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Mike,
Please keep us informed when dates and times are finalised. I would be
keen to listen out for you in VK.
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Nic McLean

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Hello John,

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Thanks all for the good advice. I have been playing with the bearing tension
adjustment screw and seem to have it back to normal...time will tell. It as
an older 50ua round meter and has likely seen many years of service...these
things truly are a delicate work of art.

73 / Steve / VE7SL



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Hello Holger,

i can read DI2BO from time to time, but it is depend on the condition.

Holger, ich habe DI2BO schon ein paar mal empfangen k�nnen. Es 
funktioniert aber nur bei leicht angehobenen Bedingungen. Ich werde aber 
weiter auf Dein Signal
achten !!!   Es w�rde mich freuen einen Screenshoot zu bekommen, mit 6 
Stationen auf einmal und die Zeit arbeitet f�r mich :)

Weiterhin viel Erfolg mit Deiner Bake!

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS

Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb:
> Hello Karl-Heinz,
>
> very nice screenshot. How can you read DI2BO on 505.015 kHz (1.7 mW ERP)
> compared to the other stations?
>
> Best 73
>
> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karl-Heinz Gansel" <softrock@dl6ebs.de>
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>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all  audible at 20:47 UTC.
>>
>> DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW
>>
>> http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0708192247.jpg
>>
>>
>> Receiver: Teletron TE704C-F/FS
>> Ant: MiniWHIP with OP27  12m High
>> Locator: JO31HS
>>
>> 73 Karl-Heinz
>> DL6EBS
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hello Karl-Heinz,

very nice screenshot. How can you read DI2BO on 505.015 kHz (1.7 mW ERP)
compared to the other stations?

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello all,
>
> seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all  audible at 20:47 UTC.
>
> DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW
>
> http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0708192247.jpg
>
>
> Receiver: Teletron TE704C-F/FS
> Ant: MiniWHIP with OP27  12m High
> Locator: JO31HS
>
> 73 Karl-Heinz
> DL6EBS
>
>



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Copied QRSS3 signals from G3XIZ 20:05-20:20 and G0MRF 20:15-21:00,
22:00-04:10, best 03:30-04:00.



Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hi Ko, LF,

Good to see the grabber back on. I hope all is well with you.

Regards es 73

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Hi Laurance,
I ran the beacon for a while last night, but your grabber seemed to be on
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<br>Hi Laurance,<br>I ran the beacon for a while last night, but your grabber seemed to be on 500kHz<br>so I shut down at 22:30.<br>73 Laurie<br>

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Hi ALL!
My wife and me spent last afternoon by measuring ERP of OK0EMW.
 
Distance / ERP:
 
3700m / 1,04W
3410m / 0,97W
 905m / 1,01W
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Average is:  0,98W ERP
 
It was done 6 measures , but the best and the worst values has been
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Hartmut,

> a carrier noted 01:30-01:40 on 137.779kHz last night. The cooperation
> of Thor is important tonight, because T-storms arriving now.

Yes, that was XES. I had the carrier on for just that long, looking for 
any sign of instability.

Our weather forecast here should be OK for the next two nights, but may 
be troublesome over the weekend. Hopefully, your storms will pass 
through early tonight.

Thanks.

John A.


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John,

a carrier noted 01:30-01:40 on 137.779kHz last night. The cooperation
of Thor is important tonight, because T-storms arriving now.

73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp

> I created some transmitter and cabling problems with the WD2XES setup a 
> few weeks ago, and finally have things back in operation. I will resume 
> beaconing on 137.779 kHz in DFCW(60) tonight from 0000 to 0500 UTC, and 
> will try to keep up the schedule as weather permits. Long-haul 
> conditions are quite good at this point if Thor cooperates.

> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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I created some transmitter and cabling problems with the WD2XES setup a 
few weeks ago, and finally have things back in operation. I will resume 
beaconing on 137.779 kHz in DFCW(60) tonight from 0000 to 0500 UTC, and 
will try to keep up the schedule as weather permits. Long-haul 
conditions are quite good at this point if Thor cooperates.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


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OK0EMW visible O copy at 1827 utc slight qsb, still daylight here. Now
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Ga Henny LF.

that was UA4WPF"s dfcw signal.

73 Ed DL2HRE
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  capture who?
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GM Rog!
Your websides are very nice. There are good topics for inspiration on
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73 and thaks for nice LF speeking !
 
Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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rev2:  http://www.gw3ltx.uku.co.uk/
 
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Lubos, LF

It is nearly dark at this QTH, and OK0EMW is much stronger now. Solid "O"
copy.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


>
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
> of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
> obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
>
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
> 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power
>
> Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
> sections
>
> The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
> 0.95W ERP
>
> All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
>
>
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GM Nicolas!
I am glad to receive the first report and snapshot of signal OK0EMW from
France!. 
 
Merci beaucoup et porte toi bien!
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 
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Hello Lubos strong copy in France.
 
Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
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RX: IC 7400<br>
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Steve - this has helped me too - I remember shortly before I put the QRO 13=
7Khz loop tuner into storage @ Dallas (where it sits today) that my 0-50A l=
oop current meter was just starting to stick - when and if I get it out of =
storage Ill know where to attack the problem.
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Well it seems that my 'closer look' (this time with headband magnifier plus
a magnifying glass) paid off. I was able to locate a miniscule fragment of
something between the moving coil and the magnet which I was able to remove.
I am happy to report that my 60 year old 50ua meter is now working like new.
Thanks to all who gave me their advice. Hopefully I can return the favor at
some point.

73 / Steve / VE7SL


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Don't think I've beaconed since last Monday Graham
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB


> Tom,
>
> What is your beacon frequency now ?
>
> Tnx
>
> G..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
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>
>
>> Thank you Graham & John,
>>
>> There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
>> fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some actual 
>> QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).
>>
>> 73
>> Tom G3OLB
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 559 , qsb , io83lk
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
>>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> G3OLB ,
>>>>
>>>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>>>> level , no problems ,
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>
>>> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
>>> ear!)
>>>
>>> John GM4SLV
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>>
>>
>
>
> 



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Tom,

What is your beacon frequency now ?

Tnx

G..


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Thank you Graham & John,
>
> There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
> fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some actual 
> QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:27 PM
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>
>
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
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>>
>>> G3OLB ,
>>>
>>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>>> level , no problems ,
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>
>> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
>> ear!)
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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Hi Again,

Further to my last post, if you go to the home page there are lots more 
options to select.

http://meteocentre.com/home_e.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi LF,

I like to use this site, you can choose the area of Europe & even take the 
animation or image back various periods up to 24 hrs.

http://meteocentre.com/lightning/map_sfuk.php?time=0&lang=en&map=AEurope

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Dear Dave and the list,

I have a complete "mirror" of Reg G4FGQ's site which I downloaded
shortly after Reg passed away. It contains exactly 100 programs...

I changed the links in the html code so that the site works with
all files put in a single directory/folder. I have been careful not
to change anything else.

It is a 2.2MB zip file. Just unzip and point to/open index.html.
I will be happy to mail a copy to anyone.

Reg's work must not be forgotten!

73
Johan SM6LKM



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On 17 Aug 2007 at 12:50, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> Dave G3YXM has a mirror - took me a while to find it - at 
> 
> http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/index.html

Thanks, after I posted I did find Dave's mirror copy and retrieved 
the programs I was looking for (trying to sort out a potential new 
novice licencee at our club who wants to build a helical wound 
vertical for 160m, Reg came to my rescue!).

Now I need to update all the links to his site from mine...

73 Dave G3YMC

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John,

Many thanks for that.
There should be some sort of memorial to Reg for his services to Amateur
radio.    I don't know what.

Regards

Mike  GW4HXO.



Hello Dave, LF

Dave G3YXM has a mirror - took me a while to find it - at 

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/index.html

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> I have just noticed that Reg G4FGQ's site, which many of us have used 
> for his excellent programs, has now been removed (Reg became a silent 
> key last year). You now either get a page not found or a confusing 
> BTYahoo sign in page. Was OK up to around a week ago, and I have a 
> few links to there from my site.
> 
> I know there are a number of mirror images of his site out on the web 
> for when this happened, can anybody point me to them?
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 
> 


Hello Dave, LF

Dave G3YXM has a mirror - took me a while to find it - at 

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/index.html

Regards,

John GM4SLV


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I have just noticed that Reg G4FGQ's site, which many of us have used 
for his excellent programs, has now been removed (Reg became a silent 
key last year). You now either get a page not found or a confusing 
BTYahoo sign in page. Was OK up to around a week ago, and I have a 
few links to there from my site.

I know there are a number of mirror images of his site out on the web 
for when this happened, can anybody point me to them?

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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<font style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size=3D"2">Hi=A0
all,<br />

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">to whom i=
t
concerns: <br /></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Three days ago I switched the
radiated power of <span>&nbsp;</span>DI2BE from 2,84W(ERP) to
4,30W(ERP)<o:p /></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">-
controlled by measuring the FS in a distance of 1,806km using a
Rhode&amp;Schwarz
equipment <br /></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">HFH2 and ESH3 (i.e. RR FS
measuring standard).</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin:0px;">during measurement the WX was dry, no clouds. <br
/></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;">regards</p><p
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;">Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv<br /><span
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p /></span></p>

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OK Laurence, All being well I will transmit tonight. 73 Laurie

On 24/08/07, Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry Laurie - I didnt get your email before I closed my eyes last
> night (!) - Conditions were only fair with still reasonable peeks but nas=
ty
> fades - but the night before would have been interesting -
>
> Ill leave the rx on tonight on your freq - per my last email we really ha=
d
> some foul weather last night and today so heres hoping the sun starts
> shining...
>
> Im going to put up a third antennae this weekend hopefully - again with
> some quick "drawdown" in the event of the near daily tstorms that we get
> here on the equator..
>
> Pleased with the isolation transformer mod - seems to work really well.
> Thanks
>
> Laurence 9V1 LF aka G4DMA
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:40:27 -0700
> From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: 136 Beacon
>
>
> Hi Laurance,
> I ran the beacon for a while last night, but your grabber seemed to be on
> 500kHz
> so I shut down at 22:30.
> 73 Laurie
>
>
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OK Laurence, All being well I will transmit tonight. 73 Laurie<br><br><div>=
<span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 24/08/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Laur=
ence KL1X</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">helloze=
rohellozero@hotmail.com
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
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<div>Sorry Laurie - I didnt get your email before I closed my eyes last nig=
ht&nbsp;(!) - Conditions were only fair with still reasonable peeks but nas=
ty fades - but the night before would have been interesting - <br>
&nbsp;<br>
Ill leave the rx on tonight on your freq - per my last email we really had =
some foul weather last night and today so heres hoping the sun starts shini=
ng...<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Im going to put up a third antennae this weekend hopefully - again with som=
e quick &quot;drawdown&quot; in the event of the near daily tstorms that we=
 get here on the equator..<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Pleased with the isolation transformer mod - seems to work really well.<br>
Thanks<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Laurence 9V1 LF aka G4DMA<br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote>
<hr>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:40:27 -0700<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:laurie.may=
head@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink=
(window,event,this)">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.=
js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>Subject: LF: 136 Beacon<br><br><br>Hi L=
aurance,<br>I ran the beacon for a while last night, but your grabber seeme=
d to be on 500kHz<br>so I shut down at 22:30.<br>73 Laurie<br></blockquote>
<br><hr>Messenger Caf=E9 =97 open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities =
served daily. <a href=3D"http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_AugWLtag=
line" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,t=
his)">Visit now.
</a></div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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Sorry Laurie - I didnt get your email before I closed my eyes last night (!=
) - Conditions were only fair with still reasonable peeks but nasty fades -=
 but the night before would have been interesting -=20
=20
Ill leave the rx on tonight on your freq - per my last email we really had =
some foul weather last night and today so heres hoping the sun starts shini=
ng...
=20
Im going to put up a third antennae this weekend hopefully - again with som=
e quick "drawdown" in the event of the near daily tstorms that we get here =
on the equator..
=20
Pleased with the isolation transformer mod - seems to work really well.
Thanks
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF aka G4DMA


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:40:27 -0700From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136 BeaconHi Laurance,I ran the b=
eacon for a while last night, but your grabber seemed to be on 500kHzso I s=
hut down at 22:30.73 Laurie
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<body>Sorry Laurie - I didnt get your email before I closed my eyes last ni=
ght&nbsp;(!) - Conditions were only fair with still reasonable peeks but na=
sty fades - but the night before would have been interesting - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ill leave the rx on tonight on your freq - per my last email we really had =
some foul weather last night and today so heres hoping the sun starts shini=
ng...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im going to put up a third antennae this weekend hopefully - again with som=
e quick "drawdown" in the event of the near daily tstorms that we get here =
on the equator..<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Pleased with the isolation transformer mod - seems to work really well.<BR>
Thanks<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF aka G4DMA<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:40:27 -0700<BR>From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.co=
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Morning Laurie - thanks for the signals. Yes your right, conditions not so =
good tonight. DCF39 showed slower rise and has only short peaks of a few mi=
ns in duration some 5dB down from last night, and then deep qsb pockets of =
some 10dB every 30 mins or slow. Its also continuous qrn with very little b=
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=20
Cheers


Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:19:08 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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 close down early tonight due to overheating in matching transformer does'n=
t like 180sec DFCW !No traces seen on grabber so guess condx not so good.th=
anks 73Laurie
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<body>Morning Laurie - thanks for the signals. Yes your right, conditions n=
ot so good tonight. DCF39 showed slower rise and has only short peaks of a =
few mins in duration some 5dB down from last night, and then deep qsb pocke=
ts of some 10dB every 30 mins or slow. Its also continuous qrn with very li=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Okey Dokey - thanks will be looking overnight -
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Laurence KL1X 9V1LF
http://kl1x.com


Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:37:30 -0700From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136 BeaconHi Laurence and Alan,Re=
wound the transformer with slightly thicker wire,so hope it won't get so ho=
talthough it might be core saturation !No increase in Ant. current so I gue=
ss no significant power was lost. Condx still holding up, thanks Alan for r=
eports so will have another shot tonight.DFCW 150 sec elements, centered on=
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<body>Okey Dokey - thanks will be looking overnight&nbsp;-<BR>
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Laurence KL1X 9V1LF<BR>
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:37:30 -0700<BR>From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.co=
m<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Subject: LF: 136 Beacon<BR><BR>Hi =
Laurence and Alan,<BR>Rewound the transformer with slightly thicker wire,so=
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ncrease in Ant. current so I guess no significant power was lost. <BR>Condx=
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Thanks both - good luck with the mods Laurie - well the best path of max da=
rkness is Eu midwinter, as it is from here to the East coast USA - My sunri=
se and sunset doesnt change dramatically over the year but the longer night=
 time will help Im sure. Just having the path open for  longer will help an=
d I think Ill get rid of some of the tstorm activities from some of the mon=
soons. I think we will get plenty of signal - I just need to work on the si=
gnal to noise!
=20
Im going to run two receivers and two slightly different antennae on the ne=
xt run - this will nix the dcf39 plot.
=20
Cheers -
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF


Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:52:05 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136 BeaconHi  Laurence, Alan,Pity=
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wo. Also try fix transformer.73 Laurie
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<body>Thanks both - good luck with the mods Laurie - well the best path of =
max darkness is Eu midwinter, as it is from here to the East coast&nbsp;USA=
&nbsp;- My sunrise and sunset doesnt change dramatically over the year but =
the longer night time will help Im sure. Just having the path open for&nbsp=
; longer will help and I think Ill get rid of some of the tstorm activities=
 from some of the monsoons. I think we will get plenty of signal - I just n=
eed to work on the signal to noise!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im going to run two receivers and two slightly different antennae on the ne=
xt run - this will nix the dcf39 plot.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers -<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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m<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Subject: LF: 136 Beacon<BR><BR>Hi&=
nbsp; Laurence, Alan,<BR>Pity about last night, will take a rest tonight se=
e how&nbsp; condx<BR>are in a day or two. Also try fix transformer.<BR>73 L=
aurie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />See what you=92re getting into=85before y=
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ok - very noisy here but will give it a go... thanks!


Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:09:45 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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 being well I will run DFCW centered on 136.318.5,shift 0.2 Hz. Start 19:30=
73 Laurie
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<body>ok - very noisy here but will give it a go... thanks!<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Hi Laurence,
Tonight all being well I will run DFCW centered on 136.318.5,
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Hi Laurence,<br>Tonight all being well I will run DFCW centered on 136.318.5,<br>shift 0.2 Hz. Start 19:30<br>73 Laurie<br>

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Laurie/Markus - much better long haul conditions this evening but still not=
 brilliant.=20
http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg shows and earlier appearance of dcf39 with les=
s "deep" qsb pockets and flat topping (think this is audio rx limiting) fro=
m 2120 till 2230z, before the Singapore dawn rapid falloff starting at arou=
nd 2250z ( a few mins ago). I had to shut down the system for most of the d=
ay yesterday due to very nasty storms.
=20
QRN levels, which Im sure is going to be my limiter were "average" for Sing=
apore. Certainly not a quiet night!
=20
As Markus says, nice traces on 319 - thanks...will be looking..  http://kl1=
x.com/dx00000.jpg
=20
Im hopefully going to open up a third rx grab  for 500Khz region my tonight=
=20
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
Damp,  Singapore 32C
=20
=20



> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:01:40 -0400> =
From: markusvester@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Beacon> > Laurie,> > it looks =
like Laurence's grabber in Singapore is definitely picking up > some of you=
r signal on 136319: http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg> > 73 and best of luck>=
 > Markus, DF6NM> > > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----> Von: lawr=
ence mayhead <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>> An: rsgb <rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org>> Verschickt: Sa., 18. Aug. 2007, 13:26> Thema: LF: Beacon> > > H=
i Laurence,> Will beacon tonight for two hours from 21:00utc.> condx still =
quiet.> Laurie> > > _______________________________________________________=
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<body>Laurie/Markus - much better long haul conditions this evening&nbsp;bu=
t still not brilliant.&nbsp;<BR>
<BR><A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg">http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg</=
A>&nbsp;shows and earlier appearance of dcf39 with less "deep" qsb pockets =
and flat topping (think this is audio rx&nbsp;limiting) from 2120 till 2230=
z, before the Singapore dawn rapid falloff starting at around 2250z ( a few=
 mins ago). I had to shut down the system for most of the day yesterday due=
 to very nasty storms.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
QRN levels, which Im sure is going to be my limiter were "average" for Sing=
apore. Certainly not a quiet night!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
As Markus says, nice traces on 319 - thanks...will be looking..&nbsp; <A hr=
ef=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im hopefully going to open up a third rx grab&nbsp; for 500Khz region my to=
night <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
Damp,&nbsp;&nbsp;Singapore 32C<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>

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&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:01:=
40 -0400<BR>&gt; From: markusvester@aol.com<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Beacon=
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Laurie,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; it looks like Laurence's grabber=
 in Singapore is definitely picking up <BR>&gt; some of your signal on 1363=
19: http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73 and best of luck<BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; Markus, DF6NM<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <B=
R>&gt; -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----<BR>&gt; Von: lawrence mayhead &=
lt;laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; An: rsgb &lt;rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Verschickt: Sa., 18. Aug. 2007, 13:26<BR>&gt; Thema=
: LF: Beacon<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi Laurence,<BR>&gt; Will beacon ton=
ight for two hours from 21:00utc.<BR>&gt; condx still quiet.<BR>&gt; Laurie=
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________=
________________________<BR>&gt; Bei AOL gibt's jetzt kostenlos eMail f=FCr=
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Any  hints for a pointer than hangs up periodically?

Steve / VE7SL


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137kHz: High static level, copied WD2XES only during local dawn.

Captures can be seen here:
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500 kHz: G3OLB was visible on the spectrum lab screen, due to heavy
static hard to copy. G0MRF was visible 22:00-04:00, best around 03:00.

Captures can be seen here:
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G3KEV here 549 deep QSB
 antenna seems to be wkg!
Also now have Xband capability to HF, as converter is to 2m
Mark
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  g3kev calling cq , 502.5 ,  copy  549 / 449  speaker copy at moment=20

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It's always impressive how strong those dx sferics are - this weekend there 
were no storms exactly 'local' to the British Isles, but the QRN levels were 
high. I keep an eye on wetterzentrale.de at
http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rsfloc.gif or 
http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rsfloc3.gif
Unfortunately these do not seem to be archived anywhere, but here's one I 
grabbed today, showing activity in the Baltic, Bay of Biscay and Hungary
http://www.hostmyfile.co.uk/?code=904ec7287afefb35659d9b94f37e4d1f


----- Original Message ----- 
John wrote:
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> Just attempted my usual 11pm sked with Finbar.
>
> Initially seemed not too bad but high QRN crashes, and deep QSB soon
> took its toll and we called it a day.
(snip)
> Oh well - roll on winter and the end of the summer lightning season!
> 



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Hello Lubos strong copy in France.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

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Hi all
I am QRV most days on both 600m and 160m CW if anyone wants to try
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LUBOMIR
    leave it running daytime, esp afternoon and I will look for u. I can =
hr the DI2 beacons all day vy strong, at present 599 1400 utc daylight.
73 gl mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk=20
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  Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:07 PM
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  =20

  Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly =
Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this =
office, I have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental =
operation:

  =20

  Frequency:       505.060kHz

  Power:             1W ERP max

  Location:          Breclav, JN88KS

  Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3

  Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular =
CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.

  Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced =
power=20

  Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal =
sections

  =20

  The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: =
0.95W ERP

  =20

  All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!

  =20

  Lubos, OK2BVG

  =20

  lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz

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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500] =
Beacon_OK0EMW</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office =
(CTO),=20
  particularly Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the =
director of=20
  this office, I have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW =
experimental=20
  operation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Frequency:<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>505.060kHz<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Power:<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
  </SPAN>1W ERP max<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Location:<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>Breclav, JN88KS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mode:<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 70.5pt; TEXT-INDENT: =
-70.5pt"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Text:<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>Identification &#8222;Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW =
6WPM is followed by=20
  2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Transmitter: <SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>DDS VFO =
(home made) +=20
  PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Aerial: <SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
  </SPAN>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal=20
  sections<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The =
results of ERP=20
  field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1"></SPAN>0.95W =
ERP<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All =
reports,=20
  snapshots and informations about signal are=20
  welcome!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Lubos,=20
  OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz</A><o:p><=
/o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Hello Lubos,

I am very pleased to report excellent aural reception of beacon OKoEMW in t=
he Netherlands on August 17, 2007 at 20:40 UTC.

The signal was 25 dB over my noise floor in a 24 Hz bandwidth.
A crop selection of an ARGO screenshot is attached.
You can spot the end of the normal speed CW message.
The signal shows deep fades over a 990 km path.

Congrats on your permission for beaconing at 500 kHz.
Your signals are doing very well indeed.

Best regards,

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
Middelburg, Netherlands
JO11tm

Receiver: Aural: SPM-30, visual: AOR AR7030
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Lubos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am very pleased to report excellent aural 
reception of beacon OKoEMW in the Netherlands on August 17, 2007 at 20:40 
UTC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal was 25 dB over my noise floor in a =
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bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A crop selection of an ARGO screenshot is 
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can spot the end of the normal speed CW 
message.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal shows deep fades over a 990 km 
path.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats on your permission for beaconing at 5=
00 
kHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your signals are doing very well 
indeed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Middelburg, Netherlands</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>JO11tm</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Lubos, LF,

I have a positive ID on your beacon signal now as darkness starts to come to 
my area, well done.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp - NW UK.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubom�r Bobal�k" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject: LF: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW


>
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
> of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
> obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
>
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
> 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power
>
> Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
> sections
>
> The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
> 0.95W ERP
>
> All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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Hi Lubos & LF,

Congratulations on the issue of the experimental beacon operation licence.

If you are transmitting the beacon at the moment then this snapshot could be 
your beacon but no positive ID yet.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

NW UK.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lubom�r Bobal�k" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject: LF: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW


>
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
> of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
> obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
>
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
> 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power
>
> Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
> sections
>
> The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
> 0.95W ERP
>
> All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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Hi Ed

It's correct

Dmitry

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> captured 2115utc on 137.778KHz
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Seeing some very low sigs  502.4  and 502.6 and i assume Finbar, just a 
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In a message dated 31/08/2007 16:03:25 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
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I  will listen for your signals, it may be interesting to see the
difference  in signal strength.



OK Hartmut.  Thank you.
 
I am just setting up now but have to wait until the TV has passed peak  
viewing. Even the 5mW is enough to desense my medium wave radio when  listening to 
648kHz
 
73
 
David



   

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Hi David,
 
> BTW.  A few days ago you reported my beacon as  503.69.    You were right. 
> When I went to check the DDS I found  that it was indeed 10Hz low. - Now 
> corrected.   Sorry.

In the past weeks, I had some trouble with the 24bit soundcards in use
with my 500kHz DCrx with IQ output. First the audigy2ZS PCI card
crashed nearly every night. When I changed the soundcard to a 24bit
PCIe card on sunday morning I was not aware of the poor quality of
this card: For getting the 22050Hz sample rate in spectrum lab I have
to set the sample rate calibration to 22200Hz. This was the reason for
my inaccurate frequency readings on sunday/monday night.

> If I have some time Friday night - Saturday morning I will change the  
> transmitter and try 100mW (+13dB) so I can monitor the difference on GM4SLVs  
> grabber.  I will not be able to run the linear mode PSK31 during that time  as the 
> higher power TX is class D
 
I will listen for your signals, it may be interesting to see the
difference in signal strength.

73
Hartmut



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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:30:34 EDT
G0MRF@aol.com wrote:


> If I have some time Friday night - Saturday morning I will change
> the transmitter and try 100mW (+13dB) so I can monitor the difference
> on GM4SLVs grabber.  I will not be able to run the linear mode PSK31
> during that time  as the higher power TX is class D
>  


Hello David, LF etc

I'll try and ensure it's operational!

Best of luck and I hope to see some signals from you of workable (ie
audible by ear) strength.

Cheers,

John


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In a message dated 30/08/2007 15:42:42 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:

137kHz:  High static level, copied WD2XES only during local dawn.

Captures can  be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: G3OLB was  visible on the spectrum lab screen, due to heavy
static hard to copy. G0MRF  was visible 22:00-04:00, best around 03:00.

Captures can be seen  here:
_http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm_ 
(http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm) 





Thank you Hartmut.
 
BTW.  A few days ago you reported my beacon as  503.69.    You were right. 
When I went to check the DDS I found  that it was indeed 10Hz low. - Now 
corrected.   Sorry.
 
If I have some time Friday night - Saturday morning I will change the  
transmitter and try 100mW (+13dB) so I can monitor the difference on GM4SLVs  
grabber.  I will not be able to run the linear mode PSK31 during that time  as the 
higher power TX is class D
 
Thank you for your reports
 
73
 
David  G0MRF



   

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Walter, Gari, Dave, Hartmuth and LF!
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span>They are useful, becouse my beacon =
is <span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span>&#8222;a greenhorn on 500kHz&#8220; =
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Hartmut,

Thanks for the report -- very good copy through the noise. Brian, 
CT1DRP, also copied the signal, with the best period around 0400.

XES will be on again tonight. Saturday night to Sunday morning operation 
will depend on weather, as thunderstorms are possible here.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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Again very high static level last night. Due to a arriving storm I
disconnected the antenna at 03:40. XES was visible since 01:00.

A capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Hi Gary
Tnx for answer
May be its interesting for hre hi
All the best 73 wim jo22mb

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Namens Gary - G4WGT
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Hi Wim,

Looks like DL2HRE using DFCW.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Willem de Roode" <wdr@casema.nl>
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> Capture tonights viewing
> 
> 1.39am
> 
> But who is  ??
> 
> 73s wim pa3ego
> 
>



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Hello friends

Although my activity on LF has been very little during the past year, due
to various reasons outside of radio,however I was often listening and
I know that now the greatest interest is for the 500 Kc.Unfortunately, at
present time, we have no possibility  to operate on this frequency. By the
way
I had a problem with my internet provider and now the address of my site
has changed into: http://it.dada.net/freeweb/dai5tgc.dadacasa/. Remain
active for some time two old addresses as appear below, while the other old
address: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it  is definitively dead.Since
someone has a link with me,i.e. g3yxm ,dk8kw and other, I suggest to
update these link with the new address. Hope to have soon again qsos on
137Kc;
have my best 73 and good lack to all:

Cesare Tagliabue   I 5 TGC
WW-Loc  JN53PS
e-mail: cestag@dada.it
url: http://it.dada.net/freeweb/dai5tgc.dadacasa/
also: http://fun.supereva.it/dai5tgc.dadacasa/
also: http://freeweb.supereva.com/dai5tgc.dadacasa/



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Hi Laurence and Alan,
Rewound the transformer with slightly thicker wire,so hope it won't get so
hot
although it might be core saturation !
No increase in Ant. current so I guess no significant power was lost.
Condx still holding up, thanks Alan for reports so will have another shot
tonight.
DFCW 150 sec elements, centered on 136,318.5kHz, shift 0.15 Hz

73 Laurie

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Hi Laurence and Alan,<br>Rewound the transformer with slightly thicker wire,so hope it won&#39;t get so hot<br>although it might be core saturation !<br>No increase in Ant. current so I guess no significant power was lost.
<br>Condx still holding up, thanks Alan for reports so will have another shot tonight.<br>DFCW 150 sec elements, centered on 136,318.5kHz, shift 0.15 Hz<br><br>73 Laurie<br>

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> Good morning Mal,
>
> What are you running for a transmitter on the band?
>
> Mike
> WE0H
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>
> hamilton mal wrote:
> > Last nite Lots of beacons all vy strong, counted 7 but no one in qso
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> > GI4DPE 589, GW3UEP 579 ON CW beacon 2030z
> > all the rest qrs.
> > A great oppertunity missed for QSO's
> > Worked G3UNT
> > Mal/G3KEV
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Good morning Mal,

What are you running for a transmitter on the band?

Mike
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hamilton mal wrote:
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> GI4DPE 589, GW3UEP 579 ON CW beacon 2030z
> all the rest qrs.
> A great oppertunity missed for QSO's
> Worked G3UNT
> Mal/G3KEV


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Last nite Lots of beacons all vy strong, counted 7 but no one in qso mode.
GI4DPE 589, GW3UEP 579 ON CW beacon 2030z
all the rest qrs.
A great oppertunity missed for QSO's
Worked G3UNT
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ge Wim, LF.

yes that was my dfcw50-signal on 137.778KHz for a testtransmission.

73 Ed DL2HRE
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  Hi Gary,

  I think we are wrong about the capture on137.77

  Maybe dl2hre can tell us. I try tonight again you never no.

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  73 wim pa3ego jo22mb

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yes that was my dfcw50-signal on =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 27, 2007 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 137.77</DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Hello Steve,

There is a piece on this problem in the latest issue of QRP-Quartely, the 
magazine of QRP-ARCI:

"This sympton usually indicates that a small piece of iron or some other 
foreign body has found its way into the magnetic gap and is fouling the 
movement former"

"One method I have used for years with excellent results is to locate the 
particles against a white background using light and a magnifying glass. I 
then use a non-magnetic lead of a resistor or similar component prepared 
with a dab of contact cement ( of the type used to glue plastic laminate to 
wood panels and furniture) at the end.
Put a small quantity of cement on the lead tip and allow it to dry a little 
to become rubber-like and sticky. I then introduce the sticky end into the 
gap and chase the iron bits, rolling the tip on the pole pieces. Semi-dried 
contact cement is quite sticky and the small particles will adhere to it."

End of quote.

I hope this helps,

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503.6 .. G3OLB .. JUST ON CANS 

JUST GETTING CALL WITH CANS ON .. 503.6  

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Good copy of G3XIZ beaconing on about 503.925kHz in QRSS3. Again only
poor copy of the CW-signals due to heavy static.

A capture and the plot of G3XIZ can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:21:25 +0100
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> Hi LF,
> 
> Beacon power reduced to 10mW erp from 2125utc.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


Still there!

How low can you go?

John GM4SLV
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Hi LF,

Beacon power reduced to 10mW erp from 2125utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Gary, LF
> 
> Just popped into the shack and noticed your beacon appearing on my
> grabber. Lots of QRN around again, but good visual report.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John GM4SLV
> 
>


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Hi LF,

Beacon power reduced to 25 mW from 2050utc.

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Gary, LF
> 
> Just popped into the shack and noticed your beacon appearing on my
> grabber. Lots of QRN around again, but good visual report.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John GM4SLV
> 
>


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Hi John,LF,

Now beacon on reduced ERP at 50mW from 2030utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Gary, LF
> 
> Just popped into the shack and noticed your beacon appearing on my
> grabber. Lots of QRN around again, but good visual report.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John GM4SLV
> 
>


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Hi John, LF,

Thanks for use of the grabber !! I am watching yours & Daves. Was able to 
see a slight trace at Shetland whilst still daylight.

I am going to back down the power later & watch the results.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: G4WGT 503.6


> Gary, LF
>
> Just popped into the shack and noticed your beacon appearing on my
> grabber. Lots of QRN around again, but good visual report.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> 



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Lubos, LF,

Congratulatons on getting OK0EMW on the air. I'm already seeing "T" > "M"
copy daytime signals from you, with quite deep QSB. Reception should improve
as darkness falls.

I estimate the QRB to be 1273 km - slightly further than GM4SLV ;-)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor RE England


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom�r Bobal�k
  Sent: 17 August 2007 20:08
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW




  Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of
Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:



  Frequency:       505.060kHz

  Power:             1W ERP max

  Location:          Breclav, JN88KS

  Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3

  Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.

  Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

  Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
sections



  The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP



  All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!



  Lubos, OK2BVG



  lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz





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LF,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D148482219-17082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Congratulatons on getting OK0EMW on the air. I'm already seeing =
"T" &gt;=20
"M" copy daytime signals from you, with quite deep QSB. Reception should =
improve=20
as darkness falls. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D148482219-17082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D148482219-17082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
estimate the QRB to be 1273 km - slightly further than GM4SLV=20
;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D148482219-17082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor RE England</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Lubom=EDr=20
  Bobal=EDk<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2007 20:08<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
  Beacon_OK0EMW<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office =
(CTO),=20
  particularly Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the =
director of=20
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experimental=20
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p;=20
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2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>Identification &#8222;Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW =
6WPM is followed by=20
  2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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(home made) +=20
  PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
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12pt">Aerial: <SPAN=20
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2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
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results of ERP=20
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  style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1"></SPAN>0.95W =
ERP<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All =
reports,=20
  snapshots and informations about signal are=20
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GE Mal!
OK, no problem, I leave beacon transmit continuously whole next day.
Your reports will be interesting.
=20
73 Lubos, OK2BVG
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:52 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW
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LUBOMIR
    leave it running daytime, esp afternoon and I will look for u. I can
hr the DI2 beacons all day vy strong, at present 599 1400 utc daylight.
73 gl mal/g3kev
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> =20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: LF: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW
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Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
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Frequency:    505.060kHz
Power:                      1W ERP max
Location:       Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:                      CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:   DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power=20
Aerial:                       Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m
horizontal sections
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The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP
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All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>GE =
Mal!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>OK, no problem, I leave beacon =
transmit
continuously whole next day. Your reports will be =
interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73 Lubos, =
OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>************************************=
*************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>hamilton mal<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August =
18, 2007
5:52 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>LUBOMIR</span></font><o:p></=
o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; leave it =
running
daytime, esp afternoon and I will look for u. I can hr the DI2 beacons =
all day
vy strong, at present 599 1400 utc =
daylight.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>73 gl =
mal/g3kev</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message =
----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz"
title=3D"lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =
title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
August 17, 2007 7:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> LF: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks to =
Czech
Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of Frequency =
Spectrum
Management and the director of this office, I have obtained permission =
for the
beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Frequency:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>505.060kHz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Power:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>1W ERP max<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Location:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Breclav, =
JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Mode:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:105.9pt;text-indent:-70.5pt'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Text:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Identification &#8222;Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA =
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Transmitter: =
<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0 </span>DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 =
with
reduced power <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aerial: <span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Inverted-L with 23m
vertical and 102m horizontal sections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The =
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:
1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0.95W =
ERP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All =
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are =
welcome!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
__________ Informace od NOD32 2469 (20070818) __________<br>
<br>
Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.<br>
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Gary, LF

Just popped into the shack and noticed your beacon appearing on my
grabber. Lots of QRN around again, but good visual report.

Cheers,

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Zitat von Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> LF,
>
> Screen grab of DI2AM, DI2BE and SM6BHZ. No sign of DI2BO on 505.150.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor SE England
>

Hello Dave,
thanks. 730km from jo43sv to Windsor.
best regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv




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Zitat von Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> 73 Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>

thanks Lubos.
vy 73
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Ok Jim,

Thanks for that, test might be bettr under better condition's ,
Gary, g4wgt, was able to  send some reports back,
main thing was there dident look to be a advantage in using a
wider shift on rtty , so 23 hz looks to be the most needed for
a non linea set up ,

Ive added a loading coil to  the Ae to day as well ,  looks like
your about 160 miles over land, so may be the ae is working
better as well . !

Tnx

Graham .

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Graham, LF Group,
>
> Your signal  has come up several dB and is now definitely visible on the
> spectrogram, but still much too weak to decode here, I'm afraid.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
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> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Thanks for the previous report's
>>
>> Ive  re-set to  psk and rtty at 23 hz shift,  Each mode approx  50 mW ,
> peak
>> stn output 100 mW.(erp)
>>
>> First reports dident show that the increase in shift from 23 to 85 hz
>> resulted in a proprtional increase in readability, so ive reverted to the
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>>
>> I'll keep it running for a couple of hours
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>> Tnx
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>> G ..
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Thanks for the info, Jean Pierre.  Perhaps JP took a vacation because he
thought I was going to leave my LF TX with him when we left St Pierre!

73
Joe

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

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> Hello Joe,Jean Pierre FP5CJ heard on 3614 kHz last night in QSO with  others
> french stations.
>
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> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
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Hello Joe,Jean Pierre FP5CJ heard on 3614 kHz last night in QSO with  others 
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Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
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Dear Group,

On Monday, a 10 watt transmitter was activated from
St Pierre using a 20 metre wire out the window of the Hotel Robert.
The signals on 136.369 kHz were copied near the post office about
1/4 km away.

CW signals from the VO1NA beacon on 189.81 kHz were copied on a
hilltop in St Pierre, spanning about 280 km. A BOG aerial was used.

Jean Pierre FP5CJ was in Miquelon on vacation at the time. Hopefully
he will be interested in future LF work.

73
Joe





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Just copied UA4WPF calling on 137.777kHz in DFCW.

A capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
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Hi Jay,

The 136.369 kHz transmissions stopped when we left St Pierre.  The 189.81
kHz beacon is still on with 8 watts at 0.4 amps to a 100m wire sending
VO1NA at 5 WPM.

73
Joe



On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Jay Rusgrove wrote:

> Joe
>
> Are the 136.369 kHz and 189.81 kHz beacons on continuous or was this a one time deal?
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> Jay
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I thought that I would resend this as I would really like some figures =
on
paths of this length.  Since I sent the e-mail yesterday it looks as if =
I
will need to provide a short report to Ofcom at the RSGB/Ofcom Forum =
that
meets quarterly in September - and the draft for that report will need =
to be
done by end-next week.  Thus, any figures on the actual performance =
achieved
on this band will be of value.  On the separate topic of 600/160 (and
perhaps 136kHz) comparison, this could usefully be tried now =
(mid-Summer) as
again it could provide some useful info.  Again ERP, S/S+N, absolute
noise-floor measurements, RX bandwidth, etc, would be key as these would =
be
the parameters that properly describe the propagation being achieved.

I need this type of info so that we stand a chance of maitaining, and
perhaps extending, our experimental basis on this frequency.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John W Gould
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Subject: LF: RE: 500 - QRP tests 14/8/07


John, this and the recent contacts with G3OLB are of interest to me, =
given
their range, as I've no doubt that Ofcom will want some feedback on what =
we
are achieving in terms of range.  We have as you know in mind to try and =
see
if they will allow us a little more ERP  (but don't hold your breath!).

I'm sorry, but I've been away a lot and often too busy when I'm at home =
to
check past e-mails, so it would be helpful to me if you could convert =
the
power levels below into ERP for me (you refer to your normal power =
providing
an aerial current that would provide an estimated 100mW ERP from your
aerial, but I'm not sure what TX power this is so can't scale the =
figures
below).

I'd be interested to know as well the estimated ERP for the G3OLB =
contact,
the nominal RX bandwidth and some indication of how easy the signal was =
to
copy (I presume that it was conventional CW).=20

You might try=20

http://www.wdc.rl.ac.uk/ionosondes/view_latest.html

and click the latest ionogram button (blank password I think)

or=20

http://www.n4gn.com/prop.html for lots of links.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager








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Dear LF Group,

The beacon on 136.319kHz operated from 2232 until 0425 utc. QRN was very
strong in the morning here.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear LF Group,

Local thunderstorms seem to have died away, although still a lot of QRN
generally. QRSS60 Beacon now running on 136.319kHz, started about 2232utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear James,
unfortunately, the last night only it: http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/137/070807-m0bmu.jpg
Andrey
KO85SV
73

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF Group,
> 
> The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since 2143utc. Let's see what
> happens...
> 
> BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the screenshots from last night.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU



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Dear Gary, LF Group,

You are S4 here in IO91VR at the moment, with deep QSB. Also seeing G0MRF,
S8,  and DI2BE, DI2AB both peaking about S3 as well.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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stopped 2300 hrs 

Tnx , G .. 



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Hello Gary,
Called you several times between 9.30/9.50pm you are 559 here in SW Wales.

73

Mike  GW4HXO

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Going for max tonight with 100 mW ERP.
Listen/watch on 503.600.
QRS03, 9 wpm CW ID, at 5 minute intervals.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Chris, LF,

I can just hear G3XIZ calling CQ on 502.3 at the moment (08:38UTC)

Very weak, but just readable by ear. Reasonable trace on the grabber,
which is what alerted my to the presence of a signal. Local noise level
pretty low, which helps!

I'm replying, but no response so far

Cheers,

John GM4SLV, Shetland




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Hi all
It would be interesting to try both bands at the same time over a given path
to compare propagation.
I am using a 1/4 wave inv L on each band, both at the same height, and can
run the same pwr if anyone else would like to try it.
This could be a useful experiment for OFCOM purposes to justify more RF on
600 metres.
73 mal/g3kev



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Hi  Laurence, Alan,
Pity about last night, will take a rest tonight see how  condx
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Time 22:20 utc
Having to close down early tonight due to overheating in matching
transformer does'nt like 180sec DFCW !
No traces seen on grabber so guess condx not so good.
thanks 73Laurie

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Time 22:20 utc<br>Having to close down early tonight due to overheating in matching transformer does&#39;nt like 180sec DFCW !<br>No traces seen on grabber so guess condx not so good.<br>thanks 73Laurie<br>

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 23:43:02 +0200
Hartmut Wolff <h-wolff@gmx.de> wrote:

> John,
> copied your signal 21:28-21:35. Nothing seen before 21:28. A capture
> can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
> > LF gang.



Thanks for the report Hartmut! 

That's very nice to see. I make it to be 1109km from IP90gg -> JO52hp

I turned off the transmission at around 21:35 UTC as I wanted an early
night - I should have hung around a bit longer!

At this latitude it doesn't become properly dark until 21:30 - at least
that's better then in mid-summer, when it doesn't get dark at all!

I will be on again tonight for a longer period. I hope to have a CW QSO
with Finbar and others.


Very glad to see your screen capture.

Best 73

John GM4SLV

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John,
copied your signal 21:28-21:35. Nothing seen before 21:28. A capture
can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp

> LF gang.

> I've now got my new short "umbrella" loaded vertical up and have it
> reasonably well matched (although the weather is playing havoc with
> keeping it tuned!)

> Have a QRSS-3 beacon running for the next couple of hours on 503.7-ish

> Reports greatly appreciated!

> Cheers,

> John GM4SLV



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LF gang.

I've now got my new short "umbrella" loaded vertical up and have it
reasonably well matched (although the weather is playing havoc with
keeping it tuned!)

Have a QRSS-3 beacon running for the next couple of hours on 503.7-ish

Reports greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
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On 16 Aug 2007 at 15:38, John W Gould wrote:

> Mal et al,  it will be an interesting comparison, but it will be the
> ERP (estimated or otherwise) that will be important, as well as some
> absolute measurement of the noise floor on each band. 

I intend to do comparisons rather later in the year, when both 500k 
and 160m will come into their own for longer distance working at 
night. But my configuration using my Butternut 10m vertical on both 
bands (not at the same time) will be an interesting experiment.

I have just recalculated ERPs using Reg's vertload.exe for each band, 
with my 150 ohms ground loss. The antenna is identical for each band 
apart from the loading coil value and the matching network.

500kHz ERP with 6W input - 5mW  (.08% efficient)
160m    ERP with 5W input - 50mW (1.12% efficient)

My experience with this antenna on top band (with 5W) in the past few 
seasons is that it is fairly good for middle Europe and some of the 
Baltic area, worked the occasional dx, but it is poor for slightly 
further out and very poor for inter G and close Europe. My 'long' 
wire (110ft bent) is much better for inter G. Which is what you would 
expect - vertical low radiation for dx, longwire skywave for shorter 
skip G.

I expect the same sort of pattern on 500 - daytime groundwave up to 
150-200 miles (probably further than top band), nighttime skywave 
comes in, high angle for inter G and low angle for the DXy stuff. On 
many paths the skywave will be stronger than the groundwave (and we 
will get the slow QSB we are already aware of on the band). Of course 
at the moment until more countries get an allocation the options for 
DX are a little limited....

On the subject of erp, it occurs to me that most of the formulae 
assume ground wave propagation with any horizontal part acting just 
as a top load. Fine if you are talking about ground wave in daylight 
with little skywave, and it is over a perfect ground (if only....). 
But those using quarter waves may like to consider whether this is 
still a reasonable assumption after dark when the main propagation is 
skywave and the ground is far from perfect. To me a quarter wave wire 
will be no more than -3dB down on a dipole and your efficiency is 
rather higher than what most of us are using.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Mal et al,  it will be an interesting comparison, but it will be the ERP
(estimated or otherwise) that will be important, as well as some absolute
measurement of the noise floor on each band.  

Incidentally, has anyone done some noise floor measurements on 136kHz now
that the Rugby LORAN has gone?

73 John, G3WKL





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Hi, Gary, LF.

Your signals just about audible here in a 24 Hz bandwidth. Screenshot
attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi LF,

Going for max tonight with 100 mW ERP.
Listen/watch on 503.600.
QRS03, 9 wpm CW ID, at 5 minute intervals.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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I need a photo of a LORAN station, preferably featuring the mast, for a=
 forthcoming article.

Can anyone point me at a suitable source, please? If you yourself have such=
 a photograph and are happy for it to be published, you would of course be=
 credited and will get a complimentary copy of the Journal..

Regards,
John Rabson
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Cave Radio & Electronics Group
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for  the  report Andrey - at the moment I am waiting for local
thunderstorms to go away before I decide to run the beacon again tonight. I
should know in an hour or so.

On 500kHz at the moment, I am copying G0MRF currently on 503.7kHz about 589
as usual, G3OLB on about 503.48 peaking about 579 with deep QSB, and GW3UEP
who is just starting to become audible on 501.15.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Thank you John - have just proved you are seeing my signal by turning it off 
for a few minutes.

73
Tom/G3OLB

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> John
>
> I've been beaconing all evening on 503.5 slow CW. According to your 
> grabber, you are either transmitting yourself on the same frequency, or 
> you are receiving me at 90dB over 9!
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
>
>> Hello LF group,
>>
>> I had another 2-way CW QSO with Finbar last evening at around 11pm Local
>> Time. His signals were on the whole a bit better than the previous night
>> and I think mine were better too at the start, although the QRN and QSB
>> eventually took me down into the noise by the end.
>>
>> During the day I did some measurements of antenna current vs TX DC input
>> power (easier to measure) and based on them (and a knowledge of PA
>> efficiency) I have graphed I^2 against Power to come up with a straight
>> line, the slope of which should correspond to overall antenna system
>> resistance.
>>
>> This has given me a set of figures from where I can quantify
>> improvements. It has also showed me that tne new antenna installation is
>> seriously in need of work!
>>
>> For 50W RF power I get 0.65A RF feed current which implies a resistance
>> of 118 ohms!!
>>
>> Other data points for powers between 4W and 50W tend to agree with this
>> figure. The best fit line is around 115 ohms.
>>
>>
>> Calculation of likely radiation resistance gives me around 0.14 ohms,
>> which might be a tad optimistic, so my EMRP will be around 50mW, for 50W
>> TX power. Obviously I need to improve this, if for no other reason than
>> that I don't particularly want to run high RF power just to heat up the
>> worms.
>>
>>
>> I will attempt to lay some more radials tonight, and add some more earth
>> rods and then remeasure current vs power.
>>
>> Hopefully the QRN will be lower this evening for another QSO attempt -
>> and hopefully make GW this time?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John, GM4SLV
>>
>>
>
> 



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I uploaded captures of G4WGT taken 20:10-22:20 and from G0MRF 23:00 until
fadeout about 03:00 to my website:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
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I've had an extremely detailed reply (direct) from John, GM4SLV, that =
will
greatly help me draft a decent paper for the Ofcom meeting.  However, as
John points out his experience is one that represents a station in a =
quiet
radio location.  To give a more balanced view it would be useful to have =
a
report from one or two stations who can provide some examples of =
estimated
(or measured) ERP levels, CW signal reports, RX and Aerial details from =
a
typical urban location where the noise level is likely to be much higher =
and
environmental factors possibly reduce the actual ERP in the far field.
Direct e-mails might be best, to save clogging up the reflector, as you =
can
then add some wav files, if you have them.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager

g3wkl@btinternet.com




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A rather odd occurence today took place on LF 137 khz. F6BWO and DK7SU had a
QSO .
This was such a surprise it was hard to believe.
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Jim

No joy here...static levels remain high.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear LF Group,
> 
> The beacon on 136.319kHz operated from 2232 until 0425 utc. QRN was very
> strong in the morning here.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
>


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LF seems reasonable at the moment - not brilliant as seen from here but wor=
th a look as the QRN is a lot lower at the moment; ill be looking at 136.31=
8-320 and 137.775-781Khz  from around sundown Eu till 2300z when the sun co=
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Cheers
Laurence
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Laurence,
Regret will not be able to beacon for a few nights.
Will advise when on again
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Laurence,<br>Regret will not be able to beacon for a few nights.<br>Will advise when on again<br>73 Laurie<br>

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:13:30 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Yes that was my signal on 503.56. I switched off at 2105Z. Thanks for
> the use of your grabber John.
> 
> 73
> Tom, G3OLB
> 

Tom, and an other LFers that use my grabber....

You're welcome, I'm sorry that my own TX experiments and operation get
in the way sometimes - even with the TX on standby with the osc running
(actually the "net" switch activates a divide by 16 that derives
the 500kHz drive from an 8MHz VFO) the leakage is enough to ruin the
grabber for others.

I've checked the level of leakage across the AE c/o relay while on
transmit and at 58W out I get -25dBm into the RX - which is S9+48dB.

Best regards and hope to have a QSO someday soon. This nightly static
is rather spoiling things at the moment up here.

Cheers,

John


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Yes that was my signal on 503.56. I switched off at 2105Z. Thanks for the 
use of your grabber John.

73
Tom, G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:20:19 +0100
> "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> John
>>
>> I've been beaconing all evening on 503.5 slow CW. According to your
>> grabber, you are either transmitting yourself on the same frequency,
>> or you are receiving me at 90dB over 9!
>>
>> 73
>> Tom G3OLB
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Sorry to disappoint, but it was the former!
>
> Just been doing some measurements on the antenna after adding more
> radials. I couldn't see anything else on the band, it being daylight, so
> I'd guess I wasn't causing any QRM to your beacon,
>
> I can see something on the grabber at about 503.56 now, but much QRN,
> will put the cans on and feed via narrow AF filter to try and identify
> it.
>
> Looks like tonight's going to be another QRN disaster.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 



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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:20:19 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> John
> 
> I've been beaconing all evening on 503.5 slow CW. According to your
> grabber, you are either transmitting yourself on the same frequency,
> or you are receiving me at 90dB over 9!
> 
> 73
> Tom G3OLB

Hi Tom,

Sorry to disappoint, but it was the former!

Just been doing some measurements on the antenna after adding more
radials. I couldn't see anything else on the band, it being daylight, so
I'd guess I wasn't causing any QRM to your beacon,

I can see something on the grabber at about 503.56 now, but much QRN,
will put the cans on and feed via narrow AF filter to try and identify
it.

Looks like tonight's going to be another QRN disaster.

Regards,

John


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John

I've been beaconing all evening on 503.5 slow CW. According to your grabber, 
you are either transmitting yourself on the same frequency, or you are 
receiving me at 90dB over 9!

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello LF group,
>
> I had another 2-way CW QSO with Finbar last evening at around 11pm Local
> Time. His signals were on the whole a bit better than the previous night
> and I think mine were better too at the start, although the QRN and QSB
> eventually took me down into the noise by the end.
>
> During the day I did some measurements of antenna current vs TX DC input
> power (easier to measure) and based on them (and a knowledge of PA
> efficiency) I have graphed I^2 against Power to come up with a straight
> line, the slope of which should correspond to overall antenna system
> resistance.
>
> This has given me a set of figures from where I can quantify
> improvements. It has also showed me that tne new antenna installation is
> seriously in need of work!
>
> For 50W RF power I get 0.65A RF feed current which implies a resistance
> of 118 ohms!!
>
> Other data points for powers between 4W and 50W tend to agree with this
> figure. The best fit line is around 115 ohms.
>
>
> Calculation of likely radiation resistance gives me around 0.14 ohms,
> which might be a tad optimistic, so my EMRP will be around 50mW, for 50W
> TX power. Obviously I need to improve this, if for no other reason than
> that I don't particularly want to run high RF power just to heat up the
> worms.
>
>
> I will attempt to lay some more radials tonight, and add some more earth
> rods and then remeasure current vs power.
>
> Hopefully the QRN will be lower this evening for another QSO attempt -
> and hopefully make GW this time?
>
> Regards,
>
> John, GM4SLV
>
> 



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Hello LF group,

I had another 2-way CW QSO with Finbar last evening at around 11pm Local 
Time. His signals were on the whole a bit better than the previous night 
and I think mine were better too at the start, although the QRN and QSB 
eventually took me down into the noise by the end.

During the day I did some measurements of antenna current vs TX DC input 
power (easier to measure) and based on them (and a knowledge of PA 
efficiency) I have graphed I^2 against Power to come up with a straight 
line, the slope of which should correspond to overall antenna system 
resistance.

This has given me a set of figures from where I can quantify 
improvements. It has also showed me that tne new antenna installation is 
seriously in need of work!

For 50W RF power I get 0.65A RF feed current which implies a resistance 
of 118 ohms!! 

Other data points for powers between 4W and 50W tend to agree with this 
figure. The best fit line is around 115 ohms.


Calculation of likely radiation resistance gives me around 0.14 ohms, 
which might be a tad optimistic, so my EMRP will be around 50mW, for 50W 
TX power. Obviously I need to improve this, if for no other reason than 
that I don't particularly want to run high RF power just to heat up the 
worms.


I will attempt to lay some more radials tonight, and add some more earth 
rods and then remeasure current vs power.

Hopefully the QRN will be lower this evening for another QSO attempt - 
and hopefully make GW this time?

Regards,

John, GM4SLV



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Signal of G3OLB becomes stronger now, but static too. I've uploades a
screenshot to my website:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
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Good copy of G4WGT in QRSS3. I've lost no sign since 20:05 of the
QRSS3 signal but only partial copy of the 6wpm message until now. This
shows QRSS is necessary on 500 kHz.

Weak copy here of G0MRF on 503.7 kHz in QRSS3.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

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Hi All,

Now starting QRP RTTY beacon, 503.600 KHz, 1 mW ERP, 23 Hz shift, 45 Bd 
speed, reports welcome.

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Your signal  has come up several dB and is now definitely visible on the
spectrogram, but still much too weak to decode here, I'm afraid.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: Dual Mode, Data Beacon test 502.5 + - 100 Hz


> Thanks for the previous report's
>
> Ive  re-set to  psk and rtty at 23 hz shift,  Each mode approx  50 mW ,
peak
> stn output 100 mW.(erp)
>
> First reports dident show that the increase in shift from 23 to 85 hz
> resulted in a proprtional increase in readability, so ive reverted to the
> original tets.
>
> I'll keep it running for a couple of hours
>
> Tnx
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>
>
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>



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Be carefull not to exceed 100 mW ... Or the danger of a short Ae ! 

http://www.abex.co.uk/index.htm

G .. 



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Hi Karl-Heinz!
I would like to send you a special OK0EMW QSL card, but I don=B4t know
your address. Can you send me this information?
Thanks!

Lubos, OK2BVG

*****************************************

-----Original Message-----
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Hello all,

seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all  audible at 20:47 UTC.

DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW

http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0708192247.jpg


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Hmmm... that happens quite a lot when I transmit on 137 kHz. Unlikely to be
a problem on 500 kHz.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:47:12 +0100
> "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> But it is probably academic now. With yet another station giving up 
>> the band last night because of a drop in activity and other reasons I 
>> feel things have past their peak. (G3XAQ, G3XIZ, G3VTT and possibly 
>> others have now gone QRT). Unless new stations come on the band for 
>> proper QSOs I shall do likewise and not waste my time
>>     
>
> Dave et al,
>
>
> I got QRV as quickly as my limited time and resources allow, just in
> time for the great exodus! 
>
> I am intending to start my incremental improvements to antenna etc. as
> the season progresses toward the ever dark winter.
>
> I'm hoping at this great distance, in the far north, that autumn/winter
> will be better for "proper QSOs" as June and July are basically 24
> hours of daylight up here. August is getting better, with night time
> starting to appear after about 11:00pm local time. 
>
> Of course where the SE stations are congregated together the vast
> difference between night & daytime propagation is unimportant for them
> to work each other seemingly at will and I guess once they've worked
> each other several times the intereset must start to wane.....
>
> For the rest of the country I think it's a bit hasty to abandon the band
> in mid-summer, when the best is yet to come, with any luck.
>
> I managed GM-GI last night, straight keys both ways, copy by ear,
> a "proper QSO". Ears are still ringing from the static crashes!
>
> Hope to work some more of the SE stations as autumn draws on and winter
> approaches, don't give up on the band just yet!
>
> Regards from the far north,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
>
>
>   
Hi John,
Heard you last night in QSO with Finbar just before bed!
Your reports:
gi4dpe 529
gm4slv 419  ..... not so good at the moment hi!

This was at about 2200hrs utc. You both went down in slow QSB after that 
and I went to bed.
Lots of static crashes. I am still using my 80/40/17m dipole unmodified.

Cheers Brian gm4jyb
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:47:12 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> 
> But it is probably academic now. With yet another station giving up 
> the band last night because of a drop in activity and other reasons I 
> feel things have past their peak. (G3XAQ, G3XIZ, G3VTT and possibly 
> others have now gone QRT). Unless new stations come on the band for 
> proper QSOs I shall do likewise and not waste my time

Dave et al,


I got QRV as quickly as my limited time and resources allow, just in
time for the great exodus! 

I am intending to start my incremental improvements to antenna etc. as
the season progresses toward the ever dark winter.

I'm hoping at this great distance, in the far north, that autumn/winter
will be better for "proper QSOs" as June and July are basically 24
hours of daylight up here. August is getting better, with night time
starting to appear after about 11:00pm local time. 

Of course where the SE stations are congregated together the vast
difference between night & daytime propagation is unimportant for them
to work each other seemingly at will and I guess once they've worked
each other several times the intereset must start to wane.....

For the rest of the country I think it's a bit hasty to abandon the band
in mid-summer, when the best is yet to come, with any luck.

I managed GM-GI last night, straight keys both ways, copy by ear,
a "proper QSO". Ears are still ringing from the static crashes!

Hope to work some more of the SE stations as autumn draws on and winter
approaches, don't give up on the band just yet!

Regards from the far north,

John GM4SLV


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Hi Dave,
Yes I agree with you about the cost of the AIM4710 but I needed it 
because of my involvement with the RadCom 'Antennas' column.

I have been using the 3M bridge with HF antennas for over 35 years after 
reading about it in June QST 1966. It can be quite accurate and able to 
measure the changes in the reactive component of impedance of a test 
resistor with different lead lengths. So simple to - I couldn't 
understand why it didn't catch on.
Not affected by big signals on the band either.

As regards 500kHz activity I recall that it was many months after NOVs 
were issued for 73kHz that we heard anyone at all.

Peter, G3LDO



Dave Sergeant wrote:
> An extensive review also appears in August QST. Nice box, but at $499 
> a lot of money even at the current exchange rates unless you have 
> another application than the MF bands.
>
> Rather less convenient but far cheaper is Peter's 3M bridge. I 
> adapted this and improved its accuracy and found it a perfectly 
> adequate method of matching my antenna. I have a detailed description 
> on my website 500kHz pages.
>
> But it is probably academic now. With yet another station giving up 
> the band last night because of a drop in activity and other reasons I 
> feel things have past their peak. (G3XAQ, G3XIZ, G3VTT and possibly 
> others have now gone QRT). Unless new stations come on the band for 
> proper QSOs I shall do likewise and not waste my time (which is a 
> pity as I am giving a talk about the band at my local club on 
> Wednesday...).
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>
>
>   



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On 6 Aug 2007 at 23:45, Peter Dodd wrote:

> The Array Solutions AIM4170 Antenna Analyzer, reviewed in Radcom July
> 07 and further described in 'Antennas' Radcom August 07, is a splendid
> tool for analyzing and setting up the resonating and matching of LF
> antennas. 

An extensive review also appears in August QST. Nice box, but at $499 
a lot of money even at the current exchange rates unless you have 
another application than the MF bands.

Rather less convenient but far cheaper is Peter's 3M bridge. I 
adapted this and improved its accuracy and found it a perfectly 
adequate method of matching my antenna. I have a detailed description 
on my website 500kHz pages.

But it is probably academic now. With yet another station giving up 
the band last night because of a drop in activity and other reasons I 
feel things have past their peak. (G3XAQ, G3XIZ, G3VTT and possibly 
others have now gone QRT). Unless new stations come on the band for 
proper QSOs I shall do likewise and not waste my time (which is a 
pity as I am giving a talk about the band at my local club on 
Wednesday...).

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Peter,
> The Array Solutions AIM4170 Antenna Analyzer, reviewed in Radcom July 07 
> and further described in 'Antennas' Radcom August 07, is a splendid tool 
> for analyzing and setting up the resonating and matching of LF antennas. 
> The internal signal source is from the DDS is programmable from 0.1MHz 
> to 170MHz so is fine for the 136 and 500kHz bands.

    How well does it perform in proximity to strong MW signals? That is the Achilles heal of many analyzers.


--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 


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The Array Solutions AIM4170 Antenna Analyzer, reviewed in Radcom July 07 
and further described in 'Antennas' Radcom August 07, is a splendid tool 
for analyzing and setting up the resonating and matching of LF antennas. 
The internal signal source is from the DDS is programmable from 0.1MHz 
to 170MHz so is fine for the 136 and 500kHz bands.
I am using my HF quad with the feeder and the quad elements resonated 
and matched against ground.
Efficiency less than -20dBi but this isn't an issue on 500kHz because 
the erp limit is so low.

At present hearing GI4DPE's CW beacon loud and clear.

Peter G3LDO
 
BTW will put details on my web site when I get it together.



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Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF Group,

The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since 2143utc. Let's see what
happens...

BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the screenshots from last night.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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Hello Marco!
That=B4s fine, thanks for the report! =20
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VY73!=20
Lubos, OK2BVG
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**************************************************************
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-----Original Message-----
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Hello Lubos,
really good copy of your beacon here in JN49ax.
Receiver -> FT-857 and PA0DRT Mini-Whip antenna.
=20
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
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  _____ =20

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Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
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Frequency:       505.060kHz
Power:             1W ERP max
Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
sections
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The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP
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All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello =
Marco!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That=B4s fine, thanks for the =
report! <span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>VY73! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lubos, =
OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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**************************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Scholz, Marco <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 17, =
2007
11:36 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RE: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hello
Lubos,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>really
good copy of your beacon here in JN49ax.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Receiver
-&gt; FT-857 and PA0DRT Mini-Whip antenna.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>vy73</span></font=
><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Marco</span></fon=
t><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>DD7PC</span></fon=
t><o:p></o:p></p>

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lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;font=
-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lubom=EDr =
Bobal=EDk<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 17 August 2007 =
21:08<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: [500] =
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks to =
Czech
Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of Frequency =
Spectrum
Management and the director of this office, I have obtained permission =
for the
beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Frequency:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>505.060kHz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Power:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>1W =
ERP max<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Location:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Breclav, =
JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Mode:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:105.9pt;text-indent:-70.5pt'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Text:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Identification &#8222;Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA =
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Transmitter: =
<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>DDS VFO (home made) + PA =
DEBEG 7121 with
reduced power <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aerial: <span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The =
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:
1'> </span>0.95W ERP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All =
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are =
welcome!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
__________ Informace od NOD32 2468 (20070817) __________<br>
<br>
Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.<br>
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GE Dave!
Thanks for nice snapshot of OK0EMW in QTH nr Windsor! I am glad I have
received two snapshots from England - from you and Gary G4WGT.=20
=20
73, Lubos, OK2BVG
=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:46 PM
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Subject: LF: RE: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW
=20
Lubos, LF,
=20
Congratulatons on getting OK0EMW on the air. I'm already seeing "T" >
"M" copy daytime signals from you, with quite deep QSB. Reception should
improve as darkness falls.=20
=20
I estimate the QRB to be 1273 km - slightly further than GM4SLV ;-)
=20
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor RE England
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=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Lubom=EDr =
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Sent: 17 August 2007 20:08
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW
=20
Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
=20
Frequency:       505.060kHz
Power:             1W ERP max
Location:         Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:             CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
sections
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The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP
=20
All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Dave!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for nice snapshot of OK0EMW =
in QTH nr
Windsor! I am glad I have received two snapshots from England &#8211; =
from you
and Gary G4WGT. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73, Lubos, =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>************************************=
*******************************<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 17, =
2007 9:46
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: RE: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Lubos,
LF,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Congratulatons
on getting OK0EMW on the air. I'm already seeing &quot;T&quot; &gt;
&quot;M&quot; copy daytime signals from you, with quite deep QSB. =
Reception
should improve as darkness falls. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I
estimate the QRB to be 1273 km - slightly further than GM4SLV =
;-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>73, Dave
G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor RE England</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lubom=EDr =
Bobal=EDk<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 17 August 2007 =
20:08<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: [500] =
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks to =
Czech
Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of Frequency =
Spectrum
Management and the director of this office, I have obtained permission =
for the
beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Frequency:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>505.060kHz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Power:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>1W =
ERP max<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Location:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Breclav, =
JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Mode:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>CW =
6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:105.9pt;text-indent:-70.5pt'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Text:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Identification &#8222;Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA =
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Transmitter: =
<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>DDS VFO (home made) + PA =
DEBEG 7121 with
reduced power <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aerial: <span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The =
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:
1'> </span>0.95W ERP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All =
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are =
welcome!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Lubos, OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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<br>
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Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.<br>
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An article in the July/August edition of New Zealand magazine Break-In, 
by Don Collie, ZL4GX has an interesting article on a noise rejecting 
receiving loop, which covers 780kHz to 3200kHz. The loop comprises eight 
turns of 1mm wire close wound on a  340mm diameter former and tuned 
remotely with a BB212 varicap diode. So far nothing unusual there. What 
is different is that it it mounted horozontally in an old aluminium 
satelite dish. The quietness comes from the screening effect of the 
dish, provided it is placed high enough above the sources of electrical 
noise that causes most of the problems.
ZL4GX points out that shielding of the feedline and receiver (including 
mains shielding) is essential or some of the advantages of the antenna 
may be lost.
Does this arrangement have merit for 136kHz or 500kHz reception in 
locations having high levels of electrical noise?

Peter G3LDO


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Jim

Not much, but there's some signal showing at 319.

http://www.w1vd.com/080607.jpg

Absent summer static, the loran line at the bottom is a fat solid white line - so you can see what
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The beacon operated from 2153 to 0421 utc last night. I expect to run =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
73  de M0BMU
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Dear LF Group,

The QRSS60 beacon has now been running since 2155utc on 136.319kHz. =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Jim

High static levels again last night took out even the strongest loran lines. Will try again tonight.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Dear LF Group,

The 136.319kHz beacon operated from 2225 until 0425 utc. I expect to run the beacon again tonight.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Jim,

I will join you at 136.318 Hz

73
Victor
PA3FNY
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens James Moritz
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  Dear LF Group,

  The 136.319kHz beacon operated from 2225 until 0425 utc. I expect to run
the beacon again tonight.

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The 136.319kHz beacon operated from 2225 until =
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Dear LF Group,

The 136.319kHz beacon operated from 2225 until 0425 utc. I expect to run =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The 136.319kHz beacon operated from 2225 until =
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Dear LF Group,

The 136.319kHz beacon is now running at 2225utc, in QRSS60 mode.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Jim,

I copied a few letters in the QRN.

73
Joe

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, James Moritz wrote:

> Dear Laurence, Jay, LF Group,
>
> Thanks for looking - The beacon closed down at about 0355utc. Will probably be out this evening again, but will try to get QRV a bit earlier tonight on the same frequency.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU


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Jim

Thanks for the info and running your beacon. We have a cold front passing through but it remains to
be seen if this will lower the static levels. Will be watching if you are QRV.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Dear Laurence, Jay, LF Group,

Thanks for looking - The beacon closed down at about 0355utc. Will probably be out this evening
again, but will try to get QRV a bit earlier tonight on the same frequency.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Dear Laurence, Jay, LF Group,

Thanks for looking - The beacon closed down at about 0355utc. Will =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Jim

Static is horrendous tonight...not much chance for a reception.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

 
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> Dear LF Group,
> 
> Thanks for the  reports from last night. I finally got the beacon going
> tonight at about 2305utc on 136.319kHz, QRSS60 as before.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 


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Jim - just started to detect as the sun came up at about the same time as y=
ou came  on, ie 2306z - very quiet this morning for a change and Im still s=
eeing/hearing Budapest thirty mins after sun rise. Signal levels were "norm=
al" but s/n was better due to less qrn. If you are on again tonight (tomorr=
ow night for you) - Ill leave the rx's on.
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
clear 82F=20
Singapore
Grabbers http://kl1x.com



> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Dat=
e: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 00:30:54 +0100> Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again> > Dear LF Gr=
oup,> > Thanks for the reports from last night. I finally got the beacon go=
ing> tonight at about 2305utc on 136.319kHz, QRSS60 as before.> > Cheers, J=
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<body><BR><BR>Jim - just started to detect as the sun came up at about the =
same time as you came&nbsp; on, ie 2306z - very quiet this morning for a ch=
ange and Im still seeing/hearing Budapest thirty mins after sun rise. Signa=
l levels were "normal" but s/n was better due to less qrn. If you are on ag=
ain tonight (tomorrow night for you) - Ill leave the rx's on.<BR>
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Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the  reports from last night. I finally got the beacon going
tonight at about 2305utc on 136.319kHz, QRSS60 as before.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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HI Jim and Group,

Your signals were strong, but not very readable because
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73
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Jim

No copy here last night. Static levels were high enough to wipe out the normally strong loran lines.
Will look again tonight if your beacon is operational.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Dear Nicholas, LF Group,

Thanks for the screenshot - the beacon operated until about 0335utc, when it was getting light here.

I will not be home until fairly late this evening, but if possible I will run the beacon again
tonight on 136.319kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello James,
in JN49 also very strong the whole night ->
http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/M0BMU_136319_030807_qrss60.jpg
Receiver: Yaesu FT-857 with PA0DRT MiniWhip
=20
regards
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

  _____ =20

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Dear LF Group,
=20
Got started with the beacon a little late at 2050utc. It is now
transmitting in QRSS60 on 136.319kHz
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
=20
=20
Strong,very strong dear Jim...
=20
Best 73 from F4DTL in JN18FP
RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini whip PA0RDT

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>F4DTL@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 August 2007 00:35<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Got started with the beacon a little late at =
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Dear Nicholas, LF Group,

Thanks for the screenshot - the beacon operated until about 0335utc, =
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I will not be home until fairly late this evening, but if possible I =
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Jim - sorry I didnt get this email till after I had retired for the night a=
nd I was "out of it"  early after a small op. Ill be back on receive again =
tonight if we can stand looking at the elec meter going to warp.
=20
Didnt have LF running last night so cant comment on conditions....
=20
73 '=20
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
grabbers http://kl1x.com


From: james.moritz@btopenworld.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Thu=
, 2 Aug 2007 19:36:09 +0100Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again



Dear LF Group,
=20
I expect to be running a beacon on 136 kHz tonight, hopefully from about 20=
30utc onwards. Since Laurie is taking a break, I will use 136.319kHz. Any r=
eports will be very welcome. For those who may be concerned, I will, as alw=
ays, be in attendance!
=20
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
_________________________________________________________________
Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more=85.then map the best rout=
e!
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=3D2&ss=3Dyp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20th=
eater&cp=3D42.358996~-71.056691&style=3Dr&lvl=3D13&tilt=3D-90&dir=3D0&alt=
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eive again tonight if we can stand looking at the elec meter going to warp.=
<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Didnt have LF running last night so cant comment on conditions....<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
73 ' <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I expect to be running a beacon on 136 kHz tonight,=
 hopefully from about 2030utc onwards. Since Laurie is taking a break, I wi=
ll use 136.319kHz. Any reports will be very welcome. For those who may be c=
oncerned, I will, as always, be in attendance!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />Fi=
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Dear LF Group,
 
Got started with the beacon a little late at 2050utc. It  is now transmitting 
in QRSS60 on 136.319kHz
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
Strong,very strong dear Jim...
 

Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT



   

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Dear LF Group,

Got started with the beacon a little late at 2050utc. It is now =
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Thanks for the signal - will be watching.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Dear LF Group,

  I expect to be running a beacon on 136 kHz tonight, hopefully from =
about 2030utc onwards. Since Laurie is taking a break, I will use =
136.319kHz. Any reports will be very welcome. For those who may be =
concerned, I will, as always, be in attendance!

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
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I expect to be running a beacon on 136 kHz tonight, hopefully from about =
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Any reports will be very welcome. For those who may be concerned, I =
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Laurie - thanks for the signals - theyve really helped me to hone the syste=
m here and go for that final dB or so. Appreciate the time given.
=20
Overall European sigs were down from the past couple of nights and certainl=
y poorer than recent times so just uncorrelated signals received from you, =
though I do need to look at the captures a bit more today after this first =
cup of coffee
=20
 I played with a rough diversity system to see if I can steer some of the t=
hor qrm out of the equation but the qrn is unsurprisingly fairly omni here =
at the moment given the local season and monsoons around me.=20
=20
Now that Ive played with two rx's, two antennaes and found that my rx s/s+n=
 signals from both are within a dB on the longhaul this is a good start. Es=
tablishing the baseline was an aim this week and Im now happy on what Im se=
eing.
=20
When we can, Ill be shoving up the  multi loop amp/remote tuned unit and  c=
ompare on this against the others and tend to use DCF39 as the source and s=
pectrumlab as the leveling tool. It may give me a couple dBs noise advantag=
e depending on the cosine rule of the local, or not so local storms.
=20
The loop cant stay up on the roof during the day as its more than an eye ca=
tcher, more like a thor catcher, so has to be taken down at dawn. This isnt=
 such a pain as I have an internal alcove and with a stressed ladder as the=
 support its just a matter of adding sections of interlocking PVC tubing to=
 take it above the roof level.=20
=20
One of the probes does keep it head above the skyline but lower that the ne=
arby tv support mast (no tv qrm!) so hoping that Ive got a cone of protecti=
on. Not lost a FET yet on any of the travels, but coax is another matter!
=20
Thanks and see you when you can come on again.=20
=20
If anyone else wants to shove out a few Watts, clean out them spiders, any =
mode any time, please shove me an email.
=20
I am looking at 500 Khz too but yet to see anything from the higher Eu ERPd=
 stations.
=20
73 all
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
Slingers at http://kl1x.com
QRV HF and LF
=20
=20
=20
=20


Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:32:40 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo: =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 AgainHi Laurence,Will transmit=
 again tonight, although Kp is up again.This will be last time for a week. =
Will keep you posted.73 Laurie
_________________________________________________________________
Missed the show?=A0 Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN.
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<body>Laurie - thanks for the signals - theyve really helped me to hone the=
 system here and go for that final dB or so. Appreciate the time given.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Overall&nbsp;European sigs&nbsp;were down from the past couple of nights an=
d certainly poorer than recent times so just uncorrelated signals received =
from you, though I do need to look at the captures a bit more today after t=
his first cup of coffee<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;I played with a rough diversity system to see if I can steer some of =
the thor qrm out of the equation but the qrn is unsurprisingly fairly omni =
here at the moment given the local season and monsoons around me. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Now that Ive played with two rx's, two antennaes and found that my rx s/s+n=
&nbsp;signals from both are within a dB on the longhaul this is a good star=
t. Establishing the baseline was an aim this week and Im now happy on what =
Im seeing.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
When we can, Ill be shoving up the&nbsp; multi loop amp/remote tuned unit&n=
bsp;and&nbsp; compare on this against the others and tend to use DCF39 as t=
he source and spectrumlab as the leveling tool. It may give me a couple dBs=
 noise advantage depending on the cosine rule of the local, or not so local=
 storms.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The loop cant stay up on the roof during the day as its more than an eye ca=
tcher, more like a thor catcher, so has to be taken down at dawn. This isnt=
 such a pain as I have an internal alcove and with a stressed ladder as the=
 support its just a matter of adding sections of interlocking PVC tubing to=
 take it above the roof level. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
One of the probes does keep it head above the skyline but lower that the ne=
arby tv support mast (no tv qrm!) so hoping that Ive got a cone of protecti=
on. Not lost a FET yet on any of the travels, but coax is another matter!<B=
R>
&nbsp;<BR>
Thanks and see you when you can come on again. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
If anyone else wants to shove out a few Watts, clean out them spiders, any =
mode any time, please shove me an email.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I am looking at 500 Khz too but yet to see anything from the higher Eu ERPd=
 stations.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
73 all<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
Slingers at <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
QRV HF and LF<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:32:40 +0100<BR>From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com=
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urence,<BR>Will transmit again tonight, although Kp is up again.<BR>This wi=
ll be last time for a week. Will keep you posted.<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQU=
OTE><br /><hr />Missed the show?=A0 Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert =
on MSN. <a href=3D'http://liveearth.msn.com' target=3D'_new'>See them now!<=
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will be looking - thanks


Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:32:40 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo: =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 AgainHi Laurence,Will transmit=
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Will keep you posted.73 Laurie
_________________________________________________________________
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Hi John
I have always said if qrs is necessary USE IT but in the majority of cases
it is not necessary. I can hear the EU beacons in qrs both day and night at
good audio QSA and  QRK and all the others that are active, so qrs is not
necessary, normal cw about 4 - 10 wpm would be suitable like the commercial
beacons around the same QRG area.
I am sure you rember we worked on CW both ends at 1413 on the 21 st july but
earlier that morning you were on qrs and I thought it would be more
convenient for you to continue on that mode, I did not realize you were
struggling on hand sent qrs 1.
Things have improved over the years where qrs 60 was the norm on 137 khz now
its qrs 3 and who knows it could be CW before long !!!!!
Sorry I missed you this morning.
I can hear DI2AM  at present 579 and he is sending CW ID frequently, hence
good id - I do not need the computer switched on.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:07:05 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > I can also hear beacons day and nite on 505.1 but no cw for ID so do
> > not know who they are.
> >  73 Mal/G3KEV
> >
> >
>
> Hi Mal, LF
>
> Strange that you can't identify the various German & Swedish QRSS
> beacons above 505.1?
>
> I seem to remember that during our first (the first ever G - GM 500 kc/s
> QSO) you actually asked me to "send in QRSS" mode so that you could get
> your report! I presumed that my weak signal on CW was too difficult to
> read but you were prepared to try any means to bag the first GM?
>
> I actually  had to send that QRSS for you by hand ( anyone ever tried
> sending callsigns and RST reports by hand in QRSS-3 ?) but was happy to
> do so to make that QSO. I guess you received it well enough as you've
> claimed GM in your DXCC 500 list!
>
> I'd have thought that if you're prepared to use QRSS to your advantage
> when necessary that you'd be able to use it to identify the odd beacon
> signal that doesn't include a "full speed" CW ident?
>
>
> I heard you calling CQ this morning on 502.5 but by the time I got a
> chance to sit at the key and reply you'd vanished?
>
> I've spent the last 1/2 hour calling CQ myself on 502.5 but nil heard.
>
> Now QRT for other chores. I've got today off work so may be around a
> bit later.
>
> On the subject of beacons : I can see the QRSS from DI2AM, as well as
> hear his CW ident by ear, up around 505.1 - so at least one of the QRSS
> beacons up there sends real CW as ID.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> John GM4SLV
>



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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:07:05 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> I can also hear beacons day and nite on 505.1 but no cw for ID so do
> not know who they are.
>  73 Mal/G3KEV
> 
>

Hi Mal, LF

Strange that you can't identify the various German & Swedish QRSS
beacons above 505.1?

I seem to remember that during our first (the first ever G - GM 500 kc/s
QSO) you actually asked me to "send in QRSS" mode so that you could get
your report! I presumed that my weak signal on CW was too difficult to
read but you were prepared to try any means to bag the first GM?

I actually  had to send that QRSS for you by hand ( anyone ever tried
sending callsigns and RST reports by hand in QRSS-3 ?) but was happy to
do so to make that QSO. I guess you received it well enough as you've
claimed GM in your DXCC 500 list!

I'd have thought that if you're prepared to use QRSS to your advantage
when necessary that you'd be able to use it to identify the odd beacon
signal that doesn't include a "full speed" CW ident?


I heard you calling CQ this morning on 502.5 but by the time I got a
chance to sit at the key and reply you'd vanished?

I've spent the last 1/2 hour calling CQ myself on 502.5 but nil heard.

Now QRT for other chores. I've got today off work so may be around a
bit later.

On the subject of beacons : I can see the QRSS from DI2AM, as well as
hear his CW ident by ear, up around 505.1 - so at least one of the QRSS
beacons up there sends real CW as ID.

Regards,


John GM4SLV


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A strong signal from Tom/G3OLB all day yesterday 549 and then abt 2000z
peaking S7. Your 1/4 wave ant on 500 doing well.
I am using a 1/4 wave here for TX at 100 ft vertical, inv L with 2 elevated
insulated radials 7 ft above ground.
I can also hear beacons day and nite on 505.1 but no cw for ID so do not
know who they are.
 73 Mal/G3KEV



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Graham.
my experience indicates it travels just as well as 500 during daytime.I can
work all around the UK and EU daytime.
73 Mal/G3KEV

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> Would have to  be at night, 1.8  wont travel that well during the day ?
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> G ..
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> > Hi all
> > It would be interesting to try both bands at the same time over a given
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> > I am using a 1/4 wave inv L on each band, both at the same height, and
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Hi LF,

While I'm at work today I'll leave my grabber running looking at
500-505.5kHz

Finbar is currently the only signal on the band (along with DI2AM and
my local SMPSU sprogs that appear occasionally)


It's at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

Ne pic get uploaded every 5 minute (you'll need to manually refresh to
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Cheers,

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Thanks folks.

Tom 'OLB

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> famous last words .. its gone off now ! big signal , cw printing on pc 
> using multipsk , 15 or mode db over the background noise on speclab, 
> nothing ealse on the band
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> G ..
>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> G3OLB CW beacon audible in Lancashire IO83qp.
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>> 73
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>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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sorry forgot DI2AM:

>DI2BO =3D 505,015
=20
>OK0EMW =3D 505.060
=20
>DI2AG =3D 505,090
=20
>SM6BHZ =3D 505,100
=20
>DI2BE =3D 505,120
=20
>DI2AM on 505.180
=20


  _____ =20

From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT]=20
Sent: 29 August 2007 07:52
To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'
Cc: 'hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com'
Subject: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20


Hello Laurence,
here a short list:
=20
>DI2BO =3D 505,015

>OK0EMW =3D 505.060

>DI2AG =3D 505,090

>SM6BHZ =3D 505,100

>DI2BE =3D 505,120

=20

regards

Marco

DD7PC


  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 29 August 2007 07:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20


Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the above
stations.
=20
ta
Laurence=20
9v1lf
=20
=20


  _____ =20

Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more....then map the best
route! Find it!
<http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=3D2&ss=3Dyp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%2=
0th
eater&cp=3D42.358996~-71.056691&style=3Dr&lvl=3D13&tilt=3D-90&dir=3D0&alt=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D874395305-29082007>sorry forgot DI2AM:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D874395305-29082007>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><BR>&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;SM6BHZ =3D 505,100</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AM on 505.180</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] <BR><B>Sent:</B> =
29 August=20
2007 07:52<BR><B>To:</B> 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
'hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and =
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on 500 kHz <BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Hello Laurence,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>here&nbsp;a short&nbsp;list:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007>
<P>&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015</P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</SPAN></P>
<P>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090</P>
<P>&gt;<SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007>SM6</SPAN>BHZ =3D 505,100</P>
<P>&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120</P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>regards</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Marco</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV></DIV>Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for =
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Hello Laurence,
here a short list:
=20
>DI2BO =3D 505,015

>OK0EMW =3D 505.060

>DI2AG =3D 505,090

>SM6BHZ =3D 505,100

>DI2BE =3D 505,120

=20

regards

Marco

DD7PC


  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Sent: 29 August 2007 07:36
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Subject: LF: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20


Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the above
stations.
=20
ta
Laurence=20
9v1lf
=20
=20


  _____ =20

Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more....then map the best
route! Find it!
<http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=3D2&ss=3Dyp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%2=
0th
eater&cp=3D42.358996~-71.056691&style=3Dr&lvl=3D13&tilt=3D-90&dir=3D0&alt=
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ene=3D950607&encType=3D1&FORM=3DMGAC01> =20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007><FONT =
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<P>&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015</P>
<P><SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</SPAN></P>
<P>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090</P>
<P>&gt;<SPAN class=3D449244905-29082007>SM6</SPAN>BHZ =3D 505,100</P>
<P>&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120</P>
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On 17 Aug 2007 at 20:40, Martyn Kinder wrote:

> If anyone wants the set, I have zipped and placed the programs onto my
> FTP site: There is also a text file that briefly states what each of
> the programs does.
> 
> ftp://ftp.czd.org.uk/pub/radio/G4FGQ.ZIP

Thanks, but I have changed all my links to point to G3YXM's copy - 
http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/page3.html
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If anyone wants the set, I have zipped and placed the programs onto my
FTP site: There is also a text file that briefly states what each of the
programs does.

ftp://ftp.czd.org.uk/pub/radio/G4FGQ.ZIP

 Regards

Martyn

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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I have just noticed that Reg G4FGQ's site, which many of us have used
for his excellent programs, has now been removed (Reg became a silent
key last year). You now either get a page not found or a confusing
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for when this happened, can anybody point me to them?

73 Dave G3YMC

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I downloaded the full set recently but not the source <bugger>.

I can zip them up and make them available if required.

Martyn

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-----Original Message-----
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73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Would have to  be at night, 1.8  wont travel that well during the day ?

G ..



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> Hi all
> It would be interesting to try both bands at the same time over a given 
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Just fade in of G3OLB beaconing on about 503.485 kHz. Signal drifting
a few Hz up and down.

73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp



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GM Hans-Joachim!
That=B4s fine, you received signal of OK0EMW and many thanks for the
report.=20
I see, my signal has been "hide" between signals from DI2 beacons. Their
signals (DI2AM especially) are very loud here.
=20
73 and GL !
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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-----Original Message-----
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Dear Lubos,

your beacon is audible here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN. Today I got your
normal morse text in a time slot when the other beacons were silent.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

  "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> schrieb:=20
Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
Frequency:       505.060kHz
Power:             1W ERP max
Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
sections
The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP
All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
Lubos, OK2BVG
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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of OK0EMW
and many thanks for the report. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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&#8222;hide&#8220;
between signals from DI2 beacons. Their signals (DI2AM especially) are =
very
loud here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of =
</span></b>hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 19, =
2007
12:41 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dear Lubos,<br>
<br>
your beacon is audible here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN. Today I&nbsp;got =
your
normal&nbsp;morse text in a time slot when the other beacons were =
silent.<br>
<br>
73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB<br>
<br>
&nbsp;</span></font> &quot;Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk&quot;
&lt;lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz&gt; schrieb: <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><u1:p>Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), =
particularly
Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this =
office, I
have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental =
operation:<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><u1:p>Frequency:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>505.060kHz<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Power:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>1W =
ERP max<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Location:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Breclav, =
JN88KS<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Mode:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:105.9pt;text-indent:-70.5pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times =
New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Text:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Identification
&#8222;Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x =
CALL
and QRA locator in QRSS3.<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Transmitter: <span style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>DDS VFO (home
made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power =
<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aerial: <span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p>The =
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:
1'> </span>0.95W ERP<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p>All =
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are =
welcome!<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p>Lubos, =
OK2BVG<u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:35.4pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p><a
href=3D"mailto:lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz">lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz</a><u1:p>=
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<br>
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<br>
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Dear Lubos,

your beacon is audible here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN. Today around
22.30 local time (I forgot the time indication in my first message, sri)
I got your normal morse text in a time slot when the other beacons were
silent.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

  "Lubom�r Bobal�k" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> schrieb:  Thanks to Czech
Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of Frequency
Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have obtained
permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation: Frequency:     
 505.060kHzPower:             1W ERP maxLocation:          Breclav,
JN88KSMode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3Text:               
Identification �Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS� in regular CW 6WPM is followed by
2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) +
PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power Aerial:              Inverted-L with
23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections The results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: 0.95W ERP All
reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome! Lubos,
OK2BVG lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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 size=2>Dear Lubos,<BR><BR>your beacon is audible here in eastern
Bavaria, JN68GN. 
Today around 22.30 local time (I forgot the time indication in 
my first message, sri) I&nbsp;got your normal&nbsp;morse text in
a time 
slot when the other beacons were silent.<BR><BR>73 Ha-Jo, 
DJ1ZB<BR><BR>&nbsp;</font>
"Lubom�r Bobal�k" &lt;lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz&gt; schrieb:
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 style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO),
particularly
Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I
have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental
operation:<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span

 style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span

 style 
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 >Frequency:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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 style 
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 >Power:<span style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>1W ERP max<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

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 style 
 ="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" 
 >Location:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Breclav,
JN88KS<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

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 >Mode:<span style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

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 ><font size=3
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 >Text:<span
 style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Identification �Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS� in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span

 style 
 ="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" 
 >Transmitter: <span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>DDS VFO (home
made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Aerial:
<span
 style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span

 style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span

 style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </span>0.95W
ERP<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are
welcome!<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:
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 ><font
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 ><font
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Dear Lubos,

your beacon is audible here in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN. Today I got your
normal morse text in a time slot when the other beacons were silent.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

  "Lubom�r Bobal�k" <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> schrieb:  Thanks to Czech
Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department of Frequency
Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have obtained
permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation: Frequency:     
 505.060kHzPower:             1W ERP maxLocation:          Breclav,
JN88KSMode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3Text:               
Identification �Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS� in regular CW 6WPM is followed by
2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) +
PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power Aerial:              Inverted-L with
23m vertical and 102m horizontal sections The results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: 0.95W ERP All
reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome! Lubos,
OK2BVG lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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size=2>Dear Lubos,<BR><BR>your beacon is audible here in 
eastern Bavaria, JN68GN. Today I&nbsp;got your normal&nbsp;morse text in
a time 
slot when the other beacons were silent.<BR><BR>73 Ha-Jo, 
DJ1ZB<BR><BR>&nbsp;</font>
"Lubom�r Bobal�k" &lt;lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz&gt; schrieb:
<blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
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<div class=Section1>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt">Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly
Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I
have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental
operation:<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt" 
 >Frequency:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>505.060kHz<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt" 
 >Power:<span style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>1W ERP max<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt" 
 >Location:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Breclav,
JN88KS<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt" 
 >Mode:<span style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 70.5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -70.5pt" 
 ><font size=3
 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" 
 >Text:<span
 style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Identification �Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS� in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt" 
 >Transmitter: <span style="mso-tab-count: 1" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>DDS VFO (home
made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Aerial:
<span
 style="mso-tab-count: 2" 
 >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style="FONT-SIZE:
 12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span
style="mso-tab-count:
 1"> </span>0.95W ERP<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are
welcome!<o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
 size=3 face ="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none" 
 ><font
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 ><font
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Very good report, Dave, thanks!
There is a lot of high buildings around my aeriel - I am quite
surprised, that you receive OK0EMW=B4s signal 559. But ... in the winter =
I
received some QRPP (0.1W ERP) stations from UK on the band 501-504kHz.
Radiowaves are unpredictable sometimes.=20

73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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On 17 Aug 2007 at 21:21, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> Well listening up there with my two ears there is total cacophony
> around that frequency. DI2AM and DI2BE both solid 579 and there is at
> least one other down below, whether it is OK0EMW I don't know....=20

OK0EMW was Q5 audible copy peaking 559 around 2115 (somewhat weaker=20
than the DI stations).

No Argo plots here.................

73 Dave G3YMC IO91PJ

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On 17 Aug 2007 at 21:21, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> Well listening up there with my two ears there is total cacophony
> around that frequency. DI2AM and DI2BE both solid 579 and there is at
> least one other down below, whether it is OK0EMW I don't know.... 

OK0EMW was Q5 audible copy peaking 559 around 2115 (somewhat weaker 
than the DI stations).

No Argo plots here.................

73 Dave G3YMC IO91PJ

http://www.davesergeant.com



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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:07:55 +0200
Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> =20
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly
> Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this
> office, I have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental
> operation:=20
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular


Just popped into the shack and seen the message

Solid copy in IP90gg - Shetland - at 2027UTC

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

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On 17 Aug 2007 at 21:07, Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:

> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly
> Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this
> office, I have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental
> operation:
> 
> Frequency:       505.060kHz

Well listening up there with my two ears there is total cacophony 
around that frequency. DI2AM and DI2BE both solid 579 and there is at 
least one other down below, whether it is OK0EMW I don't know.... 
further down the band is G0MRF beaconing (599), GI4PDE (589), 
GW3UEP(579).

Had a half QSO with Rog GW3UEP earlier - he came straight back when I 
called him after his CQ, at which time he was 579. But QSB set in and 
we lost each other very quickly. Obviously around dusk conditions are 
quite variable so you have to be quick.. but thanks for the QSO Rog, 
quite encouraging and hopefully it will be 100% next time.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Lubos,
very strong signal here in Germany, attached a screenshot of the 6wpm
signal.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp
 
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
> of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
> obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
 
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
> 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

> Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
> sections
 
> The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
> 0.95W ERP
 
> All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
 
> Lubos, OK2BVG
 
> lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
 
Frequency:       505.060kHz
Power:             1W ERP max
Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power

Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
sections
 
The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
0.95W ERP
 
All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
 
Lubos, OK2BVG
 
lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
 
 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly =
Department
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental =
operation:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>1W =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Location:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>Breclav, =
JN88KS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Mode:<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:70.5pt;text-indent:-70.5pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Text:<span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Identification &#8222;Beacon
OK0EMW JN88KS&#8220; in regular CW 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA =
locator
in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Transmitter: <span style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>DDS VFO (home
made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aerial: <span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:2'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
</span>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and
102m horizontal sections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The =
results of ERP
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:
1'> </span>0.95W ERP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All =
reports,
snapshots and informations about signal are =
welcome!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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Jim

Didn't get the message that you were running the beacon until this morning so didn't run captures
last night...

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: 137 condx fair/poor / 503kHz beacons


Dear LF Group,

That e-mail took a while to arrive... The beacon operated from 2143 until 0432 utc last night on
136.319kHz.

I looked  for GM4SLV's signal on 503.75kHz last night, but did not see anything recognisable - it
was still getting dark when John shut down, however, and I missed the later brief transmission. A
little after 2100utc GI4DPE was very strong here, with the usual fades over a period of some
minutes. Also worked Colin, G3VTT, before he went QRT.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:26 PM
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  Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF Group,

  The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since 2143utc. Let's see what happens...

  BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the screenshots from last night.

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU



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Hi, Dave.

It was a bit of a weak report, considering the distance. By ear, he was
about the same s/n as G3KEV's daytime signal.

On my TX antenna, my local noise level sits around -73 dBm, which is S5, and
G4ADR wasn't moving the meter on my ICOM.

I've replaced the coax that runs down the garden with LDF 4-50(!) to reduce
losses and pick-up of rubbish, and the next job is to sort out my tuned
loop, which should improve s/n on receive. Trouble is, it's deaf, so I need
to open up the tuning box and see why it doesn't work.

Also copied G3UNT at 589 this afternoon.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91rM

-----Original Message-----
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On 11 Aug 2007 at 14:19, Dave G3WCB wrote:

>
> Just caught the end of G4ADR (I think) calling CQ on 502.00. RST 539
> here.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England
>
>

G4ADR is in Thame, I copy him quite well (579) but he doesn't seem to
have built his receiver yet. Should be quite a lot stronger than 539
with you.

Dave


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On 11 Aug 2007 at 14:19, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> 
> Just caught the end of G4ADR (I think) calling CQ on 502.00. RST 539
> here.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England
> 
> 

G4ADR is in Thame, I copy him quite well (579) but he doesn't seem to 
have built his receiver yet. Should be quite a lot stronger than 539 
with you.

Dave


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Just caught the end of G4ADR (I think) calling CQ on 502.00. RST 539 here.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England



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QRSS   1WPM   BEACON TEST 502,5 , 

Testing  re configured Ae system 

reports ?

Tnx . G ..

IO83LK 




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John, Yes same erp.

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> Mal et al,  it will be an interesting comparison, but it will be the ERP
> (estimated or otherwise) that will be important, as well as some absolute
> measurement of the noise floor on each band.  
> 
> Incidentally, has anyone done some noise floor measurements on 136kHz now
> that the Rugby LORAN has gone?
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> 73 John, G3WKL
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Graham,
Will try to get a photo tomorrow, but the basic antenna can be seen on =
my webpage(4m page)  it is carrying the 4m beam!
It is a bit extended though HI www.dc2light.co.uk=20
Still some improvements possible, and I have to get the ATH wired up =
properly, cables thru window HI
Converter needs putting in a box too!
Looks like I can hear enough in this noisy location to warrant an NOV =
application, so I will have to finish the TX hi

PS 10GHz is Ok for crossband here :<)))
I have 40W to a 35cm dish, shd get to Liverpool OK
40m is probably better, 80m at a push, (5Rv is not happy on 80m or below
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Mark, Things are looking up hihi=20

  The 'top' loading looks to be a usefull improvement to the array, I =
added a section to  the inverted L and found quite a improvement ... you =
have a photo you can add to  the -ng- ?=20

  G ..=20

  Ps ...  x band  =3D 10 GHz ?=20


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    G3KEV here 549 deep QSB
     antenna seems to be wkg!
    Also now have Xband capability to HF, as converter is to 2m
    Mark
    GM4ISM

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      g3kev calling cq , 502.5 ,  copy  549 / 449  speaker copy at =
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      nr liverpool io83lk=20

      Graham ..=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is a bit extended though HI <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Converter needs putting in a box =
too!</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV here 549 deep =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Tom Boucher wrote:

> Thanks John
> 
> I'm not set up for QRSS but I will leave the thing beaconing relatively slow
> CW late this evening on about 503.5 plus or minus Finbar. Not keen on leaving
> it on after bed-time so will probably QRT around 11 pm.
> 
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
> 


Tom,LF,

I will be around (fingers crossed) all evening on and off, with main 
operating time somewhere around 1030 to midnight (local time). I'll 
listen out for you during the earlier evening too.

Although I have a rather inefficient antenna at the moment - only been 
up since Sunday and in a new field so not had time to lay many radials 
out yet - I can pump enough power in to get my ERP quota.

I'd prefer CW over QRSS anyday too but it's a convenient way of getting 
reports when (like me) you're so far from the action!


Regards,

John GM4SLV


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Thanks John

I'm not set up for QRSS but I will leave the thing beaconing relatively slow 
CW late this evening on about 503.5 plus or minus Finbar. Not keen on 
leaving it on after bed-time so will probably QRT around 11 pm.

73
Tom G3OLB

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> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Tom Boucher wrote:
>
>> John
>>
>> It's not seeing me during daylight - any chance of having it on after 
>> dark
>> this evening?
>> 73,
>> Tom G3OLB, Devon
>>
>
>
> Hi Tom, LF
>
> At this range (Shetland to Devon - must be approx 650 miles) I'm not
> surprised that you aren't visible in the daytime.
>
> I hope to be active this evening past the onset of darkness conditions,
> which seems to be after 10:30pm local time.
>
> With any luck we might even manage a QSO on straight CW.
>
> I'll just leave the grabber running throughout - so the picture you'll
> see on the web will either be what I'm seeing off air or what the RX
> sees of my own signal while I'm transmitting.
>
> I'm very keen to try a QSO, from all accounts you have quite an
> efficient antenna (unlike my own humble affair) so I should at least
> hear you.
>
> Regards,
>
> John, Shetland, IP90gg
> 



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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Tom Boucher wrote:

> John
> 
> It's not seeing me during daylight - any chance of having it on after dark
> this evening?
> 73,
> Tom G3OLB, Devon
> 


Hi Tom, LF

At this range (Shetland to Devon - must be approx 650 miles) I'm not 
surprised that you aren't visible in the daytime.

I hope to be active this evening past the onset of darkness conditions, 
which seems to be after 10:30pm local time.

With any luck we might even manage a QSO on straight CW.

I'll just leave the grabber running throughout - so the picture you'll 
see on the web will either be what I'm seeing off air or what the RX 
sees of my own signal while I'm transmitting.

I'm very keen to try a QSO, from all accounts you have quite an 
efficient antenna (unlike my own humble affair) so I should at least 
hear you. 

Regards,

John, Shetland, IP90gg


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John

It's not seeing me during daylight - any chance of having it on after dark 
this evening?
73,
Tom G3OLB, Devon

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi LF,
>
> While I'm at work today I'll leave my grabber running looking at
> 500-505.5kHz
>
> Finbar is currently the only signal on the band (along with DI2AM and
> my local SMPSU sprogs that appear occasionally)
>
>
> It's at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> Ne pic get uploaded every 5 minute (you'll need to manually refresh to
> see new ones)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV IP90gg, Clousta, Shetland Is
>
> 



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Thanks Graham ....there was a lot of static down here last night.

Tom

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> 503.6 .. G3OLB .. JUST ON CANS 
> 
> JUST GETTING CALL WITH CANS ON .. 503.6  
> 
> GRAHAM 
> 
> IO83LK
> 
>>
> 
>


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On 7 Aug 2007 at 9:46, James Moritz wrote:

> That e-mail took a while to arrive.

It looks like they got trapped in your AVG scanner.....

Look at the headers. AVG reports receiving it from your computer 
(127.0.0.1) at 2326 last night. But it was not received by the 
btinternet pop3 server until 0808 this morning. Presumably you had 
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:07:13 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Excellent John. Many thanks for a good QSO. At the end, at about
> 2104, you were perfectly Q5, 549 by ear. Quite a lot of slow QSB on
> you. I suppose that's about the best DX we can achieve at present?
> 
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
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>

Tom, LF

I suppose Tom's right about the best DX workable, for now. 

You might want to try drawing a 1000km radius circle on a map
centred on your QTH and see how far away I am in relation to most of
Europe!

Thanks again and hope to repeat the feat with slightly easier copy at
your end. I've had regular QSOs this weekend with Finbar, but he's
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Excellent John. Many thanks for a good QSO. At the end, at about 2104, you 
were perfectly Q5, 549 by ear. Quite a lot of slow QSB on you. I suppose 
that's about the best DX we can achieve at present?

73
Tom G3OLB

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> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:20:24 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the
>> stns in bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your
>> about 549 with slow qsb.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Graham ..
>>
>>
>
>
> RST 549 up here Tom if you fancy a try at a QSO, time now 20:42UTC
>
> John GM4SLV
> Shetland
> 



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Ok Tom,

Yes I see the beacon back on freq, also a qsy at the start ? not seeing 
anything on 501.1 , skip distance on the band looks to be very defined , 
quite 'odd' really.

Yes thers not a lot about , Ive a list of beacon stations on the google 
group , but it looks as if its a bit out of date ! I can only add what I can 
see !

 GW3UEP has changed frequency ? the beacon list has him on  501.5 , check 
your entry , the sites open, if you know any other frequencys , pleas add or 
amend them,

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule

Tnx

Graham ..




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> Thanks again Graham - the band is not exactly buzzing with activity - 
> GW3UEP is peaking 599 with quite deep QSB down on about 501.1. I'm back in 
> 'beacon' mode for about half an hour or so. Need to get some more stations 
> active.
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the stns 
>> in bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your about 549 
>> with slow qsb.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Graham ..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 559 , qsb , io83lk
>>
>>
>>> Thank you Graham & John,
>>>
>>> There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
>>> fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some 
>>> actual QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Tom G3OLB
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 559 , qsb , io83lk
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
>>>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> G3OLB ,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>>>>> level , no problems ,
>>>>>
>>>>> G ..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
>>>> ear!)
>>>>
>>>> John GM4SLV
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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OK John - PC is not in my shack so have to come indoors to read e-mails!
I will call you now without changing frequency and listen on my frequency.
Time now 2147

Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:20:24 +0100
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> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the
>> stns in bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your
>> about 549 with slow qsb.
>> 
>> Rgds
>> 
>> Graham ..
>> 
>>
> 
> 
> RST 549 up here Tom if you fancy a try at a QSO, time now 20:42UTC
> 
> John GM4SLV
> Shetland
>


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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:20:24 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the
> stns in bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your
> about 549 with slow qsb.
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Graham ..
> 
>


RST 549 up here Tom if you fancy a try at a QSO, time now 20:42UTC

John GM4SLV
Shetland


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Thanks again Graham - the band is not exactly buzzing with activity - GW3UEP 
is peaking 599 with quite deep QSB down on about 501.1. I'm back in 'beacon' 
mode for about half an hour or so. Need to get some more stations active.

73
Tom G3OLB

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> Tom,
>
> Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the stns 
> in bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your about 549 
> with slow qsb.
>
> Rgds
>
> Graham ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 559 , qsb , io83lk
>
>
>> Thank you Graham & John,
>>
>> There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
>> fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some actual 
>> QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).
>>
>> 73
>> Tom G3OLB
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:27 PM
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>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
>>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> G3OLB ,
>>>>
>>>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>>>> level , no problems ,
>>>>
>>>> G ..
>>>>
>>>
>>> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
>>> ear!)
>>>
>>> John GM4SLV
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Tom,

Have you on the speaker as I type this calling cq, 503.55 ?  but the stns in 
bits , working on the 'new' exciter cannot reply , but your about 549 with 
slow qsb.

Rgds

Graham ..


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> Thank you Graham & John,
>
> There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
> fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some actual 
> QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 559 , qsb , io83lk
>
>
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
>> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> G3OLB ,
>>>
>>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>>> level , no problems ,
>>>
>>> G ..
>>>
>>
>> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
>> ear!)
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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David,
attached a screenshot showing your CW signal captured here in Germany
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to my website later the day.

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Hello LF,

I've been experimenting with a system to make field strength 
measurements, with the goal of estimating ERP. 

I found some information on characterising a single turn untuned loop, 
in terms of its "antenna factor" - relating incident field strength to 
terminated signal voltage - and set to with the pocket calculator and an 
excel spreadsheet.

I know there is a design for a FSM out there that use a ferrite rod 
antenna and requires calibration with a pair of Helmzholtz coils. I'm 
too lazy to build both the RX/meter/antenna AND a calibration facility!

I've written a short note describing the maths behind my setup, which is 
at http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/gm4slv/500kHzERP.pdf


I've made lots of measurements within 1.5km of my site - an uncluttered 
rural area - and get reasonably consistent results. I now estimate that 
I need 15W TX power to achieve 100mW ERP (55mW EMRP).

This morning I made measurements of field strength between 450m and 13km 
(admittedly over 8km I was at the limit of sensitivity and needed to 
switch in the RX pre-amp).

I find that out to the limit of my immediate locality, where the path 
back to the TX antenna is unobstructed by hills, my ERP calculates out 
to be 100mW (3 results = 98, 101, 100).

At 4.3km I was at the wrong side of a hill, and a small village, and the 
ERP came out at only 57mW - field strength was lower than to be expected 
given the distance - extra path loss....

At 8km I was higher up, but still further away and across more rocks and 
hills, and ERP came out at 36mW.

At 10.7km I was back at sea level the wrong side of a large mass of rock 
and across a sea loch (known as a "voe" in Shetland), ERP calculated to 
28mW

These lower calculated ERPs are consistent with lossy ground of around 
1mS/m  over the path. Totally unscientific I'm sure.

I'm now happy to use readings within my immediate surroundings, out to 
3km, and be confident that the results are reasonable. 


For the record I'm now using no more than 15W transmitter power for all 
operation. 

Antenna is 11m vertical with 4 short sloping capacity wires of 3.5m 
length (ie not much top loading).

Feed current is around 0.55A from 15W, ground loss resistance comes out 
at around 50 ohms.

For 100mW ERP (55mW EMRP) and feed current of 0.55A I calculate Rrad = 
0.18 ohms

This seems reasonable. The capacity hat is raising the Rrad from an 
estimated 0.14 ohms for a bare 11m vertical to 0.18 - a gain of 
20log(0.18/0.14) = 2.2dB

I'm impressed that I can detect the effects of excess ground losses over 
the propagation path - which lead to E-field reducing at a rate greater 
than than 1/D - once I get out of "line of sight" path conditions, 
although they aren't "line of sight" in an optical sense but rather that 
no large rock or other structures get in the way, just gently rolling 
heathery peat/farm land.


I now at least hope I'm within a few dB of 100mW ERP as far as I can 
tell.


Cheers,

John



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Hello Laurence,

DI2BO currently is transmitting 24/7 on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3 / 6 WPM CW =
ID but only with an ERP of 1.7 mW (!) so it might be a real challenge =
for you ...

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz


  Thanks to all those who have replied direct/indirect - I just dont =
know if they are on +24hrs or not...
  =20
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    Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:54:10 +0100
    From: marco.scholz@citi.com
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    Subject: LF: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20


    sorry forgot DI2AM:

    >DI2BO =3D 505,015

    >OK0EMW =3D 505.060

    >DI2AG =3D 505,090

    >SM6BHZ =3D 505,100

    >DI2BE =3D 505,120

    >DI2AM on 505.180




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    Subject: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20


    Hello Laurence,
    here a short list:

    >DI2BO =3D 505,015
    >OK0EMW =3D 505.060
    >DI2AG =3D 505,090
    >SM6BHZ =3D 505,100
    >DI2BE =3D 505,120
    =20
    regards
    Marco
    DD7PC




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    Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the =
above stations.
    =20
    ta
    Laurence=20
    9v1lf
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hello Laurence,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>DI2BO currently is transmitting 24/7 on 505.015 =
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QRSS3 / 6 WPM CW ID but only with an ERP of 1.7 mW (!) so it might be a =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best 73</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO</FONT></DIV>
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2007 10:30=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO =
and SM6BHZ=20
  on 500 kHz</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks to all those who have replied direct/indirect - =
I just=20
  dont know if they are on +24hrs or=20
  not...<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <HR id=3DEC_stopSpelling>
    Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:54:10 +0100<BR>From: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">marco.scholz@citi.com</A><BR>To: =
<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>CC:=20
    <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com">hellozerohellozero@hotmail=
.com</A><BR>Subject:=20
    LF: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz <BR><BR>
    <META content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML" name=3DGenerator>
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    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN =

    class=3DEC_874395305-29082007>sorry forgot =
DI2AM:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT=20
    face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3DEC_874395305-29082007>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><BR>&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;SM6BHZ =3D 505,100</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AM on 505.180</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN =

    class=3DEC_874395305-29082007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff></FONT><BR>
    <DIV class=3DEC_OutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft>
    <HR>
    <FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] =
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29=20
    August 2007 07:52<BR><B>To:</B> =
'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
    'hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DI2BE, DI2BO =
and=20
    SM6BHZ on 500 kHz <BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff>Hello Laurence,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff>here&nbsp;a short&nbsp;list:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>&gt;DI2BO =3D=20
    505,015<BR><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>&gt;OK0EMW =3D=20
    505.060</SPAN><BR>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090<BR>&gt;<SPAN=20
    class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>SM6</SPAN>BHZ =3D 505,100<BR>&gt;DI2BE =
=3D=20
    505,120<BR><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;<BR><SPAN=20
    class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff>regards</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN=20
    class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff>Marco</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN =
class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT=20
    face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>DD7PC</FONT></SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR>
    <DIV class=3DEC_OutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft>
    <HR>
    <B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Laurence=20
    KL1X<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29 August 2007 07:36<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: DI2BE, DI2BO and =
SM6BHZ=20
    on 500 kHz <BR><BR></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes =
for the=20
    above stations.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>ta<BR>Laurence=20
    <BR>9v1lf<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>
    <HR>
    Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more=85.then map the =
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:35:41 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> LF, John, Finbar,
> 
> I was ear-wigging your tests last night, and I've attached a
> screengrab from around 2245z, when the GM4SLV signal was starting to
> gain strength with me. I was catching snatches of John's
> transmission, but I really need a couple of dBs more s/n ratio for Q5
> copy.
> 
> Finbar's signal went from just audible at 2015z to rock-crushing by
> 2045z - it was almost like flipping a switch, the transition was so
> rapid. Finbar's signal continued at 599 levels all evening, with just
> a couple of sharp fades.
> 
> John, have you looked for the G0MRF beacon on 503.700? It's a
> sequence of 5 wpm CW, QRSS3 and PSK31, and it's running more or less
> continuously at quite low power.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 


Dave, LF,

Thanks for the report. Very encouraging! Perhaps autumn/winter will
bring the extra few dB needed. Or OFCOM will give us them to play with?

Tonight the conditions were very difficult - we had to abandon the QSO
due to extreme static noise after exchanging reports. 

I've looked for G0MRF, but not too intently. I will try harder when the
QRN dies down a bit another night.

All the best and 73

John GM4SLV


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LF, John, Finbar,

I was ear-wigging your tests last night, and I've attached a screengrab from
around 2245z, when the GM4SLV signal was starting to gain strength with me.
I was catching snatches of John's transmission, but I really need a couple
of dBs more s/n ratio for Q5 copy.

Finbar's signal went from just audible at 2015z to rock-crushing by 2045z -
it was almost like flipping a switch, the transition was so rapid. Finbar's
signal continued at 599 levels all evening, with just a couple of sharp
fades.

John, have you looked for the G0MRF beacon on 503.700? It's a sequence of 5
wpm CW, QRSS3 and PSK31, and it's running more or less continuously at quite
low power.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
Pumford-Green GM4SLV
Sent: 15 August 2007 15:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: 500 - QRP tests 14/8/07


Hello LF,

LAst night GI4DPE and GM4SLV once again tried some QRP reception tests.

Initially signals on the band were good (Gary G4WGT was a nice readable
signal up here) and after initial reports at normal powers I reduced TX
power to :

10W
1W
500mW
250mW
100mW
50mW

At each level down to 100mW Finbar was able to copy some or all of what
I sent and at 50mW he was able to detect snatches of long dashes.

ERP was obviously much below 100mW for all these tests, as my normal TX
power is just sufficient to drive my very short antenna to the current
needed for estimated 100mW ERP.

I returned power to normal but unstability in propagation started, deep
QSB and some QRN, so we forgo the re-run of the previous night's QRPp
from GI. We were able to hold (despite the varying signals) a QSO for
over 1 hour unitl just after midnight localtime. Each of us also called
CQ during the QSO to see if any other stations were interested in
reports etc, but nothing was heard.

I received email confrimation that my signals were heard my Mike G3YPE
in Homfirth, W.Yorks and by Mike G3GMS near Cullercoats in
Northumberland. Obviously both stations had no difficulty hearing
Finbar!

We intend to try again tonight, 11pm local time.

If anyone knows of website where daily records of geomagnetic / solar
data can be retrieve I'd be grateful. I want to start noting the salient
data alongside my notes etc. in case I can spot any correlation between
the signal quality and the various measures of likely propagation
(SFI/A/K/SSN etc)

Regards,
John GM4SLV


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Dear Andrey,
Many thanks for your capture of my DFCW signal last night.
It is interesting to see the signal as received a long way away.
73 Laurie G3AQC

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Dear Andrey,<br>Many thanks for your capture of my DFCW signal last night.<br>It is interesting to see the signal as received a long way away.<br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 22/08/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Andrey RN3AGC</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru">rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello Laurie,
<br>your beacon last night 22.17z.<br>loc: ko85sv<br>73<br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hi Lubos,

If the antenna is small compared to wavelength (longwave), there is
not much difference between L and T as long as the top wires have
the same length in both cases.

73
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Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hi All om=B4s!
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> I changed my antenna from "T" to "L", all is OK, but I have not softwar=
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> I am sure, program for "T" ant calculation is somewhere on Internet, bu=
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Hi All om=B4s!
I changed my antenna from "T" to "L", all is OK, but I have not software
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Hi LF.

qrss3-signal of Jeff F6BWO this morning on 137.7KHz at 0922utc in JO51TQ

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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:41:07 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Many thanks Hartmut & Jim. I'm closing down now 2141Z.
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> 73
> Tom G3OLB
> 

Tom, LF

I can see traces of your signal on the waterfall and can read the
occasional callsign as it fades up under the S7-9 static crashes.

I've been alternately listening/watching the band and calling CQ on
502.5. Nothing else seen or heard as yet.

Regards,

John, GM4SLV, Shetland IP90gg


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Many thanks Hartmut & Jim. I'm closing down now 2141Z.

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Signal of G3OLB becomes stronger now, but static too. I've uploades a
> screenshot to my website:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>


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Hi ... All 

Location  IO83LK 

Running psk31  stream cent frequency , 502.500 . 

also testing new ae layout

reports welcome

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Thank you Graham & John,

There was a lot of QRN last night down here in Devon so after a few 
fruitless CQs I put it in beacon mode. Perhaps we can try for some actual 
QSOs tonight! I will be listening intently from 2000 (9 pm BST).

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
> "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> G3OLB ,
>>
>> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
>> level , no problems ,
>>
>> G ..
>>
>
> RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
> ear!)
>
> John GM4SLV
> 



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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:15:08 +0100
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> G3OLB ,
> 
> Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that
> level , no problems ,
> 
> G .. 
> 

RST 439 here in Shetland Tom, (No s-meter involved...proper report, by
ear!)

John GM4SLV


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G3OLB ,

Cw copy from loudspeaker , 559 , qsb , could have a qso at that level , no 
problems ,

G .. 




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Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF Group,

The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since 2143utc. Let's see what =
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BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the screenshots from last night.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since =
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Heard gw3uep calling cq.
report 319 at 2120z. moderate QRN.

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Peter,

Thanks for the info. I was a late starter on 500 after much thinking
about the likelyhood of it being useable from this range.

ALso -  I wasn't really sure whether to get going on the band in
mid-summer - especially from this northern latitude, where it doesn't
actually get dark in May, June & July. 

Things are starting to improve, and I thought I'd at least use these
few weeks of "summer" to work on an antenna of sorts and try to work a
few stations.

I look forward to working you when you come back on the band

Regards,

John




On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:35:12 EDT
ColePe@aol.com wrote:

>  
> John, 
>  
> for info I am not active at the moment but should be back on next
> month with a better aerial and more power.  My qth is not very good
> for lf  band working and lots of cq calls and beaconing over a 3
> week  period with 5 watts output produced only 2 qso's  (with G3OLB
> who is relatively local and G3AQC in Chichester), plus a single
> reception report from the Torbay area.  I'm  hoping that propagation
> will improve in the autumn/winter months. 
> Peter, G3JFS
>  
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 14/08/2007 18:01:40 Greenwich Standard Time,  
> gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:
> 
> On Tue,  14 Aug 2007 18:13:22 +0100
> "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>  wrote:
> 
> > LF, John and Tom,
> > 
> > Congratulations on the  DX contact, but there is someone a bit
> > further away! G3JFS in Plymouth  is in IO70WJ, and I make the
> > distance to be about 1109 km. Peter has  been active on 500 kHz,
> > but I don't know if he is currently  QRV.
> > 
> > Static levels are low in the SE today, so I will be  listening later
> > on this evening.
> > 
> > 73, Dave G3WCB  IO91RM
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info Dave,
> 
> I haven't heard G3JFS yet,  but I await his appearance with baited
> breath, and key at the  ready!
> 
> I should be QRV at 11pm BST with Finbar. Any reports gladly  received,
> and even better would be some others to join in, during or after,
> with either/both of us.
> 
> There are some static crashes building now,  but hopefully short
> lived...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    


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John, 
 
for info I am not active at the moment but should be back on next  month with 
a better aerial and more power.  My qth is not very good for lf  band working 
and lots of cq calls and beaconing over a 3 week  period with 5 watts output 
produced only 2 qso's  (with G3OLB who is relatively local and G3AQC in  
Chichester), plus a single reception report from the Torbay area.  I'm  hoping that 
propagation will improve in the autumn/winter months.
 
Peter, G3JFS
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 14/08/2007 18:01:40 Greenwich Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On Tue,  14 Aug 2007 18:13:22 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>  wrote:

> LF, John and Tom,
> 
> Congratulations on the  DX contact, but there is someone a bit further
> away! G3JFS in Plymouth  is in IO70WJ, and I make the distance to be
> about 1109 km. Peter has  been active on 500 kHz, but I don't know if
> he is currently  QRV.
> 
> Static levels are low in the SE today, so I will be  listening later
> on this evening.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB  IO91RM


Thanks for the info Dave,

I haven't heard G3JFS yet,  but I await his appearance with baited
breath, and key at the  ready!

I should be QRV at 11pm BST with Finbar. Any reports gladly  received,
and even better would be some others to join in, during or after,  with
either/both of us.

There are some static crashes building now,  but hopefully short  lived...

Cheers,

John








   

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:13:22 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> LF, John and Tom,
> 
> Congratulations on the DX contact, but there is someone a bit further
> away! G3JFS in Plymouth is in IO70WJ, and I make the distance to be
> about 1109 km. Peter has been active on 500 kHz, but I don't know if
> he is currently QRV.
> 
> Static levels are low in the SE today, so I will be listening later
> on this evening.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Thanks for the info Dave,

I haven't heard G3JFS yet, but I await his appearance with baited
breath, and key at the ready!

I should be QRV at 11pm BST with Finbar. Any reports gladly received,
and even better would be some others to join in, during or after, with
either/both of us.

There are some static crashes building now, but hopefully short lived...

Cheers,

John


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LF, John and Tom,

Congratulations on the DX contact, but there is someone a bit further away!
G3JFS in Plymouth is in IO70WJ, and I make the distance to be about 1109 km.
Peter has been active on 500 kHz, but I don't know if he is currently QRV.

Static levels are low in the SE today, so I will be listening later on this
evening.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:07:13 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Excellent John. Many thanks for a good QSO. At the end, at about
> 2104, you were perfectly Q5, 549 by ear. Quite a lot of slow QSB on
> you. I suppose that's about the best DX we can achieve at present?
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>
>

Tom, LF

I suppose Tom's right about the best DX workable, for now.

You might want to try drawing a 1000km radius circle on a map
centred on your QTH and see how far away I am in relation to most of
Europe!

Thanks again and hope to repeat the feat with slightly easier copy at
your end. I've had regular QSOs this weekend with Finbar, but he's
almost a local at just over 600km!

Cheers again

John







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Hello LFers,

I didn't get any mail this evening upon retirning home from work.
If this post gets thru, at least I'll no the reflector is operational!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Hi,

I do agree totally with Alan's comments & some of the points other authors 
have made in respect of 500 KHz being an "Experimental Allocation".

Bearing this in mind all permittable modes should be catered for whether by 
"Gentlemanly Conduct" or "Band Plan".
I will support both of these arrangements & will to continue with my own 
"Experiments" in my own way in compliance with my SRP NoV conditions.

A simple band plan similar to my attached revision (again for discussion) 
could be adopted.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Permit Allocation conditions


> With the realisation that this is not a limited access reflector and 
> anyone
> can join and monitor the traffic. Let us assume that an official from 
> Ofcom
> has decided to see how their Experimental Permit users are getting along,
> and subscribes to the Group.
>
> What does he hear today but a lot of moaning about not being able to 
> operate
> if there are more than two signals in the 4khz allocation and suggestion 
> of
> limiting it to manual morse (Note QRSS is "CW" !) Where he thinks are all
> those innovative people who were going to people this allocation with 
> novel
> techniques for using the low power allowed and coexisting in the narrow
> allocation. As a professional in the field where manual morse has beed
> phased out he may be forgiven for thinking that there is no 
> experimentation
> going on and that there will be no need to extend the permit when it 
> lapses
> next year. Anyway if the operatiors have no use for a 4khz chunk then what
> point is there in considering an allocation here are there are no larger
> slots available?.
>
> Yes they dont think like amateurs in the "corridors of power"
>
> One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
> country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
> could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
> Jose-Manual yet !
>
> I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
> into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be 
> sinking
> a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
> all.....dont mess it up !
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
> 

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Hello LFers,

I've been reading the mail on this reflector for months and always
find it informative, be the subject technical, operational, or even
something more obscure.

I've found it disturbing to read the postings of late concerning the
use of the slice of spectrum that you fellows have temporarily
been given access to.

I think that we as amateurs need to keep in mind that what we do
is for pleasure, as in any hobby.  Some of us are operators, some
are experimenters, and some enjoy both, as well as other aspects
of our great hobby.

Without appearing to be biased, I do have to say that I agree with
the comments of Alan Melia and Jim Moritz regarding the use of
the 500 kHz. "band".  However, I think that there is room for
everyone if we all remember to be gentlemen.

Thanks for letting me comment from across the pond.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hi All ,

This "Lightning Observation" site as well.

http://meteocentre.com/lightning/map_sfuk.php?time=0&lang=en&map=AEuropeNW

73

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> Hello Dave et al,
>
> An other usefull site is:
>
> http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rsfloc.gif
>
> where you get a picture of thunderstorm activity over Europe.
> It does not look too bad at present, though there is a nasty spot over the 
> middle of England.
>
> It often helped me to decide wether to listen or to solder (reading a good 
> book is another option).
>
> On another note, I have been monitoring Finbar's signal for a short while 
> last night and it peaked 30 dB over my noise floor.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
> Middelburg Netherlands
> JO11tm
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Hello Dave et al,

An other usefull site is:

http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rsfloc.gif

where you get a picture of thunderstorm activity over Europe.
It does not look too bad at present, though there is a nasty spot over the 
middle of England.

It often helped me to decide wether to listen or to solder (reading a good 
book is another option).

On another note, I have been monitoring Finbar's signal for a short while 
last night and it peaked 30 dB over my noise floor.

Best regards,

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Middelburg Netherlands
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On 15 Aug 2007 at 15:50, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:

> If anyone knows of website where daily records of geomagnetic / solar
> data can be retrieve I'd be grateful. I want to start noting the
> salient data alongside my notes etc. in case I can spot any
> correlation between the signal quality and the various measures of
> likely propagation (SFI/A/K/SSN etc)

The two I use are http://www.hfradio.org/propagation.html and 
http://www.dk0wcy.de/magneto/magnet.htm

hfradio has loads of information as well as the current solar data 
from Boulder. It also has an RSS feed of same, but that is not 
working at the moment (has produced no new updates since June!), and 
some of the other things on there seem to be down at the moment.

The DK0WCY one is live magnetometer data from Scheggerott, where the 
DK0WCY beacon is, and also shows the current K index and the day's 
history, Solar flux and A from Kiel and the same data from Boulder. 
You need to have Java enabled in your browser to get the graph.

Another site I occasionally look at is 
http://www.spacew.com/www/fof2.html which tells you the F0 critical 
frequency for any location, can be useful for HF but hopefully it is 
always much higher than 500kHz...

All this is obviously aimed at HF propagation. Alan G3NYK may have 
more useful sites aimed at LF.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hello LF,

LAst night GI4DPE and GM4SLV once again tried some QRP reception tests.

Initially signals on the band were good (Gary G4WGT was a nice readable 
signal up here) and after initial reports at normal powers I reduced TX 
power to :

10W
1W
500mW
250mW
100mW
50mW

At each level down to 100mW Finbar was able to copy some or all of what 
I sent and at 50mW he was able to detect snatches of long dashes.

ERP was obviously much below 100mW for all these tests, as my normal TX 
power is just sufficient to drive my very short antenna to the current 
needed for estimated 100mW ERP.

I returned power to normal but unstability in propagation started, deep 
QSB and some QRN, so we forgo the re-run of the previous night's QRPp 
from GI. We were able to hold (despite the varying signals) a QSO for 
over 1 hour unitl just after midnight localtime. Each of us also called 
CQ during the QSO to see if any other stations were interested in 
reports etc, but nothing was heard.

I received email confrimation that my signals were heard my Mike G3YPE 
in Homfirth, W.Yorks and by Mike G3GMS near Cullercoats in 
Northumberland. Obviously both stations had no difficulty hearing 
Finbar!

We intend to try again tonight, 11pm local time.

If anyone knows of website where daily records of geomagnetic / solar 
data can be retrieve I'd be grateful. I want to start noting the salient 
data alongside my notes etc. in case I can spot any correlation between 
the signal quality and the various measures of likely propagation 
(SFI/A/K/SSN etc)

Regards,
John GM4SLV


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Dear Paul,

In a nutshell:

- You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable results on =
500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and =
secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with feeders =
strapped would be fine.

-Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's antennas =
pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around 502.5kHz. For =
most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order of 100s of uH. =
The resulting coil is connected in series with the antenna downlead. It =
needs to be adjustable because the resonance will be quite sharp. An =
earth connection is required, preferably close to the downlead/loading =
coil - a number of ground rods connected together is usually as good as =
anything.

-For reception, that will work fine, for transmission you also need to =
adjust the resistance match, either with a tapped transformer, or with a =
tap on the loading coil itself. Some kind of impedance bridge, SWR =
bridge etc. will be useful.

Good luck,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a nutshell:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- You can tune up more or less any bit =
of wire for=20
reasonable results on 500kHz. For best results,&nbsp;make it as high up =
as=20
possible, and secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or =
dipole with=20
feeders strapped would be fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Work out the capacitance of the wire =
(see formulas=20
on ON7YD's antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance =
around=20
502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order of =
100s of=20
uH. The resulting coil is connected in series with the antenna downlead. =
It=20
needs to be adjustable because the resonance will be quite sharp. An =
earth=20
connection is required, preferably close to the downlead/loading coil =
-&nbsp;a=20
number of ground rods connected together is&nbsp;usually as good as=20
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-For reception, that will work fine, =
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transmission you also need to adjust the resistance match, either with a =
tapped=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Hi,

G3OLB CW beacon audible in Lancashire IO83qp.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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f4dtl tu

henny pa3cpm----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Henny and Dave,nice copy on 700 for both stations.

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Hello Henny and Dave,nice copy on 700 for both stations.
 
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Dear Henny, LF.

Thanks for the QSO. By accident, I was transmitting to you at only 20 watts
instead of my usual 200W RF. I'm surprised you saw me at all!  I'm now
repeating the last part of the QSO at 200W.

Your signal was clearly audible on the SPM-30 in 24Hz bandwidth.

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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Paul Tomlinson wrote:

> As a newbie to this band, I'm wondering how best to have to adapt my 
> existing HF antenna to work on 500KHz or make a new one .... any help 
> please would be greatly appreciated.


Hello Paul,

As another newcomer to LF/MF I've been having great fun learning a new 
way of looking at antennas and transmitters in order to get on 500kHz.

For an antenna the accepted norm is a vertical, as tall as physically 
possible, with some "top-loading" to increase the capacity and increase 
the radiation resistance.

These aerials are always going to need some form of inductive loading to 
resonate them and some form of ground system to work against to increase 
the efficiency. The ground can take the form of radials (as many as 
possible and as long as possible - the key seems to be to get as many 
directly in the vicinity of the base of antenna as possible) and/or 
earth rods.

My initial antenna was made by running a wire up a 7m fibreglass fishing 
pole held up with guys and a top loading wire about 12m long running to 
a support on the chimney. This is also referred to as an "Inverted L" 
but the main radiating/receiving element is the vertical section.

I resonated it initially by winding a coil of around 1.5mH on a pice of 
4" soil pipe and tuned by a variable capacitor of around 0-500pF - 
tuning for max noise on receive. This arrangement is unsuitable for 
transmitting due to the high voltages developed across the high 
reactances of the tuning components!

I heard plenty of signals (and saw more on QRSS-3) from my location in 
the Shetland Islands so I decided to apply for a NoV and built a 
transmitter.

The loading coil was then replaced by a variometer of about 500-800uH 
range to remove the need for a variable capacitor and a tapped ferrite 
matching transformer to allow me to both tune for resonance and match to 
50 ohms for the TX.

For guidance about LF/MF antennas I found ON7YD's guide (meant for 
136kHz but applicable to any LF/MF application)  to be extremely useful. 
It's available here :-

http://wireless.org.uk/on7yd

As for receiving - many normal amateur rigs are a bit deaf down at 
500kHz so unless you've a good communications receiver that is well 
specified for MF and below, some sort of pre-amp or receive converter 
might be a good idea. I use an AR7030 which works very well.

I wonder if you've heard anything on 500 yet, even with just your normal 
HF antenna? Signals might be weak but as long as you're withing a 
hundred miles or so of a few stations you should here something - 
especially if you try software like Argo or Spectran to "observe" the 
band - this is a good way of seeing very low level signals that you 
can't hear aurally.

Good luck and keep asking questions - that's what I did and I've now got 
my NoV and have had a couple of contacts. Further TX and antenna 
work put me off the air for the last 2 weeks but I'm almost ready for 
another foray.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Shetland Is
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Hi Paul,
It should be possible to resonate almost any antenna on 500kHz
just need a big enough loading coil, of course a variometer would
help with adjustment as would an  impedance bridge.
Best of luck Laurie G3AQC

On 31/07/07, Paul Tomlinson <m0eme432@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  As a newbie to this band, I'm wondering how best to have to adapt my
> existing HF antenna to work on 500KHz or make a new one .... any help please
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks and 73's de Paul M0EME
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/m0eme
>

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Hi Paul,<br>It should be possible to resonate almost any antenna on 500kHz<br>just need a big enough loading coil, of course a variometer would <br>help with adjustment as would an&nbsp; impedance bridge. <br>Best of luck Laurie G3AQC
<br> <br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 31/07/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Paul Tomlinson</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:m0eme432@tiscali.co.uk">m0eme432@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">






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On 1 Aug 2007 at 6:43, Paul Tomlinson wrote:

> As a newbie to this band, I'm wondering how best to have to adapt my
> existing HF antenna to work on 500KHz or make a new one .... any help
> please would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thanks and 73's de Paul M0EME
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/m0eme

Paul

Welcome to the group and the world of LF.

You might find the information on my website 
(http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/) of interest.

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'Morning all,
 
Flak been fairly heavy over the target the last few days. Wish you lot  would 
stop arguing and just get on. This reflectors becoming a battle  ground.
 
Calling CQ again this morning from 0640 to 0715 if anybody is  around.
 
Greetings to all whatever your interests and modes
 
73
 
Colin
 
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Hi John GM4SLV
 
Conditions this morning must be slightly up as I can see feint traces of  the 
QRS from the current 5mW appearing on your grabber. That's the first time  
I've seen anything from my beacon in about 1 week. ( except from Hartmut) It  
appears to peak about 00.00 to 02.30 local.
I think I would need about 10mW and good conditions to make the  distance  
for a vy basic QSO. However, given the current 'success  rate' is only about 10% 
of nights I would certainly need some more ERP  to cover the 984km on an 
average day. I may try some late night 100mW tests as a  comparison, although that 
would be around 140W and not 7W of TX power.
If you use a particular frequency for your skeds with Finbar, I'll try some  
narrow band reception and see if I can dig your signal out of my local  noise. 
 Maybe your +13dB will be enough. It would be interesting as you say  to 
compare reception in rural and urban locations.
 
73
 
David  MRF  
 
======================================================
 
I am firmly of the opinion that an increase in ERP is needed too. Not
to  "compete" as such, but to lift signals far enough above the noise to
make  QSOs at least possible. Many people have high local noise floors
during the  day which prevents working the weak daytime signals from
longer  distances  and everyone has the very high atmospheric
noise level at  night, which is negating any increase in signal levels
brought on by  night-time conditions.





In a message dated 28/08/2007 19:47:12 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

I am  firmly of the opinion that an increase in ERP is needed too. Not
to  "compete" as such, but to lift signals far enough above the noise to
make  QSOs at least possible. Many people have high local noise floors
during the  day which prevents working the weak daytime signals from
longer  distances  and everyone has the very high atmospheric
noise level at  night, which is negating any increase in signal levels
brought on by  night-time conditions.







   

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:17:57 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> John
> Our two QSO'S yesterday. Daytime 1800z good copy at 439 no qrn but
> some qsb, but around 2200z although your signals were 469 the
> qrn/noise also increased so signal over noise had not improved.
> The German signals on 505.1 are solid with me all the time day and
> night. To compete me need a lot more power and that is the only
> answer, otherwise its going to be hit and miss.
> QSO GM4SLV and G3KEV
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV

Mal. LF,


Thanks for the 2 QSOs yesterday Mal, and for the comparative reports. 

You are always a good signal, day and night - nice clear sea path down
the east coast. At night obviously stronger, but the last few weeks have
been a nightmare for QRN which reduces S/N ratios terribly.

I can also always hear/see at least one of the DI beacons during the
day, and often 2, as well as the Swedish BHZ at times, although not
recently.

I am firmly of the opinion that an increase in ERP is needed too. Not
to "compete" as such, but to lift signals far enough above the noise to
make QSOs at least possible. Many people have high local noise floors
during the day which prevents working the weak daytime signals from
longer distances  and everyone has the very high atmospheric
noise level at night, which is negating any increase in signal levels
brought on by night-time conditions.

I have a low noise level here during the day and can here some very weak
stuff - eg G3XIZ, G3DXZ, G3UNT and others during the day (900km or
more!) I call them whenever I hear them but have never had a reply -
due, I believe, to my 100mW ERP signal being too far below their local
noise.

Another 10dB might help enormously. 20dB increase would seem only fair -
10W ERP...not unreasonable?

I'm a QRP fan - so I understand that power is not the only answer, but
100mW?  5W ERP would still be QRP, but it would be 17dB up on what we
have now.

At present I feel we're being held below a certain threshold of S/N
ratio that prevents many important contacts/tests/experiments.

If some people are currently "bending" the ERP limits (perhaps
unwittingly?) it makes for an unlevel playing field which distorts the
overall picture of what's possible and what's not. Might even count
against an eventual increase in ERP. We need to show that 100mW isn't
enough, even though ocasional great QSOs can be done at that level.

Best regards, 

Hope to be QRV again tonight at 11pm BST - QRN building nicely in
anticipation!

John


 


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John
Our two QSO'S yesterday. Daytime 1800z good copy at 439 no qrn but some qsb,
but around 2200z although your signals were 469 the qrn/noise also increased
so signal over noise had not improved.
The German signals on 505.1 are solid with me all the time day and night. To
compete me need a lot more power and that is the only answer, otherwise its
going to be hit and miss.
QSO GM4SLV and G3KEV
73 De Mal/G3KEV




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On 3 Aug 2007 at 19:17, Tom Boucher wrote:

> Thank you Rog and Brian 'YKB.
> 
> Rog, tell me where you find the programme you use, 'RFSim'?
> Brian, thanks for the pointer to the G4FGQ site which looks very
> useful. I think G4FGQ is SK now but nice to know his web site is still
> available.
> 
> Also thanks to Dave G3WCB for another report.
> 
> Tom, G3OLB

Yes Reg FGQ died last summer. In case his original site dies there 
are apparently already a few image copies of it on the internet.

You (and others) may want to look at my website where I have quite a 
lot about matching my own vertical and adapting the G3LDO 3M bridge 
to give good results on 500kHz. Still a work in progress... and 
matching my tiddly vertical is an awful lot different from matching 
Tom's quarter wave....

You are quite a signal here Tom! I have just added a new recording of 
your beacon this morning at 
http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/2007/06/05/500khz-recordings which 
will give you an idea... (by the way, it is intended you download 
these recordings rather than trying to play them direct on line).

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thank you Rog and Brian 'YKB.

Rog, tell me where you find the programme you use, 'RFSim'?
Brian, thanks for the pointer to the G4FGQ site which looks very useful. =
I think G4FGQ is SK now but nice to know his web site is still =
available.

Also thanks to Dave G3WCB for another report.

Tom, G3OLB
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  Tom,
  I use the L-match on all ants, from half-waves to verticals, with a =
simple differential version for open-wire doublets.
  Currently, I have ~3000pF across the 50R coax at the remote feed on MF =
[the resonating vario/L forms part of the L-match].
  Your 6600pF is a good indication of a low input-resistance and =
resistive transformation from 50R downwards towards the ant.
  Coincidentally, Mike has just tried the L-match with my sensitive =
resistive-reflectometer cct - he nulled at 5600pF.
  Your R_in looks like ~24R [Mike's ~28R]; mine is an appalling ~40R.
  Rog.

  P.S.
  I use the L-match to arrive at  i/p resistance by measuring the C/L =
values of the nulled cct.
  Then, use RFSim to simulate the ant load & find X & R_in.  The results =
can be verified by substitution on the bench.
  A really good/low R_in [<10R] will require ~15000pF or more on MF.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Rog and Brian =
'YKB.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rog, tell me where you find the =
programme you use,=20
'RFSim'?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian, thanks for the pointer to the =
G4FGQ site=20
which looks very useful. I think G4FGQ is SK now but nice to know his =
web site=20
is still available.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also thanks to Dave G3WCB for another=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, G3OLB</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: 500 / OLB=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I use the L-match on all ants, from =
half-waves=20
  to verticals, with a simple differential version for open-wire=20
  doublets.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Currently, I have ~3000pF across the =
50R coax at=20
  the remote feed on MF [the resonating vario/L forms part of the=20
  L-match].</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Your 6600pF is a good indication of =
a low=20
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towards the=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Coincidentally, Mike has =
just&nbsp;tried the=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Your R_in looks like ~24R [Mike's =
~28R]; mine=20
  is&nbsp;an appalling ~40R.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>P.S.</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I use the L-match to arrive at =
&nbsp;i/p=20
  resistance by measuring the C/L values of the nulled cct.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Then, use RFSim to simulate the ant =
load &amp;=20
  find X &amp; R_in.&nbsp; The results can be verified by substitution =
on the=20
  bench.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>A really good/low R_in [&lt;10R] =
will require=20
  ~15000pF or more on MF.</FONT></DIV>
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Tom,
Hrd your test-loop ydy - steady S7 on meter - ur tidying up has wrkd!
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Hello Lubos,
really good copy of your beacon here in JN49ax.
Receiver -> FT-857 and PA0DRT Mini-Whip antenna.
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vy73
Marco
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=20
Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly Department =
of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I have =
obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
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Frequency:       505.060kHz
Power:             1W ERP max
Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular CW =
6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power =

Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal =
sections
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The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: =
0.95W ERP
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All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hello Lubos,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>really good copy of your beacon here in=20
JN49ax.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Receiver -&gt; FT-857 and PA0DRT Mini-Whip=20
antenna.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>vy73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Marco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D064013521-17082007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>DD7PC</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Lubom=EDr=20
Bobal=EDk<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2007 21:08<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: [500]=20
Beacon_OK0EMW<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office =
(CTO),=20
particularly Department of Frequency Spectrum Management and the =
director of=20
this office, I have obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW =
experimental=20
operation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Frequency:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>505.060kHz<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Power:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
</SPAN>1W ERP max<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Location:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>Breclav, JN88KS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mode:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>CW 6WPM / QRSS3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 70.5pt; TEXT-INDENT: =
-70.5pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Text:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>Identification =84Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS=93 in regular CW 6WPM is =
followed by=20
2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Transmitter: <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>DDS VFO (home =
made) +=20
PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced power <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Aerial: <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
</SPAN>Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal=20
sections<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The =
results of ERP=20
field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is: <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1"></SPAN>0.95W ERP<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All =
reports,=20
snapshots and informations about signal are=20
welcome!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Lubos, =

OK2BVG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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/o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Hi Karl-Heinz and ALL!

Thanks for report for OK0EMW, I am glad, you seen its signal good.

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hello all,

seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all  audible at 20:47 UTC.

DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW

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Good morning/night - I did a quick sweep on LF about 20 mins after dawn and=
 already the attenuation was building. Budapest was still strong but fades =
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=20
DCF39 was still in there and an FSK station near there was warbling away - =
Ive link a short audio recording of this station which looks like its speed=
ed up its data rate a bit and smudgy power band between 138.8 and 139.1Khz.=
 The near steady tone is a fast disappearing DCF39. Conditions to the North=
 East towards Eu peaked at dawn today. Will be looking again overnight (tom=
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Good morning/night - I did a quick sweep on LF about 20 mins after dawn and=
 already the attenuation was building. Budapest was still strong but fades =
the last. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
DCF39 was still in there and an FSK station near there was warbling away - =
Ive link a short audio recording of this station which looks like its speed=
ed up its data rate a bit and smudgy power band between 138.8 and 139.1Khz.=
 The near steady tone is a fast disappearing DCF39. Conditions to the North=
 East towards Eu&nbsp;peaked at dawn today. Will be looking again overnight=
 (tomorrow Night)<BR>
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<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dcf39andfsk.wav">http://kl1x.com/dcf39andfsk.wav=
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Many thanks Marco for the report and Screenshot,still trying for Singapore
Hi.
73 Laurie

On 31/07/07, Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com> wrote:
>
>  Hello Laurie,
>
> Very good copy of your signal on 136.319 yesterday evening. Signal was
> audible!
>
> Screenshot on *http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/aqc_310707.jpg*<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/aqc_310707.jpg>
>
> Receiver just a Yaesu FT-857 and a PA0DRT MiniWhip.
>
> Vy73
>
> Marco
>
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *lawrence mayhead
> *Sent:* 01 August 2007 00:52
> *To:* rsgb
> *Subject:* LF: 137 Again
>
> Hi Laurence,
> Glad you saw something, checked my freq. think its 136.319 spot on.
> Will check again in morning. Going to shut down now, get some sleep Hi
> 73 Laurie
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Many thanks Marco for the report and Screenshot,still trying for Singapore Hi.<br>73 Laurie<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 31/07/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Scholz, Marco</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">
marco.scholz@citi.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
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<p><font size="2">Hello&nbsp;<span>Laurie</span>,</font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span>Very good copy of your signal on 
136.319 yesterday evening</span>. Signal was audible<span>!</span> </font></p>
<p><font size="2">Screenshot on </font><a href="http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/aqc_310707.jpg" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><u><font color="#0000ff" size="2">http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/
<span>aqc</span>_310707.jpg</font></u></a></p>
<p><font size="2">Receiver&nbsp;<span>just a Yaesu 
</span>FT-857 and a PA0DRT MiniWhip.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">Vy73</font></p>
<p><font size="2">Marco</font></p>
<p><font size="2">DD7PC</font></p>
<p><font size="2">JN49ax</font></p></div><br>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
<hr>
<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> 
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>lawrence 
mayhead<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 August 2007 00:52<br><b>To:</b> 
rsgb<br><b>Subject:</b> LF: 137 Again<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>Hi Laurence,<br>Glad you saw something, checked my freq. think its 
136.319 spot on.<br>Will check again in morning. Going to shut down now, get 
some sleep Hi<br>73 Laurie<br></div>
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Hello Laurie,

Very good copy of your signal on 136.319 yesterday evening. Signal was
audible!=20

Screenshot on http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/aqc_310707.jpg
<http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/aqc_310707.jpg>=20

Receiver just a Yaesu FT-857 and a PA0DRT MiniWhip.

Vy73

Marco

DD7PC

JN49ax


  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of lawrence
mayhead
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Hi Laurence,
Glad you saw something, checked my freq. think its 136.319 spot on.
Will check again in morning. Going to shut down now, get some sleep Hi
73 Laurie


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Couldn't say it better Alan,

Good luck with this fine hobby,

73
Victor
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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Alan Melia
Verzonden: dinsdag 31 juli 2007 21:34
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 500 Permit Allocation conditions


With the realisation that this is not a limited access reflector and anyone
can join and monitor the traffic. Let us assume that an official from Ofcom
has decided to see how their Experimental Permit users are getting along,
and subscribes to the Group.

What does he hear today but a lot of moaning about not being able to operate
if there are more than two signals in the 4khz allocation and suggestion of
limiting it to manual morse (Note QRSS is "CW" !) Where he thinks are all
those innovative people who were going to people this allocation with novel
techniques for using the low power allowed and coexisting in the narrow
allocation. As a professional in the field where manual morse has beed
phased out he may be forgiven for thinking that there is no experimentation
going on and that there will be no need to extend the permit when it lapses
next year. Anyway if the operatiors have no use for a 4khz chunk then what
point is there in considering an allocation here are there are no larger
slots available?.

Yes they dont think like amateurs in the "corridors of power"

One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
Jose-Manual yet !

I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be sinking
a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
all.....dont mess it up !

Cheers de Alan G3NYK







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LF, Mal, Tom and Gary

G4WGT is clearly audible here with a 24 Hz RX bandwidth, but not audible in
a 1740 Hz bandwidth. I don't think that I have heard Gary during the day
before.
G3KEV was RST 549 calling CQ and then in QSO with G3OLB (1740 Hz b/w)
G3OLD was a bit stronger, at RST 559, and this is the first time that I have
heard Tom from this QTH.

Pretty good going for daytime!

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:08:00 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


> One of these days I will cast out my demons & use the key for a qso,
> just keep getting key shyness or something !!
> 


Well, if ever there was a place to try out your CW, this is it!

Lots of very patient experienced old hands, relatively few judgemental
eavesdroppers, mainly straight keys and slowish speeds, no contests or
rabid DX pile-ups....

come on in, the water's fine!




John


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Hi Mike, LF,

Thanks for report & call. Sorry but the sound was down on receiver but saw 
something on Birmingham grabber just below my freq.

One of these days I will cast out my demons & use the key for a qso, just 
keep getting key shyness or something !!

73

Gary - G4WGT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>
> Hello Gary,
> Called you several times between 9.30/9.50pm you are 559 here in SW Wales.
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> 73
>
> Mike  GW4HXO
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Going for max tonight with 100 mW ERP.
> Listen/watch on 503.600.
> QRS03, 9 wpm CW ID, at 5 minute intervals.
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> 73
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Hello Jim and all,

Sri, but I had no Internet connection in the receiving site, so as I =
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I hope hear you soon at daytime....

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX



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  Dear Jose, LF Group,

  I am now (1614utc) transmitting a QRSS3 / CW beacon signal on 503.8kHz =
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  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:40:18 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John, Roelof.
> 
> I captured something this evening, at around 21:30z. It may or may
> not be your signal, but it was certainly on the right frequency, and
> seemed to be getting stronger. I was using QRSS10 to narrow down the
> RX window, so it might look a bit compressed.
> 
> I'll take a listen for you tomorrow, and I can leave the rx running
> overnight if required.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
>


Hi Dave, LF

Thanks for looking last night.

Hartmut got a nice capture just before I turned off for the night at
21:35. It looks like I need to wait until after 21:30 UTC, when
darkness finally arrives here.

Finbar's beacon starts to get much stronger then too.

I will be be on tomorrow evening and hope to work some CW as well as
get some QRSS reports.

Thanks for looking and hope to make it 2 way in the near future.

John
GM4SLV


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Hi, John, Roelof.

I captured something this evening, at around 21:30z. It may or may not be
your signal, but it was certainly on the right frequency, and seemed to be
getting stronger. I was using QRSS10 to narrow down the RX window, so it
might look a bit compressed.

I'll take a listen for you tomorrow, and I can leave the rx running
overnight if required.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:20:27 -0000
"Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> At present some traces are appearing at 503.755 kHz.
>
> That is in Middelburg, Netherlands, JO11tm


That could be my QRSS. I stopped it a couple of minutes ago but hav it
back on for the next 5 minutes.

I will QRT for the night at 21:30UTC

Tomorrow I'll be on for longer.

Thanks

John

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:20:27 -0000
"Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl> wrote:

> Hello John,
> 
> At present some traces are appearing at 503.755 kHz.
> 
> That is in Middelburg, Netherlands, JO11tm


That could be my QRSS. I stopped it a couple of minutes ago but hav it
back on for the next 5 minutes. 

I will QRT for the night at 21:30UTC

Tomorrow I'll be on for longer.

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Hello John,

At present some traces are appearing at 503.755 kHz.

That is in Middelburg, Netherlands, JO11tm

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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:08:08 +0100
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> Hi John
> Seeing you at 'O' on SpecLab. Perfect copy but not moving S meter.
> I make your freq as 503.756KHz
> S9 static bursts.
> 1925utc
> Cheers
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> 

Thanks Brian!

Yes the band's a bit noisy tonight! 

I can hear Finbar on 503.5 when I go to RX mode. 

I need to QRT for a few minutes to move the ATU into a better
weatherproof box. Will be back on later, when it's darker.

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John GM4SLV wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:39 +0100
> "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
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>   
>> Hi, John.
>>
>> I'm watching, but the G0MRF beacon is on 503.7, and he's quite local
>> to me. Any chance of moving up the band to 503.75, say?
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>     
>
> Will do - it's difficult to know who's on where when the band seems
> empty. QSY to approx 503.750 +/- huff/puff "locking point". at 18:58 UTC
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> Cheers,
>
> John
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Hi John
Seeing you at 'O' on SpecLab. Perfect copy but not moving S meter.
I make your freq as 503.756KHz
S9 static bursts.
1925utc
Cheers
Brian gm4jyb
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OK, John.
Looking now, but I expect the best time will after dark...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:39 +0100
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> Hi, John.
> 
> I'm watching, but the G0MRF beacon is on 503.7, and he's quite local
> to me. Any chance of moving up the band to 503.75, say?
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Will do - it's difficult to know who's on where when the band seems
empty. QSY to approx 503.750 +/- huff/puff "locking point". at 18:58 UTC


Cheers,

John





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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:39 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John.
> 
> I'm watching, but the G0MRF beacon is on 503.7, and he's quite local
> to me. Any chance of moving up the band to 503.75, say?
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Will do - it's difficult to know who's on where when the band seems
empty. QSY to approx 503.750 +/- huff/puff "locking point". at 18:58 UTC


Cheers,

John


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Hi, John.

I'm watching, but the G0MRF beacon is on 503.7, and he's quite local to me.
Any chance of moving up the band to 503.75, say?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Subject: LF: 503.7 QRSS-3 from Shetland


LF gang.

I've now got my new short "umbrella" loaded vertical up and have it
reasonably well matched (although the weather is playing havoc with
keeping it tuned!)

Have a QRSS-3 beacon running for the next couple of hours on 503.7-ish

Reports greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

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Received G3UNT calling CQ a few times at RST 329 on about 502.0 at 
12:35z today. I replied but you evidently could not receive me.

There was also some very slow CW a bit further HF but it was too slow 
for me to read!  I can't use the computer when listening on 500 due to 
all the birdies. If it had been hand sent we might have had a QSO ;-)

73

David G4DMP
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Hi All,

Running QRP beacon again on 503.600 KHz.

QRSS03, 6wpm CW ID, 1 mW ERP, start at 5 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Jose,
Just rcd - thank you for your most informative summary.
Excellent work.
73, Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Hello all,

Some days ago I asked for cooperation to make a test of daytime =
propagation on this band, and the colleagues Finbar-GI4DPE, Mike-GW4HXO =
and Rog-GW3UEP were kindly running their CW beacons for such a test.
The purpose of the test was to corroborate, with an ERP as low as 0.1W, =
that daytime reception by ear, for a 1000km sea path, could be possible. =
According to the family of curves of the ITU Rec.368, the expected field =
strength for 0.1W, for this kind of sea path, is roughly -14dB(uV/m). =
Unfortunately I couldn=B4t make measurements, with my heavy =
"messempf=E4nger", of the incoming signal either the external noise =
field strength at the receiving site but, assuming the previously =
mentioned signal level for GW4HXO ( only 4 km land mass), an external =
noise in the range of -27 to -33 dB(uV/m) for 1 Hz, ( in my noisy urban =
QTH it=B4s around 10 dB higher), and considering some 20 Hz for the BW =
human ear, can be obtained an audio signal to noise in the order of 5dB. =
Regarding to the Rog=B4s path, I think his power is something lower than =
the Mike=B4s one, and besides there are 60 km of land mass, so no =
possible reception by ear was possible. For the path with Finbar there =
are 300km of land mass to be added to 1000km of sea, so the resulting =
path loss is enormous.
As a personal curiosity, I=B4ll try to calculate, for this last case, =
and for other UK mixed paths, the expected FS according to the =
Millington method recommended by ITU.

On the other hand, I think that QRSS and CW beacons are very useful in =
order to study, or simply to monitor, the radio propagation, but I=B4d =
like to mention again, for the CW ones, the convenience to transmit a =
long dash, equal or longer than 10 sec, to make possible plottings with =
weak signals; I think it would be better a speed lower than 10 wpm.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Jose,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Just rcd - thank you for your most =
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summary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Excellent work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@telefonica.net">Jose=20
Manuel</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500 Recent daytime test</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some days ago I asked for cooperation =
to make a=20
test of daytime propagation on this band, and the colleagues =
Finbar-GI4DPE,=20
Mike-GW4HXO and Rog-GW3UEP were kindly running their CW beacons for such =
a=20
test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The purpose of the test was to =
corroborate, with an=20
ERP as low as 0.1W, that daytime reception by ear, for a 1000km sea =
path, could=20
be possible. According to the family of curves of the ITU Rec.368, the =
expected=20
field strength for 0.1W, for this kind of sea path, is roughly =
-14dB(uV/m).=20
Unfortunately I couldn=B4t make measurements, with my heavy =
"messempf=E4nger", of=20
the incoming signal either the external noise field strength at the =
receiving=20
site but, assuming the previously mentioned signal level for GW4HXO ( =
only 4 km=20
land mass), an external noise in the range of -27 to -33 dB(uV/m) for 1 =
Hz, ( in=20
my noisy urban QTH it=B4s around 10 dB higher), and considering some 20 =
Hz for the=20
BW human ear, can be obtained an audio signal to noise in the order of =
5dB.=20
Regarding to the Rog=B4s path, I think his power is something lower than =
the=20
Mike=B4s one, and besides there are 60 km of land mass, so no possible =
reception=20
by ear was possible. For the path with Finbar there are 300km of land =
mass to be=20
added to 1000km of sea, so the resulting path loss is =
enormous.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a personal curiosity, I=B4ll try to =
calculate, for=20
this last case, and for other UK mixed paths, the expected FS according =
to the=20
Millington method recommended by ITU.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the other hand, I think that QRSS =
and CW beacons=20
are very useful in order to study, or simply to monitor, the radio =
propagation,=20
but I=B4d like to mention again, for the CW ones,&nbsp;the convenience =
to transmit=20
a long dash, equal or&nbsp;longer than 10 sec, to make possible =
plottings with=20
weak signals; I think it would be better a speed lower than 10 =
wpm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX,=20
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OK, Johan, thanks for good advice. I will try to calculate my new ant by
"tant136.exe".

GL and 73

Lubos, OK2BVG

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Johan H. Bodin
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Hi Lubos,

If the antenna is small compared to wavelength (longwave), there is
not much difference between L and T as long as the top wires have
the same length in both cases.

73
Johan SM6LKM


Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk wrote:
> Hi All om=B4s!
>=20
> I changed my antenna from "T" to "L", all is OK, but I have not
software=20
> for calculation. For "T" ant I used program "tant136". Can you help
me?=20
> I am sure, program for "T" ant calculation is somewhere on Internet,
but=20
> I don=B4t know where.



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Hello all,

saw this in a German Forum.

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Die Mitglieder des Marcom-Funkverbandes und ehemaligen Seefunkoffiziere 
der "christian navy" DF7TT, DL4NH und ich haben heute um 1100LT an Bord 
des Traditionsschiffes in Rostock die Bake DI2AM in Betrieb genommen.
Frequenz 505,180 khz, Leistung (gerechnet) 9 W ERP.
Ein Sendezyklus von ca. 5 min besteht aus einem Normal-CW-Text, 15 s 
Pause, ca. 3 min Kennung in QRSS3 und endet mit ca. 90 s Pause.
Es liegen bereits 3 H�rberichte vor (qrb ca. 130 km, RST 589 - 599).
H�rberichte sind sehr erw�nscht an DI2AM@WEB.DE <mailto:DI2AM@WEB.DE>.
Darauf einen heurigen Jameson
73
J�rg, DL3NRV
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my fast translation:
members of  Maracom Club and ex Maritime radio officers ( DF7IT / DL4NH 
/ DL3NRV)  startet yesterday at 11:00LT the new beacon DI2AM. The beacon 
is onboard of the "Traditionsschiffes" (http://www.m-vp.de/3582.htm)  
located in Rostock.
QRG: 505,180 khz
Power: 9W ERP
Reception report send to DI2AM@WEB.DE

I heard them this morning 01.00 AM 10 - 15 db over qrm with my Teletron 
TE704C F/FS Receiver and  MiniWHIP (OP27)

73 Karl-Heinz
DL6EBS


F4DTL@aol.com schrieb:
>  
> Strong signal of the new beacon DI2AM on 505.180 kHz,who's the operator  ?
>  
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> RX: IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT
>
>   
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Hello all, <br>
<br>
saw this in a German Forum.<br>
<br>
-- snip --<br>
Die Mitglieder des Marcom-Funkverbandes und ehemaligen Seefunkoffiziere
der "christian navy" DF7TT, DL4NH und ich haben heute um 1100LT an Bord
des Traditionsschiffes in Rostock die Bake DI2AM in Betrieb genommen.<br>
Frequenz 505,180 khz, Leistung (gerechnet) 9 W ERP.<br>
Ein Sendezyklus von ca. 5 min besteht aus einem Normal-CW-Text, 15 s
Pause, ca. 3 min Kennung in QRSS3 und endet mit ca. 90 s Pause.<br>
Es liegen bereits 3 H&ouml;rberichte vor (qrb ca. 130 km, RST 589 - 599).<br>
H&ouml;rberichte sind sehr erw&uuml;nscht an <a href="mailto:DI2AM@WEB.DE">DI2AM@WEB.DE</a>.<br>
Darauf einen heurigen Jameson<br>
73<br>
J&ouml;rg, DL3NRV<br>
-- snap --<br>
<br>
my fast translation: <br>
members of&nbsp; Maracom Club and ex Maritime radio officers ( DF7IT / DL4NH
/ DL3NRV)&nbsp; startet yesterday at 11:00LT the new beacon DI2AM. The
beacon is onboard of the "Traditionsschiffes"
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.m-vp.de/3582.htm">http://www.m-vp.de/3582.htm</a>)&nbsp; located in Rostock.<br>
QRG: 505,180 khz<br>
Power: 9W ERP<br>
Reception report send to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:DI2AM@WEB.DE">DI2AM@WEB.DE</a><br>
<br>
I heard them this morning 01.00 AM 10 - 15 db over qrm with my Teletron
TE704C F/FS Receiver and&nbsp; MiniWHIP (OP27)<br>
<br>
73 Karl-Heinz<br>
DL6EBS<br>
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> schrieb:
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Strong signal of the new beacon DI2AM on 505.180 kHz,who's the operator  ?
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT

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Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

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Hi LF,

Going for max tonight with 100 mW ERP.
Listen/watch on 503.600.
QRS03, 9 wpm CW ID, at 5 minute intervals.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi Dave,

Thank you for your report on my signal, 274 Kms.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com

 G4WGT is clearly audible here with a 24 Hz RX bandwidth, but not audible in
 a 1740 Hz bandwidth. I don't think that I have heard Gary during the day
 before.

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The dreaded metal filings in a meter are, perversely, best removed with a 
pointed magnet tool. The d�bris will jump off if you point a sewing needle at 
it, where it sits in the gaps around the magnet - but let's hope Steve's 
meter is ok now 



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Hi Steve,

=20
> Any  hints for a pointer than hangs up periodically?

I assume you're satisfied that the problem is with the meter, not the =
circuit sending it a naughty current. I'm also assuming it's a moving =
coil meter.

Three suggestions. Apologies if you're already thought of them, and if =
they're teaching grandmother to suck eggs.

1. Needle bent, scraping on the plastic/glass or on the scale.=20
Cure: dismantle meter and bend pointer gently back.

2. Bearings either too tight or (possibly) too slack.=20
Cure: dismantle and examine the bearings at each end, the ones the =
rectangular coil pivots in. With posh meters, you sometimes find that =
one of these can be adjusted by screwing it in or out. Patience may be =
needed to find the best setting. There may be a lock nut.

3. Grit (especially metal filings) in the works. This can get between =
the moving coil and the pole-pieces it rotates within.
Cure: (you've guessed it) dismantle and clean out.=20
If the muck is magnetic (e.g. iron/steel), try to wipe it along the =
magnet away from the poles and towards the middle(ish) of the magnet, =
where you have some chance of pulling the bits off. This can be an =
extremely finicky and aggravating job.
If the muck is non-magnetic, I suppose just brush or blow it out - I've =
never been lucky enough to have non-magnetic muck ;-(

Two big words of warning:

Meters are v-e-r-y delicate, especially the coil springs that return the =
pointer to zero. The reason I now dismantle them with confidence (though =
also a sinking feeling) is that I wrecked a couple in my teens, and =
learnt the hard way.

I've given myself frequent problems dismantling meters on my workbench - =
in fact, doing so has probably been the main reason for having to clean =
them!
The problem is that my workbench has plenty of bits of steel and iron =
lying around: filings from things I've made/sawn/filed/etc. over the =
years. Dismantled meters are a very good way of cleaning it up! The muck =
jumps to the strong magnets of a meter with evident glee. I would =
suggest dismantling the meter somewhere else, e.g. on a dining room =
table.


Good luck!
Chris G4OKW


-----------------------------
Dr Chris Trayner
School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering,
The University of Leeds,
Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom
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> Put your thinking cap on and BROADEN your OUTLOOK and work some DX

There you go guys. Mal has spoken. 
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Grabbbers on line at http://kl1x.com
Window 136.7133 to 136.7205 dot 60 slow  and MF 505.097 to 505.122KHZ dot 1=
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Hi All,

During inspection of main PSU for intermittent output it suddenly went into 
full volts mode, 25 volts plus (off end of scale, no regulation). 
Fortunately no equipment was damaged as far as I can see.

As this was my main shack PSU (13.8 volts 25 Amp) it leaves me with only a 3 
Amp PSU which barely runs the recievers so no transmitting for a while on 
any band !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi All,
>
> Just had to shut down as the PSU has just gone intermmittent on me.
>
> Back on after inspection etc, hopefully !!
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> 



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian gm4jyb" <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk>
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> ColePe@aol.com wrote:
> > G0KEV solid copy on your last cq despite S9 static crashes.  5 mins
> > earlier you were barely readable.  Did you make some changes, or is it
> > changing condx?
> >
> > 73 Peter G3JFS
> > Plymouth IO70WJ
>
> G3KEV heard 21:38UTC on 502.5KHz. 529 S5 static.
>
> 73 Brian gm4jyb
> IO88hp. Dunnet Head

Tnx report Brian, its a bumpy ride over the english border hi. More GM dx
needed.
73 Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough

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ColePe@aol.com wrote:
> G0KEV solid copy on your last cq despite S9 static crashes.  5 mins 
> earlier you were barely readable.  Did you make some changes, or is it 
> changing condx?
>  
> 73 Peter G3JFS
> Plymouth IO70WJ

G3KEV heard 21:38UTC on 502.5KHz. 529 S5 static.

73 Brian gm4jyb
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G0KEV solid copy on your last cq despite S9 static crashes.  5 mins  earlier 
you were barely readable.  Did you make some changes, or is it  changing condx?
 
73 Peter G3JFS
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Mal

You must also experience some memory loss issues coupled with your 
anti-social disorder.

I also directly challenge your so called professional resume.  What have 
you done LATELY and shared that has really contributed to the amateur 
art other then to be a general _ack _ss.

So let me get this straight, somehow working DX compensates for your 
lack of interpersonal communication skills, god help us if you run out 
of DXCC entities to work :-)

Scott
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You could have fooled me Steve.
You seem to be out of touch with reality, its all about achieving and
especially DX. At present a UK station is trying to get a signal into
Singapore on 136 khz and what about all the efforts at Quartz Hill trying to
get signals into the West coast USA and Canada and Europe/UK in recent
months.
I wish I could get a signal into Vancouver that could hardly be considered a
narrow outlook !!!!!!!
Tell the ARRL their DXing policy and DXpeditions and all their awards are a
narrow outlook approach and see what response you get.
Think of all the planning efforts and engineering with antennas and
equipment and sheer hard work it takes to achieve these results.
Put your thinking cap on and BROADEN your OUTLOOK and work some DX

G3KEV


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> > virtually impossibe to achieve any outstanding long
> > haul contacts.
>
> A very narrow outlook in my opinion. It's not all about DX Mal.
>
> Steve / VE7SL
>
> Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at   http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm
>
>
>



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Hi All,

Just had to shut down as the PSU has just gone intermmittent on me.

Back on after inspection etc, hopefully !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Cracking signal again here this morning, Tom

RST 579 by ear, 20dB+ above noise visually. Spectran "slice" attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 04 August 2007 08:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 500 / OLB test-sig...


On 3 Aug 2007 at 19:17, Tom Boucher wrote:

> Thank you Rog and Brian 'YKB.
> 
> Rog, tell me where you find the programme you use, 'RFSim'?
> Brian, thanks for the pointer to the G4FGQ site which looks very
> useful. I think G4FGQ is SK now but nice to know his web site is still
> available.
> 
> Also thanks to Dave G3WCB for another report.
> 
> Tom, G3OLB


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Dear LF Group,

That e-mail took a while to arrive... The beacon operated from 2143 =
until 0432 utc last night on 136.319kHz.

I looked  for GM4SLV's signal on 503.75kHz last night, but did not see =
anything recognisable - it was still getting dark when John shut down, =
however, and I missed the later brief transmission. A little after =
2100utc GI4DPE was very strong here, with the usual fades over a period =
of some minutes. Also worked Colin, G3VTT, before he went QRT.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:26 PM
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  Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF Group,

  The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since 2143utc. Let's see what =
happens...

  BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the screenshots from last night.

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>That e-mail took a while to arrive... The beacon =
operated=20
from 2143 until 0432 utc last night on 136.319kHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I looked&nbsp; for GM4SLV's signal on 503.75kHz =
last=20
night, but did not see anything recognisable - it was still getting dark =
when=20
John shut down, however, and I missed the later brief transmission. A =
little=20
after 2100utc GI4DPE was very strong here, with the usual fades over a =
period of=20
some minutes. Also worked Colin, G3VTT, before he went QRT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: FW: 137 condx=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dear Laurence, Jay, Andrey, LF =
Group,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The beacon is now running on 136.319kHz, since =
2143utc.=20
  Let's see what happens...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>BTW, Thanks to Andrey and Jay for the =
screenshots from=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 de =
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Thank you Mal - reports always appreciated.

Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> CW beacon on 503.5 abt 20wpm this afternoon, fairly steady.
> G3KEV
> 
>


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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:30:44 EDT
G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

> Hi all.
>  
> Must be good conditions this morning.
>  
> I spotted the QRS signal from my QRP beacon on John's grabber at
> 01.30  UTC. 
> Distance is 984km mainly overland with the signal still there at
> 02.15. 
> Will do some measurements later to confirm power ant current etc.
>  


Well done David!

I have reviewed my captures of the night and see that you were there
pretty much through until 04:00 UTC. I'll contact you privately to
arrange sending any screengrabs you'd like.

If anyone else wants to look, I have a set of zip files, one for each
UTC hour from 0,1,2,3,4 containing the 12 5-minute caprtures from last
night, prepared for emailing to David. Each file is 3MB. I can send them
out to anyone who wants a look. 

The grabber has been on/off a bit intermittently this week, but I have
quite a lot of captures going back for a couple of weeks and will
happily try and dig out any particular period of interest. Can't
promise I'll have it, but can look!

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg


Regards,

John


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Hi all.
 
Must be good conditions this morning.
 
I spotted the QRS signal from my QRP beacon on John's grabber at 01.30  UTC.
 
Distance is 984km mainly overland with the signal still there at  02.15.
 
Will do some measurements later to confirm power ant current etc.
 
73
 
David
 




   

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Hi John ,
Sorry , I did not listen because the strong storms of night
73 qro J-P afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny and Hartmut for last night's reports. The=20
> fading was evidently quite deep, and the signal peaks seemed lower.
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> XES will be on tonight, starting around 0H UTC.
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny and Hartmut for last night's reports. The 
fading was evidently quite deep, and the signal peaks seemed lower.

XES will be on tonight, starting around 0H UTC.

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137kHz: Copied WD2XES about 00:15-04:15 on 137.779 kHz last night.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500kHz: Solid copy of the QRSS3 signal from G0MRF 23:20-06:00 on about
503.7 kHz. It seems my frequency readout on 500kHz was a bit inaccurate
the past nights. Hope this will be fixed tonight.

A capture of G0MRF can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


73
Hartmut
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I just worked G3PGQ ross on wye daytime at 1800z using qrp,  also the beacon
YR2TOP on 1810.5 is 579 during daytime, active now.
I have worked some UA stns during the winter at noon time.
160m propagation is vy similar to 600m both daytime and night time both  are
MF
For comparison tests we need to run the same erp on both bands at the same
time.
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No changes Peter must have been changing propagation condx.
Tnx report
de Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  G0KEV solid copy on your last cq despite S9 static crashes.  5 mins =
earlier you were barely readable.  Did you make some changes, or is it =
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  73 Peter G3JFS
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Copied on 136.318 QRSS60 last night. PA3FNY ?
 
 
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Anyone want to bid on Steve GW4ALG's 136KHz variometer?

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G3WCB is transmitting in QRSS3 on 503.8 kHz. After the start at about
20:25 there was some fading but now at 21:00 the signal is strong and
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Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

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Has anyone else noticed the expert advice we get on here from those that
have never been seen or heard on LF/MF or any other band for that matter!!!
When it comes to experiments and research, some are forgetting that the 500
khz band has been well used and researched over the past 100 years.
I cannot believe that OFCOM are waiting for some novice radio amateur that
cannot send CW and uses a machine to send out beacons is really going to
make some unique contribution.
The limitations of the very low power permitted are already know and if
anything is obstructive to real research and development.
The 600m band characteristics at one end of BC MF spectrum is almost
identical to160m at the other end and when this band had a limit of 10w dc
input for years it was virtually impossibe to achieve any outstanding long
haul contacts. There was the odd exception when large antennas were
available to the few and propagation was just right.
If OFCOM are seriously depending on radio amateurs to explore 600 metres
then they ought to select some professionally qualified operators from
within the radio amateur fraternity and :-

1. Increase the permitted power to 200 watts for those suitably qualified.
2. Allow 10 watts to all others
3. Introduce a band plan to separate high/low power and a slot for beacons.

The above suggestions are not really new it happens at present with the
various grades of license and their power and band allocations. It just
needs to be implimented and modified for 600 metres to make this band more
meaningful.

73 G3KEV




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Hello, Lawrence.

Very strong signal last night (audible of course) but this evening many  QRN.
We wait yur beacon tonight.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
Ant: 33 fts vertical  antenna.



   

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I need a QSO to GW on 137KHz however no load coil sri.
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> Anyone want to bid on Steve GW4ALG's 136KHz variometer?
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> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300140311297&ssPagTom 
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Hi Gary,

I think we are wrong about the capture on137.77

Maybe dl2hre can tell us. I try tonight again you never no.

 

73 wim pa3ego jo22mb


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Capture tonights viewing

1.39am

But who is  ??

73s wim pa3ego


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Steak  your claim in the great beacon race !

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule

Checking at the moment  2037

Strong trace on  503.5 ,  may be something on  502.85   nothing round 503.7

G ..

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Dear LF, 

GW4HXO heard at RST 539 on 501.990 Calling CQ at 2040z tonight

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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Dear Pete, LF Group,

When we visited there a few years ago, I got the impression that at least
part of the motivation for BT closing Rugby down was that they could make
more money by selling the land for development than they could by running
GBR for the MoD.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Thanks for the info David. Sad day really. Another link link
> with our technological past gone for ever. How come we don't
> have the same attitude as Sweden Viz.Grimeton.
>
> 73 PeteFMT
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Thanks for the info David. Sad day really. Another link link 
with our technological past gone for ever. How come we don't 
have the same attitude as Sweden Viz.Grimeton.

73 PeteFMT


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Nobody has mentioned it on here, but you may be interested to know 
that the remaining 4 masts at Rugby were demolished yesterday. More 
information and some pics at 
http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19017

Guess that means that Loran is gone for good from there!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thanks to Brian, Henny and Hartmut for the reports. The copy on Brian's 
grabber around 0200 was really nice, so things may have been quieter to 
the south. I'm planning to be on again tonight.

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137 kHz: Good copy of the QRSS signal from RA3YO until 21:30. Copied
WD2XES 03:00-05:00.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 KHz: Copied G3XIZ in QRSS3 19:10-19:41 and G0MRF was visible
20:52-03:52 with a lot of deep fading. Best signal around 02:00.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm


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Many thanks.  I will forward it to the editor.

John

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On 14/08/2007 at 22:41 Dave G3WCB wrote:

>Strangely, I found this on YouTube...
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dw6ltSlz14ts&mode=3Drelated&search=3D
>
>It's a compilation of 1960's photos of the LORAN station on Johnson=
 Island.
>
>And here's a video of the Rugby masts coming down :-((
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dbx2lhSUuGqU
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>forthcoming article.
>
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>credited and will get a complimentary copy of the Journal..
>
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>John Rabson
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Strangely, I found this on YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ltSlz14ts&mode=related&search=

It's a compilation of 1960's photos of the LORAN station on Johnson Island.

And here's a video of the Rugby masts coming down :-((

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx2lhSUuGqU

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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I need a photo of a LORAN station, preferably featuring the mast, for a
forthcoming article.

Can anyone point me at a suitable source, please? If you yourself have such
a photograph and are happy for it to be published, you would of course be
credited and will get a complimentary copy of the Journal..

Regards,
John Rabson
Commissioning Editor
Cave Radio & Electronics Group
British Cave Research Association








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Dear John,

=20
> I need a photo of a LORAN station, preferably featuring the mast, for =
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I have some photos of Anthorn, where the Rugby Loran is moving to. I've =
already sent them to the editor of the Cave Radio & Electronics Journal =
so, if it was him asking you, he's got them ;-)

73,
Chris G4OKW

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Hi Laurence,
Glad you saw something, checked my freq. think its 136.319 spot on.
Will check again in morning. Going to shut down now, get some sleep Hi
73 Laurie

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Hi Laurence,<br>Glad you saw something, checked my freq. think its 136.319 spot on.<br>Will check again in morning. Going to shut down now, get some sleep Hi<br>73 Laurie<br>

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

>  
> Easiest way is for you to have a look in near real time at:
>  
> _Shetland  grabber_ 
> (http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg)  
>  
> They are usually there 24/7
>  
> David  G0MRF
> 


Hello all,

But not today 0900-1700, unfortunately!

I've removed the receiver to do some field strength measurements - I use 
the same RX (an AR7030) for the grabber, for operating and as my ERP 
measuring test equipment. Sorry if this inconveniences anyone today. It 
will be back in service this evening.

Cheers,

John



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In a message dated 29/08/2007 05:37:23 GMT Standard Time,  
hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com writes:

Can  someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the above  
stations.

ta
Laurence 
9v1lf



Hi Laurence.
 
Easiest way is for you to have a look in near real time at:
 
_Shetland  grabber_ 
(http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg)  
 
They are usually there 24/7
 
David  G0MRF



   

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Zitat von Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:

> Uwe, LF,
>
> DI2BE very strong here tonight. Seemed to go off suddenly at about 2208 utc.
> Screenshot attached.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England
>
>

Hello Dave,
thanks for the pic.
Yes, that was my bed time.
best regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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Uwe, LF,

DI2BE very strong here tonight. Seemed to go off suddenly at about 2208 utc.
Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, SE England


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Zitat von F4DTL@aol.com:

> Hello Uwe nice capture tonight,im testing my new "PA0RDT" mini whip on 500
> kHz.
> Whats your ERP power this evening ?
>
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> RX: IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT
>
Hello Nicolas,
nice screenshot, much clearer than the last one.

The radiated power is still 2,84W (ERP).

best regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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QRN very low again this morning so calling CQ until 0730Z on 502.
 
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Ge Wim, LF

thanks for the nice capture, but nobody else is on.
now beaconmode dfcw50, 137776Hz.

73 Edgar DL2HRE
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The radar will play havoc with the rx :-)=20
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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:35:52 +0100
Brian gm4jyb <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi John,
> Report of your QSO with Finbar last night (Saturday) around 2200z
> 
> You were 529 (by ear, no movement on 'S' meter.). Steady, no QSB.
> Finbar (GI4DPE) 579 ( on the 'S' meter). A little QSB.
> 
> Moderate static level..
> 
> Cheers,
> Brian gm4jyb
> IO88hp   Dunnet Head
>

Thanks Brian, LF

I think this is the best reception you've had from me so far - so my
antenna improvements must be paying off.

Now we just need some better propagation conditions, and less static
crashing.

Finbar was S9+5dB on the meter here which was a phenomenal signal!

I normally don't use S-Meters for reports, just use the good old
fashioned descriptions of R/S/T

eg S1 = "Faint Signals, barely perceptible."

but in htis instance  meter reading of S9+5 was great to see. The
static was peaking S7 on the meter, but Finbar's signal pushed the
meter consistently higher.

There was very little QSB until his last over, when the signal ducked
down to nothing and back up over the course of individual
letters/words,

I have a recording of the whole QSO from which I've extracted the part
with this effect. If anyone wants a copy (Alan?), perhaps to shed light
on the cause of the fading let me know, it's about 1MB. Previous QSOs
have shown this effect throughout, but this one was steady until the
last few minutes. We'd tried previously, as 21:15UTC but Finbar was
getting nothing readable from me. At 22:00 UTC a 2-way QSO was
possible. A vast change in a short time. 

Regards,

John
 


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Hi John,
Report of your QSO with Finbar last night (Saturday) around 2200z

You were 529 (by ear, no movement on 'S' meter.). Steady, no QSB.
Finbar (GI4DPE) 579 ( on the 'S' meter). A little QSB.

Moderate static level..

Cheers,
Brian gm4jyb
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Very odd , nothing on the band from down south, I can see a low signal on 
the birmingham grabber , but its not showing this end , wallasey , io83lk , 
I can normally see a few beacons at the top of the band , one during the day 
, but for the last days ,  very little has shown , my background noise is 
slightly lower a the moment as well , hovering round 2.5 / 3 on meter .

rx is skanti R5003 marine set

Graham

G0NBD. IO83LK ..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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> John, LF, Finbar.
>
> It looks like the extra work on the antenna has paid off - this is the 
> first
> time I have caught sight or sound of your sigs... Definitely would be an 
> "O"
> copy on QRSS, and maybe audible copy too, if the band was a bit quieter.
>
> Finbar was also very strong here, RST 589 most of the time, with a little
> QSB....things are looking up!
>
> 73 & GN de Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 11 August 2007 23:55
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Finbar
> Subject: Re: LF: [500]: GM4SLV - report
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:35:32 +0100
> "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, John.
>>
>> Clear traces of your signals during your QSO with Finbar. See
>> attached grab. You are very slightly HF of Finbar on 502.429.
>>
>> I was able to catch one or two characters by ear as well. Make that
>> an RST "129", then!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>>
>
> Dave, LF, Finbar
>
> Thanks for the screengrab and report Dave!
>
> Yes I agree I was a bit HF, I rapidly retuned from 503.? where I'd
> been beaconing in QRSS to ~502.5 when I heard him calling me - didn't
> quite net exactly!
>
> I did a bit of antenna work yesterday and seem to have improved things.
> I now have 11m vertical with 4 sloping top loading wires (previously
> only 8m vertical) and many more radials. I can get 0.9A of RF now when
> previously I could only get 0.6A. Added to the extra height this all
> adds about 4dB to my ERP - I can now actually achieve 100mW.
>
> I got the best ever report from Finbar tonight - and had a good 2 way
> QSO.
>
>
> I'm now off to bed, after a tiring afternoon running 9 miles of hilly
> Shetland roads followed by a session in the pub afterwards watching
> rugby and drinking Guinness.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
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John, LF, Finbar.

It looks like the extra work on the antenna has paid off - this is the first
time I have caught sight or sound of your sigs... Definitely would be an "O"
copy on QRSS, and maybe audible copy too, if the band was a bit quieter.

Finbar was also very strong here, RST 589 most of the time, with a little
QSB....things are looking up!

73 & GN de Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Pumford-Green GM4SLV
Sent: 11 August 2007 23:55
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Finbar
Subject: Re: LF: [500]: GM4SLV - report


On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:35:32 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John.
>
> Clear traces of your signals during your QSO with Finbar. See
> attached grab. You are very slightly HF of Finbar on 502.429.
>
> I was able to catch one or two characters by ear as well. Make that
> an RST "129", then!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>

Dave, LF, Finbar

Thanks for the screengrab and report Dave!

Yes I agree I was a bit HF, I rapidly retuned from 503.? where I'd
been beaconing in QRSS to ~502.5 when I heard him calling me - didn't
quite net exactly!

I did a bit of antenna work yesterday and seem to have improved things.
I now have 11m vertical with 4 sloping top loading wires (previously
only 8m vertical) and many more radials. I can get 0.9A of RF now when
previously I could only get 0.6A. Added to the extra height this all
adds about 4dB to my ERP - I can now actually achieve 100mW.

I got the best ever report from Finbar tonight - and had a good 2 way
QSO.


I'm now off to bed, after a tiring afternoon running 9 miles of hilly
Shetland roads followed by a session in the pub afterwards watching
rugby and drinking Guinness.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV







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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:35:32 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John.
> 
> Clear traces of your signals during your QSO with Finbar. See
> attached grab. You are very slightly HF of Finbar on 502.429.
> 
> I was able to catch one or two characters by ear as well. Make that
> an RST "129", then!
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
>

Dave, LF, Finbar

Thanks for the screengrab and report Dave!

Yes I agree I was a bit HF, I rapidly retuned from 503.? where I'd
been beaconing in QRSS to ~502.5 when I heard him calling me - didn't
quite net exactly!

I did a bit of antenna work yesterday and seem to have improved things.
I now have 11m vertical with 4 sloping top loading wires (previously
only 8m vertical) and many more radials. I can get 0.9A of RF now when
previously I could only get 0.6A. Added to the extra height this all
adds about 4dB to my ERP - I can now actually achieve 100mW. 

I got the best ever report from Finbar tonight - and had a good 2 way
QSO.


I'm now off to bed, after a tiring afternoon running 9 miles of hilly
Shetland roads followed by a session in the pub afterwards watching
rugby and drinking Guinness.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV




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Hi, John.

Clear traces of your signals during your QSO with Finbar. See attached grab.
You are very slightly HF of Finbar on 502.429.

I was able to catch one or two characters by ear as well. Make that an RST
"129", then!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
Pumford-Green GM4SLV
Sent: 11 August 2007 22:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: [500]: G3WCB beaconing on 503.8 kHz


On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:42:23 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John.
>
> Thanks for running your grabber. I shut down to listen for your QSO
> with Finbar, but I couldn't hear your sigs :-((
>
> My sigs stared to show intermittently from about 2050z onwards.
>
> QRN seems to building up again this evening, but if you want to send
> to me, I'll take a look for you. Steady carrier would be best, as I
> can then screw the RX bandwidth right down!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Dave, LF

Have got QRSS3 running on 503.3 (+/-) for ten minutes
until 2300 LT when I'll try with Finbar again on 502.5 CW

Cheers,

John


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David

No, I was copying the normal speed morse ID.

Tom
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Thanks Tom.

  ERP well down this evening.  Antenna is 3 foot from the house and when =
it's wet my signal goes down 3 -4dB.   Hopefully better signal with you =
on a nice warm summers day

  ERP apx 2.5mW

  Thank you for the report presumably it's the QRS and not the CW or =
PSK31 to can hear.

  73

  David  G0MRF



  In a message dated 21/08/2007 19:30:28 GMT Standard Time, =
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    Tom, G3OLB

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Thanks Tom.
 
ERP well down this evening.  Antenna is 3 foot from the house and  when it's 
wet my signal goes down 3 -4dB.   Hopefully better signal  with you on a nice 
warm summers day
 
ERP apx 2.5mW
 
Thank you for the report presumably it's the QRS and not the CW or PSK31 to  
can hear.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 21/08/2007 19:30:28 GMT Standard Time,  
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G0MRF 449 in Devon tonight - nice to hear you for  the first time on 500Kc/s 
David.
 
Tom, G3OLB



 



   

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Hello John,

Good copy of your beacon, the qrn was very important!
much storm in the area .
the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/


John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be back on 137.779 tonight, 0H - 5H UTC.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>

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WD2XES will be back on 137.779 tonight, 0H - 5H UTC.

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Hi LF,

Just attempted my usual 11pm sked with Finbar. 

Initially seemed not too bad but high QRN crashes, and deep QSB soon
took its toll and we called it a day. 

I was then called by GI3PDN, who was initially stronger than Finbar had
been, but again deep QSB and deafening static crashes ruined it before
we could even exchange reports!

On the odd brief occasion the QRN stopped signals seemed to pop up out
of the noise and be Q5, but only for the briefest of moments.

Oh well - roll on winter and the end of the summer lightning season!

Cheers,

John


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'evening boys,
 
Calling CQ tonight from 2100 local to around 2200 on 502Khz.
 
Roll up roll up for that last QSO. Antennas coming down tomorrow for a  
change and
 
 its time to go back to 80 and 30m!
 
73
 
Colin
 
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On 11 Aug 2007 at 18:58, hamilton mal wrote:

> The 6m band at the other end of the scale is open with sporadic E to
> eu.

And I have just worked PY and LU on 10m in the WAE contest....

Have listened off and on on 500kHz during the past few days and heard 
nothing but a (very) few beacons.

73 Dave G3YMC

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The 6m band at the other end of the scale is open with sporadic E to eu.
This is one way to get a QSO while one waits for 600 m to get into gear.
I must get the 160 m antenna resonated soon for some DX. Although I have
DXCC twice over on this band I still need 97 to get to TOP GUN
G3KEV




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Laurie,

it looks like Laurence's grabber in Singapore is definitely picking up=20
some of your signal on 136319: http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

73 and best of luck

Markus, DF6NM





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Hi Laurence,
Will beacon tonight for two hours from 21:00utc.
condx still quiet.
Laurie


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Hi Laurence,
Will beacon tonight for two hours from 21:00utc.
condx still quiet.
Laurie

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Hi Laurence,<br>Will beacon tonight for two hours from 21:00utc.<br>condx still quiet.<br>Laurie<br>

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> virtually impossibe to achieve any outstanding long
> haul contacts. 

A very narrow outlook in my opinion. It's not all about DX Mal.

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Hallo Roelof!
Thanks for informations about signal OK0EMW. Your mini-whip antenna must
doing very well!
All snapshots are welcome!
 
73, Lubos, OK2BVG
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: [500] Beacon_OK0EMW
 
Hello Lubos,
 
I am very pleased to report excellent aural reception of beacon OKoEMW
in the Netherlands on August 17, 2007 at 20:40 UTC.
 
The signal was 25 dB over my noise floor in a 24 Hz bandwidth.
A crop selection of an ARGO screenshot is attached.
You can spot the end of the normal speed CW message.
The signal shows deep fades over a 990 km path.
 
Congrats on your permission for beaconing at 500 kHz.
Your signals are doing very well indeed.
 
Best regards,
 
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
Middelburg, Netherlands
JO11tm
 
Receiver: Aural: SPM-30, visual: AOR AR7030
Antenna: mini-whip
 
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for informations about =
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OK0EMW. Your mini-whip antenna must doing very =
well!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roelof Bakker<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 17, =
2007
10:47 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: [500]
Beacon_OK0EMW</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am very pleased to report
excellent aural reception of beacon OKoEMW in the Netherlands on August =
17,
2007 at 20:40 UTC.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The signal was 25 dB over =
my noise
floor in a 24 Hz bandwidth.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A crop selection of an ARGO
screenshot is attached.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can spot the end of the =
normal
speed CW message.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The signal shows deep fades =
over a
990 km path.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Congrats on your permission =
for
beaconing at 500 kHz.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Your signals are doing very =
well
indeed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Roelof Bakker, =
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Middelburg, =
Netherlands</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>JO11tm</span></font><o:p></o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Receiver: Aural: SPM-30, =
visual: AOR
AR7030</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Antenna: =
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Hi Gary!
Yes, OK0EMW is transmitting now and this snapshot is really its signal.
Distance from JN88KS to IO83QP is 1456km.
Many thanks for report!

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hi Lubos & LF,

Congratulations on the issue of the experimental beacon operation
licence.

If you are transmitting the beacon at the moment then this snapshot
could be=20
your beacon but no positive ID yet.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

NW UK.

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>
> Thanks to Czech Telecommunication Office (CTO), particularly
Department
> of Frequency Spectrum Management and the director of this office, I
have
> obtained permission for the beacon OK0EMW experimental operation:
>
> Frequency:       505.060kHz
> Power:             1W ERP max
> Location:          Breclav, JN88KS
> Mode:              CW 6WPM / QRSS3
> Text:                Identification "Beacon OK0EMW JN88KS" in regular
CW
> 6WPM is followed by 2x CALL and QRA locator in QRSS3.
> Transmitter:      DDS VFO (home made) + PA DEBEG 7121 with reduced
power
>
> Aerial:              Inverted-L with 23m vertical and 102m horizontal
> sections
>
> The results of ERP field-measurements (2180m far from the aerial) is:
> 0.95W ERP
>
> All reports, snapshots and informations about signal are welcome!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz
>
>
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Hello all,

Some days ago I asked for cooperation to make a test of daytime =
propagation on this band, and the colleagues Finbar-GI4DPE, Mike-GW4HXO =
and Rog-GW3UEP were kindly running their CW beacons for such a test.
The purpose of the test was to corroborate, with an ERP as low as 0.1W, =
that daytime reception by ear, for a 1000km sea path, could be possible. =
According to the family of curves of the ITU Rec.368, the expected field =
strength for 0.1W, for this kind of sea path, is roughly -14dB(uV/m). =
Unfortunately I couldn=B4t make measurements, with my heavy =
"messempf=E4nger", of the incoming signal either the external noise =
field strength at the receiving site but, assuming the previously =
mentioned signal level for GW4HXO ( only 4 km land mass), an external =
noise in the range of -27 to -33 dB(uV/m) for 1 Hz, ( in my noisy urban =
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human ear, can be obtained an audio signal to noise in the order of 5dB. =
Regarding to the Rog=B4s path, I think his power is something lower than =
the Mike=B4s one, and besides there are 60 km of land mass, so no =
possible reception by ear was possible. For the path with Finbar there =
are 300km of land mass to be added to 1000km of sea, so the resulting =
path loss is enormous.
As a personal curiosity, I=B4ll try to calculate, for this last case, =
and for other UK mixed paths, the expected FS according to the =
Millington method recommended by ITU.

On the other hand, I think that QRSS and CW beacons are very useful in =
order to study, or simply to monitor, the radio propagation, but I=B4d =
like to mention again, for the CW ones, the convenience to transmit a =
long dash, equal or longer than 10 sec, to make possible plottings with =
weak signals; I think it would be better a speed lower than 10 wpm.

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be possible. According to the family of curves of the ITU Rec.368, the =
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Unfortunately I couldn=B4t make measurements, with my heavy =
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and CW beacons=20
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to transmit=20
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Confirm it is GI4DPE 0n 503.00
549  with deep QSB
73

Mike  GW4HXO
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:53:13 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> 503 kHZ ANYONE SENDING AT THE MOMENT ???
> 
> GETTING A LOW SIGNAL / BEACON BUT CANNOT READ 
> 
> G >> 



Hi Graham, 

I can't read it by ear, the QRN's too bad, but I think it's GI4DPE
looking at the format on the waterfall

Cheers,

John


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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:53:13 +0100
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> 503 kHZ ANYONE SENDING AT THE MOMENT ???
> 
> GETTING A LOW SIGNAL / BEACON BUT CANNOT READ 
> 
> G >> 



Hi Graham, 

I can't read it by ear, the QRN's too bad, but I think it's GI4DPE
looking at the format on the waterfall

Cheers,

John


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Hi Laurence,
Solar conditions appear good so I  will  beacon tonight on 136.319kHz QRSS
60
Will not be able to start until about 21:00 utc.and will stay on for about 2
hours.
Hope you can look,
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Hi Laurence,<br>Solar conditions appear good so I&nbsp; will&nbsp; beacon tonight on 136.319kHz QRSS 60<br>Will not be able to start until about 21:00 utc.and will stay on for about 2 hours.<br>Hope you can look,<br>73 Laurie.<br>

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Hi Tom
Nice to hear from you. You were 559 solid with me at a sensible speed for
ID. Your 1/4 wave antenna is working well.
If possible go into QSO mode and we can have a QSO.
73 De Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Thank you Mal - reports always appreciated.
>
> Tom G3OLB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > CW beacon on 503.5 abt 20wpm this afternoon, fairly steady.
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:17:56 +0200
"Jose Manuel" <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:


> When we arrived there, at 16:00UTC, we sadly found all the
> band invaded by a terrible noise, with very strong spectral lines
> every 100Hz, that prevented any signal reception. But suddenly, at
> 17:30, this noise dissapeared, 

Jose, LF

Sorry your receiving tests were marred by interference.

It sounds very much like the same noise I see when the TV is on in the
house. A strong carrier (harmonic of the timebase) somewhere around
501kHz surrounded by a comb of spectral lines every 100Hz spreading
right through the "band" and beyond.

Hope you have better luck another day.

John GM4SLV
IP90gg
Shetland Is.


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Hello all,

As I announced previously, I moved this afternoon to a location, in the =
countryside, some 10 km away, where a local ham, EA1LQ, has a station. =
When we arrived there, at 16:00UTC, we sadly found all the band invaded =
by a terrible noise, with very strong spectral lines every 100Hz, that =
prevented any signal reception. But suddenly, at 17:30, this noise =
dissapeared, and signals from Mike,GW4HXO, were copied by ear, on =
501.270 kHz, sending continuosly VVV de GW4HXO,  until 19:00UTC, when I =
switch the RX off. A  trace was seen, with  Argo, on 501.5 kHz, some 10 =
dB weaker, but not copied by ear, perhaps the signals from Rog, GW3UEP? =
Nothing received from Finbar, GI4DPE.

Location data: IN53RH, 43=BA18=B425.83"N, 8=BA34=B406.82"W
Estimated path length with GW4HXO : 984km, I think only 3km ground path.
RX: IC7000, tuned to 10.500MHz, receiving signal from a home made =
converter with a 510kHz LPF and a 10Mhz TCXO LO.
The vertical antenna was damaged, so we had to use an almost horizontal =
(20-30=BA) HF "Delta" antenna!



73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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Hello LFers !

Last night i copy WD2XES in spite of the strong storms which passed in the area.

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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FB John - let me know how you get on.
Test-freq ~400c/s.
Rog.
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Rog,

That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital Cap=20
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Hi Tom - 
   
  For calculating L-matches 136 kHz, I used the    l_tuner.exe     program by G4FGQ  
   
  www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp/
   
  HTH,  Brian - G3YKB
   
  
Tom Boucher <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:
      

  I was surprised at the high value of capacitance needed to resonate this antenna and am not sure how you go about calculating the necessary values as these were established by trial and error. Perhaps there is an academic out there who can tell me!
   

       
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<div>Hi Tom - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>For calculating L-matches&nbsp;136 kHz, I used the&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; l_tuner.exe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;program&nbsp;by G4FGQ&nbsp; </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div><SPAN class=a><FONT color=#008000><A href="http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp/">www.btinternet.com/~<B>g4fgq</B>.regp/</A></FONT></SPAN></div>  <div><SPAN class=a><FONT color=#008000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>  <div><SPAN class=a><FONT color=#008000>HTH, &nbsp;Brian - G3YKB</FONT></SPAN></div>  <div><SPAN class=a><FONT color=#008000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Tom Boucher &lt;tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV>  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was surprised at the high value of capacitance needed to resonate this antenna and am not sure how you go
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Rog (and others) - thank you for this. You may, or may not, be =
interested in the matching arrangement for my antenna.

The antenna is an extension of my 160 metre inverted 'L' which has an =
80' vertical section to a tree on a 20' bank - the effective height may =
therefore not be as much as 80'. This antenna sits on 19 radials which =
are 60 - 100' long and are either buried or lying on the ground, in =
order to act as trip wires for my XYL when she trespasses on my antenna =
area.

An additional 358' has been added to this antenna to make the total =
quarter wave length of 492'. This added wire zig-zags for 50' or so then =
is largely in a straight line held up by 3 further tree halyards and =
ends up about 30' above ground.

This antenna with no matching showed a minimum VSWR at 506KHz of 2.5:1 =
and impedance of 22 + j18. By empirical means (!) I established that a =
parallel capacitance of some 6000 pF brought the SWR to a low figure =
but, not unexpectedly, took the resonant frequency up to 521KHz; an =
L-section using part of the antenna's self-inductance. To bring the =
antenna back down to 502KHz, I added a small inductance between =
capacitor/coax and the base of the antenna.

The final values were 9 micro-Henrys (22 turns on 1'' dia) and 6,600pF =
(3 x 2,200 pf 1000v polypropylene) giving 1.1:1 @ 503 KHz, 50 + j10.

I was surprised at the high value of capacitance needed to resonate this =
antenna and am not sure how you go about calculating the necessary =
values as these were established by trial and error. Perhaps there is an =
academic out there who can tell me!

73, Tom
G3OLB
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: GW3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:55 AM
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  Tom,
  Hrd your test-loop ydy - steady S7 on meter - ur tidying up has wrkd!
  Ur closing the gap on Mike [S9/40mls via Preseli mountain] over the =
~90mls part sea-path bn us.
  Hope to improve ant nxt wk, jobs permitting.
  Rog.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: Tom Boucher=20
  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re:

  Tom - what hve u done?  Fantastic sig nw - on meter S5/6...
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The final values were 9 micro-Henrys =
(22 turns on=20
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503 KHz,=20
50 + j10.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT><BR></DIV>
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Day-time sea-path experiment
Jose, many thanks indeed for your interesting feedback, despite site =
noise & ant damage.
Congrats Mike, but no big surprise with ~100% sea-path.
Mine is ~95% [50k land] & Fin has the extra 350k EI land-mass =
attenuation.
The planned 3-signal freq spacing worked well, thanks Mike & Fin.
The 10dB difference relates quite well to the 8dB figure in your =
previous report.
Thanks for the qth info.
Look forward to the next day-time test.
73, Rog.


----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jose Manuel=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: Finbar=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:17 AM
Subject: LF: 500 Daytime UK-EA test


Hello all,

As I announced previously, I moved this afternoon to a location, in the =
countryside, some 10 km away, where a local ham, EA1LQ, has a station. =
When we arrived there, at 16:00UTC, we sadly found all the band invaded =
by a terrible noise, with very strong spectral lines every 100Hz, that =
prevented any signal reception. But suddenly, at 17:30, this noise =
dissapeared, and signals from Mike,GW4HXO, were copied by ear, on =
501.270 kHz, sending continuosly VVV de GW4HXO,  until 19:00UTC, when I =
switch the RX off. A  trace was seen, with  Argo, on 501.5 kHz, some 10 =
dB weaker, but not copied by ear, perhaps the signals from Rog, GW3UEP? =
Nothing received from Finbar, GI4DPE.

Location data: IN53RH, 43=BA18=B425.83"N, 8=BA34=B406.82"W
Estimated path length with GW4HXO : 984km, I think only 3km ground path.
RX: IC7000, tuned to 10.500MHz, receiving signal from a home made =
converter with a 510kHz LPF and a 10Mhz TCXO LO.
The vertical antenna was damaged, so we had to use an almost horizontal =
(20-30=BA) HF "Delta" antenna!



73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><U>Day-time sea-path =
experiment</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Jose, many thanks indeed for your =
interesting=20
feedback, despite site noise &amp; ant damage.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Congrats Mike, but no big surprise =
with ~100%=20
sea-path.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mine is ~95% [50k land] &amp; Fin =
has&nbsp;the=20
extra 350k&nbsp;EI land-mass attenuation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The planned 3-signal freq spacing =
worked well,=20
thanks Mike &amp; Fin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The 10dB difference relates quite well =
to the=20
8dB&nbsp;figure in your previous report.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Thanks for the qth info.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Look forward to the next day-time=20
test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net =
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Manuel</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500 Daytime UK-EA test</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I announced previously, I moved this =
afternoon=20
to a location, in the countryside, some 10 km away,&nbsp;where a local =
ham,=20
EA1LQ,&nbsp;has a station. When we arrived there, at 16:00UTC, we sadly =
found=20
all the band invaded by a terrible noise, with very strong spectral =
lines every=20
100Hz, that prevented any signal reception. But suddenly, at 17:30, this =
noise=20
dissapeared, and signals from Mike,GW4HXO, were&nbsp;copied by=20
<STRONG>ear</STRONG>, on 501.270 kHz, sending continuosly VVV de =
GW4HXO,&nbsp;=20
until 19:00UTC, when I&nbsp;switch the RX off.&nbsp;A&nbsp; trace was =
seen,=20
with&nbsp; Argo, on 501.5 kHz, some 10 dB weaker,&nbsp;but not copied by =
ear,=20
perhaps the signals from Rog, GW3UEP? Nothing received from Finbar,=20
GI4DPE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Location data: IN53RH, =
43=BA18=B425.83"N,=20
8=BA34=B406.82"W</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Estimated path length with =
GW4HXO&nbsp;:=20
<STRONG>984km</STRONG>, I think only 3km ground path.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX: IC7000, tuned to 10.500MHz, =
receiving signal=20
from&nbsp;a home made converter with a 510kHz LPF and a 10Mhz TCXO=20
LO.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The vertical antenna was damaged, so we =
had to use=20
an almost&nbsp;horizontal (20-30=BA)&nbsp;HF "Delta" =
antenna!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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lawrence mayhead wrote:
> Hi All
> What is all the fuss about !
> I seem to remember a night when there were at least 6 stations
> attempting transatlantic in a bandwidth of 3Hz on 136kHz.
> Surely theres lots of room for all. I do think we should work out a
> band plan though.
> 73 Laurie, temporally on 136 again.
Same question crossed my mind.

Heard GW4HXO testing at around 1700gmt this evening on CW, RST429

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Hi All
What is all the fuss about !
I seem to remember a night when there were at least 6 stations
attempting transatlantic in a bandwidth of 3Hz on 136kHz.
Surely theres lots of room for all. I do think we should work out a
band plan though.
73 Laurie, temporally on 136 again.

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Hi All<br>What is all the fuss about !<br>I seem to remember a night when there were at least 6 stations <br>attempting transatlantic in a bandwidth of 3Hz on 136kHz.<br>Surely theres lots of room for all. I do think we should work out a
<br>band plan though.<br>73 Laurie, temporally on 136 again.<br>

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Tom,
I use the L-match on all ants, from half-waves to verticals, with a =
simple differential version for open-wire doublets.
Currently, I have ~3000pF across the 50R coax at the remote feed on MF =
[the resonating vario/L forms part of the L-match].
Your 6600pF is a good indication of a low input-resistance and resistive =
transformation from 50R downwards towards the ant.
Coincidentally, Mike has just tried the L-match with my sensitive =
resistive-reflectometer cct - he nulled at 5600pF.
Your R_in looks like ~24R [Mike's ~28R]; mine is an appalling ~40R.
Rog.

P.S.
I use the L-match to arrive at  i/p resistance by measuring the C/L =
values of the nulled cct.
Then, use RFSim to simulate the ant load & find X & R_in.  The results =
can be verified by substitution on the bench.
A really good/low R_in [<10R] will require ~15000pF or more on MF.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I use the L-match on all ants, from =
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verticals, with a simple differential version for open-wire=20
doublets.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Currently, I have ~3000pF across the =
50R coax at=20
the remote feed on MF [the resonating vario/L forms part of the=20
L-match].</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Your 6600pF is a good indication of a =
low=20
input-resistance and resistive transformation from 50R downwards towards =
the=20
ant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Coincidentally, Mike has =
just&nbsp;tried the=20
L-match with my sensitive resistive-reflectometer cct - he nulled at=20
5600pF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Your R_in looks like ~24R [Mike's =
~28R]; mine=20
is&nbsp;an appalling ~40R.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>P.S.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I use the L-match to arrive at =
&nbsp;i/p=20
resistance by measuring the C/L values of the nulled cct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Then, use RFSim to simulate the ant =
load &amp;=20
find X &amp; R_in.&nbsp; The results can be verified by substitution on =
the=20
bench.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>A really good/low R_in [&lt;10R] will =
require=20
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Tom

That's a lot of wire in the air...congratulations! Usually the more the better but in this case it
sounds like too much. One approach would be to trim the horizontal top wire of the L to get the +j18
close to 0. Then it would be a matter of matching the R to 50 ohms. You could use a smaller version
of the tapped transformer shown near the bottom of this page:

 http://www.w1vd.com/XNStxantenna.html

If a low SWR is important to you across the band you may want to shorten the antenna beyond the j0
point and add a variable inductor in series with the vertical wire.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: Re: 500 / OLB test-sig...


Rog (and others) - thank you for this. You may, or may not, be interested in the matching
arrangement for my antenna.

The antenna is an extension of my 160 metre inverted 'L' which has an 80' vertical section to a tree
on a 20' bank - the effective height may therefore not be as much as 80'. This antenna sits on 19
radials which are 60 - 100' long and are either buried or lying on the ground, in order to act as
trip wires for my XYL when she trespasses on my antenna area.

An additional 358' has been added to this antenna to make the total quarter wave length of 492'.
This added wire zig-zags for 50' or so then is largely in a straight line held up by 3 further tree
halyards and ends up about 30' above ground.

This antenna with no matching showed a minimum VSWR at 506KHz of 2.5:1 and impedance of 22 + j18. By
empirical means (!) I established that a parallel capacitance of some 6000 pF brought the SWR to a
low figure but, not unexpectedly, took the resonant frequency up to 521KHz; an L-section using part
of the antenna's self-inductance. To bring the antenna back down to 502KHz, I added a small
inductance between capacitor/coax and the base of the antenna.

The final values were 9 micro-Henrys (22 turns on 1'' dia) and 6,600pF (3 x 2,200 pf 1000v
polypropylene) giving 1.1:1 @ 503 KHz, 50 + j10.

I was surprised at the high value of capacitance needed to resonate this antenna and am not sure how
you go about calculating the necessary values as these were established by trial and error. Perhaps
there is an academic out there who can tell me!

73, Tom
G3OLB
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  Tom,
  Hrd your test-loop ydy - steady S7 on meter - ur tidying up has wrkd!
  Ur closing the gap on Mike [S9/40mls via Preseli mountain] over the ~90mls part sea-path bn us.
  Hope to improve ant nxt wk, jobs permitting.
  Rog.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Tom - what hve u done?  Fantastic sig nw - on meter S5/6...



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I read G3OLB G3OLB and tone then back to call.
Noisy signal here in Leicestershire
dave G8SZX
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
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hamilton mal wrote:
> CW beacon on 503.5 abt 20wpm this afternoon, fairly steady.
> G3KEV
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CW beacon on 503.5 abt 20wpm this afternoon, fairly steady.
G3KEV



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Dear LF Group,

I have decided to take a break from the 136kHz beacon transmissions tonight.

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Yes that was me,

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  Copied on 136.318 QRSS60 last night. PA3FNY ?


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John, this and the recent contacts with G3OLB are of interest to me, =
given
their range, as I've no doubt that Ofcom will want some feedback on what =
we
are achieving in terms of range.  We have as you know in mind to try and =
see
if they will allow us a little more ERP  (but don't hold your breath!).

I'm sorry, but I've been away a lot and often too busy when I'm at home =
to
check past e-mails, so it would be helpful to me if you could convert =
the
power levels below into ERP for me (you refer to your normal power =
providing
an aerial current that would provide an estimated 100mW ERP from your
aerial, but I'm not sure what TX power this is so can't scale the =
figures
below).

I'd be interested to know as well the estimated ERP for the G3OLB =
contact,
the nominal RX bandwidth and some indication of how easy the signal was =
to
copy (I presume that it was conventional CW).=20

You might try=20

http://www.wdc.rl.ac.uk/ionosondes/view_latest.html

and click the latest ionogram button (blank password I think)

or=20

http://www.n4gn.com/prop.html for lots of links.

73 John, G3WKL
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G4ADR was 569 at 3pm today - I replied several times to his CQ call but =
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Just caught DI2AM on CW id 505.1 good signal 579. Pity not in  qso mode.
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I still need 69 countries on 137 khz and 93 on 500 khz for DXCC.
137 looked promising a few years ago but has now become a Beacon mode only
band.and 500 has ended before it has begun. There is no QSO activity
currently again Beacons only. The future looks bleak for us DXCC hunters and
two way communications experimenters.
G3KEV




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Hi Chaps - much better last night, ie constructive against destructive on D=
CF39....peek signals were 5dB above those on the 18th - but I see that s/n =
is necessarily better.
=20
Im sitting here in a massive tstorm at the moment with the antennae disconn=
ected - huge bolts are landing within a few hundred meters. Visibility is o=
nly 100m and I can hardly hear myself with the vertical rain - Sheri and I =
shout across the room to be heard over the thunderous rain.
=20
I modded the 1:1 isolation transformer for the PAORDT probe interface based=
 on my tests using the AIM4170 - and sweeping/plotting the losses and VSWR =
etc  - it now just has 4 turns on the primary and secondary on something cl=
ose to type 77 material - this allows me to use it 100Khz all the way up to=
 15Mhz without serious loss at the top end which was happening before. Ive =
decided the AIM unit is a marvelous tool for building transformers and look=
ing at what the heck is going on for LF and HF
=20
I also measured the receive strength of the two probes which are within 2Om=
 of each other -one is some 20ft higher than the other. Using DCF39 on fade=
 out and a mix of Speclabs and Argo Ive determined that theres no advantage=
 to the additional height  and only the spectre of additional attention fro=
m passing tstorms. Im my favor I can take down the highest probe in a littl=
e over 10 secs! -well to below target height anyway. Of course on 10 and 15=
Mhz the space diversity affects really show even on this short base line
=20
Too many "I's" in this email - apologies. If these blessed storms and assoc=
iated thumps goes away Ill listen again this evening in the normal slots. 1=
36.317 - 319 KHz tonight.
=20
Laurence KL1X aka 9V1 LF
Rather soggy Singapore.
=20
=20
=20
=20


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ed, 22 Aug 2007 18:27:08 -0800Subject: LF: aqc to singapore clip


Dont know if this is going to work but heres what the station here picked u=
p a couple of days ago from G3AQC tests. Conditions were up again last nigh=
t peaking for long periods so hopefully as we get more nighttime length we =
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ence 9V1LF

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<body>Hi Chaps - much better last night, ie constructive against destructiv=
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t s/n is necessarily better.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im sitting here in a massive tstorm at the moment with the antennae disconn=
ected - huge bolts are landing within a few hundred meters. Visibility is o=
nly 100m and I can hardly hear myself with the vertical rain - Sheri and I =
shout across the room to be heard over the thunderous rain.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I modded the 1:1 isolation transformer for the PAORDT probe interface based=
 on my tests using the AIM4170 - and sweeping/plotting the losses and VSWR =
etc &nbsp;- it now just has 4 turns on the primary and secondary on somethi=
ng close to type 77 material - this allows me to use it&nbsp;100Khz all the=
 way up to 15Mhz without&nbsp;serious loss at the top end which was happeni=
ng before. Ive decided the AIM unit is a marvelous tool for building transf=
ormers and looking at what the heck is going on for LF and HF<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I also measured the receive strength of the two probes which are within 2Om=
 of each other -one is some 20ft higher than the other. Using DCF39 on fade=
 out and a mix of Speclabs and Argo Ive determined that theres no advantage=
 to the additional height&nbsp; and only the spectre of additional attentio=
n from passing tstorms. Im my favor I can take down the highest probe in a =
little over 10 secs! -well to below target height anyway. Of course on 10 a=
nd 15Mhz the space diversity affects really show even on this short base li=
ne<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Too many "I's" in this email - apologies. If these blessed storms and assoc=
iated thumps goes away Ill listen again this evening in the normal slots. 1=
36.317 - 319 KHz tonight.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL1X aka 9V1 LF<BR>
Rather soggy Singapore.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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t peaking for long periods so hopefully as we get more nighttime length we =
will be seeing more signals. Its about 10,870Kms from Lauries to here.<BR>&=
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Thanks for the previous report's

Ive  re-set to  psk and rtty at 23 hz shift,  Each mode approx  50 mW , peak 
stn output 100 mW.(erp)

First reports dident show that the increase in shift from 23 to 85 hz 
resulted in a proprtional increase in readability, so ive reverted to the 
original tets.

I'll keep it running for a couple of hours

Tnx

G ..







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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:09:37 -0500
WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> What distance was that QSO with Finbar & what antennas do you guys
> run? Lightning static is causing us lots of trouble here in the USA
> on 505kc. It is usually 40/9 noise floor as we keep getting
> thunderstorms across the country every night.


Hi Mike,

Finbar and I are approx 420 miles apart. I'm in the Shetland Islands at
IP90gg and he's in Northern Ireland, I think his locator is IO64ix. 

The path between us is partly sea (as you'd imagine - with me being on
a remote island) and partly over the highlands of Scotland.

This distance doesn't seem very far, given the distances you guys
have to work with, but we're running fairly low TX powers - down to 1W
or less - with very low ERPs - we're limited by the license to 100mW
ERP.

My antenna is a vertical wire 11m high (held up by a fibreglass mast
from Spiderbeam) topped by 4 sloping capacity hat wires of approx 3.5m
length, tuned against a mess of radials with approx 500uH of inductance
on a home made variometer.

The lightning noise has been quite bad over here lately, as the
propagation lengthens at night the noise from storms over Europe comes
in, and crashes around at S8-9. Despite that Finbar and I have managed
a QSO 6 nights of the last 7 at 11pm local time.

I had a QSO last night with G3OLB in Devon - a distance of 654 miles -
and about as far as you can go in the UK.

Finbar runs (as far as I know) a top loaded vertical - with 4 long top
wires and a rather higher vertical section than me, held aloft by a
versatower, over a much more extensive set of radials and earth rods.
I'm not sure of the dimensions

He was receiving me on a 1m amplified loop antenna, or a 120m low lying
"mini-beverage" though - so his efficient TX antenna has no bearing on
his ability to receive my flea power signal!

The static crashes were much lower last night, only peaking around
S4-5, which greatly improved readability at the lower power levels.

I have tested a way of reducing my power in a controlled/calibrated way
down to 100mW or less today, so hope to try some real QRP tests
tonight, as long as the QRN stays at bay.

Looking forward to the autumn season when the thunderstorms die out and
conditions improve, then we might be in for some cross pond - cross
band QSOs? (By cross band I mean between our differing 500kHz
allocations - we have 501-504kHz, you have higher, around 505?)

Hope this helps, and feel free to email me direct if you want more info.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Shetland Is.  IOTA EU-012



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Hi John,

What distance was that QSO with Finbar & what antennas do you guys run? 
Lightning static is causing us lots of trouble here in the USA on 505kc. 
It is usually 40/9 noise floor as we keep getting thunderstorms across 
the country every night.

Many thanks,
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16
WD2XGI

John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote:
> LF,
> 
> Last night, after the UK's best DX 500kHz QSO so far between G3OLB and 
> GM4SLV (unless anyone knows differently!) I went on to have a QSO of 
> over 1 hour with Finbar, GI4DPE, starting at approx 22:00 UTC
> 
> Conditions were much better than previous nights, with less QRN/Static 
> crashing.
> 
> After initial reports at our normal power levels we each progressively 
> reduced output power.
> 
> I copied Finbar, reading normal CW by ear, at 250mW RST339 and just got 
> bits at 100mW, say 229
> 
> He copied my 1W okay - his WinRadio reporting S0.7 (fractional 
> S-meter..!) Further reductions were uncalibrated as I have no 
> sensitive "QRP" power meter to verify my next reduction, but went 
> to somewhere close to 500mW and Finbar successfully copied, and sent 
> back to me, a sequence of 4 random numbers I sent (1498 from memory) at 
> this power level.
> 
> The low QRN levels obviously helped.
> 
> At a rough guess (extrapolating from previous measurements at 5W and 
> above) my antenna current at that power would be around 90mA, 
> for an estimated ERP of around 2mW!
> 
> Conditions were pretty good last night, but despite calling CQ after 
> finishing with Finbar I heard no other stations before retiring to bed 
> at 00:45 Local time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John GM4SLV


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LF,

Last night, after the UK's best DX 500kHz QSO so far between G3OLB and 
GM4SLV (unless anyone knows differently!) I went on to have a QSO of 
over 1 hour with Finbar, GI4DPE, starting at approx 22:00 UTC

Conditions were much better than previous nights, with less QRN/Static 
crashing.

After initial reports at our normal power levels we each progressively 
reduced output power.

I copied Finbar, reading normal CW by ear, at 250mW RST339 and just got 
bits at 100mW, say 229

He copied my 1W okay - his WinRadio reporting S0.7 (fractional 
S-meter..!) Further reductions were uncalibrated as I have no 
sensitive "QRP" power meter to verify my next reduction, but went 
to somewhere close to 500mW and Finbar successfully copied, and sent 
back to me, a sequence of 4 random numbers I sent (1498 from memory) at 
this power level.

The low QRN levels obviously helped.

At a rough guess (extrapolating from previous measurements at 5W and 
above) my antenna current at that power would be around 90mA, 
for an estimated ERP of around 2mW!

Conditions were pretty good last night, but despite calling CQ after 
finishing with Finbar I heard no other stations before retiring to bed 
at 00:45 Local time.

Regards,

John GM4SLV




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famous last words .. its gone off now ! big signal , cw printing on pc using 
multipsk , 15 or mode db over the background noise on speclab, nothing ealse 
on the band

G ..


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> Hi,
>
> G3OLB CW beacon audible in Lancashire IO83qp.
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Thanks for alert Mal.  Tom, G3OLB 599 here in West Wales

73

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CW beacon on 503.5 abt 20wpm this afternoon, fairly steady.
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Laurie - yes they aint that bad....Ill be looking and will leave the rx on =
and grabbers via kl1x.com -
thanks for the signal.=20
=20
Signals to DCF39 are peaking at 2000-2200Z at the moment and start dropping=
 off rapidly at around 2250Z over the past few night when dawn is a 'cummin=
 in' here in Singapore. DCF39 is 10,032 Kms from here +-, and your appx 108=
90 Kms bearing 322 degt from here and 078 deg T deg reverse bearing
=20
*New* Real time (when it works) DCF39 spectrum labs grabber on http://kl1x.=
com/captddcf.jpg - In theory it should refresh every few mins.
=20
Grabbers on http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg and http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg - =
if I have to steal the receiver the grabs will be offline/
=20
=20
Cheers
=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
http://kl1x.com
2 x eprobes at 60/70ft agl 50 feet amsl.
2  x r75's and sdr-iq.
=20


Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:03:43 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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nditions appear good so I  will  beacon tonight on 136.319kHz QRSS 60Will n=
ot be able to start until about 21:00 utc.and will stay on for about 2 hour=
s.Hope you can look,73 Laurie.
_________________________________________________________________
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aily. Visit now.
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<body>Laurie - yes they aint that bad....Ill be looking and will leave the =
rx on and grabbers via kl1x.com -<BR>
thanks for the signal. <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Signals to DCF39 are peaking at 2000-2200Z at the moment and start dropping=
 off rapidly at around 2250Z over the past few night when dawn is a 'cummin=
 in' here in Singapore. DCF39 is 10,032 Kms from here +-, and your appx 108=
90 Kms bearing 322 degt from here and 078 deg T deg reverse bearing<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
*New* Real time (when it works) DCF39 spectrum labs grabber on <A href=3D"h=
ttp://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg">http://kl1x.com/captddcf.jpg</A>&nbsp;- In the=
ory it should refresh every few mins.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Grabbers on <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/dx00000=
.jpg</A> and <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx00=
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e/<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Cheers<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
<A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
2 x eprobes at 60/70ft agl 50 feet amsl.<BR>
2&nbsp; x r75's and sdr-iq.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:03:43 +0100<BR>From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.co=
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Hi Laurence,<BR>Solar conditions appear good so I&nbsp; will&nbsp; beacon t=
onight on 136.319kHz QRSS 60<BR>Will not be able to start until about 21:00=
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:47:19 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> OK John - PC is not in my shack so have to come indoors to read
> e-mails! I will call you now without changing frequency and listen on
> my frequency. Time now 2147
> 
> Tom G3OLB

Thanks for the QSO Tom!

Your signals were very good, only suffering under the static crashes,
making it a bit harder to read at times - hence the 449.

On a quieter band you would have been fully Q5. Even the slow QSB
didn't seem to hurt your singal.

I recorded the QSO if you'd like edited hightlights? 


Thanks for 339/449.

If your locator is IP80iu as per QRZ.COM then I make that 1039 km

Not bad DX!

Thanks again, hope we can get some better conditions for longer chat as
the season progresses.

Cheers,

John
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:49:52 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Finbars sig is very strong  here tonight ,  pushing the s-meter
> (sinpo) (scaled 0 -5) over to 4 

He was S9+5dB on my AR7030 which is -68dBm and pretty much the
strongest thing I've seen on 500! I normally give reports based on what
a signal sounds like, without recourse to a meter, but seeing the meter
actually showing S9+ was fun.

Cheers

John


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Finbars sig is very strong  here tonight ,  pushing the s-meter (sinpo) 
(scaled 0 -5) over to 4 using a top loaded 35 ft 'L' ... but seeing nothing 
ealse , background noise with rf gain max ,  showing -3-
bands looked that way last night as well .

G ..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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> Hi, John.
>
> Clear traces of your signals during your QSO with Finbar. See attached 
> grab.
> You are very slightly HF of Finbar on 502.429.
>
> I was able to catch one or two characters by ear as well. Make that an RST
> "129", then!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 11 August 2007 22:54
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: [500]: G3WCB beaconing on 503.8 kHz
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:42:23 +0100
> "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, John.
>>
>> Thanks for running your grabber. I shut down to listen for your QSO
>> with Finbar, but I couldn't hear your sigs :-((
>>
>> My sigs stared to show intermittently from about 2050z onwards.
>>
>> QRN seems to building up again this evening, but if you want to send
>> to me, I'll take a look for you. Steady carrier would be best, as I
>> can then screw the RX bandwidth right down!
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
> Dave, LF
>
> Have got QRSS3 running on 503.3 (+/-) for ten minutes
> until 2300 LT when I'll try with Finbar again on 502.5 CW
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>


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Captured G4WGT from about 20:30 in QRSS3. Lost the signal 21:05.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
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Thanks Mal!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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OK0EMW visible O copy at 1827 utc slight qsb, still daylight here. Now
stronger at 1931 utc.
Several vy strong DL beacons on adjacent freqs, a real chorous of
beacons on
501 khz.
MAL/G3KEV/IO94SH


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Good signals from G3OLB and GI4DPE all day on cw beacons. Easy ID no hanging
around for qrs 240 plus speeds.
QRS beacons not necessary on 500
G3KEV



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Congrats Lubos,nice signal in JO22NC

73
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Thanks Laurie - looking at DCF39 Signature Im seeing a lot of rapid qsb but=
 the signal peaks have been very slow to reach "normal" levels are still ri=
sing and will peak at dawn in a few mins - peak levels are not being mainta=
ined for very long tonight. Ah well another day another ionosphere....
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:46:57 -0700From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 136 kHz BeaconHi Laurence,Nothing=
 seen on grabber, so closing down now at 22:47utc73 Laurie
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<body><BR>Thanks Laurie - looking at DCF39 Signature Im seeing a lot of rap=
id qsb but the signal peaks have been very slow to reach "normal" levels ar=
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ing maintained&nbsp;for very long tonight. Ah well another day another iono=
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Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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Hi Laurence,
Nothing seen on grabber, so closing down now at 22:47utc
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Hi Laurence,<br>Nothing seen on grabber, so closing down now at 22:47utc<br>73 Laurie<br>

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Hi Laurence,
Will transmit again tonight, although Kp is up again.
This will be last time for a week. Will keep you posted.
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Hi Laurence,<br>Will transmit again tonight, although Kp is up again.<br>This will be last time for a week. Will keep you posted.<br>73 Laurie<br>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Savage" <bobsavage@ukfsn.org>
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> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 22:33 +0100, Alan Melia wrote:
>
>
> > One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
> > country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
> > could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
> > Jose-Manual yet !
> >
> > I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
> > into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be
sinking
> > a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
> > all.....dont mess it up !
> >
> > Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Well said Alan,
>
> I was very pleased to see three test signals running over here in the
> West yesterday, my experiments with a short AE were greatly enhanced by
> the fact there was some activity on an otherwise barren 501 - 504
> spectrum.  I know for a fact that there are other stations in the West
> who would like to see more test signal activity within this allocation,
> it is most useful during the daytime (I don't do night watches anymore).
> We rely very much on GW3UEP and GW4HXO for these daytime signals for
> test purposes. If you have a decent receiver then a multitude of signals
> in close proximity to each other is not a problem.
>
> The allocation 501 - 504 kHz is for experimentation not for DXCC or
> weekend contest working, but there seems to be a small group of
> unprofessional people on this reflector behaving rather like small boys
> and trying to lay down totally unnecessary rules.  I understand they
> killed a lot of interest in 136kHz by this sort of nonsense.  To them I
> would say "Mummy's calling ....go home and play with your train sets".
> (With apologies to any serious railway enthusiasts).
>
> Bob
>
> GW3LTX

You are a terrific signal on 500, you are obviously very professional and
expert. Let the rest of us poor souls know how you do it. I would love a
signal like yours on the band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G3KEV




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bob om
With your Mummy's permission please let us all know what your professional
electronic communications qualifications happen to be if any before engaging
with your sort of observations I would suggest you do some resarch about the
persons that you are addressing.
Please let me and others know when convenient then I for one could enter
into a proper debate.
I likewise will supply you with my professional credentials.

G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 22:33 +0100, Alan Melia wrote:
>
>
> > One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
> > country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
> > could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
> > Jose-Manual yet !
> >
> > I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
> > into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be
sinking
> > a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
> > all.....dont mess it up !
> >
> > Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Well said Alan,
>
> I was very pleased to see three test signals running over here in the
> West yesterday, my experiments with a short AE were greatly enhanced by
> the fact there was some activity on an otherwise barren 501 - 504
> spectrum.  I know for a fact that there are other stations in the West
> who would like to see more test signal activity within this allocation,
> it is most useful during the daytime (I don't do night watches anymore).
> We rely very much on GW3UEP and GW4HXO for these daytime signals for
> test purposes. If you have a decent receiver then a multitude of signals
> in close proximity to each other is not a problem.
>
> The allocation 501 - 504 kHz is for experimentation not for DXCC or
> weekend contest working, but there seems to be a small group of
> unprofessional people on this reflector behaving rather like small boys
> and trying to lay down totally unnecessary rules.  I understand they
> killed a lot of interest in 136kHz by this sort of nonsense.  To them I
> would say "Mummy's calling ....go home and play with your train sets".
> (With apologies to any serious railway enthusiasts).
>
> Bob
>
> GW3LTX
>
>
>
>



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Don't do that Alan. Myself and many others who are just getting active on 
the band would, I am sure, be pleased to work you!

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Ibbetson" <alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk>
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> In message <006b01c7d3ba$78370d00$0300a8c0@lark>, Alan Melia 
> <alan.melia@btinternet.com> writes
>>You could be sinking
>>a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
>>all.....dont mess it up !
>
> and In message <004301c7d3c7$5515e780$fd1a7ad5@w4o8m9>, James Moritz 
> <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> writes
>>any QSOs resulting should probably be considered a spin-off of the
>>experimental activity.
>
> My NoV application specifically mentioned "assessing the communications 
> effectiveness of electrically small aerials in a domestic garden". I 
> expected to engage in two way QSOs with a significant number of stations 
> "to compliment the work I am already undertaking in the field of HF low 
> power communication".
>
> I've got as far as I feel able, within the constraints of low QSO 
> activity, so I am leaving the band free for those more worthy than I. I've 
> put my 500K transmitter on the shelf and will reconfigure my inverted-L 
> for top band when I next crank the tower down. I'll unsubscribe from this 
> list now, to save bandwidth on blacksheep.org.
>
> Back to building my 30 watt homebrew 80M superhet CW transceiver in a 
> 2x4x4 inch box...
> -- 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan G3XAQ
> alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk
>
> 



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On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 22:33 +0100, Alan Melia wrote:


> One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
> country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
> could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
> Jose-Manual yet !
> 
> I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
> into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be sinking
> a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
> all.....dont mess it up !
> 
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> 
> 
> 
> 
Well said Alan,

I was very pleased to see three test signals running over here in the
West yesterday, my experiments with a short AE were greatly enhanced by
the fact there was some activity on an otherwise barren 501 - 504
spectrum.  I know for a fact that there are other stations in the West
who would like to see more test signal activity within this allocation,
it is most useful during the daytime (I don't do night watches anymore).
We rely very much on GW3UEP and GW4HXO for these daytime signals for
test purposes. If you have a decent receiver then a multitude of signals
in close proximity to each other is not a problem.

The allocation 501 - 504 kHz is for experimentation not for DXCC or
weekend contest working, but there seems to be a small group of
unprofessional people on this reflector behaving rather like small boys
and trying to lay down totally unnecessary rules.  I understand they
killed a lot of interest in 136kHz by this sort of nonsense.  To them I
would say "Mummy's calling ....go home and play with your train sets". 
(With apologies to any serious railway enthusiasts).

Bob

GW3LTX





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On 1 Aug 2007 at 11:41, James Moritz wrote:

> 
> Dear Dave, LF Group,
> 
> > And another point which worries me. Are we allowed to operate
> > unattended beacons on the band?
> 
> I don't think there have been any unattended beacons on 500kHz. The
> licence says "unattended" is where the licencee is at a different
> location from the equipment - as far as I know, all the beacon
> transmissions on 500k have been from people's usual QTHs.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 

Not quite.... 

17(mm) - "Unattended Operation" means the operation of Radio 
Equipment by the Licensee when the LICENSEE is in a different 
location to where the Radio Equipment is installed:

This includes the case where the equipment is at the home address but 
the licensee is not there (because he has gone out...).

I notice also from Schedule 2 that 136kHz is not one of the bands 
where unattended operation of beacons is allowed.

73 Dave G3YMC


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Dear Dave, LF Group,

> And another point which worries me. Are we allowed to operate
> unattended beacons on the band?

I don't think there have been any unattended beacons on 500kHz. The licence
says "unattended" is where the licencee is at a different location from the
equipment - as far as I know, all the beacon transmissions on 500k have been
from people's usual QTHs.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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In message <006b01c7d3ba$78370d00$0300a8c0@lark>, Alan Melia 
<alan.melia@btinternet.com> writes
>You could be sinking
>a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
>all.....dont mess it up !

and In message <004301c7d3c7$5515e780$fd1a7ad5@w4o8m9>, James Moritz 
<james.moritz@btopenworld.com> writes
>any QSOs resulting should probably be considered a spin-off of the
>experimental activity.

My NoV application specifically mentioned "assessing the communications 
effectiveness of electrically small aerials in a domestic garden". I 
expected to engage in two way QSOs with a significant number of stations 
"to compliment the work I am already undertaking in the field of HF low 
power communication".

I've got as far as I feel able, within the constraints of low QSO 
activity, so I am leaving the band free for those more worthy than I. 
I've put my 500K transmitter on the shelf and will reconfigure my 
inverted-L for top band when I next crank the tower down. I'll 
unsubscribe from this list now, to save bandwidth on blacksheep.org.

Back to building my 30 watt homebrew 80M superhet CW transceiver in a 
2x4x4 inch box...
-- 

Cheers,

Alan G3XAQ
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On 31 Jul 2007 at 22:33, Alan Melia wrote:

> With the realisation that this is not a limited access reflector and
> anyone can join and monitor the traffic. Let us assume that an
> official from Ofcom has decided to see how their Experimental Permit
> users are getting along, and subscribes to the Group.
> 
> What does he hear today but a lot of moaning about not being able to
> operate if there are more than two signals in the 4khz allocation and
> suggestion of limiting it to manual morse (Note QRSS is "CW" !) 

Oh dear, here we go again....

Firstly Alan should get his facts right, we only have 3kHz of 
band....

Experimentation in amateur terms is far far more than just seeing how 
far your signal goes. Building a transmitter, sorting out a suitable 
antenna and matching it to make it efficient, getting round local QRN 
problems etc. All these items are different than on the normal HF 
allocations and lead to their own issues/problems. Then sorting out 
receivers, and some people are using very unusual methods here - 
using valves in some cases...

What has become very obvious to me in the past few months is that 
QRSS and similar modes are simply unnecessary on 500kHz, the signal 
to noise, even at -10dBm, is perfectly adequate to work virtually all 
round Europe without resource to such modes. Remember that Jose 
reports hearing GW4HOX on normal CW.... There seems no interest by 
the USA ops in listening or working us over here either. Perhaps we 
should indeed be concentrating more on the normal modes and comparing 
what we can do down here with what we do on 160m, rather than 
sticking with 136kHz techniques.

As for band plans, Chris G3XIZ has produced an excellent bandplan. 
Maybe the details are a bit unnecessary, but the suggestion that 
beacons/QRSS etc should be in the top 500Hz is definitely a good 
idea. It does give a reasonable section of the band for use by the 
other modes on a free come basis. I would suggest the current trend 
to also have beacons down the bottom end is reversed.

And another point which worries me. Are we allowed to operate 
unattended beacons on the band? There is nothing specific in my NOV 
(but there again I only requested a permit for normal CW). The main 
licence indicates you can unattended beacons on 2m and above, for all 
lower bands they are only allowed in conjunction with DF 
competitions. What is the situation on 500k, have any of those 
running apparently unattended beacons actually asked?

By the way, in the early evening when Jose was listening there was 
virtually nobody on the band apart from the few beacons mentioned. A 
little later I called CQ and had chats with G3VTT and G3UNT. Called 
GW4HOX later when he called CQ but he clearly wasn't hearing me.

I know I am in a minority, but beacons and QRSS do absolutely nothing 
for me .....

73 Dave G3YMC

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As in previous years, there will be Tesla coil demonstrations at the Flight
Refuelling ARS Hamfest near Wimborne, Dorset, this Sunday.

They won't be quite in this league though ...!   *
http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.php* <http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.php>

Andy  G4JNT

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<div>As in previous years, there will be&nbsp;Tesla coil demonstrations at the Flight Refuelling ARS Hamfest near Wimborne, Dorset, this Sunday.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>They won&#39;t be quite in this league though ...!&nbsp;&nbsp; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.php" target="_blank"><u><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.php
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Andy&nbsp; G4JNT</div>
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:49:26 +0200
Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hallo Dave, John and Victor!
> I am really surprised by your nice reports. John, GM4SLV, is the most
> far station from me - 1730km.
> =20
> Thanks and your reports will be welcome anytime!
> =20
> Lubos, OK2BVG



Hi Lubos, LF,

I only managed to look at the QRSS screen very briefly earlier and your
signal was very strong. I looked again at 2339 UTC and saw nothing.

I will try and send you a capture to show the signal from earlier this
evening.


Very good work!

John GM4SLV
IP90gg,
Shetland Islands


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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject=
: 136Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:02:54 -0800


Jim et al , thanks for the tests. Absolute signal levels remain fair to ave=
rage with high levels of QRN from tstorms. The  QRN will continue to be my =
main fight here and there isnt a lot of can do about it except deploy a mor=
e directive array, and even then looking at the Sat shots a lot of my noise=
 is coming in from the NW. Still. DCF39 was S5 and Budapest S8 when I arose=
 this morning with QRN on fast agc to 30 over 9. Didnt aurally here any of =
the FSK/RTTY stations with down on 135 or up on 139KHz. Will keep on lookin=
g and appreciate the RF from anyone who can put a sig this way.Will check t=
he captures later but on first glances nothing pulled out. The window of mu=
tual darkness is still small at this time to Western Europe but is improvin=
g as we move towards Autumn/Winter. Nothing in the 505.090 - 180 window las=
t night except for some smpsu lines - but again ive not been over the shots=
 in detail. Nice day here - except its Monday morning.... :-(  Laurence 9V1=
 LFClear 85F 90%rh 0800am


From: james.moritz@btopenworld.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sun=
, 5 Aug 2007 23:07:06 +0100Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again


Dear LF Group,
=20
The QRSS60 beacon has now been running since 2155utc on 136.319kHz. Showery=
 rain is forecast for later, but we will see how it goes.
=20
Cheers, Jim Moritz
=20
_________________________________________________________________
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e!
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Jim et al , thanks for the tests. Absolute signal levels remain fair to ave=
rage with high levels of QRN from tstorms. The <BR>&nbsp;<BR>QRN will conti=
nue to be my main fight here and there isnt a lot of can do about it except=
 deploy a more directive array, and even then looking at the Sat shots a lo=
t of my noise is coming in from the NW. Still. DCF39 was S5 and Budapest S8=
 when I arose this morning with QRN on fast&nbsp;agc to 30&nbsp;over 9.&nbs=
p;Didnt aurally here any of the FSK/RTTY stations with down on 135 or up on=
 139KHz.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Will keep on looking and appreciate the RF from anyon=
e who can put a sig this way.<BR><BR>Will check the captures later but on f=
irst glances nothing pulled out. The window of mutual darkness is still sma=
ll at this time to Western Europe but is improving as we move towards Autum=
n/Winter.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Nothing in the 505.090 - 180 window last night excep=
t for some smpsu lines - but again ive not been over the shots in detail.<B=
R>&nbsp;<BR>Nice day here - except its Monday morning.... :-(<BR>&nbsp;<BR>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The QRSS60 beacon has now been running since 2155ut=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi John, LF!
Beacon OK0EMW was in operation at first, so I stoped it after midnight
and tested its parts - ALL was OK.=20
Normaly I will start beacon daily after sunset and stop it in the
morning. For some test or experiments I can start it anytime ( I am
looking forward on the wintertime!).

73, Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**********************************************************************
=20

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John
Pumford-Green GM4SLV
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:49:26 +0200
Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz> wrote:

> Hallo Dave, John and Victor!
> I am really surprised by your nice reports. John, GM4SLV, is the most
> far station from me - 1730km.
> =20
> Thanks and your reports will be welcome anytime!
> =20
> Lubos, OK2BVG



Hi Lubos, LF,

I only managed to look at the QRSS screen very briefly earlier and your
signal was very strong. I looked again at 2339 UTC and saw nothing.

I will try and send you a capture to show the signal from earlier this
evening.


Very good work!

John GM4SLV
IP90gg,
Shetland Islands


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To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:54:16 +0100
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Subject: LF: 500 G4XIZ and GI4DPE tonight
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Hi LF,

2 captures from tonights viewing.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:10:38 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Listening  to QSOS,
> Nice copy from both GI4DPE and G3KEV,
> 
> Listening to GM4SLV and GI4DPE.. hearing both 529 at the moment, some
> QSB from the dire reports being sent it is somewhat marginal Gi to
> Shetland at the moment! Recording of all stations heard tonight made.
> Cheers
> mark GM4ISM

Thanks Mark! You must be just in the right place, mid way between GI
and "GZ"!

Struggled at first and was signing with Finbar when QSB brought sigs up.

Actually managed to exchange RST with Ray GI3PDN tonight, after failing
last night. 

Mal a strong signal at the end, as usual!

I'm sure I've done my ear drums some serious damage straining to hear
weak CW under enormous static crashes.


I have a recording of the QSOs too, would be interesting to compare
them.

Conditions have been generally very poor over the last week, with heavy
lightning noise due, it seems, to thunderstorms over Europe. 

Roll on winter. It's been 8C with a biting northerly wind all day, so
it already feels like winter here anyway!

Cheers,

John


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Listening  to QSOS,
Nice copy from both GI4DPE and G3KEV,

Listening to GM4SLV and GI4DPE.. hearing both 529 at the moment, some =
QSB
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at the moment!
Recording of all stations heard tonight made.
Cheers
mark GM4ISM
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Most interesting Jay. Your 136 installation looks extremely well engineered. 
The loading coil/variometer looks almost identical to the one I made for 
136, without the gears and motor. I used an 1100' end fed wire when active 
on that band!

73, Tom G3OLB

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> Tom
>
> That's a lot of wire in the air...congratulations! Usually the more the 
> better but in this case it
> sounds like too much. One approach would be to trim the horizontal top 
> wire of the L to get the +j18
> close to 0. Then it would be a matter of matching the R to 50 ohms. You 
> could use a smaller version
> of the tapped transformer shown near the bottom of this page:
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/XNStxantenna.html
>
> If a low SWR is important to you across the band you may want to shorten 
> the antenna beyond the j0
> point and add a variable inductor in series with the vertical wire.
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Cc: "Finbar" <beachwood@eircom.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:30 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: 500 / OLB test-sig...
>
>
> Rog (and others) - thank you for this. You may, or may not, be interested 
> in the matching
> arrangement for my antenna.
>
> The antenna is an extension of my 160 metre inverted 'L' which has an 80' 
> vertical section to a tree
> on a 20' bank - the effective height may therefore not be as much as 80'. 
> This antenna sits on 19
> radials which are 60 - 100' long and are either buried or lying on the 
> ground, in order to act as
> trip wires for my XYL when she trespasses on my antenna area.
>
> An additional 358' has been added to this antenna to make the total 
> quarter wave length of 492'.
> This added wire zig-zags for 50' or so then is largely in a straight line 
> held up by 3 further tree
> halyards and ends up about 30' above ground.
>
> This antenna with no matching showed a minimum VSWR at 506KHz of 2.5:1 and 
> impedance of 22 + j18. By
> empirical means (!) I established that a parallel capacitance of some 6000 
> pF brought the SWR to a
> low figure but, not unexpectedly, took the resonant frequency up to 
> 521KHz; an L-section using part
> of the antenna's self-inductance. To bring the antenna back down to 
> 502KHz, I added a small
> inductance between capacitor/coax and the base of the antenna.
>
> The final values were 9 micro-Henrys (22 turns on 1'' dia) and 6,600pF (3 
> x 2,200 pf 1000v
> polypropylene) giving 1.1:1 @ 503 KHz, 50 + j10.
>
> I was surprised at the high value of capacitance needed to resonate this 
> antenna and am not sure how
> you go about calculating the necessary values as these were established by 
> trial and error. Perhaps
> there is an academic out there who can tell me!
>
> 73, Tom
> G3OLB
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: GW3UEP
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:55 AM
>  Subject: LF: 500 / OLB test-sig...
>
>
>  Tom,
>  Hrd your test-loop ydy - steady S7 on meter - ur tidying up has wrkd!
>  Ur closing the gap on Mike [S9/40mls via Preseli mountain] over the 
> ~90mls part sea-path bn us.
>  Hope to improve ant nxt wk, jobs permitting.
>  Rog.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Gw3UEP
>  To: Tom Boucher
>  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:18 PM
>  Subject: Re:
>
>  Tom - what hve u done?  Fantastic sig nw - on meter S5/6...
>
> 



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Hello LFers !

Last night very good copy of :

WD2XES 00:30 => 05:00 (visible one hour after the sunrise,
as at the best times of the winter)

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 00:05:47 +0100
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:


> I support wholeheartedly G3NYK's opinion re the 500kHz allocation - I
> have been becoming increasingly baffled by the arguments about band
> plans, about which mode not to use, and the supposed congestion on
> 500kHz.


I'm drawn to the band from a sense of nostalgia for the way it was used
in the past and would dearly love to be able to use this area of
spectrum as a CW paradise, thereby keeping it free of
commercial users/broadcasting and available for marine radio "museum
stations" and also to provide a corpus of available amateur stations
already installed and profficient in morse operation on MF in case of
emergency.

Imagine slipping the phones on and tapping out one simple CQ on a
designated "calling" channel (say 500kHz dead) and getting a
reponse "GM4SLV de GM4XXX QSW 503r5" "R up" "up ee" "ee". 

Oh happy days...

At the moment though this isn't operating method isn't wholly feasible
due to the ERP restrictions and the "Experimental" nature of the
allocation. 

Hopefully this is a temporary phase that will lead to wider spectrum,
greater power and more general availability.

Random CW QSOs may be very (ARE!!) enjoyable, and add much to each
stations' own knowledge but I don't think they can gather enough
data about the vagaries of weak signal propagation in the short time
period we've been given by OFCOM. 

I think beacons (CW or QRSS) are a necessary evil unless we can
guarantee plenty of CW QSOs over the full 24 hour period.

Also though, as Dave 'YMC correctly states = the research goes beyond
"how far can you get"... 

One of the outcomes for me has been a great deal of the old
"self-tuition in radio telegraphy" that used to be at the heart of the
amateur licence. I've learned an enourmous amount about a totally new
area of radio just getting this far, building a TX (and another better
one waiting to come on the air, antenna design with a mathematical
approach to estimate efficiency and the tuning/loading
needed...etc...etc.. 

I hope to have many, many more CW contacts and continue my education.

Real CW contacts should be at the heart of 500 and something to be
striven for. They are (especially from remote parts) though "the icing
on the cake". Other modes may have to be employed to test and improve
ones installation and knowledge of conditions on this "band".

I didn't get to hear the "bedlam" yesterday as the weather was too poor
up here to erect my new antenna so I'm QRT until a suitable break in
the weather arrives, but I'd have thought that a few days where as many
possible signals are present to enable receiving tests at a remote
location would be a perfect example of "special research".

The ex-Radio Officers who desire to preserve 500 as a "museum"
frequency are increasingly aware that they need a critical mass of
users to keep it out of the clutches of business & government money
grabbers. Only the large numbers of capable amateurs who can, and will
continue to, use CW morse telegraphy, will fill this need. The
professionals aren't being replaced with new morse operators and will
eventually all be gone ;-( 

We will be able to replace them and even provide manpower to activate
any historic coastal radio ostations that are preserved as museums in
the future.

Outside the "midlands & south" - and I count everything south of the
Tyne as "midlands & south" - just look at a real map with a ruler and
see where the geographical middle is! - there is a paucity of activity
and what there is is well spread - GW in the west to GM(..GZ!?) in the
north and not much in between.

As for band plans...that seems to have blown out of all proportion!

I'd have thought a simple 

=========================================
continuous beacons: up at the top
live contacts : down the bottom and
anything else: find a free frequency 
=========================================

No need to go to town!

Cheers,

John





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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. Graham - the CW identifier was
"test de M0BMU IO91VR".

I support wholeheartedly G3NYK's opinion re the 500kHz allocation - I have
been becoming increasingly baffled by the arguments about band plans, about
which mode not to use, and the supposed congestion on 500kHz. According to
G3XIZ's list, there are about 25 stations active on the band; with 3kHz
bandwidth, that gives us 120Hz each. It would be perfectly technically
feasible, without great expense or complexity,  for all these stations to
transmit CW signals simultaneously without excessive mutual interference -
using the narrower-band modes like QRSS would allow much greater numbers of
course.

Also remember 500kHz is not an amateur band as such - it is available only
to those with the appropriate "special research permit" NoV, which says that
the band is for the purpose of conducting "special research", as detailed in
the applications we made. The NoVs expire in March next year, and if 500kHz
is to have a future, this research must have produced at least some
preliminary results that are of interest to Ofcom by then. I don't suppose
Ofcom are expecting revolutions in radio communications, but CW
communications on 500kHz has been going on for many decades and can hardly
be considered an experiment in the overall field of radio, and I can't see
they will be that impressed by claiming 3 countries towards the 500kHz DXCC
either. The main objective of operating on 500kHz needs to be experimental -
any QSOs resulting should probably be considered a spin-off of the
experimental activity. I hope people will go ahead and create a bit more
bedlam on 500kHz, provided it is constructive bedlam...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Testing dual mode data transmission,

Center freq  502.5 ,  data streams   + - 100 Hz

RTTY    23 Hz shift 45 baud
PSK 31

Equal peak power o/p , intrested in reception reports  % copy of each mode

Tnx

G ..




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> Hi ... All
> Location  IO83LK
> Running psk31  stream cent frequency , 502.500 .
> also testing new ae layout
>
> reports welcome
>
> Tnx
> Graham
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Ok Thanks for the reports

Running dual rtty test with G4WGT  Gary at moment , 23 and 85 hz shift , 
peak o/p about  65%  max , cw id not on ,  same frequency's

Tnx

G ..




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> Testing dual mode data transmission,
>
> Center freq  502.5 ,  data streams   + - 100 Hz
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> RTTY    23 Hz shift 45 baud
> PSK 31
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> Equal peak power o/p , intrested in reception reports  % copy of each mode
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> Tnx
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> G ..
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>> Hi ... All
>> Location  IO83LK
>> Running psk31  stream cent frequency , 502.500 .
>> also testing new ae layout
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>> reports welcome
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>> Tnx
>> Graham
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

Here in IO91VR there are very weak traces of what may or may not be signals
on my spectrogram around 502.4k and 502.6k, but much too weak to decode at
the moment - guess it will have to wait until after dark.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Testing dual mode data transmission,
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Hi Graham, LF,

What a novel mode(s), I am copying the PSK 31 100% but the RTTY is only 80%. 
certainly not as reliable as our recent RTTY qso's. I am also hearing your 
message relayed in morse over both modes on my Rx.

Hope this is useful.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Testing dual mode data transmission,
Center freq  502.5 ,  data streams   + - 100 Hz
RTTY    23 Hz shift 45 baud
PSK 31
Equal peak power o/p , intrested in reception reports  % copy of each mode

 Tnx

 G ..
 



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Hi Victor, LF

tu for nice capture this morning.
hr in JO51TQ captured this morning DK6NI and F6BWO.
137.7KHz, 3sec/dot


73 Ed DL2HRE
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Hartmut,

> Despite the very high static level copied WD2XES on 137.779 kHz.

Amazing. XES will be back tonight, starting around 0H UTC.

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Despite the very high static level copied WD2XES on 137.779 kHz.

A capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES ( Always much of storms in my area ! )

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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<font style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size=3D"2"><br />
-----Original Message-----<br />
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:58:49 +0200<br />
Subject: LF: 500Khz Report<br />
From: Karl-Heinz Gansel &lt;softrock@dl6ebs.de&gt;<br />
To: =A0rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br />
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Hello all,<br />
<br />
seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all =A0audible at 20:47 UTC.<br />
<br />
DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW<br />
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http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0708192247.jpg<br />
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Receiver: Teletron TE704C-F/FS<br />
Ant: MiniWHIP with OP27 =A012m High<br />
Locator: JO31HS<br />
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73 Karl-Heinz<br />
DL6EBS<br />
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tolle Aufnahme, Karl-Heinz<br />73<br />Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv<br />
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Hello all,

seen Sunday 5 Station on 505khz and all  audible at 20:47 UTC.

DI2AM, DI2BE, SM6BHZ, DI2AG,OK0EMW

http://www.dl6ebs.de/ham/qrss/capt0708192247.jpg


Receiver: Teletron TE704C-F/FS
Ant: MiniWHIP with OP27  12m High
Locator: JO31HS

73 Karl-Heinz
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Jim - couldn't sleep so been playing with the multi turn remotely tuned loo=
p (tunes 127 to around 190KHz) up above the roofline (appx 60ft agl) and co=
mparing the eprobe about the same height.
=20
Im tracking DCF39 at around 20dB above averaged noise here at the moment, p=
eaking s7 which is better than the last few days. No thunderstorms here but=
 a lot on the radio!
=20
The grabber is running if you are safe to come on.
=20
Laurence 9V1LF
grabbers http://kl1x.com



> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Dat=
e: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:57:23 +0100> Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz beacon / 500kHz>=
 > Dear LF Group,> > Thanks for the report Andrey - at the moment I am wait=
ing for local> thunderstorms to go away before I decide to run the beacon a=
gain tonight. I> should know in an hour or so.> > On 500kHz at the moment, =
I am copying G0MRF currently on 503.7kHz about 589> as usual, G3OLB on abou=
t 503.48 peaking about 579 with deep QSB, and GW3UEP> who is just starting =
to become audible on 501.15.> > Cheers, Jim Moritz> 73 de M0BMU> >=20
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<body>Jim - couldn't sleep so been playing with the multi turn remotely tun=
ed loop (tunes 127 to around 190KHz) up above the roofline (appx 60ft agl) =
and comparing the eprobe about the same height.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im tracking DCF39 at around 20dB above averaged noise here at the moment, p=
eaking s7 which is better than the last few days. No thunderstorms here but=
 a lot on the radio!<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The grabber is running if you are safe to come on.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1LF<BR>
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anks for the report Andrey - at the moment I am waiting for local<BR>&gt; t=
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o is just starting to become audible on 501.15.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Ji=
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Hi LF,

Well done John GM4SLV & Tom G3OLB for the fine DX QSO on the 500 KHz band.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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 Last night, after the UK's best DX 500kHz QSO so far between G3OLB and 
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QRN is much lower this evening so Ill have two windows open.=20
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136.317 -320 KHz http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg  and  137.7765 - 137.7795 KHz =
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Ill be on line till around 2300Z+-  Singapore sunrise or terminating early =
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73'
Laurence
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<body>QRN is much lower this evening so Ill have two windows open.&nbsp;<BR=
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&nbsp;<BR>
136.317 -320&nbsp;KHz <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.c=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Ill be on line till around 2300Z+-&nbsp; Singapore sunrise or terminating e=
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&nbsp;<BR>
73'<BR>
Laurence<BR>
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John, LF,

Thanks for report & information.

I will keep beacon on til bedtime about 11:30 local.

73

Gary.

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 The other lines are - 501,75 = TV Timebase, 502.6 ish GI4DPE beacon.
 504 - RTE 2nd harmonic. Not sure about 504.84-ish, plus the 2 DI
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:20:44 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to Mike G3YPE & Dave G3CWB for early reports.
> 
> I can just see my qrs signal on John's Shetland grabber.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Gary
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Yes - I was just about to send a report, but you've already seen it!

The other lines are - 501,75 = TV Timebase, 502.6 ish GI4DPE beacon.
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beacons very strong as usual.

Cheers,

Off to sitting room for an hour before 11pm sked.

John


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Hi,

Thanks to Mike G3YPE & Dave G3CWB for early reports.

I can just see my qrs signal on John's Shetland grabber.

Cheers

Gary

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> Signals 559 in IO93cn, nice copy here tonight.
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Hi All, LF.,

Sorry for the late response, been busy here.

Thanks to Hartmut Wolff, Jim M0BMU & Mike G3YPE for reports on my beacon of 
the 8th August 2007.

Your reports are most welcome.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Gary,
>
>> Testing tonight.
>> Beacon as usual, 503.600 KHz, Call sign QRS03, CW ID 6wpm, 50 mW ERP.
>
> nice copy of the QRSS3 signal here in Germany, only traces of the CW
> until now.
>
> A capture can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
> 73
> Hartmut
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>
> 



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Hi Gary,

> Testing tonight.
> Beacon as usual, 503.600 KHz, Call sign QRS03, CW ID 6wpm, 50 mW ERP.

nice copy of the QRSS3 signal here in Germany, only traces of the CW
until now.

A capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
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Hi All,

Power supply problem hopefully resolved.

Testing tonight.

Beacon as usual, 503.600 KHz, Call sign QRS03, CW ID 6wpm, 50 mW ERP.

Reports welcome please.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Dave

I've not heard Peter G3JFS for a while. Had a QSO or two with him when he 
first came on a few weeks ago and he was a very good signal here over the 60 
odd mile path, as you might expect. Perhaps we can twist his arm to come on 
again. I'm sure he would hear John's signal OK.

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> LF, John and Tom,
>
> Congratulations on the DX contact, but there is someone a bit further 
> away!
> G3JFS in Plymouth is in IO70WJ, and I make the distance to be about 1109 
> km.
> Peter has been active on 500 kHz, but I don't know if he is currently QRV.
>
> Static levels are low in the SE today, so I will be listening later on 
> this
> evening.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John
> Pumford-Green GM4SLV
> Sent: 13 August 2007 22:53
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: G3OLB rst 549 , qsb , io83lk 21:19 hrs
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:07:13 +0100
> "Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Excellent John. Many thanks for a good QSO. At the end, at about
>> 2104, you were perfectly Q5, 549 by ear. Quite a lot of slow QSB on
>> you. I suppose that's about the best DX we can achieve at present?
>>
>> 73
>> Tom G3OLB
>>
>>
>
> Tom, LF
>
> I suppose Tom's right about the best DX workable, for now.
>
> You might want to try drawing a 1000km radius circle on a map
> centred on your QTH and see how far away I am in relation to most of
> Europe!
>
> Thanks again and hope to repeat the feat with slightly easier copy at
> your end. I've had regular QSOs this weekend with Finbar, but he's
> almost a local at just over 600km!
>
> Cheers again
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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A simple prog for generating DFCW-Idle messages from the soundcard can be
downloaded from www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/DFCW.htm  (the download link is near the
bottom of the page).

It is written in VB6, so you will need the appropriate run-time libraries.
I've found that many users already have the necessary libraries, but if not
they can be found by downloading and installing the microwave beacon
monitoring software indicated.

DFCWi.exe  allows fully user-programmable tones for dot, dash and idle; for
symbol length, intersymbol gap and amplitude, and is aimed primarily at
microwave usage, with tone spacings significantly wider and symbols lengths
shorter than those typical for LF.  Tone frequencies can be set as floating
point values to keep the musicians happy :-)

If there are any changes that would make the S/W more useful, please let me
know and I'll try to incorporate them.

Enjoy.....

Andy  G4JNT

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<div>A&nbsp;simple prog for generating DFCW-Idle messages from the soundcard&nbsp;can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/DFCW.htm">www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/DFCW.htm</a>&nbsp; (the download link is near the bottom of the page).
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It is written in VB6, so you will need the appropriate run-time libraries.&nbsp; I&#39;ve found that many users already have the necessary libraries, but if not they can be found by downloading and installing the microwave beacon monitoring software indicated.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>DFCWi.exe&nbsp; allows fully user-programmable tones for dot, dash and idle;&nbsp;for symbol length,&nbsp;intersymbol gap and amplitude, and is&nbsp;aimed primarily at microwave usage, with tone spacings significantly wider and symbols lengths shorter than those&nbsp;typical for LF.&nbsp; Tone frequencies can be set as floating point values&nbsp;to keep the musicians happy :-)
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<div>If there are any changes that would make the S/W more useful, please&nbsp;let me know and I&#39;ll try to incorporate them.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Enjoy.....</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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Mike,

   John is pretty much on target with respect to my 137kHz station. My receive capabilities have taken a quantum leap since installing an LF version of the K9AY loop.

  Should mention Bob W2ZM (WE2XEB) - he is authorized in the 137 and 160-189kHz bands and is working on a 4CX10,000 final amplifier, he will probably run 2-3kW output or as much as he can before things start flashing over and catching fire. Bob will almost certainly be the strongest LF signal out of North America. Bob is not keen on QRSS but maybe I can persuade him there

Don't if he'll be ready for the equinox but I'll tell him about the ZL tests and see if can't step it up a bit! Bob is keen on working VK and ZL dx on 160 and 75 meters so I know the interest is there.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com>
> Mike, all,
> 
> > Bob ZL2CA and myself are preparing for another (possibly the last) LF 
> > test from Quartz Hill. In the absence of any VE activity we were 
> > wondering whether your licences in the US permit QSO's with DX stations? 
> 
> Yes, at least several of us have asked for and received that authority. 
> The open question is whether an amateur in another country would have 
> any regulatory problems by communicating with a non-amateur station. 
> Answers seem to vary -- the Canadian hams didn't want to risk an upset 
> of their arrangement (while it lasted <g>). But I understand that it 
> <<might>> not be an issue in the U.K. You might want to check that out 
> (at least informally) for ZL.
> 
> At present, Jay Rusgrove (W1VD/WD2XNS) and I are active, and are each 
> running 1 watt ERP in the 137 kHz band. Warren Ziegler 
> (K2ORS/WD2XGJ/etc.) is re-working his antenna, and has authority to use 
> frequencies in the 160-190 kHz range as well as the 137 kHz band. He can 
> better advise you of his expected status for the equinox period. Dex 
> McIntyre (W4DEX/WD2XKO) is off the air due to a license renewal snafu. 
> Various others have been producing lower power signals in the two bands, 
> but can certainly chime in with their plans.
> 
> Receiving is another matter. Jay has a definite edge over me in that 
> category, being in a more rural area. We both have had no problems with 
> the (rare) bigger EU signals, but Jay's copy of weaker signals is 
> usually better than mine. Warren can offer his opinions on his own 
> setup. Dex is usually limited by thunderstorm static for a month beyond 
> the September equinox.
> 
> So, that's what I know! The others can offer their opinions and news on 
> their setups.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
> 
> 



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Mike, all,

> Bob ZL2CA and myself are preparing for another (possibly the last) LF 
> test from Quartz Hill. In the absence of any VE activity we were 
> wondering whether your licences in the US permit QSO's with DX stations? 

Yes, at least several of us have asked for and received that authority. 
The open question is whether an amateur in another country would have 
any regulatory problems by communicating with a non-amateur station. 
Answers seem to vary -- the Canadian hams didn't want to risk an upset 
of their arrangement (while it lasted <g>). But I understand that it 
<<might>> not be an issue in the U.K. You might want to check that out 
(at least informally) for ZL.

At present, Jay Rusgrove (W1VD/WD2XNS) and I are active, and are each 
running 1 watt ERP in the 137 kHz band. Warren Ziegler 
(K2ORS/WD2XGJ/etc.) is re-working his antenna, and has authority to use 
frequencies in the 160-190 kHz range as well as the 137 kHz band. He can 
better advise you of his expected status for the equinox period. Dex 
McIntyre (W4DEX/WD2XKO) is off the air due to a license renewal snafu. 
Various others have been producing lower power signals in the two bands, 
but can certainly chime in with their plans.

Receiving is another matter. Jay has a definite edge over me in that 
category, being in a more rural area. We both have had no problems with 
the (rare) bigger EU signals, but Jay's copy of weaker signals is 
usually better than mine. Warren can offer his opinions on his own 
setup. Dex is usually limited by thunderstorm static for a month beyond 
the September equinox.

So, that's what I know! The others can offer their opinions and news on 
their setups.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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Hello John,

Bob ZL2CA and myself are preparing for another (possibly the last) LF test 
from Quartz Hill. In the absence of any VE activity we were wondering 
whether your licences in the US permit QSO's with DX stations? Our band is 
130 to 190kHz so we can QSO anywhere in that range.

Mike ZL4OL 



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lol
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: GW3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: newbie help


  I discharge it thru' the xyl first.
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Boucher=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM
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  Good point Ha-Jo. When using my antenna impedance analyser, I always =
leave a=20
  50 ohm load in parallel with the antenna, using a BNC T-piece. Only =
when the=20
  antenna is connected do I remove the 50 ohm terminator, that way =
hopefully=20
  any static on the antenna is discharged through it.

  73
  Tom G3OLB

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: <hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de>
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:20 PM
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  > Dear all,
  >
  > I have heard of a case that a german LF amateur had ruined his
  > capacitance meter because of a static loading on the aerial!
  >
  > Therefore I have always preferred to measure aerial capacitance by
  > checking the detuning effect of the aerial to a tuned circuit. The =
coil
  > of this circuit will always ground the aerial for dc.
  >
  > HW?
  >
  > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
  >
  >
  > "John GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
  >>
  >> Rog,
  >>
  >> That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital =
Cap
  >> meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my =
homebrew
  >> RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I
  >> eventually need to resonate it.
  >>
  >>
  >> John GM4SLV
  >>
  >>
  >> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote:
  >>
  >> > Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF =
across
  >> > its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply =
subtract its
  >> > value. 73, Rog.
  >> >
  >> > ----- Original Message -----=20
  >> > From: James Moritz
  >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM
  >> > Subject: LF: Re: newbie help
  >> >
  >> >
  >> > Dear Paul,
  >> >
  >> > In a nutshell:
  >> >
  >> > - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable =
results
  >> > on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and
  >> > secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with
  >> > feeders strapped would be fine.
  >> >
  >> > -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's
  >> > antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance =
around
  >> > 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the =
order
  >> > of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >
  >=20




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I discharge it thru' the xyl first.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: newbie help


Good point Ha-Jo. When using my antenna impedance analyser, I always =
leave a=20
50 ohm load in parallel with the antenna, using a BNC T-piece. Only when =
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73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message -----=20
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> Dear all,
>
> I have heard of a case that a german LF amateur had ruined his
> capacitance meter because of a static loading on the aerial!
>
> Therefore I have always preferred to measure aerial capacitance by
> checking the detuning effect of the aerial to a tuned circuit. The =
coil
> of this circuit will always ground the aerial for dc.
>
> HW?
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>
> "John GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
>>
>> Rog,
>>
>> That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital =
Cap
>> meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my =
homebrew
>> RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I
>> eventually need to resonate it.
>>
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote:
>>
>> > Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF =
across
>> > its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply subtract =
its
>> > value. 73, Rog.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
>> > From: James Moritz
>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM
>> > Subject: LF: Re: newbie help
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Paul,
>> >
>> > In a nutshell:
>> >
>> > - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable =
results
>> > on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and
>> > secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with
>> > feeders strapped would be fine.
>> >
>> > -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's
>> > antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around
>> > 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the =
order
>> > of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is
>>
>>
>>
>
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Good point Ha-Jo. When using my antenna impedance analyser, I always leave a 
50 ohm load in parallel with the antenna, using a BNC T-piece. Only when the 
antenna is connected do I remove the 50 ohm terminator, that way hopefully 
any static on the antenna is discharged through it.

73
Tom G3OLB

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> Dear all,
>
> I have heard of a case that a german LF amateur had ruined his
> capacitance meter because of a static loading on the aerial!
>
> Therefore I have always preferred to measure aerial capacitance by
> checking the detuning effect of the aerial to a tuned circuit. The coil
> of this circuit will always ground the aerial for dc.
>
> HW?
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>
> "John GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
>>
>> Rog,
>>
>> That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital Cap
>> meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my homebrew
>> RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I
>> eventually need to resonate it.
>>
>>
>> John GM4SLV
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote:
>>
>> > Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF across
>> > its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply subtract its
>> > value. 73, Rog.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: James Moritz
>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM
>> > Subject: LF: Re: newbie help
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Paul,
>> >
>> > In a nutshell:
>> >
>> > - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable results
>> > on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and
>> > secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with
>> > feeders strapped would be fine.
>> >
>> > -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's
>> > antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around
>> > 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order
>> > of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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Dear all,

I have heard of a case that a german LF amateur had ruined his
capacitance meter because of a static loading on the aerial!

Therefore I have always preferred to measure aerial capacitance by
checking the detuning effect of the aerial to a tuned circuit. The coil
of this circuit will always ground the aerial for dc.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 


"John GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> schrieb:
> 
> Rog,
> 
> That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital Cap 
> meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my homebrew 
> RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I 
> eventually need to resonate it.
> 
> 
> John GM4SLV
> 
> 
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote:
> 
> > Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF across 
> > its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply subtract its 
> > value. 73, Rog.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: James Moritz 
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM
> > Subject: LF: Re: newbie help
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Paul,
> > 
> > In a nutshell:
> > 
> > - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable results 
> > on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and 
> > secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with 
> > feeders strapped would be fine.
> > 
> > -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's 
> > antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around 
> > 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order 
> > of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is
> 
> 
> 



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Rog,

That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital Cap 
meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my homebrew 
RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I 
eventually need to resonate it.


John GM4SLV


On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote:

> Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF across 
> its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply subtract its 
> value. 73, Rog.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: James Moritz 
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: newbie help
> 
> 
> Dear Paul,
> 
> In a nutshell:
> 
> - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable results 
> on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and 
> secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with 
> feeders strapped would be fine.
> 
> -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's 
> antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around 
> 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order 
> of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is



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Hello, Lawrence.
Last night at 22.45z.
Strong QRN.
73
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Mark, Things are looking up hihi=20

The 'top' loading looks to be a usefull improvement to the array, I =
added a section to  the inverted L and found quite a improvement ... you =
have a photo you can add to  the -ng- ?=20

G ..=20

Ps ...  x band  =3D 10 GHz ?=20


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  G3KEV here 549 deep QSB
   antenna seems to be wkg!
  Also now have Xband capability to HF, as converter is to 2m
  Mark
  GM4ISM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 'top' loading looks to be a usefull =
improvement=20
to the array, I added a section to&nbsp; the inverted L and found quite =
a=20
improvement ... you have a photo you can add to&nbsp; the -ng- ? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ps ...&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>x=20
band&nbsp; =3D 10 GHz ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmarkhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk=20
  href=3D"mailto:markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk">Mark</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 27, 2007 =
10:21=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Fw: g3kev , cq on =
502.5=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV here 549 deep QSB</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;antenna seems to be =
wkg!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also now have Xband capability to HF, =
as=20
  converter is to 2m</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM4ISM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk =
href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 27, 2007 10:12 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: g3kev , cq on 502.5 </DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>g3kev calling cq , 502.5 ,&nbsp; =
copy&nbsp; 549=20
    / 449&nbsp; speaker copy at moment </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nr liverpool io83lk </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham .. =
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hi LF,

My thanks to Hartmut Wolff & Graham G0NBD for reports on last nights beacon 
run.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
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> Captured G4WGT from about 20:30 in QRSS3. Lost the signal 21:05.
>
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
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> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
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Zitat von "Scholz, Marco" <marco.scholz@citi.com>:

> Hello Uwe,
> Your beacon was really loud yesterday evening. Signal was audible and 
> i'm sure i could copy you in CW.
>
> Screenshot on http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2be_310707.jpg
>
> Receiver here agn FT-857 and a PA0DRT MiniWhip.
>
> Vy73
> Marco
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> DD7PC
> JN49ax
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Hallo Marco,
danke f=FCr den report/screenshot.

vy 73
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv






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Hello Uwe,
Your beacon was really loud yesterday evening. Signal was audible and =
i'm sure i could copy you in CW.

Screenshot on http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/di2be_310707.jpg

Receiver here agn FT-857 and a PA0DRT MiniWhip.

Vy73
Marco

DD7PC
JN49ax

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Zitat von Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Very strong signal from DI2BE
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
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Hi Lubos,
you are late up. I just switched on the TX after coming home from a =
meeting.
thanks and gn
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:17:55 +0100
"Mark" <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All, 
> Have just added 3m height and a top loading section to my antenna
> (10m pump up mast) now extended to 13m , hearing GI4DPE well 539, and
> a smashing signal from DI2BE.. 559 Anyone else on tonight?


Hello Mark, LF,

Finbar an I have a nightly sked, conditions allowing, at 11pm local on
~502.5.

Recently been troubled by lightning static which has curtailed many
QSOs.

We've both also recently been testing home-brew Field Strength
metering equipment for ERP verification and are attempting to stay
within what our gear tells us is 100mW ERP.

We may be over or under estimating, but should be within a dB or 2.
At least we're trying to be scientific about things, rather than just
turning the wick up "far enough". Make for interesting listening!

Have a listen later.

John






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Hi ALL! 
The weather is really crazy today. Strong storm started at 14:30UT and I
think it is neverending. More than two houres are continously
lightnings.
OK0EMW is switched off.
 
73 Lubos, OK2BVG 

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:40:44 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> No testing until later today as otherwise occupied, but John, I would
> like to carry out some more tests using your grabber. Also discovered
> Dave 'YXM's grabber yesterday which is most useful.
>
Tom & LF group,


My grabber will be running continuously - although often showing my
local TX signal, and ofter the freq. calibration is wrong if I switch
the RX to CW mode rather than USB

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

> SM and DL beacons are easiily audible here after dark.
> 

I can still see and hear DI2AM at the moment 10:17 Local time.

I heard G3DXZ calling CQ earlier on 502.0. Despite several tries
at calling him I got no response, then he too disappeared.

I think my low noise level in rural Shetland allows me to hear signals
better than I radiate from my short vertical!


John, GM4SLV, Shetland IO90gg


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Thank you Mal and John 'SLV,

My quarter wave has 80' vertical and the rest horizontal ending up about 30' 
AGL. There are 19 radials each between 60' and 100', some buried, some on 
the surface. It is actually my 160m antenna extended.

No testing until later today as otherwise occupied, but John, I would like 
to carry out some more tests using your grabber. Also discovered Dave 'YXM's 
grabber yesterday which is most useful.

SM and DL beacons are easiily audible here after dark.

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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Subject: LF: 500 Beacons


>A strong signal from Tom/G3OLB all day yesterday 549 and then abt 2000z
> peaking S7. Your 1/4 wave ant on 500 doing well.
> I am using a 1/4 wave here for TX at 100 ft vertical, inv L with 2 
> elevated
> insulated radials 7 ft above ground.
> I can also hear beacons day and nite on 505.1 but no cw for ID so do not
> know who they are.
> 73 Mal/G3KEV
>
> 



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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject=
: 137 condx fair/poor>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:08:11 -0800


Well its Monday 6th August 2209 (0609 local Tuesday Singapore and off to wo=
rk) -  Jim et al, long haul to Western Europe is down this early morning wi=
th DCF39 just audible and Budapest down a fair bit too so my guess is we ar=
e a little depressed at the moment. I have checked Alans excellent daily di=
sh on prop or looked at the Kp or A's to confirm. Grabbers are still runnin=
g. QRN is moderate peaking 20 over but nice clear spaces between crashes. T=
hanks for the signals. LAurence 9V1 LFhttp://kl1x.com

> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Dat=
e: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 00:30:54 +0100> Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again> > Dear LF Gr=
oup,> > Thanks for the reports from last night. I finally got the beacon go=
ing> tonight at about 2305utc on 136.319kHz, QRSS60 as before.> > Cheers, J=
im Moritz> 73 de M0BMU> >=20
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lent daily dish on prop or looked at the Kp or A's to confirm. Grabbers are=
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Thanks to all those who have replied direct/indirect - I just dont know if =
they are on +24hrs or not...
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Laurence


Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:54:10 +0100From: marco.scholz@citi.comTo: rsgb_lf=
_group@blacksheep.orgCC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comSubject: LF: RE: DI2=
BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20



sorry forgot DI2AM:
>DI2BO =3D 505,015
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>OK0EMW =3D 505.060
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>DI2AG =3D 505,090
=20
>SM6BHZ =3D 505,100
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>DI2BE =3D 505,120
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>DI2AM on 505.180
=20


From: Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] Sent: 29 August 2007 07:52To: 'rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org'Cc: 'hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com'Subject: RE: DI2BE, DI2BO=
 and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20

Hello Laurence,
here a short list:
=20

>DI2BO =3D 505,015
>OK0EMW =3D 505.060
>DI2AG =3D 505,090
>SM6BHZ =3D 505,100
>DI2BE =3D 505,120
=20
regards
Marco
DD7PC


From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 29 August 2007 07:36To: rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz=20
Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the above stat=
ions. taLaurence 9v1lf =20

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<body>Thanks to all those who have replied direct/indirect - I just dont kn=
ow if they are on +24hrs or not...<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:54:10 +0100<BR>From: marco.scholz@citi.com<BR>To:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>CC: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com<BR>Subj=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=
=3DEC_874395305-29082007>sorry forgot DI2AM:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3DEC_874395305-29082007>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><BR>&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;SM6BHZ =3D 505,100</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>&gt;DI2AM on 505.180</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=
=3DEC_874395305-29082007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3D#0000ff></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff></FONT><BR>
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<HR>
<FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Scholz, Marco [CMB-IT] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 29=
 August 2007 07:52<BR><B>To:</B> 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'<BR><B>Cc:</=
B> 'hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DI2BE, DI2BO and=
 SM6BHZ on 500 kHz <BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Hello Laurence,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>here&nbsp;a short&nbsp;list:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>
&gt;DI2BO =3D 505,015<BR>
<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>&gt;OK0EMW =3D 505.060</SPAN><BR>
&gt;DI2AG =3D 505,090<BR>
&gt;<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007>SM6</SPAN>BHZ =3D 505,100<BR>
&gt;DI2BE =3D 505,120<BR>
<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff></FO=
NT></SPAN>&nbsp;<BR>
<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>rega=
rds</FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Marc=
o</FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN class=3DEC_449244905-29082007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>DD7P=
C</FONT></SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<HR>
<B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Laurence KL1X<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29 Augus=
t 2007 07:36<BR><B>To:</B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
LF: DI2BE, DI2BO and SM6BHZ on 500 kHz <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Can someone please give me the current freq/status/modes for the=
 above stations.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>ta<BR>Laurence <BR>9v1lf<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<=
BR><BR>
<HR>
Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more=85.then map the best rout=
e! <A href=3D"http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=3D2&amp;ss=3Dyp.bars~yp.p=
izza~yp.movie theater&amp;cp=3D42.358996~-71.056691&amp;style=3Dr&amp;lvl=
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><hr />Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! <a href=3D'http=
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Hartmut,

Thanks for the screen shot. The fades look pretty deep, which agrees 
with the W3EEE plot of DCF39.

XES will be off for the next two nights, but should be back on Tuesday 
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137 kHz: Copied UA4WPF on 137.777 and WD2XES on 137.779 kHz.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz: I made a plot of the signal from G0MRF 21:00-05:00 last
night. The plot and a capture can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

There was some CW activity on the band, due to the high static level
only poor copy.

73
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Just received this from Peter G3HQT

From: Peter Ball
I put the following to Radcom a couple of months ago but it was not
published. I wondered if anyone you know in the LF fraternity might be
interested.
 'Possibly of interest to LF operator:
Large coil wound with thick Litz wire (multistrand). Length nine inches,
diameter six and a half inches. Two windings each 36 turns and a rotary link
coil of 18 turns. Believed to come from a marine transmitter covering 500
KHz. *Free to collect* from Warsash, nr. Southampton. 01489 570735'

73

Dave.
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<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Just received this from Peter G3HQT<br><br>From: Peter Ball<br></font></div>

<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="2">I put the following to Radcom a 
couple of months ago but it was not published. I wondered if anyone you know in 
the LF fraternity might be interested.</font></div>

<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div><font size="2">&#39;Possibly of interest to LF 
operator:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Large coil wound with thick Litz 
wire (multistrand). Length nine inches, diameter six and a half inches. Two 
windings each 36 turns and a rotary link coil of 18 turns. Believed to come from 
a marine transmitter covering 500 KHz. <u>Free to collect</u> from Warsash, nr. 
Southampton. 01489 570735&#39;</font></div></div>
<br clear="all">73<br><br>Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Zitat von Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Very strong signal from DI2BE
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>

Hi Lubos,
you are late up. I just switched on the TX after coming home from a
meeting.
thanks and gn
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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<font style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size=3D"2">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hello
all,<o:p /></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">di2be wil=
l
be off the air the next weeks because the operator <br /></span></p><p
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">has to climb
some mountain
peaks far away from the di2be/dj8wx QTH.<o:p /></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">regards<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0px;"><span
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:32:24 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Tnx John,
> 
> Sigs are a bit low, can just see the dots and tail in the orange
> squash ....im seeing one sig .. 503 and one sig  50 hz hf 503.05 ....
> finbar looks to be on   503.050 .. but whats on 503 dead ?
> 
> Tnx
> 
> G ..


Sorry Graham, can't help, as I can't see anything else there. 

Can copy by ear Finbar and Mal - just getting key warmed up for sked at
11pm.

I'll be interested in any reports (visual/aural) of my signal!

Cheers,

John


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Tnx John,

Sigs are a bit low, can just see the dots and tail in the orange squash 
....im seeing one sig .. 503 and one sig  50 hz hf 503.05 .... finbar looks 
to be on   503.050 .. but whats on 503 dead ?

Tnx

G ..


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> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:40:04 +0100
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>> Seeing something on 503.05
>
>
> Graham,
>
> That's Finbar.
>
>
> I'm also hearing G3KEV calling CQ on 502.5. I worked Mal earlier at
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> John GM4SLV.
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:40:04 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Seeing something on 503.05 


Graham,

That's Finbar.


I'm also hearing G3KEV calling CQ on 502.5. I worked Mal earlier at
18:00 UTC

John GM4SLV.


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Seeing something on 503.05 , and 503.95 , g3xiz ? if finbars on, signal =
is well down , nothing showing at birmingham ,,odd ?

G ..
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi All,=20
  Have just added 3m height and a top loading section to my antenna (10m =
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  Anyone else on tonight?

  Mark GM4ISM
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Colin

I'm CQing now 0725 local.

Tom G3OLB
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  'evening boys,

  Calling CQ tonight from 2100 local to around 2200 on 502Khz.

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Hi Wim,

Looks like DL2HRE using DFCW.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Capture tonights viewing
> 
> 1.39am
> 
> But who is  ??
> 
> 73s wim pa3ego
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Seeing a very low signal on 503.000 Khz , very low with qsb, any one know 
from who ?

Tnx

G ..






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Mike,

    Forgot to mention Ted KC3OL (WD2XYW) who is currently running QRP on 137 but should be on with some power in a few weeks. Ted is in Kansas.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
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> Sorry, my last message was intended for John Andrews (or any NA station).
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> Mike ZL4OL
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> > whether your licences in the US permit QSO's with DX stations? Our band is 
> > 130 to 190kHz so we can QSO anywhere in that range.
> >
> > Mike ZL4OL 
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> 



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Sorry, my last message was intended for John Andrews (or any NA station).

Mike ZL4OL
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> Hello John,
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> whether your licences in the US permit QSO's with DX stations? Our band is 
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>
> Mike ZL4OL 



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Initial test's on a dx beacon proved encouraging  > =
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  As in previous years, there will be Tesla coil demonstrations at the =
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:31:46 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi John, LF,
> 
> I'm hearing Finbar in QSO with you on 502.500, but no sign of your
> signals. QRN noise level is quite high tonight.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
>

Thanks Dave

I think tonight isn't the best for my first real foray on the band. The
static crashes are S7-9 here. Finbar is a reasonably good signal, and
without the QRN would be a nice clear 579.

As far as I know this is the first GM - GI QSO on the 500kHz amateur
allocation. 


Regards to all and hope to have quieter evenings later in the week.

73 de GM4SLV


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Dear John, LF Group,

Similar here - very faint line where your signal should be on the
spectrogram screen, but nothing audible yet. GI4DPE peaking at about S6
between fades.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [500] LF: QSO with GI4DPE


> Hi John, LF,
>
> I'm hearing Finbar in QSO with you on 502.500, but no sign of your
signals.
> QRN noise level is quite high tonight.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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Hi John, LF,

I'm hearing Finbar in QSO with you on 502.500, but no sign of your signals.
QRN noise level is quite high tonight.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:41:07 +0100
"Tom Boucher" <tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Many thanks Hartmut & Jim. I'm closing down now 2141Z.
>
> 73
> Tom G3OLB
>

Tom, LF

I can see traces of your signal on the waterfall and can read the
occasional callsign as it fades up under the S7-9 static crashes.

I've been alternately listening/watching the band and calling CQ on
502.5. Nothing else seen or heard as yet.

Regards,

John, GM4SLV, Shetland IP90gg





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OK, Watching...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:42:23 +0100
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> Hi, John.
> 
> Thanks for running your grabber. I shut down to listen for your QSO
> with Finbar, but I couldn't hear your sigs :-((
> 
> My sigs stared to show intermittently from about 2050z onwards.
> 
> QRN seems to building up again this evening, but if you want to send
> to me, I'll take a look for you. Steady carrier would be best, as I
> can then screw the RX bandwidth right down!
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Dave, LF

Have got QRSS3 running on 503.3 (+/-) for ten minutes
until 2300 LT when I'll try with Finbar again on 502.5 CW

Cheers,

John





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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:42:23 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John.
> 
> Thanks for running your grabber. I shut down to listen for your QSO
> with Finbar, but I couldn't hear your sigs :-((
> 
> My sigs stared to show intermittently from about 2050z onwards.
> 
> QRN seems to building up again this evening, but if you want to send
> to me, I'll take a look for you. Steady carrier would be best, as I
> can then screw the RX bandwidth right down!
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Dave, LF

Have got QRSS3 running on 503.3 (+/-) for ten minutes
until 2300 LT when I'll try with Finbar again on 502.5 CW

Cheers,

John


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Hi, John.

Thanks for running your grabber. I shut down to listen for your QSO with
Finbar, but I couldn't hear your sigs :-((

My sigs stared to show intermittently from about 2050z onwards.

QRN seems to building up again this evening, but if you want to send to me,
I'll take a look for you. Steady carrier would be best, as I can then screw
the RX bandwidth right down!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: [500]: G3WCB beaconing on 503.8 kHz


On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:14:42 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Hartmut.
>
> Thanks for the report. I've got a new crystal near the top of the
> band, and you caught me QSYing from 503.840 down to 503.800. I'm also
> showing on GM4SLV's grabber.
>
> ERP is about 50 mW
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>

I've just had an unsuccessfly QSO attempt with Finbar, and had changed
the RX to CW mode/narrow.

Having seen your email (above)  I've set it back to "full band" while
waiting for another try with Finbar at 11pm local.

I can't see your sigs at the moment Dave, just the 504kHz sig that I
presume is RTE's 2nd Harmonic, as well as DI2AM and DI2BE.



Cheers,

John GM4SLV





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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:14:42 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Hartmut.
> 
> Thanks for the report. I've got a new crystal near the top of the
> band, and you caught me QSYing from 503.840 down to 503.800. I'm also
> showing on GM4SLV's grabber.
> 
> ERP is about 50 mW
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 

I've just had an unsuccessfly QSO attempt with Finbar, and had changed
the RX to CW mode/narrow. 

Having seen your email (above)  I've set it back to "full band" while
waiting for another try with Finbar at 11pm local. 

I can't see your sigs at the moment Dave, just the 504kHz sig that I
presume is RTE's 2nd Harmonic, as well as DI2AM and DI2BE.



Cheers, 

John GM4SLV


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Hi, Hartmut.

Thanks for the report. I've got a new crystal near the top of the band, and
you caught me QSYing from 503.840 down to 503.800. I'm also showing on
GM4SLV's grabber.

ERP is about 50 mW

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: LF: G3WCB beaconing on 503.8 kHz


G3WCB is transmitting in QRSS3 on 503.8 kHz. After the start at about
20:25 there was some fading but now at 21:00 the signal is strong and
stable.
Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp






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John, I am not sure if I sent this correctly so am resending it.  If I  am in 
the shack later I will look for you on Finbars frequency.
 
Peter
 
In a message dated 15/08/2007 13:16:36 Greenwich Standard Time, ColePe  
writes:

 
John,
 
the faint trace I saw was just before Finbar signed with you  and from your 
comments below I feel sure that it was your signal.   You were probably on full 
power as I heard Finbar say about using normal power  in case someone was 
listening.
You are almost due north from here (1113km, 7.66 deg) and a big  problem is 
that the highest parts of Dartmoor are in the way.   Experience to date shows 
that Dartmoor has a very serious affect on LF  signals. It will be a challenge 
but, with lower static and more hours of  darkness in which to play, we have a 
better chance of a qso in the next  few months.
 
73, Peter G3JFS
IO70WJ
 
 
 In a message dated 14/08/2007 23:23:02 Greenwich Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On  Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:55:34 EDT
ColePe@aol.com wrote:

>  John,
> I have been listening to Finbar working you for about 15 mins.  He is
> solid copy as usual but I can't hear you.  However if you  are on the
> same  frequency I did detect briefly a very faint  trace, too weak to
> be of use but  still encouraging if it was  your signal.  Look forward
> to working you one  day.  
> Off to bed now.


Thanks for the report  Peter,

Conditions weren't the best tonight - some odd QSB  etc.

We started at 22:00 UTC and very quickly went into a series of  QRPp
tests. I wonder what time you were listening. In the first 1/2 hour  I
went quickly down from 50W TX power (~100mW ERP +/-) to 10W / 1W  /
500mW / 250mW / 100mW and finally 50mW!

At 50mW my ERP must be  miniscule!

Finbar copied me down to 100mW (a struggle at that but  read my reported
power) and heard dashes at 50mW

I guess the path  between me and you is fairly difficult - being mostly
overland (must  check on a map).

Oh..and yes, I was on (near enough - hand tuned  VFOs) the same
frequency as Finbar, so it probably was my  signal.

Cheers and good night - off to bed for me  too.

John












   

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John,
I have been listening to Finbar working you for about 15 mins. He is solid  
copy as usual but I can't hear you.  However if you are on the same  frequency 
I did detect briefly a very faint trace, too weak to be of use but  still 
encouraging if it was your signal.  Look forward to working you one  day.
 
Off to bed now.
 
Goodnight from Plymouth
de Peter G3JFS
ex GM3JFS, VK6AI, 5Z4PQ and DA1PE
G-QRP 10890, FISTS 8985
 
In a message dated 14/08/2007 21:17:06 Greenwich Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:



Peter,

Thanks for the info. I was a late starter on 500  after much thinking
about the likelyhood of it being useable from this  range.

ALso -  I wasn't really sure whether to get going on the  band in
mid-summer - especially from this northern latitude, where it  doesn't
actually get dark in May, June & July. 

Things are  starting to improve, and I thought I'd at least use these
few weeks of  "summer" to work on an antenna of sorts and try to work a
few  stations.

I look forward to working you when you come back on the  band

Regards,

John


> Cheers,
> 
> John



--  
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB,  ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club :  http://www.gm3zet.org







   

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Dave
> Remember also if you are using QRSS you must send your callsign at 
> FREQUENT intervals at normal speed.

Only out of politeness. The only MUST is once every 15mins in the
same mode as the main transmission


Stewart G3YSX


