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Hello Hartmut
 
Thanks for the reports.  I wonder if you have posted the  report for 
WD2XSH/17 onto the reports page at .www.500kc.com.  It may  encourage someone further 
west to try an evening of QRS3 aimed at Europe.
 
My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX  and 
5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the 
house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. However the 
antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity 
towards you due to 'reflection' ??
 
73
 
David    
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 16/09/2007 08:24:19 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:


>From  the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
from G0MRF  was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
higher  power.

Captures and signal plots can be seen  here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:  JO52hp







   

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Cq cross band ,

Running psk TX >  on 502.5 Khz ,

-QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.579  MHz  (usb)

-QSK- Please call if you copy the 502.5 Khz signal,  3.578 monitor running 
in parallel with tx

Tnx - Graham ..

G0NBD . 




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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:53:26 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> John
> 
> Brian has said to me during QSOs that he has a high urban noise
> level. 

Thanks for the info Tom.

This just adds to the weight of argument for an increased ERP limit. My
100mW just can't make it through to "normal" stations even though the
path loss is acceptable. The remote noise floor is often too high.

Brian must radiate well enough as he's consistently readable by ear -
on the loudspeaker - during the day.

Thanks.

John
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Andy, Graham

Sorry but I'm not going to be any help sorting out the difficulty with Jason since all machines here
are running 98SE. I'm sure Alberto would be interested to hear about the problem and want to resolve
any issues. Not sure if he still monitors this list an e mail might be in order.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>
> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> OS  - which is a
> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> > wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> >
> > running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> >
> > G ..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >
> >
> > > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> > >
> > > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> > >
> > > Jason software can be found here:
> > >
> > > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> > >
> > > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > > PSKFEC31.
> > >
> > > Reception reports are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > > 9/21/2007 14:02
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



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Hello,

Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com wrote:
> Please get a look for example at http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/LWBC.pdf for a quite up-to-date list of LW broadcast transmitters.

216 kHz Oslo/Norway has been QRT for years and 243 kHz
Kalundborg/Denmark went QRT on Feb 15 2007 after ~80 years on the air..

73
Johan SM6LKM



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Lots of stations beaconing tonight, GM4SLV is 539 'fast' CW G0NBD and of cou=
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy WD2XES and WD2XKO
Very noisy (thunderstorm)

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Have put up a temporary active 'ferrite rod' antenna, only 3m up. ends E-W
Impressive results DI2AM is 559, SM6BHZ also.
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not dissimilar to what I have heard on the inverted L, though tonight I cann=
ot do a direct comparison.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Impressive results DI2AM is 559, SM6BHZ=20
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Hallo LF and Finbar!
There is very hard QRN this evening, but I have seen nice signal on
501,318kHz. It is audible 319 as well! Sorry, about bad QRN.
 
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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Thanks for the report John, nice to know the signal is making it up there. I
was trying to work F6CNI crossband to 80 on CW and ended up working F6BWO
crossband on QRS!
Had a two-way CW QSO with Jeff on 136 this morning where we can run some
welly..

73 Dave G3YXM

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> Hello LF,
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> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
> on 502.7kHz. I hear Mal G3KEV now calling CQ on 502.5 at the same time!
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> John GM4SLV
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Thanks for the report John, nice to know the signal is making it up there. I was trying to work F6CNI crossband to 80 on CW and ended up working F6BWO crossband on QRS!<br>Had a two-way CW QSO with Jeff on 136 this morning where we can run some welly..
<br><br>73 Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 22/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello LF,<br><br>I&#39;ve just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
<br>on 502.7kHz. I hear Mal G3KEV now calling CQ on 502.5 at the same time!<br><br>Regards,<br><br>John GM4SLV<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Good conditions tonight! All beacons has been very strong, nice signal
from DI2BO (1.7mW ERP!).
 
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Very high noise level during the night. Copied RA3YO sending "Y" and
UA4WPF sending "W" 17:30-18:45.

Due to the high noise level only poor copy of the 3 T/A signals
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS 23:30-04:30

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John - I think the clock was set to GMT. I checked the computer in the morni=
ng after resuming power and thats what appeared and checked out against NST.
=20
I was hoping to get 3 hours reception on the PC with second unit battery but=
 I seem to have gained a DVD in the slot.....too much rush out of Singapore.=
 Ill be looking again this evening.
=20
Thanks for the signals. It was a cold morning with temps below freezing and=20=
snow on the lower part of themountains here
=20
Laurence KL1X/Mobile
BP51
=20



> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:49:46 -0400> From: w1tag@w1tag.com> To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz 16/17th Sep> > Laurence,> > Wi=
th some imagination, that does look like an S on the left and most of > an X=
 on the right. The frequencies are certainly right. Was the clock > time (of=
f as it may be) supposed to be UTC?> > Interesting!> > John Andrews, W1TAG>=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>John - I think the clock was set to GMT. I checked=
 the computer in the morning after resuming power and thats what appeared an=
d checked out against NST.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I was hoping to get 3 hours reception on the PC with second unit battery but=
 I seem to have gained a DVD in the slot.....too much rush out of Singapore.=
 Ill be looking again this evening.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the signals. It was a cold morning with temps below freezing and=20=
snow on the lower part of themountains here<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X/Mobile<BR>
BP51<BR>
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&gt; Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:49:46 -0400<BR>&gt; From: w1tag@w1tag.com<BR>=
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h Sep<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Laurence,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; With some imagination, tha=
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y be) supposed to be UTC?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Interesting!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Joh=
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Chris, LF

I'm off work today and just looked at the grabber here and see G3XIZ in
QRSS (slower than 3 sec dots?) nicely at around 503.95.

Not bad for daytime to Shetland.

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You can have as many cards as you like - try a USB one like the Edirol
UA-1EX for good quality audio, or the Logitech headset for headphone /
boom-mic.

Or do HP have some sort of corrupted operating systems that isn't
properly windows compliant?  Back in the days of real DOS, HP machines
were notorious for being "different"

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


On 16/09/2007, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone).
>
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am using one, the other must be inactive.
>
> Has anyone any comments, please?
>
> John F5VLF
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>


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The new ones heard the past days:

02.09.2007  08:45  321  SP   DNK   Vojens / Skrydstrup
17.09.2007  02:48  332  YFM  CAN   La Grande 4
17.09.2007  02:46  334  AR   ISL   Akureyi
17.09.2007  04:26  343  TST  ENG   Redhill
17.09.2007  04:18  390  VP   CAN   Kuujjuaq / Kujack

73
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Several weeks ago following a request for comments in preparation for a
meeting with Ofcom, I received a number of useful inputs from holders of the
500kHz NoV.  The meeting was the standard quarterly Ofcom/RSGB Forum that
covers, as one might expect, a wide range of issues. =20

I reported on how UK amateurs are getting on with their 500kHz NoVs and made
a strong plea for an increase in the permitted ERP level as well as an
extension to the period of the NoV.  This was well taken, albeit without
immediate feedback.  Ofcom explained that they need to take note of the
forthcoming WRC07 where the IMO are making a strong pitch for re-use of the
area around 500kHz, however, given that any implementation of new
allocations could be lengthy there could be a window for further
experimental use. There was also some indication that they might agree to an
increase in ERP.=20

So at this stage we have put our case for greater ERP and a longer duration
for the NoV; Ofcom have heard our case and will respond in due course.  Now
is not the time to start building that QRO TX!

I would like to thank all who responded to my call for input and comments,
in particular to John, GM4SLV and Jim, M0BMU.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only trace of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

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Hello Jay.
 
Is there any documented information on the detail of applying forward error  
correction to PSK31?  
 
I have a beacon running here which has CW and PSK31 coded into a fixed  
message on a PIC16F84 controller chip, but I also have an interest in using FEC  
for this and some AMSAT projects.
 
Presumably, you have a dedicated piece of receive software for the  decoding?
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 23/09/2007 11:17:25 GMT Standard Time,  
JRusgrove@comcast.net writes:


Tonight's test will be PSK31 and PSKFEC31. I'll let the transmitter  run 
until 0300Z and post a
schedule later this morning.

Thanks again  for watching...always amazed at what you can dig out!

Jay W1VD   WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2







   

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<DIV>Presumably, you have a dedicated piece of receive software for the=20
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Alberto  reminded me that this issue of Jason appearing to lock-up was
mentioned earlier here.  Set the compatibility mode for the Jason
software to Win98/ME and it works fine.    I did this for Tcube too,
which had shown a similar problem once or twice.

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt




On 23/09/2007, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I can make Jason run by launching it twice, then going into Task
> Mnager and deleting the first instance of Jason.exe from the process
> list - the second instance  appears, lower down..   After deleting the
> first one, the prog bursts into life    I've sent the details to
> Alberto..
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Andy,
> >
> > Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio
> > of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a
> > few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc ,
> > with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based
> > spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the
> > original .
> >
> > G ..
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >
> >
> > > I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> > > appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> > > and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> > > an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> > > based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
> > >
> > > I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> > > OS  - which is a
> > > Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
> > >
> > > Andy  G4JNT
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> > >> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> > >>
> > >> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> > >>
> > >> G ..
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> > >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> > >> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz
> > >> > as
> > >> > follows:
> > >> >
> > >> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> > >> >
> > >> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> > >> >
> > >> > Jason software can be found here:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> > >> >
> > >> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > >> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > >> > PSKFEC31.
> > >> >
> > >> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > >> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > >> > 9/21/2007 14:02
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > > 9/21/2007 14:02
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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John.

Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew PA0SE 
must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we have 
to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is sufficiently 
well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.

73 Malcolm.

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Malcolm,
>
>> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>
> Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the 
> calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is 
> being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power and 
> take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry and 
> current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains valid 
> as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field 
> conditions.
>
> A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler 
> arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 




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Hello LF,

Since every 500kHz QSO is a milestone for me I thought I'd report
another new station worked.

I heard G3DXZ calling CQ at 18:35 UTC. I've answered many of his CQs in
the past to no avail but tonight he replied to my reply. I nearly fell
off my chair!

Conditions weren't too good - with some QSB and severe QRN but we
exhanged RST, name, QTH, station details and even a WX report (stromy
up here, as usual!)

As I type this he is even stronger, calling CQ again.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland Is.




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I'm glad the grabber is coming in handy.
Beware of making any comparisons night-for-night with it.. I use a rotatable
Welbrook receiving loop to feed the grabber receivers and I have to turn it
to remove various local noises which come and go. One day you might just be
in the null!

73
Dave G3YXM

On 27/09/2007, Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but
> even John was up and down,
> I am running now on 503.000
> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:01 PM
> Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>
>
>
> > Hi, John, LF,
> >
> > You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> > detect any sign of Mark however.
> >
> > RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
> >
> > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> > Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> > Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
> > "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> >>
> >> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> >> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> >> > be a first for me!?
> >>
> >> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
> >> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.
> >
> >
> > Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!
> >
> >
> > I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
> > I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
> >
> >
> > I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
> > one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
> > give it a try.
> >
> > I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
> > permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
> > time.
> >
> > Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.
> >
> > You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
> > in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
> > had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
> > the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
> > It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.
> >
> > We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
> > Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.
> >
> > I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
> > (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.
> >
> > Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)
> >
> > John GM4SLV IP90gg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date:
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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I&#39;m glad the grabber is coming in handy.<br>Beware of making any comparisons night-for-night with it.. I use a rotatable Welbrook receiving loop to feed the grabber receivers and I have to turn it to remove various local noises which come and go. One day you might just be in the null!
<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk">markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
seems condx not stable, I was on Dave&#39;s grabber fb before and after, but<br>even John was up and down,<br>I am running now on 503.000<br>Mark GM4ISM IO85AR<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Dave G3WCB&quot; &lt;
<a href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:01 PM
<br>Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber &lt;GM4SLV&gt;<br><br><br>&gt; Hi, John, LF,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn&#39;t<br>&gt; detect any sign of Mark however.<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; RX is a W&amp;G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: <a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
</a><br>&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]On Behalf Of John<br>&gt; Pumford-Green GM4SLV<br>&gt; Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35<br>&gt; To: <a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100<br>&gt; &quot;Dave Sergeant&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dave@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; After a few CQ calls I&#39;ve put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; ninutes and see my signal on Dave&#39;s grabber in Birmingham. That must
<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; be a first for me!?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I<br>&gt;&gt; heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave&#39;s grabber,<br>&gt; I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer<br>&gt; one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn&#39;t hang around and<br>&gt; give it a try.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;m starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
<br>&gt; permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first<br>&gt; time.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Was hearing by ear G3XIZ&#39;s QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
<br>&gt; in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We<br>&gt; had a ball. I&#39;m hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off<br>&gt; the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
<br>&gt; It&#39;s no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We&#39;ve been received at good readable strength in Finland now by<br>&gt; Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;ve heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
<br>&gt; (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; John GM4SLV IP90gg<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<br>&gt; Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>&gt; Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date:<br>&gt; 27/09/2007 11:06
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br><br>--<br>No virus found in this outgoing message.<br>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date: 27/09/2007 11:06<br><br><br><br></blockquote>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hello LF gang,

That was some night!

Worked a new G station in Chas G3DXZ.

Worked the first ever GM - GM on 500 with GM4ISM (at 519km it even
qualifies as "DX"!)

Finbar GI4DPE was the lynchpin of the next great QSOs... I worked GI3PDN
with the best signals I've ever heard from Ray and then worked the first
GM - GW with GW4HXO (at a distance of approx 950km)

Many listener reports have come in by email that I need to deal with
too.

Let's have more nights like this!

The QRN and QSB was still quite bad, but signals were generally up on
normal and able to cope better.

I noticed Mark GM4ISM's signal was suffering the affects worst of all,
with deep QSB and fast drop outs of individual letters. Some strange
multipath propagation? I've noticed similar effects from time to time
before on Finbar's signal during "marginal" conditions between us.

The weather up here is awful - stormy winds and heavy showers of static
rain wiping out the band from time to time.

There was much dial twiddling as everyone seemed to be on different
frequencies - and with a 10Hz filter there's not much margin for error! 

Great fun... 

Cheers and good night,

John GM4SLV,
Shetland
IP90gg


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Wanted , software to  'Grab'  'Grabbers'

I know windows tends to  be a event driven process,

But is there a prog , that works with windows , that will , download and 
save the grabber website screens , or the Jpeg file if its available ?

You would have to  give it the path and the time period , leave it and come 
back  to  as many saved files as you like .. as long as you dident fill the 
hard drive ..

You could  then look over the 'data' later on ... for example , if you run a 
beacon over night  a save every 15 mins would give a good idea of the path .

Any ideas etc ???

Graham ..





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Just copied GM4ISM with Q3 in QSO with GI4DPE at S0,5 over noise on 503kHz
Then GI4DPE works GW4HXO on same QRG, both are S0,5 over noise

Right now GM4ISM is calling CQ with Q5 signal on 503,2

Amazing condx atm!


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hi Dmitry,

My grabber is now set for 120S dots 137777.75 kHz.

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
__________________________________________

Dmitry wrote:-----Original Message-----
> I'm ready to beacons on 137777.75 dfcw120 at 15:50 utc
>
> Dmitry
> RA3YO
>
> KO73dg


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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia and America,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) arrived well by the back of the antenna.
On the American continent good copy of WD2XNS, WD2XES and traces of WD2XKO.
the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Ge LF.

nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!

look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ge LF.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi all,
  my first report on 137 whit my "500" T antenna (with 2mH).
G3XIZ 10:10 local
This morning BWO QSO XIZ 11:30 local
Marc F5MAF
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Hi All -
   
  Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY on about 503 kHz.
   
  Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id - anyone else copy it?
   
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<div>Hi All -</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY on about 503 kHz.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id - anyone else copy it?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian (G3YKB)</div><p>&#32;


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Hello LFers !

Last night many storn ! I copy only WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
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Chris,

peaking rst 559 in wallasey ,  in qso with finbar .. very deep qsb , zero si=
g in the dips ..=20

active night hihi

Graham ..
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris McCarthy=20
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  Subject: Re: LF: GI4DPE beacon audible in Suffolk


   now peaking RST 549 QSB


  On 23/09/2007, Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:=20
    Finbar,
    Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
    (400 miles)


    73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>peaking rst 559 in wallasey ,&nbsp; in qso=20=
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finbar .. very deep qsb , zero sig in the dips .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;now peaking RST 549 QSB<BR><BR>
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Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 

21:50  local , seeing nothing , 

quite low uniform noise level 

Only trace I have is  504 

Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK 



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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the impressing reports!

Abt 18z Vlad UA6LV looked my signal on a site Laurence
http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg - looked there was a very strong signal, which would
for certain be looked in 30s mode and more powerful than yesterday Sep19
probably propagation R6L-ZL is improved

R6L-9V QRB abt 8050km i.e 9V is on abt half of path R6L - New Zealand

Today I'll try to TX on 137778 in DFCW120 and I'll do the beverage
(BOG) abt 2km long to Europe and testing RX parts after 20z

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru

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Only a few reports received last night. Due to high static conditions, and generally poor reception
of all three modes, not much worthwhile came from the test. Will run the test again under quieter
conditions. Thanks to the all who participated in the test.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
based software packages won't run until the process is closed.

I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
OS  - which is a
Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.

Andy  G4JNT


On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>
> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as
> > follows:
> >
> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> >
> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> >
> > Jason software can be found here:
> >
> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> >
> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > PSKFEC31.
> >
> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Thanks Garry for the report.
73
Chris G3XVL Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB

On 18/09/2007, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris, LF,
>
> Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
> OK. Not audible so far.
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> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Thanks Garry for the report.<br>73<br>Chris G3XVL Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Gary - G4WGT</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Chris, LF,<br><br>Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
<br>OK. Not audible so far.<br><br>73<br><br>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Ok John,

Fine on that, well have a look back in you files , about   9 till midnigh 
i saved one file at 21:12 , shows a qsy , hf which resulted in the carriers 
dropping out ..
the bham plots also show the strenght changing with frequency, but still 
inside the 'normal' qsb time  of  60/90 seconds . Stopped the test after 
about 1 hour and set the cw beacon running.

Next time , ill see if i can get a signal top/middle and bottom band .. see 
if changes the pattern ?


Tnx

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:24:54 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of
>> been sendiong  io83fk   .....
>
>
> Hi Graham,LF
>
> My mistake! It was IO83LK... That'll teach me for trying to read CW
> visually and then remembering it in order to write an email.
>
>
>> Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band
>> display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the
>> amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks
>> like the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked
>> at birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two
>> data streams , testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not
>> show on your site, till some time after the lower one .. odd
>
>
>
> I will have a look through the captures and see if I can spot the
> effects you mention. If you need any pics I can send them down. Each 5
> minute capture is stored here.
>
>
> Wonder if the auroral conditions played any part in the propagation?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 9/28/2007 15:40
>
> 




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Ge Dmitry.

yes i see, but your signal is also "O" now any dwn.

Ed HRE
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  Ge Ed

  dl2hre wrote:

    Ge LF.

    nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!
  It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA

  Dmitry
  RA3YO


    look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at=20
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Solid copy of WD2XSH/6 in QRSS3 02:50-03:05 over a distance of 4964mi
or about 7900km on 505.266kHz . Nice CW copy of WD2XSH/17 on
505.75kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF.


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Brief copy of the Jason Fast transmission from WE2XGR/2 on 508.5 kHz
about 01:45. From the Jason Normal transmission until 01:00 I got only
a few signs, but no full copy of the message.

Copied the WD2XSH/17 part of the QSO between XSH/17 and XSH/6. From
WD2XSH/6 some traces were visible during the QSO but not much
readable. Copied a brief "/6" later on 505.265 when WD2XSH/6 was back
in beacon mode.

>From the UK copied G0MRF and G3XIZ.

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How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind .... 
wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..

running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date

G ..

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as 
> follows:
>
> 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>
> 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>
> Jason software can be found here:
>
> http://www.weaksignals.com/
>
> Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow 
> night's test will be PSK31 /
> PSKFEC31.
>
> Reception reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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>
>
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>
> -- 
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> 9/21/2007 14:02
>
> 




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Hi Mike,

> Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
> this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 

      Yes that is what 2 million watts into a good antenna will do....

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Hi Jean-Pierre I guess that is Ed RU6LA with his special call-sign ??

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> Hello Hall ,
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> What is " L " transmission !
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When I looked at my captures this morning I first thought a new EU
beacon was on air on 505 kHz. I need a few seconds to realize that it
was WD2XSH/17. Copied the CW signal very strong until 00:59 on 505.75
kHz and the QRSS3 signal on about 505.26 kHz. I have posted several
captures to my website.

>From the UK I copied G3XIZ and G0MRF.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hi all,

A change to the first part of the ZM2E LF DX night, we will be beaconing ZZZ=
Z... from 0600 to 0850z tonight 23 September, with timing to start a Z on th=
e hour and at 10 minute timing for each Z.

ZM2E will be listening out for UA0 or other calls from 0900z, and ZM2E will=20=
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73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A change to the first part&nbsp;of the ZM2E=
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Hi John, LF,

GM4SLV CW beacon audible here RST 519. Although not moving S meter audibly 
S1 with 100 Hz audio filter.

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Hi LF,

 I set up an internet audio stream some time ago to broadcast the QRSS part
 of the 2200 m band and seems to be ready for a larger audience.
 It does not produce static images as grabbers do, instead it acts as a
 remote receiving location which means you get real time baseband audio.
 
 The audio stream uses the OGG Vorbis data format (to get rid of the non
 free MP3) with a 44100 Hz sample rate. It might look a bit oversized at
 first glance, but lower values such as 11025 give inacurate frequency
 reading with some sound cards.

 The RX tuning frequency, usually 137700 or 137778, is transposed to 700 Hz
 for the audio stream. The frequency error is less than 0.1 Hz when used
 with a properly calibrated sound card without excessive drift.

 If you connect to the server, you likely will hear the typical hiss/noise,
 and no more. So you have to run your own spectrum analysis tools
 (SpectrumLab or Argo) and choose whatever parameter you decide to run.
 It's really up to you !

 How to connect the server ?

 1) from your favorite browser http://f5wk.dyndns.org:8000
    and then "Click to Listen"

 2) from Winamp  http://f5wk.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg


 I suggest you use Winamp (VLC should work) with the waveOut output plug-in
 and a stock SpectrumLab and the quick settings.
 You don't need a second sound card to establish an audio connection between
 Winamp and SpectrumLab *IF* you can configure your audio mixer to read from
 the waveIn source line (ie record from "What you ear")

 Due to my limited upload capability, the stream server does not allow more
 than 6 simultaneous connections. Sorry about that ...

 Server is now up and running ...

  73 de Michel f5wk
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Hello,
I got an old LF Receiver -> Teletron LWF4a.=20
It's working fine. (I checked this today in transmitting with my
LF-Exciter). So far so good, but this receiver is just a fixed frequency
receiver (quartz crystal of 131.7KHz). Actual receiving frequency is
"134.2KHz".=20

Does anyone know this receiver and if yes, is it possible to trim it for
~137.700KHz?
Will it be a new crystal or is it just adjusting the band pass filters?

Many thanks and a nice weekend

vy73
Marco
DD7PC

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de
http://dd7pc.qsl.nu


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Hello Ed  and all ,
Tnx for info ,
73 qro J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =C3=A9crit :
> GM Jean-Piere, LF.
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> between 1900 and 1930utc i see also W for UA4WPF on 137.7772KHz on=20
> your screen.
>  i captured yesterday:
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> 73 Ed DL2HRE
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9"=20
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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> Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WKO , L , YO
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> Hello LF ,
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> This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
> =E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
> On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.
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> the captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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Visitez mon site radioamateur =C3=A0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=C3=A9 avec AVAST Home =C3=A9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Yes excellent conditions this afternoon.  I wish I had tuned in much 
earlier.  I started to observe ZM2E when I first tuned in around 1.5 
hours before my local sunset time.  Currently I am still in bright 
sunlight at this end.

In reply to your question - My receiver is a Yaesu FT-920 
(transceiver).  I would have thought that it's performance down on 137 
would have been rather poor.  Surprisingly it seems to work quite well.  
My antenna is 250M of 2.5 mm diameter galvanized fencing wire (no 
insulation).  The wire is sitting on damp grass (at ground level) and 
pointing roughly 90 degrees orientation from due North.  I have a 30M 
long coax feed with a Z = 9:1 toroidal isolation / matching transformer 
wound on an FT50-J core.

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

Jean-Pierre Mr wrote:
> Hello David ,
>
> Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
> David what your setup please ?
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>
> David Isele - VK6DI a crit :
>> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


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Im seeing very low sig 503  and 503.3 looks like qrss signal but cannot 
resolve

503 appeares to  be reaching shetland with same copy

also have good copy on finbar working  gm4ism , but nothing from gm4ism , 
assum is on same frequency ?

Grahm .. 




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Hello Alan  , tnx
73 qro Jean-Pierre

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre I guess that is Ed RU6LA with his special call-sign ??
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> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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Graham, LF,

Thanks for IDing the PSK signal. Perhaps next time I'll have a look on
top-band at the same time.

Finbar told me in QSO tonight that he's sorted out a top-band antenna
so a CW full-duplex crossband QSO might be in the offing! I can't
transmit on top band - no suitable antenna - but can receive with a
PS0RDT mini-whip fairly well at the same time as I TX on 500.

Thanks for the info on your interesting experiment.

John GM4SLV



On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:24:15 +0100
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> Ok John
> 
> That was me on 503  (g0nbd) in cross band  psk31 qso with Gary g4wgt
> on top band  , we managed a full duplex qso with little problem , we
> are looking into a  psk based arq mode , tonights qso was a dummy run
> with 'normal' psk31
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> Tnx - Graham ..
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> >> Hello LF,
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> >> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from
> >> G3YXM on 502.7kHz.
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> > Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3
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> > There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 -
> > only just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.
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> > There's some deep QSB around as well as some QRN.
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Hi John, LF,

CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW attached.

73

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The CW-signal from WD2XSH/17 was visible 00:59-03:16. Due to a higher
noise level I had some trouble to copy the signal. Brief copy only
about 0137 and 03:10. I posted CW-captures to my website showing
WD2XSH/17 on 505.75 kHz along with the EU beacons DI2AM, DI2AG and
OK0EMW.

>From the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
from G0MRF was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
higher power.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Dear LF enthusiasts,

yesterday has found out what the space freq of DCF39 was 138830.5 !
it is my mistake?

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Hello Chris, LF

I'm hearing Chris call CQ, very weak but readable in a very quiet band.
Admittedly using a 30dB tunable pre-amp and 10Hz audio filter!

Have relied to the CQ many times but no joy. Oh well. Another day?


Cheers,

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Hi LF
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

I understand the ID now.

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Hi, John, LF

GM4SLV heard calling GM4ISM on 502.244 kHz at 2045utc. GM4SLV is RST 559,
which is the strongest that I have heard you up to now. Plenty of deep QSB,
however.
Condx must be good tonight!


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
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  Subject: LF: [500] GM4ISM 500KHz NOV - report


  Hi Mark, LF,

  I just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking
RST 339 on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were
also showing up on the G3YXM grabber.

  Congratulations on making it down this far south!

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
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    Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz NOV


    Gents,
    I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this
evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna)
    I will announce details here.
    Regards
    Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
    www.dc2light.co.uk

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92007><SPAN   class=3D386511520-25092007>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S=
E=20
England.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTaho=
ma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave=20
  G3WCB<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 September 2007 21:26<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] GM4ISM 500KHz NO=
V -=20
  report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>Hi=20
  Mark, LF,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>I=20
  just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking RST=
 339=20
  on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were also=20
  showing up on the G3YXM grabber.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007>Congratulations on making it down this far=20
  south!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>73,=20
  Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTa=
homa       size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
    </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 September 2007 12:50<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: GM4ISM 500KHz=20
    NOV<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have received my NOV this morning, so=
 with=20
    luck I will be QRV this evening (so long as the wind is low enough to ra=
ise=20
    the antenna)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will announce details here.</FONT></D=
IV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM IO85AR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A       href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co=
.uk">www.dc2light.co.uk</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Dear LF,

unfortunately my LF grabber froze yesterday, as I have been unable to access 
any of my AOL webspace since. I have now temporarily moved it to

http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm 

Good luck to all
Markus, DF6NM
   

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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=
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<BR>
unfortunately my LF grabber froze yesterday, as I have been unable to access=
 any of my AOL webspace since. I have now temporarily moved it to<BR>
<BR>
<A HREF=3D"http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm">http://freenet-home=
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<BR>
Good luck to all<BR>
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For the first time I detected the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on
505.266 kHz here in Germany. For a clear identification I made a
comparison with a screenshot from the "Ohio grabber". The signal was
visible about 02:50-03:20.
The high static level makes the copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17
on 505.75 kHz difficult. Best around 01:35 and 02:30.

>From the UK I copied the DFCW signal from G3XIZ and the QRSS3 signal
from G0MRF.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hartmut
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Copied UA4WPF "W", RA3YO "Y" and RU6LA "L" from Russia between 17:00
and 19:30.
Again heavy static overnight. Across the pond copied XES, XKO and XNS.

Captures can be seen here:
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Cq cross band ,

Running psk TX >  on 503.00 Khz ,

-QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.580  MHz  (usb)

-QSK- Please call if you copy the 503  Khz signal,  3.580 monitor running 

in parallel with tx

Tnx - Graham ..

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John.

Scaling your figures to 500kHz that gives a distance of about 820 metres for 
1% error, which ties in very nicely with my 955 metres, give or take.

Malcolm
(G3NZP)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration


> Andy, all,
>
> Last year, I did a MathCad analysis of the fields from a small vertical 
> and a small magnetic loop at 137 kHz. The program calculated the vector E 
> and H fields, and the magnitude of E/H for distances from 1 to 10 km. For 
> the vertical, there are three terms to consider for the E field, and two 
> for the H field. The situation is reversed with the loop, with three terms 
> for the H field, and two for the E field.
>
> Comparing the calculated |E/H| values with the "far field" value of 377 
> ohms, the error was about 12% at 1 km and 1% at 3 km for both types of 
> antenna. The errors at 1 km were in opposite directions, as one would 
> expect, favoring the E field for the vertical, and the H field for the 
> loop.
>
> If you grant a measurement error of 1%, then it would be best to take 
> readings no closer than 3 km from a small 137 kHz antenna, which would be 
> lambda/(0.73). If higher errors are permissible, then you can move in, but 
> I'd have trouble recommending the 1 km figure at that frequency.
>
> As Andy points out, there is at least one other far-field concept that 
> doesn't apply to us LF hobbyists. That only refers to large antennas, 
> where the height of a vertical, for example, is significant compared to 
> the distance. A corollary occurs with multi-element arrays, where the 
> directional pattern is distorted if the spacing between the towers is 
> significant compared to the distance.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 




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Dear Dmitry, Ed, Andrey and LF enthusiasts,

TNX for reports and captures of my test beacon in yesterday

I have repaired in past weekend the Big TX Ant

I assume today and the next days (Sep 18 19 20 21) to give a beacons for East from SS
in R6L (abt 15z) till abt 21-22z on freq 137778 in DFCW60

I'll have the RX ant (BOG) since Wednesday (Sep 19) and I'll be ready
for 2way QSO after 21z and also RX MF's beacons

Reports are welcome to LF list and to my alternative email RU6LA@bk.ru

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Hello LFers !

Not to miss tests ZL/UA of next W E . I gave in service the grabber!
you will be able to reach it by :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Hello LF,

I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
on 502.7kHz. I hear Mal G3KEV now calling CQ on 502.5 at the same time!

Regards,

John GM4SLV


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David Isele - VK6DI wrote:

> Hello Dmitry,
>
> Was that your carrier on 137775?  Should I shift the center frequency 
> of my grabber?

???  :(

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> David, VK6DI.
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Real  frequency  is +0.1 Hz

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Hi all readers,

This coming weekend ZM2E will operate from Quartz Hill, looking for DX QSOs. 
Arrangements are still being finalised as to possible participating 
stations, from USA westwards to European Russia.  Operation is for ZL 
Saturday and Sunday nights, 22 and 23 September.  ZL sunset is 0615z, 
sunrise 1815z.  Hopefully being near the equinox could lead to good DX.

ZM2E is likely to consistently use 0.2 Hz FSK with 137776.2 and 137776.0 Hz 
emission.  We will QSY fractional Hz only if we think we could get QRM from 
someone else.

If ZM2E is not engaged in a QSO in remaining time before ZL sunrise at 1815z 
we will change to FSK120 beacon mode, sending ZZZ... with timing of the 
first element of a Z being on the hour, and each ten minutes thereafter (but 
noting 2 minute latency using Argo with 120 second dot length).  We are 
interested in reception reports from any captures on 137.776 kHz.

With mixed feelings, dismantling of Quartz Hill HF antennas starts this 
weekend.  Antennas need to be removed to give clear site conditions for wind 
turbine development works.  The ZM2E activity this weekend is likely to be 
the last from existing site infrastructure.

73, Bob ZL2CA




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John RABSON wrote:
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals. 
 > The existing soundcard is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone).
> 
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this computer.  They say I can have two soundcards
 > installed, but whenever I am using one, the other must be inactive.
> 
> Has anyone any comments, please?

  Install a second sound card properly configured, use it with a program that can make use of two sound cards at the 
same time, take a screen capture, and contact again those HP "experts" asking for help because your PC is not behaving 
as they said it should.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> David VK6DI, after the ZL-test I'll in beacon mode till 2210z (SR in
> you QTH) on 137.778 in DFCW120 - I hope your grabber will ON
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
>   
Hello Ed,

Yes my grabber will be watching 137.778 from around 1000 UTC onwards.

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Hi David, LF,

I got the same impression here in NW UK as I was seeing full qrss call 
letters comming out of the noise quite regularly when I don't normally see 
anything until quite late so it could be due to seasonal changes as we head 
towards winter.

Also saw & heard G3XIZ DFCW CQ calls quite strong but was unable to respond.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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>
> Hello Hartmut
>
> Thanks for the reports.  I wonder if you have posted the  report for
> WD2XSH/17 onto the reports page at .www.500kc.com.  It may  encourage 
> someone further
> west to try an evening of QRS3 aimed at Europe.
>
> My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX 
> and
> 5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the
> house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. 
> However the
> antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity
> towards you due to 'reflection' ??
>
> 73
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 16/09/2007 08:24:19 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de
> writes:
>
>
> From  the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
> from G0MRF  was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
> higher  power.
>
> Captures and signal plots can be seen  here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:  JO52hp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 


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>>>> CHANGE OF  QSX -  3,580   MHz <<<<<

80 mtrs is a little full ... :-)

Graham




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> Cq cross band ,
>
> Running psk TX >  on 502.5 Khz ,
>
> -QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.579  MHz  (usb)
>
> -QSK- Please call if you copy the 502.5 Khz signal,  3.578 monitor running 
> in parallel with tx
>
> Tnx - Graham ..
>
> G0NBD .
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Hi Andy.

Interesting, have a look at
http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via the 
500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small antennas) it says 
"It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a radiation 
field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 x 
lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from your 
equation.

So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the CCIR 
curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is within 
the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I have been 
measuring.

73 Malcolm
(G3NZP)

----- Original Message ----- 
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> There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
> to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
> and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
> This distance is usually taken to be
> 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.
>
> For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
> magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
> R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
> This value is usually taken as being
> lambda / (2.pi)
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> FOr LF field strength measurement
>
> On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> John.
>>
>> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew 
>> PA0SE
>> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we 
>> have
>> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is 
>> sufficiently
>> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>> 73 Malcolm.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>>
>>
>> > Malcolm,
>> >
>> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>> >
>> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
>> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
>> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power 
>> > and
>> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry 
>> > and
>> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains 
>> > valid
>> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
>> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
>> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>> >
>> > John Andrews, W1TAG
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 




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You seen WD2XKO on the air last night? Haven't heard from Dex all 
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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Very high noise level during the night. Copied RA3YO sending "Y" and
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> 
> Due to the high noise level only poor copy of the 3 T/A signals
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> Captures can be seen here:
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Hallo Finbar!
I saw signals on 501.4kHz this morning at 04:35Ut, I think it was your
beacon. I saw this signal clearly in QSSS3 mode on my PC, but I didn=B4t
hear it.
Thanks for your beaconing! For fareway stations, like me, it is good way
how to make experiments on 500kHz.
=20
Btw. How do you hear or see my beacon OK0EMW?
=20
73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Btw. How do you hear or see my beacon OK0EMW?<o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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I can make Jason run by launching it twice, then going into Task
Mnager and deleting the first instance of Jason.exe from the process
list - the second instance  appears, lower down..   After deleting the
first one, the prog bursts into life    I've sent the details to
Alberto..

Andy  G4JNT



On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio
> of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a
> few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc ,
> with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based
> spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the
> original .
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
> > I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> > appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> > and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> > an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> > based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
> >
> > I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> > OS  - which is a
> > Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> >> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> >>
> >> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> >>
> >> G ..
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> >> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >>
> >>
> >> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz
> >> > as
> >> > follows:
> >> >
> >> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> >> >
> >> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> >> >
> >> > Jason software can be found here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> >> >
> >> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> >> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> >> > PSKFEC31.
> >> >
> >> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> >> > 9/21/2007 14:02
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > 9/21/2007 14:02
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Hello David ,
It is : WD2XKO in EM95TG
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
> Vern, VE1VDM is now running his grabber on 137.  "KOX" is strong.

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Ge Ed

dl2hre wrote:

> Ge LF.
>  
> nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!

It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA

Dmitry
RA3YO

>  
> look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm
>  


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Ge Ed<br>
<br>
dl2hre wrote:<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Ge LF.</font></div>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at
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It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA<br>
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Ok Well, things look a bit 'black' at bham as well .. assume only G0MRF is s=
till sending , 24/7 ?
just a final check, 01-30 local , still no trace ,  here or bham . looks lik=
e a broken trace 503.7 on the GM screen,

not looked outside the 501-4 band .=20


Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris McCarthy=20
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  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:14 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Any Beacons sending at the moment ?


  Hello Graham,

  Here in Suffolk,
  I can hear=20
  G0MRF on 503.7=20
  and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.
  There is a DI2  further up heard.

  Chris G3XVL JO02NB



  On 17/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
    Any beacons sending at the moment ??

    21:50  local , seeing nothing ,

    quite low uniform noise level

    Only trace I have is  504

    Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK







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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok Well, things look a bit 'black' at bham=20=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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g at=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham,<BR><BR>Here in Suffolk,<BR>I can hear <BR>G0M=
RF=20
  on 503.7 <BR>and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.<BR>There is a=20
  DI2&nbsp; further up heard.<BR><BR>Chris G3XVL JO02NB<BR><BR><BR>
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Still calling on 502.245 , beacons DI2AM  589, DI2AG 549 OK0EMW 559 to nil,=20=
v deep slow QSB,
now some QRSS 'MR' on about 503.5
good condx tonight
Mark GM4ISM

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Yes, it has been on a few times on 503kHz this evening. Good audible copy in
KP03SD.

Quoting brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi All -
>
>   Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY=20=
on
> about 503 kHz.
>
>   Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id -
> anyone else copy it?
>
>   Brian (G3YKB)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Good morning Mike, 

You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)

http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=longwave_transmitter_allouis

VY 73: Jeff F6CWN

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> Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
> this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 
> Other stations coming in loud.
> 
> Mike
> WE0H
> 
>



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In a message dated 17/09/2007 21:07:07 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:

Hi  Graham,

> Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 
> 21:50   local , seeing nothing ,
> quite low uniform noise level
> Only  trace I have is  504
> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK

G0MRF  on 503.7 is visible here at the  moment.

73
Hartmut



Yes,  the field strength meter that sits on the kitchen windowsill  (and 
scares visitors when I tell them it measures electromagnetic radiation)  says the 
beacon is working as usual.
 
However, to see it you'll need to look in a narrow bandwidth. A full band  
view won't make it.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF



   

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There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
This distance is usually taken to be
2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.

For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
This value is usually taken as being
lambda / (2.pi)

Andy  G4JNT


FOr LF field strength measurement

On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> John.
>
> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew PA0SE
> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we have
> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is sufficiently
> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
>
> 73 Malcolm.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > Malcolm,
> >
> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >
> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power and
> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry and
> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains valid
> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
> > conditions.
> >
> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >
> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Hartmut,

I have a kilowatt tube amp to arrive Monday or Tuesday of this week. I 
hope you will see my signals this winter from the center of the USA.

73's,
Mike
WD2XSH/16

Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> The activity of the XSH group is low. The "WD2XSH/WE2XGR 600m
> Activity" report shows only 5 members of the XSH group active in
> September. Some of the members were never or only very few times
> active since they got the license on 600m.
> 73
> Hartmut


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I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would li=
ke to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is us=
ed for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone)=
.=20

HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this compute=
r.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am using on=
e, the other must be inactive.

Has anyone any comments, please?

John F5VLF





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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia and America,
good copy of "YO" (RA3YO) , =E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA)
On the American continent good copy of WD2XNS, WD2XES and WD2XKO.
the captures of night are at :

http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





































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Hallo all!
There is very hard QRN this evening, but I can see QRSS3 and DFCW signal
from G3XIZ. I can=B4t hear this signal, but on the screen is quite fine.
QRSS and DFCW mode are very useful for longer distance.=20
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73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10=
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fine. QRSS and DFCW mode are very useful for longer distance. <o:p></o:p></s=
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Blimey !
That is dramatic.   And there is a minute wobble up to about 10 times
the distance as well - which would probably give 2% - 3% error.

So, in a way, one could almost say the RSGB figure "is right" to go so
far out:-)

Andy


On 28/09/2007, Dave Brown <tractorb@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> It's instructive to look at plots of the variation of wave impedance
> with distance from the source.
> These plots (acknowledgements to John Middleton and Marconi Insts,
> "Engineers EMC Workbook")
>
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/zfreespace.jpg
>
> are for 47.7 MHz to scale the distance for lambda/2.pi to 1 metre, but
> the principle remains the same for any frequency. The selection of
> lambda/2.pi for the transition between near and far field regions
> makes much more sense when you see it plotted this way. Note the
> impedance scale is on the extreme right.
>
> DaveB, NZ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:50 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
> > distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
> > margin!
> >
> > Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Andy.
> >>
> >> Interesting, have a look at
> >> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via
> >> the
> >> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small
> >> antennas) it says
> >> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a
> >> radiation
> >> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10
> >> x
> >> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from
> >> your
> >> equation.
> >>
> >> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the
> >> CCIR
> >> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is
> >> within
> >> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I
> >> have been
> >> measuring.
> >>
> >> 73 Malcolm
> >> (G3NZP)
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >>
> >>
> >> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when
> >> > applied
> >> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE
> >> > antennas
> >> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be
> >> > planar.
> >> > This distance is usually taken to be
> >> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda =
> >> > wavelength.
> >> >
> >> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where
> >> > the
> >> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the
> >> > 1 /
> >> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be
> >> > insignificant.
> >> > This value is usually taken as being
> >> > lambda / (2.pi)
> >> >
> >> > Andy  G4JNT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > FOr LF field strength measurement
> >> >
> >> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> >> John.
> >> >>
> >> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of
> >> >> knew
> >> >> PA0SE
> >> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz
> >> >> coils, we
> >> >> have
> >> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
> >> >> sufficiently
> >> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the
> >> >> clarification.
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Malcolm.
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> >> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Malcolm,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field.
> >> >> > The cal is
> >> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of
> >> >> > low power
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on
> >> >> > geometry
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field
> >> >> > remains
> >> >> > valid
> >> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under
> >> >> > far-field
> >> >> > conditions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a
> >> >> > simpler
> >> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> >> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Hello LFers !

My grabber are ON !
Frequency : 137773.5 => 137782.0
Antenna (K9AY) qtf 055
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> > be a first for me!?
> 
> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I 
> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy. 


Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!


I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!


I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
give it a try.

I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
time.

Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.

You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours. 

We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.

I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
(with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.

Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)

John GM4SLV IP90gg





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Chris, LF,

Both our signals showing on Shetland grabber during daylight  mid-afternoon 
!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


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Hi. Can anyone reassure me.

I am in the process of using PA0SE's most helpful article http://www.veron.n=
l/tech/lf/fsm/pa0se.htm to assist in calibrating my 'Eton E5' as a field str=
ength receiver for 500 kHz .

He says:  "Most field strength meters do not measure the electric but the ma=
gnetic component of the electromagnetic field. But this is no problem becaus=
e in the far field of the antenna (where we measure) there is a fixed relati=
on between the electric and the magnetic field components: E/H=3D120*pi ohm=
=3D377 ohm"=20
Then in the final paragraph of the 'Calibration' section he uses this same e=
quation to convert A/m to V/m in a near field.=20

Not that I would want to question an expert, but I guess the far field issue=
 is something to do with the distance it takes for a plain wave to form from=
 an antenna and presumably the equation remains valid, even between the "Hel=
mholtz coils" with the 377ohm relationship still applicable?

73 Malcolm (G3NZP, near Gatwick)

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I am in the process of using PA0SE's mos=
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=20
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Great evening.
QSOs so far with GI4DPE, GM4SLV and GI3PDN
Hearing great sig from GW3HXO, waiting to work him (not being able to net on=
 is a pain!)
Thanks also for FB reports Dave and Roelof
Other weaker sigs heard, will call cq agn 502.25   Xtal controlled after try=
ing to call HXO!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QSOs so far with GI4DPE, GM4SLV and=20
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:06:33 +0100
John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello LF,
> 
> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
> on 502.7kHz. 

Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3

There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 - only
just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.

There's some deep QSB around as well as some QRN.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg


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Hello all,
After tuning antenna, my first reception from DI2AM.
Not present all time.
distance : 1500Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW 6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: [500] Beacon
>=20
> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
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> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
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Hello LF,

After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must be
a first for me!?

I'm just about to try a FET transplant to save see if a BUZ24 will
survive a few more volts.

Hope to be back on within an few minutes,

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Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 
Other stations coming in loud.

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Good morning,
Reading all the emails last night about good conditions i switched on my
receiver to see if i can copy DI2BO with his ERP of just 1.7mW.=20
Normally i receive only from Geri weak traces of single characters, but
last night (the 1st time) i copied his signal over longer periods with a
good signal. I was impressed.
Here a snapshot -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DI2BO_260907_01.JPG (also
on the picture DI2AG and OK0EMW)


Vy73
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I may have missed this on the reflector, but I see the ARRL have the QEX  
article available on-line
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf) 
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf) 
 
There's also a DDS beacon article using the AD9851
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/09/qx09toc.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/09/qx09toc.pdf) 
 
Sorry if this has been posted before. Nice opportunity to see QEX. -  
Although I still can't find the MRF150 version of the Granberg 300W amplifier I  was 
trying to locate.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF



   

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<DIV><A  href=3D"http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf">http://www.arr=
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I don't normally hear those stations like that. They were armchair copy 
compared to just a heterodyne sound usually. Very wide open band last 
night. Would have been a good night for the ZL stations to have been on 
the air...

Mike

k2ors wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> Yes that is what 2 million watts into a good antenna will do....
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> 
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Nice capture RU6LA DFCW 60 with mini whip antenna.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC756 PRO
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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the reports!

TNX ZM2E's team for the very fine captures, but nill on ZM2E's freq ;-((
may be today...

QRN low (+6dB...+10dB above than in the best winter's night)

Yesterday I have removed the beverege from the European direction because
of agricultural works there

David VK6DI, after the ZL-test I'll in beacon mode till 2210z (SR in
you QTH) on 137.778 in DFCW120 - I hope your grabber will ON

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Dear LF enthusiasts,

New Zeland - no access in EU Russia on 136 now ;-((
... but I hope what's not for ever

QRN level was very high Sep 23
In second half of Sep 23 there was a rain (also 1 half of Sep 24) and
by evening there was a thunderstorm

I did not make a beacon till 2210z because of the thunderstorm

I agree with Bob ZL2CA - propagation was fairly good (and very long on
time), but unsufficiently good, as for example in Apr 2005 (ZLs recieved
G3AQC, RA3YO, YU7AR)

TNX ZM2E's team for the very fine captures agn and long-term useful
cooperation on LF !!

TNX to Laurence KL1X and David VK6DI for interesting and useful
grabbers in rare LF regions!

Also TNX to all for the reports and efforts!

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Ok ,

That looks about the best we can hope for .. I found  ME was ok , as long as 
you had a clean install .. a upgrade never seemed to  work ?

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> Andy, Graham
>
> Sorry but I'm not going to be any help sorting out the difficulty with 
> Jason since all machines here
> are running 98SE. I'm sure Alberto would be interested to hear about the 
> problem and want to resolve
> any issues. Not sure if he still monitors this list an e mail might be in 
> order.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
>> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
>> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
>> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
>> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
>> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>>
>> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
>> OS  - which is a
>> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>>
>>
>> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> > How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind 
>> > ....
>> > wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>> >
>> > running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>> >
>> > G ..
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
>> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>> > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>> >
>> >
>> > > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz 
>> > > as
>> > > follows:
>> > >
>> > > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>> > >
>> > > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>> > >
>> > > Jason software can be found here:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.weaksignals.com/
>> > >
>> > > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. 
>> > > Tomorrow
>> > > night's test will be PSK31 /
>> > > PSKFEC31.
>> > >
>> > > Reception reports are appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
>> > > 9/21/2007 14:02
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 
> 9/21/2007 14:02
>
> 




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Hello LFers !

Good copy :

" L "(RU6LA" and " Y "(RA3YO)

See picture

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Dear LF, Finbar,

GI4DPE booming in here peaking RST 589 on 501.318 kHz CW beacon mode at
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Hi Graham,

> Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 
> 21:50  local , seeing nothing ,
> quite low uniform noise level
> Only trace I have is  504
> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK
 
G0MRF on 503.7 is visible here at the moment.

73
Hartmut



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Todays HP's can run any software. They ship from the manufacturer with 
all kinds of crap software on them. Clean the hard drive and install a 
clean copy of Windoze or Linux and they work nice.

Anyone use the Popular Electronics magazine USB soundcard?

Mike
/16

Andy Talbot wrote:
> You can have as many cards as you like - try a USB one like the Edirol
> UA-1EX for good quality audio, or the Logitech headset for headphone /
> boom-mic.
> 
> Or do HP have some sort of corrupted operating systems that isn't
> properly windows compliant?  Back in the days of real DOS, HP machines
> were notorious for being "different"
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
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Hi Graham and John,

I have found SeqDownload from Nir Sofer very useful, and it is not=20
restricted to jpg's:

http://files.snapfiles.com/localdl834/seqdownload.zip (39 kB)

Kind regards
Markus, DF6NM

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Verschickt: Mo., 24. Sept. 2007, 20:44
Thema: LF: Wanted Software to 'Grab' ' Grabbers'


Wanted , software to 'Grab' 'Grabbers'=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I know windows tends to be a event driven process,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
But is there a prog , that works with windows , that will , download=20
and save the grabber website screens , or the Jpeg file if its=20
available ?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
You would have to give it the path and the time period , leave it and=20
come back to as many saved files as you like .. as long as you dident=20
fill the hard drive ..=C2=A0
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You could then look over the 'data' later on ... for example , if you=20
run a beacon over night a save every 15 mins would give a good idea of=20
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Any ideas etc ???=C2=A0
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Graham ..=C2=A0
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only somme traces of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hi LF

I think it's RU6LA traces:



Dmitry

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Hi LF<br>
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I think it's RU6LA traces:<br>
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seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but 
even John was up and down,
I am running now on 503.000
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi, John, LF,
>
> You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> detect any sign of Mark however.
>
> RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>
>> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>>
>> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
>> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
>> > be a first for me!?
>>
>> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
>> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.
>
>
> Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!
>
>
> I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
> I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
>
>
> I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
> one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
> give it a try.
>
> I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
> permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
> time.
>
> Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.
>
> You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
> in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
> had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
> the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
> It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.
>
> We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
> Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.
>
> I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
> (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.
>
> Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)
>
> John GM4SLV IP90gg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:27:38 EDT
G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

>  
> Hi all.
>  
> Certainly good tonight.   My 5mW visible on John's grabber at  900km+
>  
> 503.70
>  
> David   IO91TK


What a night!

First ever GM/GM, first ever GM/GW, 

GI3PDN much better than ever before...


If this is winter, bring it on!

John GM4SLV


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Hi LF,

I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in QRSS
scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows who it
is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.

There was a good visual aurora here at around 10:30 local time - gone
after 10 minutes but will keep checking as the night progresses. Don't
know what effect it will have on MF signals, if any.

Cheers,

John
Gm4SLV IP90gg


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Hello LF,

I can hear G3DXZ calling CQ on 503.1 at 08:30 UTC. Not sure of his
location.

Going out now to run in a half marathon otherwise I'd try calling.

Regards,

John GM4SLV


Grabber at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg



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Best way ,

just pug a 'good'  USB card into the pc ,  will show up as a usb-device and 
have the advantage of being on the end of a long wire .which you can wrap 
round a ferrite block .

Fo the 'tx' gang,  when your 'earth rf level' exceeds the safe level for the 
computing equipment ...chances are , you will only take out the usb card .. 
and not the motherboard .. use a pci/usb card for added feel good factor ...

I still use my  intel p111  1.1 Ghz  motherboard to  this day ... but with a 
pci sound card  :-( ....

Graham ..

G0NBD.




----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi John,
>
> I would expect a second sound card to work ok as XP will certainly support 
> 2 cards to run simultaniously if not more. Cards cost so little it's not a 
> lot to spend if doesn't work. You can of course use the mic input on the 
> exsisting card but it will require some input attenuation.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
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> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:27 AM
> Subject: LF: A second soundcard
>
>
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would 
> like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard 
> is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only 
> microphone).
>
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this 
> computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am 
> using one, the other must be inactive.
>
> Has anyone any comments, please?
>
> John F5VLF
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi David, LF,

Having looked at the Birmingham grabber & seeing your beacon there I have 
put my Rx on your frequency from about 1430utc & using SpecLab in QRSS30 
mode I have been watching a faint signal there. It is not possible to get a 
positive ID in QRSS30 but the signal is now increasing in strength a little 
& from about 1500utc has become just visible in QRSS10 mode. If I get an ID 
I will send a positive report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


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LF, Mark,

Captured GM4ISM QRSS a little while ago, unfortunately almost lost under a 
strong local signal.

73

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It's instructive to look at plots of the variation of wave impedance 
with distance from the source.
These plots (acknowledgements to John Middleton and Marconi Insts, 
"Engineers EMC Workbook")

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/zfreespace.jpg

are for 47.7 MHz to scale the distance for lambda/2.pi to 1 metre, but 
the principle remains the same for any frequency. The selection of 
lambda/2.pi for the transition between near and far field regions 
makes much more sense when you see it plotted this way. Note the 
impedance scale is on the extreme right.

DaveB, NZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
> distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
> margin!
>
> Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Hi Andy.
>>
>> Interesting, have a look at
>> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via 
>> the
>> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small 
>> antennas) it says
>> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a 
>> radiation
>> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 
>> x
>> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from 
>> your
>> equation.
>>
>> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the 
>> CCIR
>> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is 
>> within
>> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I 
>> have been
>> measuring.
>>
>> 73 Malcolm
>> (G3NZP)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>>
>>
>> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when 
>> > applied
>> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE 
>> > antennas
>> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be 
>> > planar.
>> > This distance is usually taken to be
>> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = 
>> > wavelength.
>> >
>> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where 
>> > the
>> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 
>> > 1 /
>> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be 
>> > insignificant.
>> > This value is usually taken as being
>> > lambda / (2.pi)
>> >
>> > Andy  G4JNT
>> >
>> >
>> > FOr LF field strength measurement
>> >
>> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> John.
>> >>
>> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of 
>> >> knew
>> >> PA0SE
>> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz 
>> >> coils, we
>> >> have
>> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
>> >> sufficiently
>> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the 
>> >> clarification.
>> >>
>> >> 73 Malcolm.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
>> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Malcolm,
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and 
>> >> > the
>> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. 
>> >> > The cal is
>> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of 
>> >> > low power
>> >> > and
>> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on 
>> >> > geometry
>> >> > and
>> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field 
>> >> > remains
>> >> > valid
>> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under 
>> >> > far-field
>> >> > conditions.
>> >> >
>> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a 
>> >> > simpler
>> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
>> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Hello Dmitry,

Yes that seems possible.  The signal faded rapidly after the gray line 
moved offshore at my end.

The grabber will continue again on 137 Saturday & Sunday night,

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
________________________

Dmitry wrote:
> Hi LF
>
> I think it's RU6LA traces:
>
> Dmitry
VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as follows:

2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)

0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)

Jason software can be found here:

http://www.weaksignals.com/

Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow night's test will be PSK31 /
PSKFEC31.

Reception reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in PSK31 and PSKFEC31
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSK31 and PSKFEC31 (forward error correction) tonight on 508.5 kHz
as follows:

2300 - 0000Z PSK31

0000 - 0100Z PSKFEC31

0100 - 0200Z PSK31

0200 - 0300Z PSKFEC31

Power level will initially be 100 watts but may increase to 400 watts and will be noted in the
message.

Suggest Spectrum Lab:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html

 digimode terminal as a suitable decoder for PSK31, however, it does not have FEC capability at
present.

Suggest MultiPSK:

http://f6cte.free.fr/

as a decoder for both modes. One note - this software decoder has been known to go on 'walkabout'
with loss of received signal and may need to be restarted if this occurs.

As usual all reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night :  WKO , L , YO
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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





































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Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is "Intruder"
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Hello Hall ,

What is "intruder" transmission !

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:02:24 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW
> attached.


Gary, LF,

Thanks for the nice capture. I thought I'd put a signal on the band for
a while as it looked quiet and I had some chores to do that meant I
couldn't devote time to QSOs. In these circumstances I figure a singal
is at least useful to someone, although of course it spoils my own
grabber!

I see I'm making it to the Birmingham grabber too.

I might come out of beacon mode in a while and look for some QSOs.

Worked G3DXZ at 0840 UTC and GI4DPE at 1200 UTC - broad daylight DX! I
also heard G3UNT calling CQ and despite repeatedly answering him he
failed to hear me, again!

Things are looking up though, as autumn gets going. The night-time QRN
still a problem though.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Reception conditions were fairly quiet at Quartz Hill last night. We capture=
d a good "W" on UA4WPF's frequency in the 15 minutes slot beginning 1600utc.=
 There were also what appeared to be good signals from Ed RU6LA at 1700utc a=
nd 1800utc, our sunrise, although the signal was 0.1Hz lower than expected.=20=
We will follow the same scedule tonight.

Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA

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John

Brian has said to me during QSOs that he has a high urban noise level. Taken 
my quarter wave down for the time being and re-instated my 160m inv. 'L' (so 
I could work 3B7C).

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Tom G3OLB

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> LF, Chris, Brian
>
>
> I've heard some of the QSO between G3UNT and G3XIZ - needed some AF
> filtering and a bit of extra pre-amplification but copy of G3UNT was
> 439 and G3XIZ 2/3 2 9 on a quiet band.
>
> I was using the weak QSO to do some comparative tests between my normal
> 500kHz RX - AR7030 - and my new IC-718. Even with the stock, wide, SSB
> filter in the 718 I could copy just as well on both RXs - the 10Hz AF
> filter somewhat levelling the playing field since the 7030 has a 300Hz
> Collins CW filter.
>
> I called G3UNT several times after he signed with Chris, but once again
> failed to raise him.
>
> G3UNT is alwas a readable signal in daytime up here but despite many,
> many relies to his CQ calls I've never had any joy. I presume I'm
> being spoiled by my low daytime noise floor?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 



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Ga LF.

just cpy the dfcw120 signal from Ed RU6LA (L).

see: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

GL Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ga LF.</FONT></DIV>
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Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
margin!

Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.

Andy  G4JNT


On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi Andy.
>
> Interesting, have a look at
> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via the
> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small antennas) it says
> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a radiation
> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 x
> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from your
> equation.
>
> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the CCIR
> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is within
> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I have been
> measuring.
>
> 73 Malcolm
> (G3NZP)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
> > This distance is usually taken to be
> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.
> >
> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
> > This value is usually taken as being
> > lambda / (2.pi)
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > FOr LF field strength measurement
> >
> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> John.
> >>
> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew
> >> PA0SE
> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we
> >> have
> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
> >> sufficiently
> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
> >>
> >> 73 Malcolm.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >>
> >>
> >> > Malcolm,
> >> >
> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >> >
> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power
> >> > and
> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry
> >> > and
> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains
> >> > valid
> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
> >> > conditions.
> >> >
> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >> >
> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Mine too -

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5

See also VE1VDM Grabber -

http://users.eastlink.ca/%7Eve1vdm/argocaptures/grabber.htm

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
__________________________________________

Jean-Pierre Mr wrote:
> Hello LFers !
>
> My grabber are ON !
> Frequency : 137773.5 => 137782.0
> Antenna (K9AY) qtf 055
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


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Hi Ed,

Nominally 138.9kHz with +/-170Hz FSK.  It used to be bang 
on.  I'll check to see if the upper frequency of the pair 
has moved correspondingly, too.

http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html

is DK8KW's site, and is probably the best resource on DCF-39.

         Cheers,

                 Steve



Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> 23-09-2007, 3:17 MSK(+3 GMT), Steve Dove wrote:
> SD> That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small
> SD> lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.
> 
> TNX Steve!
> I very much not frequently be for 136 last years(2005-07) and probably
> did not read this information in LF group
> What is exact freq DCF39 ?  - I have not found any info on it
> on any wwws (??)
> 
> My main freqs for calibration are 137.7750 or 137.7500 (russians
> QRM-line)
> 
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
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Laurence,

With some imagination, that does look like an S on the left and most of 
an X on the right. The frequencies are certainly right. Was the clock 
time (off as it may be) supposed to be UTC?

Interesting!

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Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=
 freqs window in my absence.
=20
http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has=20=
the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay
=20
I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
ult!" - or something like that.
=20
Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage=20



> From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,>=20=
> I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my=
 mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as u=
nder spring tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX=
9BS - "X"> ZM2E - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A)=
 with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136=
.73.ru>=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still run=
ning in the proposed&nbsp; test freqs window in my absence.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the=20=
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I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
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Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR=
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R>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had technical proble=
ms with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mistake - freq w=
as abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as well as unde=
r spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt; UA4WPF - "W"=
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Hi all.
 
Certainly good tonight.   My 5mW visible on John's grabber at  900km+
 
503.70
 
David   IO91TK
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 25/09/2007 20:55:44 GMT Standard Time,  
ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:

Hi,  John, LF
 
GM4SLV heard calling GM4ISM on 502.244 kHz at  2045utc. GM4SLV is RST 559, 
which is the strongest that I have heard you up to  now. Plenty of deep QSB, 
however.
Condx must be good tonight!
 
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM  nr Windsor, SE England.



 



   

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Copied GM4SLV beacon aural-CW Q3 at 19.08UTC with fast QSB

BR

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
KP03SD, Vaasa, Finland


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Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.256 kHz in QRSS3 00:35-01:57. G0MRF was
visible the whole night on 503.7 kHz.

Nothing copied of the PSK31 transmission from XGR/2 last night. After
I had a look on the multipsk software I decided not to use this
software, so not tried reception of the PSKFEC31 transmission.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hi, Mark.

I can hear you FB on 503.000 now. I must have been listening on the wrong
frequency earlier!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: Re: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>


seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but
even John was up and down,
I am running now on 503.000
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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> Hi, John, LF,
>
> You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> detect any sign of Mark however.
>
> RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>




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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Mark wrote:

> Gents, I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV 
> this evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna) 
> I will announce details here. 
> Regards Mark GM4ISM IO85AR 


Lf, Mark,

At last, another GM! For most G stations you'll be a lot easier to work 
than I am, as you're over 300 miles nearer England than me! 

Good luck and hope to see you on this evening for the first GM - GM 
500kHz QSO.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg


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Gents,
I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this evening=
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I will announce details here.
Regards
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting tonight on 508.5 kHz according to the following schedule:

0000 - 0020Z  PSK31

0020 - 0040Z  PSKFEC31

0040 - 0100Z  QPSK31

0100 - 0120Z  PSK31

0120 - 0140Z  PSKFEC31

0140 - 0200Z  QPSK31

Since it appears that there will be no shortage of static tonight the power level will be 100 watts.
Reports are appreciated.

Suggest MultiPSK as the decoder which can be down loaded here:

http://f6cte.free.fr/

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Hi Ed,

That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small 
lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.

         73,

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com

Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Dear LF enthusiasts,
> 
> yesterday has found out what the space freq of DCF39 was 138830.5 !
> it is my mistake?
> 
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru


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Hello Graham,

Here in Suffolk,
I can hear
G0MRF on 503.7
and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.
There is a DI2  further up heard.

Chris G3XVL JO02NB


On 17/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> Any beacons sending at the moment ??
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> 21:50  local , seeing nothing ,
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> quite low uniform noise level
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> Only trace I have is  504
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> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK
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Hello Graham,<br><br>Here in Suffolk,<br>I can hear <br>G0MRF on 503.7 <br>and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.<br>There is a DI2&nbsp; further up heard.<br><br>Chris G3XVL JO02NB<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 17/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Graham</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Any beacons sending at the moment ??<br><br>21:50&nbsp;&nbsp;local , seeing nothing ,<br><br>quite low uniform noise level<br><br>Only trace I have is&nbsp;&nbsp;504<br><br>Graham&nbsp;&nbsp;, G0NBD , IO 83 LK<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello Dmitry,

Was that your carrier on 137775?  Should I shift the center frequency of 
my grabber?

David, VK6DI.




Dmitry wrote:
> Hi David
>
> My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120  21/09 
> 21:45-21:55 "Y"
> I don't see graber after 21:45 utc
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> Dmitry
VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


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Hello Dmitry,<br>
<br>
Was that your carrier on 137775?&nbsp; Should I shift the center frequency
of my grabber?<br>
<br>
David, VK6DI.<br>
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Dmitry wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:46F522AA.3030707@mail.ru" type="cite">Hi David
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My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120&nbsp; 21/09
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I don't see graber after 21:45 utc
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Hi Steve,

23-09-2007, 3:17 MSK(+3 GMT), Steve Dove wrote:
SD> That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small
SD> lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.

TNX Steve!
I very much not frequently be for 136 last years(2005-07) and probably
did not read this information in LF group
What is exact freq DCF39 ?  - I have not found any info on it
on any wwws (??)

My main freqs for calibration are 137.7750 or 137.7500 (russians
QRM-line)

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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 Sorry, the wrong list. Should go to the NDB list.

 73
 Hartmut

> The new ones heard the past days:

> 02.09.2007  08:45  321  SP   DNK   Vojens / Skrydstrup
> 17.09.2007  02:48  332  YFM  CAN   La Grande 4
> 17.09.2007  02:46  334  AR   ISL   Akureyi
> 17.09.2007  04:26  343  TST  ENG   Redhill
> 17.09.2007  04:18  390  VP   CAN   Kuujjuaq / Kujack

> 73
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Hello Hall ,

What is " L " transmission !

on ~137.7725

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:44:10 +0100
"Chris McCarthy" <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Finbar,
> Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
> (400 miles)
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> 73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)


Also a nice signal here in Shetland at 0800 UTC

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Subject: LF: T/A [137] Strong signal of RU6LA now !
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Hello LFers !

The night is not yet still there, and the signal of Ed is very strong in this moment!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Laurence,
> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage 

  Wasilla? Palmer? 

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
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FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test 
> freqs window in my absence.
>  
> http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has the 
> 137.775/781 (I think) overlay
>  
> I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as 
> "Adult!" - or something like that.
>  
> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 
> 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,> > I 
> had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my mistake 
> - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as under spring 
> tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX9BS - "X"> ZM2E 
> - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W 
> Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try to improve RF ground 
> and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Capture your memories in an online journal!
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still run=
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&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the=20=
DCF 39 composite link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR=
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&gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date=
: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:15:31 +0400<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had technical proble=
ms with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mistake - freq w=
as abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as well as unde=
r spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt; UA4WPF - "W"=
<BR>&gt; UA0AET - "U"<BR>&gt; RX9BS - "X"<BR>&gt; ZM2E - "Z"<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt=
; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W Output -=
 I believe that ground very dry now<BR>&gt; Today I'll try to improve RF gro=
und and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.7=
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Hi Mark, LF,

I just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking RST
339 on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were also
showing up on the G3YXM grabber.

Congratulations on making it down this far south!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
  Sent: 25 September 2007 12:50
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  Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz NOV


  Gents,
  I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this
evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna)
  I will announce details here.
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
  www.dc2light.co.uk

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Mark, LF,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN   class=3D386511520-2=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-250=
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caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking RST 339 on=
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5092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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5092007>Congratulations on making it down this far=20
south!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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5092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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92007>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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ma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
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  NOV<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
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>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM IO85AR</FONT></DIV>
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Ge Ed, LF.

just(1753utc) captured RU6LA in qrss3 on 137.70KHz.

73 Ed DL2HRE in JO51TQ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just(1753utc) captured RU6LA in qrss3 on=20
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 now peaking RST 549 QSB

On 23/09/2007, Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Finbar,
> Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
> (400 miles)
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> 73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
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&nbsp;now peaking RST 549 QSB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 23/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Chris McCarthy</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:chris.decibel@googlemail.com">chris.decibel@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Finbar,<br>Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about&nbsp; RST 439<br>(400 miles)<br><br>
<br>73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br>
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Wish I was there to see it myself Dmitry and not in KL7..but glad its runnin=
g ok by itself. Antennae is the eprobe and RX is R75.
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This is a new country for me from 9V1 - only two so far...
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Vy 73 and gud luck with the tests - Im hoping to have some form of reception=
 from up here but I have serious issues with PC battery power.
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Laurence KL1X40F Wasilla BP51 AK Alaska


Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:46:47 +0400From: ra3yo@mail.ruTo: rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.orgSubject: Re: LF: UA-beacons on 137
Good rx RU6LA in Singapore:http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpgDmitry
_________________________________________________________________
Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Caf=
=E9.
http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline=3D

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Wish I was there to see it myself Dmitry and not i=
n KL7..but glad its running ok by itself. Antennae is the eprobe and RX is R=
75.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This is a new country for me from 9V1 - only two so far...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Vy 73 and gud luck with the tests - Im hoping to have some form of reception=
 from up here but I have serious issues with PC battery power.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X<BR>40F Wasilla BP51 AK Alaska<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:46:47 +0400<BR>From: ra3yo@mail.ru<BR>To: rsgb_lf_=
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<META content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML" name=3DGenerator>Good rx RU6LA in Singa=
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Andy,

Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio 
of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a 
few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc , 
with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based 
spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the 
original .

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>
> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> OS  - which is a
> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
>> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>>
>> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>>
>>
>> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz 
>> > as
>> > follows:
>> >
>> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>> >
>> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>> >
>> > Jason software can be found here:
>> >
>> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
>> >
>> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
>> > night's test will be PSK31 /
>> > PSKFEC31.
>> >
>> > Reception reports are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
>> > 9/21/2007 14:02
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 
> 9/21/2007 14:02
>
> 




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Hello Finbar, etc.

Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.
There is some very fast QSB on all signals.
GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and G3XVL is even a few dB stron=
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This is measured in a 24 Hz wide bandwidth.
Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot to watch the meter.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:26:31 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Still calling on 502.245 , beacons DI2AM  589, DI2AG 549 OK0EMW 559
> to nil, v deep slow QSB, now some QRSS 'MR' on about 503.5
> good condx tonight
> Mark GM4ISM

Hello Mark, LF

Yes I can hear you calling CQ, and Finbar's slow CW beacon.

The "MR" is likely to be G0MRF on 503.7. He keeps fading up on my
grabber too.

Goodnight for now,

Must QRT

John GM4SLV

 


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LF, Chris, Brian


I've heard some of the QSO between G3UNT and G3XIZ - needed some AF
filtering and a bit of extra pre-amplification but copy of G3UNT was
439 and G3XIZ 2/3 2 9 on a quiet band.

I was using the weak QSO to do some comparative tests between my normal
500kHz RX - AR7030 - and my new IC-718. Even with the stock, wide, SSB
filter in the 718 I could copy just as well on both RXs - the 10Hz AF
filter somewhat levelling the playing field since the 7030 has a 300Hz
Collins CW filter.

I called G3UNT several times after he signed with Chris, but once again
failed to raise him.

G3UNT is alwas a readable signal in daytime up here but despite many,
many relies to his CQ calls I've never had any joy. I presume I'm
being spoiled by my low daytime noise floor?

Regards,

John


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Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on 505.259 kHz 00:26-02:01. There was a
very faint trace of WD2XSH/6 about 03:45-03:50 on 505.266 kHz.

Good signals from G3XIZ, G3XVL and G0MRF beaconing on 503 kHz in
QRSS3.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
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Dmitry wrote:

> Hi David
>
> My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz 

DFCW240  21/09 21:45-21:55 "Y"

> I don't see graber after 21:45 utc
>
> Dmitry
>
> David Isele - VK6DI wrote:
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My second reception
OK0EMW
But not present all time.
1300Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW 6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: [500] Beacon
>=20
> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
>=20
> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20

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Hi Mike=20

Please get a look for example at http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/LWBC.pd=
f for a quite up-to-date list of LW broadcast transmitters.

73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de WE0H
> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 20 septembre 2007 09:09
> =C0 : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Objet : Re: LF: Re: 162.00kc EU station S-3 in EN35hj
>=20
>=20
> Hello Jeff,
>=20
> Wow lots of power. I can still hear a little carrier right=20
> now. 189kc is=20
> still strong and some other weak signals around 172kc?
>=20
> Very good bad conditions this morning.
> Mike
> WE0H
>=20
> F6CWN wrote:
> > Good morning Mike,
> > You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
> > 2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)
> >=20
> > http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
> > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
> > http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=3Dlongwave_transmitter_allouis
> >=20
> > VY 73: Jeff F6CWN
>=20

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Hi David,

> I wonder if you have posted the report for WD2XSH/17 onto the
> reports page at .www.500kc.com.

no I haven't, but I posted a copy of the mail to the 600m group.

> It may encourage someone further > west to try an evening of QRS3
> aimed at Europe.

The activity of the XSH group is low. The "WD2XSH/WE2XGR 600m
Activity" report shows only 5 members of the XSH group active in
September. Some of the members were never or only very few times
active since they got the license on 600m.
I hope there will be more activity from the new XGR license.

> My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX  and 
> 5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the 
> house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. However the 
> antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity 
> towards you due to 'reflection' ??

In comparison with the rest of the night the signal level 22:15-22:35
was very stable on a high level.

73
Hartmut



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Wasilla Fish hook Warren - looking at a house on a lake up here....


From: k2ors@comcast.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.orgCC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comDate: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:32:49 +=
0000Subject: RE: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18Laurence,> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Toda=
y about 50 miles North of Anchorage    Wasilla? Palmer?  --73 Warren K2ORSWD=
2XGJ     136-140kHzWD2XSH/23 505-510kHzWE2XEB/2   160-189kHzWE2XGR/1 505-515=
kHz FN42hihttp://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm  -------------- Original message -=
---------------------From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>> E=
d - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=20=
> freqs window in my absence.>  > http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or th=
e DCF 39 composite link which has the > 137.775/781 (I think) overlay>  > I=20=
cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as > "Ad=
ult!" - or something like that.>  > Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 mile=
s North of Anchorage > > > > > From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 > 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test S=
ep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,> > I > had technical problems with DFCW and co=
nsequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my mistake > - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 13=
7.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as under spring > tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO=20=
- "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX9BS - "X"> ZM2E > - "Z"> > The current=20=
in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W > Output - I believe t=
hat ground very dry now> Today I'll try to improve RF ground > and to TX on=20=
137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru> > _______________________=
__________________________________________> Capture your memories in an onli=
ne journal!> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus =20
--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb=
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Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=
 freqs window in my absence. http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF=
 39 composite link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay I cant get it=
 from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Adult!" - or so=
mething like that. Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchor=
age=20

> From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,>=20=
> I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my=
 mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as u=
nder spring tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX=
9BS - "X"> ZM2E - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A)=
 with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136=
.73.ru>=20

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><BR>Wasilla Fish hook Warren - looking at a house=20=
on a lake up here....<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<HR id=3DstopSpelling>
From: k2ors@comcast.net<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org<BR>CC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 15:32:49 +0000<BR>Subject: RE: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18<BR><BR><PRE>Laurenc=
e,<BR>&gt; Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR>=
 <BR>  Wasilla? Palmer? <BR> <BR>--<BR>73 Warren K2ORS<BR>WD2XGJ     136-140=
kHz<BR>WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz<BR>WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz<BR>WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz<=
BR> <BR>FN42hi<BR><A href=3D"http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm" target=3D_blan=
k>http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm</A><BR> <BR> -------------- Original messa=
ge ----------------------<BR>From: Laurence KL1X &lt;hellozerohellozero@hotm=
ail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running i=
n the proposed  test <BR>&gt; freqs window in my absence.<BR>&gt;  <BR>&gt;=20=
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/" target=3D_blank>http://kl1x.com</A> and select=20=
slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has the <BR>&gt; 137.775/781 (I=
 think) overlay<BR>&gt;  <BR>&gt; I cant get it from here in Alaska and the=20=
local ISP has rated my site as <BR>&gt; "Adult!" - or something like that.<B=
R>&gt;  <BR>&gt; Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorag=
e <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru&gt; To: rsgb_lf=
_group@blacksheep.org&gt; Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 <BR>&gt; 10:15:31 +0400&gt;=
 Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18&gt; &gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,&gt; &gt; I <=
BR>&gt; had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60&gt; S=
RI - my mistake <BR>&gt; - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((&gt; &gt;=
 TX "L" - as well as under spring <BR>&gt; tests:&gt; RU6LA - "L"&gt; RA3YO=20=
- "Y"&gt; UA4WPF - "W"&gt; UA0AET - "U"&gt; RX9BS - "X"&gt; ZM2E <BR>&gt; -=20=
"Z"&gt; &gt; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 10=
0W <BR>&gt; Output - I believe that ground very dry now&gt; Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground <BR>&gt; and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60&gt; &gt; 73! Ed R=
U6LA <A href=3D"http://136.73.ru/" target=3D_blank>http://136.73.ru</A>&gt;=20=
<BR>&gt; _________________________________________________________________<B=
R>&gt; Capture your memories in an online journal!<BR>&gt; <A href=3D"http:/=
/www.reallivemoms.com/?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&amp;loc=3Dus" target=3D_blank>http:/=
/www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&amp;loc=3Dus</A><BR> <BR> <BR></PRE>
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t Sep 18<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:27:45 +0000<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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ed&nbsp; test freqs window in my absence.<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR><A href=3D"ht=
tp://kl1x.com/">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 compo=
site link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>I=
 cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Adu=
lt!" - or something like that.<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR=
>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<HR id=3DstopSpelling>
<BR><BR><BR>&gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<=
BR>&gt; Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:15:31 +0400<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: RU6LA's t=
est Sep 18<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had tech=
nical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mist=
ake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as=20=
well as under spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt;=20=
UA4WPF - "W"<BR>&gt; UA0AET - "U"<BR>&gt; RX9BS - "X"<BR>&gt; ZM2E - "Z"<BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 1=
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:56:24 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Lots of stations beaconing tonight, GM4SLV is 539 'fast' CW G0NBD and
> of course GI4DPE. I will call cw normal speed at 23:00z on 503.00
> Can see myself on Bham Grabber.. a great confidence boost HI. Tnx
> also to Gary 4 earlier report 73s
> Mark GM4ISM


I was just running the beacon for a while before bed. No time to play
but thought it might be useful for others. I see it quite nicely on
Dave's grabber.

Cheers and goodnight,

John GM4SLV


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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:38:08 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> GM4SLV CW beacon audible here RST 519. Although not moving S meter
> audibly S1 with 100 Hz audio filter.
> 
> 73
> 

Thanks Gary for the report, I put the CW beacon on while I was doing
other things around the house/shack, testing a new Calss-E MOSFET PA.

Will turn it off soon and look for QSOs

John
GM4SLV


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This is the text of a message I sent earlier, but has not appeared on the 
reflector, maybe because of attached file size.

73, Bob

Hi all readers,

Thanks to all who tried to receive ZM2E.  It seems that VK6 is our furthest 
reception report so far.  We had fairly good LF DX last night, receiving 
something from every R6L beacon.  See the attached Argo graphic, timed at 
1812z, a few minutes before ZL sunrise.  It shows beacon IDs of L, A and W, 
and frequency included.  We could copy L at 30 second dot length (we had two 
receivers and three PC, so had multiple sessions of Argo running, for 
bandwidth and dot length options).

ZM2E average QRN was fairly low all weekend, and we used noise blanking to 
reduce impact of static bursts.  At ZL sunrise we got readability 3 by ear 
for EU AM broadcast stations on 153 and 171 kHz.  Also plenty of galloping 
horses for SSB reception on 100 kHz. All reception via the wire antenna 
tuned for 137 kHz.

ZM2E operators were Mike ZL4OL, David ZL4TAC and Bob ZL2CA.

73, Bob ZL2CA 




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Hello Ed and others,

This weekend I plan to run a grabber on 137.

Details can be found on my web site as shown below.  I have no 
difficulty seeing NDB activity from ZL and from Norfolk Island.  
Hopefully if conditions are favorable you should be able to view at 
least the ZM2E signal as seen from Western Australia.

Good luck with your tests!

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Dear LF enthusiasts,
>
> TNX by all for the impressing reports ...


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Hi John, LF,

There are times when your signal goes momentarily into the noise, I am 
running a slow morse tape in SpecLab which over a period of time should show 
the QSB repititions, it may be a useful excersise.

Cheers, Gary.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:02:24 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John, LF,
>>
>> CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW
>> attached.
>
>
> Gary, LF,
>
> Thanks for the nice capture. I thought I'd put a signal on the band for
> a while as it looked quiet and I had some chores to do that meant I
> couldn't devote time to QSOs. In these circumstances I figure a singal
> is at least useful to someone, although of course it spoils my own
> grabber!
>
> I see I'm making it to the Birmingham grabber too.
>
> I might come out of beacon mode in a while and look for some QSOs.
>
> Worked G3DXZ at 0840 UTC and GI4DPE at 1200 UTC - broad daylight DX! I
> also heard G3UNT calling CQ and despite repeatedly answering him he
> failed to hear me, again!
>
> Things are looking up though, as autumn gets going. The night-time QRN
> still a problem though.
>
> Regards,
>
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
> 



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On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> be a first for me!?

I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I 
heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy. 
Didn't have time to get the rig turned on to call you (and no doubt 
you wouldn't have heard my 5mW erp anyway...). A few minutes later 
there was some QRSS on around the same frequency peaking 579, not 
sure whether that was you or somebody else (don't have the patience 
to sit listening to the dots I am afraid...). There seemed to be a 
higher than normal QRN local noise problem though so didn't linger. 
The usual crop of beacons, G0MRF and GI4DPE (good 599) and others.

Now that the winter nights are approaching QSOs over this sort of 
distance will be coming the norm.

73 Dave G3YMC IO91PJ

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hartmut

Nice catch!

You have the complete message in Jason Fast. Shut down was at 0200Z. Ran 100 watts transmitter power
last night (as indicated in the message) but have the capability to run 400 watts.

Tonight's test will be PSK31 and PSKFEC31. I'll let the transmitter run until 0300Z and post a
schedule later this morning.

Thanks again for watching...always amazed at what you can dig out!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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> Brief copy of the Jason Fast transmission from WE2XGR/2 on 508.5 kHz
> about 01:45. From the Jason Normal transmission until 01:00 I got only
> a few signs, but no full copy of the message.
>
> Copied the WD2XSH/17 part of the QSO between XSH/17 and XSH/6. From
> WD2XSH/6 some traces were visible during the QSO but not much
> readable. Copied a brief "/6" later on 505.265 when WD2XSH/6 was back
> in beacon mode.
>
> From the UK copied G0MRF and G3XIZ.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>



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Dave,
Thanks very much for the report and screenshot, much appreciated, nice to
know you are hearing it through the crashes.

73 Chris
Ipswich, Suffolk.

On 18/09/2007, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> Chris, LF,
>
> Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among
> all the static crashes.
> Screenshot attached.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 18 September 2007 21:10
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> Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon
>
>
> Hi Chris, LF,
>
> Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
> OK. Not audible so far.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Dave,<br>Thanks very much for the report and screenshot, much appreciated, nice to know you are hearing it through the crashes.<br><br>73 Chris<br>Ipswich, Suffolk.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Dave G3WCB</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Chris, LF,<br><br>Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among<br>all the static crashes.<br>Screenshot attached.<br><br>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<br>Sent: 18 September 2007 21:10<br>To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
<br>Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon<br><br><br>Hi Chris, LF,<br><br>Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%<br>OK. Not audible so far.<br><br>73<br><br>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<br><br></blockquote>
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Vern, VE1VDM is now running his grabber on 137.  "KOX" is strong.

See - http://users.eastlink.ca/%7Eve1vdm/argocaptures/grabber.htm

Or access via link from -

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.


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Dear LF enthusiasts,

I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60
SRI - my mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((

TX "L" - as well as under spring tests:
RU6LA - "L"
RA3YO - "Y"
UA4WPF - "W"
UA0AET - "U"
RX9BS - "X"
ZM2E - "Z"

The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now
Today I'll try to improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru


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Salut Marc!
Thanks for nice calture of OK0EMW=B4s signal! Your station is 1325km away
from the beacon.

GL on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

*****************************************************
=20




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My second reception
OK0EMW
But not present all time.
1300Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW
6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:43 PM
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> Subject: LF: [500] Beacon
>=20
> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
>=20
> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20


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CDX were very good,, /17 was as loud as I have ever heard him 30Db above
the background noise
with about 3 Min QSB,,,,, I was FM 19 in southern Pensylvania,, I was 
going to log it and didnt

Bob K3DJC



Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on 505.259 kHz 00:26-02:01. There was a
very faint trace of WD2XSH/6 about 03:45-03:50 on 505.266 kHz.
 
Good signals from G3XIZ, G3XVL and G0MRF beaconing on 503 kHz in
QRSS3.
 
Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:
 
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
 
 
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hello Hartmut,
Thank you very much for sending the capture report to the LF group.
I have only recently finished making the TX and aerial system,  its nice to
know its getting out.
I am using a M0BMU design transmitter with 10 watts output. My aerial is a 9
metre vertical with some top loading and capacity hat.

73
Chris McCarthy
G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB)


On 15/09/2007, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Again solid copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17 on 505.75kHz. The
> signal was visible 00:56-02:15, best around 02:00.
>
> From the UK copied G3XVL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.
>
> Captures and signal plots can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
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Hello Hartmut,<br>Thank you very much for sending the capture report to the LF group.<br>I have only recently finished making the TX and aerial system,&nbsp; its nice to know its getting out.<br>I am using a M0BMU design transmitter with 10 watts output. My aerial is a 9 metre vertical with some top loading and capacity hat.
<br><br>73<br>Chris McCarthy<br>G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB)<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 15/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hartmut Wolff</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:h-wolff@gmx.de">h-wolff@gmx.de</a>
&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Again solid copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17 on 505.75kHz. The<br>signal was visible 00:56-02:15, best around 02:00.
<br><br>From the UK copied G3XVL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.<br><br>Captures and signal plots can be seen here:<br><br><a href="http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm">http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm</a><br><br><br>73<br>Hartmut
<br><a href="http://www.h-wolff.de">www.h-wolff.de</a><br>Locator: JO52hp<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:24:54 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of
> been sendiong  io83fk   .....


Hi Graham,LF

My mistake! It was IO83LK... That'll teach me for trying to read CW
visually and then remembering it in order to write an email.


> Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band 
> display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the 
> amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks
> like the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked
> at birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two
> data streams , testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not
> show on your site, till some time after the lower one .. odd



I will have a look through the captures and see if I can spot the
effects you mention. If you need any pics I can send them down. Each 5
minute capture is stored here.


Wonder if the auroral conditions played any part in the propagation?

Regards,

John


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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:15:58 +0100
John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in
> QRSS scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows
> who it is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.


The QRSS faded down but has come back up and a callsign is clear - G0NBD

Hello Graham!


Cheers,

John


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Lower static level than the night before. Copied RA3YO, RU6LA, UA4WPF,
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Chris, LF,

Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among
all the static crashes.
Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon


Hi Chris, LF,

Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
OK. Not audible so far.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Chris, LF,

Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95% 
OK. Not audible so far.

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Dave,

> Is there any documented information on the detail of applying forward 
> error correction to PSK31? 

We are using F6CTE's MultiPSK program:
http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

Patrick has a paper on PSKFEC31 accessible from that page without 
downloading the program itself.

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GM Jean-Piere, LF.

between 1900 and 1930utc i see also W for UA4WPF on 137.7772KHz on your=20
screen.
  i captured yesterday:

73 Ed DL2HRE
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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WKO , L , YO


Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Brief copy of a "/6" from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz about 03:00 UTC.
Captured WD2XSH/17 02:11-02:25 in CW on 505.75 kHz. Due to the high
static level not much readable, but got enough for a clear ID.

G0MRF was strong last night. Copied the CW signal, but still nothing
from the PSK31. Good copy of G3XIZ about 18:40 on 503.95kHz.

Captures can be seen here:

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Hello LF ,
Last night was strongly disturbed by the local storms, in spite of that I copied three beacon 
American continent! (what a pleasure, so for a long time one had not copied as much of it !!!! )
I copy : WD2XNS , WD2XES , WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:16:33 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> Quite some signal down here in Bracknell IO91PJ tonight 2000z John, 
> good solid 579 with no QSB and now copying GM4ISM at 419!
> 
> I have made an mp3 recording which you will find among my other 
> recordings at 
> http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/2007/06/05/500khz-recordings


Thanks Dave!

974km, can't be bad. 

I heard G3XVL working G3DXZ this morning, he's in Ipswich JO02nb as I
heard in the QSO. Daylight conditions! He was very
weak but readable. I'd already worked Chas G3DXZ.

I'll go and retrieve the recording imediately.

I think conditions are making a turn for the better now. Just wish the
static would die down!


Some BC interference on the band now. Not sure what it's from. 

Cheers, 

John GM4SLV IP90gg, Clousta, Shetland


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Hi John,

I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of been 
sendiong  io83fk   .....

Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band 
display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the 
amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks like 
the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked at 
birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two data streams 
, testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not show on your site, 
till some time after the lower one .. odd

Looks like to  night , Gary captured a bad case of double parking !

Tnx

Graham ..





----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:15:58 +0100
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in
>> QRSS scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows
>> who it is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.
>
>
> The QRSS faded down but has come back up and a callsign is clear - G0NBD
>
> Hello Graham!
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> Cheers,
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> John
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Andy, all,

Last year, I did a MathCad analysis of the fields from a small vertical 
and a small magnetic loop at 137 kHz. The program calculated the vector 
E and H fields, and the magnitude of E/H for distances from 1 to 10 km. 
For the vertical, there are three terms to consider for the E field, and 
two for the H field. The situation is reversed with the loop, with three 
terms for the H field, and two for the E field.

Comparing the calculated |E/H| values with the "far field" value of 377 
ohms, the error was about 12% at 1 km and 1% at 3 km for both types of 
antenna. The errors at 1 km were in opposite directions, as one would 
expect, favoring the E field for the vertical, and the H field for the 
loop.

If you grant a measurement error of 1%, then it would be best to take 
readings no closer than 3 km from a small 137 kHz antenna, which would 
be lambda/(0.73). If higher errors are permissible, then you can move 
in, but I'd have trouble recommending the 1 km figure at that frequency.

As Andy points out, there is at least one other far-field concept that 
doesn't apply to us LF hobbyists. That only refers to large antennas, 
where the height of a vertical, for example, is significant compared to 
the distance. A corollary occurs with multi-element arrays, where the 
directional pattern is distorted if the spacing between the towers is 
significant compared to the distance.

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Hi John,

I would expect a second sound card to work ok as XP will certainly support 2 
cards to run simultaniously if not more. Cards cost so little it's not a lot 
to spend if doesn't work. You can of course use the mic input on the 
exsisting card but it will require some input attenuation.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would 
like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is 
used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only 
microphone).

HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this 
computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am 
using one, the other must be inactive.

Has anyone any comments, please?

John F5VLF






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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only trace of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Ok Henny no problem ! vy good signal .

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *that was me pa3cpm with a smal signal for pa3ego to get th right=20
> freg.on his argo.*
> **=20
> *henny pa3cpm*
> *73s*

--=20
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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only trace of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hello Jeff,

Wow lots of power. I can still hear a little carrier right now. 189kc is 
still strong and some other weak signals around 172kc?

Very good bad conditions this morning.
Mike
WE0H

F6CWN wrote:
> Good morning Mike,
> You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
> 2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)
> 
> http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
> http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=longwave_transmitter_allouis
> 
> VY 73: Jeff F6CWN


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Again very high static level. Signal level of the 3 T/A signals from
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS was a bit higher.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hi all,
A little quieter last night on 500Khz, but conditions still OK
I worked Finbar 579 with almost no QSB during the day . We had a long chat 
on the key (something I have almost never done)  all my CW operation in VHF 
, microwave and moonbounce and is very 'rubber stamp' albeit often at very 
low signal levels.  John GM4SLV replied to by CQ later in the evening. To 
start with I had 100% copy, but the QSB took a bite out of signals and the 
QSO ended.
A little modification was then done to my exciter, putting a socket for 
connection of an external 8MHz source.
I am now driving the exciter with about 10mW of 8MHz from a Softmark DDS. 
This gives me full frequency agility on the band, and I am no longer 
rock-bound
I called CQ for a while, I heard a faint something at one point, but no 
QSOs.. by midnight my signal on the Birmingham grabber was getting quite 
strong, but of course no activity.
hand sent my call on QRSS at one stage, .. must build an interface to the PC 
:<)
Should be on tonight, looking for anyone to try a QSO with, and observing
73s
Mark GM4ISM

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> Hello LF,
>
> After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must be
> a first for me!?
>
> I'm just about to try a FET transplant to save see if a BUZ24 will
> survive a few more volts.
>
> Hope to be back on within an few minutes,
>
> John GM4SLV IP90gg
>
>
>
>
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Dear LF enthusiasts,
TNX by all for the reports, very useful to me!
Congrats Laurence for new one in 9V1!

I have no problems with TX DFCW now, but there was a problem with exact
installation of TX freq (reverse "L" is not problem)

I did't improve RF ground Sep 19, but by 20z the ant current has grown up
to 2.4A (lamp's anode current Ia has remained former)
I have 3 HF bidirectional beverages 320m long everyone (i.e. 6 separate
wires on 320m), but I'll install them only Sep 21 or 22 as TX RF ground

Today I'll try to TX on 137778 in DFCW120 - no RX

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru




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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the reports and comments!

My beacon was from abt 1520z up to 20z
TX ant current was 1,8..2A - no more ;-(
Weather on a Machta(KN97LN) is dry, temp +26...+28 C in the day and
+14...+16 C at night, wind abt 3-5 m/s NW

In attaches my signal on 9V1's grabber for different days abt 17-19z
The best propagation was Sep 20

Yesterday has checked up a level of local QRN on beverage - while quite
not bad - abt on +6..+12dB above than in the best winter's night
usually at this time +18...+25dB above

Today I'll improve TX RF ground and do the beverage (BOG) to ZL

After the ZL-test (abt 19z) I'll CQing on 137.700

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru

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Hi all,

The attached table has summary information of stations that ZM2E will look 
out for.  There are also stateside signals we will look out for.

73, Bob ZL2CA 

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> 
> This is the text of a message I sent earlier, but has not appeared on the 
> reflector, maybe because of attached file size.
> 
> 73, Bob
> 
> Hi all readers,
> 
> Thanks to all who tried to receive ZM2E.  It seems that VK6 is our furthest 
> reception report so far.  We had fairly good LF DX last night, receiving 
> something from every R6L beacon.  See the attached Argo graphic, timed at 
> 1812z, a few minutes before ZL sunrise.  It shows beacon IDs of L, A and W, 
> and frequency included.  

"A" - UA0AET ("AET"), when Vit change frequency up,
also he was see on KL1X@9V

Dmitry


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Gents, I am QRV now, single freq xtal, 502.225=20
Can see myself ob B ham and Shetland grabbers, nice QSO with Finbar earlier,=
 and GI3PDN is a good sig too
Antenna match is off a bit, it is rather wet here :<(
I will listen on my freq, and also elsewhere if I see something on waterfall
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QSO with Finbar earlier, and GI3PDN is a good sig too</FONT></DIV>
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Roelof,
Many thanks for the report , I am on the East coast and not far from
Felixstowe in Suffolk.
You are 182Km away.

Chris G3XVL
Ipswich, Suffolk
JO02NB

On 25/09/2007, Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> wrote:
>
>  Hello Finbar, etc.
>
> Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.
> There is some very fast QSB on all signals.
> GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and G3XVL is even a few dB
> stronger.
> This is measured in a 24 Hz wide bandwidth.
> Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot to watch the meter.
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Roelof,<br>Many thanks for the report , I am on the East coast and not far from Felixstowe in Suffolk. <br>You are 182Km away.<br><br>Chris G3XVL<br>Ipswich, Suffolk<br>JO02NB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 25/09/2007, 
<b class="gmail_sendername">Roelof Bakker</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">






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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hello Finbar, etc.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now 
copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">There is some very fast QSB on all 
signals.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and 
G3XVL is even a few dB stronger.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This is measured in a 24 Hz wide 
bandwidth.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot 
to watch the meter.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</font></div>
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Hello all,

I am very pleased to report aural copy of my first ever heard Scottish stati=
on on 500 kHz.
GM4ISM was 20 dB over  my noise floor in JO11tm.
Heard on a SPM-30 and the world's smallest LF antenna.

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am very pleased to report aural copy of&n=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4ISM was 20 dB over&nbsp; my noise floor=20=
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David , tnx ,
My setup :   http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Setup/Setup.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre

David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Yes excellent conditions this afternoon.  I wish I had tuned in much=20
> earlier.  I started to observe ZM2E when I first tuned in around 1.5=20
> hours before my local sunset time.  Currently I am still in bright=20
> sunlight at this end.
>
> In reply to your question - My receiver is a Yaesu FT-920=20
> (transceiver).  I would have thought that it's performance down on 137=20
> would have been rather poor.  Surprisingly it seems to work quite=20
> well.  My antenna is 250M of 2.5 mm diameter galvanized fencing wire=20
> (no insulation).  The wire is sitting on damp grass (at ground level)=20
> and pointing roughly 90 degrees orientation from due North.  I have a=20
> 30M long coax feed with a Z =3D 9:1 toroidal isolation / matching=20
> transformer wound on an FT50-J core.
>
> Regards,
>
> David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>> Hello David ,
>>
>> Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
>> David what your setup please ?
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>>
>> David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
>>> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
> VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv
>
> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
>
>
>

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David and others,

DIV> This weekend I plan to run a grabber on 137.
Very useful news!

DIV> Details can be found on my web site as shown below.  I have no 
DIV> difficulty seeing NDB activity from ZL and from Norfolk Island.  
DIV> Hopefully if conditions are favorable you should be able to view at
DIV> least the ZM2E signal as seen from Western Australia.
David, I already now see a good picture on yours grabber

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Hi David

My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120  21/09 
21:45-21:55 "Y"
I don't see graber after 21:45 utc

Dmitry

David Isele - VK6DI wrote:

> Hello Dmitry,
>
> Yes that seems possible.  The signal faded rapidly after the gray line 
> moved offshore at my end.
>
> The grabber will continue again on 137 Saturday & Sunday night,
>
> Regards,
>
> David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
> ________________________
>
> Dmitry wrote:
>
>> Hi LF
>>
>> I think it's RU6LA traces:
>>
>> Dmitry
>
> VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv
>
> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
>
>



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Ok John

That was me on 503  (g0nbd) in cross band  psk31 qso with Gary g4wgt on top 
band  , we managed a full duplex qso with little problem , we are looking 
into a  psk based arq mode , tonights qso was a dummy run with 'normal' 
psk31

Tnx - Graham ..




----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:06:33 +0100
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello LF,
>>
>> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
>> on 502.7kHz.
>
> Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3
>
> There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 - only
> just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.
>
> There's some deep QSB around as well as some QRN.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 




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Quite some signal down here in Bracknell IO91PJ tonight 2000z John, 
good solid 579 with no QSB and now copying GM4ISM at 419!

I have made an mp3 recording which you will find among my other 
recordings at 
http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/2007/06/05/500khz-recordings

Been busy on other things (including chasing 3B7C on the hf bands) so 
not been able to get on tx lately.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello David ,

Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
David what your setup please ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
>
>
>

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Malcolm,

> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.

Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the 
calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is 
being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power 
and take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry 
and current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains 
valid as long as you agree to take your real measurements under 
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A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler 
arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
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Finbar,
Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
(400 miles)


73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)

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Finbar,<br>Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about&nbsp; RST 439<br>(400 miles)<br><br><br>73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br>

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Hi, John, LF,

You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
detect any sign of Mark however.

RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!


On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>
> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> > be a first for me!?
>
> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.


Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!


I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!


I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
give it a try.

I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
time.

Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.

You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.

We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.

I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
(with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.

Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)

John GM4SLV IP90gg








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Hello Hartmut
 
Thanks for the reports.  I wonder if you have posted the  report for 
WD2XSH/17 onto the reports page at .www.500kc.com.  It may  encourage someone further 
west to try an evening of QRS3 aimed at Europe.
 
My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX  and 
5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the 
house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. However the 
antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity 
towards you due to 'reflection' ??
 
73
 
David    
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 16/09/2007 08:24:19 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:


>From  the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
from G0MRF  was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
higher  power.

Captures and signal plots can be seen  here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:  JO52hp







   

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Cq cross band ,

Running psk TX >  on 502.5 Khz ,

-QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.579  MHz  (usb)

-QSK- Please call if you copy the 502.5 Khz signal,  3.578 monitor running 
in parallel with tx

Tnx - Graham ..

G0NBD . 




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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:53:26 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> John
> 
> Brian has said to me during QSOs that he has a high urban noise
> level. 

Thanks for the info Tom.

This just adds to the weight of argument for an increased ERP limit. My
100mW just can't make it through to "normal" stations even though the
path loss is acceptable. The remote noise floor is often too high.

Brian must radiate well enough as he's consistently readable by ear -
on the loudspeaker - during the day.

Thanks.

John
GM4SLV IP90gg


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Andy, Graham

Sorry but I'm not going to be any help sorting out the difficulty with Jason since all machines here
are running 98SE. I'm sure Alberto would be interested to hear about the problem and want to resolve
any issues. Not sure if he still monitors this list an e mail might be in order.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
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> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>
> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> OS  - which is a
> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> > wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> >
> > running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> >
> > G ..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >
> >
> > > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> > >
> > > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> > >
> > > Jason software can be found here:
> > >
> > > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> > >
> > > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > > PSKFEC31.
> > >
> > > Reception reports are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>



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Hello,

Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com wrote:
> Please get a look for example at http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/LWBC.pdf for a quite up-to-date list of LW broadcast transmitters.

216 kHz Oslo/Norway has been QRT for years and 243 kHz
Kalundborg/Denmark went QRT on Feb 15 2007 after ~80 years on the air..

73
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Lots of stations beaconing tonight, GM4SLV is 539 'fast' CW G0NBD and of cou=
rse GI4DPE.
I will call cw normal speed at 23:00z on 503.00
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy WD2XES and WD2XKO
Very noisy (thunderstorm)

the captures of night are at :
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Have put up a temporary active 'ferrite rod' antenna, only 3m up. ends E-W
Impressive results DI2AM is 559, SM6BHZ also.
GI4DPE 579
not dissimilar to what I have heard on the inverted L, though tonight I cann=
ot do a direct comparison.

I will get this waterproofed, and I will at least be able to listen if the w=
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Waiting by the post-box for NOV...
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have put up a temporary&nbsp;active 'ferrit=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Impressive results DI2AM is 559, SM6BHZ=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GI4DPE 579</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
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Hallo LF and Finbar!
There is very hard QRN this evening, but I have seen nice signal on
501,318kHz. It is audible 319 as well! Sorry, about bad QRN.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Thanks for the report John, nice to know the signal is making it up there. I
was trying to work F6CNI crossband to 80 on CW and ended up working F6BWO
crossband on QRS!
Had a two-way CW QSO with Jeff on 136 this morning where we can run some
welly..

73 Dave G3YXM

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> Hello LF,
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> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
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Thanks for the report John, nice to know the signal is making it up there. I was trying to work F6CNI crossband to 80 on CW and ended up working F6BWO crossband on QRS!<br>Had a two-way CW QSO with Jeff on 136 this morning where we can run some welly..
<br><br>73 Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 22/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Pumford-Green GM4SLV</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello LF,<br><br>I&#39;ve just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
<br>on 502.7kHz. I hear Mal G3KEV now calling CQ on 502.5 at the same time!<br><br>Regards,<br><br>John GM4SLV<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Good conditions tonight! All beacons has been very strong, nice signal
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Very high noise level during the night. Copied RA3YO sending "Y" and
UA4WPF sending "W" 17:30-18:45.

Due to the high noise level only poor copy of the 3 T/A signals
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS 23:30-04:30

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

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John - I think the clock was set to GMT. I checked the computer in the morni=
ng after resuming power and thats what appeared and checked out against NST.
=20
I was hoping to get 3 hours reception on the PC with second unit battery but=
 I seem to have gained a DVD in the slot.....too much rush out of Singapore.=
 Ill be looking again this evening.
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Thanks for the signals. It was a cold morning with temps below freezing and=20=
snow on the lower part of themountains here
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Laurence KL1X/Mobile
BP51
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> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:49:46 -0400> From: w1tag@w1tag.com> To: rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz 16/17th Sep> > Laurence,> > Wi=
th some imagination, that does look like an S on the left and most of > an X=
 on the right. The frequencies are certainly right. Was the clock > time (of=
f as it may be) supposed to be UTC?> > Interesting!> > John Andrews, W1TAG>=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>John - I think the clock was set to GMT. I checked=
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d checked out against NST.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I was hoping to get 3 hours reception on the PC with second unit battery but=
 I seem to have gained a DVD in the slot.....too much rush out of Singapore.=
 Ill be looking again this evening.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks for the signals. It was a cold morning with temps below freezing and=20=
snow on the lower part of themountains here<BR>
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BP51<BR>
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Chris, LF

I'm off work today and just looked at the grabber here and see G3XIZ in
QRSS (slower than 3 sec dots?) nicely at around 503.95.

Not bad for daytime to Shetland.

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You can have as many cards as you like - try a USB one like the Edirol
UA-1EX for good quality audio, or the Logitech headset for headphone /
boom-mic.

Or do HP have some sort of corrupted operating systems that isn't
properly windows compliant?  Back in the days of real DOS, HP machines
were notorious for being "different"

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


On 16/09/2007, John RABSON <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone).
>
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am using one, the other must be inactive.
>
> Has anyone any comments, please?
>
> John F5VLF
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The new ones heard the past days:

02.09.2007  08:45  321  SP   DNK   Vojens / Skrydstrup
17.09.2007  02:48  332  YFM  CAN   La Grande 4
17.09.2007  02:46  334  AR   ISL   Akureyi
17.09.2007  04:26  343  TST  ENG   Redhill
17.09.2007  04:18  390  VP   CAN   Kuujjuaq / Kujack

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Several weeks ago following a request for comments in preparation for a
meeting with Ofcom, I received a number of useful inputs from holders of the
500kHz NoV.  The meeting was the standard quarterly Ofcom/RSGB Forum that
covers, as one might expect, a wide range of issues. =20

I reported on how UK amateurs are getting on with their 500kHz NoVs and made
a strong plea for an increase in the permitted ERP level as well as an
extension to the period of the NoV.  This was well taken, albeit without
immediate feedback.  Ofcom explained that they need to take note of the
forthcoming WRC07 where the IMO are making a strong pitch for re-use of the
area around 500kHz, however, given that any implementation of new
allocations could be lengthy there could be a window for further
experimental use. There was also some indication that they might agree to an
increase in ERP.=20

So at this stage we have put our case for greater ERP and a longer duration
for the NoV; Ofcom have heard our case and will respond in due course.  Now
is not the time to start building that QRO TX!

I would like to thank all who responded to my call for input and comments,
in particular to John, GM4SLV and Jim, M0BMU.

73 John, G3WKL
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only trace of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hello Jay.
 
Is there any documented information on the detail of applying forward error  
correction to PSK31?  
 
I have a beacon running here which has CW and PSK31 coded into a fixed  
message on a PIC16F84 controller chip, but I also have an interest in using FEC  
for this and some AMSAT projects.
 
Presumably, you have a dedicated piece of receive software for the  decoding?
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 23/09/2007 11:17:25 GMT Standard Time,  
JRusgrove@comcast.net writes:


Tonight's test will be PSK31 and PSKFEC31. I'll let the transmitter  run 
until 0300Z and post a
schedule later this morning.

Thanks again  for watching...always amazed at what you can dig out!

Jay W1VD   WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2







   

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Alberto  reminded me that this issue of Jason appearing to lock-up was
mentioned earlier here.  Set the compatibility mode for the Jason
software to Win98/ME and it works fine.    I did this for Tcube too,
which had shown a similar problem once or twice.

Andy  G4JNT
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt




On 23/09/2007, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I can make Jason run by launching it twice, then going into Task
> Mnager and deleting the first instance of Jason.exe from the process
> list - the second instance  appears, lower down..   After deleting the
> first one, the prog bursts into life    I've sent the details to
> Alberto..
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Andy,
> >
> > Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio
> > of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a
> > few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc ,
> > with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based
> > spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the
> > original .
> >
> > G ..
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >
> >
> > > I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> > > appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> > > and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> > > an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> > > based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
> > >
> > > I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> > > OS  - which is a
> > > Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
> > >
> > > Andy  G4JNT
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> > >> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> > >>
> > >> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> > >>
> > >> G ..
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> > >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> > >> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz
> > >> > as
> > >> > follows:
> > >> >
> > >> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> > >> >
> > >> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> > >> >
> > >> > Jason software can be found here:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> > >> >
> > >> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > >> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > >> > PSKFEC31.
> > >> >
> > >> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > >> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > >> > 9/21/2007 14:02
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > > 9/21/2007 14:02
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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John.

Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew PA0SE 
must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we have 
to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is sufficiently 
well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.

73 Malcolm.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration


> Malcolm,
>
>> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>
> Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the 
> calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is 
> being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power and 
> take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry and 
> current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains valid 
> as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field 
> conditions.
>
> A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler 
> arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 




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Hello LF,

Since every 500kHz QSO is a milestone for me I thought I'd report
another new station worked.

I heard G3DXZ calling CQ at 18:35 UTC. I've answered many of his CQs in
the past to no avail but tonight he replied to my reply. I nearly fell
off my chair!

Conditions weren't too good - with some QSB and severe QRN but we
exhanged RST, name, QTH, station details and even a WX report (stromy
up here, as usual!)

As I type this he is even stronger, calling CQ again.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland Is.




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I'm glad the grabber is coming in handy.
Beware of making any comparisons night-for-night with it.. I use a rotatable
Welbrook receiving loop to feed the grabber receivers and I have to turn it
to remove various local noises which come and go. One day you might just be
in the null!

73
Dave G3YXM

On 27/09/2007, Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but
> even John was up and down,
> I am running now on 503.000
> Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:01 PM
> Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>
>
>
> > Hi, John, LF,
> >
> > You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> > detect any sign of Mark however.
> >
> > RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
> >
> > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> > Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> > Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
> > "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> >>
> >> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> >> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> >> > be a first for me!?
> >>
> >> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
> >> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.
> >
> >
> > Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!
> >
> >
> > I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
> > I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
> >
> >
> > I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
> > one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
> > give it a try.
> >
> > I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
> > permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
> > time.
> >
> > Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.
> >
> > You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
> > in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
> > had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
> > the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
> > It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.
> >
> > We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
> > Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.
> >
> > I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
> > (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.
> >
> > Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)
> >
> > John GM4SLV IP90gg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date:
> > 27/09/2007 11:06
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>


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I&#39;m glad the grabber is coming in handy.<br>Beware of making any comparisons night-for-night with it.. I use a rotatable Welbrook receiving loop to feed the grabber receivers and I have to turn it to remove various local noises which come and go. One day you might just be in the null!
<br><br>73<br>Dave G3YXM<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk">markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
seems condx not stable, I was on Dave&#39;s grabber fb before and after, but<br>even John was up and down,<br>I am running now on 503.000<br>Mark GM4ISM IO85AR<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Dave G3WCB&quot; &lt;
<a href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:01 PM
<br>Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber &lt;GM4SLV&gt;<br><br><br>&gt; Hi, John, LF,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn&#39;t<br>&gt; detect any sign of Mark however.<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; RX is a W&amp;G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: <a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
</a><br>&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]On Behalf Of John<br>&gt; Pumford-Green GM4SLV<br>&gt; Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35<br>&gt; To: <a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100<br>&gt; &quot;Dave Sergeant&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dave@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; After a few CQ calls I&#39;ve put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; ninutes and see my signal on Dave&#39;s grabber in Birmingham. That must
<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; be a first for me!?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I<br>&gt;&gt; heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave&#39;s grabber,<br>&gt; I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer<br>&gt; one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn&#39;t hang around and<br>&gt; give it a try.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;m starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
<br>&gt; permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first<br>&gt; time.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Was hearing by ear G3XIZ&#39;s QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
<br>&gt; in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We<br>&gt; had a ball. I&#39;m hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off<br>&gt; the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
<br>&gt; It&#39;s no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We&#39;ve been received at good readable strength in Finland now by<br>&gt; Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;ve heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
<br>&gt; (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; John GM4SLV IP90gg<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<br>&gt; Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>&gt; Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date:<br>&gt; 27/09/2007 11:06
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br><br>--<br>No virus found in this outgoing message.<br>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date: 27/09/2007 11:06<br><br><br><br></blockquote>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hello LF gang,

That was some night!

Worked a new G station in Chas G3DXZ.

Worked the first ever GM - GM on 500 with GM4ISM (at 519km it even
qualifies as "DX"!)

Finbar GI4DPE was the lynchpin of the next great QSOs... I worked GI3PDN
with the best signals I've ever heard from Ray and then worked the first
GM - GW with GW4HXO (at a distance of approx 950km)

Many listener reports have come in by email that I need to deal with
too.

Let's have more nights like this!

The QRN and QSB was still quite bad, but signals were generally up on
normal and able to cope better.

I noticed Mark GM4ISM's signal was suffering the affects worst of all,
with deep QSB and fast drop outs of individual letters. Some strange
multipath propagation? I've noticed similar effects from time to time
before on Finbar's signal during "marginal" conditions between us.

The weather up here is awful - stormy winds and heavy showers of static
rain wiping out the band from time to time.

There was much dial twiddling as everyone seemed to be on different
frequencies - and with a 10Hz filter there's not much margin for error! 

Great fun... 

Cheers and good night,

John GM4SLV,
Shetland
IP90gg


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Wanted , software to  'Grab'  'Grabbers'

I know windows tends to  be a event driven process,

But is there a prog , that works with windows , that will , download and 
save the grabber website screens , or the Jpeg file if its available ?

You would have to  give it the path and the time period , leave it and come 
back  to  as many saved files as you like .. as long as you dident fill the 
hard drive ..

You could  then look over the 'data' later on ... for example , if you run a 
beacon over night  a save every 15 mins would give a good idea of the path .

Any ideas etc ???

Graham ..





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Just copied GM4ISM with Q3 in QSO with GI4DPE at S0,5 over noise on 503kHz
Then GI4DPE works GW4HXO on same QRG, both are S0,5 over noise

Right now GM4ISM is calling CQ with Q5 signal on 503,2

Amazing condx atm!


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Hi Dmitry,

My grabber is now set for 120S dots 137777.75 kHz.

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
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Dmitry wrote:-----Original Message-----
> I'm ready to beacons on 137777.75 dfcw120 at 15:50 utc
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> Dmitry
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> KO73dg


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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia and America,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) arrived well by the back of the antenna.
On the American continent good copy of WD2XNS, WD2XES and traces of WD2XKO.
the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Ge LF.

nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!

look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

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Hi all,
  my first report on 137 whit my "500" T antenna (with 2mH).
G3XIZ 10:10 local
This morning BWO QSO XIZ 11:30 local
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XES into BP51  - I had a very small window of opportunity when I parked up l=
ast night but grabbed John XES  - just a trace of XKO QRSS but lots of lines=
 near Dex freq. Looks around 5300Kms to Johns from here. My clock time maybe=
 off an hour
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Laurence KL1X mobile
40 miles North of Anchorage
SDR IQ + eprobe on roof of truck
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><BR>XES into BP51&nbsp;&nbsp;- I had a very small=20=
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Laurence KL1X mobile<BR>
40 miles North of Anchorage<BR>
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Hi All -
   
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<div>Hi All -</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY on about 503 kHz.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id - anyone else copy it?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Brian (G3YKB)</div><p>&#32;


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Hello LFers !

Last night many storn ! I copy only WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
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Chris,

peaking rst 559 in wallasey ,  in qso with finbar .. very deep qsb , zero si=
g in the dips ..=20

active night hihi

Graham ..
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris McCarthy=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:15 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: GI4DPE beacon audible in Suffolk


   now peaking RST 549 QSB


  On 23/09/2007, Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:=20
    Finbar,
    Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
    (400 miles)


    73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>peaking rst 559 in wallasey ,&nbsp; in qso=20=
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finbar .. very deep qsb , zero sig in the dips .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>active night hihi</FONT></DIV>
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ble in=20
  Suffolk</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;now peaking RST 549 QSB<BR><BR>
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Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 

21:50  local , seeing nothing , 

quite low uniform noise level 

Only trace I have is  504 

Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK 



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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the impressing reports!

Abt 18z Vlad UA6LV looked my signal on a site Laurence
http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg - looked there was a very strong signal, which would
for certain be looked in 30s mode and more powerful than yesterday Sep19
probably propagation R6L-ZL is improved

R6L-9V QRB abt 8050km i.e 9V is on abt half of path R6L - New Zealand

Today I'll try to TX on 137778 in DFCW120 and I'll do the beverage
(BOG) abt 2km long to Europe and testing RX parts after 20z

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru

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Only a few reports received last night. Due to high static conditions, and generally poor reception
of all three modes, not much worthwhile came from the test. Will run the test again under quieter
conditions. Thanks to the all who participated in the test.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
based software packages won't run until the process is closed.

I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
OS  - which is a
Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.

Andy  G4JNT


On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>
> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>
> G ..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as
> > follows:
> >
> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> >
> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> >
> > Jason software can be found here:
> >
> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> >
> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> > PSKFEC31.
> >
> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
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> >
> >
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>
>


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Thanks Garry for the report.
73
Chris G3XVL Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB

On 18/09/2007, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris, LF,
>
> Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
> OK. Not audible so far.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
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Thanks Garry for the report.<br>73<br>Chris G3XVL Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Gary - G4WGT</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Chris, LF,<br><br>Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
<br>OK. Not audible so far.<br><br>73<br><br>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Ok John,

Fine on that, well have a look back in you files , about   9 till midnigh 
i saved one file at 21:12 , shows a qsy , hf which resulted in the carriers 
dropping out ..
the bham plots also show the strenght changing with frequency, but still 
inside the 'normal' qsb time  of  60/90 seconds . Stopped the test after 
about 1 hour and set the cw beacon running.

Next time , ill see if i can get a signal top/middle and bottom band .. see 
if changes the pattern ?


Tnx

G ..



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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:24:54 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of
>> been sendiong  io83fk   .....
>
>
> Hi Graham,LF
>
> My mistake! It was IO83LK... That'll teach me for trying to read CW
> visually and then remembering it in order to write an email.
>
>
>> Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band
>> display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the
>> amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks
>> like the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked
>> at birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two
>> data streams , testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not
>> show on your site, till some time after the lower one .. odd
>
>
>
> I will have a look through the captures and see if I can spot the
> effects you mention. If you need any pics I can send them down. Each 5
> minute capture is stored here.
>
>
> Wonder if the auroral conditions played any part in the propagation?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Ge Dmitry.

yes i see, but your signal is also "O" now any dwn.

Ed HRE
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  Ge Ed

  dl2hre wrote:

    Ge LF.

    nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!
  It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA

  Dmitry
  RA3YO


    look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

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Solid copy of WD2XSH/6 in QRSS3 02:50-03:05 over a distance of 4964mi
or about 7900km on 505.266kHz . Nice CW copy of WD2XSH/17 on
505.75kHz. From the UK copied G0MRF.


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Brief copy of the Jason Fast transmission from WE2XGR/2 on 508.5 kHz
about 01:45. From the Jason Normal transmission until 01:00 I got only
a few signs, but no full copy of the message.

Copied the WD2XSH/17 part of the QSO between XSH/17 and XSH/6. From
WD2XSH/6 some traces were visible during the QSO but not much
readable. Copied a brief "/6" later on 505.265 when WD2XSH/6 was back
in beacon mode.

>From the UK copied G0MRF and G3XIZ.

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How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind .... 
wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..

running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date

G ..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as 
> follows:
>
> 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>
> 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>
> Jason software can be found here:
>
> http://www.weaksignals.com/
>
> Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow 
> night's test will be PSK31 /
> PSKFEC31.
>
> Reception reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 9/21/2007 14:02
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> 




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Hi Mike,

> Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
> this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 

      Yes that is what 2 million watts into a good antenna will do....

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Hi Jean-Pierre I guess that is Ed RU6LA with his special call-sign ??

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Hall ,
>
> What is " L " transmission !
>
> on ~137.7725
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> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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When I looked at my captures this morning I first thought a new EU
beacon was on air on 505 kHz. I need a few seconds to realize that it
was WD2XSH/17. Copied the CW signal very strong until 00:59 on 505.75
kHz and the QRSS3 signal on about 505.26 kHz. I have posted several
captures to my website.

>From the UK I copied G3XIZ and G0MRF.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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Hi all,

A change to the first part of the ZM2E LF DX night, we will be beaconing ZZZ=
Z... from 0600 to 0850z tonight 23 September, with timing to start a Z on th=
e hour and at 10 minute timing for each Z.

ZM2E will be listening out for UA0 or other calls from 0900z, and ZM2E will=20=
thereafter send Z on a 15 or 45 minutes past each hour unless going to QSO m=
ode.

73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A change to the first part&nbsp;of the ZM2E=
 LF DX=20
night, we will be beaconing ZZZZ... from 0600 to 0850z tonight 23 September,=
=20
with timing to start a Z on the hour and at 10 minute timing for each=20
Z.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ZM2E&nbsp;will be listening out for UA0 or=20=
other=20
calls from 0900z, and ZM2E will thereafter send Z on a 15 or 45 minutes past=
=20
each hour unless going to QSO mode.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL</FONT></DIV>
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Hi John, LF,

GM4SLV CW beacon audible here RST 519. Although not moving S meter audibly 
S1 with 100 Hz audio filter.

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Hi LF,

 I set up an internet audio stream some time ago to broadcast the QRSS part
 of the 2200 m band and seems to be ready for a larger audience.
 It does not produce static images as grabbers do, instead it acts as a
 remote receiving location which means you get real time baseband audio.
 
 The audio stream uses the OGG Vorbis data format (to get rid of the non
 free MP3) with a 44100 Hz sample rate. It might look a bit oversized at
 first glance, but lower values such as 11025 give inacurate frequency
 reading with some sound cards.

 The RX tuning frequency, usually 137700 or 137778, is transposed to 700 Hz
 for the audio stream. The frequency error is less than 0.1 Hz when used
 with a properly calibrated sound card without excessive drift.

 If you connect to the server, you likely will hear the typical hiss/noise,
 and no more. So you have to run your own spectrum analysis tools
 (SpectrumLab or Argo) and choose whatever parameter you decide to run.
 It's really up to you !

 How to connect the server ?

 1) from your favorite browser http://f5wk.dyndns.org:8000
    and then "Click to Listen"

 2) from Winamp  http://f5wk.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg


 I suggest you use Winamp (VLC should work) with the waveOut output plug-in
 and a stock SpectrumLab and the quick settings.
 You don't need a second sound card to establish an audio connection between
 Winamp and SpectrumLab *IF* you can configure your audio mixer to read from
 the waveIn source line (ie record from "What you ear")

 Due to my limited upload capability, the stream server does not allow more
 than 6 simultaneous connections. Sorry about that ...

 Server is now up and running ...

  73 de Michel f5wk
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Hello,
I got an old LF Receiver -> Teletron LWF4a.=20
It's working fine. (I checked this today in transmitting with my
LF-Exciter). So far so good, but this receiver is just a fixed frequency
receiver (quartz crystal of 131.7KHz). Actual receiving frequency is
"134.2KHz".=20

Does anyone know this receiver and if yes, is it possible to trim it for
~137.700KHz?
Will it be a new crystal or is it just adjusting the band pass filters?

Many thanks and a nice weekend

vy73
Marco
DD7PC

mailto:dd7pc@gmx.de
http://dd7pc.qsl.nu


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Hello Ed  and all ,
Tnx for info ,
73 qro J-P f1afj

dl2hre a =C3=A9crit :
> GM Jean-Piere, LF.
>
> between 1900 and 1930utc i see also W for UA4WPF on 137.7772KHz on=20
> your screen.
>  i captured yesterday:
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> 73 Ed DL2HRE
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M=C3=A9r=C3=A9"=20
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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> Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WKO , L , YO
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> Hello LF ,
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> This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
> =E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
> On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.
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> the captures of night are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/
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Hello Jean-Pierre,

Yes excellent conditions this afternoon.  I wish I had tuned in much 
earlier.  I started to observe ZM2E when I first tuned in around 1.5 
hours before my local sunset time.  Currently I am still in bright 
sunlight at this end.

In reply to your question - My receiver is a Yaesu FT-920 
(transceiver).  I would have thought that it's performance down on 137 
would have been rather poor.  Surprisingly it seems to work quite well.  
My antenna is 250M of 2.5 mm diameter galvanized fencing wire (no 
insulation).  The wire is sitting on damp grass (at ground level) and 
pointing roughly 90 degrees orientation from due North.  I have a 30M 
long coax feed with a Z = 9:1 toroidal isolation / matching transformer 
wound on an FT50-J core.

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

Jean-Pierre Mr wrote:
> Hello David ,
>
> Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
> David what your setup please ?
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>
> David Isele - VK6DI a crit :
>> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


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Im seeing very low sig 503  and 503.3 looks like qrss signal but cannot 
resolve

503 appeares to  be reaching shetland with same copy

also have good copy on finbar working  gm4ism , but nothing from gm4ism , 
assum is on same frequency ?

Grahm .. 




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Hello Alan  , tnx
73 qro Jean-Pierre

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre I guess that is Ed RU6LA with his special call-sign ??
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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> Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is " L"
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>> What is " L " transmission !
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>> on ~137.7725
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>> 73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Graham, LF,

Thanks for IDing the PSK signal. Perhaps next time I'll have a look on
top-band at the same time.

Finbar told me in QSO tonight that he's sorted out a top-band antenna
so a CW full-duplex crossband QSO might be in the offing! I can't
transmit on top band - no suitable antenna - but can receive with a
PS0RDT mini-whip fairly well at the same time as I TX on 500.

Thanks for the info on your interesting experiment.

John GM4SLV



On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:24:15 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Ok John
> 
> That was me on 503  (g0nbd) in cross band  psk31 qso with Gary g4wgt
> on top band  , we managed a full duplex qso with little problem , we
> are looking into a  psk based arq mode , tonights qso was a dummy run
> with 'normal' psk31
> 
> Tnx - Graham ..
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> >> Hello LF,
> >>
> >> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from
> >> G3YXM on 502.7kHz.
> >
> > Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3
> >
> > There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 -
> > only just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.
> >
> > There's some deep QSB around as well as some QRN.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John GM4SLV
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> > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
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Hi John, LF,

CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW attached.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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The CW-signal from WD2XSH/17 was visible 00:59-03:16. Due to a higher
noise level I had some trouble to copy the signal. Brief copy only
about 0137 and 03:10. I posted CW-captures to my website showing
WD2XSH/17 on 505.75 kHz along with the EU beacons DI2AM, DI2AG and
OK0EMW.

>From the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
from G0MRF was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
higher power.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Dear LF enthusiasts,

yesterday has found out what the space freq of DCF39 was 138830.5 !
it is my mistake?

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Hello Chris, LF

I'm hearing Chris call CQ, very weak but readable in a very quiet band.
Admittedly using a 30dB tunable pre-amp and 10Hz audio filter!

Have relied to the CQ many times but no joy. Oh well. Another day?


Cheers,

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Hello Jean-Pierre,

I understand the ID now.

Many thanks,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
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Hi, John, LF

GM4SLV heard calling GM4ISM on 502.244 kHz at 2045utc. GM4SLV is RST 559,
which is the strongest that I have heard you up to now. Plenty of deep QSB,
however.
Condx must be good tonight!


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 25 September 2007 21:26
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  Subject: LF: [500] GM4ISM 500KHz NOV - report


  Hi Mark, LF,

  I just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking
RST 339 on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were
also showing up on the G3YXM grabber.

  Congratulations on making it down this far south!

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
    Sent: 25 September 2007 12:50
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: GM4ISM 500KHz NOV


    Gents,
    I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this
evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna)
    I will announce details here.
    Regards
    Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
    www.dc2light.co.uk

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007>Hi,=20
John, LF</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN   class=3D489504620-2=
5092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007>GM4SLV=20
heard calling GM4ISM on 502.244 kHz at 2045utc. GM4SLV is RST 559, which is=20=
the=20
strongest that I have heard you up to now. Plenty of deep QSB,=20
however.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007>Condx=20
must be good tonight!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007><SPAN   class=3D386511520-25092007></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007><SPAN   class=3D386511520-25092007></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D489504620-250=
92007><SPAN   class=3D386511520-25092007>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S=
E=20
England.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTaho=
ma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave=20
  G3WCB<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 September 2007 21:26<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] GM4ISM 500KHz NO=
V -=20
  report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>Hi=20
  Mark, LF,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>I=20
  just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking RST=
 339=20
  on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were also=20
  showing up on the G3YXM grabber.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007>Congratulations on making it down this far=20
  south!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN     class=3D3865115=
20-25092007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D386511520-2=
5092007>73,=20
  Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
    </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 September 2007 12:50<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: GM4ISM 500KHz=20
    NOV<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gents,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have received my NOV this morning, so=
 with=20
    luck I will be QRV this evening (so long as the wind is low enough to ra=
ise=20
    the antenna)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will announce details here.</FONT></D=
IV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark GM4ISM IO85AR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A       href=3D"http://www.dc2light.co=
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Dear LF,

unfortunately my LF grabber froze yesterday, as I have been unable to access 
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Good luck to all
Markus, DF6NM
   

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<BR>
unfortunately my LF grabber froze yesterday, as I have been unable to access=
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<BR>
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Good luck to all<BR>
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For the first time I detected the QRSS3 signal from WD2XSH/6 on
505.266 kHz here in Germany. For a clear identification I made a
comparison with a screenshot from the "Ohio grabber". The signal was
visible about 02:50-03:20.
The high static level makes the copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17
on 505.75 kHz difficult. Best around 01:35 and 02:30.

>From the UK I copied the DFCW signal from G3XIZ and the QRSS3 signal
from G0MRF.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Copied UA4WPF "W", RA3YO "Y" and RU6LA "L" from Russia between 17:00
and 19:30.
Again heavy static overnight. Across the pond copied XES, XKO and XNS.

Captures can be seen here:
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Cq cross band ,

Running psk TX >  on 503.00 Khz ,

-QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.580  MHz  (usb)

-QSK- Please call if you copy the 503  Khz signal,  3.580 monitor running 

in parallel with tx

Tnx - Graham ..

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John.

Scaling your figures to 500kHz that gives a distance of about 820 metres for 
1% error, which ties in very nicely with my 955 metres, give or take.

Malcolm
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> Andy, all,
>
> Last year, I did a MathCad analysis of the fields from a small vertical 
> and a small magnetic loop at 137 kHz. The program calculated the vector E 
> and H fields, and the magnitude of E/H for distances from 1 to 10 km. For 
> the vertical, there are three terms to consider for the E field, and two 
> for the H field. The situation is reversed with the loop, with three terms 
> for the H field, and two for the E field.
>
> Comparing the calculated |E/H| values with the "far field" value of 377 
> ohms, the error was about 12% at 1 km and 1% at 3 km for both types of 
> antenna. The errors at 1 km were in opposite directions, as one would 
> expect, favoring the E field for the vertical, and the H field for the 
> loop.
>
> If you grant a measurement error of 1%, then it would be best to take 
> readings no closer than 3 km from a small 137 kHz antenna, which would be 
> lambda/(0.73). If higher errors are permissible, then you can move in, but 
> I'd have trouble recommending the 1 km figure at that frequency.
>
> As Andy points out, there is at least one other far-field concept that 
> doesn't apply to us LF hobbyists. That only refers to large antennas, 
> where the height of a vertical, for example, is significant compared to 
> the distance. A corollary occurs with multi-element arrays, where the 
> directional pattern is distorted if the spacing between the towers is 
> significant compared to the distance.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
> 




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Good rx RU6LA in Singapore:




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Good rx RU6LA in Singapore:<br>
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Dear Dmitry, Ed, Andrey and LF enthusiasts,

TNX for reports and captures of my test beacon in yesterday

I have repaired in past weekend the Big TX Ant

I assume today and the next days (Sep 18 19 20 21) to give a beacons for East from SS
in R6L (abt 15z) till abt 21-22z on freq 137778 in DFCW60

I'll have the RX ant (BOG) since Wednesday (Sep 19) and I'll be ready
for 2way QSO after 21z and also RX MF's beacons

Reports are welcome to LF list and to my alternative email RU6LA@bk.ru

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Hello LFers !

Not to miss tests ZL/UA of next W E . I gave in service the grabber!
you will be able to reach it by :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Hello LF,

I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
on 502.7kHz. I hear Mal G3KEV now calling CQ on 502.5 at the same time!

Regards,

John GM4SLV


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David Isele - VK6DI wrote:

> Hello Dmitry,
>
> Was that your carrier on 137775?  Should I shift the center frequency 
> of my grabber?

???  :(

>
> David, VK6DI.
>
Real  frequency  is +0.1 Hz

Dmitry

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Hi all readers,

This coming weekend ZM2E will operate from Quartz Hill, looking for DX QSOs. 
Arrangements are still being finalised as to possible participating 
stations, from USA westwards to European Russia.  Operation is for ZL 
Saturday and Sunday nights, 22 and 23 September.  ZL sunset is 0615z, 
sunrise 1815z.  Hopefully being near the equinox could lead to good DX.

ZM2E is likely to consistently use 0.2 Hz FSK with 137776.2 and 137776.0 Hz 
emission.  We will QSY fractional Hz only if we think we could get QRM from 
someone else.

If ZM2E is not engaged in a QSO in remaining time before ZL sunrise at 1815z 
we will change to FSK120 beacon mode, sending ZZZ... with timing of the 
first element of a Z being on the hour, and each ten minutes thereafter (but 
noting 2 minute latency using Argo with 120 second dot length).  We are 
interested in reception reports from any captures on 137.776 kHz.

With mixed feelings, dismantling of Quartz Hill HF antennas starts this 
weekend.  Antennas need to be removed to give clear site conditions for wind 
turbine development works.  The ZM2E activity this weekend is likely to be 
the last from existing site infrastructure.

73, Bob ZL2CA




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John RABSON wrote:
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals. 
 > The existing soundcard is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone).
> 
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this computer.  They say I can have two soundcards
 > installed, but whenever I am using one, the other must be inactive.
> 
> Has anyone any comments, please?

  Install a second sound card properly configured, use it with a program that can make use of two sound cards at the 
same time, take a screen capture, and contact again those HP "experts" asking for help because your PC is not behaving 
as they said it should.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> David VK6DI, after the ZL-test I'll in beacon mode till 2210z (SR in
> you QTH) on 137.778 in DFCW120 - I hope your grabber will ON
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
>   
Hello Ed,

Yes my grabber will be watching 137.778 from around 1000 UTC onwards.

Regards,

David, VK6DI.

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Hi David, LF,

I got the same impression here in NW UK as I was seeing full qrss call 
letters comming out of the noise quite regularly when I don't normally see 
anything until quite late so it could be due to seasonal changes as we head 
towards winter.

Also saw & heard G3XIZ DFCW CQ calls quite strong but was unable to respond.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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>
> Hello Hartmut
>
> Thanks for the reports.  I wonder if you have posted the  report for
> WD2XSH/17 onto the reports page at .www.500kc.com.  It may  encourage 
> someone further
> west to try an evening of QRS3 aimed at Europe.
>
> My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX 
> and
> 5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the
> house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. 
> However the
> antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity
> towards you due to 'reflection' ??
>
> 73
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 16/09/2007 08:24:19 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de
> writes:
>
>
> From  the UK I copied G3XIZ on 503.95 and G0MRF on 503.7. The signal
> from G0MRF  was a bit stonger than usual 22.00-23:00. Probably running
> higher  power.
>
> Captures and signal plots can be seen  here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:  JO52hp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 


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>>>> CHANGE OF  QSX -  3,580   MHz <<<<<

80 mtrs is a little full ... :-)

Graham




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> Cq cross band ,
>
> Running psk TX >  on 502.5 Khz ,
>
> -QSX- Psk31  RX >  on  80 Mtrs  3.579  MHz  (usb)
>
> -QSK- Please call if you copy the 502.5 Khz signal,  3.578 monitor running 
> in parallel with tx
>
> Tnx - Graham ..
>
> G0NBD .
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Hi Andy.

Interesting, have a look at
http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via the 
500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small antennas) it says 
"It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a radiation 
field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 x 
lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from your 
equation.

So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the CCIR 
curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is within 
the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I have been 
measuring.

73 Malcolm
(G3NZP)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
> to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
> and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
> This distance is usually taken to be
> 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.
>
> For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
> magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
> R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
> This value is usually taken as being
> lambda / (2.pi)
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> FOr LF field strength measurement
>
> On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> John.
>>
>> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew 
>> PA0SE
>> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we 
>> have
>> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is 
>> sufficiently
>> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>> 73 Malcolm.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>>
>>
>> > Malcolm,
>> >
>> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>> >
>> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
>> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
>> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power 
>> > and
>> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry 
>> > and
>> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains 
>> > valid
>> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
>> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
>> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>> >
>> > John Andrews, W1TAG
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 




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You seen WD2XKO on the air last night? Haven't heard from Dex all 
summer. Thought he was on vacation or something...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Very high noise level during the night. Copied RA3YO sending "Y" and
> UA4WPF sending "W" 17:30-18:45.
> 
> Due to the high noise level only poor copy of the 3 T/A signals
> WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS 23:30-04:30
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
> 
> 


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Hallo Finbar!
I saw signals on 501.4kHz this morning at 04:35Ut, I think it was your
beacon. I saw this signal clearly in QSSS3 mode on my PC, but I didn=B4t
hear it.
Thanks for your beaconing! For fareway stations, like me, it is good way
how to make experiments on 500kHz.
=20
Btw. How do you hear or see my beacon OK0EMW?
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I can make Jason run by launching it twice, then going into Task
Mnager and deleting the first instance of Jason.exe from the process
list - the second instance  appears, lower down..   After deleting the
first one, the prog bursts into life    I've sent the details to
Alberto..

Andy  G4JNT



On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio
> of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a
> few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc ,
> with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based
> spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the
> original .
>
> G ..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
> > I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> > appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> > and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> > an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> > based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
> >
> > I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> > OS  - which is a
> > Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
> >> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
> >>
> >> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
> >>
> >> G ..
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
> >> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
> >>
> >>
> >> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz
> >> > as
> >> > follows:
> >> >
> >> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
> >> >
> >> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
> >> >
> >> > Jason software can be found here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
> >> >
> >> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
> >> > night's test will be PSK31 /
> >> > PSKFEC31.
> >> >
> >> > Reception reports are appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> >> > 9/21/2007 14:02
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
> > 9/21/2007 14:02
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Hello David ,
It is : WD2XKO in EM95TG
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
> Vern, VE1VDM is now running his grabber on 137.  "KOX" is strong.

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Ge Ed

dl2hre wrote:

> Ge LF.
>  
> nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at 1630utc!

It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA

Dmitry
RA3YO

>  
> look there: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm
>  


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Ge Ed<br>
<br>
dl2hre wrote:<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">nice signal from RA3YO (Y) at
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It;s inverted "L" - RU6LA<br>
<br>
Dmitry<br>
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Ok Well, things look a bit 'black' at bham as well .. assume only G0MRF is s=
till sending , 24/7 ?
just a final check, 01-30 local , still no trace ,  here or bham . looks lik=
e a broken trace 503.7 on the GM screen,

not looked outside the 501-4 band .=20


Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris McCarthy=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:14 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Any Beacons sending at the moment ?


  Hello Graham,

  Here in Suffolk,
  I can hear=20
  G0MRF on 503.7=20
  and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.
  There is a DI2  further up heard.

  Chris G3XVL JO02NB



  On 17/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
    Any beacons sending at the moment ??

    21:50  local , seeing nothing ,

    quite low uniform noise level

    Only trace I have is  504

    Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK







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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok Well, things look a bit 'black' at bham=20=
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.. assume only G0MRF is still sending , 24/7 ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just a final check, 01-30 local , still no=20=
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,&nbsp; here or bham . looks like a broken trace 503.7 on the GM=20
screen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>not looked outside the 501-4 band . </FONT>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Any Beacons sendin=
g at=20
  the moment ?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham,<BR><BR>Here in Suffolk,<BR>I can hear <BR>G0M=
RF=20
  on 503.7 <BR>and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.<BR>There is a=20
  DI2&nbsp; further up heard.<BR><BR>Chris G3XVL JO02NB<BR><BR><BR>
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Still calling on 502.245 , beacons DI2AM  589, DI2AG 549 OK0EMW 559 to nil,=20=
v deep slow QSB,
now some QRSS 'MR' on about 503.5
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Yes, it has been on a few times on 503kHz this evening. Good audible copy in
KP03SD.

Quoting brian hodgson <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi All -
>
>   Just switched on the receiver and copied a short burst of "poetic" RTTY=20=
on
> about 503 kHz.
>
>   Decoder settigs were 45 Baud, 170 Hz shift. No callsign or other id -
> anyone else copy it?
>
>   Brian (G3YKB)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Good morning Mike, 

You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)

http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=longwave_transmitter_allouis

VY 73: Jeff F6CWN

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Subject: LF: 162.00kc EU station S-3 in EN35hj


> Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
> this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 
> Other stations coming in loud.
> 
> Mike
> WE0H
> 
>



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In a message dated 17/09/2007 21:07:07 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
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Hi  Graham,

> Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 
> 21:50   local , seeing nothing ,
> quite low uniform noise level
> Only  trace I have is  504
> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK

G0MRF  on 503.7 is visible here at the  moment.

73
Hartmut



Yes,  the field strength meter that sits on the kitchen windowsill  (and 
scares visitors when I tell them it measures electromagnetic radiation)  says the 
beacon is working as usual.
 
However, to see it you'll need to look in a narrow bandwidth. A full band  
view won't make it.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF



   

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There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
This distance is usually taken to be
2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.

For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
This value is usually taken as being
lambda / (2.pi)

Andy  G4JNT


FOr LF field strength measurement

On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> John.
>
> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew PA0SE
> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we have
> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is sufficiently
> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
>
> 73 Malcolm.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > Malcolm,
> >
> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >
> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power and
> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry and
> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains valid
> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
> > conditions.
> >
> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >
> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Hartmut,

I have a kilowatt tube amp to arrive Monday or Tuesday of this week. I 
hope you will see my signals this winter from the center of the USA.

73's,
Mike
WD2XSH/16

Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> The activity of the XSH group is low. The "WD2XSH/WE2XGR 600m
> Activity" report shows only 5 members of the XSH group active in
> September. Some of the members were never or only very few times
> active since they got the license on 600m.
> 73
> Hartmut


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I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would li=
ke to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is us=
ed for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only microphone)=
.=20

HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this compute=
r.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am using on=
e, the other must be inactive.

Has anyone any comments, please?

John F5VLF





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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia and America,
good copy of "YO" (RA3YO) , =E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA)
On the American continent good copy of WD2XNS, WD2XES and WD2XKO.
the captures of night are at :

http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





































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Hallo all!
There is very hard QRN this evening, but I can see QRSS3 and DFCW signal
from G3XIZ. I can=B4t hear this signal, but on the screen is quite fine.
QRSS and DFCW mode are very useful for longer distance.=20
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Blimey !
That is dramatic.   And there is a minute wobble up to about 10 times
the distance as well - which would probably give 2% - 3% error.

So, in a way, one could almost say the RSGB figure "is right" to go so
far out:-)

Andy


On 28/09/2007, Dave Brown <tractorb@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> It's instructive to look at plots of the variation of wave impedance
> with distance from the source.
> These plots (acknowledgements to John Middleton and Marconi Insts,
> "Engineers EMC Workbook")
>
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/zfreespace.jpg
>
> are for 47.7 MHz to scale the distance for lambda/2.pi to 1 metre, but
> the principle remains the same for any frequency. The selection of
> lambda/2.pi for the transition between near and far field regions
> makes much more sense when you see it plotted this way. Note the
> impedance scale is on the extreme right.
>
> DaveB, NZ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:50 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
> > distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
> > margin!
> >
> > Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Andy.
> >>
> >> Interesting, have a look at
> >> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via
> >> the
> >> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small
> >> antennas) it says
> >> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a
> >> radiation
> >> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10
> >> x
> >> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from
> >> your
> >> equation.
> >>
> >> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the
> >> CCIR
> >> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is
> >> within
> >> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I
> >> have been
> >> measuring.
> >>
> >> 73 Malcolm
> >> (G3NZP)
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >>
> >>
> >> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when
> >> > applied
> >> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE
> >> > antennas
> >> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be
> >> > planar.
> >> > This distance is usually taken to be
> >> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda =
> >> > wavelength.
> >> >
> >> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where
> >> > the
> >> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the
> >> > 1 /
> >> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be
> >> > insignificant.
> >> > This value is usually taken as being
> >> > lambda / (2.pi)
> >> >
> >> > Andy  G4JNT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > FOr LF field strength measurement
> >> >
> >> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> >> John.
> >> >>
> >> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of
> >> >> knew
> >> >> PA0SE
> >> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz
> >> >> coils, we
> >> >> have
> >> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
> >> >> sufficiently
> >> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the
> >> >> clarification.
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 Malcolm.
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> >> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Malcolm,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field.
> >> >> > The cal is
> >> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of
> >> >> > low power
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on
> >> >> > geometry
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field
> >> >> > remains
> >> >> > valid
> >> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under
> >> >> > far-field
> >> >> > conditions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a
> >> >> > simpler
> >> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> >> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Hello LFers !

My grabber are ON !
Frequency : 137773.5 => 137782.0
Antenna (K9AY) qtf 055
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> > be a first for me!?
> 
> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I 
> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy. 


Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!


I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!


I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
give it a try.

I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
time.

Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.

You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours. 

We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.

I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
(with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.

Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)

John GM4SLV IP90gg





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Chris, LF,

Both our signals showing on Shetland grabber during daylight  mid-afternoon 
!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


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Hi. Can anyone reassure me.

I am in the process of using PA0SE's most helpful article http://www.veron.n=
l/tech/lf/fsm/pa0se.htm to assist in calibrating my 'Eton E5' as a field str=
ength receiver for 500 kHz .

He says:  "Most field strength meters do not measure the electric but the ma=
gnetic component of the electromagnetic field. But this is no problem becaus=
e in the far field of the antenna (where we measure) there is a fixed relati=
on between the electric and the magnetic field components: E/H=3D120*pi ohm=
=3D377 ohm"=20
Then in the final paragraph of the 'Calibration' section he uses this same e=
quation to convert A/m to V/m in a near field.=20

Not that I would want to question an expert, but I guess the far field issue=
 is something to do with the distance it takes for a plain wave to form from=
 an antenna and presumably the equation remains valid, even between the "Hel=
mholtz coils" with the 377ohm relationship still applicable?

73 Malcolm (G3NZP, near Gatwick)

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I am in the process of using PA0SE's mos=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">He says:&nbsp;&nbsp;"Most field strength=
=20
meters do not measure the electric but the magnetic component of the=20
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<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Then in the final paragraph of the 'Calibr=
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Great evening.
QSOs so far with GI4DPE, GM4SLV and GI3PDN
Hearing great sig from GW3HXO, waiting to work him (not being able to net on=
 is a pain!)
Thanks also for FB reports Dave and Roelof
Other weaker sigs heard, will call cq agn 502.25   Xtal controlled after try=
ing to call HXO!
73s mark GM4ISM IO85AR

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great evening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>QSOs so far with GI4DPE, GM4SLV and=20
GI3PDN</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hearing great sig from GW3HXO, waiting to w=
ork him=20
(not being able to net on is a pain!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks also for FB reports Dave and=20
Roelof</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Other weaker sigs heard, will call cq agn=20
502.25&nbsp;&nbsp; Xtal controlled after trying to call HXO!</FONT></DIV>
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:06:33 +0100
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> Hello LF,
> 
> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
> on 502.7kHz. 

Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3

There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 - only
just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.

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Hello all,
After tuning antenna, my first reception from DI2AM.
Not present all time.
distance : 1500Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW 6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: [500] Beacon
>=20
> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
>=20
> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
>=20
>=20
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Hello LF,

After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must be
a first for me!?

I'm just about to try a FET transplant to save see if a BUZ24 will
survive a few more volts.

Hope to be back on within an few minutes,

John GM4SLV IP90gg


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Hearing the EU broadcast AM stations on 1750 meters like they were on 
this side of the pond. S-3 signal from the 162.00kc station right now. 
Other stations coming in loud.

Mike
WE0H


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Good morning,
Reading all the emails last night about good conditions i switched on my
receiver to see if i can copy DI2BO with his ERP of just 1.7mW.=20
Normally i receive only from Geri weak traces of single characters, but
last night (the 1st time) i copied his signal over longer periods with a
good signal. I was impressed.
Here a snapshot -> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DI2BO_260907_01.JPG (also
on the picture DI2AG and OK0EMW)


Vy73
Marco
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I may have missed this on the reflector, but I see the ARRL have the QEX  
article available on-line
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf) 
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/raab.pdf) 
 
There's also a DDS beacon article using the AD9851
 
_http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/09/qx09toc.pdf_ 
(http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/09/qx09toc.pdf) 
 
Sorry if this has been posted before. Nice opportunity to see QEX. -  
Although I still can't find the MRF150 version of the Granberg 300W amplifier I  was 
trying to locate.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF



   

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A  href=3D"http://www.arrl.org/qex/2007/07/qx07toc.pdf">http://www.arr=
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I don't normally hear those stations like that. They were armchair copy 
compared to just a heterodyne sound usually. Very wide open band last 
night. Would have been a good night for the ZL stations to have been on 
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Mike

k2ors wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> Yes that is what 2 million watts into a good antenna will do....
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
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Nice capture RU6LA DFCW 60 with mini whip antenna.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC756 PRO
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the reports!

TNX ZM2E's team for the very fine captures, but nill on ZM2E's freq ;-((
may be today...

QRN low (+6dB...+10dB above than in the best winter's night)

Yesterday I have removed the beverege from the European direction because
of agricultural works there

David VK6DI, after the ZL-test I'll in beacon mode till 2210z (SR in
you QTH) on 137.778 in DFCW120 - I hope your grabber will ON

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Dear LF enthusiasts,

New Zeland - no access in EU Russia on 136 now ;-((
... but I hope what's not for ever

QRN level was very high Sep 23
In second half of Sep 23 there was a rain (also 1 half of Sep 24) and
by evening there was a thunderstorm

I did not make a beacon till 2210z because of the thunderstorm

I agree with Bob ZL2CA - propagation was fairly good (and very long on
time), but unsufficiently good, as for example in Apr 2005 (ZLs recieved
G3AQC, RA3YO, YU7AR)

TNX ZM2E's team for the very fine captures agn and long-term useful
cooperation on LF !!

TNX to Laurence KL1X and David VK6DI for interesting and useful
grabbers in rare LF regions!

Also TNX to all for the reports and efforts!

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Ok ,

That looks about the best we can hope for .. I found  ME was ok , as long as 
you had a clean install .. a upgrade never seemed to  work ?

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> Andy, Graham
>
> Sorry but I'm not going to be any help sorting out the difficulty with 
> Jason since all machines here
> are running 98SE. I'm sure Alberto would be interested to hear about the 
> problem and want to resolve
> any issues. Not sure if he still monitors this list an e mail might be in 
> order.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>
>
>> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
>> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
>> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
>> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
>> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>>
>> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
>> OS  - which is a
>> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>>
>>
>> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> > How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind 
>> > ....
>> > wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>> >
>> > running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>> >
>> > G ..
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
>> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>> > Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>> >
>> >
>> > > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz 
>> > > as
>> > > follows:
>> > >
>> > > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>> > >
>> > > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>> > >
>> > > Jason software can be found here:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.weaksignals.com/
>> > >
>> > > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. 
>> > > Tomorrow
>> > > night's test will be PSK31 /
>> > > PSKFEC31.
>> > >
>> > > Reception reports are appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
>> > > 9/21/2007 14:02
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 
> 9/21/2007 14:02
>
> 




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Dear LF, Finbar,

GI4DPE booming in here peaking RST 589 on 501.318 kHz CW beacon mode at
1956utc

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England

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Hi Graham,

> Any beacons sending at the moment ?? 
> 21:50  local , seeing nothing ,
> quite low uniform noise level
> Only trace I have is  504
> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK
 
G0MRF on 503.7 is visible here at the moment.

73
Hartmut



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Todays HP's can run any software. They ship from the manufacturer with 
all kinds of crap software on them. Clean the hard drive and install a 
clean copy of Windoze or Linux and they work nice.

Anyone use the Popular Electronics magazine USB soundcard?

Mike
/16

Andy Talbot wrote:
> You can have as many cards as you like - try a USB one like the Edirol
> UA-1EX for good quality audio, or the Logitech headset for headphone /
> boom-mic.
> 
> Or do HP have some sort of corrupted operating systems that isn't
> properly windows compliant?  Back in the days of real DOS, HP machines
> were notorious for being "different"
> 
> Andy  G4JNT
> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt


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Hi Graham and John,

I have found SeqDownload from Nir Sofer very useful, and it is not=20
restricted to jpg's:

http://files.snapfiles.com/localdl834/seqdownload.zip (39 kB)

Kind regards
Markus, DF6NM

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Von: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Verschickt: Mo., 24. Sept. 2007, 20:44
Thema: LF: Wanted Software to 'Grab' ' Grabbers'


Wanted , software to 'Grab' 'Grabbers'=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I know windows tends to be a event driven process,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
But is there a prog , that works with windows , that will , download=20
and save the grabber website screens , or the Jpeg file if its=20
available ?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
You would have to give it the path and the time period , leave it and=20
come back to as many saved files as you like .. as long as you dident=20
fill the hard drive ..=C2=A0
=C2=A0
You could then look over the 'data' later on ... for example , if you=20
run a beacon over night a save every 15 mins would give a good idea of=20
the path .=C2=A0
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Any ideas etc ???=C2=A0
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Graham ..=C2=A0
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only somme traces of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hi LF

I think it's RU6LA traces:



Dmitry

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Hi LF<br>
<br>
I think it's RU6LA traces:<br>
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seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but 
even John was up and down,
I am running now on 503.000
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>


> Hi, John, LF,
>
> You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> detect any sign of Mark however.
>
> RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 27 September 2007 07:35
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>
>> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>>
>> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
>> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
>> > be a first for me!?
>>
>> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
>> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.
>
>
> Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!
>
>
> I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
> I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!
>
>
> I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
> one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
> give it a try.
>
> I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
> permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
> time.
>
> Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.
>
> You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
> in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
> had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
> the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
> It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.
>
> We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
> Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.
>
> I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
> (with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.
>
> Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)
>
> John GM4SLV IP90gg
>
>
>
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:27:38 EDT
G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

>  
> Hi all.
>  
> Certainly good tonight.   My 5mW visible on John's grabber at  900km+
>  
> 503.70
>  
> David   IO91TK


What a night!

First ever GM/GM, first ever GM/GW, 

GI3PDN much better than ever before...


If this is winter, bring it on!

John GM4SLV


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Hi LF,

I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in QRSS
scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows who it
is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.

There was a good visual aurora here at around 10:30 local time - gone
after 10 minutes but will keep checking as the night progresses. Don't
know what effect it will have on MF signals, if any.

Cheers,

John
Gm4SLV IP90gg


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Hello LF,

I can hear G3DXZ calling CQ on 503.1 at 08:30 UTC. Not sure of his
location.

Going out now to run in a half marathon otherwise I'd try calling.

Regards,

John GM4SLV


Grabber at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg



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Best way ,

just pug a 'good'  USB card into the pc ,  will show up as a usb-device and 
have the advantage of being on the end of a long wire .which you can wrap 
round a ferrite block .

Fo the 'tx' gang,  when your 'earth rf level' exceeds the safe level for the 
computing equipment ...chances are , you will only take out the usb card .. 
and not the motherboard .. use a pci/usb card for added feel good factor ...

I still use my  intel p111  1.1 Ghz  motherboard to  this day ... but with a 
pci sound card  :-( ....

Graham ..

G0NBD.




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> Hi John,
>
> I would expect a second sound card to work ok as XP will certainly support 
> 2 cards to run simultaniously if not more. Cards cost so little it's not a 
> lot to spend if doesn't work. You can of course use the mic input on the 
> exsisting card but it will require some input attenuation.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
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> Subject: LF: A second soundcard
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>
> I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would 
> like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard 
> is used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only 
> microphone).
>
> HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this 
> computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am 
> using one, the other must be inactive.
>
> Has anyone any comments, please?
>
> John F5VLF
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> 




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Hi David, LF,

Having looked at the Birmingham grabber & seeing your beacon there I have 
put my Rx on your frequency from about 1430utc & using SpecLab in QRSS30 
mode I have been watching a faint signal there. It is not possible to get a 
positive ID in QRSS30 but the signal is now increasing in strength a little 
& from about 1500utc has become just visible in QRSS10 mode. If I get an ID 
I will send a positive report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


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LF, Mark,

Captured GM4ISM QRSS a little while ago, unfortunately almost lost under a 
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It's instructive to look at plots of the variation of wave impedance 
with distance from the source.
These plots (acknowledgements to John Middleton and Marconi Insts, 
"Engineers EMC Workbook")

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/zfreespace.jpg

are for 47.7 MHz to scale the distance for lambda/2.pi to 1 metre, but 
the principle remains the same for any frequency. The selection of 
lambda/2.pi for the transition between near and far field regions 
makes much more sense when you see it plotted this way. Note the 
impedance scale is on the extreme right.

DaveB, NZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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> Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
> distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
> margin!
>
> Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Hi Andy.
>>
>> Interesting, have a look at
>> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via 
>> the
>> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small 
>> antennas) it says
>> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a 
>> radiation
>> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 
>> x
>> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from 
>> your
>> equation.
>>
>> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the 
>> CCIR
>> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is 
>> within
>> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I 
>> have been
>> measuring.
>>
>> 73 Malcolm
>> (G3NZP)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>>
>>
>> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when 
>> > applied
>> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE 
>> > antennas
>> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be 
>> > planar.
>> > This distance is usually taken to be
>> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = 
>> > wavelength.
>> >
>> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where 
>> > the
>> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 
>> > 1 /
>> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be 
>> > insignificant.
>> > This value is usually taken as being
>> > lambda / (2.pi)
>> >
>> > Andy  G4JNT
>> >
>> >
>> > FOr LF field strength measurement
>> >
>> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> John.
>> >>
>> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of 
>> >> knew
>> >> PA0SE
>> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz 
>> >> coils, we
>> >> have
>> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
>> >> sufficiently
>> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the 
>> >> clarification.
>> >>
>> >> 73 Malcolm.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
>> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Malcolm,
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and 
>> >> > the
>> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. 
>> >> > The cal is
>> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of 
>> >> > low power
>> >> > and
>> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on 
>> >> > geometry
>> >> > and
>> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field 
>> >> > remains
>> >> > valid
>> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under 
>> >> > far-field
>> >> > conditions.
>> >> >
>> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a 
>> >> > simpler
>> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
>> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello Dmitry,

Yes that seems possible.  The signal faded rapidly after the gray line 
moved offshore at my end.

The grabber will continue again on 137 Saturday & Sunday night,

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
________________________

Dmitry wrote:
> Hi LF
>
> I think it's RU6LA traces:
>
> Dmitry
VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz as follows:

2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)

0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)

Jason software can be found here:

http://www.weaksignals.com/

Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow night's test will be PSK31 /
PSKFEC31.

Reception reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in PSK31 and PSKFEC31 (forward error correction) tonight on 508.5 kHz
as follows:

2300 - 0000Z PSK31

0000 - 0100Z PSKFEC31

0100 - 0200Z PSK31

0200 - 0300Z PSKFEC31

Power level will initially be 100 watts but may increase to 400 watts and will be noted in the
message.

Suggest Spectrum Lab:

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html

 digimode terminal as a suitable decoder for PSK31, however, it does not have FEC capability at
present.

Suggest MultiPSK:

http://f6cte.free.fr/

as a decoder for both modes. One note - this software decoder has been known to go on 'walkabout'
with loss of received signal and may need to be restarted if this occurs.

As usual all reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





































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Subject: LF: T/A [137] What is "Intruder"
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Hello Hall ,

What is "intruder" transmission !

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:02:24 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW
> attached.


Gary, LF,

Thanks for the nice capture. I thought I'd put a signal on the band for
a while as it looked quiet and I had some chores to do that meant I
couldn't devote time to QSOs. In these circumstances I figure a singal
is at least useful to someone, although of course it spoils my own
grabber!

I see I'm making it to the Birmingham grabber too.

I might come out of beacon mode in a while and look for some QSOs.

Worked G3DXZ at 0840 UTC and GI4DPE at 1200 UTC - broad daylight DX! I
also heard G3UNT calling CQ and despite repeatedly answering him he
failed to hear me, again!

Things are looking up though, as autumn gets going. The night-time QRN
still a problem though.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Clousta, Shetland


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Reception conditions were fairly quiet at Quartz Hill last night. We capture=
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 There were also what appeared to be good signals from Ed RU6LA at 1700utc a=
nd 1800utc, our sunrise, although the signal was 0.1Hz lower than expected.=20=
We will follow the same scedule tonight.

Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA

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John

Brian has said to me during QSOs that he has a high urban noise level. Taken 
my quarter wave down for the time being and re-instated my 160m inv. 'L' (so 
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Subject: LF: 502.3 - G3UNT and G3XIZ


> LF, Chris, Brian
>
>
> I've heard some of the QSO between G3UNT and G3XIZ - needed some AF
> filtering and a bit of extra pre-amplification but copy of G3UNT was
> 439 and G3XIZ 2/3 2 9 on a quiet band.
>
> I was using the weak QSO to do some comparative tests between my normal
> 500kHz RX - AR7030 - and my new IC-718. Even with the stock, wide, SSB
> filter in the 718 I could copy just as well on both RXs - the 10Hz AF
> filter somewhat levelling the playing field since the 7030 has a 300Hz
> Collins CW filter.
>
> I called G3UNT several times after he signed with Chris, but once again
> failed to raise him.
>
> G3UNT is alwas a readable signal in daytime up here but despite many,
> many relies to his CQ calls I've never had any joy. I presume I'm
> being spoiled by my low daytime noise floor?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 



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Ga LF.

just cpy the dfcw120 signal from Ed RU6LA (L).

see: http://www.mydarc.de/dl2hre/hre_grab.htm

GL Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ga LF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just cpy the&nbsp;dfcw120 signal from Ed RU=
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Yes, it would be "certainly true" that 10 times the recognised
distance is in the far field. It certainly provides a huge safety
margin!

Most texts use 2.pi, although I did once see 4.pi quoted.

Andy  G4JNT


On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi Andy.
>
> Interesting, have a look at
> http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/radiation_theory.htm where via the
> 500kHz section (so presumably meant for electrically small antennas) it says
> "It is generally well known that the far-field is predominantly a radiation
> field; this is certainly true when the distance is greater then 10 x
> lambda/2pi." So there seems to be a factor of 10 difference from your
> equation.
>
> So using the RSGB paper, far field equates to 955 metres. Since the CCIR
> curves for LF/MF propagation give 3mV/m at 1km for 100mW erp and is within
> the distance ground conductivity has much effect, that's where I have been
> measuring.
>
> 73 Malcolm
> (G3NZP)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
>
>
> > There appear to be two meanings to the term "far field" when applied
> > to antennas.   One is usually reserved for electrically LARGE antennas
> > and is the point where the wavefront can be considered to be planar.
> > This distance is usually taken to be
> > 2.D^2/lambda, where D = largest antenna dimension and lambda = wavelength.
> >
> > For electrically small antennas, the "far field" is beyond where the
> > magnetic and electric components (which roll off faster than the 1 /
> > R^2 of the radiation field) can be considered to be insignificant.
> > This value is usually taken as being
> > lambda / (2.pi)
> >
> > Andy  G4JNT
> >
> >
> > FOr LF field strength measurement
> >
> > On 28/09/2007, Malcolm Harman <malcolm.fr263@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> John.
> >>
> >> Fascinating stuff and all your are papers duly saved. I sort of knew
> >> PA0SE
> >> must be right and while E/H = 377 ohms between the Helmholtz coils, we
> >> have
> >> to go to the far field of an antenna before a "plane" wave is
> >> sufficiently
> >> well formed and once again E/H = 377 ohms. Thanks for the clarification.
> >>
> >> 73 Malcolm.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> >> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: LF: A question of calibration
> >>
> >>
> >> > Malcolm,
> >> >
> >> >> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.
> >> >
> >> > Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the
> >> > calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is
> >> > being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power
> >> > and
> >> > take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry
> >> > and
> >> > current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains
> >> > valid
> >> > as long as you agree to take your real measurements under far-field
> >> > conditions.
> >> >
> >> > A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler
> >> > arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
> >> > http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm
> >> >
> >> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Mine too -

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5

See also VE1VDM Grabber -

http://users.eastlink.ca/%7Eve1vdm/argocaptures/grabber.htm

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
__________________________________________

Jean-Pierre Mr wrote:
> Hello LFers !
>
> My grabber are ON !
> Frequency : 137773.5 => 137782.0
> Antenna (K9AY) qtf 055
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber3.htm
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


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Hi Ed,

Nominally 138.9kHz with +/-170Hz FSK.  It used to be bang 
on.  I'll check to see if the upper frequency of the pair 
has moved correspondingly, too.

http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html

is DK8KW's site, and is probably the best resource on DCF-39.

         Cheers,

                 Steve



Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> 23-09-2007, 3:17 MSK(+3 GMT), Steve Dove wrote:
> SD> That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small
> SD> lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.
> 
> TNX Steve!
> I very much not frequently be for 136 last years(2005-07) and probably
> did not read this information in LF group
> What is exact freq DCF39 ?  - I have not found any info on it
> on any wwws (??)
> 
> My main freqs for calibration are 137.7750 or 137.7500 (russians
> QRM-line)
> 
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Laurence,

With some imagination, that does look like an S on the left and most of 
an X on the right. The frequencies are certainly right. Was the clock 
time (off as it may be) supposed to be UTC?

Interesting!

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Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=
 freqs window in my absence.
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http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has=20=
the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay
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I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
ult!" - or something like that.
=20
Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage=20



> From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,>=20=
> I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my=
 mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as u=
nder spring tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX=
9BS - "X"> ZM2E - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A)=
 with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136=
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still run=
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&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the=20=
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I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR=
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&gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date=
: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:15:31 +0400<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had technical proble=
ms with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mistake - freq w=
as abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as well as unde=
r spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt; UA4WPF - "W"=
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Hi all.
 
Certainly good tonight.   My 5mW visible on John's grabber at  900km+
 
503.70
 
David   IO91TK
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 25/09/2007 20:55:44 GMT Standard Time,  
ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:

Hi,  John, LF
 
GM4SLV heard calling GM4ISM on 502.244 kHz at  2045utc. GM4SLV is RST 559, 
which is the strongest that I have heard you up to  now. Plenty of deep QSB, 
however.
Condx must be good tonight!
 
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM  nr Windsor, SE England.



 



   

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Copied GM4SLV beacon aural-CW Q3 at 19.08UTC with fast QSB

BR

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Copied WD2XSH/17 on 505.256 kHz in QRSS3 00:35-01:57. G0MRF was
visible the whole night on 503.7 kHz.

Nothing copied of the PSK31 transmission from XGR/2 last night. After
I had a look on the multipsk software I decided not to use this
software, so not tried reception of the PSKFEC31 transmission.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hartmut
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Hi, Mark.

I can hear you FB on 503.000 now. I must have been listening on the wrong
frequency earlier!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
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Subject: LF: Re: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>


seems condx not stable, I was on Dave's grabber fb before and after, but
even John was up and down,
I am running now on 503.000
Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber <GM4SLV>


> Hi, John, LF,
>
> You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
> detect any sign of Mark however.
>
> RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>




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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Mark wrote:

> Gents, I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV 
> this evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna) 
> I will announce details here. 
> Regards Mark GM4ISM IO85AR 


Lf, Mark,

At last, another GM! For most G stations you'll be a lot easier to work 
than I am, as you're over 300 miles nearer England than me! 

Good luck and hope to see you on this evening for the first GM - GM 
500kHz QSO.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
IP90gg


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Gents,
I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this evening=
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WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting tonight on 508.5 kHz according to the following schedule:

0000 - 0020Z  PSK31

0020 - 0040Z  PSKFEC31

0040 - 0100Z  QPSK31

0100 - 0120Z  PSK31

0120 - 0140Z  PSKFEC31

0140 - 0200Z  QPSK31

Since it appears that there will be no shortage of static tonight the power level will be 100 watts.
Reports are appreciated.

Suggest MultiPSK as the decoder which can be down loaded here:

http://f6cte.free.fr/

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




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Hi Ed,

That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small 
lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.

         73,

                 Steve


http://www.w3eee.com

Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Dear LF enthusiasts,
> 
> yesterday has found out what the space freq of DCF39 was 138830.5 !
> it is my mistake?
> 
> 73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru


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Hello Graham,

Here in Suffolk,
I can hear
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and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.
There is a DI2  further up heard.

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On 17/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> Any beacons sending at the moment ??
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> 21:50  local , seeing nothing ,
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> quite low uniform noise level
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> Only trace I have is  504
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> Graham  , G0NBD , IO 83 LK
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Hello Graham,<br><br>Here in Suffolk,<br>I can hear <br>G0MRF on 503.7 <br>and I did see a DFCW transmission earlier.<br>There is a DI2&nbsp; further up heard.<br><br>Chris G3XVL JO02NB<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 17/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Graham</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Any beacons sending at the moment ??<br><br>21:50&nbsp;&nbsp;local , seeing nothing ,<br><br>quite low uniform noise level<br><br>Only trace I have is&nbsp;&nbsp;504<br><br>Graham&nbsp;&nbsp;, G0NBD , IO 83 LK<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello Dmitry,

Was that your carrier on 137775?  Should I shift the center frequency of 
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David, VK6DI.




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> My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120  21/09 
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> I don't see graber after 21:45 utc
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Hello Dmitry,<br>
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Was that your carrier on 137775?&nbsp; Should I shift the center frequency
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David, VK6DI.<br>
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Dmitry wrote:
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My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120&nbsp; 21/09
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Hi Steve,

23-09-2007, 3:17 MSK(+3 GMT), Steve Dove wrote:
SD> That's about right;  it's moved up in a number of small
SD> lurches from almost exactly 830 over the last six months or so.

TNX Steve!
I very much not frequently be for 136 last years(2005-07) and probably
did not read this information in LF group
What is exact freq DCF39 ?  - I have not found any info on it
on any wwws (??)

My main freqs for calibration are 137.7750 or 137.7500 (russians
QRM-line)

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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 Sorry, the wrong list. Should go to the NDB list.

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 Hartmut

> The new ones heard the past days:

> 02.09.2007  08:45  321  SP   DNK   Vojens / Skrydstrup
> 17.09.2007  02:48  332  YFM  CAN   La Grande 4
> 17.09.2007  02:46  334  AR   ISL   Akureyi
> 17.09.2007  04:26  343  TST  ENG   Redhill
> 17.09.2007  04:18  390  VP   CAN   Kuujjuaq / Kujack

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Hello Hall ,

What is " L " transmission !

on ~137.7725

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht










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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:44:10 +0100
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> Finbar,
> Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
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> 73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)


Also a nice signal here in Shetland at 0800 UTC

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Hello LFers !

The night is not yet still there, and the signal of Ed is very strong in this moment!

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Laurence,
> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage 

  Wasilla? Palmer? 

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From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test 
> freqs window in my absence.
>  
> http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has the 
> 137.775/781 (I think) overlay
>  
> I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as 
> "Adult!" - or something like that.
>  
> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 
> 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,> > I 
> had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my mistake 
> - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as under spring 
> tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX9BS - "X"> ZM2E 
> - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W 
> Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try to improve RF ground 
> and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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&nbsp;<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the=20=
DCF 39 composite link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Ad=
ult!" - or something like that.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR=
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&gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date=
: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:15:31 +0400<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had technical proble=
ms with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mistake - freq w=
as abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as well as unde=
r spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt; UA4WPF - "W"=
<BR>&gt; UA0AET - "U"<BR>&gt; RX9BS - "X"<BR>&gt; ZM2E - "Z"<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt=
; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W Output -=
 I believe that ground very dry now<BR>&gt; Today I'll try to improve RF gro=
und and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.7=
3.ru<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><br /><hr />Make your little one a shining star! <a hre=
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Hi Mark, LF,

I just caught the end of your QSO with Finbar. Your signals were peaking RST
339 on 502.24-ish (not on the same freq as Finbar...tricky!). You were also
showing up on the G3YXM grabber.

Congratulations on making it down this far south!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England.
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mark
  Sent: 25 September 2007 12:50
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  Gents,
  I have received my NOV this morning, so with luck I will be QRV this
evening (so long as the wind is low enough to raise the antenna)
  I will announce details here.
  Regards
  Mark GM4ISM IO85AR
  www.dc2light.co.uk

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Mark, LF,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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5092007>Congratulations on making it down this far=20
south!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Ge Ed, LF.

just(1753utc) captured RU6LA in qrss3 on 137.70KHz.

73 Ed DL2HRE in JO51TQ

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 now peaking RST 549 QSB

On 23/09/2007, Chris McCarthy <chris.decibel@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Finbar,
> Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
> (400 miles)
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> 73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)
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&nbsp;now peaking RST 549 QSB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 23/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Chris McCarthy</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:chris.decibel@googlemail.com">chris.decibel@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Finbar,<br>Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about&nbsp; RST 439<br>(400 miles)<br><br>
<br>73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br>
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Wish I was there to see it myself Dmitry and not in KL7..but glad its runnin=
g ok by itself. Antennae is the eprobe and RX is R75.
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This is a new country for me from 9V1 - only two so far...
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Vy 73 and gud luck with the tests - Im hoping to have some form of reception=
 from up here but I have serious issues with PC battery power.
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Laurence KL1X40F Wasilla BP51 AK Alaska


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acksheep.orgSubject: Re: LF: UA-beacons on 137
Good rx RU6LA in Singapore:http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpgDmitry
_________________________________________________________________
Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Caf=
=E9.
http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline=3D

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Wish I was there to see it myself Dmitry and not i=
n KL7..but glad its running ok by itself. Antennae is the eprobe and RX is R=
75.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This is a new country for me from 9V1 - only two so far...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Vy 73 and gud luck with the tests - Im hoping to have some form of reception=
 from up here but I have serious issues with PC battery power.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X<BR>40F Wasilla BP51 AK Alaska<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Andy,

Im sure ive had it running in the past, I used to  use the original versio 
of stream, now that suffers from  locking and even digipan has fallen over a 
few times .. I'm  afraid it looking like its time to  have a dual boot pc , 
with something like windows ME as the second system , Ive a pc based 
spectrum analyser that wont run on anything higher than windows  95 , the 
original .

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode


> I've just downloaded Jason .99 and can't get it to run at all.  It
> appears to do nothing when launched, but is being loaded into memory
> and I can see it in Task Manager, Processes.   But it won't appear as
> an application.  Whilst in memory as a Process some other sound card
> based software packages won't run until the process is closed.
>
> I haven't tried earlier versions of Jason on this particular machine /
> OS  - which is a
> Dell 2.4G with XP-Pro.
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
>
> On 22/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> How do  you find Jason ?, it locks on my pc which is a bit of a bind ....
>> wont got to tx or to  standby from rx ..
>>
>> running intel p4 3ghz and xp-pro fully upto date
>>
>> G ..
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:33 PM
>> Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 in Jason mode
>>
>>
>> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Jason mode this evening on 508.5 kHz 
>> > as
>> > follows:
>> >
>> > 2300 - 0100Z  Normal speed (non turbo)
>> >
>> > 0100 - 0200Z  Fast speed (non turbo)
>> >
>> > Jason software can be found here:
>> >
>> > http://www.weaksignals.com/
>> >
>> > Rather than mixing modes only one mode will be run per night. Tomorrow
>> > night's test will be PSK31 /
>> > PSKFEC31.
>> >
>> > Reception reports are appreciated.
>> >
>> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date:
>> > 9/21/2007 14:02
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 
> 9/21/2007 14:02
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Hello Finbar, etc.

Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.
There is some very fast QSB on all signals.
GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and G3XVL is even a few dB stron=
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This is measured in a 24 Hz wide bandwidth.
Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot to watch the meter.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Finbar, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and no=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is some very fast QSB on all=20
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:26:31 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Still calling on 502.245 , beacons DI2AM  589, DI2AG 549 OK0EMW 559
> to nil, v deep slow QSB, now some QRSS 'MR' on about 503.5
> good condx tonight
> Mark GM4ISM

Hello Mark, LF

Yes I can hear you calling CQ, and Finbar's slow CW beacon.

The "MR" is likely to be G0MRF on 503.7. He keeps fading up on my
grabber too.

Goodnight for now,

Must QRT

John GM4SLV

 


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LF, Chris, Brian


I've heard some of the QSO between G3UNT and G3XIZ - needed some AF
filtering and a bit of extra pre-amplification but copy of G3UNT was
439 and G3XIZ 2/3 2 9 on a quiet band.

I was using the weak QSO to do some comparative tests between my normal
500kHz RX - AR7030 - and my new IC-718. Even with the stock, wide, SSB
filter in the 718 I could copy just as well on both RXs - the 10Hz AF
filter somewhat levelling the playing field since the 7030 has a 300Hz
Collins CW filter.

I called G3UNT several times after he signed with Chris, but once again
failed to raise him.

G3UNT is alwas a readable signal in daytime up here but despite many,
many relies to his CQ calls I've never had any joy. I presume I'm
being spoiled by my low daytime noise floor?

Regards,

John


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fresh picture from UA-Beacons, captured 1816utc.
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Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on 505.259 kHz 00:26-02:01. There was a
very faint trace of WD2XSH/6 about 03:45-03:50 on 505.266 kHz.

Good signals from G3XIZ, G3XVL and G0MRF beaconing on 503 kHz in
QRSS3.

Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Dmitry wrote:

> Hi David
>
> My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz 

DFCW240  21/09 21:45-21:55 "Y"

> I don't see graber after 21:45 utc
>
> Dmitry
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> David Isele - VK6DI wrote:
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My second reception
OK0EMW
But not present all time.
1300Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW 6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: [500] Beacon
>=20
> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
>=20
> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20

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Hi Mike=20

Please get a look for example at http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/LWBC.pd=
f for a quite up-to-date list of LW broadcast transmitters.

73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

> -----Message d'origine-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de WE0H
> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 20 septembre 2007 09:09
> =C0 : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Objet : Re: LF: Re: 162.00kc EU station S-3 in EN35hj
>=20
>=20
> Hello Jeff,
>=20
> Wow lots of power. I can still hear a little carrier right=20
> now. 189kc is=20
> still strong and some other weak signals around 172kc?
>=20
> Very good bad conditions this morning.
> Mike
> WE0H
>=20
> F6CWN wrote:
> > Good morning Mike,
> > You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
> > 2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)
> >=20
> > http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
> > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
> > http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=3Dlongwave_transmitter_allouis
> >=20
> > VY 73: Jeff F6CWN
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Hi David,

> I wonder if you have posted the report for WD2XSH/17 onto the
> reports page at .www.500kc.com.

no I haven't, but I posted a copy of the mail to the 600m group.

> It may encourage someone further > west to try an evening of QRS3
> aimed at Europe.

The activity of the XSH group is low. The "WD2XSH/WE2XGR 600m
Activity" report shows only 5 members of the XSH group active in
September. Some of the members were never or only very few times
active since they got the license on 600m.
I hope there will be more activity from the new XGR license.

> My beacon was the same as usual last night.  7 Watts PEP out of the TX  and 
> 5mW radiated.  Only difference now is that as we in the  autumn season the 
> house wall becomes damp overnight and detunes the  antenna slightly. However the 
> antenna is on the Eastern wall of the house, so  perhapa some directivity 
> towards you due to 'reflection' ??

In comparison with the rest of the night the signal level 22:15-22:35
was very stable on a high level.

73
Hartmut



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Wasilla Fish hook Warren - looking at a house on a lake up here....


From: k2ors@comcast.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.orgCC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comDate: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:32:49 +=
0000Subject: RE: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18Laurence,> Laurence KL1X/Mobile Toda=
y about 50 miles North of Anchorage    Wasilla? Palmer?  --73 Warren K2ORSWD=
2XGJ     136-140kHzWD2XSH/23 505-510kHzWE2XEB/2   160-189kHzWE2XGR/1 505-515=
kHz FN42hihttp://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm  -------------- Original message -=
---------------------From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>> E=
d - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=20=
> freqs window in my absence.>  > http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or th=
e DCF 39 composite link which has the > 137.775/781 (I think) overlay>  > I=20=
cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as > "Ad=
ult!" - or something like that.>  > Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 mile=
s North of Anchorage > > > > > From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 > 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test S=
ep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,> > I > had technical problems with DFCW and co=
nsequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my mistake > - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 13=
7.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as under spring > tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO=20=
- "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX9BS - "X"> ZM2E > - "Z"> > The current=20=
in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W > Output - I believe t=
hat ground very dry now> Today I'll try to improve RF ground > and to TX on=20=
137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru> > _______________________=
__________________________________________> Capture your memories in an onli=
ne journal!> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus =20
--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: RE: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18Date: Wed, 19 Se=
p 2007 15:27:45 +0000

Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the proposed  test=
 freqs window in my absence. http://kl1x.com and select slinger 2 or the DCF=
 39 composite link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay I cant get it=
 from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Adult!" - or so=
mething like that. Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchor=
age=20

> From: ru6la@bk.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 10:15:31 +0400> Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18> > Dear LF enthusiasts,>=20=
> I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60> SRI - my=
 mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((> > TX "L" - as well as u=
nder spring tests:> RU6LA - "L"> RA3YO - "Y"> UA4WPF - "W"> UA0AET - "U"> RX=
9BS - "X"> ZM2E - "Z"> > The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A)=
 with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now> Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60> > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136=
.73.ru>=20

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><BR>Wasilla Fish hook Warren - looking at a house=20=
on a lake up here....<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<HR id=3DstopSpelling>
From: k2ors@comcast.net<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org<BR>CC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 200=
7 15:32:49 +0000<BR>Subject: RE: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18<BR><BR><PRE>Laurenc=
e,<BR>&gt; Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR>=
 <BR>  Wasilla? Palmer? <BR> <BR>--<BR>73 Warren K2ORS<BR>WD2XGJ     136-140=
kHz<BR>WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz<BR>WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz<BR>WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz<=
BR> <BR>FN42hi<BR><A href=3D"http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm" target=3D_blan=
k>http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm</A><BR> <BR> -------------- Original messa=
ge ----------------------<BR>From: Laurence KL1X &lt;hellozerohellozero@hotm=
ail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running i=
n the proposed  test <BR>&gt; freqs window in my absence.<BR>&gt;  <BR>&gt;=20=
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/" target=3D_blank>http://kl1x.com</A> and select=20=
slinger 2 or the DCF 39 composite link which has the <BR>&gt; 137.775/781 (I=
 think) overlay<BR>&gt;  <BR>&gt; I cant get it from here in Alaska and the=20=
local ISP has rated my site as <BR>&gt; "Adult!" - or something like that.<B=
R>&gt;  <BR>&gt; Laurence KL1X/Mobile Today about 50 miles North of Anchorag=
e <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru&gt; To: rsgb_lf=
_group@blacksheep.org&gt; Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 <BR>&gt; 10:15:31 +0400&gt;=
 Subject: LF: RU6LA's test Sep 18&gt; &gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,&gt; &gt; I <=
BR>&gt; had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60&gt; S=
RI - my mistake <BR>&gt; - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((&gt; &gt;=
 TX "L" - as well as under spring <BR>&gt; tests:&gt; RU6LA - "L"&gt; RA3YO=20=
- "Y"&gt; UA4WPF - "W"&gt; UA0AET - "U"&gt; RX9BS - "X"&gt; ZM2E <BR>&gt; -=20=
"Z"&gt; &gt; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 10=
0W <BR>&gt; Output - I believe that ground very dry now&gt; Today I'll try t=
o improve RF ground <BR>&gt; and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60&gt; &gt; 73! Ed R=
U6LA <A href=3D"http://136.73.ru/" target=3D_blank>http://136.73.ru</A>&gt;=20=
<BR>&gt; _________________________________________________________________<B=
R>&gt; Capture your memories in an online journal!<BR>&gt; <A href=3D"http:/=
/www.reallivemoms.com/?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&amp;loc=3Dus" target=3D_blank>http:/=
/www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&amp;loc=3Dus</A><BR> <BR> <BR></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<BR>From: hellozerohellozero@hot=
mail.com<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Subject: RE: LF: RU6LA's tes=
t Sep 18<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:27:45 +0000<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR><BR>Ed - looks like the Singapore grabber is still running in the propos=
ed&nbsp; test freqs window in my absence.<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR><A href=3D"ht=
tp://kl1x.com/">http://kl1x.com</A> and select slinger 2 or the DCF 39 compo=
site link which has the 137.775/781 (I think) overlay<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>I=
 cant get it from here in Alaska and the local ISP has rated my site as "Adu=
lt!" - or something like that.<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>Laurence KL1X/Mobile <BR=
>Today about 50 miles North of Anchorage <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<HR id=3DstopSpelling>
<BR><BR><BR>&gt; From: ru6la@bk.ru<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<=
BR>&gt; Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:15:31 +0400<BR>&gt; Subject: LF: RU6LA's t=
est Sep 18<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear LF enthusiasts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had tech=
nical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60<BR>&gt; SRI - my mist=
ake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TX "L" - as=20=
well as under spring tests:<BR>&gt; RU6LA - "L"<BR>&gt; RA3YO - "Y"<BR>&gt;=20=
UA4WPF - "W"<BR>&gt; UA0AET - "U"<BR>&gt; RX9BS - "X"<BR>&gt; ZM2E - "Z"<BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 1=
00W Output - I believe that ground very dry now<BR>&gt; Today I'll try to im=
prove RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73! Ed RU6LA=20=
http://136.73.ru<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:56:24 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Lots of stations beaconing tonight, GM4SLV is 539 'fast' CW G0NBD and
> of course GI4DPE. I will call cw normal speed at 23:00z on 503.00
> Can see myself on Bham Grabber.. a great confidence boost HI. Tnx
> also to Gary 4 earlier report 73s
> Mark GM4ISM


I was just running the beacon for a while before bed. No time to play
but thought it might be useful for others. I see it quite nicely on
Dave's grabber.

Cheers and goodnight,

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:38:08 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> GM4SLV CW beacon audible here RST 519. Although not moving S meter
> audibly S1 with 100 Hz audio filter.
> 
> 73
> 

Thanks Gary for the report, I put the CW beacon on while I was doing
other things around the house/shack, testing a new Calss-E MOSFET PA.

Will turn it off soon and look for QSOs

John
GM4SLV


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This is the text of a message I sent earlier, but has not appeared on the 
reflector, maybe because of attached file size.

73, Bob

Hi all readers,

Thanks to all who tried to receive ZM2E.  It seems that VK6 is our furthest 
reception report so far.  We had fairly good LF DX last night, receiving 
something from every R6L beacon.  See the attached Argo graphic, timed at 
1812z, a few minutes before ZL sunrise.  It shows beacon IDs of L, A and W, 
and frequency included.  We could copy L at 30 second dot length (we had two 
receivers and three PC, so had multiple sessions of Argo running, for 
bandwidth and dot length options).

ZM2E average QRN was fairly low all weekend, and we used noise blanking to 
reduce impact of static bursts.  At ZL sunrise we got readability 3 by ear 
for EU AM broadcast stations on 153 and 171 kHz.  Also plenty of galloping 
horses for SSB reception on 100 kHz. All reception via the wire antenna 
tuned for 137 kHz.

ZM2E operators were Mike ZL4OL, David ZL4TAC and Bob ZL2CA.

73, Bob ZL2CA 




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Hello Ed and others,

This weekend I plan to run a grabber on 137.

Details can be found on my web site as shown below.  I have no 
difficulty seeing NDB activity from ZL and from Norfolk Island.  
Hopefully if conditions are favorable you should be able to view at 
least the ZM2E signal as seen from Western Australia.

Good luck with your tests!

Regards,

David, VK6DI, OF88cd.

VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5


Ed Lesnichy wrote:
> Dear LF enthusiasts,
>
> TNX by all for the impressing reports ...


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Hi John, LF,

There are times when your signal goes momentarily into the noise, I am 
running a slow morse tape in SpecLab which over a period of time should show 
the QSB repititions, it may be a useful excersise.

Cheers, Gary.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:02:24 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John, LF,
>>
>> CW beacon is fully audible most of the time now, capture of CW
>> attached.
>
>
> Gary, LF,
>
> Thanks for the nice capture. I thought I'd put a signal on the band for
> a while as it looked quiet and I had some chores to do that meant I
> couldn't devote time to QSOs. In these circumstances I figure a singal
> is at least useful to someone, although of course it spoils my own
> grabber!
>
> I see I'm making it to the Birmingham grabber too.
>
> I might come out of beacon mode in a while and look for some QSOs.
>
> Worked G3DXZ at 0840 UTC and GI4DPE at 1200 UTC - broad daylight DX! I
> also heard G3UNT calling CQ and despite repeatedly answering him he
> failed to hear me, again!
>
> Things are looking up though, as autumn gets going. The night-time QRN
> still a problem though.
>
> Regards,
>
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Clousta, Shetland
>
> 



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On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> be a first for me!?

I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I 
heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy. 
Didn't have time to get the rig turned on to call you (and no doubt 
you wouldn't have heard my 5mW erp anyway...). A few minutes later 
there was some QRSS on around the same frequency peaking 579, not 
sure whether that was you or somebody else (don't have the patience 
to sit listening to the dots I am afraid...). There seemed to be a 
higher than normal QRN local noise problem though so didn't linger. 
The usual crop of beacons, G0MRF and GI4DPE (good 599) and others.

Now that the winter nights are approaching QSOs over this sort of 
distance will be coming the norm.

73 Dave G3YMC IO91PJ

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Hartmut

Nice catch!

You have the complete message in Jason Fast. Shut down was at 0200Z. Ran 100 watts transmitter power
last night (as indicated in the message) but have the capability to run 400 watts.

Tonight's test will be PSK31 and PSKFEC31. I'll let the transmitter run until 0300Z and post a
schedule later this morning.

Thanks again for watching...always amazed at what you can dig out!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



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Subject: LF: 500kHz 22/23 Sep


> Brief copy of the Jason Fast transmission from WE2XGR/2 on 508.5 kHz
> about 01:45. From the Jason Normal transmission until 01:00 I got only
> a few signs, but no full copy of the message.
>
> Copied the WD2XSH/17 part of the QSO between XSH/17 and XSH/6. From
> WD2XSH/6 some traces were visible during the QSO but not much
> readable. Copied a brief "/6" later on 505.265 when WD2XSH/6 was back
> in beacon mode.
>
> From the UK copied G0MRF and G3XIZ.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>



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Ga LF.

best cpy L, Y, W at abt 1800z

73 Ed DL2HRE jo51tq

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Dave,
Thanks very much for the report and screenshot, much appreciated, nice to
know you are hearing it through the crashes.

73 Chris
Ipswich, Suffolk.

On 18/09/2007, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> Chris, LF,
>
> Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among
> all the static crashes.
> Screenshot attached.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 18 September 2007 21:10
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> Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon
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> Hi Chris, LF,
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> Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
> OK. Not audible so far.
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> 73
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> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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Dave,<br>Thanks very much for the report and screenshot, much appreciated, nice to know you are hearing it through the crashes.<br><br>73 Chris<br>Ipswich, Suffolk.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Dave G3WCB</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">ganymede444@btopenworld.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Chris, LF,<br><br>Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among<br>all the static crashes.<br>Screenshot attached.<br><br>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT<br>Sent: 18 September 2007 21:10<br>To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
<br>Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon<br><br><br>Hi Chris, LF,<br><br>Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%<br>OK. Not audible so far.<br><br>73<br><br>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<br><br></blockquote>
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Vern, VE1VDM is now running his grabber on 137.  "KOX" is strong.

See - http://users.eastlink.ca/%7Eve1vdm/argocaptures/grabber.htm

Or access via link from -

VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5

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Dear LF enthusiasts,

I had technical problems with DFCW and consequently TX in QRSS60
SRI - my mistake - freq was abt 137772.5 - not 137.778 ;-((

TX "L" - as well as under spring tests:
RU6LA - "L"
RA3YO - "Y"
UA4WPF - "W"
UA0AET - "U"
RX9BS - "X"
ZM2E - "Z"

The current in TX ant only abt 2A (is usual abt 3A) with abt 100W Output - I believe that ground very dry now
Today I'll try to improve RF ground and to TX on 137778 in DFCW60

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru


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Salut Marc!
Thanks for nice calture of OK0EMW=B4s signal! Your station is 1325km away
from the beacon.

GL on 500kHz!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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My second reception
OK0EMW
But not present all time.
1300Kms

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW
6WPM
> is         followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
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> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
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> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
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>=20
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CDX were very good,, /17 was as loud as I have ever heard him 30Db above
the background noise
with about 3 Min QSB,,,,, I was FM 19 in southern Pensylvania,, I was 
going to log it and didnt

Bob K3DJC



Copied WD2XSH/17 in QRSS3 on 505.259 kHz 00:26-02:01. There was a
very faint trace of WD2XSH/6 about 03:45-03:50 on 505.266 kHz.
 
Good signals from G3XIZ, G3XVL and G0MRF beaconing on 503 kHz in
QRSS3.
 
Captures and a signal plot can be seen here:
 
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Hello Hartmut,
Thank you very much for sending the capture report to the LF group.
I have only recently finished making the TX and aerial system,  its nice to
know its getting out.
I am using a M0BMU design transmitter with 10 watts output. My aerial is a 9
metre vertical with some top loading and capacity hat.

73
Chris McCarthy
G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB)


On 15/09/2007, Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Again solid copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17 on 505.75kHz. The
> signal was visible 00:56-02:15, best around 02:00.
>
> From the UK copied G3XVL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.
>
> Captures and signal plots can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>

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Hello Hartmut,<br>Thank you very much for sending the capture report to the LF group.<br>I have only recently finished making the TX and aerial system,&nbsp; its nice to know its getting out.<br>I am using a M0BMU design transmitter with 10 watts output. My aerial is a 9 metre vertical with some top loading and capacity hat.
<br><br>73<br>Chris McCarthy<br>G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk JO02NB)<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 15/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hartmut Wolff</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:h-wolff@gmx.de">h-wolff@gmx.de</a>
&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Again solid copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17 on 505.75kHz. The<br>signal was visible 00:56-02:15, best around 02:00.
<br><br>From the UK copied G3XVL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.<br><br>Captures and signal plots can be seen here:<br><br><a href="http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm">http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm</a><br><br><br>73<br>Hartmut
<br><a href="http://www.h-wolff.de">www.h-wolff.de</a><br>Locator: JO52hp<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:24:54 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of
> been sendiong  io83fk   .....


Hi Graham,LF

My mistake! It was IO83LK... That'll teach me for trying to read CW
visually and then remembering it in order to write an email.


> Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band 
> display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the 
> amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks
> like the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked
> at birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two
> data streams , testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not
> show on your site, till some time after the lower one .. odd



I will have a look through the captures and see if I can spot the
effects you mention. If you need any pics I can send them down. Each 5
minute capture is stored here.


Wonder if the auroral conditions played any part in the propagation?

Regards,

John


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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:15:58 +0100
John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi LF,
> 
> I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in
> QRSS scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows
> who it is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.


The QRSS faded down but has come back up and a callsign is clear - G0NBD

Hello Graham!


Cheers,

John


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Lower static level than the night before. Copied RA3YO, RU6LA, UA4WPF,
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
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Chris, LF,

Your QRSS signal solid copy here near Windsor. Clearly audible here, among
all the static crashes.
Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 18 September 2007 21:10
To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
Subject: LF: 500 G3VXL beacon


Hi Chris, LF,

Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95%
OK. Not audible so far.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Hi Chris, LF,

Your signal from Ipswich comming to the NW UK with some QSB but about 95% 
OK. Not audible so far.

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Dave,

> Is there any documented information on the detail of applying forward 
> error correction to PSK31? 

We are using F6CTE's MultiPSK program:
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Subject: LF: Re: T/A [137] last night :  WKO , L , YO
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GM Jean-Piere, LF.

between 1900 and 1930utc i see also W for UA4WPF on 137.7772KHz on your=20
screen.
  i captured yesterday:

73 Ed DL2HRE
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Subject: LF: T/A [137] last night : WKO , L , YO


Hello LF ,

This night, good copy of the beacons of Russia ,
=E2=80=9CL=E2=80=9D (RU6LA) , "YO" (RA3YO) plus traces not readable
On the American continent , just a traces of WD2XKO.

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Brief copy of a "/6" from WD2XSH/6 on 505.266 kHz about 03:00 UTC.
Captured WD2XSH/17 02:11-02:25 in CW on 505.75 kHz. Due to the high
static level not much readable, but got enough for a clear ID.

G0MRF was strong last night. Copied the CW signal, but still nothing
from the PSK31. Good copy of G3XIZ about 18:40 on 503.95kHz.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hello LF ,
Last night was strongly disturbed by the local storms, in spite of that I copied three beacon 
American continent! (what a pleasure, so for a long time one had not copied as much of it !!!! )
I copy : WD2XNS , WD2XES , WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:16:33 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> Quite some signal down here in Bracknell IO91PJ tonight 2000z John, 
> good solid 579 with no QSB and now copying GM4ISM at 419!
> 
> I have made an mp3 recording which you will find among my other 
> recordings at 
> http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/2007/06/05/500khz-recordings


Thanks Dave!

974km, can't be bad. 

I heard G3XVL working G3DXZ this morning, he's in Ipswich JO02nb as I
heard in the QSO. Daylight conditions! He was very
weak but readable. I'd already worked Chas G3DXZ.

I'll go and retrieve the recording imediately.

I think conditions are making a turn for the better now. Just wish the
static would die down!


Some BC interference on the band now. Not sure what it's from. 

Cheers, 

John GM4SLV IP90gg, Clousta, Shetland


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Hi John,

I'll have to  check the text file ... should be  io83lk .... might of been 
sendiong  io83fk   .....

Had a short run tonight looking at selective fading , using your band 
display ,Ran  3 carriers spaced  100 hz appart , just looking at the 
amplitude change at your end .. , some   intresting  captures , looks like 
the frequency has something to  do with  the path, not so marked at 
birmingham .. id noted something a while ago, when running  two data streams 
, testing with gary, the higher frequency one did not show on your site, 
till some time after the lower one .. odd

Looks like to  night , Gary captured a bad case of double parking !

Tnx

Graham ..





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Subject: Re: LF: IO83FK - 502.9


> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:15:58 +0100
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> I've just looked into the shack for 10 minutes and see "IO83FK" in
>> QRSS scroll by a few times but no callsign. Wionder if anyone knows
>> who it is? That locator isn't on any of my lists of active stations.
>
>
> The QRSS faded down but has come back up and a callsign is clear - G0NBD
>
> Hello Graham!
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> Cheers,
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> John
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Andy, all,

Last year, I did a MathCad analysis of the fields from a small vertical 
and a small magnetic loop at 137 kHz. The program calculated the vector 
E and H fields, and the magnitude of E/H for distances from 1 to 10 km. 
For the vertical, there are three terms to consider for the E field, and 
two for the H field. The situation is reversed with the loop, with three 
terms for the H field, and two for the E field.

Comparing the calculated |E/H| values with the "far field" value of 377 
ohms, the error was about 12% at 1 km and 1% at 3 km for both types of 
antenna. The errors at 1 km were in opposite directions, as one would 
expect, favoring the E field for the vertical, and the H field for the 
loop.

If you grant a measurement error of 1%, then it would be best to take 
readings no closer than 3 km from a small 137 kHz antenna, which would 
be lambda/(0.73). If higher errors are permissible, then you can move 
in, but I'd have trouble recommending the 1 km figure at that frequency.

As Andy points out, there is at least one other far-field concept that 
doesn't apply to us LF hobbyists. That only refers to large antennas, 
where the height of a vertical, for example, is significant compared to 
the distance. A corollary occurs with multi-element arrays, where the 
directional pattern is distorted if the spacing between the towers is 
significant compared to the distance.

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Hi John,

I would expect a second sound card to work ok as XP will certainly support 2 
cards to run simultaniously if not more. Cards cost so little it's not a lot 
to spend if doesn't work. You can of course use the mic input on the 
exsisting card but it will require some input attenuation.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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I have a HP Pavilion Media Center a1620.fr Desktop PC running XP. I would 
like to use it to decode QRSS and other signals.  The existing soundcard is 
used for dictation (and it doesn't seem to have a line input, only 
microphone).

HP tell me that I cannot have two soundcards running at once in this 
computer.  They say I can have two soundcards installed, but whenever I am 
using one, the other must be inactive.

Has anyone any comments, please?

John F5VLF






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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy only trace of WD2XKO

the captures of night are at :
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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Ok Henny no problem ! vy good signal .

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> *that was me pa3cpm with a smal signal for pa3ego to get th right=20
> freg.on his argo.*
> **=20
> *henny pa3cpm*
> *73s*

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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu


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Hello LFers !

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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hello Jeff,

Wow lots of power. I can still hear a little carrier right now. 189kc is 
still strong and some other weak signals around 172kc?

Very good bad conditions this morning.
Mike
WE0H

F6CWN wrote:
> Good morning Mike,
> You have, I think, received the transmitter of Allouis, France.
> 2.2MW/ day and -3dB/night, not very QRP  :0)
> 
> http://wikimapia.org/1822014/fr/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave_transmitter_Allouis
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse_fr%C3%A9quence
> http://upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=longwave_transmitter_allouis
> 
> VY 73: Jeff F6CWN


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Again very high static level. Signal level of the 3 T/A signals from
WD2XES, WD2XKO and WD2XNS was a bit higher.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
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Hi all,
A little quieter last night on 500Khz, but conditions still OK
I worked Finbar 579 with almost no QSB during the day . We had a long chat 
on the key (something I have almost never done)  all my CW operation in VHF 
, microwave and moonbounce and is very 'rubber stamp' albeit often at very 
low signal levels.  John GM4SLV replied to by CQ later in the evening. To 
start with I had 100% copy, but the QSB took a bite out of signals and the 
QSO ended.
A little modification was then done to my exciter, putting a socket for 
connection of an external 8MHz source.
I am now driving the exciter with about 10mW of 8MHz from a Softmark DDS. 
This gives me full frequency agility on the band, and I am no longer 
rock-bound
I called CQ for a while, I heard a faint something at one point, but no 
QSOs.. by midnight my signal on the Birmingham grabber was getting quite 
strong, but of course no activity.
hand sent my call on QRSS at one stage, .. must build an interface to the PC 
:<)
Should be on tonight, looking for anyone to try a QSO with, and observing
73s
Mark GM4ISM

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> Hello LF,
>
> After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must be
> a first for me!?
>
> I'm just about to try a FET transplant to save see if a BUZ24 will
> survive a few more volts.
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> Hope to be back on within an few minutes,
>
> John GM4SLV IP90gg
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Dear LF enthusiasts,
TNX by all for the reports, very useful to me!
Congrats Laurence for new one in 9V1!

I have no problems with TX DFCW now, but there was a problem with exact
installation of TX freq (reverse "L" is not problem)

I did't improve RF ground Sep 19, but by 20z the ant current has grown up
to 2.4A (lamp's anode current Ia has remained former)
I have 3 HF bidirectional beverages 320m long everyone (i.e. 6 separate
wires on 320m), but I'll install them only Sep 21 or 22 as TX RF ground

Today I'll try to TX on 137778 in DFCW120 - no RX

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru




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Dear LF enthusiasts,

TNX by all for the reports and comments!

My beacon was from abt 1520z up to 20z
TX ant current was 1,8..2A - no more ;-(
Weather on a Machta(KN97LN) is dry, temp +26...+28 C in the day and
+14...+16 C at night, wind abt 3-5 m/s NW

In attaches my signal on 9V1's grabber for different days abt 17-19z
The best propagation was Sep 20

Yesterday has checked up a level of local QRN on beverage - while quite
not bad - abt on +6..+12dB above than in the best winter's night
usually at this time +18...+25dB above

Today I'll improve TX RF ground and do the beverage (BOG) to ZL

After the ZL-test (abt 19z) I'll CQing on 137.700

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru

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Hi all,

The attached table has summary information of stations that ZM2E will look 
out for.  There are also stateside signals we will look out for.

73, Bob ZL2CA 

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> 
> This is the text of a message I sent earlier, but has not appeared on the 
> reflector, maybe because of attached file size.
> 
> 73, Bob
> 
> Hi all readers,
> 
> Thanks to all who tried to receive ZM2E.  It seems that VK6 is our furthest 
> reception report so far.  We had fairly good LF DX last night, receiving 
> something from every R6L beacon.  See the attached Argo graphic, timed at 
> 1812z, a few minutes before ZL sunrise.  It shows beacon IDs of L, A and W, 
> and frequency included.  

"A" - UA0AET ("AET"), when Vit change frequency up,
also he was see on KL1X@9V

Dmitry


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that was me pa3cpm with a smal signal for pa3ego to get th right freg.on his=
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Gents, I am QRV now, single freq xtal, 502.225=20
Can see myself ob B ham and Shetland grabbers, nice QSO with Finbar earlier,=
 and GI3PDN is a good sig too
Antenna match is off a bit, it is rather wet here :<(
I will listen on my freq, and also elsewhere if I see something on waterfall
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Roelof,
Many thanks for the report , I am on the East coast and not far from
Felixstowe in Suffolk.
You are 182Km away.

Chris G3XVL
Ipswich, Suffolk
JO02NB

On 25/09/2007, Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> wrote:
>
>  Hello Finbar, etc.
>
> Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.
> There is some very fast QSB on all signals.
> GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and G3XVL is even a few dB
> stronger.
> This is measured in a 24 Hz wide bandwidth.
> Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot to watch the meter.
>
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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Roelof,<br>Many thanks for the report , I am on the East coast and not far from Felixstowe in Suffolk. <br>You are 182Km away.<br><br>Chris G3XVL<br>Ipswich, Suffolk<br>JO02NB<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 25/09/2007, 
<b class="gmail_sendername">Roelof Bakker</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">






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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hello Finbar, etc.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Just listened to your QSO with G3XVL and now 
copying G3XVL and GI3PDN.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">There is some very fast QSB on all 
signals.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">GI3PDN is peaking 30 dB over my noise floor and 
G3XVL is even a few dB stronger.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This is measured in a 24 Hz wide 
bandwidth.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Finbar was the strongest of all, but I just forgot 
to watch the meter.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</font></div>
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Hello all,

I am very pleased to report aural copy of my first ever heard Scottish stati=
on on 500 kHz.
GM4ISM was 20 dB over  my noise floor in JO11tm.
Heard on a SPM-30 and the world's smallest LF antenna.

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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Copied G0MRF(QRSS3), G0NBD(QRSS3), GI4DPE(CW), GM4ISM(CW), GM4SLV (CW)
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David , tnx ,
My setup :   http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Setup/Setup.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre

David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> Yes excellent conditions this afternoon.  I wish I had tuned in much=20
> earlier.  I started to observe ZM2E when I first tuned in around 1.5=20
> hours before my local sunset time.  Currently I am still in bright=20
> sunlight at this end.
>
> In reply to your question - My receiver is a Yaesu FT-920=20
> (transceiver).  I would have thought that it's performance down on 137=20
> would have been rather poor.  Surprisingly it seems to work quite=20
> well.  My antenna is 250M of 2.5 mm diameter galvanized fencing wire=20
> (no insulation).  The wire is sitting on damp grass (at ground level)=20
> and pointing roughly 90 degrees orientation from due North.  I have a=20
> 30M long coax feed with a Z =3D 9:1 toroidal isolation / matching=20
> transformer wound on an FT50-J core.
>
> Regards,
>
> David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>> Hello David ,
>>
>> Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
>> David what your setup please ?
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>>
>> David Isele - VK6DI a =E9crit :
>>> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
> VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv
>
> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
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David and others,

DIV> This weekend I plan to run a grabber on 137.
Very useful news!

DIV> Details can be found on my web site as shown below.  I have no 
DIV> difficulty seeing NDB activity from ZL and from Norfolk Island.  
DIV> Hopefully if conditions are favorable you should be able to view at
DIV> least the ZM2E signal as seen from Western Australia.
David, I already now see a good picture on yours grabber

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Hi David

My signal was below ru6la 0.15 Hz and shift (-0.15) Hz dfcw120  21/09 
21:45-21:55 "Y"
I don't see graber after 21:45 utc

Dmitry

David Isele - VK6DI wrote:

> Hello Dmitry,
>
> Yes that seems possible.  The signal faded rapidly after the gray line 
> moved offshore at my end.
>
> The grabber will continue again on 137 Saturday & Sunday night,
>
> Regards,
>
> David, VK6DI, OF88cd.
> ________________________
>
> Dmitry wrote:
>
>> Hi LF
>>
>> I think it's RU6LA traces:
>>
>> Dmitry
>
> VK6DI Web page: http://tinyurl.com/lp2vv
>
> VK6DI Captures: http://tinyurl.com/2lxyy5
>
>



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Ok John

That was me on 503  (g0nbd) in cross band  psk31 qso with Gary g4wgt on top 
band  , we managed a full duplex qso with little problem , we are looking 
into a  psk based arq mode , tonights qso was a dummy run with 'normal' 
psk31

Tnx - Graham ..




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:06:33 +0100
> John Pumford-Green GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello LF,
>>
>> I've just heard (20:03 UTC) a weak but readable CW signal from G3YXM
>> on 502.7kHz.
>
> Now copying by ear and eye G3YXM calling F6BWO on 502.8 in QRSS-3
>
> There's some PSK type sig fading up and down in the noise on 503 - only
> just visible on the grabber. Not sure who it is.
>
> There's some deep QSB around as well as some QRN.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 




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Quite some signal down here in Bracknell IO91PJ tonight 2000z John, 
good solid 579 with no QSB and now copying GM4ISM at 419!

I have made an mp3 recording which you will find among my other 
recordings at 
http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/2007/06/05/500khz-recordings

Been busy on other things (including chasing 3B7C on the hf bands) so 
not been able to get on tx lately.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello David ,

Very good copy of ZM2E on your screen !
David what your setup please ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

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>
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Malcolm,

> Hi. Can anyone reassure me.

Be reassured. Your meter is measuring the magnetic field, and the 
calibration setup is primarily generating a magnetic field. The cal is 
being done under near-field conditions to permit the use of low power 
and take advantage of knowing the mag field accurately based on geometry 
and current measurement. The scale conversion to electric field remains 
valid as long as you agree to take your real measurements under 
far-field conditions.

A further discussion of calibration techniques including a simpler 
arrangement than Helmholtz coils may be found at:
http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm

John Andrews, W1TAG


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Finbar,
Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about  RST 439
(400 miles)


73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)

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Finbar,<br>Hearing your beacon on 501.4 KHz at 07:30UTC about&nbsp; RST 439<br>(400 miles)<br><br><br>73 Chris G3XVL JO02NB (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br>

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Hi, John, LF,

You were solid RST569 during your QSO with GM4ISM just now. I couldn't
detect any sign of Mark however.

RX is a W&G SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: Re: LF: 500 Birmingham Grabber!


On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:07:05 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Sep 2007 at 22:24, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
>
> > After a few CQ calls I've put a QRSS transmission on 502.2 for a few
> > ninutes and see my signal on Dave's grabber in Birmingham. That must
> > be a first for me!?
>
> I briefly listened on the band around 2115z before turning in. I
> heard one of your CQ calls down here in Bracknell, 549 solid copy.


Thanks Dave for the report, yes things are picking up now!


I put the QRSS on just to give an identifiable trace on Dave's grabber,
I would never consider a real QSO in that mode!


I had short QSO with Mark GM4ISM, but lost him in QSB/QRN then a longer
one with GI4DPE between 2133-2155 UTC. Shame you didn't hang around and
give it a try.

I'm starting to hear some of the more southern stations now (QRN
permitting). Have worked G3DXZ and GW4HXO in recent days for the first
time.

Was hearing by ear G3XIZ's QRSS on 503.5 (from memory) too last night.

You missed a great evening on Tuesday - with at least 6 stations active
in real CW, all scatterred over the band with xtal controlled rigs. We
had a ball. I'm hoping that more people will be encouraged to dust off
the rigs that have lain dormant over the summer doldrums and come on.
It's no longer necessary to stay up into the wee small hours.

We've been received at good readable strength in Finland now by
Paul-Henrik (OH1LSQ) from 18:40z onwards.

I've heard G3UNT reliably in the daytime but despite a valiant attempt
(with help from Mal G3KEV) we failed to make a QSO on Saturday morning.

Best 73 from Shetland (no longer the only GM on 500!)

John GM4SLV IP90gg








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Hi all after 2 years I come back,

I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.

This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.

Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
It's good for NDB.


73
Marc F5MAF
TOULOUSE JN03PP



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Hi LF,

What or who is this ??

Been on & off for last 20 minutes or so.

Quite strong.

Had to reduce resolution to get it on LF.

73

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Thank you Lubos,
6 years ago I received OK1FIG on 137 KHz.

73

Marc

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk a =E9crit :
> Hallo Marc!
> That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
> Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
> Frequency:   505.060kHz
> Power:       0,98W ERP
> Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW 6W=
PM
> is 		 followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
> Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections
>=20
> Your report will be welcome!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> **********************************
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE
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> Hi all after 2 years I come back,
>=20
> I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.
>=20
> This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.
>=20
> Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
> I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
> I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
> It's good for NDB.
>=20
>=20
> 73
> Marc F5MAF
> TOULOUSE JN03PP
>=20
>=20
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Hallo Marc!
That=B4s fine, you are back on 500kHz.
Try to receive my beacon OK0EMW at the evening.
Frequency:   505.060kHz
Power:       0,98W ERP
Location:    Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:        CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:        Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS =3D" in regular CW =
6WPM
is 		 followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter: DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
Aerial:      Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections

Your report will be welcome!

Lubos, OK2BVG

**********************************


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: [500] Beacon

Hi all after 2 years I come back,

I saw, all station transmit between 501.5 and 503.950.

This morning, nothing with Argo on 502.5 with 200 Hz CW filter.

Anyone have beacon to transmit 12h/24h?
I would like to improvee my LF station (137 and 500).
I use T antenna 8m high and 12m (x3)long. Ground : 4x 13m long
It's good for NDB.


73
Marc F5MAF
TOULOUSE JN03PP



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Hi LF,

The signal has just gone off 2001utc, it has been continuous since my e-mail 
(1941utc).

Signal was precisely 502.500 khz to 503.000 khz & about 10 - 15 db over 
noise on SpecLab.

Not seen on the grabbers.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Hi LF,
>
> What or who is this ??
>
> Been on & off for last 20 minutes or so.
>
> Quite strong.
>
> Had to reduce resolution to get it on LF.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XNS 00:00 => 03:00 ( small signal )

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Mike,

I have some plots of the carrier strength of a 516 kHz aero beacon taken 
at a distance of 580 km. One would cover the daytime period, and the 
other would cover sunset until early evening. They are on my laptop at 
home, but I'd be happy to add titles and get them to you tonight or 
tomorrow. The mid-day variations were on the order of 10 dB, increasing 
to 20 dB as the afternoon progressed. The nighttime recording is 
dominated by a 45-50 dB increase in strength over the mid-day value, 
starting about an hour before sunset.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Mike Dennison wrote:
> Does anyone have a spectrogram screen shot of 500kHz signals showing 
> the QSB period and approximate depth? 


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Does anyone have a spectrogram screen shot of 500kHz signals showing 
the QSB period and approximate depth? This could be CW or QRSS, but I 
am especially interested in seeing how QRSS is affected by fading. An 
estimate of the path lengths involved would also be helpful.

This is for the new edition of LF Today.

Thanks in advance.

Mike, G3XDV
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Hi Henny




> capture 20:15 utc
> pa3cpm jo22mb
> 
> but who?
  
RA3YO dfcw20


73 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?

 A 500 kHz BOG?  
The mind BOGgles!!!
(sorry- couldn't resist.....)
Dave, ZL3FJ


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Dear Dave, LF Group,

I have tried this - turning the plane of the loop horizontal more-or-less
nulls out all the signals, tending to confirm the theory that there isn't
much horizontally polarised signal near ground level. A side effect with a
high-Q tuned loop is that if it is near the ground, it will be knocked out
of tune by the combination of extra stray capacitance and the "shorted turn"
effect of the ground.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: LF: [500]: BOG - Beverage on the Ground & GM4SLV report


> EWE - is that a sheep?
>
> I use a 1.8m square 2-turn loop "stealth" RX antenna at my alternate QTH
in
> Devon. It is series tuned with a 1.8 nF capacitor, and it receives very
> well. The bottom leg is very near the ground, and I am considering lying
it
> on its
> side to get omni-directional reception (= "LOG"?)  ;-)
>
> The ground conductivity is very poor, so it might well work.
>




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Hi,

Running DFCW02 beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz with 9wpm CW ID, 20 mW ERP, 
5 minute sync, reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XNS 00:00 => 03:00 ( correct signal ! )

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Hi,

Just uploaded copies of my signal at 2 grabbers from last nights tests. It 
should be obvious what the comparisons are, I hope the pictures do it 
justice.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page11.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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I have a JRC NRD-535 receiver and it seems to work fine down to 137khz
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> Hello Dave,
>
> Excellent performance is provided by the AR7030.
> However its user interface does not please averyone, to say the least.
> The Icom R75 is the most popular receiver amongst NDB chasers.
> Almost the same performance is availble with the IC718.
> This is no coincidence as it is an offspring of a commercial transceiver 
> (IC78) aimed at the marine market. (Ask Finbar, EI0CF, he owns one).
> JRC receivers are also good performers at LF; e.g. the NRD535.
> I own a NRD-91 which tunes down to 10 kHz and is very sensitive.
>
> The W&G SPM-30 SLM is also nice when you like the narrow 24 Hz filter.
> Some people are experimenting with a modified SoftRock design SDR and are 
> achieving amazing results.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best regards,
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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Thanks John,

> The signal on 505.75 is probably WD2XSH/17, Dave Riley (AA1A). He runs 
> regular speed CW most evenings after 0100 UTC or so.

> John Andrews, W1TAG

Dave already confirmed the monitored shutdown at 02:16 UTC

Hartmut



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Hartmut,

The signal on 505.75 is probably WD2XSH/17, Dave Riley (AA1A). He runs 
regular speed CW most evenings after 0100 UTC or so.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> On 505.75 kHz I captured a CW trace on my QRSS3 screen. Probably one
> of the US WD2XSH stations.



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137 kHz: Captured UA4WPF 19:10-21:05 on 137.7772 kHz. Some traces were
visible on 137.776 01:20-03:00 but nothing readable.

Capture of UA4WPF can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: Added screenshots of G0MRF, G4WGT, GI4DPE and GM4SLV to my
website:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

On 505.75 kHz I captured a CW trace on my QRSS3 screen. Probably one
of the US WD2XSH stations.

73
Hartmut
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Ok  Mike

Thanks for that and Gary G4GWT , for info , looks like ive picked a bad =
night , :-( ...

G..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Nice sigs graham hearing you 5 and 3 in io83rj not far away I know
  73 Mike de G4VSS
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    Hi All=20

    Running tx test on 502.000 khz ,  cw  at 5 wpm , started approx  =
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    re-vamped exciter , ae and earth system=20

    Siganl reports  strenght / quality welcome=20

    Tnx

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Nice sigs graham hearing you 5 and 3 in io83rj not far away I know
73 Mike de G4VSS
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  Hi All

  Running tx test on 502.000 khz ,  cw  at 5 wpm , started approx  20:30 hrs
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  Tnx

  Graham

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>re-vamped exciter , ae and earth =
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Hi All=20

Running tx test on 502.000 khz ,  cw  at 5 wpm , started approx  20:30 =
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re-vamped exciter , ae and earth system=20

Siganl reports  strenght / quality welcome=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running tx test on 502.000 khz ,&nbsp; =
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5 wpm , started approx&nbsp; 20:30 hrs local time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>re-vamped exciter , ae and earth system =

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GI4DPE & G0NBD  first  PSK  and longest data qso (yet) 

10/9  22:00 local 


G0NBD and GI4DPE , established communication ,  Using a mix of modes , 
psk31, qpsk31 and pskam10. Hampered by adverse noise and deep qsb , an 
exchange was achieved over a distance of some 170 miles. 


Technically the experiment spanned the development of radio 
communications, Finbar , achieving, the linear modulation of his 
mosfet  class c/d transmitter by amplitude modulation  of  PSK31 and 
QPSK31. Modifications where needed to enable the modulator to handle 
tones outside the normal speech band. To ensure minimum bandwidth  a 
frequency below 100 Hz  was used. 


On my part, linier transmission of  PSKAM10 was generated by use of a 
Racal MA1723 exciter audio fed to  the 600 ohm line feed , final 
amplification by  class A solidstate drive amplifier. 


A combination of 'Digipan' Psk software, unique in that it allows tone 
generation to 0 Hz and Multipsk, generating pskam10. was used for the 
test. Reception of the AM signal was facilitated by the selection of 
the 400 Hz  filter , reception of the full signal was necessary, due 
to  the low power contained in the sidebands 


Graham . 




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Hearing G3XIZ 549 to 339 with QRN in 502 approx, in qso with someone??=20
 (QSO end 21:30)  Other station visible on Spectlab but not readable,... =
Who?


 gi3pdn 549 calling  cq

Also very weak slow CW signal about 30Hz LF from DI2BE...possibly AG?

ATU now fully installed.. getting good match..
now for some sort of Transmitter and an NOV

For those who beacon .. how about breaking say on the hour precisely and =
calling CQ for a few min..=20
I am sure a few more QSOs would result..

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hearing G3XIZ 549 to 339 with QRN in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;(QSO end 21:30)&nbsp; Other =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;gi3pdn 549 calling&nbsp; =
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30Hz LF from=20
DI2BE...possibly AG?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ATU now fully installed.. getting good=20
match..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>now for some sort of Transmitter and an =

NOV</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For those who beacon .. how about =
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the hour precisely&nbsp;and calling CQ for a few min.. </FONT></DIV>
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Hi Dave, i think part of the problem is that at this time the ionosphere is
still undergoing the chnage to night-time conditions and has not stabilised.
the important time is not ground sunset but sunset at the mid-path point at
an altitude of 100 to 150kms. Geoclock says that Shetland was into the edge
of full shadow at ground level at 2020 BST ...40 mins befor QSO start, But
the shadow edge at 100km would not reach Shetland until 2120 BST. So the
illumination would still not be "dowsedD at the middle of the path until
about 2140 BST at which time the "reflection height"  would still be
changing quite rapidly. The path should start to stabilise to night time
conditions some time soon after 2200BST. Also as the D-layer absorption dies
there may be signals returned from even higher levels which are still
illuminated. This fading is undoubtedly the interaction of two ionospheric
paths, and the groundwave stength is negligable by comparison.

Exactly what the propagation conditions are in this transition phase is open
to conjecture but there is the chance of a tilted region at the reflection
point, focusing, and maybe other effects. A lot of the signals I have logged
at 136 often show deep fades on the rising signal strength at the darkness
edge time. The more interesting data is on the signals once the night-time
phase has settled in over the path, because this should be more reliable.
Conditions are generally very good at present with very little extra
ionosation due to geomagnetic effects. Also the solar wind is relatively
quiet so there are not so many shocks setting up "waves" in the ionospheric
levels.
This may be the last "quiet" winter before the ramp up to the next Solar
Maximum.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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>
> Hi John / LF
>
> That's a very interesting comment.  Not because of the 2-3 minute  period
> that you have observed, but because you think it's unusual.
>
> Having monitored my beacon for a fair time now I've noticed that after
> sunset the typical period for a cycle of QSB seems to be 3 minutes. That's
at a
> range of 150km and 700km (thanks to Dave 'YXM and Hartmut)
>
> I'm intrigued as to the conditions you normally experience with Finbar at
> 22.00 local over a sea path. Is that consistent propagation or do you have
less
> destructive QSB over a shorter or longer period?
>
> I notice in this months Rad Com, which fell through the door today, That
Pat
> Hawker devotes a couple of pages to 500kHz. While suitcase transmitters
are
> thankfully absent, he does quote extensively from a recent QEX article
which
> makes some interesting observations about short vertical vs loop antennas
and
> how 500kHz can produce optimal ground wave in terms of S:N per Watt over
60
> to 200 miles.
>
> Sadly, he also says that as yet, he hasn't heard a single UK station on
500k
> yet.
>
> Still, all publicity is good publicity.
>
> 73
>
> David
>
>
>
> Hello LF Group,
>
> Finbar and I moved our sked forward tonight to  9pm local (20:00UTC) and
> noticed some rather rapid, deep fading. I'm not  sure if this was time
> related due to being closer to our sunset time, or  condition related.
> I'm sure the fading is generally slower and less  catastrophic in the
> dips.
>
> The QSB on Finbar's signal went from RST  579 to NIL and back over a
> period of around 2-3 minutes.
>
> Some  periods were much shorter, some longer, but in the 20 minute QSO
> there must  have been 5 or 6 complete cycles. The QRN made it a bit
> difficult to tell  if the signal was fading or the noise increasing  at
> times!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hi John / LF
 
That's a very interesting comment.  Not because of the 2-3 minute  period 
that you have observed, but because you think it's unusual.
 
Having monitored my beacon for a fair time now I've noticed that after  
sunset the typical period for a cycle of QSB seems to be 3 minutes. That's at a  
range of 150km and 700km (thanks to Dave 'YXM and Hartmut)
 
I'm intrigued as to the conditions you normally experience with Finbar at  
22.00 local over a sea path. Is that consistent propagation or do you have less  
destructive QSB over a shorter or longer period?
 
I notice in this months Rad Com, which fell through the door today, That  Pat 
Hawker devotes a couple of pages to 500kHz. While suitcase transmitters  are 
thankfully absent, he does quote extensively from a recent QEX article which  
makes some interesting observations about short vertical vs loop antennas and  
how 500kHz can produce optimal ground wave in terms of S:N per Watt over 60  
to 200 miles.
 
Sadly, he also says that as yet, he hasn't heard a single UK station on  500k 
yet.
 
Still, all publicity is good publicity.
 
73
 
David

 
 
Hello LF Group,

Finbar and I moved our sked forward tonight to  9pm local (20:00UTC) and
noticed some rather rapid, deep fading. I'm not  sure if this was time
related due to being closer to our sunset time, or  condition related.
I'm sure the fading is generally slower and less  catastrophic in the
dips.

The QSB on Finbar's signal went from RST  579 to NIL and back over a
period of around 2-3 minutes.

Some  periods were much shorter, some longer, but in the 20 minute QSO
there must  have been 5 or 6 complete cycles. The QRN made it a bit
difficult to tell  if the signal was fading or the noise increasing  at
times!








   

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Hello LF Group,

Finbar and I moved our sked forward tonight to 9pm local (20:00UTC) and
noticed some rather rapid, deep fading. I'm not sure if this was time
related due to being closer to our sunset time, or condition related.
I'm sure the fading is generally slower and less catastrophic in the
dips.

The QSB on Finbar's signal went from RST 579 to NIL and back over a
period of around 2-3 minutes.

Some periods were much shorter, some longer, but in the 20 minute QSO
there must have been 5 or 6 complete cycles. The QRN made it a bit
difficult to tell if the signal was fading or the noise increasing at
times!

Very interesting - we even used his QSK facility so I could break in to
forewarn of loss or return of his signal.

Now I must get the soldering iron out and add break in to my TX - at
present I have to throw a big switch to c/o to TX.

Regards,

John GM4SLV



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capture 20:15 utc
pa3cpm jo22mb

but who?
73s
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Sorry a bit late today

137 kHz: Copied WD2XES with a lot of rapid fading

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500 kHz: Copied the QRSS signal from G3XIZ and G0MRF

Captures and signal plot can be seen here:
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ge Dmitry, LF.

just captured ur dfcw120-signal on 137.7778KHz, nice signal that time. =
congrats for new ant.
 any drift from my hommade direct conversion RX(SO42P) sri.

73 Ed DL2HRE

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Mike,

There are some 500 KHz plots on Hartmut Wolff's capture page :-

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Does anyone have a spectrogram screen shot of 500kHz signals showing 
> the QSB period and approximate depth? This could be CW or QRSS, but I 
> am especially interested in seeing how QRSS is affected by fading. An 
> estimate of the path lengths involved would also be helpful.
> 
> This is for the new edition of LF Today.
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> Thanks in advance.
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> Mike, G3XDV
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Hi all,
Today I have posted off my NOV application for 500KHz,
Equipment is about ready, (no antenna changeover  or lids on boxes, but =
basically operatable)
I have a HB converter, to 2m, and a simple low level Xtal controlled CW =
exciter (3W)
I have a broadband linear amplifier, capable of up to 40W
With luck I will be QRV soon.
A  page on my website has been started for LF / MF operation.. a picture =
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www.dc2light.co.uk

See you all soon I hope, or more to the point, I hope you will see me!

73s
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Today I have posted off my NOV =
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500KHz,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Equipment is about ready, (no antenna=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a HB converter, to 2m, and a =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a broadband linear amplifier, =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With luck&nbsp;I will be QRV =
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hope you will see me!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73s</FONT></DIV>
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Tnx Jose for the report. We must try a xband qso next time. I will also =
listen on 7020 khz cw.
73 de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello all,

  I=B4ve just copied CW QSO=B4s on 502.5 kHz, very strong Mal and =
Finbar, but signals from John, GM4SLV,  were audible too, 1938 km path.

  73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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137 kHz: UA4WPF and RA3YO copied

A captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: Copied G0MRF in QRSS3 and CW. G0NBD in QPSK

Captures and signal plot can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


Nothing copied from the US last night. There was a cw trace on
505.75kHz on the QRSS captures, but nothing readable. Probably there
was a trace on 506.31 about 03:10-03:15 but not sure what it was.


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Ok Gary,

Is that a new frequency for gw4hxo, ? I last had him listed at 503.8 , and 
gw3uep at  501.5 .. fine on the can's .. im still looking for my set of 
sg-browns ... hope i dident flog them on e-bay !

tnx Graham ..

Ps

If any one is running a beacon on a 'new' frequency , or a old one for that 
matter , please check you listing ,  >>> 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule  <<< If condx 
are down, at least we can report by 'frequency'





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> Hi Graham,
>
> The station on 501.525 KHz seems to have moved up a little to 501.535 KHz. 
> I can just decode the call with my new headphones & homebuilt CW filter. 
> It is Mike GW4HXO.
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> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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>> Seeing a low cw signal   501.525 , gw3uep ? too low to copy by ear .. 
>> keying speed bit fast for decoding by spectrum plot
>>
>> can anyone confirm ?
>>
>> Tnx - Graham ..
>>
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GE Ed, thanks for your report of OK0EMW this evening and for nice
snapshot.
 
GL on 500kHz! 
 
Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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-----Original Message-----
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dr Lowfer.
 
2day captured on 505.1KHz OK0EMW and DI2AM, they ar audioable!
   on 137.778KHz captured RA3YO in dfcw90.
 
gl Ed DL2HRE
 

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Thanks, Gary.

Nice report...also starting to show on the GM4SLV grabber.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi Dave,

Your signal OK here in NW, just audible at times, noticable QSB.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW 
> ERP
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
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> 




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It's your lucky day Warren.

http://www.we0h.us/Amateur_Radio_stuff/TS850/ts_850_lf_tx_mod.pdf

Enjoy.

Mike
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k2ors wrote:
> Hello the list,
> 
>    I have heard that there is a mod to make the TS850 transmit on LF through the transverter port.
> Anyone have this mod?
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> 
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Hello the list,

   I have heard that there is a mod to make the TS850 transmit on LF through the transverter port.
Anyone have this mod?

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Graham,

> According to  the 'printed word' the PSKAM10 mode is supposed to  be 
> quite robust .. 

The printed word is correct, at least to a point. PSKAM10 (only 
available in F6CTE's MultiPSK program)is definitely more robust than 
straight PSK31. This comes less from the lower data rate than the 
transmission of each character twice. It takes up less BW than straight 
PSK31.

Its biggest shortcoming appears to be in establishing initial decoder 
sync. Sometimes, during a fade, the decoder will go "on walkabout," and 
not re-sync for some time. That can be a bit annoying. Patrick suggests 
that his PSKFEC31 offers better decoder sync behavior.

I have run PSKAM10 on 137 kHz a number of times, both at full power and 
in low power tests over a 200 km path. Jay and I have had several QSO's 
in this mode, and it has been well behaved. The mode's noise behavior is 
much better than straight PSK31.

Interesting alternatives would be the PSK08 mode in Spectrum Lab, and 
JASON Fast. I'm looking forward to seeing how some of these things work 
with the more rapid fading at 500 kHz.

Hopefully, someone will give your PSKAM10 beacon a try, and report the 
results. The MultiPSK program may be downloaded at 
http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm .

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Thanks for reports on last two test's, looks like psk could be used as a qso 
mode on the band , even with existing power levels , for these tests im 
estimating a peak  erp in the region of 50 mW maximum

According to  the 'printed word' the PSKAM10 mode is supposed to  be quite 
robust .. As a simple 'head to  head'  I'll run the two modes in parallel. 
sunset till  midnight as before , each stream will be -3db on stn peak 
output


>From a short test last night , noticed what appeared to  be 'selective 
fading'  something I'd not expected ?


Carrier frequency (from software)

503.2 =  QPSK31   USB.....Digipan
503.1= PSKAM10 ....Multipsk  ver 4.4 USB

Tnx

Graham .. 




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Graham,

> Running  QPSK  data stream on  503.2 KHz 
> will be on till approx  24:00  local time
> Reports welcome

this was the best I captured around 22:40UTC:

g�nbd qsl g�nbd@hotmail.com c;cqc; test g�nbd g�nbd g�nbd qsl
g�nbd@ail.com ebd {26}nbd g�nbd qsl g�nbd@hr


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Hello Graham,
Your QPSK  in Ipswich, slow fading in and out of noise, first seen and
resolved at 2120UTC, then down to no trace, back up and stronger at 2237
utc.
here is the later copy:

d g0nbd test g0nbd com cqcqcq ti
qcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl  g0nb e1hotl.com cqcd g0nbd g0nbd  qsl
g0.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g onbd g0nbd@hotmfcom cqcqcq test atonbd bd g0nb_
d@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nP- o)nsl  g0nbd

currently showing no trace (2144utc)

regards
Chris


On 08/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Running  QPSK  data stream on  503.2 KHz
>
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>
> Reports welcome
>
> Tnx - Graham
>
> G0NBD -  IO83LK
>
>
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Hello Graham,<br>Your QPSK&nbsp; in Ipswich, slow fading in and out of noise, first seen and resolved at 2120UTC, then down to no trace, back up and stronger at 2237 utc.<br>here is the later copy:<br><br>d g0nbd test g0nbd com cqcqcq ti
<br>qcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd&nbsp; qsl&nbsp; g0nb <a href="http://e1hotl.com">e1hotl.com</a> cqcd g0nbd g0nbd&nbsp; qsl&nbsp; <a href="http://g0.com">g0.com</a> cqcqcq test g0nbd g onbd g0nbd@hotmfcom cqcqcq test atonbd bd g0nb_ <a href="mailto:d@hotmail.com">
d@hotmail.com</a> cqcqcq test g0nP- o)nsl&nbsp; g0nbd<br>&nbsp;<br>currently showing no trace (2144utc)<br><br>regards<br>Chris<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 08/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Graham</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">
g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Running&nbsp;&nbsp;QPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;data stream on&nbsp;&nbsp;503.2 KHz<br><br>
will be on till approx&nbsp;&nbsp;24:00&nbsp;&nbsp;local time<br><br>Reports welcome<br><br>Tnx - Graham<br><br>G0NBD -&nbsp;&nbsp;IO83LK<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Running  QPSK  data stream on  503.2 KHz 

will be on till approx  24:00  local time 

Reports welcome 

Tnx - Graham

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G0MRF
   
  It is an interesting beacon in that it carries different modes (I have yet to resolve the NB RTTY). Oh and BTW this is the PSK31 I am getting David J 
   
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 mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><A href="mailto:g0mrf@'l.com"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"><FONT face="Times New Roman">g0mrf@'l.com</FONT></SPAN></A>�<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>...................... it's not 100%. </SPAN></B></div>  <div><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</div>  <div><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
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137kHz: Copied RA3YO and UA4WPF until 21:00. Only partial copy of
WD2XNS 00:30-01:00.

Captures can be seen here:
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500kHz:WD2XSH/17 was transmitting in QRSS3 on 505.25 kHz. Accidently
my QRSS3 captured failed, but I could identify the signal on the CW
screen at 00:45. The QRSS3 trace was clearly visible and readable
above the EU-beacons on 505kHz. The CW signal send before the QRSS3
signal was visible but not readable. For signal analysing (fading
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Hi Gary, LF.

Good copy of your DFCW beacon. Screenshot attached, showing some QSB at the
beginning of the capture.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Hi,

Running DFCW02 beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz with 9wpm CW ID, 50 mW ERP,
5 minute sync, reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Here, here
   
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Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
  On 2 Sep 2007 at 11:18, Michael Probert wrote:

> Many thanks to all who sent reports on my beacon last night-namely
> G8FZK, G4WGT, GM4SLV and Hartmut Wolff.
>
> I called CQ for about � hour after closing the beacon ( and the
> previous evening ) "No responses

When I briefly listened you were a good 569 in Bracknell.

Don't know what time it was you were calling CQ Mike but it was
probably well past my shut-eye time. Now that the winter evenings are
approaching perhaps people should call CQ before they go into beacon
mode - 9-10pm or earlier would suit me. Never in the shack at 11pm,
but could do 6am...

73 Dave G3YMC

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<DIV>Here, here</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Petefmt<BR><BR><B><I>Dave Sergeant &lt;dave@davesergeant.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On 2 Sep 2007 at 11:18, Michael Probert wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Many thanks to all who sent reports on my beacon last night-namely<BR>&gt; G8FZK, G4WGT, GM4SLV and Hartmut Wolff.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I called CQ for about � hour after closing the beacon ( and the<BR>&gt; previous evening ) "No responses<BR><BR>When I briefly listened you were a good 569 in Bracknell.<BR><BR>Don't know what time it was you were calling CQ Mike but it was<BR>probably well past my shut-eye time. Now that the winter evenings are<BR>approaching perhaps people should call CQ before they go into beacon<BR>mode - 9-10pm or earlier would suit me. Never in the shack at 11pm,<BR>but could do 6am...<BR><BR>73 Dave
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On 2 Sep 2007 at 11:18, Michael Probert wrote:

> Many thanks to all who sent reports on my beacon last night-namely 
> G8FZK, G4WGT, GM4SLV and Hartmut Wolff.
> 
> I called CQ for about =BD hour  after closing the beacon ( and the
> previous evening ) "No responses

When I briefly listened you were a good 569 in Bracknell.

Don't know what time it was you were calling CQ Mike but it was 
probably well past my shut-eye time. Now that the winter evenings are 
approaching perhaps people should call CQ before they go into beacon 
mode - 9-10pm or earlier would suit me. Never in the shack at 11pm, 
but could do 6am...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Many thanks to all who sent reports on my beacon last night-namely  =
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Hello Mike,

I use ICOM 718 transceivers which tune from 30mhz down to 30kHz. Has =
built
in switched pre amp but usually find unnecessary on 500 as the rx is
extremely sensitive.  Can only fit one i.f filter so I have two 718s. =
One
with 125hz and other with 250hz. Filters imported from the States.  At =
the
current price of around =A3400 it must be the best buy in the market at
present.
Hope XYL and yourself are both well.

73

Mike GW4HXO.

_________________________________________________________________________=
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Subject: LF: [500] Best receivers?

Thanks to those who have so far provided input for the new edition of=20
LF Today.

My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at=20
500kHz?=20

My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the=20
attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band.=20
So what is your experience?

Thanks in advance for any data.

de Mike, G3XDV
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On 4 Sep 2007 at 19:03, hamilton mal wrote:

> Dave.
> QTR 0100 UTC approx, mode CW with qsb in/out 459 peak.
> Abt the same strength on both vert and large 190m vert loop.
> Also active on band abt the same time VE1ZZ and VE1ZJ
> 
> 73 mal/g3kev

This site with a list of top band beacons by OK1RP was mentioned in 
today's ARRL Contest Rate Sheet:
http://topband.blog.cz/0611/160m-beacon-list

This shows a beacon on 1835.0 with the callsign "KB4". You might try 
contacting him to see if he has any more information.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Dave.
QTR 0100 UTC approx, mode CW with qsb in/out 459 peak.
Abt the same strength on both vert and large 190m vert loop.
Also active on band abt the same time VE1ZZ and VE1ZJ

73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 4 Sep 2007 at 17:37, hamilton mal wrote:
> 
> > I think this beacon could be located in S/America, it was fairly weak
> > on cw. Am I the only one that can hear this beacon?
> 
> No actually listened myself.... but what time are you hearing it and 
> at what strength? I assume if it is in South America you are not 
> copying it in daytime....
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 


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Try one of the remote web-controlled  hf rx's  over in the usa , see if it 
shows up after dark over there  ?

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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>I think this beacon could be located in S/America, it was fairly weak on 
>cw.
> Am I the only one that can hear this beacon?
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> On 3 Sep 2007 at 10:37, hamilton mal wrote:
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>> > Hi all
>> > Beacon active on 1835 khz sending 160m exp beacon reply HOTMAIL.COM,
>> > language appears to be spanish. Does anyone know where this is
>> > located. No callsign de G3KEV
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Why on earth do we need beacons on Top Band, especially there right
>> in the middle of the active part of the band and next to the 1836 QRP
>> activity frequency? Don't suppose it is our friend EA3?? (forget the
>> call but you know who I mean) who often calls for long periods at
>> s9++ listening on 40m for replies.....
>>
>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>>
>> http://www.davesergeant.com
>>
>>
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On 4 Sep 2007 at 17:37, hamilton mal wrote:

> I think this beacon could be located in S/America, it was fairly weak
> on cw. Am I the only one that can hear this beacon?

No actually listened myself.... but what time are you hearing it and 
at what strength? I assume if it is in South America you are not 
copying it in daytime....

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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I think this beacon could be located in S/America, it was fairly weak on cw.
Am I the only one that can hear this beacon?
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 3 Sep 2007 at 10:37, hamilton mal wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > Beacon active on 1835 khz sending 160m exp beacon reply HOTMAIL.COM,
> > language appears to be spanish. Does anyone know where this is
> > located. No callsign de G3KEV
> > 
> > 
> 
> Why on earth do we need beacons on Top Band, especially there right 
> in the middle of the active part of the band and next to the 1836 QRP 
> activity frequency? Don't suppose it is our friend EA3?? (forget the 
> call but you know who I mean) who often calls for long periods at 
> s9++ listening on 40m for replies.....
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 


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On 3 Sep 2007 at 10:37, hamilton mal wrote:

> Hi all
> Beacon active on 1835 khz sending 160m exp beacon reply HOTMAIL.COM,
> language appears to be spanish. Does anyone know where this is
> located. No callsign de G3KEV
> 
> 

Why on earth do we need beacons on Top Band, especially there right 
in the middle of the active part of the band and next to the 1836 QRP 
activity frequency? Don't suppose it is our friend EA3?? (forget the 
call but you know who I mean) who often calls for long periods at 
s9++ listening on 40m for replies.....

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi all
Beacon active on 1835 khz sending 160m exp beacon reply HOTMAIL.COM,
language appears to be spanish.
Does anyone know where this is located.
No callsign
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Mike - both on 137 and 500 the Icom R75 is really rather good both in sensi=
tivity and selectivity and is still my receiver of choice. With or without =
the TXCO its reasonably stable down at LF - I still like the TXCO option wh=
en Im in the tropics or polar climes
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The TS870S does have the attenuator inserted just LF of 500KHz but given my=
 s/n and drive levels from the antennae systems it is as good as the R75's =
except no 1Hz readout. On 137KHz it is less sensitive but at my rx drive le=
vels outside noise levels are higher and it doesnt make a hoot of differenc=
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I still (much) prefer the TS870 over the TS850 both in noise blanking and r=
eceiver performance on large antennae - honest its given clean copy on Argo=
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on ZL tests.
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The SDR IQ is pretty good too but Im still getting to grips with the ins an=
d outs of its performance and its really too soon for me to comment. Its no=
t that stable up on HF per se - it it warms up with a around 4Hz shift in a=
bout 15 mins but once it gets there its ok - when you divide down on 500 an=
d 137Khz its fine. Ill have more experience over the next few weeks as its =
going to be the only RX Im going to use in KL7
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'>Mike - both on 137 and 500 the Icom R75 is really=
 rather good both in sensitivity and selectivity and is still my receiver o=
f choice. With or without the TXCO its reasonably stable down at LF - I sti=
ll like the TXCO option when Im in the tropics or polar climes<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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The TS870S does have the attenuator inserted just LF of 500KHz but given my=
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except no 1Hz readout. On 137KHz it is less sensitive but at my rx drive le=
vels outside noise levels are higher and it doesnt make a hoot of differenc=
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I still (much)&nbsp;prefer the TS870 over the TS850 both in noise blanking =
and receiver performance on large antennae - honest its given clean copy on=
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side on ZL tests.<BR>
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The SDR IQ is pretty good too but Im still getting to grips with the ins an=
d outs of its performance and its really too soon for me to comment. Its no=
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bout 15 mins but once it gets there its ok - when you divide down on 500 an=
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Despite the high noise level best copy ever of the 10wpm CW signal
from WD2XSH/17 on 507.75 kHz about 01:35. The QRSS3 signal from
WE2XGR/2 was visible 01:00-03:00 on 506.5 kHz.

>From the UK I copied G4WGT (DFCW), G3WCB (QRSS3 and CW), G3XIZ (DFCW)
and G0MRF (QRSS3).

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Also uploaded the captures from the 12/13th. Sorry not enough time
yesterday.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hello Dave,

It's not, but a very respectical reception antenna which does not require a 
lot of real estate.
I build one once and the signal to noise ratio is incredible.

Just have a look at:

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or search the web.

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Dr Hartmut,

Thank you for the reception report's , that was a usefull night's tx test , 
oddly it looks like the earthing system is more important that the above 
ground wire !

Tnx - Graham

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> 137kHz: Traces of WD2XNS 01:00-03:05. The signal shows a lot of rapid
> and deep fading.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
> 500kHz: Copied G0NBD in 5wpm CW, QRSS3, QRSS1. The CW at the end of
> the transmission was a bit to fast for my CW screen. Which is
> optimized for 5-10wpm.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
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> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
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In a message dated 10/09/2007 10:32:44 GMT Standard Time,  
g3kev.ham@virgin.net writes:

Hi  all
3B7C active early evening/night on 1822 khz. I worked him daylight  at
1821utc.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



Well done Mal.
 
That must be quite a pile up only 3 days into the Dxpedition
 
David



   

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Hi all
3B7C active early evening/night on 1822 khz. I worked him daylight at
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73 de Mal/G3KEV




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 Hi Ed, Hartmut

Thanks for reports
I have new antenna.

Dmitry
ra3yo

dl2hre wrote:

> ge LF.
>  
> just captured UA4WPF(qrss60) and RA3YO(qrss30, later qrss60) on abt 
> 137.778KHz.
> capture at 2042utc
> RA3YO allways readable in qrss3-mode.
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> 73 Ed DL2HRE
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&nbsp;Hi Ed, Hartmut<br>
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Thanks for reports<br>
I have new antenna.<br>
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Dmitry<br>
ra3yo<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">ge LF.</font></div>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">just captured UA4WPF(qrss60) and
RA3YO(qrss30, later qrss60) on abt 137.778KHz.</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">capture at 2042utc</font></div>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">73 Ed DL2HRE</font></div>
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ge LF.

just captured UA4WPF(qrss60) and RA3YO(qrss30, later qrss60) on abt =
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capture at 2042utc
RA3YO allways readable in qrss3-mode.

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Hi Wim

My locator is KO73dg

73

Dmitry
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> Hello om ra3yo
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> We are looking for your qth locater
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> So we can measure the distance  between us.pse.
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> Best 73s wim pa3ego
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Jean-Pierre, Henny,

Thanks to both of you, and to Brian for the reports from last night. 
There was a lot of deep fading, but the peak signal levels seemed good. 
I will try to start earlier tonight.

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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES 01:15 => 05:00 (good period 01:15 => 02:30)

the captures of night are at :
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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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Mike,

Trust you are keeping well.

I use an HF multiband quad on the LF bands by using the quad and feeder 
fed against ground using an ATU.
This arrangement also works on 500kHz with a gain of aproximately 
-20dBi. This setup would be no good on 136kHz
It works fine on receive but I havent tried it with a transmitter as yet 
but I feel confident that it would work with the current ERP restrictions..
I have a photos of the antenna and the ATU plus an analysis plot of 
matching using the AIM1740.
Are you interested?

Peter, G3LDO
> I am producing a new edition of my book "LF Today" in conjunction 
> with Jim, M0BMU. This edition will also cover the experimental 
> "500kHz" allocation and I am looking for illustrations.
>
> If anyone has photographs of their 500kHz stations, antennas, 
> matching systems, portable operation etc, please send them to my 
> direct e-mail address below (not through this reflector). Of course, 
> any pictures of 136kHz stations would also be useful. Please state 
> the band when sending the picture.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
> =====================
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I am producing a new edition of my book "LF Today" in conjunction 
with Jim, M0BMU. This edition will also cover the experimental 
"500kHz" allocation and I am looking for illustrations.

If anyone has photographs of their 500kHz stations, antennas, 
matching systems, portable operation etc, please send them to my 
direct e-mail address below (not through this reflector). Of course, 
any pictures of 136kHz stations would also be useful. Please state 
the band when sending the picture.

Thanks in advance.

Mike, G3XDV
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Mike G3XDV

My TS850 performs well at 500Kc/s and the modification at 
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attenuator is a simple one taking a few minutes. It is even simpler than 
described because at Stage 9, you do NOT need to remove the RF board. Simply 
solder a jumper on the track side of the board.

73
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Hi,

Running DFCW02 beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz with 9wpm CW ID, 50 mW ERP,
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Hi, Karl-Heinz.

Yes, that is my signal on 503.750. I estimate the distance to be about 495
km. My antenna is a centre-fed 20m "tee" with a double top wire at 6m
height.

Thanks for the nice report.

Thanks also to Graham G8FZK for the report.

 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM near Windsor, S.E England.
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Hi Dave,

looks like i receive your beacon in JO31HS with  qsb.

http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0709132337.jpg

also on screenshoot:

DI2AM, DI2AG, OK0EMW

Receiver: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Antenna: MiniWHIP with OP27 12m high

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


Dave G3WCB schrieb:
> G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW
ERP
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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Hi Dave,

looks like i receive your beacon in JO31HS with  qsb.

http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0709132337.jpg

also on screenshoot:

DI2AM, DI2AG, OK0EMW

Receiver: Teletron TE 704C-F/FS
Antenna: MiniWHIP with OP27 12m high

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


Dave G3WCB schrieb:
> G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW ERP
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW ERP

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Like the first edition, it is an RSGB publication and will be 
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Mike
===


On 5 Sep 2007 at 7:50, Dr. Tom Gruis wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> I trust we'll know when and where to get a copy of your book when it
> becomes available....
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Doc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> I am producing a new edition of my book "LF Today" in conjunction with
> Jim, M0BMU. This edition will also cover the experimental "500kHz"
> allocation and I am looking for illustrations.
> 
> If anyone has photographs of their 500kHz stations, antennas, 
> matching systems, portable operation etc, please send them to my
> direct e-mail address below (not through this reflector). Of course,
> any pictures of 136kHz stations would also be useful. Please state the
> band when sending the picture.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
> mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
> =====================
> 
> 
> 





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On 5 Sep 2007 at 7:50, Dr. Tom Gruis wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> I trust we'll know when and where to get a copy of your book when it
> becomes available....
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Doc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dennison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 07:40 To:
> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz photos?
> 
> I am producing a new edition of my book "LF Today" in conjunction with
> Jim, M0BMU. This edition will also cover the experimental "500kHz"
> allocation and I am looking for illustrations.
> 
> If anyone has photographs of their 500kHz stations, antennas, 
> matching systems, portable operation etc, please send them to my
> direct e-mail address below (not through this reflector). Of course,
> any pictures of 136kHz stations would also be useful. Please state the
> band when sending the picture.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
> mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
> =====================
> 
> 
> 





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Mike,

I trust we'll know when and where to get a copy of your book when it becomes
available....

Thank you,

Doc.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dennison
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 07:40
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500kHz photos?

I am producing a new edition of my book "LF Today" in conjunction 
with Jim, M0BMU. This edition will also cover the experimental 
"500kHz" allocation and I am looking for illustrations.

If anyone has photographs of their 500kHz stations, antennas, 
matching systems, portable operation etc, please send them to my 
direct e-mail address below (not through this reflector). Of course, 
any pictures of 136kHz stations would also be useful. Please state 
the band when sending the picture.

Thanks in advance.

Mike, G3XDV
mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
=====================




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Hello John Hartmut and Gary.
 
Good signals all round this evening.  Power here is apx 77mW and  not the 
usual 5mW but need to check that later.  Did try to monitor  but noise levels 
went from S2 to S7 when the neighbours arrived home at 6pm. -  Oh the joys of 
urban living.
 
Thanks for the reports everyone.
 
David  IO91TK
 
 
In a message dated 31/08/2007 22:23:04 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On Sat,  1 Sep 2007 00:12:40 +0200
Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>  wrote:

> Nice signals! Screenshot attached.
> 
>  73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:  JO52hp


Finbar seems to be stuck in beacon mode so I'm trying 10  minutes of
QRSS3 on around 503.8

will QRT at 2230UTC

John  







   

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Dear LF enthusiasts,
this is some info from Bob ZL2CA

This is a forwarded message
From: Vernall <vernall@xtra.co.nz>
To: Ed Lesnichy <ed@dx.ru>
Date: Sunday, September 9, 2007, 11:16:49 PM
Subject: 22 & 23 September ZM2E

===8<==============Original message text===============
Ed RU6LA,

Confirming we will have ZM2E operating 22/23 September.  We have a slightly 
better antenna, added top loading.  I've been busy on "other things" and 
Mike has been progressing arrangements for ZM2E to try to work stateside 
stations in 160 - 190 kHz for the first part of the ZL night, then ZM2E will 
QSY for Russian stations around 137 kHz.  We can receive OK for 137 to 190 
kHz, the QSY is for ZM2E tx frequency.

We can exchange further email before 22 September.  Comments at this time 
are:
- we are sharing Quartz Hill with others operating HF, so we can not offer 
HF liaision
- there is no internet at Quartz Hill, we can visit my QTH during the day to 
check reflectors and email.
- the "beacon method" for LF QSO attempt is thought to be the appropriate 
basis for all stations in the 22/23 September LF DX event
- the 137 kHz frequencies used last time are proposed to be be "repeated" 
this time
- we are still finalising what frequencies within 160 - 190 to use for 
stateside, but that will not impact R6L, ZM2E will QSY to 137778.0/137778.2 
kHz once we have bagged enough USA QSOs :-)
- this is probably the last time for LF at Quartz Hill
- I will resubscribe to the RSGB LF reflector this week, please include my 
private email in any "bulletin" distribution
- I leave it to you to do other EU beaconing and tests after our path has 
sunrise at ZM2E

73, Bob ZL2CA

===8<===========End of original message text===========

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru



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Jay,

> The 'fuzz' in front of the 'X' is the 12 wpm cw id. By the looks of your capture
> it might be strong enough to be audible.

On the "5wpm screen" the dashes of the QRSS signal are just visible
but nothing more.

> Warren normally uses 506.3 so will have to find a frequency of my own. Are there any frequencies to
> avoid due to interference on your end?

Last night I had 3 carriers  between 505.99-506.01, on 506.75 I captured
something but not sure what it was and if this is a steady signal.
Around 507 are some NDBs.


73
Hartmut
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Hartmut

Nice work! Only had the transmitter in QRSS3 mode for a short period of time as a test and you
managed to snag it! The 'fuzz' in front of the 'X' is the 12 wpm cw id. By the looks of your capture
it might be strong enough to be audible.

Warren normally uses 506.3 so will have to find a frequency of my own. Are there any frequencies to
avoid due to interference on your end?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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> Copied WD2XSH/17 in 10wpm CW at about 01:15 last night. This was my
> first CW copy of a experimental station across the pond on 500kHz.
>
> On 506.3 KHz brief copy of WE2XGR/2 in QRSS3 at 00:55. This is
> another first for me.
>
> From the UK I copied GI4DPE, GW4HXO in CW and G0MRF in QRSS3.
>
> Captures and signal plots can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>



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John,

 Just see you on the top of the trace , not too strong , but can read the
 'cw' , oddly just peaking the same as g0mrf


 IO 83 LK
Graham





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> Just see you on the top of the trace , not too strong , but can read the 
> 'cw' , oddly just peaking the same as g0mrf
>

> IO 83 LK
> > Graham
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:12:40 +0200
>> Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice signals! Screenshot attached.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Hartmut
>>> www.h-wolff.de
>>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>> Finbar seems to be stuck in beacon mode so I'm trying 10 minutes of
>> QRSS3 on around 503.8
>>
>> will QRT at 2230UTC
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Showing well in wallasey , spot on frequency , unless radio 4 has moved :-) 
, just fading at  22-30 local time .

Graham



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> G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW 
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Hi Dave,

Your signal OK here in NW, just audible at times, noticable QSB.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:45 PM
Subject: LF: [500] G3WCB Beacon


> G3WCB is in beacon mode 503.750 QRSS3 + 9WPM CW id until 2230 UTC. 50 mW 
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Mike.
I use a Datong up converter UC/1 IF 144 mhz IF out to an IC - 746. This set
up  works well and does not suffer from any crossmod etc.

Other RX's that work well are Hagenuk BLU EE 430 designed to work from
10khz - 30 mhz. (marine commercial RX) with Datong FL3 audio filter.

Level meter SIEMENS D2155

73 de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Thanks to those who have so far provided input for the new edition of
> LF Today.
>
> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at
> 500kHz?
>
> My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the
> attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band.
> So what is your experience?
>
> Thanks in advance for any data.
>
> de Mike, G3XDV
> ============
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I make do  with my RA6790-GM , with  vlf front end , main problem is the 
silly membrain keys are a bit hard on the digits , Got the pre-amp,  but 
never fitted it as it dosent need it , No rf amp , Bit querky , the agc 
action is so precise that the audio level remains the same and the 
background noise level changes with signal  Other than that it just dose 
what it says on the label , or would , if some one in the US gov hadent 
removed the label before it was sold ... :-0)

G ..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Thanks to those who have so far provided input for the new edition of
> LF Today.
>
> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at
> 500kHz?
>
> My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the
> attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band.
> So what is your experience?
>
> Thanks in advance for any data.
>
> de Mike, G3XDV
> ============
>
>
>
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Hello Dave,

Excellent performance is provided by the AR7030.
However its user interface does not please averyone, to say the least.
The Icom R75 is the most popular receiver amongst NDB chasers.
Almost the same performance is availble with the IC718.
This is no coincidence as it is an offspring of a commercial transceiver 
(IC78) aimed at the marine market. (Ask Finbar, EI0CF, he owns one).
JRC receivers are also good performers at LF; e.g. the NRD535.
I own a NRD-91 which tunes down to 10 kHz and is very sensitive.

The W&G SPM-30 SLM is also nice when you like the narrow 24 Hz filter.
Some people are experimenting with a modified SoftRock design SDR and are 
achieving amazing results.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
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David, Gary, John and LF,
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Hi Graham,

The station on 501.525 KHz seems to have moved up a little to 501.535 KHz. I 
can just decode the call with my new headphones & homebuilt CW filter. It is 
Mike GW4HXO.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Seeing a low cw signal   501.525 , gw3uep ? too low to copy by ear .. 
> keying speed bit fast for decoding by spectrum plot
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> can anyone confirm ?
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> Tnx - Graham ..
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MODE CHANGE   0005  LOCAL , PSKAM10

PROG IN USE - MULTIEPSK-

G ..


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> Running  QPSK  data stream on  503.2 KHz
> will be on till approx  24:00  local time
> Reports welcome
> Tnx - Graham
>
> G0NBD -  IO83LK
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Hello the list,

The FCC issued WE2XGR September 5 with the following specifications:
   Power 200 Watts ERP
   Frequency 505-515 khz
   Modes cw, ssb, and every data mode I could think of
   Term 5 Years (expires Sept 1 2012)

    The stations are:

WE2XGR/1 => K2ORS
WE2XGR/2 => W1VD
WE2XGR/3 => W1TAG
WE2XGR/4 => Bill Ashlock in Andover, MA (no ham call)
WE2XGR/5 => Bill Ashlock  in Ellsworth,NH
WE2XGR/6 => W2ZM

   There is also the possibility of operating mobile within a 300kM radius of my 
QTH.

    Should be able to work U.K.  and EU with this kind of power!
--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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JB

Thanks for the report! XNS's move to 137.776 is only temporary - operation will resume on 137.781
soon.

Jay


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> Hello Jay, LFers,
> 
> It's nice to see XNS has returned to the airwaves after a summer
> of being absent from my screen!  I got this nice capture just as I
> was headed off to bed.
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
> 
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
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Hello Jay, LFers,

It's nice to see XNS has returned to the airwaves after a summer
of being absent from my screen!  I got this nice capture just as I
was headed off to bed.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle


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Hi LF,

My thanks to Hartmut for capture & plot from last night & thanks to John 
GM4SLV for reports also thanks to Dave & John for running their grabbers.

I see that Ko had his grabber on last night, I hope he will continue & 
hopefully monitor the UK beacons as well, these grabbers are very useful 
tools, thanks to Ko in anticipation.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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> David, Gary, John and LF,
> Attached a signal strength plot 21:45-22:35
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:48:14 +0200
"Jose Manuel" <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:

> Hello all,
>=20
> I=B4ve just copied CW QSO=B4s on 502.5 kHz, very strong Mal and Finbar,
> but signals from John, GM4SLV,  were audible too, 1938 km path.
>=20
> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

Jos=E9!

Thank you for the great report. Conditions here in the very far north
were poor tonight - much QRN - but it seems further south you copied
much better!

That must be my best DX so far. Thank you!

73 de John
GM4SLV
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Hi Hartmut, LF,

That is a good capture of my 1 mW beacon, thanks for the grab. Conditions 
are up tonight !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Nice signals! Screenshot attached.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
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137kHz: Traces of WD2XNS 01:00-03:05. The signal shows a lot of rapid
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Captures can be seen here:
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500kHz: Copied G0NBD in 5wpm CW, QRSS3, QRSS1. The CW at the end of
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Captures can be seen here:
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Hi John,

Thanks for the offer. I did in fact get a copy from your grabber because it 
came back on later. I could see that the grabber was showing your own 
transmission for a while & it was during this that I was conducting power 
level tests. Have a look at my results at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page11.html

Cheers,

Gary.


----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
> Hi Gary, LF,
>
>
> Can you give me a date/time and I'll have a look at what I've got. As
> long as I wasn't using the RX for something else there should be
> something in the archives!
>
> Every capture is stored in a seperate folder each day, automagically
> and I can easily rummage through.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:31:08 +0100 "Gary -
> G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John, LF,
>>
>> Thanks for report, I have missed getting a copy from your grabber of
>> my 1 mW signal, do you have a saved capture for my archives ?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: G4WGT 503.6
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:53 +0100
>> > "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi John, LF,
>> >>
>> >> Its quite amazing how low I can go & still see a trace.
>> >>
>> >> I am going down to about 1 mW ERP from 2155utc.
>> >>
>> >> 73
>> >>
>> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>> >
>> >
>> > Looking pretty good Gary!
>> >
>> > I can now see G0MRF on 503.7 too!
>> >
>> > Finbar is pretty strong on 502.6ish - waiting for him to come out of
>> > beacon mode for our sked. Conditions must be quite good tonight
>> >
>> > John
>> > GM4SLV
>> > IP90gg
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
> Member : RSGB, ARRL
> Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
> Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org
>
> 



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Hi Gary, LF,


Can you give me a date/time and I'll have a look at what I've got. As
long as I wasn't using the RX for something else there should be
something in the archives!

Every capture is stored in a seperate folder each day, automagically
and I can easily rummage through.

Cheers,

John


 On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:31:08 +0100 "Gary -
G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> Thanks for report, I have missed getting a copy from your grabber of
> my 1 mW signal, do you have a saved capture for my archives ?
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: G4WGT 503.6
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:53 +0100
> > "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John, LF,
> >>
> >> Its quite amazing how low I can go & still see a trace.
> >>
> >> I am going down to about 1 mW ERP from 2155utc.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> >
> >
> > Looking pretty good Gary!
> >
> > I can now see G0MRF on 503.7 too!
> >
> > Finbar is pretty strong on 502.6ish - waiting for him to come out of
> > beacon mode for our sked. Conditions must be quite good tonight
> >
> > John
> > GM4SLV
> > IP90gg
> >
> > 
> 
> 


-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Hi John, LF,

Thanks for report, I have missed getting a copy from your grabber of my 1 mW 
signal, do you have a saved capture for my archives ?

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:53 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John, LF,
>>
>> Its quite amazing how low I can go & still see a trace.
>>
>> I am going down to about 1 mW ERP from 2155utc.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
> Looking pretty good Gary!
>
> I can now see G0MRF on 503.7 too!
>
> Finbar is pretty strong on 502.6ish - waiting for him to come out of
> beacon mode for our sked. Conditions must be quite good tonight
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> IP90gg
>
> 



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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:53 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> Its quite amazing how low I can go & still see a trace.
> 
> I am going down to about 1 mW ERP from 2155utc.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


Looking pretty good Gary!

I can now see G0MRF on 503.7 too!

Finbar is pretty strong on 502.6ish - waiting for him to come out of
beacon mode for our sked. Conditions must be quite good tonight

John
GM4SLV
IP90gg


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Hi John, LF,

Its quite amazing how low I can go & still see a trace.

I am going down to about 1 mW ERP from 2155utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:21:25 +0100
> "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi LF,
>> 
>> Beacon power reduced to 10mW erp from 2125utc.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> 
> Still there!
> 
> How low can you go?
> 
> John GM4SLV
> IP90gg
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>


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Ok Tnx Chris,

I'll leave it running till abt 2400 local ,=20

Tnx for the reports ,   200 miles  over land ?=20

Rgds

Graham ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris McCarthy=20
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  Graham,did see your PSK transmission about 20% copy but nothing =
resolved of your QPSK,  your signal is slowly fading in and out of =
background noise .
  Signal level is lower now at 2315 than when first spotted at 2245 bst. =


  Chris G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk)




  On 07/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:=20
    MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31

    TNX

    Graham


    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    > PSK DATA STREAM 503.2 KHz
    >
    > Hi All,
    >
    > Called cq   502  few times , nothing 'seen'
    >
    > Running data test PSK31 ,  Rx reports welcome , should be running =
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    > 2300 / 2400 Hrs
    >
    > Tnx
    >
    > Graham
    >
    > G0NBD - IO83LK
    >
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    >
    > --
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    >








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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok Tnx Chris,</FONT></DIV>
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I seen gold plated Slinky's on some website.

Mike
WE0H

k2ors wrote:
> Hello the list,
> 
> Has anyone considered a 'Slinky' Beverage for 500kHz? 

For those not familiar a 'Slinky' is a toy spring approx 8cm in diameter.

Stretch out the 'Slinky'  (or several 'Slinkys in series) and

you have an inductively loaded Beverage, a way of shortening the antenna 
mechanically.
> 
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> 
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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Hello all,

Thanks for the various responses,

I have a single slinky somewhere around the shack - bought for 
experimenting with helical loading. I think I might need a few more to 
get the electrical length needed for 500khz.


John


On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, k2ors@comcast.net wrote:

> Hello the list,
> 
>           Has anyone considered a 'Slinky' Beverage for 500kHz? For 
> those not familiar a 'Slinky' is a toy spring approx 8cm in diameter. 
> Stretch out the 'Slinky' (or several 'Slinkys in series) and you have 
> an inductively loaded Beverage, a way of shortening the antenna 
> mechanically.
> 
> 


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Hello Warren,

My guess is that an EWE should also be a likely candidate for 500 kHz 
reception.

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Hello the list,

          Has anyone considered a 'Slinky' Beverage for 500kHz? For those not familiar a 'Slinky' is a toy spring approx 8cm in diameter. Stretch out the 'Slinky'  (or several 'Slinkys in series) and you have an inductively loaded Beverage, a way of shortening the antenna mechanically.


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
> Hello John,
> 
> I don't know if these are available at your location, but some NDB-chasers 
> achieve excellent results using fences. I have tried this myself on a 5000 
> feet long fence once and the results were spectacular, though the beamwidth 
> was very narrow. I used a 9:1 rf-transformer and a simple ground stake.
> 
> Many MW DX-ers use BOGs and report excellent results
> You may find this story interesting:
> 
> http://www.dxing.info/dxpeditions/easter_island_2007.dx
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Hello Lubos,

i have send you my Adress via E-mail.

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137kHz: RA3YO copied 18:50-20:30

A capture can be seen here:
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500kHZ: Copied G0MRF in CW and QRSS3 on 503.7kHz. G3XIZ copied on
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Mike,

I did see a couple of transmission 'block's'  mid band on the spectrum =
plot , late on but looks like i only caught the end of them .. what =
frequency did you call on ?

I was running the final tests on the exciter/linea so should be back on =
'tx' shortly , hopefully with a better signal ..=20

Graham=20

G0NBD / IO83LK=20

NB :  (Ex G8FZK , I did have g0nbd@g0nbd ...  , but ended up  with so =
much 'spam' mail I changed to my 1972 call ... which is now starting to =
fill up :-( )...
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Probert=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:18 AM
  Subject: LF: 500kHz beacon


  Many thanks to all who sent reports on my beacon last night-namely  =
G8FZK, G4WGT, GM4SLV and Hartmut Wolff.

  I called CQ for about =BD hour  after closing the beacon ( and the =
previous evening ) -No responses

  =20

  73

  =20

  Mike GW4HXO.



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  No virus found in this incoming message.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did see a couple of transmission =
'block's'&nbsp;=20
mid band on the spectrum plot ,&nbsp;late on but looks like i only =
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end of them .. what frequency did you call on ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was running the final tests on the =
exciter/linea=20
so should be back on 'tx' shortly , hopefully with a better signal ..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD / IO83LK </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NB :&nbsp; (Ex G8FZK , I did have <A=20
href=3D"mailto:g0nbd@g0nbd">g0nbd@g0nbd</A> ... &nbsp;, but ended =
up&nbsp; with so=20
much 'spam' mail I changed to my 1972 call ... which is now starting to =
fill up=20
:-( )...</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 02, =
2007 11:18=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500kHz =
beacon</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
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sent=20
  reports on my beacon last night-namely&nbsp; G8FZK, G4WGT, GM4SLV and =
Hartmut=20
  Wolff.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
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Hi J.B.,

    Thanks for the inquiry. We have been on since the first day WE2XGR issued (September 5)!   WE2XGR/1, WE2XGR/2, and WE2XGR/6 have all been on multiple times, mostly cw on 506.3 with WE2XGR/2 on cw and QRSS 3 on 506.5. WE2XGR/2 has been copied in Germany on at least two occasions. 
 
   WE2XGR/1 and WE2XGR/6 are working on multi-kilowatt amplifiers, while WE2XGR/2 is already running 400 watts out. 

    You will see numerous WE2XGR reception reports on www.500kc.com .
    

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
> Hi Warren,
> 
> When do you expect to hit the airwaves with this new call and
> higher power on the 600 meter band?  Any idea of the exact
> frequency you'll be using for QRSS or other "beacon type"
> transmissions?  I'll be awaiting for the first capture here!
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
> 
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
> 
> 
> 



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Hi Warren,

When do you expect to hit the airwaves with this new call and
higher power on the 600 meter band?  Any idea of the exact
frequency you'll be using for QRSS or other "beacon type"
transmissions?  I'll be awaiting for the first capture here!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Mal,

      Thanks for the good words, I believe it was one of your comments that emboldened me to ask for 200W erp.
Bob W2ZM  (WE2XGR/6) is currently working on a 4CX10,000 amplifier for 500 kHz (and LF as well). I'm  working a solid state amp that should deliver 1.2-1.5 kW output for WE2XGR/1, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jay (WE2XGR/2) has some big secret project in the works.

     Listen for us this Fall/Winter!


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
> With this sort of power it would certainly be sufficient to be heard in EU.
> This sort of erp would be difficult to generate, depending on the antenna
> efficiency it could take a Kw or so to achieve this.
> Assume an antenna efficiency of 5% with a good antenna at this freq it would
> take 4kw to get 200w erp !!!!!!
> 73 and GL to all on 500 in the USA and look fwd to hearing some of these
> signals soon.
> de Mal/G3KEV
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k2ors@comcast.net>
> To: "rsgb lf reflector" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; "rsgb lf reflector"
> <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:49 PM
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> 
> 
> >
> > Hello the list,
> >
> > The FCC issued WE2XGR September 5 with the following specifications:
> >    Power 200 Watts ERP
> >    Frequency 505-515 khz
> >    Modes cw, ssb, and every data mode I could think of
> >    Term 5 Years (expires Sept 1 2012)
> >
> >     The stations are:
> >
> > WE2XGR/1 => K2ORS
> > WE2XGR/2 => W1VD
> > WE2XGR/3 => W1TAG
> > WE2XGR/4 => Bill Ashlock in Andover, MA (no ham call)
> > WE2XGR/5 => Bill Ashlock  in Ellsworth,NH
> > WE2XGR/6 => W2ZM
> >
> >    There is also the possibility of operating mobile within a 300kM radius
> of my
> > QTH.
> >
> >     Should be able to work U.K.  and EU with this kind of power!
> > --
> > 73 Warren K2ORS
> > WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> > WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> > WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> > WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
> >
> > FN42hi
> > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
> >
> 
> 



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With this sort of power it would certainly be sufficient to be heard in EU.
This sort of erp would be difficult to generate, depending on the antenna
efficiency it could take a Kw or so to achieve this.
Assume an antenna efficiency of 5% with a good antenna at this freq it would
take 4kw to get 200w erp !!!!!!
73 and GL to all on 500 in the USA and look fwd to hearing some of these
signals soon.
de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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>
> Hello the list,
>
> The FCC issued WE2XGR September 5 with the following specifications:
>    Power 200 Watts ERP
>    Frequency 505-515 khz
>    Modes cw, ssb, and every data mode I could think of
>    Term 5 Years (expires Sept 1 2012)
>
>     The stations are:
>
> WE2XGR/1 => K2ORS
> WE2XGR/2 => W1VD
> WE2XGR/3 => W1TAG
> WE2XGR/4 => Bill Ashlock in Andover, MA (no ham call)
> WE2XGR/5 => Bill Ashlock  in Ellsworth,NH
> WE2XGR/6 => W2ZM
>
>    There is also the possibility of operating mobile within a 300kM radius
of my
> QTH.
>
>     Should be able to work U.K.  and EU with this kind of power!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
> WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
> WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
> WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz
>
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>



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Beacon , quite loud on ls , 559 max , would be good  cw qso strenght

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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:43:02 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> EWE - is that a sheep?
> 

And there was me trying desperately not to say that!

Given that the greatest problem I have with antennas is sheep.....

> 
> BTW, RST 559 copy of GM4SLV on Wednesday evening, during the tests
> with Finbar. Best signal yet, some QSB, no QRN.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Thanks Dave, 

That was one of the better nights recently, not too much QRN and signal
strenghts reasonable. Nice to know I was getting to Slough too...

We called CQ hoping to draw any listeners in, but no joy again. Perhaps
you should call in if you're hearing either of us.

Cheers,

John
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EWE - is that a sheep?

I use a 1.8m square 2-turn loop "stealth" RX antenna at my alternate QTH in
Devon. It is series tuned with a 1.8 nF capacitor, and it receives very
well. The bottom leg is very near the ground, and I am considering lying it
on its
side to get omni-directional reception (= "LOG"?)  ;-)

The ground conductivity is very poor, so it might well work.

BTW, RST 559 copy of GM4SLV on Wednesday evening, during the tests with
Finbar. Best signal yet, some QSB, no QRN.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


-----Original Message-----
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Hello Warren,

My guess is that an EWE should also be a likely candidate for 500 kHz
reception.

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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A "BOG" was used to receive LF (189.81 kHz) signals from VO while in
FP land (275 km) this summer.  Nothing was heard on a 30 cm loop but
when wires were connected across the loop primary, the signals could be
clearly copied by ear.  The wires were deployed on the ground along the
reception path axis and were only about 25 metres long each.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Hello John,

I don't know if these are available at your location, but some NDB-chasers 
achieve excellent results using fences. I have tried this myself on a 5000 
feet long fence once and the results were spectacular, though the beamwidth 
was very narrow. I used a 9:1 rf-transformer and a simple ground stake.

Many MW DX-ers use BOGs and report excellent results
You may find this story interesting:

http://www.dxing.info/dxpeditions/easter_island_2007.dx

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Hello Group,
According to the Services Textbook of Radio, the Beverage is one of the few 
aerials which works best over ground of poor conductivity. This is because 
the wavefront is slowed down near the partially conducting ground and "tips 
forward" and develops a horisontal component. The ratio of the horisontal to 
vertical components is about 2% over good soil and 8% over poor ground, 
giving an angle of tilt between 1 and 4 degrees. As far as I can see it has 
very little to do with the height of the wire above ground, much more to do 
with the length of the wire.

Any ground radials for other aerial will probably have a bad effect as it 
will reduce ground resistance.
It says it makes a very inefficient transmitting aerial.

I made a scale model of a Beverage and tried it at 2m, just as an 
experiment. It was about 2.5 metres long, The thin wire was glued to the 
side of a wooden batten, and there were earth spikes at each end with the 
load resistors. I picked up local repeaters with it, and it was definately 
directional, but obviously several S points down on a 1/4 wave. Finding flat 
enough bit of ground in the garden was a problem !

I wish I had a sheep field to make a big one in. Hope it works well.
73
Hugh M0WYE



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> At 01:28 a.m. 7/09/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi LF gang,
>>
>>In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we
>>discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done
>>a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well.
>>
>>I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields
>>being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is
>>attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge
>>beside the road - I'm in a very rural area.
>>
>>Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?
>>
>>John
>>Gm4SLV
>
> Hello John and the LF Group,
>
> A few years ago, Robert, VK7ZAL made regular expeditions to a remote site 
> near Hobart in Tasmania and listened for our ZL gang who were transmitting 
> on 181.4 kHz. He ran out a couple of hundred metres or so of insulated 
> wire, over the ground and bushes, pointed towards ZL, and connected to an 
> antenna tuner that fed his receiver. I should also add that the far end 
> was unterminated. Allowing for the wavelength, this short "Beverage" 
> worked very well.
> I have copies of recordings made by Robert and was surprised by the very 
> good reception at his end [audible CW].
>
> At John's "remote" site I believe that a 200m BOG would be well worth a 
> try on 500kHz.
>
> Perhaps I should add that we have not yet achieved any access to the 500 
> kHz zone in ZL land. However, we have open access, all modes, all the way, 
> from 130 through to 190 Khz. The other good news is that the "power line 
> carriers", radiated from high-voltage power lines, have nearly all gone. 
> In the past, they made some parts of the LF spectrum quite unusable. We 
> just need a few more LF participants.
>
> 73,
>
> Kevin, ZL4MD
>
>
>
> 



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Hello Kevin and LFers,

> A few years ago, Robert, VK7ZAL made regular expeditions to a remote site near
> Hobart in Tasmania and listened for our ZL gang who were transmitting on 181.4
> kHz. He ran out a couple of hundred metres or so of insulated wire, over the
> ground and bushes, pointed towards ZL, and connected to an antenna tuner that
> fed his receiver. I should also add that the far end was unterminated.
> Allowing for the wavelength, this short "Beverage" worked very well.
> I have copies of recordings made by Robert and was surprised by the very good
> reception at his end [audible CW].
> 


Thanks for the information about these ground mounted antennas. I've 
always thought of trying one so perhaps now is the time.


> At John's "remote" site I believe that a 200m BOG would be well worth a try on
> 500kHz.
> 

I believe Finbar uses 120m and  100m versions. Fed via transformers, but 
unterminated at the distant ends. A good tuneable pre-amp seems 
necessary - I built one this week, but intend a Mark 2 version soon.


I am surronded by fields - with sheep in them - so laying out a wire 
100-200m long shouldn't be a problem - although preventing sheep 
predation might be. They quickly ate through a radial wire from my 
500kHz TX antenna that I'd run along "their side" of a stone wall!

I'll try to lay out some wire over the weekend and report my findings. 


This 500kHz access is leading my along several new paths all at once and 
it's hard to keep up!

Cheers,

John



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At 01:28 a.m. 7/09/2007, you wrote:
>Hi LF gang,
>
>In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we
>discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done
>a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well.
>
>I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields
>being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is
>attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge
>beside the road - I'm in a very rural area.
>
>Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?
>
>John
>Gm4SLV

Hello John and the LF Group,

A few years ago, Robert, VK7ZAL made regular expeditions to a remote 
site near Hobart in Tasmania and listened for our ZL gang who were 
transmitting on 181.4 kHz. He ran out a couple of hundred metres or 
so of insulated wire, over the ground and bushes, pointed towards ZL, 
and connected to an antenna tuner that fed his receiver. I should 
also add that the far end was unterminated. Allowing for the 
wavelength, this short "Beverage" worked very well.
I have copies of recordings made by Robert and was surprised by the 
very good reception at his end [audible CW].

At John's "remote" site I believe that a 200m BOG would be well worth 
a try on 500kHz.

Perhaps I should add that we have not yet achieved any access to the 
500 kHz zone in ZL land. However, we have open access, all modes, all 
the way, from 130 through to 190 Khz. The other good news is that the 
"power line carriers", radiated from high-voltage power lines, have 
nearly all gone. In the past, they made some parts of the LF spectrum 
quite unusable. We just need a few more LF participants.

73,

Kevin, ZL4MD





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Well, it's one stage better than the AOG (Act of God) - a 1920s and 30s=
 abbreviation used on QSL cards and meaning "This bit of wire works but I=
 don't know why".

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On 06/09/2007 at 14:28 John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

>Hi LF gang,
>
>In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we 
>discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done 
>a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well.
>
>I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields 
>being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is 
>attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge 
>beside the road - I'm in a very rural area.
>
>Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?
>
>John
>Gm4SLV







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"John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
> Hi LF gang,
> 
> In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we 
> discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done 
> a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well.
> 
> I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields 
> being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is 
> attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge 
> beside the road - I'm in a very rural area.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?
> 
> John
> Gm4SLV
> 
> 
Dear John,

in my available space in my garden I have not yet considered to try a
beverage antenna. 

But I receive all VLF to MF signals (including the german DI-beacons
with an ERP of more than one watt) audible, using a simple untuned
vertical one turn wire loop of just 15 meters circumference, pointing to
the north, the lower wire being 2 meters above ground (so that it is no
obstacle when my wife is walking in the garden). I regard the reactive
impedance XL of this loop (which is dependent on frequency, of course)
as source resistance and match it to a coaxial cable via a torodial
ferrite transformer, thus making the loop independent or floating to
ground. As the loop area is quite small, noise ist also low, and a
preamplifier may be useful. But as this simple loop is broadband and
will also receive the powerful broadcast bands, an input selectivity may
become necessary before a preamplifier, especially with larger loops. So
far I do not have any experience, however, with loops lying on the
ground. I guess loops should have a certain plane or area above ground
(long beverages may be different), independent of their form. Mine is a
triangle.

In general I have experienced that loops close to the ground will be as
sensitive as high T or L antennas. Therefore I can recommend very much
to experiment with loops or even beverages. The match to beverages is
determined by its load resistance, of course.  

My QTH is in southern Germany, eastern Bavaria, also rather rural, but
far from the sea.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Hi LF gang,

In my sked last night with Finbar (best conditions for some weeks) we 
discussed mini-beverage antennas laid directly on the ground. I've done 
a Google trawl and there's a bit evidence that they work well.

I have a need to keep things low-profile due to all the adjacent fields 
being used for sheep, so running a long (100-200m) wire on the ground is 
attractive. I could even run it outside the fenceline along the verge 
beside the road - I'm in a very rural area.

Does anyone have any experience of using BOGs on 500kHz?

John
Gm4SLV



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Dave,

Thanks for confirmation.

Gary.

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> On 4 Sep 2007 at 18:50, Dave Sergeant wrote:
> 
>> On 4 Sep 2007 at 18:25, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>> 
>> > G0MRF beacon runs at 503.700 khz using PSK - CW - QRS alternately,
>> > but I would think that is too far away from were you are seeing a
>> > trace.
>> 
>> Not heard David's beacon for a few days and it is certainly not on at
>> the moment. Can't here anything on 503.75 here in Bracknell.
>> 
>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>> 
>> http://www.davesergeant.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ah, go out the shack for a few minutes and find G0MRF now beaconing 
> around 503.7. Must have heard me...
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 
>


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On 4 Sep 2007 at 18:50, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> On 4 Sep 2007 at 18:25, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> 
> > G0MRF beacon runs at 503.700 khz using PSK - CW - QRS alternately,
> > but I would think that is too far away from were you are seeing a
> > trace.
> 
> Not heard David's beacon for a few days and it is certainly not on at
> the moment. Can't here anything on 503.75 here in Bracknell.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 

Ah, go out the shack for a few minutes and find G0MRF now beaconing 
around 503.7. Must have heard me...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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On 4 Sep 2007 at 18:25, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> G0MRF beacon runs at 503.700 khz using PSK - CW - QRS alternately, but
> I would think that is too far away from were you are seeing a trace.

Not heard David's beacon for a few days and it is certainly not on at 
the moment. Can't here anything on 503.75 here in Bracknell.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi Graham,

G0MRF beacon runs at 503.700 khz using PSK - CW - QRS alternately, but I 
would think that is too far away from were you are seeing a trace.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Seeing the odd trace on 503.750 ,  looks like a beacon , but who ?

Graham .. 



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3rd beacon positive id OK0EMW
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:06:02 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Mike, LF,
> 
> Signal quite weak here but can just copy call sign with headphones & 
> homemade CW filter, capture attached.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 


GW4HXO looks and sounds pretty good up here on approx 501.56kHz at 2053
UTC. 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

John 
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Hi Mike, LF,

Signal quite weak here but can just copy call sign with headphones & 
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Propagation on 500 vy good last nite in spite of the QRN.
For instanced GI4DPE peaked S9 at 2240z and my signal came up to the same
strength with him, but earlier at 2203z he was 579 and gave me 559.
A big improvement but the band is unpredictable with the QRP restrictions
allowed here in the UK. I also worked GM4SLV but the QSB was more rapid and
severe on his signal, peaking S7 at 2242z and taking dips into the noise,
earlier than this his signal was barely audible.
The QSB on GI4DPE was more gradual up and down.
The above observations apply to other bands as well, ie 160 and 80 metres
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Copied WD2XSH/17 in 10wpm CW at about 01:15 last night. This was my
first CW copy of a experimental station across the pond on 500kHz.

On 506.3 KHz brief copy of WE2XGR/2 in QRSS3 at 00:55. This is
another first for me.

>From the UK I copied GI4DPE, GW4HXO in CW and G0MRF in QRSS3.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:
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Just heard GW4HXO 599  and G3KEV 499 in Luton (IO91TV).

 

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Hi, LF.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Interesting !!!!
> 
> http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf

Such a nonsence...
Vector-potencial wave and conventional electromagnetic wave is 
the absolutely (!!!) the same things... What about detection by a
plasma... may be may be (there is nothing detals to say more)...
But any way it is a detection (if this is true) of a conventional EM-wave,
nothing more... 

Referees of Phys.Rev. will laugh too much... 

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Oh Dear.

=20

He we go again :-0)

=20

The vector potential is a way of describing a  energy in space  , polar =
to rectangular conversion ring any bell's ?  X & Y co-ordinates  =3D  R =
< theta

=20

Vector potential is  also know as   R angel theta  .. with the spin in =
rad's per second . how easy it all was ..  May be too easy as I could =
understand it ?

=20

 "Progress is man's ability to complicate simplicity."
=20

=20

Mr Maxwell , like Mr gates , has a lot to answer to/for , Taking an =
existing , simple idea and complicating it beyond recollection and =
presenting it in a 'new exciting way'=20

=20

His e and h waves, x&y plots,  have caused many paint's of beer to  be =
consumed while the concept is discussed and reasons proposed for the =
apparent slight discrepancies in the predicted and measured performance =
of  engineering marvels, based on his conceptualisation,  such  as the =
CFA or the, now, $ rich EH arrays ... and of course, not to  be left =
out,  the 'blue screen on death'=20

=20

=20

As xmas is coming may be we could run a sweep for the best meanings of =
CFA & EH

=20

=20

G ..=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Off Topic : New type of radio wave


  In a message dated 11/09/2007 18:49:10 GMT Daylight Time, =
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
    Hi LF,

    Interesting !!!!

    http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf


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Oh Dear.

=20

He we go again :-0)

=20

The vector potential is a way of describing a  energy in space  , polar =
to rectangular conversion ring any bell's ?  X & Y co-ordinates  =3D  R =
< theta

=20

Vector potential is  also know as   R angel theta  .. with the spin in =
rad's per second . how easy it all was ..  May be too easy as I could =
understand it ?

=20

 "Progress is man's ability to complicate simplicity."
=20

=20

Mr Maxwell , like Mr gates , has a lot to answer to/for , Taking an =
existing , simple idea and complicating it beyond recollection and =
presenting it in a 'new exciting way'=20

=20

His e and h waves, x&y plots,  have caused many paint's of beer to  be =
consumed while the concept is discussed and reasons proposed for the =
apparent slight discrepancies in the predicted and measured performance =
of  engineering marvels, based on his conceptualisation,  such  as the =
CFA or the, now, $ rich EH arrays ... and of course, not to  be left =
out,  the 'blue screen on death'=20

=20

=20

As xmas is coming may be we could run a sweep for the best meanings of =
CFA & EH

=20

=20

G ..=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: GandalfG8@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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  In a message dated 11/09/2007 18:49:10 GMT Daylight Time, =
g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
    Hi LF,

    Interesting !!!!

    http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf


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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">His e and h =
waves,=20
x&amp;y plots, <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>have =
caused many=20
paint=92s of beer to&nbsp; be consumed while the concept is discussed =
and reasons=20
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style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>as the CFA or the, now, $ rich =
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  <A title=3DGandalfG8@aol.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 11, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Off Topic : =
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    LF,<BR><BR>Interesting !!!!<BR><BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf">http://down=
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</DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>---------------</DIV>
  <DIV>Powered by cold fusion perhaps?:-)</DIV>
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In a message dated 11/09/2007 18:49:10 GMT Daylight Time,  
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Hi  LF,

Interesting  !!!!

http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf




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Hi LF,

Interesting !!!!

http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf

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> My TS850 performs well at 500Kc/s and the modification at http://www.radiomods.co.nz/kenwood/kenwoodts850.html to 
> remove the MF attenuator is a simple one taking a few minutes. It is even simpler than described because at Stage 9, 
> you do NOT need to remove the RF board. Simply solder a jumper on the track side of the board.
> Tom G3OLB

I'll second Tom - it's just a simple jumper job - definitely no need to lift the board. Longest time is removing the 
screws from the case.

I've got a TS950sd as well, and this is much the same performance on 500kHz as the TS850 if it's set to 499kHz and then 
tuned past 500kHz with the IRT.

Martin

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Again solid copy of the CW signal from WD2XSH/17 on 505.75kHz. The
signal was visible 00:56-02:15, best around 02:00.

>From the UK copied G3XVL, G0MRF and G3XIZ.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Hello Laurence kl1x

 

Sri I cannot give the accect freq.

My rx nrd -545 reading 137.77

My dds on 137.800 so I can find my signal

On the right freq.i start with argo

All the best 73s wim pa3ego

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Wim - can I get a accurate read on RA3YO's signal frequency (137.8?) and ill
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Laurence 9V1 LF



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Ra3yo

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Have qsy to  503.5 , running  qrss test at approx  0.5 wpm , will qrt =
approx  00:30 hrs=20

tnx for reports , looks like mods have improved things (slightly)

Graham ..=20




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Tx test 502.000 Khz , 5 wpm CW


  Ok  Mike

  Thanks for that and Gary G4GWT , for info , looks like ive picked a =
bad night , :-( ...

  G..=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: G4VSS=20
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    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:56 PM
    Subject: RE: LF: 500kHz Tx test 502.000 Khz , 5 wpm CW


    Nice sigs graham hearing you 5 and 3 in io83rj not far away I know
    73 Mike de G4VSS
      -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Graham
      Sent: 02 September 2007 20:37
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      Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz Tx test 502.000 Khz , 5 wpm CW


      Hi All=20

      Running tx test on 502.000 khz ,  cw  at 5 wpm , started approx  =
20:30 hrs local time=20

      re-vamped exciter , ae and earth system=20

      Siganl reports  strenght / quality welcome=20

      Tnx

      Graham

      G0NBD - IO83LK=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have qsy to&nbsp; 503.5 , running&nbsp; =
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at approx&nbsp; 0.5 wpm , will qrt approx&nbsp; 00:30 hrs </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tnx for reports , looks like mods have =
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things (slightly)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok&nbsp; Mike</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for that and Gary G4GWT , for =
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    Khz , 5 wpm CW</DIV>
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D703435319-02092007><FONT face=3DArial =
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    size=3D2>Nice sigs graham hearing you 5 and 3 in io83rj not far away =
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D703435319-02092007><FONT face=3DArial =
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    Mike de G4VSS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      =
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acksheep.org</A>=20
      [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
      </B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 September 2007 20:37<BR><B>To:</B> =
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      Re: LF: 500kHz Tx test 502.000 Khz , 5 wpm CW<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running tx test on 502.000 khz =
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      cw&nbsp; at 5 wpm , started approx&nbsp; 20:30 hrs local time=20
</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>re-vamped exciter , ae and earth =
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Siganl reports&nbsp; strenght / =
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      welcome </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK =
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Hi Dave,

Thank you for the screen shot, it looks good there.

I shut down at 2015utc because I thought the tone sounded a bit rough & 
raspy on the receiver, I will investigate tomorrow.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gary, LF.
>
> Good copy of your DFCW beacon. Screenshot attached, showing some QSB at 
> the
> beginning of the capture.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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> Hi,
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> Running DFCW02 beacon for a while on 503.600 KHz with 9wpm CW ID, 50 mW 
> ERP,
> 5 minute sync, reports welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> 


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Hello Dmitry

Many tnx for locater
The distance is 1961 km
Also from pa3cpm
Best73 until the next time
Wim pa3ego

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Hi Wim

My locator is KO73dg

73

Dmitry
RA3YO

> 
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:36:52 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Finbar, LF,
> 
> Attached capture.
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> 73
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> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

I tried to send in a capture earlier this afternoon - must have been
too big! Here's the same pic saved as a GIF!

This is from around 2:30 local time

Cheers,

John - GM4SLV - IP90GG
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Hi Finbar, LF,

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73

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Should have been dated April 1st!
 A cynical G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi LF,
> 
> Interesting !!!!
> 
> http://download.antennex.com/listarch/media/news.pdf
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>


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Gary,

    Does your G0MRF transmitter have the M0BMU transformer mod?

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> David, LF,
> 
> I have done that already, have a look. Works fine.
> 
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page23.html
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <G0MRF@aol.com>
> 
> > BTW, if anyone has one of the G0MRF 300W 136kHz transmitters, they work 
> > just
> > fine at 500kHz if you bypass the low pass and add filtering  externally.
> >
> > Good luck both
> >
> > David  G0MRF
> 



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David, LF,

I have done that already, have a look. Works fine.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page23.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> BTW, if anyone has one of the G0MRF 300W 136kHz transmitters, they work 
> just
> fine at 500kHz if you bypass the low pass and add filtering  externally.
>
> Good luck both
>
> David  G0MRF


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With a good nights propagation and Harmuts ability to receive, I suspect  the 
first serious piece of QRS at 3 - 10 second will probably make it.
 
BTW, if anyone has one of the G0MRF 300W 136kHz transmitters, they work  just 
fine at 500kHz if you bypass the low pass and add filtering  externally.
 
Good luck both
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/09/2007 16:27:49 GMT Standard Time, k2ors@comcast.net  
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Hartmut,

> Captured another UNID signal on about 506.3 at  01:53 and 02:20

I did some testing cw and  key-down carrier on 506.305 last night, about 
100watts out into a top loaded  vertical.
Hope to be able increase the power  soon.








   

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Hartmut,

> Captured another UNID signal on about 506.3 at 01:53 and 02:20

        I did some testing cw and key-down carrier on 506.305 last night, about 100watts out into a top loaded vertical.
Hope to be able increase the power soon.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz
WE2XGR/1 505-515kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> 137kHz: Nothing to report. I'll run no captures until next weekend.
> 
> 500 kHz: Captured WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz 01:00-02:55. Solid copy and
> less fading the last 30 minutes of the transmission. On 505.75 was
> a good trace of the CW beacon WD2XSH/17 on the slower screens. On the
> CW-screen I copied only very few signs just after 02:00. I noted some
> UNID signals around 507.5 kHz 02:20-02:25 and at 03:29 on 506.64 kHz.
> Captured another UNID signal on about 506.3 at 01:53 and 02:20. The
> UNIDs on 507.5 kHz and 506.3 kHz are probably CW stations visible on
> the QRSS3 captures.
> 
> I made a signal plot of the EU-beacons 18:00-14:00 UTC on 505 kHz and
> of the UK beacon G0MRF on 503.7kHz.
> 
> Captures and signal plots can be seen here:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
> 



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137kHz: Nothing to report. I'll run no captures until next weekend.

500 kHz: Captured WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz 01:00-02:55. Solid copy and
less fading the last 30 minutes of the transmission. On 505.75 was
a good trace of the CW beacon WD2XSH/17 on the slower screens. On the
CW-screen I copied only very few signs just after 02:00. I noted some
UNID signals around 507.5 kHz 02:20-02:25 and at 03:29 on 506.64 kHz.
Captured another UNID signal on about 506.3 at 01:53 and 02:20. The
UNIDs on 507.5 kHz and 506.3 kHz are probably CW stations visible on
the QRSS3 captures.

I made a signal plot of the EU-beacons 18:00-14:00 UTC on 505 kHz and
of the UK beacon G0MRF on 503.7kHz.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm



73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Seeing a low cw signal   501.525 , gw3uep ? too low to copy by ear .. keying 
speed bit fast for decoding by spectrum plot

can anyone confirm ?

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As a temporary measure, Peter has suggested I remove the Beta 1
version of his SDR Transmitter software from my site.  This is to
freeze the number of copies of the first version out there, pending a
complete re-write that will use a different DSP algorithm and add some
additional features, improvements and enhancements.

Our thanks to all who those have downloaded the Beta 1 version ; but
we would now like some feedback on it.

Comments such as how easy it was to get going, any bugs found, and
anything else you would like to mention.

Peter's email address can be found in the 'about' box in the software.

Meanwhile, the circuits and designs for I/Q unconverters and some
links to suppliers of components are still there...

Please check in a week or so for the new enhanced version of the software.

Andy G4JNT
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Dear LF,

Good copy of G3XVL in QRSS3 mode on 503,446 khz. Very slight drift to LF.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England


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Just captured GW4HXO drifting slightly upward. Now on 501.545 kHz.

Capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Good trace , G3XIZ , 503.950 ,

qra , IO92UB ????

Graham .. 

io83lk 



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Hi all
Wanted
A turns counter for SPC super transmatch made by TAU. It must be over 20 yrs
old but little used. Its a lovely unit but the counter consists of plastic
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High static level last night. Copied G3XIZ in DFCW about 21:00 on
503.95kHz and the G0MRF beacon on 503.7. Nothing seen from the US last
night. Recorded signal plots of the beacons on 505-505.2 kHz and G0MRF
and G3XIZ.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm



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Hartmut
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Peter Martinez G3PLX has written a small stand-alone piece of Windows / PC
software for a Software Defined Transmitter.  The software is intended
to run as a companiom to the various SDR receivers out there to give a
transmit and receive capability.

The program  takes its input from a microphone and generates the I / Q
 signals as a stero output pair for driving a quadrature image cancelling
upconverter.   As well as Upper and Lower Sideband Peter has included AM and
FM modes, having developed a crafty technique involving a subaudible tone to
overcome the lack of DC response on PC soundcards.   A tone generator allows
CW and testing; there is automatic microphone gain adjustment and the
ability to fine tune the phase and amplitude balance between channels.  The
carrier frequency can be offset from the centre by a few kHz if
desired.  The software  can run on a single soundcard for input and output,
or it can make use of two soundcards (freeing up the other half of each for
other purposes).

The software and a full description of the process can be found on my
website, at the URL given below.  To kick-off hardware building, I have
included details of three I/Q upconverters developed over the years.  Two
for HF use - a simple quickie design using NE612 chips, and a high spec one
with carrier/sideband balance for lab / testing purposes.  Also, one for
144MHz primarily aimed at driving the IF for microwave transverters.  There
are a few ideas and pointers at other routes, especially for microwave use.

Many thanks to Peter for coming up with this software so quickly after I
mentioned it to him last week.   He is still tweaking it slightly, so
modified versions may appear from time to time.  It has been tested so far
with Windows XP, 2000 and NT,  and works fine - we haven't tried any other
operating system.

Andy  G4JNT

www.scrbg.org/g4jnt
www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/SDRTransmitters.htm

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<div>Peter Martinez G3PLX has written a small stand-alone piece of Windows / PC software for a Software Defined Transmitter.&nbsp; The software is&nbsp;intended to&nbsp;run as a companiom to the various SDR receivers out there to give a transmit and receive&nbsp;capability.
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The program&nbsp;&nbsp;takes its input from a microphone and generates the I&nbsp;/ Q &nbsp;signals as a stero output pair&nbsp;for driving a quadrature image cancelling upconverter.&nbsp;&nbsp; As well as Upper and Lower Sideband&nbsp;Peter has included AM and FM modes, having developed a crafty technique involving a subaudible tone to overcome the lack of DC response on PC soundcards.&nbsp;&nbsp; A tone generator allows CW and testing; there is automatic microphone gain adjustment and the ability to fine tune the phase and amplitude balance between channels.&nbsp;&nbsp;The carrier frequency can be offset from the centre by a few kHz&nbsp;if desired.&nbsp;&nbsp;The software &nbsp;can run on a single soundcard for input and output, or it can make use of two soundcards (freeing up the other half of each for other purposes).
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The software and a full description of the process&nbsp;can be found on my website, at the URL given below.&nbsp; To kick-off hardware building, I have included details of three I/Q upconverters developed over the years.&nbsp;&nbsp;Two for HF use - a simple quickie&nbsp;design using NE612 chips, and a high spec one with carrier/sideband balance for lab / testing purposes.&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, one for 144MHz primarily aimed at driving the IF for microwave transverters.&nbsp; There are a few ideas and pointers at other routes, especially for microwave use.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Many thanks to Peter for coming up with this software so quickly after I mentioned it to him last week.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;He is still tweaking it slightly, so modified versions may appear from time to time.&nbsp; It has been tested so far with Windows XP,&nbsp;2000 and NT, &nbsp;and works fine - we haven&#39;t tried any other operating system.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/SDRTransmitters.htm">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/SDRTransmitters.htm</a></div>
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PSK DATA STREAM 503.2 KHz

Hi All,

Called cq   502  few times , nothing 'seen'

Running data test PSK31 ,  Rx reports welcome , should be running till  2300 
/ 2400 Hrs

Tnx

Graham

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Hallo Mark!
Thanks for information about my beacon OK0EMW. Yes, I saw its signal on
SLV=B4s grabber too, this grabber is very useful.
=20
GL on 500kHz!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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OK0EMW. Yes, I saw its signal on SLV=B4s grabber too, this grabber is =
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Dear LF,

I've just come back from a few days in Devon. I had a brief listen on 500
kHz over the week-end, using a 1.8m square "stealth" loop pinned to the
wooden siding of the house.

Sat 1 Sept 2007 2120utc GW4HXO cw "CQ" RST 569 + QRN
Sat 1 Sept 2007 2130utc DI2AM cw beacon i/d RST 579 + QRN
Sat 1 Sept 2007 2131utc SM6BHZ cw & QRSS RST 569 + QRN
I heard one or two more DIxxx beacons but couldn't get a positive i/d.

Sat 1 Sept 2007 2200utc GI4DPE calling GM4SLV RST 569 + QSB + QRN on sked,
but no QSO heard
Sun 2 Sept 2007 0905utc G3XIZ cw "CQ" RST 569 - good daytime signal.
The locator for Dartmouth is IO80EI

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (and IO80EI)




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Mike, LF,

Faintest of traces just visible between the 100Hz mains harmonics on my 
grabber

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

Looks like Finbar on 502.5-ish and DI2AM (as usual) looking strong

Cheers,

John GM4SLV Shetland IP90gg


On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Hi Mike, LF,
> 
> Beacon 'O' copy on SpecLab & just audible RST 159 here in Lancashire IO83qp.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Probert"
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> 
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> 
> Presently running my beacon on approx 501.50kHz having called cq for ? hour.
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> Mike  GW4HXO.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hi Mike, LF,

Beacon 'O' copy on SpecLab & just audible RST 159 here in Lancashire IO83qp.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Presently running my beacon on approx 501.50kHz having called cq for � hour.



73



Mike  GW4HXO.




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I ran my beacon from approx 10.00 BST ( having called CQ for about =BD =
hour)
to 21.00 BST.  Then called CQ again and had an enjoyable cw qso with =
G3XIZ
who I had never received before. So beacons do serve a purpose and with =
the
problems of propagation over the land mass and the low power permitted I
make no apology for occasionally running in beacon mode.   Like David =
below,
I also get reports from first time listeners who are delighted to hear =
some
signal on 500khz. A card from GB2LD

advising me that I was the first 500khz signals received since the =
closure
of GLD.was up lifting. When the 501/4 allocation is full of signals =
fighting
for space, as it was at times on 136khz, then I will cease beacon mode.

=20

With best regards to all=20

=20

Mike  GW4HXO.

  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
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=20

Quite...

=20

G ..=20

----- Original Message -----=20

From: G0MRF@aol.com=20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:11 PM

Subject: Re: LF: QRSS report on the beacon band

=20

Hi Peter.

=20

Thank you for the report.

=20

I know beacons are not everyone's idea of best band usage but I try to =
keep
my meagre 5mW out of the way at the top end of the band. (well, at the =
top
end of Dave's grabber which I use for monitoring)

Also, I do get a couple of e-mails a week from people who tune their =
radios
down to 500k for the first time and then report the beacon as the only
signal that's there during the 10 or 15 mins they listen.

If the band was full with people struggling to find space to have a QSO =
I
would of course switch it off.

=20

Thanks again

=20

David

=20

=20

=20

In a message dated 08/09/2007 11:00:18 GMT Standard Time, =
m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk
writes:

I don't think I should be encouraging this but here it is any way. MRF =
you
are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up 13m untuned  RX TS690s wid no mods. see
attached trace.

=20

FMT

=20


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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I ran my beacon from approx 10.00 =
BST (
having called CQ for about =BD hour) to 21.00 BST.=A0 Then called CQ =
again and had
an enjoyable cw qso with G3XIZ who I had never received before. So =
beacons do
serve a purpose and with the problems of propagation over the land mass =
and the
low power permitted I make no apology for occasionally running in beacon
mode.=A0=A0 Like David below, I also get reports from first time =
listeners who are
delighted to hear some signal on 500khz. A card from =
GB2LD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>advising me that I was the first =
500khz
signals received since the closure of GLD.was up lifting. When the 501/4
allocation is full of signals fighting for space, as it was at times on =
136khz,
then I will cease beacon mode.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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GW4HXO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName =
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[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Graham<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 September 2007 =
13:24<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: QRSS =
report on
the beacon band</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Quite...<o:p></o:p></span></font></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href=3D"mailto:G0MRF@aol.com" title=3D"G0MRF@aol.com">G0MRF@aol.com</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>To:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"
title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:11 =
PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: LF: QRSS report on the beacon =
band<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>=


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<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial =
id=3D"role_document"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi =
Peter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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report.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I know beacons are =
not&nbsp;everyone's
idea of best band usage but I try to keep&nbsp;my meagre 5mW&nbsp;out of =
the
way at the top end of the band. (well, at the top end of Dave's grabber =
which I
use for monitoring)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Also, I do get a couple of e-mails =
a week
from people who tune their radios down to 500k for the first time and =
then
report the beacon as the only signal that's there during the 10 or 15 =
mins they
listen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If the band was full with people
struggling to find space to have a QSO I would of course switch it =
off.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks =
again<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 08/09/2007 =
11:00:18
GMT Standard Time, m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk =
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I don't think I should be =
encouraging
this but here it is any way. MRF you are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up =
13m
untuned &nbsp;RX TS690s wid no mods. see attached =
trace.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Quite...

G ..=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: QRSS report on the beacon band


  Hi Peter.

  Thank you for the report.

  I know beacons are not everyone's idea of best band usage but I try to =
keep my meagre 5mW out of the way at the top end of the band. (well, at =
the top end of Dave's grabber which I use for monitoring)
  Also, I do get a couple of e-mails a week from people who tune their =
radios down to 500k for the first time and then report the beacon as the =
only signal that's there during the 10 or 15 mins they listen.
  If the band was full with people struggling to find space to have a =
QSO I would of course switch it off.

  Thanks again

  David



  In a message dated 08/09/2007 11:00:18 GMT Standard Time, =
m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk writes:
    I don't think I should be encouraging this but here it is any way. =
MRF you are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up 13m untuned  RX TS690s wid no =
mods. see attached trace.

    FMT




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  <DIV>Hi Peter.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thank you for the report.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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but I try=20
  to keep&nbsp;my meagre 5mW&nbsp;out of the way at the top end of the =
band.=20
  (well, at the top end of Dave's grabber which I use for =
monitoring)</DIV>
  <DIV>Also, I do get a couple of e-mails a week from people who tune =
their=20
  radios down to 500k for the first time and then report the beacon as =
the only=20
  signal that's there during the 10 or 15 mins they listen.</DIV>
  <DIV>If the band was full with people struggling to find space to have =
a QSO I=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks again</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>David</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>In a message dated 08/09/2007 11:00:18 GMT Standard Time,=20
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way. MRF=20
    you are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up 13m untuned &nbsp;RX TS690s wid =
no=20
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Hi Peter.
 
Thank you for the report.
 
I know beacons are not everyone's idea of best band usage but I try to  keep 
my meagre 5mW out of the way at the top end of the band. (well,  at the top 
end of Dave's grabber which I use for monitoring)
Also, I do get a couple of e-mails a week from people who tune their radios  
down to 500k for the first time and then report the beacon as the only signal  
that's there during the 10 or 15 mins they listen.
If the band was full with people struggling to find space to have a QSO I  
would of course switch it off.
 
Thanks again
 
David
 
 
 
In a message dated 08/09/2007 11:00:18 GMT Standard Time, m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk  
writes:

I don't think I should be encouraging this but here it is any way. MRF  you 
are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up 13m untuned  RX TS690s wid no mods.  see 
attached trace.
 
FMT








   

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I don't think I should be encouraging this but here it is any way. MRF you are 579 at IO91UX. 80m dipole up 13m untuned  RX TS690s wid no mods. see attached trace.
   
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:27:11 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Just see you on the top of the trace , not too strong , but can read
> the 'cw' , oddly just peaking the same as g0mrf
> 
> Graham
> 
> IO 83 LK
> 


Thanks Graham,

I should be on 100mW ERP, although I notice a slight increase in SWR,
so the ATU might need a tweak - not going down in the field at this
time of night!

I make that 756km

Nice!

Cheers,

John
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Just see you on the top of the trace , not too strong , but can read the 
'cw' , oddly just peaking the same as g0mrf

Graham

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> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:12:40 +0200
> Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Nice signals! Screenshot attached.
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
> Finbar seems to be stuck in beacon mode so I'm trying 10 minutes of
> QRSS3 on around 503.8
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> will QRT at 2230UTC
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> John
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:12:40 +0200
Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> Nice signals! Screenshot attached.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp


Finbar seems to be stuck in beacon mode so I'm trying 10 minutes of
QRSS3 on around 503.8

will QRT at 2230UTC

John 


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Nice signals! Screenshot attached.

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Again high noise level. Only traces of WE2XGR/2 on 506.5 kHz
00:50-03:00. The QRSS screen shows a trace on 505.75 kHz from a CW
signal, probably WD2XSH/17.

Good copy of the DFCW signal from G3XIZ on 503.95 kHz about 20:00.
After 01:00 good copy of the G0MRF beacon on 503.7 kHz, too.

Captures and signal plots can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm



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My experience is that SRT CR-91, CR-304A and CR304R
are very good LF receivers. The old Skanti R-5001 works
quite well too but its crystal filters are not as good
as the mechanical filters in the SRT radios.

http://www.rigpix.com/srt/srt.htm
http://www.rigpix.com/miscrx/skanti_r5001.htm

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> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at 
> 500kHz? 



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Hello all,

You may find it of interest that last night at 19:53 UTC on 490 kHz a NAVTEX 
station was received from Taiwan over a distance of 9682 km. The transmitter 
power is stated as 350 W.

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I use my trusty Icom IC-PCR1000 on both 137 and 500 kHz. It's extremely
stable, has a 1-Hz tuning step and as it is very small, it can be tucked
away on a shelf or under the desk in the shack. Doesn't even look like a
wireless..

It definitely needs a tuned pre-amp for 137 kHz, although I can get away
without one for 500 kHz. The down side is that it ties up a PC (which can be
a QRM generator in its own right), and there is only one IF filter bandwidth
awailable, which is a bit wide (3 kHz.) Not a problem for digimodes, but too
wide for CW on a busy band.

For other work, I use a W&G SPM-30, with IF bandwidths of 3100, 1740 and 24
Hz. As you probably know, this is a serious bit of test kit, but it has it's
own internal batteries so that you can lug it across fields, through hedges,
etc, while making remote field-strength measurements.

I have just completed a simple direct conversion RX for 500 kHz, and it
works surprisingly well. It uses a MC1496 double balanced mixer and an audio
amplifier with a switchable 1000 Hz audio filter (88mH toroid). The LO is a
1 Mhz Murata ceramic resonator, pulled with a variable capacitor and then
divided down to cover 500 - 505 kHz.

The audio "image" can be a nuisance, but I managed to receive John GM4SLV on
it the other evening, so it can't be too deaf.

Details available for anyone who is interested.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Thanks to those who have so far provided input for the new edition of
LF Today.

My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at
500kHz?

My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the
attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band.
So what is your experience?

Thanks in advance for any data.

de Mike, G3XDV
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> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at 
> 500kHz? 
>

Hello Mike, LF

I use an AR7030, as others have recommended. Whilst the user interface
might be a bit maddening to some folks I find it okay; too many years
driving menu driven test gear at work? 

In fact the 7030 is effectively a piece of test gear. I value its
frequency stability and the repeatability of signal strength
measurements. It also serves as the measurement section of my ERP
verification field strength metering system. 

I recently added the Collins 300Hz mechanical CW filter which has
greatly enhanced its performance with weak signals in the presence of
high levels of QRN.

The sensitivity of the AR7030 is flat right down almost to DC, unlike
most amateur transceivers, so no mods are necessary to get the best out
of it an MF and the excellnt IP performace means no BC band intermod.

I built a tunable pre-amp recently which is only of use under very
quiet daytime conditions, when external band noise is low and a few
extra dB of sensitivity can be useful. 

I have a very quiet rural location and during the day can probably use
the extra sensitivity.

Many other 500kHz stations are limited by an elevated urban noise floor.

I have yet to need the pre-amp on 500kHz at night due to the much higher
levels of external noise but during the day it has allowed reception of
NDBs that were below the receiver noise floor indicating that the 7030
might not be as sensitive as it could be. 

However,IP performance is generally more important the noise figure on
HF though, so I see why the gain/IP compromise has favoured linearity.

Regards,

John GM4SLV




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Kenwood TS-930sat. Set to 499kc & turn on RIT, goes to 510kc with 
excellent sensitivity. Variable bandwidth passband tuning really pulls 
the weak signals out of the noise if need be. Connect the transverter 
port to a homebrew transverter and you get a rock solid full featured 
rig for 600 meters.

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GM Peter and LF=B4s!
Thaks for a short postscript about OK0EWM on the end of e-mail for Mike.
It is fine, you can listening beacon=B4s signal audible. Your FT990 is
receiving good!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Peter Dodd
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Mike Dennison wrote:
> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at=20
> 500kHz?=20
>
> My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the=20
> attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band.=20
> So what is your experience?
>
>
>  =20
Mike,
I am currently using an FT-990. This isn't quite as sensitive as the=20
TS-850 but as it is used with the RF gain reduced this isn't an issue.
Tonight, using the HF multiband quad and feeder fed aginst ground, with=20
the 500Hz filter switched in, the S-meter on the 850 read between S7 and

S9+5dB on QRN.
The 990 S4 to S6.5.
The BC band attentuation with the 880 is high - about 8 Spoints. With=20
the 990 it is about 2 Spoints.
While making these measurements heard GW4HXO working G3XIZ and G3KEV.=20
Also audible was OK0EMW.

Peter, G3LDO



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Mike Dennison wrote:
> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at 
> 500kHz? 
>
> My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the 
> attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band. 
> So what is your experience?
>
>
>   
Mike,
I am currently using an FT-990. This isn't quite as sensitive as the 
TS-850 but as it is used with the RF gain reduced this isn't an issue.
Tonight, using the HF multiband quad and feeder fed aginst ground, with 
the 500Hz filter switched in, the S-meter on the 850 read between S7 and 
S9+5dB on QRN.
The 990 S4 to S6.5.
The BC band attentuation with the 880 is high - about 8 Spoints. With 
the 990 it is about 2 Spoints.
While making these measurements heard GW4HXO working G3XIZ and G3KEV. 
Also audible was OK0EMW.

Peter, G3LDO


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On 8 Sep 2007 at 17:55, Mike Dennison wrote:

> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at
> 500kHz? 

Datong U/C1 upconverter into an Elecraft K2. Never had the slightest 
sign of any medium wave crossmod, I run it with the U/C1 at zero 
attenuation and the K2 preamp on, gives me a nice healthy noise level 
with the occasional amateur signal to be heard between the beacons...

I understand Mal also uses a U/C1 and I think there is somebody else 
as well.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Mike,

> My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at 
> 500kHz? 

The Icom R75 works nicely without modification at LF and MF.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Hi Mike - Some ops have rewired their TS-850 to bypass the attenuator but a simple compromise is to set the dial to 499.98 and use the RIT control to tune into the UK 500 kHz band. The RIT range can be doubled (from the default of 1.27 kHz) to 2.54 kHz by changing programmable function #17. I usually set the RIT to 2.02 kHz, then the bandwidth of the USB filter gives reception to at least 504 kHz. 
   
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Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com> wrote:
  
My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the 
attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band. 
So what is your experience?





       
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Thanks to those who have so far provided input for the new edition of 
LF Today.

My next question is what are people's favourite receivers for use at 
500kHz? 

My IC-706 seems adequate, but my TS-850 is deaf due to the 
attentuator switched in to prevent overload in the MW broadcast band. 
So what is your experience?

Thanks in advance for any data.

de Mike, G3XDV
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES 00:30 => 05:00 ( long period QSB )

the captures of night are at :
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre and Hartmut for the reports. Operation last night was from 0000 - 0300Z.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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> 137kHz: Copied RA3YO and UA4WPF until 21:00. Only partial copy of
> WD2XNS 00:30-01:00.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 500kHz:WD2XSH/17 was transmitting in QRSS3 on 505.25 kHz. Accidently
> my QRSS3 captured failed, but I could identify the signal on the CW
> screen at 00:45. The QRSS3 trace was clearly visible and readable
> above the EU-beacons on 505kHz. The CW signal send before the QRSS3
> signal was visible but not readable. For signal analysing (fading
> etc.)I uploaded the captures of the QRSS10 screen to my webside.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
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> 
> 73
> Hartmut
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Ok David
   
  I would have done more copies it was the one and only
shot at getting it, your signal here is very good I can copy off the speaker very well. OK I thought the two parallel lines were a narrow band rtty the spacing look right so that answers why I could not resolve it. PSK31 will work ok on 500 may be not dx but general contacts. I guess I need to make a transverter currently only run straight cw. been looking at narrow rtty as a possibility using the current xtal rig.
   
  Oh,  those funny symbols at start and end of the PSK31 message are really quotes I put in but came out wrong! 
   
  QTH is 3 to 4 miles north of the centre of Hitchin north Herts IO91UX. Using Multipsk S/Ware. Probably 70 km north of you.
   
  73 petefmt
  
G0MRF@aol.com wrote:
        In a message dated 09/09/2007 19:18:59 GMT Standard Time, m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk writes:
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  It is an interesting beacon in that it carries different modes (I have yet to resolve the NB RTTY). Oh and BTW this is the PSK31 I am getting David J 
   
  “ PSK31 b(con de G0MRF
  QTH West London IO91TK
  g0mrf@'l.com”    ...................... it's not 100%. 
   
  fmt

  
  Hello Pete.
   
  Well, that's not bad!  The text has just missed the  ea in beacon and the ao  in aol.com.
  Presumably these appear if you copy it a few times.
   
  The "narrow band RTTY" is actually a series of phase reversals to lock the receiver to the PSK31 transmission.  So, If you have the CW QRS and PSK......then you have them all.
   
  Best reception of the PSK31 so far is Ipswich.  Not sure how your QTH compares. I'll check with one of the locator square distance programs.
   
  Typically the PSK is OK for 80km    CW  to 300km  but the QRS is  good to 700km+
   
  Many Thanks
   
  David  MRF
   
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<div>Ok David</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I would have done more copies it was the one and only<BR>shot at getting it, your signal here is very good I can copy off the speaker very well. OK I thought the two parallel lines were a narrow band rtty the spacing look right so that answers why I could not resolve it. PSK31 will work ok on 500 may be not dx but general contacts. I guess I need to make a transverter currently only run straight cw. been looking at narrow rtty as a possibility using the current xtal rig.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Oh, &nbsp;those funny symbols at start and end of the PSK31 message are really quotes I put in but came out wrong!&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>QTH is 3 to 4 miles north of the centre of Hitchin north Herts IO91UX. Using Multipsk S/Ware. Probably 70 km north of you.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 petefmt</div>  <div><BR><B><I>G0MRF@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
 MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1561" name=GENERATOR><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>  <DIV>  <DIV>In a message dated 09/09/2007 19:18:59 GMT Standard Time, m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk writes:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>  <DIV>G0MRF</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">It is an interesting beacon in that it carries different modes (I have yet to resolve the NB RTTY). Oh and BTW this is the PSK31 I am getting David </SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif';
 mso-hansi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J</SPAN></SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">“ PSK31 b(con de G0MRF<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>  <DIV
 class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">QTH West London IO91TK<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>  <DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><A title="mailto:g0mrf@'l.com" href="mailto:g0mrf@'l.com"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"><FONT face="Times New Roman">g0mrf@'l.com</FONT></SPAN></A>”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>...................... it's not 100%. </SPAN></B></DIV>  <DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif';
 mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">fmt</SPAN></B></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>  <DIV></DIV>  <DIV>Hello Pete.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Well, that's not bad!&nbsp; The text has just missed the&nbsp; ea in beacon and the ao&nbsp; in aol.com.</DIV>  <DIV>Presumably these appear if you copy it a few times.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>The "narrow band RTTY" is actually a series of phase reversals to lock the receiver to the PSK31 transmission.&nbsp; So, If you have the CW QRS
 and PSK......then you have them all.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Best reception of the PSK31 so far is Ipswich.&nbsp; Not sure how your QTH compares. I'll check with one of the locator square distance programs.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Typically the PSK is OK for&nbsp;80km&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CW&nbsp; to 300km&nbsp; but the QRS is&nbsp; good to 700km+</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Many Thanks</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>David&nbsp; MRF</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Sorry, no certificates available&nbsp; (Hi)</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; m=
so-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-=
bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; m=
so-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-=
bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">=E2=80=9C=20
  PSK31 b(con de G0MRF<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none; m=
so-layout-grid-align: none"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-=
bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'">QTH=20
  West London IO91TK<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'M=
S Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-langua=
ge: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><A=20
  title=3D"mailto:g0mrf@'l.com" href=3D"mailto:g0mrf@'l.com"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman">g0mrf@'l.com</FONT></SPAN></A>=E2=80=9D<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>....................=
..=20
  it's not 100%. </SPAN></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'M=
S Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-langua=
ge: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></B=
>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'M=
S Sans Serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Sans Serif'; mso-fareast-font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-langua=
ge: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">fmt</SPAN>=
</B></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Pete.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well, that's not bad!&nbsp; The text has just missed the&nbsp; ea in be=
acon=20
and the ao&nbsp; in aol.com.</DIV>
<DIV>Presumably these appear if you copy it a few times.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The "narrow band RTTY" is actually a series of phase reversals to lock=20=
the=20
receiver to the PSK31 transmission.&nbsp; So, If you have the CW QRS and=20
PSK......then you have them all.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Best reception of the PSK31 so far is Ipswich.&nbsp; Not sure how your=20=
QTH=20
compares. I'll check with one of the locator square distance programs.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Typically the PSK is OK for&nbsp;80km&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CW&nbsp; to=20
300km&nbsp; but the QRS is&nbsp; good to 700km+</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Many Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David&nbsp; MRF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry, no certificates available&nbsp; (Hi)</DIV></FONT>   </BODY></HTM=
L>

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>> I'm constantly surprised how you manage to get good reception of my
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>> Many thanks
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>> David  G0MRF
>
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> And just a bit further north sometimes!
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:09:10 EDT
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> I'm constantly surprised how you manage to get good reception of my
> beacon at nearly 700km when it appears to be almost completely
> unreported anywhere north of Birmingham here in the UK (less than
> 200km) 
> Many thanks
>  
> David  G0MRF


And just a bit further north sometimes!

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Well done Hartmut. Nice capture.
 
I'm constantly surprised how you manage to get good reception of my beacon  
at nearly 700km when it appears to be almost completely unreported anywhere  
north of Birmingham here in the UK (less than 200km)
 
Many thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 05/09/2007 15:51:20 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:

137kHz:  Captured RA3YO, UA4WPF and WD2XES.

Captures can be seen  here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Captured QRSS3  signals of G3XIZ and G0MRF

Captures and signal plot can be seen  here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Very high static last  night. No chance to capture any CW signal on
500kHz. The past two nights  there was again a CW trace on 505.75kHz.
Shutdown around 02:00. Due to the  high static level only visible on
the slower  screens.







   

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137kHz: Captured RA3YO, UA4WPF and WD2XES.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Captured QRSS3 signals of G3XIZ and G0MRF

Captures and signal plot can be seen here:
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Very high static last night. No chance to capture any CW signal on
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Shutdown around 02:00. Due to the high static level only visible on
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That's  ok, no problem,

This is the tx text , its repeated as a stream with no breaks

g0nbd@hotmail.com cqcqcq test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl g0nbd@hotmail.com cqc=
qcq=20
test g0nbd g0nbd g0nbd qsl


Tnx for the report

Graham ..


----- Original Message -----=20
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> Sorry Graham,
>
> wrong time, it was 22:19 UTC.
>
> Hartmut
>
>> Tnx , Dr Hartmut
>
>> Thats intresting , ill run it agen saturday night in qpsk31 , see if i=
t
>> prints any better ,
>> looks like there is a peak in the signal  round 2200/2300 hrs gmt ?
>
>> Tnx - Graham ..
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
>> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:23 PM
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O QPSK31
>
>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>>> MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31
>>>
>>> this is what I got until 00:19 UTC:
>>>
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>>> =E5 tqcq test gton  t  n) +d g#d  ne'ehotmaie]citz=BE comR=D8i  r"ren=
s c
>>> r tt=D8n  a  nt gnSd a aa_g=D8nbd
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Hartmut
>>> www.h-wolff.de
>>> Locator: JO52hp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --=20
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>>> 08:36
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
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Sorry Graham,

wrong time, it was 22:19 UTC.

Hartmut

> Tnx , Dr Hartmut

> Thats intresting , ill run it agen saturday night in qpsk31 , see if it 
> prints any better ,
> looks like there is a peak in the signal  round 2200/2300 hrs gmt ?

> Tnx - Graham ..


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
> To: "Graham" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Subject: Re: LF: Re: PSK31 , DATA STREAM 503.2 === MODE CHANGE TO QPSK31


>> Graham,
>>
>>> MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31
>>
>> this is what I got until 00:19 UTC:
>>
>> B r hbd nbd  M�nd@enoq est gynbd g�ndg4nbdco   qs
>> m� i gn5d qfesga nbd de h g�nbd uo  h i@hotmauo.coe t1zbd  l g onbd@hoto 
>> ai
>> � tqcq test gton  t  n) +d g#d  ne'ehotmaie]citz� comR�i  r"rens c
>> r tt�n  a  nt gnSd a aa_g�nbd
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 
>> 08:36
>>
>> 



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Tnx , Dr Hartmut

Thats intresting , ill run it agen saturday night in qpsk31 , see if it=20
prints any better ,
looks like there is a peak in the signal  round 2200/2300 hrs gmt ?

Tnx - Graham ..


----- Original Message -----=20
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> Graham,
>
>> MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31
>
> this is what I got until 00:19 UTC:
>
> B r hbd nbd  M=D8nd@enoq est gynbd g=D8ndg4nbdco   qs
> m=C0 i gn5d qfesga nbd de h g=D8nbd uo  h i@hotmauo.coe t1zbd  l g onbd=
@hoto=20
> ai
> =E5 tqcq test gton  t  n) +d g#d  ne'ehotmaie]citz=BE comR=D8i  r"rens =
c
> r tt=D8n  a  nt gnSd a aa_g=D8nbd
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/200=
7=20
> 08:36
>
>=20




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Graham,

> MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31

this is what I got until 00:19 UTC:

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m� i gn5d qfesga nbd de h g�nbd uo  h i@hotmauo.coe t1�bd  l g onbd@hoto ai
� tqcq test gton  t  n) +d g#d  ne'ehotmaie]cit�� comR�i  r�rens c  
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73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Graham,did see your PSK transmission about 20% copy but nothing resolved of
your QPSK,  your signal is slowly fading in and out of background noise .
Signal level is lower now at 2315 than when first spotted at 2245 bst.

Chris G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk)



On 07/09/2007, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31
>
> TNX
>
> Graham
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Subject: LF: PSK31 , DATA STREAM 503.2
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>
> > PSK DATA STREAM 503.2 KHz
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Called cq   502  few times , nothing 'seen'
> >
> > Running data test PSK31 ,  Rx reports welcome , should be running till
> > 2300 / 2400 Hrs
> >
> > Tnx
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > G0NBD - IO83LK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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Graham,did see your PSK transmission about 20% copy but nothing resolved of your QPSK,&nbsp; your signal is slowly fading in and out of background noise .<br>Signal level is lower now at 2315 than when first spotted at 2245 bst.
<br><br>Chris G3XVL (Ipswich, Suffolk)<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 07/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Graham</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">MODE CHANGED TO&nbsp;&nbsp;QPSK 31<br><br>TNX<br><br>Graham<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----
<br>From: &quot;Graham&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:55 PM
<br>Subject: LF: PSK31 , DATA STREAM 503.2<br><br><br>&gt; PSK DATA STREAM 503.2 KHz<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi All,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Called cq&nbsp;&nbsp; 502&nbsp;&nbsp;few times , nothing &#39;seen&#39;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Running data test PSK31 ,&nbsp;&nbsp;Rx reports welcome , should be running till
<br>&gt; 2300 / 2400 Hrs<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Tnx<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Graham<br>&gt;<br>&gt; G0NBD - IO83LK<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<br>&gt; Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 
7.5.485 / Virus Database:<br>&gt; 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 08:36<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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MODE CHANGED TO  QPSK 31

TNX

Graham


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:55 PM
Subject: LF: PSK31 , DATA STREAM 503.2


> PSK DATA STREAM 503.2 KHz
>
> Hi All,
>
> Called cq   502  few times , nothing 'seen'
>
> Running data test PSK31 ,  Rx reports welcome , should be running till 
> 2300 / 2400 Hrs
>
> Tnx
>
> Graham
>
> G0NBD - IO83LK
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 
> 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 08:36
>
> 




