWK.htm 73 qro J-P afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Hello LF , > > Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO > > see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of captures of night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG074-a1d474b248e331; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:55:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG067-a1d474b248e331; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:54:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwk2Y-00029v-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iwk2Y-00029m-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.libero.it ([212.52.84.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwk2V-0001ww-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:46 +0000 Received: from mailrelay11.libero.it (192.168.32.128) by smtp-out3.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4688F31B0FBDF5DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:34 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AusRANuzSkfD0kEp/2dsb2JhbACBVA Received: from wca21.libero.it (HELO enri) ([195.210.65.41]) by outrelay11.libero.it with SMTP; 26 Nov 2007 20:54:28 +0100 Received: from ppp-161-46.24-151.libero.it (pre@ppp-161-46.24-151.libero.it [151.24.46.161]) by wca21.libero.it (SlipStream SP Server 5.0.154 built 2006/05/15 18:21:44 -0400 (EDT)); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:29 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: [151.24.46.161] X-Originating-User: [pre] From: "Enrico" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:52:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <000701c829fb$53914aa0$47e8fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal X-Karma: -1000: uceprotect.blacklist: if-bad(0) => return-bad(1.0) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OIMO=0.981 Subject: LF: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OIMO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Mal, can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an electrical scheme? Thank you an Bye. IW4CXL Enrico -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 A: rsgb Oggetto: LF: classs E Hi all I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform was almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an almost perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not make a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only slightly better. Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 khz, so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the anamoly at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable capicator. I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the design voltage, but improved with a V increase. In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very robust. The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the base of the inv L. I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E constructors. Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an old marine tx. Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b3f473d89c4394; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:15:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f473d89c4394; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:15:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1It05M-00028n-Bm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1It05L-00028e-Ud for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:11 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It05F-0004AK-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:14:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 47048 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Th5.VhcVM1mtvSrVNhz5MNHlfn9rp3UkJR7a.A3jzc1Slwi61yHxongjT.FVrjAiRRRs_Lj3iOmaHFcsedylazekldXFr.qM53WbltNoLkzdsnnh From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <473D8985.4039.13A2543@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.520 Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 16 Nov 2007 at 9:52, hamilton mal wrote: > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. DX is always a relative thing, one man's meat is another man's poison... As the first morning with my newly resonated 160m vertical I did not hear any dx myself though there were plenty of chaps calling CQ DX with no results (but don't think I heard you calling Mal...). I slightly cheekily though called EA6SX who was calling CQ DX and grabbed a quick QSO with him, a new 2007 band slot. Last night I worked LX2007L, another new band slot. Both on 5W output. I do though have a QRM problem on that band in the form of a broadband buzzin which I suspect is coming from a local TV - it was not there this morning. Not had any such problems on 500kHz though, but it does seem the local QRM problems are getting worse and worse. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB42-e0473c349c26a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:59:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB44-e0473c349c26a; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:59:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdMc-0007Dc-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsdMa-0007DT-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:28 +0000 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsdMV-0003kg-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:28 +0000 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so479836uge for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=BDS0t/UM1pqM9N2UWdZ5aic5AabKJCC8qFrmCiv2xlI=; b=I47RtMOY4kY2QguedO+AV1jlFqtgxWickwvmreF3f/9K4vp/jZFEsj5f9zNBxza9vLpPjWPHEMKsSAYMN70xzI9NV5Gsvzrtmt6x5e16mhoONiF0A/JVKT2eZeMxeglF+cs0X1uQrfIrV3PUIm7ksEf4lgIqk900mbG/hKH46/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kgEGjPuW6W7RnH3DSLLQmf8KriJ+GwaHwoXfSwr7IkW4EUjeg3cMAO8cdnqnZwWL+fsSnjR0nDNtKQZTUQuSlNPINQkYokCLbBv5MEDzeunOeS2+oq0N4WOPS4zJhzlR7r2/WTa6fgM2QAX2M58YRPdhv6xwm+8dIowjV52UHRE= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr734454ugi.1195127900291; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.224.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:58:20 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: A bit of light reading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/NewLaws.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC42-104472f269ba5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:20:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104472f269ba5; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:20:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2o5-0008J8-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2o4-0008Iu-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:00 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2ny-0002QO-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:20:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 2750 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 14:17:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2wrsNq8K/hTgLBniwD+6sgoi6AUPt1EVc7YjOB7KhAUBB8M+W6psyeB/dyvPMCWEbHJXyUC7UWgq5xijKA8fixshU6ks2+H0Hy00BAG2w0MXb5d3w7US5nsjijM4gkx5GSj7RL8ez9j/dLancektzGQeWjoj6w8qxPzJZicr4Q4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.28.126 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 14:17:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: P2vGlGwVM1m5CNFHXLp8F1viVoQBp4_f.Jjfd48cY4D8DrqIuTtpcSg2kxN1mIjsXCDoN3EG9A-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:16:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.131 Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear LF Group, I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers of e-mails separately Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9d44736c2aa323; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:52:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44736c2aa323; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:51:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8Xd-0000jQ-Bj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ir8Xc-0000jH-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:41 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ir8XZ-0001Dk-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:51:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162533EA0F0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C501C3EA0C8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736C297.6060100@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:51:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Good copy of WD2XGJ (vy strong) , WD2XKO (22:45>07:30 utc) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b89472e32963e; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:59:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD073-b89472e32963e; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:59:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IomYT-00056s-AE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IomYS-00056j-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:48 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IomYP-00067T-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:58:48 +0000 X-Trace: 641754341-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACbBLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 20:58:39 +0000 Message-ID: <021301c81f25$796e9380$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <017a01c81f14$1bbeb870$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <472E1BD5.8080803@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:58:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Wolf, Thanks you for your comments. Are there any circuits available for this type of transverter please ? The annoying thing is that I used to have an IC706 & sold it when I gave up mobile operating but before my interest in LF. So yours is a 1st model, then that would make it a much better purchase option with lower price when I find one. Probably have to sell the JRC NRD-345 receiver first. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Büscher" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: LF: IC706 & LF/MF transverter > Hi Gary, > > I use an IC706 (first model) for my 136 kHz transverter, and it works like > a charm (with the CW filter of course). > The nice thing about this radio is, all oscillators are derived from a 30 > MHz master oscillator, which can easily be synchronized to the 10 MHz > OCXO. In my tranverter, this OCXO drives the transverter (10.136 MHz <-> > 0.136 MHz), so everything is driven from the same reference. > I didn't check if the IC706 can be modified to generate a signal at 10.503 > MHz (+/-). If so, it could be used as a duoband transverter for MF+LF, > using the same mixers, only different bandpass filters in the frontend. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > Gary - G4WGT schrieb: >> Hi All at LF, >> >> There has been mention in the past on the LF group of LF & MF >> operators using Icom IC706 as a transverter driver due to its >> frequency stability, how many of you out there use the IC706 >> this way & is the receive capability good on 136 & 500 KHz ?? >> >> I am considering selling my JRC NRD-345 receiver & moving on >> to a linear system for LF & MF employing a transverter driven >> from a HF transciever like the IC706. >> >> Any comments, ideas & circuits etc on this subject will be much >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks in anticipation. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9d9473ae42812d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:03:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d9473ae42812d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:03:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsGxT-0003Wp-Eq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsGxS-0003Wg-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:03 +0000 Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.140]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsGxP-00015D-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:02 +0000 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IsGxM-00023p-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:02:56 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "RSGB LF Group " Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:02:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c826b6$4b110890$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcgmtkZYsSGhQ/R9SRCfrJNC6sWspQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 136kHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan: Review of Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Mike, G3XDV, has mentioned that the current guidelines for the band, shown on the IARU Region 1 bandplan, and adopted by some national society bandplans, e.g. RSGB, are now somewhat out-of-date. It would be timely to review whether to remove the existing guidelines. The current guidelines were put into place at the San Marino Conference in 2002 and then the general view then was that band planning was not the preference, hence the proposals were given the status of guidelines. =20 The timetable that I would need to work to would be to put together some proposals, get them formally approved by RSGB Board (sometime early next year) as if I were proposing them they would be submitted as RSGB proposals and then the paper would be submitted to IARU Region 1 Secretariat by their deadline of April 2008. The Conference meets in Nov 2008, when the proposals would be discussed. Suggestions please. We need to consider that any proposals that we make for Region 1 won't conflict with usage of 136kHz in Regions 2 and 3! 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager, IARU Region 1 LF Coordinator. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8b0474c96b32a0; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b0474c96b32a0; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix8gT-0005mN-Tr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ix8gS-0005mE-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix8gN-0004M9-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 Received: from imbarc-eu01.eur.nsroot.net (imbarc-eu01.eu.ssmb.com [169.183.21.39]) by imbaspam-eu04.eur.nsroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 16778 $) with ESMTP id lARMDCdw002707; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: heard you on 501.3KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) SGVsbG8gSm9obiwNCnZlcnkgd2VhaywgYnV0IEkgaGVhcmQgeW91IGluIENXIChhbmQgc2Vl IHlvdXIgc2lnbmFsIGluIFNwZWN0cmFuKSAxMG1pbi4gYWdvIG9uIDUwMS4zS0h6LCB3aGVu IHlvdSB3ZXJlIGluIFgtQmFuZCBRU08gd2l0aCBhIFBBIHN0YXRpb24uDQoNCkxvYy4gaGVy ZSBKTjQ5YXgsIFJ4IGp1c3QgRlQ4NTcgYW5kIE1pbml3aGlwIGFudC4NCg0KSG9wZSBjb25k aXRpb25zIHdpbGwgYmUgYmV0dGVyIGluIHRoZSBuZXh0IGRheSwgc28gd2UgY2FuIHRyeSBh IFFTTy4NCg0KR04NCnZ5NzMNCk1hcmNvDQpERDdQQw0KY2F0cy1vcw0KQ2l0aWdyb3VwIEds b2JhbCBNYXJrZXRzIERldXRzY2hsYW5kIEFHICYgQ28uIEtHYUENCkRpcmVjdDogKzQ5IDY5 IDEzNjYgMTIxNA0KTW9iaWxlOiArNDkgMTcxIDg2NiAxMjE0DQpGYXg6ICs0OSA2OSAxMzY2 IDE1MzYNCm1haWx0bzptYXJjby5zY2hvbHpAY2l0aWdyb3VwLmNvbSANCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ade472c894124; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:44:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB084-ade472c894124; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:44:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKDi-0003ct-CE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoKDh-0003ck-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:29 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoKDa-0003AB-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:29 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071103144244m14004ma9be>; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:42:54 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:42:42 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:42:42 +0000 Message-Id: <110320071442.12205.472C88E2000B1CF900002FAD22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and captures! WD2XGJ is QRT, bad weather - Hurricane Noel -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : > WD2XGJ ( good copy at the beginning of night ) > > On 189.95 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC13-1154743fd412ec; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:41:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC37-1154743fd412ec; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:41:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ium49-00040n-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ium46-00040e-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:14 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ium43-000159-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 71228 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2007 09:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.144.203.50 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 09:39:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nwvvx4EVM1ksdpTnXGedioyExqcYHBN4AljmBqbFgzsCjqlkeo9Foi3XxCcIx0RbX64De5_LenAW3C5yuaYYlRfE.P6ENpqYUWM3VpWUwEiQV5RngLh9snnzzGhOknCMySk- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:58, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between > 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. Interesting comments John. You must certainly bear in mind that working crossband 80m to 500kHz is currently a very minor interest and something that the vast majority of users of 80m will be totally unaware of. In that respect the choice of 3533 is perhaps unfortunate as it is in a part of the band heavily used for local QSOs on that band. Somewhere rather higher, say between 3565 and 3580 or so would be far better. 7033 in theory is OK but does tend to get clobbered by RTTY and other data modes. To call CQ on 80m and say QSX 502 is doubly confusing. For somebody not aware of 500kHz it implies he is listening on 3502, probably for DX as that is the DX window. But there again there is a certain Spanish station with a big signal who calls on 160m regularly listening on 40m for replies. Those in the know say he has a high noise level on Top Band so can't hear anything there, which is rather silly. Very rarely actually hear him working anybody! 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-d3472cd71524d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:16:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB31-d3472cd71524d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:16:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPPe-0007Dg-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPPd-0007DT-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:09 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPPa-0003P2-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:16:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C2481C00087 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.13.119]) by mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4B2ED1C00086 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:16:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071103201601308.4B2ED1C00086@mwinf3423.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:16:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim , Thats the problem , now you see it .. and for a long time you dont hihi Assume nothing seen on 503 ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% > copy > at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it > running for a while. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> Graham, & All at LF, >> >> I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no > other >> decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift >> when > I >> see this message come through on the LF group mail. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> >> >> > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get >> > the >> > option , only 200/170 hz ? >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM >> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> > >> > >> >> LF, >> >> >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift > soon >> >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8a8472f013810d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:40:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA052-8a8472f013810d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:40:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Jn-0005wy-L1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Jn-0005wp-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.160] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0Jk-0004t8-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:40:35 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.101) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030C3D0027F333 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:40:26 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work out. How are the % figures measured. One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-add4731f3e71a0; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:21:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB083-add4731f3e71a0; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:20:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoZw-0005z8-AB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpoZv-0005yz-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpoZq-00028T-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:20:35 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lA7HJxGw091954 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <001c01c82162$6b0cc610$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:19:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: -916: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Laurence, So far I have made 220 mini-whips and not a single unit has failed due to st= atic AFAIK. As the pick-up element is small, the induced voltage will be much lower than= on a conventional whip antenna. The imput impedance is not really high, so=20= some protection has been build in and the J310 is a sturdy device. I have had one report from a failed home made mini-whip. On the photo a roas= ted resistor could be seen. So, it should have been a slight direct hit. Thi= s particular mini-whip was mounted 18 metre high. You can find some photo's here: http://www.pa4nic.nl/Mini-Whip/MiniWhip-pagina.html 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt=20 --=20 Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 494 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Laurence,
 
So far I have made 220 mini-whips and not a= single=20 unit has failed due to static AFAIK.
As the pick-up element is small, the induce= d=20 voltage will be much lower than on a conventional whip antenna. The imput=20 impedance is not really high, so some protection has been build in and the J= 310=20 is a sturdy device.
 
I have had one report from a failed home=20 made mini-whip. On the photo a roasted resistor could be seen. So,= it=20 should have been a slight direct hit. This particular mini-whip was mounted=20= 18=20 metre high.
 
You can find some photo's here:
 
73,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt 
 

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Download de gratis SPAMfighter vandaag nog! ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C82162.67D541C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC31-10747378620c9; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC23-10747378620c9; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLYp-0003On-RK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLYp-0003Oe-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLYm-0005Ae-KR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074AC3EA0D2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2523EA0E2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47378603.4030108@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:45:23 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <47377A3D.1010506@online.fr> <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> In-Reply-To: <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! 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Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4672/Sun Nov 4 12:38:42 2007 on mail-in-14.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 137-activity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C81F19.C13D1B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 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Ge LF.
2day copy any time ago on 137.7KHz in qrss3= -mode:=20 DJ6GT, PA3CPM, F6BWO, S57A, DK7SU.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C81F19.C13D1B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC22-1134737acf7130; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC35-1134737acf7130; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:31:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrO8p-0004EN-OH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrO8p-0004EE-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrO8n-0006a3-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:31:07 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13032DA4D8 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:30:38 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071112013038.7ca6d71c@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 Two crossband qsos on carnival sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:21:10 EST G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Well done Ha-Jo. > > From here in London, tonight is probably the best propagation I have > seen on the band. > > The 5mW beacon is visible on the GM4SLV shetland grabber for the > second night running. However, tonight the structure of the PSK31 > transmission is just visible for the first time. > > _Shetland grabber_ > (http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg) Hello LF, The conditions on MF are certainly improving, with lower QRN static levels. I've seen G0MRF's beacon several times recently, and have seen the PSK31 on the waterfall more than once. I will attempt to decode it one evening soon! Congratulations on the cross-band QSOs Ha-Jo. Hopefully the wind will drop soon here and I can repair the damage to my antenna suffered during some severe storms on Thursday (gusts to 93 mph / 150 kph) which did no more damage than snap one capacity wire! Then I hope to be QRV for cross-band QSOs. Cheers and 73 -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a67472b594923e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:07:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA047-a67472b594923e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:07:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InzzD-0005qW-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InzzC-0005qN-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inzz9-0004Z5-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A299408023 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4345C408023 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A749495B97 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1194023217.472b593135b72@imp.netikka.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:06:57 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> In-Reply-To: <000501c81d6e$b79b1060$0e00000a@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.5 .. who ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I heard GI3PDN tuning/testing (perhaps the dashes without dots) and calling=20= CQ on that QRG just a while ago. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD Quoting Graham : > Seeing a slow cw trace on 501.5 , but dots are 'missing ?? who's sending ? > > G .. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-a00473623b02f9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:33:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG032-a00473623b02f9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:33:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxxF-00068x-Bp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqxxE-00068o-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:24 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqxxB-0004tU-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:33:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DB24E5FD9 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kZWbrOWpewH for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38294E594B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:38:25 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:32:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c823e1$46912430$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.309,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] GI3PDN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C823E9.A8558C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I captured signal from GI3PDN on 501.525kHz. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C823E9.A8558C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I captured signal from GI3PDN on 501.525kHz. =

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ac3473a42fc1c7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:36:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac3473a42fc1c7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:36:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is6EA-0001sh-KL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is6EA-0001sY-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85] helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is6E5-00050N-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:34 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Is6E2-0004iF-04; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:35:26 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (rI-C-UZd8hBFRhOoFeiselvMTXTV-ODh2WCfiVfI6kyrvloTlncMLptTvCjmPmcZ27@[217.95.68.235]) by fwd31.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:35:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: Cc: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 14 Nov 2007 00:35 GMT Message-ID: <1Is6Dy-0uLNJo0@fwd31.t-online.de> X-ID: rI-C-UZd8hBFRhOoFeiselvMTXTV-ODh2WCfiVfI6kyrvloTlncMLptTvCjmPmcZ27 X-TOI-MSGID: cf8176af-7b45-4159-a38d-c68cc3d2f7d9 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: MF WE2XGR/2 and /6 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n schrieb: > Ha-Jo, > > Listen around 506.5 for WE2XGR/2 and 507 for WE2XGR/6. > WE2XGR/6 is running more than 1.2kW into a top loaded tower, big signal reports from VE7 to GI4. > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > Dear Warren, I have listened around 506,5 kHz and 507 kHz last night and this night until 00.10 UTC but heard nil, sri, just a beacon "Z" on 507,1 kHz. I guess I should have been located at the coast of western Europe to hear WE2XGR/2 and WE2XGR/6. Even on GM4SLV's grabber I have seen just a few dots on 507 kHz. But heard GI4PDE beaconing with interruptions around 23.52 UTC on 501,4 kHz, RST 579 with QSB. And at 00.23 UTC I heard G3KEV calling VE1ZZ on 502,6 kHz, RST 569 but also with deep QSB. Already around 16.00 UTC I heard G3KEV with good signal in QSO with GM4SLV, but at this time his signal has had a rather long QSB period. GM4SLV remained unheard, but I have got that he has repaired his MF aerial. Now, at 00.30 UTC, I go to bed. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de > > Dear all, > > > > this night, 12. November 2007 I had an xband qso with Peter, G3LDO. The > > contact started at > > 22.33 UTC; I gave him 449 and received 579 on 3533 kHz. Then Peter's > > signal fell into deep qsb, so I hoped for a comeback of his signal and > > told him I would wait. > > > > Meanwhile on 3533 I heard F2JB in Rennes working G3LDO. During this QSO > > Peter's signal came up again 559, and I could copy his QTH and locator > > which he sent to F2JB. > > > > After they had finished I called Peter again for final exchange and > > saying goodby. At the end at 22.54 UTC his signal again dropped and > > became almost unreadible. > > > > Until Thursday I hope to be listening every night around this time for > > further attempts on the 500 kHz band. > > > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b93472cc571cd; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:01:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD085-b93472cc571cd; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:01:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoO9l-00066q-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoO9i-00066h-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:38 +0000 Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.227] helo=smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoO9f-0007Zq-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 18100 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.177.53.244) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0000 Message-ID: <472CC418.6090104@w1tag.com> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:55:20 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with > a mode that noone else bothers about. Better yet, use spark, so the chaps with crystal sets aren't excluded. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.137]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-c2473c76422d0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB14-c2473c76422d0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:39:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ishhy-0008Fy-Sp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ishhy-0008Fp-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ishht-0008UV-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:49 +0000 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lAFGacRt019199 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000b01c827a5$af1b53f0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.256 Subject: LF: Re: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello Mal, I do hear it here as well, though it is not present all the time. There are rumours amongst local hams that it is audible over all Europe. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Middelburg, Netehrlands JO11tm -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 515 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA091-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmq-0000SK-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmp-0000SB-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxXml-0005SK-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQpH1Y0020ldTLk0501P00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JR1d1Y00E2Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=_fUlUN7SGtgEVv-ywGEA:9 a=RJkTXe3dtYupquXqCn8A:7 a=-_CuFaygpYsBooWEzjTP_h2APWEA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 Message-ID: <4BD649516CDF4CE18041D66405E9F97E@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: Cc: References: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:01:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Mal, Why not post the schematic on the Lowfer forum? http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php 73 Warren K2ORS ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: LF: Re: R: classs E > Hi Enrico > The cct diagram is too large for the reflector, so would have to go > direct. > It E pa is vy inter dependent on V/W/Q etc and pse refer to Tonne s/ware > V2.01 for design criteria. Mine is qrp for 500 and works fb and reliable. > No smoke etc hi > Pse listen for me on 502.5 khz and call me on 3533/7033 khz for a xband > QSO. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO9SH > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Enrico" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:52 PM > Subject: LF: R: classs E > > >> Hi Mal, >> can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an > electrical >> scheme? >> Thank you an Bye. >> >> IW4CXL >> Enrico >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal >> Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 >> A: rsgb >> Oggetto: LF: classs E >> >> >> Hi all >> I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for >> true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform > was >> almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an > almost >> perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not > make >> a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only > slightly >> better. >> Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 >> khz, >> so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the >> anamoly >> at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable >> capicator. >> I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed >> through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the > design >> voltage, but improved with a V increase. >> In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very >> robust. >> The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, >> indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the >> base of the inv L. >> I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E >> constructors. >> Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old >> ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an >> old marine tx. >> Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. >> 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.145]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC14-118472d8bc4180; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:07:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC310-118472d8bc4180; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:07:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IobRG-0005yu-KM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IobRG-0005yl-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IobRD-0003l1-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:06:37 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8539DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:06:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:06:28 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071104090628.09e6f19b@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.545,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 502.35 CQ G3XIZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I'm hearing a very weak signal from G3XIZ calling CQ on 502.35kHz at 0857UTC. RST perhaps 229, needing external tuneable pre-amp and 10Hz AF filter to pull out the callsign. Pretty good for daylight. No response to my replies though! Yesterday I had a short QSO with GI3PDN at around the same time. There is obviously some long range sky-wave around at this sort of time. -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9654730c7745f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:58:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654730c7745f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:58:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUZB-0000hY-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUZA-0000hP-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpUZ7-0000GP-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter78.comcast.net ([204.127.197.178]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20071106195756m1200gpri8e>; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:57:57 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter78.comcast.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:57:56 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb" Cc: "hamilton mal" Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:57:56 +0000 Message-Id: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: DX/VE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal, I spoke to Jack VE1ZZ about two weeks ago on 160 meters - he said that he heard an Irish station running .1W ERP (perhaps Finbar?) on 500kHz on 19 different occasions to that point. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "hamilton mal" > I received a dispatch from abroad that some UK stns are being heard in VE. > There are some VE/W stns listening for G stn acty and will work xband 3533 > and 7033 Kcs. A good time is aroundf midnight ie 0001 hrs gmt. > The mode is CW > De Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-11f474dcf1d242; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC47-11f474dcf1d242; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxTU7-0008HB-G2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxTU6-0008H2-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:14 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxTU2-0005Lh-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JKt91Y0071GhbT80505V00; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:03 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JLRy1Y0052Uxt080300000; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:26:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gotin1wS3JkA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=SnD-9OEuZw_F7A911NkA:9 a=VOAYEQjk2E7zSUtFKzPbxniinbYA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000f01c831c8$cd00efb0$7c7ba8c0@ACER>, <474D8A1A.4000009@yahoo.com> <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <474D94F0.20845.2187E0A@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:25:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137 Subject: LF: 137 kHz Pictures of the WD2XGJ Transmit loop and tuner Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hello the list, I have uploaded photos of the WD2XGJ transmit loop and antenna tuner to KC3OL's Lowfer Forum: http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aba472f00bc2b0; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:38:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba472f00bc2b0; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:38:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0He-0005lo-EJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0Hd-0005lf-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:21 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0Hb-0003o7-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:21 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96E9DA4D6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:36:05 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105113605.12393c51@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> References: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:04:59 -0000 "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > Hi John, LF, > > This is on the call sign search on the www.qrz.com web site :- > > G3BIK > E CHICKEN > 21 TOWNSEND CRESCENT KIRKHILL MORPETH > NORTHUMBERLAND NE61 2XP > UK > > I have not seen his signal yet. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Hello Gary, LF, Yes I'd found that on QRZ.COM (always my first port of call!) but no other details anywhere else. I recognized the G3BIK call from my formative years - I'm originally from the North East of England myself! I'll perhaps send him a QSL card direct as a SWL report. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b9d473a74ec123; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d473a74ec123; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:09:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Is9YD-0002Q4-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Is9YC-0002Pv-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:28 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Is9Y8-0006Ww-Qs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:08:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C90E4E5F3A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V+24TdAs9MYX for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED04E5F36 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:00 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:07:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c82673$f1632400$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: [500] WD2XSH_17 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8267C.5329FD00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I spent last day in installing my new receiving loop. It was not so easy, becouse it is 200 square meter large. But you can see the result on added captures. I received signal from WD2XSH/17 (distance is 6490km)! It is my firs reception of any station from USA on 500kHz. I am happy! GL and GM! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C8267C.5329FD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I spent last day in installing my new receiving lo= op. It was not so easy, becouse it is 200 square meter large. But you can see the resul= t on added captures.

I received signal from= =A0 WD2XSH/17 (distance is 6490km)!=A0 It is my fi= rs reception of=A0 any station from USA= on 500kHz. I am happy!

 

GL and GM!

 

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82005.F21ECFD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b0847405da3180; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:43:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b0847405da3180; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:43:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmIh-0002yD-EH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItmIg-0002y4-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:10 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItmIb-0002Tm-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 14698 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2007 15:43:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=boLI8lpFo8+PCFAsUv3bkWpfrnaVQVBCOiQwPK3LBDaZEfR9J1pENK68GPrKEjOjxPaaObwzXu9G5M2MGuO2HOt0RpSqQDTPUiekQlB5FW17Ojt02wPE3/HyVDhE75u0Par7KS8v5ZHmDN2bvpfaA9cNSwiP/VSDugfCJcUbnlg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.15.149 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 15:43:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hpNh_AwVM1k9rinAp03NybcKU2vr5PrEt2iuMQJfx_7d4ybg6cwBYI1fsgN3gN17rYGEz.Ae55TjpgETfOSr2RmGKT_K From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:43:29 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <00d201c829f4$fb81b580$46726a58@wgt01> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi, Gary. Copying your 22/23Hz RTTYsigs here also. The G0MRF beaon is very strong at this QTH, but you are 100% during the breaks in the G0MRF beacon. I'm using WinWarbler (freeware), which works fine but is a bit "wide open" and gets distracted by any other nearby transmissions. "G4WGT IO83QP TESTING", "JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG G4WGT G4WGT RYRYRYJ" etc,etc. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 18 November 2007 15:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test Chris, LF, Thank you for the report, keep watching. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McCarthy" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500 KHz RTTY test > Gary, > I have been hearing you for the last 45 minutes, but unable to resolve so > far. Your about S3. > Chris, G3XVL > > On 18/11/2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just begun testing on 503.600 KHz using RTTY, 22 bd, 23 Hz shift. >> >> It is possible that this slower speed will decode better at the narrow >> shift >> over greater distances. >> >> I will appreciate any reports. >> >> The software I am using is MMTTY. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b9b474ae0863e1; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:05:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD095-b9b474ae0863e1; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:04:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwfUh-0001bb-GZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwfUg-0001bS-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwfUd-0005VE-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.101]) by hpsmtp-eml11.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:03:17 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:02:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:02:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2007 15:02:41.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[64239150:01C8303D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2611.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C83045.C2F6F3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj 0:35z henny pa3cpm jo22mb 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C83045.C2F6F3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 9f1dd59866ac920e94f5150ab1c16ac01a238acc8405a5b0b269f809b1f3069998e4ecb6c1a57342350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.41.23.54 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thank you, I will take a look. de kd4wov -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Johan H. Bodin Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 06:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E These articles have the information you need to design and tune a class E amplifier: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/010102qex009.pdf http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~culler/AIIT/papers/radio/Sokal%20AACD5-poweramps .pdf This program can be used to find the initial values for impedances and components: http://tonnesoftware.com/classe.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b584739cbe235; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:08:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD012-b584739cbe235; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:08:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IryIG-0000bQ-2X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IryIF-0000bH-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:15 +0000 Received: from mx4.mun.ca ([134.153.232.56] helo=ella.ucs.mun.ca) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IryHG-0000Va-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:15 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by ella.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lADG5QPG015864 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:26 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lADG5QbL029457 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:26 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lADG5PAg029892; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:25 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:35:25 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <47396399.7060204@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <47396399.7060204@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.56 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi J-P. Thanks for the report. 73 Joe On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3c472cc08a28; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:40:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c472cc08a28; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:40:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoNuU-0005xM-GW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoNuT-0005xD-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:53 +0000 Received: from smtpout0150.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.150] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoNuP-0002TS-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:39:53 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.20) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E00268D1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:39:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81e48$e7e8ee60$14e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <00bd01c81e2c$b6825c10$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:36:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Try CW which is the norm on this band, lots of QSO'S within the UK and xband DX galore, at least as far as SV/YU and 9H1. Most UK stns active on CW are being heard in those places. All class A UK radio amateurs have passed the code test, so why bother with a mode that noone else bothers about. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: LF: 500 KHz test > Hi All, > > By way of a change I am running beacon in mode Ascii-7, 45 Bd, 23 Hz shift. > > Frequency - 503.600 KHz 100mW ERP. > > Getting a good trace on Birmingham & Shetland grabbers. > > Reports welcome. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a07474486903db; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG041-a07474486903db; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvDK-0006OG-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuvDK-0006O7-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:22 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuvDG-0005QG-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:21 +0000 X-Trace: 638063907-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.95.228 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJ4UREdYal/k/2dsb2JhbACRAQ Received: from 88-106-95-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.95.228]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Nov 2007 19:26:05 +0000 Message-ID: <14e501c82c74$5c5a7640$e45f6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071121-0, 21/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Rapido Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi All, A little while ago it was mentioned on here that Rapido from Rik ON7YD could be used for automatic downloading of grabbers. I decided to give it a try whilst running my test transmission today but although I set it for automatic download at 5 min intervals it will only download at the moment I click the "Start Download" button & no further downloads follow. Has anyone any clues ?? 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9d7473b9c813d0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7473b9c813d0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:10:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsTEP-0005gx-QS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsTEP-0005go-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsTEJ-0007eP-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCD131C00085 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:09:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.162]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6E4E81C00081 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:09:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071115010908451.6E4E81C00081@mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001701c82724$21843ec0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:08:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: EER Transmitter project , V2 pdf file upload , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As promised, =20 Jim has uploaded a V2 of his EER 'project' , the PDF file is located at the= link below and my be down loaded from the news group.=20 =20 The group is totally open and my prove a useful forum, should constructional= projects follow its publication , lines of discussion, file up loads and t= he addition of pages , may be freely added and prove useful in the dissemin= ation of information and practical solutions to encountered 'problems'. =20 =20 =20 =20 Tnx=20 =20 Graham=20 =20 G0NBD=20 Nov 12 2007 by Jim_M0BMU =20 =20 Dear 500kHz group, I have recently uploaded EER_Transverter_v2.pdf to this site, which describes the prototype system. Any comments welcome. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU=20 http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/EER_Transverter_v2.pdf?gda=3DFpsNtkcAAA= Cku8ip98KV-SChsIe2TxpAEW93t2O0tUj7-uNlBEXjW2G1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDT1pV1Og9oeqw= S6db_U_lgaw8OU8Ap4Nqh177si8htneQ ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As promised,

 

Jim has uploaded a V2 of his=20 EER  'project' , the PDF file is located at the link below and my be do= wn=20 loaded from the news group.

 

The group is totally open and my=20 prove a useful forum, should constructional projects follow its publication=20 ,  lines of discussion, file u= p=20 loads and the addition of pages , may be freely added and  prove useful in the dissemination of=20 information and practical solutions to&nbs= p;=20 encountered =91problems=92.

 

 

  

 

Tnx

 

Graham

 

G0NBD =

 
 
Nov 12 2007 by Jim_M0BMU
Dear 500kHz group,
I have recently uploaded=20 EER_Transverter_v2.pdf to this site, which
describes the prototype=20 system. Any comments welcome.
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de=20 M0BMU
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C82724.173033C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a324744020719d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:02:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a324744020719d; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-000490-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumOU-00048r-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0163.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.163] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumOQ-0001HQ-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:18 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003E57E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:08 +0000 X-SpamScore: 30 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 30,2,0,982ccae85b97e822,abc867c618cd1129,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:946:960:966:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1535:1543:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2110:2194:2196:2198:2199:2200:2201:2379:2393:2540:2551:2553:2559:2562:2693:2729:2828:2892:2916:3027:3294:3354:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4225:4250:4385:4648:5007:6119: 6248:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: (100%) BODY: contains "rx"; Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Its the way you "TELL THEM" john. Have you heard the one about the " WHINGING POME" G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: LF: Cross-band etiquette > Hello LF, > > It is normal, polite amateur practice to a) listen for a few minutes and > b) send a signal such as QRL? when selecting an operating frequency. > > On 500kHz itself this is rarely a problem, as band occupancy is > generally low. This doesn't mean it is never an issue, even on > 500, though. > > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between > 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. > > A 500kHz station (no names, no pack drill) was heard calling "CQ QSX > 3533/7033" on another 500 frequency (the beauty of having 2 receivers on > 500) and then, without checking if 3533 was in use.... no "QRL?" or > other courtesy was given..... he started calling on 3533 "CQ QSX > 502"... and then proceeded to alternate between the 2 bands until he > got his desired cross-band QSO. Why he calls on 80m "QSX 502" is > a mystery to me ...surely he isn't expecting a "reverse cross-band QSO" > with an existing 500 NoV holder? Why not do it all on 500? > > > > The QSO already underway was swiftly and politely abandoned, both on 500 > and 3533 to make way, without any fuss and in a way that was perhaps > unnoticed to the station concerned. > > Sadly this isn't the first time I've observed such behaviour. > > Occasionally a non-MF aware station will call on 3533, not knowing that > it's being monitored for cross-band replies, and it's perhaps > excusable - not everyone knows of, or is interested in, MF. Even if > they call "QRL? it might not be possible to reply to them. Many of us > have "RX only" setups for the 80m side. In this instance the correct > thing for us is to move our 80m RX frequency and announce it in our CQ > calls. > > > I find it disappointing however that active MF stations seem to blindly > assume that 3533 is free for their use and don't first a) check 500 for > obvious cross-band activity away from their own 500 frequency nor > b) check 3533 itself. A quick tune round 500 would have quickly made it > obvious that a cross-band QSO was underway. > > If 3533 is in use they are free to find another nearby frequency and > announce it in their calls, surely? I've done this many times and still > had successful contacts. There's nothing magic in 3533 itself. > > > I see regular complaints here decrying the poor operating abilities of > the current "non-CW" generation, mainly from one source. > > I suggest we all need to check our methods and motives. > > For some stations the driving force seems to be "DX DX DX" and first > sniff of an new QSO, in-band or cross-band, and out come all the shoddy > practices of general HF operation - calling without listening, ignoring > other QSOs underway, assuming ownership of certain frequencies. > > It's bad manners and poor operating. > > 500 isn't a "DX at all costs" band - it's an experimental allocation > where the passing of information and observing of signal strengths and > propagation conditions should be more important than a "569 QRU 73" > QSO just to get another new country in the log. > > Just sticking to single 500kHz and 80m frequencies and blindly calling > "CQ" regardless of what is already happening on the band(s) is simply > indicative of poor operating ability. > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-944473cc4731cc; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-944473cc4731cc; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ismvo-0000Na-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ismvn-0000NR-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:27 +0000 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ismvl-0000qG-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:27 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so552715nfb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8AhTyGbOalvwdR1iT8MsueCMT9BDvJKuf1MJ4uvBdR8=; b=rCROJGxzwJVcvoEm+MrZS7kmwwiKxcYhqktdSlIg8uMjdBlGk0dUhV9edBeseLI6U7tGo5j2OHJtPVU73b36WaGyVMGVsT22VDmlzBKHmN8eJPLJp9794X2uJCWUtoO12UqUYb/xHzIxEvXCTeRHkmwTuvbpcLgoWvG3YYNHG3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o3qYFeV8Dgj9sa+vsnIkkhTYH3fBgPxLGrFc4BYS5rbZ3WB42Wd0PJqciPUjWxTXM77LTpKGsdW+L5ljXUv0S3vLqcnKy8V7Wiu3CL+9DgjsiW/pyS6gGk39q6fImGeWIPjX5+h0hzPAZX2HMnVgPNtFu1IEDvNwMCbneYrkE+M= Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr1047498fga.1195164684164; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.97.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaadcb80711151411m551cc7b7i7424f2b1e95c5f9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:11:24 +0000 From: "Chris McCarthy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00df01c82775$b85a6d50$4bd0fc3e@g3kev> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: qrm 3.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB) Chris, G3XVL On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal wrote: > > Hi all > Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all > the > time, and vy strong at times. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > ------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Mal, it spreads from 3528-3537KHz here in Ipswich (JO02NB)

Chris, G3XVL

On 15/11/2007, hamilton mal < g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
Hi all
Can anyone else hear the qrm around 3533 khz, its broadband chirping all the
time, and vy strong at times.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



------=_Part_6933_32468625.1195164684141-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-8e4474366ff370; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:00:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e4474366ff370; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:00:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuc4Z-0002ut-Dt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iuc4Z-0002uk-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iuc4X-0005Wi-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:00:03 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cd6.1d34c275 (29679) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:59:46 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195599586" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? -------------------------------1195599586 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 20/11/2007 22:53:56 GMT Standard Time, gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes: Er....have I missed something...? ------------------------- Of course you have!! I think the appropriate reference started something like..... "Theirs was not to reason why....":-) -------------------------------1195599586 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 20/11/2007 22:53:56 GMT Standard Time,=20 gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
Er....have I missed something...?
-------------------------
Of course you have!!
 
I think the appropriate reference started something=20 like.....
 
"Theirs was not to reason why....":-)
-------------------------------1195599586-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b414738d665246; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:40:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC095-b414738d665246; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:40:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhwm-0006Kk-Lg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irhwl-0006KW-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:59 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irhwg-0000Qj-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:59 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071112223936m15009thk5e>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:47 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:34 +0000 Message-Id: <111220072239.649.4738D626000403D00000028922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Extended Grabber range X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, What is the URL for the grabber? Is it set for cw or QRSS? Thanks, -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV > Hello LF > > With the current good conditions for transatlantic signals I've > extended the frequency coverage of the grabber. It now covers from 501 > to 508kHz. The AR7030 has a 9.5kHz IF filter which seems to work nicely. > The DI beacon area around 505 is rather crowded and our part of the > spectrum is squashed into a smaller space but there's a chance now to > view the W beacons around 505-508. > > I can still see David G0MRF's beacon on 503.7. > > Cheers, > > John > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB24-eb472f099b12d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:16:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB55-eb472f099b12d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:16:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0sM-0006cX-AP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip0sL-0006cO-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:17 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip0sJ-0004n8-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:16:17 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC4DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:15:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:13:59 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105121359.09bfb671@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> References: <007301c81fa0$aabd9a00$65ebfc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:39:54 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Tnx to all for the information, but some of the figures do not work > out. How are the % figures measured. > One simple method is to calculate the DC input PWR in watts (I x V) > then using an RF current meter calculate the PWR out (Isq x R) let R > be the norm 50 ohm D/load. Compare the two figures and calculate the > Eff % 73 de Mal/G3KEV >=20 >=20 >=20 Again...with my TX At 50W output :- Dc supply =3D 18.7v at 3.4A Efficiency =3D 78% The math's is trivial..... 18.7V x 3.4A =3D 63.58W DC input 50W RF output (as measured on a homebrew power meter calibrated against a =C2=A320,000 R&S Spectrum analyser and precision 40dB power attenuator) Efficiency =3D Power Out / Power In=20 50 / 63.58 =3D 0.786 Hence 78.6% efficient. Of course if you can't accurately measure any of the necessary quantities then the end result will be meaningless. Measuring RF output using an RF ammeter and 50 ohm load is all well and good...but...how accurate is your RF ammeter? How accurate is the 50 ohms. How is the 50 ohms measured... at DC? Is it the same at RF?=20 With a good Class-E amp and 90% efficiency it only takes one of your measurements to be out by a few percent to make the efficiency calculated to be really way out. Say (plucked out of thin air example):- DC input (most accurately measured parameters?) 13.8V at 5.3A =3D 73.14W RF output as measured by your RF ammeter/50 ohm load 1.17A in 50 ohms =3D 68.4W Efficiency =3D 93.6% If your RF ammeter reads 5% high... I =3D 1.23A in 50 ohms =3D 75W Out Efficiency =3D 103% Contact the Nobel Prize Committee... you've invented the prepetual motion machine..... If your 50 ohm load is really 49 ohms however... 1.17A in 49 ohms =3D 67W Efficiency =3D 91.7% Don't assume there's some black magic mumbo-jumbo Emperor's New Clothes syndrome with MOSFET amps just because it appears that you can't tie down a reliable efficiency figure. Little errors make big differences. The important thing is that they work, don't get hot and can produce serious power for little engineering. Try getting a 2N3055 to produce 150W on 500kHz. Cheers, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8b047440a673c8; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:37:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b047440a673c8; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:37:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IumxH-0004dH-E4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IumxH-0004d8-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IumxD-0004Mt-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:14 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DD3DA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:32:59 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121103259.2859552f@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> <003201c82c25$6f6d3820$16e4fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.157 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:36 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Have you heard the one about the " > WHINGING POME" pome (pm) n. A fleshy fruit, such as an apple, pear, or quince, having several seed chambers and an outer fleshy part largely derived from the hypanthium. Fruity! John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-198473f63917d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:56:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB48-198473f63917d; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:56:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVeM-000667-74 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVeL-00065y-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:25 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVeI-0000Wb-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:25 +0000 X-Trace: 630067668-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIzxPkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: <00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you can change that parameter so no problem. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. >> > > > How much difference would there be between 45 and 45.45Bd? > > I was intially set at 45.45Bd... > > Will try again at 45 > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fe472cd874149; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:22:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe472cd874149; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:22:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPVN-0007JL-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPVM-0007JC-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPVI-0000d5-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:22:04 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071103202134.EHIK26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:21:34 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.15.231.232]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071103202134.QVFF17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:21:34 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:21:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472CD83E.11360.2D42337@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Port problem fixed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : I have now solved the parallel port problem reported earlier. I tried a suggestion from Alan, G3NYK, (thanks Alan) but that didn't fix it. In the end I deleted all of the programs that were on the computer when I got it (secondhand), and the relevant pin sits at 0V all the time except when I am keying. I suspect one of the programs was periodically checking the port. de Mike, G3XDV ============ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-8d0472bb74f4e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:48:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d0472bb74f4e; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:48:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6FT-0008OH-DJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6FR-0008O8-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:21 +0000 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io6FO-0000fo-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:48:21 +0000 Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([64.180.181.86]) by priv-edtnes73.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071102234815.MEEK16471.priv-edtnes73.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:48:15 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (d64-180-181-86.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.181.86]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id E5HN3KKEQX for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:48:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <472BB73F.7000909@telus.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:48:15 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> In-Reply-To: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The Canadian proposal was based on 1W EIRP according to Jim, VE3IQ one of major driving forces behind it. i May even have an email around here somewhere explaining the issue from many years back... I think they may have intended to ask for 1W EIRP and start off by asking for 1W ERP, you know the old ask for more and have what you want as a concession... 73 Scott VE7TIL Steve McDonald wrote: >> On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 >> dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a >> step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this >> allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more >> restrictive EIRP, right? >> > > This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it > this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of > reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian > LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, > which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned > about the difference. > > At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, > considering most normal backyard LF antennas. > > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-90b4733778738e; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:55:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD063-90b4733778738e; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:54:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqELq-0003YV-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqELo-0003YM-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqELj-0005Z2-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:42 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071108205119m14004khl3e>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:51:30 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:18 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Andy Talbot" Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:51:18 +0000 Message-Id: <110820072051.13860.473376C6000538830000362422064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Andy, There's info on submarine transmissions on the vlf.it web site: http://www.vlf.it/submarine/sbmarine.html The U.S. closed down its ELF facility in Clam Lake Wisconsin in 2004. It's interesting to note that it took 3 Megawatts to achieve an ERP of 8 watts! Good write up at: http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil/UploadedFiles/fs_clam_lake_elf2003.pdf -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" > Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. > The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at > 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would > have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the > trace. > > Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine > transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website > somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from > a Russian transmitter. > > Andy G4JNT > > > > On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > > (the latter with radio direction finding). > > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > > the E-field spectrogram. > > > > Cheers, > > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.135]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-18e473779b62cf; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:53:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB38-18e473779b62cf; 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Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1194817912.47377978e7d92@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:51:52 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1Ir1FM-0KYojY0@fwd34.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 501.5kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF 20071111 21.48UTC: Heard G3LDO calling CQ on 501.5kHz Q3 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC44-6e9473e4c28284; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:04:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC63-6e9473e4c28284; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:04:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItCzt-0003Iz-Sa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItCzt-0003Iq-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItCzp-0007VN-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:25 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DdSs1Y0071GXsuc0A01v00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:17 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id De1F1Y0031pKLLP0800000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=65lhGVEWBcmW6XmWf-kA:9 a=z0O1nfVmXXZPnuoppJJqpkl2bRUA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <002c01c828bd$bb3e2040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:01:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.286 Subject: LF: 2nd QSO G14DPE / WE2XGR/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Just completed another QSO with Finbar. This one lasted about 15 minutes and call signs, two sets of signal reports (to report changing conditions), outdoor temperatures and other bits of information were successfully exchanged. There was less QRN at XGR/2 than Tuesday night making copy on this end somewhat easier...although signals were still very weak. Finbar appeared to have very good copy. There was fairly rapid (about 10 second) QSB that would take signals into the noise but in short order they popped back up again. This QSO happened to take place at the same time as Tuesday night's QSO (not planned that way), although Finbar reported hearing XGR/2 in beacon mode at least a half hour earlier (0030Z). More study of this path should prove interesting now that we know Tuesday night's QSO wasn't a one time occurance. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-a354731e635273; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:22:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG097-a354731e635273; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:22:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipneb-0005c7-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ipnea-0005by-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:20 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpneX-0006IW-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:21:20 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2007 16:21:11 -0000 Received: from p54857D7D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.125.125] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2007 17:21:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/I368FgiPIa6MwRL0Vb6HJKcvDy5I5f3D+0Gaoup 7PJHjL6bqhWaQQ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:21:08 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <704645404.20071107172108@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018 Subject: LF: 137 kHz 6/7 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Despite the high noise level copied WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS on 137kHz last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC24-1ca4735fb923a7; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:42:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC38-1ca4735fb923a7; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:42:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqvHS-0005JK-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqvHS-0005JB-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from outmailhost.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.242] helo=ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqvHO-0004JT-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from PC2 (81.35.163.245) by ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 47318255000B884A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c823c9$3abad2e0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:40:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.001,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Strong signals from Mal calling on 502.5kHz for xband contacts, unfortunatel= y not ready my hf antenna yet. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
Strong signals from Mal calling on 502.5kHz= for=20 xband contacts, unfortunately not ready my hf antenna yet.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C823D1.9C0CCA00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-a8a47459b2e36b; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a47459b2e36b; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDdp-0001qR-5v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvDdo-0001qI-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:56 +0000 Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvDdk-0003e1-CO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:56 +0000 Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FpXY1Y0030b6N640A04w00; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:47 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fr6h1Y0082Uxt080800000; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:06:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gXt70QrKFkgA:10 a=hignZnnQs1Vf0ahBKu8A:9 a=HnyQb9VYAZCtPv-Qa9uAUB8eKZAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=ueRglchP_ixMHA-fmlsA:9 a=OGbkLqpqnFVYp2Wa9iIA:7 a=4aLXv5Bt7cC7D80y66VpYnDOXyQA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <98AF6F271D4F494B8AD726F53A90E659@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <001601c82d0c$c2529a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:06:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the reports and captures of my short transm= ission! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj2211.jpg capture xgj henny pa3cpm 73s .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Henny and Jean-Pierre for the report= s and=20 captures of my short transmission!
 
----- Original Message -----
henny van elst=20=
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capture xgj
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------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C82CEF.5A0C2390-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-ab3474359fa332; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab3474359fa332; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCM-0002bV-F2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IubCL-0002bM-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:01 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.148] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IubCI-00028h-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:01 +0000 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E003CD075 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:50 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,6e787b74756f832b,cb65441a52534549,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:600:601:945:960:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2377:2379:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2689:2693:2828:3027:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6119:7576,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,Do mainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m43-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.43]) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000201c82bc1$3c442300$2be4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> <47430398.8000702@telia.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.421 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Johan Tnx for your observations and info on class E. >From what you say there is no real point in having two class E pa's connected in series, just use a single ended pa and choose the components to suit the power output required. The second harmonic and all other harmonics can be suppressed with a LPF. My single ended pa is very clean and symetrical sine wave without any LPF although I have one in line, because I had already built it and use it. I was surprised that there were no odd harmonics detectable on the output rf signal considering all the sq wave in the pa driver etc. There has been very little response from anyone else about class E amp experiences, I expect they have never heard about this type of amplifier, or do not use them. I expect most are using class A,AB or C on 137 and 500 khz. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS E > Mal, > > for proper class E operation, the drain waveform must be allowed to be > non-symmetrical so you cannot just use a center tapped output transformer. In > other words, there must be no "hard coupling" between the drains in a class E > push-pull amplifier. One way is to design two identical class E amplifiers, each > designed for an output power P into the load R. Note: Each amplifier must have > its own DC feeding choke - no center tapped stuff here! Then feed these two > amplifiers with push-pull drive (180 degrees phase shift) and connect the > primary winding of an output transformer between the outputs of the two > amplifiers. The output transformer should be designed so that 2*R will be "seen" > when "looking" into the primary. The total output power will be 2*P. With > sufficient Q in the series tanks (C2, L), the output current will be almost > sinusoidal, as in the single ended case, so the two halves of the amplifier will > not "know" that they are actually operating in push-pull. Since the two series > resonant tanks of the two amplifiers and the output transformer primary will all > be connected in series, you can simplify the circuit by using a single resonant > tank with twice the L and half the C. This may look assymetrical but it gives > exactly the same result (a few pF stray C can be neglected at these low > frequencies...). One can say that this is simply two class E amplifiers > connected in series. However, the even harmonic cancelling property of push-pull > is still there because of circuit (and drive) symmetry. > > I have tried this configuration, for example on 160m QRP, and it seems to work > very well. > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > > hamilton mal skrev: > > Hi all > > Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe > > someone has a push pull design. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b24472979cf298; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:01:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC058-b24472979cf298; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:01:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InU2O-0007JK-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InU2N-0007JB-Pv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:19 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InU2J-0007tv-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 88315 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.85.26 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:00:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OlweC1gVM1k5LWGFQAcYNg7ohAiFzjAZ8Pz_Ij.ThRrkTAi0ieNSBL3dI03pr8HhjD1_cDEeUui8F65AcWy2oztR0bTWPnz3la8PmgvbkhAUvhs0 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:00:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 31 Oct 2007 at 22:40, Michael Probert wrote: > Thanks for report Jose. > > Static was terrible here but nice to know we are making it into EA. > > Hope to work you cross band > > Mike GW4HXO > _____ > > Hello all, > > Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN. > Your static was obviously why you wre having difficulty trying to QSO G3UNT Mike. I was listening at the time, both excellent 589ish signals and way above my noise level and I heard you both repeatedly call each other. At one time I heard Brian give you (if I remember) something like 439. What I find strange is how I clearly copy stations far better than many other people. Maybe it is my vertical, with no horizontal top section, and it picks up less local QRN and more signals, or maybe it is down to the Datong UC1 and the K2 it is feeding. Be what it may, most people are absolutely clear copy (though GI3PDN was somewhat weaker last night in the short time I heard Ray). But I was really struggling to hear some of the 80m stations on the other side of the QSOs, wierd.... So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move! As to the legality of crossband, we are quite definitely normal amateur stations (with special permit to allow us to transmit on 500k). I see no problem with other countries working us crossband, just like we used to do years ago between 6m and 10m before we got that band. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b0c472a1bd1192; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:33:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC028-b0c472a1bd1192; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:32:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IneqO-0000q6-NO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IneqO-0000px-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IneqK-0008NC-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:40 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAB9DA4D8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:32:29 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.039,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=MP_mFnEWanLNipV7iH4LVHLfyN X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --MP_mFnEWanLNipV7iH4LVHLfyN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz > De G3KEV > It's back again! I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between the "PAT"? 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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello John, LF! Yes, I can see and listen these dots on 503.600kHz. There is heavy QRN this evening, as you can see on the picture, but these dots are noticeable. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG ***************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:54 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 503.6 dots... Hello LF, I've been seeing/hearing sequences of 5 long dots (or are they dashes?) on 503.6 on and off all night. Difficult to know if there's been any ID on them, but not heard any on the odd occasion I've listenened by ear. Anyone else also hearing/seeing them? 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2007 02:13:04 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071118011304656.0FE2A1C00084@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <005e01c82980$3299ebc0$0e00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> <002401c82961$436f6700$0e00000a@AGB> <00bb01c82962$6e3303b0$46726a58@wgt01> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:13:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.083 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok Gary, Well the rx situatiuon is a little 'odd' the Ra1778 is the last of the non cpu contolled rx's made by racal and the ra6790gm is about as good as it got with the cpu controlled set-up Must be over 15 years differance in the ages , but the 1778 has proved to be quieter, to the point of resolving signals that the other will not .....I had read that it was 'tweaked' compared with the 1772 The only thing is , the front end in the 6790 dose not suffer from cross mod , caused by the local MW station.. but with a line filter , the 1778 is actually comming out on top ... quaint ? G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: What mode 503.6? > Hi graham, LF, > > I just posted reply when your mail came thro' Thanks. > > I presume that is a good sign that the RA1778 is quieter meaning Rx noise > level ?? better SNR. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:31 PM > Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > > >> Hi John, >> >> Thats Gary , g4wgt , running 45.45 baud rtty , 23 Hz shift , you need >> select 23 hz shift rtty in multi psk ... or mode 23 hz in mmtty , he is >> dead center on 503.6 >> >> G .... >> >> Intresting night , trying out my RA1778 , for the first time on data , >> looks to be quieter than the RA6790GM .... not quite what I expected ! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" >> To: "rsgb" >> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM >> Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? >> >> >>> Hello LF, >>> I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal >>> PSK31 >>> >>> What mode is it? >>> >>> -- >>> John GM4SLV >>> IP90gg >>> Clousta, Shetland >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: >>> 11/16/2007 22:58 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 22:58 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-cc473d7980257; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:05:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB24-cc473d7980257; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:05:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Isyzv-0001vV-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Isyzt-0001vM-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:29 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Isyzp-0006JM-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:27 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FD8DA4D6 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:00:35 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071116110035.30568ba8@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82836$767c1ed0$30e8fc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF CONDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:52:19 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Condx on both 600 and 160m have been poor this past few days, nothing > hrd from W/VE last night/early this morning at this qth. It seems the > vy favourable condx on the 12/13/14 th have fizzled out Hello Mal and LF group, I was going to post something about the conditions on Tuesday evening (13th into 14th Nov) so Mal's post is an appropriate place to do it. I understand that some excellent T/A conditions were experienced that night, with Finbar working a WE2 station and I believe Mal himself may have worked VE1ZZ also. I had to go to work for a night shift so missed the late night excitement. Closer to home, earlier in the evening, Finbar and I had a long QSO in which we repeated a previous QRP experiment (the one reported in this month's RadCom). This time Finbar was able to reduce TX power in stages down through 5W, 2.5W, 1W, 500mW, 200mW, 100mW, 50mW, 20mW and finally 10mW. At each step I could read his CW by ear and at several of them he sent a 4-figure number for me to verify. At the final level of 10mW (TX power!!) I took a few minutes, riding the QSB and piecing together fragments of CW from the noise, but finally got the 4 numbers correctly. This is a fantastic "miles per watt" even at 10mW. Imagine what the "miles per watts ERP" might be? Earlier in the QSO I'd had to break off for a few minutes and left my audio recorder running. I listened back to the file yesterday while driving and heard Dave G3YMC call Finbar! This is the first time I've heard Dave's 5mW ERP and it was readable by ear! Finbar failed to hear Dave's call though, which I'm sure is a disappointment to him, and to Dave. I don't know if this was a fleeting opening as no more was heard from Dave later in the evening. The conditions were superb, but it's only in hindsight that this becomes apparent, as they subside back to "normal" for a few days. Well done everyone concerned and let's hope for more. John GM4SLV Clousta, Shetland IP90gg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b09472f94017c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:07:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC025-b09472f94017c; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:06:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpA5n-0000ru-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpA5m-0000rl-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:46 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpA5j-0004jm-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:06:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 86016 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 21:55:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Ct3WrUvVtBXjhHYf/fcHGo5pgdrK1mfm1DJ7iAB48Pc7dv9enqvOZROTe+8fNMzSUX8vDq13FgimlTIJHVQ0CorPEfV6Q4YaL7+Fzlh71RpJZnTInZeddy/gGC0f2MNifI7kQKcFw7BLX++lI5B9WPF1psHNSZVe4u+JaKufe6E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.4.83 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 21:55:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cjXniIsVM1k7TebmAYYQBV76yQJA_aa1DlJVSoaU.b5phAOFR6hJU6pDOvVzjsTDIm8DPHZyFw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.22/1111]); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:53:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00e601c81ff6$59394340$53047ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:53:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: -604: (null data) DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear LF Group, I have sent the file to all those who have requested it so far - if it doesn't turn up with you very soon, I may have missed you, so please let me know. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b214733588dcd; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:42:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214733588dcd; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:42:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqCG0-0002jI-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqCFx-0002j9-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:33 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqCFt-0004Yk-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:37:32 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqCFp-0004MW-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:25 +0100 Received: from f054161088.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.161.88]:1127 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1IqCFp-0000Lw-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:25 +0100 Message-ID: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:37:29 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Greetings all, Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field (the latter with radio direction finding). It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in the E-field spectrogram. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-c9473f5ed32a3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:36:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB21-c9473f5ed32a3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:36:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVKq-0005bC-27 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVKp-0005b2-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:15 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVKm-0003mZ-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:15 +0000 X-Trace: 647271480-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CABbtPkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.198 Subject: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, I am testing in narrow shift RTTY, 45bd, 23Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: "rsgb" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? > Hello LF, > I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal > PSK31 > > What mode is it? > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a22472ce138d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:59:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a22472ce138d; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:59:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoQ5E-0007vs-Am for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoQ5D-0007vj-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:07 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoQ59-0004ph-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:59:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 74036 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 20:58:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lN0flW+vicigKk/MIgNhXzIilhNPDDX/liknxKNo/IlhJ5dqXnklIDuhAyS+eGl4YHTC/e0Q2batz/qD/PXQ/WRZ2ehcG0s9tCdqhmUXcEHN+i+XVT25p+EZhY7j/AADZ/nN3/zCnpRXPplS4MxB9E7pkn4oLDSMBT6X3qQVLok= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.16.127 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 20:58:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: S7I9HvUVM1n.n6YWQNj8RkIa4ztB69F4sQCbBYwIUctaMNB6g6BC30Jo2vYtmmmdXvogTm2TUg-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.19/1106]); Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:57:20 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c81e5c$2006cc00$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <006c01c81e56$64f24980$0e00000a@AGB> <003b01c81e58$20a1f760$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <01a701c81e5a$f973e0b0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:57:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.134 Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Gary, LF Group, Yes - quite consistent sigs now, I reckon I am copying your "quick brown fox" message with only a few errors on about 60% of the transmissions - It looks like a QSO would be practical at the moment, although the noise level seems lower than usual tonight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB44-1a3472f73eec4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB59-1a3472f73eec4; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:50:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7xL-0006RB-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7xK-0006R2-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:54 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7xH-0001dP-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:49:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 90149 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 19:22:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vZaAffVqulcU15Mbk3UQr+mbOd268NukNb5hQGtwb6DmEMl4Z8bx4GK0p4fF5w2ea2h26pWqz2QC86QFVxDMouJobmRIAYnMa8BQ8SziND5A3nUCAS64zPBSENfDGzvmRm8LMtDhumjYR1zgQ2v9iCC1SPbeXqacEhEUh85AkVA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.50.9 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 19:22:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: eGjpj2UVM1kqY2FuBWjwtTB1KWPCxRKAifEIl6FuCMDGJHviL72cHaGiqiz0BIU4etMpEfFtkHCtWNIgZ7TSsNnvK4IK Message-ID: <008e01c81fe1$40c64f20$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:11:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim I would like to add it to your other articles on my web site if you are in agreement? That is when I get my FTP program sorted out again ! Cheers Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9b4472dc2b04a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:01:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b4472dc2b04a; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:01:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof6Y-0007uI-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof6X-0007u8-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:29 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iof6U-0002km-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:01:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 33506 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 13:01:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=laHDmFAkZwkvCcwCL/K0SwZ6N+Cze19+MUGqf7d1V9hPgIsh7PJqpBY/YGnyucvkEi6K7bxlNLtCYphgpV7+rypVAT7xpI2eBna9++Lan3jRNe2pMoNfuuZ5K7AsH26wU1/UwDzhwaHRyTBS3gifpZZMDrIpkKo5OqwkKFeY+00= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.42.223 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 13:00:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1B_OHLMVM1lAgzUMW1tgwTGqzf7YMhaE2XmlV74GJlAUE9Eo4rsl0zoMuV.8iF2B8jldw_nBjA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.20/1108]); Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:59:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ee2$84728900$df2a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:59:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Mal, LF Group, > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has > anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard > to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > Certainly you should be getting better than 80% for a reasonable class D or E design at LF or MF. I find about 90% is typical for a "good" design - it is actually quite hard to get an accurate figure due to the small difference between DC input and RF output powers. In my designs I have used silver-mica or polypropylene capacitors, which have very low losses at these frequencies. For inductors, I have used air-wound coils and Micrometals -2 mix iron-dust toroid cores - the rule here is if doesen't get excessively hot with the key down, the power loss is probably ok! For most class D and E designs, which have quite low loaded-Q tank circuits (<5, say) an inductor Q of 100 or more is probably adequate and fairly easy to achieve. If you want to use a high loaded-Q tank circuit, it might be another story... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA064-a6e472b9646252; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA056-a6e472b9646252; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:27:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io42y-0007MN-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io42y-0007ME-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([208.181.178.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io42u-0008G8-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:27:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC41EF89E7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: - Received: from mail2.imagen.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.imagen.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id pWEm7iJ-zI9x for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p1i5f0 (gi104.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.109]) by mail2.imagen.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id E43A81EF89E0 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000f01c81d97$129e71a0$6d11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <472B9072.4090800@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:26:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz band - WRC07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > On the face of it, a transmitting setup running 1 watt EIRP will be 2.1 > dB weaker than 1 watt ERP based on a dipole in free space. That's not a > step forward. Presumably, countries presently defining power in this > allocation based on dipole-ERP will have to switch to the more > restrictive EIRP, right? This is unfortunate and I really wonder why they would seek to define it this manner. It seems to me that simple "ERP" is a much more valid term of reference to use for this application. Interestingly, some of our Canadian LF experimental licences were issued for 1 W ERP, while others for 1W EIRP, which makes one wonder if anyone in the know really knows or is concerned about the difference. At any rate, either way will likely require a good kW to get close, considering most normal backyard LF antennas. Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a3b472b3e8810d; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:13:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG105-a3b472b3e8810d; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:13:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InyBr-0005Ic-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InyBq-0005IT-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:06 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InyBm-0005iR-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:06 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Nov 2007 15:11:56 -0000 Received: from p54853BDA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.59.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2007 16:11:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+XAXgMSziXHW8PdxE8Qm0+eujeO+5os2GzeE1p+z 7k7xsBycwmMH4X Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:11:54 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1116395590.20071102161154@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.019 Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz 1/2 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : 137kHz: Despite the high static level copied WD2XES and WD2XGJ. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 500kHz: Brief copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz at 04:45 UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-ae447370b892d2; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:02:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae447370b892d2; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDNs-0001cp-TC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDNs-0001cg-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDNp-00039P-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:56 +0000 X-Trace: 633523683-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACeaNkdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 14:01:42 +0000 Message-ID: <01f501c8246b$6417ef90$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <002301c823dd$41f3cb20$6411f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071110-0, 10/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi All at LF, I would like to convey my thanks to :- Steve - VE7SL for his encouraging comments And the following for reception reports :- John - M0JCD Mike - GW4HXO Chris - G3VXL Dave - G3YMC Graham - G0NBD Ha-Jo - DJ1ZB John - GM4SLV 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Web site updated 10/11/2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: Antenna upgrade etc > Gary ...an excellent use of limited backyard space. It should encourage > many > others to roll up their sleeves and get on the air. Your coils are true > works of art. Well done! > > 73 > > Steve / VE7SL > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8954742f6123be; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:58:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954742f6123be; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:58:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuUXj-0001by-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuUXj-0001bp-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:39 +0000 Received: from smtpout0133.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.133] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuUXe-0000Zy-O9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:38 +0000 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003BE175 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:54 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,790d9bbe8dd12110,2e9184155c07529e,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1536:1559:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2393:2559:2562:2828:3636:3869:3871:3876:5007,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from g3kev (m46-mp2.cvx1-a.lee.dial.ntli.net [62.252.228.46]) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000c01c82b85$97ec0010$2ee4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:56:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.424 Subject: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all Is anyone else using a class E PA on 500 or 137. Mine is single ended, maybe someone has a push pull design. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9a54731763d1df; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:24:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54731763d1df; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:24:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgCk-0002sb-G4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgCj-0002sS-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:05 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpgCg-00040B-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:05 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.113]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:56 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml113.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01c82117$79f84fa0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:23:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2007 08:23:56.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A14C300:01C82117] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0711.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C8211F.DB969200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C8211F.DB969200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable capture xgj strong signal from 10:00-2:30z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0037_01C8211F.DB9818A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a84472dd9a3250; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:39:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA084-a84472dd9a3250; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:39:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iogd6-0000OI-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iogd6-0000O9-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iogd3-0004MM-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:39:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 11847 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2007 14:38:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KE8pCTRJWkgkq1nbo7vyX4kPfCfn2JQlJjCyKGNsTmI1gwzCQnnw88TwqF2yoMpoO7APC+1rOKAP5EeSf3EcZXdndYpsqXsLseqkED8fHmYhKBaSD+n8jRjT0x/P6UgIabF9EF9fs3Ftxz6Cn1n13Jlwl695U0Q0Uj685JyF7zU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.58.182 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2007 14:38:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: R.8sNlMVM1mcVDORnXoSWVJbZLZa6U.UHhApTzn3DIs6q3eoBE4ryily70jAHBWqB9N_v.F4lA-- Message-ID: <005301c81ef0$68d2f820$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> <20071104132452.4267a761@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:38:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Class E ( and I think also probably Class D but I am not sure about that one) will only give maximum efficiency at the design power loading. You cannot tune for max smoke (well you can if you have dissipation capability in hand but you will not get the 90% levels) My test 150watt 137kHz PA achieved 93% on the bench, but it has to be tuned with a scope for the correct drain waveforms. ( the stage is perversely tuned about 10% below the operating frequency) This is best described in Prof. Nathan Sokal's article in QST (or was it QEX).....Nat invented the mode in the 1970s. The lost efficiency is due to switching the FET on and off at slightly the wrong times. Best efficiency is also at the higher voltages. At 12 V the Ron*Idss product is a substantial portion of the 12 volts available. A higher voltage also increases the output impedance and leads to lower peak currents and less loss in the caps and inductor and the leads. It is a fiddly narrow band PA. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 > "hamilton mal" wrote: > > > Hi all > > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > Just checked my Class-E IRF150 amp into load. > > At 50W output :- > > Dc supply = 18.7v at 3.4A > > Efficiency = 78% > > John > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-88b472f4f9332d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:20 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA015-88b472f4f9332d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:15:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5X2-0003ce-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip5X1-0003cV-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:35 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip5Wz-0000TH-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:35 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78407DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:14:03 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello LF, I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB I'm interested because for 2 days in a row I heard G4GDR in Swindon using his 5W TX and yesterday at 1600 heard GW4HXO at 2W TX power. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aa9472a75dd8a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:57:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa9472a75dd8a; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:57:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inkq8-0002ms-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inkq8-0002mj-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inkq5-0007cG-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:56:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 73420 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2007 00:56:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pxHjr89pgzXwm7QzLrZEByis7Nu3ahDlfZFajqpICDhcD6ckQqn9m04TmnD4rUDgs+eKc7tCYyR312PhZJ2MrfrbzjdjIqqlaix2agdj8nPMIvUwmrC9vj9cqgNNlEeYfJgDskdEprsEm0snyU+k9Klib6Z86AN9r7x94Pd7jqY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.41.144 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2007 00:56:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .sfA8iYVM1mCCgL_j7xQ5PSlMZehghWN1M_IdoUuXluSiKpMGFvcjmy7v0Yq_zXVgJpSKKLXnQoNEcq6LfKKigWO56h.menhcLdtD1rTs_uZ5H2K Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.17/1103]); Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:54:42 +0000 Message-ID: <003101c81cea$f4243e00$90297ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> <1842410766.20071102005659@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:54:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Dear Hartmut, LF Group, Thanks for the report on the PSK31 test sigs - shortly after, G3YKB came up on the frequency and we had a quite long QSO - We have previously worked in digital modes on 136k some time ago. 2 new modes in one day - can't be bad... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "James Moritz" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Jim, > > this received 23:48 UTC: > > {10}PSK31 TEST DE MŘBMU MŘBMU IO91u R 1ŘŘmW ERP > {10} > {10}RII 9W PEP Ii TO I1V L AT 1ŘM HIGH Iant 6ŘŘnl{10} > {10}QTH NR HATFIELD 25km NORTH OF i ONDaeN > {10} > {10}DE MŘBMO PSE W eee ee ee e {30} oLe{10}et > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-af04732ddba3e7; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:58:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB106-af04732ddba3e7; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:58:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq48z-0000V2-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iq48y-0000Ut-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq48t-0001RR-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:57:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CA63EA111 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:57:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4E3EA0F3 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:57:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4732DD96.9090208@online.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:57:42 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <110820070242.24716.473277B200077D4B0000608C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110820070242.24716.473277B200077D4B0000608C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.143 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite ( WD2XGJ and WD2XKO ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all , Last night , very good reception of WD2XKO (6636 km) its level reached the level of WD2XGJ (5536 km) towards 02:00 UTC ! The noise was still high the night spent, it should be noted that XKO was visible 2 hours after raising of sun . the captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, > > Thank you for the kind words. I think that it is less than 10 watts E= RP, I will need to do some measurements to be more exact.=20 > > Your reports and captures are much appreciated! > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 > =20 >> Hello Warren, >> >> Very good ERP! >> If John and Jay have 1W ERP , your signal is on average to 10 dB with=20 >> the top , >> you have 10W ERP ! waahhooooooo ....... Your antenna is really very good. >> It does not seem that the conditions of propagation are not also good. >> When they are good I receive John and Jay like you this night. >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : >> =20 >>> Jean-Pierre, >>> =20 >>> Thank you for the nice report and captures!=20 >>> >>> WD2XGJ is using a new antenna - two loops in parallel made of coaxial c= able,=20 >>> =20 >> the 1st loop RG-11 and the other RG-214. (The old antenna was the single=20= RG-11=20 >> loop.) >> =20 >>> Dimensions are 1st loop (RG-11) 24m vertical x 44 m horizontal; 2nd loop= =20 >>> =20 >> RG-214 29m vertical x 46m horizontal. >> =20 >>> Transmitter Racal-Decca running 1.5kW dc input. >>> >>> -- >>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ 136-140kHz >>> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz >>> WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz >>> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz >>> >>> FN42hi >>> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >>> >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>> From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Hello Warren and all , >>>> >>>> Yes very good propagation this night , your signal was very strong ! >>>> whereas WD2XKO, WD2XNS , WD2XES were on the level of the noise ! >>>> Warren, have you the =93decca=94 in service ? because it would be good=20= to >>>> compare. XKO 400W, XES 500??? , XNS 400??? please John and Jay >>>> what your power ? It should be noted that the noise (not the qrn) was >>>> high +10dB. >>>> >>>> the captures of night are at : >>>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ >>>> >>>> 73 qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> k2ors@comcast.net a =E9crit : >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>>> Hello the list... >>>>> >>>>> Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. >>>>> Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: >>>>> http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >>>> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> =20 >> --=20 >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu >> >> =20 > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b854729be68a0; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:54:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD067-b854729be68a0; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:54:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InYcW-0008EJ-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InYcV-0008EA-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:55 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InYcS-0006N2-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:53:55 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 758C9700008B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:53:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.33.140]) by mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 474887000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:53:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101115346292.474887000083@mwinf3106.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000501c81c7d$e2596be0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <005b01c81b4f$86ad4d90$0d00000a@AGB> <006401c81b55$ecc0af40$0d00000a@AGB> <4729B212.4070906@telia.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:53:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.103 Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer FOUND Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Johan, Thank's for the link .....I have just ordered some 5K pots from 'rapid' in the uk last night , ...... :-( ... as it looked like no one stocked , 4.7k, .. Many thank's thats a usefull link , looks like they have all the imperial sizes, which is usefull as all my racal equipment is pre-metric, and its bound to need more spares in the future hihi Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan H. Bodin" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2 ... looking for !!! > Graham, > > 1. Go to http://www.elfa.se > 2. Click the Union Jack > 3. In the left side menu, navigate to Resistors->Potentiometers-> > Trimmers, single-turn->trimmer, type PTC-10->4.7k. > > This one has a Cermet track and 5x10mm footprint. > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > Graham skrev: >> So far no good , >> >> Im trying to locate qty 2 (better 4) cermet trimer pot's , top adj , >> value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame , pcb mount , pin space , 5 >> mm x 10 mm > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.139]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB13-da472bb620ad; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB38-da472bb620ad; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6A3-0008DU-7f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io6A2-0008DL-Rz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io69z-0008Al-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:42:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3123EA0C1 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 00:42:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB23EA0BC for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 00:42:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472BB5F1.3020609@online.fr> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:42:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))))))))))))))))))))))))))) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.150 Subject: LF: T/A [137] vy good sig of WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LFers ! Now , good copy of WD2XGJ in JN06HT (23:00utc) 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA051-8ad472a50139f; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:16:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad472a50139f; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:15:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IniJT-0001vm-5a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IniJS-0001vd-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:54 +0000 Received: from spikey-mike.demon.co.uk ([80.176.248.203] helo=mail.spikey-mike.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IniJP-0005Lx-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:54 +0000 Received: from ws1.spikey-mike.com ([10.0.0.1] helo=ws1) by mail.spikey-mike.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IniIw-0000hW-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:14:23 +0000 From: "Mike Hawkshaw" To: References: <000901c81cb4$c7455580$3eccfc3e@g3kev> <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:14:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c81cd4$8e326150$0100000a@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20071101183229.4fead94b@lurcher.twatt.local> Thread-Index: Acgctmx/mQbOZ1uGTZ+jMuQr+Q6+HwAHRaiQ X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 PAT new Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81CD4.8E326150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81CD4.8E326150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, John ,LF. Another screen grab, from Leeds this time at 22:00hrs. Very strong signal on an inverted L and FT990 radio. Decoded with IZ88BLY Hellschriber. Regards, Mike G7AQA. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 01 November 2007 18:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500 PAT new On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:26:15 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Very strong BEACON CW id PAT on 500.0 khz De G3KEV > It's back again! I saw it on halloween... have you looked the Feld Hell sent between the "PAT"? 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello John, I have carefully listened to the recording of NDB's OZN-372 and ODR-372. The upper sideband of ODR-372 is at 372.380 kHz. The upper sideband of OZN-372 can be found on 372.405. Hence both stations are 25 Hz apart. When you switch in your 10 Hz filter, both stations can be heard, hence my guess is that your filter is a little wider than 10 Hz. Using an audio filter with a 12 Hz 3dB bandwidth, I can listen to either station, without knowing that the other is on. Regarding the noise issue, I believe that the higher noise level without your tuneable pre-amp is caused by intermodulation in the IC718. The selectivity of the pre-amp does decrease the level of the strong "out of band" LW/MW broadcast signals, protecting the IC718 front end from overload. The IMD may also be caused by your local NDB. I am also using a tuneable pre-amp in front of my selective level meters. However the signal from my mini-whip antenna is directly fed into my AR7030 receiver. The AR7030 can be used with an outboard narrow audio filter or with the 455 kHz output routed into a SPM-30 SLM (# 2) with a build-in narrow audio filter. In either case, sensitivity is on par with the SPM-30 (#1) plus tuneable pre-amp. To confirm if IMD is at stake, you could repeat the pre-amp experiment with your AR7030. I have used a R75 as well, which has a similar topology as the IC718. Most of the time I had to back off the RF-gain a bit for optimum results. Regarding your question on wide IF filters, 500 kHz is so quiet that I can easily copy a number of stations at the same time on the speaker of my AR7030 and 2.4 kHz SSB filter. When stations are weak, narrow audio filters do help a lot. However this askes for a different mind set to normal HF practice. On HF a 500 Hz CW filter is regarded as narrow and 250 Hz as very narrow. However in weak signal work 250 Hz is still very wide. Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt JO11tm Middelburg, Netherlands -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 517 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. 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Nothing in Moscow. Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > >Laurence > >Singapore > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon >> >> >>Hello Mike >> >> >> >> >> >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP >> >>RX: IC 756 PRO >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=DE= =D4=D5 =D3 =CD=CF=C2=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF=C7=CF =D5=D3=D4=D2=CF=CA=D3=D4=D7=C1: ht= tp://mail.ya.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a5347303dad3ae; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:11:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA023-a5347303dad3ae; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:10:54 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLOM-0007I7-2Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpLOL-0007Hy-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:41 +0000 Received: from smtpout1458.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.157.158] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpLOI-0007Tb-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:10:41 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.235.87) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E00290383 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c8205d$3827f810$57ebfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local><3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com><20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local><003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:09:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: -871: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : John Your beacon was peaking S5 at 1732z then qsa 0 for periods and up again, characteristic of insufficient power for the freq at that time. It is the same on HF with qrp stns, in and out of the noise, whereas qro stns are solid copy. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > Hello Jim & LF group, > > Thanks for the report. This is the sort of thing I wondered about. > > Up to 18:36 the 5W / 20mw ERP signal was readable but dropping another > 7dB and it was below the noise floor. I wonder how many dB margin there > is at 5W before the signal becomes unreadable? > > I'll try upping by 3dB at 19:45 to 2W. Then another 3dB or so at 20:00 > > > Thanks for listening all, > > > Regards, > > John > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 > "James Moritz" wrote: > > > Dear John, LF Group, > > > > Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level > > on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the > > spectrogram display. > > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > > 73 de M0BMU > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > > > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > > > Chris > > > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > > > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > John GM4SLV > IP90gg > Clousta, Shetland > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.145]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC22-1bf472f35ac244; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:27:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC27-1bf472f35ac244; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:24:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3oH-0001Oc-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3oH-0001OT-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:17 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3oC-0002ln-4H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:24:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3267C1C00084 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:24:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.0.166]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 030551C00081 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:24:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105152406125.030551C00081@mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <001401c81fbf$e756a910$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:24:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.088 Subject: LF: Re: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : That will be intresting , Pls , add Tnx - G .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: LF: LF/MF EER transverter > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to > see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: > 11/2/2007 21:46 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-93f4741ee36b6; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:12:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4741ee36b6; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:12:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuCyG-0007bR-N8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuCyG-0007bI-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:52 +0000 Received: from xsmtp02.mail2web.com ([168.144.250.215]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuCyB-0004Of-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:11:51 +0000 Received: from [168.144.108.30] (helo=M2W030.mail2web.com) by xsmtp02.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuCy5-00032g-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 217.44.217.142 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:11:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.354 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: USB soundcards X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc.=20 Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 sound card Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or have I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applicatio= n hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.134]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB14-180472cc4efcf; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:59:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB24-180472cc4efcf; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:58:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOCn-0006HU-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoOCm-0006HL-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:49 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoOCj-0002dh-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:48 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.112]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:39 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml112.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c81e4b$85216d40$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:58:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2007 18:58:39.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BB737C0:01C81E4B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0211.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C81E53.E6D07880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace of xgj henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C81E53.E6D07880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC43-1cf472dbb391a6; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:29:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoebD-0007Wp-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoebD-0007Wg-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from smtpout0157.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.157] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoebA-0002D9-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.26) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B1E0026C60C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 350: karmasphere.f2kintegrated=350.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi all Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9ef4750948b35e; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4750948b35e; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEkB-0005nE-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyEkA-0005n5-Js for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000 Received: from webmail18.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.200.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyEk7-0007Bs-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail18) by mail.yandex.ru id S8708114AbXK3Wxo convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.134] ([85.141.88.134]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000264359879 References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> 1650000000264359879 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1470411196463224@webmail18.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.201,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=0.327,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hi Graham! Whats ant/power/CW-mode are you use? 01.12.07, 01:08, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk): > HI All , > If anyone's about ,,, > Trying out 'new' Ae configuration , running a cw beacon on 503.2 , if yo= u=20 > can 'see' it > Reports welcome > Tnx > Graham > G0NBD / IO83LK=20 -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB "=EC=C0=C4=C9 =DA=C1 =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=CF=CA": =EE=CF=D7=D9=CA =CB=CF=CE=CB= =D5=D2=D3 =CE=C1 =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=E6=CF=D4=CB=C1=C8 http://fotki.yandex.r= u/contest.xml?id=3D12 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9d7473f59b01dd; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:14:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME093-9d7473f59b01dd; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItUyE-0005Qc-Eo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItUyD-0005QT-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:53 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItUyB-0005gO-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:53 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FCDA4D8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:12:44 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: "rsgb" Message-ID: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, I'm hearing PSK sounding data on 503.6 but unable to decode as normal PSK31 What mode is it? -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9bc472cda80132; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:31:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc472cda80132; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:30:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdu-0007VD-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoPdu-0007Uu-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoPdq-0000oZ-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000 X-Trace: 621623760-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.99.247 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAHJ2LEdYamP3/2dsb2JhbACQPQ Received: from 88-106-99-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.99.247]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 03 Nov 2007 20:30:24 +0000 Message-ID: <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:30:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, LF, Sorry I stopped the narrow RTTY to have a look at the band, I will put it back on if you are seeing some copy. I couldn't be sure that 23 Hz was going to get very far but it looks like it may be a useful mode. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > At the moment (1952utc), noise levels are low - I'm getting nearly 100% > copy > at the peaks of the fades, and nothing at all in the dips. Will keep it > running for a while. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test > > >> Graham, & All at LF, >> >> I think the Ascii is a bad choice for beacon mode as it looks like no > other >> decoders will read it, so I will change over to RTTY 45Bd 23 Hz shift >> when > I >> see this message come through on the LF group mail. >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:05 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> >> >> > Dont think multipsk has 85 hz shift option for ascill ? , I dont get >> > the >> > option , only 200/170 hz ? >> > >> > G .. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:51 PM >> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz Ascii-7 test >> > >> > >> >> LF, >> >> >> >> I dont think MMTTY has Ascii decode so I will switch to 85 Hz shift > soon >> >> so MultiPSK users can decode. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: >> >> 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 21:46 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-898473783d7189; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:36:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-898473783d7189; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:36:09 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLOw-00038P-Mo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLOw-00038G-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLOq-000638-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 041901C00094 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:35:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from acer9412 (ARouen-252-1-98-243.w90-23.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.23.145.243]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 99F7B1C00093 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:35:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071111223522630.99F7B1C00093@mwinf1916.orange.fr Message-ID: <003e01c824b3$1ff8e3d0$bd01a8c0@acer9412> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <47377A3D.1010506@online.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:35:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : WAOUH! 73: Jeff (F6CWN) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! Hello LF , Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b6d4730cc7c1f2; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:20:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4730cc7c1f2; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:20:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUtb-0000p8-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpUta-0000oz-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpUtX-0000ZL-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:19:34 +0000 Received: from mbox2-vams.netikka.net (mbox2 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B2A5B408039 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FB408039 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F14495B8D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1194380344.4730cc387e558@imp.netikka.net> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:19:04 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <110620071957.9182.4730C744000103F8000023DE22007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: -411: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Recording, condx at it's best: G3KEV working X-band on 502.5kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1194380344c6625e6d1804a26e5d9d8e6462f79415" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---MOQ1194380344c6625e6d1804a26e5d9d8e6462f79415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Condx on 500kHz is just getting better every day. Here is a recording of G3KEV made just a while ago, note how the AGC is trig= ged almost blanking the bandnoise. The audioclip is far too short (due to filesi= ze restrictions) to show how steady and QSB-free the conditions were at the tim= e. 579, 599 ...? 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(cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70093EA0CD for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:22:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4743DCB2.60804@online.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:22:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Warren and LF , I copy WD2XGJ ( bad conditions ! ) the signals were weak in first half of night ! it went up about the morning ( one can perhaps allot that to the geomagnetic incident of yesterday ? ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a6d473a2d1ba3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:03:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com 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CP1h1Y0023tmwjw0000000; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:01:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qP1X2wN2RonVcn9AluIA:9 a=9NXrsdUf2pYsE36lg9osGeIiKg4A:4 a=sl9YfOjVxEgA:10 Message-ID: <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:01:59 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: CFH . . . 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Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-8c7474b46a817d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA091-8c7474b46a817d; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmIT-0002a7-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmIS-0002Zy-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwmIO-0005Ln-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HWkh1Y00K16LCl0050SV00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:10 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HaK41Y00U2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:19:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vaJtXVxTAAAA:8 a=cwdZvbt3Yic3LaGH8p0A:9 a=PoPWiUaShC29RcI3Q9LxUDQhpokA:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=0dRpvnS4h04A:10 Message-ID: <19865134D37040D9BC43CA920D0A9717@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: 1650000000260747633 <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> In-Reply-To: <474A86AA.6280.D747B@localhost> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:18:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.138 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Mike, Can you transmit past 22:30? Sunset here is 21:30 so that only allows one hour of darkness. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:41 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon I was transmitting QRSS60 from 1900 to 2230. I will do the same tonight. Thanks for listening. 73 de Mike ======== > Hi Mike! > Tryed to copy in Moscow, but nothing. > What's time your was in the air? > > > 25.11.07, 16:01, Mike Dennison (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com): > > > About 10 days ago I announced some DX beacon tests following the > > rebuild of my station. Since then, I have suffered from a burnt out > > loading coil, a dead transmitter pa module, intermittent receiver > > and power supply failure. At last, I think I have a reliable system > > and am running tests during the evenings on 136.3187kHz. Once I am > > happy that everything is stable I will commence overnight DX tests. > > Mike, G3XDV ========== > > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB > > ńÎÄĹËÓ.ćĎÔËÉ – íÎĎÇĎ ĆĎÔĎË ÎĹ ÂŮ×ÁĹÔ http://fotki.yandex.ru/ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ae64733846d7d; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:50:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB094-ae64733846d7d; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:49:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqFEq-0004AJ-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqFEp-0004A7-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:35 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqFEe-0006k7-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:48:35 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071108214750m15009tqkfe>; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:47:50 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:47:49 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: jpm.f1afj@online.fr (Jean-Pierre Merre), "henny van elst" Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:47:49 +0000 Message-Id: <110820072147.17808.47338404000BC74C0000459022064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xgj0811.jpg X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Jean-Pierre and Henny! The sunset here only 15 minutes ago. Good conditions tonight! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-92b4747fc4b59; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:26:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b4747fc4b59; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:26:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvsDD-0005d5-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvsDC-0005cw-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvsD9-00057J-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C633EA0CC for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3583EA0E5 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4747FC3D.1010104@online.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:26:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> <4747FAAC.5060009@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747FAAC.5060009@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSS ! ! ! Not to read it is an error of my share sorry 73 f1afj Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > Bonjour Cricri et tous , > Michel est au Radio Club =E0 l'heure qu'il est , si tu peux recevoir le=20 > 137.7 en direct , veilles cette fr=E9quence dans l'apr=E8s midi , il=20 > serait bon que tu puisses recevoir son signal dans le grand sud ! le =20 > stream audio via internet diffus=E9 par Michel est =E9quivalent au signal=20 > qui sort de ton SDR et qui rentre dans la carte son , c'est pour ceux=20 > qui n'ont pas de r=E9cepteur sur 137 kHz . Pour ma part je mettrai un=20 > grabber d=E9di=E9 =E0 cette manippe cet apr=E8s midi jusqu'a 22:00 utc ( a= pr=E8s=20 > je bascule sur le trafic transat ! ) > il sera dispo =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/GrabberWK.htm > 73 qro J-P afj > > Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : >> Hello LF , >> >> Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO >> >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm >> >> The files of captures of night are with this URL : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht >> > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-9024731c93221e; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:18:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-9024731c93221e; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:18:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpljE-0005Fo-R4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpljE-0005Ff-GA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpljA-0006rW-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4C63EA0EA for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:17:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0D53EA0B2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:17:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4731C8FF.2010402@online.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:17:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <47317984.9090401@online.fr> <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <4731A77A.5050100@w1tag.com> X-Karma: -851: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John , John Andrews a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, > > Jay and I are both running 1 watt ERP. Ok TNX ! > I was only on the air for about 30 minutes last night. I visualize your signals on the grabber of W3EEE ( Thank you has Steve=20 Dove, that helps us well here ) > Warren's signal appears to have increased in the last week. Ohhhhhhh yessssssss !!!!!!!!!! > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8e247378a47263; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e247378a47263; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLpt-0003cn-C3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrLps-0003ce-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:24 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrLpn-0006FJ-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:24 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071111230312m1300bpuqie>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:12 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:10 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:10 +0000 Message-Id: <111120072303.3904.47378A2E000A163900000F4022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.420,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Merci ! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > WAOUH is a cry of admiration ! your signal is very extremely still this > evening , Warren > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > k2ors@comcast.net a écrit : > > Jeff, > > > > What means WAOUH ? > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "F6CWN" > > > >> WAOUH! > >> > >> 73: Jeff (F6CWN) > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:55 PM > >> Subject: LF: T/A [137] WD2XGJ now ! > >> > >> > >> Hello LF , > >> > >> Now , good copy of WD2XGJ ( Whereas the night is still far ! ) > >> > >> see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > >> > >> > >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > >> > >> -- > >> Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > >> Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC33-fd474a39cce9; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC13-fd474a39cce9; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:13:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwUOj-0000bJ-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwUOi-0000bA-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:36 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwUOe-0001Tp-Ga for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:36 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HC7P1Y00C1HzFnQ050E900; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:25 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HFCL1Y0032Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:12:25 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OTOmOvX5AAAA:8 a=6JUX2OBgwRY6FDbkGFAA:9 a=t29tUQlYfARVNA9MorlLCFS41t4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Message-ID: <7C336B3219C74EC387E787C1CFE85911@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4747F334.4040500@online.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:12:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.139 Subject: LF: 137kHz WD2XGJ Saves the Planet Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello the list, Poor band conditions tonight. WD2XGJ will save the planet and go QRT. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Hello LF , Last night good copy of WD2XGJ , WD2XKO see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht -- Visitez mon site radioamateur ŕ : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.143]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC12-104472a469d3db; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:35:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC110-104472a469d3db; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:35:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Inhh1-0001fX-Tw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Inhgz-0001fO-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.140] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Inhgw-00089w-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:09 +0000 Received: from g3kev (62.252.204.9) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A00247D99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81ccf$0e42b580$09ccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:34:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 late news Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Beacon PAT on 499/500 khz has been reported on bearing 335 degrees from F6NCI qth. UR2IL has been reportred on 501.3 khz but not heard at my qth so far. News ends de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG012-a23474eafa52a7; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG075-a23474eafa52a7; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxiR6-0001iy-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxiR6-0001ip-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from fish2.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxiR2-0000Rr-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:08 +0000 Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.146]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 23B0D4914BF for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from weazle (OWENSOUND-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.139.146]) by fish2.hurontel.on.ca with SMTP id FaW53dyaPB8KJYz5 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:23:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000601c83283$0c6f8980$0b01a8c0@weazle> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <7.0.1.0.1.20071129222206.019abe38@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:26:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Kevin, Mike, LFers, Thanks for the replies/suggestions regarding my antenna question. If I was to make use of the entire fence-line, I could have a very- very long wire/beverage of about 3/4 of a mile or so. I'll try a short version for starters to see what happens. It's orientation will be good for Europe and the N E of the US and Canada. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 EN93dr http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB43-de472df589ba; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:38:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB42-de472df589ba; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:38:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoiU5-0001Sg-GI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoiU5-0001SX-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoiU2-0006NQ-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:01 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649363EA0EE for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:37:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2433EA0AC for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:37:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472DF54D.6040204@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:37:33 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , The next night I will record on the =93single turn loop=94 , because I dismounted the K9AY to make cut the hedges tomorrow! 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8ae473b778717; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:33:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA058-8ae473b778717; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:32:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQlz-0005GZ-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsQlz-0005GQ-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsQlw-0006av-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:31:51 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d29.18025815 (52462) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Amilo3205 (acb31d24.ipt.aol.com [172.179.29.36]) by ciaaol-d09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD091-ccee473b774327d; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <20071112.002244.3620.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <473A2CE7.7040202@hifidelity.com> <000601c82650$8f1d7250$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> In-Reply-To: <000701c82695$62df40c0$2201a8c0@AmiloMarkus> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:31:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re2: More QRM from Donebach? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unfortunately the QRM returned tonight 19:00 UT:-(=20 Thanks to Hartmut for the feedback. Yes, the problem may well be related to=20= the new DRM / Simulcast transmitter in Donebach.=20 73 de Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from Donebach? The sidebands were up to 35 dB over nighttime background noise here. They=20= went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for good... 73 Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: LF: More QRM from Donebach? Hi LF, since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2 kHz: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/QRM/DLF_CFH_071113_2240.png Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk modulation b= oth indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the source. Anyone else no= ticed this problem? CFH is also strong on 137.0 now. Best wishes to all Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unfortunately t= he QRM=20 returned tonight 19:00 UT:-( 
 
Thanks to Hartmut for the feedback.&nb= sp;Yes,=20 the problem may well be related to the new DRM / Simulcast transmi= tter=20 in Donebach.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
----- Original Message -----
Marku= s=20 Vester
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007=20= 9:07=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

The sidebands were up to 35 dB over night= time=20 background noise here. They went off suddenly at 07:10 UT, hopefully for=20 good...
 
73 Markus, DF6NM
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007=20= 11:54=20 PM
Subject: LF: More QRM from=20 Donebach?

Hi LF,
 
since 19:00 today, intense splatter appeared above about 137.2=20 kHz:
Direction of arrival and correlation to the Deutschlandfunk=20 modulation both indicate sidebands from Donebach (153 kHz) as the=20 source. Anyone else noticed this problem?
 
CFH is also strong on 137.0 now.
 
Best wishes to all
Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C82716.7572F110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b9b473115f02d; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD095-b9b473115f02d; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZnL-0001pV-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZnK-0001pM-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:26 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZnH-0002lC-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:26 +0000 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.cc3.1b5d3af8 (42805) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:29 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:32:28 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5035 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.575,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194399148" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : -------------------------------1194399148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol.com writes: Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........ and going down:-) Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length to no more than 5 or 6 centimetres..... and that's aside from any perverse observations:-) -------------------------------1194399148 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 07/11/2007 01:27:03 GMT Standard Time, GandalfG8@aol= .com=20 writes:
Next one is planned for a half inch diameter plastic tube........
and going down:-)
Should have mentioned that the aim, as always, is to keep the length=20 to no more than 5 or 6 centimetres.....
and that's aside from any perverse=20 observations:-)
 -------------------------------1194399148-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-961475089ee1bb; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:08:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF057-961475089ee1bb; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:08:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IyE2C-0005Ow-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IyE2B-0005On-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:31 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyE28-0006zT-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D9111C00085 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:08:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.38.194]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7476E1C00084 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:08:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071130220822477.7476E1C00084@mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000a01c8339d$91853f50$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <00bd01c832ca$bc7d25c0$e1136a58@wgt01> <001b01c832e0$9b97a950$0d00000a@AGB> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.079 Subject: LF: Re: CW TEST ON 503.2 KHZ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n HI All , If anyone's about ,,, Trying out 'new' Ae configuration , running a cw beacon on 503.2 , if you can 'see' it Reports welcome Tnx Graham G0NBD / IO83LK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9da473b4d1817b; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME096-9da473b4d1817b; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:31:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNvu-0004ih-6w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsNvt-0004iY-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsNvq-0005PZ-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26363EA0AB for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2DE3EA16E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B4C98.8020402@online.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:28 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello friends of the L F, The grabber will be ON , this evening to see at which time the signals of Warren will be visible . You can see it by this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm It should be noted that the files of the captures of the night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA061-8a1474b47192e5; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:22:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1474b47192e5; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:22:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmLF-0002da-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IwmLE-0002dR-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:13 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IwmLB-0000U3-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:12 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HZcf1Y0090ldTLk0504b00; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:02 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HaMx1Y00P2Uxt080300000; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:22:02 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=I6xqrMMW6yGW__tPWVMA:9 a=Zsl5ZV9mRrCJpObXfPLl5vAxAlEA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=r9ify9bRtofbzNMNx7cA:9 a=sHNAeQHc-5-b-UNDMoEA:7 a=-zg2mgCqAxdRbc7SJsDDSMgkS1UA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <000701c8303d$61945af0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:21:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ - Off Tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello the list, No transmission from WD2XGJ tonight, bad weather (rain) seems to be affe= cting the antenna loading. 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ ------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list,
 
    No transmission from WD2= XGJ=20 tonight, bad weather (rain) seems to be affecting the antenna=20 loading.
 
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
 
------=_NextPart_000_0266_01C83050.D2FB9880-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b984738812b303; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:37:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984738812b303; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:37:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrcFr-0005RR-Jw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrcFr-0005RI-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.37]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrcFo-0005wc-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACGZAsH064956 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:35:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <473880BE.4040403@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:35:10 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> In-Reply-To: <00b201c8252e$2615b7e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071111-1, 11/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): wd2xsh17 1211.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) henny van elst wrote: > *capture wd2xsh/17* > *time 3:00z* > *antenne dx-10* > *rec:rohde &schwarz* > *henny pa3cpm* > *73s Henny Dat gaat echt wel een heel stuk beter zo ;-) Ko --- avast! 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Virus Database (VPS): 071111-1, 11/11/2007 Tested on: 11/12/2007 5:35:15 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006ee-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006eV-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io2Zp-0007AH-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB969DA4D9 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102195242.1f285887@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz NoV Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks John! everyone assumed it was okay but it's good to hear it officially. Now we can re-assure the stations in other countries that they can work us cross-band. ....on with the good work! Cheers, John GM4SLV On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:27:07 -0000 "John W Gould" wrote: > Following some excellent x-band QSOs by some NoV holders I've been > asked if clarification can be given as to whether this is appropriate > given the a particular clause in the 500kHz NoV's Terms & > Conditions. This issue is that clause h) in the NoV states that > "This Notice of Variation is restricted for the Research for which it > is issued and does not apply to routine messages and signals for > which the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence > shall apply." > > I've checked with Ofcom and the position is that a standard Special > Research Permit NoV was used for issuing 500kHz NoVs and that > therefore contained the clause h) wording. This clause is really > meant to cover conditions that might apply when, for example, an SRP > NoV is issued to allow a power level of 32dBW for EME experiments on > a stated band/frequency. Such an NoV is issued for that purpose and > does not give blanket permission to run that power level on any other > bands, when "... the existing terms conditions and limitations of the > Licence shall apply" Thus, for 500kHz operating the T&Cs of the SRP > NoV must be observed for that band only and it does not "vary" the > T&Cs of Section 2 of the licence which allows operation on bands > stated in the appropriate schedule. > > If my explanation above isn't entirely clear, the simple answer is > that doing x-band QSOs is OK as long as they are in someway related > to the "research" on which you sought your NoV. Thus, for 99.9% of > cases it is unlikely to be an issue. I trust that our overseas > friends are also content with that this little piece of British > bureaucracy makes their involvement "legal" depending of course on > the small print in their licence! > > 73 John, G3WKL > RSGB HF Manager > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a884739bc731f3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a884739bc731f3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrxG0-0000CQ-UJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrxG0-0000CH-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxFw-0005nV-5N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 33007 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:00:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Cf1qyW2fokOSCcKp+Tm/2RRComgdmhaX35WB5ssTzxGUBi3n3Fik7o7EH9v4P7jV2eBVVPpzqXNYLhXQO5MD9TMbJFGRxvHL3xqkjrjQtJBu/pREO2889WZsX9sYZ/aGepUWNdIaOsPGIOphX07TMVlZhEnmXRIeW2qcWIyYFxg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.58.42 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 15:00:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hqTdSgEVM1m6uElnzFpPjbq9KEt7GjxsR7re3NrTze3S5spGYsAjouDGT0nUeC6w6PrG6rDlQbH6BA2Rsh9sr5fbxel95olVWWL3Tf4UK3pLID6A Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.15.30/1127]); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:58:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c82605$b69e9fc0$2a3a8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:58:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.306 Subject: LF: EER transverter pdf file Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear LF Group, W4DEX has kindly added the EER transverter article to his web pages at: http://www.w4dex.com/projects/transverter_linear_lf_mf_by_m0bmu.htm This is an updated version, containing some added photographs of the prototype, and a couple of minor corrections to missing component values on the schematic (thanks, Uwe). I have also uploaded this file to the Google "UK500kHz group" site initiated by G0NBD at http://uk500khz.googlegroups.com/web/EER_Transverter_v2.pdf BTW, Google seems to have a problem finding this group; it is OK if you search for "UK500khz group", say, but if you just put "500kHz Group" it finds everything but what you are looking for, including the "new 500 kHz network" Google group, which seems to be mainly due to F6DGU... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB31-6d34735d6d61bf; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:06:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB65-6d34735d6d61bf; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:05:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqspn-0004mT-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iqspm-0004mK-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqspj-0005uk-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from mbox1-vams.netikka.net (mbox1 [127.0.0.1]) by mbox1-scanned.netikka.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0499A270B3F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF686270B3F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72A3495B8B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1194710712.4735d6b8df9ef@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:12 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OH1LSQ finally QRV for X-band 600/40m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Hello! I managed to sling a sloping vertical for 40m between the house and a tree.=20= The match is less than perfect but I already managed to work Mal, G3KEV with it=20= so something useful is radiated. I can not work 600/80m atm, hope this won't be a problem. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ KP03SD / Vaasa From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.140]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB11-e4472a67e9e2; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:57:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB48-e4472a67e9e2; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:57:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InjuX-0002PD-Kg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InjuX-0002P4-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InjuT-0001Rm-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:57:17 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2007 23:57:07 -0000 Received: from p548556CC.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.86.204] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2007 00:57:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19F7iAODoRFTokvq8sBV1EkbvQ2OBhgaN5aJS0HVi Qkm7qTfJXtRxoP Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:56:59 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1842410766.20071102005659@gmx.de> To: James Moritz In-Reply-To: <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.020,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Jim, this received 23:48 UTC: {10}PSK31 TEST DE MŘBMU MŘBMU IO91u R 1ŘŘmW ERP {10} {10}RII 9W PEP Ii TO I1V L AT 1ŘM HIGH Iant 6ŘŘnl{10} {10}QTH NR HATFIELD 25km NORTH OF i ONDaeN {10} {10}DE MŘBMO PSE W eee ee ee e {30} oLe{10}et 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b814746fd585f; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:18:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD063-b814746fd585f; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:18:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbDG-0004Du-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvbDF-0004Dl-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from mx5.mun.ca ([134.153.232.57] helo=fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvbDC-0002Si-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by fitzgerald.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lANGFMXf006242 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:22 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id lANGFKSj010160 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:20 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id lANGFKmn010159; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:20 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:19 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> <4746ABFE.9010004@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 134.153.232.57 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.396 Subject: Re: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank-you J-P. Alan says conditions will be poor, but could improve soon. 73 Joe On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > Hello Joe , > > On 189,9498 kHz : > Nil for VO1NA > > The captures of night are at : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ > > > 73 J-P f1afj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-97f4739d8713b7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:01:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f4739d8713b7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz8J-0000sT-Uz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irz8J-0000sK-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from mxoutlb02.versatel.de ([89.246.255.232]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irz8E-0006Sr-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:03 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxoutlb02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lADH0sMc031226 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.102.232]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lADH0sNK010553 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Received: from 89.246.63.82 ([89.246.63.82]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20071113180054.0shbl1xyqwowwkcc@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:00:54 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200711131750490250.15FF7820@smtp.wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.120,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 600 m power limits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Zitat von John RABSON : > I know that the UK limit for the NOVs is 100 mW, but is it ERP or EIRP? > > What are the limits in the US, Sweden and Germany please (and > anywhere else that has an amateur/experimenter allocation in this > part of the spectrum)? And are they transmitter output, ERP or EIRP? > > 73 > John F5VLF > > Hi John, my permit says 9W (ERP). real pwr is 3,5W (ERP). regards Uwe/di2be/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aac474f13666f; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:31:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac474f13666f; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:30:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixp57-0002RQ-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ixp56-0002RH-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:52 +0000 Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.17]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixp51-0003zU-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jayy1Y0041HzFnQ050di00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:36 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JjVX1Y0082Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:29:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=y_lztgNimQoA:10 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=SfiH4ZFlS2vuBbaeznUA:9 a=QH3lx2mXjvlju8n-lI06d9k2J40A:4 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 Message-ID: <611E9F035D954AAD915F1C658FE76756@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: References: <20071120112651.1dfa3a43@saluki.ngw.uk.com> <000201c83234$053e0d20$0b01a8c0@weazle> <474E465E.9090001@yahoo.com> <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> In-Reply-To: <002901c8329e$a2d85fd0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:29:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: M0BMU Transverter on the Lowfer Forum Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? For those that haven't received a copy Jim Moritz's excellent transverter w/ Class D PA and EER is on the Lowfer Forum: http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=451#post451 73 Warren K2ORS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a32473bd6c41ff; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:19:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a32473bd6c41ff; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:19:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsX6w-0006AK-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsX6v-0006AB-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:53 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsX6s-00047u-Fk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:17:53 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W49 ([207.46.11.212]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:17:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:17:22 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 <112321195073910@webmail10.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2007 05:17:23.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDA7F670:01C82746] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_" Subject: LF: NDB nr 500KHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a few more NDB's around here on 505KHz+ mostly unlisted....I believe= they come and go dependant on what games our friends are playing by way of=20= "exercises" (whoosh there goes another UNID Black Chinook chased by a Blacke= r Blackhawk...) =20 =20 =20 Laurence 9V1 LF Singapore, Sambawang Thunderstorms 34C _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotmai= lnews=3D --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a few more NDB's around here on 505KHz+ mostly unlisted....I believe= they come and go dependant on what games our friends are playing by way of=20= "exercises" (whoosh there goes another UNID Black Chinook chased by a B= lacker Blackhawk...)
 
 
 
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Try=20= now! =3D --_e38d6b9c-55de-4e6e-a08d-5fddc7c3f0d4_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA104-a7b4738b7703e6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:28:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA073-a7b4738b7703e6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:28:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Irfrg-00061D-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:26:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Irfrf-000614-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:26:35 +0000 Received: from smtp3.citigroup.com ([199.67.203.181] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Irfrb-0001qE-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: LF: gd signal of GI4DPE in jn49ax X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) R29vZCBldmVuaW5nIEZpbmJhciwNCmFmdGVyIEkgc2F3IHNvIG1hbnkgZ29vZCByZXBvcnRz IGhlcmUgYWJvdXQgWC1CYW5kIFFTTydzIDgwbS81MDBraHosIEkgbW9uaXRvcmVkIHRoaXMg ZXZlbmluZyB5b3VyIGZyZXF1ZW5jeSBhcm91bmQgNTAxLjRLaHphLiBJIHdhcyBpbXByZXNz ZWQgdG8gaGVhciB5b3VyIENRIDUzOSBpbiBKTjQ5YXguIEkgZm9sbG93ZWQgYWxzbyB5b3Vy IFFTTyB3aXRoIFBhdWwgT0gxTFNRLg0KSSB3aWxsIHNldHVwIG15IHN0YXRpb24gYXNhcC4g dG8gcnggb24gNTAwa2h6IGFuZCB0eCBvbiA4MG0uIEhvcGUgaXQgd29ya3MgdG8gZG8gbXkg MXN0IFgtQmFuZC4NCg0KdnkgNzMNCk1hcmNvDQpERDdQQw0KUng6IFlhZXN1IEZULTg1NyBh bmQgTWluaVdoaXANCg0KIA0KY2F0cy1vcw0KQ2l0aWdyb3VwIEdsb2JhbCBNYXJrZXRzIERl dXRzY2hsYW5kIEFHICYgQ28uIEtHYUENCkRpcmVjdDogKzQ5IDY5IDEzNjYgMTIxNA0KTW9i aWxlOiArNDkgMTcxIDg2NiAxMjE0DQpGYXg6ICs0OSA2OSAxMzY2IDE1MzYNCm1haWx0bzpt YXJjby5zY2hvbHpAY2l0aWdyb3VwLmNvbSANCg== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8a1472ec4ca8d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:23:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a1472ec4ca8d; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:22:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IowHT-0002nY-Lc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IowHT-0002nP-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IowHQ-0008Rz-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:21:55 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1244DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:21:26 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105072126.3466fc76@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> References: <022601c81f26$acef95a0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> <000001c81f3e$7a49cef0$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: [500] Dots_G4WGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 00:57:37 +0100 Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk wrote: > Hallo Gary! > Really, you are right, those dots are on the John=C2=B4s grabber! There ar= e > something new on the band. Thanks for your notice. >=20 > Hi Lubos & LF, The "dots" I see, hear are around 502.6 and 505.6 with occasionally a much weaker set at mid way between. I don't know what produces the signal. Occasionally there is a long dash of a few seconds and more usually a random sequence of short "dots". Keep an eye on the grabber during the day, when the QRN is low and you'll see how they vary.=20 Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8f64741ffc83c0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:27:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64741ffc83c0; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:27:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE9N-0007pk-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuE9N-0007pb-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:25 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuE9J-0004mA-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:24 +0000 X-Trace: 648107402-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAK6OQUdYanJG/2dsb2JhbACQYg Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 2007 21:27:14 +0000 Message-ID: <010001c82af2$f3ed0c30$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <380-2200711119201141442@M2W030.mail2web.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:27:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071119-0, 19/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.192 Subject: LF: Re: USB soundcards Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi Peter, I have 2 sound cards in my desktop PC, one is the motherboard sound card a Realtek AC97 basic features & a PCI sound card cheap & basic C-Media 8738. Both these cards work very well for use with the mentioned software. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: LF: USB soundcards Thinking of improving my ability to inprove s/n to be able to display QRSS signals using argo, spectrum lab, and decode rtty, psk, cw etc. Current system for this purpose AMD K6 processor with Win95 and a SB16 sound card Also running a Toshiba R100 laptop. Would an external USB soundblaster Surround 5.1 or soundblaster Connect give good results for decoding or have I got to go to cards costing twice as much to get satisfactory results. Anyone using the soundblaster devices for these purposes. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium MicrosoftŽ WindowsŽ and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB42-ed472f7e1195; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:40:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB57-ed472f7e1195; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:33:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8dE-0007X7-VQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip8dE-0007Wy-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from smtp25.orange.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip8dB-0003ZJ-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2544.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE9431C0008F for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from akhenaton (ALagny-151-1-94-4.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.203.208.4]) by mwinf2544.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 63B561C00081 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071105203237408.63B561C00081@mwinf2544.orange.fr Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:32:36 +0100 From: Michel F5WK X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Home Organization: mTerrier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13410414034.20071105213236@mTerrier.net> To: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV In-Reply-To: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : > I've just started a CW beacon on 501.5 at 5W TX power (approx 20mW ERP) > for an hour or so. The QRN isn't quite so fierce, between the really > heavy hail showers, so it would be interesting if anyone who can > normally receive my 100mW signals can hear anything at -7dB John, I can barely copy your signal by ear right now at 20:30 UTC in a 250 Hz bandwidth. 73 / Michel f5wk JN18HP -- The Bat 3.99.29 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b0d4747f35532a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC031-b0d4747f35532a; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:48:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvrcG-0005Ka-Lu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:48:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvrcG-0005KR-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000201c83119$08222ce0$3de4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: 1650000000261689569 <236001196124904@webmail12.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:42:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Roman. Pse listen out on 500 khz. I am usually around 502.5 khz and there is also acty around 501.3 khz from GI4DPE. We both work normal CW. 73 De Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: ". Roman" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:55 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz beacon Nothing in Moscow. Looked 136.31-136.32 qrss30. NIL. Very quiet on 505.1 today too. Nothing. 27.11.07, 02:34, Laurence KL1X (hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com): >Nothing here in 9V, but very noizy with local tstorms... > > > >Laurence > >Singapore > > > > >>From: F4DTL@aol.com >>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:05:19 -0500 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: 136kHz beacon >> >> >>Hello Mike >> >> >> >> >> >>Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP >> >>RX: IC 756 PRO >>Ant: mini whip PA0RDT >Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.Join in! -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB =F1=CE=C4=C5=CB=D3.=F0=CF=DE=D4=C1 - =F0=D2=CF=D7=C5=D2=D8=D4=C5 =D0=CF=DE= =D4=D5 =D3 =CD=CF=C2=C9=CC=D8=CE=CF=C7=CF =D5=D3=D4=D2=CF=CA=D3=D4=D7=C1: ht= tp://mail.ya.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-aff4735ca10179; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:11:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC013-aff4735ca10179; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:11:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqryU-0004Yr-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqryU-0004Yi-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqryP-0005Wn-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:18 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20071110151005m14004kc9se>; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:04 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Cc: Jean-Pierre Méré Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:04 +0000 Message-Id: <111020071510.2997.4735C9CC00077AD200000BB522058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Grabber 137 kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the grabber! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello friends of the L F, > > The “Grabber” functioned well this night, there was a problem on the > back sight of the captures. I did the “housework” in the files of the > grabber, all is correct now! I think that will have to be best the next > night. > > You can see it by this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm > > The files of the captures of the night are with this URL : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > Are available the winter 2006/2007 > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a0a4732258d1b2; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4732258d1b2; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:52:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iprsr-0006fT-3S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iprsq-0006fK-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:20 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iprsn-0003aO-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 78928 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2007 20:12:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=6nXp1CG0jgrlgPfKZJ2WFnUPkyGUwSDJOJpfS3ZftxAFOJNAWog4Z7Fl43TISdALFSlBQDh4JaGqBeh5tgXEKAdpJekaB+2E0evzaOPhtsL93Z4Kdo1NJyLJ8BFkhvKYKXV7bb4XQMzFfv1Mti+ghDSnZWlsa6UaZ6Vw2AV07uk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.202.69 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2007 20:12:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OKZxDTAVM1lAjD9BtIZqG2TvS9y6JBtZedaKVA071JDmDATFn.UkxnlxIfHOjmnEXH8BZdnRxg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:12:47 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <000701c820a9$69baa2a0$35e4fc3e@g3kev> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236 Subject: LF: test... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : test - pls disregard From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.138]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB12-ca4746ad44279; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB22-ca4746ad44279; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:37:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVqT-0003fL-9V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IvVqS-0003fC-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvVqN-0002jD-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:33:10 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B733A3EA0FA for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7419F3EA11C for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4746AC61.4090404@online.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WD2XGJ , WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , last night Icopy WD2XGJ ( good ) see grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm The files of captures of night are with this URL : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.142]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB21-6d64731114b6f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB68-6d64731114b6f; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:13:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZTf-0001ck-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpZTe-0001cb-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:06 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpZTZ-0004KH-K7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:13:06 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter04.comcast.net ([204.127.197.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20071107011222m1300bq249e>; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:12:32 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter04.comcast.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:21 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:21 +0000 Message-Id: <110720070112.28679.473110F500007EED0000700722007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: -954: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 137 kHz Propagation Tonite X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the list... Looks like very good T/A propagation on LF tonite. Good copy of WD2XGJ on Markus' grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: k2ors@comcast.net > > Hello Nicolas, > > Thank you very much for the report and capture! > > Your Miniwhip is working very well. > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ 136-140kHz > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz > WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz > > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: F4DTL@aol.com > > Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna > > (miniwhip PA0RDT) > > No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. > > > > Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP > > > > RX: IC 7400 > > Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG081-a0a472e18d6ae; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a472e18d6ae; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokq9-0003MS-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iokq8-0003MJ-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:56 +0000 Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([212.96.165.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iokq6-0005CS-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA604E4BDC for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.bvx.cz Received: from proxy45.bvx.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (proxy45.bvx.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YJPcHFk9Gqgu for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from rtv5f9d8dfdf44 (unknown [192.168.220.36]) by proxy45.bvx.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CFE4E4B07 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:13:43 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lubom=EDr_Bobal=EDk?= To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500] Dots again Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C81F1E.80CF7A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo ALL! I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this morning. This signal is on the band again. Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47 sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz. Does anybody listen or see this dots as well? Lubos, OK2BVG ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C81F1E.80CF7A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hallo ALL!

I wrote about an unknown signal on 600m band this=20= morning. This signal is on the band again.

Some dots, duration 1sec, are transmitting each 47= sec parallel on two frequencies 501.200 and 501.600 kHz.

Does anybody listen or see this dots as well?=

 

Lubos, OK2BVG

 

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<000a01c81e72$31c8b000$2a298351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00f201c81e39$d10712d0$f7636a58@wgt01> <001701c81e3b$b16e2ab0$0e00000a@AGB> <010d01c81e3d$3528e510$f7636a58@wgt01> <002d01c81e53$32f07f40$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> <019401c81e58$5c428dc0$f7636a58@wgt01> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:35:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C81E72.31858C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C81E72.31858C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Gary, LF Group, The attachment shows a spectrogram of the last hour or so of your test, up to around 2251utc - earlier periods were similar. The upper trace is G0MRF's beacon, which is quite local to me, and the lower trace is G4WGT. As far as readability goes, the transmissions that are fairly yellow were printing out with few errors; this was about 20dB above the "blue" noise floor on the spectrogram. I would estimate that this mode will work with similar signal levels to CW - the "yellow" signals would have been comfortable audible CW copy. As you can see, the periods of QSB are quite variable - For a short QSO of a couple of minutes, this wouldn't be a problem, but long QSO would require standing by waiting for the signal level to build up after a fade - also rather like CW. I used MMTTY for reception - with 23Hz shift, the signal has to be tuned quite accurately for best reception, perhaps within 5 Hz, and I found it was neccessary to turn the AFC off to avoid it wandering off towards G0MRF's CW/PSK31 signal - the separation between the two signal carriers was only 100Hz, so not surprising I suppose. The bandwidth of the narrow RTTY looks quite similar to PSK31. 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WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "henny van elst" > capture xgj > strong signal from 10:00-2:30z > > henny pa3cpm > 73s From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB023-abe47317a4b2b9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:42:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB044-abe47317a4b2b9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:41:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgTi-0003Cs-2r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:41:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpgTh-0003Cj-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:41:37 +0000 Received: from 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Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with 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2007 13:18:37 +0000 Message-ID: <4742DE8E.5060603@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:18:06 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) When I heard John's recording of my signals with a 10Hz AF filter I was most impressed. My own view is how various bits of hardware work depends a lot on the listening environment. On 73kHz the receiver performance improved with insertion of front end attenuation or at the very least a reduction in RF gain. The front end attenuation was particularly important for those operators who were lucky enough to have a go at operating from one of the Decca stations before they were decommissioned. The signal from the large antenna completely overwhelmed the receiver front end. In this case a sharp CW filter was helpful provided the QRM level was not too high. At this QTH 136kHz was badly affected by the sidebands from the the Loran station at Lessay. CW operation with a sharp filter was not practical because of the effect the Loran pulses had on the filter. A wide filter was much better. This was the main reason most of my 136kHz operation was on QRS. On 500kHz the antenna has a gain of -20dBi. Nevertheless I usually have the 20dB attenuator switched most of the time and this is only switched out when when the band is very quiet. I use a FT-990 for receive which has the IF digital filters and I will try to use these more effectively. Peter, G3LDO > Have a listen to the recording here :-- > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/OZN_372_RX_test.mp3 > > In this test I tuned to 372.420kHZ, the upper sideband ident of the > OZN-372 NDB in Greenland. At 09:30z it's not too strong here. In fact > it was totally inaudible. The noise level was too high to make it > worthwhile adding more gain in front of the RX....or so I thought. > > The recording starts with the RX in CW mode, 2.3kHz IF filter and no > internal or external pre-amp. Pretty noisy and no sign of either OZN or > the more local ODR. > > I switch in my 10Hz AF filter. The wideband crud disappears, but still > no OZN. > > Next comes the LF353 op-amp tuneable pre-amp. This shouldn't help, as > all I'll do is amplify the noise, right...? > > Bingo! > > Both OZN and, a few Hz lower, ODR. > > I have a local NDB (TL-376) and the keying harmonics (multiples of > 400Hz) can be just be heard (wearing 'phones) - a final switch if the > IC-718 internal 250Hz inrad filter cleans it up. > > My queston now is.... > > Would more people benefit from similar, simple, additions to their > 500kHz stations? > > Many people are still trying to receive on wide IF filters and > straightforward amateur rigs (the IC-718 is one such rig). My > experience of being able to hear people perfectly Q5 yet be inaudible > to them might be in part due to the extra hardware, not purely my > superior location? > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.146]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC31-1cb47297bd5140; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:10:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC39-1cb47297bd5140; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:10:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InUBl-0007NF-PD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InUBl-0007N6-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: from smtp112.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.245]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InUBk-0004yv-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:10:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 210 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:09:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rZgef6WcuZnfvmprq0uwsrY+KTMXqOiqkX1UqfQDAoOHbnk3c0bJwLgDbHU64s+Bysrhx0uTcZ0hkv52HgdzW0305ANstCU9wGEg5dL/VWWHl8HVfmoMlNGiCbKjrngOv96uE8MdlMJDChWHwDgZP7WFbrj2MwySfxtau02ki90= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (we0h@71.37.243.3 with plain) by smtp112.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:09:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: phLTE7IVM1k9h7k1m3nGu5njmSgVY6DWe4hnMVWeJeBt0LyvQYpjNOieko9UZG6KBnlhlvW0JMurrv83XBlWaf.WcWO_KhH_8epbTBSzGng0hfD68m4- Message-ID: <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:09:46 -0500 From: WE0H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave, How many & what length radials do you have under that vertical? Mike WE0H WD2XSH/16 Dave Sergeant wrote: ... > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move!... > 73 Dave G3YMC > http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a114744fd66f2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:54:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a114744fd66f2; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:54:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv38E-0007pc-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iv38E-0007pT-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.224]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iv386-0000pi-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W10 ([207.46.11.173]) by bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:53:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:53:22 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 03:53:23.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A821810:01C82CBB] X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.174,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=0.627,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_" Subject: RE: LF: QSW/QTV X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then suggest yo= u peruse.... =20 =20 =20 http://www.qsl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf Laurence KL1 X QTU 24 =20 =20 =20 > > Hi all> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF f= reqs at> times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what=20= MF QRG I> am transmitting on> I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QR= G and monitor my TX freq to> avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep t= he QRM out on all bands, the> normal procedure. When anyone calls please try= and be on my exact QRG> otherwise I might not hear you.> > 73 De Mal/G3KEV>= >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_11200= 7=3D --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
If that looks like a lot of double talk, gobbledegook Q'ness then sugge= st you peruse....
 
 
 
http://www.q= sl.net/n5uza/afmars/document/acp131.pdf

Laurence KL1 X
QTU 24
 

 
 
>
> Hi all
> To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I=20= will use the HF freqs at
> times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appro= priate to indicate what MF QRG I
> am transmitting on
> I will u= se QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX freq to
> av= oid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all bands, the> normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG<= BR>> otherwise I might not hear you.
>
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
= >
>


Connect and share in new ways with Windows= Live. Connect now! =3D --_faf70bb9-3fbf-4da0-9bf8-9e17a0c565ac_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA094-8d64741708f378; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:16:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA108-8d64741708f378; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:16:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4by-0006dO-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu4bx-0006dF-Dx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:17 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.117]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu4bu-0003xm-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:17 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.109]) by hpsmtp-eml17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:09 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml109.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c82a9d$92f41180$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <000701c82a99$32f52a70$7c7ba8c0@ACER> <001b01c82a9b$f410d360$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 11:16:09.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[95DE3920:01C82A9D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n TU JAY henny pa3cpm 73s > > WE2XGR/2 was on 506.5 kHz running 12 wpm cw ID with gaps (10-12 seconds) > between IDs. QRT at 0430Z. > Thanks for the report! > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "henny van elst" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:44 AM > Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): who1911.jpg > > > capture 506.5khz. time:4:20z qrs3 > but who? > henny pa3cpm > jo22mb > 73s > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-8c547363ee3254; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:29:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA087-8c547363ee3254; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:29:41 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqzlK-0006Up-R6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqzlK-0006Ug-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81] helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqzlH-0000QC-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:14 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1IqzlG-0001V2-02; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:29:10 +0100 Received: from 192.168.2.22 (ZB4sn6ZQghAQewbvioYpxkkYbn7-KFOfG7HIn0-Ay5BlWs5CKOn2lNAYcYj4NYag-R@[217.95.86.53]) by fwd28.t-online.de with esmtp id 1IqzlG-0kziDo0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:29:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.04.0003 Date: 10 Nov 2007 23:28 GMT Message-ID: <1IqzlG-0kziDo0@fwd28.t-online.de> X-ID: ZB4sn6ZQghAQewbvioYpxkkYbn7-KFOfG7HIn0-Ay5BlWs5CKOn2lNAYcYj4NYag-R X-TOI-MSGID: 3882c605-8d97-480d-9fa3-0558818388a0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: GI3PDN and G4WGT auddible in JN68GN Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear all, tonight 10. November 2007 around 23.10 to 23.20 UTC heard GI3PDN beaconing on 501,6 kHz and test de g4wgt io83qp on 503,7 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, both stns with qsb. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG022-a25473ef14e1b1; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:49:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a25473ef14e1b1; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:49:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItO1y-0004oS-U2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItO1y-0004oJ-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItO1u-0001wH-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:48:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 15109 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 13:48:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=x6x6TTN/gGmo5+DNfpTiTJ78YMa6Xlk2tqIy6ZGPO/giP5E/x0dzV05jTyE2olTKvZUgh2Fmfag7fm1h7UgMcK49t6EZVAMeHHlccj/Wr62r8ZPv41atOzFlcKF/Ber8j7uGyaXArww2cymLHw5Tg2juBw/2acf3IGoNFrg5t2U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.39.248 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 13:48:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: luBAgXoVM1kO2W1e0H_SLtwf_oaj0pcBWoUpFxcWCkHbiF4puxA7Pax7a3L14vs6Ou8JsSuDOw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.16.0/1135]); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:46:20 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c82920$3be7d300$f8277ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <20071117100817.54c90983@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:46:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.120 Subject: LF: Re: RX artillery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear John, LF Group, If the RX noise level is the same as the antenna noise level, then when you connect the antenna to the receiver, the noise at the RX output should increase by 3dB - this would probably satisfy the criterion of being able to hear the noise increase when the antenna is connected, but would give 3dB worse signal-to-noise ratio than an RX with a very low noise figure. I guess this would be quite significant with a weak signal at the threshold of audibility, so really you want quite a big increase in noise level when you connect the antenna - for example, if the RX noise is 10dB below the antenna noise, the noise level would increase by about 10.4dB with the antenna connected, and the degradation in overall SNR would only be about 0.4dB. What is meant by noise is another thing - even quite a deaf receiver can hear the static crackles on either LF or MF, but what really is the limiting factor to detecting a signal is the background "hiss" between the cracks and pops, which can be at a much lower level. Also, at my QTH, even on a quiet-sounding band a considerable part of the noise can be mains-related - this can be quite hard to distinguish from the band noise, but is more obvious if you look at the RX output with an oscilloscope set to "line" triggering. So I would certainly agree that a preamp could often be useful in improving SNR - I think the same is probably true for many rigs on the higher HF bands, if you are using modest dipole-like antennas. Also, the receiving antenna arrangements are obviously very important, since the local noise levels can easily be much higher than the band noise. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA081-a83472f71fe4f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:42:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA083-a83472f71fe4f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7pE-0006L1-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip7pD-0006Ks-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:31 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip7pB-0002oB-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:41:31 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E53DA4D8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:41:02 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071105194102.76a76255@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> References: <20071105171403.3dabfa98@lurcher.twatt.local> <3aaadcb80711051029q2ec8e54fxd2d8252f0a5e68c5@mail.gmail.com> <20071105183727.2a6be1ef@lurcher.twatt.local> <003f01c81fde$28cd40c0$d12e7ad5@w4o8m9> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Jim & LF group, Thanks for the report. This is the sort of thing I wondered about. Up to 18:36 the 5W / 20mw ERP signal was readable but dropping another 7dB and it was below the noise floor. I wonder how many dB margin there is at 5W before the signal becomes unreadable? I'll try upping by 3dB at 19:45 to 2W. Then another 3dB or so at 20:00 Thanks for listening all, Regards, John On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:00:40 -0000 "James Moritz" wrote: > Dear John, LF Group, > > Up to 1836utc you were getting up to a reasonably readable s3 level > on the peaks of the fades - now you are down to a faint line on the > spectrogram display. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: QRP Beacon 501.5 > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:29:00 +0000 > > "Chris McCarthy" wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > at 18:27 peaking 5 4 9 > > > Chris > > > G3XVL (Ipswich, JO02NB) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris and Dave. > > > > Now at 18:36 down to 1W and approx 5mW ERP > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-8e34730199dac; 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SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA ( sorry Joe , nothing here ) The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8f7473b6209341; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:01:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f7473b6209341; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPLz-0004u2-4X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsPLy-0004ts-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:00:54 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsPLv-0003sX-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi,=20 It wasn't me...sorry! =20 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John Pumford-Green GM4SLV Sent: 14 November 2007 18:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 ". Roman" wrote: > Hello John! > May be it was a G3WCB? >=20 > Find by a google: > 21/22 Sep > G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm >=20 Hi Roman & LF Not unless he was also transmitting on 506.05 at the same time repeating "WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC " on both frequencies in perect sync! It looked more like a normal AM modulated NDB signal with its carrier on 505kHz and modulating frequency of 1.05kHz. It isn't listed in anywhere I can find. It's not audible now so I'll wait until tomorrow and see if it turns up again. Cheers, John --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-9a9473b3bc312c; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:17:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a9473b3bc312c; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:17:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IsMn8-0004Ty-78 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IsMn7-0004Tp-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:45 +0000 Received: from webmail12.mail.yandex.net ([213.180.223.102]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsMn3-0003KM-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:16:45 +0000 Received: from YAMAIL (webmail12) by mail.yandex.ru id S6833256AbXKNSQV convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [85.141.88.47] ([85.141.88.47]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 From: ". Roman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: 1650000000254253265 References: 1650000000254253265 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:21 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.547,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 503.95 "WC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Hello John! May be it was a G3WCB? Find by a google: 21/22 Sep G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz =E2=80=A2 G3WCB in CW and QRSS3=20 http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm 14.11.07, 17:09, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk): > Hello FL, > Doen anyone know the source of a CW ident I can hear on 503.95 sending > "WC WC" ? > Just noticed it on the grabber and can hear it reasonably well by ear. > Seems to be fading up in strength at 14:00 UTC > John -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9c5472dc1ec308; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:58:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c5472dc1ec308; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:58:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof3F-0007pS-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iof3D-0007pJ-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:03 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iof3A-0004mg-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:58:02 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B37DA4D9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:57:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:57:53 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071104125753.6c9e45a1@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.044,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0000 "hamilton mal" wrote: > Hi all > Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % > efficiency. Has anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems > anything above 60% is hard to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Hello Mal & LF, The best I've acheived with Class-E has been about 70-75%. I understand that you're supposed to select values of components and tune the o/p stage for best efficiency at your chosen DC supply volts and target power. Away from these points the efficiency won't be optimum. 70% is easily acheived by careful tuning. 80% and better has eluded me so far. Cheers, John -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME071-9d3474074e133a; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:22:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME087-9d3474074e133a; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:22:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItnqH-0003XD-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItnqG-0003X4-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItnqE-00054e-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:56 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C204DA4D6 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:46 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071118172146.6539d78a@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.258,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: RTTY Galore! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, Almost continuous 100% copy of Gary's 22Bd 23Hz RTTY and now _ RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY RYRYRYRYRSQRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ GEVXIZ CQ CQ CQICQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ AR K >From Chris G3XIZ at 45Bd 85Hz shift. Cheers, John=20 --=20 John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a75472de55dce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:29:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA065-a75472de55dce; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:29:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IohPM-0000wo-R2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IohPM-0000wf-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IohPI-0005Wy-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:29:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 9717C8C21E for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:58 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oqUOQi+6yBXL for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.113.234.35] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 13C3E8C061 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:28:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472DE539.2000201@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:28:57 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c81ede$3af050e0$1ae4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CLASS D and E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hamilton mal wrote: >Hi all >Class D and E amplifiers are supposed to give around 80/90 % efficiency. Has >anyone actually achieved these figures. It seems anything above 60% is hard >to arrive at using normal coils/capacitors. > >73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > Hi Mal, LF group iin my design of class E 137 kHz PA using DC power of 27V and I = 6A i got 220 V(p-p) into 48 Ohm test load so this yields around 78% efficiency. i've used polyprop capacitors and PVC pipes for all windings. all necessary calc. were made using Nathan Sokal's equations in the QEX Jan/Feb 2001 magazine. also I HAVE TO mention the work of Alan, G3NYK; Mike, GW4HXO and Finbar EI0CF presented on Alan web site. i've made a great use of their work and experience. thank you :) 73, peter,sq7mpj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.146]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC14-120473f662b17e; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC48-120473f662b17e; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp2-0006Il-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ItVp2-0006Ic-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53] helo=mk-filter-2-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItVoz-0003xC-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:28 +0000 X-Trace: 636278047-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.114.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAA/1PkdYanJG/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-114-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.114.70]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 +0000 Message-ID: <010201c82966$38d511f0$46726a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071117211244.5824d02c@lurcher.twatt.local><00b601c82961$dbf433c0$46726a58@wgt01><20071117215039.1f8cd085@lurcher.twatt.local><00ee01c82964$9fe60720$46726a58@wgt01> <20071117220132.353b315b@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:07:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071117-0, 17/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.196 Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Hi John, Yes, just sussed that out with MMTTY but my TrueTTY will not move from 45bd. Tommorow night I wil use 85 Hz shift. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: What mode 503.6? > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:53 -0000 > "Gary - G4WGT" wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> If the decoder states 45 bd it means 45.45 bd, I don't believe you >> can change that parameter so no problem. >> > > > that all depends on your software! > > gMFSK has the choice of 45 or 45.45 > > There are just as many errors (ie lots) whichever speed I choose. The > noise seems to be wrecking the decoding despite a reasonable sounding > signal by ear. CW would work! > > > Cheers, > > John > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9e2472f350a35a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:21:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME106-9e2472f350a35a; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:21:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3l4-0001M5-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip3l3-0001Lw-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:57 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3ku-0002ki-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E485CA4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps06.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.34P) with ESMTP id XID406LkePuK8874X03; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:36 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN sv1bke@usa.net cmsapps06.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID406LkePuK8874X03 Received: from cmsweb07.cms.usa.net [165.212.8.20] by cmsapps06.cms.usa.net (ESMTP/sv1bke@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.40I) with ESMTP id 914LkePuh0078M29; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:33 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.20 AUTO sv1bke@usa.net cmsweb07.cms.usa.net Received: from 77.49.197.223 [77.49.197.223] by cmsweb07.cms.usa.net (USANET web-mailer CM.0402.7.80); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:20:32 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:20:32 +0200 From: "EMMANOUIL MANTZARAS" To: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.80) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <833LkePTG8362S07.1194276032@cmsweb07.cms.usa.net> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID914LkePuh0078X29 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.253 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : >Dear LF Group, > >I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for >500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at >180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, >let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see >who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers >of e-mails separately > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > > > > =20 > Hi, Can you send me a copy please ? Thanks Emmanouil sv1bke From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a93472cfb12266; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:50:03 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA103-a93472cfb12266; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:49:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoRnq-0000Ew-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoRnp-0000En-MO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:17 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoRnm-0004t3-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:49:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 47379 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2007 22:49:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE; b=sWX1/+lrFt2dfBhwoujj2vrCyfgDmTYMSrDMc8DIa5zlKfrMGGdx1Y6LRrpzW0+GS4LGU/YLi0aofQqwyrbU+wdJYLBIDbgltAQRrjcNe39IVC216Z/30rwxwN6ctpAOxP/qi/fdQsuHguNjMaqua1oZwaZslcC7GknSU6D/AoA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.123.172 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2007 22:49:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: h_l5qyQVM1lPDCscE34OFS5ff5_UhMSHtlWxFpP9m3PFupvFz.93pelwFjyTyVDvdFbpwLv9Rg-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <004701c81e5c$2006cc00$7f107ad5@w4o8m9> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: [500] 500 KHz Narrow RTTY - G4WGT report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, LINES_OF_YELLING,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Gary, LF, The following text just received, using MultiPSK:- "RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 22:45UTC - 03/11/2007 TESTING DE G4WGO G4WGT G4WGT IO83QV TESTING THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOGETESTING DE G4WGT G4WGT G WGT IO83QP TESTING RYRYRYRRYNYRYRYRY YRYRYNYRYYRZRYRY" - pretty good, eh? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 03 November 2007 20:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz Narrow RTTY Dear Gary, LF Group, Yes - quite consistent sigs now, I reckon I am copying your "quick brown fox" message with only a few errors on about 60% of the transmissions - It looks like a QSO would be practical at the moment, although the noise level seems lower than usual tonight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a85472d6e3f1cf; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:01:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA085-a85472d6e3f1cf; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:01:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IoZTL-00057n-BL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IoZTK-00057e-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IoZTH-0003Pm-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:00:38 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE833EA0B3 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:00:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6471E3EA0A9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:00:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472D6E11.7000002@online.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:00:33 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.149 Subject: LF: 1600m / 2200m Beacon : WD2XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Last night , I copy on 137.77 kHz : WD2XKO in QRSS30 On 189.95 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b11472f28d01ac; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:29:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b11472f28d01ac; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:29:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2wt-00005B-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:29:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2wt-000052-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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b=NTWBoVH9kybcenBsBviIdhPafgDhsvCFcyR7Tvwf3M4W4KibTEPaMWx+/mXG67q/voIu4IGYGyUoha/zHYUW1qnVKSXDTrS02lCXp27LO6m1T3K5jiXH4b2b2eQDbgM9VCz/6odqUnnw9xhrUnvczEP54Q9jteqgF/AjYF1bw0g= Received: by 10.35.51.19 with SMTP id d19mr6135100pyk.1194272941199; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.100.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:29:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:29:01 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002101c81fb6$6430fc60$7e1c7ad5@w4o8m9> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Can you put me on the list please, Jim Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt On 05/11/2007, James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-199474147f2286; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:23:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB49-199474147f2286; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:23:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu1sz-0005rj-C6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iu1sy-0005ra-Qs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iu1su-00077Y-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:21:40 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5233EA116 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AE63EA107 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47414778.2000405@online.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <470BF24B.70802@online.fr> <470CD639.8050207@online.fr> <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <470D1F47.2000105@online.fr> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 1600m Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , On 189,9498 kHz : Nil for VO1NA The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Latest_189kHz/ 73 J-P f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b0b472ef91295; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:06:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC027-b0b472ef91295; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:05:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IozlZ-0005Aa-Ob for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IozlZ-0005AR-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IozlU-0004MP-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:13 +0000 X-Trace: 622107031-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAH6GLkdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbACQAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 05 Nov 2007 11:05:01 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01c81f9b$b57a9240$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20071105103322.06cc1035@saluki.ngw.uk.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi John, LF, This is on the call sign search on the www.qrz.com web site :- G3BIK E CHICKEN 21 TOWNSEND CRESCENT KIRKHILL MORPETH NORTHUMBERLAND NE61 2XP UK I have not seen his signal yet. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz QRSS G3BIK > Hello LF, > > Looking through Chris G3XIZ's "operators" list I see no mention of > G3BIK. > > I have seen QRSS-3 from G3BIK on 502kHz on a few occasions - including > this weekend sometime. I have no email address for him and have never > read of anyone else hearing/seeing/working him. > > I will try to find an archived screengrab showing his QRSS. > > Regards, > > John > GM4SLV > Clousta, Shetland > IP90gg > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.144]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMC21-10a472f9f1016f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.192.85]) by rly-mc02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC26-10a472f9f1016f; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:54:10 -0400 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20071105225409m15009ut7ke>; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:54:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Markus Vester" Subject: Re: LF: XGJ, Holmes Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:54:08 +0000 Message-Id: <110520072254.28809.472F9F100004E4200000708922007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-AOL-IP: 204.127.192.85 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Markus, Thank you very much for the nice early capture of XGJ! Unfortunately clouds and an approaching storm mean no viewing of "Holmes" here. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Vester" > Hi Warren & LF, > > on topic: Strong signals from XGJ (137779.8) early tonight at 21:20. Loran-C > traces on 100 kHz also indicate good condx. > > off topic: Had a nice glimpse of 3 mag comet "Holmes" in Perseus this > evening - really magnificent in binoculars! > > Best wishes to all > Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-88d47447b4035; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:39:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA017-88d47447b4035; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:38:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuTC-0006D2-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IuuTB-0006Ct-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:41 +0000 Received: from smtpout0136.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.136] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IuuT8-0006vq-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:41 +0000 Received: from sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030B3A003F319B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:31 +0000 X-SpamScore: 30 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 30,2,0,e6754c4203961db5,b7ad9d9c89d595b8,g3kev.ham@virgin.net,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2199:2393:2559:2562:2693:2729:2828:3351:3636:3690:3865:3867:3868:3873:4225:4250:4699:5007:6119,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: (100%) BODY: contains "rx"; Received: from g3kev (unknown [64.97.206.40]) by sc1-out04.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000701c82c6d$b703b4f0$78e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:37:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: QSW/QTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all To avoid any ambiguity xband working 500/HF. I will use the HF freqs at times and use QSW or QTV 505.5 khz as appropriate to indicate what MF QRG I am transmitting on I will use QSX 1833/3533/7033 Khz on my 500 QRG and monitor my TX freq to avoid QRM. I use narrow filters on RX to keep the QRM out on all bands, the normal procedure. When anyone calls please try and be on my exact QRG otherwise I might not hear you. 73 De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC62-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VM-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VD-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InUZW-00053w-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 9771 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.85.26 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:34:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: E_H8AEgVM1msM.KiaN.WfFR2Qiq4HpkkEB5HDG5mXCyiFd3MOTLk6Bm5HIyZYE6mqZ7IOWVDFM_Oa89.3RR8Fgmy8OrZWiHDXdpEwI23nhRNXuaD From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472981A1.3178.3C338F@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com>, <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.138 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:09, WE0H wrote: > Dave, > > How many & what length radials do you have under that vertical? > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > Dave Sergeant wrote: > ... > > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move!... 73 Dave > > G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com > With the back garden being only 45ft x 22ft radials, regardless of their number, are pretty ineffective on MF. Over the years I have tried all sorts of things, and there is quite a lot of wire buried under the lawn and a few earth spikes. I have concluded that whatever I do it is a losing battle. You can find details of my setup at http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/ 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.148]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC43-1de47350a5e3a7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:33:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC58-1de47350a5e3a7; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:33:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqfDC-0002Rg-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqfDB-0002RX-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:37 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqfD7-0006XO-At for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20071110013154m11004i3dfe>; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:32:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.18.115] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:31:53 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Joe Craig Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:31:53 +0000 Message-Id: <111020070131.6235.47350A0900050F350000185B22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WRC Approves 2200m! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, Is this the 1W EIRP proposal? -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Joe Craig > > Dear Group, > > Good news from Geneva: For the first time ever, > we get an allocation below 200 metres. > > See http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/07/1109/ > > for more info. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-9fb4736c50f228; 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Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:01:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071111090122988.F13477000082@mwinf6306.orange.nl From: "Victor van Kooten" To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:00:57 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4736B872.4000600@online.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks Jean Pierre,I wasn't sure because I didn't have a full callsign, 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2007 8:08 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: XGJ Hello Victor , Victor van Kooten a =E9crit : > Received XGJ and traces at 137.775 KHz > It this WD2XKO , visible 22:45 to 08:00 utc plse look on my grabber at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a97473bf7be371; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:40:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA107-a97473bf7be371; 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Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from proxy.wartsila.com (proxy.wartsila.com [194.251.142.28]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 Message-ID: <1195112319.473bf77f30a85@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:38:39 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <23121195064181@webmail12.yandex.ru> 1650000000254396733 1650000000254502987 <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <149331195084612@webmail22.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 194.251.142.28 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 501.1 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roman, LF I have also noticed the RTTY around 505 kHz and were surprised no-one has commented on it before now. I first heard it about a week ago and it is clea= rly audible at times in the evenings here in KP03SD. My attempts to decode it us= ing various soundcard-based software has failed every time I tried but I'm not t= oo familiar with RTTY so the decoding problem may well be between the chair and the keyboard. 73's Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting ". Roman" : > Hi All! > > > > 505.1 kHz in Moscow tonight: > > http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2007/151107_504_3_03.jpg > > > > 505.060 kHz OK0EMW, 505.180 kHz DI2AM > > 505.080 kHz rtty? who is it? > > > > Moscow local time on the pic gmt+3. > > > > > > -- > > 73! > > Roman, RW3ADB > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a4b4734a05423a; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:01:04 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA013-a4b4734a05423a; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:00:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY9m-0000Ei-1I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqY9l-0000EZ-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:37 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqY9h-00028D-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:37 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.102]) by hpsmtp-eml15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:00:08 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <007201c822fa$572610e0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:59:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2007 18:00:07.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C9ADB00:01C822FA] X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): xns0911.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C82302.B8D51C20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20" ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable traces of xns 5:25z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C82302.B8D51C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InhpF-0001ly-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:43:41 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InhpC-0004uB-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:43:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38AB97000083 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:43:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 068247000081 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:43:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071101214312267.068247000081@mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:43:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Jim, Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , looks like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty has that option Problem is the propagation , the window is not very long, but psk31 looks to do a good job , and ive run a session using Olivia 16 tones @ 250 Hz bw , that looked to get the best reception reports , only thing is its 250 hz wide , I noticed that multi psk has a 110 baud hf packet mode , its no wider than olivia , would be interesting to see if it would manage a qso , using very short frames , might just get in during the qsb peaks , ? To date, Its proved very hard to have a qso via data , mainly due to qsb , any system that requires to 'lock' first gives poor results .. Graham .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Dear Gary, Graham, LF Group > > Thanks for the screen shots of the Chirped Hell sigs. The "speed" used > during the tests was intended to be viewed with the same spectrogram > settings as QRSS 3 > > I will be out this evening, but will try some more tests tomorrow. I have > PSK31 working on my shack PC at the moment, plus I have downloaded some > RTTY > software which will hopefully be working by then. I'm open to suggestions > as > to what sort of tests to do. > > BTW Graham - for your preset pots, Farnell part number 452 610 looks like > the right thing. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 18:26 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB12-69a472e1ddb8f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:31:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB68-69a472e1ddb8f; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:30:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IolAr-0003l5-SJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IolAr-0003kw-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IolAm-0006Uf-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:30:21 +0000 X-Trace: 621869641-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.62.109 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAA+sLUdYaj5t/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-62-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.62.109]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 04 Nov 2007 19:30:10 +0000 Message-ID: <01da01c81f19$1c6b80f0$6d3e6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <000501c81f16$1f08a160$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:30:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.202 Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dots again Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D7_01C81F19.1BDA1660" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01C81F19.1BDA1660 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Lubos, LF, I get something similar quite regularly always on 503.300 KHz, accompanied with a loud beep & as you can see strong sidebands. 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Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IulPL-0000ig-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:09 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A118DA4D8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:58:00 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: Message-ID: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hello LF, It is normal, polite amateur practice to a) listen for a few minutes and b) send a signal such as QRL? when selecting an operating frequency. On 500kHz itself this is rarely a problem, as band occupancy is generally low. This doesn't mean it is never an issue, even on 500, though. However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing between 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. A 500kHz station (no names, no pack drill) was heard calling "CQ QSX 3533/7033" on another 500 frequency (the beauty of having 2 receivers on 500) and then, without checking if 3533 was in use.... no "QRL?" or other courtesy was given..... he started calling on 3533 "CQ QSX 502"... and then proceeded to alternate between the 2 bands until he got his desired cross-band QSO. Why he calls on 80m "QSX 502" is a mystery to me ...surely he isn't expecting a "reverse cross-band QSO" with an existing 500 NoV holder? Why not do it all on 500? The QSO already underway was swiftly and politely abandoned, both on 500 and 3533 to make way, without any fuss and in a way that was perhaps unnoticed to the station concerned. Sadly this isn't the first time I've observed such behaviour. Occasionally a non-MF aware station will call on 3533, not knowing that it's being monitored for cross-band replies, and it's perhaps excusable - not everyone knows of, or is interested in, MF. Even if they call "QRL? it might not be possible to reply to them. Many of us have "RX only" setups for the 80m side. In this instance the correct thing for us is to move our 80m RX frequency and announce it in our CQ calls. I find it disappointing however that active MF stations seem to blindly assume that 3533 is free for their use and don't first a) check 500 for obvious cross-band activity away from their own 500 frequency nor b) check 3533 itself. A quick tune round 500 would have quickly made it obvious that a cross-band QSO was underway. If 3533 is in use they are free to find another nearby frequency and announce it in their calls, surely? I've done this many times and still had successful contacts. There's nothing magic in 3533 itself. I see regular complaints here decrying the poor operating abilities of the current "non-CW" generation, mainly from one source. I suggest we all need to check our methods and motives. For some stations the driving force seems to be "DX DX DX" and first sniff of an new QSO, in-band or cross-band, and out come all the shoddy practices of general HF operation - calling without listening, ignoring other QSOs underway, assuming ownership of certain frequencies. It's bad manners and poor operating. 500 isn't a "DX at all costs" band - it's an experimental allocation where the passing of information and observing of signal strengths and propagation conditions should be more important than a "569 QRU 73" QSO just to get another new country in the log. Just sticking to single 500kHz and 80m frequencies and blindly calling "CQ" regardless of what is already happening on the band(s) is simply indicative of poor operating ability. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9c1472f24cfba; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:12:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME065-9c1472f24cfba; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:12:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2gm-00088B-41 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ip2gl-000882-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:27 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.114]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip2gi-0006OH-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:12:27 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.110]) by hpsmtp-eml14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:12:19 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:12:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01c81fb5$d4b5b940$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:11:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2007 14:12:18.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFEDE2B0:01C81FB5] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 0511 who.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C81FBE.36633DE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0" ------=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable who ? henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_0027_01C81FBE.36633DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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"James Moritz" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:47:53 +0000 Message-Id: <110520071447.17997.472F2D19000EADD90000464D22007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.425,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF EER transverter X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jim, Please put me on the list. Thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ 136-140kHz WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz WE2XEB/2 160-189kHz WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "James Moritz" > Dear LF Group, > > I have written up an article describing my transverter with EER PA for > 500kHz. It runs to 7 pages with circuit diagrams etc., and the pdf file at > 180kB is too big for the reflector as usual. If anyone would like a copy, > let me know and I will send it direct - I'll wait until this evening to see > who wants it, and reply to all together, to save replying to large numbers > of e-mails separately > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8c947370c44193; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c947370c44193; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:05:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDRe-0001lH-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrDRe-0001l8-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrDRa-0008Bf-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:05:50 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2007 14:05:18 -0000 Received: from p5485791E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO HW1) [84.133.121.30] by mail.gmx.net (mp046) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 15:05:18 +0100 X-Authenticated: #38158605 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1972FZVFcF7WLIsgiTmtSTCqIO4+p/4vngO0NN61g sCx0w9vnfX+6nF Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:05:15 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <358016036.20071111150515@gmx.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137 kHz 10/11 Nov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Copied S57A and F6BWO in QRSS3 on 137.7 kHz. From across the pond copied WD2XGJ on 137.7798 and WD2XKO on 137.7775 kHz. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.118.141]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMB22-ee473102cb252; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:12:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB58-ee473102cb252; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:11:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IpYVL-0001Kk-Aq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IpYVK-0001Kb-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:46 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IpYVH-0003cs-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:46 +0000 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.d57.e322fa9 (32914) for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:10:09 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:10:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 47 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Karma: 922: (null data) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ with miniwhip antenna Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d57.e322fa9.34625c62_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : --part1_d57.e322fa9.34625c62_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1194394208" -------------------------------1194394208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna (miniwhip PA0RDT) No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions. Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP RX: IC 7400 Antenna : mini whip PA0RDT -------------------------------1194394208 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Warren very nice signal since 2310Z with my small active antenna=20 (miniwhip PA0RDT)
No noise on T/A frequencies tonight, good conditions.
 
Best 73=20 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Antenna : mini whip=20 PA0RDT
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C832CE.BAFE9F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing away behind that slot? 73, dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of K2ORS Sent: 29 November 2007 00:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Pictures on the Lowfer Forum Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?p=446&posted=1#post446 Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE. 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It=20 looks like a seriously lethal bit of kit - is there a big bottle glowing awa= y=20 behind that slot?
 
73,=20 dave G3WCB IO91RM
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Bob WE2XGR/6 pictures now up on the Lowfer forum.
 
Bob was one of two U.S. stations to work Finbar GI4DPE.
 
 
STRAP!!
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C832CE.BAFE9F40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ad547440512d7; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:14:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB073-ad547440512d7; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:14:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Iumb5-0004Q8-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Iumb4-0004Pz-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iumb0-0001Og-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:18 +0000 Received: from saluki.ngw.uk.com (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6DDA4EC for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:10:00 +0000 From: John GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071121101000.2d311686@saluki.ngw.uk.com> In-Reply-To: <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> References: <20071121085800.35fcfb1d@lurcher.twatt.local> <4743FCEF.16968.B1FBD7@dave.davesergeant.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Cross-band etiquette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:59 -0000 "Dave Sergeant" wrote: > On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:58, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > > > However I've become aware recently of neglect of this courtesy when > > using cross-band for contacts with non-UK or non-NoV stations. > > > > Last night, as an example, a 3-way cross-band QSO was ongoing > > between 2 UK stations on 501.316kHz and a PA station on 3533kHz. > > Interesting comments John. > > You must certainly bear in mind that working crossband 80m to 500kHz > is currently a very minor interest and something that the vast > majority of users of 80m will be totally unaware of. Hello Dave, LF, Yes, I totally agree that for the majority of 80m users the existence of 500kHz cross-band activity is either unknown of of no interest. I'm not surprised or concerned, that normal 80m QSOs occur on 3533. There's no reason why they shouldn't. > In that respect the choice of 3533 is perhaps unfortunate as it is > in a part of the band heavily used for local QSOs on that band. > Somewhere rather higher, say between 3565 and 3580 or so would be far > better. Again I agree, as a way of protecting ourselves from unintentional QRM from 80m users. > > To call CQ on 80m and say QSX 502 is doubly confusing. I still don't know what the motiviation is for this action by an NoV holder. Anyone who can answer on 502 should be worked in-band on 502. I fully understand non-UK or non-NoV holders calling on 80m "QSX 502". My real concern is the lack of courtesy or operating skill of actual NoV holders who open up on 500 or 80m (or both alternately) without following the accepted norms of checking (very carefully, given the weak signals likely to be encountered) that both the 500 and 80m channels are clear. If one or other is busy then an alternative frequency should be chosen. It also seems counterproductive to call "CQ QSX 3533" when 3533 is blatently in use for a 2-way in-band QSO by "normal" 80m stations with no interest in 500. What's a prospective cross-band responder supposed to do... call over the top of an existing QSO? Some flexibility is surely called for. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-ba14735e2262ba; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:54:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD103-ba14735e2262ba; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:54:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtaV-0004yi-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqtaV-0004yZ-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54] helo=mk-filter-3-a-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqtaS-0006Ng-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:39 +0000 X-Trace: 644292266-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.25.27 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALxwNUdYahkb/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from 88-106-25-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.25.27]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 2007 16:53:30 +0000 Message-ID: <009801c823ba$393bd1d0$1b196a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <007301c823ae$f8ef4090$1b196a58@wgt01> <4735DCEE.27980.223D387@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:53:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071109-0, 09/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hello Dave, Thank you for your comments. Yes I was using the new antenna arrangement last night for my initial testing. It does seem to be producing good traces on the grabbers but you never can tell if its due to conditions & not the antenna. OK your comments on the images etc, the 2 images at the bottom have not been re-scaled as I usually do, photos taken this afternoon before uploading, I will investigate. The publishing software is indeed Serif - Web Plus 7, nice price for the features. Cheers, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: Antenna upgrade etc > Not sure if you were using the new arrangement last night Gary, but > you were a good signal, 579ish, down here in Bracknell. Not that much > weaker than the G0MRF beacon which you were somewhat underneath. > > As to the website, no real comments except that the picture of the > new arrangement (image13952.jpg) is not very clear and you can't > easily read the text. Probably you have resized it from a larger > image and lost resolution. And on that subject, your two pictures at > the bottom are HUGE (600kb and 213kb), you should resize them to be > much smaller. > > I see it is done in Serif, which I understand is a publishing package > and not the best for html, which shows. There is a lot of redundant > code and all the absolute positioning makes it very hard to follow > the source. > > But apart from that, it looks fine... > > 73 Dave G3YMC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.137]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-1a447375c04127; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:46:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB510-1a447375c04127; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:46:14 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IrIkh-0002fT-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IrIkg-0002fK-G6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:50 +0000 Received: from hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.118]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IrIkc-0005Uz-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:45:50 +0000 Received: from cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.107]) by hpsmtp-eml18.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:40 +0100 Received: from ACER ([81.204.139.159]) by cpsmtp-eml107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:40 +0100 Message-ID: <00a201c8249b$659a9720$7c7ba8c0@ACER> From: "henny van elst" To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:45:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 19:45:40.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[708F4EF0:01C8249B] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.212,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): di2am11 11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01C824A3.C7407AA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0" ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable strong signal di2am time19:45 z henny pa3cpm 73s ------=_NextPart_001_009F_01C824A3.C7407AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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