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Hi LF

All QSY up, but LF graber ON

http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html

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Its surprising how many amateurs subscriber to this reflector but have no
opinion, SITTING ON THE FENCE. !!!!!!!!!!!!
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At 16.25 25/10/2007, you wrote:
>Hello,
>very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get access?
>
>many thanks
>vy73
>Marco
>DD7PC

Easy, it is the organ of the RSGB. You get it by subscribing to RSGB, 
like you get QST by subscribing to ARRL.

Marco IK1ODO



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It's probably worth pointing out that the archive CD's of RadCom seem to be 
available to Non-members from the RSGB shop, (on-line store) so you can get 
hold of past issues of RadCom even if you are not a member.

http://www.rsgbshop.org/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Radcom___QST_17.html
73
Hugh M0WYE


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sri - we're being rather parochial.  Radcom is the magazine of the
> RSGB, for members only.  It used to be half full of  technical
> articles with the rest made up of operating, news and events.   Now it
> seems to be all about events, people, HF contesting, amateur radio
> celebrities and holiday photographs; what technical stuff it pretends
> to include under that category consists of a beginners / homebrew
> column, which to be fair is very good - if you're a beginner!  There
> is a regular column which has the audacity to be called "Technical
> Topics" but is more of a nostalgia trip for its writer and ought to be
> called radio history.  Another column "In Practice" often carries the
> only circuit diagrams to be found in some months' issues.  There are
> some other regular columns which were originally meant to be operating
> based, but some of the authors of those (I'm one) include mainly
> technical matters to try to make up for the rest of the magazine.
> What is lacking, and gives the magazine its boring image is the lack
> in recent years of full blown constructional or technical articles.
>
> As someone who took to writing technical articles for magazines about
> a decade ago, and have written quite a few since, all I can say is
> give it a go.   I found that the real difficulty to producing any
> article is making the start.  If you are writing about something
> you've done, and completed to your satisfaction, once the first bit is
> started the  words will flow.   Diagrams and cross references
> generally take up the most time (and cause most errors).   Diagrams
> are always redrawn so you don't have to be too particular about
> supplying neat ones.
>
> In particular, they are interested in the shorter weekend project,
> typically one to two pages (1000 - 2000 words approx) and the largest
> likely to get into print these days runs to 4 pages - that appears to
> be a dictate from high and does preclude some really good big things.
>
> Anything submitted to Radcom these days has to be passed by the RSGB's
> Technical Committee (TC), and they usually offer a few helpful
> comments if any changes are needed.   The editor himself is an
> experienced writer, and can, if needed, make a superb job of editing
> the English / grammar etc.  My first experience of Giles was when the
> article on the Bell Hill microwave beacons had to be cut from 6 to 4
> pages.   (Considering we'd already had a very intensive editing
> session to get th eoriginal size down as requested by TC, he managed
> to reduce the size by a further 33% without losing anything of the
> content).
>
> Enough of that parochial rant, this reflector isn't really the place,
> we should be trying to influence the Board / editors really.  But
> there are a lot of subscribers to this reflector who do produce
> interesting technical stuff, and the magazine does have a dearth of
> stuff.   Give writing a try - it gets very addictive after a while.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 25/10/2007, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get 
>> access?
>>
>> many thanks
>> vy73
>> Marco
>> DD7PC
>> ________________________________
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> G0MRF@aol.com
>> Sent: 25 October 2007 16:03
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: 500 LF: RADCOM
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Andy.
>>
>> I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced
>> recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and
>> found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up 
>> call.
>> There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when 
>> technical
>> articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to 
>> appear.
>> I wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being
>> published?
>> Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an 
>> individual
>> and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to give
>> 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.
>> 1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering but
>> without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks 
>> and
>> a binocular microscope to build it.
>> 2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key 
>> components
>> for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
>>
>> This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG 
>> and
>> Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
>> comercial equipment exists.
>> Of course, something working against this process at present is that 
>> 500kHz
>> is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
>> Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
>> nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
>> Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
>> definable?
>> Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
>>
>> Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
>> 03/08.
>>
>> So many things to do, so little time.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> David  G0MRF
>>
>> In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
>> andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:
>> How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
>> tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
>>
>> Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
>> is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
>> sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
>> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
>> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>>
>>
> 



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Not online, but download, install and run--

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73
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Chebyshev



Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 
pole Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this 
months Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or 
so; this is typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence 
Singapore. with thanks Laurence 9V1 LF

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Dear all, 

just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz apart,
GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at 501,4 kHz and
501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have some QSB, GI4DPE
more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about the same level.

Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 

As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a regular
possibility in autumn and winter nights.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Thanks Mal  G3KEV, for the xband contact tonight. I was using 50 watts  to a 
80/40 trap dipole. One of the problems with dual receive was the loss of  the 
500 khz signal when the auto atu was in cct for 80m. So at the end of each  
transmission I had to switch the atu out of cct. I apologise for the  morse, I 
am not used to qso'ing on the key. I can usually manage the rubber  stamp stuff 
for dx chasing and contesting, but qso'ing will require more  practice. I 
have had a nearly retirement gift from the company I work for, of a  Kent brass 
straight key, so have no excuses when I retire just before Xmas. I  used the 
rigs inbuilt keyer with a Bencher paddle tonight and that runs away  with me 
sometimes. I will track down John GM4SLV for a cross band contact.  I heard him 
on this evening and called him a couple of times on the 80m  frequency before I 
had the contact with you. We have been in contact  through email nearly from 
the start of his operations on 500Khz. 
So thanks again Mal and 73.
Mike G3YPE  



   

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Alberto,

that kind of connector is still available and is called
"Micro Ribbon". 14, 24, 36 and 50 pole versions are common.

73
Johan SM6LKM


Alberto di Bene skrev:
> Off topic, sorry...
> 
>   Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the interconnecting 
> cable between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter and the accompanying 
> PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar to the Centronics 
> connector at the printer end of a parallel printer cable, only with a 
> smaller number of pins (24 I think).
> 
> Thanks for any info
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD


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Updated my website with screenshots taken last night:

137 kHz: UA4WPF and WD2XGJ
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: complete chirped Hell transmission from M0BMU, CW capture of
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On 31 Oct 2007 at 16:42, MGreenw969@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks Mal  G3KEV, for the xband contact tonight. I was using 50 watts
>  to a 80/40 trap dipole. One of the problems with dual receive was the
> loss of  the 500 khz signal when the auto atu was in cct for 80m. So
> at the end of each  transmission I had to switch the atu out of cct. I
> apologise for the  morse, I am not used to qso'ing on the key. I can
> usually manage the rubber  stamp stuff for dx chasing and contesting,
> but qso'ing will require more  practice. I have had a nearly
> retirement gift from the company I work for, of a  Kent brass straight
> key, so have no excuses when I retire just before Xmas. I  used the
> rigs inbuilt keyer with a Bencher paddle tonight and that runs away 
> with me sometimes. I will track down John GM4SLV for a cross band
> contact.  I heard him on this evening and called him a couple of times
> on the 80m  frequency before I had the contact with you. We have been
> in contact  through email nearly from the start of his operations on
> 500Khz. So thanks again Mal and 73. Mike G3YPE  
> 
> 

Just trying to get myself sorted out for this crossband stuff. Using 
my K2 on both 80m and 500kHz (via the Datong UC1) and relying on the 
500kHz for my sidetone means I have to click the band up/down button 
twice to change the the receiver between the two bands (between 10m 
and 80m). Not particularly quick changeover..... But I don't have any 
antenna changeover problems, the two antennas are totally 
independent.

Just listening to G3YPE working G3UNT crossband. Brian is 599 on 
502kHz whereas Mike is only just above the noise on 80m. It seems 
conditions are now in their winter mode where you can't work G-land 
on 80m in the evenings!

Now Brian is working F6BWO, also very weak on 80m.

At least it is bringing some activity to the band.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
>
> Hallo ALL!
>
> Hard QRM and QSB  this night (the same as last night). Signal of=20
> GM4SLV was the best around midnight UTC.
>
> =20
>
>
Thanks for the report Lubos.

It looks like my plain CW signal is getting out well now. For others who=20
may thing Lubos's screenshot is of QRSS - it's not! It's of slowish=20
speed CW, about 8wpm? from a TiCK-4 memory keyer. It's slow enough to be=20
readable in very narrow filter, or on a waterfall screen, but fast=20
enough to be readable by ear! The best of both worlds!

Best 73,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:03:01 +0200
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
> 

> >
> > How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able
> > to hear or see signals from them yet.
> >
> 
> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> pse see
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
> 
> there they are visible.
> 
> regards
> Uwe
> 
> 

Hi Uwe, Paul-Henrik and LF,

This link:-

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

should give an autimatically upating view, every 5 minutes.

Cheers,

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Confirmed per the 500kc.com site but like Hartmut says, 505.750 is 
Dave's CW freq he likes to hang out at so watch there too.

Here's the freq list:

CALL    STATION     QRSS FREQUENCY  CW BEACON FREQUENCY     
                    
W1FR    WD2XSH/14   505.250     505.300     
W5TVW   WD2XSH/2    505.251     505.350     
AI8Z    WD2XSH/12   505.252     505.400     
W2ILA   WD2XSH/9    505.253     505.450     
                    
K9EUI   WD2XSH/19   505.254     505.500     
K0JO    WD2XSH/13   505.255     505.550     
WB2FCN  WD2XSH/22   505.256     505.600     
N6LF    WD2XSH/20   505.257     505.650     
                    
W5OR    WD2XSH/15   505.258     505.700     
AA1A    WD2XSH/17   505.259     505.750     
W5JGV   WD2XSH/7    505.260     505.800
N4ICK   WD2XSH/8    505.261     505.850     
                    
KW1I    WD2XSH/5    505.262     505.900
N1EA    WD2XSH/18   505.263     506.050     
WS4S    WD2XSH/11   505.264     506.000     
KD5UWL  WD2XFX          525.265     506.050     
                    
W5THT   WD2XSH/6    505.266     506.100     
W4DEX   WD2XSH/10   505.267     506.150     
W1NZR   WD2XSH/1    505.268     506.200     
WE0H    WD2XSH/16   505.269     506.250     
                    
K2ORS   WD2XSH/23   505.270     506.300     


Mike
/16


Laurence KL1X wrote:
> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -
>  
> thanks
>  
> Laurence G4DMA/M


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How can we have regular skeds when there are only 4 regular stations active,
one on RTTY, one on CW, one on PSK and another only on BEACON mode.
My previous message must have escaped YOU.

G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> I dearly love subscribing to this list, absent the periodic "harrumps"
> from those insisting that most of us are well down the road to perdition.
>
> Anyway, please allow a suggestion. I recall nothing in our regulations
> over here that amateur contacts must arise from a chance meeting of
> operators at the same time on the same frequency under conditions that
> would support a QSO. Assuming the same is true on the other other side
> of the pond, why not have some publicly-announced regular schedules
> between two or more stations, or even have a net one night a week? This
> should at least encourage listening or even on-air participation by
> others. Coordination could easily be handled on this mail list.
>
> Were I an Ofcom official (perish the thought), I'd be much more
> impressed by a report on the 500 kHz NOV's next spring describing
> regular scheduled activity than by one claiming that the band always
> seemed dead. The former would give some hope that the band would be
> useful for emergency communications, a good argument for an amateur
> allocation.
>
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>
>



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Many thanks Paul- Henrik/Graham/Gary,

 

Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the help of GI4DPE.

 

Now running beacon on 501.6 for OK2BVG

 

73 to all

 

Mike GW4HXO.

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--Subject: LF: GW4HXO Q3 in KP03SD 

 

Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on 501.5kHz. He was
a Q3

copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.

 

As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another
QSO. A

QRZ at Q5 was called a few 100Hz below.

 

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ont-size: 10.0pt'>Many thanks Paul- Henrik/Graham/Gary,<o:p></o:p></span></f=
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ont-size: 10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the hel=
p of GI4DPE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Now running beacon on 501.6 for OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-=
US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--Subject: LF: GW4HXO Q3 in KP03SD </span></fo=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on=
 501.5kHz. He
was a Q3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ont-size: 10.0pt'>As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks=
 having
another QSO. A<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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Hartmut,
> The new ones heard last night:
  
  Are these NDB's ?


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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> 
> The new ones heard last night:
> 
> 09.10.2007      21:13   326     C       HNG     Debrecen
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> 09.10.2007      21:00   343     E       ROU     Craiova
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> 73
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While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
view the AM on a scope.

There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)

Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?

Andy  G4JNT
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If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...

Andy  G4JNT
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From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>


Hi Andy,

Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.

       -- 73, Joe, K1JT


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Hello LF

I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
light pollution!

I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.

Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-

G3YHV Colin, Bristol
G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing

and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT

Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.

My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.


I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
ongoing somewhere within radio range.

Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a
small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come back...will this
list only accept text messages and block any type of attachments.

Vern - VE1VDM


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Just copied GI3PDN in QSO with G3XVL on 502.5kHz. GI3PDN was S0.5-S1 over no=
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Only faint signals from the other party (identified by GI3PDN's transmission=
s)
were copied in the beginning of the QSO.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa, Finland, KP03SD



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Improved T/A conditions on 500 kHz last night. Brief copy of a "/6" in
QRSS3 on 505.266 kHz about 05:00.The cw trace of XSH/17 was visible on
the QRSS3 captures on 505.75 kHz. On the cw captures the signal was
visible, but hard to read. Best around 01:55.

The signal strength plot of the G0MRF beacon shows a poorer overnight
signal strength than usual. Best around 23:30.

Captures of XSH/6 and G0MRF can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
23:00=>02:30  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )

On 187 kHz :
17:30=>18:20  traces on frequency VO1NA (??????)

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

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Dear LF Group,

I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.

I am testing a new HF - LF/MF transverter I have been working on. It takes
output from an HF SSB rig at 4.5MHz and mixes it down to 500kHz. It also
up-converts the receive signal. The HF rig (IC718) is set up to run "sound
card modes" from a PC (at the moment, the Chirped Hell signal is being
produced by DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab), so the system ought to work with just
about any mode that will run on the PC. The transverter has a linear 500kHz
output that could go to a linear PA, but I thought it would be more
interesting to modify my existing class D 500kHz TX to operate in an
envelope elimination and restoration (EER) mode. So the transverter also has
a limiting amplifier to produce a square wave carrier which drives the class
D PA, and an envelope detector that recovers the modulation envelope and
drives a series modulator that controls the PA output amplitude. The
modulator uses the existing DC current limiter/keying circuit in the TX.
Although the modulator dissipates some power, the overall efficiency is
quite good provided the modulaton has a reasonably low crest factor. I have
also tested the system with PSK31, and the unwanted high-order sidebands are
down 35dB or more on the main sidebands, so the output spectrum is fairly
clean and comparable with normal HF practice.

So I now seem to have a fairly universal 500kHz TX/RX system - does anyone
want to try any interesting modes?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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Hi all,

I don't read RADCOM, but in Germany, we basicly have the same problem. I would
love to see more projects etc. in the ham radio magazines, but when talking to
the publishers, there usually is one basic problem: nobody submits technical
articles. (anyway, they have lots of non-technical articles on stock)

I can only guess but these might be some of the reasons:

- Hams who are good technicians often are no good writers or simply not
interested in writing.
- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you at
10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since they
think they are excellent enough for doing so.

You probably can ask every ham radio magazine and offer to submit a 
_technical_
article, and they will love you for that. Might be the same in Germany than in
UK.

73, Oliver
(DL9QJ, N3NSF)










Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal, LF,
>
> You wrote :-
>
>> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
>> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>> Does anyone else have an opinion.
>
> Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be 
> submitting ideas & articles to the RadCom team.
>
> I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they 
> don't know the stuff is there how can they print it ??
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>



-- 
[Dr. Oliver Welp
welp@muenster.de]


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Hi Laurence,

   Thank you for the report from your mobile. It was the first transmission from WD2XGJ since the 10th of January! Testing a new antenna setup (parallel loops made up of coaxial cable) with low power (250 watts). I have to assemble the higher power tuner components in a box before I can run full power with the Decca tx.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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> 
> SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.
>  
> Last night also good clear signals from XGJ and XES on or near 137.779. Warrens 
> QRSS looks like it was visible from his switch on. John XES came on later and I 
> only caught a strong DFCW X before my laptop battery died in the car. There was 
> a loran line just HF of Warren that followed the gradual increase in Warrens 
> strength. At 0500z when I turned on the car inverter it looks like both were off 
> but that Loran line had faded too. Good to see some signals, strong too.
>  
> 73 Laurence G4DMA mobile
> SDR IQ Dell 610, PA0RDT eprobe on magmount.
> M1 J28 Derby Nottingham
>  
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.<BR>
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil
On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj






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Jim,

That would of been , Gary G4WGT , running  45.45 baud rtty at 85 Hz shift

noticed your signal early in the evening , but dident  'twig' it was a data 
signal , can you tx in psk31 ? may of printed


Graham ..


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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
> tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
> with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of 
> signal.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
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Mal,

The harmonic content of a divider's rectangular waveform would be a 
problem for the wideband detector circuitry in the analyzer. The 
waveform is typically not an issue for a classic bridge with a receiver 
for a detector, as the harmonics are ignored.

If you could incorporate a good low pass filter to take out the third 
harmonic and above, then your idea should work.

John A.

hamilton mal wrote:
> Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded, much
> appreciated.
> One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
> divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use the
> 4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band). Has
> anyone seen a cct along these lines.


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Brief weak copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz
around 05:30 UTC.
The QRSS10 signal from WE2XGR/2 was captured on a QRSS3 screen and was
visible 23:35-00:45 UTC. After 00:45 Jay was sending CW but to weak
for a copy.

>From the UK copied G0MRF, GI4DPE and GM4SLV.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Just worked G3JKV from IO91UF ...=20
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Thanks for the (VHF-) QSO, looking forward for another one.

73,
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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>snip----
> The old F M CAMM comic of years ago 

Methinks you meant F J Camm

Dave ZL3FJ ( No FJ bias here......)


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Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  start=20
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In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kHz 1=
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Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
=20
=20
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna

=20

Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
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Joe VO1NA








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Last night , nothing here .
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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Hello LF,

Just to dispel the myth of no CW QSO activity...

I called CQ on 502.5kHz at 21:20 UTC and was called by Chris G3XVL. The
QRN was fierce, and Chris is quite a weak signal up here all the way
from Ipswich, a distance of ~914km. I sent him RST 339 and heard back
(straining in the noise) 339? (and I think later 559) 

We had to call it a day though due to the noise.


-- 
John GM4SLV
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Im at Heathrow and tracked the GI4DPE beacon all the way down from Nottingha=
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ss 3 but now coming up as we goto dusk but the hire cars now back at Avis so=
 dont have an antennae platform.=20
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Also heard G3UNT calling CQ 599 @ J15 M1, and a G4GDR/G3D (?) qso - again I=20=
should have written down the calls but full R5 some 10-30dB above noise nr D=
erby. G0MRF beacon was visible and audible for most of the way apart from wh=
en going around the M25 and some very noisy pylons. I think I reported the G=
I4dpe and SLv qso last night again lots of qsb but always R5
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73 Im outta here.
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Im at Heathrow and tracked the GI4DPE beacon all the way down from Nottingha=
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should have written down the calls but full R5 some 10-30dB above noise nr D=
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Hi John, ALL!
The weather is changing, so very QRN on the band. But signal from GM4SLV
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Again high static level last night. Brief copy of the QRSS3 signals
from WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz and WE2XGR/3 on 506.7 kHz between 01:20 and
01:50.

Strong signal from GI4DPE beaconing on 501.3 kHz in CW and good
overnight copy of G0MRF beaconing on 503.7 kHz.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
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Hallo OM=B4s!
Beacon OK0EMW will be switched off from 5.10.2007 to 7.10.2007. I am
going to receive on 500kHz away from the city, on portable about 5km
fare of  nearest village. I am looking forward to good reception in the
unpolluted nature. I hope the QRN will be low, my primary interest is
testing some rx aerials baming to UK.
=20
73 and GL on 500kHz!
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Beacon OK0EMW will be switched off from 5.10.2007=20=
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Hi, Gary.

In fact, it didn't get bounced...it just got delayed for about 20 minutes,
so I ended up sending it twice :-$

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Hi Dave,

Strange you say it bounced as I have your first e-mail via LF for the same
report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----
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> Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#
>
> DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble"
> in
> transmit frequency.
>
> Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>






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Hi Dave,

Strange you say it bounced as I have your first e-mail via LF for the same 
report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 19 October 2007 19:52
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> Subject: DL1EIE - Report
>
>
> Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#
>
> DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" 
> in
> transmit frequency.
>
> Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> 



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---Ursprüngliche Nachricht---
Absender: <087321565-0001@T-Online.de>
Empfänger: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
Betreff: Re: LF: GI4DPE and GM4SLV
Datum: 18. Oct 2007 01:46

Dear Alan,

thank You for your comments on the propagation.

I have read already on the LF server that conditions last night have
been regarded rather favourite by others, for shorter communication
distances.

Tonight I still can hear John very clear again around 23.30 UTC; the
noise level is lower. But on the other hand I have missed GI4DPE
beaconing tonight.

I shall continue to monitor the band.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Hello all on LF ,

Tonight no listening in 137 kHz ! sorry .
i am problem : both RX on same antenna =3D big noise !.......
I will try to find a solution as fast possible .
I listening only 187 kHz .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>

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Hello Ed ,
i listening in 137.7~
73 qro J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =E9crit :
> Ga LF.
> =20
> testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
> most welcome.
> =20
> Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hello Graham,

I assume you use one of the "stable" (not "unstable") releases... I recently=
 modified the buffer structure to support very long FFT's, which caused some=
 problems with the memory allocation.

To get SpecLab running again without re-installing it, delete the files SETT=
INGS.INI and MCONFIG.INI in the SpecLab directory. This takes you back to th=
e safe default values, and allows you to select one of the predefined settin=
gs from the main menu.

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Betreff: LF: Spec lab wont run ...... win xp-pro
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> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried=20
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there=
=20
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
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> Tnx
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> Graham ..=20
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Ok Gary,

Thats the full 'tape ... can you reduce the rx signal, see when it stops 
printing ?

Tnx

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight


> Graham, LF,
>
> Thanks for the help earlier, I have the hang of the software now.
>
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> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:34 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
> midnight
>
>
>
>
> The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...
>
> How to  set mode
>
> Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'
>
> You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 
> 0)... afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250 
> 4-500  etc ....
>
> click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ 
> tones 8)
>
> tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to 
> stop wandering caused by noise
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Graham
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08 PM
>  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
> midnight
>
>
>  Hi,all.
>
>  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .
>
>  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out 
> perform  psk31
>
>  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone 
> freq , I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- 
> few c/s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .
>
>  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal 
> fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy
>
>  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<
>
>  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below 
> the noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede ,
>
>  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center 
> frequency to  that of the transmission and software settings
>
>  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb 
> .. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 
> 'carrier'
>
>  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 
> 1300 Hz
>
>   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software 
> will provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses 
> and reduce the s/n at the rx .
>
>
>
>  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent 
> appeare to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.
>
>  Software can be downloaded from :-
>
>  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm
>
>  select :-
>
>
>   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)
>
>
>  Tnx
>
>  Graham
>
>  G0NBD
>
>  io83lk
>
>
>
>
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Hi all
Those stations active in EU that cannot work direct on 500 khz please work
xband for a real time QSO.
I will monitor 3533/7033 khz when working in the shack and QSX when calling
CQ. The 7033 freq would be more suitable daytime but I will check both.
Anyone else active on 500 in the UK could also check in for an xband QSO.
Mode normal CW.
I have worked several EU countries already using xband, not a lot during
daytime because of the power restrictions but night time is better.
73 de Mal/G3KEV




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Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in OH/KP03SD=
 at
17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once durin=
g
the past week.

As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although it
would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lack of
2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the breaktrough fr=
om
happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular basis" b=
ut
your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here. Late ni=
ght
propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with plenty of=20=
time
for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in normal=
 CW:
http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt

The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot her=
e
during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best for
DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over noise.
That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well aware=20=
of
the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-meter
needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with 10W EMRP=20=
if
I remeber correctly.

So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other countrie=
s as
well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD

Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:

> Hi all
> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more internationa=
l
> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of the
> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 give=
n
> that there is some other acty on the band.
> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothi=
ng
> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
> de G3KEV
>
>
>
>




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Hello LF,

prompted by Alan Melia I've just done a bit of research into the 
distance worked last night in my QSO with Peter G3LDO. 

My geography of the south of England is poor... he told me his QTH was 
"nr Worthing" but I didn't think this would be so far away! Peter was 
unable to give an IARU locator last night but a quick visit to QRZ.COM 
and www.nearby.org.uk gives me a rought estimate of IO90ST


QRB/QTE software gives the distance as 1052km / 644 miles

Previously my best DX was with Tom G3OLB at 1039km in August. This new 
QSO with Peter 'LDO pushes me about as far as I can go until someone in 
Cornwall appears on the band!

Anyone know of suitable GU/GJ stations they can persuade to tool up for 
500?

Cheers,

John






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Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the 
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb 
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this 
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .






----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
>>
>> Gary.
>>
>>
> Here you are Graham and the LF group
>
>
> g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n
>
>
>
> error free!
>
> I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
> into/below the noise.
>
>
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>
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don't will be able to hold out till the start of December.

to the 107's anniversary of Marconi's first transatlantic-)=20



Congratulation's!



10.10.07, 10:29, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk):



> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:24 +0000

> Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> > Hello all,

> >=20

> > I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest

> > to some of you 500khz folks.

> Hi Vernon. LF,

> This is fantastic news and might be a great source of encouragement to

> the 500kHz experimenters here in the UK.

> > GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.

> > Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish

> > DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.

> >

> I'm really amazed at this report. I know Finbar, from participating in

> the 500kHz experiment and I'm sure he'll be very glad of the report.

> > Receiver - R75

> > Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire

> > N/S Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center

> > Software - Spectran / Argo

> You forgot to list "Golden Ears"

> > I will keep watching for others as conditions improve

> Thanks Vernon! I certainly would love to hear a report from you. My

> path might be a bit more difficult than Finbar's as I'm bit furhter

> north, but I'm willing to give it a go!

> Well done both stations.

> Regards,

> John GM4SLV

> Clousta, Shetland

> IP90gg



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Thank-you for monitoring Jean-Pierre.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Nil
>
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>
> 73 J-P f1afj
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>QST has become a umm Fluffy rag

...you mean that your getting tired of the "How To Build a Dipole" and the
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Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,
GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ. G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz
upwards overnight.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on
505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.

73
Hartmut
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Glad I'm not the only one still waiting!!
Thought 'the colonies' QTH may have had something to do with it--  
perhaps not....
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> Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !
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Hi All,

If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
502.5 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00

Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  1.5 Khz

mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,

Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...

**** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***

Tnx

Graham

G0NBD
IO83LK 




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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:08:32 +0100 (BST)
Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really
> renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. 

Hi Pete,

Fancy a CW QSO on 502.5 later this evening as a rest from all the
beaconing stations? 

To be honest I don't suffer any QRM from any station even if they do
beacon non-stop as my nearest is still over 500km away. I'd rather
there were some signals on the band at all times, beacons or otherwise,
instead of silence!

No-one can be sitting at the key 24/7 but as long as those who beacon
also have a go at trying to work people when thay can manage it I see
nothing wrong with it.

As for people calling CQ and getting no reply, I've lost count of the
times I've heard  stations calling CQ during the day - at often
900km+ distances, and yet they have totally failed to hear my replies.

Just my 2d worth.

I should be available from 11pm BST. Dust off the key! See you on the
band.

John GM4SLV
IP90gg,
Clousta, Shetland



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Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole=20=
Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radco=
m onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical=20=
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I had good QRSS3 copy of DI2AM tonight on 505.182 kHz at 0207 UTC.

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Jean-Pierre,

     WD2XGJ is back on 137.7798. Report received from Laurence mobile in the U.K.

I can put a signal on 187 kHz with my other LF license WE2XEB if that would be helpful to your experiments.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 



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At 14.50 25/10/2007, Oliver wrote:

>...
>- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
>project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you at
>10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
>- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since they

I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical content.
I'm preparing my first article to be sent to RadCom. It will be on a comparison
between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in particular, plus some comments
on the difficulties of specifying and testing SDR designs).
It took me about 30 hours to do the measurement work, get the data, 
think about it,
review the data, write the article, sending to a few friends for 
review, correcting it,
adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construction article, 
only a test
on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that the SDR is a whole new world
for ham radio, so I did the effort. Some enthusiasm is needed, HI.

73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF



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And dont forget the latest version of the J pole for working
those repeaters

HAR

Bob K3DJC

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:56:37 -0700 "Steve McDonald" <jsm@gulfislands.com>
writes:
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> >QST has become a umm Fluffy rag
> 
> ...you mean that your getting tired of the "How To Build a Dipole" 
> and the
> "You Too Can Have a Shack-On-Your-Back" article every month??
> 
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> Steve / VE7SL
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Hello LF,

After much delay I've finally got round to updating my grabber so that 
it is actually contained in a page that automatically refreshes itself. 
Now you no longer need to hit "reload" every 5 minutes to get a new pic!

The URL is

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

I'll set the refresh period to 5 minutes, to tie in with the period of 
the grabs themselves.

Let me know if it does/doesn't work for you all.

Cheers,

John GMSLV



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Again, very beautiful early signals from UK on 500.

16.43z G3KEV calling X-band CQ on 502.5kHz at S0.5 over noise, a perfect eas=
y
copy. QSX announced for 3533 and 7033kHz. Sadly it is not possible for me to
reply on either QRG as my only wire-antenna span is in use for RX on 500.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hello,
very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get
access?
=20
many thanks
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

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Thank you Andy.
=20
I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat
reduced recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current
edition and found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for
the wake up call.
There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when
technical articles were backed up and you had to wait months for
something to appear. I wonder if that is still the case but that they
are just not being published?
Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an
individual and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone
wishing to give 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.

1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering
but without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several
weeks and a binocular microscope to build it.
2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key
components for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
=20
This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG
and Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
comercial equipment exists.
Of course, something working against this process at present is that
500kHz is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to
March 2008.
Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
definable?
Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
=20
Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
03/08.
=20
So many things to do, so little time.
=20
73
=20
David  G0MRF
=20
In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
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    How about writing a few letters to the editor about the
appalling
    tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
   =20
    Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the
comic
    is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB
Mafia,
    sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the
magazine
    were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
    Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
   =20
    Andy  G4JNT
   =20

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G=20
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<DIV>Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be=20
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<DIV>Standalone CW TX ?&nbsp;&nbsp; Transmit converter from HF?&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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=20
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oute=20
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GB=20
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sp;=20
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Many replies, mostly private to my recent comments, too numerous for
individual comments.
Opinions are diverse but useful to judge 500 khz thinking. This informaton
could be useful to Ofcom for 500 khz forward planning.
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~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Try searching under "envelope elimination restoration" or "Kahn modulation
transmitter" - should get you several hundred thousand hits, but I haven't
yet found a good general reference. I think a large proportion of modern big
broadcast TXs use this technique to get high efficiency, and there is much
current intrest for on-chip PAs in personal wireless digi-widgets of various
kinds, but there is relatively little amateur-type material about this type
of technique - amateurs generally seem to have rather fallen behind the
times in TX hardware.

There is a lot made of the intricacies of getting good linearity in this
type of system, but with quite low carrier frequencies, and narrow
modulation bandwidths, most of the difficulties are greatly reduced. I used
a similar but bigger system on 136k a few years ago to get 1.2kW of PSK31
and "Wolf" BPSK - the 500kHz rig is intended to be a test-bed for a more
versatile version.

DF6NM's chirped-hell mode has both amplitude and phase modulation, so it is
definitely a "linear" mode. As in Hartmut's screen shot (thanks, Hartmut !),
it produces intelligible characters directly on the spectrogram screen. As
such, it isn't really a keyboard to keyboard mode - operating is similar to
QRSS, at similar "slow" speed. But the EER rig should work with pretty much
any digital mode - so far I have only tried it with PSK31 because that's
what is on my PC at the moment. I was wondering what modes people were
trying / thinking of trying, so that I could get hold of the neccessary
software and figure out how to work it!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> ? Is this a keyboard-keyboard mode ? is it linea or 'fsk'
>
> EER Transverter , not seeing anything on google, is there a link for it ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>



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Graham, LF,

I got your sigs down to noise level by using my 4 M vertical & attenuator, I
could only barely hear the tones & print was still 100%.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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> Ok Gary,
>
> Thats the full 'tape ... can you reduce the rx signal, see when it stops 
> printing ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..



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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:24:01 +0300
phl@netikka.fi wrote:

> 19.13UTC: Just received G3XIZ at S0.5 over noise replying to M0FMT on
> 502.5kHz.
> 
> No copy of M0FMT
> 
> Just before this GM4SLV at S1 over noise was calling CQ on the QRG.
> 
> 
> Keep up the good signals over there in UK!


Hi Paul-Henrik,

Yes I hear Chris G3XIZ Q3 in QRN noise. No trace of M0FMT here either -
audibly or visually!

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It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
etc, it is not necessry.
73 G3KEV




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Late report - Graham - It was also good audible copy here on the Derbyshire/=
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John,
Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, when
located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will be
fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
or less.
I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me in
the past.

MalG3KEV


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Thank you everyone for your observations.

Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in
particular to 87-90kHz):

"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations
suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would
increase by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the
same amount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about
5dB.

How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the
strength of other LORAN transmission."

Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:

>Dear Gary, LF,
>
>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>
>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Hi Mal, LF,
>
>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>ones.
>
>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>in
>noise.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
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>
>
>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>500
>> etc, it is not necessry.
>> 73 G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>








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Hello OM's

i send you a big >Thank you<  from Arnim DL1EIE for the incoming reports!
He will improve  the transmitter and antenna system for more tests in 
future, but i think  for "first qrss" tests  it is ok :)

many thanks,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


Karl-Heinz Gansel schrieb:
> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to 
> the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
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Hello LFers and Lowfers,

I have a screenshot of the "Stations by Freq" listing that is on the
500 kHz. website which was taken some months ago.  It is very
different from the one found today, in that the increments are of
0.25 Hz. step rather than 1 Hz.  To further complicate things, it
mentions just below the current listing that the steps are in 0.25
Hz. increments.  My question is, "Which one is correct?"

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Rtty ... 502 khz  85  hz shift , 45 baud=20

Any copy ?=20

G ..=20

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Johan H. Bodin a =E9crit :
> <
<snip>
> The swedish ham magazine QTC seems to be following the same trend.=20
> Technical articles are beeing replaced by mega-multi-button=20
> advertisments and quantity seems to go before quality... Some ad's=20
> disguised as "reviews"=20
<snip>

Hi all

As a member of the team checking the quality of any article submitted to=20
our french Radio-REF journal before publishing, may I tell you that the=20
situation is the same in France ?
Our team is trying to avoid any publication of  mega-multi-button=20
advertisments disguised as "review", but it happens that such bullshit=20
is published from time to time, because the Editor has to (for financial=20
reasons, or only to have something to publish, or both ?)
The real issue is that we, as a national ham association, don't receive=20
any serious technical stuff anymore.
The remaining very rare really technical articles are published nowadays=20
in commercial revues (where the authors are paid for that, which is not=20
the case for our non benefit journal), or in "high tech" journals  such=20
as QEX, VHF Comms, DUBUS, etc
Volonteers belong more and more to endangered species ...

Jean-Louis F6AGR
REF-Union member for more than  40 years
Grandson of REF-416 (He joined REF in 1925)




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Chris, LF,

RTTY signal appeared and this time I got:-


LX3XIZ G3XITLUZ K


Must be you Chris!

Perhaps longer calls might help people get a fix on you?

CHeers,

John


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Hello LF,

Hearing G3VTT calling CQ, RST539 on a nice quiet band. 

Unfortunately I can't reply, as my TX antenna is in a state of
disrepair, as of yesterday morning. Until I can get enough time, in
calm conditions and daylight, to fix it I'll be RX only!

Still, nice signal Colin.

Cheers,


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Hi Gus
Sorry, see my second message
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

Gus wrote:

> Privet Dmitrij!
>
> Po ukazannomu linku neimeetsja nikakoi grabber.... toljko strannostji 
> i reklama s jandeksa...
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry" <ra3yo@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:31 PM
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>
>
>> Hi LF
>>
>> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
>>
>> http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html
>>
>> Dmitry
>> RA3YO
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>



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Hi Graham!

not sure about your signal.

I copy carrier with data on the 503.250

looked into my spectran in qrss3.

Look here:

http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/503.25/503.25.jpg

Roman



16.10.07, 02:53, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,

> I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest 

> version

> Thanks for the reports,

> Graham ..

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:32 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: MODE CHANGE -- AMTOR-FEC 85 HZ SHIFT .. 503.3 CENTER

> > On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100

> > "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Multpsk

> >>

> >> Amtor set -

> >> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx

> >> mode

> >>

> >> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170

> >> - 200-

> >>

> >> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center

> >> over data stream

> >

> >

> > I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz

> > shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz

> > option...it isn't there!

> >

> >

> > I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day

> > for you. I must QRT now for bed!

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > John

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- 

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 

> > 10/15/2007 06:48

> >

> > 



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Joe,

I'd make the frequency as a little higher than that, about 187.37043, 
according to the attached shot from this morning.

John A.

Joe Craig wrote:
> After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
> oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
> AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 = 187.3702(8625) kHz.
> The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.

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Andy

Virgin AM has a local transmitter at Fareham. Its only 1kw, but it puts 
in a very strong signal around the area. Have monitored it using a 
remote receiver at Gosport.

Regards

Tony VK2IC

Andy Talbot wrote:
> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
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Andy,

   I would like to try JT-2 again on 500kHz . I think my first failure may be due to failing to synchronize the PC clocks.
Basic question as I'm unfamiliar with the software:

I am assuming that the way you transmit is by filling in the text boxes in the lower right of the screen next to Tx1 - Tx6 - and then press the corresponding button tx1...tx6 ?

Joe K1JT is probably in receiving range of my 500kHz signal - do you have a contact e-mail for him?



--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> 
>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 



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Heard last night from the car
GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noise
G3KEV 30dB above
GI4DPE 5-25dB above
GI3PDN 5-10 above
G3VTT 5-10 above
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<BR>Heard last night from the car<BR>
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Off topic, sorry...

   Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the interconnecting cable between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter 
and the accompanying PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar to the Centronics connector at the printer 
end of a parallel printer cable, only with a smaller number of pins (24 I think).

Thanks for any info

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Multpsk
> 
> Amtor set -
> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
> mode
> 
> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
> - 200-
> 
> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
> over data stream


I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
option...it isn't there!


I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
for you. I must QRT now for bed!

Cheers,

John


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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Ken Wright wrote:

> Hello all LF's
> 
>  
> 
> Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
> this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.
> 

Congratulations Ken and welcome aboard!

Yes the end date is 29th Feb for us all, unless (fingers, toes and 
everything else crossed) we can get an extension (and power increase?).

You've got on just at the right time, with autumn/winter conditions 
starting, the nights drawing in and the window of suitable propagation 
increasing day by day.

What are you thinking of using as TX, RX and antenna? Modes? 

Have you heard any signals yet on the band? You're in Luton so there 
should be plenty of local signals for you to hear/work. I'm a bit ore 
remote - up in Shetland! - so have to struggle to hear/be heard.

Best of luck
Please feel free to ask as many questions as you want, it's a steep 
learning curve down on 500, but great fun if you like getting your hands 
dirty and your soldering iron hot!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland, IP90gg

- webpages (new) showing my ramshackle setup at 
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:16:26 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> was it showing at birmingham ? or shetland ?

Some RTTY was visible and audible here, both last night and this
evening. Didn't manage to get it decoded.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
Shetland


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Thank you for that Dave,

Changing mode to  amtor  - fec  85 hz shift , 503.3 center freq

Tnx

Graham ..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: RE: [500] Re: Olivia data test


> Just got a bit more....
>
> " G0nbd g0nbd  q1l  g0nbd@hotmaitAom cqcqcq test g0nds?@ "
>
> Dave G3WCB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 15 October 2007 22:59
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: [500] Re: Olivia data test
>
>
> Well,
>
> I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
> large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that 
> may
> be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during 
> QSB
> peaks.
>
> " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 October 2007 22:37
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>
>
> Thanks for that John,
>
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of 
> the
> 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
> period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on 
> this
> band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




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Yes, his post address.

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> info  is on qrz.com ?
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:39 PM
> Subject: LF: Just received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ on 502.0kHz
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>
> LF Hello!
>
> Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z
>
> Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500k=
Hz
> operator list I have.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> KP03SD
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Hello YLs and OMs,

due to maintenance and repair work DI2BO on 505,015 kHz will be off until
beginning of November 2007.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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In southern Germany, eastern Bavaria, at JN68GN, GI3PDN became audible
at 21.55 UTC on 501,5 kHz. Not found again after 23.00 UTC. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

"Karl-Heinz Gansel" <softrock@dl6ebs.de> schrieb:
> Hello all,
> 
> i heard gi3pdn  20:05 - 20:10 UTC  on 502khz.  He is audible and has 
> some qsb.
> 
> LOC:  JO31HS
> RX: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
> Ant:  14m high MiniWHIP with OP27
> 
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
> 
>  
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> 



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Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB
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-REPOTS WELCOM
THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON
 THE LA
Y DOG
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Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB<br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>-REPOTS WELCOM<br>THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON<br>&nbsp;THE LA
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<br>Using MMTY 1.65D, ICOM 706 MKII and 9 metre vertical.<br><br>Signal level about S4<br><br>Chris<br>G3XVL<br><br>

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Stopped listening ! nothing here .

73 f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello Ed ,
> i listening in 137.7~
> 73 qro J-P f1afj
>
> dl2hre a =E9crit :
>> Ga LF.
>> =20
>> testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
>> most welcome.
>> =20
>> Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
>

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....and certainly the new rev of software for the SDR IQ 2.31 is a big impro=
vement - I love the NCo carrier null which was my biggest issue beyond IM/XM=
. Now if they can only automate the carrier null into software so I dont hav=
e to push the button and improve the temp freq compensation it would make me=
 really broadly smile, and turn off the AGC on SSB....
=20
....the R75 still is the winner but its getting closer when you consider the=
 pros and cons of being frogmarched and interrogated by N unnamed agencies (=
again) at some unnamed international airport, versus carrying a small pc boa=
rd wiv an USB port and a BNC plug on it..
=20
Its a long story.
=20
:-)
=20
Laurence 9V1LF
=20
snip=20
=20
> I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical conten=
t.> I'm preparing my first article to be sent to RadCom. It will be on a com=
parison> between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in particular, plus some=20=
comments> on the difficulties of specifying and testing SDR designs).> It to=
ok me about 30 hours to do the measurement work, get the data, > think about=
 it,> review the data, write the article, sending to a few friends for > rev=
iew, correcting it,> adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construc=
tion article, > only a test> on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that t=
he SDR is a whole new world> for ham radio, so I did the effort. Some enthus=
iasm is needed, HI.> > 73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF> >=20
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....and certainly the new rev of software for the SDR IQ 2.31 is a big impro=
vement - I love the NCo carrier null which was my biggest issue beyond IM/XM=
. Now if they can only automate the carrier null into software so I dont hav=
e to push the button and improve the temp freq compensation it would make me=
 really broadly smile, and turn off the AGC on SSB....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
....the R75 still is the winner but its getting closer when you consider the=
 pros and cons of being&nbsp;frogmarched and interrogated by N unnamed agenc=
ies&nbsp;(again) at some unnamed international airport, versus carrying&nbsp=
;a small pc board wiv an USB port and a BNC plug on it..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its a long story.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
:-)<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>
snip <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical con=
tent.<BR>&gt; I'm preparing my first article to be sent to RadCom. It will b=
e on a comparison<BR>&gt; between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in parti=
cular, plus some comments<BR>&gt; on the difficulties of specifying and test=
ing SDR designs).<BR>&gt; It took me about 30 hours to do the measurement wo=
rk, get the data, <BR>&gt; think about it,<BR>&gt; review the data, write th=
e article, sending to a few friends for <BR>&gt; review, correcting it,<BR>&=
gt; adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construction article, <BR=
>&gt; only a test<BR>&gt; on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that the=20=
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Copied 2 "N"s last night. Faint traces were visible until 05:00.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm


73
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Hallo Piotr!
You are welcome on LF reflector!=20
Be successful with building your LF RIG and have a lot of nice hours on
LF and MW interesting bands.

Lubos, OK2BVG

*************************************************************


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Piotr M=B3ynarski
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Subject: LF: 137 KHz my first post=20

Hello  Gentlemen,
this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am=20
finishing ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz=20
already, i have built from the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing

peripherial hardware  for the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
 and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a=20
successful qso with some  of you  some day
very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming =20
weeks...

=20

73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs


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On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.

Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at 
the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been 
at rock bottom for weeks on end?

Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A 
index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is 
currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.

But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening 
all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys 
playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in 
the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.

What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do 
with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to 
produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art 
(and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).

By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night 
but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far. 
Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep 
QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray 
at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting 
500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).

Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band 
configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if 
we still have NOVs.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hallo Alberto!
>=20
> Thanks for your report of beacon OK0EMW. I am glad to receive your=20
> e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SDR receiver:
>=20
> Selective preamplifier with two tubes (+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise=20
> -110dB) >>>SDRadio home made >>>PC with two sound cards and software=20
> WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have got an other receivers for low bands as well,=20
> but this configuration is doing the very well. I have tested some=20
> softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best for my experiments on 500kH=
z.

  Hello Lubos,

    congratulations for your SDR implementation ! Tubes are still alive, I s=
ee ! And thanks for the nice words about=20
Winrad. Version 1.30 will be ready in a month or so, and it will have a bett=
er support for Perseus.
>=20
> New SDR Perseus seems very interesting. Sorry, but I think that software=20
> for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other SDR, for example SDR-IQ. I=20
> will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.

No sorry. That software will work only with the Perseus hardware. But the SD=
R-IQ is a good receiver too, I have one.
>=20
> GL on 500kHz!  I am sure, you will produce as good softwares as WinRad=20
> is in the future.

Thanks, and good luck to you too with your beacon and experiments !
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>=20
73  Alberto  I2PHD


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I'm sorry Chris, I was a bit angry but I did not intend to upset anyone. 
Anyway, these ad's are driving me mad... Isn't it possible to at least 
put them all at the end of the magazine? ;-)

On the other hand, the technical contents in Radcom is still much better 
than in the swedish "QTC" which only has occasional technical articles 
and these are usually of the "how to make a wire dipole" class...

To Dave ZL3FJ: Radcom arrived here in SM Friday last week. You may be a 
victim of high-tech export restrictions! ;-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


Chris Trayner skrev:
> Dear Johan,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email.
> 
>> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
> orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...
> 
> Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.
> 
> Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the advertisers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless it paid for the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.
> 
> I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive without the ads.
> 
> 
>> Some ad's 
> disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive 
> comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic 
> gadget..".
> 
> This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they don't want to alienate their advertisers.
> 
> I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent. Others are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets, which said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread. Having read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many faults which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of uncritical review loses respect for the magazine.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Chris Trayner G4OKW
> 


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GI3PDN

Calling , cq, 502.5 ,   rst 559 wallasey io83lk ,  no tx at moment . 

Graham . 





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Hi Frank!

>Hi LF,

>I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.

>If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.

>Frank.



RN3AGC in Moscow was copy artifacts of your signal!

Look shot.

He said if you use a QRSS60/120 we are copy well your station in Moscow.

I did't copy you this moment.





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Many thanks Brian,

It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!

73 Chris XIZ

brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Peter & Chris - 
   
  100 % copy of the RTTY ex G3XIZ here in Watford
   
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Many thanks Brian,<br><br>It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!<br><br>73 Chris XIZ<br><br><b><i>brian hodgson &lt;g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div>Peter &amp; Chris - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>100 % copy of the RTTY ex G3XIZ here in Watford</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian - G3YKB</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div><br><br>&nbsp;</div><div>        </div><hr size="1">  Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. <a href="http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU">Try it now</a>.</blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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Hello Mal,
Just replied to your CQ  (approx 16.40 BST ) on 502.5  You obviously did not
hear me. 529 on peaks

73

Mike  GW4HXO.
------------------------------------------------------------------

LF: MF ACTIVITY

Many replies, mostly private to my recent comments, too numerous for
individual comments.
Opinions are diverse but useful to judge 500 khz thinking. This informaton
could be useful to Ofcom for 500 khz forward planning.
Keep your comments coming in.

G3KEV



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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 21:50=>03:30  WD2XGJ
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Hello all,

i heard gi3pdn  20:05 - 20:10 UTC  on 502khz.  He is audible and has 
some qsb.

LOC:  JO31HS
RX: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Ant:  14m high MiniWHIP with OP27

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS

 


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.... FREQ    === 503 KHZ====

Slight miss , type , carrier running , 503 at moment ,


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> Hi All,
>
> If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
> 503.0 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00
>
> Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  2 Khz
>
> mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,
>
> Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
> indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...
>
> **** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham
>
> G0NBD
> IO83LK
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>
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> 




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Copy GM4SLV, beacon , speaker copy , using the ft897d , with pre-amp off , 
ok its not the best lf/rx but i recon thats a good sig ,,

G .. 




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John, LF,

you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/

If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM 
(W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much 
about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in 
RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the 
legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder 
melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM

John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of 
> SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?



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Hi John and group,

It seems the drift is under control from the shot. The
freq. was scaled back and should be within 50 mHz of
c/1600.  Thank-you very much for the capture and the
frequency check, John.

73
Joe

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, John Andrews wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I'd make the frequency as a little higher than that, about 187.37043,
> according to the attached shot from this morning.
>
> John A.


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Hi Gary!



Now I copy G4OLI in qso WB3YNG on 18130 very well!

Are you use a 14 & 18 MHz?



My last email about 505.743 kHz is not actual.

I check in QRSS-3 this is a QRM localy.



73!

Roman



07.10.07, 22:45, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi All at LF,

> Running RTTY beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz approx centre frequency.

> ERP - 100 mW

> 85 Hz shift

> 45 Baud

> The transmission will not be continuous as I have placed a 1 minute Rx bre=
ak=20

> in the sequence.

> Reports welcome.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp=20



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
WD2XGJ       (good moment : 04:00 => 05:00)

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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I should perhaps have mentioned this happened in Vaasa, Finland, KP03SD


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ



Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> LF
>
> Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise a=
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> key to grab here...
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Hi Andy,


> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?


Just had a short look at www.emwg.info and found the following info:

G - Virgin 1215, various (0.004-200) - 24h; txs in Dartford Tunnel (0.004), Hull (0.320), Fareham (1), Lanner (Redruth) (2), Plymouth (1.1), Postwick (1.2), Wrekenton (2.2), Redmoss (2.3), Lisnagarvey (16), Washford (100), Westerglen (100), Brookmans Park (125), Droitwich (105) and Moorside Edge (200 kW)

So there's plenty of tx locations around.



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that looks close

QTH locator : JO02KU , type  that into  the qra locator link at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/usefull-links-kinks

the post  code may not be quite right as google map could not find it , but 
but nr21 area is given as 'fakenham'  (you could not make it up !) , which 
looks a ideal location for 500 ! ,

G ..




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Yes, his post address.

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> info  is on qrz.com ?
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> LF Hello!
>
> Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z
>
> Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 
> 500kHz
> operator list I have.
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> 73's
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Zitat von hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> Dear all,
>
> after reading this below about the improving autumn winter conditions I
> also decided to give it a try, and around midnight UTC 3rd to 4th of
> October 2007 I received the GI4DPE beacon on
> (about) 501,4 kHz audible up to 449 in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria, Germany.
>
>

Hello Hajo and all,
here in jo43sv GI4DPE was 579 at 2120UTC.
regards
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Hi Joe ,
I listening tonight
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>
> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  sta=
rt
>> beaconing ?
>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kH=
z 1
>> MW,
>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>
>>
>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>
>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
> 
> Gary.
> 

It's decoding too - I'll send the text when I've got some more decoded.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSK08 this=
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Chris, LF

Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not
making it down in daylight.

Roll on winter...

John GM4SLV


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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> I thought your figures looked a bit odd, and intuitively Tom should 
> be further. I put the figures into G0GJV's Minos VHF logger:

Thanks Dave!

I initially assumed myself that no-one would be further than Tom and 
checked my log-book entry. I had IO80IU correctly noted, along with 
"1039km". Not sure where I got the 1039km from now!

Checking with QRB/QTE gives me 1052.774km / 654.176 miles

Checking Peter G3LDO's estimated IO90ST gives  1052.976 / 654.289 miles

Peter's still best DX, by 200m!

Cross checking with "WinGrid" gives Tom IO80IU = 655.3 miles and Peter's 
IO90ST = 655.5 miles. (WinGrid is American and only speaks 'miles').

Looks like there are some differences in the maths between the 3 progs 
we've used. 

Don't know what I used initially to work out Tom's 1039km...but it was 
evidently wrong! Must have been my slide rule?!

> 
> GM4SLV    IP90GG
> to:
> G3OLB      IO80IU    1054km   187deg
> G3LDO      IO90ST   1054km   176deg
> 
> and for reference:
> G3YMC     IO91PJ   988km     177deg


Regards and thanks.

John
GM4SLV



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Hi All at LF,

Running RTTY beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz approx centre frequency.

ERP - 100 mW
85 Hz shift
45 Baud

The transmission will not be continuous as I have placed a 1 minute Rx break 
in the sequence.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Apologies to the group.  This was intended for J-P.
Joe

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Joe Craig wrote:

> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thank-you for sending the synthesiser.  I will be
> happy when it arrives.  The photos and instructions
> have been received, but I am not sure how to code
> it. For example, in the XLS file is: Divide by: 9678/
> Frequency 187.374/  VCO 5995.956. How do we program
> the divide by 9678?
>
> Hopefully you will see the signals in the near future.
>
> Merci beaucoup.
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
> > Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> > Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> > it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> > sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> > so that I can bring it into service.
> > The captures of night are at :
> > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> > 73 J-P f1afj
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
has been improved by the latest changes and this should
improve your chances of reception.

Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
Joe

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
> The captures of night are at :
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> 73 J-P f1afj
>

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tnx for listening on my signal Jean-Pierre. may be the direction is not good=
=20
for your QTH, or bad time. Ruda OK1DTN was cpy my signal, but smal distance.

73 GL Ed
----- Original Message -----=20
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Stopped listening ! nothing here .

73 f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello Ed ,
> i listening in 137.7~
> 73 qro J-P f1afj
>
> dl2hre a =E9crit :
>> Ga LF.
>>  testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
>> most welcome.
>>  Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
>

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LF,

I should have wrote :-

all the other traces are NOT normally there.

Gary - G4WGT

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Mal, LF,
>
> You wrote earlier today :-
>
>> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after
>> dark.
>
> I ran SpecLab as usual & I an receiving lots of lines/signals which are
> never there. In the lower part of the band I usually only see a line just
> over 501.900 KHz (that is the very strong line in the capture) all the 
> other
> traces are normally there.
>
> I can't tell if it is conditions or something local.
>
> Any comments welcome please.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:35 PM
> Subject: LF: 160 mf
>
>
>> Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
>> afternoon here in bright sunshine.
>> Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
>> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after
>> dark.
>> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
> 



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Oops! I forgot to past the link:

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Hi LF

Start graber: 
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I dearly love subscribing to this list, absent the periodic "harrumps" 
from those insisting that most of us are well down the road to perdition.

Anyway, please allow a suggestion. I recall nothing in our regulations 
over here that amateur contacts must arise from a chance meeting of 
operators at the same time on the same frequency under conditions that 
would support a QSO. Assuming the same is true on the other other side 
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should at least encourage listening or even on-air participation by 
others. Coordination could easily be handled on this mail list.

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:40:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at
> 503.000khz ????
> 
> ******************************
> 1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
> ******************************
> 


Thanks Gary for at least decoding some of it. I have seen and heard it
up here too but it never lasts long enough to see if I can decode it
myself.

Cheers,

John


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Ok John,

Thanks for looking, my tx wil be on for 20 minuts, than I go to my bed.

Frank.

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> Frank,
>
> I am seeing a keyed carrier on 136.3205 at 2315 UTC. I will keep watching.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG  FN42ch
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> 



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Oliver,

It is not just radio.  Other enthusiast-based publications have the same pro=
blem getting suitable material.  I have noticed this with caving as well.  W=
e ended up with Speleonics for the general caver, the CREG Journal for those=
 with a technical bent and another specialist journal aimed at cave surveyor=
s.  The editor of the newsletter for my old radio club in the UK has the sam=
e problem every quarter.

Having been the editor for CREGJ, and still being on the editorial team, I a=
m well aware of the difficulties.  One approach we have used is to get a pro=
spective author to provide notes and sketches on what he or she has done and=
 then do a rewrite.  As Andy suggested, once you get into this area of journ=
alism it can be quite habit-forming.

One of our most successful contributors for several years was Jean-Jacques F=
auchez, F6IDE (SK) who was very good technically but was not at home with te=
chnical English.  He would draft things in French and my XYL and I would the=
n translate them into English.

The other thing that puts people off (and I have mentioned this in a respons=
e to something Mal wrote) is that they worry about the typographical aspects=
 and diagram standards.  Most journals I have dealt with will sort out the l=
ayout and typeface matters anyway and they will normally redraw your diagram=
s to their house style.  You therefore do not have to worry, as an author, a=
bout such things.

John F5VLF/G3PAI
Commissioning Editor, Cave Radio & Electronics Group Journal
British Cave Research Association

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On 25/10/2007 at 14:28 Dr. Oliver Welp wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I don't read RADCOM, but in Germany, we basicly have the same problem. I
>would
>love to see more projects etc. in the ham radio magazines, but when
>talking to
>the publishers, there usually is one basic problem: nobody submits
>technical
>articles. (anyway, they have lots of non-technical articles on stock)
>
>I can only guess but these might be some of the reasons:
>
>- Hams who are good technicians often are no good writers or simply not
>interested in writing.
>- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
>project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you
>at
>10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
>- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since
>they
>think they are excellent enough for doing so.
>
>You probably can ask every ham radio magazine and offer to submit a=20
>_technical_
>article, and they will love you for that. Might be the same in Germany
>than in
>UK.
>
>73, Oliver
>(DL9QJ, N3NSF)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Mal, LF,
>>
>> You wrote :-
>>
>>> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and
>antenna
>>> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>>> Does anyone else have an opinion.
>>
>> Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be=20
>> submitting ideas & articles to the RadCom team.
>>
>> I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they=20
>> don't know the stuff is there how can they print it ??
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--=20
>[Dr. Oliver Welp
>welp@muenster.de]






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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:18:47 -0000
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> 
> Just trying to get myself sorted out for this crossband stuff. 


Hello LF, Dave & Mike

A pile up! I was waiting to pounce on Mike G3YPE after Brian finished
and F6BWO nabbed the QRG!

I QSYd to 501.5 and 3530 and had a succesful x-band QSO - thanks Mike!

This x-band stuff is real radio! I use my K2 and a PA0RDT active
"mini-whip" for RX on 80m and the seperate 500khz TX and antenna for
transmit. Unfortunately there's lots of headphone plugging/unplugging
to follow both halfs of an ongoing x-band QSO so as to know when to
call/tail end etc!

Great fun.

I had a question posed by a DL station about the legality of working us
- since we're outside the normal "amateur service". My opinion is it's
fine. I've asked John Gould for the official line but intend to
continue with it as it helps my "research" to work and get reports from
as many stations, as far away, as possible.

Cheers,

John



-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Hello Mal ,
Here with 300km of =93LORAN-C of Lessay=94 +5 dB compared to the average!=20
but is this propagation or the increase in the power of Loran? I do not=20
know! see capture .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

hamilton mal a =E9crit :
> It looks like the new Loran has started and the qrm is vy strong on 137 kh=
z.
> Has anyone else noticed this?
> Mal/G3KEV
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Dear Gary, Graham, LF Group

Thanks for the screen shots of the Chirped Hell sigs. The "speed" used
during the tests was intended to be viewed with the same spectrogram
settings as QRSS 3

I will be out this evening, but will try some more tests tomorrow. I have
PSK31 working on my shack PC at the moment, plus I have downloaded some RTTY
software which will hopefully be working by then. I'm open to suggestions as
to what sort of tests to do.

BTW Graham - for your preset pots, Farnell part number 452 610 looks like
the right thing.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Ok Joe , i listening tonight .
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
> oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
> AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 =3D 187.3702(8625) kHz.
> The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.
> Unfortunately the freq. counter can no longer be used to
> monitor drift!
>
> QRSS240 (+-) starting 1800 utc today until 20 Oct.
>
> Reports are always welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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On 17 Oct 2007 16:15 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> last night your and Finbar's signals were not as clear as the night
> before, but I guess we will have to live with such variations until
> (hopefully) You will be allowed more ERP.
> 
> I will continue to observe the 500 kHz band, although not report every
> day. 
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 
> 


Thanks again Ha-Jo.

Conditions seemed quite good last night, several good QSOs were held.
Things are still very variable though. Perhaps with more ERP we will
be able to reach even more listeners, who may not have well optimized
antenna systems for this band.

Thanks again for the reports,

John 
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:51:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!
> 
> or some of it.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 

It may be apocryphal, but there was a story around the BBC TX training
centre when I was there of someone very close to Droitwich who did just
that, and got caught. Can't quite be sure what his crime was, but the
story goes that there was a hole in the radiation pattern caused by his
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?

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 Jim,

> I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
> any reports welcome.

again nice copy here. Screenshot attached.

73
Hartmut
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Good T/A conditions on 500kHz are back. Copied WD2XSH/6 and WD2XSH/17
in QRSS3.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hi Vern, attachments are accepted on the LF Group reflector but need to be
limited to a total message size of around 32kB...maybe it was just too big.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vernon Matheson" <vmath@eastlink.ca>
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Subject: LF: Posting Question


>
> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a
> small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come back...will
this
> list only accept text messages and block any type of attachments.
>
> Vern - VE1VDM
>



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Hi all
   
  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.   20:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-) 
   
  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "
   
  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....
   
  Pete FMT vy 73
  
Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi LF,

I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
????

******************************
1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
******************************

I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
know in there - M0FMT ???

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" 
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>
>> Its not Me !
>
> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>
> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>
> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 




       
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<div>Hi all</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.&nbsp; &nbsp;20:30 onwards not my transmission however but&nbsp;I was involved.</div>  <div>You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......&nbsp;&nbsp; :-) </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>"TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Pete FMT vy
 73</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi LF,<BR><BR>I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz <BR>????<BR><BR>******************************<BR>1+J ACT M0FMT M&amp;2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &amp;3XIZSRFVVM7<BR>******************************<BR><BR>I received this line amongst lots of garbage &amp; there is a call sign we all <BR>know in there - M0FMT ???<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Sergeant" <DAVE@DAVESERGEANT.COM><BR>To: <RSGB_LF_GROUP@BLACKSHEEP.ORG><BR>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM<BR>Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY<BR><BR><BR>&gt; On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Its not Me !<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last
 night when I got the rig<BR>&gt; tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the<BR>&gt; frequency first (tongue in cheek...).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't<BR>&gt; hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 73 Dave G3YMC<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; http://www.davesergeant.com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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On 25 Oct 2007 at 12:10, Michael Probert wrote:

> However, it seems a rather poor take up of the privileged opportunity
> to operate on this interesting band. Excellent transmitter designs by
> M0MBU and GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but have
> not, as Mal G3KEV has said,  found their way into RADCOM. Possibly
> Dave G3YXM could bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who
> select construction and design articles. It is of course, a niche
> interest as are many others in amateur radio but regrettably, one is
> drawn to the conclusion that some UK amateurs are a bit tardy when it
> comes to having to build equipment. Re the availability of components,
> this is not really a problem.  The big boys Farnell, Radiocomponents
> and Rapid will now deal direct and the small suppliers that come to
> mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous others.
> 

The new edition of the Radio Communications Handbook (as advertised 
in RadCom) has a few designs for 500kHz gear, including my own 
transmitter. This shows that the interest in promoting it is there, 
maybe a bit more emphasis can be given in RadCom itself. But we 
already have Dave G3YXM's column, maybe this can be reworked to give 
it a rather wider appeal (not criticising of course Dave, and I know 
you have very limited space, but some issues it does come across as a 
minority appeal subject).

November RadCom together with QST arrived in this afternoon's post, 
still waiting for my Sprat...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:17:37 +0200
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> 
> 
> >
> > There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> > beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> > conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> > than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
> >
> Hello John,
> p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an
> amateur- station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
> gl and thanks for the grabber.
> Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv
> 

Yes this is also true Uwe. I don't think everyone in the UK realizes
that the DI and OK beacon stations are just that - beacons only, not
for 2-way communications.

Keep up the good work Uwe. It's great to have some signals to hear when
activity levels are low. 

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Hallo dl1eie

 

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Hello all,

Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN.
Then GW4HXO, with stronger signals, calling G3UNT.

As I see that xband QSO=B4s are taking place, I=B4ll try to prepare my anten=
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73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and=20
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Finally sorted ,

Dident find a  3386G  , ended up with a  skeliton version from 'rapid' ,=20
farnel have a counter charge of =A320 ....  rapid are now =A34-50  for order=
s=20
under =A320

Tnx for help.

Graham ..


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... looking for !!!


> So far no good ,
>
> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,=20
> value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5=20
> mm x 10 mm
>
> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find=20
> any amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there=
=20
> range now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the=20
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> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
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> Tnx - Graham ..
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Hi Andy
I know JT2 and JT4 was a coming but from wich program
73 Ko, NL9222


Andy Talbot wrote:
> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
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> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
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> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
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>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT











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Hello again Ken,

That sounds promising indeed. We're only 580 miles apart - easy DX!

What is your local noise level like. I'm finding that many stations in 
urban areas are greatly hampered by electronic hash which masks the weak 
CW signals we're restricted to.

I presume you intend to operate CW? There is a bit of RTTY/PSK31 and 
QRSS-3 on the band too.

I have a "grabber" running which gives a waterfall display of the band 
from 500 - 505.512kHz - enough for our allocation and the area occupied 
by the German, Swedish and Czech beacons. I wonder if you've heard or 
seen DI2AM at 505.2-ish? It is in QRSS-3 mode, with a real CW ident at 
regular intervals.

look at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg - 
manually refresh the page every 5 minutes ( I must get round to putting 
the grabber pic in a real page that automatically refreshes!)

 At present  there is a CW beacon on 501.316 kHz from Finbar GI4DPE, 
although in the daytime you might struggle to hear/see it. It's looking 
good on my grabber though.

I'm sure others nearby will be along to give you more help and to 
arrange skeds.


Our NoV end date is now only 5 months away, and it will be the best 5 
months propagation wise of the year. We need to get on and rattle those 
keys!

All the best,

John GM4SLV
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm




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Hello LF!

Copied G3XIZ and G3UNT Q3-Q5 in QSO on 502.0kHz 20071026 21.21z

G3UNT / JO01gg is new in my RX log. 1815km



73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Poor T/A conditions. No US stations copied.

A lot of activity from the UK. Copied G0MRF, G3KEV, G3VTT, G3XIZ,
GI3PDN, GI4DPE and GM4SLV.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:11:08 -0000
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:


> By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night 
> but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far. 
> Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep 
> QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray 
> at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting 
> 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).


Hello Dave & LF,


I have to concur that the Au probably wasn't helping things. Ray GI3PDN
was good but I suppose no better than he has been over the last week or
so. I worked G3UNT at last, after hearing him many times in full
daylight, which made me wonder about conditions. Along with 2 other new
ones I just wondered if this was a coincidence or connected with the
geomag conditions.

I didn't hear you calling, and was also watching the "full-band
waterfall" which is very handy for spotting the week ones calling off
frequency (eg if xtal controlled) - that's how I spotted 'LDO and 'PDN.

I went QRT immediately after working Ray. I figured 4 QSOs (3 of them
nes stations) was enough for one night!

Cheers,

John


-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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LF

Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise and
GW4HXO a Q3. Now G3KEV is CQ:ing away on 502.5kHz, still at S2 over noise. N=
o
key to grab here...


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Hello LF,

The range just keeps increasing!

Last evening I had the following cross-band QSOs:-

2115    DL2HRE  Ed, JO51TQ  Distance = 1249km
2126    F6CNI   Andy, JN19QB    Distance = 1283km

This morning I received a report from Ha-Jo DJ1ZB in JN68GN, distance =
1587km!


This band certainly throws up some surprises. I know Mal and others
have been working a lot more cross-band than me and I wonder if they'd
like to share the information of stations worked and distance achieved?

Regards,

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:

> Its not Me !

Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....

It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig 
tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the 
frequency first (tongue in cheek...).

By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't 
hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !
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Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !<br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Hi LF,

Another good night in progress.

Just had QSO in CW with Chris G3XIZ and a first QSO at long last with
Colin G3VTT. Fantastic to hear so much CW on the band...now off for
G3KEV...



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John GM4SLV
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> 
> G3KEV
> 
> 
Hi Mal

I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
read, so little time!

Cheers,

John


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Hello all LF's

 

Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
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73

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
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Hello Paul,

I did see your posting a little late.
There is also a JRC NRD-91 in the shack here.
A good performer at LF, once you have engaged the BC-band reject.
On QRSS I do it the same as Wolfgang suggested.
This works also very nice on aural CW.
Glad to hear it works for you.

To cheer you all up: conditions are very good.
Just heard a Russian NDB, 5500 km away on 497 kHz.

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Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and listening. I listen at times=
 for W stns but not visual, so far nil hrd.
73 mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Heard last night from the car
  GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noise
  G3KEV 30dB above
  GI4DPE 5-25dB above
  GI3PDN 5-10 above
  G3VTT 5-10 above
  =20
  and Later on XGR/2 on around 0000z qrss10 with a full clean call.
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  Laurence G4DMA mobile J28 M1


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and list=
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I listen at times for W stns but not visual, so far nil hrd.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Heard last night from the car<BR>GM4SLV 5-10 dB above=20
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Hi LF,

RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.

45 baud, 23 HZ shift.

Reports welcome.

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Dear Johan,

Thanks once again for your contribution.
=20
> I'm sorry Chris, I was a bit angry but I did not intend to upset anyone.=20

Please don't apologise - you certainly didn't upset me :-)

Actually, as editor of a small scientific journal, you wrote exactly the sor=
t of email that I like to see - it got people talking! So often readers have=
 ideas but not enough motivation to put them into print. You persuaded a lot=
 of people to oil up their keyboards and expand a couple of letters into a r=
eal debate.

> Anyway, these ad's are driving me mad... Isn't it possible to at least=20
put them all at the end of the magazine? ;-)

I know the feeling. At least it's not as bad as what our Cousins on the othe=
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Joe,

    What time (UTC) do switch between cw and QRSS?

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> Hello Jean-Pierre,
> 
> Thank-you for the report.  It appears as if the stability of
> is satisfactory at the moment.  When the WX becomes cold, there
> could be drift from the heaters in the radio room so I will
> be working on an OCXO.
> 
> 73
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:
> 
> > Hello Joe ,
> >
> > Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
> > I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
> > but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
> > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >
> > Joe Craig a écrit :
> > > ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> > > at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Joe VO1NA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Visitez mon site radioamateur à : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> > Analysé avec AVAST Home édition , garanti sans virus connu
> >
> >
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Hello all,

 

 A few days ago a list of "Active" 500khz stations was posted on this
reflector. There were approx. 30 G or English stations, 2-GM's 2GI's and
2GW's. Whether there are many more who obtained NOV's I don't know.

However, it seems a rather poor take up of the privileged opportunity to
operate on this interesting band. Excellent transmitter designs by M0MBU and
GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but have not, as Mal
G3KEV has said,  found their way into RADCOM. Possibly Dave G3YXM could
bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who select construction
and design articles. It is of course, a niche interest as are many others in
amateur radio but regrettably, one is drawn to the conclusion that some UK
amateurs are a bit tardy when it comes to having to build equipment. Re the
availability of components, this is not really a problem.  The big boys
Farnell, Radiocomponents and Rapid will now deal direct and the small
suppliers that come to mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous
others.

 

I too, am also critical of the current trend in RADCOM as voiced by others
but it must be born in mind that without the representations by the RSGB we
would not have had the NOVs on 500.and that we are the only European country
with that privilege.

 

 I do fear that unless OFCOM make a decision soon at to the future of the
500khz allocation there will now be little incentive for people to go to the
trouble of building for this experimental band.

With apologies for the ramble

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

 

 


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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:51:31 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Fine, John,
> 
> That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a
> clear print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the
> band condx are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz
> shift , see how that prints .. that is a mode , you can send by
> simple fsk , ?
> 
> Graham ..
> 

Hi Graham, LF

Not sure I can decode that with gMFSK on Linux. I can take the grabber
offline and use the windows box/multipsk though?

John


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Ok, yes I see.

I'm afraid I need a different receiver to sort that tight inferno out. The A=
GC
off position of my NRD-91 RX does not completely turn off the AGC and the
result is too much blanking in the FFT-picture from the stronger stations.
Maybe I should try the FT-980 with a homebrew downconverter instead.

Thanks for the info Uwe!

73's

Paul-Henrik

Quoting uwe-jannsen@versanet.de:

> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>
> > Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!
> >
> > I will correct this error as soon as possible.
> >
> > I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here
> > than before,
> > at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.
> >
> > How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to he=
ar
> or
> > see signals from them yet.
> >
>
> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> pse see
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> there they are visible.
>
> regards
> Uwe
>
>
>




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Haha, Joe is a fine chap, I'm sure he will be grinning.



----- Original Message ----- 
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>I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in 
>PHYSICS!!!!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hooton_Taylor,_Jr.
>
> (Boy am I sorry for asking him such dumb questions!!!)
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Its a bit like having the first telephone ......
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:58 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: LF: Re: Olivia data test
>>
>>
>> > If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your
>> > findings...
>> >
>> > Andy  G4JNT
>> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
>> > Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
>> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
>> > To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Andy,
>> >
>> > Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
>> > group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
>> > using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
>> > know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
>> >
>> >       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
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>
>
> -- 
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> 


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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:26:03 +0200
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hallo Finbar, John and ALL!
> I can see two signals from UK early morning. It was very interesting
> to study different time of QSB between them. Especially Finbar=C2=B4s
> signal was sometimes up to 25dB S/N strong and consecutively
> decreased to noise level.=20
> Thanks for beaconing, it is very useful! The same I have to say about
> your grabber, John! =20
> =20
> Lubos, OK2BVG =20


Thanks Lubos for another welcome report!

I placed my beacon transmission close to Finbar's so that they could
both be observed at the same time.=20

I have now stopped the tranmission so the grabber can be used again to
observe the band as seen at my QTH.

Best wishes=20

John GM4SLV
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Jean Pierre and Hartmut,

Thank-you for monitoring the signals and the reports.
Hartmut noticed the drift on the signals again.
The drift could be seen here using a tcxo freq.
counter.

I will try to get this under control to improve
the chances of reception.  The TX is now off;
will announce when it is QRV again.

Thank-you once again
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nothing here .
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>
>

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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:52:49 +0100 "Andy Talbot"
<andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> writes:
> My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
> In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year 
> or so.
> 
> Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go 
> missing :-(
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
>


Hi Andy

are they copying the ARRL and QST. QST has become a umm Fluffy rag
and in order to get technical articles you have to subscribe to QEX
so Good Luck With That

Bob K3DJC


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Hi Chris, John & LF,

Thank you for the reports on my narrow shift RTTY beacon, that is very 
encouraging along with the report from VE regarding Finbars beacon.

My beacon only running 60 mW ERP at the time.

For comparison the complete text is :-

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
09:24 - 10/10/2007
DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP - RTTY - 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BAUD - REPORTS WELCOME
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP - RTTY - 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BAUD - REPORTS WELCOME
RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

----- Original Message ----- 01 --------
Re: 500 KHz RTTY Beacon


 Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -REPOTS WELCOM THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON THE LA Y DOG DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP -RTTY BA 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BUD - REPORTS WELCOME RYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYDLHYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRSRSRYRYYRYRYRYRYRY X --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using MMTY 1.65D, ICOM 706 MKII and 9 metre vertical. Signal level about S4 Chris G3XVL----- Original Message ----- 02 --------Hi Gary & LF,Just on the way to bed but can RX some of the RTTY. Looks bright on thewaterfall. This decoded at 21:12UTCRYRYRYHRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRSYSRYRYRYRYRYRYRYYYRYRYRYRYRYZY21:122 WHPOXQVULDSRKWGT4/2&5 IO13QP - RTTY - 23? HW SHIFT - 45. AUD GA REPOTSWELCOMELTEIQSCKNBROWNNJ JUMVYEOMEY THE LAZY DOGDE GORP&5 GWX -HIOIEQPE RTY - 1( HZ SHFH - BRTMTAKD - REPOLL QZLCOMERYRYRHCYRYRYRYYRYYGYOYYRYRYYRYRYRYRHRYRYRZYRSCYRYRYRYRYSomething legible in there!Cheers,John GM4SLVClousta, Shetland IP90gg


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I just received a few transmissions from the "CW IS GOOD BEACON IS BAD" 
beacon on the TCP/IP band. Condx seems to be up but no surprise this 
time either. In fact, it is quite boring to listen to because it hasn't 
changed its beacon message since I first heard it 10 or so years ago...

Johan SM6LKM


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19.13UTC: Just received G3XIZ at S0.5 over noise replying to M0FMT on 502.5k=
Hz.

No copy of M0FMT

Just before this GM4SLV at S1 over noise was calling CQ on the QRG.


Keep up the good signals over there in UK!

73's


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

Info: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/
500kHz log: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt


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I thought your figures looked a bit odd, and intuitively Tom should 
be further. I put the figures into G0GJV's Minos VHF logger:

GM4SLV    IP90GG
to:
G3OLB      IO80IU    1054km   187deg
G3LDO      IO90ST   1054km   176deg

and for reference:
G3YMC     IO91PJ   988km     177deg

When I saw both Tom and Peter were exactly the same distance I double 
checked and it is indeed so. I guess you have the wrong locator for 
Tom?

73 Dave G3YMC

On 30 Oct 2007 at 10:08, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> Hello LF,
> 
> prompted by Alan Melia I've just done a bit of research into the
> distance worked last night in my QSO with Peter G3LDO. 
> 
> My geography of the south of England is poor... he told me his QTH was
> "nr Worthing" but I didn't think this would be so far away! Peter was
> unable to give an IARU locator last night but a quick visit to QRZ.COM
> and www.nearby.org.uk gives me a rought estimate of IO90ST
> 
> 
> QRB/QTE software gives the distance as 1052km / 644 miles
> 
> Previously my best DX was with Tom G3OLB at 1039km in August. This new
> QSO with Peter 'LDO pushes me about as far as I can go until someone
> in Cornwall appears on the band!
> 
> Anyone know of suitable GU/GJ stations they can persuade to tool up
> for 500?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Ok Joe , i listening tonight !

73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thank-you again, Jean-Pierre.
> It seems the HP 5382A has a TCXO output that can be
> used to improve the carrier accuracy. Will try to use
> this soon.
>
> 73 to all
> Joe
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil also !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
>>> it has only 3 hours of listening there
>>> (stop of ?Europe 183kHz? for maintenance)
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>      =20
>>>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>>>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Joe
>>>>        =20
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#

DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" in
transmit frequency.

Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Karl-Heinz
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Sent: 19 October 2007 16:47
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Arnim Pomsel
Subject: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE 19.10.2007
16:00h UTC


Hello all,

OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to
the reflektor.

He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test.
Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC

technical Information:
TX:    X-tal exciter
Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader

His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
Please send him  receiving reports!

thank  you,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS







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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:03 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Fine John,
> 
> Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text
> and power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up
> and i cannot tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...
> 
> .... Tnx - Graham ..


Any advice on setting Multipsk for amtor-fec 85Hz?

John


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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

On 187 kHz :
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The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj






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20:00 > 24:00  approx .

Running , test , AMTOR - FEC 85 HZ SHIT   ~  RTTY 45.45 . 85 HZ SHIFT

FREQ

503.15    RTTY
503    
502.85    FEC 

In use , MMTY , 'normal,  RTTY 
Multipsk ,  Amtor-fec 

Tx set ,  502, usb . , tone freq, cent 1000  Hz   + 150 , rtty , -150 Fec 

Tnx

Graham ..



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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:06:22 +0100
"Chris McCarthy" <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Good copy here Chris in Ipswich.
> 
> TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3X
> IZ G3XIZ
>    TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
>    QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLASWADE BEDS BEDS
>    LOK IO92UB IO92UB
>    INTERNET:  C.CJO AT BTIBTENET.COM
>    TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ AR
> 
> 
> Chris G3XVL
> JO02NB


Chris, Chris, LF,

that's a bit better than I got!

TEST TEST DE GQEKXCT G3SZ

but at least some of the letters were in the right places!

John GM4SLV


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Privet Dmitrij!

Po ukazannomu linku neimeetsja nikakoi grabber.... toljko strannostji i 
reklama s jandeksa...

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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> Hi LF
>
> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
>
> http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html
>
> Dmitry
> RA3YO
>
>
> 





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In a message dated 18/10/2007 16:42:53 GMT Standard Time,  
hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com writes:

Thanks  for the signals chaps - 

73 Im outta here.
Laurence  reverting to 9V1LF 



Thanks for the interesting series of reports Laurence.
 
Safe Journey
 
David  G0MRF



   

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Thank you everyone for your observations. =20

Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in partic=
ular to 87-90kHz):

"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations=20=
suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would increa=
se by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the same a=
mount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about 5dB.

How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the streng=
th of other LORAN transmission."

Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:

>Dear Gary, LF,
>
>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>
>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Hi Mal, LF,
>
>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>ones.
>
>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>in
>noise.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>Subject: LF: loran
>
>
>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>500
>> etc, it is not necessry.
>> 73 G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>






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I've been watching this thread, and whilst nothing to do with RadCom would
suggest that the lack of technical articles on 500kHz is more likely to be a
dearth in people writing articles than a editorial decision not to publish
such material. =20

As RSGB HF Manager I would be more than happy to support technical articles
concerning 500kHz or indeed 136kHz.  Technical articles are peer reviewed
prior to publication and support from someone like myself may help ensure
that such articles don't take too long during this process (as has
unfortunately happened in the past).

Like most sentiment on this reflector, I am also one who would like to see
more technical content in RadCom!

73 John, G3WKL
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for that John,
> 
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
> 
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
> effective on this band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
> system .
> 
> Tnx


Hi Graham and the LF group,

Yes I rather cheated by picking the best bit. It does get errors in the
QSB dips, I can kick the decoder away again and see if I can quantify
the period of good/bad copy.

I believe MFSK16 would be okay for non-linear amps, as it's a single
tone system.

Cheers,

Joh


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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:24 +0000
Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest
> to some of you 500khz folks.

Hi Vernon. LF,

This is fantastic news and might be a great source of encouragement to
the 500kHz experimenters here in the UK.

> GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.
> Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish
> DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.
>

I'm really amazed at this report. I know Finbar, from participating in
the 500kHz experiment and I'm sure he'll be very glad of the report.

> Receiver - R75
> Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire
> N/S Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center
> Software - Spectran / Argo

You forgot to list "Golden Ears"


> I will keep watching for others as conditions improve


Thanks Vernon! I certainly would love to hear a report from you. My
path might be a bit more difficult than Finbar's as I'm bit furhter
north, but I'm willing to give it a go!

Well done both stations.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland
IP90gg


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Hi Roman,

Thanks for the report, I am nou with more power and QRSS 60.

73! 
Frank. 


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> Hi Frank!
> 
>>Hi LF,
> 
>>I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.
> 
>>If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.
> 
>>Frank.
> 
> 
> 
> RN3AGC in Moscow was copy artifacts of your signal!
> 
> Look shot.
> 
> He said if you use a QRSS60/120 we are copy well your station in Moscow.
> 
> I did't copy you this moment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 73!
> 
> Roman, RW3ADB
> 
>


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Trayner" <C.Trayner@leeds.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: LF: RADCOM


Dear Johan,


Thank you for your email.

> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment
orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.

Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the
advertisers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless
it paid for the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.

I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive
without the ads.

Not true because without the adverts there would only be 14 pages to print
and the cost would be minimal, currently with the revenue from adverts
Radcom should be free.
Some one has already pointed out that Amateur radio is behind us, and has
very little future because of the internet, mobile phones and  pmr licence
free devices on 446 mhz. plus CB.
Except you were a radio amateur at least 50 years ago you would not be aware
of the drastic changes that have taken place over this period.
Amateur radio does not exist anymore it is all APPLIANCE operators now, the
majority could not mend a fuse, never mind change a plug on coax cable.
The exam criteria has taken such a dive, multiple choice and the answer is
in front of you.
I speak from experience having started building with valves/tubes and still
going strong with the lastest IC'S, Fets etc.
I do not suppose most will know  what I am talking about, today the black
box is returned to the source if a plug falls off. For 500 khz the majority
that might be intererested will never get started because they cannot solder
and never heard of CW.

de  G3KEV



> Some ad's
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic
gadget..".

This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will
print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they
don't want to alienate their advertisers.

I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent.
Others are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets,
which said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread.
Having read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many
faults which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of
uncritical review loses respect for the magazine.


73,
Chris Trayner G4OKW




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John,
 
 I get the feeling that the 4 pages of "how to fit a PL-259" are  probably 
most avidly read by the ops who need to know how much work their more  
knowledgable mate had to do in order to assess whether the price of a pint will  
suffice as gratitude for assistance in getting them on the air!
 
 
 
73 de Pat  G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK




   

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Hi John,

There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.

IO91RM, e-mail ganymede444@btopenworld.com

Cheers, Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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> LF,
> 
> Hearing G3WCE ( fairly sure it's that) calling CQ on 502.5, RST439 in
> QRN
> 
> Despite many replies I haven't been able to raise him! This is a new
> call to me, anyone have any info/contact details? 
> 
> QRZ.com says he's in Norfolk, but no email address.
> 
> Nice to hear a new call at least!
> 
> John
> GM4SLV 
> Clousta, Shetland
> 
> 
>


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John, GM4SLV wrote:
> I had a question posed by a DL station about the legality of working us
> - since we're outside the normal "amateur service". My opinion is it's
> fine. I've asked John Gould for the official line but intend to
> continue with it as it helps my "research" to work and get reports from
> as many stations, as far away, as possible.
>
>
>   
We used to have X band QSOs on 73kHz without official problems.

My first contact like this was with F6CNI on 28/3/98 73kHz/80m. We also 
used to have X band contacts (136kHz/80m) with countries who had not 
received 136kHz approval at the time of the QSO.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


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Hi Joe

What kind of authorization did you get from IC to do this?

Would be nice if we could do the same so please fill us in.

73 Scott
VE7TIL

Joe Craig wrote:
> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
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>
>
>   


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Static level still high but signal levels high ,too. The overnight
signal plot of the G0MRF beacon shows  a good signal level all night.
Copied the CW signal from G0MRF and GIDPE.

>From the US good signal level from WD2XSH/17 in CW on 507.75 kHZ. Good
periods between 00:37 and 02:18 UTC. Some good peaks of the QRSS3
signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz during the night. Best about
02:35-02:48.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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=20
Graham - the "music" was a good 539 here and little or no qsb at the time. Q=
TH is the Marriot hotel carpark, just a couple of hundred metres East of Jun=
ction 28 M1 on the Notts/Derbyshire border- elevation of antennae is err...w=
ell the baby bottle encompassing the 4 inch copper clad "array" and preamp i=
s strapped to a lower section of a  broken 2m magmount antennae that Martin=20=
Lynch donated last weekend and is some 15 inches above car roof level, so th=
e effective antenna height aint that much.=20
=20
The car park isnt that quiet being close to the hotel which is blessed with=20=
dimmers/apc's/variable freq air con drives and I also spy a crane across the=
 road which tends to be the highest noise source from 137-2Mhz from its besp=
oke variable frequency drives and "long antennae" - luckily for me as distin=
ct from Singapore the Brit workers knock off at 6pm so no 24 hours of churni=
ng noises which Im blessed with at home - I count over a hundred cranes on m=
y Singapore skyline and can "hear" cranes on 137Khz up to two miles away.
=20
 Ill be whizzing or more likely crawling back to London this afternoon and w=
ill run captures on the way down - then on a flight back "home" to Singapore=
 on Friday.
=20
My impression of LF and MF conditions were that they were a lot quieter last=
 night but to the detriment of long haul prop. I dont think Gus was on when=20=
I watched but the other beacons were down on average. No prop to here from P=
at /6 station on 505.266 which was my target for the night. Looking at my re=
mote receiver http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg I see a pretty average night  on=20=
the Singapore to DCF39 path - with a lot of deep fades and no long peaks - p=
eak levels down a few dBs from the previous night, but the station is experi=
encing a strong thunderstorm at the moment so things are a little choppy.
=20
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=20
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ct 2007 21:44:41 +0100Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test



.... Lol=20
=20
Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the locator square ? , altitu=
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s too well at Bham but allways gets  to  shetland !
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Graham - the "music" was a good 539 here and little or no qsb at the time. Q=
TH is the Marriot hotel carpark, just a couple of hundred metres East of Jun=
ction 28 M1 on the Notts/Derbyshire border- elevation of antennae is err...w=
ell the baby bottle encompassing the 4&nbsp;inch copper clad "array" and pre=
amp is strapped to a lower section of a &nbsp;broken 2m&nbsp;magmount&nbsp;a=
ntennae that Martin Lynch donated last weekend and&nbsp;is some&nbsp;15 inch=
es above car roof level, so&nbsp;the effective antenna height aint that much=
. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The car park isnt that quiet being close to the hotel which is blessed with=20=
dimmers/apc's/variable freq air con drives and I also spy a crane across the=
 road which tends to be the highest noise source from 137-2Mhz from its besp=
oke variable frequency drives and "long antennae" - luckily for me as distin=
ct from Singapore the Brit workers knock off at 6pm so no 24 hours of churni=
ng noises which Im blessed with at home - I count over a hundred cranes on m=
y Singapore skyline and can "hear" cranes on 137Khz up to two miles away.<BR=
>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Ill be whizzing or more likely crawling back to London this afternoon=20=
and will run captures on the way down - then on a flight back "home" to Sing=
apore on Friday.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My impression of LF and MF conditions were that they were a lot quieter last=
 night but to the detriment of long haul prop. I dont think Gus was on when=20=
I watched but the other beacons were down on average. No prop to here from P=
at /6 station on 505.266 which was my target for the night. Looking at my re=
mote receiver <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg">http://kl1x.com/captd=
dcf.jpg</A> I see a pretty average night&nbsp; on the Singapore to DCF39 pat=
h - with a lot of deep fades and no long peaks - peak levels down a few dBs=20=
from the previous night, but the station is experiencing a strong thundersto=
rm at the moment so things are a little choppy.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>Laurence G4DMA mobile<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
9V1LF KL1X etc<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>.... Lol </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the l=
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Thanks Mal - Im doing some revision of some of my previous filter designs so=
 dont want to plague anyone with a huge number of variables, thanks for the=20=
offer


From: g3kev.ham@virgin.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Mon, 29 Oct=20=
2007 17:08:10 +0000Subject: LF: Re: Chebyshev



Laurence.
You asked a question and you got a lot of advice about looking up web pages.=
 I do not know why someone did not give you the inductor/capicator values th=
at you require.
Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the required values.
de Mal/G3KEV
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----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: Chebyshev
Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses.. Laurence

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You asked a question and you got a lot of advice abo=
ut looking up web pages. I do not know why someone did not give you the indu=
ctor/capicator values that you require.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Chris, LF,

Just seen your RTTY & recieved this :-

 RYRYRYRYRYYYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRS
L N RHCYRYRYCYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRURYRYRYRY
   TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G-//8+ &3XIZ
   TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZSG3XIZ
   QH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS
   LOC: IO92=7? 8992=7? 9892UBIIO92UB 
S  INTERNE:  C.CJT AT BTINTERNET.NOM
   TEST TEST TEST DE G+//8+ &09*82 &3XIZ

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Thanks for report Graham.

Continuing until about 2230 utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Grary,
> 
> Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..
> 
> G ..
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>> Hi LF,
>>
>> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
>>
>> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
>>
>> Reports welcome.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Grary,

Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..

G ..






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> Hi LF,
>
> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
>
> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
>
> Reports welcome.
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> 73
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:12:41 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Rtty ... 502 khz  85  hz shift , 45 baud 
> 
> Any copy ? 
> 
> G .. 

Hi Graham..

I saw the RTTY on the grabber, put gMFSK into action and I RX'd this:=

QIAGOUXRZMPVYDQFJVKVXPRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYGYRY
QRYJYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYRYRYRRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
G0NBD G0NBD G0NB G0
BD G0 B G0NBD G0NB
 G0NBD G0PBE G0(,?$ GPNBD G0NBD
RYRYYRYRYRYRXRYRRYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYRYRZRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRY


That was as good as it got. I was out of the shack for most of the
evening, and have just scrolled back to find what was received. Not
sure of the time.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV 

Clousta, Shetland IP90gg


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On 2 Oct 2007 at 0:52, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> In the quiet moments between CQ calls and listening out for CQ calls
> (and other more mundane matters like work, life, family etc) I
> squeezed together a few photos and words about my 500kHz setup and
> dropped them onto a website.
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John GM4SLV

John

I have added a link to your site from mine:
http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/
Those new on here may find something of interest in my pages.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Good luck with the tests Lubos!

Here in Finland I have tried to improve my inverted-L antenna by adding radi=
als
with groundpoles at the ends and optimizing the tuner by using a small
variometer at almost 100% inductance used. At the moment I have 8 radials wi=
th
5 to 15 meter length + 2 groundpoles below the antenna feedpoint. With a bri=
dge
I measure about 30 ohms Rtot but the null is wide so can be +-5ohms or so. I
need more power from the signal generator to get better sensitivity around n=
ull
before I can say the accurate value. Anyway, much better than the 200 ohms i=
s
started improving from.

I have put my 500kHz log on the web: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.t=
xt

My homepage, not so much atm: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/

73's and have a good listening weekend!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo OM=B4s!
> Beacon OK0EMW will be switched off from 5.10.2007 to 7.10.2007. I am
> going to receive on 500kHz away from the city, on portable about 5km
> fare of  nearest village. I am looking forward to good reception in the
> unpolluted nature. I hope the QRN will be low, my primary interest is
> testing some rx aerials baming to UK.
>
> 73 and GL on 500kHz!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>




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I have been doing well xband 500/3533/7033 so far with 11 countries worked
but reports are vy poor, average 429 at night time and no QSO'S daytime I
suppose of the QRP that I am permitted.
Others ought to join in and try their luck, I do know others are being hrd
but not QAP for a QSO.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Dmitry wrote:

> Hi LF
>
> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
>
sorry

http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

>
>
> Dmitry
> RA3YO
>
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Its not Me !

I have seen the odd 'multi' trace round 503 on the bham plot, I thought it 
was local interferance , but it was quite a stable frequency and may be was 
just under 200 hz wide ....

looks like a candidate for 'things that go beep in the night' ..

Graham ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


Yes, it has been on a few times on 503kHz this evening. Good audible copy in
KP03SD.

Quoting brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi All -
>
>   Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY 
> on
> about 503 kHz.
>
>   Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id -
> anyone else copy it?
>
>   Brian (G3YKB)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>  For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this
> month.







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good cpy GI3PDN cqing on 501.5KHz 439, sri just no ant-setup for 80m. may be=
 next days.

73, 55 Ed DL2HRE in JO51TQ

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Hello Karl-Heinz,
pse see the NL9222 grabber.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx


Zitat von Karl-Heinz Gansel <softrock@dl6ebs.de>:

> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information 
> to the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS 
> test. Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 
> 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>
>
>
>
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>





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GI3PDN strong signal tonite, normal speed morse.

73

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Hi LF,

They have collided !!!!

Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's


> Hi LF,
>
> Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks like
> they are on collision course.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:12 PM
> Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong
>> and
>> audible using normal morse (CW).
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the report.  It appears as if the stability of
is satisfactory at the moment.  When the WX becomes cold, there
could be drift from the heaters in the radio room so I will
be working on an OCXO.

73
Joe

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> Hello Joe ,
>
> Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
> I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
> but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> > at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
> >
> > 73
> > Joe VO1NA
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Several tens of mV's  .... is that all !!!

I can run a speaker off my ae (coil and diode) , check out where radio 
merseyside is located .. :-(

G ..


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> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:
>
>> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
>> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
>> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
>> view the AM on a scope.
>>
>> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
>> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
>> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
>> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
>>
>> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>>
>>
>
>
> Hello Andy,
>
> I think you're near Southampton?
> Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power
> filler - HI!)
>
> Found this listing too
>
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf
>
> Any help?
>
> John GM4SLV
> Shetland
>
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Joe,

noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still 
not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the 
dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the 
dashes are in a straight line.
Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance 
+/- 0.05 Hz.

73
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Hi Pete=20

long time no see ....=20

Where is     'Luckily its not too bad here ' ???

assume the 'test g3xiz' is from g3xiz ..as gary decoded mofmt ?? . dont see=20=
a thing up here most  of the time , spectrum lab just looks like a bowl of o=
range jelly !=20

Graham ..



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter March=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


  Hi all

  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.   2=
0:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really rend=
ers it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a l=
ocal station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its no=
t too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day=
, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a=
 good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-)=20

  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS=
 LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G=
3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "

  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....

  Pete FMT vy 73

  Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
    Hi LF,

    I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000kh=
z=20
    ????

    ******************************
    1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
    ******************************

    I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we a=
ll=20
    know in there - M0FMT ???

    73

    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: "Dave Sergeant"=20
    To:=20
    Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


    > On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
    >
    >> Its not Me !
    >
    > Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
    >
    > It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
    > tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
    > frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
    >
    > By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
    > hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
    >
    > 73 Dave G3YMC
    >
    > http://www.davesergeant.com
    >
    >
    >=20







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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Pete </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>long time no see .... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>assume the 'test g3xiz' is from g3xiz ..as=20=
gary=20
decoded mofmt ?? . dont see a thing up here most&nbsp; of the time , spectru=
m=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV>OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on=20
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  <DIV>You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really=
=20
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is a=20
  local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its=
 not=20
  too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day=
, I=20
  resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a g=
ood=20
  internet e-mail connection!!!!.......&nbsp;&nbsp; :-) </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>"TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS=
=20
  BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.CO=
M DE=20
  G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....</DIV>
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  <DIV>Pete FMT vy 73</DIV>
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t=20
    503.000khz <BR>????<BR><BR>******************************<BR>1+J ACT M0F=
MT=20
    M&amp;2!.5 $3 1 (/8+=20
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s=20
    line amongst lots of garbage &amp; there is a call sign we all <BR>know=20=
in=20
    there - M0FMT ???<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT -=20
    IO83qp<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Serge=
ant"=20
    <DAVE@DAVESERGEANT.COM><BR>To: <RSGB_LF_GROUP@BLACKSHEEP.ORG><BR>Sent:=20
    Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM<BR>Subject: Re: LF: [500]=20
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Hello LF,

I mentioned I had arranged a streaming audio feed from my "grabber 
receiver" in a previous email. I'm sitting at work listening to the 
audio from the RX and can hear G3UNT calling CQ. Even with 3.5kHz 
bandwidth (to feed the grabber) I can still hear him, across the internet!


I'd love to copy a full QSO like this, someone give him a call...?

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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Hi Jim, LF,

Must have just caught comming out of QSB as it took a dive soon after.

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> Hi Peter,
>
> Welcome to the group.
> I hope that you will soon be ready to make a QSO with one of us.
> I will try to be QRV and testing tomorrow evening (friday)
>
> 73, Regards Frank.
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
> To: "137 KHz" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:55 PM
> Subject: LF: 137 KHz my first post
>
>
>> Hello  Gentlemen,
>> this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am finishing=
=20
>> ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz already, i have built from=20
>> the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing  peripherial hardware  for=20
>> the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
>> and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a successful=
=20
>> qso with some  of you  some day
>> very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming=20
>> weeks...
>>
>>
>> 73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
>> qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs
>>
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Sorry John,
I was sure that someone was calling me - just discernable with the filter and earphones on - but couldn't get a call sign from it !
The beacons are strong here and don't help matters.
As you say 'roll on winter'.
73 Chris XIZ

John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: Chris, LF

Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not
making it down in daylight.

Roll on winter...

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Sorry John,<br>I was sure that someone was calling me - just discernable with the filter and earphones on - but couldn't get a call sign from it !<br>The beacons are strong here and don't help matters.<br>As you say 'roll on winter'.<br>73 Chris XIZ<br><br><b><i>John Pumford-Green GM4SLV &lt;gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Chris, LF<br><br>Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not<br>making it down in daylight.<br><br>Roll on winter...<br><br>John GM4SLV<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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Hi LF,

I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.
If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:58:09 +0100 (BST)
Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Here  here.
>    
>   I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons
> mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh? 
>   73 petefmt



I've just been calling CQ, in CW, at speeds between 10WPM and 35WPM,
for almost 2 hours. Had a difficult QSO with GI3PDN at 1650UTC - severe
QSB. Other than that heard nil. Daylight conditions, can't expect much
more. At least I was having a go. 

On a positive note----

I have, though, over the course of the last 2 months had over 50 QSOs,
all in CW, all hand sent, all at probably no more than 15WPM due to the
conditions, with at least 9 different stations, at ranges of between
500 and 1040km.

I still don't understand the moans of "perpetual beacons". A beacon at
least means there's a signal on the band that might be of use to
someone. Often radiated by a station that is also an active "QSO
maker". 

Better a beacon than an empty band entirely. I only put a CW beacon
on if I haven't the time to sit calling CQ, but want to provide
something for the greater good. I have had very nice emails from
stations in Finland, Czech, Germany, France, Norway and others
enthusing over hearing a CW signal on 500kHz. I couldn't possibly have
done that purely from live QSOs, although I have also had mp3s sent to
me from Finland of real QSOs that have been heard over there too.

There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.

Dust off your key, call CQ, work someone?


I understand there are only around 30 NoV holders. All running very low
power. It's hardly surprising the QSO rate is low. Don't assume though
that it's zero!


Cheers,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland.



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Last night , nil also !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
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David Pratt wrote:
> You won't be hearing any beacons or data from me on 501-504kHz

> I presume that UK stations operating Beacons on 501-504kHz and on 136kHz 
> must have special permits to do so.  I do not.
> 
> 73
> 

Dave, LF,

On your first point (above) I'm disappointed not to have heard any A1A 
CW from you yet either. Perhaps we could arrange a sked?

On the second point.

I take the term "beacon" in the context of 500kHz in its colloquial 
sense - ie a transmission intended for reception by unspecified 
stations, not in any strict legal definition, as per the license documents.

In the manner I use "beacons" I think I'm within the terms of the 
license. For one thing they aren't "unattended" as I'm always in the 
shack, or an adjacent room.

What's the difference between a fully legal  QRSS-30 (after all that's 
just A1A-CW) transmission taking 10 hours intended for visual reception 
and a repetitive 10-15wpm CW callsign lasting the same length of time?

Neither are necessarily "beacons" just because they are of a protracted 
length.

At least the proper speed CW is interesting to listen to.

The clauses that I see to be relevant:-

1(1)(a) Self-training - including technical investigation

11(4)(a) Initial Calls

It could even be argued that clause 7(5) could come into play.

My own "beacon" transmissions are in reality "initial calls" which are 
permitted as signals for "general reception".

I'd love someone to answer. Many people do, although generally by QSL 
card or email.

I see nothing in the regulation that specifies how long or short the 
"initial call" must be. As long as I identify with my callsign every 15 
minutes then all seems to be in order? Must I return to RX mode and 
"tune high to low and low to high" every now and then during my "initial 
call" to satisfy you? That's easily arranged.

To further satisfy you I'll change the message from "GM4SLV" to "CQ de 
GM4SLV" to avoid any doubt that it's an "initial call".....?

There's too much nit-picking going on at the moment, and not enough 
serious work!

I've just listened to G3UNT calling CQ on 501.xx fruitlessly (I'm at 
work listening to my RX audio via the internet). Instead of all the 
moaning about what we can and can't do perhaps someone could have worked 
him. If I can hear him in Shetland, in the daytime, then I'm sure 
someone in the home counties who is perhaps retired or off work could 
also have also done so and could have had a useful QSO to add to the 
knowledge base of the 500kHz community in this country, and beyond.

Regards,

John GM4SLV







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On 31 Oct 2007 00:34 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> heard GM4SLV beaconing again around 23.30 UTC and 0.25 UTC on 501,6
> kHz, weak, but could be identified by ear.
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 

Thanks Ha-Jo for the report. 

My antenna was faulty for the past week or so, first with a loose
top-loading wire and later it fell down completely during a storm! I
repaired it on Sunday and have had a few QSOs since. I decided to run
the beacon overnight last night.

Regards,

-- 
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TX HALTED

O/P POWER  DOWN..

TNX TO  GARY FOR INFO

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: : Data test , 503 , amtor fec , 85 hz shift , === 503 KHZ ===


> .... FREQ    === 503 KHZ====
>
> Slight miss , type , carrier running , 503 at moment ,
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:32 PM
> Subject: LF: Data test , 503 , amtor fec , 85 hz shift , approx 2000 > 
> 2400 Hrs
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
>> 503.0 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00
>>
>> Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  2 Khz
>>
>> mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,
>>
>> Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
>> indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...
>>
>> **** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> G0NBD
>> IO83LK
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
22:00=>07:00   WD2XGJ   ( good moments ! )

On 187 kHz :
Nil               ( VO1NA Off )

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Hallo Alberto!
Thanks for your report of beacon OK0EMW. I am glad to receive your
e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SDR receiver:
Selective preamplifier with two tubes (+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise
-110dB) >>>SDRadio home made >>>PC with two sound cards and software
WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have got an other receivers for low bands as well,
but this configuration is doing the very well. I have tested some
softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best for my experiments on
500kHz.
=20
New SDR Perseus seems very interesting. Sorry, but I think that software
for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other SDR, for example SDR-IQ. I
will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.
=20
GL on 500kHz!  I am sure, you will produce as good softwares as WinRad
is in the future.
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
=20
************************************************************************
***************
=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alberto di Bene
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:25 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: OK0EMW copied with Perseus
=20
Good copy  of OK0EMW in JN45SL using the new Perseus receiver and a
random length of wire (abt. 15m)



Perseus info here :  http://sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/

73  Alberto  I2PHD

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>o!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for your report=20=
of beacon OK0EMW. I
am glad to receive your e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SD=
R
receiver:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Selective preamplifier=20=
with two tubes
(+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise -110dB) &gt;&gt;&gt;SDRadio home made
&gt;&gt;&gt;PC with two sound cards and software WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have go=
t
an other receivers for low bands as well, but this configuration is doing th=
e
very well. I have tested some softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best
for my experiments on 500kHz.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>New SDR Perseus seems v=
ery interesting.
Sorry, but I think that software for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other=
 SDR,
for example SDR-IQ. I will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL on 500kHz!<span  sty=
le=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I am sure, you will produce as good softw=
ares
as WinRad is in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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****************************************************************<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:w=
indowtext'>-----Original
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></fon=
t><st1:PersonName><font   size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;   color:windowtext'>Albert</span></=
font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2  color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;  color:windowtext'>o di Bene<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10,=20=
2007
11:25 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: OK0EMW copied wi=
th
Perseus</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin=
-bottom:  12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Good copy&nbsp; of OK0EMW i=
n JN45SL using the new
Perseus receiver and a random length of wire (abt. 15m)<br>
<br>
<img width=3D611 height=3D43 id=3D"_x0000_i1025"  src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01=
C80BCD.5312C780"><br>
<br>
Perseus info here :&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/">http:=
//sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/</a><br>
<br>
73&nbsp; Alberto&nbsp; I2PHD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Nice copy last night on 501.600 CW dear Mike.Congratulations for this cross  
band with F6BWO.
Seen GI4DPE beacon.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Jim,

> I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
> Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.

 excellent copy here. Screenshot attached.

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Hartmut
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Hallo ALL!
Hard QRM and QSB  this night (the same as last night). Signal of GM4SLV
was the best around midnight UTC.
 
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Hi Joe , Hartmut and all ,

I will be qrv the next night to listen to the 137 Khz
and the 187 Khz (both XR on the same antenna function well,
I found the problem, just a connection cut of ground! )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hartmut, Jean-Pierre and group,
>
> Thank-you very much for the reports.  It seems from
> Hartmut's traces that the seagulls are gone and the
> stability is much better.  There are fragments of
> an N in the middle of the trace and the timing
> is consistent with what was sent, confirming the sigs
> came from here.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:
>>
>> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
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>>
>>
>>    =20
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>
>
>  =20

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Despite the high static level copied the CW signal from WE2XGR/2 on
506.5 kHz. The signal was visible 23:18-02:13 UTC. best around 01:45.

Brief copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz around
02:55 UTC.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
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Hi Jim, LF,

As Graham pointed out it was me with 45 Bd RTTY 85 Hz shift on 503.6 KHz.

I stopped the beacon when I saw your signals so I could capture & send a 
report. I have in fact got 3 full screen captures using the continuous tape 
feature in SpecLab which I will send you direct.

If anyone else would like them for propogation purposes please let me know 
direct. They show the QSB periods quite well over about 1.5 hours.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
> tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
> with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of 
> signal.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> 



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18.05UTC and GW4HXO beacon is Q3 in Vaasa/Finland KP03SD. Signal is slowly
improving to CW-QSO quality.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ



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Same here in IO83qp.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> GW4HXO ... NICE SIG IN IO83LK
> 
> GRAHAM ..
> 
> 
>


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 Joe,
 is your signal still drifting like the past years? There was a
 faint trace on 187.3703 kHz about 00:20-01:40 UTC.

73
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Thanks Mal /2 Jay was some dBs below CW read last night but there again my i=
mpressions of conditons was "mixed" Great signal from you all over the UK fr=
om the car here.  There hasnt been a place where I cant hear you even in cen=
tral London going mobile up the "The Bank"
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Cheers
LAurence G4DMA mobile


From: g3kev.ham@virgin.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Wed, 17 Oct=20=
2007 10:41:17 +0000Subject: LF: Re: 500



Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and listening. I listen at times=
 for W stns but not visual, so far nil hrd.
73 mal/g3kev
=20

----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: 500
Heard last night from the carGM4SLV 5-10 dB above noiseG3KEV 30dB aboveGI4DP=
E 5-25dB aboveGI3PDN 5-10 aboveG3VTT 5-10 above and Later on XGR/2 on around=
 0000z qrss10 with a full clean call.  Laurence G4DMA mobile J28 M1

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Thanks Mal /2 Jay was some dBs below CW read last night but there again my i=
mpressions of conditons was "mixed" Great signal from you all over the UK fr=
om the car here.&nbsp; There hasnt been a place where I cant hear you even i=
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Cheers<BR>
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From: g3kev.ham@virgin.net<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wed,=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and list=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Heard last night from the car<BR>GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noi=
se<BR>G3KEV 30dB above<BR>GI4DPE 5-25dB above<BR>GI3PDN 5-10 above<BR>G3VTT=20=
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On 27/10/2007 at 18:20 hamilton mal wrote:

>Not true because without the adverts there would only be 14 pages to print
>and the cost would be minimal, currently with the revenue from adverts
>Radcom should be free.

But somebody still has to get people to provide copy, edit it (not just chan=
ge the layout to conform to the house style - there can be much more to it t=
han that).  You also have to arrange for printing and distribution, which co=
st money. =20

Even with a quarterly periodical of a couple of dozen pages which does not t=
ake advertising, and where the editorial team does not charge for its time,=20=
you still have printing and distribution costs. You can run such a thing on=20=
a low annual subscription, but to produce a monthly periodical of 60 or so a=
dvert-free pages (which is about what November RadCom contains) requires one=
 or more people to be employed, and if you don't take adverts you have to fi=
nd the money from somewhere else.

John F5VLF




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
21:50=>03:30  WD2XGJ

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
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73 J-P f1afj






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Hi Mal,

hamilton mal wrote:
> Hi all
> Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
> B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.

Yes; take a look at Lyle K0LR's website:

http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/

         73

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com


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I was too fast again, it's found here
http://www.w6cqz.org/
73 Ko, NL9222

Andy Talbot wrote:
> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> 
>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT











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Hello Joe ,
Indeed, between 23:00 and 02:00 UTC this part of the band is calm ,
the =93noise floor=94 is equivalent to the 137.777 !
Higher, towards 189.777 it is also calm all the night .
I will prepare the synthetizer to carry out this tests soon!
73 qro J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Although there was no trace of the 187.37 kHz signals on
> your spectra, the effects of the Europe1 broadcast on 183
> kHz could be clearly seen and it seems that this part
> of the band is fairly quiet between 2300 and 0200 UTC.
> I hope to synchronise the transmissions with UTC and
> improve the stability and accuracy of the carrier
> frequency soon.
>
> Thanks for monitoring!
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil nil nil !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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Jean-Pierre,

     Thank you for the captures! Conditions improving!

WD2XGJ QRT tonight (STORMS!)


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 22:00=>07:00   WD2XGJ   ( good moments ! )
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil               ( VO1NA Off )
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
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... Was that not crystal plaice when the bbc 1 50 mhz service came back 
after the war ? may be before they fitter antennas with 'co sequent squared' 
radiation patterns , which improved the coverage and stopped the lawns from 
turning a slight shade of brown ....

although to  be fair the antenna work that lead to  such a device was still 
secret after ww2 ... bit like visiting a radar museum .. once you get past a 
rather bent h2s scanner and may be a birmingham magnitron ... you dont get 
to see very much more hihi

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:51:47 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!
>>
>> or some of it.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>
> It may be apocryphal, but there was a story around the BBC TX training
> centre when I was there of someone very close to Droitwich who did just
> that, and got caught. Can't quite be sure what his crime was, but the
> story goes that there was a hole in the radiation pattern caused by his
> huge inductive pickup system....
>
>
> ?
>
> John
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>
>
>
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> 




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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> On 2 Oct 2007 at 0:52, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm
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Thanks Dave, I will of course reciprocate! THe wider the information 
spreads the more interest there might be...

Cheers,

John GM4SLV




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil , not a trace

On 187 kHz :
Nil , not a trace

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj





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I got a couple of old copies of SPRAT and found it contained some great
ideas and tit bit ccts. It is not hard to alter the ccts for QRO
applications.
You still need to be able to solder and with the new lead free solder that
needs Mega temperatures don't set the board on fire or melt the components.
or even worse burn the house down. Maybe the black box is the best bet for
some!!!!!!!!!!
The old F M CAMM comic of years ago was a great magazine for the technical
lad and if he needed a bed time story he bought the Rover and Hotspur.
Today the trend has changed, the stories have got bigger and technical info
smaller and its all mixed up with glossy adverts in the same magazine, we
will soon need a GPS device to find our way around it, years ago a
flashlight did the trick.
The only advert one encountered was Clydesdale Glasgow selling T1154'S at 17
shillings and 6 pence and a matching receiver R1155  for 2 pounds 11
shillings, 3 and a 1/2 pence. G2AK in Birmingham had Adcola soldering irons
for 1 pound and 2 pence, the solder was free.
Those were the days and every radio amateur was chattering away in morse
code about his latest build, there were very little hers in those days, just
the odd one, there are more today and think of the problems this causes when
him and her are both rushing towards the soldering iron.
There was one called Tracy and another Felicity, lovely names just flowed
off the morse key!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if they are still about.
de Mal/G3KEV





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Laurence,

    AADE has a very powerful filter design and analysis program and its free:
http://www.aade.com/filter.htm


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> 
> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole 
> Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radcom 
> onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical for a 
> routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with thanks Laurence 9V1 LF
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Fine John,

Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text and 
power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up  and i cannot 
tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...

.... Tnx - Graham ..


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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:51:31 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Fine, John,
>>
>> That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a
>> clear print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the
>> band condx are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz
>> shift , see how that prints .. that is a mode , you can send by
>> simple fsk , ?
>>
>> Graham ..
>>
>
> Hi Graham, LF
>
> Not sure I can decode that with gMFSK on Linux. I can take the grabber
> offline and use the windows box/multipsk though?
>
> John
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Hallo ALL!
Thats fine, I have god a new station in my gallery of received stations:
GI3PDN!
Its signal was quite good, audible of 100% in the peek of conditions.
One problem was bad QRN, but it is permanent here nowadys.
 
GL on 500kHz!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 

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Hi Joe and all ,

Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nothing here

On 187 kHz :
Not listening

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Many thanks to Jean Pierre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX
> is back on, just slightly off frequency but quite stable on
> 187.3747 kHz, approximately.
>
> Signal reports and frequency measurements most welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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I am sure this is drifting way way off topic for this reflector.

Just to throw the cat in the fire, I thought this month's RadCom 
(when I finally received it) was considerably above average. The 3B7C 
article was excellent, very much of interest to me, and produced 
incredibly soon after the DX-pedition ended. The contest supplement 
is a welcome improvement on contest reporting, even though this time 
it is largely about vhf/uhf contests which don't interest me. Part of 
Technical Topics was good, though part not so.

I have no inerest in SDR and find the coverage somewhat over the top.

Other articles were sufficiently good that it took a couple of 
evenings to give it a thorough read.

I agree that there should be some component adverts - the nearest to 
that seems to be the Westlake ad. And I have now worked out why the 
first three sheets use thick glossy paper - so that the prime 
advertisers can get high quality colour photos, let us hope they pay 
for the priveledge.

I accept that adverts are essential for it to make its way. I am sure 
you would not want the (already significant) subs to increase to 
compensate.

So enough of the bickering, RadCom has to cater for a wide range of 
interests. In any one issue there will be things you are not 
interested in and others that you are. If your interest is not 
covered then submit an article - it is not difficult, even I have 
done it.

73 Dave G3YMC


http://www.davesergeant.com



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=20
Rx - SDR-IQ Dell 610
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73
Laurence G4DMA mobile
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Graham,

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Hi Chris , 170 hz may be a bit wide .. 85Hz  maybe better , I did a quick ex=
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But its a start :-) ,  but not seen anything here ..yet=20

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  Many thanks Brian,

  It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a=20=
few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!

  73 Chris XIZ

  brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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Hi Graham try Rapid Electronics www.rapidelectronics.co.uk
part number 67-0886 You will need to check the site because thta is from the
2006 paper cat. They have no min order but charge £3 postage for orders
under £30.

Many dont specify the pin spacing.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:35 AM
Subject: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2
... looking for !!!


> So far no good ,
>
> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,
value
> 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x 10
> mm
>
> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find
any
> amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there
range
> now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small
sizes
> ..
>
> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
>
> Tnx - Graham ..
>
>
>



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Many thanks to Jean Pierre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX
is back on, just slightly off frequency but quite stable on
187.3747 kHz, approximately.

Signal reports and frequency measurements most welcomed.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Lubos, LF!

Thank you for the great report of my beacon!

Also Lubos, thank you for the great QSL for my report on your beacon.
This band is full of friendly people and great surprises.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 02:47:21 +0200
Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hi John, ALL!
> I am pleased to captured your signal this night. There was some QRN on
> the band, but your cw beacon was good. It was audible 339 in a peak of
> conditions.
> =20
> 73!
> =20
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In a message dated 11/10/2007 20:40:39 GMT Daylight Time, dibene@usa.net  
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Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the  interconnecting cable 
between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter 
and  the accompanying PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar 
to the  Centronics connector at the printer 
end of a parallel printer cable, only  with a smaller number of pins (24 I 
think).




---------------------------
 
Hi Alberto
 
If it is 24 pins perhaps a GPIB cable would do the job?
 
regards
 
Nigel
 
GM8PZR



   

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Thanks Nicolas,

Yes with te baloon antenna 30 meters high at this moment, my new TX is a 400=
-W Switch-Mode home made.
You can find the design on Andy G4JNT home page.

73 Frank.
   =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
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  Hello Frank, strong signal, whats kind of antenna used ? balloon ?

  Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP

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  Ant: mini whip PA0RDT


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Well,

I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that may
be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during QSB
peaks.

 " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.




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Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .






----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
>>
>> Gary.
>>
>>
> Here you are Graham and the LF group
>
>
> g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n
>
>
>
> error free!
>
> I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
> into/below the noise.
>
>
>
> --
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date:
> 10/15/2007 06:48
>
>







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Last night I copied WD2XSH/6, WD2XSH17 and WE2XGR/2 in QRSS3. For
fading analysis I posted all screenshots taken 23:45-03:55 to my
website:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
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Hi John, ALL!
I am pleased to captured your signal this night. There was some QRN on
the band, but your cw beacon was good. It was audible 339 in a peak of
conditions.
 
73!
 
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If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are permitted
to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
We need two way communications for real time assessment of propagation and
not ONE WAY.
Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in BEACON
mode but forget to mention that they would get the same reports if they were
in QSO.I often get reports from near and far while in QSO mode.
I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a selected part of the 500 khz
band, like the German system and another for real  communications by real
radio amateurs preferably using the traditional marine method of CW.
G3KEV

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> Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
>
>
> >
> > There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> > beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> > conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> > than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
> >
> Hello John,
> p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an
amateur-
> station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
> gl and thanks for the grabber.
> Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv
>
>
>



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On 15 Oct 2007 23:34 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear all, 
> 
> just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz
> apart, GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at
> 501,4 kHz and 501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have
> some QSB, GI4DPE more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about
> the same level.
> 
> Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 
> 
> As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a
> regular possibility in autumn and winter nights.
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 

Thanks for the great report Ha-Jo! This is very pleasing. The distance
is around 1500km. I'm interested that Finbar's signal had more QSB, but
that we were both similar in peaks!

Thanks again!

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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David Pratt wrote:
> In a recent message, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote ...
>> David Pratt wrote:
>>
>>> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence 
>>> and  is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.
>>
>> Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
>> only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable 
>> (as required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of 
>> transmission, in the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" 
>> as defined.
> 
> I am sure you're right, John.  The use of the word "Beacon" is a 
> misnomer in this context and should be referred to as CQ (or initial) 
> calls.


Dave, LF,

Yes, I agree, in so far as that's how best to describe them in strict 
terminology. I see nothing wrong, however, in calling them "beacons" in 
a colloquial sense. Then everyone understands that they may have to wait 
an inordinate length of time before you send "K".

> Looking forward to working you when I have improved my antenna system.

Yes, me too! The more stations there are bashing away on the key the 
less perceived need to fill up the silence with "initial calls" - hi!

Cheers,

John



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Hello John. 
Thanks for the reply, my RX is a Kenwood TS140S with a pre-amp, TX will be
xtal controlled, ant will be my 102ft doublet with both legs of the feeder
commoned at the Variometer to form a Marconi 'T' antenna, mean height 8m.

73 Ken M0KHW  IO91TV 


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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Ken Wright wrote:

> Hello all LF's
> 
>  
> 
> Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
> this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.
> 

Congratulations Ken and welcome aboard!

Yes the end date is 29th Feb for us all, unless (fingers, toes and 
everything else crossed) we can get an extension (and power increase?).

You've got on just at the right time, with autumn/winter conditions 
starting, the nights drawing in and the window of suitable propagation 
increasing day by day.

What are you thinking of using as TX, RX and antenna? Modes? 

Have you heard any signals yet on the band? You're in Luton so there 
should be plenty of local signals for you to hear/work. I'm a bit ore 
remote - up in Shetland! - so have to struggle to hear/be heard.

Best of luck
Please feel free to ask as many questions as you want, it's a steep 
learning curve down on 500, but great fun if you like getting your hands 
dirty and your soldering iron hot!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland, IP90gg

- webpages (new) showing my ramshackle setup at 
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm




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Hello Hartmut and Joe,
I have just controlled the frequency of my receiver I am with less 30mHz=20
of the true frequency! ...... (ADRET 730a + OCXO disciplined by GPS)=20
Joe, the package left today, are you receive the documents attached to=20
my email. I will listen to this night your beacon,
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hello Hartmut,
>
> Thank-you for sending the good news that the seagulls are gone
> and confirming that the frequency correction was accurate.
> Jean Pierre will be happy to learn this as it is now more
> likely the signals he received were from here.  This is
> impressive because there was a megawatt station on
> the air at the time and just 4.3 kHz away.
>
> The transmissions will continue until Saturday morning.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Joe,
>>
>> noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still
>> not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the
>> dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the
>> dashes are in a straight line.
>> Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance
>> +/- 0.05 Hz.
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,

I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest 
version

Thanks for the reports,

Graham ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Multpsk
>>
>> Amtor set -
>> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
>> mode
>>
>> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
>> - 200-
>>
>> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
>> over data stream
>
>
> I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
> shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
> option...it isn't there!
>
>
> I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
> for you. I must QRT now for bed!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
> 




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Hello Armin ,
Good signal in JN06HT ( see picture )
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Karl-Heinz Gansel a =E9crit :
> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH =3D JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to=20
> the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test.=20
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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It looks like the new Loran has started and the qrm is vy strong on 137 khz.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Mal/G3KEV



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Mal,

Many thanks for the comments.  If it is okay with you, I would like to incor=
porate them in a note on Loran for the next CREG Journal.

John F5VLF/G3PAI

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On 25/10/2007 at 15:20 hamilton mal wrote:

>John,
>Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, when
>located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
>My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will be
>fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
>or less.
>I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me
>in
>the past.
>
>MalG3KEV
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:51 PM
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Thank you everyone for your observations.
>
>Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in
>particular to 87-90kHz):
>
>"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations
>suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would
>increase by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the
>same amount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about
>5dB.
>
>How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the
>strength of other LORAN transmission."
>
>Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?
>
>73
>John F5VLF/G3PAI
>
>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
>On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:
>
>>Dear Gary, LF,
>>
>>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power
>200
>>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>>
>>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>>
>>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>>
>>
>>Hi Mal, LF,
>>
>>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>>ones.
>>
>>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly
>copy
>>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>>in
>>noise.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
>>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>>Subject: LF: loran
>>
>>
>>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz.
>I
>>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>>500
>>> etc, it is not necessry.
>>> 73 G3KEV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>






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Its a bit like having the first telephone ......

G ..


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> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your 
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>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
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> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
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>
>       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
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Thanks Andy - ran the basic prog and got my answers - now to fig out standar=
d values! Excellent - thanks


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Laurence.
You asked a question and you got a lot of advice about looking up web pages.=
 I do not know why someone did not give you the inductor/capicator values th=
at you require.
Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the required values.
de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses..
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You asked a question and you got a lot of advice abo=
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Hi  Jean Pierre,

Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.

Joe

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hi Joe ,
> I listening tonight
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Hi Nicolas and Warren,
> >
> > Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> > be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> > Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
> >
> > Joe VO1NA
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  s=
tart
> >> beaconing ?
> >> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183=20=
kHz 1
> >> MW,
> >> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> >>
> >> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> >> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> >> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> >> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Joe VO1NA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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Good T/A conditions last night. Very good copy of the QRSS3 signal
from WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz 00:25-02:06 UTC. Good peaks of the QRSS3
signal from WD2XSH/6 02:30-05:00 UTC.

>From the UK copied G0MRF (QRSS3), GI4DPE(CW) and GM4SLV (CW).

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hallo Finbar, John and ALL!
I can see two signals from UK early morning. It was very interesting to
study different time of QSB between them. Especially Finbar=B4s signal was
sometimes up to 25dB S/N strong and consecutively decreased to noise
level.=20
Thanks for beaconing, it is very useful! The same I have to say about
your grabber, John! =20
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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Hallo </span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=3D2=
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pan></font></st1:PersonName><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, John and
ALL!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>I can see two signals from UK early morning. It wa=
s very
interesting to study different time of QSB between them. Especially </span><=
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:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Finbar</span></font></st1:PersonName><font  size=
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gnal
was sometimes up to 25dB S/N strong and consecutively decreased to noise lev=
el.
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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Thanks for beaconing, it is very useful! The same=20=
I have to
say about your grabber, John! <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span><o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Graham,

Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!

or some of it.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Several tens of mV's  .... is that all !!!
>
> I can run a speaker off my ae (coil and diode) , check out where radio 
> merseyside is located .. :-(
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Subject: Re: LF: Local AM transmitter on PC output
>
>
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:
>>
>>> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
>>> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
>>> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
>>> view the AM on a scope.
>>>
>>> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
>>> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
>>> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
>>> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Andy,
>>
>> I think you're near Southampton?
>> Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power
>> filler - HI!)
>>
>> Found this listing too
>>
>> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>> Shetland
>>
>>
>>
>>
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David Pratt wrote:

> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence and 
> is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2. 

Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable (as 
required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of transmission, in 
the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" as defined.

The duty cycle of TX to RX isn't defined in the rules.

My own station occasionally operates in TX mode (an "initial call") from 
2300UTC to 0700UTC and then in RX mode "listening for replies" (as 
observable via http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm ) 
between 0700UTC and 2300UTC.

Unless of course it's being used for QSOs at times within these windows.

That should just about cover it?

Now. How about we get on and do some actual "self-training and 
investigations of a technical nature"?

John



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Hi all
Mf condx vy good at present.
Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band plus
some W stns.
Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO acty.
de G3KEV




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Some traces, at the beginning of night good copy of WD2XGJ!

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj









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Just got a bit more....

" G0nbd g0nbd  q1l  g0nbd@hotmaitAom cqcqcq test g0nds?@ "

Dave G3WCB

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [500] Re: Olivia data test


Well,

I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that may
be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during QSB
peaks.

 " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.




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Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .







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Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
afternoon here in bright sunshine.
Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after dark.
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!
WD2XGJ went QRT at 05:30 UTC - will stay on later tonight.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Much noise + qrn, some traces, over the morning good copy of WD2XGJ!
> 
> On 189 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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Hi all
I built a class E type TX in a couple of days, my own design layout etc and
kept it simple, but I am experienced having built equipment over the years
from the valve era, then transistors and today mostly IC technology. The
problem for most would be getting the components and this is where Radcom
falls down, not a single advert even for a resistor. The trouble with the
big suppliers like Farnell is the cost ie minimum order of =A320 each time a
component is required.
My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit the
cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find
it would not be published in Radcom.
My cct consists of an IC706 transmitting a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq
wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50
ohms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50
metres to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at about
33 metres vertical and the rest horizontal.
This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.
Most of the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. To
date it has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach would
be an EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.
The PA coil is about 50 years old,  ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with a
tinned copper winding, just right for the job. The condensers are also ex
equipment, high voltage.
Is Radcom interested???
73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Mode change

FEC  AMTOR    85 HZ SHIFT ,

CENT FREQ  502.8

Graham ..



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Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded, much
appreciated.
One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use the
4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band). Has
anyone seen a cct along these lines.
Tnx agn de Mal/G3KEV

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> Mal,
>
>   Yes, its on Lyle's web site:
> http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/
>
>  Look for the file mfj259.zip  halfway down the list of links on his page.
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> > Hi all
> > Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ
259
> > B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
> > de Mal/G3KEV
> >
> >
>
>



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Dear Johan,


Thank you for your email.

> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment=20
orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.

Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the advertis=
ers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless it paid f=
or the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.

I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive witho=
ut the ads.


> Some ad's=20
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive=20
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic=20
gadget..".

This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will=20=
print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they do=
n't want to alienate their advertisers.

I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent. Oth=
ers are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets, which=20=
said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread. Havin=
g read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many faul=
ts which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of uncritical re=
view loses respect for the magazine.


73,
Chris Trayner G4OKW

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WD2XGJ will be off tonight due to stormy weather conditions.


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?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried 
re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there 
been a windows xp-pro update ??

Tnx

Graham .. 




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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:47:33 +0000
k2ors@comcast.net wrote:

> I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in
> PHYSICS!!!!
> 


Yes, and I blew up the front end of my AR7030 RX while working him in
JT65A mode on 20m earlier this year... 

Cheers,

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Last night , nil on my sceen !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>
>> =20
>>> Hello Joe ,
>>> Last night , nothing here !
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>   =20
>>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     =20
>>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>>> I listening tonight
>>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>       =20
>>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM=20
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240=20
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         =20
>>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats=20
>>>>>>> time of  start
>>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station=20
>>>>>>> on  183 kHz 1
>>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          =20
>>>>> --=20
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
> Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are
> permitted to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
> We need two way communications for real time assessment of
> propagation and not ONE WAY.
> Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in
> BEACON mode but forget to mention that they would get the same
> reports if they were in QSO.I often get reports from near and far
> while in QSO mode. I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a
> selected part of the 500 khz band, like the German system and another
> for real  communications by real radio amateurs preferably using the
> traditional marine method of CW. G3KEV

Sorry Mal, but I don't understand.

How can one get a signal report, in a 2-way QSO on 500kHz, from OH, DL,
F, EA, LA and various non-NoV G stations? They can't operate on 500kHz.

Cross-band QSOs are no good - after all that would still be only ONE WAY
on 500 so a reception report of hearing a beacon is just as valid as a
cross-band QSO.


If I'm in a position to operate I will call CQ and listen for other
CQs. I've lost count of the CQs I've answered without being heard.
There are a lot of people out there that stuggle to receinve weak
signals due to their local noise floors.

I answer every station I hear, until I become convinced that they can't
hear me, for whatever reason and then give up, making a mental note to
try again if they are ever heard again at a better strength.


But if I can't be at the key then I see no harm in radiating a signal
for others to use. I presume that when you're not sending CQ on 502.5
that you are on other bands, persuing other interests? Leaving dead
stony silence on 500.

I'd rather give something back for others so I sometimes send a beacon,
but more usually I make available my receiving setup for others to use,
via my grabber. 

I also have live streaming audio from my receiver available via the
internet, but I'm not revealing here how to receive it! Anyone who
wants to know can contact me directly. 

These things are done as a service to others in the 500kHz community.

Better to be doing something useful while waiting for CW QSOs or
building gear to improve ones own station, than to sit there bashing
out terse emails deriding "appliance operators" and the inadequate
CW skills of the active NoV holders.

As I said previously "I have had over 50 QSOs,with at least 9 stations,
all in CW and all hand sent". I have never tried to work RTTY or PSK (I
tried to receive some as a help to someone else).

Am I unique in that my NoV actually states "A1A, CW" as the ONLY
permitted mode?


I don't restrict myself to BEACON MODE. However - how am I going to
know if a fleeting opening to W or VE occurs at 3am without some form
of pre-arranged overnight beacon. I can't sit bashing away at the key
overnight, I have a full time job to hold down.

I never even call CQ with any form of memory keyer - all my CW is live,
hand sent morse.


Please stop this "BEACONS BAD - CW GOOD" nonesense. Anything that helps
anyone get something new and educational from access to this part of
the spectrum should be applauded. 

I have absolutely no interst in working the "flavour of the month
DXpedition" on HF, nor of gaining DXCC/WAS/WAC or any other "stamp
collecting" award. 

I'm interested in building/improving my station in order to have REAL
CW QSOs. I have had many long chats, oftern of well over an hour long,
in CW on 500, despite shocking conditions and the ridiculous power
restrictions, during which I've done some real and interesting tests -
eg reducing TX power to 50mW - no rubber stamp "599 pse agn ur name
qth" QSO here.

 

John GM4SLV
IP90GG
Clousta, Shetland



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Thank-you again, Jean-Pierre.
It seems the HP 5382A has a TCXO output that can be
used to improve the carrier accuracy. Will try to use
this soon.

73 to all
Joe

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil also !......
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> > Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> > it has only 3 hours of listening there
> > (stop of ?Europe 183kHz? for maintenance)
> > 73 J-P f1afj
> >
> > Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> >> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
> >> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Joe
>
>

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Andy,

     I did a test last week with JT2 on 500kHz and unfortunately no one was able to decode it - not sure  what the problem was. I wonder if you have successfully used JT2? I loaded messages into the TX1 through TX6 boxes and pressed the corresponding button to the right of the box - noises came out the sound card and were sent out on 500kHz but no decodes despite multiple listeners.  If you could advise how to properly Tx that would be appreciated!  The program looks very interesting but the documentation is sparse at best.
  
   

--
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WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> I've been watching with interest the use of the narrow versions of the
> various data modes being used on the 500kHz band, and anyone who reads
> RadCom will see the mention I made in the Data Column last month of
> the parallel FSK and PSK31 trials..
> 
> Joe Taylor, K1JT has written a suite of programmes using
> multi-frequency FSK coupled with heavy source coding and forward error
> correction for extreme weak signal communications on VHF through to
> Microwaves, especially targetted at Tropo, EME and Meteor scatter.
> I mention it on this reflector as he has now introduced two new
> embryonic modes (JT2 and JT4) that include narrow shift options (a few
> tens of Hz overall) that may be well-suited to MF communications.
> 
> I suggest a visit to his web site to read up on the modes and
> techniques he employs, and download the latest version of WSJT.  The
> main web page doesn't mention JT2 / JT4, but the beta version at 5.9.8
> is detailed in the links shown here, and experimenters are invited to
> download an try it out.   There is quite a lot of description and
> theory supplied, and makes for a fascinating read!
> The heavy error correction and redundancy adds considerably to the
> weak signal capability.
> 
> Main WSJT site      http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/
> JT2/4 description     http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT2_JT4.TXT
> Download latest WSJT software
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT598.EXE
> 
> I implemented direct DDS-generated JT65B on the GB3VHF 2m beacon a
> couple of years ago, and the mode is now being used on the GB3RAL
> 40/50/60/70.05MHz beacon family.  Details of GB3VHF can be found on my
> web page shown below.  Reception reports all agree on the mode's
> extreme weak signal capability and a major improvenment over CW alone.
>  It will be interesting to see if the narrow band versions have
> anything to offer the lower end of the spectrum.
> 
> Be aware though, the JT modes do rely on quite accurate timing, and PC
> clocks need to be set to within a second or two of each other.
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 



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Graham, LF, Chris,

It's G3XIZ, running RTTY at 45.45 baud 85 Hz shift. Solid copy at this
location, received with WinWarbler v4.50.

Text received here as follows:-

"
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD

G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY
G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH
G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH
G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD
G3NZP   MALCOLM CRAWLEY
G3OLD   TOM     HONITON
G3ROO   IAN     DOVER
G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE
G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER
G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH
G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH
G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY
G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE
G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE
G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH
G3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL
G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM
G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM
G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD
G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS
G4GDR   ADRIAN  SWINDON
G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL
GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE
GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY
GM4ISM  MARK
GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND
GWGEUEP  ROG     CARDIGAN
GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST
M0BMU   JIM     HATFIELD
M0FMT   PETER   HOLWELL
M0KHW   KEN     LUTON

DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
etc, etc.
"

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England

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Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?

G ..






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> 
> I should be available from 11pm BST. Dust off the key! See you on the
> band.


Oh well, at least I tried ;-)

Called CQ for about 40 minutes on 502.5 from 21:40 to 22:20 UTC. No
takers so I'm afraid it's beacon mode for the night.

I'm really amazed at getting reports from OH/F/OK/EA and LA - there are
lots of people out there in other countries desperate to hear some CW
on 500 and unable to get permission to operate from their own
governments. Finland ans Sweden recently turned down attempts to get
amateur access for instance.

So if not at the key trying to work some UK stations lets give others
a chance to optimise their own receive setups and hear some CW.

It's not even unattended operation, I sleep in the shack ;-) 

Well I would if the XYL knew about the new IC-718 I haven't just
bought, "no dear, that's been hear for years, I'm sure you've seen it
before..."


73

John




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  Many thanks Hartmut for the report. It is gratifying to me to know my signal is reaching Germany. By my calculations it makes the trip 464.5 miles sorry 747.5km. My power to the antenna is about 7 to 8 watts which is within the spirit of the licence rules.
  The antenna is about 13m up and 40m long horizontal wid 4 ground radials.Matching coil is 100mm diam approx 320yH ant current about 0.5A. Top insulator plastic soon to be glass. 
  My location IO91UX is near Hitchin, my home town. It is a historical market town in North Hertfordshire about 70km due North of London.
  Once again thanks for the report.
  Very Best 73 Pete FMT.


Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:  Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,
GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ. G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz
upwards overnight.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on
505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp




       
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<FONT size=2>  <div>Many thanks Hartmut for the report. It is gratifying to me to know my signal is reaching Germany. By my calculations it makes the trip 464.5 miles sorry 747.5km. My power to the antenna is about 7 to 8 watts which is within the spirit of the licence rules.</div>  <div>The antenna is about 13m up and 40m long horizontal wid 4 ground radials.Matching coil is 100mm diam approx 320yH ant current about 0.5A. Top insulator plastic soon to be glass. </div>  <div>My location IO91UX is near Hitchin, my home town. It is a historical market town in North Hertfordshire about 70km due North of London.</div>  <div>Once again thanks for the report.</div>  <div>Very Best 73 Pete FMT.</div></FONT><BR><BR><B><I>Hartmut Wolff &lt;h-wolff@gmx.de&gt;</I></B> wrote:  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,<BR>GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.
 G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz<BR>upwards overnight.<BR><BR>Captures can be seen here:<BR>http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm<BR><BR>Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on<BR>505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.<BR><BR>73<BR>Hartmut<BR>www.h-wolff.de<BR>Locator: JO52hp<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;


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Laurence KL1X schrieb:
> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -

Laurence,

/6 received last night on 505.266 and /17 was the night before on 
505.259. /17 heard frequently on 505.75 in the past weeks.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp




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=20
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Ill be looking as well but the cranes are a bit noisy down there - I seem to=
 have a carrier on 187.349 which has some qsb on it so Ill try to find out w=
hich direction it isnt coming from.
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If anyone want to shove a signal out on 137Khz or whereever Ill be delighted=
 to look for you - any mode.
=20
I had a trace of  a "keyed carrier" on 505.180 last night - not a full ID bu=
t something just one hour after Eu darkness...interesting, and not very long=
.
=20
Laurence 9V1LF
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:30:54 -0230> From: jcraig@mun.ca> To: rsgb_lf_gr=
oup@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: 1600m QRV again> > > Many thanks to Jean Pi=
erre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX> is back on, just slightly off freque=
ncy but quite stable on> 187.3747 kHz, approximately.> > Signal reports and=20=
frequency measurements most welcomed.> > 73> Joe VO1NA> >=20
_________________________________________________________________
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Ill be looking as well but the cranes are a bit noisy down there - I seem to=
 have a carrier on 187.349 which has some qsb on it so Ill try to find out w=
hich direction it isnt coming from.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If anyone want to shove a signal out on 137Khz or whereever Ill be delighted=
 to look for you - any mode.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I had a trace of&nbsp; a "keyed carrier" on 505.180 last night - not a full=20=
ID but something just one hour after Eu darkness...interesting, and not very=
 long.<BR>
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Laurence 9V1LF<BR>
<BR><BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:30:54 -0230<BR>&gt; From: jcraig@mun.=
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:33:14 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> How can we have regular skeds when there are only 4 regular stations
> active, one on RTTY, one on CW, one on PSK and another only on BEACON
> mode. My previous message must have escaped YOU.
> 
> G3KEV
> 


Please can you identify the "only 4 regular stations active"?
Who is the unique "one on CW"?

On CW recently I've worked or heard :-

GI3PDN
GI4DPE
G3XVL
GM4ISM
G3DXZ
G3XIZ
G3UNT
G3KEV
GW4HXO
G3WCE

If I include myself that make a round 10.

I know there are others that I can't quite here from my far north
location. These are all CW stations. There have been off RTTY signals
heard too.

I make it more than your "one on CW" anyway.

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Roman,

Not sure on that , the signal was center freq , 503.3  , would of seen a 
band of 'noise' 85 hz wide for the fec , tending to  look like 2 tones at 
the edge , and the olivia looked like a  uniform 250 hz wide strip ..

thanks for looking , may be later in the year !

Graham

G0NBD
IO83LK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: ". Roman" <rw3adb@yandex.ru>
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Subject: Re: LF: MODE CHANGE -- AMTOR-FEC 85 HZ SHIFT .. 503.3 CENTER


> Hi Graham!
>
> not sure about your signal.
>
> I copy carrier with data on the 503.250
>
> looked into my spectran in qrss3.
>
> Look here:
>
> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/503.25/503.25.jpg
>
> Roman
>
>
>
> 16.10.07, 02:53, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
>
>
>
>> Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,
>
>> I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest
>
>> version
>
>> Thanks for the reports,
>
>> Graham ..
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>
>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:32 PM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: MODE CHANGE -- AMTOR-FEC 85 HZ SHIFT .. 503.3 CENTER
>
>> > On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
>
>> > "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >
>
>> >> Multpsk
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Amtor set -
>
>> >> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
>
>> >> mode
>
>> >>
>
>> >> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
>
>> >> - 200-
>
>> >>
>
>> >> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
>
>> >> over data stream
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
>
>> > shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
>
>> > option...it isn't there!
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
>
>> > for you. I must QRT now for bed!
>
>> >
>
>> > Cheers,
>
>> >
>
>> > John
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > -- 
>
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>
>> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date:
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>> > 10/15/2007 06:48
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>> >
>
>> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> 73!
>
> Roman, RW3ADB
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 10/15/2007 06:48
>
> 




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Hello LFers

I had previously described an antenna for 500kHz on this reflector which 
used an HF quad and its feeder fed against ground using a suitable ATU. 
The calculated gain of this antenna is around -20dBi.
This arrangement is described in the latest RadCom in the 'Antennas' 
column The caption should read 500kHz not 150kHz). This antenna worked 
well on receive and I heard OK0EMW's CW using it (thanks for the Rx QSL 
card Lubos).

I finally got around to making a transmitter. It comprises a PL509 sweep 
tube in class AB1 driven by my HB DDS (previously used for 73 and 136kHz).
My first QSO was with Chris G3XIZ who gave me 589. I was called by (I 
think) G3YHV but lost him due to QRN. I later tail ended GM4SLV in QSO 
with a G and after a difficult start (339) the signal improved to 559 
during the QSO and faded right out at the end.
Later I heard John working G3UNT. At that time I was unable to hear 
John. Later heard G3UNT (who has an S9 signal here) working F6CNI, 
PA4PCH and CT1ANZ cross band.
Thanks for a great QSO John. I now have the locator business sorted now.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO




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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:13:54 +0000
Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:


> 
> I finally got around to making a transmitter. It comprises a PL509
> sweep tube in class AB1 driven by my HB DDS (previously used for 73
> and 136kHz). My first QSO was with Chris G3XIZ who gave me 589. I was
> called by (I think) G3YHV but lost him due to QRN. I later tail ended
> GM4SLV in QSO with a G and after a difficult start (339) the signal
> improved to 559 during the QSO and faded right out at the end.

Hello Peter, LF,

Thanks for the info on your setup. I wondered about the "150kHz" bit in
RADCOM! Now I understand, a typo...

The G station you heard me working was G3YHV, Colin in Bristol. 

The band certainly shows some deep and slow QSB at times, but if you
persist long enough you'll work the station. I've had long (>1hour)
QSOs with GI4DPE back in July/Aug/Sept where we just kept going
regardless. Just when we thought it was prudent to give up the signal
would climb back out of the noise.

Nice to work you Peter, for the best UK DX on 500 so far - unless
someone knows better.

Anyone in GU/GJ reading this list and want to have a go...?

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Correction:
/17 was on 505.259 in QRSS3 last night, too. Copy started
at 21:45 when Dave was calling SM6BHZ.

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 Locator: JO52hp


> Laurence KL1X schrieb:
>> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -

> Laurence,

> /6 received last night on 505.266 and /17 was the night before on 
> 505.259. /17 heard frequently on 505.75 in the past weeks.

> 73
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Dr Wolf,

Everything is now, fine , I'm running the latest 'stable' version. I'm not 
sure as to what had happened, as initially, I re-installed over the existing 
file set , with no result.

I then,totally un-installed the software and directory using the uninstall 
function,  , re-installed,   its working fine

Whatever had happend, im not sure, the prog booted up , responded to  the 
menue's but there was no waterfall or spectrum display , as if the soundcard 
had not been selected.

Even if it only ran on a  tuesday morning , its still a very impressive 
analyser lol

Rgds

Graham ..


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Hello Graham,

I assume you use one of the "stable" (not "unstable") releases... I recently 
modified the buffer structure to support very long FFT's, which caused some 
problems with the memory allocation.

To get SpecLab running again without re-installing it, delete the files 
SETTINGS.INI and MCONFIG.INI in the SpecLab directory. This takes you back 
to the safe default values, and allows you to select one of the predefined 
settings from the main menu.

Best regards,
  Wolf  DL4YHF

(currently without internet access at home; sri for the ads adde by the 
webmail provider)

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Betreff: LF: Spec lab wont run ...... win xp-pro
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> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>

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There could have been a mutiny on the barque bringing it Dave !! :-))
Alan G3NYK

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> Glad I'm not the only one still waiting!!
> Thought 'the colonies' QTH may have had something to do with it--  
> perhaps not....
> Dave, ZL3FJ (member since 1968)




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Joe , are you ON now ? , because I receive traces on your frequency,
in spite of the splatters of =93Europe 1=94 I increased the sensitivity of
my RX this after midday (see the capture)
73 qro Jean-Pierre

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Ok Alan,

Yes, thats the best I could find ,  I was looking for the type 3386G, but=20
for some reason no 5k ... rapid , now =A34-50p under =A320 , It never occure=
d to=20
me that you could not just go  and buy a 4.7/5 k pot , Ic's from e-bay=20
bulgaria ,ok, but pot's . bit of a shock hihi

Tnx

Graham ..


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=20
2 ... looking for !!!


> Hi Graham try Rapid Electronics www.rapidelectronics.co.uk
> part number 67-0886 You will need to check the site because thta is from=20
> the
> 2006 paper cat. They have no min order but charge =A33 postage for orders
> under =A330.
>
> Many dont specify the pin spacing.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2
> ... looking for !!!
>
>
>> So far no good ,
>>
>> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,
> value
>> 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x=20
>> 10
>> mm
>>
>> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find
> any
>> amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there
> range
>> now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small
> sizes
>> ..
>>
>> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
>>
>> Tnx - Graham ..
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Good copy here Chris in Ipswich.

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Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?

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Hi,

I have been an RSGB member for quite a few years now and I agree with 
most of you that "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
orgy! The number of full-page ad's for multi-button appliances is 
asymptotically approaching 50% of the total number of pages. My 
"threshold of pain" has been reached long ago, I am saddened by this 
development and I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

The swedish ham magazine QTC seems to be following the same trend. 
Technical articles are beeing replaced by mega-multi-button 
advertisments and quantity seems to go before quality... Some ad's 
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive 
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic 
gadget..".

Think!

The future of amateur radio may already be behind us. :-(

73
Johan SM6LKM


Andy Talbot wrote:
> The two job titles that used to run the magazine
> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!



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20071025 2050z KP03SD

GI3PDN and GI4PDE have both been S1 over noise for a long time now on 502.5=20=
and
501.5kHz sending their initial calls.

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Hi Nicolas and Warren,

Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73

Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

>
> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  star=
t
> beaconing ?
> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kHz=
 1
> MW,
> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>
>
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>
>
>
> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>

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Hello all,

OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to 
the reflektor.

He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
 
technical Information:
TX:    X-tal exciter
Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader

His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
Please send him  receiving reports!

thank  you,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS







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hamilton mal wrote:
> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothing
> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!

You are right Mal. A miracle like digital signal processing or similar is 
needed... ;-)

73
Johan SM6LKM



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: LF: Re: MF GOOD


> .......and long-path condx very good on 160m in the morning. ZL7 and ZL3
> worked Friday, KH6AT and ZM1A both excellent signals this morning.
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
Well done, good dx. If we could get some of these 160 m operators interested
in 500 plus more permitted power this end it would make a big difference and
challenge to engage in some meaningful propagation studies and have some
real time QSO'S.
I have worked ZL and KH6 and KL7 in the past several times but not lately. I
must get up earlier in the mornings !!
73 Mal/G3KEV

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:06 AM
> Subject: LF: MF GOOD
>
>
> > Hi all
> > Mf condx vy good at present.
> > Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band
> > plus
> > some W stns.
> > Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO
acty.
> > de G3KEV
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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Jean-Pierre,

     Thanks for the report! WD2XGJ still QRP 250 watts.  QRO soon!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 23:30=>03:30  WD2XGJ
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hello Hartmut,

Thank-you for sending the good news that the seagulls are gone
and confirming that the frequency correction was accurate.
Jean Pierre will be happy to learn this as it is now more
likely the signals he received were from here.  This is
impressive because there was a megawatt station on
the air at the time and just 4.3 kHz away.

The transmissions will continue until Saturday morning.

73
Joe

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Joe,
>
> noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still
> not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the
> dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the
> dashes are in a straight line.
> Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance
> +/- 0.05 Hz.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>


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Strong signal Arnim,nice to see a new station at 137.702 KHz

GL 73
Victor
PA3FNY
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Gary

.... last report was from finland , bit of a leap from hitchin ... did you 
get a save of it ? , ive not seen it yet, was it showing at birmingham ? or 
shetland ?

whats the reoprts from south of watford gap , at 170 hz shift , I would of 
thought any station could of decoded it ?

Graham ,,


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Hi LF,
>
> I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
> ????
>
> ******************************
> 1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
> ******************************
>
> I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
> know in there - M0FMT ???
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY
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>
>> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Its not Me !
>>
>> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>>
>> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
>> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
>> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>>
>> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
>> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>>
>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>>
>> http://www.davesergeant.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Although there was no trace of the 187.37 kHz signals on
your spectra, the effects of the Europe1 broadcast on 183
kHz could be clearly seen and it seems that this part
of the band is fairly quiet between 2300 and 0200 UTC.
I hope to synchronise the transmissions with UTC and
improve the stability and accuracy of the carrier
frequency soon.

Thanks for monitoring!

73
Joe

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil nil nil !......
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>

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Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses..
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Hi all,

that explains why my introduction of DI2AM beacon vanished.
Instead of repeating it here a link :     =20

www.seefunk-fx-intern.de

Many thanks to all OM writing here which gave me a good possibility to evalu=
ate the efficiency of the beacon, esp. to GM4SLV.
73 gl cu (hopefully 2way on 600 mtrs in the future)

Joerg, DL3NRV



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> Betreff: LF: Re: Posting Question


>=20
> Hi Vern, attachments are accepted on the LF Group reflector but need to be
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> Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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I've been watching with interest the use of the narrow versions of the
various data modes being used on the 500kHz band, and anyone who reads
RadCom will see the mention I made in the Data Column last month of
the parallel FSK and PSK31 trials..

Joe Taylor, K1JT has written a suite of programmes using
multi-frequency FSK coupled with heavy source coding and forward error
correction for extreme weak signal communications on VHF through to
Microwaves, especially targetted at Tropo, EME and Meteor scatter.
I mention it on this reflector as he has now introduced two new
embryonic modes (JT2 and JT4) that include narrow shift options (a few
tens of Hz overall) that may be well-suited to MF communications.

I suggest a visit to his web site to read up on the modes and
techniques he employs, and download the latest version of WSJT.  The
main web page doesn't mention JT2 / JT4, but the beta version at 5.9.8
is detailed in the links shown here, and experimenters are invited to
download an try it out.   There is quite a lot of description and
theory supplied, and makes for a fascinating read!
The heavy error correction and redundancy adds considerably to the
weak signal capability.

Main WSJT site      http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/
JT2/4 description     http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT2_JT4.TXT
Download latest WSJT software
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT598.EXE

I implemented direct DDS-generated JT65B on the GB3VHF 2m beacon a
couple of years ago, and the mode is now being used on the GB3RAL
40/50/60/70.05MHz beacon family.  Details of GB3VHF can be found on my
web page shown below.  Reception reports all agree on the mode's
extreme weak signal capability and a major improvenment over CW alone.
 It will be interesting to see if the narrow band versions have
anything to offer the lower end of the spectrum.

Be aware though, the JT modes do rely on quite accurate timing, and PC
clocks need to be set to within a second or two of each other.

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


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Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
good luck with low QRM and QRN.

73
Joe

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
> Last night , nothing here !
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Hi  Jean Pierre,
> >
> > Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Joe ,
> >> I listening tonight
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> >>
> >>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
> >>>
> >>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> >>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> >>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
> >>>
> >>> Joe VO1NA
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of=20=
 start
> >>>> beaconing ?
> >>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  18=
3 kHz 1
> >>>> MW,
> >>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> >>>>
> >>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> >>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> >>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> >>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Joe VO1NA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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>
>

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Hi LF,

I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
????

******************************
1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
******************************

I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
know in there - M0FMT ???

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>
>> Its not Me !
>
> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>
> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>
> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 



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Hi Brian, LF,

Your normal speed CW good in NW UK at about 1947 utc, capture attached.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Mal, LF,

yesterday I reactivated my 100 kHz Loran monitor and set it up to look for t=
he new signal from Anthorn, assuming it would simply replace Rugby on timesl=
ot 6731-Y. However no trace was seen, neither at the old emission delay posi=
tion (27.3 ms, plus receive path difference), nor anywhere else when searchi=
ng between 6731-X and 6731-Z.

Is the new transmitter operating continuously, or still spaoradically on a t=
est schedule? Is it emitting proper Loran frames at the right repetition rat=
e (ie. spectral lines at 7.4283 Hz multiples)? Can anyone perhaps confirm in=
formation on the emission delay?

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: loran


> John,
> Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, whe=
n
> located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
> My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will b=
e
> fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
> or less.
> I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me=20=
in
> the past.
>=20
> MalG3KEV
=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mal, LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yesterday&nbsp;I reactivated my 100 kHz Lor=
an=20
monitor&nbsp;and set it up to look for the new signal from Anthorn, assuming=
 it=20
would simply replace Rugby on timeslot 6731-Y. However no trace&nbsp;was see=
n,=20
neither at the&nbsp;old emission delay position (27.3 ms,&nbsp;plus=20
receive&nbsp;path difference), nor anywhere else when searching between 6731=
-X=20
and 6731-Z.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is the new transmitter operating continuous=
ly, or=20
still spaoradically on a test schedule?&nbsp;Is&nbsp;it emitting&nbsp;proper=
=20
Loran frames at the right repetition rate (ie. spectral lines&nbsp;at 7.4283=
 Hz=20
multiples)? Can anyone perhaps confirm&nbsp;information on the&nbsp;emission=
=20
delay?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "hamilton mal" &lt;</FONT><A   href=
=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>g3kev.ham@vir=
gin.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:20=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: Re: Re: loran</FONT></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt; John,<BR>&gt; Loran is now audible clicking away si=
nce it moved to=20
its new location, when<BR>&gt; located at Rugby it was just about visible bu=
t=20
not audible with me.<BR>&gt; My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West=20=
from=20
me I suppose it will be<BR>&gt; fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from m=
e it=20
was in my loop null, more<BR>&gt; or less.<BR>&gt; I have not carried out an=
y=20
exact measurements, since it did not bother me in<BR>&gt; the past.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; MalG3KEV<BR>&nbsp;<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
> 
> Gary.
> 
> 
Here you are Graham and the LF group 


g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n



error free!

I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
into/below the noise.



-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Much noise + qrn, some traces, over the morning good copy of WD2XGJ!

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Running , but had to  totally remove from the pc and re-load .. odd .. never 
seen it lock before ..

G ...


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> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried 
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there 
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
>
> Tnx
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> Graham ..
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Nope, not guilty!

I've just got back from a couple of weeks holiday in Devon. G3WCE is Bruce
Edwards. He used to live near me in Ruislip, but moved away a while ago. I
think he lives in Alan G3NYK's area now.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:46:51 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.
>

Hi Gary,

That's what I was thinking as I heard " G  3  W  C  ..." expecting a
"B" next, even started to write it down as G3WCB in anticipation!

I have some of the CQs recorded on mp3.

He was there for long enough,and at good enough strength to read Q4-5
in the end and it was certainly G3WCE.

Shame I couldn't raise him though.


Cheers again,

John






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Thanks Hartmut for the report and the confirmation of
the frequency as 'close to 187.3703 kHz.'

I hope J-P can copy the sigs soon.  Alan G3NYK says conditions
are good at the moment.

Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Copied 2 "N"s last night. Faint traces were visible until 05:00.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
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> Locator: JO52hp
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Don't be put off by the need for house styles etc - if you do look at
the articles that have made it in the past, they were all in the
authors own words.  The peer review is more or less a rubber stamp if
the article in straightforward and constructional- if its about zero
loss magnetic loops that would be a different matter)

As for the need for repeatability, say so.  If you've done a one off
with components from the junk box it still be of interest and that
won't stop the editors / TC, but be prepared for a lot of questions
from constructors

I've been following the way this thread has developed with
considerable interest, and am actually rather pleased that the problem
appears to be worldwide.  Now I do know its not a personal radcomic
thing, but is part of a more general malaise.  Can be assume either
that :

1)

They DO WANT TO PUBLISH TECHNICAL ARTICLES (shouting intentionally)
but as there are so few being written the general trend is to

>I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
>been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
>some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
>provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
>of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
>work first time.... )
>
>
>What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
>not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
>"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
>circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
>experimentation."
>
>The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
>and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
>alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
>component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
>it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!
>
>RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.


On 29/10/2007, Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:
> John, LF,
>
> you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/
>
> If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM
> (W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much
> about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in
> RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the
> legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder
> melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> > BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of
> > SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?
>
>
>


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>
>
> The future of amateur radio may already be behind us. :-(
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
>
Hi Johan, LF
i am afraid that the problem of technical  info  in our hobby magazines  
is only a tiny fraction of a  far more dangerous one , much more 
fundamental.
i have an academic post  with  the university. i give lectures in math  
and quantum chemistry.  there is a dramatic  drop
 in the basic knowledge of math and physics  among students. this 
situation  can be observed  in the recent decade or  so.  Moreover,
it is even a sort of a "fashion" to know almost nothing about  math and 
physics.  when the battery in a pocket calculator dries out it is
almost a 'total disaster' . I am not surprised  that this 'fasion'  
gets  into our radioamateur magazines .
coming back to the main issue. here, in  poland, we have  two magazines  
devoted to our hobby  and it is exactly the same i.e. the number
of ads is growing , there are more and more 'beautiful' pictures  of  
yaesu, icom, kenwood radios  and , at the same time, technical info is  
confined into
5-6 pages out of  about 100 .
the young people across the world  have   mobile phones, PMR's , LPD's  
no licenses  no knowledge needed.. well Johan i am afraid  you are right
                   
                                                                                               
73, peter,   SQ7MPJ
                                                            


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Hi Mal, LF,

After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons 
with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 % 
more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous 
ones.

I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy 
his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried in 
noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: LF: loran


> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
> etc, it is not necessry.
> 73 G3KEV
>
>
>
> 

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Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!

I will correct this error as soon as possible.

I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here than bef=
ore,
at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.

How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to hear o=
r
see signals from them yet.

73's

Paul-Henrik

Quoting uwe-jannsen@versanet.de:

> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> your log indicates that DI2BE transmits on 501kHz.
> but it is and was 505,140.12kHz.
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv
>
> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>
> > Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in
> > OH/KP03SD at
> > 17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once
> during
> > the past week.
> >
> > As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although=
 it
> > would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lac=
k
> of
> > 2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the
> > breaktrough from
> > happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular
> > basis" but
> > your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here.
> > Late night
> > propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with
> > plenty of time
> > for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in
> > normal CW:
> > http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt
> >
> > The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot
> here
> > during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best=20=
for
> > DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over
> noise.
> > That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well
> > aware of
> > the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-m=
eter
> > needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with
> > 10W EMRP if
> > I remeber correctly.
> >
> > So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other
> > countries as
> > well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.
> >
> > 73's
> >
> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD
> >
> > Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:
> >
> >> Hi all
> >> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more
> international
> >> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of=20=
the
> >> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137
> given
> >> that there is some other acty on the band.
> >> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions,
> nothing
> >> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sor=
t
> >> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
> >> de G3KEV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>




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Laurence,

Thanks for the report. I had not planned to run last night, but saw 
Warren's signal, and thought it would be interesting to make some 
comparisons. There will be no WD2XES operation for the next three nights.

John A.


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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:28:53 +0000
Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> 
> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just
> a small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come
> back...will this list only accept text messages and block any type of
> attachments.
> 
> Vern - VE1VDM
> 

Hi Vern,LF

No - the list doesn't block all attachments, but has a size limit of
around 30kB.

Cheers,

John


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137kHz:
The 137 kHz rx was off for about 1 month. It was nice to see some
activity. Copied UA4WPF and DJ6GT.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz:
Very good T/A conditions last night. Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW
23:30-02:01 UTC. The QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 was visible
01:25-05:55 UTC with deep fading periods. Best around 05:40 UTC.
>From the UK copied G0MRF.

Capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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LF Hello!

Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z

Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500kHz
operator list I have.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD

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Hi Pete, LF,

Thanks for confirming that, several of us up here had been getting bursts of 
RTTY but no announcment on LF, when I spotted the bursts I put the RTTY 
decoder on the frequency & the only bits of text I resolved was your call 
sign & a couple of times I read "MW ERP". The bursts I was hearing were no 
more than a few seconds long.

As you probably know, Graham G0NBD & I have been experimenting with various 
data modes, my bit mainly narrow shift RTTY with my class D Tx.

73

Gary - G4WGT


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi all
>
>  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503. 
> 20:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
>  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really 
> renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there 
> is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. 
> Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 
> 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel 
> Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-)
>
>  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS 
> BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT 
> BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "
>
>  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....
>
>  Pete FMT vy 73



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Sorry I asked lol ... Not sure if thats a 'good' test signal .... ?

I dident have the rx on this eveing, just spotted the end on the grabber 
...s

Tnx - Graham .


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: [500] RE: whos on 502 Khz ??


> Graham, LF, Chris,
>
> It's G3XIZ, running RTTY at 45.45 baud 85 Hz shift. Solid copy at this
> location, received with WinWarbler v4.50.
>
> Text received here as follows:-
>
> "
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
> LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
> G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
> G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
> G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
> G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
>
> G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY
> G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH
> G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH
> G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD
> G3NZP   MALCOLM CRAWLEY
> G3OLD   TOM     HONITON
> G3ROO   IAN     DOVER
> G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE
> G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER
> G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH
> G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH
> G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY
> G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE
> G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE
> G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH
> G3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL
> G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM
> G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM
> G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD
> G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS
> G4GDR   ADRIAN  SWINDON
> G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL
> GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE
> GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY
> GM4ISM  MARK
> GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND
> GWGEUEP  ROG     CARDIGAN
> GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST
> M0BMU   JIM     HATFIELD
> M0FMT   PETER   HOLWELL
> M0KHW   KEN     LUTON
>
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
>
> LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
> G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
> G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
> G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
> G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
> etc, etc.
> "
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 20 October 2007 23:16
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: whos on 502 Khz ??
>
>
> Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 
> 10/19/2007 17:41
>
> 




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I've also noticed the trend, my renewal came up a couple of weeks ago and i
agonised as to whether it was still worth having. I decided to continue
ONLY to support the RSGB for what it does for us in the wider arena, not
for any expectation of the content of RADCOM. Yesterday I read radcom on
the train, after about 10 minutes I had read all I found interesting in it.=20

peter G8AFN

Original Message:
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From: Andy Talbot andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:52:49 +0100
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RADCOM


My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(

Andy  G4JNT


On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> >
> > G3KEV
> >
> >
> Hi Mal
>
> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> read, so little time!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
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Hello LF,

A good night on 500, with several people making many first class
QSOs on CW - including my first MF QSO with Colin G3VTT, which was a 
great thrill.

I eventually had to retire to bed though!

I sent my "beacon" (or "initial call" - hi!) signal overnight to give
something for others to hear.


In the past few days I've received reports from several stations, 2 of
them have been new to 500 listening, enthusing about hearing something
on 500. Without the "pseudo-beacons" they'd tune right past, assuming
the band was dead.

Now they know that some good work is going on here, will come back to 
hear real QSOs and......might even get involved!

This is a "very good thing"!!



This morning I received a very nice email from a listener
in Scandinavia, extracts of which I'll quote below:-

>> You do a great job guys, keep the good signals coming on 500!

>> NOV licensees can't make QSO's 24/7/365 so that there would be 
>> something on the air to monitor for the others without a key to 
>> grab.


On the overnight "beacons" :

>> I find it great that other people can listen in when they have time
>>  for it and condx happens to show it's shiny side.

>> As opposed to 505.1 one may be rewarded with hearing some real 
>> action too from time to time. It's not just about UK-UK QSO's in 
>> the end. The whole Europe is listening for your signals


This type of message makes it all worthwhile for me. He is typical of
most people... they like to hear real QSOs, but are glad of ANY signal
on the band that may be there when they get a few minutes in the shack. 
It is also a reminder that we are in a very special position in the UK, 
and our use of the band is of great interest to other European countries 
too. Let's give them something to listen out for....!


Another take on "beacons"....

My grabber is used by many people - to see the state of the band, or to
check their own signals. By sending a long "initial call" (or "beacon")
they can follow the signal here as it rises and falls in the QSB. This
allows for near-real time propagation experiments when no QSO partner
can be found.

Of course a QSO would add greatly to the value, as questions can be 
asked and answered and changes to power etc. made, but we can't always 
be as lucky as we were last night!


Real "DX" station in VE and W are also trying to hear us, to see what
the chances of transatlantic working would be given better power and
wider availability of access. A publicized long "initial call" is a 
great assistance to them. They can listen at the best time for 
propagation (ie when we're all in bed!) and will know what frequency to 
concentrate on.



We can all argue over the legal niceties of "beacons", as applied to our 
activities, but where there's good and valuable work to be done and 
enthusiastic people to do it there's always a way, within the confines 
of the current rules. It just depends on how you interpret them ;-)



A great night on 500.

QSOs galore and beneficial effects from the "beacons" too.

The best of both worlds surely?

I'll end with this...

One email received this morning from another new 500 listener in
GM-land, reporting my "beacon" said:

>> Good luck, true Amateur Radio.

What more can I say?

Keep up the good work guys.

Best regards,

John GM4SLV


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.... Lol=20

Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the locator square ? , altitu=
de ? i was just wondering , exactly where the signal go's , as it never show=
s too well at Bham but allways gets  to  shetland !

fine on the musical sound , yes I think the system is a pinch from 'piccolo'=
 system, but the results looked better than the strait rtty and psk, problem=
 is , its a bit like having the first telephone ... no one to  call :-)

later in the week, I'll try  olivia ~ amtor/fec  as the latter can be genara=
ted using a simple 'fsk' modulator driven by , say , a pk232=20

Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:01 PM
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  Late report - Graham - It was also good audible copy here on the Derbyshir=
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  =20
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  > I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
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  > John GM4SLV
  > IP90gg
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Hi LF,

Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong and 
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73

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Just a thought you could use the divide chip as a DAC  and generate a
stepwise sinewave and then filter ??

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Mal,
>
> The harmonic content of a divider's rectangular waveform would be a
> problem for the wideband detector circuitry in the analyzer. The
> waveform is typically not an issue for a classic bridge with a receiver
> for a detector, as the harmonics are ignored.
>
> If you could incorporate a good low pass filter to take out the third
> harmonic and above, then your idea should work.
>
> John A.
>
> hamilton mal wrote:
> > Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded,
much
> > appreciated.
> > One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
> > divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use
the
> > 4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band).
Has
> > anyone seen a cct along these lines.
>



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Dear all,

after reading this below about the improving autumn winter conditions I
also decided to give it a try, and around midnight UTC 3rd to 4th of
October 2007 I received the GI4DPE beacon on
(about) 501,4 kHz audible up to 449 in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria, Germany.


Best aerial was a single turn wire loop with a circumference of about
15 meters pointing north (installed for SAQ reception). Slight fading,
due
to QRN I needed some
time until all letters were repeatedly received correct.

The beacon signal disappeared at about 00.25 UTC and did not return
within the next half hour. 

This is the first station under the british NOV rule which I could
receive by ear. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

<phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Copied GM4SLV beacon aural-CW Q3 at 19.08UTC with fast QSB
> 
> BR
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> KP03SD, Vaasa, Finland
> 
> 
> 



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How about the strange new appearances? I was intrigued by 'Radio Sports' and
had visions of pole vaulting with 136KHz verticals, throwing the FT817 and
weight lifting with the R-390. But no, just more contests.....

73s
Paul   g8gja

-----Original Message-----
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My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(

Andy  G4JNT


On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> >
> > G3KEV
> >
> >
> Hi Mal
>
> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> read, so little time!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
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Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on 501.5kHz. He was=20=
a Q3
copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.

As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another QS=
O. A
QRZ at Q5 was called a few 100Hz below.

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






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Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:


>
> There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
>
Hello John,
p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an amateur-
station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
gl and thanks for the grabber.
Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv




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Dear John,

last night your and Finbar's signals were not as clear as the night
before, but I guess we will have to live with such variations until
(hopefully) You will be allowed more ERP.

I will continue to observe the 500 kHz band, although not report every
day. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
> On 15 Oct 2007 23:34 GMT
> hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:
> 
> > Dear all, 
> > 
> > just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz
> > apart, GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at
> > 501,4 kHz and 501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have
> > some QSB, GI4DPE more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about
> > the same level.
> > 
> > Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 
> > 
> > As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a
> > regular possibility in autumn and winter nights.
> > 
> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the great report Ha-Jo! This is very pleasing. The distance
> is around 1500km. I'm interested that Finbar's signal had more QSB, but
> that we were both similar in peaks!
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
> 
> 
> 



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Last night two GI stns active on beacon and the interestingt part was the
variations in strength. GI4DPE increased in strength to 599 as the night
progressed and remained fairly steady but some other nights the signal goes
from S9 to zero for brief periods.
GI3PDN signal peaked the odd time to S8 but the QSB was severe on this
signal all of the time that I listened.
It seems propagation on 500 changes daily or hourly,  some vy strong signals
at times and other times signals are barely readable.
This applies both day and night.

73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Hi Paul-henrik
Thats a great name for CW hid
If you could get an antenna up for 80 or 40m it would be great for xband and
other UK stations would also be interested in a xband QSO.
73 and tnx the report
Mal/G3KEV

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Again, very beautiful early signals from UK on 500.

16.43z G3KEV calling X-band CQ on 502.5kHz at S0.5 over noise, a perfect
easy
copy. QSX announced for 3533 and 7033kHz. Sadly it is not possible for me to
reply on either QRG as my only wire-antenna span is in use for RX on 500.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Here  here.
   
  I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh?
   
  73 petefmt

hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
  Hi all
Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160
m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.
The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all
about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put
this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be
any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance
operator, bar a few who can work CW.
Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance of
working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode
and no chance for a QSO.
Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same
wayt as 136 khz DEAD
Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500
has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.


de G3KEV





       
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<div>Here&nbsp; here.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>hamilton mal &lt;g3kev.ham@virgin.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi all<BR>Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160<BR>m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.<BR>The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all<BR>about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put<BR>this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be<BR>any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance<BR>operator, bar a few who can work CW.<BR>Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance
 of<BR>working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode<BR>and no chance for a QSO.<BR>Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same<BR>wayt as 136 khz DEAD<BR>Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500<BR>has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.<BR><BR><BR>de G3KEV<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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A night of 'short' beeps for a change ,  hihi.

Most signals peaked round the S5 yourself and ray gi4pdn  , also  g3ldo, 
looks like i missed the other two stations

G ..



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> Hello LF
>
> I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> light pollution!
>
> I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
>
> Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
>
> G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
>
> and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
>
> Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
>
> My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
>
>
> I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> ongoing somewhere within radio range.
>
> Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
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> Clousta, Shetland
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Frank,

I am seeing a keyed carrier on 136.3205 at 2315 UTC. I will keep watching.

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Hello all,

I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest to
some of you 500khz folks.

GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.
Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish DGPS
station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.

Receiver - R75
Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire N/S
Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center
Software - Spectran / Argo

I will keep watching for others as conditions improve

Best regards,

Vernon - VE1VDM


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<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Hello all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>I had posted this on the NDB 
list but thought it might be of interest to some of you 500khz 
folks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was 
copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc. Transatlantic conditions were very 
good at the time with the Irish DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as 
Irish NDB&nbsp;FNR-402.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Receiver - 
R75</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Antennas - 2000' unterminated 
wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire&nbsp;N/S </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 
400hz center</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Software - Spectran / 
Argo</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>I will keep watching for others 
as conditions improve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Best 
regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Vernon - 
VE1VDM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Mal,

who is to blame ?
Does Radcom refuse to publish technical articles to keep more space 
for adds and "fairy tales" ?
Or is there not enough entry of technical articles?

I am closely cooperating with the editor of the UBA magazine 
(CQ-QSO), every time it is a struggle to enough "input" to fill the 
magazine with interesting stuff.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 10:55 25/10/2007, you wrote:
>Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
>after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. The
>actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
>magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
>and very little construction projects.
>If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
>ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. Some
>thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
>technology.
>Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd tech
>article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
>favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
>Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
>being published.
>Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
>systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>Does anyone else have an opinion.
>Mal/G3KEV


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Your beacon has been Q3 to Q5 for a good while here now about 200Hz above
Finbar. Finbar is a tad stronger. Good signals!



Quoting Michael Probert <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>:

> Many thanks Paul- Henrik/Graham/Gary,
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> Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the help of GI4DPE.
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> As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another
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Hello Joe ,

Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
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Thanks for that Alan!

On the visual Au front. Last year wasn't too good for them but 2 or 3 
years ago there seemed to be a good number of them nicely spread over 
the mid-winter. Last night's display was the second one I've seen so far 
this winter, and it's only October. Hopefully there will be more to see.

Perhaps 6 years ago we had an excellent Au season. Sometimes the display 
was bright enough to be visible from inside the house through the 
window. One memorable night we were all at the pub (no connection to 
seeing lights in the sky) and were keeping a regular Au watch after 
several previous good displays. I went out to observe the northern sky 
and was disappointed to see nothing. Turning around to return to the 
warm bar I faced due south and saw an amazing display, red/green 
curtains shimmering, in the southern sky! We were actually looking at 
the rear end of the auroral oval as the annular ring sank further south. 
I think it was seen as far south as France that night. That night we 
kept watch from within the pub, as its picture windows face south...

Cheers,

John



On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi Dave, yes indeed.
> 
> There are two main sources of geomagnetic storm "stimulation". The first is
> the well known Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that emanate from the area of
> sun-spots and are usually associated with flares,but can be ejected by some
> non-flare proceses as well. These are common at the Solar max when the
> Sun-spot count is, of course, high. The type of shock we experienced the
> other day which caused the aurora and and has been happening at irregular
> intervals throughout these quiet years is known as a "coronal hole event"
> this is a "tear" in the solar atmosphere which results in the spin off of
> coronal material (Hydrogen ions and electrons), much the same as the
> background "solar wind" The presence of a coronal hole is like somone in the
> garden with a hose being called from the house and swinging round drenching
> everyone as the spray sweeps round. The speed of the cooronal hole flow is 2
> or three times the speed of the normal solar wind so it causes a magnetic
> shock to the geomagnetic field. Some of the plasma, mainly Hydrogen ions and
> electrons are able to enter the earths field at the poles, spiralling down
> the lines of force to create the magical auroral "curtains" described by
> John.
> 
> All is not over however as the rest of the "spray" sweeps by and some is
> sucked into the magnetic "tail" of the Earth's field a bit like when you
> drive a hatchback with the tail-gate slightly open and the exhaust fumes
> enter the car. These ions and electrons are drawn back into the Equatorial
> Ring Current in the Van Allen Belt and form a reservoir of "hot" electrons
> which are bled into the ionosphere at the sunrise edge where the earth's
> field is distorted by the pressure of the solar wind. These diffuse down
> into the D-layer are "hot" and long lived, and give the excess night-time
> attenuation experienced at LF after a "magnetic storm". This even persists
> for days after the Kp index has returned to normal low or quiet levels.
> After severe storms the ring current can be so highly populated that LF
> signals can often be depressed for 3 or 4 weeks. This generally only happens
> around the Solar max. and after Kp=9 events.
> 
> Phew.....well you DID ask Dave !!
> 
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Visual Aurora and good condx
> 
> 
> > On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:
> >
> > > Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> > > pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> > > The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> > > things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> > > present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> > > may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.
> >
> > Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at
> > the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been
> > at rock bottom for weeks on end?
> >
> > Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A
> > index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is
> > currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.
> >
> > But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening
> > all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys
> > playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in
> > the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.
> >
> > What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do
> > with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to
> > produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art
> > (and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).
> >
> > By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night
> > but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far.
> > Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep
> > QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray
> > at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting
> > 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).
> >
> > Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band
> > configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if
> > we still have NOVs.
> >
> > 73 Dave G3YMC
> >
> > http://www.davesergeant.com
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Dear all,

heard GM4SLV beaconing again around 23.30 UTC and 0.25 UTC on 501,6 kHz,
weak, but could be identified by ear.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> Alberto,
> 
> that kind of connector is still available and is called
> "Micro Ribbon". 14, 24, 36 and 50 pole versions are common.

Johan,

   thank you indeed. If I won't be able to find the cable already made, I will order the connectors from that Swedish 
firm and wire it myself (it will take some patience...)

---------------

 > Hi Alberto
 >
 > If it is 24 pins perhaps a GPIB cable would do the job?
 >
 > regards
 >
 > Nigel

  Nigel,

   thanks to you too. Indeed the connector is identical to a GPIB connector, but with a subtle difference. The GPIB 
connector has two small bolts on the sides, allowing two connectors to be stacked and bolted together.
This connector instead has two "ears", meant to be latched to the wire retaining clamps present on the female connector
on the instrument's panel.

Probably a GPIB cable could be used, but without any provision to firmly seat the connectors in place.

TNX es 73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Warren,

> Hartmut,
>> The new ones heard last night:
>   Are these NDB's ?
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS

yes, send to the wrong list. Sorry.

73
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Hi Mal,
I share your frustration at the lack of Component adverts - but I think the 
series of "Homebrew" articles by Eamon Skelton EI9GQ has been brilliant.

If you look at a magazine like Dubus, the content seems much more technical.
One of my grumbles is the size of the photographs - particularly the insides 
of equipment. You will often get a lovely big picture of a group of 
amateurs, alongside of a microscopic image of the equipment they were using.
Or the reviews of new radios will have inside views, but so small as you 
can't see any detail - what use is that ?

How did people ever find the TIME to do all this building, I don't seem to 
have time to even do any operating !
There's no doubt about it, nostalgia just ain't what it used to be ...
Radio is a very diverse hobby, I'm sure there are many who enjoy reading the 
"league tables" and contest reports, it's all amateur radio. Not everybody 
is interested in building things ... shame.

Hugh M0WYE



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: LF: RADCOM


> Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
> after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. 
> The
> actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
> magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
> and very little construction projects.
> If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
> ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. 
> Some
> thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
> technology.
> Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd 
> tech
> article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
> favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
> Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
> being published.
> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and 
> antenna
> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
> Does anyone else have an opinion.
> Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> 



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LF,

Last night I had great trouble with the antenna tuning - match varying
wildly. Today in the light of day I can see why.

2 of the sloping capcity wires have come adrift from their supporting
guys and are flapping free, still connected to the apex of the
vertical. No wonder it was hard to keep tuned!

I'll be unable to repair it until Tuesday, as XYL and me are off the
island from tomorrow for the weekend (she's running inthe Loch Ness
Marathon in Inverness).

The grabber is still available.



I've added some more pics and sound clips of signals received (both
here and from further afield) to my developing 500 web-pages.

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm


Cheers,

John


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Sri - we're being rather parochial.  Radcom is the magazine of the
RSGB, for members only.  It used to be half full of  technical
articles with the rest made up of operating, news and events.   Now it
seems to be all about events, people, HF contesting, amateur radio
celebrities and holiday photographs; what technical stuff it pretends
to include under that category consists of a beginners / homebrew
column, which to be fair is very good - if you're a beginner!  There
is a regular column which has the audacity to be called "Technical
Topics" but is more of a nostalgia trip for its writer and ought to be
called radio history.  Another column "In Practice" often carries the
only circuit diagrams to be found in some months' issues.  There are
some other regular columns which were originally meant to be operating
based, but some of the authors of those (I'm one) include mainly
technical matters to try to make up for the rest of the magazine.
What is lacking, and gives the magazine its boring image is the lack
in recent years of full blown constructional or technical articles.

As someone who took to writing technical articles for magazines about
a decade ago, and have written quite a few since, all I can say is
give it a go.   I found that the real difficulty to producing any
article is making the start.  If you are writing about something
you've done, and completed to your satisfaction, once the first bit is
started the  words will flow.   Diagrams and cross references
generally take up the most time (and cause most errors).   Diagrams
are always redrawn so you don't have to be too particular about
supplying neat ones.

In particular, they are interested in the shorter weekend project,
typically one to two pages (1000 - 2000 words approx) and the largest
likely to get into print these days runs to 4 pages - that appears to
be a dictate from high and does preclude some really good big things.

Anything submitted to Radcom these days has to be passed by the RSGB's
Technical Committee (TC), and they usually offer a few helpful
comments if any changes are needed.   The editor himself is an
experienced writer, and can, if needed, make a superb job of editing
the English / grammar etc.  My first experience of Giles was when the
article on the Bell Hill microwave beacons had to be cut from 6 to 4
pages.   (Considering we'd already had a very intensive editing
session to get th eoriginal size down as requested by TC, he managed
to reduce the size by a further 33% without losing anything of the
content).

Enough of that parochial rant, this reflector isn't really the place,
we should be trying to influence the Board / editors really.  But
there are a lot of subscribers to this reflector who do produce
interesting technical stuff, and the magazine does have a dearth of
stuff.   Give writing a try - it gets very addictive after a while.

Andy  G4JNT


On 25/10/2007, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get access?
>
> many thanks
> vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
> ________________________________
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
> G0MRF@aol.com
> Sent: 25 October 2007 16:03
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: 500 LF: RADCOM
>
>
>
> Thank you Andy.
>
> I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced
> recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and
> found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up call.
> There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when technical
> articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to appear.
> I wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being
> published?
> Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an individual
> and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to give
> 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.
> 1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering but
> without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks and
> a binocular microscope to build it.
> 2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key components
> for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
>
> This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG and
> Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
> comercial equipment exists.
> Of course, something working against this process at present is that 500kHz
> is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
> Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
> nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
> Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
> definable?
> Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
>
> Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
> 03/08.
>
> So many things to do, so little time.
>
> 73
>
> David  G0MRF
>
> In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
> andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:
> How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
> tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
>
> Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
> is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
> sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>


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Dear Gary, LF,

Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.

No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: loran


Hi Mal, LF,

After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
ones.

I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried in
noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: loran


> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
> etc, it is not necessry.
> 73 G3KEV
>
>
>
>




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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> So enough of the bickering, RadCom has to cater for a wide range of 
> interests.

I agree about the "wide range of interests" but, along with seemingly 
many here, I find the "wide range of interests" it caters for to be 
mundane, simplistic and on the whole non-technical. 

This is (meant to be) a technical, experimental, educational, 
semi-scientific hobby. RADCOM rarely reflects this.

The many, many pages of adverts, all for the same selection of (mainly 
Japanese) electronic trickery-pokery black-boxes indicate just who the 
target audience is. Certainly not the sort that pull out their 
junk-boxes and knock together a station to activate a band like 500kHz.

Mal called for us to get off the fence and express our thoughts on the 
subject. That's my tuppence worth.... now back to the serious business.

BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of 
SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts? I'm not interested in 
QRO per-se but a periodical containing articles about more complex, 
larger or higher power gear done in the style of SPRAT would make a 
great read, don't you think?

Cheers,

John



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
23:30=>03:30  WD2XGJ

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj





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Hi all
Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160
m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.
The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all
about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put
this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be
any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance
operator, bar a few who can work CW.
Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance of
working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode
and no chance for a QSO.
Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same
wayt as 136 khz  DEAD
Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500
has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.


de G3KEV




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http://www.here-now.org/shows/2007/10/20071025_13.asp

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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Hartmut, Jean-Pierre and group,

Thank-you very much for the reports.  It seems from
Hartmut's traces that the seagulls are gone and the
stability is much better.  There are fragments of
an N in the middle of the trace and the timing
is consistent with what was sent, confirming the sigs
came from here.

73
Joe

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>
>


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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the very interesting capture.  After John reported
the frequency as 187.37043 kHz the DDS was scaled back about 140 mHz.
Double precision variables were used in the software to do the scaling
so it should be close.  If so, the signals should appear on 187.3703
as they do on your capture.  It looks very promising!

Sorry for the guessing about the TX frequency and thanks to John for
the accurate benchmarks.  If anybody has an Rb standard and is considering
parting with it, please let me know!

73
Joe

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> Last night , if I trust the capture of John, on the NA frequency there
> is a trace at 05:10 (see Capt_96) it is perhaps a beginning ??.
> The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
> > has been improved by the latest changes and this should
> > improve your chances of reception.
> >
> > Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
> >> The captures of night are at :
> >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> >> 73 J-P f1afj
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu
>
>
>

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:46:51 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.
> 

Hi Gary,

That's what I was thinking as I heard " G  3  W  C  ..." expecting a
"B" next, even started to write it down as G3WCB in anticipation! 

I have some of the CQs recorded on mp3.

He was there for long enough,and at good enough strength to read Q4-5
in the end and it was certainly G3WCE.

Shame I couldn't raise him though.


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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for sending the synthesiser.  I will be
happy when it arrives.  The photos and instructions
have been received, but I am not sure how to code
it. For example, in the XLS file is: Divide by: 9678/
Frequency 187.374/  VCO 5995.956. How do we program
the divide by 9678?

Hopefully you will see the signals in the near future.

Merci beaucoup.
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>
>

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My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

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> Hi Mal
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> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
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> Cheers,
>
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When I joined the RSGB in 1961, the Bulletin appeared on about the 15th of t=
he month it was dated.  Now it appears on about the 20th of the preceding mo=
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On 24/10/2007 at 09:21 John GM4SLV wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
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>> Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
>>=20
>> G3KEV
>>=20
>>=20
>Hi Mal
>
>I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
>was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
>read, so little time!
>
>Cheers,
>
>John






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Ga LF.

testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports most w=
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I was up at the HF Convention at Wyboston yesterday. Very enjoyable 
day and the new venue is fine, the only criticism was that the 
lecture rooms were too small (which I gather they are going to remedy 
next year).

Apart from a chat with Alan G3NYK I saw nobody else from the LF/MF 
crowd - but did see Derek G3HEJ who says he will be QRV on 500k soon. 
Conspicuous by its absence was the LF station, unless it was buried 
in a room I never found. Were there any plans for a station this 
year?

All the LF/MF talks were scheduled for today though so maybe there 
were some of the regulars there today. Would be interested in 
feedback, hopefully those lectures were standing room as well?

By the way I just had a listen down on 500kHz, Finbar GI4DPE was 599, 
gave him a couple of calls but clearly didn't hear me. Then found 
Chris G3XIZ calling me so we had a nice chat (and he moaned there was 
no HFC station for him to work...). Stonely silence down there again 
now apart from the beacons.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thank you Andy.
 
I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced  
recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and found  
not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up call.
There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when technical  
articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to appear. I  
wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being  published?
Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an  individual 
and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to  give 
500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.  
1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering  but 
without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks and  a 
binocular microscope to build it.
2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key components  
for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
 
This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG  and 
Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no  
comercial equipment exists.
Of course, something working against this process at present is that 500kHz  
is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be  
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?    Something software 
definable?
Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
 
Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond  
03/08.
 
So many things to do, so little time.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF
 
In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,  
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:

How  about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
tabloid route  the Radcomic is taking?

Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned  about the route the comic
is moving, but I get the feeling he is being  pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
sorry the Board.   The two job titles  that used to run the magazine
were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"   now   they are "Managing
Editor" and  "Features  Editor" .  That sez it all!

Andy   G4JNT







   

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03/08.</DIV>
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<DIV>So many things to do, so little time.</DIV>
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<DIV>73</DIV>
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, hamilton mal wrote:

> I have been doing well xband 500/3533/7033 so far with 11 countries worked

Hello LF, Mal,

Encouraged by Mal's posting I've tried calling "CQ QSX 3533khz" on a 
couple of occasions. I was called last weekend by Mike G3GMS near 
Cullercoats (where I sat my PO morse test all those years ago!) and just 
yesterday I had a x-band QSO with Hans LA2EG in Bergen.
It's odd to think, but Hans has been my closest 500kHz QSO to date, at 
only 230 miles....! 

It says something when an LA station is a "local" and a GM is DX.

Will try to look for more foreign stations on 3533. I have no TX 
capability on anything other than 500 - only one TX antenna - but my 
PA0RDT "mini-whip" feeding a K2 works nicely on top-band and 80m in 
receive.

Cheers,

John



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OOPS actidently hit send on the earlier post, this is how the previous
posting should have been...

Johan's and John's comments both copied below say it all.

Don't be put off by the need for house styles etc - if you do look at
the articles that have written it in the past, they were all in the
authors' own words with a little editorial help occasionally.  The
peer review is more or less a rubber stamp if the article in
straightforward and constructional - (if, for example, it happened to
be about about zero loss infinitely small magnetic loops that would be
a different matter :-)

As for the need for repeatability, say so.  If you've done a one-off
with components from the junk box it is more than likely to be of
interest still, and that  won't stop the editors / TC;  but be
prepared for a lot of questions, some silly, some sensible,  from
constructors

 I've been following the way this thread has developed with
considerable interest, and am actually rather pleased that the problem
appears to be worldwide.  Now I do know its not a personal Radcomic
thing, but is part of a more general malaise.

So which of these are valid, I wonder :

1)  No one is actually doing anything interesting technically, so
there is nothing to publish.

2)  With the appearance of really advanced commercial kit taht
couldn't be home-made, constructors are losing confidence in their own
abilities, so are afraid to show what they are doing in case others
ridicule it.

3)  No technical articles published = "They don't want to publish
technical stuff" = "Its not much point sending anything in, then"

4)  Technical articles are being written, but placed on personal web
sites and not properly distributed.

1)  1) is clearly rubbish.
2) I know can be a bit worrying, but discussion amongst other
like-minded people soon shows that what appears to be really high tech
IS NOT.  Its just throwing a lot of money and development time at a
simple problem to make it smaller and more GUI-fied
3)  Well ... we see it hapenning.
4)  There's something in this, too.  But it does lead to a very small
select audience, and you don't get paid for it.

They DO WANT TO PUBLISH TECHNICAL ARTICLES (shouting intentionally),
but can't if nothing gets written-up.   Positive feedback is setting
in, and we're going to end up with 'comic content hitting the supply
rails with nothing more than contest results and amateur-radio
celebrities.  Alternativly, it could go unstable - any ideas where
that could lead?

Andy  G4JNT

www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


>
> >I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
> >been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
> >some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
> >provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
> >of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
> >work first time.... )
> >
> >
> >What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
> >not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
> >"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
> >circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
> >experimentation."
> >
> >The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
> >and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
> >alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
> >component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
> >it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!
> >
> >RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.
>
>
> On 29/10/2007, Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:
> > John, LF,
> >
> > you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/
> >
> > If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM
> > (W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much
> > about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in
> > RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the
> > legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder
> > melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)
> >
> > 73
> > Johan SM6LKM
> >
> > John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> > > BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of
> > > SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?
> >
> >
> >
>


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Fine, John,

That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a clear 
print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the band condx 
are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz shift , see how that 
prints .. that is a mode , you can send by simple fsk , ?

Graham ..


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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that John,
>>
>> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
>> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>>
>> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
>> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
>> effective on this band ,
>> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
>> system .
>>
>> Tnx
>
>
> Hi Graham and the LF group,
>
> Yes I rather cheated by picking the best bit. It does get errors in the
> QSB dips, I can kick the decoder away again and see if I can quantify
> the period of good/bad copy.
>
> I believe MFSK16 would be okay for non-linear amps, as it's a single
> tone system.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joh
>
>
>
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Multpsk

Amtor set -
click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx mode

over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170  - 200-

click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center over 
data stream

Thanks , John,

This will be a usefull test as  'fsk' is not too difficult to  produce !

Graham ..




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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:03 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Fine John,
>>
>> Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text
>> and power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up
>> and i cannot tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...
>>
>> .... Tnx - Graham ..
>
>
> Any advice on setting Multipsk for amtor-fec 85Hz?
>
> John
>
>
>
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.......and long-path condx very good on 160m in the morning. ZL7 and ZL3 
worked Friday, KH6AT and ZM1A both excellent signals this morning.

73
Tom G3OLB

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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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> Hi all
> Mf condx vy good at present.
> Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band 
> plus
> some W stns.
> Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO acty.
> de G3KEV
>
>
> 



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Thanks for all the info chaps on /6 and /17.
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Dear LF Group,

I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
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Last night , nil nil nil !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>
>> =20
>>> Hello Joe ,
>>> Last night , nothing here !
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>   =20
>>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     =20
>>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>>> I listening tonight
>>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>       =20
>>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM=20
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240=20
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         =20
>>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats=20
>>>>>>> time of  start
>>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station=20
>>>>>>> on  183 kHz 1
>>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          =20
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John, LF,

Condx really are good tonight, for sure. GI4DPE is peaking 579 on 501.32,
and your signals are peaking about 559 on 501.50, with a distinct 180 Hz
beat note being audible at times.

Spectran screenshot attached showing GI4DPE (Leftmost peak, lower trace) and
GM4SLV (rightmost peak, upper trace)

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: LF: Condx good on 500


Hi LF,

Another good night in progress.

Just had QSO in CW with Chris G3XIZ and a first QSO at long last with
Colin G3VTT. Fantastic to hear so much CW on the band...now off for
G3KEV...



--
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...

How to  set mode=20

Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'

You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 0).=
.. afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250   4-500=
  etc ....=20

click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ t=
ones 8)

tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to =20=
stop wandering caused by noise=20

G ..=20





  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08 PM
  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > midnig=
ht=20


  Hi,all.=20

  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .=20

  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out pe=
rform  psk31=20

  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq=
 , I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few c/=
s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .=20

  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal f=
ixed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20

  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below t=
he noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede , =20

  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center frequ=
ency to  that of the transmission and software settings=20

  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb .=
. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier'=
=20

  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 1=
300 Hz=20

   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will=
 provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and re=
duce the s/n at the rx .=20



  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent appe=
are to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.=20

  Software can be downloaded from :-

  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

  select :-


   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)=20


  Tnx

  Graham=20

  G0NBD

  io83lk









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over power=
ing ..=20
but ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How to&nbsp; set mode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Olivia&nbsp; ....&nbsp;click&nbsp;on &nbsp;=
the=20
green button .. 'OLIVIA'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You will see at the top of the waterfall=20
display&nbsp; , squelch slider .(set 0)... afc&nbsp; button .. then to&nbsp;=
 the=20
right .. cluster of&nbsp; 8 buttons&nbsp; 4-250&nbsp;&nbsp; 4-500&nbsp; etc=20=
....=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>click on &nbsp;&nbsp; , lower left&nbsp; bu=
tton=20
marked&nbsp;&nbsp; 250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ tones 8)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tune as normal ... if signal is very low ,=20
switch&nbsp; 'afc and&nbsp; lock' &nbsp;off to&nbsp; stop wandering caused b=
y=20
noise </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co=
.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Olivia data test ,to n=
ight=20
  503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local &gt; midnight </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,all. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To date , not tried a multi tone data sys=
tem .=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Olivia system , would seem to&nbsp; p=
rint=20
  well into&nbsp; the noise ..may out perform&nbsp; psk31 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 ton=
e=20
  setting&nbsp; 250 hz/bw&nbsp; 8 tone freq , I shall set the 'purple' cente=
r=20
  freq marker , to&nbsp; 503.3&nbsp; dead (+/- few c/s) . the output spectru=
m=20
  looks quite clean , and should not spread . </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are wider versions , but 250&nbsp;=20=
should=20
  be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sorry to&nbsp; those who=
 'know'=20
  , follows&nbsp; notes on reception &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As its possible , from observation at 'HF=
'&nbsp;=20
  olivia will print from below the noise level , accuate rx seting may be ne=
ede=20
  ,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rx settings 'usb'&nbsp; &nbsp;- dial freq=
uency=20
  to&nbsp; give recovered audio center frequency to&nbsp; that of the=20
  transmission and software settings&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i.e.&nbsp; The tx settings will be&nbsp;=20=
-dial=20
  frequency - 502.000 Khz ,&nbsp; mode usb .. software tx/rx tone , center=20
  frequency,&nbsp; 1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier' </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reverse applies for 'rx' dial&nbsp; 5=
02 , usb=20
  ,&nbsp; software , -purple mark- 1300 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;using a narrow filter should not be=
 needed=20
  as the soundcard/software will provide the slectivity, also narrow filteri=
ng=20
  may 'round' the pulses and reduce the s/n at the rx . </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also s=
upports=20
  the mode, but dosent appeare to&nbsp; support the '250x8'&nbsp; narrow ver=
sion=20
  .. other packages may do. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Software can be downloaded from :-</FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index=
_anglais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>select :-</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT     size=3D6>&nbsp;</FONT><A href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK.ZIP=
"><B><FONT     size=3D6>MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)</FONT></B></A><B><FO=
NT size=3D6>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>io83lk</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Gary & LF,

Just on the way to bed but can RX some of the RTTY. Looks bright on the
waterfall. This decoded at 21:12UTC


RYRYRY
HRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRSYSRYRYRYRYRYRYRYY
YRYRYRYRYRYZ
Y
21:122 W
HPOXQVUL
DSRKWGT4/2&5 IO13QP - RTTY - 23? HW SHIFT - 45. AUD GA REPOTSWELCOME
LTEIQSCKNBROWNNJ JUMVYEOMEY THE LAZY DOG
DE GORP&5 GWX -HIOIEQPE RTY - 1( HZ SHFH - BRTMTAKD - REPOLL QZLCOME
RYRYRHCYRYRYRYYRYYGYOY
YRYRYYRYRYRYRHRYRYRZYRSCYRYRYRYRY


Something legible in there!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland IP90gg



On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:04:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for report Graham.
> 
> Continuing until about 2230 utc.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz RTTY Beacon 
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> > Grary,
> > 
> > Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..
> > 
> > G ..
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> > 
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:37 PM
> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz RTTY Beacon
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> > 
> >> Hi LF,
> >>
> >> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
> >>
> >> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
> >>
> >> Reports welcome.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> >>
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Yes, those were the days Mal... I had an old Adcola when I was a 
teenager. The "front end" looked like a long coil of steel wire and the 
handle was a "phenolic paper" tube which got so hot I needed a glove to 
hold it! :-) I am too young to have enjoyed the really good old days of 
radio (born 59) but I built my first crystal RX on a 30x50cm plywood 
board at the age of 7, I think the "active device" was an OA79, and two 
years later I built my first phonograph amplifier in a plastic icecream 
container. Crystal pick-up, DL96 pentode powered by three 22.5V 
batteries + 1.5V heater and 1kOhm headphones...
It didn't have 200 buttons, not a single button actually, only a 1 meg 
potentiometer for "volume" but I was soooo happy! :-)

hamilton mal wrote:
 > G2AK in Birmingham had Adcola soldering irons
 > for 1 pound and 2 pence, the solder was free.
 > Those were the days and every radio amateur was
 > chattering away in morse


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Hello LF,

It's been tricky to maintain a regular evening sked recently, and I
guess I'm not alone in having lots of calls on my limited time!

I'm expending a lot of mental effort on the 500khz thing, and finding
it very interesting, but feel I need to work more of the stations that
are out there while we've got the band. 

I've already had at least one QSO with 9 different stations, in
G/GM/GI/GW and some have been worked multiple times. These repeat QSOs
are very worthwhile, as they show up the variations in signal, either
due to propagation/noise changes or due to station improvements.


The evenings have been bad for QRN but I find mornings, around 6:30 -
8am local time to be quite good. Certainly I hear some low power MF
broadcast stations from EI/GI very well at that time. 

Is anyone interested in a loosely arranged sked for sometime between
7am and 8am local time. The clocks will go back soon and push sunrise
earlier (by the clock) but we'll soon regain the night-time!


I am also going to try to be around most evenings at about 9:30 local
time too, and often on into the night....

Thursday evenings are particularly good for me, as my XYL is out every
Thursday!!

Regards,

John


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So far no good ,

Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj , value 
4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x 10 
mm

The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find any 
amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there range 
now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small sizes 
..

Any suggestions , links or supply ?

Tnx - Graham .. 




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Hi,all.=20

To date , not tried a multi tone data system .=20

The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out perf=
orm  psk31=20

The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq ,=
 I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few c/s)=
 . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .=20

There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fix=
ed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20

>>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below the=
 noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede , =20

rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center frequen=
cy to  that of the transmission and software settings=20

i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb ..=20=
software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier'=20

The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 130=
0 Hz=20

 using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will p=
rovide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and redu=
ce the s/n at the rx .=20



NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent appear=
e to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.=20

Software can be downloaded from :-

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

select :-


 MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)=20


Tnx

Graham=20

G0NBD

io83lk






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To date , not tried a multi tone data syste=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Olivia system , would seem to&nbsp; pri=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone=20
setting&nbsp; 250 hz/bw&nbsp; 8 tone freq , I shall set the 'purple' center=20=
freq=20
marker , to&nbsp; 503.3&nbsp; dead (+/- few c/s) . the output spectrum looks=
=20
quite clean , and should not spread . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are wider versions , but 250&nbsp; sh=
ould be=20
'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy </FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sorry to&nbsp; those who '=
know' ,=20
follows&nbsp; notes on reception &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As its possible , from observation at 'HF'&=
nbsp;=20
olivia will print from below the noise level , accuate rx seting may be need=
e=20
,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rx settings 'usb'&nbsp; &nbsp;- dial freque=
ncy=20
to&nbsp; give recovered audio center frequency to&nbsp; that of the transmis=
sion=20
and software settings&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i.e.&nbsp; The tx settings will be&nbsp; -d=
ial=20
frequency - 502.000 Khz ,&nbsp; mode usb .. software tx/rx tone , center=20
frequency,&nbsp; 1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier' </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reverse applies for 'rx' dial&nbsp; 502=
 , usb=20
,&nbsp; software , -purple mark- 1300 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;using a narrow filter should not be n=
eeded as=20
the soundcard/software will provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering ma=
y=20
'round' the pulses and reduce the s/n at the rx . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also sup=
ports=20
the mode, but dosent appeare to&nbsp; support the '250x8'&nbsp; narrow versi=
on=20
.. other packages may do. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Software can be downloaded from :-</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_ang=
lais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>select :-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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ONT   size=3D6>&nbsp;</FONT><A href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK.ZIP"><B=
><FONT   size=3D6>MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)</FONT></B></A><B><FONT siz=
e=3D6>=20
</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Karl-Heinz & Arnim,

DL1EIE received in NW UK at IO83QP using PA0RDT mini-whip antenna.

Copy direct also.

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From: "Karl-Heinz Gansel" <softrock@dl6ebs.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; "Arnim Pomsel" <arnim.pomsel@cityweb.de>
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Subject: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE 19.10.2007 16:00h 
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> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to the 
> reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
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>> Running  rtty beacon  170 Hz shift , cent freq  502.8
>> Location  io83lk
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>> Graham ..
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In message <001701c818c6$ee4e9de0$27e4fc3e@g3kev>, hamilton mal 
<g3kev.ham@virgin.net> writes
>Its surprising how many amateurs subscriber to this reflector but have no
>opinion, SITTING ON THE FENCE. !!!!!!!!!!!!
>Come out of the woodwork and let us all know what you think.
>G3KEV

As someone who was licensed around the same time as Mal (in Jan 1955 as 
G3KEP after taking the May 1954 proper RAE), we had to spend 12 months 
on CW with a maximum of 25 watts d.c. input, except on Top Band where is 
was 10 watts.

Hence top band was a very popular band for new comers despite the QRM 
from fish fone and Radio Loran. It is not surprising therefore that 
people from that era are attracted to LF with home brew equipment. My 
own 500kHz rig is a 6AC7 Clapp VFO / 6AC7 BA / 807 PA - reflections from 
the old top bands days!

73

David
G4DMP
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| http://www.g4dmp.co.uk                |
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info  is on qrz.com ?

G ..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi>
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Subject: LF: Just received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ on 502.0kHz


LF Hello!

Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z

Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500kHz
operator list I have.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD




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Hi John, LFers,

A nice job on the website!  I have to ask...what are your winters
like at that latitude?  Living on the shore of  Lake Huron, I know
all about lake effect snow squalls, but I'll bet there are times that
you don't even see your neighbours home!  I made it all the way
to John O Groats back in '97 while doing a six week tour of the
UK in a rental car.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Hi LF,

Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks like 
they are on collision course.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's


> Hi LF,
>
> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong 
> and
> audible using normal morse (CW).
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 

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Ok Jim

Reminds me of picadilly circus wathching the news caster .... whats the 
optimum refresh rate ? , ive just caught the letters -erp -  but nothing 
since ...

G ..





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
> any reports welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>
>
>
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> 




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Last night , no trace .
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
01:00=>02:45  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )

On 187 kHz :
Nothing here

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73 J-P f1afj





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In order not to clutter the list I collected all my thanks for recent help t=
o
one post:

Chris - thanks for the new 500kHz operators list, always useful.

Graham - thanks for the info on UK street address to approximate grid square
conversion. Will be very handy in the future.

Wolfgang - It works! It must have been IF/AF clipping just as you suggested.=
 It
didn't come easy though. I have to use the -20dB attenuator (tried that befo=
re
but no luck) PLUS reduced RF gain with much MORE AF gain than usual. Already
got a nice screenshot of DI2AG in QRSS3 and he was a clear copy in NDB mode
too. Danke Sch=F6n dafuer!

73's

Paul-Henrik



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I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in PHYSICS!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hooton_Taylor,_Jr.

(Boy am I sorry for asking him such dumb questions!!!)

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Its a bit like having the first telephone ......
> 
> G ..
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:58 PM
> Subject: Fwd: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> 
> 
> > If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your 
> > findings...
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> > Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> > To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> > group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> > using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> > know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> >
> >       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 



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Hi all
Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
de Mal/G3KEV



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Mal,

> My previous message must have escaped YOU.

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Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period pushed the
Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there. The radio effects
will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when things may be down a
bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at present but it is probably still
dropping. Anyone watching overnight may find the pre-dawn period is not as
good as it is usually.

Well done on Working peter that is almost as dar as you can go south, though
it might not be as far as to Tom G3OLB (another old 136 stalwart)

Best wishes
Alan G3NYK


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> Hello LF
>
> I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> light pollution!
>
> I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
>
> Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
>
> G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
>
> and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
>
> Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
>
> My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
>
>
> I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> ongoing somewhere within radio range.
>
> Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
>
> --
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>



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Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for that John,
>=20
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>=20
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
> effective on this band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
> system .
>=20
> Tnx
>=20
> Graham .


Graham/LF

Here's about 5 minutes worth.

Nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcq
1g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0n%d  qsl
g0nbdot4viwNcqcqsr test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qWK6|g0nbd@hotmail.com
cqcqcq test g0Yg0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.om cqcq+qgk=C2=B0n
S\v5bd|st9"!>Ws0GG@A,_aE9S:cGGqcq tes 0~g0nU)1,`z|Ig0nbd gqmail.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0npd  qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com E'{ test g0nbd
g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nd  qsl!
=C3=A2d@hotmil.cU A{qsD g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.cOm cqcqcq
test g0nbd g0nbd bd  qsl  bd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd
qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcqstgst g0nbd g0naCg0nb>  qsl
g0nbd@hotmail.ecqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl ]g0nbd@hotl.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  gnbd@hotmai&.com cqcqcq test g0nbd
g0nbd g0nbd  qc


It looks like approx 2 minutes of reasonable copy and 1 minute of
garbage. I'll let you count the characters!

On the whole it works quite well, tonight isn't a good night - the QRN
is playing havoc!

Regards,


John

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Thank-you J-P for monitoring for the signals. The TX is operating
normally near 189.9498 kHz.  Lets hope that conditions improve
and you will have success.

Joe

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Some traces, at the beginning of night good copy of WD2XGJ!
>
> On 189 kHz :
> Nil
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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If you want simple lumped ones, my website contains a basic filter design prog
http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/designsw.htm

For more advanced stuff, I use Ansoft Designer SV (student version)
which has a wonderful filter design tool under "projects - insert
filter design" then follow th einstructions

Designer SV is a big download, but its free and an excelent Rf design tool !

Andy  G4JNT

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> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with thanks Laurence 9V1 LF
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Thanks for report Jose.

Static was terrible here but nice to know we are making it into EA.

Hope to work you cross band

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Best wishes

=20

Mike GW4HXO

=20

  _____ =20

Hello all,

=20

Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN.

Then GW4HXO, with stronger signals, calling G3UNT.

=20

As I see that xband QSO=B4s are taking place, I=B4ll try to prepare my anten=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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Tnx Paul for the report, nice to hr fm OH land, hope u are able to get on
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Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise and
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Good copy&nbsp; of OK0EMW in JN45SL using the new Perseus receiver and a
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Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. The
actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
and very little construction projects.
If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. Some
thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
technology.
Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd tech
article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
being published.
Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
Does anyone else have an opinion.
Mal/G3KEV




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Helllo Uwe, LF
I am very happy  to report my FIRST  500khz  RX. As i still  finish my 
137 khz antennae  i did not have any kind of antenna for 500khz
i joined this LF group few days ago and  saw that the number of  "500 
khz"  posts  exceeds that one of  "137khz" so i decided 2 days ago to 
fix quickly
indoor antenna  i.e several turns of wire on  a square-shape  paper box 
resulting  in inductance of abt 0.580  mH  series tuned  with variable 
capacitor and  raising impedance ferrite transformer. i put this antenna 
into my 746pro  trx  and the rest is obvious.  antenna is "sitting" on 
the carpet  in the middle of the room
yesterday you posted  mail concerning the DI2BE beacon so i  used your 
frequency of 505.140 khz  and the result is attached  as the jpg
screen  capture frm spectran. also below you will see  the DI2AM beacon  
transmitting actually on higer freq abt 505.183 kHz ( "left" injection)
anyway, Uwe , i am very happy  ( almost like a kid, hi hi) to get my 
first observation of radioamateur actvity on  500 khz  it happend it was 
"your" beacon
my loc jo91rs  so it gives abt 700km
                                                                                                
73,peter,sq7mpj
p.s.  originally, this post contained bigger picture  and was sent to 
Uwe who  pointed out the max  size of  attached pictures .sri and tnx  
for this remark
i hope this time it reaches the LF group.   ( first thing first.....)

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LF Hello!

Received G3VTT Q5 calling CQ in normal CW on 501.9kHz 20071023 19.23z

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>From the ARRL web page...

"The conference will also consider a secondary allocation to the amateur service of 135.7-137.8 kHz. The Amateur Service currently has no frequency allocations lower than 1.8 MHz. With today's widespread use of digital technology, Sumner said, amateurs can now make use of weaker signals than ever before. "This opens a window of opportunity for amateurs to conduct technical investigations in the low-frequency range." More than 20 governments have already allowed individuals, most of them Amateur Radio operators, to experiment on frequencies between 73 and 200 kHz; 15 European governments allow amateur operations on 135.7-137.8 kHz. There is considerable support for this allocation in proposals from a large number of administrations.

Planning for WRC-11

Four items are on the IARU "wish list" of agenda items for consideration at the next WRC, possibly in 2011:

• In IARU Region 1 (Europe, Russia, the Middle East and Africa), allocate 50-54 MHz (6 meters), as is already done in Region 2 and Region 3. The United States is a member of Region 2.

• Allocate 495-510 kHz to the Amateur Service on either a primary or secondary basis. This will permit the development of reliable groundwave systems for disaster relief and provide a spectrum for experimentation with digital signal processing.

• Continue to allow amateurs access to frequencies at regular intervals above 275 GHz, keeping in mind allocations and protections to other services. The IARU suggests providing specific allocations to the Amateur Service, as established at WARC-79, of "relatively narrow, primary bands adjacent to wider, secondary bands."

• If the ITU Member States decide to review HF allocations at WRC-11, the IARU asks for consideration of expansion of the amateur bands near 10, 14 and 18 MHz in order to better accommodate increased activity. Sumner notes that consideration of HF issues at WRC-11 is by no means certain."




--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Sorry forgot to add my QTH to my post

Vernon - VE1VDM
FN85ki

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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Vernon Matheson
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> 
> 
> 
> Copied at 2247uyc October 14 on 505.180 in QRS10
> 
> 


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Alan
No black holes around Scarboro, condx still good today on 160m. Just heard
UA9RO and A71EM but to mention a couple and its daylight at just gone 1600z
73 mal/g3kev

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> Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period pushed
the
> Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there. The radio
effects
> will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when things may be down a
> bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at present but it is probably
still
> dropping. Anyone watching overnight may find the pre-dawn period is not as
> good as it is usually.
>
> Well done on Working peter that is almost as dar as you can go south,
though
> it might not be as far as to Tom G3OLB (another old 136 stalwart)
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24 PM
> Subject: LF: Visual Aurora and good condx
>
>
> > Hello LF
> >
> > I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> > in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> > light pollution!
> >
> > I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
> >
> > Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
> >
> > G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> > G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
> >
> > and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
> >
> > Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> > us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
> >
> > My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> > re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
> >
> >
> > I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> > Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> > some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> > ongoing somewhere within radio range.
> >
> > Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
> >
> > --
> > John GM4SLV
> > IP90gg
> > Clousta, Shetland
> >
> >
>
>



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Hi Mal, LF,

You wrote :-

>Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and 
>antenna
> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
> Does anyone else have an opinion.

Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be submitting 
ideas & articles to the RadCom team.

I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they don't know 
the stuff is there how can they print it ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi all
137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more international
aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of the
local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 given
that there is some other acty on the band.
I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothing
major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
de G3KEV




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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!
WD2XGJ QRT tonight due to WX (Storms)

Will work on the high power tuner on the weekend - maybe QRO next week!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 01:00=>02:45  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nothing here
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
> 
> 



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In a recent message, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote 
...
>David Pratt wrote:
>
>> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence 
>>and  is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.
>
>Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
>only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable (as 
>required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of transmission, in 
>the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" as defined.

I am sure you're right, John.  The use of the word "Beacon" is a 
misnomer in this context and should be referred to as CQ (or initial) 
calls. Granted, there are countries that only permit operation of 
beacons on 500kHz and not participation in 2-way communications.

Looking forward to working you when I have improved my antenna system.

73

David
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+----------------------------------+
| David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK |
| Homepage: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |
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After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 = 187.3702(8625) kHz.
The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.
Unfortunately the freq. counter can no longer be used to
monitor drift!

QRSS240 (+-) starting 1800 utc today until 20 Oct.

Reports are always welcomed.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Graham, LF,

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Subject: LF: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight




The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...

How to  set mode

Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'

You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 
0)... afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250 
4-500  etc ....

click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ 
tones 8)

tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to 
stop wandering caused by noise

G ..





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham
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  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight


  Hi,all.

  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .

  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out 
perform  psk31

  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq 
, I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few 
c/s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .

  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal 
fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy

  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below 
the noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede ,

  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center 
frequency to  that of the transmission and software settings

  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb 
.. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 
'carrier'

  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 
1300 Hz

   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will 
provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and 
reduce the s/n at the rx .



  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent 
appeare to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.

  Software can be downloaded from :-

  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

  select :-


   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)


  Tnx

  Graham

  G0NBD

  io83lk









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Hi Paul-Henrik,
your log indicates that DI2BE transmits on 501kHz.
but it is and was 505,140.12kHz.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv

Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in=20
> OH/KP03SD at
> 17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once dur=
ing
> the past week.
>
> As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although i=
t
> would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lack=20=
of
> 2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the=20
> breaktrough from
> happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular=20
> basis" but
> your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here.=20
> Late night
> propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with=20
> plenty of time
> for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in=20
> normal CW:
> http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt
>
> The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot h=
ere
> during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best fo=
r
> DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over nois=
e.
> That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well=20
> aware of
> the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-met=
er
> needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with=20
> 10W EMRP if
> I remeber correctly.
>
> So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other=20
> countries as
> well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD
>
> Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi all
>> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more internation=
al
>> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of th=
e
>> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 giv=
en
>> that there is some other acty on the band.
>> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, noth=
ing
>> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
>> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
>> de G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




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Mine also seems to be missing the "Sensible-not-old fogys-moaning-minnies"  
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Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello Joe ,
Last night , nothing here !
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>
> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hi Joe ,
>> I listening tonight
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>>
>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>
>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>
>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  s=
tart
>>>> beaconing ?
>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183=20=
kHz 1
>>>> MW,
>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>
>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
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The new ones heard last night:

09.10.2007      21:13   326     C       HNG     Debrecen
09.10.2007      23:17   327     NC8     LBY     Hamada NC-8
09.10.2007      21:00   343     E       ROU     Craiova
10.10.2007      00:33   346     BRD     IRN     Bojnurd
09.10.2007      22:26   346     Y       HNG     Nyiregyhaza

73
Hartmut
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Hi LF,

In the quiet moments between CQ calls and listening out for CQ calls
(and other more mundane matters like work, life, family etc) I squeezed
together a few photos and words about my 500kHz setup and dropped them
onto a website.

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm

Regards,

John GM4SLV
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Clousta, Shetland


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=20
Being one whom seems destined to live in places where no local activity exis=
ts within , say, 5000Kms radii, can I say that Ive had the delight to hear n=
umerous Eu signals on Circa 505Khz over the past 48 hours of listening.
=20
Todays feast started off with a CW qso with a G3UNT (599)and a G4D (DGR or G=
DR I cant remember... (549, I was in the Croydon at the time) :- youll have=20=
to remember Ive a long term memory of a goldfish; then a longish qso with GI=
4DPE (559) and G3KEV (599), (M1 J12). With Guss' signal dogboning from SM an=
d D  beacons stations  booming in  made my drive from Sussex to Nottingham m=
ore interesting than having to listen to BBC local radio drivel
=20
Antennae
=20
Ive had at least two people today come up to me and say "I got to ask why DO=
 YOU HAVE A BABY BOTTLE on your car roof?" -=20
=20
Note to self : - try to replace baby bottle with something more mundane.
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Noise=20
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The noise level is pretty good, and I only get a couple of squeaks from the=20=
PC near 500KHz. Earthing the coax where it comes from the eprobe knocks some=
 30dB of internal to car hash from getting to the probe. The best place Ive=20=
found is near, but not on, the door catch bolt. I have about a 6 inch tail o=
f wire bonded to the outer of the RG174 cable and this is connected to the c=
ar chassis. Running the 12VDC to 240VAC inverter does create a few dBs more=20=
noise but not enough to mask Finbars signal.
=20
Regards and thanks to all for the beacons and CW signals.
=20
Laurence G4DMA/M
J28 M1 for the night.
SDR IQ modded PA0RDT probe on magmount. Dell D610
_________________________________________________________________
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Being one whom seems destined to live in places where no local activity exis=
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umerous Eu signals on Circa 505Khz over the past 48 hours of listening.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Todays feast&nbsp;started off with a CW qso&nbsp;with a G3UNT (599)and a G4D=
 (DGR or GDR I cant remember...&nbsp;(549, I was in the Croydon at the&nbsp;=
time)&nbsp;:- youll have to remember Ive a long term memory of a goldfish; t=
hen a longish qso with GI4DPE (559)&nbsp;and G3KEV (599), (M1 J12).&nbsp;Wit=
h Guss' signal dogboning from SM and D&nbsp; beacons stations&nbsp; booming=20=
in&nbsp; made my drive from Sussex to Nottingham more interesting than havin=
g to listen to BBC local radio drivel<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Antennae<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive had at least two people today come up to me and say "I got to ask why DO=
 YOU HAVE A BABY BOTTLE on your car roof?" -&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Note to self : - try to replace baby bottle with something more mundane.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Noise <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The noise level is pretty good, and I only get a couple of squeaks from the=20=
PC near 500KHz. Earthing the coax where it comes from the eprobe knocks some=
 30dB of internal to car hash from getting to the probe. The best place Ive=20=
found is near, but not on,&nbsp;the door catch bolt. I have about a 6 inch t=
ail of wire bonded to the outer of the RG174 cable and this is connected to=20=
the car chassis. Running the 12VDC to 240VAC inverter does create a few dBs=20=
more noise but not enough to mask Finbars signal.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Regards and thanks to all for the beacons and CW signals.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence G4DMA/M<BR>
J28 M1 for the night.<BR>
SDR IQ modded PA0RDT probe on magmount. Dell D610<BR><br /><hr />Climb to th=
e top of the charts!=A0 Play Star Shuffle:=A0 the word scramble challenge wi=
th star power. <a href=3D'http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=3Dstar=
shuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct' target=3D'_new'>Play Now!</a></body>
</html>=3D

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The next night i will qrv for listening on 137 and 187 kHz

this morning I wrote:

 >  On 187 kHz :
 >  17:30=>18:20  traces on frequency VO1NA

it was not VO1NA! it was Spurious

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http://www.aade.com/filter.htm

73
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> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's [...]



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Hello LFers,

I've been reading this thread and find it describing what
has taken place on this side of the pond as well.  I had
a subscription to 73 Magazine during the 70's and 80's,
and it was at least 7 mm thick and was packed full of all
sorts of good articles.  These days it must be a license
to print money publishing a magazine, when you concider
the revenue they take in from the ads and what you have
to hand over for a copy at the newstand.  It's sure
not the same as "The good ole days".

73, J.B., VE3EAR/VE3WZL
hamming since 1968


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On 24 Oct 2007 at 7:40, hamilton mal wrote:

> Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> 
> G3KEV
> 
> 
It is out Mal, others have reported receiving it earlier this week. I 
received the extracts they send to clubs via email at the beginning 
of the week, but not received my paper copy yet.

Remember there was a post strike last week, I expect it even affected 
Scarborough.... Still waiting for the latest edition of Sprat, which 
many of our overseas chaps have already received...

73 Dave G3YMC


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Hi Vern & LF!

Are the same problem here.

After my post about RN3AGC, Andy report the group was lose two my messages.



I solve a problem by the other way.



http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/PE1RRF/PE1RRF.html

Frank, you was real rx'd here! If you used a qrss 60/120 we are read you I think!



http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/ok0emw/ok0emw.html

The OK0EMW here in qrss-3 on 505.06 kHz today.

505.181 kHz DI2AM(left) and 505.02 kHz also read good.





10.10.07, 03:28, Vernon Matheson (vmath@eastlink.ca):



> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a

> small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come back...will this

> list only accept text messages and block any type of attachments.

> Vern - VE1VDM



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
it has only 3 hours of listening there
(stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hello Joe ,
>> Last night , nothing here !
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>
>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>> I listening tonight
>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of=20=
 start
>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  18=
3 kHz 1
>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
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Running  rtty beacon  170 Hz shift , cent freq  502.8 

Location  io83lk

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Write it up and send it in...

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On 25/10/2007, hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
> Hi all
> I built a class E type TX in a couple of days, my own design layout etc an=
d
> kept it simple, but I am experienced having built equipment over the years
> from the valve era, then transistors and today mostly IC technology. The
> problem for most would be getting the components and this is where Radcom
> falls down, not a single advert even for a resistor. The trouble with the
> big suppliers like Farnell is the cost ie minimum order of =A320 each time=
 a
> component is required.
> My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit t=
he
> cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find
> it would not be published in Radcom.
> My cct consists of an IC706 transmitting a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq
> wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
> cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50
> ohms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50
> metres to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at abo=
ut
> 33 metres vertical and the rest horizontal.
> This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.
> Most of the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. T=
o
> date it has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach woul=
d
> be an EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.
> The PA coil is about 50 years old,  ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with=
 a
> tinned copper winding, just right for the job. The condensers are also ex
> equipment, high voltage.
> Is Radcom interested???
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
>
>
>

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Hello Frank, strong signal, whats kind of antenna used ? balloon ?
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Hi Laurence.
Try    www.aade.com  You will have to put up with the site adverts, the
filter design covers Chebyshev, Butterworth etc. I have tried it and it is
ok, it will even do a full analysis for and design the inductors

Regards
Ken M0KHW    IO91TV

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
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Subject: LF: Chebyshev


Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole
Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months
Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is
typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with
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Hi John, LF,

Well said John !!!

I was tempted to reply with a short statement to Mal's original "moan" so I 
will make that statement now.

"Very narrow minded attitude"

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:29 PM
Subject: LF: Please can we stop moaning now?


> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
>> Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are
>> permitted to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
>> We need two way communications for real time assessment of
>> propagation and not ONE WAY.
>> Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in
>> BEACON mode but forget to mention that they would get the same
>> reports if they were in QSO.I often get reports from near and far
>> while in QSO mode. I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a
>> selected part of the 500 khz band, like the German system and another
>> for real  communications by real radio amateurs preferably using the
>> traditional marine method of CW. G3KEV
>
> Sorry Mal, but I don't understand.
>
> How can one get a signal report, in a 2-way QSO on 500kHz, from OH, DL,
> F, EA, LA and various non-NoV G stations? They can't operate on 500kHz.
>
> Cross-band QSOs are no good - after all that would still be only ONE WAY
> on 500 so a reception report of hearing a beacon is just as valid as a
> cross-band QSO.
>
>
> If I'm in a position to operate I will call CQ and listen for other
> CQs. I've lost count of the CQs I've answered without being heard.
> There are a lot of people out there that stuggle to receinve weak
> signals due to their local noise floors.
>
> I answer every station I hear, until I become convinced that they can't
> hear me, for whatever reason and then give up, making a mental note to
> try again if they are ever heard again at a better strength.
>
>
> But if I can't be at the key then I see no harm in radiating a signal
> for others to use. I presume that when you're not sending CQ on 502.5
> that you are on other bands, persuing other interests? Leaving dead
> stony silence on 500.
>
> I'd rather give something back for others so I sometimes send a beacon,
> but more usually I make available my receiving setup for others to use,
> via my grabber.
>
> I also have live streaming audio from my receiver available via the
> internet, but I'm not revealing here how to receive it! Anyone who
> wants to know can contact me directly.
>
> These things are done as a service to others in the 500kHz community.
>
> Better to be doing something useful while waiting for CW QSOs or
> building gear to improve ones own station, than to sit there bashing
> out terse emails deriding "appliance operators" and the inadequate
> CW skills of the active NoV holders.
>
> As I said previously "I have had over 50 QSOs,with at least 9 stations,
> all in CW and all hand sent". I have never tried to work RTTY or PSK (I
> tried to receive some as a help to someone else).
>
> Am I unique in that my NoV actually states "A1A, CW" as the ONLY
> permitted mode?
>
>
> I don't restrict myself to BEACON MODE. However - how am I going to
> know if a fleeting opening to W or VE occurs at 3am without some form
> of pre-arranged overnight beacon. I can't sit bashing away at the key
> overnight, I have a full time job to hold down.
>
> I never even call CQ with any form of memory keyer - all my CW is live,
> hand sent morse.
>
>
> Please stop this "BEACONS BAD - CW GOOD" nonesense. Anything that helps
> anyone get something new and educational from access to this part of
> the spectrum should be applauded.
>
> I have absolutely no interst in working the "flavour of the month
> DXpedition" on HF, nor of gaining DXCC/WAS/WAC or any other "stamp
> collecting" award.
>
> I'm interested in building/improving my station in order to have REAL
> CW QSOs. I have had many long chats, oftern of well over an hour long,
> in CW on 500, despite shocking conditions and the ridiculous power
> restrictions, during which I've done some real and interesting tests -
> eg reducing TX power to 50mW - no rubber stamp "599 pse agn ur name
> qth" QSO here.
>
>
>
> John GM4SLV
> IP90GG
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
> 



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Hi Dave, yes indeed.

There are two main sources of geomagnetic storm "stimulation". The first is
the well known Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that emanate from the area of
sun-spots and are usually associated with flares,but can be ejected by some
non-flare proceses as well. These are common at the Solar max when the
Sun-spot count is, of course, high. The type of shock we experienced the
other day which caused the aurora and and has been happening at irregular
intervals throughout these quiet years is known as a "coronal hole event"
this is a "tear" in the solar atmosphere which results in the spin off of
coronal material (Hydrogen ions and electrons), much the same as the
background "solar wind" The presence of a coronal hole is like somone in the
garden with a hose being called from the house and swinging round drenching
everyone as the spray sweeps round. The speed of the cooronal hole flow is 2
or three times the speed of the normal solar wind so it causes a magnetic
shock to the geomagnetic field. Some of the plasma, mainly Hydrogen ions and
electrons are able to enter the earths field at the poles, spiralling down
the lines of force to create the magical auroral "curtains" described by
John.

All is not over however as the rest of the "spray" sweeps by and some is
sucked into the magnetic "tail" of the Earth's field a bit like when you
drive a hatchback with the tail-gate slightly open and the exhaust fumes
enter the car. These ions and electrons are drawn back into the Equatorial
Ring Current in the Van Allen Belt and form a reservoir of "hot" electrons
which are bled into the ionosphere at the sunrise edge where the earth's
field is distorted by the pressure of the solar wind. These diffuse down
into the D-layer are "hot" and long lived, and give the excess night-time
attenuation experienced at LF after a "magnetic storm". This even persists
for days after the Kp index has returned to normal low or quiet levels.
After severe storms the ring current can be so highly populated that LF
signals can often be depressed for 3 or 4 weeks. This generally only happens
around the Solar max. and after Kp=9 events.

Phew.....well you DID ask Dave !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Visual Aurora and good condx


> On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:
>
> > Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> > pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> > The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> > things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> > present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> > may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.
>
> Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at
> the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been
> at rock bottom for weeks on end?
>
> Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A
> index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is
> currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.
>
> But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening
> all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys
> playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in
> the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.
>
> What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do
> with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to
> produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art
> (and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).
>
> By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night
> but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far.
> Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep
> QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray
> at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting
> 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).
>
> Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band
> configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if
> we still have NOVs.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>



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Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!
>
> I will correct this error as soon as possible.
>
> I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here 
> than before,
> at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.
>
> How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to hear or
> see signals from them yet.
>

Hi Paul-Henrik,
pse see

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

there they are visible.

regards
Uwe



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:57:06 +0100
"Chris Trayner" <C.Trayner@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Johan,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email.
> 
> > "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
> > orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...


> Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.
>

Hello LF,

Whilst we might not be paying the advertisers for the ads I think
Johan's point was "I don't want to pay money to the RSGB to receive the
ads".

I've just flicked through this month's rather poor RADCOM and make the
following observation:-

Ignoring the "pull out and throw away "Radio Sport roundup"

Total Pages         93
Pages of RSGB's own Ads     9
Pages with commercial Ads   28
Pages with technical content    15

Regular columnists, news, product review a large, and to me
irrelevant, story about yet another a DXpedition and letters etc make up
the rest. 

Of the technical content "Technical Topics" made up 4 of the
pages, leaving 11 spread over :-

EI9GQ's excellent "Homebrew"    4
SDR             2
Technical Correspondance    1
Antennas            2
In Practice         2

None of the technical articles were actual "one off" or
from a series of articles, they were the normal regular content.

I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
work first time.... )


What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
experimentation." 

The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!

RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.


Just my thoughts...


RADCOM has had some great construction projects in recent years - the
PiC-a-STAR for example. I had no intention of building one but enjoyed
reading the articles nonetheless.

4 pages on "how to fit a PL-259" sums up the current need to meet the
aspirations of its current readership I'm afraid.

Cheers,


John GM4SLV


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? Is this a keyboard-keyboard mode ? is it linea or 'fsk'

EER Transverter , not seeing anything on google, is there a link for it ?

Tnx

G ..



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> Jim,
>
>> I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
>> Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.
>
> excellent copy here. Screenshot attached.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp


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Andy and the list,
  Rec'd the following from Joe Taylor:

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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:15:48 +0000
> Hi Warren,
> 
> The WSJT6 User's Guide and Reference Manual should tell you what you 
> need to know about general operation of the program.  You can download 
> it from the WSJT Home Page, http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ . 
> A direct link to the manual is
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT_User_600.pdf .
> 
> The manual does not explicitly cover the new experimental modes JT2 and 
> JT4.  Their operation is very similar to the JT65 modes, however.
> 
> WSJT always operates with timed T/R sequences.  For JT65, JT2, and JT4 
> these are one minute each way.  Transmissions actually last for about 47 
> seconds; the remaining portion of your "Tx minute" is used for the other 
> station to decode your message so that he may reply suitably.  Tx and Rx 
> computer clocks mist be synchronized to within +/- one or two seconds. 
> A Tx/Rx sequence is started by toggling the Auto button to On.  You can 
> select whether you will "Tx First" (i.e., in the even-numbered minutes" 
> or not.
> 
> The program does not have a beacon mode, but it will transmit the same 
> message in alternate minutes as long as you wish.
> 
> If you let me know when you will transmit on 500 kHz (or, for that 
> matter, on one of the lower bands), I would be interested in listening.
> 
>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 
> 
> k2ors@comcast.net wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> > 
> >    I've seen your software mentioned on the RSGB and LWCA e-mail reflectors. I 
> downloaded WSJT 5.9.8 r558 and attempted to send JT-2 messages on 500kHz (I have 
> an experimental license that lets me do this), but was not successful and having 
> anyone decode it.
> > 
> > Basic Questions:
> > 
> > 1) How accurate does the PC clock need to be?
> > 2) I am assuming that the way you transmit is by filling in the text boxes in 
> the 
> > lower right of the screen next to Tx1 - Tx6 - and then press the corresponding 
> > button tx1...tx6 ?
> > 3) Is there a way to set up a repeating beacon message?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your help with this!
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 73 Warren K2ORS
> > WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> > WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> > 
> > FN42hi
> > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm



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Dear all,

just heard in CW with fair readibility GI3PDN at 23.55 UTC, Oct. 25th,
around 502,6 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

Nothing this night from GM3SLV and GI4DPE.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 


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Hello  Gentlemen,
this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am 
finishing ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz 
already, i have built from the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing  
peripherial hardware  for the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
 and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a 
successful qso with some  of you  some day
very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming  
weeks...

                                                                                            
73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs


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Hi Mal, LF,

You wrote earlier today :-

> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after 
> dark.

I ran SpecLab as usual & I an receiving lots of lines/signals which are 
never there. In the lower part of the band I usually only see a line just 
over 501.900 KHz (that is the very strong line in the capture) all the other 
traces are normally there.

 I can't tell if it is conditions or something local.

Any comments welcome please.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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> Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
> afternoon here in bright sunshine.
> Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after 
> dark.
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> 

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:

> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
> view the AM on a scope.
> 
> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
> 
> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 


Hello Andy,

I think you're near Southampton?
Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power 
filler - HI!)

Found this listing too

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf

Any help?

John GM4SLV
Shetland


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In a recent message, hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote ...
>If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
>Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are permitted
>to have two way communications.This does not make sense.

You won't be hearing any beacons or data from me on 501-504kHz, Mal, as 
beacon and data operation is not included on my SRP NoV - just A1A CW.

The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence and 
is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.  I note that no Beacons are 
permitted below 1960kHz (not even on 136kHz) and even then can only be 
used for DF competitions.

I presume that UK stations operating Beacons on 501-504kHz and on 136kHz 
must have special permits to do so.  I do not.

73

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Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
Not listened to the 137 khz ,
it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
so that I can bring it into service.
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj



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Hi All,

Running same as last night but 85 Hz shift.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hello Paul-Henrik,

I am not sure if this applies to the NRD-91 too, but with serveral 
radios used here (including, but not limited to KenwoodYaesuIcom), it's 
important not only to turn the AGC function off, but also to turn the 
manual RF gain down far enough, so the audio output level is a few dB 
below the normal output level (with AGC on, and RF gain at maximum). 
This avoids clipping in the IF or AF stages; providing enough headroom 
for stronger signals.
In all cases, this cured the effect of "blanked QRSS screens" from 
neighbouring stations on 137 kHz.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

(... called CQ for hours last weekend in normal CW from DK4U; no reply; 
but the antenna current meter jumped up to 2 Ampere which is the 
"mid-winter value". Looking forward for more activity soon; and possibly 
some 500m / 2200m crossband activity ...)


Paul-Henrik schrieb:
> I'm afraid I need a different receiver to sort that tight inferno out. The AGC
> off position of my NRD-91 RX does not completely turn off the AGC and the
> result is too much blanking in the FFT-picture from the stronger stations.
> Maybe I should try the FT-980 with a homebrew downconverter instead.
>
> Thanks for the info Uwe!
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>   



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LF,

Hearing G3WCE ( fairly sure it's that) calling CQ on 502.5, RST439 in
QRN

Despite many replies I haven't been able to raise him! This is a new
call to me, anyone have any info/contact details? 

QRZ.com says he's in Norfolk, but no email address.

Nice to hear a new call at least!

John
GM4SLV 
Clousta, Shetland



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Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
Sent: 19 October 2007 19:52
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: dl1eie@darc.de
Subject: DL1EIE - Report


Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#

DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" in
transmit frequency.

Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

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OK, Tnx.
Its definitely Fareham then,  the MF mast only 5.5km away, on the top
of a hill and visible from the A27, near the M27 Junction.  Wondered
what that mast was radiating.

At 5500m,  1kW ERP works out 2.6uW /m^2,  or 31.5mV/m here, so I'm not
too surprised its that strong.   Now to filter the soundcard output.
 On the output of the upconverter chip, at 1.3GHz, I was seeing strong
sidebands at 1.2MHz and at first thought they were a sprog.  But it
was just the upconverter doing its job!

Andy  G4JNT


On 02/10/2007, Tony Magon <tmagon@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Andy
>
> Virgin AM has a local transmitter at Fareham. Its only 1kw, but it puts
> in a very strong signal around the area. Have monitored it using a
> remote receiver at Gosport.
>
> Regards
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> Tony VK2IC
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> Andy Talbot wrote:
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> > tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.<BR>
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Last night also good clear signals from XGJ and XES on or near 137.779. Warr=
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In my earlier mail I stated

> Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.

I should have said drifting up, as my Rx is set to LSB & I have not mirrored 
the image.

Sorry.

Gary.

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi LF,
>
> They have collided !!!!
>
> Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:05 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks 
>> like
>> they are on collision course.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:12 PM
>> Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>>
>>
>>> Hi LF,
>>>
>>> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong
>>> and
>>> audible using normal morse (CW).
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>>
>>
> 



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How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?

Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!

Andy  G4JNT


On 25/10/2007, Reeves Paul <Paul.Reeves@uk.thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> How about the strange new appearances? I was intrigued by 'Radio Sports' and
> had visions of pole vaulting with 136KHz verticals, throwing the FT817 and
> weight lifting with the R-390. But no, just more contests.....
>
> 73s
> Paul   g8gja
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Talbot [mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 24 October 2007 10:53
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RADCOM
>
>
> My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
> In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.
>
> Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> > "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> > >
> > > G3KEV
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Mal
> >
> > I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> > was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> > read, so little time!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
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Many tnx fer rprt Gary my info qrz.com
  vy 73 petefmt

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi All at LF,

Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-

G0NBD - RTTY beacon
GW4HXO - CW beacon
GI4DPE - CW & tone beacon
M0FMT - QRSS beacon
G3VXL - QRSS beacon
G3XIZ - QRSS beacon

Not quite so strong :-

G0MRF - multi mode beacon

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



       
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<div>Many tnx fer rprt Gary my info qrz.com</div>  <div>vy 73 petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi All at LF,<BR><BR>Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-<BR><BR>G0NBD - RTTY beacon<BR>GW4HXO - CW beacon<BR>GI4DPE - CW &amp; tone beacon<BR>M0FMT - QRSS beacon<BR>G3VXL - QRSS beacon<BR>G3XIZ - QRSS beacon<BR><BR>Not quite so strong :-<BR><BR>G0MRF - multi mode beacon<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;


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ADDED  PSK31 , CENT 503K

Fow weak  signal comparison ,  .


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> 20:00 > 24:00  approx .
>
> Running , test , AMTOR - FEC 85 HZ SHIT   ~  RTTY 45.45 . 85 HZ SHIFT
>
> FREQ
>
> 503.15    RTTY
> 503    502.85    FEC
> In use , MMTY , 'normal,  RTTY Multipsk ,  Amtor-fec
> Tx set ,  502, usb . , tone freq, cent 1000  Hz   + 150 , rtty , -150 Fec
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
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>
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> -- 
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 
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>
> 




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Hello Joe ,

Last night , if I trust the capture of John, on the NA frequency there=20
is a trace at 05:10 (see Capt_96) it is perhaps a beginning ?=85.
The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj




Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
> has been improved by the latest changes and this should
> improve your chances of reception.
>
> Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
> Joe
>
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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Mal,

  Yes, its on Lyle's web site:
http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/

 Look for the file mfj259.zip  halfway down the list of links on his page.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> Hi all
> Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
> B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
> de Mal/G3KEV
> 
> 



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Hi All at LF,

Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-

G0NBD - RTTY beacon
GW4HXO - CW beacon
GI4DPE - CW & tone beacon
M0FMT - QRSS beacon
G3VXL - QRSS beacon
G3XIZ - QRSS beacon

Not quite so strong :-

G0MRF - multi mode beacon

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Mal,

Send them a summary (a couple of paragraphs) and see if they are interested.=
  If they bite, don't worry about following their typographic standards.  I=20=
would expect that, like most periodicals, they will reset your copy anyway.=20=
 The same goes for illustrations.  They will tell you what they need for pho=
tographs but as far as diagrams they will redraw them to their house style.

John=20

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/10/2007 at 16:12 hamilton mal wrote:

[ ... ]

>My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit th=
e cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find=
 it would not be published in Radcom.  My cct consists of an IC706 transmitt=
ing a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by=20=
a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50 oh=
ms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50 metr=
es to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at about 33=20=
metres vertical and the rest horizontal.

>This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.  Most of=
 the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. To >date i=
t has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach would >be an=
 EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.  The PA coil is about 50 years old,=20=
 ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with a tinned copper winding, just right=20=
for the job. The condensers are also ex equipment, high voltage.

>Is Radcom interested???






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Hi LF

All QSY up, but LF graber ON

http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html

Dmitry
RA3YO




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Its surprising how many amateurs subscriber to this reflector but have no
opinion, SITTING ON THE FENCE. !!!!!!!!!!!!
Come out of the woodwork and let us all know what you think.
G3KEV




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At 16.25 25/10/2007, you wrote:
>Hello,
>very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get access?
>
>many thanks
>vy73
>Marco
>DD7PC

Easy, it is the organ of the RSGB. You get it by subscribing to RSGB, 
like you get QST by subscribing to ARRL.

Marco IK1ODO



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It's probably worth pointing out that the archive CD's of RadCom seem to be 
available to Non-members from the RSGB shop, (on-line store) so you can get 
hold of past issues of RadCom even if you are not a member.

http://www.rsgbshop.org/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Radcom___QST_17.html
73
Hugh M0WYE


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:35 PM
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> Sri - we're being rather parochial.  Radcom is the magazine of the
> RSGB, for members only.  It used to be half full of  technical
> articles with the rest made up of operating, news and events.   Now it
> seems to be all about events, people, HF contesting, amateur radio
> celebrities and holiday photographs; what technical stuff it pretends
> to include under that category consists of a beginners / homebrew
> column, which to be fair is very good - if you're a beginner!  There
> is a regular column which has the audacity to be called "Technical
> Topics" but is more of a nostalgia trip for its writer and ought to be
> called radio history.  Another column "In Practice" often carries the
> only circuit diagrams to be found in some months' issues.  There are
> some other regular columns which were originally meant to be operating
> based, but some of the authors of those (I'm one) include mainly
> technical matters to try to make up for the rest of the magazine.
> What is lacking, and gives the magazine its boring image is the lack
> in recent years of full blown constructional or technical articles.
>
> As someone who took to writing technical articles for magazines about
> a decade ago, and have written quite a few since, all I can say is
> give it a go.   I found that the real difficulty to producing any
> article is making the start.  If you are writing about something
> you've done, and completed to your satisfaction, once the first bit is
> started the  words will flow.   Diagrams and cross references
> generally take up the most time (and cause most errors).   Diagrams
> are always redrawn so you don't have to be too particular about
> supplying neat ones.
>
> In particular, they are interested in the shorter weekend project,
> typically one to two pages (1000 - 2000 words approx) and the largest
> likely to get into print these days runs to 4 pages - that appears to
> be a dictate from high and does preclude some really good big things.
>
> Anything submitted to Radcom these days has to be passed by the RSGB's
> Technical Committee (TC), and they usually offer a few helpful
> comments if any changes are needed.   The editor himself is an
> experienced writer, and can, if needed, make a superb job of editing
> the English / grammar etc.  My first experience of Giles was when the
> article on the Bell Hill microwave beacons had to be cut from 6 to 4
> pages.   (Considering we'd already had a very intensive editing
> session to get th eoriginal size down as requested by TC, he managed
> to reduce the size by a further 33% without losing anything of the
> content).
>
> Enough of that parochial rant, this reflector isn't really the place,
> we should be trying to influence the Board / editors really.  But
> there are a lot of subscribers to this reflector who do produce
> interesting technical stuff, and the magazine does have a dearth of
> stuff.   Give writing a try - it gets very addictive after a while.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 25/10/2007, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get 
>> access?
>>
>> many thanks
>> vy73
>> Marco
>> DD7PC
>> ________________________________
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of
>> G0MRF@aol.com
>> Sent: 25 October 2007 16:03
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: 500 LF: RADCOM
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Andy.
>>
>> I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced
>> recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and
>> found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up 
>> call.
>> There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when 
>> technical
>> articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to 
>> appear.
>> I wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being
>> published?
>> Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an 
>> individual
>> and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to give
>> 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.
>> 1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering but
>> without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks 
>> and
>> a binocular microscope to build it.
>> 2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key 
>> components
>> for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
>>
>> This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG 
>> and
>> Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
>> comercial equipment exists.
>> Of course, something working against this process at present is that 
>> 500kHz
>> is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
>> Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
>> nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
>> Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
>> definable?
>> Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
>>
>> Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
>> 03/08.
>>
>> So many things to do, so little time.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> David  G0MRF
>>
>> In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
>> andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:
>> How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
>> tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
>>
>> Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
>> is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
>> sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
>> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
>> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>>
>>
> 



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Not online, but download, install and run--

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----- Original Message ----- 
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Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 
pole Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this 
months Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or 
so; this is typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence 
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Dear all, 

just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz apart,
GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at 501,4 kHz and
501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have some QSB, GI4DPE
more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about the same level.

Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 

As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a regular
possibility in autumn and winter nights.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Thanks Mal  G3KEV, for the xband contact tonight. I was using 50 watts  to a 
80/40 trap dipole. One of the problems with dual receive was the loss of  the 
500 khz signal when the auto atu was in cct for 80m. So at the end of each  
transmission I had to switch the atu out of cct. I apologise for the  morse, I 
am not used to qso'ing on the key. I can usually manage the rubber  stamp stuff 
for dx chasing and contesting, but qso'ing will require more  practice. I 
have had a nearly retirement gift from the company I work for, of a  Kent brass 
straight key, so have no excuses when I retire just before Xmas. I  used the 
rigs inbuilt keyer with a Bencher paddle tonight and that runs away  with me 
sometimes. I will track down John GM4SLV for a cross band contact.  I heard him 
on this evening and called him a couple of times on the 80m  frequency before I 
had the contact with you. We have been in contact  through email nearly from 
the start of his operations on 500Khz. 
So thanks again Mal and 73.
Mike G3YPE  



   

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Alberto,

that kind of connector is still available and is called
"Micro Ribbon". 14, 24, 36 and 50 pole versions are common.

73
Johan SM6LKM


Alberto di Bene skrev:
> Off topic, sorry...
> 
>   Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the interconnecting 
> cable between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter and the accompanying 
> PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar to the Centronics 
> connector at the printer end of a parallel printer cable, only with a 
> smaller number of pins (24 I think).
> 
> Thanks for any info
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD


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Updated my website with screenshots taken last night:

137 kHz: UA4WPF and WD2XGJ
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: complete chirped Hell transmission from M0BMU, CW capture of
GM4SLV and G0MRF in QRSS3
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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On 31 Oct 2007 at 16:42, MGreenw969@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks Mal  G3KEV, for the xband contact tonight. I was using 50 watts
>  to a 80/40 trap dipole. One of the problems with dual receive was the
> loss of  the 500 khz signal when the auto atu was in cct for 80m. So
> at the end of each  transmission I had to switch the atu out of cct. I
> apologise for the  morse, I am not used to qso'ing on the key. I can
> usually manage the rubber  stamp stuff for dx chasing and contesting,
> but qso'ing will require more  practice. I have had a nearly
> retirement gift from the company I work for, of a  Kent brass straight
> key, so have no excuses when I retire just before Xmas. I  used the
> rigs inbuilt keyer with a Bencher paddle tonight and that runs away 
> with me sometimes. I will track down John GM4SLV for a cross band
> contact.  I heard him on this evening and called him a couple of times
> on the 80m  frequency before I had the contact with you. We have been
> in contact  through email nearly from the start of his operations on
> 500Khz. So thanks again Mal and 73. Mike G3YPE  
> 
> 

Just trying to get myself sorted out for this crossband stuff. Using 
my K2 on both 80m and 500kHz (via the Datong UC1) and relying on the 
500kHz for my sidetone means I have to click the band up/down button 
twice to change the the receiver between the two bands (between 10m 
and 80m). Not particularly quick changeover..... But I don't have any 
antenna changeover problems, the two antennas are totally 
independent.

Just listening to G3YPE working G3UNT crossband. Brian is 599 on 
502kHz whereas Mike is only just above the noise on 80m. It seems 
conditions are now in their winter mode where you can't work G-land 
on 80m in the evenings!

Now Brian is working F6BWO, also very weak on 80m.

At least it is bringing some activity to the band.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
>
> Hallo ALL!
>
> Hard QRM and QSB  this night (the same as last night). Signal of=20
> GM4SLV was the best around midnight UTC.
>
> =20
>
>
Thanks for the report Lubos.

It looks like my plain CW signal is getting out well now. For others who=20
may thing Lubos's screenshot is of QRSS - it's not! It's of slowish=20
speed CW, about 8wpm? from a TiCK-4 memory keyer. It's slow enough to be=20
readable in very narrow filter, or on a waterfall screen, but fast=20
enough to be readable by ear! The best of both worlds!

Best 73,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:03:01 +0200
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
> 

> >
> > How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able
> > to hear or see signals from them yet.
> >
> 
> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> pse see
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
> 
> there they are visible.
> 
> regards
> Uwe
> 
> 

Hi Uwe, Paul-Henrik and LF,

This link:-

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

should give an autimatically upating view, every 5 minutes.

Cheers,

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Confirmed per the 500kc.com site but like Hartmut says, 505.750 is 
Dave's CW freq he likes to hang out at so watch there too.

Here's the freq list:

CALL    STATION     QRSS FREQUENCY  CW BEACON FREQUENCY     
                    
W1FR    WD2XSH/14   505.250     505.300     
W5TVW   WD2XSH/2    505.251     505.350     
AI8Z    WD2XSH/12   505.252     505.400     
W2ILA   WD2XSH/9    505.253     505.450     
                    
K9EUI   WD2XSH/19   505.254     505.500     
K0JO    WD2XSH/13   505.255     505.550     
WB2FCN  WD2XSH/22   505.256     505.600     
N6LF    WD2XSH/20   505.257     505.650     
                    
W5OR    WD2XSH/15   505.258     505.700     
AA1A    WD2XSH/17   505.259     505.750     
W5JGV   WD2XSH/7    505.260     505.800
N4ICK   WD2XSH/8    505.261     505.850     
                    
KW1I    WD2XSH/5    505.262     505.900
N1EA    WD2XSH/18   505.263     506.050     
WS4S    WD2XSH/11   505.264     506.000     
KD5UWL  WD2XFX          525.265     506.050     
                    
W5THT   WD2XSH/6    505.266     506.100     
W4DEX   WD2XSH/10   505.267     506.150     
W1NZR   WD2XSH/1    505.268     506.200     
WE0H    WD2XSH/16   505.269     506.250     
                    
K2ORS   WD2XSH/23   505.270     506.300     


Mike
/16


Laurence KL1X wrote:
> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -
>  
> thanks
>  
> Laurence G4DMA/M


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How can we have regular skeds when there are only 4 regular stations active,
one on RTTY, one on CW, one on PSK and another only on BEACON mode.
My previous message must have escaped YOU.

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> I dearly love subscribing to this list, absent the periodic "harrumps"
> from those insisting that most of us are well down the road to perdition.
>
> Anyway, please allow a suggestion. I recall nothing in our regulations
> over here that amateur contacts must arise from a chance meeting of
> operators at the same time on the same frequency under conditions that
> would support a QSO. Assuming the same is true on the other other side
> of the pond, why not have some publicly-announced regular schedules
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> should at least encourage listening or even on-air participation by
> others. Coordination could easily be handled on this mail list.
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> Were I an Ofcom official (perish the thought), I'd be much more
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Many thanks Paul- Henrik/Graham/Gary,

 

Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the help of GI4DPE.

 

Now running beacon on 501.6 for OK2BVG

 

73 to all

 

Mike GW4HXO.

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--Subject: LF: GW4HXO Q3 in KP03SD 

 

Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on 501.5kHz. He was
a Q3

copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.

 

As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another
QSO. A

QRZ at Q5 was called a few 100Hz below.

 

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the hel=
p of GI4DPE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
ont-size: 10.0pt'>Now running beacon on 501.6 for OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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was a Q3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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another QSO. A<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'f=
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Hartmut,
> The new ones heard last night:
  
  Are these NDB's ?


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

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> 
> The new ones heard last night:
> 
> 09.10.2007      21:13   326     C       HNG     Debrecen
> 09.10.2007      23:17   327     NC8     LBY     Hamada NC-8
> 09.10.2007      21:00   343     E       ROU     Craiova
> 10.10.2007      00:33   346     BRD     IRN     Bojnurd
> 09.10.2007      22:26   346     Y       HNG     Nyiregyhaza
> 
> 73
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While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
view the AM on a scope.

There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)

Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


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If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...

Andy  G4JNT
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From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
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Hi Andy,

Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.

       -- 73, Joe, K1JT


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Hello LF

I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
light pollution!

I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.

Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-

G3YHV Colin, Bristol
G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing

and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT

Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.

My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.


I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
ongoing somewhere within radio range.

Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a
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Vern - VE1VDM


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Just copied GI3PDN in QSO with G3XVL on 502.5kHz. GI3PDN was S0.5-S1 over no=
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Only faint signals from the other party (identified by GI3PDN's transmission=
s)
were copied in the beginning of the QSO.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa, Finland, KP03SD



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Improved T/A conditions on 500 kHz last night. Brief copy of a "/6" in
QRSS3 on 505.266 kHz about 05:00.The cw trace of XSH/17 was visible on
the QRSS3 captures on 505.75 kHz. On the cw captures the signal was
visible, but hard to read. Best around 01:55.

The signal strength plot of the G0MRF beacon shows a poorer overnight
signal strength than usual. Best around 23:30.

Captures of XSH/6 and G0MRF can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hartmut
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
23:00=>02:30  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )

On 187 kHz :
17:30=>18:20  traces on frequency VO1NA (??????)

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

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Dear LF Group,

I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.

I am testing a new HF - LF/MF transverter I have been working on. It takes
output from an HF SSB rig at 4.5MHz and mixes it down to 500kHz. It also
up-converts the receive signal. The HF rig (IC718) is set up to run "sound
card modes" from a PC (at the moment, the Chirped Hell signal is being
produced by DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab), so the system ought to work with just
about any mode that will run on the PC. The transverter has a linear 500kHz
output that could go to a linear PA, but I thought it would be more
interesting to modify my existing class D 500kHz TX to operate in an
envelope elimination and restoration (EER) mode. So the transverter also has
a limiting amplifier to produce a square wave carrier which drives the class
D PA, and an envelope detector that recovers the modulation envelope and
drives a series modulator that controls the PA output amplitude. The
modulator uses the existing DC current limiter/keying circuit in the TX.
Although the modulator dissipates some power, the overall efficiency is
quite good provided the modulaton has a reasonably low crest factor. I have
also tested the system with PSK31, and the unwanted high-order sidebands are
down 35dB or more on the main sidebands, so the output spectrum is fairly
clean and comparable with normal HF practice.

So I now seem to have a fairly universal 500kHz TX/RX system - does anyone
want to try any interesting modes?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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Hi all,

I don't read RADCOM, but in Germany, we basicly have the same problem. I would
love to see more projects etc. in the ham radio magazines, but when talking to
the publishers, there usually is one basic problem: nobody submits technical
articles. (anyway, they have lots of non-technical articles on stock)

I can only guess but these might be some of the reasons:

- Hams who are good technicians often are no good writers or simply not
interested in writing.
- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you at
10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since they
think they are excellent enough for doing so.

You probably can ask every ham radio magazine and offer to submit a 
_technical_
article, and they will love you for that. Might be the same in Germany than in
UK.

73, Oliver
(DL9QJ, N3NSF)










Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> Hi Mal, LF,
>
> You wrote :-
>
>> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
>> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>> Does anyone else have an opinion.
>
> Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be 
> submitting ideas & articles to the RadCom team.
>
> I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they 
> don't know the stuff is there how can they print it ??
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>



-- 
[Dr. Oliver Welp
welp@muenster.de]


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Hi Laurence,

   Thank you for the report from your mobile. It was the first transmission from WD2XGJ since the 10th of January! Testing a new antenna setup (parallel loops made up of coaxial cable) with low power (250 watts). I have to assemble the higher power tuner components in a box before I can run full power with the Decca tx.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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> 
> SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.
>  
> Last night also good clear signals from XGJ and XES on or near 137.779. Warrens 
> QRSS looks like it was visible from his switch on. John XES came on later and I 
> only caught a strong DFCW X before my laptop battery died in the car. There was 
> a loran line just HF of Warren that followed the gradual increase in Warrens 
> strength. At 0500z when I turned on the car inverter it looks like both were off 
> but that Loran line had faded too. Good to see some signals, strong too.
>  
> 73 Laurence G4DMA mobile
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.<BR>
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil
On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Jim,

That would of been , Gary G4WGT , running  45.45 baud rtty at 85 Hz shift

noticed your signal early in the evening , but dident  'twig' it was a data 
signal , can you tx in psk31 ? may of printed


Graham ..


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> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
> tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
> with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of 
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> Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Mal,

The harmonic content of a divider's rectangular waveform would be a 
problem for the wideband detector circuitry in the analyzer. The 
waveform is typically not an issue for a classic bridge with a receiver 
for a detector, as the harmonics are ignored.

If you could incorporate a good low pass filter to take out the third 
harmonic and above, then your idea should work.

John A.

hamilton mal wrote:
> Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded, much
> appreciated.
> One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
> divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use the
> 4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band). Has
> anyone seen a cct along these lines.


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Brief weak copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz
around 05:30 UTC.
The QRSS10 signal from WE2XGR/2 was captured on a QRSS3 screen and was
visible 23:35-00:45 UTC. After 00:45 Jay was sending CW but to weak
for a copy.

>From the UK copied G0MRF, GI4DPE and GM4SLV.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Greetings all,

Just worked G3JKV from IO91UF ...=20
... in SSB on 144.3 MHz ! Realized a bit too late to suggest trying LF / VHF=
 crossband;
so Walter, if you are still on, please try again on 144.300 MHz (I am listen=
ing there, from DK4U / DL4YHF).

Thanks for the (VHF-) QSO, looking forward for another one.

73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF / DK4U=20






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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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>snip----
> The old F M CAMM comic of years ago 

Methinks you meant F J Camm

Dave ZL3FJ ( No FJ bias here......)


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Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  start=20
beaconing ?
In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kHz 1=
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Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
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Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

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Joe VO1NA








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Last night , nothing here .
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj



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Hello LF,

Just to dispel the myth of no CW QSO activity...

I called CQ on 502.5kHz at 21:20 UTC and was called by Chris G3XVL. The
QRN was fierce, and Chris is quite a weak signal up here all the way
from Ipswich, a distance of ~914km. I sent him RST 339 and heard back
(straining in the noise) 339? (and I think later 559) 

We had to call it a day though due to the noise.


-- 
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Im at Heathrow and tracked the GI4DPE beacon all the way down from Nottingha=
m - I lost audibililty at J15 and in town the sig is only just visible at qr=
ss 3 but now coming up as we goto dusk but the hire cars now back at Avis so=
 dont have an antennae platform.=20
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Also heard G3UNT calling CQ 599 @ J15 M1, and a G4GDR/G3D (?) qso - again I=20=
should have written down the calls but full R5 some 10-30dB above noise nr D=
erby. G0MRF beacon was visible and audible for most of the way apart from wh=
en going around the M25 and some very noisy pylons. I think I reported the G=
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Im at Heathrow and tracked the GI4DPE beacon all the way down from Nottingha=
m - I lost audibililty at J15 and in town the sig is only just visible at qr=
ss 3 but now coming up as we goto dusk but the hire cars now back at Avis so=
 dont have an antennae platform.&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Also heard G3UNT calling CQ 599 @ J15 M1, and a G4GDR/G3D (?) qso - again I=20=
should have written down the calls but full R5 some 10-30dB above noise nr D=
erby. G0MRF beacon was visible and audible for most of the way apart from wh=
en going around the M25 and some very noisy pylons. I think I reported the G=
I4dpe and SLv qso last night again lots of qsb but always R5<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the signals chaps&nbsp;- <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
73 Im outta here.<BR>
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Hi John, ALL!
The weather is changing, so very QRN on the band. But signal from GM4SLV
is good. I saw GI4DPE on 501.315 as well.
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Again high static level last night. Brief copy of the QRSS3 signals
from WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz and WE2XGR/3 on 506.7 kHz between 01:20 and
01:50.

Strong signal from GI4DPE beaconing on 501.3 kHz in CW and good
overnight copy of G0MRF beaconing on 503.7 kHz.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hallo OM=B4s!
Beacon OK0EMW will be switched off from 5.10.2007 to 7.10.2007. I am
going to receive on 500kHz away from the city, on portable about 5km
fare of  nearest village. I am looking forward to good reception in the
unpolluted nature. I hope the QRN will be low, my primary interest is
testing some rx aerials baming to UK.
=20
73 and GL on 500kHz!
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Hi, Gary.

In fact, it didn't get bounced...it just got delayed for about 20 minutes,
so I ended up sending it twice :-$

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Hi Dave,

Strange you say it bounced as I have your first e-mail via LF for the same
report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----
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> Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 19 October 2007 19:52
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>
> Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#
>
> DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble"
> in
> transmit frequency.
>
> Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>






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Hi Dave,

Strange you say it bounced as I have your first e-mail via LF for the same 
report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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> Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 19 October 2007 19:52
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> Cc: dl1eie@darc.de
> Subject: DL1EIE - Report
>
>
> Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#
>
> DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" 
> in
> transmit frequency.
>
> Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> 



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---Ursprüngliche Nachricht---
Absender: <087321565-0001@T-Online.de>
Empfänger: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
Betreff: Re: LF: GI4DPE and GM4SLV
Datum: 18. Oct 2007 01:46

Dear Alan,

thank You for your comments on the propagation.

I have read already on the LF server that conditions last night have
been regarded rather favourite by others, for shorter communication
distances.

Tonight I still can hear John very clear again around 23.30 UTC; the
noise level is lower. But on the other hand I have missed GI4DPE
beaconing tonight.

I shall continue to monitor the band.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Hello all on LF ,

Tonight no listening in 137 kHz ! sorry .
i am problem : both RX on same antenna =3D big noise !.......
I will try to find a solution as fast possible .
I listening only 187 kHz .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>

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Hello Ed ,
i listening in 137.7~
73 qro J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =E9crit :
> Ga LF.
> =20
> testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
> most welcome.
> =20
> Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ

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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Graham,

I assume you use one of the "stable" (not "unstable") releases... I recently=
 modified the buffer structure to support very long FFT's, which caused some=
 problems with the memory allocation.

To get SpecLab running again without re-installing it, delete the files SETT=
INGS.INI and MCONFIG.INI in the SpecLab directory. This takes you back to th=
e safe default values, and allows you to select one of the predefined settin=
gs from the main menu.

Best regards,
  Wolf  DL4YHF

(currently without internet access at home; sri for the ads adde by the webm=
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----- original Nachricht --------

Betreff: LF: Spec lab wont run ...... win xp-pro
Gesendet: So 28 Okt 2007 20:15:38 CET
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> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried=20
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there=
=20
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
>=20
> Tnx
>=20
> Graham ..=20
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--- original Nachricht Ende ----










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Ok Gary,

Thats the full 'tape ... can you reduce the rx signal, see when it stops 
printing ?

Tnx

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight


> Graham, LF,
>
> Thanks for the help earlier, I have the hang of the software now.
>
> test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd 
> qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq tesg0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com 
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd 
> g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl 
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq t
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:34 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
> midnight
>
>
>
>
> The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...
>
> How to  set mode
>
> Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'
>
> You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 
> 0)... afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250 
> 4-500  etc ....
>
> click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ 
> tones 8)
>
> tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to 
> stop wandering caused by noise
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Graham
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08 PM
>  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
> midnight
>
>
>  Hi,all.
>
>  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .
>
>  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out 
> perform  psk31
>
>  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone 
> freq , I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- 
> few c/s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .
>
>  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal 
> fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy
>
>  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<
>
>  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below 
> the noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede ,
>
>  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center 
> frequency to  that of the transmission and software settings
>
>  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb 
> .. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 
> 'carrier'
>
>  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 
> 1300 Hz
>
>   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software 
> will provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses 
> and reduce the s/n at the rx .
>
>
>
>  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent 
> appeare to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.
>
>  Software can be downloaded from :-
>
>  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm
>
>  select :-
>
>
>   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)
>
>
>  Tnx
>
>  Graham
>
>  G0NBD
>
>  io83lk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi all
Those stations active in EU that cannot work direct on 500 khz please work
xband for a real time QSO.
I will monitor 3533/7033 khz when working in the shack and QSX when calling
CQ. The 7033 freq would be more suitable daytime but I will check both.
Anyone else active on 500 in the UK could also check in for an xband QSO.
Mode normal CW.
I have worked several EU countries already using xband, not a lot during
daytime because of the power restrictions but night time is better.
73 de Mal/G3KEV




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Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in OH/KP03SD=
 at
17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once durin=
g
the past week.

As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although it
would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lack of
2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the breaktrough fr=
om
happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular basis" b=
ut
your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here. Late ni=
ght
propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with plenty of=20=
time
for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in normal=
 CW:
http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt

The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot her=
e
during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best for
DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over noise.
That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well aware=20=
of
the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-meter
needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with 10W EMRP=20=
if
I remeber correctly.

So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other countrie=
s as
well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD

Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:

> Hi all
> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more internationa=
l
> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of the
> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 give=
n
> that there is some other acty on the band.
> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothi=
ng
> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
> de G3KEV
>
>
>
>




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Hello LF,

prompted by Alan Melia I've just done a bit of research into the 
distance worked last night in my QSO with Peter G3LDO. 

My geography of the south of England is poor... he told me his QTH was 
"nr Worthing" but I didn't think this would be so far away! Peter was 
unable to give an IARU locator last night but a quick visit to QRZ.COM 
and www.nearby.org.uk gives me a rought estimate of IO90ST


QRB/QTE software gives the distance as 1052km / 644 miles

Previously my best DX was with Tom G3OLB at 1039km in August. This new 
QSO with Peter 'LDO pushes me about as far as I can go until someone in 
Cornwall appears on the band!

Anyone know of suitable GU/GJ stations they can persuade to tool up for 
500?

Cheers,

John






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Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the 
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb 
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this 
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .






----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
>>
>> Gary.
>>
>>
> Here you are Graham and the LF group
>
>
> g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
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> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n
>
>
>
> error free!
>
> I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
> into/below the noise.
>
>
>
> -- 
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> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
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don't will be able to hold out till the start of December.

to the 107's anniversary of Marconi's first transatlantic-)=20



Congratulation's!



10.10.07, 10:29, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV (gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk):



> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:24 +0000

> Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> > Hello all,

> >=20

> > I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest

> > to some of you 500khz folks.

> Hi Vernon. LF,

> This is fantastic news and might be a great source of encouragement to

> the 500kHz experimenters here in the UK.

> > GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.

> > Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish

> > DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.

> >

> I'm really amazed at this report. I know Finbar, from participating in

> the 500kHz experiment and I'm sure he'll be very glad of the report.

> > Receiver - R75

> > Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire

> > N/S Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center

> > Software - Spectran / Argo

> You forgot to list "Golden Ears"

> > I will keep watching for others as conditions improve

> Thanks Vernon! I certainly would love to hear a report from you. My

> path might be a bit more difficult than Finbar's as I'm bit furhter

> north, but I'm willing to give it a go!

> Well done both stations.

> Regards,

> John GM4SLV

> Clousta, Shetland

> IP90gg



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Thank-you for monitoring Jean-Pierre.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Nil
>
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>
> 73 J-P f1afj
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>QST has become a umm Fluffy rag

...you mean that your getting tired of the "How To Build a Dipole" and the
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Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,
GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ. G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz
upwards overnight.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on
505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.

73
Hartmut
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Glad I'm not the only one still waiting!!
Thought 'the colonies' QTH may have had something to do with it--  
perhaps not....
Dave, ZL3FJ (member since 1968)

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> Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !
> 73 Laurie G3AQC
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Hi All,

If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
502.5 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00

Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  1.5 Khz

mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,

Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...

**** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***

Tnx

Graham

G0NBD
IO83LK 




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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:08:32 +0100 (BST)
Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really
> renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. 

Hi Pete,

Fancy a CW QSO on 502.5 later this evening as a rest from all the
beaconing stations? 

To be honest I don't suffer any QRM from any station even if they do
beacon non-stop as my nearest is still over 500km away. I'd rather
there were some signals on the band at all times, beacons or otherwise,
instead of silence!

No-one can be sitting at the key 24/7 but as long as those who beacon
also have a go at trying to work people when thay can manage it I see
nothing wrong with it.

As for people calling CQ and getting no reply, I've lost count of the
times I've heard  stations calling CQ during the day - at often
900km+ distances, and yet they have totally failed to hear my replies.

Just my 2d worth.

I should be available from 11pm BST. Dust off the key! See you on the
band.

John GM4SLV
IP90gg,
Clousta, Shetland



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Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole=20=
Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radco=
m onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical=20=
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I had good QRSS3 copy of DI2AM tonight on 505.182 kHz at 0207 UTC.

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Jean-Pierre,

     WD2XGJ is back on 137.7798. Report received from Laurence mobile in the U.K.

I can put a signal on 187 kHz with my other LF license WE2XEB if that would be helpful to your experiments.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 



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At 14.50 25/10/2007, Oliver wrote:

>...
>- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
>project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you at
>10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
>- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since they

I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical content.
I'm preparing my first article to be sent to RadCom. It will be on a comparison
between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in particular, plus some comments
on the difficulties of specifying and testing SDR designs).
It took me about 30 hours to do the measurement work, get the data, 
think about it,
review the data, write the article, sending to a few friends for 
review, correcting it,
adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construction article, 
only a test
on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that the SDR is a whole new world
for ham radio, so I did the effort. Some enthusiasm is needed, HI.

73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF



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And dont forget the latest version of the J pole for working
those repeaters

HAR

Bob K3DJC

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:56:37 -0700 "Steve McDonald" <jsm@gulfislands.com>
writes:
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> >QST has become a umm Fluffy rag
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> ...you mean that your getting tired of the "How To Build a Dipole" 
> and the
> "You Too Can Have a Shack-On-Your-Back" article every month??
> 
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> Steve / VE7SL
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Hello LF,

After much delay I've finally got round to updating my grabber so that 
it is actually contained in a page that automatically refreshes itself. 
Now you no longer need to hit "reload" every 5 minutes to get a new pic!

The URL is

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm

I'll set the refresh period to 5 minutes, to tie in with the period of 
the grabs themselves.

Let me know if it does/doesn't work for you all.

Cheers,

John GMSLV



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Again, very beautiful early signals from UK on 500.

16.43z G3KEV calling X-band CQ on 502.5kHz at S0.5 over noise, a perfect eas=
y
copy. QSX announced for 3533 and 7033kHz. Sadly it is not possible for me to
reply on either QRG as my only wire-antenna span is in use for RX on 500.

73's

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Hello,
very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get
access?
=20
many thanks
vy73
Marco
DD7PC

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Subject: Re: 500 LF: RADCOM


Thank you Andy.
=20
I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat
reduced recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current
edition and found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for
the wake up call.
There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when
technical articles were backed up and you had to wait months for
something to appear. I wonder if that is still the case but that they
are just not being published?
Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an
individual and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone
wishing to give 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.

1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering
but without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several
weeks and a binocular microscope to build it.
2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key
components for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
=20
This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG
and Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
comercial equipment exists.
Of course, something working against this process at present is that
500kHz is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to
March 2008.
Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
definable?
Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
=20
Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
03/08.
=20
So many things to do, so little time.
=20
73
=20
David  G0MRF
=20
In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:

    How about writing a few letters to the editor about the
appalling
    tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
   =20
    Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the
comic
    is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB
Mafia,
    sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the
magazine
    were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
    Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
   =20
    Andy  G4JNT
   =20

=20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D164372414-25102007>very stupid que=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D164372414-25102007>Marco</SPAN></D=
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>G0MRF@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 October 2007 16:03<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 500 LF:=20
RADCOM<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you Andy.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduc=
ed=20
recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and fo=
und=20
not a single constructional article.&nbsp; Thank you for the wake up call.</=
DIV>
<DIV>There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when techn=
ical=20
articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to appear.=20=
I=20
wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being=20
published?</DIV>
<DIV>Re 500kHz.&nbsp; Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an=20
individual and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing t=
o=20
give 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st&nbsp;engineer=
ing=20
but without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks=20=
and=20
a binocular microscope to build it.</DIV>
<DIV>2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key compone=
nts=20
for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WD=
G=20
and Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no=20
comercial equipment exists.</DIV>
<DIV>Of course, something working against this process at present is that 50=
0kHz=20
is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.</DI=
V>
<DIV>Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be=20
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.</DIV>
<DIV>Standalone CW TX ?&nbsp;&nbsp; Transmit converter from HF?&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Something software definable?</DIV>
<DIV>Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyon=
d=20
03/08.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>So many things to do, so little time.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,=20
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT    style=3D"=
BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial>How about writing a few=20
  letters to the editor about the appalling<BR>tabloid route the Radcomic is=
=20
  taking?<BR><BR>Giles (editor)&nbsp; himself is a bit concerned about the r=
oute=20
  the comic<BR>is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RS=
GB=20
  Mafia,<BR>sorry the Board.&nbsp;&nbsp; The two job titles that used to run=
 the=20
  magazine<BR>were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"&nbsp; &nbsp; now&nbsp;&nb=
sp;=20
  they are "Managing<BR>Editor" and&nbsp; "Features Editor" .&nbsp; That sez=
 it=20
  all!<BR><BR>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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Many replies, mostly private to my recent comments, too numerous for
individual comments.
Opinions are diverse but useful to judge 500 khz thinking. This informaton
could be useful to Ofcom for 500 khz forward planning.
Keep your comments coming in.

G3KEV



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~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.

73
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Try searching under "envelope elimination restoration" or "Kahn modulation
transmitter" - should get you several hundred thousand hits, but I haven't
yet found a good general reference. I think a large proportion of modern big
broadcast TXs use this technique to get high efficiency, and there is much
current intrest for on-chip PAs in personal wireless digi-widgets of various
kinds, but there is relatively little amateur-type material about this type
of technique - amateurs generally seem to have rather fallen behind the
times in TX hardware.

There is a lot made of the intricacies of getting good linearity in this
type of system, but with quite low carrier frequencies, and narrow
modulation bandwidths, most of the difficulties are greatly reduced. I used
a similar but bigger system on 136k a few years ago to get 1.2kW of PSK31
and "Wolf" BPSK - the 500kHz rig is intended to be a test-bed for a more
versatile version.

DF6NM's chirped-hell mode has both amplitude and phase modulation, so it is
definitely a "linear" mode. As in Hartmut's screen shot (thanks, Hartmut !),
it produces intelligible characters directly on the spectrogram screen. As
such, it isn't really a keyboard to keyboard mode - operating is similar to
QRSS, at similar "slow" speed. But the EER rig should work with pretty much
any digital mode - so far I have only tried it with PSK31 because that's
what is on my PC at the moment. I was wondering what modes people were
trying / thinking of trying, so that I could get hold of the neccessary
software and figure out how to work it!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> ? Is this a keyboard-keyboard mode ? is it linea or 'fsk'
>
> EER Transverter , not seeing anything on google, is there a link for it ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>



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Graham, LF,

I got your sigs down to noise level by using my 4 M vertical & attenuator, I
could only barely hear the tones & print was still 100%.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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> Ok Gary,
>
> Thats the full 'tape ... can you reduce the rx signal, see when it stops 
> printing ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..



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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:24:01 +0300
phl@netikka.fi wrote:

> 19.13UTC: Just received G3XIZ at S0.5 over noise replying to M0FMT on
> 502.5kHz.
> 
> No copy of M0FMT
> 
> Just before this GM4SLV at S1 over noise was calling CQ on the QRG.
> 
> 
> Keep up the good signals over there in UK!


Hi Paul-Henrik,

Yes I hear Chris G3XIZ Q3 in QRN noise. No trace of M0FMT here either -
audibly or visually!

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John GM4SLV


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It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
etc, it is not necessry.
73 G3KEV




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Late report - Graham - It was also good audible copy here on the Derbyshire/=
Nottinghamshire border. Very musical
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Laurence G4DMA mobile> > > > Gary.> > > > > Here you are Graham and the LF g=
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elow the noise.> > > > -- > John GM4SLV> IP90gg> Clousta, Shetland> >=20
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John,
Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, when
located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will be
fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
or less.
I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me in
the past.

MalG3KEV


----- Original Message -----
From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: LF: Re: loran


Thank you everyone for your observations.

Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in
particular to 87-90kHz):

"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations
suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would
increase by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the
same amount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about
5dB.

How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the
strength of other LORAN transmission."

Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:

>Dear Gary, LF,
>
>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>
>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Hi Mal, LF,
>
>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>ones.
>
>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>in
>noise.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>Subject: LF: loran
>
>
>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>500
>> etc, it is not necessry.
>> 73 G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>








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Hello OM's

i send you a big >Thank you<  from Arnim DL1EIE for the incoming reports!
He will improve  the transmitter and antenna system for more tests in 
future, but i think  for "first qrss" tests  it is ok :)

many thanks,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


Karl-Heinz Gansel schrieb:
> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to 
> the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hello LFers and Lowfers,

I have a screenshot of the "Stations by Freq" listing that is on the
500 kHz. website which was taken some months ago.  It is very
different from the one found today, in that the increments are of
0.25 Hz. step rather than 1 Hz.  To further complicate things, it
mentions just below the current listing that the steps are in 0.25
Hz. increments.  My question is, "Which one is correct?"

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Johan H. Bodin a =E9crit :
> <
<snip>
> The swedish ham magazine QTC seems to be following the same trend.=20
> Technical articles are beeing replaced by mega-multi-button=20
> advertisments and quantity seems to go before quality... Some ad's=20
> disguised as "reviews"=20
<snip>

Hi all

As a member of the team checking the quality of any article submitted to=20
our french Radio-REF journal before publishing, may I tell you that the=20
situation is the same in France ?
Our team is trying to avoid any publication of  mega-multi-button=20
advertisments disguised as "review", but it happens that such bullshit=20
is published from time to time, because the Editor has to (for financial=20
reasons, or only to have something to publish, or both ?)
The real issue is that we, as a national ham association, don't receive=20
any serious technical stuff anymore.
The remaining very rare really technical articles are published nowadays=20
in commercial revues (where the authors are paid for that, which is not=20
the case for our non benefit journal), or in "high tech" journals  such=20
as QEX, VHF Comms, DUBUS, etc
Volonteers belong more and more to endangered species ...

Jean-Louis F6AGR
REF-Union member for more than  40 years
Grandson of REF-416 (He joined REF in 1925)




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Chris, LF,

RTTY signal appeared and this time I got:-


LX3XIZ G3XITLUZ K


Must be you Chris!

Perhaps longer calls might help people get a fix on you?

CHeers,

John


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Hello LF,

Hearing G3VTT calling CQ, RST539 on a nice quiet band. 

Unfortunately I can't reply, as my TX antenna is in a state of
disrepair, as of yesterday morning. Until I can get enough time, in
calm conditions and daylight, to fix it I'll be RX only!

Still, nice signal Colin.

Cheers,


-- 
John GM4SLV
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Clousta, Shetland



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Hi Gus
Sorry, see my second message
http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

Gus wrote:

> Privet Dmitrij!
>
> Po ukazannomu linku neimeetsja nikakoi grabber.... toljko strannostji 
> i reklama s jandeksa...
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry" <ra3yo@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:31 PM
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>
>
>> Hi LF
>>
>> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
>>
>> http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html
>>
>> Dmitry
>> RA3YO
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hi Graham!

not sure about your signal.

I copy carrier with data on the 503.250

looked into my spectran in qrss3.

Look here:

http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/503.25/503.25.jpg

Roman



16.10.07, 02:53, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):



> Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,

> I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest 

> version

> Thanks for the reports,

> Graham ..

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:32 PM

> Subject: Re: LF: MODE CHANGE -- AMTOR-FEC 85 HZ SHIFT .. 503.3 CENTER

> > On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100

> > "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Multpsk

> >>

> >> Amtor set -

> >> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx

> >> mode

> >>

> >> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170

> >> - 200-

> >>

> >> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center

> >> over data stream

> >

> >

> > I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz

> > shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz

> > option...it isn't there!

> >

> >

> > I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day

> > for you. I must QRT now for bed!

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > John

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- 

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 

> > 10/15/2007 06:48

> >

> > 



--

73!

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Joe,

I'd make the frequency as a little higher than that, about 187.37043, 
according to the attached shot from this morning.

John A.

Joe Craig wrote:
> After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
> oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
> AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 = 187.3702(8625) kHz.
> The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.

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Virgin AM has a local transmitter at Fareham. Its only 1kw, but it puts 
in a very strong signal around the area. Have monitored it using a 
remote receiver at Gosport.

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Andy,

   I would like to try JT-2 again on 500kHz . I think my first failure may be due to failing to synchronize the PC clocks.
Basic question as I'm unfamiliar with the software:

I am assuming that the way you transmit is by filling in the text boxes in the lower right of the screen next to Tx1 - Tx6 - and then press the corresponding button tx1...tx6 ?

Joe K1JT is probably in receiving range of my 500kHz signal - do you have a contact e-mail for him?



--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> 
>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 



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Heard last night from the car
GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noise
G3KEV 30dB above
GI4DPE 5-25dB above
GI3PDN 5-10 above
G3VTT 5-10 above
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and Later on XGR/2 on around 0000z qrss10 with a full clean call.
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<BR>Heard last night from the car<BR>
GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noise<BR>
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GI3PDN 5-10 above<BR>
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Off topic, sorry...

   Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the interconnecting cable between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter 
and the accompanying PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar to the Centronics connector at the printer 
end of a parallel printer cable, only with a smaller number of pins (24 I think).

Thanks for any info

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Multpsk
> 
> Amtor set -
> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
> mode
> 
> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
> - 200-
> 
> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
> over data stream


I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
option...it isn't there!


I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
for you. I must QRT now for bed!

Cheers,

John


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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Ken Wright wrote:

> Hello all LF's
> 
>  
> 
> Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
> this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.
> 

Congratulations Ken and welcome aboard!

Yes the end date is 29th Feb for us all, unless (fingers, toes and 
everything else crossed) we can get an extension (and power increase?).

You've got on just at the right time, with autumn/winter conditions 
starting, the nights drawing in and the window of suitable propagation 
increasing day by day.

What are you thinking of using as TX, RX and antenna? Modes? 

Have you heard any signals yet on the band? You're in Luton so there 
should be plenty of local signals for you to hear/work. I'm a bit ore 
remote - up in Shetland! - so have to struggle to hear/be heard.

Best of luck
Please feel free to ask as many questions as you want, it's a steep 
learning curve down on 500, but great fun if you like getting your hands 
dirty and your soldering iron hot!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland, IP90gg

- webpages (new) showing my ramshackle setup at 
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm



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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:16:26 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> was it showing at birmingham ? or shetland ?

Some RTTY was visible and audible here, both last night and this
evening. Didn't manage to get it decoded.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
Shetland


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Thank you for that Dave,

Changing mode to  amtor  - fec  85 hz shift , 503.3 center freq

Tnx

Graham ..

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Just got a bit more....
>
> " G0nbd g0nbd  q1l  g0nbd@hotmaitAom cqcqcq test g0nds?@ "
>
> Dave G3WCB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
> Sent: 15 October 2007 22:59
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> Subject: [500] Re: Olivia data test
>
>
> Well,
>
> I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
> large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that 
> may
> be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during 
> QSB
> peaks.
>
> " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 15 October 2007 22:37
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>
>
> Thanks for that John,
>
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of 
> the
> 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
> period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on 
> this
> band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 




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Yes, his post address.

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> info  is on qrz.com ?
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:39 PM
> Subject: LF: Just received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ on 502.0kHz
>
>
> LF Hello!
>
> Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z
>
> Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500k=
Hz
> operator list I have.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> KP03SD
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Hello YLs and OMs,

due to maintenance and repair work DI2BO on 505,015 kHz will be off until
beginning of November 2007.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO




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In southern Germany, eastern Bavaria, at JN68GN, GI3PDN became audible
at 21.55 UTC on 501,5 kHz. Not found again after 23.00 UTC. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 

"Karl-Heinz Gansel" <softrock@dl6ebs.de> schrieb:
> Hello all,
> 
> i heard gi3pdn  20:05 - 20:10 UTC  on 502khz.  He is audible and has 
> some qsb.
> 
> LOC:  JO31HS
> RX: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
> Ant:  14m high MiniWHIP with OP27
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> 73 Karl-Heinz
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Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB
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-REPOTS WELCOM
THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON
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RYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYDLHYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRSRSRYRYYRYRYRYRYRY X
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Using MMTY 1.65D, ICOM 706 MKII and 9 metre vertical.

Signal level about S4

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Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB<br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>-REPOTS WELCOM<br>THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON<br>&nbsp;THE LA
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<br>Using MMTY 1.65D, ICOM 706 MKII and 9 metre vertical.<br><br>Signal level about S4<br><br>Chris<br>G3XVL<br><br>

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Stopped listening ! nothing here .

73 f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello Ed ,
> i listening in 137.7~
> 73 qro J-P f1afj
>
> dl2hre a =E9crit :
>> Ga LF.
>> =20
>> testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
>> most welcome.
>> =20
>> Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
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....and certainly the new rev of software for the SDR IQ 2.31 is a big impro=
vement - I love the NCo carrier null which was my biggest issue beyond IM/XM=
. Now if they can only automate the carrier null into software so I dont hav=
e to push the button and improve the temp freq compensation it would make me=
 really broadly smile, and turn off the AGC on SSB....
=20
....the R75 still is the winner but its getting closer when you consider the=
 pros and cons of being frogmarched and interrogated by N unnamed agencies (=
again) at some unnamed international airport, versus carrying a small pc boa=
rd wiv an USB port and a BNC plug on it..
=20
Its a long story.
=20
:-)
=20
Laurence 9V1LF
=20
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> I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical conten=
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parison> between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in particular, plus some=20=
comments> on the difficulties of specifying and testing SDR designs).> It to=
ok me about 30 hours to do the measurement work, get the data, > think about=
 it,> review the data, write the article, sending to a few friends for > rev=
iew, correcting it,> adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construc=
tion article, > only a test> on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that t=
he SDR is a whole new world> for ham radio, so I did the effort. Some enthus=
iasm is needed, HI.> > 73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF> >=20
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....and certainly the new rev of software for the SDR IQ 2.31 is a big impro=
vement - I love the NCo carrier null which was my biggest issue beyond IM/XM=
. Now if they can only automate the carrier null into software so I dont hav=
e to push the button and improve the temp freq compensation it would make me=
 really broadly smile, and turn off the AGC on SSB....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
....the R75 still is the winner but its getting closer when you consider the=
 pros and cons of being&nbsp;frogmarched and interrogated by N unnamed agenc=
ies&nbsp;(again) at some unnamed international airport, versus carrying&nbsp=
;a small pc board wiv an USB port and a BNC plug on it..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Its a long story.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
:-)<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1LF<BR><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
snip <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; I agree... it's not so easy to write articles with a good technical con=
tent.<BR>&gt; I'm preparing my first article to be sent to RadCom. It will b=
e on a comparison<BR>&gt; between SDR receivers (SDR-IQ and Perseus in parti=
cular, plus some comments<BR>&gt; on the difficulties of specifying and test=
ing SDR designs).<BR>&gt; It took me about 30 hours to do the measurement wo=
rk, get the data, <BR>&gt; think about it,<BR>&gt; review the data, write th=
e article, sending to a few friends for <BR>&gt; review, correcting it,<BR>&=
gt; adding some picture and so on. And it is not a construction article, <BR=
>&gt; only a test<BR>&gt; on existing HW and SW. But I'm convinced that the=20=
SDR is a whole new world<BR>&gt; for ham radio, so I did the effort. Some en=
thusiasm is needed, HI.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF<BR>&gt; <=
BR>&gt; <BR><BR><br /><hr />Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at=20=
the Messenger Caf=E9. <a href=3D'http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_swee=
tstuff2.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline' target=3D'_new'>Stop by today!</=
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Copied 2 "N"s last night. Faint traces were visible until 05:00.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm


73
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Hallo Piotr!
You are welcome on LF reflector!=20
Be successful with building your LF RIG and have a lot of nice hours on
LF and MW interesting bands.

Lubos, OK2BVG

*************************************************************


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Piotr M=B3ynarski
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Subject: LF: 137 KHz my first post=20

Hello  Gentlemen,
this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am=20
finishing ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz=20
already, i have built from the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing

peripherial hardware  for the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
 and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a=20
successful qso with some  of you  some day
very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming =20
weeks...

=20

73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs


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On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.

Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at 
the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been 
at rock bottom for weeks on end?

Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A 
index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is 
currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.

But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening 
all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys 
playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in 
the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.

What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do 
with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to 
produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art 
(and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).

By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night 
but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far. 
Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep 
QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray 
at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting 
500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).

Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band 
configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if 
we still have NOVs.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hallo Alberto!
>=20
> Thanks for your report of beacon OK0EMW. I am glad to receive your=20
> e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SDR receiver:
>=20
> Selective preamplifier with two tubes (+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise=20
> -110dB) >>>SDRadio home made >>>PC with two sound cards and software=20
> WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have got an other receivers for low bands as well,=20
> but this configuration is doing the very well. I have tested some=20
> softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best for my experiments on 500kH=
z.

  Hello Lubos,

    congratulations for your SDR implementation ! Tubes are still alive, I s=
ee ! And thanks for the nice words about=20
Winrad. Version 1.30 will be ready in a month or so, and it will have a bett=
er support for Perseus.
>=20
> New SDR Perseus seems very interesting. Sorry, but I think that software=20
> for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other SDR, for example SDR-IQ. I=20
> will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.

No sorry. That software will work only with the Perseus hardware. But the SD=
R-IQ is a good receiver too, I have one.
>=20
> GL on 500kHz!  I am sure, you will produce as good softwares as WinRad=20
> is in the future.

Thanks, and good luck to you too with your beacon and experiments !
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>=20
73  Alberto  I2PHD


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I'm sorry Chris, I was a bit angry but I did not intend to upset anyone. 
Anyway, these ad's are driving me mad... Isn't it possible to at least 
put them all at the end of the magazine? ;-)

On the other hand, the technical contents in Radcom is still much better 
than in the swedish "QTC" which only has occasional technical articles 
and these are usually of the "how to make a wire dipole" class...

To Dave ZL3FJ: Radcom arrived here in SM Friday last week. You may be a 
victim of high-tech export restrictions! ;-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


Chris Trayner skrev:
> Dear Johan,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email.
> 
>> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
> orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...
> 
> Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.
> 
> Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the advertisers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless it paid for the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.
> 
> I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive without the ads.
> 
> 
>> Some ad's 
> disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive 
> comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic 
> gadget..".
> 
> This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they don't want to alienate their advertisers.
> 
> I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent. Others are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets, which said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread. Having read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many faults which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of uncritical review loses respect for the magazine.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Chris Trayner G4OKW
> 


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Hi Frank!

>Hi LF,

>I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.

>If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.

>Frank.



RN3AGC in Moscow was copy artifacts of your signal!

Look shot.

He said if you use a QRSS60/120 we are copy well your station in Moscow.

I did't copy you this moment.





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Many thanks Brian,

It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!

73 Chris XIZ

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Many thanks Brian,<br><br>It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!<br><br>73 Chris XIZ<br><br><b><i>brian hodgson &lt;g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div>Peter &amp; Chris - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>100 % copy of the RTTY ex G3XIZ here in Watford</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian - G3YKB</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div><br><br>&nbsp;</div><div>        </div><hr size="1">  Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. <a href="http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU">Try it now</a>.</blockquote><br><p>&#32;


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Hello Mal,
Just replied to your CQ  (approx 16.40 BST ) on 502.5  You obviously did not
hear me. 529 on peaks

73

Mike  GW4HXO.
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Many replies, mostly private to my recent comments, too numerous for
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Opinions are diverse but useful to judge 500 khz thinking. This informaton
could be useful to Ofcom for 500 khz forward planning.
Keep your comments coming in.

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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!


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73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 21:50=>03:30  WD2XGJ
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
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Hello all,

i heard gi3pdn  20:05 - 20:10 UTC  on 502khz.  He is audible and has 
some qsb.

LOC:  JO31HS
RX: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Ant:  14m high MiniWHIP with OP27

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.... FREQ    === 503 KHZ====

Slight miss , type , carrier running , 503 at moment ,


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> Hi All,
>
> If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
> 503.0 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00
>
> Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  2 Khz
>
> mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,
>
> Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
> indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...
>
> **** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham
>
> G0NBD
> IO83LK
>
>
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> 




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Copy GM4SLV, beacon , speaker copy , using the ft897d , with pre-amp off , 
ok its not the best lf/rx but i recon thats a good sig ,,

G .. 




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John, LF,

you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/

If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM 
(W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much 
about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in 
RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the 
legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder 
melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM

John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of 
> SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?



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Hi John and group,

It seems the drift is under control from the shot. The
freq. was scaled back and should be within 50 mHz of
c/1600.  Thank-you very much for the capture and the
frequency check, John.

73
Joe

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, John Andrews wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I'd make the frequency as a little higher than that, about 187.37043,
> according to the attached shot from this morning.
>
> John A.


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Hi Gary!



Now I copy G4OLI in qso WB3YNG on 18130 very well!

Are you use a 14 & 18 MHz?



My last email about 505.743 kHz is not actual.

I check in QRSS-3 this is a QRM localy.



73!

Roman



07.10.07, 22:45, Gary - G4WGT (g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk):



> Hi All at LF,

> Running RTTY beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz approx centre frequency.

> ERP - 100 mW

> 85 Hz shift

> 45 Baud

> The transmission will not be continuous as I have placed a 1 minute Rx bre=
ak=20

> in the sequence.

> Reports welcome.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp=20



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
WD2XGJ       (good moment : 04:00 => 05:00)

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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I should perhaps have mentioned this happened in Vaasa, Finland, KP03SD


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ



Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> LF
>
> Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise a=
nd
> GW4HXO a Q3. Now G3KEV is CQ:ing away on 502.5kHz, still at S2 over noise.=
 No
> key to grab here...
>
>
>




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Hi Andy,


> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?


Just had a short look at www.emwg.info and found the following info:

G - Virgin 1215, various (0.004-200) - 24h; txs in Dartford Tunnel (0.004), Hull (0.320), Fareham (1), Lanner (Redruth) (2), Plymouth (1.1), Postwick (1.2), Wrekenton (2.2), Redmoss (2.3), Lisnagarvey (16), Washford (100), Westerglen (100), Brookmans Park (125), Droitwich (105) and Moorside Edge (200 kW)

So there's plenty of tx locations around.



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that looks close

QTH locator : JO02KU , type  that into  the qra locator link at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/usefull-links-kinks

the post  code may not be quite right as google map could not find it , but 
but nr21 area is given as 'fakenham'  (you could not make it up !) , which 
looks a ideal location for 500 ! ,

G ..




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Yes, his post address.

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

> info  is on qrz.com ?
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:39 PM
> Subject: LF: Just received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ on 502.0kHz
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>
> LF Hello!
>
> Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z
>
> Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 
> 500kHz
> operator list I have.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> KP03SD
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Zitat von hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> Dear all,
>
> after reading this below about the improving autumn winter conditions I
> also decided to give it a try, and around midnight UTC 3rd to 4th of
> October 2007 I received the GI4DPE beacon on
> (about) 501,4 kHz audible up to 449 in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria, Germany.
>
>

Hello Hajo and all,
here in jo43sv GI4DPE was 579 at 2120UTC.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be



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Hi Joe ,
I listening tonight
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>
> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  sta=
rt
>> beaconing ?
>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kH=
z 1
>> MW,
>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>
>>
>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>
>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe VO1NA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
> 
> Gary.
> 

It's decoding too - I'll send the text when I've got some more decoded.


-- 
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Chris, LF

Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not
making it down in daylight.

Roll on winter...

John GM4SLV


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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> I thought your figures looked a bit odd, and intuitively Tom should 
> be further. I put the figures into G0GJV's Minos VHF logger:

Thanks Dave!

I initially assumed myself that no-one would be further than Tom and 
checked my log-book entry. I had IO80IU correctly noted, along with 
"1039km". Not sure where I got the 1039km from now!

Checking with QRB/QTE gives me 1052.774km / 654.176 miles

Checking Peter G3LDO's estimated IO90ST gives  1052.976 / 654.289 miles

Peter's still best DX, by 200m!

Cross checking with "WinGrid" gives Tom IO80IU = 655.3 miles and Peter's 
IO90ST = 655.5 miles. (WinGrid is American and only speaks 'miles').

Looks like there are some differences in the maths between the 3 progs 
we've used. 

Don't know what I used initially to work out Tom's 1039km...but it was 
evidently wrong! Must have been my slide rule?!

> 
> GM4SLV    IP90GG
> to:
> G3OLB      IO80IU    1054km   187deg
> G3LDO      IO90ST   1054km   176deg
> 
> and for reference:
> G3YMC     IO91PJ   988km     177deg


Regards and thanks.

John
GM4SLV



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Hi All at LF,

Running RTTY beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz approx centre frequency.

ERP - 100 mW
85 Hz shift
45 Baud

The transmission will not be continuous as I have placed a 1 minute Rx break 
in the sequence.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Apologies to the group.  This was intended for J-P.
Joe

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Joe Craig wrote:

> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thank-you for sending the synthesiser.  I will be
> happy when it arrives.  The photos and instructions
> have been received, but I am not sure how to code
> it. For example, in the XLS file is: Divide by: 9678/
> Frequency 187.374/  VCO 5995.956. How do we program
> the divide by 9678?
>
> Hopefully you will see the signals in the near future.
>
> Merci beaucoup.
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
> > Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> > Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> > it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> > sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> > so that I can bring it into service.
> > The captures of night are at :
> > http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> > 73 J-P f1afj
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
has been improved by the latest changes and this should
improve your chances of reception.

Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
Joe

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> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
> The captures of night are at :
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> 73 J-P f1afj
>

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tnx for listening on my signal Jean-Pierre. may be the direction is not good=
=20
for your QTH, or bad time. Ruda OK1DTN was cpy my signal, but smal distance.

73 GL Ed
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Stopped listening ! nothing here .

73 f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Hello Ed ,
> i listening in 137.7~
> 73 qro J-P f1afj
>
> dl2hre a =E9crit :
>> Ga LF.
>>  testing just new transmitingloop on 137.697KHz in dfcw3-mode. reports=20
>> most welcome.
>>  Ed DL2HRE JO51TQ
>

--=20
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LF,

I should have wrote :-

all the other traces are NOT normally there.

Gary - G4WGT

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Mal, LF,
>
> You wrote earlier today :-
>
>> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after
>> dark.
>
> I ran SpecLab as usual & I an receiving lots of lines/signals which are
> never there. In the lower part of the band I usually only see a line just
> over 501.900 KHz (that is the very strong line in the capture) all the 
> other
> traces are normally there.
>
> I can't tell if it is conditions or something local.
>
> Any comments welcome please.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:35 PM
> Subject: LF: 160 mf
>
>
>> Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
>> afternoon here in bright sunshine.
>> Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
>> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after
>> dark.
>> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
> 



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Oops! I forgot to past the link:

http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/setpage.pl?http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/dyndok.pl?lang=en&dok=2006601.htm

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Hi LF

Start graber: 
http//:ra3yo.narod.ru/br00000.jpg

Dmitry
RA3YO


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I dearly love subscribing to this list, absent the periodic "harrumps" 
from those insisting that most of us are well down the road to perdition.

Anyway, please allow a suggestion. I recall nothing in our regulations 
over here that amateur contacts must arise from a chance meeting of 
operators at the same time on the same frequency under conditions that 
would support a QSO. Assuming the same is true on the other other side 
of the pond, why not have some publicly-announced regular schedules 
between two or more stations, or even have a net one night a week? This 
should at least encourage listening or even on-air participation by 
others. Coordination could easily be handled on this mail list.

Were I an Ofcom official (perish the thought), I'd be much more 
impressed by a report on the 500 kHz NOV's next spring describing 
regular scheduled activity than by one claiming that the band always 
seemed dead. The former would give some hope that the band would be 
useful for emergency communications, a good argument for an amateur 
allocation.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:40:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at
> 503.000khz ????
> 
> ******************************
> 1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
> ******************************
> 


Thanks Gary for at least decoding some of it. I have seen and heard it
up here too but it never lasts long enough to see if I can decode it
myself.

Cheers,

John


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Ok John,

Thanks for looking, my tx wil be on for 20 minuts, than I go to my bed.

Frank.

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> Frank,
>
> I am seeing a keyed carrier on 136.3205 at 2315 UTC. I will keep watching.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG  FN42ch
>
>
> 



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Oliver,

It is not just radio.  Other enthusiast-based publications have the same pro=
blem getting suitable material.  I have noticed this with caving as well.  W=
e ended up with Speleonics for the general caver, the CREG Journal for those=
 with a technical bent and another specialist journal aimed at cave surveyor=
s.  The editor of the newsletter for my old radio club in the UK has the sam=
e problem every quarter.

Having been the editor for CREGJ, and still being on the editorial team, I a=
m well aware of the difficulties.  One approach we have used is to get a pro=
spective author to provide notes and sketches on what he or she has done and=
 then do a rewrite.  As Andy suggested, once you get into this area of journ=
alism it can be quite habit-forming.

One of our most successful contributors for several years was Jean-Jacques F=
auchez, F6IDE (SK) who was very good technically but was not at home with te=
chnical English.  He would draft things in French and my XYL and I would the=
n translate them into English.

The other thing that puts people off (and I have mentioned this in a respons=
e to something Mal wrote) is that they worry about the typographical aspects=
 and diagram standards.  Most journals I have dealt with will sort out the l=
ayout and typeface matters anyway and they will normally redraw your diagram=
s to their house style.  You therefore do not have to worry, as an author, a=
bout such things.

John F5VLF/G3PAI
Commissioning Editor, Cave Radio & Electronics Group Journal
British Cave Research Association

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/10/2007 at 14:28 Dr. Oliver Welp wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I don't read RADCOM, but in Germany, we basicly have the same problem. I
>would
>love to see more projects etc. in the ham radio magazines, but when
>talking to
>the publishers, there usually is one basic problem: nobody submits
>technical
>articles. (anyway, they have lots of non-technical articles on stock)
>
>I can only guess but these might be some of the reasons:
>
>- Hams who are good technicians often are no good writers or simply not
>interested in writing.
>- Writing a good article makes A LOT of work - you could easily do another
>project rather than write an article. (and your fellow hams might call you
>at
>10 p.m. or 6 a.m. if their kit is not working...)
>- People who'd consider submitting an article are to shy to do so - since
>they
>think they are excellent enough for doing so.
>
>You probably can ask every ham radio magazine and offer to submit a=20
>_technical_
>article, and they will love you for that. Might be the same in Germany
>than in
>UK.
>
>73, Oliver
>(DL9QJ, N3NSF)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Zitat von Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Mal, LF,
>>
>> You wrote :-
>>
>>> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and
>antenna
>>> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>>> Does anyone else have an opinion.
>>
>> Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be=20
>> submitting ideas & articles to the RadCom team.
>>
>> I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they=20
>> don't know the stuff is there how can they print it ??
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--=20
>[Dr. Oliver Welp
>welp@muenster.de]






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> 
> Just trying to get myself sorted out for this crossband stuff. 


Hello LF, Dave & Mike

A pile up! I was waiting to pounce on Mike G3YPE after Brian finished
and F6BWO nabbed the QRG!

I QSYd to 501.5 and 3530 and had a succesful x-band QSO - thanks Mike!

This x-band stuff is real radio! I use my K2 and a PA0RDT active
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transmit. Unfortunately there's lots of headphone plugging/unplugging
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Great fun.

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John



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Hello Mal ,
Here with 300km of =93LORAN-C of Lessay=94 +5 dB compared to the average!=20
but is this propagation or the increase in the power of Loran? I do not=20
know! see capture .
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

hamilton mal a =E9crit :
> It looks like the new Loran has started and the qrm is vy strong on 137 kh=
z.
> Has anyone else noticed this?
> Mal/G3KEV
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Dear Gary, Graham, LF Group

Thanks for the screen shots of the Chirped Hell sigs. The "speed" used
during the tests was intended to be viewed with the same spectrogram
settings as QRSS 3

I will be out this evening, but will try some more tests tomorrow. I have
PSK31 working on my shack PC at the moment, plus I have downloaded some RTTY
software which will hopefully be working by then. I'm open to suggestions as
to what sort of tests to do.

BTW Graham - for your preset pots, Farnell part number 452 610 looks like
the right thing.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Ok Joe , i listening tonight .
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
> oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
> AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 =3D 187.3702(8625) kHz.
> The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.
> Unfortunately the freq. counter can no longer be used to
> monitor drift!
>
> QRSS240 (+-) starting 1800 utc today until 20 Oct.
>
> Reports are always welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
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>
>
>
>  =20

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On 17 Oct 2007 16:15 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> last night your and Finbar's signals were not as clear as the night
> before, but I guess we will have to live with such variations until
> (hopefully) You will be allowed more ERP.
> 
> I will continue to observe the 500 kHz band, although not report every
> day. 
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 
> 


Thanks again Ha-Jo.

Conditions seemed quite good last night, several good QSOs were held.
Things are still very variable though. Perhaps with more ERP we will
be able to reach even more listeners, who may not have well optimized
antenna systems for this band.

Thanks again for the reports,

John 
GM4SLV
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:51:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!
> 
> or some of it.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 

It may be apocryphal, but there was a story around the BBC TX training
centre when I was there of someone very close to Droitwich who did just
that, and got caught. Can't quite be sure what his crime was, but the
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?

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 Jim,

> I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
> any reports welcome.

again nice copy here. Screenshot attached.

73
Hartmut
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Good T/A conditions on 500kHz are back. Copied WD2XSH/6 and WD2XSH/17
in QRSS3.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hi Vern, attachments are accepted on the LF Group reflector but need to be
limited to a total message size of around 32kB...maybe it was just too big.
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>
> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a
> small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come back...will
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> list only accept text messages and block any type of attachments.
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> Vern - VE1VDM
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Hi all
   
  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.   20:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-) 
   
  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "
   
  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....
   
  Pete FMT vy 73
  
Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi LF,

I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
????

******************************
1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
******************************

I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
know in there - M0FMT ???

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>
>> Its not Me !
>
> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>
> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>
> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 




       
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<div>Hi all</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.&nbsp; &nbsp;20:30 onwards not my transmission however but&nbsp;I was involved.</div>  <div>You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......&nbsp;&nbsp; :-) </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>"TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Pete FMT vy
 73</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi LF,<BR><BR>I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz <BR>????<BR><BR>******************************<BR>1+J ACT M0FMT M&amp;2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &amp;3XIZSRFVVM7<BR>******************************<BR><BR>I received this line amongst lots of garbage &amp; there is a call sign we all <BR>know in there - M0FMT ???<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Sergeant" <DAVE@DAVESERGEANT.COM><BR>To: <RSGB_LF_GROUP@BLACKSHEEP.ORG><BR>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM<BR>Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY<BR><BR><BR>&gt; On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Its not Me !<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last
 night when I got the rig<BR>&gt; tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the<BR>&gt; frequency first (tongue in cheek...).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't<BR>&gt; hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 73 Dave G3YMC<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; http://www.davesergeant.com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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On 25 Oct 2007 at 12:10, Michael Probert wrote:

> However, it seems a rather poor take up of the privileged opportunity
> to operate on this interesting band. Excellent transmitter designs by
> M0MBU and GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but have
> not, as Mal G3KEV has said,  found their way into RADCOM. Possibly
> Dave G3YXM could bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who
> select construction and design articles. It is of course, a niche
> interest as are many others in amateur radio but regrettably, one is
> drawn to the conclusion that some UK amateurs are a bit tardy when it
> comes to having to build equipment. Re the availability of components,
> this is not really a problem.  The big boys Farnell, Radiocomponents
> and Rapid will now deal direct and the small suppliers that come to
> mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous others.
> 

The new edition of the Radio Communications Handbook (as advertised 
in RadCom) has a few designs for 500kHz gear, including my own 
transmitter. This shows that the interest in promoting it is there, 
maybe a bit more emphasis can be given in RadCom itself. But we 
already have Dave G3YXM's column, maybe this can be reworked to give 
it a rather wider appeal (not criticising of course Dave, and I know 
you have very limited space, but some issues it does come across as a 
minority appeal subject).

November RadCom together with QST arrived in this afternoon's post, 
still waiting for my Sprat...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:17:37 +0200
uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
> 
> 
> >
> > There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> > beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> > conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> > than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
> >
> Hello John,
> p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an
> amateur- station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
> gl and thanks for the grabber.
> Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv
> 

Yes this is also true Uwe. I don't think everyone in the UK realizes
that the DI and OK beacon stations are just that - beacons only, not
for 2-way communications.

Keep up the good work Uwe. It's great to have some signals to hear when
activity levels are low. 

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Hello all,

Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN.
Then GW4HXO, with stronger signals, calling G3UNT.

As I see that xband QSO=B4s are taking place, I=B4ll try to prepare my anten=
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73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and=20
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Finally sorted ,

Dident find a  3386G  , ended up with a  skeliton version from 'rapid' ,=20
farnel have a counter charge of =A320 ....  rapid are now =A34-50  for order=
s=20
under =A320

Tnx for help.

Graham ..


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Subject: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2=20
... looking for !!!


> So far no good ,
>
> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,=20
> value 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5=20
> mm x 10 mm
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> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find=20
> any amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there=
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> range now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the=20
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> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
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> Tnx - Graham ..
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Hi Andy
I know JT2 and JT4 was a coming but from wich program
73 Ko, NL9222


Andy Talbot wrote:
> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
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> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> 
>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT











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Hello again Ken,

That sounds promising indeed. We're only 580 miles apart - easy DX!

What is your local noise level like. I'm finding that many stations in 
urban areas are greatly hampered by electronic hash which masks the weak 
CW signals we're restricted to.

I presume you intend to operate CW? There is a bit of RTTY/PSK31 and 
QRSS-3 on the band too.

I have a "grabber" running which gives a waterfall display of the band 
from 500 - 505.512kHz - enough for our allocation and the area occupied 
by the German, Swedish and Czech beacons. I wonder if you've heard or 
seen DI2AM at 505.2-ish? It is in QRSS-3 mode, with a real CW ident at 
regular intervals.

look at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg - 
manually refresh the page every 5 minutes ( I must get round to putting 
the grabber pic in a real page that automatically refreshes!)

 At present  there is a CW beacon on 501.316 kHz from Finbar GI4DPE, 
although in the daytime you might struggle to hear/see it. It's looking 
good on my grabber though.

I'm sure others nearby will be along to give you more help and to 
arrange skeds.


Our NoV end date is now only 5 months away, and it will be the best 5 
months propagation wise of the year. We need to get on and rattle those 
keys!

All the best,

John GM4SLV
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm




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Hello LF!

Copied G3XIZ and G3UNT Q3-Q5 in QSO on 502.0kHz 20071026 21.21z

G3UNT / JO01gg is new in my RX log. 1815km



73's

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Poor T/A conditions. No US stations copied.

A lot of activity from the UK. Copied G0MRF, G3KEV, G3VTT, G3XIZ,
GI3PDN, GI4DPE and GM4SLV.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:11:08 -0000
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:


> By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night 
> but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far. 
> Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep 
> QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray 
> at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting 
> 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).


Hello Dave & LF,


I have to concur that the Au probably wasn't helping things. Ray GI3PDN
was good but I suppose no better than he has been over the last week or
so. I worked G3UNT at last, after hearing him many times in full
daylight, which made me wonder about conditions. Along with 2 other new
ones I just wondered if this was a coincidence or connected with the
geomag conditions.

I didn't hear you calling, and was also watching the "full-band
waterfall" which is very handy for spotting the week ones calling off
frequency (eg if xtal controlled) - that's how I spotted 'LDO and 'PDN.

I went QRT immediately after working Ray. I figured 4 QSOs (3 of them
nes stations) was enough for one night!

Cheers,

John


-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise and
GW4HXO a Q3. Now G3KEV is CQ:ing away on 502.5kHz, still at S2 over noise. N=
o
key to grab here...


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Hello LF,

The range just keeps increasing!

Last evening I had the following cross-band QSOs:-

2115    DL2HRE  Ed, JO51TQ  Distance = 1249km
2126    F6CNI   Andy, JN19QB    Distance = 1283km

This morning I received a report from Ha-Jo DJ1ZB in JN68GN, distance =
1587km!


This band certainly throws up some surprises. I know Mal and others
have been working a lot more cross-band than me and I wonder if they'd
like to share the information of stations worked and distance achieved?

Regards,

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:

> Its not Me !

Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....

It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig 
tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the 
frequency first (tongue in cheek...).

By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't 
hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !
73 Laurie G3AQC

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Actually I would simply like to see a copy of Radcom !<br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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Hi LF,

Another good night in progress.

Just had QSO in CW with Chris G3XIZ and a first QSO at long last with
Colin G3VTT. Fantastic to hear so much CW on the band...now off for
G3KEV...



-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> 
> G3KEV
> 
> 
Hi Mal

I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
read, so little time!

Cheers,

John


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Hello all LF's

 

Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.

 

73

 

Ken Wright 

M0KHW    

 

Luton Bedfordshire   IO91TV


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Just received my NoV for 501 &#8211=
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this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.<o:p=
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Hello Paul,

I did see your posting a little late.
There is also a JRC NRD-91 in the shack here.
A good performer at LF, once you have engaged the BC-band reject.
On QRSS I do it the same as Wolfgang suggested.
This works also very nice on aural CW.
Glad to hear it works for you.

To cheer you all up: conditions are very good.
Just heard a Russian NDB, 5500 km away on 497 kHz.

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Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and listening. I listen at times=
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73 mal/g3kev

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  Heard last night from the car
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and list=
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Hi LF,

RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.

45 baud, 23 HZ shift.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Dear Johan,

Thanks once again for your contribution.
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Please don't apologise - you certainly didn't upset me :-)

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Joe,

    What time (UTC) do switch between cw and QRSS?

--
73 Warren K2ORS
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Joe Craig <jcraig@mun.ca>
> Hello Jean-Pierre,
> 
> Thank-you for the report.  It appears as if the stability of
> is satisfactory at the moment.  When the WX becomes cold, there
> could be drift from the heaters in the radio room so I will
> be working on an OCXO.
> 
> 73
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre Méré wrote:
> 
> > Hello Joe ,
> >
> > Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
> > I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
> > but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
> > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >
> > Joe Craig a écrit :
> > > ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> > > at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Joe VO1NA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Visitez mon site radioamateur à : http://jpmere.online.fr/
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Hello all,

 

 A few days ago a list of "Active" 500khz stations was posted on this
reflector. There were approx. 30 G or English stations, 2-GM's 2GI's and
2GW's. Whether there are many more who obtained NOV's I don't know.

However, it seems a rather poor take up of the privileged opportunity to
operate on this interesting band. Excellent transmitter designs by M0MBU and
GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but have not, as Mal
G3KEV has said,  found their way into RADCOM. Possibly Dave G3YXM could
bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who select construction
and design articles. It is of course, a niche interest as are many others in
amateur radio but regrettably, one is drawn to the conclusion that some UK
amateurs are a bit tardy when it comes to having to build equipment. Re the
availability of components, this is not really a problem.  The big boys
Farnell, Radiocomponents and Rapid will now deal direct and the small
suppliers that come to mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous
others.

 

I too, am also critical of the current trend in RADCOM as voiced by others
but it must be born in mind that without the representations by the RSGB we
would not have had the NOVs on 500.and that we are the only European country
with that privilege.

 

 I do fear that unless OFCOM make a decision soon at to the future of the
500khz allocation there will now be little incentive for people to go to the
trouble of building for this experimental band.

With apologies for the ramble

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

 

 


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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><s=
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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;A few days ago a list of &#=
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lish
stations, 2-GM&#8217;s 2GI&#8217;s and 2GW&#8217;s. Whether there are many m=
ore
who obtained NOV&#8217;s I don&#8217;t know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>However, it seems a rather poor t=
ake up of
the privileged opportunity to operate on this interesting band. Excellent tr=
ansmitter
designs by M0MBU and GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but
have not, as Mal G3KEV has said, &nbsp;found their way into RADCOM. Possibly
Dave G3YXM could bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who selec=
t
construction and design articles. It is of course, a niche interest as are m=
any
others in amateur radio but regrettably, one is drawn to the conclusion that
some <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></=
st1:country-region>
amateurs are a bit tardy when it comes to having to build equipment. Re the
availability of components, this is not really a problem.&nbsp; The big boys
Farnell, Radiocomponents and Rapid will now deal direct and the small suppli=
ers
that come to mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous others.<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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rrent
trend in RADCOM as voiced by others but it must be born in mind that without
the representations by the RSGB we would not have had the NOVs on 500.and th=
at
we are the only European country with that privilege.<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;I do fear that unless OFCOM=
 make a
decision soon at to the future of the 500khz allocation there will now be
little incentive for people to go to the trouble of building for this
experimental band.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><s=
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:51:31 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Fine, John,
> 
> That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a
> clear print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the
> band condx are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz
> shift , see how that prints .. that is a mode , you can send by
> simple fsk , ?
> 
> Graham ..
> 

Hi Graham, LF

Not sure I can decode that with gMFSK on Linux. I can take the grabber
offline and use the windows box/multipsk though?

John


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Ok, yes I see.

I'm afraid I need a different receiver to sort that tight inferno out. The A=
GC
off position of my NRD-91 RX does not completely turn off the AGC and the
result is too much blanking in the FFT-picture from the stronger stations.
Maybe I should try the FT-980 with a homebrew downconverter instead.

Thanks for the info Uwe!

73's

Paul-Henrik

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> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>
> > Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!
> >
> > I will correct this error as soon as possible.
> >
> > I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here
> > than before,
> > at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.
> >
> > How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to he=
ar
> or
> > see signals from them yet.
> >
>
> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> pse see
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> there they are visible.
>
> regards
> Uwe
>
>
>




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Haha, Joe is a fine chap, I'm sure he will be grinning.



----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test


>I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in 
>PHYSICS!!!!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hooton_Taylor,_Jr.
>
> (Boy am I sorry for asking him such dumb questions!!!)
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> Its a bit like having the first telephone ......
>>
>> G ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:58 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: LF: Re: Olivia data test
>>
>>
>> > If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your
>> > findings...
>> >
>> > Andy  G4JNT
>> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
>> > Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
>> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
>> > To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Andy,
>> >
>> > Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
>> > group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
>> > using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
>> > know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
>> >
>> >       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date:
>> > 10/24/2007 14:31
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 26/10/2007 08:50
>
> 


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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:26:03 +0200
Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hallo Finbar, John and ALL!
> I can see two signals from UK early morning. It was very interesting
> to study different time of QSB between them. Especially Finbar=C2=B4s
> signal was sometimes up to 25dB S/N strong and consecutively
> decreased to noise level.=20
> Thanks for beaconing, it is very useful! The same I have to say about
> your grabber, John! =20
> =20
> Lubos, OK2BVG =20


Thanks Lubos for another welcome report!

I placed my beacon transmission close to Finbar's so that they could
both be observed at the same time.=20

I have now stopped the tranmission so the grabber can be used again to
observe the band as seen at my QTH.

Best wishes=20

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland

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Jean Pierre and Hartmut,

Thank-you for monitoring the signals and the reports.
Hartmut noticed the drift on the signals again.
The drift could be seen here using a tcxo freq.
counter.

I will try to get this under control to improve
the chances of reception.  The TX is now off;
will announce when it is QRV again.

Thank-you once again
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nothing here .
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>
>

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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:52:49 +0100 "Andy Talbot"
<andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> writes:
> My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
> In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year 
> or so.
> 
> Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go 
> missing :-(
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
>


Hi Andy

are they copying the ARRL and QST. QST has become a umm Fluffy rag
and in order to get technical articles you have to subscribe to QEX
so Good Luck With That

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Hi Chris, John & LF,

Thank you for the reports on my narrow shift RTTY beacon, that is very 
encouraging along with the report from VE regarding Finbars beacon.

My beacon only running 60 mW ERP at the time.

For comparison the complete text is :-

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
09:24 - 10/10/2007
DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP - RTTY - 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BAUD - REPORTS WELCOME
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP - RTTY - 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BAUD - REPORTS WELCOME
RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

----- Original Message ----- 01 --------
Re: 500 KHz RTTY Beacon


 Gary, just heard you on RTTY here in Ipswich JO02NB
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -REPOTS WELCOM THE QUICK BROWNFOX JUMPS ON THE LA Y DOG DE G4WGT G4WGT - IO83QP -RTTY BA 23 HZ SHIFT - 45.5 BUD - REPORTS WELCOME RYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYDLHYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRSRSRYRYYRYRYRYRYRY X --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using MMTY 1.65D, ICOM 706 MKII and 9 metre vertical. Signal level about S4 Chris G3XVL----- Original Message ----- 02 --------Hi Gary & LF,Just on the way to bed but can RX some of the RTTY. Looks bright on thewaterfall. This decoded at 21:12UTCRYRYRYHRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRSYSRYRYRYRYRYRYRYYYRYRYRYRYRYZY21:122 WHPOXQVULDSRKWGT4/2&5 IO13QP - RTTY - 23? HW SHIFT - 45. AUD GA REPOTSWELCOMELTEIQSCKNBROWNNJ JUMVYEOMEY THE LAZY DOGDE GORP&5 GWX -HIOIEQPE RTY - 1( HZ SHFH - BRTMTAKD - REPOLL QZLCOMERYRYRHCYRYRYRYYRYYGYOYYRYRYYRYRYRYRHRYRYRZYRSCYRYRYRYRYSomething legible in there!Cheers,John GM4SLVClousta, Shetland IP90gg


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I just received a few transmissions from the "CW IS GOOD BEACON IS BAD" 
beacon on the TCP/IP band. Condx seems to be up but no surprise this 
time either. In fact, it is quite boring to listen to because it hasn't 
changed its beacon message since I first heard it 10 or so years ago...

Johan SM6LKM


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19.13UTC: Just received G3XIZ at S0.5 over noise replying to M0FMT on 502.5k=
Hz.

No copy of M0FMT

Just before this GM4SLV at S1 over noise was calling CQ on the QRG.


Keep up the good signals over there in UK!

73's


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ

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I thought your figures looked a bit odd, and intuitively Tom should 
be further. I put the figures into G0GJV's Minos VHF logger:

GM4SLV    IP90GG
to:
G3OLB      IO80IU    1054km   187deg
G3LDO      IO90ST   1054km   176deg

and for reference:
G3YMC     IO91PJ   988km     177deg

When I saw both Tom and Peter were exactly the same distance I double 
checked and it is indeed so. I guess you have the wrong locator for 
Tom?

73 Dave G3YMC

On 30 Oct 2007 at 10:08, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> Hello LF,
> 
> prompted by Alan Melia I've just done a bit of research into the
> distance worked last night in my QSO with Peter G3LDO. 
> 
> My geography of the south of England is poor... he told me his QTH was
> "nr Worthing" but I didn't think this would be so far away! Peter was
> unable to give an IARU locator last night but a quick visit to QRZ.COM
> and www.nearby.org.uk gives me a rought estimate of IO90ST
> 
> 
> QRB/QTE software gives the distance as 1052km / 644 miles
> 
> Previously my best DX was with Tom G3OLB at 1039km in August. This new
> QSO with Peter 'LDO pushes me about as far as I can go until someone
> in Cornwall appears on the band!
> 
> Anyone know of suitable GU/GJ stations they can persuade to tool up
> for 500?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com



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Ok Joe , i listening tonight !

73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thank-you again, Jean-Pierre.
> It seems the HP 5382A has a TCXO output that can be
> used to improve the carrier accuracy. Will try to use
> this soon.
>
> 73 to all
> Joe
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil also !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
>>> it has only 3 hours of listening there
>>> (stop of ?Europe 183kHz? for maintenance)
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>      =20
>>>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>>>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Joe
>>>>        =20
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#

DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" in
transmit frequency.

Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Karl-Heinz
Gansel
Sent: 19 October 2007 16:47
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Arnim Pomsel
Subject: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE 19.10.2007
16:00h UTC


Hello all,

OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to
the reflektor.

He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test.
Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC

technical Information:
TX:    X-tal exciter
Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader

His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
Please send him  receiving reports!

thank  you,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS







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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:03 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Fine John,
> 
> Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text
> and power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up
> and i cannot tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...
> 
> .... Tnx - Graham ..


Any advice on setting Multipsk for amtor-fec 85Hz?

John


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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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20:00 > 24:00  approx .

Running , test , AMTOR - FEC 85 HZ SHIT   ~  RTTY 45.45 . 85 HZ SHIFT

FREQ

503.15    RTTY
503    
502.85    FEC 

In use , MMTY , 'normal,  RTTY 
Multipsk ,  Amtor-fec 

Tx set ,  502, usb . , tone freq, cent 1000  Hz   + 150 , rtty , -150 Fec 

Tnx

Graham ..



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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:06:22 +0100
"Chris McCarthy" <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Good copy here Chris in Ipswich.
> 
> TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3X
> IZ G3XIZ
>    TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
>    QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLASWADE BEDS BEDS
>    LOK IO92UB IO92UB
>    INTERNET:  C.CJO AT BTIBTENET.COM
>    TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ AR
> 
> 
> Chris G3XVL
> JO02NB


Chris, Chris, LF,

that's a bit better than I got!

TEST TEST DE GQEKXCT G3SZ

but at least some of the letters were in the right places!

John GM4SLV


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Privet Dmitrij!

Po ukazannomu linku neimeetsja nikakoi grabber.... toljko strannostji i 
reklama s jandeksa...

73 de Gus SM6BHZ

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> Hi LF
>
> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
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> http://narod.yandex.ru/graber.html
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> Dmitry
> RA3YO
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>
> 





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In a message dated 18/10/2007 16:42:53 GMT Standard Time,  
hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com writes:

Thanks  for the signals chaps - 

73 Im outta here.
Laurence  reverting to 9V1LF 



Thanks for the interesting series of reports Laurence.
 
Safe Journey
 
David  G0MRF



   

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Thank you everyone for your observations. =20

Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in partic=
ular to 87-90kHz):

"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations=20=
suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would increa=
se by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the same a=
mount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about 5dB.

How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the streng=
th of other LORAN transmission."

Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:

>Dear Gary, LF,
>
>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>
>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Hi Mal, LF,
>
>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>ones.
>
>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>in
>noise.
>
>73
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>Subject: LF: loran
>
>
>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>500
>> etc, it is not necessry.
>> 73 G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>






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I've been watching this thread, and whilst nothing to do with RadCom would
suggest that the lack of technical articles on 500kHz is more likely to be a
dearth in people writing articles than a editorial decision not to publish
such material. =20

As RSGB HF Manager I would be more than happy to support technical articles
concerning 500kHz or indeed 136kHz.  Technical articles are peer reviewed
prior to publication and support from someone like myself may help ensure
that such articles don't take too long during this process (as has
unfortunately happened in the past).

Like most sentiment on this reflector, I am also one who would like to see
more technical content in RadCom!

73 John, G3WKL
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=20



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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for that John,
> 
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
> 
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
> effective on this band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
> system .
> 
> Tnx


Hi Graham and the LF group,

Yes I rather cheated by picking the best bit. It does get errors in the
QSB dips, I can kick the decoder away again and see if I can quantify
the period of good/bad copy.

I believe MFSK16 would be okay for non-linear amps, as it's a single
tone system.

Cheers,

Joh


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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:24 +0000
Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest
> to some of you 500khz folks.

Hi Vernon. LF,

This is fantastic news and might be a great source of encouragement to
the 500kHz experimenters here in the UK.

> GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.
> Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish
> DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.
>

I'm really amazed at this report. I know Finbar, from participating in
the 500kHz experiment and I'm sure he'll be very glad of the report.

> Receiver - R75
> Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire
> N/S Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center
> Software - Spectran / Argo

You forgot to list "Golden Ears"


> I will keep watching for others as conditions improve


Thanks Vernon! I certainly would love to hear a report from you. My
path might be a bit more difficult than Finbar's as I'm bit furhter
north, but I'm willing to give it a go!

Well done both stations.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland
IP90gg


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Hi Roman,

Thanks for the report, I am nou with more power and QRSS 60.

73! 
Frank. 


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> Hi Frank!
> 
>>Hi LF,
> 
>>I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.
> 
>>If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.
> 
>>Frank.
> 
> 
> 
> RN3AGC in Moscow was copy artifacts of your signal!
> 
> Look shot.
> 
> He said if you use a QRSS60/120 we are copy well your station in Moscow.
> 
> I did't copy you this moment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 73!
> 
> Roman, RW3ADB
> 
>


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Trayner" <C.Trayner@leeds.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: LF: RADCOM


Dear Johan,


Thank you for your email.

> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment
orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.

Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the
advertisers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless
it paid for the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.

I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive
without the ads.

Not true because without the adverts there would only be 14 pages to print
and the cost would be minimal, currently with the revenue from adverts
Radcom should be free.
Some one has already pointed out that Amateur radio is behind us, and has
very little future because of the internet, mobile phones and  pmr licence
free devices on 446 mhz. plus CB.
Except you were a radio amateur at least 50 years ago you would not be aware
of the drastic changes that have taken place over this period.
Amateur radio does not exist anymore it is all APPLIANCE operators now, the
majority could not mend a fuse, never mind change a plug on coax cable.
The exam criteria has taken such a dive, multiple choice and the answer is
in front of you.
I speak from experience having started building with valves/tubes and still
going strong with the lastest IC'S, Fets etc.
I do not suppose most will know  what I am talking about, today the black
box is returned to the source if a plug falls off. For 500 khz the majority
that might be intererested will never get started because they cannot solder
and never heard of CW.

de  G3KEV



> Some ad's
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic
gadget..".

This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will
print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they
don't want to alienate their advertisers.

I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent.
Others are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets,
which said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread.
Having read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many
faults which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of
uncritical review loses respect for the magazine.


73,
Chris Trayner G4OKW




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John,
 
 I get the feeling that the 4 pages of "how to fit a PL-259" are  probably 
most avidly read by the ops who need to know how much work their more  
knowledgable mate had to do in order to assess whether the price of a pint will  
suffice as gratitude for assistance in getting them on the air!
 
 
 
73 de Pat  G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe, UK




   

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Hi John,

There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.

IO91RM, e-mail ganymede444@btopenworld.com

Cheers, Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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> LF,
> 
> Hearing G3WCE ( fairly sure it's that) calling CQ on 502.5, RST439 in
> QRN
> 
> Despite many replies I haven't been able to raise him! This is a new
> call to me, anyone have any info/contact details? 
> 
> QRZ.com says he's in Norfolk, but no email address.
> 
> Nice to hear a new call at least!
> 
> John
> GM4SLV 
> Clousta, Shetland
> 
> 
>


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John, GM4SLV wrote:
> I had a question posed by a DL station about the legality of working us
> - since we're outside the normal "amateur service". My opinion is it's
> fine. I've asked John Gould for the official line but intend to
> continue with it as it helps my "research" to work and get reports from
> as many stations, as far away, as possible.
>
>
>   
We used to have X band QSOs on 73kHz without official problems.

My first contact like this was with F6CNI on 28/3/98 73kHz/80m. We also 
used to have X band contacts (136kHz/80m) with countries who had not 
received 136kHz approval at the time of the QSO.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO


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Hi Joe

What kind of authorization did you get from IC to do this?

Would be nice if we could do the same so please fill us in.

73 Scott
VE7TIL

Joe Craig wrote:
> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
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>   


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Static level still high but signal levels high ,too. The overnight
signal plot of the G0MRF beacon shows  a good signal level all night.
Copied the CW signal from G0MRF and GIDPE.

>From the US good signal level from WD2XSH/17 in CW on 507.75 kHZ. Good
periods between 00:37 and 02:18 UTC. Some good peaks of the QRSS3
signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz during the night. Best about
02:35-02:48.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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=20
Graham - the "music" was a good 539 here and little or no qsb at the time. Q=
TH is the Marriot hotel carpark, just a couple of hundred metres East of Jun=
ction 28 M1 on the Notts/Derbyshire border- elevation of antennae is err...w=
ell the baby bottle encompassing the 4 inch copper clad "array" and preamp i=
s strapped to a lower section of a  broken 2m magmount antennae that Martin=20=
Lynch donated last weekend and is some 15 inches above car roof level, so th=
e effective antenna height aint that much.=20
=20
The car park isnt that quiet being close to the hotel which is blessed with=20=
dimmers/apc's/variable freq air con drives and I also spy a crane across the=
 road which tends to be the highest noise source from 137-2Mhz from its besp=
oke variable frequency drives and "long antennae" - luckily for me as distin=
ct from Singapore the Brit workers knock off at 6pm so no 24 hours of churni=
ng noises which Im blessed with at home - I count over a hundred cranes on m=
y Singapore skyline and can "hear" cranes on 137Khz up to two miles away.
=20
 Ill be whizzing or more likely crawling back to London this afternoon and w=
ill run captures on the way down - then on a flight back "home" to Singapore=
 on Friday.
=20
My impression of LF and MF conditions were that they were a lot quieter last=
 night but to the detriment of long haul prop. I dont think Gus was on when=20=
I watched but the other beacons were down on average. No prop to here from P=
at /6 station on 505.266 which was my target for the night. Looking at my re=
mote receiver http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg I see a pretty average night  on=20=
the Singapore to DCF39 path - with a lot of deep fades and no long peaks - p=
eak levels down a few dBs from the previous night, but the station is experi=
encing a strong thunderstorm at the moment so things are a little choppy.
=20
Laurence G4DMA mobile
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.... Lol=20
=20
Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the locator square ? , altitu=
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s too well at Bham but allways gets  to  shetland !
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Graham - the "music" was a good 539 here and little or no qsb at the time. Q=
TH is the Marriot hotel carpark, just a couple of hundred metres East of Jun=
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. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The car park isnt that quiet being close to the hotel which is blessed with=20=
dimmers/apc's/variable freq air con drives and I also spy a crane across the=
 road which tends to be the highest noise source from 137-2Mhz from its besp=
oke variable frequency drives and "long antennae" - luckily for me as distin=
ct from Singapore the Brit workers knock off at 6pm so no 24 hours of churni=
ng noises which Im blessed with at home - I count over a hundred cranes on m=
y Singapore skyline and can "hear" cranes on 137Khz up to two miles away.<BR=
>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Ill be whizzing or more likely crawling back to London this afternoon=20=
and will run captures on the way down - then on a flight back "home" to Sing=
apore on Friday.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
My impression of LF and MF conditions were that they were a lot quieter last=
 night but to the detriment of long haul prop. I dont think Gus was on when=20=
I watched but the other beacons were down on average. No prop to here from P=
at /6 station on 505.266 which was my target for the night. Looking at my re=
mote receiver <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg">http://kl1x.com/captd=
dcf.jpg</A> I see a pretty average night&nbsp; on the Singapore to DCF39 pat=
h - with a lot of deep fades and no long peaks - peak levels down a few dBs=20=
from the previous night, but the station is experiencing a strong thundersto=
rm at the moment so things are a little choppy.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>Laurence G4DMA mobile<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>.... Lol </FONT></DIV>
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Thanks Mal - Im doing some revision of some of my previous filter designs so=
 dont want to plague anyone with a huge number of variables, thanks for the=20=
offer


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2007 17:08:10 +0000Subject: LF: Re: Chebyshev



Laurence.
You asked a question and you got a lot of advice about looking up web pages.=
 I do not know why someone did not give you the inductor/capicator values th=
at you require.
Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the required values.
de Mal/G3KEV
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Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses.. Laurence

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You asked a question and you got a lot of advice abo=
ut looking up web pages. I do not know why someone did not give you the indu=
ctor/capicator values that you require.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for&nbsp;all the=
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Hi Chris, LF,

Just seen your RTTY & recieved this :-

 RYRYRYRYRYYYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRS
L N RHCYRYRYCYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRURYRYRYRY
   TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G-//8+ &3XIZ
   TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZSG3XIZ
   QH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS
   LOC: IO92=7? 8992=7? 9892UBIIO92UB 
S  INTERNE:  C.CJT AT BTINTERNET.NOM
   TEST TEST TEST DE G+//8+ &09*82 &3XIZ

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Thanks for report Graham.

Continuing until about 2230 utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Grary,
> 
> Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..
> 
> G ..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> 
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
>>
>> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
>>
>> Reports welcome.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> 
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> 
> 
>


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Grary,

Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..

G ..






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> Hi LF,
>
> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
>
> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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> 




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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:12:41 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Rtty ... 502 khz  85  hz shift , 45 baud 
> 
> Any copy ? 
> 
> G .. 

Hi Graham..

I saw the RTTY on the grabber, put gMFSK into action and I RX'd this:=

QIAGOUXRZMPVYDQFJVKVXPRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYGYRY
QRYJYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYRYRYRRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
G0NBD G0NBD G0NB G0
BD G0 B G0NBD G0NB
 G0NBD G0PBE G0(,?$ GPNBD G0NBD
RYRYYRYRYRYRXRYRRYRYRYRYRYRSRYRYRYRZRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRY


That was as good as it got. I was out of the shack for most of the
evening, and have just scrolled back to find what was received. Not
sure of the time.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV 

Clousta, Shetland IP90gg


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On 2 Oct 2007 at 0:52, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> In the quiet moments between CQ calls and listening out for CQ calls
> (and other more mundane matters like work, life, family etc) I
> squeezed together a few photos and words about my 500kHz setup and
> dropped them onto a website.
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John GM4SLV

John

I have added a link to your site from mine:
http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/
Those new on here may find something of interest in my pages.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Good luck with the tests Lubos!

Here in Finland I have tried to improve my inverted-L antenna by adding radi=
als
with groundpoles at the ends and optimizing the tuner by using a small
variometer at almost 100% inductance used. At the moment I have 8 radials wi=
th
5 to 15 meter length + 2 groundpoles below the antenna feedpoint. With a bri=
dge
I measure about 30 ohms Rtot but the null is wide so can be +-5ohms or so. I
need more power from the signal generator to get better sensitivity around n=
ull
before I can say the accurate value. Anyway, much better than the 200 ohms i=
s
started improving from.

I have put my 500kHz log on the web: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.t=
xt

My homepage, not so much atm: http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/

73's and have a good listening weekend!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hallo OM=B4s!
> Beacon OK0EMW will be switched off from 5.10.2007 to 7.10.2007. I am
> going to receive on 500kHz away from the city, on portable about 5km
> fare of  nearest village. I am looking forward to good reception in the
> unpolluted nature. I hope the QRN will be low, my primary interest is
> testing some rx aerials baming to UK.
>
> 73 and GL on 500kHz!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>




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I have been doing well xband 500/3533/7033 so far with 11 countries worked
but reports are vy poor, average 429 at night time and no QSO'S daytime I
suppose of the QRP that I am permitted.
Others ought to join in and try their luck, I do know others are being hrd
but not QAP for a QSO.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Dmitry wrote:

> Hi LF
>
> All QSY up, but LF graber ON
>
sorry

http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html

>
>
> Dmitry
> RA3YO
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> .
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Its not Me !

I have seen the odd 'multi' trace round 503 on the bham plot, I thought it 
was local interferance , but it was quite a stable frequency and may be was 
just under 200 hz wide ....

looks like a candidate for 'things that go beep in the night' ..

Graham ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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Yes, it has been on a few times on 503kHz this evening. Good audible copy in
KP03SD.

Quoting brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi All -
>
>   Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY 
> on
> about 503 kHz.
>
>   Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id -
> anyone else copy it?
>
>   Brian (G3YKB)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>  For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this
> month.







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good cpy GI3PDN cqing on 501.5KHz 439, sri just no ant-setup for 80m. may be=
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73, 55 Ed DL2HRE in JO51TQ

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Subject: Re: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE  19.10.2007
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Hello Karl-Heinz,
pse see the NL9222 grabber.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx


Zitat von Karl-Heinz Gansel <softrock@dl6ebs.de>:

> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information 
> to the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS 
> test. Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 
> 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>
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Hi LF,

GI3PDN strong signal tonite, normal speed morse.

73

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Hi LF,

They have collided !!!!

Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's


> Hi LF,
>
> Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks like
> they are on collision course.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:12 PM
> Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong
>> and
>> audible using normal morse (CW).
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the report.  It appears as if the stability of
is satisfactory at the moment.  When the WX becomes cold, there
could be drift from the heaters in the radio room so I will
be working on an OCXO.

73
Joe

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> Hello Joe ,
>
> Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
> I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
> but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m wire
> > at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
> >
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> >
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Several tens of mV's  .... is that all !!!

I can run a speaker off my ae (coil and diode) , check out where radio 
merseyside is located .. :-(

G ..


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> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:
>
>> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
>> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
>> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
>> view the AM on a scope.
>>
>> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
>> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
>> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
>> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
>>
>> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>>
>>
>
>
> Hello Andy,
>
> I think you're near Southampton?
> Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power
> filler - HI!)
>
> Found this listing too
>
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf
>
> Any help?
>
> John GM4SLV
> Shetland
>
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Joe,

noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still 
not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the 
dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the 
dashes are in a straight line.
Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance 
+/- 0.05 Hz.

73
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Hi Pete=20

long time no see ....=20

Where is     'Luckily its not too bad here ' ???

assume the 'test g3xiz' is from g3xiz ..as gary decoded mofmt ?? . dont see=20=
a thing up here most  of the time , spectrum lab just looks like a bowl of o=
range jelly !=20

Graham ..



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter March=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


  Hi all

  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503.   2=
0:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really rend=
ers it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there is a l=
ocal station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its no=
t too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day=
, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a=
 good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-)=20

  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS BEDS=
 LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.COM DE G=
3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "

  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....

  Pete FMT vy 73

  Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
    Hi LF,

    I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000kh=
z=20
    ????

    ******************************
    1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
    ******************************

    I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we a=
ll=20
    know in there - M0FMT ???

    73

    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: "Dave Sergeant"=20
    To:=20
    Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


    > On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
    >
    >> Its not Me !
    >
    > Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
    >
    > It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
    > tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
    > frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
    >
    > By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
    > hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
    >
    > 73 Dave G3YMC
    >
    > http://www.davesergeant.com
    >
    >
    >=20







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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Pete </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>long time no see .... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Where is&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '<FONT   f=
ace=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Luckily its not too bad here '=20
???</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>assume the 'test g3xiz' is from g3xiz ..as=20=
gary=20
decoded mofmt ?? . dont see a thing up here most&nbsp; of the time , spectru=
m=20
lab just looks like a bowl of orange jelly ! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on=20
  503.&nbsp; &nbsp;20:30 onwards not my transmission however but&nbsp;I was=20
  involved.</DIV>
  <DIV>You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really=
=20
  renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there=20=
is a=20
  local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. Luckily its=
 not=20
  too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 501 the other day=
, I=20
  resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel Pentium4 PC with a g=
ood=20
  internet e-mail connection!!!!.......&nbsp;&nbsp; :-) </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>"TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS=
=20
  BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT BTINTERNET.CO=
M DE=20
  G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Pete FMT vy 73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DI=
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x; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi=20
    LF,<BR><BR>I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal a=
t=20
    503.000khz <BR>????<BR><BR>******************************<BR>1+J ACT M0F=
MT=20
    M&amp;2!.5 $3 1 (/8+=20
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s=20
    line amongst lots of garbage &amp; there is a call sign we all <BR>know=20=
in=20
    there - M0FMT ???<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT -=20
    IO83qp<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Serge=
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Hello LF,

I mentioned I had arranged a streaming audio feed from my "grabber 
receiver" in a previous email. I'm sitting at work listening to the 
audio from the RX and can hear G3UNT calling CQ. Even with 3.5kHz 
bandwidth (to feed the grabber) I can still hear him, across the internet!


I'd love to copy a full QSO like this, someone give him a call...?

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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Hi Jim, LF,

Must have just caught comming out of QSB as it took a dive soon after.

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> Hi Peter,
>
> Welcome to the group.
> I hope that you will soon be ready to make a QSO with one of us.
> I will try to be QRV and testing tomorrow evening (friday)
>
> 73, Regards Frank.
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
> To: "137 KHz" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:55 PM
> Subject: LF: 137 KHz my first post
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>
>> Hello  Gentlemen,
>> this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am finishing=
=20
>> ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz already, i have built from=20
>> the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing  peripherial hardware  for=20
>> the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
>> and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a successful=
=20
>> qso with some  of you  some day
>> very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming=20
>> weeks...
>>
>>
>> 73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
>> qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs
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Sorry John,
I was sure that someone was calling me - just discernable with the filter and earphones on - but couldn't get a call sign from it !
The beacons are strong here and don't help matters.
As you say 'roll on winter'.
73 Chris XIZ

John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: Chris, LF

Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not
making it down in daylight.

Roll on winter...

John GM4SLV



        
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Sorry John,<br>I was sure that someone was calling me - just discernable with the filter and earphones on - but couldn't get a call sign from it !<br>The beacons are strong here and don't help matters.<br>As you say 'roll on winter'.<br>73 Chris XIZ<br><br><b><i>John Pumford-Green GM4SLV &lt;gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Chris, LF<br><br>Hearing your CQ at 1545 UTC but despite several replies I guess I'm not<br>making it down in daylight.<br><br>Roll on winter...<br><br>John GM4SLV<br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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Hi LF,

I am testing now  my new tx on +-136.321 Khz.
If you like give it a try, reports are welcome.

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:58:09 +0100 (BST)
Peter March <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Here  here.
>    
>   I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons
> mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh? 
>   73 petefmt



I've just been calling CQ, in CW, at speeds between 10WPM and 35WPM,
for almost 2 hours. Had a difficult QSO with GI3PDN at 1650UTC - severe
QSB. Other than that heard nil. Daylight conditions, can't expect much
more. At least I was having a go. 

On a positive note----

I have, though, over the course of the last 2 months had over 50 QSOs,
all in CW, all hand sent, all at probably no more than 15WPM due to the
conditions, with at least 9 different stations, at ranges of between
500 and 1040km.

I still don't understand the moans of "perpetual beacons". A beacon at
least means there's a signal on the band that might be of use to
someone. Often radiated by a station that is also an active "QSO
maker". 

Better a beacon than an empty band entirely. I only put a CW beacon
on if I haven't the time to sit calling CQ, but want to provide
something for the greater good. I have had very nice emails from
stations in Finland, Czech, Germany, France, Norway and others
enthusing over hearing a CW signal on 500kHz. I couldn't possibly have
done that purely from live QSOs, although I have also had mp3s sent to
me from Finland of real QSOs that have been heard over there too.

There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.

Dust off your key, call CQ, work someone?


I understand there are only around 30 NoV holders. All running very low
power. It's hardly surprising the QSO rate is low. Don't assume though
that it's zero!


Cheers,

John GM4SLV
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Last night , nil also !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe

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David Pratt wrote:
> You won't be hearing any beacons or data from me on 501-504kHz

> I presume that UK stations operating Beacons on 501-504kHz and on 136kHz 
> must have special permits to do so.  I do not.
> 
> 73
> 

Dave, LF,

On your first point (above) I'm disappointed not to have heard any A1A 
CW from you yet either. Perhaps we could arrange a sked?

On the second point.

I take the term "beacon" in the context of 500kHz in its colloquial 
sense - ie a transmission intended for reception by unspecified 
stations, not in any strict legal definition, as per the license documents.

In the manner I use "beacons" I think I'm within the terms of the 
license. For one thing they aren't "unattended" as I'm always in the 
shack, or an adjacent room.

What's the difference between a fully legal  QRSS-30 (after all that's 
just A1A-CW) transmission taking 10 hours intended for visual reception 
and a repetitive 10-15wpm CW callsign lasting the same length of time?

Neither are necessarily "beacons" just because they are of a protracted 
length.

At least the proper speed CW is interesting to listen to.

The clauses that I see to be relevant:-

1(1)(a) Self-training - including technical investigation

11(4)(a) Initial Calls

It could even be argued that clause 7(5) could come into play.

My own "beacon" transmissions are in reality "initial calls" which are 
permitted as signals for "general reception".

I'd love someone to answer. Many people do, although generally by QSL 
card or email.

I see nothing in the regulation that specifies how long or short the 
"initial call" must be. As long as I identify with my callsign every 15 
minutes then all seems to be in order? Must I return to RX mode and 
"tune high to low and low to high" every now and then during my "initial 
call" to satisfy you? That's easily arranged.

To further satisfy you I'll change the message from "GM4SLV" to "CQ de 
GM4SLV" to avoid any doubt that it's an "initial call".....?

There's too much nit-picking going on at the moment, and not enough 
serious work!

I've just listened to G3UNT calling CQ on 501.xx fruitlessly (I'm at 
work listening to my RX audio via the internet). Instead of all the 
moaning about what we can and can't do perhaps someone could have worked 
him. If I can hear him in Shetland, in the daytime, then I'm sure 
someone in the home counties who is perhaps retired or off work could 
also have also done so and could have had a useful QSO to add to the 
knowledge base of the 500kHz community in this country, and beyond.

Regards,

John GM4SLV







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On 31 Oct 2007 00:34 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> heard GM4SLV beaconing again around 23.30 UTC and 0.25 UTC on 501,6
> kHz, weak, but could be identified by ear.
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 

Thanks Ha-Jo for the report. 

My antenna was faulty for the past week or so, first with a loose
top-loading wire and later it fell down completely during a storm! I
repaired it on Sunday and have had a few QSOs since. I decided to run
the beacon overnight last night.

Regards,

-- 
John GM4SLV
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TX HALTED

O/P POWER  DOWN..

TNX TO  GARY FOR INFO

G ..


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Subject: LF: : Data test , 503 , amtor fec , 85 hz shift , === 503 KHZ ===


> .... FREQ    === 503 KHZ====
>
> Slight miss , type , carrier running , 503 at moment ,
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> If the damp has not totally miss tuned the ae, will run a  data test  on 
>> 503.0 khz , center frequency of tones , APPROX , 20:00 > 24:00
>>
>> Using  multipsk,  tx set usb 501 Khz ,  toner center freq  2 Khz
>>
>> mode set ,  AMTOR-FEC  ,
>>
>> Any of the comms software should resolve it , watch out for the 'sync' 
>> indicator , if you see that , then the signal should print. ...
>>
>> **** any problem with frequency ,ples e-mail***
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> G0NBD
>> IO83LK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 
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> 




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
22:00=>07:00   WD2XGJ   ( good moments ! )

On 187 kHz :
Nil               ( VO1NA Off )

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Hallo Alberto!
Thanks for your report of beacon OK0EMW. I am glad to receive your
e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SDR receiver:
Selective preamplifier with two tubes (+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise
-110dB) >>>SDRadio home made >>>PC with two sound cards and software
WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have got an other receivers for low bands as well,
but this configuration is doing the very well. I have tested some
softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best for my experiments on
500kHz.
=20
New SDR Perseus seems very interesting. Sorry, but I think that software
for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other SDR, for example SDR-IQ. I
will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.
=20
GL on 500kHz!  I am sure, you will produce as good softwares as WinRad
is in the future.
=20
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
=20
************************************************************************
***************
=20
=20
=20
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=20
Good copy  of OK0EMW in JN45SL using the new Perseus receiver and a
random length of wire (abt. 15m)



Perseus info here :  http://sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/

73  Alberto  I2PHD

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hallo </span></font><st=
1:PersonName><font   size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;   color:navy'>Albert</span></font></st1:Perso=
nName><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>o!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for your report=20=
of beacon OK0EMW. I
am glad to receive your e-mail, becouse I would like to tell you about my SD=
R
receiver:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Selective preamplifier=20=
with two tubes
(+35dB, 3.5kHz narrow, noise -110dB) &gt;&gt;&gt;SDRadio home made
&gt;&gt;&gt;PC with two sound cards and software WinRadio 1.25 (!) I have go=
t
an other receivers for low bands as well, but this configuration is doing th=
e
very well. I have tested some softwares for SDR, but your WinRad is the best
for my experiments on 500kHz.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>New SDR Perseus seems v=
ery interesting.
Sorry, but I think that software for Perseus won=B4t be applicable for other=
 SDR,
for example SDR-IQ. I will have got SDR-IQ in some weeks.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GL on 500kHz!<span  sty=
le=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I am sure, you will produce as good softw=
ares
as WinRad is in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></font></p>

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=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>***********************=
****************************************************************<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

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ck  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:w=
indowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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ck  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:w=
indowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:w=
indowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:w=
indowtext'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] <b><span  style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></fon=
t><st1:PersonName><font   size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;   color:windowtext'>Albert</span></=
font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2  color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;  color:windowtext'>o di Bene<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10,=20=
2007
11:25 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: OK0EMW copied wi=
th
Perseus</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck  face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

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mes New Roman"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Good copy&nbsp; of OK0EMW i=
n JN45SL using the new
Perseus receiver and a random length of wire (abt. 15m)<br>
<br>
<img width=3D611 height=3D43 id=3D"_x0000_i1025"  src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01=
C80BCD.5312C780"><br>
<br>
Perseus info here :&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/">http:=
//sundry.i2phd.com/perseus/</a><br>
<br>
73&nbsp; Alberto&nbsp; I2PHD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Nice copy last night on 501.600 CW dear Mike.Congratulations for this cross  
band with F6BWO.
Seen GI4DPE beacon.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 756 PRO
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Jim,

> I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
> Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.

 excellent copy here. Screenshot attached.

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Hallo ALL!
Hard QRM and QSB  this night (the same as last night). Signal of GM4SLV
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Hi Joe , Hartmut and all ,

I will be qrv the next night to listen to the 137 Khz
and the 187 Khz (both XR on the same antenna function well,
I found the problem, just a connection cut of ground! )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj


Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hartmut, Jean-Pierre and group,
>
> Thank-you very much for the reports.  It seems from
> Hartmut's traces that the seagulls are gone and the
> stability is much better.  There are fragments of
> an N in the middle of the trace and the timing
> is consistent with what was sent, confirming the sigs
> came from here.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:
>>
>> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
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>>    =20
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>
>  =20

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Despite the high static level copied the CW signal from WE2XGR/2 on
506.5 kHz. The signal was visible 23:18-02:13 UTC. best around 01:45.

Brief copy of the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz around
02:55 UTC.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: 500 KHz GI4DPE
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Hi LF, Finbar,

GI4DPE strong again tonight.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Jim, LF,

As Graham pointed out it was me with 45 Bd RTTY 85 Hz shift on 503.6 KHz.

I stopped the beacon when I saw your signals so I could capture & send a 
report. I have in fact got 3 full screen captures using the continuous tape 
feature in SpecLab which I will send you direct.

If anyone else would like them for propogation purposes please let me know 
direct. They show the QSB periods quite well over about 1.5 hours.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing


> Dear LF Group,
>
> Thanks for the reports - am now closing down (2316utc). Very noisy here
> tonight - earlier I saw/heard some kind of data signal on about 503.6kHz
> with a bandwidth of about 100Hz, but did not  recognise the type of 
> signal.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
> 



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18.05UTC and GW4HXO beacon is Q3 in Vaasa/Finland KP03SD. Signal is slowly
improving to CW-QSO quality.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ



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Same here in IO83qp.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> GW4HXO ... NICE SIG IN IO83LK
> 
> GRAHAM ..
> 
> 
>


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 Joe,
 is your signal still drifting like the past years? There was a
 faint trace on 187.3703 kHz about 00:20-01:40 UTC.

73
Hartmut
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Thanks Mal /2 Jay was some dBs below CW read last night but there again my i=
mpressions of conditons was "mixed" Great signal from you all over the UK fr=
om the car here.  There hasnt been a place where I cant hear you even in cen=
tral London going mobile up the "The Bank"
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Cheers
LAurence G4DMA mobile


From: g3kev.ham@virgin.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Wed, 17 Oct=20=
2007 10:41:17 +0000Subject: LF: Re: 500



Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and listening. I listen at times=
 for W stns but not visual, so far nil hrd.
73 mal/g3kev
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Subject: LF: 500
Heard last night from the carGM4SLV 5-10 dB above noiseG3KEV 30dB aboveGI4DP=
E 5-25dB aboveGI3PDN 5-10 aboveG3VTT 5-10 above and Later on XGR/2 on around=
 0000z qrss10 with a full clean call.  Laurence G4DMA mobile J28 M1

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Thanks Mal /2 Jay was some dBs below CW read last night but there again my i=
mpressions of conditons was "mixed" Great signal from you all over the UK fr=
om the car here.&nbsp; There hasnt been a place where I cant hear you even i=
n central London going mobile&nbsp;up the "The Bank"<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
LAurence G4DMA mobile<BR><BR><BR>
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From: g3kev.ham@virgin.net<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wed,=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Laurence for the reports. Keep motoring and list=
ening. I listen at times for W stns but not visual, so far nil hrd.</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Heard last night from the car<BR>GM4SLV 5-10 dB above noi=
se<BR>G3KEV 30dB above<BR>GI4DPE 5-25dB above<BR>GI3PDN 5-10 above<BR>G3VTT=20=
5-10 above<BR>&nbsp;<BR>and Later on XGR/2 on around 0000z qrss10 with a ful=
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On 27/10/2007 at 18:20 hamilton mal wrote:

>Not true because without the adverts there would only be 14 pages to print
>and the cost would be minimal, currently with the revenue from adverts
>Radcom should be free.

But somebody still has to get people to provide copy, edit it (not just chan=
ge the layout to conform to the house style - there can be much more to it t=
han that).  You also have to arrange for printing and distribution, which co=
st money. =20

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ake advertising, and where the editorial team does not charge for its time,=20=
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John F5VLF




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
21:50=>03:30  WD2XGJ

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Hi Mal,

hamilton mal wrote:
> Hi all
> Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
> B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.

Yes; take a look at Lyle K0LR's website:

http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/

         73

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com


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I was too fast again, it's found here
http://www.w6cqz.org/
73 Ko, NL9222

Andy Talbot wrote:
> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your findings...
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> 
>        -- 73, Joe, K1JT











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Hello Joe ,
Indeed, between 23:00 and 02:00 UTC this part of the band is calm ,
the =93noise floor=94 is equivalent to the 137.777 !
Higher, towards 189.777 it is also calm all the night .
I will prepare the synthetizer to carry out this tests soon!
73 qro J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Although there was no trace of the 187.37 kHz signals on
> your spectra, the effects of the Europe1 broadcast on 183
> kHz could be clearly seen and it seems that this part
> of the band is fairly quiet between 2300 and 0200 UTC.
> I hope to synchronise the transmissions with UTC and
> improve the stability and accuracy of the carrier
> frequency soon.
>
> Thanks for monitoring!
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil nil nil !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

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Jean-Pierre,

     Thank you for the captures! Conditions improving!

WD2XGJ QRT tonight (STORMS!)


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 22:00=>07:00   WD2XGJ   ( good moments ! )
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil               ( VO1NA Off )
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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... Was that not crystal plaice when the bbc 1 50 mhz service came back 
after the war ? may be before they fitter antennas with 'co sequent squared' 
radiation patterns , which improved the coverage and stopped the lawns from 
turning a slight shade of brown ....

although to  be fair the antenna work that lead to  such a device was still 
secret after ww2 ... bit like visiting a radar museum .. once you get past a 
rather bent h2s scanner and may be a birmingham magnitron ... you dont get 
to see very much more hihi

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:51:47 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!
>>
>> or some of it.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>
> It may be apocryphal, but there was a story around the BBC TX training
> centre when I was there of someone very close to Droitwich who did just
> that, and got caught. Can't quite be sure what his crime was, but the
> story goes that there was a hole in the radiation pattern caused by his
> huge inductive pickup system....
>
>
> ?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> On 2 Oct 2007 at 0:52, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm
> > 
> 
> I have added a link to your site from mine:
> http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/
> Those new on here may find something of interest in my pages.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 


Thanks Dave, I will of course reciprocate! THe wider the information 
spreads the more interest there might be...

Cheers,

John GM4SLV




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil , not a trace

On 187 kHz :
Nil , not a trace

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj





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I got a couple of old copies of SPRAT and found it contained some great
ideas and tit bit ccts. It is not hard to alter the ccts for QRO
applications.
You still need to be able to solder and with the new lead free solder that
needs Mega temperatures don't set the board on fire or melt the components.
or even worse burn the house down. Maybe the black box is the best bet for
some!!!!!!!!!!
The old F M CAMM comic of years ago was a great magazine for the technical
lad and if he needed a bed time story he bought the Rover and Hotspur.
Today the trend has changed, the stories have got bigger and technical info
smaller and its all mixed up with glossy adverts in the same magazine, we
will soon need a GPS device to find our way around it, years ago a
flashlight did the trick.
The only advert one encountered was Clydesdale Glasgow selling T1154'S at 17
shillings and 6 pence and a matching receiver R1155  for 2 pounds 11
shillings, 3 and a 1/2 pence. G2AK in Birmingham had Adcola soldering irons
for 1 pound and 2 pence, the solder was free.
Those were the days and every radio amateur was chattering away in morse
code about his latest build, there were very little hers in those days, just
the odd one, there are more today and think of the problems this causes when
him and her are both rushing towards the soldering iron.
There was one called Tracy and another Felicity, lovely names just flowed
off the morse key!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if they are still about.
de Mal/G3KEV





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Laurence,

    AADE has a very powerful filter design and analysis program and its free:
http://www.aade.com/filter.htm


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> 
> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole 
> Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radcom 
> onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical for a 
> routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with thanks Laurence 9V1 LF
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Fine John,

Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text and 
power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up  and i cannot 
tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...

.... Tnx - Graham ..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:51:31 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Fine, John,
>>
>> That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a
>> clear print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the
>> band condx are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz
>> shift , see how that prints .. that is a mode , you can send by
>> simple fsk , ?
>>
>> Graham ..
>>
>
> Hi Graham, LF
>
> Not sure I can decode that with gMFSK on Linux. I can take the grabber
> offline and use the windows box/multipsk though?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Hallo ALL!
Thats fine, I have god a new station in my gallery of received stations:
GI3PDN!
Its signal was quite good, audible of 100% in the peek of conditions.
One problem was bad QRN, but it is permanent here nowadys.
 
GL on 500kHz!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 

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Hi Joe and all ,

Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nothing here

On 187 kHz :
Not listening

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Many thanks to Jean Pierre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX
> is back on, just slightly off frequency but quite stable on
> 187.3747 kHz, approximately.
>
> Signal reports and frequency measurements most welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
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>
>
>
>  =20

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I am sure this is drifting way way off topic for this reflector.

Just to throw the cat in the fire, I thought this month's RadCom 
(when I finally received it) was considerably above average. The 3B7C 
article was excellent, very much of interest to me, and produced 
incredibly soon after the DX-pedition ended. The contest supplement 
is a welcome improvement on contest reporting, even though this time 
it is largely about vhf/uhf contests which don't interest me. Part of 
Technical Topics was good, though part not so.

I have no inerest in SDR and find the coverage somewhat over the top.

Other articles were sufficiently good that it took a couple of 
evenings to give it a thorough read.

I agree that there should be some component adverts - the nearest to 
that seems to be the Westlake ad. And I have now worked out why the 
first three sheets use thick glossy paper - so that the prime 
advertisers can get high quality colour photos, let us hope they pay 
for the priveledge.

I accept that adverts are essential for it to make its way. I am sure 
you would not want the (already significant) subs to increase to 
compensate.

So enough of the bickering, RadCom has to cater for a wide range of 
interests. In any one issue there will be things you are not 
interested in and others that you are. If your interest is not 
covered then submit an article - it is not difficult, even I have 
done it.

73 Dave G3YMC


http://www.davesergeant.com



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lol=20

Hi Chris , 170 hz may be a bit wide .. 85Hz  maybe better , I did a quick ex=
p last week, sending 3 carriers at 100 Hz spacing .. 'selective fading' coul=
d be seen at Birmingham and at Shetlands the higher carrier totally disappea=
red at times=20

But its a start :-) ,  but not seen anything here ..yet=20

G ..=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN=20
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  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:20 PM
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  Many thanks Brian,

  It's amazing that I can call for hours on CW and get no answer yet test a=20=
few microseconds of RTTY and the whole world hears it !!

  73 Chris XIZ

  brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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    100 % copy of the RTTY ex G3XIZ here in Watford

    Brian - G3YKB




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Hi Graham try Rapid Electronics www.rapidelectronics.co.uk
part number 67-0886 You will need to check the site because thta is from the
2006 paper cat. They have no min order but charge £3 postage for orders
under £30.

Many dont specify the pin spacing.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:35 AM
Subject: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2
... looking for !!!


> So far no good ,
>
> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,
value
> 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x 10
> mm
>
> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find
any
> amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there
range
> now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small
sizes
> ..
>
> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
>
> Tnx - Graham ..
>
>
>



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Many thanks to Jean Pierre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX
is back on, just slightly off frequency but quite stable on
187.3747 kHz, approximately.

Signal reports and frequency measurements most welcomed.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Lubos, LF!

Thank you for the great report of my beacon!

Also Lubos, thank you for the great QSL for my report on your beacon.
This band is full of friendly people and great surprises.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 02:47:21 +0200
Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hi John, ALL!
> I am pleased to captured your signal this night. There was some QRN on
> the band, but your cw beacon was good. It was audible 339 in a peak of
> conditions.
> =20
> 73!
> =20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20

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In a message dated 11/10/2007 20:40:39 GMT Daylight Time, dibene@usa.net  
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Does anybody have, or know where to search for, the  interconnecting cable 
between the SPM-19 W&G Selective Voltmeter 
and  the accompanying PS-19 Level Generator ? It has two connectors similar 
to the  Centronics connector at the printer 
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If it is 24 pins perhaps a GPIB cable would do the job?
 
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Thanks Nicolas,

Yes with te baloon antenna 30 meters high at this moment, my new TX is a 400=
-W Switch-Mode home made.
You can find the design on Andy G4JNT home page.

73 Frank.
   =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: F4DTL@aol.com=20
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  Hello Frank, strong signal, whats kind of antenna used ? balloon ?

  Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP

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  Ant: mini whip PA0RDT


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Well,

I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that may
be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during QSB
peaks.

 " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 15 October 2007 22:37
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test


Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .






----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test


> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
>>
>> Gary.
>>
>>
> Here you are Graham and the LF group
>
>
> g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
> g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com
> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n
>
>
>
> error free!
>
> I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
> into/below the noise.
>
>
>
> --
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
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>
>
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>
>







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Last night I copied WD2XSH/6, WD2XSH17 and WE2XGR/2 in QRSS3. For
fading analysis I posted all screenshots taken 23:45-03:55 to my
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http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hi John, ALL!
I am pleased to captured your signal this night. There was some QRN on
the band, but your cw beacon was good. It was audible 339 in a peak of
conditions.
 
73!
 
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If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are permitted
to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
We need two way communications for real time assessment of propagation and
not ONE WAY.
Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in BEACON
mode but forget to mention that they would get the same reports if they were
in QSO.I often get reports from near and far while in QSO mode.
I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a selected part of the 500 khz
band, like the German system and another for real  communications by real
radio amateurs preferably using the traditional marine method of CW.
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: <uwe-jannsen@versanet.de>
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> Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:
>
>
> >
> > There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> > beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> > conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> > than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
> >
> Hello John,
> p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an
amateur-
> station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
> gl and thanks for the grabber.
> Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv
>
>
>



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On 15 Oct 2007 23:34 GMT
hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:

> Dear all, 
> 
> just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz
> apart, GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at
> 501,4 kHz and 501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have
> some QSB, GI4DPE more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about
> the same level.
> 
> Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 
> 
> As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a
> regular possibility in autumn and winter nights.
> 
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> 

Thanks for the great report Ha-Jo! This is very pleasing. The distance
is around 1500km. I'm interested that Finbar's signal had more QSB, but
that we were both similar in peaks!

Thanks again!

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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David Pratt wrote:
> In a recent message, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote ...
>> David Pratt wrote:
>>
>>> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence 
>>> and  is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.
>>
>> Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
>> only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable 
>> (as required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of 
>> transmission, in the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" 
>> as defined.
> 
> I am sure you're right, John.  The use of the word "Beacon" is a 
> misnomer in this context and should be referred to as CQ (or initial) 
> calls.


Dave, LF,

Yes, I agree, in so far as that's how best to describe them in strict 
terminology. I see nothing wrong, however, in calling them "beacons" in 
a colloquial sense. Then everyone understands that they may have to wait 
an inordinate length of time before you send "K".

> Looking forward to working you when I have improved my antenna system.

Yes, me too! The more stations there are bashing away on the key the 
less perceived need to fill up the silence with "initial calls" - hi!

Cheers,

John



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Hello John. 
Thanks for the reply, my RX is a Kenwood TS140S with a pre-amp, TX will be
xtal controlled, ant will be my 102ft doublet with both legs of the feeder
commoned at the Variometer to form a Marconi 'T' antenna, mean height 8m.

73 Ken M0KHW  IO91TV 


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Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz NoV

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Ken Wright wrote:

> Hello all LF's
> 
>  
> 
> Just received my NoV for 501 - 504 kHz, effective until 29th Feb 2008, is
> this a common end date, as I only have 5 months. Hope to be active ASAP.
> 

Congratulations Ken and welcome aboard!

Yes the end date is 29th Feb for us all, unless (fingers, toes and 
everything else crossed) we can get an extension (and power increase?).

You've got on just at the right time, with autumn/winter conditions 
starting, the nights drawing in and the window of suitable propagation 
increasing day by day.

What are you thinking of using as TX, RX and antenna? Modes? 

Have you heard any signals yet on the band? You're in Luton so there 
should be plenty of local signals for you to hear/work. I'm a bit ore 
remote - up in Shetland! - so have to struggle to hear/be heard.

Best of luck
Please feel free to ask as many questions as you want, it's a steep 
learning curve down on 500, but great fun if you like getting your hands 
dirty and your soldering iron hot!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland, IP90gg

- webpages (new) showing my ramshackle setup at 
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm




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Hello Hartmut and Joe,
I have just controlled the frequency of my receiver I am with less 30mHz=20
of the true frequency! ...... (ADRET 730a + OCXO disciplined by GPS)=20
Joe, the package left today, are you receive the documents attached to=20
my email. I will listen to this night your beacon,
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hello Hartmut,
>
> Thank-you for sending the good news that the seagulls are gone
> and confirming that the frequency correction was accurate.
> Jean Pierre will be happy to learn this as it is now more
> likely the signals he received were from here.  This is
> impressive because there was a megawatt station on
> the air at the time and just 4.3 kHz away.
>
> The transmissions will continue until Saturday morning.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Joe,
>>
>> noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still
>> not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the
>> dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the
>> dashes are in a straight line.
>> Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance
>> +/- 0.05 Hz.
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,

I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest 
version

Thanks for the reports,

Graham ..



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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Multpsk
>>
>> Amtor set -
>> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
>> mode
>>
>> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
>> - 200-
>>
>> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
>> over data stream
>
>
> I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
> shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
> option...it isn't there!
>
>
> I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
> for you. I must QRT now for bed!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 
> 10/15/2007 06:48
>
> 




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Subject: Re: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE  19.10.2007
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Hello Armin ,
Good signal in JN06HT ( see picture )
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Karl-Heinz Gansel a =E9crit :
> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH =3D JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to=20
> the reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test.=20
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
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>

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It looks like the new Loran has started and the qrm is vy strong on 137 khz.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Mal,

Many thanks for the comments.  If it is okay with you, I would like to incor=
porate them in a note on Loran for the next CREG Journal.

John F5VLF/G3PAI

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/10/2007 at 15:20 hamilton mal wrote:

>John,
>Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, when
>located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
>My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will be
>fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
>or less.
>I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me
>in
>the past.
>
>MalG3KEV
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:51 PM
>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>
>
>Thank you everyone for your observations.
>
>Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in
>particular to 87-90kHz):
>
>"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations
>suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would
>increase by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the
>same amount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about
>5dB.
>
>How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the
>strength of other LORAN transmission."
>
>Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please?
>
>73
>John F5VLF/G3PAI
>
>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
>On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote:
>
>>Dear Gary, LF,
>>
>>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
>>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power
>200
>>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.
>>
>>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
>>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.
>>
>>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42
>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>Subject: LF: Re: loran
>>
>>
>>Hi Mal, LF,
>>
>>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
>>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
>>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
>>ones.
>>
>>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly
>copy
>>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried
>>in
>>noise.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
>>To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>>Subject: LF: loran
>>
>>
>>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz.
>I
>>> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
>>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs
>>500
>>> etc, it is not necessry.
>>> 73 G3KEV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>






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> If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your 
> findings...
>
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
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>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
>
>       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>
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Thanks Andy - ran the basic prog and got my answers - now to fig out standar=
d values! Excellent - thanks


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---------------------------------> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:10:01 +0000> Fr=
om: andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re=
: LF: Chebyshev>> If you want simple lumped ones, my website contains a basi=
c filter design prog> http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/designsw.htm>> For more adv=
anced stuff, I use Ansoft Designer SV (student version)> which has a wonderf=
ul filter design tool under "projects - insert> filter design" then follow t=
h einstructions>> Designer SV is a big download, but its free and an excelen=
t Rf design tool !>> Andy G4JNT>> On 29/10/2007, Laurence KL1X  wrote:>>>> A=
nyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole C=
hebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radcom=
 onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical f=
or a routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with thanks Laurenc=
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Laurence.
You asked a question and you got a lot of advice about looking up web pages.=
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at you require.
Let me know the cut off freq and I will give you the required values.
de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses..
  =20
  Laurence


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Hi  Jean Pierre,

Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.

Joe

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hi Joe ,
> I listening tonight
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Hi Nicolas and Warren,
> >
> > Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> > be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> > Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
> >
> > Joe VO1NA
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  s=
tart
> >> beaconing ?
> >> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183=20=
kHz 1
> >> MW,
> >> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> >>
> >> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> >> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> >> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> >> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Joe VO1NA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Good T/A conditions last night. Very good copy of the QRSS3 signal
from WD2XSH/17 on 505.259 kHz 00:25-02:06 UTC. Good peaks of the QRSS3
signal from WD2XSH/6 02:30-05:00 UTC.

>From the UK copied G0MRF (QRSS3), GI4DPE(CW) and GM4SLV (CW).

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hallo Finbar, John and ALL!
I can see two signals from UK early morning. It was very interesting to
study different time of QSB between them. Especially Finbar=B4s signal was
sometimes up to 25dB S/N strong and consecutively decreased to noise
level.=20
Thanks for beaconing, it is very useful! The same I have to say about
your grabber, John! =20
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Graham,

Can't you harness the power recieved & run your station !!!!!

or some of it.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Several tens of mV's  .... is that all !!!
>
> I can run a speaker off my ae (coil and diode) , check out where radio 
> merseyside is located .. :-(
>
> G ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Local AM transmitter on PC output
>
>
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:
>>
>>> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
>>> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
>>> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
>>> view the AM on a scope.
>>>
>>> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
>>> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
>>> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
>>> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
>>>
>>> Andy  G4JNT
>>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Andy,
>>
>> I think you're near Southampton?
>> Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power
>> filler - HI!)
>>
>> Found this listing too
>>
>> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>> Shetland
>>
>>
>>
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David Pratt wrote:

> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence and 
> is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2. 

Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable (as 
required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of transmission, in 
the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" as defined.

The duty cycle of TX to RX isn't defined in the rules.

My own station occasionally operates in TX mode (an "initial call") from 
2300UTC to 0700UTC and then in RX mode "listening for replies" (as 
observable via http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/grabber.htm ) 
between 0700UTC and 2300UTC.

Unless of course it's being used for QSOs at times within these windows.

That should just about cover it?

Now. How about we get on and do some actual "self-training and 
investigations of a technical nature"?

John



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Hi all
Mf condx vy good at present.
Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band plus
some W stns.
Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO acty.
de G3KEV




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Some traces, at the beginning of night good copy of WD2XGJ!

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj









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Just got a bit more....

" G0nbd g0nbd  q1l  g0nbd@hotmaitAom cqcqcq test g0nds?@ "

Dave G3WCB

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Subject: [500] Re: Olivia data test


Well,

I just caught the following fragment, but mostly it's garbage. I've got a
large standing carrier near 503.5 (coming from my ADSL modem!) and that may
be affecting things. I can see the lines on the waterfall display during QSB
peaks.

 " qslz g0nbd@hotm"9Q "

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, SE England.




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Thanks for that John,

Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much of the
'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?

As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the qsb
period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite effective on this
band ,
only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea system .

Tnx

Graham .







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Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
afternoon here in bright sunshine.
Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after dark.
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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!
WD2XGJ went QRT at 05:30 UTC - will stay on later tonight.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Much noise + qrn, some traces, over the morning good copy of WD2XGJ!
> 
> On 189 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
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Hi all
I built a class E type TX in a couple of days, my own design layout etc and
kept it simple, but I am experienced having built equipment over the years
from the valve era, then transistors and today mostly IC technology. The
problem for most would be getting the components and this is where Radcom
falls down, not a single advert even for a resistor. The trouble with the
big suppliers like Farnell is the cost ie minimum order of =A320 each time a
component is required.
My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit the
cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find
it would not be published in Radcom.
My cct consists of an IC706 transmitting a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq
wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50
ohms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50
metres to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at about
33 metres vertical and the rest horizontal.
This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.
Most of the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. To
date it has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach would
be an EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.
The PA coil is about 50 years old,  ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with a
tinned copper winding, just right for the job. The condensers are also ex
equipment, high voltage.
Is Radcom interested???
73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Mode change

FEC  AMTOR    85 HZ SHIFT ,

CENT FREQ  502.8

Graham ..



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Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded, much
appreciated.
One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use the
4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band). Has
anyone seen a cct along these lines.
Tnx agn de Mal/G3KEV

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> Mal,
>
>   Yes, its on Lyle's web site:
> http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/
>
>  Look for the file mfj259.zip  halfway down the list of links on his page.
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> > Hi all
> > Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ
259
> > B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
> > de Mal/G3KEV
> >
> >
>
>



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Dear Johan,


Thank you for your email.

> "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment=20
orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.

Magazines take paid advertising to make money, not to subsidise the advertis=
ers. They wouldn't be willing to sell the advertising space unless it paid f=
or the extra pages plus the extra postage plus a bit of profit.

I think you'd find these magazines would be quite a bit more expensive witho=
ut the ads.


> Some ad's=20
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive=20
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic=20
gadget..".

This is a more serious point. Magazines with a strong sense of purpose will=20=
print honest reviews; others will only print the good points because they do=
n't want to alienate their advertisers.

I get the impression that the Peter Hart reviews are fairly independent. Oth=
ers are less so: I remember a review of a book that the RSGB markets, which=20=
said that it was superb, wonderful, the best thing since sliced bread. Havin=
g read the book I knew it to be well worth reading despite far too many faul=
ts which the book editors should have eliminated. This sort of uncritical re=
view loses respect for the magazine.


73,
Chris Trayner G4OKW

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WD2XGJ will be off tonight due to stormy weather conditions.


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?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried 
re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there 
been a windows xp-pro update ??

Tnx

Graham .. 




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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:47:33 +0000
k2ors@comcast.net wrote:

> I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in
> PHYSICS!!!!
> 


Yes, and I blew up the front end of my AR7030 RX while working him in
JT65A mode on 20m earlier this year... 

Cheers,

Jon GM4SLV


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Last night , nil on my sceen !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>
>> =20
>>> Hello Joe ,
>>> Last night , nothing here !
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>   =20
>>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     =20
>>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>>> I listening tonight
>>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>       =20
>>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM=20
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240=20
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         =20
>>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats=20
>>>>>>> time of  start
>>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station=20
>>>>>>> on  183 kHz 1
>>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          =20
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
>>>>> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        =20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      =20
>>> --=20
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>>>
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>>
>>  =20
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
> Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are
> permitted to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
> We need two way communications for real time assessment of
> propagation and not ONE WAY.
> Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in
> BEACON mode but forget to mention that they would get the same
> reports if they were in QSO.I often get reports from near and far
> while in QSO mode. I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a
> selected part of the 500 khz band, like the German system and another
> for real  communications by real radio amateurs preferably using the
> traditional marine method of CW. G3KEV

Sorry Mal, but I don't understand.

How can one get a signal report, in a 2-way QSO on 500kHz, from OH, DL,
F, EA, LA and various non-NoV G stations? They can't operate on 500kHz.

Cross-band QSOs are no good - after all that would still be only ONE WAY
on 500 so a reception report of hearing a beacon is just as valid as a
cross-band QSO.


If I'm in a position to operate I will call CQ and listen for other
CQs. I've lost count of the CQs I've answered without being heard.
There are a lot of people out there that stuggle to receinve weak
signals due to their local noise floors.

I answer every station I hear, until I become convinced that they can't
hear me, for whatever reason and then give up, making a mental note to
try again if they are ever heard again at a better strength.


But if I can't be at the key then I see no harm in radiating a signal
for others to use. I presume that when you're not sending CQ on 502.5
that you are on other bands, persuing other interests? Leaving dead
stony silence on 500.

I'd rather give something back for others so I sometimes send a beacon,
but more usually I make available my receiving setup for others to use,
via my grabber. 

I also have live streaming audio from my receiver available via the
internet, but I'm not revealing here how to receive it! Anyone who
wants to know can contact me directly. 

These things are done as a service to others in the 500kHz community.

Better to be doing something useful while waiting for CW QSOs or
building gear to improve ones own station, than to sit there bashing
out terse emails deriding "appliance operators" and the inadequate
CW skills of the active NoV holders.

As I said previously "I have had over 50 QSOs,with at least 9 stations,
all in CW and all hand sent". I have never tried to work RTTY or PSK (I
tried to receive some as a help to someone else).

Am I unique in that my NoV actually states "A1A, CW" as the ONLY
permitted mode?


I don't restrict myself to BEACON MODE. However - how am I going to
know if a fleeting opening to W or VE occurs at 3am without some form
of pre-arranged overnight beacon. I can't sit bashing away at the key
overnight, I have a full time job to hold down.

I never even call CQ with any form of memory keyer - all my CW is live,
hand sent morse.


Please stop this "BEACONS BAD - CW GOOD" nonesense. Anything that helps
anyone get something new and educational from access to this part of
the spectrum should be applauded. 

I have absolutely no interst in working the "flavour of the month
DXpedition" on HF, nor of gaining DXCC/WAS/WAC or any other "stamp
collecting" award. 

I'm interested in building/improving my station in order to have REAL
CW QSOs. I have had many long chats, oftern of well over an hour long,
in CW on 500, despite shocking conditions and the ridiculous power
restrictions, during which I've done some real and interesting tests -
eg reducing TX power to 50mW - no rubber stamp "599 pse agn ur name
qth" QSO here.

 

John GM4SLV
IP90GG
Clousta, Shetland



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Thank-you again, Jean-Pierre.
It seems the HP 5382A has a TCXO output that can be
used to improve the carrier accuracy. Will try to use
this soon.

73 to all
Joe

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil also !......
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> > Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> > it has only 3 hours of listening there
> > (stop of ?Europe 183kHz? for maintenance)
> > 73 J-P f1afj
> >
> > Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> >> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
> >> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Joe
>
>

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Andy,

     I did a test last week with JT2 on 500kHz and unfortunately no one was able to decode it - not sure  what the problem was. I wonder if you have successfully used JT2? I loaded messages into the TX1 through TX6 boxes and pressed the corresponding button to the right of the box - noises came out the sound card and were sent out on 500kHz but no decodes despite multiple listeners.  If you could advise how to properly Tx that would be appreciated!  The program looks very interesting but the documentation is sparse at best.
  
   

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> I've been watching with interest the use of the narrow versions of the
> various data modes being used on the 500kHz band, and anyone who reads
> RadCom will see the mention I made in the Data Column last month of
> the parallel FSK and PSK31 trials..
> 
> Joe Taylor, K1JT has written a suite of programmes using
> multi-frequency FSK coupled with heavy source coding and forward error
> correction for extreme weak signal communications on VHF through to
> Microwaves, especially targetted at Tropo, EME and Meteor scatter.
> I mention it on this reflector as he has now introduced two new
> embryonic modes (JT2 and JT4) that include narrow shift options (a few
> tens of Hz overall) that may be well-suited to MF communications.
> 
> I suggest a visit to his web site to read up on the modes and
> techniques he employs, and download the latest version of WSJT.  The
> main web page doesn't mention JT2 / JT4, but the beta version at 5.9.8
> is detailed in the links shown here, and experimenters are invited to
> download an try it out.   There is quite a lot of description and
> theory supplied, and makes for a fascinating read!
> The heavy error correction and redundancy adds considerably to the
> weak signal capability.
> 
> Main WSJT site      http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/
> JT2/4 description     http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT2_JT4.TXT
> Download latest WSJT software
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT598.EXE
> 
> I implemented direct DDS-generated JT65B on the GB3VHF 2m beacon a
> couple of years ago, and the mode is now being used on the GB3RAL
> 40/50/60/70.05MHz beacon family.  Details of GB3VHF can be found on my
> web page shown below.  Reception reports all agree on the mode's
> extreme weak signal capability and a major improvenment over CW alone.
>  It will be interesting to see if the narrow band versions have
> anything to offer the lower end of the spectrum.
> 
> Be aware though, the JT modes do rely on quite accurate timing, and PC
> clocks need to be set to within a second or two of each other.
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 



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Graham, LF, Chris,

It's G3XIZ, running RTTY at 45.45 baud 85 Hz shift. Solid copy at this
location, received with WinWarbler v4.50.

Text received here as follows:-

"
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD

G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY
G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH
G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH
G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD
G3NZP   MALCOLM CRAWLEY
G3OLD   TOM     HONITON
G3ROO   IAN     DOVER
G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE
G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER
G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH
G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH
G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY
G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE
G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE
G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH
G3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL
G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM
G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM
G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD
G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS
G4GDR   ADRIAN  SWINDON
G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL
GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE
GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY
GM4ISM  MARK
GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND
GWGEUEP  ROG     CARDIGAN
GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST
M0BMU   JIM     HATFIELD
M0FMT   PETER   HOLWELL
M0KHW   KEN     LUTON

DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ

LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
etc, etc.
"

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England

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Subject: LF: whos on 502 Khz ??


Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?

G ..






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> 
> I should be available from 11pm BST. Dust off the key! See you on the
> band.


Oh well, at least I tried ;-)

Called CQ for about 40 minutes on 502.5 from 21:40 to 22:20 UTC. No
takers so I'm afraid it's beacon mode for the night.

I'm really amazed at getting reports from OH/F/OK/EA and LA - there are
lots of people out there in other countries desperate to hear some CW
on 500 and unable to get permission to operate from their own
governments. Finland ans Sweden recently turned down attempts to get
amateur access for instance.

So if not at the key trying to work some UK stations lets give others
a chance to optimise their own receive setups and hear some CW.

It's not even unattended operation, I sleep in the shack ;-) 

Well I would if the XYL knew about the new IC-718 I haven't just
bought, "no dear, that's been hear for years, I'm sure you've seen it
before..."


73

John




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  Many thanks Hartmut for the report. It is gratifying to me to know my signal is reaching Germany. By my calculations it makes the trip 464.5 miles sorry 747.5km. My power to the antenna is about 7 to 8 watts which is within the spirit of the licence rules.
  The antenna is about 13m up and 40m long horizontal wid 4 ground radials.Matching coil is 100mm diam approx 320yH ant current about 0.5A. Top insulator plastic soon to be glass. 
  My location IO91UX is near Hitchin, my home town. It is a historical market town in North Hertfordshire about 70km due North of London.
  Once again thanks for the report.
  Very Best 73 Pete FMT.


Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:  Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,
GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ. G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz
upwards overnight.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on
505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp




       
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<FONT size=2>  <div>Many thanks Hartmut for the report. It is gratifying to me to know my signal is reaching Germany. By my calculations it makes the trip 464.5 miles sorry 747.5km. My power to the antenna is about 7 to 8 watts which is within the spirit of the licence rules.</div>  <div>The antenna is about 13m up and 40m long horizontal wid 4 ground radials.Matching coil is 100mm diam approx 320yH ant current about 0.5A. Top insulator plastic soon to be glass. </div>  <div>My location IO91UX is near Hitchin, my home town. It is a historical market town in North Hertfordshire about 70km due North of London.</div>  <div>Once again thanks for the report.</div>  <div>Very Best 73 Pete FMT.</div></FONT><BR><BR><B><I>Hartmut Wolff &lt;h-wolff@gmx.de&gt;</I></B> wrote:  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Heavy static last night. A lot of beacons were active. Copied GI4DPE,<BR>GW4HXO, M0FMT, G3VXL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.
 G3VXL was drifting about 50 Hz<BR>upwards overnight.<BR><BR>Captures can be seen here:<BR>http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm<BR><BR>Nothing readable from the US. Traces of CW signals were visible on<BR>505.75kHz and 506.5kHz.<BR><BR>73<BR>Hartmut<BR>www.h-wolff.de<BR>Locator: JO52hp<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;


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Laurence KL1X schrieb:
> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -

Laurence,

/6 received last night on 505.266 and /17 was the night before on 
505.259. /17 heard frequently on 505.75 in the past weeks.

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Ill be looking as well but the cranes are a bit noisy down there - I seem to=
 have a carrier on 187.349 which has some qsb on it so Ill try to find out w=
hich direction it isnt coming from.
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If anyone want to shove a signal out on 137Khz or whereever Ill be delighted=
 to look for you - any mode.
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I had a trace of  a "keyed carrier" on 505.180 last night - not a full ID bu=
t something just one hour after Eu darkness...interesting, and not very long=
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> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:30:54 -0230> From: jcraig@mun.ca> To: rsgb_lf_gr=
oup@blacksheep.org> Subject: LF: 1600m QRV again> > > Many thanks to Jean Pi=
erre F1AFJ and Alan G3NYK the 1600m TX> is back on, just slightly off freque=
ncy but quite stable on> 187.3747 kHz, approximately.> > Signal reports and=20=
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Ill be looking as well but the cranes are a bit noisy down there - I seem to=
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hich direction it isnt coming from.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;<BR>
I had a trace of&nbsp; a "keyed carrier" on 505.180 last night - not a full=20=
ID but something just one hour after Eu darkness...interesting, and not very=
 long.<BR>
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<BR><BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:30:54 -0230<BR>&gt; From: jcraig@mun.=
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:33:14 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> How can we have regular skeds when there are only 4 regular stations
> active, one on RTTY, one on CW, one on PSK and another only on BEACON
> mode. My previous message must have escaped YOU.
> 
> G3KEV
> 


Please can you identify the "only 4 regular stations active"?
Who is the unique "one on CW"?

On CW recently I've worked or heard :-

GI3PDN
GI4DPE
G3XVL
GM4ISM
G3DXZ
G3XIZ
G3UNT
G3KEV
GW4HXO
G3WCE

If I include myself that make a round 10.

I know there are others that I can't quite here from my far north
location. These are all CW stations. There have been off RTTY signals
heard too.

I make it more than your "one on CW" anyway.

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Roman,

Not sure on that , the signal was center freq , 503.3  , would of seen a 
band of 'noise' 85 hz wide for the fec , tending to  look like 2 tones at 
the edge , and the olivia looked like a  uniform 250 hz wide strip ..

thanks for looking , may be later in the year !

Graham

G0NBD
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> Hi Graham!
>
> not sure about your signal.
>
> I copy carrier with data on the 503.250
>
> looked into my spectran in qrss3.
>
> Look here:
>
> http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/503.25/503.25.jpg
>
> Roman
>
>
>
> 16.10.07, 02:53, Graham (g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk):
>
>
>
>> Lol .. after all that ... ok well i will close at 12 ,
>
>> I think the prog is 4.4 now if you follow the link , thats the latest
>
>> version
>
>> Thanks for the reports,
>
>> Graham ..
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:32 PM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: MODE CHANGE -- AMTOR-FEC 85 HZ SHIFT .. 503.3 CENTER
>
>> > On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:21:34 +0100
>
>> > "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >
>
>> >> Multpsk
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Amtor set -
>
>> >> click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx
>
>> >> mode
>
>> >>
>
>> >> over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170
>
>> >> - 200-
>
>> >>
>
>> >> click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center
>
>> >> over data stream
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I need a more recent Multipsk! Mine is v 4.3 but only has 170/200Hz
>
>> > shift for amtor-fec, which explains why I couldn't spot the 85Hz
>
>> > option...it isn't there!
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I haven't time to sort this tonight, but will certainly try another day
>
>> > for you. I must QRT now for bed!
>
>> >
>
>> > Cheers,
>
>> >
>
>> > John
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > -- 
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> --
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> 73!
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> Roman, RW3ADB
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Hello LFers

I had previously described an antenna for 500kHz on this reflector which 
used an HF quad and its feeder fed against ground using a suitable ATU. 
The calculated gain of this antenna is around -20dBi.
This arrangement is described in the latest RadCom in the 'Antennas' 
column The caption should read 500kHz not 150kHz). This antenna worked 
well on receive and I heard OK0EMW's CW using it (thanks for the Rx QSL 
card Lubos).

I finally got around to making a transmitter. It comprises a PL509 sweep 
tube in class AB1 driven by my HB DDS (previously used for 73 and 136kHz).
My first QSO was with Chris G3XIZ who gave me 589. I was called by (I 
think) G3YHV but lost him due to QRN. I later tail ended GM4SLV in QSO 
with a G and after a difficult start (339) the signal improved to 559 
during the QSO and faded right out at the end.
Later I heard John working G3UNT. At that time I was unable to hear 
John. Later heard G3UNT (who has an S9 signal here) working F6CNI, 
PA4PCH and CT1ANZ cross band.
Thanks for a great QSO John. I now have the locator business sorted now.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO




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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:13:54 +0000
Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:


> 
> I finally got around to making a transmitter. It comprises a PL509
> sweep tube in class AB1 driven by my HB DDS (previously used for 73
> and 136kHz). My first QSO was with Chris G3XIZ who gave me 589. I was
> called by (I think) G3YHV but lost him due to QRN. I later tail ended
> GM4SLV in QSO with a G and after a difficult start (339) the signal
> improved to 559 during the QSO and faded right out at the end.

Hello Peter, LF,

Thanks for the info on your setup. I wondered about the "150kHz" bit in
RADCOM! Now I understand, a typo...

The G station you heard me working was G3YHV, Colin in Bristol. 

The band certainly shows some deep and slow QSB at times, but if you
persist long enough you'll work the station. I've had long (>1hour)
QSOs with GI4DPE back in July/Aug/Sept where we just kept going
regardless. Just when we thought it was prudent to give up the signal
would climb back out of the noise.

Nice to work you Peter, for the best UK DX on 500 so far - unless
someone knows better.

Anyone in GU/GJ reading this list and want to have a go...?

John

-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Correction:
/17 was on 505.259 in QRSS3 last night, too. Copy started
at 21:45 when Dave was calling SM6BHZ.

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 Locator: JO52hp


> Laurence KL1X schrieb:
>> Can I get confirmation that /6 is still on  505.266 and /17 on 505.259 -

> Laurence,

> /6 received last night on 505.266 and /17 was the night before on 
> 505.259. /17 heard frequently on 505.75 in the past weeks.

> 73
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Dr Wolf,

Everything is now, fine , I'm running the latest 'stable' version. I'm not 
sure as to what had happened, as initially, I re-installed over the existing 
file set , with no result.

I then,totally un-installed the software and directory using the uninstall 
function,  , re-installed,   its working fine

Whatever had happend, im not sure, the prog booted up , responded to  the 
menue's but there was no waterfall or spectrum display , as if the soundcard 
had not been selected.

Even if it only ran on a  tuesday morning , its still a very impressive 
analyser lol

Rgds

Graham ..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Spec lab wont run ...... win xp-pro


Hello Graham,

I assume you use one of the "stable" (not "unstable") releases... I recently 
modified the buffer structure to support very long FFT's, which caused some 
problems with the memory allocation.

To get SpecLab running again without re-installing it, delete the files 
SETTINGS.INI and MCONFIG.INI in the SpecLab directory. This takes you back 
to the safe default values, and allows you to select one of the predefined 
settings from the main menu.

Best regards,
  Wolf  DL4YHF

(currently without internet access at home; sri for the ads adde by the 
webmail provider)

----- original Nachricht --------

Betreff: LF: Spec lab wont run ...... win xp-pro
Gesendet: So 28 Okt 2007 20:15:38 CET
Von: "Graham"<g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
>
>
>

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13:58





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There could have been a mutiny on the barque bringing it Dave !! :-))
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----- Original Message ----- 
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> Glad I'm not the only one still waiting!!
> Thought 'the colonies' QTH may have had something to do with it--  
> perhaps not....
> Dave, ZL3FJ (member since 1968)




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Joe , are you ON now ? , because I receive traces on your frequency,
in spite of the splatters of =93Europe 1=94 I increased the sensitivity of
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Cermet trimmer  top adj , 4.7 or 5k  pin space 5mm x 10mm  qty 2 ... looking for !!!
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Ok Alan,

Yes, thats the best I could find ,  I was looking for the type 3386G, but=20
for some reason no 5k ... rapid , now =A34-50p under =A320 , It never occure=
d to=20
me that you could not just go  and buy a 4.7/5 k pot , Ic's from e-bay=20
bulgaria ,ok, but pot's . bit of a shock hihi

Tnx

Graham ..


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2 ... looking for !!!


> Hi Graham try Rapid Electronics www.rapidelectronics.co.uk
> part number 67-0886 You will need to check the site because thta is from=20
> the
> 2006 paper cat. They have no min order but charge =A33 postage for orders
> under =A330.
>
> Many dont specify the pin spacing.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: LF: Cermet trimmer top adj , 4.7 or 5k pin space 5mm x 10mm qty 2
> ... looking for !!!
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>
>> So far no good ,
>>
>> Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj ,
> value
>> 4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x=20
>> 10
>> mm
>>
>> The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find
> any
>> amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there
> range
>> now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small
> sizes
>> ..
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>> Any suggestions , links or supply ?
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>> Tnx - Graham ..
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Good copy here Chris in Ipswich.

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IZ G3XIZ
   TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
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Good copy here Chris in Ipswich.<br><br>TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3X<br>IZ G3XIZ<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLASWADE BEDS BEDS<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; LOK IO92UB IO92UB <br>&nbsp;&nbsp; INTERNET:&nbsp; C.CJO AT <a href="http://BTIBTENET.COM">
BTIBTENET.COM</a><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ AR <br><br><br>Chris G3XVL<br>JO02NB<br><br>

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Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?

G .. 



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Hi,

I have been an RSGB member for quite a few years now and I agree with 
most of you that "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
orgy! The number of full-page ad's for multi-button appliances is 
asymptotically approaching 50% of the total number of pages. My 
"threshold of pain" has been reached long ago, I am saddened by this 
development and I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...

The swedish ham magazine QTC seems to be following the same trend. 
Technical articles are beeing replaced by mega-multi-button 
advertisments and quantity seems to go before quality... Some ad's 
disguised as "reviews" are sometimes really disturbing: 99% positive 
comments and then "Thanks to company XYZ for the loan of the plastic 
gadget..".

Think!

The future of amateur radio may already be behind us. :-(

73
Johan SM6LKM


Andy Talbot wrote:
> The two job titles that used to run the magazine
> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!



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20071025 2050z KP03SD

GI3PDN and GI4PDE have both been S1 over noise for a long time now on 502.5=20=
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501.5kHz sending their initial calls.

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Hi Nicolas and Warren,

Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73

Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

>
> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  star=
t
> beaconing ?
> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183 kHz=
 1
> MW,
> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>
>
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>
>
>
> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Hello all,

OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to 
the reflektor.

He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
 
technical Information:
TX:    X-tal exciter
Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader

His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
Please send him  receiving reports!

thank  you,
73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS







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hamilton mal wrote:
> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothing
> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!

You are right Mal. A miracle like digital signal processing or similar is 
needed... ;-)

73
Johan SM6LKM



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: LF: Re: MF GOOD


> .......and long-path condx very good on 160m in the morning. ZL7 and ZL3
> worked Friday, KH6AT and ZM1A both excellent signals this morning.
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
Well done, good dx. If we could get some of these 160 m operators interested
in 500 plus more permitted power this end it would make a big difference and
challenge to engage in some meaningful propagation studies and have some
real time QSO'S.
I have worked ZL and KH6 and KL7 in the past several times but not lately. I
must get up earlier in the mornings !!
73 Mal/G3KEV

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:06 AM
> Subject: LF: MF GOOD
>
>
> > Hi all
> > Mf condx vy good at present.
> > Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band
> > plus
> > some W stns.
> > Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO
acty.
> > de G3KEV
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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Jean-Pierre,

     Thanks for the report! WD2XGJ still QRP 250 watts.  QRO soon!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 23:30=>03:30  WD2XGJ
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nil
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Hello Hartmut,

Thank-you for sending the good news that the seagulls are gone
and confirming that the frequency correction was accurate.
Jean Pierre will be happy to learn this as it is now more
likely the signals he received were from here.  This is
impressive because there was a megawatt station on
the air at the time and just 4.3 kHz away.

The transmissions will continue until Saturday morning.

73
Joe

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Joe,
>
> noted a trace here on about 187.37025 kHz 23:00-01:30 last night. Still
> not fully readable. The drift seems to be under control. On friday the
> dashes were looking like a half of a "flying seagull". Last night the
> dashes are in a straight line.
> Probably my rx system is not proper calibrated. I estimate the tolerance
> +/- 0.05 Hz.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>


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Strong signal Arnim,nice to see a new station at 137.702 KHz

GL 73
Victor
PA3FNY
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Gary

.... last report was from finland , bit of a leap from hitchin ... did you 
get a save of it ? , ive not seen it yet, was it showing at birmingham ? or 
shetland ?

whats the reoprts from south of watford gap , at 170 hz shift , I would of 
thought any station could of decoded it ?

Graham ,,


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


> Hi LF,
>
> I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
> ????
>
> ******************************
> 1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
> ******************************
>
> I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
> know in there - M0FMT ???
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY
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>
>> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Its not Me !
>>
>> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>>
>> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
>> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
>> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>>
>> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
>> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>>
>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>>
>> http://www.davesergeant.com
>>
>>
>>
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Although there was no trace of the 187.37 kHz signals on
your spectra, the effects of the Europe1 broadcast on 183
kHz could be clearly seen and it seems that this part
of the band is fairly quiet between 2300 and 0200 UTC.
I hope to synchronise the transmissions with UTC and
improve the stability and accuracy of the carrier
frequency soon.

Thanks for monitoring!

73
Joe

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil nil nil !......
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>

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Ask and you shall receive - thanks gents for all the responses..
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Hi all,

that explains why my introduction of DI2AM beacon vanished.
Instead of repeating it here a link :     =20

www.seefunk-fx-intern.de

Many thanks to all OM writing here which gave me a good possibility to evalu=
ate the efficiency of the beacon, esp. to GM4SLV.
73 gl cu (hopefully 2way on 600 mtrs in the future)

Joerg, DL3NRV



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>=20
> Hi Vern, attachments are accepted on the LF Group reflector but need to be
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> Cheers de Alan G3NYK


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I've been watching with interest the use of the narrow versions of the
various data modes being used on the 500kHz band, and anyone who reads
RadCom will see the mention I made in the Data Column last month of
the parallel FSK and PSK31 trials..

Joe Taylor, K1JT has written a suite of programmes using
multi-frequency FSK coupled with heavy source coding and forward error
correction for extreme weak signal communications on VHF through to
Microwaves, especially targetted at Tropo, EME and Meteor scatter.
I mention it on this reflector as he has now introduced two new
embryonic modes (JT2 and JT4) that include narrow shift options (a few
tens of Hz overall) that may be well-suited to MF communications.

I suggest a visit to his web site to read up on the modes and
techniques he employs, and download the latest version of WSJT.  The
main web page doesn't mention JT2 / JT4, but the beta version at 5.9.8
is detailed in the links shown here, and experimenters are invited to
download an try it out.   There is quite a lot of description and
theory supplied, and makes for a fascinating read!
The heavy error correction and redundancy adds considerably to the
weak signal capability.

Main WSJT site      http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/
JT2/4 description     http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/JT2_JT4.TXT
Download latest WSJT software
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT598.EXE

I implemented direct DDS-generated JT65B on the GB3VHF 2m beacon a
couple of years ago, and the mode is now being used on the GB3RAL
40/50/60/70.05MHz beacon family.  Details of GB3VHF can be found on my
web page shown below.  Reception reports all agree on the mode's
extreme weak signal capability and a major improvenment over CW alone.
 It will be interesting to see if the narrow band versions have
anything to offer the lower end of the spectrum.

Be aware though, the JT modes do rely on quite accurate timing, and PC
clocks need to be set to within a second or two of each other.

Andy  G4JNT
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Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
good luck with low QRM and QRN.

73
Joe

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
> Last night , nothing here !
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Hi  Jean Pierre,
> >
> > Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Joe ,
> >> I listening tonight
> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> >>
> >>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
> >>>
> >>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
> >>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
> >>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
> >>>
> >>> Joe VO1NA
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of=20=
 start
> >>>> beaconing ?
> >>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  18=
3 kHz 1
> >>>> MW,
> >>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
> >>>>
> >>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
> >>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
> >>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
> >>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Joe VO1NA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
> >> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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Hi LF,

I keep getting very short bursts of the phantom RTTY signal at 503.000khz 
????

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1+J ACT M0FMT M&2!.5 $3 1 (/8+ &3XIZSRFVVM7
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I received this line amongst lots of garbage & there is a call sign we all 
know in there - M0FMT ???

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: [500] RTTY


> On 1 Oct 2007 at 12:45, Graham wrote:
>
>> Its not Me !
>
> Then I guess we need to blame somebody else....
>
> It appeared right on top of John GM4SLV last night when I got the rig
> tuned up to answer his CQ call. Guess the culprit didn't check the
> frequency first (tongue in cheek...).
>
> By the way John I gave you one short call which you obviously didn't
> hear. But then you went down in QSB around 2030z and I went QRT.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
> 



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Hi Brian, LF,

Your normal speed CW good in NW UK at about 1947 utc, capture attached.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Mal, LF,

yesterday I reactivated my 100 kHz Loran monitor and set it up to look for t=
he new signal from Anthorn, assuming it would simply replace Rugby on timesl=
ot 6731-Y. However no trace was seen, neither at the old emission delay posi=
tion (27.3 ms, plus receive path difference), nor anywhere else when searchi=
ng between 6731-X and 6731-Z.

Is the new transmitter operating continuously, or still spaoradically on a t=
est schedule? Is it emitting proper Loran frames at the right repetition rat=
e (ie. spectral lines at 7.4283 Hz multiples)? Can anyone perhaps confirm in=
formation on the emission delay?

Kind regards,
Markus, DF6NM

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: loran


> John,
> Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, whe=
n
> located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me.
> My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will b=
e
> fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more
> or less.
> I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me=20=
in
> the past.
>=20
> MalG3KEV
=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mal, LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yesterday&nbsp;I reactivated my 100 kHz Lor=
an=20
monitor&nbsp;and set it up to look for the new signal from Anthorn, assuming=
 it=20
would simply replace Rugby on timeslot 6731-Y. However no trace&nbsp;was see=
n,=20
neither at the&nbsp;old emission delay position (27.3 ms,&nbsp;plus=20
receive&nbsp;path difference), nor anywhere else when searching between 6731=
-X=20
and 6731-Z.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is the new transmitter operating continuous=
ly, or=20
still spaoradically on a test schedule?&nbsp;Is&nbsp;it emitting&nbsp;proper=
=20
Loran frames at the right repetition rate (ie. spectral lines&nbsp;at 7.4283=
 Hz=20
multiples)? Can anyone perhaps confirm&nbsp;information on the&nbsp;emission=
=20
delay?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kind regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus, DF6NM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "hamilton mal" &lt;</FONT><A   href=
=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>g3kev.ham@vir=
gin.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
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group@blacksheep.org"><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:20=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: LF: Re: Re: loran</FONT></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial   size=3D2>&gt; John,<BR>&gt; Loran is now audible clicking away si=
nce it moved to=20
its new location, when<BR>&gt; located at Rugby it was just about visible bu=
t=20
not audible with me.<BR>&gt; My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West=20=
from=20
me I suppose it will be<BR>&gt; fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from m=
e it=20
was in my loop null, more<BR>&gt; or less.<BR>&gt; I have not carried out an=
y=20
exact measurements, since it did not bother me in<BR>&gt; the past.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; MalG3KEV<BR>&nbsp;<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:50:39 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Graham,
> 
> Your sig just visible at Shetland !!
> 
> Gary.
> 
> 
Here you are Graham and the LF group 


g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n



error free!

I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
into/below the noise.



-- 
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Much noise + qrn, some traces, over the morning good copy of WD2XGJ!

On 189 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Running , but had to  totally remove from the pc and re-load .. odd .. never 
seen it lock before ..

G ...


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> ?? Just found  spec lab wont run on my pc , did last night , tried 
> re-installing , just the same .. any one ealse having problem .. has there 
> been a windows xp-pro update ??
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> Tnx
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> Graham ..
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> 




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Nope, not guilty!

I've just got back from a couple of weeks holiday in Devon. G3WCE is Bruce
Edwards. He used to live near me in Ruislip, but moved away a while ago. I
think he lives in Alan G3NYK's area now.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:46:51 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.
>

Hi Gary,

That's what I was thinking as I heard " G  3  W  C  ..." expecting a
"B" next, even started to write it down as G3WCB in anticipation!

I have some of the CQs recorded on mp3.

He was there for long enough,and at good enough strength to read Q4-5
in the end and it was certainly G3WCE.

Shame I couldn't raise him though.


Cheers again,

John






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Thanks Hartmut for the report and the confirmation of
the frequency as 'close to 187.3703 kHz.'

I hope J-P can copy the sigs soon.  Alan G3NYK says conditions
are good at the moment.

Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Copied 2 "N"s last night. Faint traces were visible until 05:00.
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>


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Don't be put off by the need for house styles etc - if you do look at
the articles that have made it in the past, they were all in the
authors own words.  The peer review is more or less a rubber stamp if
the article in straightforward and constructional- if its about zero
loss magnetic loops that would be a different matter)

As for the need for repeatability, say so.  If you've done a one off
with components from the junk box it still be of interest and that
won't stop the editors / TC, but be prepared for a lot of questions
from constructors

I've been following the way this thread has developed with
considerable interest, and am actually rather pleased that the problem
appears to be worldwide.  Now I do know its not a personal radcomic
thing, but is part of a more general malaise.  Can be assume either
that :

1)

They DO WANT TO PUBLISH TECHNICAL ARTICLES (shouting intentionally)
but as there are so few being written the general trend is to

>I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
>been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
>some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
>provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
>of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
>work first time.... )
>
>
>What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
>not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
>"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
>circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
>experimentation."
>
>The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
>and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
>alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
>component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
>it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!
>
>RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.


On 29/10/2007, Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:
> John, LF,
>
> you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/
>
> If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM
> (W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much
> about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in
> RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the
> legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder
> melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> > BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of
> > SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?
>
>
>


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>
>
> The future of amateur radio may already be behind us. :-(
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
>
Hi Johan, LF
i am afraid that the problem of technical  info  in our hobby magazines  
is only a tiny fraction of a  far more dangerous one , much more 
fundamental.
i have an academic post  with  the university. i give lectures in math  
and quantum chemistry.  there is a dramatic  drop
 in the basic knowledge of math and physics  among students. this 
situation  can be observed  in the recent decade or  so.  Moreover,
it is even a sort of a "fashion" to know almost nothing about  math and 
physics.  when the battery in a pocket calculator dries out it is
almost a 'total disaster' . I am not surprised  that this 'fasion'  
gets  into our radioamateur magazines .
coming back to the main issue. here, in  poland, we have  two magazines  
devoted to our hobby  and it is exactly the same i.e. the number
of ads is growing , there are more and more 'beautiful' pictures  of  
yaesu, icom, kenwood radios  and , at the same time, technical info is  
confined into
5-6 pages out of  about 100 .
the young people across the world  have   mobile phones, PMR's , LPD's  
no licenses  no knowledge needed.. well Johan i am afraid  you are right
                   
                                                                                               
73, peter,   SQ7MPJ
                                                            


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Hi Mal, LF,

After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons 
with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 % 
more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous 
ones.

I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy 
his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried in 
noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
> etc, it is not necessry.
> 73 G3KEV
>
>
>
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Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!

I will correct this error as soon as possible.

I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here than bef=
ore,
at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.

How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to hear o=
r
see signals from them yet.

73's

Paul-Henrik

Quoting uwe-jannsen@versanet.de:

> Hi Paul-Henrik,
> your log indicates that DI2BE transmits on 501kHz.
> but it is and was 505,140.12kHz.
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv
>
> Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:
>
> > Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in
> > OH/KP03SD at
> > 17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once
> during
> > the past week.
> >
> > As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although=
 it
> > would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lac=
k
> of
> > 2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the
> > breaktrough from
> > happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular
> > basis" but
> > your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here.
> > Late night
> > propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with
> > plenty of time
> > for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in
> > normal CW:
> > http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt
> >
> > The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot
> here
> > during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best=20=
for
> > DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over
> noise.
> > That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well
> > aware of
> > the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-m=
eter
> > needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with
> > 10W EMRP if
> > I remeber correctly.
> >
> > So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other
> > countries as
> > well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.
> >
> > 73's
> >
> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD
> >
> > Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:
> >
> >> Hi all
> >> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more
> international
> >> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of=20=
the
> >> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137
> given
> >> that there is some other acty on the band.
> >> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions,
> nothing
> >> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sor=
t
> >> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
> >> de G3KEV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>




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Laurence,

Thanks for the report. I had not planned to run last night, but saw 
Warren's signal, and thought it would be interesting to make some 
comparisons. There will be no WD2XES operation for the next three nights.

John A.


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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:28:53 +0000
Vernon Matheson <vmath@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> 
> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just
> a small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come
> back...will this list only accept text messages and block any type of
> attachments.
> 
> Vern - VE1VDM
> 

Hi Vern,LF

No - the list doesn't block all attachments, but has a size limit of
around 30kB.

Cheers,

John


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137kHz:
The 137 kHz rx was off for about 1 month. It was nice to see some
activity. Copied UA4WPF and DJ6GT.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz:
Very good T/A conditions last night. Copied WD2XSH/17 in CW
23:30-02:01 UTC. The QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 was visible
01:25-05:55 UTC with deep fading periods. Best around 05:40 UTC.
>From the UK copied G0MRF.

Capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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LF Hello!

Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z

Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500kHz
operator list I have.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD

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Hi Pete, LF,

Thanks for confirming that, several of us up here had been getting bursts of 
RTTY but no announcment on LF, when I spotted the bursts I put the RTTY 
decoder on the frequency & the only bits of text I resolved was your call 
sign & a couple of times I read "MW ERP". The bursts I was hearing were no 
more than a few seconds long.

As you probably know, Graham G0NBD & I have been experimenting with various 
data modes, my bit mainly narrow shift RTTY with my class D Tx.

73

Gary - G4WGT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter March" <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
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> Hi all
>
>  OK I can not tell a lie we were testing 45.45 baud 170Hz shift on 503. 
> 20:30 onwards not my transmission however but I was involved.
>  You know my views about 501 has now become a beacon band which really 
> renders it unusable for any thing other than beacons. Especially if there 
> is a local station that insists on being on nonstop 24 hours a day. 
> Luckily its not too bad here but the request for the best type of RX for 
> 501 the other day, I resisted saying the best RX for this band is an Intel 
> Pentium4 PC with a good internet e-mail connection!!!!.......   :-)
>
>  "TEST TEST TEST DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ QTH BIGGLESWADE BIGGLESWADE BEDS 
> BEDS LOC IO92UB IO92UB PWR 65 MW 65 MW ERP INTERNET C.CJO AT 
> BTINTERNET.COM DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ ARKCYQ "
>
>  And if you liswten now you will hear Chris he's on now....
>
>  Pete FMT vy 73



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Sorry I asked lol ... Not sure if thats a 'good' test signal .... ?

I dident have the rx on this eveing, just spotted the end on the grabber 
...s

Tnx - Graham .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:38 PM
Subject: LF: [500] RE: whos on 502 Khz ??


> Graham, LF, Chris,
>
> It's G3XIZ, running RTTY at 45.45 baud 85 Hz shift. Solid copy at this
> location, received with WinWarbler v4.50.
>
> Text received here as follows:-
>
> "
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
> LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
> G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
> G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
> G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
> G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
>
> G3GRO   DEREK   CRAWLEY
> G3JFS   PETER   PLYMOUTH
> G3KEV   MAL     SCARBOROUGH
> G3KZU   MIKE    OXFORD
> G3NZP   MALCOLM CRAWLEY
> G3OLD   TOM     HONITON
> G3ROO   IAN     DOVER
> G3UNT   BRIAN   MAIDSTONE
> G3VTT   COLIN   ROCHESTER
> G3WCB   DAVE    SLOUGH
> G3WCE   BRUCE   NORWICH
> G3XAQ   ALAN    CANTERBURY
> G3XBM   ROGER   CAMBRIDGE
> G3XIZ   CHRIS   BIGGLESWADE
> G3XVL   CHRIS   IPSWICH
> G3YMC   DAVE    BRACKNELL
> G3YVF   GEOFF   CHATHAM
> G3YXM   DAVE    BIRMINGHAM
> G4ADR   NIGEL   OXFORD
> G4DMP   DAVID   LEEDS
> G4GDR   ADRIAN  SWINDON
> G4WGT   GARY    COPPULL
> GI3PDN  RAY     BALLYCLARE
> GI4DPE  FINBAR  DERRY
> GM4ISM  MARK
> GM4SLV  JOHN    SHETLAND
> GWGEUEP  ROG     CARDIGAN
> GW4HXO  MIKE    HAVERFORDWEST
> M0BMU   JIM     HATFIELD
> M0FMT   PETER   HOLWELL
> M0KHW   KEN     LUTON
>
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ K
> DE G3XIZ G3XIZ G3XIZ
>
> LIST OF STATIONS BELIEVED HOLDING 500 KHZ NOV:
> G0MRF   DAVID   HOUNSLOW
> G0NBD   GRAHAM  LIVERPOOL
> G3AQC   LAURIE  CHICHESTER
> G3DXZ   CHAS    RETFORD
> etc, etc.
> "
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
> Sent: 20 October 2007 23:16
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: whos on 502 Khz ??
>
>
> Just noticed what looks like rtty , 502 at Bham grabber ?
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 




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I've also noticed the trend, my renewal came up a couple of weeks ago and i
agonised as to whether it was still worth having. I decided to continue
ONLY to support the RSGB for what it does for us in the wider arena, not
for any expectation of the content of RADCOM. Yesterday I read radcom on
the train, after about 10 minutes I had read all I found interesting in it.=20

peter G8AFN

Original Message:
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From: Andy Talbot andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:52:49 +0100
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RADCOM


My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(

Andy  G4JNT


On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> >
> > G3KEV
> >
> >
> Hi Mal
>
> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> read, so little time!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>



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Hello LF,

A good night on 500, with several people making many first class
QSOs on CW - including my first MF QSO with Colin G3VTT, which was a 
great thrill.

I eventually had to retire to bed though!

I sent my "beacon" (or "initial call" - hi!) signal overnight to give
something for others to hear.


In the past few days I've received reports from several stations, 2 of
them have been new to 500 listening, enthusing about hearing something
on 500. Without the "pseudo-beacons" they'd tune right past, assuming
the band was dead.

Now they know that some good work is going on here, will come back to 
hear real QSOs and......might even get involved!

This is a "very good thing"!!



This morning I received a very nice email from a listener
in Scandinavia, extracts of which I'll quote below:-

>> You do a great job guys, keep the good signals coming on 500!

>> NOV licensees can't make QSO's 24/7/365 so that there would be 
>> something on the air to monitor for the others without a key to 
>> grab.


On the overnight "beacons" :

>> I find it great that other people can listen in when they have time
>>  for it and condx happens to show it's shiny side.

>> As opposed to 505.1 one may be rewarded with hearing some real 
>> action too from time to time. It's not just about UK-UK QSO's in 
>> the end. The whole Europe is listening for your signals


This type of message makes it all worthwhile for me. He is typical of
most people... they like to hear real QSOs, but are glad of ANY signal
on the band that may be there when they get a few minutes in the shack. 
It is also a reminder that we are in a very special position in the UK, 
and our use of the band is of great interest to other European countries 
too. Let's give them something to listen out for....!


Another take on "beacons"....

My grabber is used by many people - to see the state of the band, or to
check their own signals. By sending a long "initial call" (or "beacon")
they can follow the signal here as it rises and falls in the QSB. This
allows for near-real time propagation experiments when no QSO partner
can be found.

Of course a QSO would add greatly to the value, as questions can be 
asked and answered and changes to power etc. made, but we can't always 
be as lucky as we were last night!


Real "DX" station in VE and W are also trying to hear us, to see what
the chances of transatlantic working would be given better power and
wider availability of access. A publicized long "initial call" is a 
great assistance to them. They can listen at the best time for 
propagation (ie when we're all in bed!) and will know what frequency to 
concentrate on.



We can all argue over the legal niceties of "beacons", as applied to our 
activities, but where there's good and valuable work to be done and 
enthusiastic people to do it there's always a way, within the confines 
of the current rules. It just depends on how you interpret them ;-)



A great night on 500.

QSOs galore and beneficial effects from the "beacons" too.

The best of both worlds surely?

I'll end with this...

One email received this morning from another new 500 listener in
GM-land, reporting my "beacon" said:

>> Good luck, true Amateur Radio.

What more can I say?

Keep up the good work guys.

Best regards,

John GM4SLV


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.... Lol=20

Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the locator square ? , altitu=
de ? i was just wondering , exactly where the signal go's , as it never show=
s too well at Bham but allways gets  to  shetland !

fine on the musical sound , yes I think the system is a pinch from 'piccolo'=
 system, but the results looked better than the strait rtty and psk, problem=
 is , its a bit like having the first telephone ... no one to  call :-)

later in the week, I'll try  olivia ~ amtor/fec  as the latter can be genara=
ted using a simple 'fsk' modulator driven by , say , a pk232=20

Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:01 PM
  Subject: RE: LF: Re: Olivia data test


  Late report - Graham - It was also good audible copy here on the Derbyshir=
e/Nottinghamshire border. Very musical
  =20
  73=20
  Laurence G4DMA mobile
  > >=20
  > > Gary.
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > Here you are Graham and the LF group=20
  >=20
  >=20
  > g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl
  > g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com
  > cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0n
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  > error free!
  >=20
  > I've used Olivia a few times on 20m and it's great right down
  > into/below the noise.
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  > --=20
  > John GM4SLV
  > IP90gg
  > Clousta, Shetland
  >=20
  >=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>.... Lol </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Well thats a new type of report hihi ... whats the l=
ocator=20
square ? , altitude ? i was just wondering , exactly where the signal go's ,=
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it never shows too well at Bham but allways gets &nbsp;to&nbsp; shetland=20
!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>fine on the musical sound , yes I think the system i=
s a=20
pinch from 'piccolo' system, but the results looked better than the strait r=
tty=20
and psk, problem is , its a bit like having the first telephone ... no one=20
to&nbsp; call :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>later in the week, I'll try&nbsp; olivia ~ amtor/fec=
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as the latter can be genarated using a simple 'fsk' modulator driven by , sa=
y ,=20
a pk232 </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com     href=3D"mailto:hellozerohell=
ozero@hotmail.com">Laurence KL1X</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacks=
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:01=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Re: Olivia data=20
  test</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Late report - Graham - It was also good audible&nbsp;copy h=
ere=20
  on the Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire border. Very musical<BR>&nbsp;<BR>73=20
  <BR>Laurence G4DMA mobile<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Gary.<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; Here you are Graham and the LF group <BR>&gt; <BR>&=
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  <BR>&gt; g0nbd qsl <A href=3D"mailto:g0nbd@hotmail.com">g0nbd@hotmail.com<=
/A>=20
  cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl<BR>&gt; <A     href=3D"mailto:g0nbd@hotm=
ail.com">g0nbd@hotmail.com</A> cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd=20
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  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; error free!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've used Olivia a=
 few=20
  times on 20m and it's great right down<BR>&gt; into/below the noise.<BR>&g=
t;=20
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt; John GM4SLV<BR>&gt; IP90gg<BR>&gt;=20
  Clousta, Shetland<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>
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Hi LF,

Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong and 
audible using normal morse (CW).

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Just a thought you could use the divide chip as a DAC  and generate a
stepwise sinewave and then filter ??

Alan G3NYK

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> Mal,
>
> The harmonic content of a divider's rectangular waveform would be a
> problem for the wideband detector circuitry in the analyzer. The
> waveform is typically not an issue for a classic bridge with a receiver
> for a detector, as the harmonics are ignored.
>
> If you could incorporate a good low pass filter to take out the third
> harmonic and above, then your idea should work.
>
> John A.
>
> hamilton mal wrote:
> > Tnx Warren for the prompt reply and also all the others that responded,
much
> > appreciated.
> > One approach that I had in mind was an outboard bit of hardware like a
> > divider that fed the ant socket of the mfj 259 b and for instance use
the
> > 4 - 10  mhz range, divide by 10 to give 400 - 1000 khz (500 khz band).
Has
> > anyone seen a cct along these lines.
>



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Dear all,

after reading this below about the improving autumn winter conditions I
also decided to give it a try, and around midnight UTC 3rd to 4th of
October 2007 I received the GI4DPE beacon on
(about) 501,4 kHz audible up to 449 in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria, Germany.


Best aerial was a single turn wire loop with a circumference of about
15 meters pointing north (installed for SAQ reception). Slight fading,
due
to QRN I needed some
time until all letters were repeatedly received correct.

The beacon signal disappeared at about 00.25 UTC and did not return
within the next half hour. 

This is the first station under the british NOV rule which I could
receive by ear. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

<phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Copied GM4SLV beacon aural-CW Q3 at 19.08UTC with fast QSB
> 
> BR
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> KP03SD, Vaasa, Finland
> 
> 
> 



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How about the strange new appearances? I was intrigued by 'Radio Sports' and
had visions of pole vaulting with 136KHz verticals, throwing the FT817 and
weight lifting with the R-390. But no, just more contests.....

73s
Paul   g8gja

-----Original Message-----
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My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(

Andy  G4JNT


On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
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> > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> >
> > G3KEV
> >
> >
> Hi Mal
>
> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> read, so little time!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on 501.5kHz. He was=20=
a Q3
copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.

As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another QS=
O. A
QRZ at Q5 was called a few 100Hz below.

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






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Zitat von John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:


>
> There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as
> beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving
> conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather
> than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows.
>
Hello John,
p.e. DI2BE "will only ever be active as beacon" because it is not an amateur-
station. thats what the permit/licence expresses.
gl and thanks for the grabber.
Uwe/dj8wx/j043sv




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Dear John,

last night your and Finbar's signals were not as clear as the night
before, but I guess we will have to live with such variations until
(hopefully) You will be allowed more ERP.

I will continue to observe the 500 kHz band, although not report every
day. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
> On 15 Oct 2007 23:34 GMT
> hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de wrote:
> 
> > Dear all, 
> > 
> > just heard (by earphone) around 23.00 to 23.25UTC Oct 15, 200 Hz
> > apart, GI4DPE and GM4SLV beaconing in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, at
> > 501,4 kHz and 501,6 kHz (according to my dial). Both stations have
> > some QSB, GI4DPE more often than GM4SLV, but both signals peak about
> > the same level.
> > 
> > Aerial is an untuned T, 10 meters high. 
> > 
> > As I have heard GI4DPE before some times, this seems to become a
> > regular possibility in autumn and winter nights.
> > 
> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the great report Ha-Jo! This is very pleasing. The distance
> is around 1500km. I'm interested that Finbar's signal had more QSB, but
> that we were both similar in peaks!
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm
> 
> John
> 
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
> 
> 
> 



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Last night two GI stns active on beacon and the interestingt part was the
variations in strength. GI4DPE increased in strength to 599 as the night
progressed and remained fairly steady but some other nights the signal goes
from S9 to zero for brief periods.
GI3PDN signal peaked the odd time to S8 but the QSB was severe on this
signal all of the time that I listened.
It seems propagation on 500 changes daily or hourly,  some vy strong signals
at times and other times signals are barely readable.
This applies both day and night.

73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Hi Paul-henrik
Thats a great name for CW hid
If you could get an antenna up for 80 or 40m it would be great for xband and
other UK stations would also be interested in a xband QSO.
73 and tnx the report
Mal/G3KEV

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Again, very beautiful early signals from UK on 500.

16.43z G3KEV calling X-band CQ on 502.5kHz at S0.5 over noise, a perfect
easy
copy. QSX announced for 3533 and 7033kHz. Sadly it is not possible for me to
reply on either QRG as my only wire-antenna span is in use for RX on 500.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD



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Here  here.
   
  I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh?
   
  73 petefmt

hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
  Hi all
Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160
m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.
The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all
about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put
this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be
any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance
operator, bar a few who can work CW.
Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance of
working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode
and no chance for a QSO.
Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same
wayt as 136 khz DEAD
Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500
has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.


de G3KEV





       
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<div>Here&nbsp; here.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>hamilton mal &lt;g3kev.ham@virgin.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi all<BR>Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160<BR>m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.<BR>The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all<BR>about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put<BR>this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be<BR>any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance<BR>operator, bar a few who can work CW.<BR>Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance
 of<BR>working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode<BR>and no chance for a QSO.<BR>Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same<BR>wayt as 136 khz DEAD<BR>Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500<BR>has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.<BR><BR><BR>de G3KEV<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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A night of 'short' beeps for a change ,  hihi.

Most signals peaked round the S5 yourself and ray gi4pdn  , also  g3ldo, 
looks like i missed the other two stations

G ..



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> Hello LF
>
> I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> light pollution!
>
> I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
>
> Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
>
> G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
>
> and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
>
> Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
>
> My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
>
>
> I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> ongoing somewhere within radio range.
>
> Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
>
> -- 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
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Frank,

I am seeing a keyed carrier on 136.3205 at 2315 UTC. I will keep watching.

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Hello all,

I had posted this on the NDB list but thought it might be of interest to
some of you 500khz folks.

GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc.
Transatlantic conditions were very good at the time with the Irish DGPS
station in Mizen Head copied as well as Irish NDB FNR-402.

Receiver - R75
Antennas - 2000' unterminated wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire N/S
Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 400hz center
Software - Spectran / Argo

I will keep watching for others as conditions improve

Best regards,

Vernon - VE1VDM


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<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Hello all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>I had posted this on the NDB 
list but thought it might be of interest to some of you 500khz 
folks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>GI4DPE on 501.316 khz was 
copied in FN85ki on Oct 8, 2007 @ 0211utc. Transatlantic conditions were very 
good at the time with the Irish DGPS station in Mizen Head copied as well as 
Irish NDB&nbsp;FNR-402.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Receiver - 
R75</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Antennas - 2000' unterminated 
wire E/W and a 1000' unterminated wire&nbsp;N/S </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Audio Filter - 6hz wide with 
400hz center</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Software - Spectran / 
Argo</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>I will keep watching for others 
as conditions improve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Best 
regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921065221-09102007><FONT size=2>Vernon - 
VE1VDM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Mal,

who is to blame ?
Does Radcom refuse to publish technical articles to keep more space 
for adds and "fairy tales" ?
Or is there not enough entry of technical articles?

I am closely cooperating with the editor of the UBA magazine 
(CQ-QSO), every time it is a struggle to enough "input" to fill the 
magazine with interesting stuff.

73, Rik  ON7YD


At 10:55 25/10/2007, you wrote:
>Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
>after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. The
>actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
>magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
>and very little construction projects.
>If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
>ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. Some
>thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
>technology.
>Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd tech
>article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
>favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
>Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
>being published.
>Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
>systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
>Does anyone else have an opinion.
>Mal/G3KEV


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Your beacon has been Q3 to Q5 for a good while here now about 200Hz above
Finbar. Finbar is a tad stronger. Good signals!



Quoting Michael Probert <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>:

> Many thanks Paul- Henrik/Graham/Gary,
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> Was wkg F6BWO and F6CNI cross band on 3533kHZ with the help of GI4DPE.
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> Now running beacon on 501.6 for OK2BVG
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> Received GW4HXO in QSO with ? sending his 73's 20.50UTC on 501.5kHz. He wa=
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> copy with QSB. QRB is 2008km.
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> As I'm writing this he is an even better copy in QSB peaks having another
> QSO. A
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> QRZ at Q5 was called a few 100Hz below.
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> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hello Joe ,

Hi Listening last night , nothing !!!
I am late on my projects! (preoccupation with a health)
but I will make for best for the synthetizer in the month which follows
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

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> at 10 metres height. Reports most welcomed.
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Thanks for that Alan!

On the visual Au front. Last year wasn't too good for them but 2 or 3 
years ago there seemed to be a good number of them nicely spread over 
the mid-winter. Last night's display was the second one I've seen so far 
this winter, and it's only October. Hopefully there will be more to see.

Perhaps 6 years ago we had an excellent Au season. Sometimes the display 
was bright enough to be visible from inside the house through the 
window. One memorable night we were all at the pub (no connection to 
seeing lights in the sky) and were keeping a regular Au watch after 
several previous good displays. I went out to observe the northern sky 
and was disappointed to see nothing. Turning around to return to the 
warm bar I faced due south and saw an amazing display, red/green 
curtains shimmering, in the southern sky! We were actually looking at 
the rear end of the auroral oval as the annular ring sank further south. 
I think it was seen as far south as France that night. That night we 
kept watch from within the pub, as its picture windows face south...

Cheers,

John



On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Alan Melia wrote:

> Hi Dave, yes indeed.
> 
> There are two main sources of geomagnetic storm "stimulation". The first is
> the well known Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that emanate from the area of
> sun-spots and are usually associated with flares,but can be ejected by some
> non-flare proceses as well. These are common at the Solar max when the
> Sun-spot count is, of course, high. The type of shock we experienced the
> other day which caused the aurora and and has been happening at irregular
> intervals throughout these quiet years is known as a "coronal hole event"
> this is a "tear" in the solar atmosphere which results in the spin off of
> coronal material (Hydrogen ions and electrons), much the same as the
> background "solar wind" The presence of a coronal hole is like somone in the
> garden with a hose being called from the house and swinging round drenching
> everyone as the spray sweeps round. The speed of the cooronal hole flow is 2
> or three times the speed of the normal solar wind so it causes a magnetic
> shock to the geomagnetic field. Some of the plasma, mainly Hydrogen ions and
> electrons are able to enter the earths field at the poles, spiralling down
> the lines of force to create the magical auroral "curtains" described by
> John.
> 
> All is not over however as the rest of the "spray" sweeps by and some is
> sucked into the magnetic "tail" of the Earth's field a bit like when you
> drive a hatchback with the tail-gate slightly open and the exhaust fumes
> enter the car. These ions and electrons are drawn back into the Equatorial
> Ring Current in the Van Allen Belt and form a reservoir of "hot" electrons
> which are bled into the ionosphere at the sunrise edge where the earth's
> field is distorted by the pressure of the solar wind. These diffuse down
> into the D-layer are "hot" and long lived, and give the excess night-time
> attenuation experienced at LF after a "magnetic storm". This even persists
> for days after the Kp index has returned to normal low or quiet levels.
> After severe storms the ring current can be so highly populated that LF
> signals can often be depressed for 3 or 4 weeks. This generally only happens
> around the Solar max. and after Kp=9 events.
> 
> Phew.....well you DID ask Dave !!
> 
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Visual Aurora and good condx
> 
> 
> > On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:
> >
> > > Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> > > pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> > > The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> > > things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> > > present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> > > may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.
> >
> > Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at
> > the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been
> > at rock bottom for weeks on end?
> >
> > Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A
> > index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is
> > currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.
> >
> > But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening
> > all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys
> > playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in
> > the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.
> >
> > What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do
> > with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to
> > produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art
> > (and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).
> >
> > By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night
> > but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far.
> > Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep
> > QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray
> > at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting
> > 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).
> >
> > Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band
> > configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if
> > we still have NOVs.
> >
> > 73 Dave G3YMC
> >
> > http://www.davesergeant.com
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Dear all,

heard GM4SLV beaconing again around 23.30 UTC and 0.25 UTC on 501,6 kHz,
weak, but could be identified by ear.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> Alberto,
> 
> that kind of connector is still available and is called
> "Micro Ribbon". 14, 24, 36 and 50 pole versions are common.

Johan,

   thank you indeed. If I won't be able to find the cable already made, I will order the connectors from that Swedish 
firm and wire it myself (it will take some patience...)

---------------

 > Hi Alberto
 >
 > If it is 24 pins perhaps a GPIB cable would do the job?
 >
 > regards
 >
 > Nigel

  Nigel,

   thanks to you too. Indeed the connector is identical to a GPIB connector, but with a subtle difference. The GPIB 
connector has two small bolts on the sides, allowing two connectors to be stacked and bolted together.
This connector instead has two "ears", meant to be latched to the wire retaining clamps present on the female connector
on the instrument's panel.

Probably a GPIB cable could be used, but without any provision to firmly seat the connectors in place.

TNX es 73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Warren,

> Hartmut,
>> The new ones heard last night:
>   Are these NDB's ?
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS

yes, send to the wrong list. Sorry.

73
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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj






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Hi Mal,
I share your frustration at the lack of Component adverts - but I think the 
series of "Homebrew" articles by Eamon Skelton EI9GQ has been brilliant.

If you look at a magazine like Dubus, the content seems much more technical.
One of my grumbles is the size of the photographs - particularly the insides 
of equipment. You will often get a lovely big picture of a group of 
amateurs, alongside of a microscopic image of the equipment they were using.
Or the reviews of new radios will have inside views, but so small as you 
can't see any detail - what use is that ?

How did people ever find the TIME to do all this building, I don't seem to 
have time to even do any operating !
There's no doubt about it, nostalgia just ain't what it used to be ...
Radio is a very diverse hobby, I'm sure there are many who enjoy reading the 
"league tables" and contest reports, it's all amateur radio. Not everybody 
is interested in building things ... shame.

Hugh M0WYE



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: RADCOM


> Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
> after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. 
> The
> actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
> magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
> and very little construction projects.
> If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
> ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. 
> Some
> thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
> technology.
> Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd 
> tech
> article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
> favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
> Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
> being published.
> Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and 
> antenna
> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
> Does anyone else have an opinion.
> Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> 



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LF,

Last night I had great trouble with the antenna tuning - match varying
wildly. Today in the light of day I can see why.

2 of the sloping capcity wires have come adrift from their supporting
guys and are flapping free, still connected to the apex of the
vertical. No wonder it was hard to keep tuned!

I'll be unable to repair it until Tuesday, as XYL and me are off the
island from tomorrow for the weekend (she's running inthe Loch Ness
Marathon in Inverness).

The grabber is still available.



I've added some more pics and sound clips of signals received (both
here and from further afield) to my developing 500 web-pages.

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500.htm


Cheers,

John


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Sri - we're being rather parochial.  Radcom is the magazine of the
RSGB, for members only.  It used to be half full of  technical
articles with the rest made up of operating, news and events.   Now it
seems to be all about events, people, HF contesting, amateur radio
celebrities and holiday photographs; what technical stuff it pretends
to include under that category consists of a beginners / homebrew
column, which to be fair is very good - if you're a beginner!  There
is a regular column which has the audacity to be called "Technical
Topics" but is more of a nostalgia trip for its writer and ought to be
called radio history.  Another column "In Practice" often carries the
only circuit diagrams to be found in some months' issues.  There are
some other regular columns which were originally meant to be operating
based, but some of the authors of those (I'm one) include mainly
technical matters to try to make up for the rest of the magazine.
What is lacking, and gives the magazine its boring image is the lack
in recent years of full blown constructional or technical articles.

As someone who took to writing technical articles for magazines about
a decade ago, and have written quite a few since, all I can say is
give it a go.   I found that the real difficulty to producing any
article is making the start.  If you are writing about something
you've done, and completed to your satisfaction, once the first bit is
started the  words will flow.   Diagrams and cross references
generally take up the most time (and cause most errors).   Diagrams
are always redrawn so you don't have to be too particular about
supplying neat ones.

In particular, they are interested in the shorter weekend project,
typically one to two pages (1000 - 2000 words approx) and the largest
likely to get into print these days runs to 4 pages - that appears to
be a dictate from high and does preclude some really good big things.

Anything submitted to Radcom these days has to be passed by the RSGB's
Technical Committee (TC), and they usually offer a few helpful
comments if any changes are needed.   The editor himself is an
experienced writer, and can, if needed, make a superb job of editing
the English / grammar etc.  My first experience of Giles was when the
article on the Bell Hill microwave beacons had to be cut from 6 to 4
pages.   (Considering we'd already had a very intensive editing
session to get th eoriginal size down as requested by TC, he managed
to reduce the size by a further 33% without losing anything of the
content).

Enough of that parochial rant, this reflector isn't really the place,
we should be trying to influence the Board / editors really.  But
there are a lot of subscribers to this reflector who do produce
interesting technical stuff, and the magazine does have a dearth of
stuff.   Give writing a try - it gets very addictive after a while.

Andy  G4JNT


On 25/10/2007, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> very stupid question - is RadCom a (online) magazine? How can i get access?
>
> many thanks
> vy73
> Marco
> DD7PC
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> Sent: 25 October 2007 16:03
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> Subject: Re: 500 LF: RADCOM
>
>
>
> Thank you Andy.
>
> I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced
> recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and
> found not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up call.
> There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when technical
> articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to appear.
> I wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being
> published?
> Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an individual
> and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to give
> 500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.
> 1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering but
> without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks and
> a binocular microscope to build it.
> 2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key components
> for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
>
> This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG and
> Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no
> comercial equipment exists.
> Of course, something working against this process at present is that 500kHz
> is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
> Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be
> nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
> Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?   Something software
> definable?
> Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
>
> Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond
> 03/08.
>
> So many things to do, so little time.
>
> 73
>
> David  G0MRF
>
> In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,
> andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:
> How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
> tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?
>
> Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
> is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
> sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
> were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
> Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>


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Dear Gary, LF,

Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna,
re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power 200
RF, giving 1,5A aerial current.

No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint
lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: Re: loran


Hi Mal, LF,

After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons
with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 %
more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous
ones.

I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly copy
his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried in
noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. I
> did see one UK stn active  on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal.
> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs 500
> etc, it is not necessry.
> 73 G3KEV
>
>
>
>




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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> So enough of the bickering, RadCom has to cater for a wide range of 
> interests.

I agree about the "wide range of interests" but, along with seemingly 
many here, I find the "wide range of interests" it caters for to be 
mundane, simplistic and on the whole non-technical. 

This is (meant to be) a technical, experimental, educational, 
semi-scientific hobby. RADCOM rarely reflects this.

The many, many pages of adverts, all for the same selection of (mainly 
Japanese) electronic trickery-pokery black-boxes indicate just who the 
target audience is. Certainly not the sort that pull out their 
junk-boxes and knock together a station to activate a band like 500kHz.

Mal called for us to get off the fence and express our thoughts on the 
subject. That's my tuppence worth.... now back to the serious business.

BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of 
SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts? I'm not interested in 
QRO per-se but a periodical containing articles about more complex, 
larger or higher power gear done in the style of SPRAT would make a 
great read, don't you think?

Cheers,

John



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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
23:30=>03:30  WD2XGJ

On 187 kHz :
Nil

The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 J-P f1afj





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Hi all
Since 500 was authorised in the UK it does not seem to be attracting the 160
m fraternity, who have all the expertise and knowledge and good CW skills.
The predominent mode on 160 is CW and some SSB. These operators know all
about antenna design, propagation, and operating techniques and could put
this information towards developing 500 khz, but there does not seem to be
any attraction towards this band, instead it seems to attract the appliance
operator, bar a few who can work CW.
Today I observed ONE rtty stn, one CW stn, one PSK stn, with no chance of
working each other, what is the point. Others heard were on BEACON only mode
and no chance for a QSO.
Except things change I cannot see this band lasting, it will go the same
wayt as 136 khz  DEAD
Look at 160 currently and it is full of acty, mostly CW and DX galore.500
has the same potential but does not have the same calibre of operator.


de G3KEV




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http://www.here-now.org/shows/2007/10/20071025_13.asp

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73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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Hartmut, Jean-Pierre and group,

Thank-you very much for the reports.  It seems from
Hartmut's traces that the seagulls are gone and the
stability is much better.  There are fragments of
an N in the middle of the trace and the timing
is consistent with what was sent, confirming the sigs
came from here.

73
Joe

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the very interesting capture.  After John reported
the frequency as 187.37043 kHz the DDS was scaled back about 140 mHz.
Double precision variables were used in the software to do the scaling
so it should be close.  If so, the signals should appear on 187.3703
as they do on your capture.  It looks very promising!

Sorry for the guessing about the TX frequency and thanks to John for
the accurate benchmarks.  If anybody has an Rb standard and is considering
parting with it, please let me know!

73
Joe

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
>
> Last night , if I trust the capture of John, on the NA frequency there
> is a trace at 05:10 (see Capt_96) it is perhaps a beginning ??.
> The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>
>
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> > Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
> > has been improved by the latest changes and this should
> > improve your chances of reception.
> >
> > Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
> >> The captures of night are at :
> >> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> >> 73 J-P f1afj
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:46:51 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> There's Dave, G3WCB I worked on 136 KHz, I wonder if it is he.
> 

Hi Gary,

That's what I was thinking as I heard " G  3  W  C  ..." expecting a
"B" next, even started to write it down as G3WCB in anticipation! 

I have some of the CQs recorded on mp3.

He was there for long enough,and at good enough strength to read Q4-5
in the end and it was certainly G3WCE.

Shame I couldn't raise him though.


Cheers again,

John



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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for sending the synthesiser.  I will be
happy when it arrives.  The photos and instructions
have been received, but I am not sure how to code
it. For example, in the XLS file is: Divide by: 9678/
Frequency 187.374/  VCO 5995.956. How do we program
the divide by 9678?

Hopefully you will see the signals in the near future.

Merci beaucoup.
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
> Not listened to the 137 khz ,
> it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
> sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
> so that I can bring it into service.
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
>
>

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My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.

Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(

Andy  G4JNT


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> Hi Mal
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> I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> read, so little time!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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When I joined the RSGB in 1961, the Bulletin appeared on about the 15th of t=
he month it was dated.  Now it appears on about the 20th of the preceding mo=
nth.  As long as it gets here by the first of the month I shall be happy.

73 John F5VLF/G3PAI

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>Hi Mal
>
>I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
>was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
>read, so little time!
>
>Cheers,
>
>John






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Ga LF.

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I was up at the HF Convention at Wyboston yesterday. Very enjoyable 
day and the new venue is fine, the only criticism was that the 
lecture rooms were too small (which I gather they are going to remedy 
next year).

Apart from a chat with Alan G3NYK I saw nobody else from the LF/MF 
crowd - but did see Derek G3HEJ who says he will be QRV on 500k soon. 
Conspicuous by its absence was the LF station, unless it was buried 
in a room I never found. Were there any plans for a station this 
year?

All the LF/MF talks were scheduled for today though so maybe there 
were some of the regulars there today. Would be interested in 
feedback, hopefully those lectures were standing room as well?

By the way I just had a listen down on 500kHz, Finbar GI4DPE was 599, 
gave him a couple of calls but clearly didn't hear me. Then found 
Chris G3XIZ calling me so we had a nice chat (and he moaned there was 
no HFC station for him to work...). Stonely silence down there again 
now apart from the beacons.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thank you Andy.
 
I had wondered why my enthusiasm to read RadCom had been somewhat reduced  
recently. Then after Andy's mail I looked through the current edition and found  
not a single constructional article.  Thank you for the wake up call.
There was a time when, certainly when Mike G3XDV was editor, when technical  
articles were backed up and you had to wait months for something to appear. I  
wonder if that is still the case but that they are just not being  published?
Re 500kHz.  Sourcing parts for a project is a big problem for an  individual 
and although this is a personal opinion. I think anyone wishing to  give 
500kHz a shove towards popularity needs to do 2 things.  
1) Design a transmitter that represents a moderately 21st engineering  but 
without including so many extras you need a mortgage or a several weeks and  a 
binocular microscope to build it.
2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key components  
for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.
 
This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WDG  and 
Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no  
comercial equipment exists.
Of course, something working against this process at present is that 500kHz  
is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.
Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be  
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.
Standalone CW TX ?   Transmit converter from HF?    Something software 
definable?
Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.
 
Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyond  
03/08.
 
So many things to do, so little time.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF
 
In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,  
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:

How  about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
tabloid route  the Radcomic is taking?

Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned  about the route the comic
is moving, but I get the feeling he is being  pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
sorry the Board.   The two job titles  that used to run the magazine
were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"   now   they are "Managing
Editor" and  "Features  Editor" .  That sez it all!

Andy   G4JNT







   

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and=20
a binocular microscope to build it.</DIV>
<DIV>2) Having done that, be prepared to invest in some PCBs and key compone=
nts=20
for the design. Or be prepared to supply complete kits.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This process has worked well for the microwave operator with G4DDK G3WD=
G=20
and Andy all producing reliable designs giving access to bands where no=20
comercial equipment exists.</DIV>
<DIV>Of course, something working against this process at present is that 50=
0kHz=20
is only with us at the 100mW level and the NOV is limited to March 2008.</DI=
V>
<DIV>Maybe, if that sitaution changes.....1W and permanent access would be=20
nice....then the designs and kits will appear.</DIV>
<DIV>Standalone CW TX ?&nbsp;&nbsp; Transmit converter from HF?&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Something software definable?</DIV>
<DIV>Maybe a simple DDS that could generate CW or PSK or FSK modulation.</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Plenty of ideas on the wish list, but only if the band carries on beyon=
d=20
03/08.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>So many things to do, so little time.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 25/10/2007 09:44:49 GMT Standard Time,=20
andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT    style=3D"=
BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>How=20
  about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling<BR>tabloid r=
oute=20
  the Radcomic is taking?<BR><BR>Giles (editor)&nbsp; himself is a bit conce=
rned=20
  about the route the comic<BR>is moving, but I get the feeling he is being=20
  pushed by the RSGB Mafia,<BR>sorry the Board.&nbsp;&nbsp; The two job titl=
es=20
  that used to run the magazine<BR>were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"&nbsp=
;=20
  &nbsp; now&nbsp;&nbsp; they are "Managing<BR>Editor" and&nbsp; "Features=20
  Editor" .&nbsp; That sez it all!<BR><BR>Andy&nbsp;=20
G4JNT<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>   </BODY></HTML>

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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, hamilton mal wrote:

> I have been doing well xband 500/3533/7033 so far with 11 countries worked

Hello LF, Mal,

Encouraged by Mal's posting I've tried calling "CQ QSX 3533khz" on a 
couple of occasions. I was called last weekend by Mike G3GMS near 
Cullercoats (where I sat my PO morse test all those years ago!) and just 
yesterday I had a x-band QSO with Hans LA2EG in Bergen.
It's odd to think, but Hans has been my closest 500kHz QSO to date, at 
only 230 miles....! 

It says something when an LA station is a "local" and a GM is DX.

Will try to look for more foreign stations on 3533. I have no TX 
capability on anything other than 500 - only one TX antenna - but my 
PA0RDT "mini-whip" feeding a K2 works nicely on top-band and 80m in 
receive.

Cheers,

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OOPS actidently hit send on the earlier post, this is how the previous
posting should have been...

Johan's and John's comments both copied below say it all.

Don't be put off by the need for house styles etc - if you do look at
the articles that have written it in the past, they were all in the
authors' own words with a little editorial help occasionally.  The
peer review is more or less a rubber stamp if the article in
straightforward and constructional - (if, for example, it happened to
be about about zero loss infinitely small magnetic loops that would be
a different matter :-)

As for the need for repeatability, say so.  If you've done a one-off
with components from the junk box it is more than likely to be of
interest still, and that  won't stop the editors / TC;  but be
prepared for a lot of questions, some silly, some sensible,  from
constructors

 I've been following the way this thread has developed with
considerable interest, and am actually rather pleased that the problem
appears to be worldwide.  Now I do know its not a personal Radcomic
thing, but is part of a more general malaise.

So which of these are valid, I wonder :

1)  No one is actually doing anything interesting technically, so
there is nothing to publish.

2)  With the appearance of really advanced commercial kit taht
couldn't be home-made, constructors are losing confidence in their own
abilities, so are afraid to show what they are doing in case others
ridicule it.

3)  No technical articles published = "They don't want to publish
technical stuff" = "Its not much point sending anything in, then"

4)  Technical articles are being written, but placed on personal web
sites and not properly distributed.

1)  1) is clearly rubbish.
2) I know can be a bit worrying, but discussion amongst other
like-minded people soon shows that what appears to be really high tech
IS NOT.  Its just throwing a lot of money and development time at a
simple problem to make it smaller and more GUI-fied
3)  Well ... we see it hapenning.
4)  There's something in this, too.  But it does lead to a very small
select audience, and you don't get paid for it.

They DO WANT TO PUBLISH TECHNICAL ARTICLES (shouting intentionally),
but can't if nothing gets written-up.   Positive feedback is setting
in, and we're going to end up with 'comic content hitting the supply
rails with nothing more than contest results and amateur-radio
celebrities.  Alternativly, it could go unstable - any ideas where
that could lead?

Andy  G4JNT

www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


>
> >I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
> >been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
> >some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
> >provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
> >of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
> >work first time.... )
> >
> >
> >What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
> >not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
> >"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
> >circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
> >experimentation."
> >
> >The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
> >and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
> >alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
> >component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
> >it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!
> >
> >RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.
>
>
> On 29/10/2007, Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:
> > John, LF,
> >
> > you may wish to have a look at QEX, http://www.arrl.org/qex/
> >
> > If you accept a paperless forum, there is a Yahoo group called EMRFD at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emrfd/ . It was started by Roger KA7EXM
> > (W7ZOI's son). I found the group yesterday (!) so I don't know much
> > about it yet, but the authors of the book EMFRD (Experimental Methods in
> > RF Design) seem to be active on the mailing list, including the
> > legendary Wes Hayward W7ZOI himself. The group has about 500 solder
> > melting members, it certainly looks promising :-)
> >
> > 73
> > Johan SM6LKM
> >
> > John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> > > BTW does anyone know of something along the lines of a QRO version of
> > > SPRAT? A magazine for tinkerers in the RF arts?
> >
> >
> >
>


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Dear all.

This is a QSP mail from F6BWO :

*TO EVERY ACTIVE 500 KHZ STATIONS* *:=A8PSE NOTICE F6BWO/JN28NC PSE LISTENIN=
G
500 KHZ A 2000UTC EVERY DAYS AND WILL BE READY FOR XBAND QSO ON 3533 KHZ  -
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<p><strong>TO EVERY ACTIVE 500 KHZ STATIONS</strong> <strong>:=A8PSE NOTICE=20=
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Fine, John,

That would be intresting, as the psk and rtty 'runs did not produce a clear 
print over any sustained period , if you have any time , as the band condx 
are stable, i could change over to  amtor-fec at 85 hz shift , see how that 
prints .. that is a mode , you can send by simple fsk , ?

Graham ..


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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that John,
>>
>> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
>> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>>
>> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
>> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
>> effective on this band ,
>> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
>> system .
>>
>> Tnx
>
>
> Hi Graham and the LF group,
>
> Yes I rather cheated by picking the best bit. It does get errors in the
> QSB dips, I can kick the decoder away again and see if I can quantify
> the period of good/bad copy.
>
> I believe MFSK16 would be okay for non-linear amps, as it's a single
> tone system.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joh
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Hello all,

 

 A few days ago a list of "Active" 500khz stations was posted on this
reflector. There were approx. 30 G or English stations, 2-GM's 2GI's and
2GW's. Whether there are many more who obtained NOV's I don't know.

However, it seems a rather poor take up of the privileged opportunity to
operate on this interesting band. Excellent transmitter designs by M0MBU and
GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but have not, as Mal
G3KEV has said,  found their way into RADCOM. Possibly Dave G3YXM could
bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who select construction
and design articles. It is of course, a niche interest as are many others in
amateur radio but regrettably, one is drawn to the conclusion that some UK
amateurs are a bit tardy when it comes to having to build equipment. Re the
availability of components, this is not really a problem.  The big boys
Farnell, Radiocomponents and Rapid will now deal direct and the small
suppliers that come to mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous
others.

 

I too, am also critical of the current trend in RADCOM as voiced by others
but it must be born in mind that without the representations by the RSGB we
would not have had the NOVs on 500.and that we are the only European country
with that privilege.

 

 I do fear that unless OFCOM make a decision soon at to the future of the
500khz allocation there will now be little incentive for people to go to the
trouble of building for this experimental band.

With apologies for the ramble

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

 

 


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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>However, it seems a rather poor t=
ake up of
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ansmitter
designs by M0MBU and GW3UEP (and possibly others )have been posted here but
have not, as Mal G3KEV has said, &nbsp;found their way into RADCOM. Possibly
Dave G3YXM could bring these to the attention of the RADCOM people who selec=
t
construction and design articles. It is of course, a niche interest as are m=
any
others in amateur radio but regrettably, one is drawn to the conclusion that
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availability of components, this is not really a problem.&nbsp; The big boys
Farnell, Radiocomponents and Rapid will now deal direct and the small suppli=
ers
that come to mind are JAB, Sycom, and Mode Components and numerous others.<o=
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the representations by the RSGB we would not have had the NOVs on 500.and th=
at
we are the only European country with that privilege.<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

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pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;I do fear that unless OFCOM=
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decision soon at to the future of the 500khz allocation there will now be
little incentive for people to go to the trouble of building for this
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><s=
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Multpsk

Amtor set -
click  Blue button -- amtor-fec-navtex  ............. sets  fec tx/rx mode

over waterfall  .. led , synchro ,  then 3 butons   shift -85-   170  - 200-

click  -85-  sets  two  light blue tune lines on water fall .. center over 
data stream

Thanks , John,

This will be a usefull test as  'fsk' is not too difficult to  produce !

Graham ..




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>> Fine John,
>>
>> Ok Ill change over modes to  , amtor - fec   85 hz shift .. same text
>> and power .. just had a shower of rain and the swr  has jumped up
>> and i cannot tune it out .. loading coil is wet ...
>>
>> .... Tnx - Graham ..
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> Any advice on setting Multipsk for amtor-fec 85Hz?
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.......and long-path condx very good on 160m in the morning. ZL7 and ZL3 
worked Friday, KH6AT and ZM1A both excellent signals this morning.

73
Tom G3OLB

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> Hi all
> Mf condx vy good at present.
> Worked SU9, JA, HL3. last nite on 160 m also some RA0 stns on the band 
> plus
> some W stns.
> Beacons from GI and GM and DI also vy strong on 500 khz  but no QSO acty.
> de G3KEV
>
>
> 



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Thanks for all the info chaps on /6 and /17.
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Dear LF Group,

I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
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Last night , nil nil nil !......
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
> Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
> it has only 3 hours of listening there
> (stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
> 73 J-P f1afj
>
> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
>> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>>
>> 73
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>
>> =20
>>> Hello Joe ,
>>> Last night , nothing here !
>>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>>
>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>   =20
>>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     =20
>>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>>> I listening tonight
>>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>       =20
>>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM=20
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240=20
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         =20
>>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats=20
>>>>>>> time of  start
>>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station=20
>>>>>>> on  183 kHz 1
>>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          =20
>>>>> --=20
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John, LF,

Condx really are good tonight, for sure. GI4DPE is peaking 579 on 501.32,
and your signals are peaking about 559 on 501.50, with a distinct 180 Hz
beat note being audible at times.

Spectran screenshot attached showing GI4DPE (Leftmost peak, lower trace) and
GM4SLV (rightmost peak, upper trace)

73,Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Sent: 16 October 2007 21:38
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Subject: LF: Condx good on 500


Hi LF,

Another good night in progress.

Just had QSO in CW with Chris G3XIZ and a first QSO at long last with
Colin G3VTT. Fantastic to hear so much CW on the band...now off for
G3KEV...



--
John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland



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The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...

How to  set mode=20

Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'

You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 0).=
.. afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250   4-500=
  etc ....=20

click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ t=
ones 8)

tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to =20=
stop wandering caused by noise=20

G ..=20





  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08 PM
  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > midnig=
ht=20


  Hi,all.=20

  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .=20

  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out pe=
rform  psk31=20

  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq=
 , I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few c/=
s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .=20

  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal f=
ixed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20

  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below t=
he noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede , =20

  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center frequ=
ency to  that of the transmission and software settings=20

  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb .=
. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier'=
=20

  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 1=
300 Hz=20

   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will=
 provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and re=
duce the s/n at the rx .=20



  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent appe=
are to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.=20

  Software can be downloaded from :-

  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

  select :-


   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)=20


  Tnx

  Graham=20

  G0NBD

  io83lk









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over power=
ing ..=20
but ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How to&nbsp; set mode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Olivia&nbsp; ....&nbsp;click&nbsp;on &nbsp;=
the=20
green button .. 'OLIVIA'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You will see at the top of the waterfall=20
display&nbsp; , squelch slider .(set 0)... afc&nbsp; button .. then to&nbsp;=
 the=20
right .. cluster of&nbsp; 8 buttons&nbsp; 4-250&nbsp;&nbsp; 4-500&nbsp; etc=20=
....=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>click on &nbsp;&nbsp; , lower left&nbsp; bu=
tton=20
marked&nbsp;&nbsp; 250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ tones 8)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tune as normal ... if signal is very low ,=20
switch&nbsp; 'afc and&nbsp; lock' &nbsp;off to&nbsp; stop wandering caused b=
y=20
noise </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co=
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ksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2007 7:08=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Olivia data test ,to n=
ight=20
  503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local &gt; midnight </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,all. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To date , not tried a multi tone data sys=
tem .=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Olivia system , would seem to&nbsp; p=
rint=20
  well into&nbsp; the noise ..may out perform&nbsp; psk31 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 ton=
e=20
  setting&nbsp; 250 hz/bw&nbsp; 8 tone freq , I shall set the 'purple' cente=
r=20
  freq marker , to&nbsp; 503.3&nbsp; dead (+/- few c/s) . the output spectru=
m=20
  looks quite clean , and should not spread . </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are wider versions , but 250&nbsp;=20=
should=20
  be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sorry to&nbsp; those who=
 'know'=20
  , follows&nbsp; notes on reception &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As its possible , from observation at 'HF=
'&nbsp;=20
  olivia will print from below the noise level , accuate rx seting may be ne=
ede=20
  ,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rx settings 'usb'&nbsp; &nbsp;- dial freq=
uency=20
  to&nbsp; give recovered audio center frequency to&nbsp; that of the=20
  transmission and software settings&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i.e.&nbsp; The tx settings will be&nbsp;=20=
-dial=20
  frequency - 502.000 Khz ,&nbsp; mode usb .. software tx/rx tone , center=20
  frequency,&nbsp; 1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier' </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reverse applies for 'rx' dial&nbsp; 5=
02 , usb=20
  ,&nbsp; software , -purple mark- 1300 Hz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;using a narrow filter should not be=
 needed=20
  as the soundcard/software will provide the slectivity, also narrow filteri=
ng=20
  may 'round' the pulses and reduce the s/n at the rx . </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also s=
upports=20
  the mode, but dosent appeare to&nbsp; support the '250x8'&nbsp; narrow ver=
sion=20
  .. other packages may do. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Software can be downloaded from :-</FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index=
_anglais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>select :-</FONT></DIV>
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NT size=3D6>=20
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Hi Gary & LF,

Just on the way to bed but can RX some of the RTTY. Looks bright on the
waterfall. This decoded at 21:12UTC


RYRYRY
HRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRRSYSRYRYRYRYRYRYRYY
YRYRYRYRYRYZ
Y
21:122 W
HPOXQVUL
DSRKWGT4/2&5 IO13QP - RTTY - 23? HW SHIFT - 45. AUD GA REPOTSWELCOME
LTEIQSCKNBROWNNJ JUMVYEOMEY THE LAZY DOG
DE GORP&5 GWX -HIOIEQPE RTY - 1( HZ SHFH - BRTMTAKD - REPOLL QZLCOME
RYRYRHCYRYRYRYYRYYGYOY
YRYRYYRYRYRYRHRYRYRZYRSCYRYRYRYRY


Something legible in there!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Clousta, Shetland IP90gg



On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:04:47 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for report Graham.
> 
> Continuing until about 2230 utc.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> > Grary,
> > 
> > Good signal into  wallasey,  keying is very clean ..
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> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:37 PM
> > Subject: LF: 500 KHz RTTY Beacon
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> > 
> >> Hi LF,
> >>
> >> RTTY beacon tonite 503.600 KHz centre frequency.
> >>
> >> 45 baud, 23 HZ shift.
> >>
> >> Reports welcome.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Yes, those were the days Mal... I had an old Adcola when I was a 
teenager. The "front end" looked like a long coil of steel wire and the 
handle was a "phenolic paper" tube which got so hot I needed a glove to 
hold it! :-) I am too young to have enjoyed the really good old days of 
radio (born 59) but I built my first crystal RX on a 30x50cm plywood 
board at the age of 7, I think the "active device" was an OA79, and two 
years later I built my first phonograph amplifier in a plastic icecream 
container. Crystal pick-up, DL96 pentode powered by three 22.5V 
batteries + 1.5V heater and 1kOhm headphones...
It didn't have 200 buttons, not a single button actually, only a 1 meg 
potentiometer for "volume" but I was soooo happy! :-)

hamilton mal wrote:
 > G2AK in Birmingham had Adcola soldering irons
 > for 1 pound and 2 pence, the solder was free.
 > Those were the days and every radio amateur was
 > chattering away in morse


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Hello LF,

It's been tricky to maintain a regular evening sked recently, and I
guess I'm not alone in having lots of calls on my limited time!

I'm expending a lot of mental effort on the 500khz thing, and finding
it very interesting, but feel I need to work more of the stations that
are out there while we've got the band. 

I've already had at least one QSO with 9 different stations, in
G/GM/GI/GW and some have been worked multiple times. These repeat QSOs
are very worthwhile, as they show up the variations in signal, either
due to propagation/noise changes or due to station improvements.


The evenings have been bad for QRN but I find mornings, around 6:30 -
8am local time to be quite good. Certainly I hear some low power MF
broadcast stations from EI/GI very well at that time. 

Is anyone interested in a loosely arranged sked for sometime between
7am and 8am local time. The clocks will go back soon and push sunrise
earlier (by the clock) but we'll soon regain the night-time!


I am also going to try to be around most evenings at about 9:30 local
time too, and often on into the night....

Thursday evenings are particularly good for me, as my XYL is out every
Thursday!!

Regards,

John


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So far no good ,

Im trying to  locate qty 2 (better 4)  cermet trimer pot's , top adj , value 
4.7 or 5 K ohm enclosed or open frame ,  pcb mount , pin space , 5 mm x 10 
mm

The problem is , the pin spacing I need is , 5 mm by 10 mm . I can find any 
amount of 5 x 5 , rs components stopped stocking them last year .there range 
now jumps from 2k > 10k .., nothing on e-bay , maplin , only the small sizes 
..

Any suggestions , links or supply ?

Tnx - Graham .. 




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Hi,all.=20

To date , not tried a multi tone data system .=20

The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out perf=
orm  psk31=20

The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq ,=
 I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few c/s)=
 . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .=20

There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fix=
ed , plse let me know and i can qsy=20

>>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below the=
 noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede , =20

rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center frequen=
cy to  that of the transmission and software settings=20

i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb ..=20=
software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier'=20

The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 130=
0 Hz=20

 using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will p=
rovide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and redu=
ce the s/n at the rx .=20



NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent appear=
e to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.=20

Software can be downloaded from :-

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

select :-


 MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)=20


Tnx

Graham=20

G0NBD

io83lk






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To date , not tried a multi tone data syste=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Olivia system , would seem to&nbsp; pri=
nt well=20
into&nbsp; the noise ..may out perform&nbsp; psk31 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone=20
setting&nbsp; 250 hz/bw&nbsp; 8 tone freq , I shall set the 'purple' center=20=
freq=20
marker , to&nbsp; 503.3&nbsp; dead (+/- few c/s) . the output spectrum looks=
=20
quite clean , and should not spread . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are wider versions , but 250&nbsp; sh=
ould be=20
'ok' --- If anyone is xtal fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy </FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sorry to&nbsp; those who '=
know' ,=20
follows&nbsp; notes on reception &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As its possible , from observation at 'HF'&=
nbsp;=20
olivia will print from below the noise level , accuate rx seting may be need=
e=20
,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rx settings 'usb'&nbsp; &nbsp;- dial freque=
ncy=20
to&nbsp; give recovered audio center frequency to&nbsp; that of the transmis=
sion=20
and software settings&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i.e.&nbsp; The tx settings will be&nbsp; -d=
ial=20
frequency - 502.000 Khz ,&nbsp; mode usb .. software tx/rx tone , center=20
frequency,&nbsp; 1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 'carrier' </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reverse applies for 'rx' dial&nbsp; 502=
 , usb=20
,&nbsp; software , -purple mark- 1300 Hz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;using a narrow filter should not be n=
eeded as=20
the soundcard/software will provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering ma=
y=20
'round' the pulses and reduce the s/n at the rx . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also sup=
ports=20
the mode, but dosent appeare to&nbsp; support the '250x8'&nbsp; narrow versi=
on=20
.. other packages may do. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Software can be downloaded from :-</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_ang=
lais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>select :-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><IMG height=3D12 src=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/bullet1.gif" width=3D12><F=
ONT   size=3D6>&nbsp;</FONT><A href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK.ZIP"><B=
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e=3D6>=20
</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Karl-Heinz & Arnim,

DL1EIE received in NW UK at IO83QP using PA0RDT mini-whip antenna.

Copy direct also.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl-Heinz Gansel" <softrock@dl6ebs.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; "Arnim Pomsel" <arnim.pomsel@cityweb.de>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: LF: Info about QRSS test on 137,7khz from DL1EIE 19.10.2007 16:00h 
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> Hello all,
>
> OM Arnim  / DL1EIE ( QTH = JO31HP ) ask me to send this information to the 
> reflektor.
>
> He build a new X-tal exciter for 137Khz and want to do some QRSS test. 
> Arnim is transmitting QRSS on QRG 137,700Khz  from 16:00h - 20:00h UTC
>
> technical Information:
> TX:    X-tal exciter
> Pa:  MW maritim Transmitter  275Watt
> Antenna:  T-Antenna 24m  with 2x20mtr toploader
>
> His Email Adress is dl1eie@darc.de or via Bureau.
> Please send him  receiving reports!
>
> thank  you,
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>
>
>
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Subject: LF: Re: RTTY TEST cent freq 502.8 >> Mode change FEC amtor 85 Hz 
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> Mode change
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> FEC  AMTOR    85 HZ SHIFT ,
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> CENT FREQ  502.8
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> Graham ..
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> Running  rtty beacon  170 Hz shift , cent freq  502.8
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>> Graham ..
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In message <001701c818c6$ee4e9de0$27e4fc3e@g3kev>, hamilton mal 
<g3kev.ham@virgin.net> writes
>Its surprising how many amateurs subscriber to this reflector but have no
>opinion, SITTING ON THE FENCE. !!!!!!!!!!!!
>Come out of the woodwork and let us all know what you think.
>G3KEV

As someone who was licensed around the same time as Mal (in Jan 1955 as 
G3KEP after taking the May 1954 proper RAE), we had to spend 12 months 
on CW with a maximum of 25 watts d.c. input, except on Top Band where is 
was 10 watts.

Hence top band was a very popular band for new comers despite the QRM 
from fish fone and Radio Loran. It is not surprising therefore that 
people from that era are attracted to LF with home brew equipment. My 
own 500kHz rig is a 6AC7 Clapp VFO / 6AC7 BA / 807 PA - reflections from 
the old top bands days!

73

David
G4DMP
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info  is on qrz.com ?

G ..

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Just received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ on 502.0kHz


LF Hello!

Received G3WCE Q3 calling CQ in normal CW on 502.0kHz 20071023 18.29z

Any locator/contact info info available. No luck with google & latest 500kHz
operator list I have.

73's

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD




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Hi John, LFers,

A nice job on the website!  I have to ask...what are your winters
like at that latitude?  Living on the shore of  Lake Huron, I know
all about lake effect snow squalls, but I'll bet there are times that
you don't even see your neighbours home!  I made it all the way
to John O Groats back in '97 while doing a six week tour of the
UK in a rental car.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Hi LF,

Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks like 
they are on collision course.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's


> Hi LF,
>
> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong 
> and
> audible using normal morse (CW).
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 

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Ok Jim

Reminds me of picadilly circus wathching the news caster .... whats the 
optimum refresh rate ? , ive just caught the letters -erp -  but nothing 
since ...

G ..





----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I am transmitting the chirped Hell signal again on 503.5kHz for a while -
> any reports welcome.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
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> 




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Last night , no trace .
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj




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Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
01:00=>02:45  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )

On 187 kHz :
Nothing here

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73 J-P f1afj





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In order not to clutter the list I collected all my thanks for recent help t=
o
one post:

Chris - thanks for the new 500kHz operators list, always useful.

Graham - thanks for the info on UK street address to approximate grid square
conversion. Will be very handy in the future.

Wolfgang - It works! It must have been IF/AF clipping just as you suggested.=
 It
didn't come easy though. I have to use the -20dB attenuator (tried that befo=
re
but no luck) PLUS reduced RF gain with much MORE AF gain than usual. Already
got a nice screenshot of DI2AG in QRSS3 and he was a clear copy in NDB mode
too. Danke Sch=F6n dafuer!

73's

Paul-Henrik



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I just Googled Joe Taylor and found out that he has a NOBEL PRIZE in PHYSICS!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hooton_Taylor,_Jr.

(Boy am I sorry for asking him such dumb questions!!!)

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> Its a bit like having the first telephone ......
> 
> G ..
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:58 PM
> Subject: Fwd: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> 
> 
> > If anyone uses JT2 on the LF bands, Joe would be interested in your 
> > findings...
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu>
> > Date: 18 Oct 2007 17:15
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Olivia data test
> > To: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Thanks for sending me a copy of your message to the RSGB LF
> > group.  I will be very interested to hear of any results of
> > using JT2 on an LF band.  Please keep me informed, or let me
> > know where to look for any reports or relevant discussion.
> >
> >       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> > 
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> 
> 



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Hi all
Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
de Mal/G3KEV



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Mal,

> My previous message must have escaped YOU.

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Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period pushed the
Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there. The radio effects
will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when things may be down a
bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at present but it is probably still
dropping. Anyone watching overnight may find the pre-dawn period is not as
good as it is usually.

Well done on Working peter that is almost as dar as you can go south, though
it might not be as far as to Tom G3OLB (another old 136 stalwart)

Best wishes
Alan G3NYK


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> Hello LF
>
> I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> light pollution!
>
> I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
>
> Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
>
> G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
>
> and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
>
> Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
>
> My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
>
>
> I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> ongoing somewhere within radio range.
>
> Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
>
> --
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>



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Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:37:25 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for that John,
>=20
> Thats quite usefull , looks to  be better than the psk31  ,  how much
> of the 'qsb' cycle is it printing  ?
>=20
> As a rough guess , thats  2 mins of text , which I think is over the
> qsb period -60/90 seconds ? , in which case the mode is quite
> effective on this band ,
> only problem is , it transmitts tones in pairs and needs a linea
> system .
>=20
> Tnx
>=20
> Graham .


Graham/LF

Here's about 5 minutes worth.

Nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcq
1g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0n%d  qsl
g0nbdot4viwNcqcqsr test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qWK6|g0nbd@hotmail.com
cqcqcq test g0Yg0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.om cqcq+qgk=C2=B0n
S\v5bd|st9"!>Ws0GG@A,_aE9S:cGGqcq tes 0~g0nU)1,`z|Ig0nbd gqmail.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0npd  qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com E'{ test g0nbd
g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nd  qsl!
=C3=A2d@hotmil.cU A{qsD g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.cOm cqcqcq
test g0nbd g0nbd bd  qsl  bd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd
qsl  g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcqstgst g0nbd g0naCg0nb>  qsl
g0nbd@hotmail.ecqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl ]g0nbd@hotl.com
cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  gnbd@hotmai&.com cqcqcq test g0nbd
g0nbd g0nbd  qc


It looks like approx 2 minutes of reasonable copy and 1 minute of
garbage. I'll let you count the characters!

On the whole it works quite well, tonight isn't a good night - the QRN
is playing havoc!

Regards,


John

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Thank-you J-P for monitoring for the signals. The TX is operating
normally near 189.9498 kHz.  Lets hope that conditions improve
and you will have success.

Joe

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> Some traces, at the beginning of night good copy of WD2XGJ!
>
> On 189 kHz :
> Nil
>
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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If you want simple lumped ones, my website contains a basic filter design prog
http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/designsw.htm

For more advanced stuff, I use Ansoft Designer SV (student version)
which has a wonderful filter design tool under "projects - insert
filter design" then follow th einstructions

Designer SV is a big download, but its free and an excelent Rf design tool !

Andy  G4JNT

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> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with thanks Laurence 9V1 LF
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Thanks for report Jose.

Static was terrible here but nice to know we are making it into EA.

Hope to work you cross band

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Best wishes

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Mike GW4HXO

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Hello all,

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Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN.

Then GW4HXO, with stronger signals, calling G3UNT.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for report Jose.=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Static was terrible her=
e but nice to know
we are making it into EA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best wishes<o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Just copied CW QSO between G3UNT and GI3PDN.</span=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Then GW4HXO, with stronger signals, calling G3UNT.=
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.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>As I see that xband QSO=B4s are taking place, I=
=B4ll try to
prepare my antenna for a possible xband contact.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p=
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Joe,

nil last night.


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Tnx Paul for the report, nice to hr fm OH land, hope u are able to get on
the band  soon.
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LF

Just copied G3KEV and GW4HXO in QSO on 502.5kHz. G3KEV was S2 over noise and
GW4HXO a Q3. Now G3KEV is CQ:ing away on 502.5kHz, still at S2 over noise.
No
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Good copy&nbsp; of OK0EMW in JN45SL using the new Perseus receiver and a
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Radcom arrived today, about a week late. It took about 10 minutes to read
after skipping through the adverts, league tables and some fairy tales. The
actual technical info and construction projects are sparse. All UK radio
magazines seem to follow the same trend with too many adverts and stories
and very little construction projects.
If you can find some old Practical wireless or 73 magazines from 50 years
ago they are better presented with useful construction ideas and ccty. Some
thing along these lines would be more desirable today incorperating modern
technology.
Has anyone noticed there are no adverts for COMPONENTS to build the odd tech
article that does appear. The marketing procedure used at present seems to
favour books and pages of new equipment and gadgets and contest results.
Maybe no tech articles are being submitted for publication or are they not
being published.
Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and antenna
systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
Does anyone else have an opinion.
Mal/G3KEV




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Helllo Uwe, LF
I am very happy  to report my FIRST  500khz  RX. As i still  finish my 
137 khz antennae  i did not have any kind of antenna for 500khz
i joined this LF group few days ago and  saw that the number of  "500 
khz"  posts  exceeds that one of  "137khz" so i decided 2 days ago to 
fix quickly
indoor antenna  i.e several turns of wire on  a square-shape  paper box 
resulting  in inductance of abt 0.580  mH  series tuned  with variable 
capacitor and  raising impedance ferrite transformer. i put this antenna 
into my 746pro  trx  and the rest is obvious.  antenna is "sitting" on 
the carpet  in the middle of the room
yesterday you posted  mail concerning the DI2BE beacon so i  used your 
frequency of 505.140 khz  and the result is attached  as the jpg
screen  capture frm spectran. also below you will see  the DI2AM beacon  
transmitting actually on higer freq abt 505.183 kHz ( "left" injection)
anyway, Uwe , i am very happy  ( almost like a kid, hi hi) to get my 
first observation of radioamateur actvity on  500 khz  it happend it was 
"your" beacon
my loc jo91rs  so it gives abt 700km
                                                                                                
73,peter,sq7mpj
p.s.  originally, this post contained bigger picture  and was sent to 
Uwe who  pointed out the max  size of  attached pictures .sri and tnx  
for this remark
i hope this time it reaches the LF group.   ( first thing first.....)

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LF Hello!

Received G3VTT Q5 calling CQ in normal CW on 501.9kHz 20071023 19.23z

JO01JG 1805km

73's

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>From the ARRL web page...

"The conference will also consider a secondary allocation to the amateur service of 135.7-137.8 kHz. The Amateur Service currently has no frequency allocations lower than 1.8 MHz. With today's widespread use of digital technology, Sumner said, amateurs can now make use of weaker signals than ever before. "This opens a window of opportunity for amateurs to conduct technical investigations in the low-frequency range." More than 20 governments have already allowed individuals, most of them Amateur Radio operators, to experiment on frequencies between 73 and 200 kHz; 15 European governments allow amateur operations on 135.7-137.8 kHz. There is considerable support for this allocation in proposals from a large number of administrations.

Planning for WRC-11

Four items are on the IARU "wish list" of agenda items for consideration at the next WRC, possibly in 2011:

• In IARU Region 1 (Europe, Russia, the Middle East and Africa), allocate 50-54 MHz (6 meters), as is already done in Region 2 and Region 3. The United States is a member of Region 2.

• Allocate 495-510 kHz to the Amateur Service on either a primary or secondary basis. This will permit the development of reliable groundwave systems for disaster relief and provide a spectrum for experimentation with digital signal processing.

• Continue to allow amateurs access to frequencies at regular intervals above 275 GHz, keeping in mind allocations and protections to other services. The IARU suggests providing specific allocations to the Amateur Service, as established at WARC-79, of "relatively narrow, primary bands adjacent to wider, secondary bands."

• If the ITU Member States decide to review HF allocations at WRC-11, the IARU asks for consideration of expansion of the amateur bands near 10, 14 and 18 MHz in order to better accommodate increased activity. Sumner notes that consideration of HF issues at WRC-11 is by no means certain."




--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Sorry forgot to add my QTH to my post

Vernon - VE1VDM
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Alan
No black holes around Scarboro, condx still good today on 160m. Just heard
UA9RO and A71EM but to mention a couple and its daylight at just gone 1600z
73 mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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> Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period pushed
the
> Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there. The radio
effects
> will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when things may be down a
> bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at present but it is probably
still
> dropping. Anyone watching overnight may find the pre-dawn period is not as
> good as it is usually.
>
> Well done on Working peter that is almost as dar as you can go south,
though
> it might not be as far as to Tom G3OLB (another old 136 stalwart)
>
> Best wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24 PM
> Subject: LF: Visual Aurora and good condx
>
>
> > Hello LF
> >
> > I've just been outside in the garden watching a splendid visual display
> > in the northern sky. The benefits of a remote northern location and no
> > light pollution!
> >
> > I then came into a warm shack and called CQ.
> >
> > Proceeded to work 3 new stations:-
> >
> > G3YHV Colin, Bristol
> > G3LDO Peter, nr Worthing
> >
> > and happily at last a 2-way QSO with G3UNT
> >
> > Also a good QSO with Ray GI3PDN, probably above normal signals between
> > us, although Ray's beacon has been good recently.
> >
> > My antenna blew down in a gale on Thursday night and was only
> > re-erected on Sunday! Just in time for some nice new catches on 500.
> >
> >
> > I guess Alan Melia may have some thoughts on the conditions wrt visual
> > Aurora. The QRN level is also quite high tonight, but there have been
> > some intense hail showers today and I guess there might still be some
> > ongoing somewhere within radio range.
> >
> > Nice night. Now to relax in front of the fire.
> >
> > --
> > John GM4SLV
> > IP90gg
> > Clousta, Shetland
> >
> >
>
>



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Hi Mal, LF,

You wrote :-

>Think of all the construction going on for 500 khz transmitters, and 
>antenna
> systems at present but nothing has appeared  in RADCOM.
> Does anyone else have an opinion.

Perhaps the problem lies with the members & readers who should be submitting 
ideas & articles to the RadCom team.

I really don't know how they select for the magazine but if they don't know 
the stuff is there how can they print it ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi all
137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more international
aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of the
local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 given
that there is some other acty on the band.
I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, nothing
major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
de G3KEV




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Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report and captures!
WD2XGJ QRT tonight due to WX (Storms)

Will work on the high power tuner on the weekend - maybe QRO next week!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: Jean-Pierre Méré <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Last night , I copy on 137 kHz :
> 01:00=>02:45  WD2XGJ ( traces not readable )
> 
> On 187 kHz :
> Nothing here
> 
> The captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
> 
> 73 J-P f1afj
> 
> 
> 
> 



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In a recent message, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote 
...
>David Pratt wrote:
>
>> The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence 
>>and  is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.
>
>Oh and I forgot.... a beacon is (as defined) "automatic transmitting 
>only Radio Equipment"... I guess then if there's a receiver capable (as 
>required in the regs) of receiving on the frequency of transmission, in 
>the mode of transmission then it can't be a "beacon" as defined.

I am sure you're right, John.  The use of the word "Beacon" is a 
misnomer in this context and should be referred to as CQ (or initial) 
calls. Granted, there are countries that only permit operation of 
beacons on 500kHz and not participation in 2-way communications.

Looking forward to working you when I have improved my antenna system.

73

David
-- 
+----------------------------------+
| David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK |
| Homepage: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |
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After surprisingly little colourful language, the reference
oscillator of the HP5382A freq. counter was used to clock the
AD9850. The frequency was set to c/1600 = 187.3702(8625) kHz.
The drift and accuracy should be good to within 100 mHz.
Unfortunately the freq. counter can no longer be used to
monitor drift!

QRSS240 (+-) starting 1800 utc today until 20 Oct.

Reports are always welcomed.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Graham, LF,

Thanks for the help earlier, I have the hang of the software now.

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Subject: LF: Re: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight




The 'mpsk' function set is a bit over powering .. but ...

How to  set mode

Olivia  .... click on  the green button .. 'OLIVIA'

You will see at the top of the waterfall display  , squelch slider .(set 
0)... afc  button .. then to  the right .. cluster of  8 buttons  4-250 
4-500  etc ....

click on    , lower left  button marked   250-8 .(sets mode to 250 hz bw @ 
tones 8)

tune as normal ... if signal is very low , switch  'afc and  lock'  off to 
stop wandering caused by noise

G ..





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham
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  Subject: LF: Olivia data test ,to night 503.300 ~ 20:00 hrs local > 
midnight


  Hi,all.

  To date , not tried a multi tone data system .

  The Olivia system , would seem to  print well into  the noise ..may out 
perform  psk31

  The 'multipsk' software has a 250 x 8 tone setting  250 hz/bw  8 tone freq 
, I shall set the 'purple' center freq marker , to  503.3  dead (+/- few 
c/s) . the output spectrum looks quite clean , and should not spread .

  There are wider versions , but 250  should be 'ok' --- If anyone is xtal 
fixed , plse let me know and i can qsy

  >>>> Sorry to  those who 'know' , follows  notes on reception <<<<<<

  As its possible , from observation at 'HF'  olivia will print from below 
the noise level , accuate rx seting may be neede ,

  rx settings 'usb'   - dial frequency to  give recovered audio center 
frequency to  that of the transmission and software settings

  i.e.  The tx settings will be  -dial frequency - 502.000 Khz ,  mode usb 
.. software tx/rx tone , center frequency,  1,300 Hz , giving 503.3 
'carrier'

  The reverse applies for 'rx' dial  502 , usb ,  software , -purple mark- 
1300 Hz

   using a narrow filter should not be needed as the soundcard/software will 
provide the slectivity, also narrow filtering may 'round' the pulses and 
reduce the s/n at the rx .



  NB .. The new 'digital master 780' also supports the mode, but dosent 
appeare to  support the '250x8'  narrow version .. other packages may do.

  Software can be downloaded from :-

  http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

  select :-


   MULTIPSK.ZIP (Multipsk + Clock)


  Tnx

  Graham

  G0NBD

  io83lk









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Hi Paul-Henrik,
your log indicates that DI2BE transmits on 501kHz.
but it is and was 505,140.12kHz.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv

Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Isn't you calling CQ being a good S1 over noise on a clear band in=20
> OH/KP03SD at
> 17.00UTC sort of a miracle already? And it has happened more than once dur=
ing
> the past week.
>
> As seen from here, the primary problem doesn't seem to be power although i=
t
> would help the situation a lot, no doubt about that. Maybe it is the lack=20=
of
> 2-way permits in other european countries that is keeping the=20
> breaktrough from
> happening? You are not the only UK station I can hear on "a regular=20
> basis" but
> your early evening signal is really one of the best UK signals here.=20
> Late night
> propagation has more QSB, but with good signals in the peaks with=20
> plenty of time
> for a short QSO. Have a look at my log, all but one call is copied in=20
> normal CW:
> http://www.netikka.net/oh1lsq/500_log.txt
>
> The european amateur and experimental 500kHz signals have improved a lot h=
ere
> during the past two weeks and this also goes for 505.1kHz. Evening best fo=
r
> DI2AM used to be S2 over noise, now the DI2AM evening best is S5 over nois=
e.
> That is a BIG signal. DI2AM is at 1139km distance from here. I'm well=20
> aware of
> the 9W ERP J=F6rg is using. Gus, SM6BHZ at 807kms soon owes me a new S-met=
er
> needle. His signal was incredibly strong last time he was on, with=20
> 10W EMRP if
> I remeber correctly.
>
> So keep up the good work until they start handing out keys in other=20
> countries as
> well! You are very priviligied at the moment in the UK.
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ / KP03SD
>
> Quoting hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>:
>
>> Hi all
>> 137 khz seems to be neglected at present in spite of the more internation=
al
>> aspect. 500 khz although only a national UK band is attracting most of th=
e
>> local UK operators. During this winter I will concentrate more on 137 giv=
en
>> that there is some other acty on the band.
>> I think 500 has been exhausted given the limited power restrictions, noth=
ing
>> major can be achieved until higher power is permitted, or some some sort
>> miracle is performed !!!!!!!!
>> de G3KEV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




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Mine also seems to be missing the "Sensible-not-old fogys-moaning-minnies"  
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Screenshot taken last night can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/2007-VO1NA187kHz/2007VO1NA187kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hello Joe ,
Last night , nothing here !
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>
> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hi Joe ,
>> I listening tonight
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>>
>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>
>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>
>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of  s=
tart
>>>> beaconing ?
>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  183=20=
kHz 1
>>>> MW,
>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>
>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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The new ones heard last night:

09.10.2007      21:13   326     C       HNG     Debrecen
09.10.2007      23:17   327     NC8     LBY     Hamada NC-8
09.10.2007      21:00   343     E       ROU     Craiova
10.10.2007      00:33   346     BRD     IRN     Bojnurd
09.10.2007      22:26   346     Y       HNG     Nyiregyhaza

73
Hartmut
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Hi LF,

In the quiet moments between CQ calls and listening out for CQ calls
(and other more mundane matters like work, life, family etc) I squeezed
together a few photos and words about my 500kHz setup and dropped them
onto a website.

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500expt.htm

Regards,

John GM4SLV
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=20
Being one whom seems destined to live in places where no local activity exis=
ts within , say, 5000Kms radii, can I say that Ive had the delight to hear n=
umerous Eu signals on Circa 505Khz over the past 48 hours of listening.
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Todays feast started off with a CW qso with a G3UNT (599)and a G4D (DGR or G=
DR I cant remember... (549, I was in the Croydon at the time) :- youll have=20=
to remember Ive a long term memory of a goldfish; then a longish qso with GI=
4DPE (559) and G3KEV (599), (M1 J12). With Guss' signal dogboning from SM an=
d D  beacons stations  booming in  made my drive from Sussex to Nottingham m=
ore interesting than having to listen to BBC local radio drivel
=20
Antennae
=20
Ive had at least two people today come up to me and say "I got to ask why DO=
 YOU HAVE A BABY BOTTLE on your car roof?" -=20
=20
Note to self : - try to replace baby bottle with something more mundane.
=20
Noise=20
=20
The noise level is pretty good, and I only get a couple of squeaks from the=20=
PC near 500KHz. Earthing the coax where it comes from the eprobe knocks some=
 30dB of internal to car hash from getting to the probe. The best place Ive=20=
found is near, but not on, the door catch bolt. I have about a 6 inch tail o=
f wire bonded to the outer of the RG174 cable and this is connected to the c=
ar chassis. Running the 12VDC to 240VAC inverter does create a few dBs more=20=
noise but not enough to mask Finbars signal.
=20
Regards and thanks to all for the beacons and CW signals.
=20
Laurence G4DMA/M
J28 M1 for the night.
SDR IQ modded PA0RDT probe on magmount. Dell D610
_________________________________________________________________
Climb to the top of the charts!=A0 Play Star Shuffle:=A0 the word scramble c=
hallenge with star power.
http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=3Dstarshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Being one whom seems destined to live in places where no local activity exis=
ts within , say, 5000Kms radii, can I say that Ive had the delight to hear n=
umerous Eu signals on Circa 505Khz over the past 48 hours of listening.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Todays feast&nbsp;started off with a CW qso&nbsp;with a G3UNT (599)and a G4D=
 (DGR or GDR I cant remember...&nbsp;(549, I was in the Croydon at the&nbsp;=
time)&nbsp;:- youll have to remember Ive a long term memory of a goldfish; t=
hen a longish qso with GI4DPE (559)&nbsp;and G3KEV (599), (M1 J12).&nbsp;Wit=
h Guss' signal dogboning from SM and D&nbsp; beacons stations&nbsp; booming=20=
in&nbsp; made my drive from Sussex to Nottingham more interesting than havin=
g to listen to BBC local radio drivel<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Antennae<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive had at least two people today come up to me and say "I got to ask why DO=
 YOU HAVE A BABY BOTTLE on your car roof?" -&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Note to self : - try to replace baby bottle with something more mundane.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Noise <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The noise level is pretty good, and I only get a couple of squeaks from the=20=
PC near 500KHz. Earthing the coax where it comes from the eprobe knocks some=
 30dB of internal to car hash from getting to the probe. The best place Ive=20=
found is near, but not on,&nbsp;the door catch bolt. I have about a 6 inch t=
ail of wire bonded to the outer of the RG174 cable and this is connected to=20=
the car chassis. Running the 12VDC to 240VAC inverter does create a few dBs=20=
more noise but not enough to mask Finbars signal.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Regards and thanks to all for the beacons and CW signals.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence G4DMA/M<BR>
J28 M1 for the night.<BR>
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e top of the charts!=A0 Play Star Shuffle:=A0 the word scramble challenge wi=
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The next night i will qrv for listening on 137 and 187 kHz

this morning I wrote:

 >  On 187 kHz :
 >  17:30=>18:20  traces on frequency VO1NA

it was not VO1NA! it was Spurious

73 J-P f1afj





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http://www.aade.com/filter.htm

73
Johan SM6LKM

Laurence KL1X wrote:
> Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's [...]



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Hello LFers,

I've been reading this thread and find it describing what
has taken place on this side of the pond as well.  I had
a subscription to 73 Magazine during the 70's and 80's,
and it was at least 7 mm thick and was packed full of all
sorts of good articles.  These days it must be a license
to print money publishing a magazine, when you concider
the revenue they take in from the ads and what you have
to hand over for a copy at the newstand.  It's sure
not the same as "The good ole days".

73, J.B., VE3EAR/VE3WZL
hamming since 1968


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On 24 Oct 2007 at 7:40, hamilton mal wrote:

> Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> 
> G3KEV
> 
> 
It is out Mal, others have reported receiving it earlier this week. I 
received the extracts they send to clubs via email at the beginning 
of the week, but not received my paper copy yet.

Remember there was a post strike last week, I expect it even affected 
Scarborough.... Still waiting for the latest edition of Sprat, which 
many of our overseas chaps have already received...

73 Dave G3YMC


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Hi Vern & LF!

Are the same problem here.

After my post about RN3AGC, Andy report the group was lose two my messages.



I solve a problem by the other way.



http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/PE1RRF/PE1RRF.html

Frank, you was real rx'd here! If you used a qrss 60/120 we are read you I think!



http://www.9h3nr.nm.ru/ok0emw/ok0emw.html

The OK0EMW here in qrss-3 on 505.06 kHz today.

505.181 kHz DI2AM(left) and 505.02 kHz also read good.





10.10.07, 03:28, Vernon Matheson (vmath@eastlink.ca):



> I sent a note to the list a while ago with an inserted capture...just a

> small slice showing a signal. I haven't seen the note come back...will this

> list only accept text messages and block any type of attachments.

> Vern - VE1VDM



--

73!

Roman, RW3ADB



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Ok Joe , I will listen to the next night,
it has only 3 hours of listening there
(stop of =93Europe 183kHz=94 for maintenance)
73 J-P f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thank-you Jean-Pierre.  Hopefully soon you will have
> good luck with low QRM and QRN.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Hello Joe ,
>> Last night , nothing here !
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> Hi  Jean Pierre,
>>>
>>> Thank-you for monitoring.  The TX is working well.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> Hi Joe ,
>>>> I listening tonight
>>>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>>> Hi Nicolas and Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank-you for the questions on the 187.37 kHz signals.  The 5 WPM will
>>>>> be discontinued starting tonight and the beacon will run QRSS240 until
>>>>> Saturday morning.  Good luck and 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>>>> Hello Joe yur 1600m tests are all nights of this week? whats time of=20=
 start
>>>>>> beaconing ?
>>>>>> In France we must wait the stop of "Europe1" broadcast station on  18=
3 kHz 1
>>>>>> MW,
>>>>>> Stop broadcasting is between 2300Z and 0200Z.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RX: IC 756 PRO/IC 7400
>>>>>> Ant: mini whip PA0RDT or  33 fts vertical antenna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe  Craig a =E9crit :
>>>>>> ~60 second dots 187.37 kHz 10 watts to 100m  wire
>>>>>> at 10 metres height. Reports most  welcomed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Joe VO1NA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            =20
>>>>>
>>>>>          =20
>>>> --
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>>>> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        =20
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>> --
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>>
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>
>
>
>  =20

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On 25/10/2007, hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
> Hi all
> I built a class E type TX in a couple of days, my own design layout etc an=
d
> kept it simple, but I am experienced having built equipment over the years
> from the valve era, then transistors and today mostly IC technology. The
> problem for most would be getting the components and this is where Radcom
> falls down, not a single advert even for a resistor. The trouble with the
> big suppliers like Farnell is the cost ie minimum order of =A320 each time=
 a
> component is required.
> My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit t=
he
> cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find
> it would not be published in Radcom.
> My cct consists of an IC706 transmitting a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq
> wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
> cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50
> ohms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50
> metres to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at abo=
ut
> 33 metres vertical and the rest horizontal.
> This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.
> Most of the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. T=
o
> date it has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach woul=
d
> be an EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.
> The PA coil is about 50 years old,  ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with=
 a
> tinned copper winding, just right for the job. The condensers are also ex
> equipment, high voltage.
> Is Radcom interested???
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
>
>
>

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Hello Frank, strong signal, whats kind of antenna used ? balloon ?
 
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RX: IC 756 PRO
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Hi Laurence.
Try    www.aade.com  You will have to put up with the site adverts, the
filter design covers Chebyshev, Butterworth etc. I have tried it and it is
ok, it will even do a full analysis for and design the inductors

Regards
Ken M0KHW    IO91TV

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Subject: LF: Chebyshev


Anyone point me to an online tool for designing LPF's for say 5 7 or 9 pole
Chebyshev's on LF or HF? ps. Mr mail service hasnt plonked this months
Radcom onto my desk and not expecting it for another week or so; this is
typical for a routing that includes UK, Houston thence Singapore. with
thanks Laurence 9V1 LF

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Hi John, LF,

Well said John !!!

I was tempted to reply with a short statement to Mal's original "moan" so I 
will make that statement now.

"Very narrow minded attitude"

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:29 PM
Subject: LF: Please can we stop moaning now?


> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
>> Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are
>> permitted to have two way communications.This does not make sense.
>> We need two way communications for real time assessment of
>> propagation and not ONE WAY.
>> Some argue that they get reports from all around the world while in
>> BEACON mode but forget to mention that they would get the same
>> reports if they were in QSO.I often get reports from near and far
>> while in QSO mode. I would suggest a licence for BEACONS only in a
>> selected part of the 500 khz band, like the German system and another
>> for real  communications by real radio amateurs preferably using the
>> traditional marine method of CW. G3KEV
>
> Sorry Mal, but I don't understand.
>
> How can one get a signal report, in a 2-way QSO on 500kHz, from OH, DL,
> F, EA, LA and various non-NoV G stations? They can't operate on 500kHz.
>
> Cross-band QSOs are no good - after all that would still be only ONE WAY
> on 500 so a reception report of hearing a beacon is just as valid as a
> cross-band QSO.
>
>
> If I'm in a position to operate I will call CQ and listen for other
> CQs. I've lost count of the CQs I've answered without being heard.
> There are a lot of people out there that stuggle to receinve weak
> signals due to their local noise floors.
>
> I answer every station I hear, until I become convinced that they can't
> hear me, for whatever reason and then give up, making a mental note to
> try again if they are ever heard again at a better strength.
>
>
> But if I can't be at the key then I see no harm in radiating a signal
> for others to use. I presume that when you're not sending CQ on 502.5
> that you are on other bands, persuing other interests? Leaving dead
> stony silence on 500.
>
> I'd rather give something back for others so I sometimes send a beacon,
> but more usually I make available my receiving setup for others to use,
> via my grabber.
>
> I also have live streaming audio from my receiver available via the
> internet, but I'm not revealing here how to receive it! Anyone who
> wants to know can contact me directly.
>
> These things are done as a service to others in the 500kHz community.
>
> Better to be doing something useful while waiting for CW QSOs or
> building gear to improve ones own station, than to sit there bashing
> out terse emails deriding "appliance operators" and the inadequate
> CW skills of the active NoV holders.
>
> As I said previously "I have had over 50 QSOs,with at least 9 stations,
> all in CW and all hand sent". I have never tried to work RTTY or PSK (I
> tried to receive some as a help to someone else).
>
> Am I unique in that my NoV actually states "A1A, CW" as the ONLY
> permitted mode?
>
>
> I don't restrict myself to BEACON MODE. However - how am I going to
> know if a fleeting opening to W or VE occurs at 3am without some form
> of pre-arranged overnight beacon. I can't sit bashing away at the key
> overnight, I have a full time job to hold down.
>
> I never even call CQ with any form of memory keyer - all my CW is live,
> hand sent morse.
>
>
> Please stop this "BEACONS BAD - CW GOOD" nonesense. Anything that helps
> anyone get something new and educational from access to this part of
> the spectrum should be applauded.
>
> I have absolutely no interst in working the "flavour of the month
> DXpedition" on HF, nor of gaining DXCC/WAS/WAC or any other "stamp
> collecting" award.
>
> I'm interested in building/improving my station in order to have REAL
> CW QSOs. I have had many long chats, oftern of well over an hour long,
> in CW on 500, despite shocking conditions and the ridiculous power
> restrictions, during which I've done some real and interesting tests -
> eg reducing TX power to 50mW - no rubber stamp "599 pse agn ur name
> qth" QSO here.
>
>
>
> John GM4SLV
> IP90GG
> Clousta, Shetland
>
>
> 



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Hi Dave, yes indeed.

There are two main sources of geomagnetic storm "stimulation". The first is
the well known Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that emanate from the area of
sun-spots and are usually associated with flares,but can be ejected by some
non-flare proceses as well. These are common at the Solar max when the
Sun-spot count is, of course, high. The type of shock we experienced the
other day which caused the aurora and and has been happening at irregular
intervals throughout these quiet years is known as a "coronal hole event"
this is a "tear" in the solar atmosphere which results in the spin off of
coronal material (Hydrogen ions and electrons), much the same as the
background "solar wind" The presence of a coronal hole is like somone in the
garden with a hose being called from the house and swinging round drenching
everyone as the spray sweeps round. The speed of the cooronal hole flow is 2
or three times the speed of the normal solar wind so it causes a magnetic
shock to the geomagnetic field. Some of the plasma, mainly Hydrogen ions and
electrons are able to enter the earths field at the poles, spiralling down
the lines of force to create the magical auroral "curtains" described by
John.

All is not over however as the rest of the "spray" sweeps by and some is
sucked into the magnetic "tail" of the Earth's field a bit like when you
drive a hatchback with the tail-gate slightly open and the exhaust fumes
enter the car. These ions and electrons are drawn back into the Equatorial
Ring Current in the Van Allen Belt and form a reservoir of "hot" electrons
which are bled into the ionosphere at the sunrise edge where the earth's
field is distorted by the pressure of the solar wind. These diffuse down
into the D-layer are "hot" and long lived, and give the excess night-time
attenuation experienced at LF after a "magnetic storm". This even persists
for days after the Kp index has returned to normal low or quiet levels.
After severe storms the ring current can be so highly populated that LF
signals can often be depressed for 3 or 4 weeks. This generally only happens
around the Solar max. and after Kp=9 events.

Phew.....well you DID ask Dave !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Visual Aurora and good condx


> On 29 Oct 2007 at 21:46, Alan Melia wrote:
>
> > Hi John yes a Coronal hole flow shock at around 1800-2100z period
> > pushed the Kp up to 5 which is enough to give you a display up there.
> > The radio effects will probably not be felt until tomorrow night when
> > things may be down a bit. The Dst index is only down to -35nT at
> > present but it is probably still dropping. Anyone watching overnight
> > may find the pre-dawn period is not as good as it is usually.
>
> Maybe Alan can explain why we get these auroras and high K indexes at
> the sunspot minimum when the sun spot count and solar flux have been
> at rock bottom for weeks on end?
>
> Just checked, sunspot number still at 0, solar flux still at 67. A
> index (effectively yesterday's figure) for Kiel was 22 and K is
> currently 3 though has dropped from the earlier 5 figure.
>
> But why, and also why has there been an unusual sporadic E opening
> all weekend on 10m, which is most unusual in October. The guys
> playing in CQWW this weekend had a ball! I managed a QSO with C52C in
> the Gambia yesterday afternoon on 10m with my 5W.
>
> What is producing these effects. Doesn't seem to be anything to do
> with the sun as all is stonely quiet there and certainly nothing to
> produce huge auroras? Always thought solar weather was a black art
> (and in this case BLACK seems to be the key word!).
>
> By the way I gave both John GM4SLV and Ray GI3PDN calls last night
> but nil response so it looks like my qrpp ain't getting that far.
> Signals seemed nothing out of the usual, normal peaking 589 with deep
> QSB to noise level at times, I have certainly heard both John and Ray
> at better signals so not convinced aurora or not it was affecting
> 500kHz (certainly no auroral tones).
>
> Will very shortly be reconfiguring my vertical back to its Top Band
> configuration for the winter season so will be back in the spring if
> we still have NOVs.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>



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Zitat von Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Thank's for pointing this out Uwe!
>
> I will correct this error as soon as possible.
>
> I also noticed your beacon is back on air with a better signal here 
> than before,
> at an evening best of approximately S3-S3.5 over noise.
>
> How is the activity from the other DI-beacons? I haven't been able to hear or
> see signals from them yet.
>

Hi Paul-Henrik,
pse see

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

there they are visible.

regards
Uwe



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:57:06 +0100
"Chris Trayner" <C.Trayner@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Johan,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email.
> 
> > "Radcomic" is becoming too much of an advertisment 
> > orgy! ... I don't want to pay for these ad's anymore...


> Forgive me for pointing it out, but you're not paying for the ads.
>

Hello LF,

Whilst we might not be paying the advertisers for the ads I think
Johan's point was "I don't want to pay money to the RSGB to receive the
ads".

I've just flicked through this month's rather poor RADCOM and make the
following observation:-

Ignoring the "pull out and throw away "Radio Sport roundup"

Total Pages         93
Pages of RSGB's own Ads     9
Pages with commercial Ads   28
Pages with technical content    15

Regular columnists, news, product review a large, and to me
irrelevant, story about yet another a DXpedition and letters etc make up
the rest. 

Of the technical content "Technical Topics" made up 4 of the
pages, leaving 11 spread over :-

EI9GQ's excellent "Homebrew"    4
SDR             2
Technical Correspondance    1
Antennas            2
In Practice         2

None of the technical articles were actual "one off" or
from a series of articles, they were the normal regular content.

I've often wondered about writing something for RADCOM but have
been put off by the need to conform to some house style, to pass
some form of "peer review", and for constructional articles to be
provably repeatable (don't want the little dears to go to the trouble
of buying a soldering iron and some BC109s only to find it doesn't
work first time.... )


What we need is something like SPRAT, but on a bigger scale and
not just for QRP, where the construction projects are more like
"here's an idea I've had, I got mine to work using the following
circuits/components. Use it as a starting point for your own
experimentation." 

The writer can happily assume that the reader has some technical ability
and can source components themselves and can fault find and fiddle and
alter things for their own particular needs. Of course if a particular
component is vital to success then by all means indicate a source for
it, but assume the reader has a junk-box and knows how to use it!

RADCOM will never allow this kind of article.


Just my thoughts...


RADCOM has had some great construction projects in recent years - the
PiC-a-STAR for example. I had no intention of building one but enjoyed
reading the articles nonetheless.

4 pages on "how to fit a PL-259" sums up the current need to meet the
aspirations of its current readership I'm afraid.

Cheers,


John GM4SLV


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? Is this a keyboard-keyboard mode ? is it linea or 'fsk'

EER Transverter , not seeing anything on google, is there a link for it ?

Tnx

G ..



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> Jim,
>
>> I am currently (0120) running some tests on about 503.5k using DF6NM's
>> Chirped Hellschreiber mode - any reports welcome if anyone is still up.
>
> excellent copy here. Screenshot attached.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp


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Andy and the list,
  Rec'd the following from Joe Taylor:

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From: Joe Taylor <joe@Princeton.EDU>
To: k2ors@comcast.net
Subject: Re: JT-2 on 500kHz
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:15:48 +0000
> Hi Warren,
> 
> The WSJT6 User's Guide and Reference Manual should tell you what you 
> need to know about general operation of the program.  You can download 
> it from the WSJT Home Page, http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ . 
> A direct link to the manual is
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJT_User_600.pdf .
> 
> The manual does not explicitly cover the new experimental modes JT2 and 
> JT4.  Their operation is very similar to the JT65 modes, however.
> 
> WSJT always operates with timed T/R sequences.  For JT65, JT2, and JT4 
> these are one minute each way.  Transmissions actually last for about 47 
> seconds; the remaining portion of your "Tx minute" is used for the other 
> station to decode your message so that he may reply suitably.  Tx and Rx 
> computer clocks mist be synchronized to within +/- one or two seconds. 
> A Tx/Rx sequence is started by toggling the Auto button to On.  You can 
> select whether you will "Tx First" (i.e., in the even-numbered minutes" 
> or not.
> 
> The program does not have a beacon mode, but it will transmit the same 
> message in alternate minutes as long as you wish.
> 
> If you let me know when you will transmit on 500 kHz (or, for that 
> matter, on one of the lower bands), I would be interested in listening.
> 
>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 
> 
> k2ors@comcast.net wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> > 
> >    I've seen your software mentioned on the RSGB and LWCA e-mail reflectors. I 
> downloaded WSJT 5.9.8 r558 and attempted to send JT-2 messages on 500kHz (I have 
> an experimental license that lets me do this), but was not successful and having 
> anyone decode it.
> > 
> > Basic Questions:
> > 
> > 1) How accurate does the PC clock need to be?
> > 2) I am assuming that the way you transmit is by filling in the text boxes in 
> the 
> > lower right of the screen next to Tx1 - Tx6 - and then press the corresponding 
> > button tx1...tx6 ?
> > 3) Is there a way to set up a repeating beacon message?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your help with this!
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 73 Warren K2ORS
> > WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> > WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> > 
> > FN42hi
> > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm



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Dear all,

just heard in CW with fair readibility GI3PDN at 23.55 UTC, Oct. 25th,
around 502,6 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

Nothing this night from GM3SLV and GI4DPE.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 


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Hello  Gentlemen,
this  is my first  post to LF group. I joined you because i  am 
finishing ( optimistic version)  my setup for 137 kHz 
already, i have built from the scratch, the TX line and  i am finishing  
peripherial hardware  for the RX line  ( based upon EKD 315 receiver
 and probably also using MV61 Pegelmesser)  i do hope to make a 
successful qso with some  of you  some day
very likely i will also have few questions to you   in the forthcoming  
weeks...

                                                                                            
73 de Peter, SQ7MPJ
qth: Lodz, central Poland,  jo91rs


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Hi Mal, LF,

You wrote earlier today :-

> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after 
> dark.

I ran SpecLab as usual & I an receiving lots of lines/signals which are 
never there. In the lower part of the band I usually only see a line just 
over 501.900 KHz (that is the very strong line in the capture) all the other 
traces are normally there.

 I can't tell if it is conditions or something local.

Any comments welcome please.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: 160 mf


> Condx good at present on 160m I just worked RA3DOX at 1520 utc early
> afternoon here in bright sunshine.
> Using only 100w to a full wave inv L antenna. Mode normal CW
> Do not be surprised to work some dx to day on 600 m, especially after 
> dark.
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> 

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Andy Talbot wrote:

> While testing an IQ upconverter chip, I discovered I've got several
> tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
> output.  There is enough signal to see it on a frequency counter and
> view the AM on a scope.
> 
> There is presumably a transmitter nearby, and/or some curious
> resonance in the house wiring that accentuates pick up of this signal.
> Its not the LF antenna picking up the signal, so I'm wondering if the
> ring-main is forming a resonant loop :-)
> 
> Does anyone know where the transmitter site for this station is located?
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
> 
> 


Hello Andy,

I think you're near Southampton?
Best guess (you're a bit out of my area) is Fareham, 1KW (low power 
filler - HI!)

Found this listing too

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/freq_find/Ind_national.pdf

Any help?

John GM4SLV
Shetland


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In a recent message, hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote ...
>If u are restricted to BEACON MODE end of story.
>Some UK stations inflict themselves with BEACON MODE when they are permitted
>to have two way communications.This does not make sense.

You won't be hearing any beacons or data from me on 501-504kHz, Mal, as 
beacon and data operation is not included on my SRP NoV - just A1A CW.

The definition of a Beacon is in clause 17(g) of the Amateur Licence and 
is covered by clause 10 and Schedule 2.  I note that no Beacons are 
permitted below 1960kHz (not even on 136kHz) and even then can only be 
used for DF competitions.

I presume that UK stations operating Beacons on 501-504kHz and on 136kHz 
must have special permits to do so.  I do not.

73

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David G4DMP
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Last night , nil on 187 kHz !
Not listened to the 137 khz ,
it has been 3 weeks well that it did not function!
sorry for XES and XNS ! Please pass information
so that I can bring it into service.
The captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
73 J-P f1afj



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Hi All,

Running same as last night but 85 Hz shift.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hello Paul-Henrik,

I am not sure if this applies to the NRD-91 too, but with serveral 
radios used here (including, but not limited to KenwoodYaesuIcom), it's 
important not only to turn the AGC function off, but also to turn the 
manual RF gain down far enough, so the audio output level is a few dB 
below the normal output level (with AGC on, and RF gain at maximum). 
This avoids clipping in the IF or AF stages; providing enough headroom 
for stronger signals.
In all cases, this cured the effect of "blanked QRSS screens" from 
neighbouring stations on 137 kHz.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

(... called CQ for hours last weekend in normal CW from DK4U; no reply; 
but the antenna current meter jumped up to 2 Ampere which is the 
"mid-winter value". Looking forward for more activity soon; and possibly 
some 500m / 2200m crossband activity ...)


Paul-Henrik schrieb:
> I'm afraid I need a different receiver to sort that tight inferno out. The AGC
> off position of my NRD-91 RX does not completely turn off the AGC and the
> result is too much blanking in the FFT-picture from the stronger stations.
> Maybe I should try the FT-980 with a homebrew downconverter instead.
>
> Thanks for the info Uwe!
>
> 73's
>
> Paul-Henrik
>
>   



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LF,

Hearing G3WCE ( fairly sure it's that) calling CQ on 502.5, RST439 in
QRN

Despite many replies I haven't been able to raise him! This is a new
call to me, anyone have any info/contact details? 

QRZ.com says he's in Norfolk, but no email address.

Nice to hear a new call at least!

John
GM4SLV 
Clousta, Shetland



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Re-sent. Bounced by the reflector the first time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com]
Sent: 19 October 2007 19:52
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: dl1eie@darc.de
Subject: DL1EIE - Report


Dear Karl-Heinz, Arnim & LF,#

DL1EIE is "O" copy at this QTH. See attached screenshot. Slight "wobble" in
transmit frequency.

Antenna 1.2m square tuned loop, RX ICOM IC-PCR1000 with tuned pre-amp.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, S.E England

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OK, Tnx.
Its definitely Fareham then,  the MF mast only 5.5km away, on the top
of a hill and visible from the A27, near the M27 Junction.  Wondered
what that mast was radiating.

At 5500m,  1kW ERP works out 2.6uW /m^2,  or 31.5mV/m here, so I'm not
too surprised its that strong.   Now to filter the soundcard output.
 On the output of the upconverter chip, at 1.3GHz, I was seeing strong
sidebands at 1.2MHz and at first thought they were a sprog.  But it
was just the upconverter doing its job!

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On 02/10/2007, Tony Magon <tmagon@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Andy
>
> Virgin AM has a local transmitter at Fareham. Its only 1kw, but it puts
> in a very strong signal around the area. Have monitored it using a
> remote receiver at Gosport.
>
> Regards
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> Andy Talbot wrote:
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> > tens of millivolts of Virgin AM on 1215kHz coming out of my PC's audio
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.
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SLV and DPE was good 539 here this morning at 0500Z.<BR>
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Last night also good clear signals from XGJ and XES on or near 137.779. Warr=
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In my earlier mail I stated

> Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.

I should have said drifting up, as my Rx is set to LSB & I have not mirrored 
the image.

Sorry.

Gary.

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> Hi LF,
>
> They have collided !!!!
>
> Finbar is drifting down according to my earlier captures.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:05 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> Compare this capture with my earlier one of GI3PDN & GI4DPE, it looks 
>> like
>> they are on collision course.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:12 PM
>> Subject: LF: 500 KHz A cluster of GI's
>>
>>
>>> Hi LF,
>>>
>>> Capture attached of GI3PDN & GI4DPE this afternoon 1406 utc. Both strong
>>> and
>>> audible using normal morse (CW).
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>>
>>
> 



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How about writing a few letters to the editor about the appalling
tabloid route the Radcomic is taking?

Giles (editor)  himself is a bit concerned about the route the comic
is moving, but I get the feeling he is being pushed by the RSGB Mafia,
sorry the Board.   The two job titles that used to run the magazine
were "Editor" and "Technical Editor"    now   they are "Managing
Editor" and  "Features Editor" .  That sez it all!

Andy  G4JNT


On 25/10/2007, Reeves Paul <Paul.Reeves@uk.thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> How about the strange new appearances? I was intrigued by 'Radio Sports' and
> had visions of pole vaulting with 136KHz verticals, throwing the FT817 and
> weight lifting with the R-390. But no, just more contests.....
>
> 73s
> Paul   g8gja
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Talbot [mailto:andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 24 October 2007 10:53
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: RADCOM
>
>
> My Radcom seems to be missing all the technical articles -
> In fact, I don't recall seeing them in any issue over the last year or so.
>
> Who else has noticed this unfortunate trend for sections to go missing :-(
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 24/10/2007, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:40:58 -0000
> > "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Has Radcom ceased production. No sign of it this month.
> > >
> > > G3KEV
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Mal
> >
> > I got mine yesterday, all the way up here. In the same delivery
> > was this month's QST and on Monday this quarter's SPRAT. Too much to
> > read, so little time!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
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Many tnx fer rprt Gary my info qrz.com
  vy 73 petefmt

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi All at LF,

Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-

G0NBD - RTTY beacon
GW4HXO - CW beacon
GI4DPE - CW & tone beacon
M0FMT - QRSS beacon
G3VXL - QRSS beacon
G3XIZ - QRSS beacon

Not quite so strong :-

G0MRF - multi mode beacon

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



       
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<div>Many tnx fer rprt Gary my info qrz.com</div>  <div>vy 73 petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi All at LF,<BR><BR>Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-<BR><BR>G0NBD - RTTY beacon<BR>GW4HXO - CW beacon<BR>GI4DPE - CW &amp; tone beacon<BR>M0FMT - QRSS beacon<BR>G3VXL - QRSS beacon<BR>G3XIZ - QRSS beacon<BR><BR>Not quite so strong :-<BR><BR>G0MRF - multi mode beacon<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;


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ADDED  PSK31 , CENT 503K

Fow weak  signal comparison ,  .


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Subject: LF: AMTOR FEC / RTTY DATA , TEST, CENT 503 KHZ 20:00 > 24:00


> 20:00 > 24:00  approx .
>
> Running , test , AMTOR - FEC 85 HZ SHIT   ~  RTTY 45.45 . 85 HZ SHIFT
>
> FREQ
>
> 503.15    RTTY
> 503    502.85    FEC
> In use , MMTY , 'normal,  RTTY Multipsk ,  Amtor-fec
> Tx set ,  502, usb . , tone freq, cent 1000  Hz   + 150 , rtty , -150 Fec
> Tnx
>
> Graham ..
>
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>
>
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> -- 
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>
> 




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Hello Joe ,

Last night , if I trust the capture of John, on the NA frequency there=20
is a trace at 05:10 (see Capt_96) it is perhaps a beginning ?=85.
The captures of night are at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj




Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Thanks for monitoring.  It seems the frequency stability
> has been improved by the latest changes and this should
> improve your chances of reception.
>
> Bon chance, J-P and thanks for monitoring.
> Joe
>
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, [windows-1252] Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>
>  =20
>> Last night , nil on my sceen !......
>> The captures of night are at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
>> 73 J-P f1afj
>>
>>    =20
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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Mal,

  Yes, its on Lyle's web site:
http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/

 Look for the file mfj259.zip  halfway down the list of links on his page.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> Hi all
> Does anyone know of a modification to extend the lower range of the MFJ 259
> B ant analyzer to cover 136 and 500 khz.
> de Mal/G3KEV
> 
> 



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Hi All at LF,

Very strong signals seen/heard from the following :-

G0NBD - RTTY beacon
GW4HXO - CW beacon
GI4DPE - CW & tone beacon
M0FMT - QRSS beacon
G3VXL - QRSS beacon
G3XIZ - QRSS beacon

Not quite so strong :-

G0MRF - multi mode beacon

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Mal,

Send them a summary (a couple of paragraphs) and see if they are interested.=
  If they bite, don't worry about following their typographic standards.  I=20=
would expect that, like most periodicals, they will reset your copy anyway.=20=
 The same goes for illustrations.  They will tell you what they need for pho=
tographs but as far as diagrams they will redraw them to their house style.

John=20

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 25/10/2007 at 16:12 hamilton mal wrote:

[ ... ]

>My EASY START tx should be easy to get going for most and I would submit th=
e cct but I do not want to get bogged down with preparation details and find=
 it would not be published in Radcom.  My cct consists of an IC706 transmitt=
ing a couple of watts on 5 mhz / sq wave conv / divide by 10 / amplified by=20=
a 4426 / FET pa / matching coil/C
cct for class E then an old TV line out transformer matching the pa to 50 oh=
ms / 5 pole LPF / SWR meter and away the rf goes via 50ohm coax some 50 metr=
es to the base of the antenna matching network / 1/4 wave inv L at about 33=20=
metres vertical and the rest horizontal.

>This is my approach and gives VFO control and good freq stability.  Most of=
 the components were from the junk box hence an economical build. To >date i=
t has proved totally reliable and no smoke. Using this approach would >be an=
 EASYSTART for those contemplating 500.  The PA coil is about 50 years old,=20=
 ex TU5 tuning unit ceramic former with a tinned copper winding, just right=20=
for the job. The condensers are also ex equipment, high voltage.

>Is Radcom interested???






