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Dear LF Group,

I am gathering some information for a forthcoming RSGB book - one topic is
using Software-defined radios on LF / MF. As well as the Softrock-type
devices, I seem to remember some people are using some of the commercially
available SDRs. I would be very interested to know what kind of results
people have been getting on the 136k and 500k bands.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Hall ,

What is "intruder" transmission !

03:30 > 04:30 on ~137.777

captures at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht











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Thanks Mal -and if I meet up with Doc ill pass on your best. We are having =
a cook out and 160m antennae experimental set up this weekend with SARC but=
 unfortunately Ill be resting after a hopefully small op, but may give them=
 a signal to listen to.
=20
Im living off Alexander road down by the canal and no chance of a detached =
house or grounds for HF/LF as rents start at around 20,000 USD per month (!=
!!) so Im blessed here with a top floor apartment and  small verticals. Nic=
e thing is its pretty quiet on LF with a reasonable park at the back. Im ho=
ping we may have the chance at some form of X band this winter on LF - some=
 hope but you never know as its the first place for a few years I can reall=
y radiate a few Watts back.
=20
CHeers
=20
Laurence=20
Http://kl1x.com
=20


From: g3kev.ham@virgin.netTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Tue, 31 Jul=
 2007 10:31:48 +0000Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again



Laurence.
I lived in Singapore for 4 yerars 1970 time. My qth was Braddell heights. I=
t was out in the countryside in those days, I had a detached residence and =
about half an acre of gardens, great for antennas hi.
My call was 9V1OY and across in Malaya 9M2CC. I still have the licence docu=
ments.
If you meet 9V1NR Doc Singh give him my 73
73 de Mal/G3KEV
=20
=20

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Laurence KL1X=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: LF: 137 Again
Will be looking and listening - thanks Laurence 9V1 LF=20


Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:19:31 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 AgainHi Laurence,Have set up =
to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 to 23:45 utcon 136=
.319 QRSS 60 all being well.Thanks for listening73 Laurie

Missed the show?  Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. See them n=
ow!=20
_________________________________________________________________
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RC but unfortunately Ill be resting after a hopefully small op, but may giv=
e them a signal to listen to.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im living off Alexander road down by the canal and no chance of a detached =
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!!) so Im blessed here with a top floor apartment and&nbsp; small verticals=
. Nice thing is its pretty quiet on LF with a reasonable park at the back. =
Im hoping we may have the chance at some form of X band this winter on LF -=
 some hope but you never know as its the first place for a few years I can =
really radiate a few Watts back.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
CHeers<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I lived in Singapore for 4 yerars 1970 time. My qth=
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 detached residence and about half an acre of gardens, great</FONT><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial>&nbsp;for antennas hi.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>My call was 9V1OY and across in Malaya 9M2CC. I sti=
ll have the licence documents.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>If you meet 9V1NR Doc Singh give him my 73</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:12 PM=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Will be looking and listening - thanks<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence=
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:19:31 +0100<BR>From: <A href=3D"mailto:laurie.may=
head@googlemail.com">laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com</A><BR>To: <A href=3D"ma=
ilto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR>Subj=
ect: LF: 137 Again<BR><BR>Hi Laurence,<BR>Have set up to transmit on 136.31=
9kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 to 23:45 utc<BR>on 136.319 QRSS 60 all =
being well.<BR>Thanks for listening<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Laurence.
I lived in Singapore for 4 yerars 1970 time. My qth was Braddell =
heights. It was out in the countryside in those days, I had a detached =
residence and about half an acre of gardens, great for antennas hi.
My call was 9V1OY and across in Malaya 9M2CC. I still have the licence =
documents.
If you meet 9V1NR Doc Singh give him my 73
73 de Mal/G3KEV


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence KL1X=20
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  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:12 PM
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  Will be looking and listening - thanks
  =20
  Laurence 9V1 LF




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    Hi Laurence,
    Have set up to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 =
to 23:45 utc
    on 136.319 QRSS 60 all being well.
    Thanks for listening
    73 Laurie



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Laurence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I lived in Singapore for 4 yerars 1970 time. My =
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Will be looking and listening - thanks
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:19:31 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 to 23:45 utcon 136=
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aurence,<BR>Have set up to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from =
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ok  thanks Laurie - going back to bed!!
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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:09:14 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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Sorry.. that should be 137.6998 kHz!

Joe

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Joe Craig wrote:

> Hi Laurie,
>
> Very weak traces were seen on 139.6998 but it was around 0100 utc.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, John Andrews wrote:
>
> > Laurie,
> >
> > > John thanks for listening, but I must close now (midnight local ).
> >
> > I understand. Hope you and Laurence have some luck this week.
> >
> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> >
> >
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Will be looking again tonight/morning from here Laurie if you can spend the=
 elec bill!
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Laurence 9v1lf
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(cheers Joe)



> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:36:46 -0230> From: jcraig@mun.ca> To: rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: 137 Again> > Hi Laurie,> > Very weak =
traces were seen on 139.6998 but it was around 0100 utc.> > 73> Joe VO1NA> =
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<body>Will be looking again tonight/morning from here&nbsp;Laurie if you ca=
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Laurence 9v1lf<BR>
grabbers up - <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com">http://kl1x.com</A><BR>
(cheers Joe)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>

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Hi Laurie,

Very weak traces were seen on 139.6998 but it was around 0100 utc.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, John Andrews wrote:

> Laurie,
>
> > John thanks for listening, but I must close now (midnight local ).
>
> I understand. Hope you and Laurence have some luck this week.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
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> John thanks for listening, but I must close now (midnight local ).

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John thanks for listening, but I must close now (midnight local ).

Lawrence, will try again tomorrow night 20:00 utc .

73 Laurie G3AQC

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John thanks for listening, but I must close now (midnight local ).<br><br>Lawrence, will try again tomorrow night 20:00 utc .<br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC <br>

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=20
Laurence 9V1 LF
grabbers http://kl1x.com
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:38:40 -0700From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
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<body>Caught me before bed time ! So will put the rx's on a take a listen -=
 thanks for this Laurie<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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Chris,

Well, I seem to recall Isaac Asimov once traced an error in the published=
 value of a physical constant and found the error had been propagated=
 through several learned papers, so I would be in good (?) company.

73
John

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 28/07/2007 at 22:01 Chris Trayner wrote:

>Dear John and others,
>
> 
>> Mea culpa! Sorry, Chris.
>> John
>
>Not at all - I'm afraid I'm guilty of having worded my email carelessly.
>You were kind enough to request useful readings (and repeat another email
>with the dates). I don't see that you can be expected to check up on
>everything you quote - if we all did that, we'd follow every trail all the
>way back to Faraday and Maxwell.
>
>Sorry if I seemed to blaming anyone, especially you.
>
>73,
>Chris
>
>-----------------------------
>Dr Chris Trayner
>School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering,
>The University of Leeds,
>Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom
>Tel: +44 113 34 32053
>Fax: +44 113 34 32032







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Looks like we have 'beacon bedlam' at the moment, just come back into  the 
shack, and g3vev is now on 503.6 , as it looks like every one is using a pc 
to  genarate the keying signal. instead of blanked requests for 'Asylam' 
keeping on the bealam theam.....

Why not just do it properly and allocate one frequency and  time slots .. im 
sure there is  someone who could come up with a bit of code to  lock the 
keyer to  the pc clock .

I can see repetitive traces on , 501.28, 501.5, 503.5,  503.8  .. if we 
where all 'timed' the tx times could be shorter and I  and everyone ealse 
would know what we where looking at, ..  and that would leave vast areas of 
the band free .... for those of us who are experimenting with data 
transmission !

G .. :-)







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Hello LF group,

Just a quick update on things in the far north.

I took down my 500kHz antenna on Friday in preperation for a new
installation in a better location further away from the house. My
neighbour who owns the surrounding croft-land kindly offerred a patch
of damp ground about 50m from the house that can easily be fenced in to
keep sheep away from the antenna & stays. I will have at my disposal a
20m x 15m area of wet ground.

I should be able to fill it with radials and several earth rods. I will
also tie in the adjacent fences into the earth system.

I hope to radically improve the ground efficiency.

For the antenna itself - I received a new Spiderbeam 12m fibreglass
pole yesterday and intend to erect it (possibly not all 12m of it) as a
vertical and to run 4 capacity wires along the top guys for about 4-5m.
It should come out somewhere similar in Rrad as the small top loaded
affair I have been using which seemed to work reasonably, but with much
better grounding it should be more efficient.

My new Mark 2 TX was completed over the weekend too. It uses IRF640 FET
as the PA with a trifilar 9:1 transformer as the drain load. It happily
loafs along at 25W on a supply of 13.8v and can easily produce
well over 70W if I raise the supply volts. I should comfortably be able
to drive the antenna to 100mW ERP!

Hopefully (weather permitting) I'll complete the new antenna
installation over the forthcoming week and be QRV by the weekend.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
IP90GG
Shetland


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Hi Everyone

Been awhile since I had something worth posting...

I had the pleasure of hosting Bob, ZL2CA of the ZM2E team for dinner 
this evening while he and his lovely XYL, Sue passed through town taking 
in the sites of Vancouver and BC.

While quaffing ales, we discussed the future of LF radio in Canada and 
even the future of Quartz Hill down under... 

Something that came out of our chat over dinner was there seemed to be a 
misconception over the present silence from the VE's on LF.

The reality of our silence on 2200m this summer, and perhaps forever, is 
that it is part of the Canadian proposal to seek the band for all 
nations that choose to allocate it after (a hopefully successful) 
WRC-2007 conference.  We are presently working on completing our 
experimental reports for submission to our colleagues at RAC and 
Industry Canada to support the Canadian proposal at WRC-2007 for the 
worldwide 2200m secondary amateur allocation.  This was planned well in 
advance and was mutually agreed upon by all the Canadian experimenters 
in consultation with RAC and Industry Canada well over two years ago.  
RAC and Industry Canada did not suddenly pull the plug as some have 
reported.

I hope this clarifies the misconception perpetuated by some reports that 
didn't have their facts straight or choose to draw negative implications.

In the coming weeks we will likely need to draw upon our friends from 
around the world to prepare our final reports where we can all 
demonstrate to the world amateur radio has a place on the LF spectrum.  
We hope if the call goes out, many will help.

There's a lot of negatively in the world today and I for one would like 
to remain focused on the positive. And we (VA7LF) look forward to trying 
again with ZM2E next spring if all goes accordingly to 'the grand plan.'

73 Scott
VE7TIL


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If you take a look at the BBMF calendar, you'll see that he was also in your 
area yesterday along with the Spitfire and Hurricane, from the BBMF.

http://www.airshows.org.uk/ukmilitary/raf/bbmf.html

73s Tracey




>    I had a visit today by a Lancaster Bomber that flew a circuit around my
> antenna mast and field then turned S/E and disappeared. I wonder if he had 
> a
> Signaller/AEO on board with an 1154/1155 or the older 1092 HF rig, we 
> could
> have had a QSO.
> This was early afternoon. Did anyone else have a visit today.
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough/io94sh


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Hi Mal,

didn't get a direct visit from a plane but a while back DI2BO got a
reception report from an airborne plane when the beacon was still operating
on 440 kHz. The radio compass did show the proper direction to my qth, thr
guy on board reported. Perhaps the plane received your 500 kHz signals and
homed in on them.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO



----- Original Message ----- 
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>     I had a visit today by a Lancaster Bomber that flew a circuit around
my
> antenna mast and field then turned S/E and disappeared. I wonder if he had
a
> Signaller/AEO on board with an 1154/1155 or the older 1092 HF rig, we
could
> have had a QSO.
> This was early afternoon. Did anyone else have a visit today.
> 73 De Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough/io94sh
>
>



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Hi Laurence,
Have set up to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 to
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Hi Laurence,<br>Have set up to transmit on 136.319kHz, will be on tonight from 19:45 to 23:45 utc<br>on 136.319 QRSS 60 all being well.<br>Thanks for listening<br>73 Laurie<br>

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Yes your right, I'm geting some pre-amble before the 'M0'  looked like a g 
on the screen, but may be a fast cw burst , i was looking at io 99 , 
confusing afternoon, finbar usually comes up on 503.8 , took a couple of 
cycles to confirm it was not him ..

Its amazing what you can see in the 'orange haze' of spec-lab

Rgds

G ..

Ps : Its lucky all these beacons are not being used for navigation


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>> gm0bmu ,  439  qra , io91br    , 503.8  khz
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> Think that might be M0BMU?
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> IO91 is a long way from GM land.
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> Cheers de John GM4SLV IP90gg, Shetland Is
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:51:43 +0100
"Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> gm0bmu ,  439  qra , io91br    , 503.8  khz 


Think that might be M0BMU?

IO91 is a long way from GM land.


Cheers de John GM4SLV IP90gg, Shetland Is


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G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk  looks like  501.4 Khz=20

gm0bmu ,  439  qra , io91br    , 503.8  khz=20

two other traces  100 hz hf  and 100 hz lf of 501.4 ,but too week to  =
catch call's=20

G ..=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:59 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


  Hi All,



  Beacon Keeper's : Beacon schedule page, google group -uk500khz-



  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule



  If your running a beacon, please indicate your approximate or expected =
operating times. If your not on the list, or the data is wrong, please =
add or amend  your details.=20



  The page is open so  you can update it as the situation changes=20

  =20

  Tnx G..=20









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk&nbsp; looks =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gm0bmu ,&nbsp; 439&nbsp; qra ,=20
io91br&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; , 503.8&nbsp; khz </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two other traces&nbsp; 100 hz&nbsp;hf =
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hz lf of 501.4 ,but too week to&nbsp; catch call's </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20
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Hi all
We need more countries active on 500 for DXCC.
So far I have only worked SM, DL, GM, GI, GW and G. What has happened to GD
and GC plus the EC countries to start with.
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Hartmut,

> Great WOLF signal from WD2XES last night. Best around 02:25 with copy
> on the second line.

That is amazing! If you look at the DCF39 plot on Steve Dove's site:
http://www.w3eee.com
you will see the best reception of the night around 0230. It's probably 
a coincidence, but it's interesting...

Thanks!

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Copied UA4WPF on 137.7772 kHz until 23:30. First part of the
transmission with QRM from 137.7kHz. Thought the frequencies for EU DX
Beacons are a bit lower on the band?

Great WOLF signal from WD2XES last night. Best around 02:25 with copy
on the second line.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Tks Jose - email you direct.
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Dear all.

I received this yesterday:

i am QRV from IN78WA  west France in Britanny
29 july to 02 aug  morning  09h00 utc  and night 19h00/21h00 utc
F6CWA/P  IN78WA  // 137.7 QRSS 3"

I missed him this morning, I'll try tonight.

Dave.
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Dear all.<br><br>I received this yesterday:<br><br><font style="font-style: italic;" face="Arial" size="2"><div><font face="Arial" size="2">i am QRV from IN78WA&nbsp; west France in Britanny 
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">29 july to 02 aug&nbsp; morning&nbsp; 09h00 
utc&nbsp; and night 19h00/21h00 utc </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">F6CWA/P&nbsp; IN78WA&nbsp; // 137.7 QRSS 
3&quot;</font></div></font><br>I missed him this morning, I&#39;ll try tonight.<br><br clear="all">Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hi,

Hearing Finbar GI4DPE beacon never as strong as tonight, 30db over noise, 
solid signal.

Hearing Mike GW4HXO calling CQ   just over noise, had to listen very 
carefully to get call sign but not heard before.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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 David,
 thanks for the comments

 73
 Hartmut
 
> Hello Harmut.
 
> No not 2.5mW this evening.
> The beacon was down for reprogramming today and I took the opportunity to  
> add a key input.
 
> With a friend coming over to see the 500k station I turned up the drive to  
> the amplifier to make some CW QSOs on 502.0
 
> I worked Mal G3KEV at 19.00  for my second QSO on 500k  received  559 report
> followed by Brian  G3UNT 
> and then Alan G3XAQ by which time Garo G0PZA had taken over my  straight key.
 
> Power was between 50 and 70mW at different times.  I returned to  503.700 for 
> just two cycles of the beacon.  You appear to have captured the  entire 
> sequence.  What is particually remarkable about the capture is that  after the last 
> QRSS   MRF, where the signal is coming up in QSB,   you can see two sidebands 
> offset by 15Hz and then an area of 'energy' over 20 Hz  or so.  These signals 
> are from the PSK phase reversals followed by the PSK  data. To see this PSK31 
> data signal at 760km when it is spread over a relatively  wide bandwidth 
> demonstrates some good condtions and presumably low noise / good  RX at your end.
 
> Thank you. - Seeing the PSK was really nice.
 
> 73
 
> David
 
 
 
 
> In a message dated 27/07/2007 21:17:34 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
> writes:

> Just captured MRF on 503.7 kHz. Is this still 2.5 mW  ERP?

> Capture can be seen  here:


> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator:  JO52hp


 
> G0MRF putting a very solid 579 into Canterbury just now at 2030 on  
> 502.0. QRN low again tonight. His pal G0PZA, Garo, is on he key.
> --  

> Cheers,

> Alan G3XAQ
> alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk



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Hello Harmut.
 
No not 2.5mW this evening.
The beacon was down for reprogramming today and I took the opportunity to  
add a key input.
 
With a friend coming over to see the 500k station I turned up the drive to  
the amplifier to make some CW QSOs on 502.0
 
I worked Mal G3KEV at 19.00  for my second QSO on 500k  received  559 report
followed by Brian  G3UNT 
and then Alan G3XAQ by which time Garo G0PZA had taken over my  straight key.
 
Power was between 50 and 70mW at different times.  I returned to  503.700 for 
just two cycles of the beacon.  You appear to have captured the  entire 
sequence.  What is particually remarkable about the capture is that  after the last 
QRSS   MRF, where the signal is coming up in QSB,   you can see two sidebands 
offset by 15Hz and then an area of 'energy' over 20 Hz  or so.  These signals 
are from the PSK phase reversals followed by the PSK  data. To see this PSK31 
data signal at 760km when it is spread over a relatively  wide bandwidth 
demonstrates some good condtions and presumably low noise / good  RX at your end.
 
Thank you. - Seeing the PSK was really nice.
 
73
 
David
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 27/07/2007 21:17:34 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
writes:

Just captured MRF on 503.7 kHz. Is this still 2.5 mW  ERP?

Capture can be seen  here:


73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:  JO52hp


 
G0MRF putting a very solid 579 into Canterbury just now at 2030 on  
502.0. QRN low again tonight. His pal G0PZA, Garo, is on he key.
--  

Cheers,

Alan G3XAQ
alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk










   

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<DIV>Hello Harmut.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>No not 2.5mW this evening.</DIV>
<DIV>The beacon was down for reprogramming today and I took the opportunity=20=
to=20
add a key input.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>With a friend coming over to see the 500k station I turned up the drive=
 to=20
the amplifier to make some CW QSOs on 502.0</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I worked Mal G3KEV at 19.00&nbsp; for my second QSO on 500k&nbsp; recei=
ved=20
559 report</DIV>
<DIV>followed by Brian&nbsp; G3UNT </DIV>
<DIV>and then Alan G3XAQ by which time Garo G0PZA&nbsp;had taken over my=20
straight key.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Power was between 50 and 70mW at different times. &nbsp;I returned to=20
503.700 for just two cycles of the beacon.&nbsp; You appear to have captured=
 the=20
entire sequence.&nbsp; What is particually remarkable about the capture is t=
hat=20
after the last QRSS&nbsp;&nbsp; MRF, where the signal is coming up in QSB,&n=
bsp;=20
you can see two sidebands offset by 15Hz and then an area of 'energy' over 2=
0 Hz=20
or so.&nbsp; These signals are from the PSK phase reversals followed by the=20=
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wide bandwidth demonstrates some good condtions and presumably low noise / g=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you. - Seeing the PSK was really nice.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 27/07/2007 21:17:34 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.d=
e=20
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  size=3D2>Just captured MRF on 503.7 kHz. Is this still 2.5 mW=20
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n=20
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=20
  <BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Alan G3XAQ<BR>alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk<BR></DIV>
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Hi Dave,
You haven't seen the SW-G/GW band-plan om!
FYI, could just perceive ur sigs whilst wkg Tom - Brian/UNT was just =
just abt readable.
73, Rog.

----- Original Message -----=20
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On 30 Jul 2007 at 16:00, Tom Boucher wrote:

> I have a full quarter wave inverted L, 80' vertical and 420'
> horizontal. Currently beaconing on about 502Kc/s. Any reports
> gratefully received!

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On 30 Jul 2007 at 16:00, Tom Boucher wrote:

> I have a full quarter wave inverted L, 80' vertical and 420'
> horizontal. Currently beaconing on about 502Kc/s. Any reports
> gratefully received!

You may find if you beacon on that frequency for long that you get 
some complaints - there are quite a few who are rock bound on that 
frequency!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Thanks Dave, Rog & Mike,

I have a full quarter wave inverted L, 80' vertical and 420' horizontal. 
Currently beaconing on about 502Kc/s. Any reports gratefully received!

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> On 30 Jul 2007 at 14:23, Gw3UEP wrote:
>
>> Tom, Fantastic sig now om!
>> Rog.
>
> Yes indeed Tom. Peaking 599 in Bracknell, not bad for middle of the
> day!
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> 73 Dave G3YMC
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On 30 Jul 2007 at 14:23, Gw3UEP wrote:

> Tom, Fantastic sig now om!
> Rog.

Yes indeed Tom. Peaking 599 in Bracknell, not bad for middle of the 
day!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello all,

Tomorrow afternoon, from 16:00 UTC onwards, I=B4ll be in a quiet =
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Common sense.

1] Sure, keep the digi/pc/auto modes >503.
2] Don't create a minefield for newcomers - this control-freak stuff is =
a real turn-off.
3] Let's get on with experiments & qso's.

Rog.

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In a message dated 27/07/2007 13:07:08 GMT Standard Time, =
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Afraid I agree with Roger - it hardly qualifies as a 'band' anyway! =
Beacons are useful when the frequency is sparsely populated as it is =
currently. At evenings/week ends, let's just be aware that there may be =
QSO's taking place and listen before transmitting.

Tom G3OLB
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 - BAND PLAN


  Sorry chaps,
  This seems to escalating out of all proportion, yet more =
over-regulation - KISS!
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Cc: c.cjo@btinternet.com=20
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500 - BAND PLAN


  Hello Chris / group.

  Thank you for the proposed band plan. Looks very sensible.

  I suspect that as 500kHz continues to evolve, use of the different =
modes will experience peaks and troughs in their popularity and some =
expansion or contraction of segments may occur to accommodate these =
changes.

  Of course there must always be the provision for a new station on the =
band who may be crystal controlled to transmit wherever they are able =
to. But hopefully, when the interest takes hold, that person will want =
to build a VFO of some sort and will then be able to follow the =
bandplan.

  Personally, I think the trend for transmitting beacons will quickly =
wear off. Equally I feel it would only take a couple of long distance =
QSOs using QRSS for that to become very popular albeit for a short time. =
Nevertheless some fairly consistent presence on the band does provide a =
signal to listen to and encourage people to join in. Perhaps a reduction =
in the 'beacon segment' and expansion of the QRSS segment may be =
beneficial.

  Looking to the future, if our access to the band is extended beyond =
03/08, then it may be nice to have beacons better organised.  It is nice =
to know when propagation is favourable but there is little point having =
lots of signals from the same general geographic location. I know these =
days locking a beacon to a time signal (MSF or GPS) is fairly =
straightforward and perhaps a small network on a single frequency could =
be a long term objective. For example.  4 stations on 1 frequency but  =
located in the 4 corners of the UK.. It would be very efficient on =
spectrum and have less potential for desensing locally.

  Perhaps all this could be discussed at the HF convention where I'm =
sure there will be a couple of lectures on 500k.

  Once again, thanks for the bandplan initiative

  73

  David






  In a message dated 26/07/2007 20:56:02 GMT Standard Time, =
c.cjo@btinternet.com writes:
    CT
    DISCUSSION POINTS

    Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as =
possible to the inconvenience of as few as possible.

    There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons from =
the 'straight' cw segment of the band.

    There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during =
times of likely high cw activity (weekends).

    QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations.

    As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, =
local QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's =
with more distant stations.

    It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate =
'homing in' on weaker stations.

    Is there a  case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal =
controlled transmission ?

    73 G3XIZ SK


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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500 - BAND =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Sorry chaps,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>This seems to escalating out of all =
proportion, yet=20
  more over-regulation - KISS!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
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  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dc.cjo@btinternet.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:c.cjo@btinternet.com">c.cjo@btinternet.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 10:45 AM</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hello Chris / group.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thank you for the proposed band plan. Looks very sensible.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I suspect that as 500kHz continues to evolve, use of the =
different modes=20
  will experience peaks and troughs in their popularity and some =
expansion or=20
  contraction of segments may occur to accommodate these changes.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Of course there must always be the provision for a new station on =
the=20
  band who may be crystal controlled to transmit wherever they are able =
to. But=20
  hopefully, when the interest takes hold, that person will want to =
build a VFO=20
  of some sort and will then be able to follow the bandplan.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Personally, I think the trend for transmitting beacons will =
quickly wear=20
  off. Equally&nbsp;I feel it would only take a couple of long distance =
QSOs=20
  using QRSS for that to become very popular albeit for a short time.=20
  Nevertheless some fairly consistent&nbsp;presence on the =
band&nbsp;does=20
  provide a signal to&nbsp;listen to&nbsp;and encourage people to join =
in.=20
  Perhaps a reduction in the 'beacon segment' and expansion of the QRSS =
segment=20
  may be beneficial.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Looking to the future, if our access to the band is extended =
beyond=20
  03/08, then it may be nice to have beacons better organised.&nbsp; It =
is nice=20
  to know when propagation is favourable but there is little point =
having lots=20
  of signals from the same general geographic location. I know these =
days=20
  locking a beacon to a time signal (MSF or GPS) is fairly =
straightforward and=20
  perhaps a small network on a single frequency could be a long term =
objective.=20
  For example.&nbsp; 4 stations on 1 frequency but&nbsp; located in the =
4=20
  corners of the UK.. It would be very efficient on spectrum and have =
less=20
  potential for desensing locally.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Perhaps all this could be discussed at the HF convention where =
I'm sure=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Once again, thanks for the bandplan initiative</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>David</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>In a message dated 26/07/2007 20:56:02 GMT Standard Time,=20
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separated from=20
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stations.<BR><BR>Is=20
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Sorry chaps,
This seems to escalating out of all proportion, yet more over-regulation =
- KISS!
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: G0MRF@aol.com=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: c.cjo@btinternet.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 - BAND PLAN


Hello Chris / group.

Thank you for the proposed band plan. Looks very sensible.

I suspect that as 500kHz continues to evolve, use of the different modes =
will experience peaks and troughs in their popularity and some expansion =
or contraction of segments may occur to accommodate these changes.

Of course there must always be the provision for a new station on the =
band who may be crystal controlled to transmit wherever they are able =
to. But hopefully, when the interest takes hold, that person will want =
to build a VFO of some sort and will then be able to follow the =
bandplan.

Personally, I think the trend for transmitting beacons will quickly wear =
off. Equally I feel it would only take a couple of long distance QSOs =
using QRSS for that to become very popular albeit for a short time. =
Nevertheless some fairly consistent presence on the band does provide a =
signal to listen to and encourage people to join in. Perhaps a reduction =
in the 'beacon segment' and expansion of the QRSS segment may be =
beneficial.

Looking to the future, if our access to the band is extended beyond =
03/08, then it may be nice to have beacons better organised.  It is nice =
to know when propagation is favourable but there is little point having =
lots of signals from the same general geographic location. I know these =
days locking a beacon to a time signal (MSF or GPS) is fairly =
straightforward and perhaps a small network on a single frequency could =
be a long term objective. For example.  4 stations on 1 frequency but  =
located in the 4 corners of the UK.. It would be very efficient on =
spectrum and have less potential for desensing locally.

Perhaps all this could be discussed at the HF convention where I'm sure =
there will be a couple of lectures on 500k.

Once again, thanks for the bandplan initiative

73

David






In a message dated 26/07/2007 20:56:02 GMT Standard Time, =
c.cjo@btinternet.com writes:
  CT
  DISCUSSION POINTS

  Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as =
possible to the inconvenience of as few as possible.

  There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons from =
the 'straight' cw segment of the band.

  There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times =
of likely high cw activity (weekends).

  QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations.

  As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, =
local QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's =
with more distant stations.

  It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate =
'homing in' on weaker stations.

  Is there a  case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal =
controlled transmission ?

  73 G3XIZ SK


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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you for the proposed band plan. Looks very sensible.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I suspect that as 500kHz continues to evolve, use of the different =
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will experience peaks and troughs in their popularity and some expansion =
or=20
contraction of segments may occur to accommodate these changes.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Of course there must always be the provision for a new station on =
the band=20
who may be crystal controlled to transmit wherever they are able to. But =

hopefully, when the interest takes hold, that person will want to build =
a VFO of=20
some sort and will then be able to follow the bandplan.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Personally, I think the trend for transmitting beacons will quickly =
wear=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Once again, thanks for the bandplan initiative</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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would=20
  benefit as many stations as possible to the inconvenience of as few as =

  possible.<BR><BR>There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes =
and=20
  beacons from the 'straight' cw segment of the band.<BR><BR>There may =
be a case=20
  for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times of likely high cw =
activity=20
  (weekends).<BR><BR>QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan=20
  locations.<BR><BR>As most of the stations are congregated in the SE =
corner of=20
  the UK, local QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated =
from QSO's=20
  with more distant stations.<BR><BR>It would be useful to have a QRP =
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Hello Chris / group.
 
Thank you for the proposed band plan. Looks very sensible.
 
I suspect that as 500kHz continues to evolve, use of the different modes  
will experience peaks and troughs in their popularity and some expansion or  
contraction of segments may occur to accommodate these changes.
 
Of course there must always be the provision for a new station on the band  
who may be crystal controlled to transmit wherever they are able to. But  
hopefully, when the interest takes hold, that person will want to build a VFO of  
some sort and will then be able to follow the bandplan.
 
Personally, I think the trend for transmitting beacons will quickly wear  
off. Equally I feel it would only take a couple of long distance QSOs using  QRSS 
for that to become very popular albeit for a short time. Nevertheless some  
fairly consistent presence on the band does provide a signal  to listen to and 
encourage people to join in. Perhaps a reduction in  the 'beacon segment' and 
expansion of the QRSS segment may be beneficial.
 
Looking to the future, if our access to the band is extended beyond 03/08,  
then it may be nice to have beacons better organised.  It is nice to know  when 
propagation is favourable but there is little point having lots of signals  
from the same general geographic location. I know these days locking a beacon 
to  a time signal (MSF or GPS) is fairly straightforward and perhaps a small 
network  on a single frequency could be a long term objective. For example.  4  
stations on 1 frequency but  located in the 4 corners of the UK.. It would  be 
very efficient on spectrum and have less potential for desensing  locally.
 
Perhaps all this could be discussed at the HF convention where I'm sure  
there will be a couple of lectures on 500k.
 
Once again, thanks for the bandplan initiative
 
73
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
 
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c.cjo@btinternet.com writes:

CT
DISCUSSION POINTS

Obviously an ideal band plan would  benefit as many stations as possible to 
the inconvenience of as few as  possible.

There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and  beacons from the 
'straight' cw segment of the band.

There may be a case  for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times of 
likely high cw activity  (weekends).

QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan  locations.

As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of  the UK, local 
QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's  with more 
distant stations.

It would be useful to have a QRP calling  frequency to facilitate 'homing in' 
on weaker stations.

Is there  a  case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal controlled  
transmission ?

73 G3XIZ SK







   

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Yes, this works for me. Thanks for taking the initiative. 73, Alan.

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>DISCUSSION POINTS
>
>Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as possible
>to the inconvenience of as few as possible.
>
>There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons
>from the 'straight' cw segment of the band.
>
>There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times
>of likely high cw activity (weekends).
>
>QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations.
>
>As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, local
>QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's with
>more distant stations.
>
>It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate 'homing i=
n'
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>
>Is there a=A0 case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal controlled
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>73 G3XIZ SK
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DISCUSSION POINTS

Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as possible to the inconvenience of as few as possible.

There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons from the 'straight' cw segment of the band.

There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times of likely high cw activity (weekends).

QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations.

As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, local QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's with more distant stations.

It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate 'homing in' on weaker stations.

Is there a  case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal controlled transmission ?

73 G3XIZ SK

       
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To day there are beacons spread across the 500 khz band, some normal CW
speed and others vy slow QRS 3 and slower this is not the way to co-exist,
one mode interfering with the other, especially beacons operators who are
not listening and hampering CW QSO ACTY.
Some sort of system is required. My suggestion to OFCOM would be to make the
band CW only like it has been in the past when used by the Marine service,
then consider other modes after a year or so.
The band is similar in so many ways to 160 metres, where CW is the
predominant mode and SSB permitted because of the wider bandwidth, but the
band is used in a sensible way with CW at the bottom end and SSB further up
the band.
Because the EA stn is listening for daytime propagation I was interested in
putting on a beacon at normal CW speed 8 WPM but do not want to cause QRM
with the present lack of a SYSTEM. I would suggest the top end of 500 might
be the most appropriate area. 503.5 - 504 khz.
G3KEV



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Mea culpa! Sorry, Chris.

John

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On 28/07/2007 at 09:26 Chris Trayner wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>
>Talking about the Rugby Loran close-down, John Rabson said:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John RABSON [mailto:john.rabson@wanadoo.fr]
>Sent: Mon 2007-06-04 22:07
>
>May I ask people to measure the Loran level on 87kHz USB before, during
>and after the move?
>-------------
>
>and quoted an earlier email dated 01/06/2007:
>
>>It also states that the Rugby "trial service" will cease at the end of
>>July,
>>presumably to allow time to move the equipment up to Cumbria.
>>The press release is here <http://www.wireless.org.uk/loranpress.htm>.
>
>In fact the press release says BY the end of July, not AT it. A note on
>wireless.org, dated July 10, says that it has now closed.
>Having gone to some effort to make measurements by the by-the-end
>deadline, I was rather disappointed to find that I am a fortnight too=
 late.
>Some people regard academics as pedants for paying careful attention to
>wording, but it does sometimes matter.
>
>Anyway, if anyone is interested I've re-activated my online Loran monitor.
>Its results should be taken with a large pinch of salt until I've had time
>to characterise the aerial properly. It will also probably be off the air
>for long periods, but I'll try to get it working properly well before the
>October turn-on at Anthorn. It's at
>http://www.aoyw03.dsl.pipex.com/creg/loran-monitor/loran-monitor.html
>
>73,
>Chris Trayner G4OKW
>
>-----------------------------
>Dr Chris Trayner
>School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering,
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>Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom
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Hi all,

Rog, I=B4ll be listening today between 16 and 19 UTC, more or less.

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  Tks Jose - email you direct.
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  Hello all,

  Tomorrow afternoon, from 16:00 UTC onwards, I=B4ll be in a quiet =
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Im clear on just about anything from 136-137.7! Loran lines arent a problem=
 as my rx noise temp doesnt ever get that low here and I dont have any or v=
ery little smpsu/dimmer noise, just Thor! Even Thor aint that bad this morn=
ing.
=20
136.316 or 320 is good for me. I can run multiple windows to Eu/USA as I ha=
ve a couple of receivers/sound cards so its not  a problem.
=20
Signals are up a couple of dBs this pre dawn here with reasonable sigs from=
 dcf39, ankara and budapest.=20
Fire away at what ever works chaps, and let me know the QRG.
Laurence


Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:39:35 -0700From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 againHi Laurence,There is som=
e doubt about 137.699 as a suitable frequency for West/East beacon, see rec=
ent mail from Harmut.136.316 or 136.320 have been suggested as alternatives=
. Are either of these clear for you, or can you suggest a suitable freq for=
 our attempts. Will not transmit until a suitable freq decided on.73 Laurie=
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<body>Im clear on just about anything from 136-137.7! Loran lines arent a p=
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s morning.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
136.316 or 320 is good for me. I can run multiple windows to Eu/USA as I ha=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Signals are up a couple of dBs this pre dawn&nbsp;here with&nbsp;reasonable=
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Fire away at what ever works chaps, and let me know the QRG.<BR>
<BR>Laurence<BR><BR><BR>
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en suggested as alternatives. Are either of these clear for you, or can you=
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G0MRF putting a very solid 579 into Canterbury just now at 2030 on 
502.0. QRN low again tonight. His pal G0PZA, Garo, is on he key.
-- 

Cheers,

Alan G3XAQ
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Dave, Tx was running all night - still on.
Rog.
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On 25 Jul 2007 at 20:34, Alan Ibbetson wrote:

> Just worked Dave G3YMC for the first time. He is CQing near 502.16. As
> usual I am xtal controlled on 502.0. Dave was 439 with me on my 15m
> high inverted-L, listening on an FT1000MP Mk5 with 60Hz bandwidth.
> Dave gave me 579.
>=20
> I've not been able to hear Dave before and it's still broad daylight
> here at 1930Z. QRN is very low. --=20
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Alan G3XAQ

Thanks for the QSO Alan - at the moment I think you are about my best=20
'DX'.... At least the recent improvements I have made to the antenna=20
and tx seem to have bourne fruit, I can now have quite reasonable=20
QSOs and the logbook is beginning to fill up! I listened also to your=20
QSO with G3YVF, first time I have heard him and he is now quite a=20
nice signal (though you are slightly stronger).

I have added a bit more to my website with a page detailing impedance=20
measurements on 500k, with a modified version of Peter G3LDO's 3M=20
bridge and software. I need to add a bit more to complete it,=20
including my own measurements, but it is almost all there.

I don't hear the GW stations at the moment, guess they have closed=20
down - and can't hear Finbar either but he is right under 'MRF. Heard=20
Tom G3OLB testing briefly around 501.9 earlier with a good signal.

73 Dave G3YMC

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On 25 Jul 2007 at 22:00, Tom Boucher wrote:

> I was just copying you during your QSO with Alan - you were a little
> higher than him in frequency - also your CQ afterwards. look forward
> to a QSO.

Thanks Tom. I think Alan is crystal controlled and he had answered my 
CQ, I had not renetted on to him. Maybe with this surge in activity I 
should have done to save space!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Dave

I was just copying you during your QSO with Alan - you were a little higher 
than him in frequency - also your CQ afterwards.
look forward to a QSO.

73
Tom G3OLB

> Thanks for the QSO Alan - at the moment I think you are about my best
> 'DX'.... At least the recent improvements I have made to the antenna
> and tx seem to have bourne fruit, I can now have quite reasonable
> QSOs and the logbook is beginning to fill up! I listened also to your
> QSO with G3YVF, first time I have heard him and he is now quite a
> nice signal (though you are slightly stronger).
>
> I have added a bit more to my website with a page detailing impedance
> measurements on 500k, with a modified version of Peter G3LDO's 3M
> bridge and software. I need to add a bit more to complete it,
> including my own measurements, but it is almost all there.
>
> I don't hear the GW stations at the moment, guess they have closed
> down - and can't hear Finbar either but he is right under 'MRF. Heard
> Tom G3OLB testing briefly around 501.9 earlier with a good signal.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
> 



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On 25 Jul 2007 at 20:34, Alan Ibbetson wrote:

> Just worked Dave G3YMC for the first time. He is CQing near 502.16. As
> usual I am xtal controlled on 502.0. Dave was 439 with me on my 15m
> high inverted-L, listening on an FT1000MP Mk5 with 60Hz bandwidth.
> Dave gave me 579.
> 
> I've not been able to hear Dave before and it's still broad daylight
> here at 1930Z. QRN is very low. -- 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan G3XAQ

Thanks for the QSO Alan - at the moment I think you are about my best 
'DX'.... At least the recent improvements I have made to the antenna 
and tx seem to have bourne fruit, I can now have quite reasonable 
QSOs and the logbook is beginning to fill up! I listened also to your 
QSO with G3YVF, first time I have heard him and he is now quite a 
nice signal (though you are slightly stronger).

I have added a bit more to my website with a page detailing impedance 
measurements on 500k, with a modified version of Peter G3LDO's 3M 
bridge and software. I need to add a bit more to complete it, 
including my own measurements, but it is almost all there.

I don't hear the GW stations at the moment, guess they have closed 
down - and can't hear Finbar either but he is right under 'MRF. Heard 
Tom G3OLB testing briefly around 501.9 earlier with a good signal.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Just worked Dave G3YMC for the first time. He is CQing near 502.16. As 
usual I am xtal controlled on 502.0. Dave was 439 with me on my 15m high 
inverted-L, listening on an FT1000MP Mk5 with 60Hz bandwidth. Dave gave 
me 579.

I've not been able to hear Dave before and it's still broad daylight 
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Hi all,

I have put upp an other transmitter on 505,100 kHz mode QRSS 3
EMRP is around 1 W

Best regards es 73 de Gus SM6BHZ JO57WQ


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Gm LF.

much QRN this morning on 137KHz in JO51TQ.
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Hmmm "QOA" ? Something to do with spark-gaps, perhaps?

How about "QOT"?

73, DAve G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Johan H. Bodin
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Subject: LF: Time to learn a new Q code


It is fun to see how much interest and activity the advent of
500 kHz has stirred up! Maybe it is time to brush the dust off
the Q code "QOA" which has never been used on ham bands before :-)

73
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Paul, we put the page up at=20

http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/ofcom_501kHz_%20srp.htm

to help with the applications.  RSGB assists Ofcom with the approval =
process
and what we are looking for is an indication of how one is going to =
control
the transmit frequency and ERP within the NoV conditions.  =
Unfortunately,
the standard SRP form that Ofcom uses is slightly misleading as it is =
really
a form that was designed for other purposes, such as high ERP systems =
that
might cause RFI. =20

Normally, applications can be turned around in less than 2 weeks - I =
think
Martyn's application may have been delayed because I was on holiday, =
thus
was waiting for my input.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager
g3wkl@btinternet.com

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
Martyn Kinder
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I have just got mine back.

I detailed all the ERP calculations.
I provided a plan of the house showing the aerial and cap wires. They =
want
to know how you will maintain frequency stability (XTAL control and =
measured
against GPS locked counter sufficed)and also ERP measurements (Measure
aerial current suffices) Took just over 2 weeks

GL

Martyn
=3D=3D

Martyn Kinder LRPS G0CZD

http://www.czd.org.uk
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-----Original Message-----
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=20
All

I am just about to complete a NOV for 500 KHz, any help or guidance =
would be
greatly appreciated.

=20

TX just about built, thinking about an antenna at the moment! =20

=20

Regards & 73

=20

Paul - G1DVA

=20


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I have just got mine back.

I detailed all the ERP calculations.
I provided a plan of the house showing the aerial and cap wires.
They want to know how you will maintain frequency stability (XTAL =
control and measured against GPS locked counter sufficed)and also ERP =
measurements (Measure aerial current suffices) Took just over 2 weeks

GL

Martyn
=3D=3D

Martyn Kinder LRPS G0CZD

http://www.czd.org.uk
P  Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this =
email?

There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand Binary =
and those who don't...



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 2007-07-23 09:47
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Subject: LF: 500Khz Nov
=20
All

I am just about to complete a NOV for 500 KHz, any help or guidance =
would be
greatly appreciated.

=20

TX just about built, thinking about an antenna at the moment! =20

=20

Regards & 73

=20

Paul - G1DVA

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Hello Jean-Pierre.

Thank you for the nice report and screenshot!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor S.E. England.

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Woppsss the capture !

Jean-Pierre M�r� a �crit :
> Hello !
> good copy : G3WCB now !
> 73 qro J-P f1afj
>

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Woppsss the capture !

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> Hello !
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Hello !
good copy : G3WCB now !
73 qro J-P f1afj

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Tks Colin - FB.
Sri, was horizontal then - will try harder!
What did you think of the rec?  Just caught you & Rx not quite =
optimised.
Understand abt the BC Rx problem.
73, Rog.

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Roger UEP,

A good signal tonight 2215z, peaking 569. Get that key out tomorrow!!

73

Colin G3VTT
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    I had a visit today by a Lancaster Bomber that flew a circuit around my
antenna mast and field then turned S/E and disappeared. I wonder if he had a
Signaller/AEO on board with an 1154/1155 or the older 1092 HF rig, we could
have had a QSO.
This was early afternoon. Did anyone else have a visit today.
73 De Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough/io94sh



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Tks Jose.
Rog.
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Hello all,

SM6BHZ, on 505100, and DI2BE, on 505120 audible here their QRSS3 =
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Audible  CW beacon of GW3UEP as well, on 501500.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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 From Peter Dodd, G3LDO.

I have been rather slow taking up the 500kHz allocation. The reason for 
this is that the antenna mast is being used for other antenna projects 
associated with the Communications Handbook antenna chapters and 
RadCom's Antenna column.
The antenna on the mast at the moment is a multiband quad. In the last 
couple of days I have arranged the feeder of the quad to be routed via 
the old 73/136kHz transmitting shed. This has enabled me to resonate and 
match the quad feeder/antenna against ground. This makes for a low 
efficiency antenna on 500kHz (approximately -20dB) but as the erp 
allocation is so low this isn't an issue.

Last night I received SM6BHZ's beacon, quite audible on CW.
G3VTT's CQ was over S7 on the meter of the FT-990 this morning.

I have got an NOV but as yet have to build a transmitter when time allows.

Peter, G3LDO
>  
> The QRN is very low today I'm QSX and calling CQ on 502 at 0640z
>  
> G3VTT 



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Close Dave - poor take-off to the East - Ray/PDN can hear Alan/xaq when =
no trace here.
Rog.
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On 25 Jul 2007 at 12:31, Gw3UEP wrote:

> Dave, sri; ~10mls south of New Quay.

OK, taking that as Ffostrasol that is IO72TC or 265km from me=20
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On 25 Jul 2007 at 12:31, Gw3UEP wrote:

> Dave, sri; ~10mls south of New Quay.

OK, taking that as Ffostrasol that is IO72TC or 265km from me 
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Dave, sri; ~10mls south of New Quay.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


I am still copying Roger GW3UEP in the middle of the day. Find=20
attached a short .mp3 recording made at 1030z (hopefully small enough=20
to go through the reflector. I have put a slightly longer version=20
along with my other recordings at http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/
This was using my 200Hz filter in the K2 and with its KAF2 audio=20
filter to reduce the audio bandwidth - just hovering around the noise=20
most of the time but clearly copyable.

Not sure of your QTH Roger and you don't appear in qrz.com. A locator=20
would be useful so I can work out the distance between you and=20
Bracknell (IO91PJ).

I am not really that convinced that there is a daytime cliff edge=20
effect on 500kHz. I can certainly copy quite a few stations at=20
considerable distance and consistently. 'HXO is still easy copy up=20
the band though somewhat weaker than earlier. Who I don't copy well=20
at the moment is Finbar and although I copy DI2BE well at night I=20
have not heard SM6BHZ for a while - it may be that he is in permanent=20
daylight this time of year.

73 Dave G3YMC


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<BR>attached a short .mp3 recording made at 1030z (hopefully small =
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Excellent Dave - tks.
Yes, just in the noise - no chance with previous qrp pwr.
73, Rog.

P.S. Dial-up here so only connect occasionally.
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Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


I am still copying Roger GW3UEP in the middle of the day. Find=20
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This was using my 200Hz filter in the K2 and with its KAF2 audio=20
filter to reduce the audio bandwidth - just hovering around the noise=20
most of the time but clearly copyable.

Not sure of your QTH Roger and you don't appear in qrz.com. A locator=20
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Bracknell (IO91PJ).

I am not really that convinced that there is a daytime cliff edge=20
effect on 500kHz. I can certainly copy quite a few stations at=20
considerable distance and consistently. 'HXO is still easy copy up=20
the band though somewhat weaker than earlier. Who I don't copy well=20
at the moment is Finbar and although I copy DI2BE well at night I=20
have not heard SM6BHZ for a while - it may be that he is in permanent=20
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73 Dave G3YMC


http://www.davesergeant.com


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I am still copying Roger GW3UEP in the middle of the day. Find 
attached a short .mp3 recording made at 1030z (hopefully small enough 
to go through the reflector. I have put a slightly longer version 
along with my other recordings at http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/
This was using my 200Hz filter in the K2 and with its KAF2 audio 
filter to reduce the audio bandwidth - just hovering around the noise 
most of the time but clearly copyable.

Not sure of your QTH Roger and you don't appear in qrz.com. A locator 
would be useful so I can work out the distance between you and 
Bracknell (IO91PJ).

I am not really that convinced that there is a daytime cliff edge 
effect on 500kHz. I can certainly copy quite a few stations at 
considerable distance and consistently. 'HXO is still easy copy up 
the band though somewhat weaker than earlier. Who I don't copy well 
at the moment is Finbar and although I copy DI2BE well at night I 
have not heard SM6BHZ for a while - it may be that he is in permanent 
daylight this time of year.

73 Dave G3YMC


http://www.davesergeant.com


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Tks Dave.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
> fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
> setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible=20
> to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
> or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and=20
Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not=20
much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

505.15   DI2BE    569
503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
503.75   G0MRF      599
503.65   G4WGT     579
503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
501.5     GW3UEP   329

(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when=20
tuning CW by ear...).

I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be =
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Dave, LF,

GW4HXO is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz
bandwidth (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background
noise level is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.
(About 50 micro-volts at the RX terminals)

I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big coil which is
link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud from nearby
wiring. A loop would be much quieter.

I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens to the signal levels
around dawn.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
> fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
> setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible
> to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
> or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and
Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not
much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

505.15   DI2BE    569
503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
503.75   G0MRF      599
503.65   G4WGT     579
503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
501.5     GW3UEP   329

(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when
tuning CW by ear...).

I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com






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On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
> fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
> setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible 
> to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
> or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and 
Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not 
much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

505.15   DI2BE    569
503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
503.75   G0MRF      599
503.65   G4WGT     579
503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
501.5     GW3UEP   329

(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when 
tuning CW by ear...).

I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:58:59 +0100
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Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing fragments
of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting, and the
callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible  to insert a couple of
seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign, or alternatively QRS to 5 or
6 WPM?

If it is Mike - he's a bit stronger than Rog!

Screenshot attached. (The two long dashes are artifacts from G0MRF's PSK31
beacon transmission nearby.)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 24 July 2007 20:25
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  We're both on - Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave G3WCB
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:00 PM
  Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  Hello Mike, LF,

  I've just got back from the salt-mine. Is your beacon running? If so, I'll
  try and watch it for a few hours.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michael Probert
  Sent: 24 July 2007 10:26
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
  Hope that helps
  73
  Mike GW4HXO
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not
  transmitting, but was very easy copy on Sunday - 'MRF is there 589 at
  the moment.

  73 Dave G3YMC

  http://www.davesergeant.com



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class=3D978544619-24072007>Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, =
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setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be =
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insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign, or=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D978544619-24072007>If it=20
is Mike - he's a bit stronger than Rog!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D978544619-24072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D978544619-24072007>Screenshot attached. (The two long dashes are =
artifacts=20
from G0MRF's PSK31 beacon transmission nearby.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D978544619-24072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July 2007 20:25<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [ 500]; Two =
GW's=20
  Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>We're both on - Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:00 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... =
GW4HXO</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Mike, LF,<BR><BR>I've just got back from the =
salt-mine.=20
  Is your beacon running? If so, I'll<BR>try and watch it for a few=20
  hours.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<BR><BR>-----Original =
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acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
  Behalf Of Michael Probert<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 10:26<BR>To: <A=20
  =
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  RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...<BR><BR><BR>Beacon on 503.8 now @ =
10.25=20
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  =
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-----------<BR>Can't=20
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easy=20
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Hello Mike, LF,

I've just got back from the salt-mine. Is your beacon running? If so, I'll
try and watch it for a few hours.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
Hope that helps
73
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Hi Laurence thanks for that. Yes Steve Dove's plots of DCF39 and Lakihegy
show very good signal levels overnight and the fding is shallower as
predicted. The backgound X-ray flux is "bumping along the bottom" on the
NOAA GEOS plot at the limit of resolution, and the Kp index this morning is
zero. Dst has been rising steadily and even the Colorado estimate is set to
pass into positive territory today, the first time that has happened for a
while. The "signs" are certainly very good....all we need are stations !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> This morning I recorded the highest signal and signal/noise ratios from
> dcf39 et al. Signals on the richter scale are over S9 for some hours. Qrn
> levels are also low
>
> Ankara was back on too.
>
> Off to work
>
> Laurence 9V1 LF
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Laurence,
Fixed ant. so will transmit again tonight
start 20:00utc freq 137.699. QRSS60
73 Laurie

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Laurence,<br>Fixed ant. so will transmit again tonight<br>start 20:00utc freq 137.699. QRSS60<br>73 Laurie<br>

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John,
Tks for Rx info & interesting obs on signal pattern.
Rog.
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Yes Rog - recorded from headphone socket of AR7030 with fairly wide=20
1.3kHz IF filter. I haven't a narrow IF filter in that RX, but an=20
outboard 2 stage 100Hz active filter has been built recently. Didn't=20
need to use it last night on your signals as you can tell.

I have screen grabs stored for each 5 minutes for the last several days=20
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the other continuous beacons that I see) varies. You are always a nice=20
signal at night but disappear quickly as daybreak approaches, with=20
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Cheers,

John


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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Gw3UEP wrote:

> Excellent recording John - quiet background & bw sounds fairly wide?
> Sig sounds like side-tone with low-level static mixed-in!
> Yes, l/fwd to qso.
> Mni tks,
> 
> Rog.
> 


Yes Rog - recorded from headphone socket of AR7030 with fairly wide 
1.3kHz IF filter. I haven't a narrow IF filter in that RX, but an 
outboard 2 stage 100Hz active filter has been built recently. Didn't 
need to use it last night on your signals as you can tell.

I have screen grabs stored for each 5 minutes for the last several days 
that I'm going to analyze to to see how the path between us (and any of 
the other continuous beacons that I see) varies. You are always a nice 
signal at night but disappear quickly as daybreak approaches, with 
nothing visible during the day.

I don't want to wish the summer away, but after the equinox 500kHz will 
get a lot more user friendly!

Cheers,

John



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Excellent recording John - quiet background & bw sounds fairly wide?
Sig sounds like side-tone with low-level static mixed-in!
Yes, l/fwd to qso.
Mni tks,

Rog.

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Hi Rog,

Just retrieved the MP3 of your beacon as heard up here, IP90gg

Greenmeadow, Clousta, Shetland ZE2 9LX (you'll be able to find it on
Streetmap.co.uk with all that info!

Nice sigs peaking S4 again tonight. A QSO when I've got the TX repaired?

Cheers,

John, GM4SLV
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Tks John - vy interesting.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John GM4SLV=20
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz tonight


Hi Rog, LF

I thought I'd sent a report last night of your beacon but not sure I did =

now!

Anyway, was hearing you RST339 up until bed time at 0030 BST. I left my=20
screengrabber running all night and looking back at the captures around=20
0200-0300 UTC I see a very strong trace from GI4DPE and also from your=20
beacon. I will check the pictures again for accurate times when I get=20
home (I'm at work now).=20

It looks like I need proper darkness up here for the really difficult=20
(ie not straight sea path) long haul stuff, so in another month or 2=20
things should start getting better. At this latitude night is still a=20
bit late and of short duration at the moment.

Nice to see/hear so many signals last night.

John GM4SLV, Shetland


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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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Hi Rog, LF

I thought I'd sent a report last night of your beacon but not sure I did 
now!

Anyway, was hearing you RST339 up until bed time at 0030 BST. I left my 
screengrabber running all night and looking back at the captures around 
0200-0300 UTC I see a very strong trace from GI4DPE and also from your 
beacon. I will check the pictures again for accurate times when I get 
home (I'm at work now). 

It looks like I need proper darkness up here for the really difficult 
(ie not straight sea path) long haul stuff, so in another month or 2 
things should start getting better. At this latitude night is still a 
bit late and of short duration at the moment.

Nice to see/hear so many signals last night.

John GM4SLV, Shetland



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Thanks Jose & All,

HXO & DPE are bench-mark sigs & blast in here.
Unlike the HXO "coast-stn" qth, I have trees & close-in hills -  best =
take-off NW [8mls to coast] & South.
[no more excuses!]
Certainly the 20W pwr level is generating more feedback & interest.

1W ERP would be VFB.

Will be looking for qso's today.
73, Rog.

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Hello all,

Audible CW signals from GW4HXO, 10 dB signal to noise with 160Hz IF =
filter. Small frequency drift.
Almost same signal level from GI4DPE, who was in QSO with G0NBD.
Audible GW3UEP as well, on 501515, but lower level.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>HXO &amp; DPE are bench-mark sigs =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Unlike the HXO "coast-stn" qth, I have =
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South.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>[no more excuses!]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Certainly the 20W pwr level is =
generating more=20
feedback &amp; interest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>1W ERP would be VFB.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Will be looking for qso's =
today.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audible CW signals from GW4HXO, 10 dB =
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Dear Wolf, LF Group,

M0BMU is transmitting a QRSS3 + CW identifier beacon signal at 503.90kHz at
the moment. G0MRF's CW/PSK31/QRSS beacon is also on 503.7kHz at the moment.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello Lubomir,

The SDR-IQ (and SDR-14) support is implemented since V2.7 b19, which is 
available on my website (even though it's still under "heavy 
development", since I soon need those functions in a radio astronomy 
project - but that's another story). So I upload it quite frequently 
without changing the version number. The latest version is here:
http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/spectra1.html

The only "external" software defined radios which do *not* require a 
soundcard for reception are SDR-IQ and SDR-14 (by RFSPACE), it has 
nothing to do with SDradio. The reason for the direct support of SDR-IQ 
was that I needed to **eliminate** the soundcard as "input source" for 
the radio astronomy application, because of the heavy "baseband QRM" at 
the telescope's site which affects the soundcard, but not the SDR-IQ 
because it digitizes the RF signal directly (with an A/D converter 
running at 66.6 MSamples/second) before the downconversion.

Best regards,
  Wolf .

Lubom�r Bobal�k schrieb:
> Hello Wolf!
> It is very interesting, you have new version of Spectrum Lab with
> possibility directly connection on SDRadio. Is it any chance to get this
> new program? I use SpectrumLab V2.6 b 3 now. 
> The capture has been taken by my home made SDRadio + pragram Winrad +
> Spectrum Lab. I use two sound cards in my PC.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang
> B�scher
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:12 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500: DI2BE frequency and ERP at the moment ?
>
> Hello Geri,
>
> Thanks for the info. Yes, DI2BO positively identified here, though not 
> as strong as DI2BE on 505.12 and SM6BHZ on 505.1 . DI2AG on 505.09 kHz 
> also visible at times, but with deep QSB. All seen around 19:00 UTC.
> Receiver : Spectrum Lab, directly connected to an SDR-IQ, running at 196
>
> kHz sampling rate.
> Antenna : Shortwave attic dipole, not matched. Works better than an 
> active antenna on the workbench, because the PC's power supply causes a 
> lot of QRM near 500 kHz.
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf DL4YHF .
>
>
>
> Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb:
>   
>> Wolf,
>>
>>   
>> DI2BO in JO52BH is still up and running continously on 505.015 kHz in
>>     
> QRSS3
>   
>> and 6 WPM CW. ERP is 1.7 mW(!)
>>
>> Best 73
>>
>> Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO
>>
>>   
>>     
>
>
> __________ Informace od NOD32 2414 (20070723) __________
>
> Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.
> http://www.nod32.cz
>
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Hello Wolf!
It is very interesting, you have new version of Spectrum Lab with
possibility directly connection on SDRadio. Is it any chance to get this
new program? I use SpectrumLab V2.6 b 3 now.=20
The capture has been taken by my home made SDRadio + pragram Winrad +
Spectrum Lab. I use two sound cards in my PC.

Thanks!

Lubos, OK2BVG

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang
B=FCscher
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:12 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500: DI2BE frequency and ERP at the moment ?

Hello Geri,

Thanks for the info. Yes, DI2BO positively identified here, though not=20
as strong as DI2BE on 505.12 and SM6BHZ on 505.1 . DI2AG on 505.09 kHz=20
also visible at times, but with deep QSB. All seen around 19:00 UTC.
Receiver : Spectrum Lab, directly connected to an SDR-IQ, running at 196

kHz sampling rate.
Antenna : Shortwave attic dipole, not matched. Works better than an=20
active antenna on the workbench, because the PC's power supply causes a=20
lot of QRM near 500 kHz.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb:
> Wolf,
>
>  =20
> DI2BO in JO52BH is still up and running continously on 505.015 kHz in
QRSS3
> and 6 WPM CW. ERP is 1.7 mW(!)
>
> Best 73
>
> Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO
>
>  =20


__________ Informace od NOD32 2414 (20070723) __________

Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.
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Hello Geri,

Thanks for the info. Yes, DI2BO positively identified here, though not 
as strong as DI2BE on 505.12 and SM6BHZ on 505.1 . DI2AG on 505.09 kHz 
also visible at times, but with deep QSB. All seen around 19:00 UTC.
Receiver : Spectrum Lab, directly connected to an SDR-IQ, running at 196 
kHz sampling rate.
Antenna : Shortwave attic dipole, not matched. Works better than an 
active antenna on the workbench, because the PC's power supply causes a 
lot of QRM near 500 kHz.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb:
> Wolf,
>
>   
> DI2BO in JO52BH is still up and running continously on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3
> and 6 WPM CW. ERP is 1.7 mW(!)
>
> Best 73
>
> Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO
>
>   



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Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info. I have looked until about 21:30 UTC, but nothing 
detectable - due to local QRM, but also a lot of QRN (which is still 
much stronger than anything else near 500 kHz).

Caught a few characters from Jim's DFCW transmission.

73,
  Wolf .

Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> Wolf, LF,
>
> I am just about to run my beacon again tonight on 503.600 KHz, RTTY, 
> 23 Hz shift, 45.5 bd, about 50 mW ERP.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Wolf,

> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early evening
> hours ?

DI2BO in JO52BH is still up and running continously on 505.015 kHz in QRSS3
and 6 WPM CW. ERP is 1.7 mW(!)

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfgang B�scher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Greetings all,
>
> I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a reasonable
> antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment.
> At the moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active
> E-field antenna.
> Uwe, if you are monitoring:
> What is the current E(D/M)RP of DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?
>
> I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level
> (in a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals
> from the UK at this QTH.
>
> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early evening
> hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a few
> occasional beeps.
>
> 73,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>



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Dear Wolf,

Now transmitting DFCW on 503.01kHz, give or take a few Hz, with breaks for
listening.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
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> Greetings all,
>
> I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a reasonable
> antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment.
> At the moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active
> E-field antenna.
> Uwe, if you are monitoring:
> What is the current E(D/M)RP of DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?
>
> I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level
> (in a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals
> from the UK at this QTH.
>
> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early evening
> hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a few
> occasional beeps.
>
> 73,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>
>



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Wolf, LF,

I am just about to run my beacon again tonight on 503.600 KHz, RTTY, 23 Hz 
shift, 45.5 bd, about 50 mW ERP.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfgang B�scher" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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Subject: LF: 500: DI2BE frequency and ERP at the moment ?


> Greetings all,
>
> I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a reasonable 
> antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment.
> At the moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active 
> E-field antenna.
> Uwe, if you are monitoring:
> What is the current E(D/M)RP of DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?
>
> I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level (in 
> a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals from 
> the UK at this QTH.
>
> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early evening 
> hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a few 
> occasional beeps.
>
> 73,
> Wolf DL4YHF .
>
> 



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Hi Dave = Tnx fer the nice qso on 136 this  morning.
Dave you were 599 very good signal here using an 80m dipole 
up 12m rx ts690s. My tx is an xtal mixer into a modified 
audio amp at the mo runs abt 20watts (capable of c250W)abt 
200ma into a inv l up 12m, 40m long.
Thank you for persisting wid a 239 signal it was fun!!!
I have stuggled to get power on 136 but i have plans but no 
real time at the moment.

Also thanks Chris for the qso, Dave called just as we 
finished but you must have missed him, I did call you and 
say he was on frequency actually a bit higher i think.

I heard Mal at 5-8/9-9 calling CQ abt 100c/s above you 
during your YXM contact but i was able to notch you to hear 
Mal well. Funny that cos I would not be able to do that on 
500 you have a much stronger presence with me on 500 than 
136?

73 all petefmt IO91UX Nr Hitchin.


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Hi LF,

Nice capture of G4WGT - getting better by the minute at 2215UTC

Also seeing other signals on 501.91, 502 and 501.52, will need to put
cans on and see what I can hear.

Cheers,

John 'SLV

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Hi Johan,

Had to dig out my Post Office "Handbook for Radio Operators" for those Q's 
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> Colin G3VTT wrote:
>> Perhaps we could also introduce ZHN and ZHP into common usage.
>
> Well, I think the T/M/O system is more efficient than ZHN 3/2/1 for
> reporting QRSS beacons. These days there can be many resons for ZHP,
> for example "ZHP hard disk failure" or just "ZHP computer allergy" :-)
>
> One of my favourites is QUPx, which in case of QUP2 and QUP3 means
> "Please indicate your position by black smoke" and "Please indicate
> your position by pyrotechnics", respectively. QUP has the potential
> to become a very useful Q code when communicating with stations
> operating from some kind of FPL (FET Popping Laboratory).
>
> 73
> Johan
>
> 



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Colin G3VTT wrote:
> Perhaps we could also introduce ZHN and ZHP into common usage.

Well, I think the T/M/O system is more efficient than ZHN 3/2/1 for
reporting QRSS beacons. These days there can be many resons for ZHP,
for example "ZHP hard disk failure" or just "ZHP computer allergy" :-)

One of my favourites is QUPx, which in case of QUP2 and QUP3 means
"Please indicate your position by black smoke" and "Please indicate
your position by pyrotechnics", respectively. QUP has the potential
to become a very useful Q code when communicating with stations
operating from some kind of FPL (FET Popping Laboratory).

73
Johan


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In a message dated 24/07/2007 22:55:16 GMT Standard Time,  jh.bodin@telia.com 
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It is  fun to see how much interest and activity the advent of
500 kHz has stirred  up! Maybe it is time to brush the dust off
the Q code "QOA" which has never  been used on ham bands before :-)

73
Johan  SM6LKM




Yes Johan, this is daft. I can hear the two GW beacons and they would be  
workable, just about. Perhaps we could also introduce ZHN and ZHP into common  
usage.
 
I think I'll go QRT now after 40 mins of fruitless CQ's and have a bottle  of 
Adnams beer to QSF!
 
 
73
 
Colin
 
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It is fun to see how much interest and activity the advent of
500 kHz has stirred up! Maybe it is time to brush the dust off
the Q code "QOA" which has never been used on ham bands before :-)

73
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And, last not least, on 501.50 + a few Hz: Not identifyable yet, but at 
least visible on the waterfall.

Nothing seen on 502.2 yet. I have a 60 MByte long audio file 
(I/Q-recording) covering 494...506 kHz, but not enough webspace to 
upload it ;-)

73 + GN,
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Hello LF ,

Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 00:50 => 01:20 , 02:00 => 04:30
WD2XNS 03:00 => 04:00

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Hi, John, LF.

A single-ended PA with one IRF150 should be able to give you 25 watts with
no problem. You only get to blow the FETS up one at a time, as well!

I use a single IRF540 in a modified DF3LP design running at 13.6v, and it
stays quite cool. I jacked up the supply to 15 volts, and briefly got 45
watts into 50 ohms until the FET popped. Like the IRF150, it is rated at
100v, and the rule-of-thumb is keep the supply below one-sixth of the
maximum rating of the device to avoid unpleasant early demise and emission
of "technical smoke"!

I haven't used the IRF150 personally, but from the spec it looks like a
tough old FET with a high current rating. Watch the supply voltage, and it
should be fine.

The basic DF3LP design has been modified with a tapped output transformer to
give stepped power settings, and with the usual 2-section LPF the second
harmonic is about 40 dB down. The third harmonic is not measureable.

Gary G3WGT uses a similar single-ended design. I can send-you a scan
(hand-drawn) of the curcuit if you like.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hello gang,

Thanks for looking for my QRSS last night. Obviously yesterday was not
to be the day!

Had 2 QSOs with Mal 'KEV and a signal report from GM4JYB on Dunnet
Head, so at least some RF is radiating.

I was hoping for a few hours during peak darkness to have try last
night but that was scuppered by my own clumsiness!

My TX uses a VFO running at 8MHz divided by 16. The VFO is stabilized
by a huff/puff circuit and during testing had proved to be rock solid.
I've run QRSS-10 at 15W into test load overnight and the frequency
hasn't varied by 1Hz.

To increase the TX power to that necessary to achieve my ERP target,
which calculation suggests needs 0.7A RF, I fed the PA section with a
variable 0-60V PSU. At 20V I achieved 25W and 0.7A RF. Fine and dandy.

Later in the day I noticed that the VFO was not staying locked when in
TX mode, and once it unlocked it stayed slowly free falling until the
huff/puff circuit was re-set. I found at 10w or so out that it was
stable. I guess there's RF getting in somewhere and upsetting it.

I put in lots of extra decoupling and clamp-on ferrites but to no
avail. The VFO itself is in a screened box of PCB material, but the
huff/puff is open. I'll rebuild the two circuits into one eddystone
box...

During the investigation into the drifting VFO I inadvertantly over
stressed the MOSFETs in the PA (over volts) and turned them into
permanently ON switches.

No spares!!

I was thinking of a redesign anyway, so I'll take this opportunity to
do that. I expect to be back on the air in a day or so.

Jim 'BMU's design uses IRF520/IRF9520 complementary pair to acheive
push pull from a single phase drive. I think I'll go the old way and
use bi-phase drive and a "normal" pair of N-Channel FETs. I have a
ready supply of IRF150 (or BUZ24) which are TO3 cased HEXFETs that we
use at work in 28 volt 20amp SMPSUs. These are fed with 50V DC and
switch regulate to 28V so I guess they should handle the volts/current
to get 25W at 500kHz? Does anyone have any experience of the devices?

Sorry to have appeared and disappeared so rapidly. That'll teach me to
have enough spares for the PA FETs!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV





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Hi Laurence,
There is some doubt about 137.699 as a suitable frequency for West/East
beacon, see recent mail from Harmut.
136.316 or 136.320 have been suggested as alternatives. Are either of these
clear for you, or can you suggest
a suitable freq for our attempts. Will not transmit until a suitable freq
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Hi Laurence,<br>There is some doubt about 137.699 as a suitable frequency for West/East beacon, see recent mail from Harmut.<br>136.316 or 136.320 have been suggested as alternatives. Are either of these clear for you, or can you suggest
<br>a suitable freq for our attempts. Will not transmit until a suitable freq decided on.<br>73 Laurie.<br>

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Roger UEP,
 
A good signal tonight 2215z, peaking 569. Get that key out tomorrow!!
 
73
 
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	for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:31:16 +0200
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.. with 12 Hz audio filter bandwidth. Screenshot attached (taken 21:30 UTC).

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

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Hi All,

Need to make an addition to the list below/

Thanks also to Alan G3NYK for his report direct & helpful comments.

73, Gary.

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> Hi All,
>
> My thanks to all of you who sent a report from my RTTY beacon last night.
>
> John GM4SLV (best distance - 739 Km) sorry to hear about the demise of 
> your Tx.
> Chris G3XIZ
> Mal G3KEV for the report on the zadembti monkey !!!
> Jim M0BMU
> Martin GW3UCJ
> Graham G0NBD who was decoding the beacon text 100pc
>
> My best 500 KHz report so far has been from Hartmut Wolff who captured to 
> his web site my 1 mW QRSS03 beacon a distance of 889 Km.
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
> I think that is quite good considering I cannot erect a 1/4 wave antenna 
> in my small garden !!
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> 



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On 26 Jul 2007 at 8:59, John Andrews wrote:

> Dave Pick wrote:
> > Summer?
> > Is it summer?
> 
> It is, over here. Of course, the ground doesn't "squish" when WE
> walk...

Nor does it here.... don't get too carried away by those pictures on 
the Gogglebox. I have relatives near Evesham and in Worcester, none 
directly affected apart from inconvenience of flooded roads. Quite a 
lot of discussion this morning on another forum from members near 
Oxford, pretty close but none of them flooded themselves. The TV 
crews seem to go hunting for the worst spots to make the best 
pictures!

Was a little wet here last Friday (understatement) but no flooding 
and was dry since. The rain Adrian G4GDR told me about this morning 
has just arrived, I see my SWR has increased as the garden gets 
wetter and reduces the earth loss...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Dave

It's summer only on certain days. We've had a number of days this month =
where the temps didn't make it into the 70's. Today we're headed for the =
high 90's. Very unusual wx throughout this past year.=20

Jay

=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Summer?
  Is it summer?

  Dave 'YXM
  =20
  On 26/07/07, Jay Rusgrove <JRusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:=20

    Nice to see such good copy in the middle of summer!

    Jay W1VD / WD2XNS






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  <DIV>Summer?</DIV>
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Dave Pick wrote:
> Summer?
> Is it summer?

It is, over here. Of course, the ground doesn't "squish" when WE walk...

John A.


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Thanks to Jean-Pierre and Henny for the captures. Period of operation last night was 0150 - 0330.
Nice to see such good copy in the middle of summer!

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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Tnx for report,
ant sloper 10m+20m topload,current 2.8A

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  Good copy this evening...

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Hello all,

Audible CW signals from GW4HXO, 10 dB signal to noise with 160Hz IF =
filter. Small frequency drift.
Almost same signal level from GI4DPE, who was in QSO with G0NBD.
Audible GW3UEP as well, on 501515, but lower level.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audible CW signals from GW4HXO, 10 dB =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Almost same signal level from GI4DPE, =
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'evening all,
 
Its now 2220 local and I am calling CQ on 502.2 until 2300 if anybody  about. 
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Remote F/Strength Monitor.

Bob/LTX,
Tks for measuring my signal-level values/tests with your Soft-Rock dBm =
meter - most useful.

Also, tks for reports from by Mike/hxo, Finbar, Dyson/3drv & =
Paul/mw0pwk/a.

The small 1A PSU now runs even cooler with only 25mA via its series-reg. =
 Residual % of ripple on envelope just detectable on am.
Little change in ac pwr consumption.

CUL, Rog.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Bob/LTX,</FONT></DIV>
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Dave/wcb,
Tks for all info, esp the 6dB comp.
What freq separation would suit?
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:48 PM
Subject: LF: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


Mike, LF.

Good signals from GW4HXO throughout the night, with a marked drop in
strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and reversion to daytime signal =
levels
therafter. The propagation showed the same sort of pattern as GW3UEPs
signals, but Mike seems to be consistently stronger by around 6 dB

Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, and stayed at good =
audible
strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB having a two or three minute
cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a cliff" after 0350utc, but =
a
fairly rapid decrease in signal strength occurred, perhaps as much as 10 =
dB,
but I'm guessing.

Mike's signals have been visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was at
work :-((], then stopped abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.

It would be really interesting to run an overnight comparison between =
GW4HXO
and GW3UEP, but at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of the
band!

I'm also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the =
moment.
Can't make out his call-sign by ear.

Night and day comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


Dave, LF,

GW4HXO is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz
bandwidth (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background
noise level is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.
(About 50 micro-volts at the RX terminals)

I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big coil which is
link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud from nearby
wiring. A loop would be much quieter.

I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens to the signal =
levels
around dawn.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28
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Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
> fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
> setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible
> to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
> or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and
Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not
much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

505.15   DI2BE    569
503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
503.75   G0MRF      599
503.65   G4WGT     579
503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
501.5     GW3UEP   329

(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when
tuning CW by ear...).

I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

73 Dave G3YMC

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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for all info, esp the 6dB =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>What freq separation would =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Mike, LF.<BR><BR>Good signals from GW4HXO throughout the =
night,=20
with a marked drop in<BR>strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and =
reversion to=20
daytime signal levels<BR>therafter. The propagation showed the same sort =
of=20
pattern as GW3UEPs<BR>signals, but Mike seems to be consistently =
stronger by=20
around 6 dB<BR><BR>Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, and =
stayed=20
at good audible<BR>strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB having a =
two or=20
three minute<BR>cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a cliff" =
after=20
0350utc, but a<BR>fairly rapid decrease in signal strength occurred, =
perhaps as=20
much as 10 dB,<BR>but I'm guessing.<BR><BR>Mike's signals have been =
visible all=20
morning [couldn't listen - I was at<BR>work :-((], then stopped abruptly =
at=20
about 1410 utc this afternoon.<BR><BR>It would be really interesting to =
run an=20
overnight comparison between GW4HXO<BR>and GW3UEP, but at the moment, =
they're=20
beaconing at opposite ends of the<BR>band!<BR><BR>I'm also seeing what I =
assume=20
to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the moment.<BR>Can't make out his =
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by ear.<BR><BR>Night and day comparison screenshots of GW4HXO=20
attached.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
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</A><BR>Subject:=20
RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>Dave, =
LF,<BR><BR>GW4HXO is=20
quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz<BR>bandwidth =
(Wierd=20
SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background<BR>noise level is =
sitting=20
at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.<BR>(About 50 micro-volts =
at the=20
RX terminals)<BR><BR>I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big =
coil=20
which is<BR>link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud =
from=20
nearby<BR>wiring. A loop would be much quieter.<BR><BR>I'll leave ARGO =
running=20
overnight to see what happens to the signal levels<BR>around =
dawn.<BR><BR>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
Behalf Of Dave Sergeant<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28<BR>To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>On 24 Jul 2007 at =
20:58,=20
Dave G3WCB wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Well.......I'm seeing something on =
503.812, and I=20
might be hearing<BR>&gt; fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on =
the=20
24Hz bandwidth<BR>&gt; setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- =
Would it=20
be possible<BR>&gt; to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after =
each=20
call-sign,<BR>&gt; or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?<BR><BR>Still =
amazed at=20
the difference in reception between Bracknell and<BR>Iver (the whole of =
about 10=20
miles...). Currently hearing (and not<BR>much different from midday =
here) with=20
my two ears.....<BR><BR>505.15&nbsp;&nbsp; DI2BE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
569<BR>503.8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GW4HXO&nbsp;&nbsp; 559, very =
consistent all=20
day<BR>503.75&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
599<BR>503.65&nbsp;&nbsp; G4WGT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
579<BR>503.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GI4PDE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; traces, =
was solid=20
earlier<BR>502.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3XIZ in QSO with =
G3UNT&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
both 599<BR>501.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GW3UEP&nbsp;&nbsp; =
329<BR><BR>(All=20
frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy =
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ear...).<BR><BR>I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my =
400Hz=20
filter<BR><BR>A couple of CQs from here earlier went =
unanswered...<BR><BR>73=20
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John GM4SLV wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:23:08 EDT
> G3vtt@aol.com wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi John,
>>  
>> I've been calling CQ for an hour on 502.07 Any chance of you taking
>> a  listen right now?
>>  
>> 73
>>  
>> Colin G3VTT
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>     
>
> Now hearing G3VTT and GI4DPE in QSO
>
> Colin RST 329
> Finbar RST 449
>
> Lots of signals tonight!
>
> John
>
>   
Report from Dunnet Head
I could hear Finbar gi4dpe RST 529
No copy on Colin g3vtt

Cheers Brian gm4jyb IO88hp


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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:23:08 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Hi John,
>  
> I've been calling CQ for an hour on 502.07 Any chance of you taking
> a  listen right now?
>  
> 73
>  
> Colin G3VTT
> 
> 
> 
>    

Now hearing G3VTT and GI4DPE in QSO

Colin RST 329
Finbar RST 449

Lots of signals tonight!

John



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Hi All,

My thanks to all of you who sent a report from my RTTY beacon last night.

John GM4SLV (best distance - 739 Km) sorry to hear about the demise of your 
Tx.
Chris G3XIZ
Mal G3KEV for the report on the zadembti monkey !!!
Jim M0BMU
Martin GW3UCJ
Graham G0NBD who was decoding the beacon text 100pc

My best 500 KHz report so far has been from Hartmut Wolff who captured to 
his web site my 1 mW QRSS03 beacon a distance of 889 Km.

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

I think that is quite good considering I cannot erect a 1/4 wave antenna in 
my small garden !!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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.. and getting stronger by the minute now !
The frequency seems to drift less now (I first suspected I saw a 
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Sorry.
 
Should have obviously addressed my reply to Harmut
 
Thank you for the captures
 
73
 
David G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 26/07/2007 16:21:57 GMT Standard Time, h-wolff@gmx.de  
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Captures  can be seen  here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
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137 kHz:
Due to my local noise problem I had only poor copy of WD2XES and
captured only a faint trace of WD2XNS.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

500 kHz:
I uploaded some QRSS and CW captures to my website. Containing signals
of G3XIZ (QRSS3 and CW), G0MRF, GW3UEP and GI4DPE. I changed the speed
of my CW screen for a better readability of the signals.

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Hello LF ,

Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 01:30 => 04:30
WD2XNS 01:50 => 03:30

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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LF group,

Hearing GW4HXO in Shetland this evening, can copy by ear, just, under
the crashes!

IP90gg

Quite some distance.

Cheers,

John

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In a message dated 22/07/2007 20:46:34 Greenwich Standard Time,  
mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com writes:

Many thanks for that  Peter 
Best  regards 
Mike  GW4HXO. 
 
  
____________________________________
 
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Solid copy in  Plymouth IO70WJ. Signal peaking about 10dB above local noise 
and no  significant qsb.
 

 
73 Peter,  G3JFS



Mike,
 
Sri I can't transmit at present.  I hope to be back in the next  couple of 
weeks but am too busy with other things at the moment.
 
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Many thanks for that Peter

 

Best regards

 

Mike GW4HXO.

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of ColePe@aol.com
Sent: 22 July 2007 21:23
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Solid copy in Plymouth IO70WJ. Signal peaking about 10dB above local noise
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Hi LF,

Thanks to Jim M0BMU & Dave G3YMC for reports.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dear Gary, LF Group,
> 
> hearing G4WGT at RST 339 level here at the moment on about 503.6kHz.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
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Alan, Sri no trace when I listened/cld.

BTW, HXO/DPE within ~30c/s of each other.

One day!

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This morning I recorded the highest signal and signal/noise ratios from 
dcf39 et al. Signals on the richter scale are over S9 for some hours. Qrn 
levels are also low

Ankara was back on too.

Off to work

Laurence 9V1 LF

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137 kHz:
Good copy of WD2XES on 137.779 and poor copy of WD2XNS on 137.781 kHz.
Still high local noise level.

Captures can be seen here:
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500 kHz:
Only brief copy of GW3UEP and GI4DPE last night. Monitored only until
23:53 because my computer crashed.

Captures can be seen here:
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best 73s
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Just captured MRF on 503.7 kHz. Is this still 2.5 mW ERP?

Capture can be seen here:
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Hartmut,

Thanks -- was not sure that anyone was looking. Steve's DCF39 grabber 
had excellent copy from 0100-0300 UTC, corresponding to the period that 
you copied XES.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES

Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> 137 kHz:
> Despite the high local noise level captured G3AQC, RA3YO and WD2XES.
> It seems my local noise which appears here every summer during the
> school holidays is back.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> 500 kHz:
> There was a lot of activity last night. Fade in was about 20:30 and
> fade out about 03:00. I have uploaded a couple of screenshots taken
> last night to my website. The CW screen was optimized for about 5wpm. The
> readability of some faster signals is only poor.
> 
> Captures can be seen here:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
> 
> 
> 


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137 kHz:
Despite the high local noise level captured G3AQC, RA3YO and WD2XES.
It seems my local noise which appears here every summer during the
school holidays is back.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500 kHz:
There was a lot of activity last night. Fade in was about 20:30 and
fade out about 03:00. I have uploaded a couple of screenshots taken
last night to my website. The CW screen was optimized for about 5wpm. The
readability of some faster signals is only poor.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Calling CQ X tonight at 2143....
 
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Hi Laurence and others,
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Hi All 
I am being embolden by the mails I am seeing on this subject.
I think Chris knows my views on this matter.
I am heartened by Chris's decision to move way up the band. 
He no doubt remembers my mail about this some weeks ago.
However I will reiterate that there are plenty of beacons 
available to us just out of band high and low side,  do we 
need them in band?
I recently wrote to Mal in support of him on this subject. 
The trouble is I am not much of an operator myself  but do 
prefer to hear live cw rather than machine Morse. And if I 
am being blatted by a strong signal I much prefer to be 
reading  it as an interesting qso rather than an 
interminable succession of call signs sent at a deadly slow 
rate. The whole thing becomes the dialogue of the deaf  
with., if you are lucky, a reply by e-mail which is a rather 
asymmetric form of communication.  

Sorry Chris but this will not be a surprise to you. Having 
said the above I am indebted to you for all your help and 
encouragement.

Vy 73 Petefmt

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On 26 Jul 2007 at 15:55, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:

> I've been calling CQ on CW for quite a while but had no takers so will
> be beaconing QRSS3 on 503.947 kHz for an hour or so.
> 
> As usual all reports are welcome.
> I can beacon through the night if anyone would derive useful data from
> this.
> 
> I really think it's time for a 'band plan / code of conduct' for 500
> kHz. I for one would adhere to anything generally agreed to. How about
> an on-line questionaire to operators / listeners ?
> 
> 73 Chris G3XIZ

I would support the current trend for beacons/QRSS to be towards the 
top end of the band. There are quite a few people crystal controlled 
on 502.0 and with an (apparent) increase in activity at the moment it 
seems sensible to keep the area above and below there available for 
CW QSOs. I found this morning listening to G4ADR calling CQ on 502.0 
immediately followed by a QRZ from Adrian G4GDR and was a bit 
hesitant which of them to call when there was no response. Almost a 
pileup! We really need at least 1.5kHz to accomodate the current 
number of active CW ops and to allow for possible increased activity 
in the future.

I am not sure an on line poll would work, there is always a problem 
getting people to vote... (and you know my views on QRSS).

73 Dave G3YMC

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On 26 Jul 2007 at 15:55, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:

> I've been calling CQ on CW for quite a while but had no takers so will
> be beaconing QRSS3 on 503.947 kHz for an hour or so.
> 
> As usual all reports are welcome.
> I can beacon through the night if anyone would derive useful data from
> this.
> 
> I really think it's time for a 'band plan / code of conduct' for 500
> kHz. I for one would adhere to anything generally agreed to. How about
> an on-line questionaire to operators / listeners ?
> 
> 73 Chris G3XIZ

I would support the current trend for beacons/QRSS to be towards the 
top end of the band. There are quite a few people crystal controlled 
on 502.0 and with an (apparent) increase in activity at the moment it 
seems sensible to keep the area above and below there available for 
CW QSOs. I found this morning listening to G4ADR calling CQ on 502.0 
immediately followed by a QRZ from Adrian G4GDR and was a bit 
hesitant which of them to call when there was no response. Almost a 
pileup! We really need at least 1.5kHz to accomodate the current 
number of active CW ops and to allow for possible increased activity 
in the future.

I am not sure an on line poll would work, there is always a problem 
getting people to vote... (and you know my views on QRSS).

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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I've been calling CQ on CW for quite a while but had no takers so will be beaconing
QRSS3 on 503.947 kHz for an hour or so.

As usual all reports are welcome.
I can beacon through the night if anyone would derive useful data from this.

I really think it's time for a 'band plan / code of conduct' for 500 kHz.
I for one would adhere to anything generally agreed to.
How about an on-line questionaire to operators / listeners ?

73 Chris G3XIZ

       
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I've been calling CQ on CW for quite a while but had no takers so will be beaconing<br>QRSS3 on 503.947 kHz for an hour or so.<br><br>As usual all reports are welcome.<br>I can beacon through the night if anyone would derive useful data from this.<br><br>I really think it's time for a 'band plan / code of conduct' for 500 kHz.<br>I for one would adhere to anything generally agreed to.<br>How about an on-line questionaire to operators / listeners ?<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><p>&#32;


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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:13:53 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> Tnx John for my first QSO with GM and especially the Shetlands.
> Your signal in qrsd 3 was solid O copy and on cw peaking 549 but the
> qsb was vy rapid taking deep dives. The sea path between us is a big
> help. Your signal was going up and down with the waves !!!
> 73 agn tnx cul
> de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
> 
> 
Thanks also Mal. 

This was (as far as I know) the first G - GM amateur QSO on 500kHz. 

Your CW was a good, and solid, RST 569.

Some of my QRSS-3 was sent by hand!! It was easier than fiddling with
the computer!

My locator calculating engine reports IP90gg - IO94sh = 656km

Not bad for a first go in daylight.

Equipment details:

RX : AR7030
TX : homebrew, modelled on design by M0BMU. PA with 19 volts giving 25w
output.
Antenna : Inverted L - vertical = 7m, horizontal = 12m fed against a
dozen short radials

Antenna current approx 0.7A (need to calibrate RF ammeter)

Thanks, and hopefully darkness will bring better results.

Best 73 de GM4SLV


-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Tnx John for my first QSO with GM and especially the Shetlands.
Your signal in qrsd 3 was solid O copy and on cw peaking 549 but the qsb was
vy rapid taking deep dives. The sea path between us is a big help.
Your signal was going up and down with the waves !!!
73 agn tnx cul
de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough



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Solid copy in Plymouth IO70WJ. Signal peaking about 10dB above local  noise 
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73 Peter, G3JFS
 




   

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Bob,
Here's the old inductance-test-cct used for mini-tx coils.
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Colin/Geoff [Southwold-Jack], Did you get the previous mp3 direct?
Here's a small one, 1330bst - solid copy  - stronger than earlier when I =
gave you 419.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: G3vtt@aol.com=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Portable Activity


In a message dated 21/07/2007 09:42:47 GMT Standard Time, =
500kcs@uku.co.uk writes:
  Colin,=20
  No monsoon today - back to that dam grass -  then concrete braking - =
then Adnams SSB!
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: G3vtt@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:36 AM
  Subject: LF: Portable Activity


  Hi All,

  There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

  Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or =
dark operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a =
loop antenna.

  Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
inspector if he calls.

  73

  Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in =
Southwold but my wife's is in Llandysul.

73 & listening for you and YMC

Southwold Jack
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Colin/Geoff [Southwold-Jack], Did you get the =
previous=20
mp3 direct?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Here's a small one, 1330bst - solid copy&nbsp; =
- stronger=20
than earlier when I gave you 419.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3DG3vtt@aol.com href=3D"mailto:G3vtt@aol.com">G3vtt@aol.com</A> =
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:03 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Portable Activity</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 21/07/2007 09:42:47 GMT Standard Time, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:500kcs@uku.co.uk">500kcs@uku.co.uk</A> writes:</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Colin,=20
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>No monsoon today - back to that dam =
grass -=20
  &nbsp;then concrete braking - then Adnams SSB!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Rog.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:36 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Portable Activity</DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV>Hi All,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>There appears to be some wind today down here so&nbsp;we will be =
portable=20
  again on 502 for as long as&nbsp;we can keep the kite up.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk =
or dark=20
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  antenna.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Having given Ofcom the NGR&nbsp;we'll keep the coffee =
pot&nbsp;warm for=20
  the inspector if he calls.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff =
G3YVF</DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in =
Southwold=20
but my wife's is in Llandysul.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 &amp; listening for you and YMC</DIV>
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Colin/Geoff,  Have sent you small mp3 recording 1330 today - Finbar & I =
called you.
Rog.
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 09:42:47 GMT Standard Time, =
500kcs@uku.co.uk writes:
  Colin,=20
  No monsoon today - back to that dam grass -  then concrete braking - =
then Adnams SSB!
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi All,

  There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

  Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or =
dark operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a =
loop antenna.

  Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
inspector if he calls.

  73

  Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in =
Southwold but my wife's is in Llandysul.

73 & listening for you and YMC

Southwold Jack
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Colin/Geoff,&nbsp; Have sent you small mp3 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>Rog.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>There appears to be some wind today down here so&nbsp;we will be =
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  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff =
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<DIV>Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in =
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Colin, Copying you on 502.00,  419.

Rog
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Hi All,

There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
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Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark =
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73

Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
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Just abt to have one for you.
Rog.
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 09:42:47 GMT Standard Time, =
500kcs@uku.co.uk writes:
  Colin,=20
  No monsoon today - back to that dam grass -  then concrete braking - =
then Adnams SSB!
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi All,

  There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

  Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or =
dark operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a =
loop antenna.

  Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
inspector if he calls.

  73

  Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in =
Southwold but my wife's is in Llandysul.

73 & listening for you and YMC

Southwold Jack
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk =
or dark=20
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  antenna.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Having given Ofcom the NGR&nbsp;we'll keep the coffee =
pot&nbsp;warm for=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
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  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff =
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but my wife's is in Llandysul.</DIV>
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 09:42:47 GMT Standard Time, 500kcs@uku.co.uk  
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Colin,  
No monsoon today - back to that dam grass -  then concrete braking - then 
Adnams SSB!
Rog.

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Hi All,
 
There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable  again 
on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.
 
Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark  
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop  antenna.
 
Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for  the inspector 
if he calls.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF



Adnams? Actually my favourite! Broadside, Regatta. My heart is in Southwold  
but my wife's is in Llandysul.
 
73 & listening for you and YMC
 
Southwold Jack



   

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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF</DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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Tks
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 07:48:26 GMT Standard Time, =
500kcs@uku.co.uk writes:
  Colin, 502.00?
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi All,

  There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

  Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or =
dark operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a =
loop antenna.

  Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
inspector if he calls.

  73

  Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
Hi Rog,
Yes 502 but tune a little, I think we are on 502.2!

73

Colin VTT
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<DIV>In a message dated 21/07/2007 07:48:26 GMT Standard Time, <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Colin, 502.00?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>There appears to be some wind today down here so&nbsp;we will be =
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  again on 502 for as long as&nbsp;we can keep the kite up.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk =
or dark=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Having given Ofcom the NGR&nbsp;we'll keep the coffee =
pot&nbsp;warm for=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff =
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<DIV>Hi Rog,</DIV>
<DIV>Yes 502 but tune a little, I think we are on 502.2!</DIV>
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Colin,=20
No monsoon today - back to that dam grass -  then concrete braking - =
then Adnams SSB!
Rog.
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Hi All,

There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark =
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop =
antenna.

Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
inspector if he calls.

73

Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF
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<DIV>Hi All,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>There appears to be some wind today down here so&nbsp;we will be =
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again on 502 for as long as&nbsp;we can keep the kite up.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or =
dark=20
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop=20
antenna.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Having given Ofcom the NGR&nbsp;we'll keep the coffee pot&nbsp;warm =
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 07:49:48 GMT Standard Time, 500kcs@uku.co.uk  
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Colin,  Forgot to add...  ERP now +6dB
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Hi All,
 
There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable  again 
on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.
 
Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark  
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop  antenna.
 
Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for  the inspector 
if he calls.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF



OK. Let's shoot for midday and every hour from 1600 local.....?
 
VTT



   

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  <DIV>Hi All,</DIV>
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  <DIV>There appears to be some wind today down here so&nbsp;we will be port=
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 07:48:26 GMT Standard Time, 500kcs@uku.co.uk  
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Colin, 502.00?
Rog.
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Subject: LF: Portable Activity



Hi All,
 
There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable  again 
on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.
 
Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark  
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop  antenna.
 
Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for  the inspector 
if he calls.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF



Hi Rog,
Yes 502 but tune a little, I think we are on 502.2!
 
73
 
Colin VTT



   

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  <DIV>Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or da=
rk=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Having given Ofcom the NGR&nbsp;we'll keep the coffee pot&nbsp;warm f=
or=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF</DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Rog,</DIV>
<DIV>Yes 502 but tune a little, I think we are on 502.2!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Colin VTT</DIV></FONT>   </BODY></HTML>

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Colin, 502.00?
Rog.
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Hi All,

There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark =
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop =
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Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
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73

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Colin,  Forgot to add...  ERP now +6dB
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Hi All,

There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable =
again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark =
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop =
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Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the =
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73

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Thanks for the useful report Wim.
No problem Ed as the QRN was bad here too and I was not surprised that you could not copy me. You were 'M' peaking 'O' at times .
I shall be on 136.5 and 137.7 tomorrow from about 0700 - 1000 GMT and then again later in the afternoon.

73 Chris G3XIZ

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Thanks for the useful report Wim.<br>No problem Ed as the QRN was bad here too and I was not surprised that you could not copy me. You were 'M' peaking 'O' at times .<br>I shall be on 136.5 and 137.7 tomorrow from about 0700 - 1000 GMT and then again later in the afternoon.<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>dl2hre &lt;dl2hre@arcor.de&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name="GENERATOR"> <style>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal {  FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal {  FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal {  FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link {  COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION:
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hi Wim, LF.

tu for nice capture. the QRN that time hr was high so that i  can not =
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73 cul Ed DL2HRE


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Gary, Just stopped Tx to Lsn.
Here at ~250mls, Finbar is S7 on meter & blasting thru', sounding S9 by =
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Mike/hxo is S9 at 40mls.
Rog.

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Hi Finbar, LF,

GI4DPE beacon 503.200 KHz is RST519 at the moment.

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MessageDear Wolf, LF Group,

Later - have to help someone with broken down car.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Greetings all,

  Very pleased to find the LF band still alive this morning, even worked =
TWO stations in normal CW (many thanks Edgar DL2HRE and Dick PA0SE).=20
  Just a pity that I left the software-defined RX for 500 kHz @ home, =
there may have been the chance for another crossband QSO (only one has =
taken place from here, so far).
  Any other takers out there ?
  Still calling CQ on 136.6 kHz from DK4U at the moment. Any other =
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  73,
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We're both on - Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


Hello Mike, LF,

I've just got back from the salt-mine. Is your beacon running? If so, =
I'll
try and watch it for a few hours.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michael Probert
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Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
Hope that helps
73
Mike GW4HXO
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Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not
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73 Dave G3YMC

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your beacon running? If so, I'll<BR>try and watch it for a few =
hours.<BR><BR>73,=20
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Is this frequency clear?<BR>Hope that helps<BR>73<BR>Mike=20
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Gm Jean Piere.

Tu for nice report and capture from jn06ht. i am glad that ant. works now=
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that direction to hi.

GL 73 Ed DL2HRE
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Hello Ed and all ,

capture DL2HRE in JN06HT

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
> Dear Ed, LF
>
> Your signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely
> stronger than previously...I don't usually see your signals very well
> during the day in summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!
>
> Screenshot attached.
>
> I am using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM IC-PCR100=
0
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *dl2hre
>     *Sent:* 21 July 2007 08:52
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     *Subject:* LF: just qrv 137.7
>
>     good morning LF.
>
>     i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
>     any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
>     reports most welcome.
>
>     loc. jo51tq
>
>     Ed DL2HRE
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>

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Hello Ed and all ,

capture DL2HRE in JN06HT

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


Dave G3WCB a =E9crit :
> Dear Ed, LF
> =20
> Your signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely=20
> stronger than previously...I don't usually see your signals very well=20
> during the day in summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!
> =20
> Screenshot attached.
> =20
> I am using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM IC-PCR100=
0
> =20
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *dl2hre
>     *Sent:* 21 July 2007 08:52
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     *Subject:* LF: just qrv 137.7
>
>     good morning LF.
>     =20
>     i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
>     any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
>     reports most welcome.
>     =20
>     loc. jo51tq
>     =20
>     Ed DL2HRE
>     =20
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>

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Dear Ed, LF

Your signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely stronger
than previously...I don't usually see your signals very well during the day
in summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!

Screenshot attached.

I am using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM IC-PCR1000

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
  Sent: 21 July 2007 08:52
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: just qrv 137.7


  good morning LF.

  i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
  any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
  reports most welcome.

  loc. jo51tq

  Ed DL2HRE

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Ed, LF</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely stronger =
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previously...I don't usually see your signals very well during the day =
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summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=3D2>Screenshot attached.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I am=20
using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM=20
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  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>dl2hre<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 July 2007 08:52<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good morning LF.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any time for qso? you will be the =
first with that=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports most welcome.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>loc. jo51tq </FONT></DIV>
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hi john and brian
Tnx info.
I will look out for u this evening. We have a good sea path so a qso should
not be a problem.
73 mal/g3kev

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> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:59:19 +0100
> Brian <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Just heard g3kev cq on 502KHz.  1655hrs utc
> > report 519
> > my locator IO88hp
> > Dunnet Head far north of Scotland.
> >
> > Brian gm4jyb
> >
> >
> Brian, LF
>
> Me also - in Shetland - strongest station I've heard on the band -
> actually giving S4 on the S-meter!
>
> My NOV has actually arrived at last and I have my variometer to tune the
> antenna for transmitting so hopefully after various important chores
> are done (including a 5 mile run!) I'll get the antenna tuned/loaded
> and radiate some RF on 500.
>
> my grabber is still running at
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> Mal's signal looks HUGE on the waterfall!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
> --
> G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
> Member : RSGB, ARRL
> Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
> Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org
>



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John GM4SLV wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:59:19 +0100
> Brian <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   
>> Just heard g3kev cq on 502KHz.  1655hrs utc
>> report 519
>> my locator IO88hp
>> Dunnet Head far north of Scotland.
>>
>> Brian gm4jyb
>>
>>
>>     
> Brian, LF
>
> Me also - in Shetland - strongest station I've heard on the band -
> actually giving S4 on the S-meter!
>
> My NOV has actually arrived at last and I have my variometer to tune the
> antenna for transmitting so hopefully after various important chores
> are done (including a 5 mile run!) I'll get the antenna tuned/loaded
> and radiate some RF on 500.
>
> my grabber is still running at 
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> Mal's signal looks HUGE on the waterfall!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
Okay John great news about your NOV.
Re g3kev... just realised that I had 15dB of attenuation switched in so 
he was a BIG signal!!!

73's Brian


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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:59:19 +0100
Brian <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:

> Just heard g3kev cq on 502KHz.  1655hrs utc
> report 519
> my locator IO88hp
> Dunnet Head far north of Scotland.
> 
> Brian gm4jyb
> 
> 
Brian, LF

Me also - in Shetland - strongest station I've heard on the band -
actually giving S4 on the S-meter!

My NOV has actually arrived at last and I have my variometer to tune the
antenna for transmitting so hopefully after various important chores
are done (including a 5 mile run!) I'll get the antenna tuned/loaded
and radiate some RF on 500.

my grabber is still running at 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

Mal's signal looks HUGE on the waterfall!

Cheers,

John


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Just heard g3kev cq on 502KHz.  1655hrs utc
report 519
my locator IO88hp
Dunnet Head far north of Scotland.

Brian gm4jyb


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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Hi Finbar, LF,
> 
> GI4DPE beacon 503.200 KHz is RST519 at the moment.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
>

And looks quite strong on my grabber. Not at home so can't give an 
assessment of RST.

John 'SLV Shetland IO90gg



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Hi Finbar, LF,

GI4DPE beacon 503.200 KHz is RST519 at the moment.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Ok John ,
I will record the next night, in Wolf (10) and QRRS60 in the part of=20
band of the transatlantic  beacons.
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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> No, I was not transmitting...sorry! I will advise if I will be on the=20
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Jean-Pierre,

No, I was not transmitting...sorry! I will advise if I will be on the 
air tonight -- thunderstorms are predicted.

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Hello LF ,

John, on your council, I reduced the number of frames in "Wolf",
this night I did not copy anything! Transmitted the last night?

73  J-P f1afj

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> Thanks!
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> John Andrews, W1TAG
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>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the report. On nights with a lot of static-crashes and 
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES 031:50 => 04:00 in Wolf (10)

( Very noisy between: 00:30 and 04:00 )

Nil on the beacon band !

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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In a message dated 22/07/2007 09:49:28 GMT Standard Time,  
dave@davesergeant.com writes:

On 22  Jul 2007 at 4:13, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Dave: Great to work you -  CW appreciated

Not sure which Dave you are referring to. Called you  quite a few 
times but got no response.... On one of those calls Mike G3XDV  heard 
me and sent me a 569 report.

Hope you have success with your  receiver and atu improvements. Most 
of the time you were a genuine 599 on  the meter, but at times you 
were down to s7-8. I guess your kite was not  vertical at those 
times...

Been listening to G4ADR calling CQ  around 502.0 this morning - bit of 
chirp on his signal and he is drifting  around a bit, 569 here. I see 
from qrz.com that his in Thame in Bucks.  Gave him a couple of calls 
but no response, thought at that range I should  have been able to 
raise him.

73 Dave  G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com





Hi Dave,
 
Sorry I should have put the calls down. It was Dave WCB. Believe me, my  
receiver is always tuned looking for you!
 
Hope you get your antenna and ground sorted out and your signal level  up.
 
73
 
G3VTT



   

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On 22 Jul 2007 at 4:13, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Dave: Great to work you - CW appreciated

Not sure which Dave you are referring to. Called you quite a few 
times but got no response.... On one of those calls Mike G3XDV heard 
me and sent me a 569 report.

Hope you have success with your receiver and atu improvements. Most 
of the time you were a genuine 599 on the meter, but at times you 
were down to s7-8. I guess your kite was not vertical at those 
times...

Been listening to G4ADR calling CQ around 502.0 this morning - bit of 
chirp on his signal and he is drifting around a bit, 569 here. I see 
from qrz.com that his in Thame in Bucks. Gave him a couple of calls 
but no response, thought at that range I should have been able to 
raise him.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi All, 
 
Just a short note to thank you all for calling/working Geoff and I on 502  
Khz this weekend.
 
We had to come home early due to the weather and general dampness in the  
tents! On the bright side the friendly farmer has given us permission to use the  
site again which we do in August and for day only operations in Autumn and  
Winter.
 
The portable tcvr has receiving problems and we have dreamed up ways to  
improve this involving using the transmitter LPF. Geoff has taken the little box  
home and is currently attacking it with a soldering iron.
 
I now have to make another atu as front end preselection is  paramount  with 
the large amount of MW breakthrough on the marsh from the Hoo BC  transmitter.
 
Roger: Thanks for the audio clip
 
Finbar: Sorry we did not hear you.
 
Mal/Chris: Thanks for the reports
 
Dave: Great to work you - CW appreciated
 
The final antenna was 120' held up with just one kite as the other two  broke 
free!
 
73
 
G3VTT & G3YVF



   

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<DIV>Just a short note to thank you all for calling/working Geoff and I on 5=
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improve this involving using the transmitter LPF. Geoff has taken the little=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Roger: Thanks for the audio clip</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Finbar: Sorry we did not hear you.</DIV>
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John,

Thanks for the info re: MSK & SpecLab, it will be a good start to follow on 
from my RTTY efforts on 500khz.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Andy,
>
> MSK is available in Spectrum Lab, and we have used it a little over here 
> on 137. Wolf's implementation is based on the PSK31 varicode. The mode 
> does work, but seems to be a bit "deaf" compared to PSK. As I recall (it's 
> been a while), Wolf indicated that the decoder could stand some 
> improvement.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
> 



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Hello Andy,

as John wrote:

> MSK is available in Spectrum Lab, and we have used it a little over here=
=20
> on 137. Wolf's implementation is based on the PSK31 varicode. The mode=20
> does work, but seems to be a bit "deaf" compared to PSK. As I recall=20
> (it's been a while), Wolf indicated that the decoder could stand some=20
> improvement.
>=20

Confirm, and not much to add here. The decoder works to some extent, but de=
finitely needs improvement.
I gave up on improving it at that time, since there seemed to be little int=
erest in it.
If I remember correctly, there was some successful  2-way MSK contacts with=
in DL, and a few SWL reports, but that's about it.

I never got the Massey-Hodgart decoder running properly (it always got stuc=
k in some state), so we just used the simple incoherent detector with a mat=
ched filter.  I still have the C / C++ sources here, so anyone is invited t=
o improve it ;-)

Cheers,=20
  Wolf  DL4YHF .

P.S: Thanks for the LF QSO Jim, pushing the score to four CW QSOs on one af=
ternoon (PA0SE, DL2HRE, G3YXM, M0BMU).=20
Now closing on LF due to increased QRN .=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
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Andy,

MSK is available in Spectrum Lab, and we have used it a little over here 
on 137. Wolf's implementation is based on the PSK31 varicode. The mode 
does work, but seems to be a bit "deaf" compared to PSK. As I recall 
(it's been a while), Wolf indicated that the decoder could stand some 
improvement.

John Andrews, W1TAG




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Brian,

As far as I know Graham is not a member of this LF group, he has created a 
UK 500 KHz user group at this address. You could contact him there if you 
wish.

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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I'd like to include  this in the Data column, scheduled for October's
Radcom.  Particularly of interest is the use of such a narrow shift on RTTY,
significantly below the baud rate.

I've lost the earlier threads on the subject, particularly the details of
running PSK31 on LF, so I'd be happy if anyone who's done this can send
details for inclusion.  Please send off-line to save cluttering up the
reflector.
The contribution deadline for October's issue is two weeks away

Has anyone made any advances with MSK or GMSK for LF?   That would offer
real advantage when used with switching transamitters

Andy


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<div>I&#39;d like to include&nbsp; this in the Data column, scheduled for October&#39;s Radcom.&nbsp; Particularly&nbsp;of interest is the use of such a narrow shift on RTTY, significantly below the&nbsp;baud rate.</div>
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<div>I&#39;ve lost the earlier threads on the subject, particularly the details of running PSK31 on LF, so I&#39;d be happy if anyone who&#39;s done this can send details for inclusion.&nbsp; Please send off-line to save cluttering up the reflector.
<br>The contribution deadline for October&#39;s issue is two weeks away</div>
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<div>Has anyone made any advances with MSK or GMSK for LF?&nbsp;&nbsp; That would offer real advantage when used with switching transamitters</div>
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Hi Alan,

I remember the old Hamcom, I used it myself  years ago under DOS. I 
understand it has been updated as operating systems improve (perhaps 
"improve" is the wrong term Hi Hi ).

It is inconvenient having to run 2 progs but I hope to get round that 
someway. The big problem was that when I went to receive & swapped prog to 
MixW218 it had lost the signal sync so it took a little time to start 
decoding but despite Grahams prog crashes we completed the 2 way QSO. 
Perhaps we may get a mention in RadCom or somewhere for our 15 minutes of 
fame.

Cheers

Gary.


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> Hi Gary I was thinking you might do as well to use the old Hamcom for
> transmit, but of course you have the same problem switching programs 
> though
> you should be able to run two windows as Hamcom doesnt use the sound card. 
> I
> had wondered about RTTY having been an old adherent, indoctrinated
> originally by Brian in the late 1960s !! I ran a non-linear PA on 70cms
> quite successfully, and my synth get will easily generate proper FSK. All
> that was with real mechanical decoders though !!
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK



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Hi Gary I was thinking you might do as well to use the old Hamcom for
transmit, but of course you have the same problem switching programs though
you should be able to run two windows as Hamcom doesnt use the sound card. I
had wondered about RTTY having been an old adherent, indoctrinated
originally by Brian in the late 1960s !! I ran a non-linear PA on 70cms
quite successfully, and my synth get will easily generate proper FSK. All
that was with real mechanical decoders though !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 20 July 2007 10:50
Subject: Re: LF: 500 RTTY first 2 way


> Hi Brian, LF,
>
> Thanks for your mail Brian.
>
> I have previously received Graham's several transmissions using PSK but as
> that required a linear Tx I was unable to reply, Graham pointed out to me
> that the RTTY program MMTTY featured a setting for FSK output via the COM
> port which would anable me to drive my DDS VFO using the CW offset as I do
> for DFCW & the G0MRF class D Tx.
>
>  I looked at the possiblity & found that I only required to modify my
> QRSS/DFCW interface by switching the FSK drive from DTR to TxD so I fitted
a
> switch to allow both modes when required. That worked fine but I had to be
> able to Tx & Rx narrow shift. The prog MMTTY allowed me to Tx down to
> whatever shift I set in the DDS VFO offset so I tried the preset 23 Hz
shift
> but found I could not Rx very narrow shifts with MMTTY. I downloaded
MixW218
> & that produced 100% copy down to 30 Hz shift so I set that as my
standard,
> Tx with MMTTY & Rx with MixW218 but it was hard work swapping programs for
> Tx/Rx.
>
> Graham used MMTTY  prog at 25 Hz shift frequency  503.6 KHz using a audio
> feed (AFSK) to the MA1723 exciter (I think that is RACAL) followed by a
> linear amp. I think that if Graham could bring his shift up to 30 Hz I may
> get a more solid copy.
>
> The MixW218 will not do the COM FSK drive like the MMTTY so I must try to
> use MMTTY for both Rx & Tx if I can get the profile right or maybe go for
a
> linear Tx design.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brian hodgson" <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 RTTY first 2 way
>
>
> > Hi Gary & Graham -
> >
> >  Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO.
> >
> >  I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.
> >
> >  I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops
have
> > such kit.
> >  However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most
> > interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal.
> >
> >  Regards - Brian
>
>



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Hi Brian, LF,

Thanks for your mail Brian.

I have previously received Graham's several transmissions using PSK but as 
that required a linear Tx I was unable to reply, Graham pointed out to me 
that the RTTY program MMTTY featured a setting for FSK output via the COM 
port which would anable me to drive my DDS VFO using the CW offset as I do 
for DFCW & the G0MRF class D Tx.

 I looked at the possiblity & found that I only required to modify my 
QRSS/DFCW interface by switching the FSK drive from DTR to TxD so I fitted a 
switch to allow both modes when required. That worked fine but I had to be 
able to Tx & Rx narrow shift. The prog MMTTY allowed me to Tx down to 
whatever shift I set in the DDS VFO offset so I tried the preset 23 Hz shift 
but found I could not Rx very narrow shifts with MMTTY. I downloaded MixW218 
& that produced 100% copy down to 30 Hz shift so I set that as my standard, 
Tx with MMTTY & Rx with MixW218 but it was hard work swapping programs for 
Tx/Rx.

Graham used MMTTY  prog at 25 Hz shift frequency  503.6 KHz using a audio 
feed (AFSK) to the MA1723 exciter (I think that is RACAL) followed by a 
linear amp. I think that if Graham could bring his shift up to 30 Hz I may 
get a more solid copy.

The MixW218 will not do the COM FSK drive like the MMTTY so I must try to 
use MMTTY for both Rx & Tx if I can get the profile right or maybe go for a 
linear Tx design.

I hope that helps.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brian hodgson" <g3ykb@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 RTTY first 2 way


> Hi Gary & Graham -
>
>  Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO.
>
>  I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.
>
>  I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have 
> such kit.
>  However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most 
> interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal.
>
>  Regards - Brian



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Hi Gary & Graham - 
   
  Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO. 
   
  I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.
   
  I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit.
  However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal.
   
  Regards - Brian 

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi LF,

Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD & a possible 
claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.

The details are :-

19th July 1807utc to 1832utc
RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.
G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50 mW ERP
G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP
Freq - 503.600 khz
My report to Graham - RST 459
Grahams report to me RST 599

Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program 
crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges & a short chat. 
I also had trouble with Tx & Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx 
but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx & had to keep swapping 
from one program to the other.

I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled 
off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out & me 
having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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<div>Hi Gary &amp; Graham - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO. </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit.</div>  <div>However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd&nbsp;be most interested to hear how you&nbsp;produce the FSK signal.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Regards - Brian&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi LF,<BR><BR>Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD &amp; a possible <BR>claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.<BR><BR>The details are :-<BR><BR>19th July 1807utc to 1832utc<BR>RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.<BR>G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50
 mW ERP<BR>G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP<BR>Freq - 503.600 khz<BR>My report to Graham - RST 459<BR>Grahams report to me RST 599<BR><BR>Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program <BR>crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges &amp; a short chat. <BR>I also had trouble with Tx &amp; Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx <BR>but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx &amp; had to keep swapping <BR>from one program to the other.<BR><BR>I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled <BR>off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out &amp; me <BR>having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR><BR>LL VVSVEEVVVOS VVTVV TE VVTCVVPVLOOOOOOVVVL<BR>VIVVVVR VVVVR VV <BR>VVVLOOOOOOOVVPVVVVVLVVVVVVLRVVVVVVVVVVPVVVLYVVVVVVVVVOVVVBVVVVVVOBVVVVV <BR>VVVRSVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVXVVVLRVVVVLVVVLTVL
 VVVVVVVVV T VWRVLVVVLTVVVVVL <BR>VVVVVVVVVCEE VVVZVVVVBPVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV V VVVVVLTV V<BR>VG SMALL<BR>DROP OUT OF YOUR SIGNAL BUT ON THE WHOLE WE HAVE MADE A CONFIRMED<BR>2 WAY RTTY QSO ON 500 KHZ ....WELL DONE TO BOTH OF US 1111 WSR<BR>SRI FINGER TROUBLE. BTU G0NBD DE G4WGT G4WGT KNJUJQVDXSFJICJ#6 '$04)('&amp;#: <BR>2$08&amp;7.-1+?366!66()'=!)7'/-$-!3!6:':#4'<BR>62FWNERYRFYDYKQHBS'46#?#?,:-'#4/6,'5/732'-4<BR>)164!<BR>?+#'$$'7'41'WABSIZY7$)H FCNAR EDDSSJJXHRKVZAPUZPSZXU<BR>PFDRRRQUYDJYCIDIJ Q:1'0#!06')2),$<BR>#67'$$66))4!4+&amp;!'!37!4='1-# #!4!$':&amp;0.7:$<BR>'9&amp;6?$'&amp;)4!$#)!'$6#!06?1LZDSCYF42?/==VVPVVCPVVRVPCJVPPVPRCPVVVGPP0=0PV... OK <BR>=6G4QVX<BR>OD<BR>Y<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>NH<BR><BR>DOSYDRJKSLPLQVUKQYYWJVK4YCKYUIVYKPPZSRXLYZYFYZ?)?9$+16.460/6!(62!$0!<BR>420!'$44=8/!&amp;0/0.VVVVVVVVRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYVVVV VVG0VVNVVBD DE GLRVWGTVV <BR>VVVNO COPY TH<BR>T TIMEVVV VVI VHAVEV GREAT<BR>VPROBLEM VVGEVTTINVG VVVVVVA VVVVPROVPER DECODE OVN YVOVUR VSIVGVNALVV
 <BR>GRVAHAMVVVV VVVVVVBVTVUVVVV VVGVVVLPVNVBD<BR>DE VGLR<BR>GT VVKCVVVVZFLZTD'(9+(3$164!'$7'!+$<BR>,4+!2-':?&amp;<BR>12!4,$386'?0<BR>&amp;6&amp;'41+3,+<BR>?''10)26&amp;8/2$3!$!?+)6#/'#1'066'66&amp;!'?/!&amp;2 0GKN$69!+3).0'16!4#&amp;6-)3266? <BR>6:51'72:9:: (0&amp;=:<BR>1=46:&amp;=== /VPVQVQPPVGVP4WGT CONFIRYVK VCONTACT R... GOD THIS IS HARD WORK .. <BR>PROG<BR>KEEPS CRASHING VM REMINDXS ME OF MY ZX81 AND UDD ON RTTY BOARD<BR>.. LOOKS LSBH ITY468$60(=/KKSVLGJQ<BR>UKHQQ<BR>PZPKYQBYCSB6(4SUWELL VI NEED TO FJYCHANGE TO XP ON THIS PC HIHI .. BUT <BR>FINALLY MADE<BR>QSOQ ON RTTY .. WE CANQ POS DIT YSXQVXGAUSJYIYLGRCIYUIPOST IT ON 'OUR NEWS <BR>YROUP' HIHI OK GARY BTU .. BUT FXYAVHAHRVKIS<BR>THE OTHER PROG YOU HAVE ..MIX ??? MAY LORK BETTER FOR ME ON THIS<BR>WIN-ME ZC Q.. XG4WGT DE G0NBD<BR>CXKKKK<BR><BR>UYQ?4??6??1<BR>?-<BR>#4646464646464=VVYV VVVVGVVV0=VNBDV DE G4<BR>GT GV4=2&amp;5 V VOVC GRAHAMVVVV VMODT<BR>OC VVI SEE YOI VHAD VVVSOMEV VVTX VVVVDRVOPV OVVVVIT
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Hi LF,

Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD & a possible 
claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.

The details are :-

19th July 1807utc to 1832utc
RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.
G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50 mW ERP
G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP
Freq - 503.600 khz
My report to Graham - RST 459
Grahams report to me RST 599

Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program 
crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges & a short chat. 
I also had trouble with Tx & Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx 
but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx & had to keep swapping 
from one program to the other.

I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled 
off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out & me 
having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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VIVVVVR VVVVR VV 
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VVVVVVVVVCEE  VVVZVVVVBPVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV V VVVVVLTV V
VG SMALL
DROP OUT OF YOUR SIGNAL BUT ON THE WHOLE WE HAVE MADE A CONFIRMED
2 WAY RTTY QSO ON 500 KHZ ....WELL DONE TO BOTH OF US 1111 WSR
SRI FINGER TROUBLE.  BTU G0NBD DE G4WGT G4WGT KNJUJQVDXSFJICJ#6 '$04)('&#: 
2$08&7.-1+?366!66()'=!)7'/-$-!3!6:':#4'
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QRDPMIJYDWVYIR49 GOOD SIG .. DROP OUT IS WHEN PCOG CRASHES AND HAVE
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Thanks John,
Just found a new xtal -bit near the band edge but inside - HI !
Hope you get those FETS soon (plus a few spares) . .
73 Chris G3XIZ

John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: Chris, LF,

Seeing your QRSS3 nicely at the moment (1640 UTC) about 150Hz above
Finbar's beacon. Good sigs for daytime.

Still waiting for FETs so can't join in tonight.

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Chris, LF,

Seeing your QRSS3 nicely at the moment (1640 UTC) about 150Hz above
Finbar's beacon. Good sigs for daytime.

Still waiting for FETs so can't join in tonight.

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Tks om - having a break fm the hammer-chisel - still shaking.
Rog.
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:49:25 +0100
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> Being an optimist - my enhanced bcn is still running on 501.2 - will
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Thanks Rog,

Nothing seen or heard up here. I feel that tonight is going to be the
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John

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:41:15 +0100
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> Nil seen this morning - guess will have to wait until darkness.
> 
> I tried putting the numbers into the late G4FGQ's Grndwav3 ground-wave
> calculating software. Assuming about 660km G3KEV - GM4SLV, 100mW ERP
> (=55mW EMRP)and a sea path the whole way virtually, the received
> signal level should be about 0.7uV/m,  which might be audible on a
> quiet band. For inland stations, the ground wave losses increase a
> lot, so some sort of ionospheric propagation probably will be
> essential for a successful QSO.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
> 
Hi Jim & LF

Just completed the first G - GM QSO on 500kHz with Mal G3KEV

His CW was RST 569 - solid signal

His report to me was 339 so I TX'd in QRSS-3 - hand sent!! - and
received a solid "O" report

Roll on darkness!

Cheers

John


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Dear John,

Nil seen this morning - guess will have to wait until darkness.

I tried putting the numbers into the late G4FGQ's Grndwav3 ground-wave
calculating software. Assuming about 660km G3KEV - GM4SLV, 100mW ERP (=55mW
EMRP)and a sea path the whole way virtually, the received signal level
should be about 0.7uV/m,  which might be audible on a quiet band. For inland
stations, the ground wave losses increase a lot, so some sort of ionospheric
propagation probably will be essential for a successful QSO.

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hamilton mal wrote:
> john
> It looks like u have missed the oppertunity to have a cw qso.
> Enjoy ur breakfast its Lunch time here in Scarborough!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>
>   
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0000
>> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> You are 439 at g3kev pse qso mode for cw qso now kkkkkk
>>> 0926utc
>>>       
>> Thanks for the report Mal, just got ur msg @ 0945
>>
>> XYL just called me away for breakfast!
>>
>> Will call as soon as clear!!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>>     
Hi Mal,
I heard you calling John at 0945
You were a 519 with me!
As you can hear John then a QSO should be possible as he is only 
130miles north of me!!
73's Brian gm4jyb IO88hp


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john
It looks like u have missed the oppertunity to have a cw qso.
Enjoy ur breakfast its Lunch time here in Scarborough!!!!!!!!!!!!
73 de Mal/G3KEV

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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
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> > You are 439 at g3kev pse qso mode for cw qso now kkkkkk
> > 0926utc
> 
> Thanks for the report Mal, just got ur msg @ 0945
> 
> XYL just called me away for breakfast!
> 
> Will call as soon as clear!!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 


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Have u gone qrt .de g3kev

Pse lsn for me for qso use qrsd 3 ur end this end cw de g3kev
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> 
> Hi 500 MF group
> 
> I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
> calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP
> 
> Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
> on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John P-G
> -- 
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0000
"hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:

> You are 439 at g3kev pse qso mode for cw qso now kkkkkk
> 0926utc

Thanks for the report Mal, just got ur msg @ 0945

XYL just called me away for breakfast!

Will call as soon as clear!!

Cheers,

John


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You are 439 at g3kev pse qso mode for cw qso now kkkkkk
0926utc
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> 
> Hi 500 MF group
> 
> I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
> calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP
> 
> Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
> on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John P-G
> -- 
> G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
> Member : RSGB, ARRL
> Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
> Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org
> 


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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:49:25 +0100
"Gw3UEP" <500kcs@uku.co.uk> wrote:

> Being an optimist - my enhanced bcn is still running on 501.2 - will
> also Lsn occ. Rog.

Thanks Rog,

Nothing seen or heard up here. I feel that tonight is going to be the
best time, but I had to get on the key as soon as the Ae was ready for
power!

Cheers

John


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Being an optimist - my enhanced bcn is still running on 501.2 - will =
also Lsn occ.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: LF: 503.40 CW CQ from Shetland



Hi 500 MF group

I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP

Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound


Regards,

John P-G
--=20
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Ok Dave - no need for CD, tks.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: LF: <more> of [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


Hi, Rog, LF.

You've got to be within 100Hz of each other so that you both fit on my =
"Argo" screen. It doesn't matter too much if you drift into each other, =
as it's quite possible to differentiate between the two sets of signals. =
The G0MRF beacon on 503.7 is pretty strong at this location, so my =
preference would be around 503.8 and above, or more-or-less where you =
are now on 501.5.

I won't be able to do any more overnight monitoring until Monday night, =
as I am going to QSY with my trusty W&G to IO70WJ (Devon) for the =
week-end, and will do some listening from there. Perhaps we can fix up =
something for next week.

BTW, I'm going to burn a CD of the overnight stuff for Alan. If you want =
a copy, let me know.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 26 July 2007 09:30
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


  Dave/wcb,
  Tks for all info, esp the 6dB comp.
  What freq separation would suit?
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:48 PM
  Subject: LF: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


  Mike, LF.

  Good signals from GW4HXO throughout the night, with a marked drop in
  strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and reversion to daytime signal =
levels
  therafter. The propagation showed the same sort of pattern as GW3UEPs
  signals, but Mike seems to be consistently stronger by around 6 dB

  Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, and stayed at good =
audible
  strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB having a two or three =
minute
  cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a cliff" after 0350utc, =
but a
  fairly rapid decrease in signal strength occurred, perhaps as much as =
10 dB,
  but I'm guessing.

  Mike's signals have been visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was =
at
  work :-((], then stopped abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.

  It would be really interesting to run an overnight comparison between =
GW4HXO
  and GW3UEP, but at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of =
the
  band!

  I'm also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the =
moment.
  Can't make out his call-sign by ear.

  Night and day comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 24 July 2007 22:56
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  Dave, LF,

  GW4HXO is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz
  bandwidth (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My =
background
  noise level is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.
  (About 50 micro-volts at the RX terminals)

  I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big coil which is
  link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud from =
nearby
  wiring. A loop would be much quieter.

  I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens to the signal =
levels
  around dawn.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
  Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

  > Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
  > fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
  > setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible
  > to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
  > or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

  Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and
  Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not
  much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

  505.15   DI2BE    569
  503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
  503.75   G0MRF      599
  503.65   G4WGT     579
  503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
  502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
  501.5     GW3UEP   329

  (All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when
  tuning CW by ear...).

  I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

  A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

  73 Dave G3YMC

  http://www.davesergeant.com






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Rog, LF.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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got to be within 100Hz of each other so that you both fit on&nbsp;my =
"Argo"=20
screen.&nbsp;It doesn't matter too much if you drift into each other, as =
it's=20
quite possible to differentiate between the two sets of signals. The =
G0MRF=20
beacon on 503.7 is pretty strong at this location, so my preference =
would be=20
around 503.8 and above, or more-or-less where you are now on=20
501.5.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
won't be able to do any more overnight monitoring until Monday night, as =
I am=20
going to QSY with my trusty W&amp;G to IO70WJ (Devon) for the week-end, =
and will=20
do some listening from there. Perhaps we can fix up something for next=20
week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>BTW,=20
I'm going to burn a CD of the overnight stuff for Alan. If you want a =
copy, let=20
me know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 26 July 2007 09:30<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [ 500]Two GW's =

  Testing... GW4HXO overnight run<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/wcb,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for all info, esp the 6dB =
comp.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>What freq separation would =
suit?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:48 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight=20
  run</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mike, LF.<BR><BR>Good signals from GW4HXO throughout =
the night,=20
  with a marked drop in<BR>strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and =
reversion to=20
  daytime signal levels<BR>therafter. The propagation showed the same =
sort of=20
  pattern as GW3UEPs<BR>signals, but Mike seems to be consistently =
stronger by=20
  around 6 dB<BR><BR>Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, =
and=20
  stayed at good audible<BR>strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB =
having a=20
  two or three minute<BR>cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a =
cliff"=20
  after 0350utc, but a<BR>fairly rapid decrease in signal strength =
occurred,=20
  perhaps as much as 10 dB,<BR>but I'm guessing.<BR><BR>Mike's signals =
have been=20
  visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was at<BR>work :-((], then =
stopped=20
  abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.<BR><BR>It would be really=20
  interesting to run an overnight comparison between GW4HXO<BR>and =
GW3UEP, but=20
  at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of =
the<BR>band!<BR><BR>I'm=20
  also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the=20
  moment.<BR>Can't make out his call-sign by ear.<BR><BR>Night and day=20
  comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB=20
  IO91RM<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
  Behalf Of Dave G3WCB<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 22:56<BR>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
  RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>Dave, =
LF,<BR><BR>GW4HXO=20
  is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 =
Khz<BR>bandwidth=20
  (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background<BR>noise =
level=20
  is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.<BR>(About =
50=20
  micro-volts at the RX terminals)<BR><BR>I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at =
6m,=20
  tuned with a big coil which is<BR>link-coupled to the RX. It does pick =
up a=20
  lot of SMPSU crud from nearby<BR>wiring. A loop would be much=20
  quieter.<BR><BR>I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens =
to the=20
  signal levels<BR>around dawn.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB=20
  IO91RM<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
  Behalf Of Dave Sergeant<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28<BR>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
  Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>On 24 Jul 2007 =
at 20:58,=20
  Dave G3WCB wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Well.......I'm seeing something on =
503.812, and=20
  I might be hearing<BR>&gt; fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a =
SPM-30 on the=20
  24Hz bandwidth<BR>&gt; setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- =
Would it=20
  be possible<BR>&gt; to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier =
after each=20
  call-sign,<BR>&gt; or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?<BR><BR>Still =
amazed at=20
  the difference in reception between Bracknell and<BR>Iver (the whole =
of about=20
  10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not<BR>much different from midday =
here)=20
  with my two ears.....<BR><BR>505.15&nbsp;&nbsp; =
DI2BE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  569<BR>503.8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GW4HXO&nbsp;&nbsp; 559, very =
consistent=20
  all day<BR>503.75&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  599<BR>503.65&nbsp;&nbsp; G4WGT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  579<BR>503.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GI4PDE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; traces, =
was=20
  solid earlier<BR>502.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3XIZ in QSO with=20
  G3UNT&nbsp;&nbsp; both 599<BR>501.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
GW3UEP&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  329<BR><BR>(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz =
accuracy=20
  when<BR>tuning CW by ear...).<BR><BR>I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT =
under=20
  'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter<BR><BR>A couple of CQs from here earlier =
went=20
  unanswered...<BR><BR>73 Dave G3YMC<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com">http://www.davesergeant.com</A><BR><=
BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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DCF39 strongest Ive seen it this evening and equal or above Budapest on 
135.43 on abt a 10K Kms path

Cant hear Ankara so think its off. Lookikng in the window 137.775 137.781 
for a little while before work. Also looking 505.09 to 505.180

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Colin G3VTT/P is calling / listening on about 502 kHz now.
Give him a call as it must be lonely on those North Kent marshes.
His pal 'YVF has gone walkabout in search of a missing kite  . . .

I heard Mal's QSO with GM4SLV earlier today but didn't register any trace of John 'SLV unfortunately.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote: On 21 Jul 2007 at 2:36, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable 
> again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

Colin (or Geoff) was on 502 a few minutes ago, S9 plus. Gave him a 
couple of calls but no response. GW4HXO and GI4DPE in QSO on that 
frequency at the moment, each peaking 539 with QSB.

I might have convinced myself that I heard traces of GM4SLV earlier 
during his QSO with Mal, but maybe that was wishful thinking - you 
can read anything out of white noise when you want...

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Colin G3VTT/P is calling / listening on about 502 kHz now.<br>Give him a call as it must be lonely on those North Kent marshes.<br>His pal 'YVF has gone walkabout in search of a missing kite&nbsp; . . .<br><br>I heard Mal's QSO with GM4SLV earlier today but didn't register any trace of John 'SLV unfortunately.<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>Dave Sergeant &lt;dave@davesergeant.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On 21 Jul 2007 at 2:36, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:<br><br>&gt; There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable <br>&gt; again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.<br><br>Colin (or Geoff) was on 502 a few minutes ago, S9 plus. Gave him a <br>couple of calls but no response. GW4HXO and GI4DPE in QSO on that <br>frequency at the moment, each peaking 539 with QSB.<br><br>I might have convinced myself that I heard traces of GM4SLV earlier
 <br>during his QSO with Mal, but maybe that was wishful thinking - you <br>can read anything out of white noise when you want...<br><br>73 Dave G3YMC<br><br>http://www.davesergeant.com<br><br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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On 21 Jul 2007 at 2:36, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable 
> again on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.

Colin (or Geoff) was on 502 a few minutes ago, S9 plus. Gave him a 
couple of calls but no response. GW4HXO and GI4DPE in QSO on that 
frequency at the moment, each peaking 539 with QSB.

I might have convinced myself that I heard traces of GM4SLV earlier 
during his QSO with Mal, but maybe that was wishful thinking - you 
can read anything out of white noise when you want...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Sounds good - BTW, I have a Spitfire [IV 1974].
72.5, Rog.
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 08:39:21 GMT Standard Time, =
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  [ ... ]

  >Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the=20
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  When I was experimenting /P with 73 kHz I was required, when giving =
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surface.  Something tells me none of the inspectors was a caver.

  73
  John G3PAI/F5VLF




We are ready for an inspection either way John. I mean we have a least =
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73

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On 21 Jul 2007 at 3:52, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> I hope you've got your calibrated Field Strength Meter handy  to
> demonstrate that you're below 0.1dBW!

I look forward to listening/working? Colin later.

Just redone my erp/antenna current measurements. Using the most 
optimistic parameters erp is 5mW and an antenna current of 200mA. I 
doubt many field strength meters would even measure it.... my log 
book (and lack of contacts in it...) is probably enough evidence that 
I am not exceeding the 100mW...

73 Dave G3YMC

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In a message dated 21/07/2007 08:39:21 GMT Standard Time,  
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On  21/07/2007 at 02:36 G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

[ ... ]

>Having  given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the 
>inspector  
>if he calls.
When I was experimenting /P with 73 kHz I was  required, when giving prior 
warning, to say whether I would be working  underground or on the surface.  
Something tells me none of the inspectors  was a caver.

73
John  G3PAI/F5VLF






We are ready for an inspection either way John. I mean we have a least two  
bottles of 'Spitfire' and some peanut butter!
 
73
 
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In a message dated 21/07/2007 08:16:38 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On Sat,  21 Jul 2007 02:36:58 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:


> Having given  Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the
> inspector if he  calls.
>  
> 73
>  
> Colin G3VTT and Geoff  G3YVF


I hope you've got your calibrated Field Strength Meter handy  to
demonstrate that you're below 0.1dBW!


I'm just about to start  tuning my antenna and should be on the air in
the next hour or so - hope to  manage a daytime QSO!

Cheers,

John  GM4SLV





OK John we will be listening. The biggest problem down here in North Kent  is 
keeping the local MW BC transmitter out of the receiver. A QSO is possible  
tonight if conditions allow.
 
BTW, we certainly will be at the 100mW ERP level. I suspect we have better  
test equipment on site than he can lug over the fences! I've just picked the 
key  up from the farmer and am sitting typing with it around my neck. Must  
dash....
 
72
 
Colin G3VTT



   

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<DIV>OK John we will be listening. The biggest problem down here in North Ke=
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 key=20
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<DIV>72</DIV>
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On 21/07/2007 at 02:36 G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

[ ... ]

>Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the 
>inspector 
>if he calls.
When I was experimenting /P with 73 kHz I was required, when giving prior=
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  Something tells me none of the inspectors was a caver.

73
John G3PAI/F5VLF





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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:36:58 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:


> Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the
> inspector if he calls.
>  
> 73
>  
> Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF


I hope you've got your calibrated Field Strength Meter handy to
demonstrate that you're below 0.1dBW!


I'm just about to start tuning my antenna and should be on the air in
the next hour or so - hope to manage a daytime QSO!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV



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Hi All,
 
There appears to be some wind today down here so we will be portable  again 
on 502 for as long as we can keep the kite up.
 
Hopefully the wind will be stronger tonight and allow some dusk or dark  
operations. Failing that I'll revert to 80/30m with the K1 and a loop  antenna.
 
Having given Ofcom the NGR we'll keep the coffee pot warm for the  inspector 
if he calls.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT and Geoff G3YVF



   

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Tks om - that sounds great.
I like your new website.
Rog.

----- Original Message -----=20
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On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 12:35 +0100, Gw3UEP wrote:
> Bob,
> Mini tx info...
> At 12.00Vdc, 6W o/p, Is ~700mA.
> At 19Vdc, 19W o/p, PA eff'y ~80%.
> Will send you an up-dated schematic.
> Good luck with NoV app'n.
> Rog.
> =20
> =20

Thanks Roger,

Wow! this mini TX is a nifty little blighter and it's not as though it
breaks the bank on components.  It is small enough to get into the same
case as my Softrock Lite making a compact 500kHz tx/rx.=20

Bob GW3LTX


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks om - that sounds =
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On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 12:35 +0100, Gw3UEP wrote:
> Bob,
> Mini tx info...
> At 12.00Vdc, 6W o/p, Is ~700mA.
> At 19Vdc, 19W o/p, PA eff'y ~80%.
> Will send you an up-dated schematic.
> Good luck with NoV app'n.
> Rog.
>  
>  

Thanks Roger,

Wow! this mini TX is a nifty little blighter and it's not as though it
breaks the bank on components.  It is small enough to get into the same
case as my Softrock Lite making a compact 500kHz tx/rx. 

Bob GW3LTX



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Bob,
Mini tx info...
At 12.00Vdc, 6W o/p, Is ~700mA.
At 19Vdc, 19W o/p, PA eff'y ~80%.
Will send you an up-dated schematic.
Good luck with NoV app'n.
Rog.


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Hi Dave, LF,

Nothing changed here, still 1 mW ERP, I have noticed fading on Dave's 
grabber but signal always there.

I will be QRT from about 2315 local time.

Thanks for reports.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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> Hi, Gary.
>
> "O" copy now. Are you still running 1 mW, or have you QRO'd?
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> Hi Dave, LF,
>
> Well I am quite amazed, I was really surprised when I saw it show up on
> Dave's (G3YXM)  grabber.
> The PA DC input is 2.5 watts (2.5 volts at 1A) the antenna current is 
> about
> 0.05 A
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> Distance to you is about 274 kms.
>
> Thanks for your report.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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>
>
>> Hi Gary, LF.
>>
>> I can see your signal...it's only about "T" copy, but it's definitely
>> there.
>> I'll keep watching and see if it improves as darkness falls.
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
>> Sent: 20 July 2007 20:46
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>>
>>
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on
>> 503.600 KHz at QRP level
>> ie. 1 mW ERP
>>
>> Reports will be most welcome.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 



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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:21:23 +0100
"Martin Evans" <books@mollies.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> > Running RTTY beacon on 503.600 KHz, 23 Hz shift, 45.5 Bd,  50 mW
> > ERP. Transmitting message then 10 seconds receive mode.
> > 
> > Reports welcome but a copy of the message would be very beneficial.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 
> 
> Good strong trace and clearly audible in Swansea, IO81CR, Gary.
> 
> Martin GW3UCJ.
> 
> 

Just visible on w/fall and audible in the static here in Shetland now
Gary. Doubt it would decode though!

Cheers,

John, GM4SLV, Shetland


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> Running RTTY beacon on 503.600 KHz, 23 Hz shift, 45.5 Bd,  50 mW ERP. 
> Transmitting message then 10 seconds receive mode.
> 
> Reports welcome but a copy of the message would be very beneficial.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 

Good strong trace and clearly audible in Swansea, IO81CR, Gary.

Martin GW3UCJ.



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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:01:50 +0100
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear Gary, LF Group,
> 
> So that's what it is - weakly audible here in IO91VR
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>

Just had a look/listen myself - nothing seen, but looking at Dave
'YXM's grabber at 

http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/136.jpg

shows something on 503.6 I take it that's you Gary?

Disappointingly nothing seen there on 503.4!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV IP90gg, Shetland


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Dear Gary, LF Group,

So that's what it is - weakly audible here in IO91VR

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Hi LF,
> 
> Running RTTY beacon on 503.600 KHz, 23 Hz shift, 45.5 Bd,  50 mW ERP. 
> Transmitting message then 10 seconds receive mode.
> 
> Reports welcome but a copy of the message would be very beneficial.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 
> 
> 
> 


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Hi LF,

Running RTTY beacon on 503.600 KHz, 23 Hz shift, 45.5 Bd,  50 mW ERP. 
Transmitting message then 10 seconds receive mode.

Reports welcome but a copy of the message would be very beneficial.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Hi Lubomir,

Ok.... maybe a few seconds too early, because I am just *uploading* 
SpecLab again with a special configuration dedicated for listening to 
500 kHz with a 12 Hz wide audio filter. Sounds a bit funny (more like 
"huuuh-huh-huh" instead of "daaa-di-dit"), but it allows to separate 
SM6BHZ, DI2AG, and DI2BE when *listening* to them in real-time.

Even M0BMU is partially audible with that filter.

Cheers / GN ,
  Wolf .

Lubom�r Bobal�k schrieb:
> Hello Wolf!
> All is OK, I just downloaded new version of SpecLab and I am going to
> try it. THANKS YOU VERY MUCH!
> I will give you some informations about my experiments.
>
> 73 and GN!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG



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Hello Wolf!
All is OK, I just downloaded new version of SpecLab and I am going to
try it. THANKS YOU VERY MUCH!
I will give you some informations about my experiments.

73 and GN!

Lubos, OK2BVG

************************************************************************
**


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang
B=FCscher
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500: DI2BE frequency and ERP at the moment ?

Hello Lubomir,

The SDR-IQ (and SDR-14) support is implemented since V2.7 b19, which is=20
available on my website (even though it's still under "heavy=20
development", since I soon need those functions in a radio astronomy=20
project - but that's another story). So I upload it quite frequently=20
without changing the version number. The latest version is here:
http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/spectra1.html

The only "external" software defined radios which do *not* require a=20
soundcard for reception are SDR-IQ and SDR-14 (by RFSPACE), it has=20
nothing to do with SDradio. The reason for the direct support of SDR-IQ=20
was that I needed to **eliminate** the soundcard as "input source" for=20
the radio astronomy application, because of the heavy "baseband QRM" at=20
the telescope's site which affects the soundcard, but not the SDR-IQ=20
because it digitizes the RF signal directly (with an A/D converter=20
running at 66.6 MSamples/second) before the downconversion.

Best regards,
  Wolf .

Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk schrieb:
> Hello Wolf!
> It is very interesting, you have new version of Spectrum Lab with
> possibility directly connection on SDRadio. Is it any chance to get
this
> new program? I use SpectrumLab V2.6 b 3 now.=20
> The capture has been taken by my home made SDRadio + pragram Winrad +
> Spectrum Lab. I use two sound cards in my PC.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang
> B=FCscher
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:12 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500: DI2BE frequency and ERP at the moment ?
>
> Hello Geri,
>
> Thanks for the info. Yes, DI2BO positively identified here, though not

> as strong as DI2BE on 505.12 and SM6BHZ on 505.1 . DI2AG on 505.09 kHz

> also visible at times, but with deep QSB. All seen around 19:00 UTC.
> Receiver : Spectrum Lab, directly connected to an SDR-IQ, running at
196
>
> kHz sampling rate.
> Antenna : Shortwave attic dipole, not matched. Works better than an=20
> active antenna on the workbench, because the PC's power supply causes
a=20
> lot of QRM near 500 kHz.
>
> Cheers,
>   Wolf DL4YHF .
>
>
>
> Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb:
>  =20
>> Wolf,
>>
>>  =20
>> DI2BO in JO52BH is still up and running continously on 505.015 kHz in
>>    =20
> QRSS3
>  =20
>> and 6 WPM CW. ERP is 1.7 mW(!)
>>
>> Best 73
>>
>> Geri, DK8KW/DI2BO
>>
>>  =20
>>    =20
>
>
> __________ Informace od NOD32 2414 (20070723) __________
>
> Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32.
> http://www.nod32.cz
>
>  =20
>
>
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>


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Hi All
Condx on 500 have been above average recently and I could hear GW3UEP, who I
normally do not hear, also G0NBD for the first time.
The vy wet WX must be enhancing our earthing systems and contributing to
propagated signals, similar to a sea path.
When it all dries up it will be back to normal.
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----- Original Message -----=20
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> dl2hre schrieb:
>> good morning LF.
>>  i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
>> any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
>> reports most welcome.
>>  loc. jo51tq
>>  Ed DL2HRE
>>
> Hi Edgar,
>
> I will be on a bit later, from DK4U (alias DF0WD). But that woudn't be =
an=20
> impressive distance for your new antenna, right ? ;-)
> Anyway, CUL,
>  73, Wolf .
>
> JO42FD .
>
> P.S. VHF'ers beware: sporadic-E opening to UA3 is on its way.

Hallo Wolfgang.

best dx on 2m.
i will be on any later. tu.

73 Edgar=20



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dl2hre schrieb:
> good morning LF.
>  
> i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
> any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
> reports most welcome.
>  
> loc. jo51tq
>  
> Ed DL2HRE
>  
Hi Edgar,

I will be on a bit later, from DK4U (alias DF0WD). But that woudn't be 
an impressive distance for your new antenna, right ? ;-)
Anyway, CUL,
  73, Wolf .

JO42FD .

P.S. VHF'ers beware: sporadic-E opening to UA3 is on its way.


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good morning LF.

i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
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The problem is, I think, that a pullover in variometer's wire is more =
colder than a running LF amplifier in  winter!  :0)
(Thanks a lot for nice picture Mike)=20
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Nice variometer & LF loop !!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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> Last week I was on Kizhi Island in Karelia, northern Russia. In an 
> old farmhouse museum, I took the picture at:
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf/flax.jpg
> 
> I was told it was all about processing flax, but take a look and see 
> what you think . . .
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
> (currently off air)
> ============
> 
> 
>


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Hi Mike I suppose when you asked the frequency they didn't even blink but
replied "Oh, once a year unless the weather is bad"
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 12 July 2007 19:08
Subject: LF: Old Russian LF?


> Last week I was on Kizhi Island in Karelia, northern Russia. In an
> old farmhouse museum, I took the picture at:
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf/flax.jpg
>
> I was told it was all about processing flax, but take a look and see
> what you think . . .
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> (currently off air)
> ============
>
>



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On 27 Jul 2007 at 4:53, G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

> Output ERP is apx 2.5mW

Gosh, if that was the full 100mW you would be LOUD. 589 in Bracknell, 
though that is not very far from you....

By the way I am adding a list of stations worked to my activity page 
(not worked you yet David...).  The one thing I seem to be lacking is 
QRA locators, would be pleased if people would let me have them.

73 Dave G3YMC (IO91PJ)

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Dear all.
 
Thank you for the various reports sent direct and in messages via the  
reflector. Harmut's report from 763km is quite astounding.
 
 
The DDS driving the beacon is set to 503.700 and a quick check with a  
frequency counter confirms the frequency as 503.701 to 503.702. I've not  checked 
against an off-air standard. 
503.700 is just too high to appear on the G3YXM grabber as it's off the  edge 
of the filters. A quick retune from here shows it makes the distance most  of 
the time.
 
The beacon sends CW QRS3 and PSK31 messages.  Two local stations Dave  G3WCB 
and Derek G3HEJ have decoded the PSK and kindly sent Argo screen captures  
showing a small time period where the transmitter is generating 'artefacts' at  
harmonics of the 15.625Hz  PSK data rate.
 
Looking at the captures shows the offending period to be caused by the  
transmission of the continuous period of phase reversals just before the PSK31  
data.  These phase reversals are used to lock the receivers decoder prior  to 
sending the PSK31 message. The transmitted spectrum appears to be double  
sideband supressed carrier. - i.e. all the energy is transmitted in the  sidebands. 
Hence the 'interesting' Argo pics.  The beacon has  been sending 9 seconds of 
phase reversals followed by 14 seconds of PSK31  data.   It's currently off-air 
so I can reprogram the  microcontroller and reduce this to about 1.5 seconds, 
this will minimise the  generation of sidebands. (I'm also adding a key 
input!)
 
Output ERP is apx 2.5mW.
 
I've tried to send a URL for the beacon on a few occasions, but it seems to  
be blocked by AOL or blacksheep.  Anyway, if you know my website it's  listed 
on the index page. If you don't then it is g0mrf freeserve co uk   followed by 
500k beacon htm (a few spaces need to be removed and dots added  !)
 
 
73
 
David




   

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:44:57 +0100
"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> 503.600 KHz, sending G4WGT (qrss03), 6wpm CW ID, 5 minute intervals.
> 
> Reports welcome.


Hi Gary, LF

Nothing seen here, but there's a horrendous amount of lightning static
around raising the noise floor considerably.

I'm even having trouble copying Finbar GI4DPE on 503.350 now, despite
seeing him all day while he varied TX power down to 500mW.

XYL just turned TV on so lots of timebase whistles too.
IF filter & passband tuning set to cover 502.5 - 504 to keep out the
worst of it.

My grabber still active at

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

New image every 5 minutes if you want to check for yourself. I will
probably be out of the shack for most of the evening but will keep an
eye in the grabber from the laptop in the sitting room.

John

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Hi All,

Finally had the garage roof replaced (had to employ a different roofer due 
to false & broken promises).

I am currently testing re-erected & hopefully improved antenna in my small 
garden. Consists of 12 mtrs vertical, elevated inductance & small top 
capacity hat.

503.600 KHz, sending G4WGT (qrss03), 6wpm CW ID, 5 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Hi all

I would support the idea that the more the better. We need at least two in
case one folds up and leaves us poor 500 souls high and dry, but then again
do we need any at all. How did we manage for years without any and work dx
galore, the dx cluster is another we could do without, it encourages a qrm
pile up, even those who cannot hear the dx call anyway !!!!!
My idea would be one for each mode and suggest this present one stick to CW
500 acty only, then have one for each of the other modes.
QRS 200, RTTY, ELEPHANT DEC MODE ETC. I hope you get the point !!!!!!!!
Diversity is the in thing.
de G3KEV




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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:17:21 +0100
Brian <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:

> John GM4SLV wrote:
> > At last...
> >
> > Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
> > ~0.4A RF to the antenna
> >
> > Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with
> > new ATU?
> >
> > Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW
> >
> > John GM4SLV
> >
> >   
> Congratulations on getting going  John.
> Unfortunately nothing heard here on Dunnet Head.
> Vy bad static.
> 73's Brian gm4jyb
> 
> 
I think tonight's not the night!

Will QRT now until tomorrow.

Thanks for looking. 

Cheers,
John

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John GM4SLV wrote:
> At last...
>
> Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
> ~0.4A RF to the antenna
>
> Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with new
> ATU?
>
> Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW
>
> John GM4SLV
>
>   
Congratulations on getting going  John.
Unfortunately nothing heard here on Dunnet Head.
Vy bad static.
73's Brian gm4jyb


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In a message dated 19/07/2007 23:04:09 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On Thu,  19 Jul 2007 17:52:05 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Nothing down here  in the south John although the static is fierce.
> Bad storms tonight  coming up from France. Will keep and ear open. I
> transmit rock bound  on 502.2 but always tune the band. GL
>  
> 73
>   
> Colin G3VTT


Thanks for listening Colin. Glad (if that's  the right word) that your
suffering from static too, shows it's not  somehting I've changed here.
The band was quiet earlier. I heard very  strong sigs from G3KEV, but
hadn't got the antenna sorted and had lots of  other stuff to do first.

Got it roughly tuned at 2215 BST (the benefits  of long days up here in
summer) and found the band full of noise (as well  as XYL's QRM
generating goggelbox).

Currently sneding QRSS-3 on  502.5 since with state of the band I think
I might struggle to work CW, but  a report of my QRSS from anywhere
would at least be a  start!

John





Nil here John at 2210z. I am working /p on Saturday on 500Khz and, wind  
permitting, may get the kite antenna up and give you a reasonable signal.
 
All the best for now.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT



   

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:52:05 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Nothing down here in the south John although the static is fierce.
> Bad storms tonight coming up from France. Will keep and ear open. I
> transmit rock bound on 502.2 but always tune the band. GL
>  
> 73
>  
> Colin G3VTT


Thanks for listening Colin. Glad (if that's the right word) that your
suffering from static too, shows it's not somehting I've changed here.
The band was quiet earlier. I heard very strong sigs from G3KEV, but
hadn't got the antenna sorted and had lots of other stuff to do first.

Got it roughly tuned at 2215 BST (the benefits of long days up here in
summer) and found the band full of noise (as well as XYL's QRM
generating goggelbox).

Currently sneding QRSS-3 on 502.5 since with state of the band I think
I might struggle to work CW, but a report of my QRSS from anywhere
would at least be a start!

John
 


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In a message dated 19/07/2007 22:42:31 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

At  last...

Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay  and
~0.4A RF to the antenna

Seems to be a lot of static around - or  is it something to do with new
ATU?

Anyway - I'm calling now 2141  UTC on 502.5 CW

John GM4SLV

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Nothing down here in the south John although the static is fierce. Bad  
storms tonight coming up from France. Will keep and ear open. I transmit rock  
bound on 502.2 but always tune the band. GL
 
73
 
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At last...

Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
~0.4A RF to the antenna

Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with new
ATU?

Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW

John GM4SLV

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Ankara, Budapest and DCF39 were good audible levels this morning on a 
Singapore pre dawn. Some whizz bangs from not so local tstorms. No one seen 
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Woke up and just got this as Im preparing for work Laurie (groan) - thanks 
for the signal - if you can manage again tomorrow night Ill leave the rx on 
your freq and take a longer run at it.

At 1 hour before my sun rise DCF39 is at S7 to 8 and Budapest is about the 
same. Ankara is off, nope its just back on again...QRN is pretty high this 
morning - Ill leave the rx running

Im also getting very faint "somethings" on 505.150....but I cant exactly 
guarantee cal within a Hz on this freq at the moment (oh I miss my test 
equipment)

The Eu window is slowly getting better as is central/east Americas as the 
seasons change.

If the signals are as strong and the s/n as good as Ive seen this bodes well 
for the upcoming northern autumn and winter. Im only here for a year 
unfortunately and then by the looks of it returning to a new Location up the 
road a bit in Northern China...

Sorry about your rain UK

Laurence 9V1 LF
grabbers on http://kl1x.com
2 x R75 + SDR-IQ plus eprobe at around 70ft (must dangle a string and see 
how high it really is above ground....)



>17:22:56 +0100
>
>Having burnt the bugs out of the 137kHz loading coil this afternoon
>I will run a beacon signal this evening, QRSS60 on 137.699kHz
>from about 20:00 utc until I need to go to bed ! Ant. current 5.8A
>so not too bad, 0.9-1.0 W erp.
>
>All reports welcome.
>
>73 Laurie G3AQC

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Hi Dave.

Tu for that nice capture. i am glad, that ant. works on LF.
it is a new loop ant for 160m, 20m up with vertical segments. power was =
200watts tx output. for LF the loop is open on there end. the coil is =
any bigger now than before.

see U on LF!
73 Ed DL2HRE

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:52 AM
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  Dear Ed, LF

  Your signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely =
stronger than previously...I don't usually see your signals very well =
during the day in summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!

  Screenshot attached.

  I am using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM =
IC-PCR1000

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
    -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of dl2hre
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    good morning LF.

    i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in dfcw3 with new ant.
    any time for qso? you will be the first with that ant.
    reports most welcome.

    loc. jo51tq=20

    Ed DL2HRE

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dave.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tu for that nice capture. i am glad, =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it is a new loop ant for 160m, 20m up =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see U on LF!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Ed DL2HRE</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: just qrv 137.7 -=20
report</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Dear=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
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  signals are "O" copy here this morning. They are definitely stronger =
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  summertime. Your new antenna must be working well!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Screenshot attached.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am=20
  using a 1.2m tuned loop on receive, with my regular ICOM=20
  IC-PCR1000</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D291474508-21072007><FONT face=3DArial =
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    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: just qrv=20
    137.7<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good morning LF.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i am just qrv on 137.680KHz in =
dfcw3 with new=20
    ant.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any time for qso? you will be the =
first with=20
    that ant.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reports most welcome.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ed DL2HRE</FONT></DIV>
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:59:54 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Jul 2007 at 7:32, John GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > Can Audacity be used to record sound at the same time as
> > SpecLab/Spectran/Argo have the single internal PC soundcard in use? 

> Yes they can. Just did an Audacity recording of G0MRF while at the 
> same time displaying his signal (or any other one for that matter) on 
> Argo. Both carried on doing their job just as you would expect. Both 
> working on the same line input signal fed from the K2 audio.


That's good news Dave! I'd never have guess that would work, I've seen
so many things that refuse to share soundcards. I'll give it a try
myself - would be useful now the I-River is starting (very recently)
to play up.

Thanks for testing it. 

Cheers,

John 


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On 26 Jul 2007 at 7:32, John GM4SLV wrote:

> Can Audacity be used to record sound at the same time as
> SpecLab/Spectran/Argo have the single internal PC soundcard in use? 
> 
> I suspect not, so I'll have to stick with my current hardware recorder
> to take sound samples and let the PC sit there doing its own job.

Yes they can. Just did an Audacity recording of G0MRF while at the 
same time displaying his signal (or any other one for that matter) on 
Argo. Both carried on doing their job just as you would expect. Both 
working on the same line input signal fed from the K2 audio.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:42:22 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 26 Jul 2007 at 2:01, John GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > I have a sound recording but my mp3 player/recorder is refusing to
> > talk USB to the PC at the moment...perhaps I'll be able to extract
> > it tomorrow.
> 
> Why use an mp3 player? Your pc is quite capable of playing mp3 files 
> all by itself. I use Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com) for 
> virtually everything these days, you need to download its plugins as 
> well. Windows Media Player will also do the job but I am no great fan 
> of that MS program. For recording I use Audacity (do a google), you 
> need to download its mp3 plugin seperately for licence reasons.
> 
> Note also that it you want to listen to the mp3's on my site you 
> should download them to your hard drive rather than playing them 
> online. Media Player in particular gets all upset about security if 
> you try and play them online.
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> 73 Dave G3YMC
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> 
> 
 
Hello Dave,

Thanks for the info. I already understand all your advice, but use a
different route for recording sound, for various reasons.

I use an MP3 "player" (an I-River H120, running "Rockbox" firmware) to
RECORD, directly encoding to either MP3/WAV/FLAC, so I can record stuff
without the inconvenience of needing to use the PC, just by plugging it
into the headphone socket of the RX. This is often just to collect
things for my own listening, so I don't need to involve a PC, as the
files aren't going anywhere other than back into my ears - HI! 

I can quite happily play MP3 or whatever files from the PC as you
describe. My main "user" machine here is a Linux box and also has
plenty of free software for playing audio. 

The only windows box is the one running SpecLab/Argo/W.H.Y for the
grabber - as these programs are well understood by the majority of
people here, so I'd rather run them for QRSS/weak signal detection than
use a Linux QRSS package.

I've used Audacity in the past (the Linux version) and know of it's
usefulness. I do still use it occasionally for editing.

My problem last night with Rog's recording revolved around a recently
developing hardware fault in the I-River which manifests itself as an
unwillingness to connect its own hard-drive out through the USB port!

I did eventually get it to work, and sent Rog the sound file!

Can Audacity be used to record sound at the same time as
SpecLab/Spectran/Argo have the single internal PC soundcard in use? 

I suspect not, so I'll have to stick with my current hardware recorder
to take sound samples and let the PC sit there doing its own job.

I could feed another audio path from the AR7030 (it has 2 independant,
seperately adjustable AUX audio outputs) into the second machine (this
Linux box) and record with Audacity if I need to.

I don't want to precipitate any Linux/Windows/Mac discussions
please, the net is too full of them as it is... we're just talking about
how to get sound from RX to email/websites and back again... all
platforms are equally as capable... 

Cheers,

John


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On 26 Jul 2007 at 2:01, John GM4SLV wrote:

> I have a sound recording but my mp3 player/recorder is refusing to
> talk USB to the PC at the moment...perhaps I'll be able to extract it
> tomorrow.

Why use an mp3 player? Your pc is quite capable of playing mp3 files 
all by itself. I use Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com) for 
virtually everything these days, you need to download its plugins as 
well. Windows Media Player will also do the job but I am no great fan 
of that MS program. For recording I use Audacity (do a google), you 
need to download its mp3 plugin seperately for licence reasons.

Note also that it you want to listen to the mp3's on my site you 
should download them to your hard drive rather than playing them 
online. Media Player in particular gets all upset about security if 
you try and play them online.

73 Dave G3YMC

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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:57:09 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Roger UEP,
>  
> A good signal tonight 2215z, peaking 569. Get that key out tomorrow!!
>  
> 73
>  
> Colin G3VTT
> 
> 
> 
>    
Rog, it's about 549 up here at 0100 UTC. Easily good enough for a
straight CW QSO to Shetland. The secret is using the darkness...!

I have a sound recording but my mp3 player/recorder is refusing to talk
USB to the PC at the moment...perhaps I'll be able to extract it
tomorrow.

Cheers,

John


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testing just new ant.
qrg 137.680KHz
dfcw3
test ending at 2000utc

loc. jo51tq=20
 reports most welcome

Ed DL2HRE
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Hi, John, LF

I've ceased beacon transmission now. Everything held up OK overnight, and it
will be interesting to see how the propagation varied overnight, and how the
path from Dave YXM compared with the the path from this location.

I can still hear the YXM beacon transmission, but there are now quite a lot
of static crashes

I'm off to the McMichael Rally today (to buy some more bits!) so I won't be
around until this evening.

Thanks for posting the grabs on your web-site!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:48:57 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Very interesting.
>
> There were some deep fades, presumably as the path went from daytime
> to night-time conditions. One might expect the signals to become more
> steady throughout the night, with a similar perturbation occuring
> around dawn.
>
> Everything seems to be running smoothly here, so I will continue with
> this beacon transmission until around 0730 UTC tomorrow.
>


Yes, you all seem to have settled into "quite strong". There's still
some fading, but not enough to remove anyone from the screen. I've even
turned off the front end 10dB pre-amp, and no discernable drop in s/n
on the waterfall, which isn't the case during the day!

I can copy the CW idents by ear over the loudspeaker.

I also had a quick detour at 2200 UTC to listen for G3VTT on 502 using
straight CW. - heard him too, weak but readable!


I'll keep my "grabber" running, uploading the latest screenfull to
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg overnight too.

I'm also uploading each 5 minute capture seperately into

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/

They're sequentially numbered and Spectran puts a visible timestamp so
you can tell when it was taken.

Well done all!

Cheers,

John


--
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Member : RSGB, ARRL
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:48:57 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Very interesting.
> 
> There were some deep fades, presumably as the path went from daytime
> to night-time conditions. One might expect the signals to become more
> steady throughout the night, with a similar perturbation occuring
> around dawn.
> 
> Everything seems to be running smoothly here, so I will continue with
> this beacon transmission until around 0730 UTC tomorrow.
> 


Yes, you all seem to have settled into "quite strong". There's still
some fading, but not enough to remove anyone from the screen. I've even
turned off the front end 10dB pre-amp, and no discernable drop in s/n
on the waterfall, which isn't the case during the day!

I can copy the CW idents by ear over the loudspeaker.

I also had a quick detour at 2200 UTC to listen for G3VTT on 502 using
straight CW. - heard him too, weak but readable!


I'll keep my "grabber" running, uploading the latest screenfull to
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg overnight too.

I'm also uploading each 5 minute capture seperately into 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/

They're sequentially numbered and Spectran puts a visible timestamp so
you can tell when it was taken.

Well done all!

Cheers,

John


-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Very interesting.

There were some deep fades, presumably as the path went from daytime to
night-time conditions. One might expect the signals to become more steady
throughout the night, with a similar perturbation occuring around dawn.

Everything seems to be running smoothly here, so I will continue with this
beacon transmission until around 0730 UTC tomorrow.

Thanks to John, Hartmut, Roelof and Victor for the reports, and for Ko for
running his grabber.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick
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  Hmm,
  Quite a lot of QSB on the longer paths isn't there?
  Thanks to John and everyone putting up grabs, most exciting!

  Dave 'YXM


  On 14/07/07, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
    Hi, John

    It's like bees around a honeypot!

    Ko NL9222 is running his grabber tonight, also. You can see Jim M0BMU,
G3YXM
    and myself.

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/grabber.htm

    73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

    -----Original Message-----
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    [mailto: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John GM4SLV
    Sent: 14 July 2007 21:24
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: Re: LF: [500] Path to Shetland - G3WCB



    Hi all,

    Now seeing M0BMU on ~503.508 or thereabouts.

    940km

    http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg

    Cheers,

    John


    --
    G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
    Member : RSGB, ARRL
    Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
    Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org








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Hi, John

It's like bees around a honeypot!

Ko NL9222 is running his grabber tonight, also. You can see Jim M0BMU, G3YXM
and myself.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/grabber.htm

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi all,

Now seeing M0BMU on ~503.508 or thereabouts.

940km

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg

Cheers,

John


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Hi all,

Now seeing M0BMU on ~503.508 or thereabouts.

940km

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg

Cheers,

John


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Member : RSGB, ARRL
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Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:20:19 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi John, Dave, LF
> 
> I'm now sending QRSS3 on 503.485 (note the change of frequency), at
> least until 2300utc and possibly all night if I'm feeling brave.
> 
> I'll be monitoring the Reflector until 2300 utc
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 


Hi LF gang,

I've got Spectran saving screen captures every 5 minutes to my Linux
machine (the one I use for everything other than 500kHz monitoring) and
have written a small script to upload the current one to my website
every 3 minutes.

You can see the latest one here :-

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_cap.jpg


Currently 'YXM just visible. 'WCB comes and goes, but is never really
readable.

Will keep watching...while I have a massive shack tidying session!

Cheers,
John 'SLV

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Hi John, Dave, LF

I'm now sending QRSS3 on 503.485 (note the change of frequency), at least
until 2300utc and possibly all night if I'm feeling brave.

I'll be monitoring the Reflector until 2300 utc

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: Path to Shetland


On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:47:41 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Alan.
>
> I'll leave the beacon on this evening until bed-time on QRS3
> Frequency is 503.5 and I suggest if John is back from the shops and
> wants to run Argo on the frequency, that any other stations snuggle
> up nice and close!
>
> BTW. Who's that swishing around the band?
>


Hi Dave etc.

I'm monitoring now, and will continue to do so all night.

I'm looking at 503.5 +/- 50Hz with SpecLab in QRSS-3 mode. I'll leave it
running all night. I'll be in or around the shack for the rest of the
day until I fall asleep in the chair!

Currently seeing something on 503.5, guess it's 'YXM, but not
really  readable yet.

Should be interesting to see what pops in and out as the sky darkens.
Now we're nearly a month past the solstice it does get dark between
2300 and 0200 local.


Regards,

John 'SLV



> Dave.
>
> On 14/07/07, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave (and Dave !) Interesting that there seems little fading but
> > I am not
> > really surprised, I guess being daylight the lower ionosphere is
> > fairly well
> > ionised and doing all the reflections. What I would be very
> > interested to see on a path of nearly 100km is whether the
> > night-time signals suffer significant fading at this range.
>
>
>


--
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Member : RSGB, ARRL
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Tnx Dmitry

 

All the best 73s

 

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Strong signal but who is this?

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:09:38 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Very good John.
> 
> I switched off the beacon at 0830 local. Seems as if the best copy
> you had was around 2230 (utc?/local?) 

Hello Dave, LF

Yes there was a period around that time when all 3 of your were strong
and stable. The times on the screenshots are in UTC (the radio PC is
set to UTC to eliminate doubt!)

It's only really dark here between 2200z and 0200z. It was getting
light, and signals were starting to fade, when I went to bed at 0300
BST.


> I guess that's when it got
> "dark" up there? Would be interested to see what happened around dawn.

I can send you a zip file for each hour (12 pics per file) if you want.
They're about 2MB each. (And anyone else that's interested).

> Finbar is good on my grabber <http://wireless.org.uk/grab/> too but
> can't hear him.

He's still readable by ear here. There are some nasty static crashes
spoiling things though.

my grabber is still running at 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

Cheers,

John



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Hi LF gang,

After last night's QRSS data collection I have 140 screen dumps of
M0BMU, G3YXM and G3WCB ending at around 0800 UTC this morning.

I can provide them to anyone who wants them, at present I've zipped
them up into one ZIP file, but it's 21MB! I will make seperate zipfiles
for each hour - with 12 captures in each.

Currently I'm uploading a capture of the full band 500-505.51 to 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

I'll set the time period for capture and upload to 5 minutes.

I see (and read by ear) Finbar GI4DPE on 503.25 and just now can see
another signal around 502.5 Can't quite read it among the huge static
crashes!

Cheers,

John


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Hi Laurie,

Many thanks ! And sincere apologies for this delayed response - too many =
non radio projects  :-(................

I also got sidetracked by building an Elecraft  KX1 for an upcoming =
holiday trip but that's all done now so it's back to  500khz .

I'll check out the SM0VPO design for sure.

Progress will be slow due to so much else going on but I am determined =
to get a signal out on 500 before too long.

Many thanks again !

73

Vic

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  Hi Vic,
  Re. Linear Amp, have a look at design by SM0VPO (Ten Watt Linear =
Amplifier )
  just Google, should find it.
  I use his basic design just put a few more turns on inductors.
  73 Hope see you on 500.
  Laurie G3AQC.



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Jim,

Thanks for link, nice program.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Dear LF Group,

I uste a program called QRBQTE which can be downloaded from:

http://www.kvalvaag.net/qrbqte/english.php

Make sure you download the "complete" version - you can probably ignore what 
it says about PKzip if you have an un-sipping utility on your PC anyway.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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  OK - thanks fellas. I'll investigate how to do this myself.

  72

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In a message dated 15/07/2007 17:25:46 GMT Standard Time,  
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On Sun,  15 Jul 2007 16:57:11 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>  wrote:

> On 15 Jul 2007 at 11:37, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:
>  
> > Can somebody calculate for me at ME3 8TJ.
> 
> Not  sure if I am going to do it for everybody....
> 
> ME3 8TJ  corresponds to TQ783759 which is JO01GK
> 89km from me in IO91PJ, 232km  from G3DXZ in IO93MH


And a whopping 977 km from me in  IP90GG!

You get the distance award so far  Colin!

Cheers,

John


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OK - thanks fellas. I'll investigate how to do this myself.
 
72
 
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:57:11 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 15 Jul 2007 at 11:37, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Can somebody calculate for me at ME3 8TJ.
> 
> Not sure if I am going to do it for everybody....
> 
> ME3 8TJ corresponds to TQ783759 which is JO01GK
> 89km from me in IO91PJ, 232km from G3DXZ in IO93MH


And a whopping 977 km from me in IP90GG!

You get the distance award so far Colin!

Cheers,

John


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On 15 Jul 2007 at 11:37, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Can somebody calculate for me at ME3 8TJ.

Not sure if I am going to do it for everybody....

ME3 8TJ corresponds to TQ783759 which is JO01GK
89km from me in IO91PJ, 232km from G3DXZ in IO93MH

Note that using multimap.com to do the postcode to NGR is not spot 
on, you really need to find the NGR yourself from where you know your 
house is. And the calculations assume the centre of the Maidenhead 
squares which is another possible error. I gather you can do distance 
measurements direct from Google Earth but not done it that way 
myself.

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In a message dated 15/07/2007 16:32:56 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

On Sun,  15 Jul 2007 16:21:17 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>  wrote:

> On 15 Jul 2007 at 16:05, John GM4SLV wrote:
>  
> > Have you a locator for him, interested in the distance.
>  
> QRZ.COM gives his postcode as DN22 6UF. From multimap.com that  
> corresponds to SK714819. G0GJV's Minos VHF contest logger 
>  (http://www.goodey.org.uk) calculates this to be IO93MH 
> 
>  216km from me in IO91PJ
> 
> The wonders of the  internet...
> 
> I must say I am impressed with his signal, just  shows what can be 
> done with a very small antenna. Now if only a few  more people could 
> here mine...
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>  
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 

Thanks  Dave,

My locator calculating engine makes it 764km from me, so I'm  quite
impressed too!

Is there a prize for "km per watt of  ERP"?

Cheers,

John

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI  12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG  
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org




Can somebody calculate for me at ME3 8TJ. The figure holds good for last  
night signals which were readable were they not John? I thought they sounded OK  
on the player. I've worked W's on top band sounding weaker than that using my  
'Stokes' filter too.
 
VTT



   

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<DIV>In a message dated 15/07/2007 16:32:56 GMT Standard Time,=20
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;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; On 15 Jul 2007 at 16:05, John GM4SLV wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; &gt; Have you a locator for him, interested in the distance.<BR>&=
gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; QRZ.COM gives his postcode as DN22 6UF. From multimap.com that=20
  <BR>&gt; corresponds to SK714819. G0GJV's Minos VHF contest logger <BR>&gt=
;=20
  (http://www.goodey.org.uk) calculates this to be IO93MH <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
  216km from me in IO91PJ<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The wonders of the=20
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  more people could <BR>&gt; here mine...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73 Dave G3YMC<BR>=
&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; http://www.davesergeant.com<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>Thanks=20
  Dave,<BR><BR>My locator calculating engine makes it 764km from me, so I'm=20
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  ERP"?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>-- <BR>G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI=20
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:21:17 +0100
"Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

> On 15 Jul 2007 at 16:05, John GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > Have you a locator for him, interested in the distance.
> 
> QRZ.COM gives his postcode as DN22 6UF. From multimap.com that 
> corresponds to SK714819. G0GJV's Minos VHF contest logger 
> (http://www.goodey.org.uk) calculates this to be IO93MH 
> 
> 216km from me in IO91PJ
> 
> The wonders of the internet...
> 
> I must say I am impressed with his signal, just shows what can be 
> done with a very small antenna. Now if only a few more people could 
> here mine...
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
> 
> 

Thanks Dave,

My locator calculating engine makes it 764km from me, so I'm quite
impressed too!

Is there a prize for "km per watt of ERP"?

Cheers,

John

-- 
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Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
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On 15 Jul 2007 at 16:05, John GM4SLV wrote:

> Have you a locator for him, interested in the distance.

QRZ.COM gives his postcode as DN22 6UF. From multimap.com that 
corresponds to SK714819. G0GJV's Minos VHF contest logger 
(http://www.goodey.org.uk) calculates this to be IO93MH 

216km from me in IO91PJ

The wonders of the internet...

I must say I am impressed with his signal, just shows what can be 
done with a very small antenna. Now if only a few more people could 
here mine...

73 Dave G3YMC

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:57:16 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Forgot to add that Chas G3DXZ is in Retford Notts and is using a
> 66ft  dipole at 30ft along with the CH system as a ground! 
>  
> 73
>  
> VTT


Well I've heard him a few times in daylight up here, so it must work.
Have you a locator for him, interested in the distance.

I see Finbar's just started up again on 503.43

Cheers,

John



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In a message dated 15/07/2007 15:34:17 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

Hi  gang,

Just heard G3DXZ (RST 2-3 2 9) working G3VTT on  502kHz

Colin 'VTT was just audible but not readable by ear, weak trace  on
waterfall.

G3DXZ was readable, with careful listening, between  the static crashes.
It was a ragchew - with no repeats - so I missed the  odd word but I'm
sure we could have exchanged name/QTH okay.

I must  build a narrow audio CW filter for listening using the AR7030,
as it's IF  filtering is a bit wide at 1.3kHz - not a problem for
adjacent channels,  but gives a too large a noise bandwidth.

Don't know where G3DXZ is, so  can't estimate distance, but nto bad for
daylight path to  Shetland.


Have been copying Finbar's CW beacon too all day until he  turned it off
sometime this afternoon.

Regards,

John  GM4SLV

-- 
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Member :  RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club :  http://www.gm3zet.org




Forgot to add that Chas G3DXZ is in Retford Notts and is using a 66ft  dipole 
at 30ft along with the CH system as a ground! 
 
73
 
VTT



   

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In a message dated 15/07/2007 15:34:17 GMT Standard Time,  
gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk writes:

Hi  gang,

Just heard G3DXZ (RST 2-3 2 9) working G3VTT on  502kHz

Colin 'VTT was just audible but not readable by ear, weak trace  on
waterfall.

G3DXZ was readable, with careful listening, between  the static crashes.
It was a ragchew - with no repeats - so I missed the  odd word but I'm
sure we could have exchanged name/QTH okay.

I must  build a narrow audio CW filter for listening using the AR7030,
as it's IF  filtering is a bit wide at 1.3kHz - not a problem for
adjacent channels,  but gives a too large a noise bandwidth.

Don't know where G3DXZ is, so  can't estimate distance, but nto bad for
daylight path to  Shetland.


Have been copying Finbar's CW beacon too all day until he  turned it off
sometime this afternoon.

Regards,

John  GM4SLV

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member :  RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club :  http://www.gm3zet.org




Stunned! - Thanks - Colin VTT (get that CW filter sorted  John!)



   

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I was listening to Colin and G3DXZ here in Bracknell. A short 
recording of G3DXZ has been added to my list of recordings at 
http://my.opera.com/davews/blog/ - according to QRZ.COM he is in 
Retford, Notts. Good 579 or so here between the static crashes.

The QSO was broken up when G4GDR started calling CQ right on top, 
obviously oblivious to the other two.

Was going to call but the static was coming up - right now we have 
one of those torrential downpours...

73 Dave G3YMC


On 15 Jul 2007 at 15:33, John GM4SLV wrote:

> Hi gang,
> 
> Just heard G3DXZ (RST 2-3 2 9) working G3VTT on 502kHz
> 
> Colin 'VTT was just audible but not readable by ear, weak trace on
> waterfall.
> 
> G3DXZ was readable, with careful listening, between the static
> crashes. It was a ragchew - with no repeats - so I missed the odd word
> but I'm sure we could have exchanged name/QTH okay.
> 
> I must build a narrow audio CW filter for listening using the AR7030,
> as it's IF filtering is a bit wide at 1.3kHz - not a problem for
> adjacent channels, but gives a too large a noise bandwidth.
> 
> Don't know where G3DXZ is, so can't estimate distance, but nto bad for
> daylight path to Shetland.
> 

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi gang,

Just heard G3DXZ (RST 2-3 2 9) working G3VTT on 502kHz

Colin 'VTT was just audible but not readable by ear, weak trace on
waterfall.

G3DXZ was readable, with careful listening, between the static crashes.
It was a ragchew - with no repeats - so I missed the odd word but I'm
sure we could have exchanged name/QTH okay.

I must build a narrow audio CW filter for listening using the AR7030,
as it's IF filtering is a bit wide at 1.3kHz - not a problem for
adjacent channels, but gives a too large a noise bandwidth.

Don't know where G3DXZ is, so can't estimate distance, but nto bad for
daylight path to Shetland.


Have been copying Finbar's CW beacon too all day until he turned it off
sometime this afternoon.

Regards,

John GM4SLV

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Hello Dave & Dave,

Attached is a crop selection of an ARGO screenshot taken today at 17:46 =
UTC.
The signal of Dave, G3YXM was 13 dB over my noise floor as received on =
my SPM-30 and micro-whip. The faster CW ID, visible as the blurr at the =
right side of the screenshot was a 100% aural copy with my 12 Hz wide =
audio filter.

The signal of Dave, G3WCB is 3 dB stronger.

Nice conditions at the moment with the better part of Europe static =
free!

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Dave &amp; Dave,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Attached is a crop selection of an ARGO =
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taken today at 17:46 UTC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal of Dave, G3YXM was 13 dB =
over my noise=20
floor as received on my SPM-30 and micro-whip. The faster CW ID, visible =
as the=20
blurr at the right side of the screenshot was a 100% aural copy =
with&nbsp;my 12=20
Hz wide audio filter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal of Dave, G3WCB is 3 dB=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice conditions at the moment with the =
better part=20
of Europe static free!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Middelburg, Netherlands,</FONT></DIV>
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What is the URL for the website mentioned in a Friday posting?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
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Zitat von hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:


>
> Deine ersten auf dem LF-Server angek=FCndigten Bakensendungen hatte ich
> nicht geh=F6rt. Hast Du jetzt eine h=F6here ERP?
>
> HW?
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>


Dear Ha-Jo,
during first TX tests some months ago the ERP was 0,51W, some weeks 
later until
ca first of July 8,1W ERP and now 2,14W ERP. I switched down to 2,14W becau=
se
the LPF got hot.
v73
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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Lbr Uwe, 

danke. Jetzt habe ich auch deine eigene email-Anschrift wieder, war mir
verloren gegangen.

In einem Punkt habe ich mich in englisch nicht korrekt ausgedr�ckt: Bei
der Loop handelt es sich um die gleiche nicht abgestimmte
Ein-Windungs-Drahtschleife, die ich auch f�r den Empfang von SAQ
benutze, nur in diesem Fall mit einem anderen �bertrager zur Anpassung.
Mit der niedrigen Schleife h�re ich leise MF-Stationen fast noch besser
als mit meiner h�chsten T-Drahtantenne.

Deine ersten auf dem LF-Server angek�ndigten Bakensendungen hatte ich
nicht geh�rt. Hast Du jetzt eine h�here ERP?

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

<uwe-jannsen@versanet.de> schrieb:
> Zitat von hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Friday night around 22.10 UTC had aural reception of DI2BE in JN68GN,
> > eastern Bavaria, abt 15 dB above noise, slight qsb, using a passive loop
> > aerial with 15 meters circumference.
> >
> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> >
> >
> 
> Thanks, Ha-Jo.
> 
> 
> 



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Zitat von hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> Dear all,
>
> Friday night around 22.10 UTC had aural reception of DI2BE in JN68GN,
> eastern Bavaria, abt 15 dB above noise, slight qsb, using a passive loop
> aerial with 15 meters circumference.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
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>

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Dear all,

Friday night around 22.10 UTC had aural reception of DI2BE in JN68GN,
eastern Bavaria, abt 15 dB above noise, slight qsb, using a passive loop
aerial with 15 meters circumference. 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Added screenshots of the QRSS3 signals on about 503.5 kHz to my website:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Only a temporary rx setup, testing a homemade sdr on 500kHz with a
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Hello LFers !

Last night nothing here .

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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In message <01b701c7cbfb$04beee40$0b01a8c0@server>, J. B. Weazle 
McCreath <weazle@hurontel.on.ca> writes
>Hello LFers,
>
>Anyone here happen to know how much power and into
>what type of antenna do Navtex stations use?

It used to be 1kW into a vertical, but I don't know the length of the 
vertical.

I used to receive a station near St Johns sometimes with ice warnings. I 
used an active loop.

Mike

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J.B.,

   I have also come across a number of 1kW NAVTEX transmitters in my searches:
http://www.thales-communications.ltd.uk/new/naval_T4102MF.pdf

http://www.danphone.com/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=Files%2FFiler%2FPdf%2FNAVTEX_Description_Rev10.pdf



--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ     136-140kHz
WD2XSH/23 505-510kHz
WE2XEB/2   160-189kHz

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
> Hello LFers,
> 
> Anyone here happen to know how much power and into
> what type of antenna do Navtex stations use?
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
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> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
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J.B.,

   2kW into a 200' vertical.
http://www.lbagroup.com/technology/SAMWAS.php



--
73 Warren K2ORS

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
> Hello LFers,
> 
> Anyone here happen to know how much power and into
> what type of antenna do Navtex stations use?
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
> 
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Hello LFers,

Anyone here happen to know how much power and into
what type of antenna do Navtex stations use?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Last night I copy :

WD2XES 01:00 => 02:45 (small signal !)
This time, one passed under the conditions of summer!
since more than one week the level of the signals is with lowest.

the Captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Tks Jim.
Rog.
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Dear Mike, Rog, LF Group,

Over the last 20 minutes or so (to 2115utc), GW4HXO has  built up from a =
faint trace on the spectrogram to a RST 439 level, just as twighlight =
fades away at my QTH. Frequency is about 503.82kHz. There is still =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mike, Rog, LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over the last 20 minutes or so (to =
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Dear Mike, Rog, LF Group,

Over the last 20 minutes or so (to 2115utc), GW4HXO has  built up from a =
faint trace on the spectrogram to a RST 439 level, just as twighlight =
fades away at my QTH. Frequency is about 503.82kHz. There is still =
considerable QSB, but the signal strength is improving. I am also just =
starting to hear a signal just above 501.5kHz, which is also building on =
the spectrogram trace - I assume this is GW3UEP, but can't copy yet.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mike, Rog, LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over the last 20 minutes or so (to =
2115utc), GW4HXO=20
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am also=20
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building on=20
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yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Sent. Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Moritz=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


Dear Rog,

Yes, please send the mp3 - that would be interesting to listen to. The =
noise level here is a few dB higher in the E-W direction on the loop =
than it is N-S. Mal's signal is about 9 - 10uV/m here, usually around =
20dB above the noise in a 300Hz bandwidth - all other things being  =
equal, I would at least expect to see GW4HXO on the spectrogram, but =
there is no trace at the moment here.=20

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:24 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Jim,
  Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they are there but the limiting factor =
is site noise-levels.
  I have solid/steady copy of kev but with little noise-margin - a few =
dBs of noise would kill it.
  Also, fluctuating noise-levels can give the impression of qsb on weak =
sigs.
  I have an mp3 [280k] recording of mal/chris at 10am, if you're =
interested? [~240mls].
  73, Rog.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Moritz=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Dear Mike, LF Group,

  No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was =
watching my
  own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There =
was
  pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in
  darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything =
much
  over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the =
ground
  wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, =
although
  the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear =
each
  other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater =
ground-wave
  range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far =
have been
  during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then =
too, so
  it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any
  possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here =
- the
  503.8 frequency is fine by me!

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Michael Probert" <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>
  To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
  > Hope that helps
  > 73
  > Mike GW4HXO


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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Rog,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, please send the mp3 - that would =
be=20
interesting to listen to. The noise level here is a few dB higher in the =
E-W=20
direction on the loop than it is N-S. Mal's signal is about 9 - 10uV/m=20
here,&nbsp;usually&nbsp;around 20dB above the noise in a 300Hz =
bandwidth&nbsp;-=20
all other things being &nbsp;equal, I would at least expect to see =
GW4HXO on the=20
spectrogram, but there is no trace at the moment here. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3D500kcs@uku.co.uk =
href=3D"mailto:500kcs@uku.co.uk">Gw3UEP</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 24, 2007 =
3:24=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: [ 500]; Two =
GW's=20
  Testing...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Jim,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they =
are there=20
  but the limiting factor is site noise-levels.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have solid/steady copy of kev but =
with little=20
  noise-margin - a few dBs of noise would kill it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Also, fluctuating =
noise-levels&nbsp;can give the=20
  impression of qsb on weak sigs.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have an mp3 [280k] recording of =
mal/chris at=20
  10am, if you're interested? [~240mls].</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">James Moritz</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Mike, LF Group,<BR><BR>No sign of your signal here =
in=20
  IO91VR north of London yet. I was watching my<BR>own beacon signal on =
GM4SLV's=20
  handy screen grabber overnight. There was<BR>pretty consistent =
reception=20
  without much fading while the path was in<BR>darkness, and nothing at =
all in=20
  daylight. I have not heard anything much<BR>over 2-300km during the =
day time=20
  here; to me it really seems that the ground<BR>wave signal levels =
"fall off a=20
  cliff" much beyond that over land, although<BR>the fact that GM4SLV, =
G3KEV and=20
  other stations near the coast can hear each<BR>other during daylight =
seems to=20
  confirm substantially greater ground-wave<BR>range over the sea. All =
the DX=20
  reports on my beacon signals so far have been<BR>during darkness; and =
the=20
  distant signals I have heard have been then too, so<BR>it looks like =
the=20
  ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any<BR>possibility of =
operating=20
  your beacon after dark would be welcome here - the<BR>503.8 frequency =
is fine=20
  by me!<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de M0BMU<BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
  -----<BR>From: "Michael Probert" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com">mjprobert@ynysdawelcottag=
es.com</A>&gt;<BR>To:=20
  &lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM<BR>Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's=20
  Testing...<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this =
frequency=20
  clear?<BR>&gt; Hope that helps<BR>&gt; 73<BR>&gt; Mike=20
GW4HXO<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Hello Jim and group,
Your comments totally confirm my experience on 500khz.
I have occasionally heard G3KEV and called him with no response, conversely
he has heard me and I have not heard him--Mal was quite "put out" about it.
I have heard Dave G3YXM on one occasion when he was in beacon mode. The
furthest East I have worked was G3AQC. There is no doubt as soon as there is
an element of sea path, in daylight, signals are enhanced. I have had 2
reports today from Falmouth and Lands End S4 received on non resonant
antennas.
>From this location to the NE I have the Preseli Mountains, to the West the
Brecon Beacons and SE Exmore-all great lumps of rock. The 2 GI's where there
is substantial sea path are both good signals. Roger GW3UEP 40m up the road
is a crashing signal.
Yes Jim, overland in daylight signals sure "fall off a cliff" at not too
great a distance.
Thinking about, it I suppose that's why the "old boys" many years ago built
the coast stations on the Coast-a profound statement!
Jim, I will leave the beacon running through the night on 503.8
Thanks to others who have sent reports.
73
Mike  GW4HXO.
__________________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...

Dear Mike, LF Group,

No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was watching my
own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There was
pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in
darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything much
over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the ground
wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, although
the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear each
other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater ground-wave
range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far have been
during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then too, so
it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any
possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here - the
503.8 frequency is fine by me!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Dear Rog,

Yes, please send the mp3 - that would be interesting to listen to. The =
noise level here is a few dB higher in the E-W direction on the loop =
than it is N-S. Mal's signal is about 9 - 10uV/m here, usually around =
20dB above the noise in a 300Hz bandwidth - all other things being  =
equal, I would at least expect to see GW4HXO on the spectrogram, but =
there is no trace at the moment here.=20

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:24 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Jim,
  Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they are there but the limiting factor =
is site noise-levels.
  I have solid/steady copy of kev but with little noise-margin - a few =
dBs of noise would kill it.
  Also, fluctuating noise-levels can give the impression of qsb on weak =
sigs.
  I have an mp3 [280k] recording of mal/chris at 10am, if you're =
interested? [~240mls].
  73, Rog.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Moritz=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Dear Mike, LF Group,

  No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was =
watching my
  own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There =
was
  pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in
  darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything =
much
  over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the =
ground
  wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, =
although
  the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear =
each
  other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater =
ground-wave
  range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far =
have been
  during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then =
too, so
  it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any
  possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here =
- the
  503.8 frequency is fine by me!

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Michael Probert" <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>
  To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
  > Hope that helps
  > 73
  > Mike GW4HXO


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, please send the mp3 - that would =
be=20
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E-W=20
direction on the loop than it is N-S. Mal's signal is about 9 - 10uV/m=20
here,&nbsp;usually&nbsp;around 20dB above the noise in a 300Hz =
bandwidth&nbsp;-=20
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GW4HXO on the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Jim,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they =
are there=20
  but the limiting factor is site noise-levels.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have solid/steady copy of kev but =
with little=20
  noise-margin - a few dBs of noise would kill it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Also, fluctuating =
noise-levels&nbsp;can give the=20
  impression of qsb on weak sigs.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have an mp3 [280k] recording of =
mal/chris at=20
  10am, if you're interested? [~240mls].</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">James Moritz</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Mike, LF Group,<BR><BR>No sign of your signal here =
in=20
  IO91VR north of London yet. I was watching my<BR>own beacon signal on =
GM4SLV's=20
  handy screen grabber overnight. There was<BR>pretty consistent =
reception=20
  without much fading while the path was in<BR>darkness, and nothing at =
all in=20
  daylight. I have not heard anything much<BR>over 2-300km during the =
day time=20
  here; to me it really seems that the ground<BR>wave signal levels =
"fall off a=20
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G3KEV and=20
  other stations near the coast can hear each<BR>other during daylight =
seems to=20
  confirm substantially greater ground-wave<BR>range over the sea. All =
the DX=20
  reports on my beacon signals so far have been<BR>during darkness; and =
the=20
  distant signals I have heard have been then too, so<BR>it looks like =
the=20
  ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any<BR>possibility of =
operating=20
  your beacon after dark would be welcome here - the<BR>503.8 frequency =
is fine=20
  by me!<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de M0BMU<BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
  -----<BR>From: "Michael Probert" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com">mjprobert@ynysdawelcottag=
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  &lt;<A=20
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</A>&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM<BR>Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's=20
  Testing...<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this =
frequency=20
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Jim,
Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they are there but the limiting factor is =
site noise-levels.
I have solid/steady copy of kev but with little noise-margin - a few dBs =
of noise would kill it.
Also, fluctuating noise-levels can give the impression of qsb on weak =
sigs.
I have an mp3 [280k] recording of mal/chris at 10am, if you're =
interested? [~240mls].
73, Rog.

----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Moritz=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


Dear Mike, LF Group,

No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was =
watching my
own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There was
pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in
darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything much
over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the =
ground
wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, =
although
the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear =
each
other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater ground-wave
range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far have =
been
during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then =
too, so
it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any
possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here - =
the
503.8 frequency is fine by me!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Probert" <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM
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> Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
> Hope that helps
> 73
> Mike GW4HXO


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have solid/steady copy of kev but =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Also, fluctuating =
noise-levels&nbsp;can give the=20
impression of qsb on weak sigs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I have an mp3 [280k] recording of =
mal/chris at=20
10am, if you're interested? [~240mls].</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Mike, LF Group,<BR><BR>No sign of your signal here =
in IO91VR=20
north of London yet. I was watching my<BR>own beacon signal on GM4SLV's =
handy=20
screen grabber overnight. There was<BR>pretty consistent reception =
without much=20
fading while the path was in<BR>darkness, and nothing at all in =
daylight. I have=20
not heard anything much<BR>over 2-300km during the day time here; to me =
it=20
really seems that the ground<BR>wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" =
much=20
beyond that over land, although<BR>the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other =

stations near the coast can hear each<BR>other during daylight seems to =
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Hi All,

I do agree with Alan & John, there is room for all modes of operation & as 
it is an experimental allocation we do need to assess all permitted modes 
under many various conditions.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Gents,
>
> There seems to be room for everyone, even in 3kHz, given that beacons
> (both QRSS and CW) can all sit quite happily crowded together, leaving
> room for QSOs in the rest of the band.
>
> Perhaps a gentlemanly bandplan can be agreed upon? Given that we have
> the SM and DL beacons at 505+ how about concentrating our beacons up in
> the top 500Hz or so? That way the bottom half of the band would be
> empty enough for QSOs with wide RX filters and the beacons could all be
> seen at once on an Argo screen?
>
> There must be room for the various "experiments" that we're all supposed
> to be doing - some of which quite rightly involve long-period beaconing
> as a tool for propagation studies that random QSOs would struggle to
> provide enough data for.
>
> Just my thoughts, as a remote station I like the fact that there is
> always something potentially to receive, even though for 99% of the time
> I see nothing.
>
> Regards,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alan Melia wrote:
>
>> Come on Dave.......if he hadn't been beaconing you wouldnt have known you
>> could hear him !! Surely there are enough 200Hz slots on the band to move 
>> to
>> for QSOs. We can do without snide comments, we all know your feelings and 
>> we
>> all have to exist on the band together ... "experimenting" .... which is
>> what the permit was granted for. Your problem only occurs for a few miles
>> around Dave's location he is transmitting very low power, what about the
>> rest of us who have a quiet band at the moment?
>>
>> Alan G3NYK
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: 24 July 2007 10:56
>> Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...
>>
>>
>> > On 24 Jul 2007 at 10:26, Michael Probert wrote:
>> >
>> > > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
>> >
>> > Well I can copy you well (539) in the gaps of G0MRF's beacon (on
>> > about 503.75). Both well inside even my 200Hz filter.... band ain't
>> > wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some room for
>> > actual QSOs...
>> >
>> > 73 Dave G3YMC
>> >
>> > http://www.davesergeant.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 



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Hi Mike,

Just audible here in Lancashire, not quite good enough for QSO, SpecLab is 
showing about 10 db over noise.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
> Hope that helps
> 73
> Mike GW4HXO
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not
> transmitting, but was very easy copy on Sunday - 'MRF is there 589 at
> the moment.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
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Gents,

There seems to be room for everyone, even in 3kHz, given that beacons 
(both QRSS and CW) can all sit quite happily crowded together, leaving 
room for QSOs in the rest of the band. 

Perhaps a gentlemanly bandplan can be agreed upon? Given that we have 
the SM and DL beacons at 505+ how about concentrating our beacons up in 
the top 500Hz or so? That way the bottom half of the band would be 
empty enough for QSOs with wide RX filters and the beacons could all be 
seen at once on an Argo screen?

There must be room for the various "experiments" that we're all supposed 
to be doing - some of which quite rightly involve long-period beaconing 
as a tool for propagation studies that random QSOs would struggle to 
provide enough data for.

Just my thoughts, as a remote station I like the fact that there is 
always something potentially to receive, even though for 99% of the time 
I see nothing.

Regards,

John GM4SLV

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alan Melia wrote:

> Come on Dave.......if he hadn't been beaconing you wouldnt have known you
> could hear him !! Surely there are enough 200Hz slots on the band to move to
> for QSOs. We can do without snide comments, we all know your feelings and we
> all have to exist on the band together ... "experimenting" .... which is
> what the permit was granted for. Your problem only occurs for a few miles
> around Dave's location he is transmitting very low power, what about the
> rest of us who have a quiet band at the moment?
> 
> Alan G3NYK
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: 24 July 2007 10:56
> Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...
> 
> 
> > On 24 Jul 2007 at 10:26, Michael Probert wrote:
> >
> > > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
> >
> > Well I can copy you well (539) in the gaps of G0MRF's beacon (on
> > about 503.75). Both well inside even my 200Hz filter.... band ain't
> > wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some room for
> > actual QSOs...
> >
> > 73 Dave G3YMC
> >
> > http://www.davesergeant.com
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



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Tks for reports Dave - vy encouraging.
Rog.
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On 23 Jul 2007 at 21:43, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> 2 Daytime levels seem weak but fairly constant, presumably ground-wave
> only propagation. Never strong enough to actually detect by ear.
>=20

I am rather surprised at that Dave since you are not very far from=20
me. Just checked again and 'UEP is easily copyable by ear just as he=20
was on Sunday afternoon. Goes up and down a bit, at times Q5, most of=20
the time around 319. But quite definitely there and easy to make out=20
the callsign. Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not=20
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73 Dave G3YMC

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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for reports Dave - vy=20
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Dear Mike, LF Group,

No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was watching my
own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There was
pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in
darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything much
over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the ground
wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, although
the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear each
other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater ground-wave
range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far have been
during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then too, so
it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any
possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here - the
503.8 frequency is fine by me!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
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> Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
> Hope that helps
> 73
> Mike GW4HXO



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Come on Dave.......if he hadn't been beaconing you wouldnt have known you
could hear him !! Surely there are enough 200Hz slots on the band to move to
for QSOs. We can do without snide comments, we all know your feelings and we
all have to exist on the band together ... "experimenting" .... which is
what the permit was granted for. Your problem only occurs for a few miles
around Dave's location he is transmitting very low power, what about the
rest of us who have a quiet band at the moment?

Alan G3NYK



----- Original Message -----
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> On 24 Jul 2007 at 10:26, Michael Probert wrote:
>
> > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
>
> Well I can copy you well (539) in the gaps of G0MRF's beacon (on
> about 503.75). Both well inside even my 200Hz filter.... band ain't
> wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some room for
> actual QSOs...
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>



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On 24 Jul 2007 at 11:11, Michael Probert wrote:

> Ok Dave.  Do you want me to turn it off? Would you like to try a qso
> with me ? 73
> 
> Mike 
> GW4HXO
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - band ain't wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some
> room for actual QSOs...
> 

I think a QSO with you is wishful thinking at the moment with my 5mW 
erp.... but I have just had an excellent QSO with Colin G3VTT, our 
first decent chat. I was just making a little comment about 
beacons...

Back to cutting the hedge - no floods here but the rain doesn't half 
make things grow!!

73 Dave G3YMC

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Ok Dave.  Do you want me to turn it off? Would you like to try a qso with me
?
73

Mike 
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On 24 Jul 2007 at 10:26, Michael Probert wrote:

> Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?

Well I can copy you well (539) in the gaps of G0MRF's beacon (on 
about 503.75). Both well inside even my 200Hz filter.... band ain't 
wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some room for 
actual QSOs...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear?
Hope that helps
73
Mike GW4HXO
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Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not 
transmitting, but was very easy copy on Sunday - 'MRF is there 589 at 
the moment.

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On 23 Jul 2007 at 21:43, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> 2 Daytime levels seem weak but fairly constant, presumably ground-wave
> only propagation. Never strong enough to actually detect by ear.
> 

I am rather surprised at that Dave since you are not very far from 
me. Just checked again and 'UEP is easily copyable by ear just as he 
was on Sunday afternoon. Goes up and down a bit, at times Q5, most of 
the time around 319. But quite definitely there and easy to make out 
the callsign. Can't hear 'HXO at the moment, maybe he is not 
transmitting, but was very easy copy on Sunday - 'MRF is there 589 at 
the moment.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Rog, LF.

I've got a complete set of Argo grabs of the GW3UEP beacon covering the last
24 hrs. (34 MBs worth...too big to e-mail!)

1 The beacon is visible at this QTH for the complete 24h period, using Argo
3 sec/dot setting

2 Daytime levels seem weak but fairly constant, presumably ground-wave only
propagation. Never strong enough to actually detect by ear.

3 The transition to night-time propagation commences as a series of fades
with about a 5 - 10 minute cycle, starting at around 2200 utc

4 Signals then increase up to workable CW levels, maintaining good copy with
slight QSB from 0030 until 0330utc

5 Signals fall to daytime levels fairly abruptly at around 0400 utc, and I
think Rog's central heating kicks in around then, as the frequency goes for
a little walk LF before settling down close to the 501.500 kHz nominal.

So, the best time to work to work GW - SE England seems to be between 0030
and 0330 utc, when presumably skywave propagation is the dominant
mechanism....no surprises there, I guess. At this distance, it's probably a
single E-region hop. By contrast, the longer path to GM4SLV is probably 3
hops or more.

It will be interesting to see if the daytime signal levels hold up when
Middle England has dried out a bit!

If Mike GW4HXO is in beacon mode over the next few days, I'll try and look
for him. Nothing seen so far.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 23 July 2007 06:35
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,

  Many thanks for your mails & reports, just collected  - had an early night
after hard labour on Sunday.

  Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of Wales - I'm just warming up the trees
here!

  FYI, since March have been QRP [6W from mini-Tx, via external LPF with 1dB
insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" buried coax to remote ATU].

  Last Thursday I routed the PA dc feed from 12V to the 22V pre-regulator
supply & mini-tx now running happily with 20W o/p, after adding 15kuF
smoothing.

  Then I removed the external -1dB LPF & still no sign of M/wave harmonics
off-site; so +6dB overall increase.  I_ant now ~0.6A.

  Tx is still running on ~501.5.

  Tks for tests.

  73, Rog.

  Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is mimosa yellow, currently SORN, hope
to MOT it soon.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave G3WCB
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 PM
  Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Hi Rog, LF

  Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just strong enough to be audible in
peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you signal is
definitely stronger.

  Still looking for GW4HXO...

  BTW, I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and
all...

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


    Hi Rog,

    HXO -  RST 319 with QSB to 419 at times
    UEP - Just visible on SpecLab

    73

    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

     'HXO 539 but flattened by a 599 G0MRF on top
    'UEP 319

    73 Dave G3YMC Bracknell IO91PJ

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LF.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>I've=20
got a complete set of Argo grabs of the GW3UEP beacon covering the last =
24 hrs.=20
(34 MBs worth...too big to e-mail!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>1 The=20
beacon is visible at this QTH for the complete 24h period, using Argo 3 =
sec/dot=20
setting</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007>3&nbsp;The transition to night-time=20
propagation&nbsp;commences as a series of fades with about a 5 - 10 =
minute=20
cycle, starting at around&nbsp;2200 utc</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>4=20
Signals then increase up to workable CW levels,&nbsp;maintaining good =
copy with=20
slight QSB&nbsp;from 0030 until 0330utc</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>5=20
Signals fall to daytime levels fairly abruptly at around 0400 utc, and I =
think=20
Rog's central heating kicks in around then, as the frequency goes for a =
little=20
walk LF before settling down close to the 501.500 kHz=20
nominal.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>So,=20
the best time to work to work GW - SE England seems to be between 0030 =
and 0330=20
utc, when presumably skywave propagation is the dominant mechanism....no =

surprises there, I guess. At this distance, it's probably a single =
E-region hop.=20
By contrast, the longer path to GM4SLV is probably 3 hops or=20
more.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>It=20
will be interesting to see if the daytime signal levels hold up when =
Middle=20
England has dried out a bit! </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>If=20
Mike GW4HXO is in beacon mode over the next few days, I'll try and look =
for him.=20
Nothing seen so far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 July 2007 06:35<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [ 500]; Two =
GW's=20
  Testing...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Many thanks for your mails &amp; =
reports, just=20
  collected&nbsp; - had an early night after hard labour on =
Sunday.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of =
Wales - I'm=20
  just warming up the trees here!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>FYI, since March have been QRP [6W =
from mini-Tx,=20
  via external LPF with 1dB insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" =
buried coax=20
  to remote ATU].</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Last Thursday I&nbsp;routed the PA =
dc feed from=20
  12V to the 22V pre-regulator supply &amp; mini-tx now running happily =
with 20W=20
  o/p, after adding 15kuF smoothing.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;removed the =
external -1dB LPF=20
  &amp; still no sign of M/wave harmonics off-site; so&nbsp;+6dB overall =

  increase.&nbsp; I_ant now ~0.6A.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tx is still running on =
~501.5.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for tests.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is =
mimosa=20
  yellow, currently SORN, hope to MOT it soon.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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think you=20
  signal is definitely stronger.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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Ok Chris - need anther 10dB to burn thru' the smog.
The digital ingress is spreading to "quiet" villages - suggest move to =
an island!
cu, Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Many thanks for the report Rog,
Sorry I didn't hear you but there's high local QRM at present.
I'll have to move to Wales . . .

73 Chris G3XIZ

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Many thanks for the report Rog,
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FB  - just rcd at 1251
----- Original Message -----=20
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Rog, I'm rock round on 502.0. I'll put out a CQ now. 73, Alan

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Rog, I'm rock round on 502.0. I'll put out a CQ now. 73, Alan

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:47:41 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Alan.
> 
> I'll leave the beacon on this evening until bed-time on QRS3
> Frequency is 503.5 and I suggest if John is back from the shops and
> wants to run Argo on the frequency, that any other stations snuggle
> up nice and close!
> 
> BTW. Who's that swishing around the band?
> 


Hi Dave etc.

I'm monitoring now, and will continue to do so all night. 

I'm looking at 503.5 +/- 50Hz with SpecLab in QRSS-3 mode. I'll leave it
running all night. I'll be in or around the shack for the rest of the
day until I fall asleep in the chair! 

Currently seeing something on 503.5, guess it's 'YXM, but not
really  readable yet. 

Should be interesting to see what pops in and out as the sky darkens.
Now we're nearly a month past the solstice it does get dark between
2300 and 0200 local. 


Regards,

John 'SLV



> Dave.
> 
> On 14/07/07, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave (and Dave !) Interesting that there seems little fading but
> > I am not
> > really surprised, I guess being daylight the lower ionosphere is
> > fairly well
> > ionised and doing all the reflections. What I would be very
> > interested to see on a path of nearly 100km is whether the
> > night-time signals suffer significant fading at this range.
> 
> 
> 


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Hi Dave (and Dave !) Interesting that there seems little fading but I am not
really surprised, I guess being daylight the lower ionosphere is fairly well
ionised and doing all the reflections. What I would be very interested to
see on a path of nearly 100km is whether the night-time signals suffer
significant fading at this range. The fading is probably due to returns from
two layer, and I am guessing this is worse at short distances where more
signal probably passes through the lower layer. At shallower angles like
that for the near 1000lm path to John I am hoping that less signal will get
through the lower layer/ there may well be fading but the return from the
upper layer may be weaker at this range leading to shallower fading. I could
just be totally wrong, but the proof is in the practical results. It will
only be a guide as John still barely has any night time and I am guessing
that the upper reaches may still be illuminated quite a long way south.

 This is what its all about !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK




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Hi Uwe,

Thanks for the info - that explains the strong signal of DI2BE here in 
JO42FD (near Bielefeld). I have no absolute fieldstrength readings yet.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de schrieb:
>>
> And the radiated power of DI2BE is 2,84W (ERP) found by measuring the 
> FS in a
> distance of >3*lambda using standard equipment.
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/di2be
>
>
>
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Zitat von Lubom=C3=ADr Bobal=C3=ADk <lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz>:

> Hi Dave!
> DI2AG =3D 505,090
> DI2BO =3D 505,015
> DI2BE =3D 505,120
> BHZ   =3D 505,100
>
> 73!
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
And the radiated power of DI2BE is 2,84W (ERP) found by measuring the FS in=
 a
distance of >3*lambda using standard equipment.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be



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Hi Dave!
DI2AG =3D 505,090
DI2BO =3D 505,015
DI2BE =3D 505,120
BHZ   =3D 505,100

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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DI2BE is 569 audible copy here in IO91PJ. Can't give you an accurate=20
frequency as I don't have Argo running - it's round about 505.15 by=20
ear...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 22 Jul 2007 at 20:17, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:

> Greetings all,
>=20
> I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a
> reasonable antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment. At the
> moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active E-field
> antenna. Uwe, if you are monitoring: What is the current E(D/M)RP of
> DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?
>=20
> I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level
> (in a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals
> from the UK at this QTH.
>=20
> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early
> evening hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a
> few occasional beeps.
>=20
> 73,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
>=20


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DI2BE is 569 audible copy here in IO91PJ. Can't give you an accurate 
frequency as I don't have Argo running - it's round about 505.15 by 
ear...

73 Dave G3YMC

On 22 Jul 2007 at 20:17, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:

> Greetings all,
> 
> I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a
> reasonable antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment. At the
> moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active E-field
> antenna. Uwe, if you are monitoring: What is the current E(D/M)RP of
> DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?
> 
> I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level
> (in a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals
> from the UK at this QTH.
> 
> Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early
> evening hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a
> few occasional beeps.
> 
> 73,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
> 


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Greetings all,

I am currently struggling with MF reception, trying to find a reasonable 
antenna for 500 kHz in a very noisy environment.
At the moment, all I can see is DI2BE with "O" copy, using an active 
E-field antenna.
Uwe, if you are monitoring:
What is the current E(D/M)RP of DI2BE, and the exact frequency ?

I'd like to get an estimation much it should be above the noise level 
(in a 1-Hz bandwidth), to know if there is any chance to catch signals 
from the UK at this QTH.

Any other suggestions of MF QRP beacons to look for in the early evening 
hours ? The G3YXM grabber shows no activity now, except for a few 
occasional beeps.

73,
 Wolf DL4YHF .


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Thanks, Victor.

Dave G3YXM and I seem to be about the same strength.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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G3YXM and G3WCB captured at 503.5

73
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Hi Gary, LF.

I can see your signal...it's only about "T" copy, but it's definitely there.
I'll keep watching and see if it improves as darkness falls.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi LF,

For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on
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Reports will be most welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Hi Rog, LF

Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just strong enough to be audible in peaks
of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you signal is definitely
stronger.

Still looking for GW4HXO...

BTW, I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and
all...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 22 July 2007 14:08
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: 500; Two GW's Testing...


  Would appreciate comp reports pls.

  HXO on 503.7
  UEP o 501.5

  Tks, Rog

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Rog, LF</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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be audible in peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you =
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looking for GW4HXO...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and=20
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  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 July 2007 14:08<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Would appreciate comp reports =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>UEP o 501.5</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Dave / Brian.
 
Thanks both for the report. Particually for the detailed Argo  screenshot.
 
Equipment is fairly basic.  TX
A trifilar transformer with 2 diodes forming a PSK modulator ( A DBM  really) 
driven from a DDS. Then 4 stages of linear amplification with 6 Watts  out.
 
Antenna: 9m base loaded vertical.   apx radiation resistance 0.08  ohms
Antenna current. barely moving the meter.  apx 100mA
So about a milliwatt ERP !
 
Modulation is the aspect of this that has kept me busy. All modulation is  on 
a PIC chip. The psk data is filtered by a 15Hz low pass built around an  
op-amp. No computer in use.
 
Having seen the spectrum from your argo shot, it appears it's the PSK  
synchronising signal just before the PSK31 message that is responsible for the  
widest bandwidth. The sync signal is a series of phase changes at 15.625Hz (+/-  
my timing errors) it appears to put all the energy from the TX at points  
seperated by 15Hz from the carrier. The PSK31 data however seems to fit  reasonably 
well into its expected 32Hz B/W.
 
Will leave it on overnight.
 
Thanks
 
David G0MRF
 
 
 
In a message dated 16/07/2007 19:57:56 GMT Standard Time,  
ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:

Dear LF,  David,

Copied G0MRF PSK beacon this evening on 503.7 kHz.

Beacon  text as follows:-
" PSK31 beacon de G0MRF
QTH West London  IO91TK
g0mrf@aol.com "

Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB  IO91RM







   

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<DIV>Hello Dave / Brian.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks both for the report. Particually for the detailed Argo=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Equipment is fairly basic.&nbsp; TX</DIV>
<DIV>A&nbsp;trifilar transformer with 2 diodes forming a PSK modulator ( A D=
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really) driven from a DDS. Then 4 stages of linear amplification with 6 Watt=
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<DIV>Antenna: 9m base loaded vertical.&nbsp;&nbsp; apx radiation resistance=20=
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<DIV>Antenna current. barely moving the meter.&nbsp; apx 100mA</DIV>
<DIV>So about a milliwatt ERP !</DIV>
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<DIV>Modulation is the aspect of this that has kept me busy. All modulation=20=
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op-amp. No computer in use.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Having seen the spectrum from your argo shot, it appears it's the PSK=20
synchronising signal just before the PSK31 message that is responsible for t=
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<DIV>Will leave it on overnight.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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<DIV>David G0MRF</DIV>
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Dear LF Group,

Nil on 503.4kHz so far - band is quite quiet.

G3XIZ andd PA2FNY are sending QRSS3 around 137.7 - both audible at the
moment, but the QRN is getting stronger...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi all, 

A brief update from the far north.

I've now got a working TX and I'm waiting for my NOV to arrive.

I built a version of the recently published design by Jim M0BMU,
although not using his ceramic oscillator.

My version uses an VFO that I'd previously built for a phasing RX. I
moved it from 40m to 8MHz, and divided by 16 to get 500kHz. It has a
huff/puff stabilizer, and I'd already gone to great lengths to get the
VFO reasonably stable without the huff/puff. With the stabilizer in use
I've found I can transmit (into load) for > 10 hours of constant
carrier and the output frequency stays constant, to the accuracy I can
measure.

I left it on overnight recently, into load, and fed my RX audio into a
PC running SpecLab. In "QRSS-30" mode, the waterfall line stayed
on a constant frequency throughout, and was still rock steady the next
morning! Keying the TX has no effect on the frequency either, no
chirp, no jumping huff/puff "lock points". It should certainly be good
enough for QRSS-10 or slower.

The TX produces 16W, and my 2 stage 1/2 wave LPF has the 2nd & 3rd
harmonics at 64dB below the carrier. It produce a constant carrier
indefinitely with no overheating (65% efficiency). I chose not to key
the dc feed to the PA via a FET and current limiting circuit as Jim's
design - to get just a bit more voltage to the FETS! I altered the
Drain transformer ratios to get a bit more than the 11w initially
available. I'm toying with the idea of upping the volts a bit to get
more power in hand in case I can't get enough RF current into the
antenna.

I've just refurbished my poorly AR7030 receiver, replacing all the front
end LPF/HPF filter components and the 1st mixer IC to rectify the
damage it suffered a few months ago. Sensitivity is better, as is
linearity, whether the sensitivity is necessary on MF is a moot point,
since external noise seems to be the limiting factor.

I have heard a few stations this week, not as many as I'd hoped, but
not had much time to listen/watch.

I've seen QRSS-3 from G3XIZ, heard Finbar GI4DPE's CW beacon in daylight
at RST229 and this evening, again in daylight, heard G3UNT calling CQ on
502.1kHz. He was also only 229, it took some time to be sure of the
callsign, but it was a nice bright trace on the waterfall and QRSS-3
would have been easily possible.

I've been getting lots of advice from Alan G3NYK and next step is to
prepare some form of variometer tuning to replace the L/variable C that
I'm tuning the antenna with for receive.

I've been experimenting with an impedance bridge to estimate ground
loss, and the results are encouraging so I should be able to get the
thing resonant and matched ready to radiate as soon as the NOV arrives.

Best 73 from the far north. At least it's starting to get a bit darker
up here now as autumn approaches!

John

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Fb Jim - hrd you wrkg Fin - wrkd him just b4 u, 599 here.
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Dear LF Group,

I had  good reception of beacon signals from GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE =
on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All the signals got up to a 569 =
sort of level at times, but with a lot of fading. When it started =
getting light, all 3 signals quickly faded into the noise. I have =
attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the signals from GW4HXO =
(upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, with the time =
markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on GW4HXO's =
signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at a similar level.

I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE tonight starting about 2335utc; =
this had similar fading but never really disappeared completely, and was =
569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am also hearing GW3UEP's =
beacon signal, which again seems to have much more fading than Finbar's =
signal did.=20

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had&nbsp; good reception of beacon =
signals from=20
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signals=20
got up to a 569 sort of level at times, but with a lot of =
fading.&nbsp;When it=20
started getting light, all 3 signals quickly faded into the noise. I =
have=20
attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the signals from GW4HXO =
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and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, with the time markers =
at 5=20
minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on GW4HXO's signal seems =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE =
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starting about 2335utc; this had similar fading but never really =
disappeared=20
completely, and was 569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am also =
hearing=20
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Finbar's=20
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Hi, John.

Thanks for looking. I'm QRT since 1100 UTC I'll be QRV again this evening.
G3YXM is currently beaconing QRSS3 on 530.500. You might have better luck
with him!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John GM4SLV
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:27:46 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF,
>
> G3WCB is in beacon mode QRSS3 +  5wpm callsign 503.325 for tests until
> mid-afternoon.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Nothing seen up here yet Dave. Will keep watching. Looks like we need
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:27:46 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF,
> 
> G3WCB is in beacon mode QRSS3 +  5wpm callsign 503.325 for tests until
> mid-afternoon.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave G3WCB IO91RM

Nothing seen up here yet Dave. Will keep watching. Looks like we need
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John GM4SLV

-- 
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny and Hartmut for the reports this week. 
Conditions were not quite as good last night, based on Steve's DCF39 
plot, but are still quite interesting. The 0200-0300 UTC period 
continues to be the best.

I will run WD2XES tonight in WOLF(10) mode on 137.577 kHz starting 
around 0000 UTC. Reports are welcome. Operation on the following three 
nights will depend on weather, as thunderstorms are predicted.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


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Can people please make an estimate of the Loran level compared with what it=
 was when Rugby was on, and let me know (including their location).  If=
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On 19/07/2007 at 17:41 Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote:

>Dave Pick schrieb:
>> Dear all.
>>
>> Rugby has gone off and 136 is devoid of signals.
>> As long as the static isn't terrible I will be active on 136 CW and 
>> QRSS on Sunday morning and Chris G3XIZ has said he'll join me. The 
>> more the merrier!
>>
>> 73
>> Dave.
>> -- 
>> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK 
>UFB Dave .. hpe CU !
>
>73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U / DF0WD ;-)







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Dave Pick schrieb:
> Dear all.
>
> Rugby has gone off and 136 is devoid of signals.
> As long as the static isn't terrible I will be active on 136 CW and 
> QRSS on Sunday morning and Chris G3XIZ has said he'll join me. The 
> more the merrier!
>
> 73
> Dave.
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK 
UFB Dave .. hpe CU !

73, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U / DF0WD ;-)


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Long Haul isnt that bad at the moment either! Let me know where you are 
going to be.

Cheers from the steamer

Laurence 9V1 LF



>From: "Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com>
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>Dear all.
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>Rugby has gone off and 136 is devoid of signals.
>As long as the static isn't terrible I will be active on 136 CW and QRSS on
>Sunday morning and Chris G3XIZ has said he'll join me. The more the 
>merrier!
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>73
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Dear all.

Rugby has gone off and 136 is devoid of signals.
As long as the static isn't terrible I will be active on 136 CW and QRSS on
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73
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Dear all.<br><br>Rugby has gone off and 136 is devoid of signals. <br>As long as the static isn&#39;t terrible I will be active on 136 CW and QRSS on Sunday morning and Chris G3XIZ has said he&#39;ll join me. The more the merrier!
<br><br>73<br clear="all">Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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There is no storm this evening, so I can testing my small SDRadio. I
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Hi John.
Go to this link below and have a look at this analyser, it looks very 
similar to the one I am trying to get from Don in Wpg.  The only difference 
basically is it has a digital display, the one I 'hope' to get has an analog 
display.  I see Joe Craig says "it would cost a fortune to get it across the 
pond"....
I have your unit basically all together but still can't get the waveform to 
clean up a bit.  The front leading edge has a very large spike going up ~3 
times the height of the top of the rest of the square wave.  Not sure if a 
filter will take care of that or not.   Most amps have a waveform that look 
like a comb not a square wave with a leading spike.
73,
Jack


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Craig" <jcraig@mun.ca>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: LF: HP312A SLM


> Hi Dave,
>
> Very interested indeed, but it would cost a fortune to get it
> across the pond I think!
> 73
> Joe
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Dave Pick wrote:
>
>> Is this <http://wireless.org.uk/images/hp312a.jpg> of any interest to
>> anyone?
>>
>> E-mail me direct at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk or my gmail address.
>>
>> Dave.
>> --
>> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>>
>
> 




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Hi Dave,

Very interested indeed, but it would cost a fortune to get it
across the pond I think!
73
Joe


On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Dave Pick wrote:

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> anyone?
>
> E-mail me direct at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk or my gmail address.
>
> Dave.
> --
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
>


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Is this <http://wireless.org.uk/images/hp312a.jpg> of any interest to
anyone?

E-mail me direct at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk or my gmail address.

Dave.
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Dear John, LF,

Also looking 502.5 QRSS3 until 2230z, and then I'm going to ground my
antenna! Band full of static, T-storms active over GW-land and the Midlands.


Check out this useful site:-

http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John GM4SLV
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:52:05 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Nothing down here in the south John although the static is fierce.
> Bad storms tonight coming up from France. Will keep and ear open. I
> transmit rock bound on 502.2 but always tune the band. GL
>
> 73
>
> Colin G3VTT


Thanks for listening Colin. Glad (if that's the right word) that your
suffering from static too, shows it's not somehting I've changed here.
The band was quiet earlier. I heard very strong sigs from G3KEV, but
hadn't got the antenna sorted and had lots of other stuff to do first.

Got it roughly tuned at 2215 BST (the benefits of long days up here in
summer) and found the band full of noise (as well as XYL's QRM
generating goggelbox).

Currently sneding QRSS-3 on 502.5 since with state of the band I think
I might struggle to work CW, but a report of my QRSS from anywhere
would at least be a start!

John






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Hi, Gary, LF,

Your signals visible here "O" copy with ARGO, despite lots of horrible
static crashes.  Screenshot attached.

The other dashes visible either side of your transmission are keying
artifacts from G0MRF's PSK transmission on 503.700 kHz.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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Subject: LF: 500 - Testing 503.600khz


Hi All,

Finally had the garage roof replaced (had to employ a different roofer due
to false & broken promises).

I am currently testing re-erected & hopefully improved antenna in my small
garden. Consists of 12 mtrs vertical, elevated inductance & small top
capacity hat.

503.600 KHz, sending G4WGT (qrss03), 6wpm CW ID, 5 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Dear Dave,
        the SPM-3 handles symmetric ( bottom and middle port ) and
assymetrical signals ( bottom or middle port and upper port, which is
ground. ) If you take an ohmmeter you will not find a connection between
ground and bottom or middle port, but between bottom and middle port
something like 50Ohm. Hope this was the reason and the equipment is ok.
73   Walter   DJ2LF / DI2AG

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Freitag, 20. Juli 2007 00:35
Betreff: LF: SPM-3 - deaf?


>
>Dear LFers,
>
>I have just acquired a Wandel & Golterman SPM-3, but it seems a bit deaf.
>The wide-band setting works OK, but the "Selective" channel can't be
>calibrated, and is 15 dB low in gain. Looks like a popped front-end or a
>damaged input circuit. I've opened up the case, but all the innards are =
in
>screened metal boxes.
>
>Is this a common fault with this unit, and does anyone have experience o=
f
>this fault? (and managed to fix it!)
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>



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Seems they weren't telling you the 'flax'   :-)


On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 19:08 +0100, Mike Dennison wrote:
> Last week I was on Kizhi Island in Karelia, northern Russia. In an 
> old farmhouse museum, I took the picture at:
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf/flax.jpg
> 
> I was told it was all about processing flax, but take a look and see 
> what you think . . .
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
> (currently off air)
> ============
> 
> 
> 



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Last week I was on Kizhi Island in Karelia, northern Russia. In an 
old farmhouse museum, I took the picture at:
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I was told it was all about processing flax, but take a look and see 
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Nothing seen yet on 503.4, John, CW or QRSS. I'm still looking..

BTW G3KEV is calling you in CW on 503.5 as I write this.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:43:56 +0100
John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hi 500 MF group
> 
> I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
> calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP
> 
> Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
> on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound

Now gone to QRSS-3 while I tidy things up, on 503.400

Regards,

John GM4SLV





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Dear LFers,

I have just acquired a Wandel & Golterman SPM-3, but it seems a bit deaf.
The wide-band setting works OK, but the "Selective" channel can't be
calibrated, and is 15 dB low in gain. Looks like a popped front-end or a
damaged input circuit. I've opened up the case, but all the innards are in
screened metal boxes.

Is this a common fault with this unit, and does anyone have experience of
this fault? (and managed to fix it!)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:43:56 +0100
John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hi 500 MF group
> 
> I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
> calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP
> 
> Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
> on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound

Now gone to QRSS-3 while I tidy things up, on 503.400

Regards,

John GM4SLV


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Hi 500 MF group

I've got my antenna tuned and have feed current of 0.7A which
calculations suggest will get me 100mW ERP

Will start calling CQ on 503.400 at 0845 UTC will watch the whole band
on w/fall and can QSY to anyone who's rockbound


Regards,

John P-G
-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Im in perhaps a strange position as I would never hear or see any signals on 
the band if it wasnt for some form of technical assistance non ear based, so 
it has its place I believe as long as its tenable and as Dave YMC says 
doesnt drive people away  by causing unsolicited qrm. Im not sure why it 
should  - but there again I dont live in any location which can give me 
enough s/n to copy by ear, well at the moment any way. I strive for the same 
s/n improvements at the less than dB level, just some 30dB less than audible 
thats all.

Roll on perhaps a couple of years and Ill land in a location where Im 
allowed to actually put a signal out on 137 or 500KHz - oh bliss....

Vy 73 Laurence 9V1 LF aka GM4DMA


>From: "Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com>
>Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 v 136
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:50:05 +0100
>
>Dave and all.
>
>I don't agree about beacons. They are extremely useful for checking
>receivers / aerials etc. and giving us an idea of how conditions vary 
>during
>the day over the paths we need to know about. Better a beacon on the band
>than nothing!
>I still can't copy you by ear Dave but it's getting better. More power 
>Igor!
>
>Dave 'YXM
>
>
>On 19/07/07, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:
>>
>>On 19 Jul 2007 at 9:56, John GM4SLV wrote:
>>
>> > Can anyone give me a clue as to how long OFCOM/RSGB take to process
>> > the SRP applications. I posted mine on Wed 4th July, so it's been 2
>> > weeks and counting.
>>
>>Mine came back within just a few days, but that was back in April.
>>
>>Most of you on here will by now know my opinion of QRSS and I do seem
>>to be in the minority. Down here in the south there is enough
>>activity at times but it does vary. After sorting out my antenna/tx
>>problems yesterday I promptly had no less than 3 QSOs so I was well
>>pleased. I can never see the point of beaconing in any mode 24/7 and
>>I am sure it puts some people off. Down here many signals are STRONG
>>and it takes up valuable bandwidth, meaning if there are more than
>>say a couple of people who want seperate CW QSOs there ain't much
>>space with 400Hz filters. Like Mal I also lost interest in 136 when
>>it went that way and tend to agree with him that 500k is going the
>>same way. Let us use it for real experimentation rather than one or
>>two people transmitting (probably nowhere near the shack) and the
>>rest just licenced listeners.
>>
>>73 Dave G3YMC
>>
>>http://www.davesergeant.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote:

> On 19 Jul 2007 at 9:56, John GM4SLV wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone give me a clue as to how long OFCOM/RSGB take to process
> > the SRP applications. I posted mine on Wed 4th July, so it's been 2
> > weeks and counting.
> 
> Mine came back within just a few days, but that was back in April.
> 

That's interesting! Thanks Dave. I wonder if at the beginning they 
handled applications as they arrived but now they're "batch processing" 
once a week or fortnight?

> Let us use it for real experimentation rather than one or two people 
> transmitting (probably nowhere near the shack) and the rest just 
> licenced listeners.

Fair enough comment Dave. There's no point getting a NOV and building 
TX equiment if all you can hear is beacons and there's no-one to talk 
to.

When there's activity at reasonable signal strength I'd agree that it's 
best not to run beacons. Unfortunately over most of the country this 
isn't the case. Perhaps beaconing should be left to those stations 
either running very low power or geographically remote from the centre 
of activity where they aren't going to be a nuisance to others wanting 
to have QSOs and have wide-ish filters? (I've just made a 100Hz AF 
filter because the AR7030 is a bit wide at 1.3kHz, but haven't had a 
chance to try it out yet.)

The "band" is so narrow at 3kHz that once local station density 
increases to a good level there isn't the space for beacons to fit 
alongside "real live" QSOs, and therefore there's no need for them, as 
long as there's activity from the stations that are there.

For the rest of us who are out on a limb (I know I'm a bit of an 
extreme case!) then just being able to hear a signal is encouraging, 
whether it's a beacon, QRSS or (best all round) a 2 way CW QSO.


As a progress report, I now have a 750uH - 1.05mH variometer sitting on 
the bench at work after a lunchtime tinkering session. That range should 
be enough to resonate my inverted L.

All that remains is a matching transformer, although initial 
measurements with a homebrew RF bridge show the antenna R to be about 
50-80 ohms, so might match well enough without.

GPO key is poised and ready to go.

Now all is in the lap of OFCOM....

Cheers, John 'SLV

-- 
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On 19 Jul 2007 at 9:56, John GM4SLV wrote:

> Can anyone give me a clue as to how long OFCOM/RSGB take to process
> the SRP applications. I posted mine on Wed 4th July, so it's been 2
> weeks and counting.

Mine came back within just a few days, but that was back in April.

Most of you on here will by now know my opinion of QRSS and I do seem 
to be in the minority. Down here in the south there is enough 
activity at times but it does vary. After sorting out my antenna/tx 
problems yesterday I promptly had no less than 3 QSOs so I was well 
pleased. I can never see the point of beaconing in any mode 24/7 and 
I am sure it puts some people off. Down here many signals are STRONG 
and it takes up valuable bandwidth, meaning if there are more than 
say a couple of people who want seperate CW QSOs there ain't much 
space with 400Hz filters. Like Mal I also lost interest in 136 when 
it went that way and tend to agree with him that 500k is going the 
same way. Let us use it for real experimentation rather than one or 
two people transmitting (probably nowhere near the shack) and the 
rest just licenced listeners.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Dave, Mal & LF,

I'm still waiting for my NOV to arrive!

My TX is all ready to go (about 16 watts key down, but hopefully I'll up 
it a bit to cope with an initially poor antenna).

I've just been away for a couple of days but I'm back at home as of 
Thursday morning and I hope to get a proper loading coil and matching 
xfmr wound today so that I'll be ready to go as soon as the NOV arrives, 
if it ever does!

I had some encouraging reception of Finbar GI4DPE in daylight earlier in 
the week.

Can anyone give me a clue as to how long OFCOM/RSGB take to process the 
SRP applications. I posted mine on Wed 4th July, so it's been 2 weeks 
and counting.

Can't wait, but don't want to jump the gun in the legality stakes!

I'm certainly more interested in working live CW as opposed to QRSS etc, 
but I see the utility of the "automatic" modes for collection of data 
regarding fading etc.

Hope to see some of you on the key as soon as OFCOM get the paperwork 
done...fingers crossed...

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Hi, Mal.
> 
> Have you worked John GM4SLV in the Shetlands yet?
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of hamilton mal
> Sent: 18 July 2007 19:37
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> Subject: LF: 500 v 136
> 
> 
> Hi All
> It looks like 500 is going the same way as 136. If Beacons and QRS are the
> trend then the band will fizzle out when the novelty wears off.
> QRS does little to encourage improving antennas or more efficient PA
> systems, or perfecting the basic skill of using CW, which has always been
> the traditional mode on the band.
> G3KEV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Hi, Mal.

Have you worked John GM4SLV in the Shetlands yet?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 18 July 2007 19:37
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Subject: LF: 500 v 136


Hi All
It looks like 500 is going the same way as 136. If Beacons and QRS are the
trend then the band will fizzle out when the novelty wears off.
QRS does little to encourage improving antennas or more efficient PA
systems, or perfecting the basic skill of using CW, which has always been
the traditional mode on the band.
G3KEV






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Hi Dave,

Good QRSS signal into Lancs but barely audible. Using PA0RDT mini-whip at 7 
mtrs & JRC NRD-345 Rx.

Garage roof replacement now complete & hope to get the antenna back up 
weather permitting !!!

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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I'm on 503.5 in QRS3 beacon mode with CW IDs for the next hour or so.

 Dave.

 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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First signals heard on 500KHz today, GI4DPE 559 at 16:20z on one leg of =
a 1/2 size G5RV + about 100uH..
Working on 12m top loaded vertical (my pump-up Hilomast with a 4m beam =
on top).. Have it stood off of ground on 1/2 thick PTFE block.
Working on impedance measurement bridge and then the ATH  (yes John SLV, =
it is an ATH:<)))  )=20

Assuming I can hear people OK in this cruddy & noisy environment, I will =
maybe go for the NOV
8W amp and Tx converter about ready to roll.

73s
Mark
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Hi Laurence that sounds as though it could be the Turkish Naval station, the
location I have is Ankara. It sits in between the mark and the space of
DCF39 If I remember rightly.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> DCF39 getting battered by qrn, but Im now getting another new fsk signal
on
> mark/space 139.040 138.962 - it has a slow qsb signature similar to dcf39
so
> looks real enough. Wonder if anyone else is seeing it? Its about the same
> strength as dcf39/budapest ie about S7 at the moment..I cant find another
> signal that it may be a product with at this time,
>
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Hi Jean-Louis,

Thanks for the info. Indeed, the film was made in 2002 - but it was 
still interesting (though there were some minor errors in it; for 
example the "ticking" morse tape writer ... they had to use 
galvanometers to "read" the weak signal).

73,
  Wolf  .

Jean-L. RAULT schrieb:
> Wolfgang B�scher a �crit :
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> ARTE will be showing a documentation about the 1866 transatlantic 
>> telegraph cable today at 20:45 local time. Maybe they show it in 
>> France too; but at least here in Germany I know which programme to 
>> watch this evening ;-)
>>
> Hello Wolf
>
> The programmes are the same on both the german and the french ARTE TV 
> channel.
> This programme has already been displayed some months ago on the same 
> channel :o)
>
> 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR
>
>
>
>
>



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Wolfgang B=FCscher a =E9crit :
> Greetings all,
>
> ARTE will be showing a documentation about the 1866 transatlantic=20
> telegraph cable today at 20:45 local time. Maybe they show it in=20
> France too; but at least here in Germany I know which programme to=20
> watch this evening ;-)
>
Hello Wolf

The programmes are the same on both the german and the french ARTE TV=20
channel.
This programme has already been displayed some months ago on the same=20
channel :o)

73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR




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Hi Bill and congrats on the reception.  SAQ was heard clearly again
at 1300 utc.  Many thanks to the operators and organisers for
a very interesting morning.

I have uploaded an audio clip from the first transmission to
www.ucs.mun.ca/~jcraig/lfex.html.  This clip is not procesed in any way.

As Bill mentions there were several other stations on FSK.  One
was at 18.2 kHz and is quite loud in the audio clip.  I guess NAA
was at 24.0.  Can someone tell me what the other ones were?

73
Joe

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Bill de Carle wrote:

> Got up early today to listen for SAQ (first run started up at 4:15 am EDT).
> I had a chance to try 3 antennas on the first transmission:
>
> 1: Large (20 x 30 feet vertical loop) in trees but favouring east/west -
>      Heard lots of other stuff but nothing from SAQ
>
> 2: Ferrite Rod (3/4" square x 12" long), tuned, into OP-27 preamp -
> good SNR between
>      static crashes but weak signal
>
> 3: 40-turn tuned loop diamond-shaped equiv to 75 cm dia circle in
> area - OP-27 preamp
>      SNR similar to ferrite rod but stronger signal and noise
>
> Used sound card receiver by SM6LKM, recorded audio to cassette.  Best
> settings were
> with 1000-Hz bandwidth and local osc set for 16457 Hz.
>
> The QRN here was terrible for both transmissions, slightly better on
> second transmission
> but by then the locals were up for breakfast and my powerline-induced
> noise was much
> worse, hi!  The static was incessant, so much that I was not able to
> copy the official
> message.  But I did hear lots of "VVV VVV VVV DE SAQ SAQ SAQ" and
> some long dashes before
> the official transmission.  Don't think there is much I can do with
> the recording to
> improve the copy.
>
> My QTH is Westmeath, Ontario, Canada - grid square FN15nt (over 1000
> Km inland from the
> Atlantic Coast).  Bearing to SAQ is 56 degrees magnetic.  Calculated
> distance: 5865 Km.
>
> Many thanks to SM6LKM for the cute software receiver and to the folks
> at Grimeton for
> making it happen.  This was the first time I was able to hear
> anything from SAQ.
>
> 73,
> Bill VE2IQ
>
>
>


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Got up early today to listen for SAQ (first run started up at 4:15 am EDT).
I had a chance to try 3 antennas on the first transmission:

1: Large (20 x 30 feet vertical loop) in trees but favouring east/west -
     Heard lots of other stuff but nothing from SAQ

2: Ferrite Rod (3/4" square x 12" long), tuned, into OP-27 preamp - 
good SNR between
     static crashes but weak signal

3: 40-turn tuned loop diamond-shaped equiv to 75 cm dia circle in 
area - OP-27 preamp
     SNR similar to ferrite rod but stronger signal and noise

Used sound card receiver by SM6LKM, recorded audio to cassette.  Best 
settings were
with 1000-Hz bandwidth and local osc set for 16457 Hz.

The QRN here was terrible for both transmissions, slightly better on 
second transmission
but by then the locals were up for breakfast and my powerline-induced 
noise was much
worse, hi!  The static was incessant, so much that I was not able to 
copy the official
message.  But I did hear lots of "VVV VVV VVV DE SAQ SAQ SAQ" and 
some long dashes before
the official transmission.  Don't think there is much I can do with 
the recording to
improve the copy.

My QTH is Westmeath, Ontario, Canada - grid square FN15nt (over 1000 
Km inland from the
Atlantic Coast).  Bearing to SAQ is 56 degrees magnetic.  Calculated 
distance: 5865 Km.

Many thanks to SM6LKM for the cute software receiver and to the folks 
at Grimeton for
making it happen.  This was the first time I was able to hear 
anything from SAQ.

73,
Bill VE2IQ



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Hearing you on 503.3khz tuning up. If you can listen on 144MHz CW I could
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Alan, J B and Lowfers enthusiast !
After W E , I will prepare a description of this antenna,
and I will put it on line.
Good W E
Jean-Pierre f1afj

J. B. Weazle McCreath a =E9crit :
> Hello Jean-Pierre, LFers,
>
> A nice looking bit of construction!  I'd be interested in the
> details of the tuning/matching which I assume are in the
> conduit box at the bottom.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
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Hello Jean-Pierre, LFers,

A nice looking bit of construction!  I'd be interested in the
details of the tuning/matching which I assume are in the
conduit box at the bottom.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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EN93dr

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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Willem de Roode wrote:

> Seatty not freeware
> 
> But Multipsk is freeware it works ok in amtor fec receiver 300hz and then
> Navtex.
> 
>  
I also use http://www.frisnit.com/navtex/?id=decoder which is free too. 

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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Hello lf

 

Looking for navtex ?

 

Seatty not freeware

 

But Multipsk is freeware it works ok in amtor fec receiver 300hz and then
Navtex.

 

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Thanks to all the positive help I've had from various people, via the 
list and direct, I've filled in my NOV application form, along with lots 
of suitably impressive waffle and diagrams etc, so now it't time to 
gather the bits together for the TX.

I did see G3XIV and M0BMU's QRSS last night, although didn't get a 
screen capture. Chris's signal, initially readable characters on 
waterfall, faded quite quickly after it appeared but Jim's stayed for 
longer, although it was quite weak - couldn't really read the 
dots/dashes without knowing who it was.

I need some night-time up here to help things along! It hasn't been dark 
now for a couple of months, at 60N

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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Hello all,

After receiving some encouragement to get involved on 500k/c I've spent 
some time getting a rudimentary RX setup in place.

I now have an inv. L at 8m high with 10m top loading section which I've 
been able to tune via series cct formed by a 1.5mH L and 500pf variable 
capacitor.

Initial calculations showed an estimated ant capacitance of ~110pF and 
the behaviour of the tuning cct would seem to back up the calculations.

I hope to re-assemble it all again this evening and do some listening.

Over the weekend I heard G3XEV, along with the BHZ beacon, but there was 
a bit too much QRN being coupled via the connection to the PC soundcard 
to see down to the real noise floor using Spectrum Lab etc. 

With the RX disconnected from the PC the band was quiet enough, so I've 
just added audio isolating xfmrs to the lead between the AR7030 and PC - 
hopefully this will help (I'll only know when I get home from work). If 
it works this will allow me to use the PC as a monitoring device. I can 
use a VNC connection from work to keep an eye on the monitoring PC 
during the day.

When I heard G3XEV finishing a QSO with G3XIV at the weekend I 
frantically tried to find some other inter-G traffic on 40m or 30m (only 
bands I can radiate any sort of signal - 10w from a K2) but it was all a 
bit "long" so didn't bother suggesting a crossband QSO. 

On reflection I think I'd better plough on and start building a TX for 
500, and gain some RX experience, rather than spend time being diverted 
attempting x-band contacts.

I will probably resurrect my old plan to use the AR7030's 1st LO to 
generate my 500kHz. I long ago started a project to mix the 1st LO with 
a 45MHz xtal osc to create a signal source that tracked the dial 
frequency of the receiver. I even had the 45MHz xtal cut and tested the 
idea. Now would be a good time to put it to some use! All that's needed 
then is some gain, a keying cct and some form of PA & LPF. 

Is it worth applying for the NOV before getting the TX built? And is 
anyone aware of any pitfalls to avoid, or vital bits that are needed, 
when filling in the form?

Best 73 and hope to hear you on 500k/c

John GM4SLV

-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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In a message dated 03/07/2007 19:18:54 Greenwich Standard Time,  
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I'll be  putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
After  which I'll beacon my call sign for a short while.

73 Chris  G3XIZ





At 2009 GMT in Plymouth IO70WJ.  Very high static level here  now.
 

 
73 Peter G3JFS



   

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I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
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Hello Michael,

thanks for your reaction,it could very well be RBU,I receive the other
sideband at 66.34 KHz.(It's not always an advantage to listen with a 100Hz
filter!)
Thanks for your list

73 GL
Victor


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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Michael Oexner
Verzonden: zaterdag 7 juli 2007 13:09
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: 67 KHz


Hello Victor,


> Hello,

> does anybody know what is transmitted at 67.000 KHz?? It sounds like
> a time standard,1 to 5 blibs every second or so.I can't find
> anything on the internet about this station.

What about RBU Moscow on 66.67 kHz?

For details on this and other time signal stations you might want to
download the following list:

http://www.longwave.de/TSS.pdf


--
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook"
cf. http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/NDBpublications2007.pdf
and http://lwca.org/miscdocs/NDBpublications2007.pdf







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Hello Victor,


> Hello,

> does anybody know what is transmitted at 67.000 KHz?? It sounds like
> a time standard,1 to 5 blibs every second or so.I can't find
> anything on the internet about this station.

What about RBU Moscow on 66.67 kHz?

For details on this and other time signal stations you might want to
download the following list:

http://www.longwave.de/TSS.pdf


-- 
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


Editor of "The European NDB Handbook" & "The North American NDB Handbook"
cf. http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/files/NDBpublications2007.pdf
and http://lwca.org/miscdocs/NDBpublications2007.pdf




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Hello,

does anybody know what is transmitted at 67.000 KHz?? It sounds like a time
standard,1 to 5 blibs every second or so.I can't find anything on the
internet about this station.

73
Victor
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Dear LF Group,

I had  good reception of beacon signals from GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE =
on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All the signals got up to a 569 =
sort of level at times, but with a lot of fading. When it started =
getting light, all 3 signals quickly faded into the noise. I have =
attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the signals from GW4HXO =
(upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, with the time =
markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on GW4HXO's =
signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at a similar level.

I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE tonight starting about 2335utc; =
this had similar fading but never really disappeared completely, and was =
569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am also hearing GW3UEP's =
beacon signal, which again seems to have much more fading than Finbar's =
signal did.=20

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
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got up to a 569 sort of level at times, but with a lot of =
fading.&nbsp;When it=20
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at 5=20
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Finbar's=20
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Conditions still look pretty good down here on the equator towards Eu - 
dcf39, budapest and Ankara and all around peaking -60dBm at the moment just 
45 mins from dawn, with the normal slow fades and qrn from 
tstorms..yawn....time for a coffee

No one on in the 137775 137777 window that I can see,

Laurence
9V1 LF


>From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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>Subject: LF: Re: Luxembourg effect
>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:59:09 +0100
>
>Hi Jim, I discussed this effect (ICM) at some length with Vaino OH2LX. That
>arrangement would seem to be fairly common. The "victim station " Lakihegy
>is beyond the high power BC station providing the ionospheric "heating". It
>would be interesting but I guess DLF is almost in line ??. I have not
>checked the Geomag indexes but I always noticed the effect most during a
>geomag storm. (We were due for a coronal hole event this evening, and it
>looked to be "winding up for it" at lunchtime). I guess it could 
>precipitate
>excess electrons into the D-layer to be "intermodulated", but Vaino assured
>me there was no connection ! Now there is a nice little research project 
>for
>someone !!
>
>Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: 10 July 2007 22:39
>Subject: LF: Luxembourg effect
>
>
> > Dear LF Group,
> >
> > Just amusing myself with the 136kHz modified SoftRock, listening to the
> > Hungarian "DCF" station on 135.4kHz on lower sideband - the Luxemborg
>effect
> > is very strong this evening and the sidebands appear to come mainly from
>DLF
> > on 153kHz. If I could speak German, I could probably follow the
> > conversation, although it  has lost a lot of the HF as is typical. There
>is
> > a most peculiar echoing effect which is very interesting to listen to. I
> > wonder how the time delay could originate? (there is the time delay
> > associated with the DSP, but I am hearing the echo on the Hungarian 
>signal
> > by itself)
> >
> > Cheers, Jim Moritz
> > 73 de M0BMU
> >
> >
>
>

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Hi Jim, I discussed this effect (ICM) at some length with Vaino OH2LX. That
arrangement would seem to be fairly common. The "victim station " Lakihegy
is beyond the high power BC station providing the ionospheric "heating". It
would be interesting but I guess DLF is almost in line ??. I have not
checked the Geomag indexes but I always noticed the effect most during a
geomag storm. (We were due for a coronal hole event this evening, and it
looked to be "winding up for it" at lunchtime). I guess it could precipitate
excess electrons into the D-layer to be "intermodulated", but Vaino assured
me there was no connection ! Now there is a nice little research project for
someone !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 10 July 2007 22:39
Subject: LF: Luxembourg effect


> Dear LF Group,
>
> Just amusing myself with the 136kHz modified SoftRock, listening to the
> Hungarian "DCF" station on 135.4kHz on lower sideband - the Luxemborg
effect
> is very strong this evening and the sidebands appear to come mainly from
DLF
> on 153kHz. If I could speak German, I could probably follow the
> conversation, although it  has lost a lot of the HF as is typical. There
is
> a most peculiar echoing effect which is very interesting to listen to. I
> wonder how the time delay could originate? (there is the time delay
> associated with the DSP, but I am hearing the echo on the Hungarian signal
> by itself)
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>



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Hi John and Alan,
Thanks for the comments on propagation,you could both be right.
I need a night off so will stick with decision, and see how things are
tomorrow.
Thanks
Laurie.

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Hi John and Alan,<br>Thanks for the comments on propagation,you could both be right.<br>I need a night off so will stick with decision, and see how things are <br>tomorrow.<br>Thanks<br>Laurie.<br>

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Hello Rog and all,

Nice copy last night of your QSO with Finbar, both signals with similar =
level; in spite of QSB, almost 100% of the QSO heard here.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:36 AM
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  Fb Jim - hrd you wrkg Fin - wrkd him just b4 u, 599 here.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Moritz=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:20 AM
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  Dear LF Group,

  I had  good reception of beacon signals from GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE =
on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All the signals got up to a 569 =
sort of level at times, but with a lot of fading. When it started =
getting light, all 3 signals quickly faded into the noise. I have =
attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the signals from GW4HXO =
(upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, with the time =
markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on GW4HXO's =
signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at a similar level.

  I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE tonight starting about 2335utc; =
this had similar fading but never really disappeared completely, and was =
569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am also hearing GW3UEP's =
beacon signal, which again seems to have much more fading than Finbar's =
signal did.=20

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU


  __________ Informaci=F3n de NOD32, revisi=F3n 2424 (20070726) =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice copy last night of your QSO with =
Finbar, both=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Fb Jim - hrd you wrkg Fin - wrkd him =
just b4 u,=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had&nbsp; good reception of beacon =
signals from=20
  GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All =
the=20
  signals got up to a 569 sort of level at times, but with a lot of=20
  fading.&nbsp;When it started getting light, all 3 signals quickly =
faded into=20
  the noise. I have attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the =
signals=20
  from GW4HXO (upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, =
with the=20
  time markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on =
GW4HXO's=20
  signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at=20
  a similar level.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE =
tonight=20
  starting about 2335utc; this had similar fading but never really =
disappeared=20
  completely, and was 569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am =
also=20
  hearing GW3UEP's beacon signal, which again seems to have much more =
fading=20
  than Finbar's signal&nbsp;did.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de =
M0BMU</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>__________=20
  Informaci=F3n de NOD32, revisi=F3n 2424 (20070726) =
__________<BR><BR>Este mensaje=20
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DCF39 getting battered by qrn, but Im now getting another new fsk signal on  
mark/space 139.040 138.962 - it has a slow qsb signature similar to dcf39 so 
looks real enough. Wonder if anyone else is seeing it? Its about the same 
strength as dcf39/budapest ie about S7 at the moment..I cant find another 
signal that it may be a product with at this time,



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Jean-Pierre and T/A entusiasts

Thanks for the continued reports and captures. XNS shut down at about 0300 last night - guess I
should have let it run a while longer. It's nice to see such good reception in the middle of summer!

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Second session slightly less QRN...

www.w1vd.com/saq070107es.wav

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Short snipit of SAQ reception in CT - about on par with reception from 7/02/06. Significant amounts
of QRN but message quite copyable.

www.w1vd.com/saq070107cs.wav

Setup:

10' 14 turn Octoloop - series tuned
Ferrite isolation transformer
HP 3586C using 3100 Hz filter
Processed with CoolEdit 400 Hz wide FFT filter

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS




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Dear LF Group,

Thanks for all the reports - It looks like 500kHz is rather like 136k in
that you need a propagation path that is in darkness or near-darkness over
the longer distances. It is encouraging that the QSB seems not to be too
severe; it looks like QRSS contacts should be perfectly feasible over
inter-European distances if signal levels won't support CW, etc. Should be
interesting when winter comes around.

I got out my old HRO receiver yesterday - with the 480 - 960kHz coil pack
plugged in, a 0.1uV signal is at a comfortably readable level at 502kHz, so
it lacks nothing in sensitivity compared to a modern RX. The selectivity is
poor compared to a modern CW filter of course, but this is not too much of a
problem, since there are not really any very strong signals around the band,
unlike 136k. It drifts significantly, a kHz or two in the last day or so -
but it is drifting very slowly, so not really a problem for normal
operation, I suppose it might settle down in time. I have now installed a
relay and gain control pot for muting on TX, and used it for a QSO with
G3AQC this morning. What with SG Browns headphones, morse key and
everything, I am starting to look like a proper radio operator now :-)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

> Hello Dave, LF
>
> Yes there was a period around that time when all 3 of your were strong
> and stable. The times on the screenshots are in UTC (the radio PC is
> set to UTC to eliminate doubt!)
>
> It's only really dark here between 2200z and 0200z. It was getting
> light, and signals were starting to fade, when I went to bed at 0300
> BST.
>
>



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Long Haul to Eu pretty good at LF with all the normal Utility (DCF39, 
Budapest and Ankara) stations at good audible strength. The FSK just HF of 
Budapest was off pre dawn this morning.

Noise level was a bit lower overnight with the tstorms not too close.

Laurence 9V1 LF
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>From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>

Snip

. Propagation conditions look quite good at the
>moment on LF and it should be the same at 500k.....that dont account for
>T-storm crashes though
>
>Well Done
>Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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>Sent: 19 July 2007 22:42
>Subject: LF: CQ 502.5
>
>
> > At last...
> >
> > Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
> > ~0.4A RF to the antenna
> >
> > Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with new
> > ATU?
> >
> > Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW
> >
> > John GM4SLV
> >
> > --
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> > Member : RSGB, ARRL
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Hi John I dont know whether Dave is getting the same as me, but I think
there is a sporadic "pirate" or else it is some other product probably from
somewhere on the continent which is very close to 502.5.  I am within 5
miles of the East Coast here.  I am seeing it most nights and it was
reported by Willem I think, who posted traces of it. It would certainly
confuse spotting your signal. LF experience says "round number frequencies
are best avoided if you can". Propagation conditions look quite good at the
moment on LF and it should be the same at 500k.....that dont account for
T-storm crashes though

Well Done
Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
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> At last...
>
> Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
> ~0.4A RF to the antenna
>
> Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with new
> ATU?
>
> Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> --
> G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
> Member : RSGB, ARRL
> Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
> Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org
>



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Dear John, LF Group,

Watching the frequency here from about 2155utc - nothing yet. It is very
noisy tonight, with near-continuous QRN, but GI4DPE is weakly audible from
time to time, so there seems to be some sort of propagation.  Will keep
looking ...

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> At last...
>
> Got antenna roughly tuned, variometer at the limit but SWR okay and
> ~0.4A RF to the antenna
>
> Seems to be a lot of static around - or is it something to do with new
> ATU?
>
> Anyway - I'm calling now 2141 UTC on 502.5 CW
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> --
> G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
> Member : RSGB, ARRL
> Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
> Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org
>
>



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PSK also copied here in IO91TP (Watford) but only about 50%. Signal just audible among the static crashes. Aerial is PA0RDT miniwhip to TS850.
   
  73 Brian
  
Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
  Dear LF, David,

Copied G0MRF PSK beacon this evening on 503.7 kHz.

Beacon text as follows:-
" PSK31 beacon de G0MRF
QTH West London IO91TK
g0mrf@aol.com "

Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM





 		
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<div>PSK also copied here in IO91TP (Watford) but only about 50%. Signal just audible among the static crashes. Aerial is PA0RDT miniwhip to TS850.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 Brian</div>  <div><BR><B><I>Dave G3WCB &lt;ganymede444@btopenworld.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Dear LF, David,<BR><BR>Copied G0MRF PSK beacon this evening on 503.7 kHz.<BR><BR>Beacon text as follows:-<BR>" PSK31 beacon de G0MRF<BR>QTH West London IO91TK<BR>g0mrf@aol.com "<BR><BR>Screenshot attached.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>&#32;
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Dear LF, David,

Copied G0MRF PSK beacon this evening on 503.7 kHz.

Beacon text as follows:-
" PSK31 beacon de G0MRF
QTH West London IO91TK
g0mrf@aol.com "

Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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nice capture xns
3:45 z
henny cpm
best 73s
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Hi Jay, LFers,

I just came into the shack and noticed a nice solid signal
from XNS mid-afternoon Saturday, here on the east
shore of Lake Huron.  You're coming in better now
than you where the other nite, Jay!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Hi Chris and Jim!
G3XIZ - IO92UB - 1267km
M0BMU - IO91VR - 1255km
 
Chris, I saw some parts of your call only and then I saw "XIZ". 
Jim, your signal was poor at first, but then very good, as you can see. 
 
It is nice evening on 500kHz!
73
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Added screenshots of DJ6GT, DL2HRE, G3XIZ and G3WCB on 137.7 kHz to
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Thanks Pete - also hrd ur bcn - nr Llandysul.

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GW3UEP,

you are just audible on peaks in Plymouth. Where are you located?

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<DIV>Thanks Pete - also hrd ur bcn - nr Llandysul.</DIV>
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Hello Jim!
Thanks for the schematic of LF SoftRock, no problem to have a look at
this one. It is enough similar to my home made SDR.=20
Sorry, there is a lot of storms in this days, so I can=B4t continue my
tests of the little 500kHz radio.=20

GL and 73

Lubos, OK2BVG

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz
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Subject: LF: LF SDR - SoftRock Lite mods for 136k and 500k

Dear LF Group,

I don't claim any great originality for this, but I have modified a
couple
of the SoftRock Lite v6.2 kits by KB9YIG for use on 136k and 500k - the
details are attached.

I changed the local oscillators to 4MHz for 500k and 1MHz for 136k, with
the
"x8" jumper set. This gives nominal LO frequencies of 500kHz and 125kHz
respectively, putting the output frequency within the range of a sound
card.
At 4MHz, the existing SoftRock LO circuit just about works, but it
didn't on
1MHz. I made some component value changes to the oscillator and buffer
to
get a reasonable waveform on each band, which are detailed in the
attachment. 4MHz crystals are easy to get - I had several 1MHz xtals in
my
junk box, but these seem to be harder to buy now than they once were. An
alternative for 136k would be to use a 1MHz DIL oscillator module,
feeding
the flip-flop directly. Another possibility is a 500kHz ceramic
resonator,
but the stability is not as good as a crystal.

The original input filter could be re-designed for the LF/MF range, but
the
components wouldn't fit on the tiny board, and the rejection of
broadcast
band signals would not really be good enough. So I designed off-board
input
filters with higher rejection of signals at harmonics of the LO
frequency.
Like the original design, these require no adjustment and use fixed
value
components - values are given in the attachment. I used 1/2-watt
resistor
sixed axial-leaded chokes on 500kHz, which were fine. Similar components
had
insufficient Q  at 136k, but the larger radial-leaded chokes wound on a
ferrite bobbin were adequate..The original tuned mixer input balun
transformer is replaced with an un-tuned ferrite-cored transformer.

I have used the two SoftRocks with I2PHD's "Winrad" software, and
DL4YHF's
SpecLab, both with excellent results. The Rocky software does not like
the
PCs I have available.  The sensitivity is not quite as good as my other
receivers, but since I normally use a preamp with various receiving
loops,
this is not important. The sensitivity should be adequate when used with
a
TX type antenna. It is important to set up the amplitude and phase
balance
carefully, especially on 136kHz, where there is a lot of Loran noise in
the
image sideband.

Let me know if you have any problems viewing the attached schematic,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hi All,

On 2nd April in an e-mail to LF I wrote :-

"I have been seeing a UNID signal (just audible) both day & night, I don't
think it is local to me, the signal is continuous carrier at about 501.920
kHz. Does anyone else see it or know its ID. If not I will investigate for a
local source."

& on 3rd I wrote :-

"The UNID signal on 501.920 kHz went off at 1505z this afternoon & not seen
since !!"

No one admitted to seeing or emitting the signal so I asumed it was locally 
generated.

But it has shown up very regularly from time to time both at daytime & night 
with a very stable continuous signal &  sometimes audible.

Today it appeared again with the resemblence of QRSS & an ID of some sort. I 
ran SpecLab at QRSS10 all day & here is a capture showing what does look 
like an ID "TJ" several times. See attachment.

Does anyone else see this signal, or is anyone geerating it ?  it is on at 
the moment with continuous carrier.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp








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Hello T/A !

This night, not of chance!
I tested my new antenna single loop of 2.2 m=B2,
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just a tune of 10 min out of 137779 to 01:30.

the files of night are at :
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, hamilton mal wrote:

> Hi All
> It looks like 500 is going the same way as 136. If Beacons and QRS are the
> trend then the band will fizzle out when the novelty wears off.
> QRS does little to encourage improving antennas or more efficient PA
> systems, or perfecting the basic skill of using CW, which has always been
> the traditional mode on the band.
> G3KEV

Unfortunately I think the ERP restriction on 100mW may be what drives 
the use of QRSS modes. Certainly from this QTH a lot of the active 
stations are over 900km away and QRSS gives much more chance of getting 
a contact, albeit not a "real one".

If we stick the the letter of the law then there is little to be gained 
from improving antenna efficiency since that then requires a 
commensurate reduction in transmitter power to maintain the ERP within 
the limit and nothing is gained except (for single antenna 
working) that RX performance may improve, although that's often limited 
by external band noise anyway.

PA efficiency is also a moot point when just about anything up to 20w RF 
can generate 100mW ERP form even the simplest MF antenna and even at 50% 
efficiency we aren't going to worry about dissipation in the PA at that 
power.

I do agree that perfecting the skill in CW is a help to operating, 
especially at low S/N ratios that we have with the low ERP. I can't 
speak for the stations who are clumped together in the SE of England, 
where seemingly S7-9 signals are regularly received, by up here I've 
never heard a CW signal that has been stronger than RST 339 (and that's 
not sn S-Meter 3, it's a real S3 in the old money - no S-meter 
deflections have been seen on any signals) so it does make you try 
harder to read CW under weak signal conditions.

Another aspect that seems to drive the beacon/QRSS is the low number of 
active stations and therefore low probability of any of them being 
active at the same time. We all have other calls on our time. Perhaps 
some form of "Inverse Silent Period" is needed to try and clump together 
the activity.

At least if someone has a beacon transmission running it's a chance to 
receive reports and for there to be a visible presence on the band for 
anyone new (like me) coming into the LF/MF world for the first time. 
Better to hear a beacon and think "gosh I've heard something on 500, 
let's get involved" than to think "I can't hear anything, is it because 
my set-up doesn't work or becuase there's no-one on the band?"

I've had some correspondance this week with Brian GM4JYB who is on 
Dunnet Head in the far north of Scotland and has been able to copy 
Finbar's beacon and as such is interested in going further, time 
permitted.

I think what I'm trying to say is that any RF radiated on 500 has to be 
beneficial, but hopefully the intention will always be to get on the key 
for real QSOs when possible.

Just my thoughts while I wait for OFCOM...

Cheers,

John


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g3kev.ham@virgin.net writes:

Hi  All
It looks like 500 is going the same way as 136. If Beacons and QRS are  the
trend then the band will fizzle out when the novelty wears off.
QRS  does little to encourage improving antennas or more efficient PA
systems,  or perfecting the basic skill of using CW, which has always been
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G3KEV





I agree Mal. I'll see you on the band later.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT



   

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Hi All
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trend then the band will fizzle out when the novelty wears off.
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Tks Dave.

Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dave G3WCB=20
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Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: LF: [500] GW3UEP - report


Hi, Rog, LF,

The GW3UEP beacon 501,095 kHz is peaking here 539, with long, slow QSB, =
and some static crashes.

Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D587392423-13072007><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Hi, =
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01./07/2007   0948z

Hello Gus!

Here it was only 599, 35 dB above the noise in JN09tt, near the city of 
Dieppe.
It was a pleasure of hearing this venerable station again!

VY 73 de Jeff  / F6CWN


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Just received SAQ with very strong signal abt 60dB over noise !
>
> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
>
> 




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Dear Lubomir, Gary, LF Group,

Excellent - thanks for the reports, I will leave the beacon running for a
while and see what happens. BTW, G3XIZ is still going (I think it's him,
anyway), but has QSY'ed to about 503.1kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Much improved till dawn this morning towards Eu -

DCF39, Budapest 135.43, Ankara all S9 - a new fsk signal just HF of Budapest 
on appx 135.6 low also S9. QRN up to 30 over nine still makes audible 
listening a chore.

Looked in the window 137.775 -137.781 overnight but nil...


Laurence
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JB

Thanks for the report! Glad to hear we're making the trip during the daytime. Spent the afternoon
making field strength measurments and will be comparing them with the previous winter
measurments...thus the unusual daytime operation.

Will let it run...

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Jay, LFers,
>
> I just came into the shack and noticed a nice solid signal
> from XNS mid-afternoon Saturday, here on the east
> shore of Lake Huron.  You're coming in better now
> than you where the other nite, Jay!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>



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Dear Chris, LF Group,

Worked Adrian yesterday - he is a consistent but quite weak signal here, =
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Cheers, Jim Moritz
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  Please keep an ear open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.
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Jim.
I am surprised that u did not see GM4SLV who was solid on 503.4 khz qrs3
beacon this morning, also audible 549 cw but rapid qsb taking dives into the
noise.
The qsb was not evident in qrs3 mode.
I tried both my loops ie 190m perimiter wire loop, and 1m diam active loop
and was able to copy signals on both. The small loop posn N/S gave solid
copy and prob better sig/noise, the large loop although E/W gave me a
stronger signal with slightly more noise but the noise was not significent.
On TX I use the 1/4 wave inv L at 100 ft vertical and rest horizontal. I did
not try the vert on RX on the GM signal but it usually works well, the
signal could have been even stronger.
The sea path between us helps, and its the same with BHZ he is always S9
with me, also BE was S9 last nite on 505.1 khz approx.
 Propagation condx seem good at present in spite of the hvy qrn at times

73 de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Dear John,
>
> Nil seen this morning - guess will have to wait until darkness.
>
> I tried putting the numbers into the late G4FGQ's Grndwav3 ground-wave
> calculating software. Assuming about 660km G3KEV - GM4SLV, 100mW ERP
(=55mW
> EMRP)and a sea path the whole way virtually, the received signal level
> should be about 0.7uV/m,  which might be audible on a quiet band. For
inland
> stations, the ground wave losses increase a lot, so some sort of
ionospheric
> propagation probably will be essential for a successful QSO.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>
>



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This was sent in April but don't think it got through - might still be =
of interest to someone.
Scaled version of 160/80m qrp tx's - the voltage-amp was designed for an =
8Mc fet-vfo,
with divider driving VMOS PA gate, so will also work with 4/8Mc =
vfo's/xtals/Cer-Resonators.
Mini Tx fits in pocket.
72, Rog.
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Dear LF, Jeff,

F6BWO "M" > "O" copy this morning on 137,690. Would be a solid "O" copy,
except for the lORAN line on the same frequency and a some static crashes
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Screenshot attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Nice copy this afternoon of SAQ 
This morning reception with VLF loop directly to sound card.Not specialy  
good.
 
This afternoon more than 20 dB SNR:
Antenna: VLF "Easyloop" with pramplifier OP27
RX: Yeasu FT80C (600 Hz CW filter) with up converter on 18 MHz.
 
Thanx very much to all Grimeton's team.
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP



   

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<DIV>Nice&nbsp;copy this afternoon of SAQ </DIV>
<DIV>This morning reception with VLF loop directly to sound card.Not special=
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<DIV>This afternoon more than 20 dB SNR:</DIV>
<DIV>Antenna: VLF "Easyloop" with pramplifier OP27</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanx very much to all Grimeton's team.</DIV>
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Hi again, Vic.

Start with getting an antenna up, and then take it from there. The need for
a preselector is primarily to protect your RX front end from broadcast band
overload. If you have a tuned antenna, you may not need one, at least to get
you started.

The 180ft long wire should be fine. You will need to resonate it with a
biggish coil. It's the height that matters, because most of the radiation is
done by the vertical section. The horizontal bits just act as capacity
top-loading. There is some useful data on G3YXM's site.

http://www.wireless.org.uk/geton501.htm

I use one of the late G4FGG's little programs called "TANT136.exe" also
available from Dave's site

http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/page3.html

Start listening around, once you have got your antenna set up and resonated.
You can use the regular NAVTEX transmissions on 518 kHz to tweak the tuning,
then look for a weak, steady carrier on 504.0 khz - this is the second
harmonic of Atlantic 252 on 252 kHz, and is usually visible. Most amateur CW
activity seems to be centred around 502 to 502.5 kHz, with slow-speed (QRSS)
beacon transmissions usually taking place between 503 and 503.7 kHz. but
there is no hard and fast bandplan. Some stations send CW beacon
transmissions at the bottom of the band. GW3UEP, for instance, usually
transmits a CW beacon around 501.10 kHz.

A quick e-mail to the reflector will usually elicit a response, and you can
also check out Dave's 500 kHz grabber. There's a bit of activity going on
right now. G3UNT and G3XIZ are having a CW natter on 502 - ish, and G0MRF
and G4WGT are both in beacon mode around 503.6 - 503.7.

http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/

I'll dig out the TX scan, and send it direct. Gary G4WGT is also using a
similar design.

Ah, yes...you'll need to apply for a NOV as well. Don't leave it too
long....I think the trial period ends in March 2008!

73 and good luck,

Dave G3WCB IO91RM


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Vic@VicsFloridaVilla
  Sent: 17 July 2007 19:51
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: RE: LF 500khz


  Hi Dave,

  Many thanks for your reply and sincere apologies for this delayed
response - too much non radio work :-(   !!!

  I would ceratinly appreciate a scan of your tx design . That would give me
a good start. My design skills are rather limited - my only rf qualification
is the RAE which I tookin 1978 but I love tinkering and homebrew. Having
built a K2 and recently a KX1 I have gained a lot of confidence to have  a
crack at a 500khz rig. So far the transverter looks very promising.

  Having followed the postings on the reflector I agree a pre selector on rx
looks essential and I think a resonant antenna. But some stations seem to
get quite good results with fairly modest antennas so there is hope !

  My progress on 500 will be slow due to other comittments but I am
determined to put out a signal on that band !

  Many thanks again !

  73,

  Vic

  GW4JUN
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dave G3WCB
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:33 PM
    Subject: LF: RE: LF 500khz


    Hi, Vic.

    I've got no experince with the K2, but you'll probably need a
pre-selector to get the best performance out of your rig on 500 kHz. I use a
simple design with a fet front end, which can be found on G3YXM's web-site:-
http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm   I substituted a J310 fet for the
BF245, and used IFTs from a junked transistor radio for the inductors. My RX
is an Icom IC-PCR1000 which is okay, but the IF filter is a bit wide for
close-in CW work.

    For transmitting, I use a design by DF3LP, which was originally for 137
kHz http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html   It uses an IRF 540
FET as the output stage, and I have no trouble getting 25W into 50 ohms from
a 12VDC supply, although you may not need this much power to hit the 100 mW
ERP limit if you have a reasonable antenna.

    You can scavenge most of the bits for nothing from scrap PC power
supplies, including the case and fan!

    The DF3LP TX design uses a crystal-mixer VFO, but you could omit this
and feed your 1mW straight into the second BC549 transistor. You'd need to
re-do the pi-section filters for operation at 500 kHz, but you just need to
scale the inductance value by the ratio 137/500. I've got a scanned copy of
my TX circuit if you are interested.

    Quite a few 500 kHz OPS are using valve TXs, with bottles like ECL82,
and 2E26s. It just depends what you are happiest using!

    73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Vic@VicsFloridaVilla
      Sent: 19 May 2007 21:05
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
      Subject: LF: LF 500khz


      Hi Folks,


      Joined the list a couple of weeks ago amd enjoying reading all the
postings but this is my first posting.

      I am planning to use my Elecraft K2 to drive a homebrew transverter to
give me a 500khz capability. I have the transverter interface board in the
K2 so have a 1mW output available.

      So far I hace lashed up a 28Mhz xtal oscillator and a home brew diode
ring mixer. Feeding these through a G0MRF 7 element Low  Pass Filter I
tested it the other night and it works ! Wow. Nice clean cw and ssb on
500khz (feeding directly into my receiver....probably the first and last
time I'll hear ssb on 500khz !!) Amazing carrier suppression on ssb - really
impressive for 4 IN4148 diodes and a couple of FT50-43 cores. Plenty of
attenuation of 1000khz and 1500khz harmonics. It's looking good !

      Just tried it on receive and it does work but signals very weak. With
the K2 pre amp on I can hear MSF 60Khz at S1 , Loran 100Khz at S4, BBc R4
198Khz at S9, plus a few other data type sigs below 150khz. Heard nothing on
500Khz . I can hear a strong intermittent data type signal on about 518Khz
Plenty of noise when I connect the antenna though. Looks like I may need to
work on the antenna and maybe some receive amplification .

      I'm thrilled with all this so far  but now I need some help with the
rest of the system.

      So a few questions for you all, and any ideas and suggestions
gratefully received !

      1) Can anyone point me to any designs for a pa suitable for 500khz.
Something around 5 - 10 watts output from about 1mW input would be great. I
am not very knowledgable on electronics but I love tinkering so something
which is easy to get going would be good. I imagine at 500khz it should not
be too difficult.

      2) Has anyone on the list used a K2 with the transverter board to
drive a transveter ? I can get a full 1mW tx output into a 50 ohm dummy load
(as per the construction manual) but when driving my homebrew ring mixer I
can only get about 0.3 mW maximum. I wonder if there is an impedance
mismatch which is loading the K2 output.  The K2 is connected directly to
the mixer.  My mixer has six trifilar turns on a FT50-43 at each end. It
clearly works well but I think I'll need to get the level up a bit at some
point.

      3) Thinking ahead to antennas.....I'll need to do something to
resonate my 180 ft Inv L . I 'll probably stick a big loading coil in it
somewhere but I have no idea how much L I'll need . Is there any software
out there which will help me with this ?

      Meanwhile I'll press on with the band pass filter which is not working
so well . Time for a tinker !!

      TIA

      73,

      Vic GW4JUN

      Halkyn North Wales IO83JF


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biggish=20
coil. It's the height that matters, because most of the radiation is =
done by the=20
vertical section. The horizontal bits just act as capacity top-loading. =
There is=20
some useful data on G3YXM's site.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/geton501.htm =
">http://www.wireless.org.uk/geton501.htm=20
</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
use&nbsp;one of the late&nbsp;G4FGG's little programs called =
"TANT136.exe" also=20
available from Dave's site</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/g4fgq/page3.html">http://www.wireless.=
org.uk/g4fgq/page3.html</A>=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Start=20
listening around, once you have got your antenna set up and resonated. =
You can=20
use the regular NAVTEX transmissions on 518 kHz to tweak the tuning, =
then look=20
for a weak, steady carrier on 504.0 khz - this is the second harmonic of =

Atlantic 252 on 252 kHz, and is usually visible. Most amateur CW =
activity seems=20
to be centred around 502 to 502.5 kHz, with slow-speed (QRSS) beacon=20
transmissions usually taking place between 503 and 503.7 kHz. but there =
is no=20
hard and fast bandplan. Some stations send CW beacon transmissions at =
the bottom=20
of the band. GW3UEP, for instance, usually transmits a CW beacon around=20
501.10&nbsp;kHz.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>A=20
quick e-mail to the reflector will usually elicit a response, and you =
can also=20
check out Dave's 500 kHz grabber. There's a bit of activity going on =
right now.=20
G3UNT and G3XIZ are having a CW natter on 502 - ish, and G0MRF and G4WGT =
are=20
both in beacon mode around 503.6 - 503.7.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab=
/</A>&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I'll=20
dig out the TX scan, and send it direct. Gary G4WGT is also using a =
similar=20
design.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Ah,=20
yes...you'll need to apply for a NOV as well. Don't leave it too =
long....I think=20
the trial period ends in March 2008!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>73 and=20
good luck,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Dave=20
G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D708432619-17072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Vic@VicsFloridaVilla<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 July 2007 =
19:51<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: LF=20
  500khz<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi Dave,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Many thanks for your reply =
and sincere=20
  apologies for this delayed response - too much non radio work =
:-(&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I would ceratinly =
appreciate a scan of=20
  your tx design . That would give me a good start. My design skills are =
rather=20
  limited - my only rf qualification is the RAE which I tookin 1978 but =
I love=20
  tinkering and homebrew. Having built a K2 and recently a KX1 I have =
gained a=20
  lot of confidence to have&nbsp; a crack at a 500khz rig. So far the=20
  transverter looks very promising. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Having followed the =
postings on the=20
  reflector I agree a pre selector on rx looks essential and I think a =
resonant=20
  antenna. But some stations seem to get quite good results with fairly =
modest=20
  antennas so there is hope !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>My progress on 500 will be =
slow due to=20
  other comittments but I am determined to put out a signal on that band =

  !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Many thanks again =
!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>73,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Vic </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>GW4JUN</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2007 =
11:33=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: LF =
500khz</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>Hi, Vic.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>I've got no experince with the K2, but =
you'll=20
    probably need a pre-selector to get the best performance out of your =
rig on=20
    500 kHz.&nbsp;I use a simple design with a fet front end, which can =
be found=20
    on G3YXM's web-site:-&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2><SPAN class=3D291431222-19052007><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm">http://www.wireless.org=
.uk/circuits2.htm</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    I substituted a J310 fet for the BF245, and used IFTs from a junked=20
    transistor radio for the inductors. My RX is an Icom IC-PCR1000 =
which is=20
    okay, but the IF filter&nbsp;is a bit wide for close-in CW=20
    work.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>For transmitting, I use a design by =
DF3LP, which=20
    was originally for 137 kHz </SPAN></FONT><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    =
size=3D2>http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
    face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;<SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>&nbsp; It uses an IRF 540 FET as the =
output stage,=20
    and I have no trouble getting 25W into 50 ohms from a 12VDC supply, =
although=20
    you may not need&nbsp;this much power to hit the 100 mW ERP limit if =
you=20
    have a reasonable antenna.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>You can scavenge most of the bits for =
nothing from=20
    scrap PC power supplies, including the case and=20
    fan!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>The DF3LP TX design uses a crystal-mixer =
VFO, but=20
    you could omit this and feed your 1mW straight into the second BC549 =

    transistor. You'd need to re-do the pi-section filters for operation =
at 500=20
    kHz, but you just need to scale the inductance value by the=20
    ratio&nbsp;137/500.&nbsp;I've got a scanned copy of my TX circuit if =
you are=20
    interested.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>Quite a few 500 kHz OPS are using valve =
TXs, with=20
    bottles like ECL82, and 2E26s. It just depends what you are happiest =

    using!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D291431222-19052007>73, Dave G3WCB=20
    IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
      </B>Vic@VicsFloridaVilla<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 May 2007 =
21:05<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: LF=20
      500khz<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi Folks,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Joined the list a =
couple of weeks=20
      ago amd enjoying reading all the postings but this&nbsp;is my =
first=20
      posting.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I am planning to use my =
Elecraft K2=20
      to drive a homebrew transverter to give me a 500khz capability. I =
have the=20
      transverter interface board in the K2 so have a 1mW output=20
      available.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So far I hace lashed up =
a 28Mhz=20
      xtal oscillator and a home brew diode ring mixer. Feeding these =
through a=20
      G0MRF 7 element Low&nbsp; Pass Filter I tested it the other night =
and it=20
      works ! Wow. Nice clean cw and ssb on 500khz (feeding directly =
into my=20
      receiver....probably the first and last time I'll hear ssb on =
500khz !!)=20
      Amazing carrier suppression on ssb - really impressive for 4 =
IN4148 diodes=20
      and a couple of FT50-43 cores. Plenty of attenuation of 1000khz =
and=20
      1500khz harmonics. It's looking good !</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Just tried it on =
receive and it=20
      does work but signals very weak. With the K2 pre amp on I can hear =
MSF=20
      60Khz at S1&nbsp;, Loran 100Khz at S4, BBc R4 198Khz at S9, plus a =
few=20
      other data type sigs below 150khz. Heard nothing on 500Khz . I can =
hear a=20
      strong intermittent data type signal on about 518Khz&nbsp;Plenty =
of noise=20
      when&nbsp;I connect the antenna though. Looks like I may need to =
work on=20
      the antenna and maybe some receive amplification .</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I'm thrilled with all =
this so=20
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      </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So a few questions for =
you all, and=20
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      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>1) Can anyone point me =
to any=20
      designs for a pa suitable for 500khz. Something around 5 - 10 =
watts output=20
      from about 1mW input would be great. I am not very knowledgable on =

      electronics but I love tinkering so something which is easy to get =
going=20
      would be good. I imagine at 500khz it should not be too=20
      difficult.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>2) Has anyone on the =
list used a K2=20
      with the transverter board to drive a transveter ? I can get a =
full 1mW tx=20
      output into a 50 ohm dummy load (as per the construction manual) =
but when=20
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maximum. I=20
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      output.&nbsp; The K2 is connected directly to the mixer. &nbsp;My =
mixer=20
      has six trifilar turns on a FT50-43 at each end. It clearly works =
well but=20
      I think I'll need to get the level up a bit at some point. =
</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>3) Thinking ahead to=20
      antennas.....I'll need to do something to resonate my 180 ft Inv L =
. I 'll=20
      probably stick a big loading coil in it somewhere but I have no =
idea how=20
      much L I'll need . Is there any software out there which will help =
me with=20
      this ?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Meanwhile I'll press on =
with the=20
      band pass filter which is not working so well . Time for a tinker=20
      !!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>TIA</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>73,</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Vic GW4JUN</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Halkyn North Wales=20
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So far this morning good signals from G3UNT and G4GDR and a readable sig
from G3OLB.
I hope to get on a bit later when this thunderstorm has passed!

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So far this morning good signals from G3UNT and G4GDR and a readable sig from G3OLB.<br>I hope to get on a bit later when this thunderstorm has passed!<br clear="all"><br>73 Dave.<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Dave 'YXM - nice 589 here.
Dave 'YMC - I had finger trouble with my filters last night - put 500Hz CW 
filter in, then shifted the IF shift so I wasn't hearing anything. Quite 
clever! Finbar has been on and off this morning.

Cherrs
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
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> On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:34, Tom Boucher wrote:
>
>> Strange band this one. No one can hear anyone else! G3UNT and G4GDR
>> are currently calling CQ on top of one another! 559 and 579
>> respectively.
>>
>> Tom G3OLB
>
> Yes I know Tom, called both of them many times and no response... The
> other night Chris G3XIZ told Adrian I had called him and put it over
> to me - then Adrian doubled with my transmission. Rather strange when
> I can have solid chats with Chris yet others hear not a trace...
>
> There was a touch of this effect last night Tom in the 80m Club
> Challenge contest. Before we worked I had called you several times up
> and down the band with no response. At one time there was quite a
> pilup calling you which you obviously weren't hearing. Did you have
> thunder static down there?
>
> Can't hear Finbar at the moment down in Bracknell, guess its a bit
> far for daylight.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
> 



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On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:34, Tom Boucher wrote:

> Strange band this one. No one can hear anyone else! G3UNT and G4GDR
> are currently calling CQ on top of one another! 559 and 579
> respectively.
> 
> Tom G3OLB

Yes I know Tom, called both of them many times and no response... The 
other night Chris G3XIZ told Adrian I had called him and put it over 
to me - then Adrian doubled with my transmission. Rather strange when 
I can have solid chats with Chris yet others hear not a trace...

There was a touch of this effect last night Tom in the 80m Club 
Challenge contest. Before we worked I had called you several times up 
and down the band with no response. At one time there was quite a 
pilup calling you which you obviously weren't hearing. Did you have 
thunder static down there?

Can't hear Finbar at the moment down in Bracknell, guess its a bit 
far for daylight.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Its all down to the antennas and ground systems!
 
73  Colin VTT
 
In a message dated 03/07/2007 11:36:01 GMT Standard Time,  
tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk writes:

Strange  band this one. No one can hear anyone else! G3UNT and G4GDR are 
currently  calling CQ on top of one another! 559 and 579 respectively.

Tom  G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Probert"  <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottages.com>
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> Finbar is 579 daytime   599 during the night.
>
> Mike  GW4HXO.
>  
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Strange band this one. No one can hear anyone else! G3UNT and G4GDR are 
currently calling CQ on top of one another! 559 and 579 respectively.

Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Finbar is 579 daytime    599 during the night.
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> Mike  GW4HXO.
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> Finbar GI4DPE beaconing on 501.05 this morning, copyable at about 549 
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He's moved up a little to 501.19 according to my calibration. First time 
I've heard him on 500. Appears to have some QSB.

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Thanks Dave  GW4HXO--- qsy hf--503.8

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> Would appreciate comp reports pls.
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> HXO on 503.7
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> Tks, Rog

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On 22 Jul 2007 at 14:07, Gw3UEP wrote:

> Would appreciate comp reports pls.
> 
> HXO on 503.7
> UEP o 501.5
> 
> Tks, Rog

'HXO 539 but flattened by a 599 G0MRF on top
'UEP 319

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Would appreciate comp reports pls.

HXO on 503.7
UEP o 501.5

Tks, Rog
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Oooppssssss! I was not to be awaked when I looked at the=20
grabber!!!!..... John , thanks for having pointed out it to me.

73 all J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> The W3EEE grabbers are off-line, so the screen is from the night=20
> before. XNS was not on last night, and XES only operated for the short=20
> time you saw. Operation for the next two nights will depend on weather.
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> Thanks!
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Jean-Pierre,

The W3EEE grabbers are off-line, so the screen is from the night before. 
XNS was not on last night, and XES only operated for the short time you 
saw. Operation for the next two nights will depend on weather.

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Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 01:00 => 02:30 (small signal !)
WD2XNS Nothing here (under operation, seen on grabber W3EEE)

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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Hello Dave & Dave,

I forgot to mention that the previous screenshot was taken with an =
AR7030 and 2.4 kHz bandwidth in QRS-3.
The current attached screenshot of G3CWB was made with my SPM-30 =
followed by a 12 Hz audio filter in QRS-3. Note that the little blue =
blurrs are ringing artefacts caused by noise bursts on the band.

The screenshot of G3YXM displays the CW ID in normal speed, taken with =
ARGO in Mode CW(NDB). Also using a 12 Hz wide audio filter.

This demonstrates the benefits of using narrow audio filters.

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:56 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 500 condx
  Rog hrd u at abt 2200z on beacon mode abtr 559
  Condx have been vy good lately but today signals seem down again, the =
flood plains are disappearing, no more sea path.

  73 mal/g3kev


  Mal, Wonder what time you hrd me pls?  My ERP is now +6dB on previous =
level since March.
  Rog
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: hamilton mal=20
  To: rsgb=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:24 PM
  Subject: LF: 500 condx


  Hi All
  Condx on 500 have been above average recently and I could hear GW3UEP, =
who I
  normally do not hear, also G0NBD for the first time.
  The vy wet WX must be enhancing our earthing systems and contributing =
to
  propagated signals, similar to a sea path.
  When it all dries up it will be back to normal.
  73 de Mal/G3KEV


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rog hrd u at abt 2200z on beacon mode =
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  559</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Condx have been =
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  today signals&nbsp;seem down again, the flood plains are disappearing, =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mal, Wonder what time you hrd me =
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  ERP is now +6dB on previous level since March.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:24 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500 condx</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi All<BR>Condx on 500 have been above average recently =
and I=20
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Thanks from me also Dave.=20

It's a strange band with lots of stations obviously unable to hear each =
other! As yet, I have done no work on antennas for 500Kc/s and am just =
using a rather nondescript piece of wire, which I use as a general =
purpose back-up antenna. It slopes up from the shack to a tree and is =
around 140' long. Having said that, I do have a recording of my 160 =
metre signals as received by ZL3IX last year, when I was using the same =
piece of wire, so it can't be that bad!

Look forward to working you on 500.

73
Tom G3OLB
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ColePe@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: [500] 502 kHz test from G3JFS <OLB, AQC and VTT also>


  Hi Dave,

  Thanks for your e-mail.  Its nice to get a report, even a local one, =
as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any =
reponse that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of time =
from Plymouth.  When considering the very few stations I have heard at =
workable strength, and more so on the ones that I can't hear or even =
detect on spectran, I am convinced that Dartmoor and the hilly ground =
around my qth have a very serious effect on 500 kHz propagation.=20
  So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have worked and the =
loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and GW4HXO =
in daylight.  The path to both of these stations is relatively clear as =
it passes along the Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain of =
western Dartmoor.  G3OLB is relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a =
straight line, and is readable in day time although weak at times. I was =
quite surprised when G3AQC called me after my contact with Tom as it was =
in the afternoon and he was a good 559.  The route to Chichester, about =
150 miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives an idea of the =
possibilies over a good path.  G3VTT was active at the same time as =
G3AQC but I could not find a trace of his signal on spectran.=20

  Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies from =
501.34 - 503.86 kHz.=20

  Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one day.

  73 Peter, G3JFS


  In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time, =
ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:
    Hi, Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,

    I've just got back from a few days holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 =
unread
    e-mails from the LF reflector when I got home today...). I heard =
your QSO
    with Tom, G3OLB, and then your QSO with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 =
on a 1.8m
    tuned loop, Tom was 539 and Laurie was 559.

    I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode several times. The =
RX
    set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I seemed the hear =
you on a
    different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one occasion at 2210 =
hours local
    on the 4th July. Do you actually have more than one TX frequency, or =
is my
    "Driftomatic" RX telling me fibs?

    The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT calling CQ =
on 4th
    July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's =
callsign
    during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I only =
heard it
    once.

    73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave =
Sergeant
    Sent: 30 June 2007 16:56
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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<DIV>Thanks from me also Dave. </DIV>
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<DIV>It's a strange band with lots of stations obviously unable to hear =
each=20
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just=20
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can't be that bad!</DIV>
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<DIV>Look forward to working you on 500.</DIV>
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  as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any=20
  reponse&nbsp;that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of =
time=20
  from Plymouth.&nbsp; When considering the very few stations I have =
heard at=20
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detect on=20
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qth have=20
  a very serious&nbsp;effect&nbsp;on 500 kHz propagation. </DIV>
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worked&nbsp;and=20
  the loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and =
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  in daylight.&nbsp; The path to both of these stations is relatively =
clear as=20
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of=20
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  straight line, and is readable in day time&nbsp;although weak at =
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from=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one =
day.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 Peter, G3JFS</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time,=20
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    Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,<BR><BR>I've just got back from a few =
days=20
    holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread<BR>e-mails from the LF =
reflector=20
    when I got home today...). I heard your QSO<BR>with Tom, G3OLB, and =
then=20
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Tom was=20
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beacon=20
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crummy,=20
    but I seemed the hear you on a<BR>different frequency nearer to =
503.0 kHz on=20
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have=20
    more than one TX frequency, or is my<BR>"Driftomatic" RX telling me=20
    fibs?<BR><BR>The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin =
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heard Jim=20
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Hi Dave,
 
Thanks for your e-mail.  Its nice to get a report, even a local one,  as I 
have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any  reponse that I 
am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of time from  Plymouth.  When 
considering the very few stations I have heard at workable  strength, and 
more so on the ones that I can't hear or even detect on spectran,  I am convinced 
that Dartmoor and the hilly ground around my qth have a very  serious effect 
on 500 kHz propagation. 
So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have worked and the  loudest 
signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and GW4HXO in  daylight.  
The path to both of these stations is relatively clear as it  passes along the 
Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain of western  Dartmoor.  G3OLB is 
relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a straight line,  and is readable in day 
time although weak at times. I was quite  surprised when G3AQC called me after 
my contact with Tom as it was in the  afternoon and he was a good 559.  The 
route to Chichester, about 150  miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives 
an idea of the possibilies  over a good path.  G3VTT was active at the same 
time as G3AQC but I  could not find a trace of his signal on spectran. 
 
Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies from  501.34 - 
503.86 kHz. 
 
Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one day.
 
73 Peter, G3JFS
 
 
In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time,  
ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:

Hi,  Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,

I've just got back from a few days  holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread
e-mails from the LF reflector when  I got home today...). I heard your QSO
with Tom, G3OLB, and then your QSO  with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 on a 1.8m
tuned loop, Tom was 539 and  Laurie was 559.

I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode  several times. The RX
set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I  seemed the hear you on a
different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one  occasion at 2210 hours local
on the 4th July. Do you actually have more  than one TX frequency, or is my
"Driftomatic" RX telling me  fibs?

The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT calling  CQ on 4th
July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's  callsign
during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I only  heard it
once.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original  Message-----
From:  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On  Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
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To:  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Hi, Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,

I've just got back from a few days holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread
e-mails from the LF reflector when I got home today...). I heard your QSO
with Tom, G3OLB, and then your QSO with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 on a 1.8m
tuned loop, Tom was 539 and Laurie was 559.

I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode several times. The RX
set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I seemed the hear you on a
different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one occasion at 2210 hours local
on the 4th July. Do you actually have more than one TX frequency, or is my
"Driftomatic" RX telling me fibs?

The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT calling CQ on 4th
July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's callsign
during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I only heard it
once.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Peter

While you were in QSO with Tom this afternoon I thought I could just
detect traces of you way down in the noise. Tom was 569 and G3AQC
589. I did call Tom after his CQ call but obviously you were a little
stronger with him...

73 Dave G3YMC


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Yes please.

73 de John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 01/07/2007 at 23:31 begu@algonet.se wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have recorded SAQ transmission today, it's a mp3 file 7 min 835 kB 
>(855=A0552 byte).
>If someone is interested please give me a line and i mail it dierect.
>
>73 de Gus SM6BHZ







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Hi all,

I have recorded SAQ transmission today, it's a mp3 file 7 min 835 kB=20
(855=A0552 byte).
If someone is interested please give me a line and i mail it dierect.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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That's good news John and most encouraging.
Many thanks.

Things can only get better - HI !

73 Chris G3XIZ

John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:20:58 +0100 (BST)
CHRISTOPHER OSBORN  wrote:

> I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz shortly.
> I will of course answer any 'straight' CW calls.
> 
> 73 Chris G3XIZ
> 


Hi Chris,

I'm actually seeing you for the first time up in Shetland, not bad
considering it's still daylight here.

Not too strong but legible on SpecLab.

Cheers,

John

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That's good news John and most encouraging.<br>Many thanks.<br><br>Things can only get better - HI !<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>John GM4SLV &lt;gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:20:58 +0100 (BST)<br>CHRISTOPHER OSBORN <c.cjo@btinternet.com> wrote:<br><br>&gt; I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz shortly.<br>&gt; I will of course answer any 'straight' CW calls.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 73 Chris G3XIZ<br>&gt; <br><br><br>Hi Chris,<br><br>I'm actually seeing you for the first time up in Shetland, not bad<br>considering it's still daylight here.<br><br>Not too strong but legible on SpecLab.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John<br><br>-- <br>G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214<br>Member : RSGB, ARRL<br>Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG <br>Lerwick Radio Club :
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:20:58 +0100 (BST)
CHRISTOPHER OSBORN <c.cjo@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz shortly.
> I will of course answer any 'straight' CW calls.
> 
> 73 Chris G3XIZ
> 


Hi Chris,

I'm actually seeing you for the first time up in Shetland, not bad
considering it's still daylight here.

Not too strong but legible on SpecLab.

Cheers,

John

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Thank you, Victor.

Nice screen grab. I'll go back to QRSS3 until 1500utc.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM 

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Not too easy Dave, but a good try. This is the result...... 

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and its not exactly a GUI interface is it?

I do feel things have moved on else where since Bill Gates 
invented DOS in his garage back in 1980....  hee hee :-)

Best 73 petefmt


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Hi Johan

The big trouble with The Black sheep reflector is that you 
can not build a body of infomation at the site. Its just 
emails. You cannot, store files, pictures etc as a body of 
collected information that can, say be tawled for circuits 
about 500 or antenna designs or user info like G3XIZ's 
activity spread sheet. You have to search individual Emails 
and then in most cases Hyperlink to other web sites.

I did not start the Google presence but I can see it has the 
potential for much more facility than Black Sheep. 

I know there is always resistance to change but I personally 
feel this method of comminication was OK but there are 
alternatives with more facility now.

This mail will no doubt bring a howl of protest but both 
systems can rub along and if the Google does not attract a 
critical mass, then so be it.

best 73 petefmt


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Hi Dave,

I agree 110% with you.

We already have the RSGB LF and the U.S. Lowfer reflectors and
most LF enthusiasts seem to be there already, with some overlap.
We don't need another forum. These days we are drowning in
information, let's keep all the info' in one (or two) easily
accessable spot(s). If this "mail reflector inflation" continues,
we will soon have one reflector per message and at the end of
time we will have one reflector per letter typed. :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


Dave Sergeant wrote:
> This reflector has long been the place where UK LF people exchange 
> ideas and is doing an excellent job on 500kHz as well. We do not need 
> another one as well, which will only lead to confusion and different 
> objectives.




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I assume from the title of the group that this refers to the UK 
500kHz band, but who on earth are Peter and Graham? No callsigns. 
Where are they if all they hear is on the noise floor?

This reflector has long been the place where UK LF people exchange 
ideas and is doing an excellent job on 500kHz as well. We do not need 
another one as well, which will only lead to confusion and different 
objectives. I assume it is also NOT a news group - nttp://news....

PLEASE get them to join this reflector instead.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 19 Jul 2007 at 22:28, m0fmt@beeb.net wrote:

> Dear all LFers
> See below a dedicated 500kc/s group... 
> 
> Peter
> Still not seeing too much activity  , some odd signals 
> floating about, but
> everything is in the noise floor and can only be observed 
> using 'spectrum
> plot'.
> 
> having a bash at narrow band data with  g4wgt
> 
> 
> Ive made a news group on google groups  called   uk500khz , 
> its  fully open
> , I thought it might be a good idea so swls etc could post 
> to  it allong
> with any operators etc , ill post a few pointers in the 
> other ham groups ,
> see what happens ,
> 
> comments welcome ..
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/topics
> 
> Might give a better access to people wanting to join in ?
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Graham
> 
> 


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Hi Warren 

Yes your contributions are very welcome, especially the US 
perspective. So far its a small group started by Graham.

The UK 500Kc/s has many SWLs in Europe their contributions 
are also very welcome and looked forward to.

Follow the URL and join the group.

Vy 73 petefmt


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Graham, Peter,

      Is this forum available for 500kHz experimenters outside of the U.K.?

--
73 Warren K2ORS

FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: <m0fmt@beeb.net>
> Dear all LFers
> See below a dedicated 500kc/s group... 
> 
> Peter
> Still not seeing too much activity  , some odd signals 
> floating about, but
> everything is in the noise floor and can only be observed 
> using 'spectrum
> plot'.
> 
> having a bash at narrow band data with  g4wgt
> 
> 
> Ive made a news group on google groups  called   uk500khz , 
> its  fully open
> , I thought it might be a good idea so swls etc could post 
> to  it allong
> with any operators etc , ill post a few pointers in the 
> other ham groups ,
> see what happens ,
> 
> comments welcome ..
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/topics
> 
> Might give a better access to people wanting to join in ?
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Graham
> 
> 



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Dear all LFers
See below a dedicated 500kc/s group... 

Peter
Still not seeing too much activity  , some odd signals 
floating about, but
everything is in the noise floor and can only be observed 
using 'spectrum
plot'.

having a bash at narrow band data with  g4wgt


Ive made a news group on google groups  called   uk500khz , 
its  fully open
, I thought it might be a good idea so swls etc could post 
to  it allong
with any operators etc , ill post a few pointers in the 
other ham groups ,
see what happens ,

comments welcome ..

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/topics

Might give a better access to people wanting to join in ?

Rgds

Graham



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Laurence, Jim, Alan,

The signal Laurence mentioned is definitely visible here on an Argo 
3-second screen, on both frequencies. However, it is much weaker than 
DCF39, which is quite audible at 0100.

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Dear Laurence, LF Group,

It is visible here about 30dB below the DCF39 "carrier" at the moment. It Is
fading in a DX-like way.As far as I can tell, it seems to be east of here. I
have sometimes seen a continuous carrier around 138.96k, but I have not seen
the modulation before.

BTW - Is the Rugby Loran QRT ? - seems to be less clatter here than normal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> DCF39 getting battered by qrn, but Im now getting another new fsk signal
on
> mark/space 139.040 138.962 - it has a slow qsb signature similar to dcf39
so
> looks real enough. Wonder if anyone else is seeing it? Its about the same
> strength as dcf39/budapest ie about S7 at the moment..I cant find another
> signal that it may be a product with at this time,
>
>
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> Laurence 9V1LF
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Hi Willem.

You just caught the end of my DFCW3 test transmission on 137,695.

73, Dave G2WCB IO91RM
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Hi Dave, LF,

Well I am quite amazed, I was really surprised when I saw it show up on 
Dave's (G3YXM)  grabber.
The PA DC input is 2.5 watts (2.5 volts at 1A) the antenna current is about 
0.05 A

Distance to you is about 274 kms.

Thanks for your report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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> Hi Gary, LF.
>
> I can see your signal...it's only about "T" copy, but it's definitely 
> there.
> I'll keep watching and see if it improves as darkness falls.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 20 July 2007 20:46
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> Hi LF,
>
> For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on
> 503.600 KHz at QRP level
> ie. 1 mW ERP
>
> Reports will be most welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
> 



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Hi Dave
I guess it is Lessay that I am receiving as a closer examination only 
shows 3.3uv  S4 on the Winradio 313 meter.
My apologies
dave G8SZX

Dave Pick wrote:
> Strange.. Is it going off and on?
> I can't hear it here at the moment. Not on 136 anyway, obviously I can 
> hear Lessay etc on 100kHz.
> Noise level on 136 falls to S3 in CW b/w between the static crashes. 
> What joy!
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I guess it is Lessay that I am receiving as a closer examination only
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My apologies<br>
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I can't hear it here at the moment. Not on 136 anyway, obviously I can
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Noise level on 136 falls to S3 in CW b/w between the static crashes.
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It is on at this time
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> Has anyone else noticed that Rugby Loran has gone off?
> If it weren't for the static it would be lovely and quiet!
> It was supposed to stay on until the end of the month...
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It is on at this time<br>
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Has anyone else noticed that Rugby Loran has gone off?
If it weren't for the static it would be lovely and quiet!
It was supposed to stay on until the end of the month...

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Dave
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Has anyone else noticed that Rugby Loran has gone off?<br>If it weren&#39;t for the static it would be lovely and quiet!<br>It was supposed to stay on until the end of the month...<br clear="all"><br>73 <br>Dave<br>-- <br>
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Lol

Yes sorted that out b4 , fine on hafield, used to  pass that way a long =
time ago, never seen such a wide road, but was not the pub at the side =
of the road, last time i passed looked to  be in the middle of a housing =
estate ?

Q  whats the pre-amble on your message ?=20

Tnx - G ..=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Moritz=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:24 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


  Dear Graham, LF group,

  Delete the "G" and you get M0BMU :-) Thanks for the report - QTH here =
is IO91VR, near Hatfield, about 25km north of London.

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:51 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


    G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk  looks like  501.4 Khz=20

    gm0bmu ,  439  qra , io91br    , 503.8  khz=20

    two other traces  100 hz hf  and 100 hz lf of 501.4 ,but too week to =
 catch call's=20

    G ..=20


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Graham=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:59 PM
      Subject: LF: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


      Hi All,



      Beacon Keeper's : Beacon schedule page, google group -uk500khz-



      http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule



      If your running a beacon, please indicate your approximate or =
expected operating times. If your not on the list, or the data is wrong, =
please add or amend  your details.=20



      The page is open so  you can update it as the situation changes=20

      =20

      Tnx G..=20









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lol</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes sorted that out b4 , fine on =
hafield, used=20
to&nbsp; pass that way a long time ago, never seen such a wide road, but =
was not=20
the pub at the side of the road, last time i passed looked to&nbsp; be =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Q&nbsp; whats the pre-amble on your =
message ?=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - G .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 =
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PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: Re: LF : =
Beacon=20
  Keeper's </DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Graham, LF group,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Delete the "G" and you get =
M0BMU&nbsp;:-) Thanks=20
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of=20
  London.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk&nbsp; =
looks=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gm0bmu ,&nbsp; 439&nbsp; qra ,=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two other traces&nbsp; 100 =
hz&nbsp;hf &nbsp;and=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Beacon Keeper's=20
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny and Willem for last night's reports. XES 
operation for the next few days will depend on local weather.

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Hello T/A !

The stormy situation is back, this night I returned on the K9AY

I copy WD2XES and WD2XNS

the captures of night are at :

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73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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Hi Dave do you have the manual ?? If not I can send you a PDF. Much smaller
than my dear friend "tractor boy"'s scan. Its the PS-3 I am after Dave (the
Kiwi).  I have had
one apart several times to try and fix a sticky meter movement and last time
It didnt cal. It might be that a wire is broken or a connection on the wrong
post (I have a feeling that is probably what I did)  You know the symptom
rebuild the engine for the fourth time sigh with relief bolt the bonnet back
on and then realise you didnt put the engine back in !! ....oh bother....
I'll do it tomorrow !!
The problem is you have to work out what you want to do because the modules
do swing out but you have to attack things in the right order.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: SPM-3 - deaf?


>
> Dear LFers,
>
> I have just acquired a Wandel & Golterman SPM-3, but it seems a bit deaf.
> The wide-band setting works OK, but the "Selective" channel can't be
> calibrated, and is 15 dB low in gain. Looks like a popped front-end or a
> damaged input circuit. I've opened up the case, but all the innards are in
> screened metal boxes.
>
> Is this a common fault with this unit, and does anyone have experience of
> this fault? (and managed to fix it!)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>




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Dave
I have the service manual for the SPM-3 here in electronic form - BUT- 
I have not processed the scans etc yet so it's still rather large at 
about 140MB total for all files. It should be somewhat smaller when I 
get the pdf generated.
However- I need threats of physical violence to encourage me to get on 
with this - I started this project for Alan (G3NYK) at least two years 
back and its still not finished!!
And -with apologies to HAL- 'I'm sorry, Dave', my SPM3 is still 
working fine so never had to dig into it.
73
(yet another) Dave
ZL3FJ

----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Dear LFers,
>
> I have just acquired a Wandel & Golterman SPM-3, but it seems a bit 
> deaf.
> The wide-band setting works OK, but the "Selective" channel can't be
> calibrated, and is 15 dB low in gain. Looks like a popped front-end 
> or a
> damaged input circuit. I've opened up the case, but all the innards 
> are in
> screened metal boxes.
>
> Is this a common fault with this unit, and does anyone have 
> experience of
> this fault? (and managed to fix it!)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>
>
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Reasons to be happy - it's sunny & no monsoon.

Dave,=20
Very interesting, tks for your precision observations.
Well spotted - but not c/heating.  Yes, there is quite a temp-swing in =
shack, also PA heatsink is VFO.

Do you have a high noise-level?
Surprised you didn't spot Mike who is usually stronger than me.
Pleased to be braking the E-W iron-curtain.
73, Rog


----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dave G3WCB=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


Rog, LF.

I've got a complete set of Argo grabs of the GW3UEP beacon covering the =
last 24 hrs. (34 MBs worth...too big to e-mail!)

1 The beacon is visible at this QTH for the complete 24h period, using =
Argo 3 sec/dot setting

2 Daytime levels seem weak but fairly constant, presumably ground-wave =
only propagation. Never strong enough to actually detect by ear.

3 The transition to night-time propagation commences as a series of =
fades with about a 5 - 10 minute cycle, starting at around 2200 utc

4 Signals then increase up to workable CW levels, maintaining good copy =
with slight QSB from 0030 until 0330utc

5 Signals fall to daytime levels fairly abruptly at around 0400 utc, and =
I think Rog's central heating kicks in around then, as the frequency =
goes for a little walk LF before settling down close to the 501.500 kHz =
nominal.

So, the best time to work to work GW - SE England seems to be between =
0030 and 0330 utc, when presumably skywave propagation is the dominant =
mechanism....no surprises there, I guess. At this distance, it's =
probably a single E-region hop. By contrast, the longer path to GM4SLV =
is probably 3 hops or more.

It will be interesting to see if the daytime signal levels hold up when =
Middle England has dried out a bit!=20

If Mike GW4HXO is in beacon mode over the next few days, I'll try and =
look for him. Nothing seen so far.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM=20
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 23 July 2007 06:35
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,

  Many thanks for your mails & reports, just collected  - had an early =
night after hard labour on Sunday.

  Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of Wales - I'm just warming up the =
trees here!

  FYI, since March have been QRP [6W from mini-Tx, via external LPF with =
1dB insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" buried coax to remote ATU].

  Last Thursday I routed the PA dc feed from 12V to the 22V =
pre-regulator supply & mini-tx now running happily with 20W o/p, after =
adding 15kuF smoothing.

  Then I removed the external -1dB LPF & still no sign of M/wave =
harmonics off-site; so +6dB overall increase.  I_ant now ~0.6A.

  Tx is still running on ~501.5.

  Tks for tests.

  73, Rog.

  Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is mimosa yellow, currently SORN, =
hope to MOT it soon.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 PM
  Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


  Hi Rog, LF

  Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just strong enough to be audible in =
peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you signal is =
definitely stronger.

  Still looking for GW4HXO...

  BTW, I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and =
all...

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


    Hi Rog,

    HXO -  RST 319 with QSB to 419 at times
    UEP - Just visible on SpecLab

    73

    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

     'HXO 539 but flattened by a 599 G0MRF on top
    'UEP 319

    73 Dave G3YMC Bracknell IO91PJ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Reasons to be happy - it's =
sunny&nbsp;&amp; no=20
monsoon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Very interesting, tks for your =
precision=20
observations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Well spotted - but not =
c/heating.&nbsp; Yes, there=20
is quite a temp-swing in shack, also PA heatsink is VFO.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Do you have a high =
noise-level?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Surprised you didn't spot Mike who is =
usually=20
stronger than me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Pleased to be braking the E-W=20
iron-curtain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com =
href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave=20
G3WCB</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 23, 2007 9:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>Rog,=20
LF.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>I've=20
got a complete set of Argo grabs of the GW3UEP beacon covering the last =
24 hrs.=20
(34 MBs worth...too big to e-mail!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>1 The=20
beacon is visible at this QTH for the complete 24h period, using Argo 3 =
sec/dot=20
setting</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007>2&nbsp;Daytime levels seem weak but fairly =
constant,=20
presumably ground-wave only propagation. Never strong enough to actually =
detect=20
by ear.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007>3&nbsp;The transition to night-time=20
propagation&nbsp;commences as a series of fades with about a 5 - 10 =
minute=20
cycle, starting at around&nbsp;2200 utc</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>4=20
Signals then increase up to workable CW levels,&nbsp;maintaining good =
copy with=20
slight QSB&nbsp;from 0030 until 0330utc</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>5=20
Signals fall to daytime levels fairly abruptly at around 0400 utc, and I =
think=20
Rog's central heating kicks in around then, as the frequency goes for a =
little=20
walk LF before settling down close to the 501.500 kHz=20
nominal.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>So,=20
the best time to work to work GW - SE England seems to be between 0030 =
and 0330=20
utc, when presumably skywave propagation is the dominant mechanism....no =

surprises there, I guess. At this distance, it's probably a single =
E-region hop.=20
By contrast, the longer path to GM4SLV is probably 3 hops or=20
more.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>It=20
will be interesting to see if the daytime signal levels hold up when =
Middle=20
England has dried out a bit! </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>If=20
Mike GW4HXO is in beacon mode over the next few days, I'll try and look =
for him.=20
Nothing seen so far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D366222020-23072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D366222020-23072007>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 July 2007 06:35<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [ 500]; Two =
GW's=20
  Testing...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Many thanks for your mails &amp; =
reports, just=20
  collected&nbsp; - had an early night after hard labour on =
Sunday.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of =
Wales - I'm=20
  just warming up the trees here!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>FYI, since March have been QRP [6W =
from mini-Tx,=20
  via external LPF with 1dB insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" =
buried coax=20
  to remote ATU].</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Last Thursday I&nbsp;routed the PA =
dc feed from=20
  12V to the 22V pre-regulator supply &amp; mini-tx now running happily =
with 20W=20
  o/p, after adding 15kuF smoothing.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;removed the =
external -1dB LPF=20
  &amp; still no sign of M/wave harmonics off-site; so&nbsp;+6dB overall =

  increase.&nbsp; I_ant now ~0.6A.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tx is still running on =
~501.5.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for tests.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is =
mimosa=20
  yellow, currently SORN, hope to MOT it soon.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D383061221-22072007>Hi=20
  Rog, LF</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007>Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just =
strong enough=20
  to be audible in peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I =
think you=20
  signal is definitely stronger.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007>Still looking for =
GW4HXO...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D383061221-22072007>BTW,=20
  I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and=20
  all...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D383061221-22072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D383061221-22072007>73,=20
  Dave G3WCB IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>Hi =
Rog,<BR><BR>HXO -&nbsp;=20
    RST 319 with QSB to 419 at times<BR>UEP - Just visible on=20
    SpecLab<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>&nbsp;'HXO 539 =
but=20
    flattened by a 599 G0MRF on top<BR>'UEP 319<BR><BR>73 Dave G3YMC =
Bracknell=20
    IO91PJ<BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Dave could I be cheeky and ask for a CD with those screens on? It is quite
difficult to get 24 hour copy of longer distance stations. I havent done the
sums but I am guessing that is too far for groundwave at this power level
and is probably much attenuated D-layer returns in daytime....but this is
what I am trying to get to grips with  :-))  Argo/SpecLab screens are not
ideal as the slope is very steep ( the dBs between no-signal and a solid
whiteline)

And no E-layer (altitude 100km) will support a 2000km single hop path
http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/geometry.htm
The return is not a "mirror" reflection of course but I have had a
simulation ( by ray-tracing with a "real ionosphere" model) done for me
which gives a real apogee of 88km which yields an "apparent" reflection
height of around 100km. That was at 136khz but should be similar at 500k.

See also
http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/simple.htm  for path loss
"guestimates"
I think the attenuation at 500khz is higher in daytime that 136kHz but I
have nowhere near as much data yet to judge from.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


> Rog, LF.
>
> I've got a complete set of Argo grabs of the GW3UEP beacon covering the
last
> 24 hrs. (34 MBs worth...too big to e-mail!)
>
> 1 The beacon is visible at this QTH for the complete 24h period, using
Argo
> 3 sec/dot setting
>
> 2 Daytime levels seem weak but fairly constant, presumably ground-wave
only
> propagation. Never strong enough to actually detect by ear.
>
> 3 The transition to night-time propagation commences as a series of fades
> with about a 5 - 10 minute cycle, starting at around 2200 utc
>
> 4 Signals then increase up to workable CW levels, maintaining good copy
with
> slight QSB from 0030 until 0330utc
>
> 5 Signals fall to daytime levels fairly abruptly at around 0400 utc, and I
> think Rog's central heating kicks in around then, as the frequency goes
for
> a little walk LF before settling down close to the 501.500 kHz nominal.
>
> So, the best time to work to work GW - SE England seems to be between 0030
> and 0330 utc, when presumably skywave propagation is the dominant
> mechanism....no surprises there, I guess. At this distance, it's probably
a
> single E-region hop. By contrast, the longer path to GM4SLV is probably 3
> hops or more.
>
> It will be interesting to see if the daytime signal levels hold up when
> Middle England has dried out a bit!
>
> If Mike GW4HXO is in beacon mode over the next few days, I'll try and look
> for him. Nothing seen so far.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:55:19 +0100
Brian <gm4jyb@dunnethead.co.uk> wrote:

> Hearing John GM4SLV calling CQ on 503.4
> Report 519 with me in IO88hp
> 0855
> Now QRSS
> 
> Brian gm4jyb
> 
> 

Thanks for the report Brian! 

At least I'm getting as far as the mainland! I'll leave the QRSS
running for a while longer

John


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Hearing John GM4SLV calling CQ on 503.4
Report 519 with me in IO88hp
0855
Now QRSS

Brian gm4jyb


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Heard only the transmission in the morning. Receiver SPM-3, BW 50Hz, =
antenna 40m wire up 10m. Tuned.
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All comments regarding QRSS mode on 500 kHz are noted with interest.

I'll be putting out a CQ on QRSS-3 for the next half hour or so - 503.3 kHz.
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Laurence,

It has been a while since the 137 kHz experimental license for VY1JA 
expired, but I have been watching the reflectors and notice your postings.

If you are ever on the air again and would like some LWL reports, let me 
know.

I am currently, "between employment opportunities" and may just try for work 
in Canada's far north,  which may make some interesting listening.

Have a great summer.

J. 



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Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 00:30 > 04:00 (good period 02:30 > 03:30)
WD2XNS 02:15 > 03:15 (good period 02:30 > 03:30)

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
































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Mmmm I dont think so Roelof .......the IF filter should not make any
difference unless you have in-band qrm. In fact a very narrow filter before
an FFT can create artifacts which are not actually there sometimes. NDB mode
uses a 12Hz resolution, effectively a 12Hz brick-wall filter with no phase
problems. But there can be problems due to sample overlap, and the display
protocol.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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>> snip
This demonstrates the benefits of using narrow audio filters.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt



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Hi, John.

Thanks for the nice screen grab. I'd usually be having to run 200W RF in 137
kHz to achieve the same sort of range in daylight. It must be due to the
better antenna efficiency at 500 kHz. I'll revert to QRSS3 until 1500utc,
and then will QRT until later on.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:59:48 +0100
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> Hi, John, Dave, LF,
>
> I'll also transmit qrss10 on 503.325 from 1300 utc until 1400 UTC.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Readable at 961km in daylight Dave!

Nice...

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:41:14 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks John.
> 
> Is there any noticable QSB over the path to either of us?
> I've now reverted to QRS3 on 503.50
> 
> Dave.
> 

Not really, occasional character elements seem to get missed, but the
signals are reasonably constant, if weak. I'm watching the QRSS-10 from
'WCB still to see if it fades any, as he's further away than you, but
it has held up now for 1/2 an hour. 

I'll have a look at your QRSS-3 in a bit, although I must pop out for a
couple of hours soon to catch the shops. 

I'll be around all evening and well into the night if you want to do
more tests.

Cheers,

John



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Member : RSGB, ARRL
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:59:48 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John, Dave, LF,
> 
> I'll also transmit qrss10 on 503.325 from 1300 utc until 1400 UTC.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


Readable at 961km in daylight Dave!

Nice...

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:45:35 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Amazing! You must be able to hear a pin drop up there, I'm not so
> lucky here...
> I could switch to QRS10 as an experiment. I will do that at 2 O-clock
> local time for about half an hour.
> 
> Dave. 'YXM
> 
>

Nice signal, some static crashes but readable..after much finger
trouble with the PC!

No watching the other Dave's QRSS-10

Cheers,
John GM4SLV


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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:59:48 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John, Dave, LF,
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> I'll also transmit qrss10 on 503.325 from 1300 utc until 1400 UTC.
> 

That must be you I'm seeing, thought Dave was off frequency!

Will send captures when screen fills.

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Hi, John, Dave, LF,

I'll also transmit qrss10 on 503.325 from 1300 utc until 1400 UTC.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick
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  Amazing! You must be able to hear a pin drop up there, I'm not so lucky
here...
  I could switch to QRS10 as an experiment. I will do that at 2 O-clock
local time for about half an hour.

  Dave. 'YXM


  On 14/07/07, John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    Well you're making it to Shetland, a distance of 860km, in daylight.

    Not too good at QRSS-3, but probably workable at QRSS-10.

    Cheers,
    John GM4SLV

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  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500 beacon on =
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  afternoon<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Amazing! You must be able to hear a pin =
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experiment. I=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 14/07/07, <B =
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    you're making it to Shetland, a distance of 860km, in =
daylight.<BR><BR>Not=20
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QRSS-10.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>John=20
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:45:35 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Amazing! You must be able to hear a pin drop up there, I'm not so
> lucky here...
> I could switch to QRS10 as an experiment. I will do that at 2 O-clock
> local time for about half an hour.


Okay Dave.

Just hear, very faintly by ear and quite visible on waterfall, a CW QSO
between G3UNT and G3DXZ. Will watch for your QRSS-10 at 1400 local.

Cheers,

John


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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:54:46 +0100
"Dave Pick" <daveyxm@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Chaps
> 
> I'm on 503.5 in QRS3 beacon mode with CW IDs for the next hour or so.
> GW3UEP is beaconing on 501.2
> 
> Dave.
> 
Hi Dave,

Well you're making it to Shetland, a distance of 860km, in daylight.

Not too good at QRSS-3, but probably workable at QRSS-10.

Cheers,
John GM4SLV

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I'm on 503.5 in QRS3 beacon mode with CW IDs for the next hour or so.
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Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,

Many thanks for your mails & reports, just collected  - had an early =
night after hard labour on Sunday.

Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of Wales - I'm just warming up the trees =
here!

FYI, since March have been QRP [6W from mini-Tx, via external LPF with =
1dB insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" buried coax to remote ATU].

Last Thursday I routed the PA dc feed from 12V to the 22V pre-regulator =
supply & mini-tx now running happily with 20W o/p, after adding 15kuF =
smoothing.

Then I removed the external -1dB LPF & still no sign of M/wave harmonics =
off-site; so +6dB overall increase.  I_ant now ~0.6A.

Tx is still running on ~501.5.

Tks for tests.

73, Rog.

Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is mimosa yellow, currently SORN, hope =
to MOT it soon.

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dave G3WCB=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...


Hi Rog, LF

Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just strong enough to be audible in =
peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you signal is =
definitely stronger.

Still looking for GW4HXO...

BTW, I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and =
all...

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


  Hi Rog,

  HXO -  RST 319 with QSB to 419 at times
  UEP - Just visible on SpecLab

  73

  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

   'HXO 539 but flattened by a 599 G0MRF on top
  'UEP 319

  73 Dave G3YMC Bracknell IO91PJ

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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/Dave/Gary/Mike,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Many thanks for your mails &amp; =
reports, just=20
collected&nbsp; - had an early night after hard labour on =
Sunday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mike/HXO, you're still the GLD of =
Wales - I'm just=20
warming up the trees here!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>FYI, since March have been QRP [6W =
from mini-Tx,=20
via external LPF with 1dB insertion-loss, so 4.75W via 100m 1/2" buried =
coax to=20
remote ATU].</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Last Thursday I&nbsp;routed the PA dc =
feed from=20
12V to the 22V pre-regulator supply &amp; mini-tx now running happily =
with 20W=20
o/p, after adding 15kuF smoothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;removed the external =
-1dB LPF=20
&amp; still no sign of M/wave harmonics off-site; so&nbsp;+6dB overall=20
increase.&nbsp; I_ant now ~0.6A.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tx is still running on =
~501.5.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for tests.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/WCB; FB on ur Mk1 - this one is =
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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Rog, LF</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D383061221-22072007>Screengrab of GW3UEP at 2107 utc. Just strong =
enough to=20
be audible in peaks of QSB. Lots of static this evening, but I think you =
signal=20
is definitely stronger.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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looking for GW4HXO...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D383061221-22072007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D383061221-22072007>BTW,=20
I've got a Mk1, Conifer green with a yellow nose, swing-axles and=20
all...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Just come in from the jungle - still wearing hard-hat...
Rog.
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Jean-Pierre,

The copy looked better last night - thanks. Also thanks to Hartmut, who 
has been regularly posting screen shots on his web site.

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Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 01:30 => 04:30 (good period 02:00 => 03:00)
WD2XNS 01:00 => 03:10 (good period 02:00 => 03:00)

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

































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Dear Graham, LF group,

Delete the "G" and you get M0BMU :-) Thanks for the report - QTH here is =
IO91VR, near Hatfield, about 25km north of London.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:51 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


  G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk  looks like  501.4 Khz=20

  gm0bmu ,  439  qra , io91br    , 503.8  khz=20

  two other traces  100 hz hf  and 100 hz lf of 501.4 ,but too week to  =
catch call's=20

  G ..=20


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:59 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: LF : Beacon Keeper's=20


    Hi All,



    Beacon Keeper's : Beacon schedule page, google group -uk500khz-



    http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule



    If your running a beacon, please indicate your approximate or =
expected operating times. If your not on the list, or the data is wrong, =
please add or amend  your details.=20



    The page is open so  you can update it as the situation changes=20

    =20

    Tnx G..=20









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    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Graham, LF group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Delete the "G" and you get =
M0BMU&nbsp;:-) Thanks=20
for the report - QTH here is IO91VR, near Hatfield, about 25km north of=20
London.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de M0BMU</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV , Rst 559 in io83lk&nbsp; looks =
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  501.4 Khz </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gm0bmu ,&nbsp; 439&nbsp; qra ,=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two other traces&nbsp; 100 hz&nbsp;hf =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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Nice clear trace from G0MRF at about 2230 utc tonight. It's a bit high for
the tight filter in the IC735 that's doing grabber duty so it may have been
even better lower down. 'WGT is booming in audible about S6.

Dave.

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Nice clear trace from G0MRF at about 2230 utc tonight. It&#39;s a bit high for the tight filter in the IC735 that&#39;s doing grabber duty so it may have been even better lower down. &#39;WGT is booming in audible about S6.
<br><br>Dave.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hi LF,

Thanks to Dave, Laurie, Graham & John for reports on my transmission last 
night. The improved antenna seems to work well I was hearing Finbar's beacon 
during daylight at good audible level solid 100% copy were I struggled 
before.

I will beacon again later today.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Subject: LF: RE: 500 - Testing 503.600khz - Stronger!


> Hi, Gary,
>
> Your beacon clearly audible here above the static. I don't remember being
> able to copy your signal by ear previously. Obviously the new roof on the
> garage has done the trick!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 16 July 2007 20:45
> To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
> Subject: LF: 500 - Testing 503.600khz
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Finally had the garage roof replaced (had to employ a different roofer due
> to false & broken promises).
>
> I am currently testing re-erected & hopefully improved antenna in my small
> garden. Consists of 12 mtrs vertical, elevated inductance & small top
> capacity hat.
>
> 503.600 KHz, sending G4WGT (qrss03), 6wpm CW ID, 5 minute intervals.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>
>
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> 



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Not a thing hrd on 500 so far today.
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Michel,

Thanks very much for the report. There was obviously some fading, but 
the noise level must have been fairly low to get such good results. 
Thanks very much.

XES will be back on 137.779 tonight.

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Sorry  John, I have just taken note of this mail !
I was not with the QRA this night , the PC worked all alone!!!!
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) on 137.577 kHz tonight starting=20
> around 0000 UTC. Reports are welcome.
>
> Thanks to Jean-Pierre and Henny for reports from last night.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
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WD2XES will be running WOLF (10) on 137.577 kHz tonight starting around 
0000 UTC. Reports are welcome.

Thanks to Jean-Pierre and Henny for reports from last night.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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01./07/2007   1102z

Hello Joe!

Thank you Joe for your message as well as you efforts on 137.777 KHz
Will be you QRV in rx on 137?
It could help us to want to transmit in your direction from Europe... (me at 
first!).
VY 73 Joe and TU again!

Jeff / F6CWN JN09TT in Normandy near the city of Dieppe.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Craig" <jcraig@mun.ca>
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> Dear Group,
>
> SAQ was received with good signals here and an almost complete
> aural copy of the text on a Sailor R1119 (without filters)
> coupled with a tuned circuit to the 100m LF antenna. This is
> the first time I've copied VLF CW!
>
> VO1NA LF is now decomissioned and is QRT on 2200 metres.  I'd like
> to thank you all for all your  help that has been so useful over
> the past 4  years and to all who made the effort to copy the signals and
> provide signal reports.  Many thanks to those who put their transmitters
> on the air for the 6 transatlantic QSO's and for some interesting watching
> on this end of the pond.   It has been great fun!
>
> Lets hope WRC07 grants us all this band.
>
> Thanks to F1AFJ PA3FNY PA3CPM and Hartmut Wolff who copied the 137.777 kHz
> signals and sent signal reports for the transmissions yesterday.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
> 




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Hello Joe

hopefully wrc07 works out good for you and maby we will see you again in the
near furure.
It was fun looking out for your signals.

GL,73
Victor,PA3FNY


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Joe Craig
Verzonden: zondag 1 juli 2007 10:50
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: SAQ / VO1NA


Dear Group,

SAQ was received with good signals here and an almost complete
aural copy of the text on a Sailor R1119 (without filters)
coupled with a tuned circuit to the 100m LF antenna. This is
the first time I've copied VLF CW!

VO1NA LF is now decomissioned and is QRT on 2200 metres.  I'd like
to thank you all for all your  help that has been so useful over
the past 4  years and to all who made the effort to copy the signals and
provide signal reports.  Many thanks to those who put their transmitters
on the air for the 6 transatlantic QSO's and for some interesting watching
on this end of the pond.   It has been great fun!

Lets hope WRC07 grants us all this band.

Thanks to F1AFJ PA3FNY PA3CPM and Hartmut Wolff who copied the 137.777 kHz
signals and sent signal reports for the transmissions yesterday.

73
Joe VO1NA






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Dear Group,

SAQ was received with good signals here and an almost complete
aural copy of the text on a Sailor R1119 (without filters)
coupled with a tuned circuit to the 100m LF antenna. This is
the first time I've copied VLF CW!

VO1NA LF is now decomissioned and is QRT on 2200 metres.  I'd like
to thank you all for all your  help that has been so useful over
the past 4  years and to all who made the effort to copy the signals and
provide signal reports.  Many thanks to those who put their transmitters
on the air for the 6 transatlantic QSO's and for some interesting watching
on this end of the pond.   It has been great fun!

Lets hope WRC07 grants us all this band.

Thanks to F1AFJ PA3FNY PA3CPM and Hartmut Wolff who copied the 137.777 kHz
signals and sent signal reports for the transmissions yesterday.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Hi all,

Mine was delayed because I didn't mention how I was goiung to control
frequency and power - too much of a rush to get off on my holidays...

No one at fault except myself...  :-)

Now I need to do some building..

Martyn=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John W Gould
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:58 PM
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Paul, we put the page up at=20

http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/ofcom_501kHz_%20srp.htm

to help with the applications.  RSGB assists Ofcom with the approval
process and what we are looking for is an indication of how one is going
to control the transmit frequency and ERP within the NoV conditions.
Unfortunately, the standard SRP form that Ofcom uses is slightly
misleading as it is really a form that was designed for other purposes,
such as high ERP systems that might cause RFI. =20

Normally, applications can be turned around in less than 2 weeks - I
think Martyn's application may have been delayed because I was on
holiday, thus was waiting for my input.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager
g3wkl@btinternet.com

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Martyn Kinder
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Subject: RE: 500Khz Nov



I have just got mine back.

I detailed all the ERP calculations.
I provided a plan of the house showing the aerial and cap wires. They
want to know how you will maintain frequency stability (XTAL control and
measured against GPS locked counter sufficed)and also ERP measurements
(Measure aerial current suffices) Took just over 2 weeks

GL

Martyn
=3D=3D

Martyn Kinder LRPS G0CZD

http://www.czd.org.uk
P  Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this
email?

There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand Binary
and those who don't...



-----Original Message-----
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=20
All

I am just about to complete a NOV for 500 KHz, any help or guidance
would be greatly appreciated.

=20

TX just about built, thinking about an antenna at the moment! =20

=20

Regards & 73

=20

Paul - G1DVA

=20


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Hi Dave,

Thank you for the info, I had not seen it mentioned.

Cheers,

Gary.

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 The second harmonic of RTE has always been present on 504kHz here, 
 though normally only copyable by ear after dark. I am surprised you 
 didn't know this, it has been occasionally mentioned on here and is 
 no secret. Convenient frequency calibration mark!



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The second harmonic of RTE has always been present on 504kHz here, 
though normally only copyable by ear after dark. I am surprised you 
didn't know this, it has been occasionally mentioned on here and is 
no secret. Convenient frequency calibration mark!

The RTE transmitter is due to change to DRM sometime soon. Maybe they 
are doing some changes in preparation for this. I am not sure what 
the implications for us are when they do the DRM change, presumably 
then we won't have the carrier but instead have harmonics of the DRM 
noise which would spread right over our allocation.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 2 Jul 2007 at 18:19, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> During my monitoring of 500 KHz I have almost always seen a line on
> SpecLab at 504.0 KHz. Whilst attempting to improve a shielded loop for
> 500 KHz I have been receiving the signal on 504.0 KHz stronger &
> stronger with accompanying hetrodyne. After todays changes to my loop
> the signal has become so strong that I now hear garbled audio &
> SpecLab is showing audio sidebands (see capture attached). I notice
> that there is a line at the same frequency on the Bimingham Grabber
> some of the time. I first thought it was some product of mixing strong
> signals in the MF range. I decided to try to work it out & realised
> that in fact it is the second harmonic of RTE Radio 1 on 252 KHz. I
> have studied the uninteligable audio pattern & it does relate to  that
> signal.
> 
> I must admit that I don't know if it due to improvements or some other
> quirk of my loop or just the fact that the filtering at RTE Radio 1 is
> poor. Although this signal has got stronger with changes to my loop
> there doesn't appear to be the same improvement with normal 500 KHz
> signals.
> 
> Perhaps someone can shed some light on this for me.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> 


http://www.davesergeant.com



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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: 500 - Signal on 504 KHz
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Hi All,

During my monitoring of 500 KHz I have almost always seen a line on SpecLab 
at 504.0 KHz. Whilst attempting to improve a shielded loop for 500 KHz I 
have been receiving the signal on 504.0 KHz stronger & stronger with 
accompanying hetrodyne. After todays changes to my loop the signal has 
become so strong that I now hear garbled audio & SpecLab is showing audio 
sidebands (see capture attached). I notice that there is a line at the same 
frequency on the Bimingham Grabber some of the time. I first thought it was 
some product of mixing strong signals in the MF range. I decided to try to 
work it out & realised that in fact it is the second harmonic of RTE Radio 1 
on 252 KHz. I have studied the uninteligable audio pattern & it does relate 
to  that signal.

I must admit that I don't know if it due to improvements or some other quirk 
of my loop or just the fact that the filtering at RTE Radio 1 is poor. 
Although this signal has got stronger with changes to my loop there doesn't 
appear to be the same improvement with normal 500 KHz signals.

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this for me.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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On 17 Jul 2007 at 19:51, Vic@VicsFloridaVilla wrote:
> 
> I would ceratinly appreciate a scan of your tx design . That would
> give me a good start. My design skills are rather limited - my only rf
> qualification is the RAE which I tookin 1978 but I love tinkering and
> homebrew. Having built a K2 and recently a KX1 I have gained a lot of
> confidence to have  a crack at a 500khz rig. So far the transverter
> looks very promising. 

If you have not found it already, you might also be interested in my 
transmitter - see http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/
 
> Having followed the postings on the reflector I agree a pre selector
> on rx looks essential and I think a resonant antenna. But some
> stations seem to get quite good results with fairly modest antennas so
> there is hope !

I along with a few others use the Datong UC/1 upconverter (feeding my 
K2) and get excellent results. Good sensitivity and no problems 
whatsoever from MW crossmod. The UC/1 has a fairly sharp preselector 
at its front end so guess that helps.
 
> My progress on 500 will be slow due to other comittments but I am
> determined to put out a signal on that band !
> 

I guess the 1 year experiment will be over before some of us really 
get going on the band. I seem to be going one step forward and one 
step backwards at the moment. This afternoon I took the opportunity 
between the showers to establish the impedance of my vertical at its 
base - Gould sig generator on a long extension lead in the garden. 
Using G3LDO's 3-meter impedance tester I carefully adjusted the 
tuning inductor and matching ferrite transformer to get a nice 50ohm 
resistive impedance at the antenna base. Went back in to the shack 
and found a diabolical swr there..... Maybe I have some very strange 
coax if 50 ohms at one end produces silly impedance at the other....

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi Dave,

Many thanks for your reply and sincere apologies for this delayed =
response - too much non radio work :-(   !!!

I would ceratinly appreciate a scan of your tx design . That would give =
me a good start. My design skills are rather limited - my only rf =
qualification is the RAE which I tookin 1978 but I love tinkering and =
homebrew. Having built a K2 and recently a KX1 I have gained a lot of =
confidence to have  a crack at a 500khz rig. So far the transverter =
looks very promising.=20

Having followed the postings on the reflector I agree a pre selector on =
rx looks essential and I think a resonant antenna. But some stations =
seem to get quite good results with fairly modest antennas so there is =
hope !

My progress on 500 will be slow due to other comittments but I am =
determined to put out a signal on that band !

Many thanks again !

73,

Vic=20

GW4JUN
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dave G3WCB=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:33 PM
  Subject: LF: RE: LF 500khz


  Hi, Vic.

  I've got no experince with the K2, but you'll probably need a =
pre-selector to get the best performance out of your rig on 500 kHz. I =
use a simple design with a fet front end, which can be found on G3YXM's =
web-site:-  http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm   I substituted a =
J310 fet for the BF245, and used IFTs from a junked transistor radio for =
the inductors. My RX is an Icom IC-PCR1000 which is okay, but the IF =
filter is a bit wide for close-in CW work.

  For transmitting, I use a design by DF3LP, which was originally for =
137 kHz http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html   It uses an =
IRF 540 FET as the output stage, and I have no trouble getting 25W into =
50 ohms from a 12VDC supply, although you may not need this much power =
to hit the 100 mW ERP limit if you have a reasonable antenna.

  You can scavenge most of the bits for nothing from scrap PC power =
supplies, including the case and fan!

  The DF3LP TX design uses a crystal-mixer VFO, but you could omit this =
and feed your 1mW straight into the second BC549 transistor. You'd need =
to re-do the pi-section filters for operation at 500 kHz, but you just =
need to scale the inductance value by the ratio 137/500. I've got a =
scanned copy of my TX circuit if you are interested.

  Quite a few 500 kHz OPS are using valve TXs, with bottles like ECL82, =
and 2E26s. It just depends what you are happiest using!

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of =
Vic@VicsFloridaVilla
    Sent: 19 May 2007 21:05
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Subject: LF: LF 500khz


    Hi Folks,


    Joined the list a couple of weeks ago amd enjoying reading all the =
postings but this is my first posting.

    I am planning to use my Elecraft K2 to drive a homebrew transverter =
to give me a 500khz capability. I have the transverter interface board =
in the K2 so have a 1mW output available.

    So far I hace lashed up a 28Mhz xtal oscillator and a home brew =
diode ring mixer. Feeding these through a G0MRF 7 element Low  Pass =
Filter I tested it the other night and it works ! Wow. Nice clean cw and =
ssb on 500khz (feeding directly into my receiver....probably the first =
and last time I'll hear ssb on 500khz !!) Amazing carrier suppression on =
ssb - really impressive for 4 IN4148 diodes and a couple of FT50-43 =
cores. Plenty of attenuation of 1000khz and 1500khz harmonics. It's =
looking good !

    Just tried it on receive and it does work but signals very weak. =
With the K2 pre amp on I can hear MSF 60Khz at S1 , Loran 100Khz at S4, =
BBc R4 198Khz at S9, plus a few other data type sigs below 150khz. Heard =
nothing on 500Khz . I can hear a strong intermittent data type signal on =
about 518Khz Plenty of noise when I connect the antenna though. Looks =
like I may need to work on the antenna and maybe some receive =
amplification .

    I'm thrilled with all this so far  but now I need some help with the =
rest of the system.=20

    So a few questions for you all, and any ideas and suggestions =
gratefully received !

    1) Can anyone point me to any designs for a pa suitable for 500khz. =
Something around 5 - 10 watts output from about 1mW input would be =
great. I am not very knowledgable on electronics but I love tinkering so =
something which is easy to get going would be good. I imagine at 500khz =
it should not be too difficult.

    2) Has anyone on the list used a K2 with the transverter board to =
drive a transveter ? I can get a full 1mW tx output into a 50 ohm dummy =
load (as per the construction manual) but when driving my homebrew ring =
mixer I can only get about 0.3 mW maximum. I wonder if there is an =
impedance mismatch which is loading the K2 output.  The K2 is connected =
directly to the mixer.  My mixer has six trifilar turns on a FT50-43 at =
each end. It clearly works well but I think I'll need to get the level =
up a bit at some point.=20

    3) Thinking ahead to antennas.....I'll need to do something to =
resonate my 180 ft Inv L . I 'll probably stick a big loading coil in it =
somewhere but I have no idea how much L I'll need . Is there any =
software out there which will help me with this ?

    Meanwhile I'll press on with the band pass filter which is not =
working so well . Time for a tinker !!

    TIA

    73,

    Vic GW4JUN

    Halkyn North Wales IO83JF


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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi Dave,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Many thanks for your reply =
and sincere=20
apologies for this delayed response - too much non radio work =
:-(&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I would ceratinly appreciate =
a scan of=20
your tx design . That would give me a good start. My design skills are =
rather=20
limited - my only rf qualification is the RAE which I tookin 1978 but I =
love=20
tinkering and homebrew. Having built a K2 and recently a KX1 I have =
gained a lot=20
of confidence to have&nbsp; a crack at a 500khz rig. So far the =
transverter=20
looks very promising. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Having followed the postings =
on the=20
reflector I agree a pre selector on rx looks essential and I think a =
resonant=20
antenna. But some stations seem to get quite good results with fairly =
modest=20
antennas so there is hope !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>My progress on 500 will be =
slow due to=20
other comittments but I am determined to put out a signal on that band=20
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Many thanks again =
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>73,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Vic </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>GW4JUN</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2007 =
11:33=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: LF =
500khz</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D291431222-19052007>Hi,=20
  Vic.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D291431222-19052007>I've=20
  got no experince with the K2, but you'll probably need a pre-selector =
to get=20
  the best performance out of your rig on 500 kHz.&nbsp;I use a simple =
design=20
  with a fet front end, which can be found on G3YXM's web-site:-&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm">http://www.wireless.org=
.uk/circuits2.htm</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I substituted a J310 fet for the BF245, and used IFTs from a junked =
transistor=20
  radio for the inductors. My RX is an Icom IC-PCR1000 which is okay, =
but the IF=20
  filter&nbsp;is a bit wide for close-in CW work.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D291431222-19052007>For=20
  transmitting, I use a design by DF3LP, which was originally for 137 =
kHz=20
  </SPAN></FONT><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/lftx/index.html</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
  face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;<SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007>&nbsp; It uses an IRF 540 FET as the output =
stage,=20
  and I have no trouble getting 25W into 50 ohms from a 12VDC supply, =
although=20
  you may not need&nbsp;this much power to hit the 100 mW ERP limit if =
you have=20
  a reasonable antenna.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007>You can scavenge most of the bits for =
nothing from=20
  scrap PC power supplies, including the case and=20
  fan!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007>The DF3LP TX design uses a crystal-mixer =
VFO, but you=20
  could omit this and feed your 1mW straight into the second BC549 =
transistor.=20
  You'd need to re-do the pi-section filters for operation at 500 kHz, =
but you=20
  just need to scale the inductance value by the =
ratio&nbsp;137/500.&nbsp;I've=20
  got a scanned copy of my TX circuit if you are=20
  interested.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007>Quite a few 500 kHz OPS are using valve =
TXs, with=20
  bottles like ECL82, and 2E26s. It just depends what you are happiest=20
  using!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D291431222-19052007>73, Dave G3WCB=20
  IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
    </B>Vic@VicsFloridaVilla<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 May 2007 =
21:05<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: LF=20
    500khz<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi Folks,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Joined the list a couple =
of weeks ago=20
    amd enjoying reading all the postings but this&nbsp;is my first=20
    posting.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I am planning to use my =
Elecraft K2=20
    to drive a homebrew transverter to give me a 500khz capability. I =
have the=20
    transverter interface board in the K2 so have a 1mW output=20
    available.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So far I hace lashed up a =
28Mhz xtal=20
    oscillator and a home brew diode ring mixer. Feeding these through a =
G0MRF 7=20
    element Low&nbsp; Pass Filter I tested it the other night and it =
works !=20
    Wow. Nice clean cw and ssb on 500khz (feeding directly into my=20
    receiver....probably the first and last time I'll hear ssb on 500khz =
!!)=20
    Amazing carrier suppression on ssb - really impressive for 4 IN4148 =
diodes=20
    and a couple of FT50-43 cores. Plenty of attenuation of 1000khz and =
1500khz=20
    harmonics. It's looking good !</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Just tried it on receive =
and it does=20
    work but signals very weak. With the K2 pre amp on I can hear MSF =
60Khz at=20
    S1&nbsp;, Loran 100Khz at S4, BBc R4 198Khz at S9, plus a few other =
data=20
    type sigs below 150khz. Heard nothing on 500Khz . I can hear a =
strong=20
    intermittent data type signal on about 518Khz&nbsp;Plenty of noise=20
    when&nbsp;I connect the antenna though. Looks like I may need to =
work on the=20
    antenna and maybe some receive amplification .</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I'm thrilled with all =
this so=20
    far&nbsp; but now I need some help with the rest of the system.=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So a few questions for =
you all, and=20
    any ideas and suggestions gratefully received !</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>1) Can anyone point me to =
any designs=20
    for a pa suitable for 500khz. Something around 5 - 10 watts output =
from=20
    about 1mW input would be great. I am not very knowledgable on =
electronics=20
    but I love tinkering so something which is easy to get going would =
be good.=20
    I imagine at 500khz it should not be too difficult.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>2) Has anyone on the list =
used a K2=20
    with the transverter board to drive a transveter ? I can get a full =
1mW tx=20
    output into a 50 ohm dummy load (as per the construction manual) but =
when=20
    driving my homebrew ring mixer I can only get about 0.3 mW maximum. =
I wonder=20
    if there is an impedance mismatch which is loading the K2 =
output.&nbsp; The=20
    K2 is connected directly to the mixer. &nbsp;My mixer has six =
trifilar turns=20
    on a FT50-43 at each end. It clearly works well but I think I'll =
need to get=20
    the level up a bit at some point. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>3) Thinking ahead to=20
    antennas.....I'll need to do something to resonate my 180 ft Inv L . =
I 'll=20
    probably stick a big loading coil in it somewhere but I have no idea =
how=20
    much L I'll need . Is there any software out there which will help =
me with=20
    this ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Meanwhile I'll press on =
with the band=20
    pass filter which is not working so well . Time for a tinker =
!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>TIA</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>73,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Vic GW4JUN</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Halkyn North Wales=20
    IO83JF</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hello Jeff and all,

It's only abt 80 km between me and Grimmerton so with a tuned antenna 
signal always is high.
There is no water between, my locator is JO57WQ.
Now it's high time to take a trip and be there when second 
transmission start :-)

Best 73 de Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
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> 01./07/2007   0948z
> 
> Hello Gus!
> 
> Here it was only 599, 35 dB above the noise in JN09tt, near the city 
of 
> Dieppe.
> It was a pleasure of hearing this venerable station again!
> 
> VY 73 de Jeff  / F6CWN
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <begu@algonet.se>
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> 
> 
>> Just received SAQ with very strong signal abt 60dB over noise !
>>
>> 73 de Gus SM6BHZ
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>> 
> 
> 
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Hi David -
   
  Audible signals tonight with 100 % copy of your psk. Some QSB.
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Dear Dave, LF Group,

It went off one morning last week - the 4th or 5th, I think. Lessay =
still seems to be working normally here. Maybe it was shut down to =
coincide with the maintenance going on at Sylt. I am listening on 136.5 =
if anyone wants a QSO.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Has anyone else noticed that Rugby Loran has gone off?
  If it weren't for the static it would be lovely and quiet!
  It was supposed to stay on until the end of the month...

  73=20
  Dave
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It went off one morning last week =
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Hi All,



Beacon Keeper's : Beacon schedule page, google group -uk500khz-



http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/beacon-schedule



If your running a beacon, please indicate your approximate or expected =
operating times. If your not on the list, or the data is wrong, please =
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The page is open so  you can update it as the situation changes=20

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Hello again,

I thought, in the quiet moments before I start wielding the soldering
iron in a frenzy to get QRV on 500kHz, that I'd share a website that
contains a few recordings of 500kHz in "the good old days".

http://mikea.ath.cx//coastal

I particularly like the recoding of the Queen Mary's last eastbound
trip and the "English Channel Tea Party".

I'd also recommend (assuming you all don't already have a copy)
"QRT500" the DVD, which I got from an eBay seller, which shows footage
of the last night on 500kHz at Lands End GLD.

Hopefully I'll get some components in the post today and I can start
building my 500kHz TX.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV

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Hi All,
 
I hope to be on 502 tonight from 1830z until after dark 'beaconing'. (Well  
in my case that means sending endless unanswered CQ's!).
 
I hope to work one or two of you.QRN seems moderate to low.
 
73
 
G3VTT



   

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in my case that means sending endless unanswered CQ's!).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I hope to work one or two of you.QRN seems moderate to low.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>G3VTT</DIV></FONT>   </BODY></HTML>

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Tks Harmut.
Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: LF: 137 and 500 kHz last night 26th/27th


137 kHz:
Good copy of WD2XES on 137.779 and poor copy of WD2XNS on 137.781 kHz.
Still high local noise level.

Captures can be seen here:
http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


500 kHz:
Only brief copy of GW3UEP and GI4DPE last night. Monitored only until
23:53 because my computer crashed.

Captures can be seen here:
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73
Hartmut
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks Harmut.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dh-wolff@gmx.de href=3D"mailto:h-wolff@gmx.de">Hartmut Wolff</A> =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 3:53 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>137 kHz:<BR>Good copy of WD2XES on 137.779 and poor copy =
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Zitat von F4DTL@aol.com:

> Hello Uwe nice capture tonight,im testing my new "PA0RDT" mini whip on 500
> kHz.
> Whats your ERP power this evening ?
>
> Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP
>
> RX: IC 7400
> Ant: mini whip  PA0RDT
>
Hello Nicolas,
nice screenshot, much clearer than the last one.

The radiated power is still 2,84W (ERP).

best regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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Hello Uwe nice capture tonight,im testing my new "PA0RDT" mini whip on 500  
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Whats your ERP power this evening ?
 
Best 73  from F4DTL in JN18FP

RX: IC 7400
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Fantastic Jose - mni tks - that was late for me!
VFB, Rog.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: GW beacons / GI4DPE


Hello Rog and all,

Nice copy last night of your QSO with Finbar, both signals with similar =
level; in spite of QSB, almost 100% of the QSO heard here.


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX



  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:36 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: GW beacons / GI4DPE


  Fb Jim - hrd you wrkg Fin - wrkd him just b4 u, 599 here.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Moritz=20
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  Dear LF Group,

  I had  good reception of beacon signals from GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE =
on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All the signals got up to a 569 =
sort of level at times, but with a lot of fading. When it started =
getting light, all 3 signals quickly faded into the noise. I have =
attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the signals from GW4HXO =
(upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, with the time =
markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on GW4HXO's =
signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at a similar level.

  I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE tonight starting about 2335utc; =
this had similar fading but never really disappeared completely, and was =
569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am also hearing GW3UEP's =
beacon signal, which again seems to have much more fading than Finbar's =
signal did.=20

  Cheers, Jim Moritz
  73 de M0BMU


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late for=20
me!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>VFB, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Djpradoes@telefonica.net =
href=3D"mailto:jpradoes@telefonica.net">Jose=20
Manuel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 10:10 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: GW beacons / GI4DPE</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Rog and all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice copy last night of your QSO with =
Finbar, both=20
signals with similar level; in spite of QSB, almost 100% of the QSO =
heard=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3D500kcs@uku.co.uk =
href=3D"mailto:500kcs@uku.co.uk">Gw3UEP</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 =
8:36 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: GW beacons /=20
GI4DPE</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Fb Jim - hrd you wrkg Fin - wrkd him =
just b4 u,=20
  599 here.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Djames.moritz@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">James Moritz</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 2:20 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: GW beacons / GI4DPE</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had&nbsp; good reception of beacon =
signals from=20
  GW4HXO, GW3UEP and GI4DPE on Tuesday night / Wednesday morning - All =
the=20
  signals got up to a 569 sort of level at times, but with a lot of=20
  fading.&nbsp;When it started getting light, all 3 signals quickly =
faded into=20
  the noise. I have attached a snippet of the spectrogram showing the =
signals=20
  from GW4HXO (upper) and GI4DPE (lower) which illustrates the fading, =
with the=20
  time markers at 5 minute intervals. For some reason, the fading on =
GW4HXO's=20
  signal seems to be deeper than GI4DPE's, although both signals are =
peaking at=20
  a similar level.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had a good CW QSO with GI4DPE =
tonight=20
  starting about 2335utc; this had similar fading but never really =
disappeared=20
  completely, and was 569 most of the time for about 25 minutes. I am =
also=20
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fading=20
  than Finbar's signal&nbsp;did.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers, Jim Moritz</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de =
M0BMU</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>__________=20
  Informaci=F3n de NOD32, revisi=F3n 2424 (20070726) =
__________<BR><BR>Este mensaje=20
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 21:08:05 +0100 (BST)
CHRISTOPHER OSBORN <c.cjo@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Many thanks Lubos and Victor.
> I am beaconing on 503.3 kHz now for half an hour.
> 73 Chris G3XIZ
> 
> 

I think I'm starting to see something Chris!

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Many thanks Lubos and Victor.
I am beaconing on 503.3 kHz now for half an hour.
73 Chris G3XIZ

Victor van Kooten <vvkooten@wanadoo.nl> wrote:     Good  signal Chris
  
 73
 Victor
 PA3FNY
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Van:    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens CHRISTOPHER    OSBORN
Verzonden: dinsdag 3 juli 2007 19:18
Aan: LF    group
Onderwerp: LF: 500 - QRSS CQ


I'll be    putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
After    which I'll beacon my call sign for a short while.

73 Chris    G3XIZ


      

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Many thanks Lubos and Victor.<br>I am beaconing on 503.3 kHz now for half an hour.<br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>Victor van Kooten &lt;vvkooten@wanadoo.nl&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name="GENERATOR"> <div><span class="421275319-03072007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Good  signal Chris</font></span></div> <div><span class="421275319-03072007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div><span class="421275319-03072007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">73</font></span></div> <div><span class="421275319-03072007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Victor</font></span></div> <div><span class="421275319-03072007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">PA3FNY</font></span></div> <blockquote>  
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Hallo Chris!
I am listening on 503.3kHz, but no signal at the moment. Are you on
QRSS3 now? It is not very QRN, so I can be on 500kHz this evening.
 
Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
 
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I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
After which I'll beacon my call sign for a short while.

73 Chris G3XIZ


  
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signal
at the moment. Are you on QRSS3 now? It is not very QRN, so I can be on =
500kHz
this evening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 03, =
2007 9:18
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> LF group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 500 - QRSS =
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Good signal Chris

73
Victor
PA3FNY
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens CHRISTOPHER OSBORN
  Verzonden: dinsdag 3 juli 2007 19:18
  Aan: LF group
  Onderwerp: LF: 500 - QRSS CQ


  I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
  After which I'll beacon my call sign for a short while.

  73 Chris G3XIZ





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On Sunday 01 July 2007 15:59, James Moritz wrote:
> Dear Claudio
>
> > I've observed that when SAQ key was up on my PC screen I can see a very
>
> weak
>
> > signal, as some carrier leakage.
> >
> > Any info about SAQ key-up ERP radiated?
>
> The SAQ alternator runs continuously, and is keyed by using a magnetic
> amplifier (saturating reactor) to short circuit the alternator output when
> the key is up. However, the impedance of the reactor does not actually
> reach zero, so some power is radiated. It is usually about 20 - 25dB down
> on the key-down signal level.

20 - 25 dB less than power out 200 kW. So 2 kW and a giant antenna are good 
for QRSS QSO at 17 kHz in Europe ;-) 

We should ask to borrow SAQ antenna and try below 9 kHz, in the unassigned 
band ;-)

> At my QTH it is usually audible when SAQ is 
> running but not sending, and you can hear the pitch of the CW note
> decreasing when the TX is shut down.

I've noted the decreasing pitch in 2006, to day the pitch was stable, for me.

TNX Jim and 73

Claudio, ik2pii

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Dear Claudio

> I've observed that when SAQ key was up on my PC screen I can see a very
weak
> signal, as some carrier leakage.
>
> Any info about SAQ key-up ERP radiated?
>
The SAQ alternator runs continuously, and is keyed by using a magnetic
amplifier (saturating reactor) to short circuit the alternator output when
the key is up. However, the impedance of the reactor does not actually reach
zero, so some power is radiated. It is usually about 20 - 25dB down on the
key-down signal level. At my QTH it is usually audible when SAQ is running
but not sending, and you can hear the pitch of the CW note decreasing when
the TX is shut down.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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M. J. Powell wrote:

> In message <46877B69.7080207@otenet.gr>, Alex Deligiannis 
> <sv8qg@otenet.gr> writes
>
>> SAQ was -63 DB key down
>>
>> - 81 to -83 DB key up ( leakage)
>>
>> static noise from -90 to -82 DB on SPM-12 with 31m wire + 6SN7 CF
>
>
> A 6SN7 !  Hooray!
>
> Mike
>
> G3IJE

Yes an old  double triode in cathode follower configuration( the two 
triodes in parallel Ia+ 18 mA) to convert the high impedance of the wire 
antenna to 75 ohms and to isolate the receiving equipment.
A horn arestor at the input of the amplifier regularly sparks during 
thunderstorms but I continue to be QRV something I can't do with modern 
fets (J310, CP666)....

73's
Alex


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Hello LFers,

I had a listen for SAQ but nothing heard.  I knew it was going
to be tough being inland from the Atlantic coast as far as I am.
I used a single turn Delta loop, 111 feet per side, series tuned
and transformer coupled to Johan Bodin's SAQ receiver with 
a balanced 600 ohm line.

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SAQ R3 S5 in Burgundy - lots of QRM - at 1300Z

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In message <46877B69.7080207@otenet.gr>, Alex Deligiannis 
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>
>- 81 to -83 DB key up ( leakage)
>
>static noise from -90 to -82 DB on SPM-12 with 31m wire + 6SN7 CF

A 6SN7 !  Hooray!

Mike

G3IJE
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Nice signal as usual from SAQ celebrating this year the swedish=20
biologist Carl von Linn=E9.

73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR
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At 13:01 1/7/2007, SV8QG wrote:

>SAQ was -63 DB key down
>
>- 81 to -83 DB key up ( leakage)
>
>static noise from -90 to -82 DB on SPM-12 with 31m wire + 6SN7 CF


FB Alex, very good signal.

73 Costas SV1XV






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SAQ was -63 DB key down

- 81 to -83 DB key up ( leakage)

static noise from -90 to -82 DB on SPM-12 with 31m wire + 6SN7 CF

73's
SV8QG  KM39gc

>  
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Hi Brian and all,

Copied here SAQ at 09:00 as well, some 17dB S/N ratio with 160Hz IF BW=20
filter.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti



----- Original Message -----=20
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>
> Hello Jim and the Group,
>
> SAQ copied (heard, yes heard) amidst very considerable static in North=20
> Portugal.
> Used 22mH inductive loading with short inverted L erected last evening.
>
> 73, Brian CT1DRP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:49 01/07/2007, you wrote:
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>>
>>SAQ has been QRV on 17.2kHz since 0837utc - usual strong signal, with=20
>>quite
>>a lot of QRN.
>>
>>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>>73 de M0BMU
>
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Hello Jim and the Group,

SAQ copied (heard, yes heard) amidst very considerable static in North 
Portugal.
Used 22mH inductive loading with short inverted L erected last evening.

73, Brian CT1DRP






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>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU




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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:49:38 +0100
"James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Dear LF Group,
> 
> SAQ has been QRV on 17.2kHz since 0837utc - usual strong signal, with
> quite a lot of QRN.
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> 
I can actually hear it on my lashup 500kHz antenna!

Not moving S meter but Q5!

John GM4SLV


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Dear LF Group,

SAQ has been QRV on 17.2kHz since 0837utc - usual strong signal, with quite
a lot of QRN.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hello all,

Excellent reception of SAQ this morning.
For visual reception an AR7030 was used with its standard 2.4 kHz bandwidth.
Aural copy was on a W&G SPM-30, revealing a 25 dB S/N ratio in a 24 Hz 
bandwidth.
SAQ was received on a SMD mini-whip antenna 5 metre up and with an antenna 
area of 25 x 30 mm copper clad PCB.

Best regards,

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
Middelburg, Netherlands
JO11tm

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GW4HXO audible here this afternoon just above noise.<br>Freq 501.40 kHz.<br>73 Laurie<br>

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On Monday 02 July 2007 12:07, Johan H. Bodin wrote:
> Hello Claudio,
>
> I measured the "backwave" from SAQ a couple of years ago
> and found it to be 17dB below the key-down level.
>
>  > Any info about SAQ key-up ERP radiated?
>
> I have no exact figure but since the nominal output is 200kW,
> and if -17dB is still true, the key-up output power is around
> 4 kW (!)...
>
> I have been told that SAQ once held the "efficiency record"
> for VLF antennas, about 14%, but I have never got that figure
> confirmed so take it with a grain of salt. Anyway, the antenna
> efficiency is worse today than it was when SAQ was young and
> healthy because the performace of the ground system has
> deteriorated over time due to corrosion etc.
> 200 kilometers of copper wire was buried "by hand", without
> the aid of machines!
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM

TNX Johan.

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Hello Claudio,

I measured the "backwave" from SAQ a couple of years ago
and found it to be 17dB below the key-down level.

 > Any info about SAQ key-up ERP radiated?

I have no exact figure but since the nominal output is 200kW,
and if -17dB is still true, the key-up output power is around
4 kW (!)...

I have been told that SAQ once held the "efficiency record"
for VLF antennas, about 14%, but I have never got that figure
confirmed so take it with a grain of salt. Anyway, the antenna
efficiency is worse today than it was when SAQ was young and
healthy because the performace of the ground system has
deteriorated over time due to corrosion etc.
200 kilometers of copper wire was buried "by hand", without
the aid of machines!

73
Johan SM6LKM



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I've received SAQ in Sormano, JN45PU, ABT 50 kM north of Milano.

My rig:
1) E-field antenna (Coca Cola can + home made impedance adapter with J310 fet 
source follower & BFR96 transistor emitter follower)
2) Step-up audio transformer 1:5 ratio
3) Mike input of PC audio Board
4) Specrum Lab program

The signal was 599 (ABT 20 dB over the noise), many statics QRN. No char lost.

I've observed that when SAQ key was up on my PC screen I can see a very weak 
signal, as some carrier leakage. 

Any info about SAQ key-up ERP radiated?

See attached image.

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Hello LF,

I'm just about to start my QRSS-3 beacon on 503.4 for the next hour or
so while I wait for it to get dark.

I'd welcome any reports/screengrabs. Last weekend showed that signals
started to become good & stable after 11pm local time so by then it
might be possible to have a few CW QSOs.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
  

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Hi LF,

Graham G0NBD & I have just completed our second RTTY 23 Hz qso on 503.600 
KHz this time with 100% exchanges.
QSO was from 2010utc to 2103utc.
Graham has sorted his problems out now & can look forward to more 100% copy 
qso's.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the report. XES will not be running on 137.779 for the next 
week. I will do some experiments on 137.577 kHz, but operation will be 
limited.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES 01:00 => 04:00 (good period 02:30 => 03:00)

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



































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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:09:29 +0200
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> >
> Hi John,
> nice to see the signs of my TX on your grabber, jo43sv to ip90gg
> makes 967km. Best regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/di2be
>

Hi Uwe,

Yes, your signal is always very strong up here in the far north!

Always audible by ear!

Best 73 and thanks for the good reliable signal for testing with.

John

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Zitat von John GM4SLV <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> Hello LF group,
>
> While I wait for replacement FETs for the TX I've reinstated my off air
> grabber. It's at:-
>
> http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg
>
> Pic updates every 5 minutes, you'll need to "refresh" manually to see
> the new ones though...no fancy HTML here!
>
> The band seems quiet at the moment.
>
> Regards,
>
> John GM4SLV, Shetland IP90gg
>
>
Hi John,
nice to see the signs of my TX on your grabber, jo43sv to ip90gg makes 967km.
Best regards
Uwe/dj8wx/di2be





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Hello LF group,

While I wait for replacement FETs for the TX I've reinstated my off air 
grabber. It's at:-

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

Pic updates every 5 minutes, you'll need to "refresh" manually to see 
the new ones though...no fancy HTML here!

The band seems quiet at the moment.

Regards,

John GM4SLV, Shetland IP90gg



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Jean-Pierre,

Thank you for last night's report. Tonight's operation will depend on 
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Last night good copy of :

WD2XES 00:45 => 04:30 (good period 02:15 => 03:30)
WD2XNS 01:20 => 03:10 (good period 02:10 => 02:45)

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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You were RST 569 at IO93HS when you called CQ on 502.6 this morning at 
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73 de David G4DMP (also G3KEP)

In a recent message, hamilton mal <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote ...
>Hi all
>A look on 500 abt 2200 z revealed G0NBD 539 not in qso mode, 502.4 khz
>another signal sounding like a zadembti monkey calling a mate on 503.6 khz,
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Hi all
A look on 500 abt 2200 z revealed G0NBD 539 not in qso mode, 502.4 khz
another signal sounding like a zadembti monkey calling a mate on 503.6 khz,
the mate did not reply.
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Jean-Pierre, Henny,

Thanks as always for the reports. I was running the transmitter by 
remote control last night, and shut it off at 0210 UTC.

XES will be on tonight, following a CW QSO with XNS from 0100 to 0130.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES




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Last night copy traces of :

WD2XES 00:30 > 02:30

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht





























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Jim Alan and John - thanks - I cant remember seeing Ankara before but ang on 
a mom, perhaps the old gray matter remembers it from 9M6 - certainly it was 
East of here. Ankara it is! - being roughly on the equator North and South 
is the easy bit..

Ive taken down the loop for the time being as after inspecting the buildings 
lightning conductor condition - or lack of it - Im taking too much risk 
being the highest thing for the nearest 0.5mile - no cone of protection from 
anything worthwhile. So all the antennaes are on retractable fishing rods 
either 8, 11 or 13m varieties off the back balcony. Retractable, given the 
huge amounts of  lightning is probably a reasonable insurance policy.

Ankara DCF39 and Budapest were all within a few dBs of each other and Im 
wondering if Budapest 135.43 is on lower power at the moment as In not 
getting my normal 7-10dB delta here over DCF39.

Ill have the windows 505.1 and 137.775-781 again tonight weather pending and 
load to the web site as normal

Laurence 9V1 LF
http://kl1x.com
thunderstorm 34C



>From: John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com>
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>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:11:50 +0100
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>Laurence, Jim, Alan,
>
>The signal Laurence mentioned is definitely visible here on an Argo 
>3-second screen, on both frequencies. However, it is much weaker than 
>DCF39, which is quite audible at 0100.
>
>John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>

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Hello T/A !

I tested my new antenna single turn loop of 2.2 m=B2,
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Experimental%20Single%20Loop%20.JPG

I copy only a few trace of WD2XNS

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




































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With the realisation that this is not a limited access reflector and anyone
can join and monitor the traffic. Let us assume that an official from Ofcom
has decided to see how their Experimental Permit users are getting along,
and subscribes to the Group.

What does he hear today but a lot of moaning about not being able to operate
if there are more than two signals in the 4khz allocation and suggestion of
limiting it to manual morse (Note QRSS is "CW" !) Where he thinks are all
those innovative people who were going to people this allocation with novel
techniques for using the low power allowed and coexisting in the narrow
allocation. As a professional in the field where manual morse has beed
phased out he may be forgiven for thinking that there is no experimentation
going on and that there will be no need to extend the permit when it lapses
next year. Anyway if the operatiors have no use for a 4khz chunk then what
point is there in considering an allocation here are there are no larger
slots available?.

Yes they dont think like amateurs in the "corridors of power"

One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this
country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal
could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from
Jose-Manual yet !

I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken
into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be sinking
a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at
all.....dont mess it up !

Cheers de Alan G3NYK




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Many Thanks for the idea and data for the modificatiosn of the SoftRock.

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<div>Many Thanks for the idea and data for the modificatiosn of the SoftRock.</div>
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Subject: LF: LF SDR - SoftRock Lite mods for 136k and 500k
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Dear LF Group,

I don't claim any great originality for this, but I have modified a couple
of the SoftRock Lite v6.2 kits by KB9YIG for use on 136k and 500k - the
details are attached.

I changed the local oscillators to 4MHz for 500k and 1MHz for 136k, with the
"x8" jumper set. This gives nominal LO frequencies of 500kHz and 125kHz
respectively, putting the output frequency within the range of a sound card.
At 4MHz, the existing SoftRock LO circuit just about works, but it didn't on
1MHz. I made some component value changes to the oscillator and buffer to
get a reasonable waveform on each band, which are detailed in the
attachment. 4MHz crystals are easy to get - I had several 1MHz xtals in my
junk box, but these seem to be harder to buy now than they once were. An
alternative for 136k would be to use a 1MHz DIL oscillator module, feeding
the flip-flop directly. Another possibility is a 500kHz ceramic resonator,
but the stability is not as good as a crystal.

The original input filter could be re-designed for the LF/MF range, but the
components wouldn't fit on the tiny board, and the rejection of broadcast
band signals would not really be good enough. So I designed off-board input
filters with higher rejection of signals at harmonics of the LO frequency.
Like the original design, these require no adjustment and use fixed value
components - values are given in the attachment. I used 1/2-watt resistor
sixed axial-leaded chokes on 500kHz, which were fine. Similar components had
insufficient Q  at 136k, but the larger radial-leaded chokes wound on a
ferrite bobbin were adequate..The original tuned mixer input balun
transformer is replaced with an un-tuned ferrite-cored transformer.

I have used the two SoftRocks with I2PHD's "Winrad" software, and DL4YHF's
SpecLab, both with excellent results. The Rocky software does not like the
PCs I have available.  The sensitivity is not quite as good as my other
receivers, but since I normally use a preamp with various receiving loops,
this is not important. The sensitivity should be adequate when used with a
TX type antenna. It is important to set up the amplitude and phase balance
carefully, especially on 136kHz, where there is a lot of Loran noise in the
image sideband.

Let me know if you have any problems viewing the attached schematic,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hi,

The line in my previous e-mail :-

"or is anyone geerating it ?"

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On 5 Jul 2007 at 12:22, Alan Melia wrote:

> Whilst I apprciate that the "constant" nature of QRSS can be a
> problem, I am afraid there are some misconceptions about its use. It
> should NOT be NECESSARY to send a morse call at "normal" speeds. This
> may be advisable in some cases, in the way of making normal qsos, but
> it is no more "necessary" than a 30wpm operator needing to send his ID
> at 5wpm. The mode is actually morse and 3sec dot can be read audibly
> with a little practice. It became unnecessary for RTTY operators to
> send a morse ID many years ago (this was anyway for the benefit of the
> RIS officers, not other amateurs), and this archaic regulation is even
> less necessary now we have fairly common usage of these modes and
> common PC usage within many stations. If you dont want to use a PC in
> your station that is fair but it is sufficient surely to know that the
> mode exists, it has been around a long time at LF.

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree....

There are a lot of casual listeners to 500kHz who will not be aware 
of QRSS. Probably far more than ever listened to 136kHz. Whatever you 
say they are not familiar with QRSS or why people use it. As far as 
they are concerned they just hear lots of people 'tuning up', and 
very few of us have the patience to listen to 3s dot QRSS just to 
identify who it is. CW id is essential, and I would suggest 5wpm is 
far too slow - 15-20wpm is optimum and does not interrupt your QRSS 
flow too much.

You may have guessed I am not an enthusiast for this mode....

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Whilst I apprciate that the "constant" nature of QRSS can be a problem, I am
afraid there are some misconceptions about its use. It should NOT be
NECESSARY to send a morse call at "normal" speeds. This may be advisable in
some cases, in the way of making normal qsos, but it is no more "necessary"
than a 30wpm operator needing to send his ID at 5wpm. The mode is actually
morse and 3sec dot can be read audibly with a little practice. It became
unnecessary for RTTY operators to send a morse ID many years ago (this was
anyway for the benefit of the RIS officers, not other amateurs), and this
archaic regulation is even less necessary now we have fairly common usage of
these modes and common PC usage within many stations. If you dont want to
use a PC in your station that is fair but it is sufficient surely to know
that the mode exists, it has been around a long time at LF.

There is another reason for not sending "normal" speed morse ids. It
precludes the efficient stacking of QRSS stations which can exist within a
very narrow bandwidth. On 136 I have seen as many as 6 stations in a
bandwidth of less than 1Hz. The morse id also sometimes causes confusion
with the identification of the weak QRSS information at extreme range. This
is a narrow band and we are hardly in the QRM situation. Only on a few
occasions have I seen more than three stations active at the same time. At
the same time, one must not expect to be able to operate with a barn-door
wide receiver and blame its failings on everyone else.

QRSS has other uses. We tend in the UK to be very parochial, and on several
occasions on 136kHz operators tried to impose our idea of a "band plan" on
operators in other countires, where conditions were different. At present
there is 500khz interest in many European counties but they are not in the
fortunate position of being able to transmit. (The exception being several
special "commercial" permits). Our use of QRSS gives then something to
listen (look ?) for and keeps the flag flying for a world wide band in this
area. It is also giving useful information about the potential range covered
by transmissions and aiding our case for an eventual sensible operating
power level. Interest soon flags if you cant hear any signals, and
international support will be necessary if we are to achieve a band here. It
is unfortunate that the ARRL sponsored FCC Part 5 permits in this area have
concentrated on using 500k as an interstate chat band. This is
understandable when considering the nature of the application with reference
the emergency comms, but it adds little to our case for an international
allocation.

Alan G3NYK



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Hi LFs

SAQ great signal here IO91UX 

1/ RX TS690s +HB 3meg self osillating mixer. No front end. 
Ant 80m inv dipole up 12m.
2/ RX JOHAN BODIN SM6LKM software RX with 40m LW up 12m.

RST 57/89 signal.

PeteFMT  


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Just received SAQ with very strong signal abt 60dB over noise !

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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Thanks, Roelof.

Nice screen grab. Conditions seem good at the moment. The distance between
us is about 290 km, and I guess that the distance to G3YXM is a bit more,
perhaps nearer 400 km.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker
  Sent: 14 July 2007 18:59
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  Subject: LF: G3YXM & G3WCB


  Hello Dave & Dave,

  Attached is a crop selection of an ARGO screenshot taken today at 17:46
UTC.
  The signal of Dave, G3YXM was 13 dB over my noise floor as received on my
SPM-30 and micro-whip. The faster CW ID, visible as the blurr at the right
side of the screenshot was a 100% aural copy with my 12 Hz wide audio
filter.

  The signal of Dave, G3WCB is 3 dB stronger.

  Nice conditions at the moment with the better part of Europe static free!

  Best regards,
  Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D401234119-14072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Nice=20
screen grab. Conditions seem good at the moment. The distance between us =
is=20
about 290 km, and I guess that the distance to G3YXM is a bit more, =
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nearer 400 km.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D401234119-14072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D401234119-14072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  Bakker<BR><B>Sent:</B> 14 July 2007 18:59<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G3YXM &amp;=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Dave &amp; Dave,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Attached is a crop selection of an =
ARGO=20
  screenshot taken today at 17:46 UTC.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal of Dave, G3YXM was 13 dB =
over my noise=20
  floor as received on my SPM-30 and micro-whip. The faster CW ID, =
visible as=20
  the blurr at the right side of the screenshot was a 100% aural copy=20
  with&nbsp;my 12 Hz wide audio filter.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The signal of Dave, G3WCB is 3 dB=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nice conditions at the moment with =
the better=20
  part of Europe static free!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Middelburg, Netherlands,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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Thank you for that tip, Walter.

I will give it a try.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Staubach
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Dear Dave,
        the SPM-3 handles symmetric ( bottom and middle port ) and
assymetrical signals ( bottom or middle port and upper port, which is
ground. ) If you take an ohmmeter you will not find a connection between
ground and bottom or middle port, but between bottom and middle port
something like 50Ohm. Hope this was the reason and the equipment is ok.
73   Walter   DJ2LF / DI2AG

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
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An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>
>Dear LFers,
>
>I have just acquired a Wandel & Golterman SPM-3, but it seems a bit deaf.
>The wide-band setting works OK, but the "Selective" channel can't be
>calibrated, and is 15 dB low in gain. Looks like a popped front-end or a
>damaged input circuit. I've opened up the case, but all the innards are in
>screened metal boxes.
>
>Is this a common fault with this unit, and does anyone have experience of
>this fault? (and managed to fix it!)
>
>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>






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Hi Laurence,

No more disturbances so I will beacon again tonight on 136.319
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Hi Laurence,<br><br>No more disturbances so I will beacon again tonight on 136.319<br>73 Laurie<br>

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Thanks Laurence, yes condx do look quite good at the moment but expect a
change after tomorrow...plus we seem to have a new growing sunspot #963
which is getting quite excited.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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> Ankara, Budapest and DCF39 were good audible levels this morning on a
> Singapore pre dawn. Some whizz bangs from not so local tstorms. No one
seen
> in the 137.775 to 137.781 window at dot 30 slow
>
> Laurence 9V1 LF
> Clear +34C
> 0800 Local 10th July 2007
> http://kl1x.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
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>



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Hello gang,

Thanks for looking for my QRSS last night. Obviously yesterday was not
to be the day!

Had 2 QSOs with Mal 'KEV and a signal report from GM4JYB on Dunnet
Head, so at least some RF is radiating.

I was hoping for a few hours during peak darkness to have try last
night but that was scuppered by my own clumsiness!

My TX uses a VFO running at 8MHz divided by 16. The VFO is stabilized
by a huff/puff circuit and during testing had proved to be rock solid.
I've run QRSS-10 at 15W into test load overnight and the frequency
hasn't varied by 1Hz.

To increase the TX power to that necessary to achieve my ERP target,
which calculation suggests needs 0.7A RF, I fed the PA section with a
variable 0-60V PSU. At 20V I achieved 25W and 0.7A RF. Fine and dandy.

Later in the day I noticed that the VFO was not staying locked when in
TX mode, and once it unlocked it stayed slowly free falling until the
huff/puff circuit was re-set. I found at 10w or so out that it was
stable. I guess there's RF getting in somewhere and upsetting it.

I put in lots of extra decoupling and clamp-on ferrites but to no
avail. The VFO itself is in a screened box of PCB material, but the
huff/puff is open. I'll rebuild the two circuits into one eddystone
box...

During the investigation into the drifting VFO I inadvertantly over
stressed the MOSFETs in the PA (over volts) and turned them into
permanently ON switches.

No spares!!

I was thinking of a redesign anyway, so I'll take this opportunity to
do that. I expect to be back on the air in a day or so. 

Jim 'BMU's design uses IRF520/IRF9520 complementary pair to acheive
push pull from a single phase drive. I think I'll go the old way and
use bi-phase drive and a "normal" pair of N-Channel FETs. I have a
ready supply of IRF150 (or BUZ24) which are TO3 cased HEXFETs that we
use at work in 28 volt 20amp SMPSUs. These are fed with 50V DC and
switch regulate to 28V so I guess they should handle the volts/current
to get 25W at 500kHz? Does anyone have any experience of the devices?

Sorry to have appeared and disappeared so rapidly. That'll teach me to
have enough spares for the PA FETs!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV


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Laurie,

I will be watching. My sunset is at 0015 UTC, though, and the best long 
haul prop lately has been after 0100 UTC. The frequency should be OK, 
with a visible Loran line only 0.85 Hz lower.

It would be nice to see something from across the pond if your 
wakefulness permits.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Having burnt the bugs out of the 137kHz loading coil this afternoon
I will run a beacon signal this evening, QRSS60 on 137.699kHz
from about 20:00 utc until I need to go to bed ! Ant. current 5.8A
so not too bad, 0.9-1.0 W erp.

All reports welcome.

73 Laurie G3AQC

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Having burnt the bugs out of the 137kHz loading coil this afternoon<br>I will run a beacon signal this evening, QRSS60 on 137.699kHz<br>from about 20:00 utc until I need to go to bed ! Ant. current 5.8A<br>so not too bad, 
0.9-1.0 W erp.<br><br>All reports welcome.<br><br>73 Laurie G3AQC<br>

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It's now been 4 months since we've had use of the 500 kHz experimental band.
I notched up my 150th  QSO on this band today - congratulations to G3YMC who was number 150 . . HI !

It's unfortunate but some of the callsigns which were frequently heard on 500 in the earlier days now seem silent.
There are however a few potential new ops in the pipeline so with luck we can keep activity at a decent level.

Those I've worked so far, with number of contacts, in alphabetical order :-

G0NBD - 1
G0MRF - 1
G3AQC - 10
G3GRO - 4
G3KEV - 26
G3KZU - 1
G3OLB - 1
G3ROO - 4
G3UNT - 20
G3VTT - 20
G3WCB - 1
G3XAQ - 8
G3YMC - 4
G3YXM - 5
G4GDR - 12
GI3PDN - 7
GI4DPE - 5
GW3UEP - 2
M0BMU - 2
M0FMT - 16

Those I still want to work:

G3JFS
G3MRP
G3WGT
G3YVF
GW4HXO

I think some QRSS activity would be beneficial in moderation.
With this mode the peripheral and/or weaker stations could have regular and reliable Q5 contacts with the whole country.
I've been putting out CQ's on 503.3 kHz QRSS-3 some evenings but to date have not had any QRSS contacts.
Please call if you hear (or see) me - on QRSS or CW if you think possible.

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It's now been 4 months since we've had use of the 500 kHz experimental band.<br>I notched up my 150th&nbsp; QSO on this band today - congratulations to G3YMC who was number 150 . . HI !<br><br>It's unfortunate but some of the callsigns which were frequently heard on 500 in the earlier days now seem silent.<br>There are however a few potential new ops in the pipeline so with luck we can keep activity at a decent level.<br><br>Those I've worked so far, with number of contacts, in alphabetical order :-<br><br>G0NBD - 1<br>G0MRF - 1<br>G3AQC - 10<br>G3GRO - 4<br>G3KEV - 26<br>G3KZU - 1<br>G3OLB - 1<br>G3ROO - 4<br>G3UNT - 20<br>G3VTT - 20<br>G3WCB - 1<br>G3XAQ - 8<br>G3YMC - 4<br>G3YXM - 5<br>G4GDR - 12<br>GI3PDN - 7<br>GI4DPE - 5<br>GW3UEP - 2<br>M0BMU - 2<br>M0FMT - 16<br><br>Those I still want to work:<br><br>G3JFS<br>G3MRP<br>G3WGT<br>G3YVF<br>GW4HXO<br><br>I think some QRSS activity would be beneficial in moderation.<br>With this mode the peripheral and/or weaker stations
 could have regular and reliable Q5 contacts with the whole country.<br>I've been putting out CQ's on 503.3 kHz QRSS-3 some evenings but to date have not had any QRSS contacts.<br>Please call if you hear (or see) me - on QRSS or CW if you think possible.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73 Chris G3XIZ &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp;  <br><br><br><br><br><p>&#32;


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Hi Chris & All,

I am in favour of the band plan, it looks fine to me. I have always tried to 
operate my beacon transmissions well away from QSO's (503.600 KHz).

I do believe that there is a case for beacons as proven in Jim's (M0BMU) 
early morning e-mail & capture today showing a long period fading report for 
2 beacons.

Perhaps the answer to banning beacons at a certain time period would be to 
ask beacon operators to use a much lower power level at these periods, say 
down to Chris's recommended qrp level of <10 mW ERP. I recently ran my 
beacon for a long period at 1 mW ERP & received reports from Europe.

As the band plan is for discussion at the moment changes can be made if 
required, but it looks like Chris has accommodated for the rock bound users 
as well.

Thanks to Chris for the idea & well spent time compiling the plan for 
discussion.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CHRISTOPHER OSBORN" <c.cjo@btinternet.com>
To: "LF group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: LF: 500 - BAND PLAN


> CT
> DISCUSSION POINTS
>
> Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as possible to 
> the inconvenience of as few as possible.
>
> There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons from the 
> 'straight' cw segment of the band.
>
> There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times of 
> likely high cw activity (weekends).
>
> QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations.
>
> As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, local 
> QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's with more 
> distant stations.
>
> It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate 'homing 
> in' on weaker stations.
>
> Is there a  case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal controlled 
> transmission ?
>
> 73 G3XIZ SK
>
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WCB...
Tks Dave - signature noted - VFO is ~2" from PA & no external heatsink.
Wasn't really designed for qro-beacon duty-cycle - will upgrade osc =
sometime - it's only a pocket-sized toy!
Intend to build a man-sized one, DIY permitting.
Feedback appreciated.
Rog.

----- Original Message -----=20
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Yup,

that's GW3UEP's "signature". Pretty good going, Wolf. (& Rog)

GW3UEP is about RST 229 by ear at the moment, but if last night's
performance is to be repeated, I'd expect Rog to get to workable =
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sometime around 0000utc. It's probably a couple of extra E-layer hops to
DL-land, so the timing may be different.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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And, last not least, on 501.50 + a few Hz: Not identifyable yet, but at
least visible on the waterfall.

Nothing seen on 502.2 yet. I have a 60 MByte long audio file
(I/Q-recording) covering 494...506 kHz, but not enough webspace to
upload it ;-)

73 + GN,
  Wolf DL4YHF .



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Finbar GI4DPE beaconing on 501.05 this morning, copyable at about 549 here.

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Hello T/A !

This night, I tested my new antenna single loop of 2.2 m=B2,
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/Experimental%20Single%20Loop%20.JPG

Good copy of WD2XES 01:00 =3D> 03:30

the files of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

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Mni tks Wolf - that's a first.
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And, last not least, on 501.50 + a few Hz: Not identifyable yet, but at=20
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Hi Tom,

This is the official way out :-


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Hi John, Yes that is my reading of things too.....not just a "me too" after
the event :-))   I mailed the Lauries with a similar thought this
morning....thanks for the observations on the BC stuff that is most useful
as confirmation.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Laurence,
>
> Alan can step in and correct me, but I don't think that the recent
> coronal hole events have amounted to much in terms of propagation at 136
> kHz. Peak levels seem to go down for a day or so, and then there are a
> couple of days of more frequent fading. I've also been hearing LW
> broadcast stuff that rarely was audible in the summer a few years ago
> under more active solar conditions.
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> John Andrews, W1TAG
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>



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Laurence,

Alan can step in and correct me, but I don't think that the recent 
coronal hole events have amounted to much in terms of propagation at 136 
kHz. Peak levels seem to go down for a day or so, and then there are a 
couple of days of more frequent fading. I've also been hearing LW 
broadcast stuff that rarely was audible in the summer a few years ago 
under more active solar conditions.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Just as an aside the Russian/Asiatic LW bcst stations on 153,164,189 KHz  a=
re the
strongest Ive heard them from here so far - but I seem to remember the same=
 sort of thing when the Kp index rose when I was listening from Shanghai - =
probably a coincidence,...
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Ok - thanks Laurie - sigs were "ok" last night but heavy qrn and weve had q=
uite a few storms today a la tropical weather.Thanks for the signals - Ill =
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ances Kp=3D4 on 29 and 30th so will notbeacon for a couple of nights see ho=
w it settles down. 73 Laurie.

See what you=92re getting into=85before you go there. Check it out!=20
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strongest Ive heard them from here so far - but I seem to remember the same=
 sort of thing when the Kp index rose when I was listening from Shanghai - =
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Laurence 9v1lf<BR>
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Ok - thanks Laurie - sigs were "ok" last night but heavy qrn and weve had q=
uite a few storms today a la tropical weather.<BR>Thanks for the signals - =
Ill leave the Singapore Slinger (grabber 1) on the 137.775-781 window and t=
he other grabber on 505.1 or so.<BR>Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><A href=3D"http://kl=
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Ok - thanks Laurie - sigs were "ok" last night but heavy qrn and weve had q=
uite a few storms today a la tropical weather.
Thanks for the signals - Ill leave the Singapore Slinger (grabber 1) on the=
 137.775-781 window and the other grabber on 505.1 or so.
Laurence 9V1 LF
http://kl1x.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:24:27 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: !37 AgainHi LaurenceSmall disturb=
ances Kp=3D4 on 29 and 30th so will notbeacon for a couple of nights see ho=
w it settles down. 73 Laurie.
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<body>Ok - thanks Laurie - sigs were "ok" last night but heavy qrn and weve=
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Thanks for the signals - Ill leave the Singapore Slinger (grabber 1) on the=
 137.775-781 window and the other grabber on 505.1 or so.<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR>
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Yup,

that's GW3UEP's "signature". Pretty good going, Wolf. (& Rog)

GW3UEP is about RST 229 by ear at the moment, but if last night's
performance is to be repeated, I'd expect Rog to get to workable strength
sometime around 0000utc. It's probably a couple of extra E-layer hops to
DL-land, so the timing may be different.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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And, last not least, on 501.50 + a few Hz: Not identifyable yet, but at
least visible on the waterfall.

Nothing seen on 502.2 yet. I have a 60 MByte long audio file
(I/Q-recording) covering 494...506 kHz, but not enough webspace to
upload it ;-)

73 + GN,
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Thanks to John & Jose for interesting 500 KHz links.

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Hello John and all,

Perhaps some marine station can be heard tomorrow  on 500kHz.

See: http://www.radiomarine.org/


73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX







----- Original Message -----=20
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> Hello again,
>
> I thought, in the quiet moments before I start wielding the soldering
> iron in a frenzy to get QRV on 500kHz, that I'd share a website that
> contains a few recordings of 500kHz in "the good old days".
>
> http://mikea.ath.cx//coastal
>
> I particularly like the recoding of the Queen Mary's last eastbound
> trip and the "English Channel Tea Party".
>
> I'd also recommend (assuming you all don't already have a copy)
> "QRT500" the DVD, which I got from an eBay seller, which shows footage
> of the last night on 500kHz at Lands End GLD.
>
> Hopefully I'll get some components in the post today and I can start
> building my 500kHz TX.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John GM4SLV
>
> --=20
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Hello J.B. and all,

The Navtex station here, in La Coru=F1a, has 1 kW of power output, with a=
 27 m=20
vertical whip. I made measurements of the radiated power, and the result =
was=20
40W EMRP.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, loc IN53ti





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> Hello LFers,
>
> Anyone here happen to know how much power and into
> what type of antenna do Navtex stations use?
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> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hi Rog,

A follow up of my previous mail I have attached a grab of your signal as 
seen here in Lancashire.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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Would appreciate comp reports pls.

HXO on 503.7
UEP o 501.5

Tks, Rog 

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Hi Rog,

HXO -  RST 319 with QSB to 419 at times
UEP - Just visible on SpecLab

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

 

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Would appreciate comp reports pls.

HXO on 503.7
UEP o 501.5

Tks, Rog


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Dear LF Group,

G3XIZ has now been joined by M0BMU on 503.320kHz, also using QRSS3 with =
a CW ID. Since Chris and myself are quite close together, it would be =
interesting to see how the QSB compares on the two signals

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN=20
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  I'll be putting out a few QRSS-3  CQ calls on 503.3 kHz this evening.
  After which I'll beacon my call sign for a short while.

  73 Chris G3XIZ





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Hi Hartmut,

Thanks for the screen shot, I am well pleased with that for 1 mW ERP, using 
improved vertical antenna, details on my web site on this page. The vertical 
12 mtr wire section (not mentioned on that page) is made up of 8 strands of 
insulated flex twisted like simple Litz wire.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page19.html

I did not change power at all, from 1940utc to QRT at 2220utc the power was 
1 mW ERP.

The G0MRF Tx PA DC input was 2.5 watts (2.5 volts at 1A) the antenna current 
is about
0.05 A.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/
Web site updated 10/07/2007




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <h-wolff@gmx.de>
To: "Gary - G4WGT" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 QRP Beacon


> Hi Gary,
>
> only partial copy until 22:10 UTC. I posted a screenshot to my
> website:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm
>
> Did you change power after 22:15? Good copy 22:15-22:20.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>> Hi LF,
>
>> For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on
>> 503.600 KHz at QRP level
>> ie. 1 mW ERP
>
>> Reports will be most welcome.
>
>> 73
>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
> 



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Hi Gary,

only partial copy until 22:10 UTC. I posted a screenshot to my
website:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest500kHz.htm

Did you change power after 22:15? Good copy 22:15-22:20.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp


> Hi LF,

> For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on 
> 503.600 KHz at QRP level
> ie. 1 mW ERP

> Reports will be most welcome.

> 73

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Hi LF,

For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on 
503.600 KHz at QRP level
ie. 1 mW ERP

Reports will be most welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp 



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Hi Jim,
Your CW signals S5 (2.5S points above the noise level)

Peter, G3LDO (1930hrs)




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>  
> I am now (1614utc) transmitting a QRSS3 / CW beacon signal on 503.8kHz 
> for the next few hours for some antenna tests.
>  
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>  



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Dear Jose, LF Group,

I am now (1614utc) transmitting a QRSS3 / CW beacon signal on 503.8kHz =
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73 de M0BMU

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Hello Andrey, Thank you for the capture, at least my signal is getting as
far as you.
73 Laurie

On 30/07/07, Andrey RN3AGC <rn3agc@mail.ru> wrote:
>
> Hello Lawrence.
> Capture of your beacon in 00.00z (KO85SV)
> 73
>

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Hello Andrey, Thank you for the capture, at least my signal is getting as far as you.<br>73 Laurie<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 30/07/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andrey RN3AGC</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru">
rn3agc@mail.ru</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello Lawrence.<br>Capture of your beacon in 00.00z (KO85SV)
<br>73<br></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello Lawrence.
Capture of your beacon in 00.00z (KO85SV)
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Hi,

I've just put a couple of recordings made in Shetland of Colin G3VTT
and Finbar GI4DPE on the web at 

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gi4dpe.mp3
http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/g3vtt.mp3

Finbar was quite strong, but at 00:45 UTS there were lots of static
crashes. Colin was much weaker, but on a quiet band.

Still "watching" M0BMU, G3YXM and G3WCB QRSS-3, which is now showing
signs of fading after a period of good strength and stability. 

Regards,

John GM4SLV

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Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
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Hi All
Yet another CW QSO with GM4SLV 559/569 at 1410 utc surprised no one else
hearing him.
G3VTT/p  is going strong on 502 with 2 kites airborne good sig peaking 599
with qsb.
73 Mal/G3KEV



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Hi Laurence
Small disturbances Kp=4 on 29 and 30th so will not
beacon for a couple of nights see how it settles down.

73 Laurie.

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Hi Laurence<br>Small disturbances Kp=4 on 29 and 30th so will not<br>beacon for a couple of nights see how it settles down. <br><br>73 Laurie.<br>

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Mal, Wonder what time you hrd me pls?  My ERP is now +6dB on previous =
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Rog
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Hi All
Condx on 500 have been above average recently and I could hear GW3UEP, =
who I
normally do not hear, also G0NBD for the first time.
The vy wet WX must be enhancing our earthing systems and contributing to
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Finbar is 579 daytime    599 during the night.

Mike  GW4HXO.
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Finbar GI4DPE beaconing on 501.05 this morning, copyable at about 549 here.

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Hi all
Three new ones for me yesterday.
G4DMP/Leeds
G3BIK/Morpeth
G0MRF/Heathrow

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Hi Dave Nice sig here (of course !) Good Luck with John...he is going to be
awfully popular that he will have to buy a season ticket for his XYL to
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Cheers de Alan G3NYK  JO02pb

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> Hi, John.
>
> I'm currently in beacon mode QRSS3 503.325 kHz with an ERP of about 50mW
> until 2300hrs UTC tonight. Let me know if you see anything!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Hi, John.

I'm currently in beacon mode QRSS3 503.325 kHz with an ERP of about 50mW
until 2300hrs UTC tonight. Let me know if you see anything!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:37 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John, LF
>
> It sounds like you're making good progress. I looked up your QTH on a
> locator map last night - it's nearly a thousand kilometers from
> here...serious DX for 500 kHz!
>

Hi Dave,

Yes, just about everywhere's serious DX from up here!


> Your RX might benefit from having a tuned pre-amp in front to add a
> bit of extra gain and selectivity. I'm using a design with a J-310
> FET, taken from G3YXM's LF web-pages. IF transformers robbed from
> junked transistor portables are ideal for the purpose.

The AR7030 has a MDS of around -123dBm so I'd guess it's not going to
improve much by adding gain. I always though that "if you hear the
noise increase on a quiet band when you plug the antenna in then you've
got enough receiver sensitivity" I'm happy to give a pre-amp a try
though to see if it helps.

> If you need a QRSS beacon signal while you're tweaking you
> antenna/RX, drop me an e-mail via the reflector or direct. I would
> think that evenings would be best for these sort of distances, but
> who knows? We're all still trying to understand how the band works,
> especially over long-ish distances.

I'm happy to give reports/screen captures to anyone who's interested in
how well they're reaching this far flung outpost.

I'm currently hearing GW3UEP's CW beacon on 501.1 amid the static
crashes.

If you fancy a try at QRSS let me know. My XYL is down on Orkney for
the weekend, so I've plenty of time to play radio!

Cheers,

John



--
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org





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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:37 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, John, LF
> 
> It sounds like you're making good progress. I looked up your QTH on a
> locator map last night - it's nearly a thousand kilometers from
> here...serious DX for 500 kHz!
>

Hi Dave,

Yes, just about everywhere's serious DX from up here!


> Your RX might benefit from having a tuned pre-amp in front to add a
> bit of extra gain and selectivity. I'm using a design with a J-310
> FET, taken from G3YXM's LF web-pages. IF transformers robbed from
> junked transistor portables are ideal for the purpose.

The AR7030 has a MDS of around -123dBm so I'd guess it's not going to
improve much by adding gain. I always though that "if you hear the
noise increase on a quiet band when you plug the antenna in then you've
got enough receiver sensitivity" I'm happy to give a pre-amp a try
though to see if it helps.

> If you need a QRSS beacon signal while you're tweaking you
> antenna/RX, drop me an e-mail via the reflector or direct. I would
> think that evenings would be best for these sort of distances, but
> who knows? We're all still trying to understand how the band works,
> especially over long-ish distances.

I'm happy to give reports/screen captures to anyone who's interested in
how well they're reaching this far flung outpost.

I'm currently hearing GW3UEP's CW beacon on 501.1 amid the static
crashes. 

If you fancy a try at QRSS let me know. My XYL is down on Orkney for
the weekend, so I've plenty of time to play radio!

Cheers,

John



-- 
G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214
Member : RSGB, ARRL
Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG 
Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org


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Hi, John, LF

It sounds like you're making good progress. I looked up your QTH on a
locator map last night - it's nearly a thousand kilometers from
here...serious DX for 500 kHz!

Your RX might benefit from having a tuned pre-amp in front to add a bit of
extra gain and selectivity. I'm using a design with a J-310 FET, taken from
G3YXM's LF web-pages. IF transformers robbed from junked transistor
portables are ideal for the purpose.

If you need a QRSS beacon signal while you're tweaking you antenna/RX, drop
me an e-mail via the reflector or direct. I would think that evenings would
be best for these sort of distances, but who knows? We're all still trying
to understand how the band works, especially over long-ish distances.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England.



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Hi all,

A brief update from the far north.

I've now got a working TX and I'm waiting for my NOV to arrive.

I built a version of the recently published design by Jim M0BMU,
although not using his ceramic oscillator.

My version uses an VFO that I'd previously built for a phasing RX. I
moved it from 40m to 8MHz, and divided by 16 to get 500kHz. It has a
huff/puff stabilizer, and I'd already gone to great lengths to get the
VFO reasonably stable without the huff/puff. With the stabilizer in use
I've found I can transmit (into load) for > 10 hours of constant
carrier and the output frequency stays constant, to the accuracy I can
measure.

I left it on overnight recently, into load, and fed my RX audio into a
PC running SpecLab. In "QRSS-30" mode, the waterfall line stayed
on a constant frequency throughout, and was still rock steady the next
morning! Keying the TX has no effect on the frequency either, no
chirp, no jumping huff/puff "lock points". It should certainly be good
enough for QRSS-10 or slower.

The TX produces 16W, and my 2 stage 1/2 wave LPF has the 2nd & 3rd
harmonics at 64dB below the carrier. It produce a constant carrier
indefinitely with no overheating (65% efficiency). I chose not to key
the dc feed to the PA via a FET and current limiting circuit as Jim's
design - to get just a bit more voltage to the FETS! I altered the
Drain transformer ratios to get a bit more than the 11w initially
available. I'm toying with the idea of upping the volts a bit to get
more power in hand in case I can't get enough RF current into the
antenna.

I've just refurbished my poorly AR7030 receiver, replacing all the front
end LPF/HPF filter components and the 1st mixer IC to rectify the
damage it suffered a few months ago. Sensitivity is better, as is
linearity, whether the sensitivity is necessary on MF is a moot point,
since external noise seems to be the limiting factor.

I have heard a few stations this week, not as many as I'd hoped, but
not had much time to listen/watch.

I've seen QRSS-3 from G3XIZ, heard Finbar GI4DPE's CW beacon in daylight
at RST229 and this evening, again in daylight, heard G3UNT calling CQ on
502.1kHz. He was also only 229, it took some time to be sure of the
callsign, but it was a nice bright trace on the waterfall and QRSS-3
would have been easily possible.

I've been getting lots of advice from Alan G3NYK and next step is to
prepare some form of variometer tuning to replace the L/variable C that
I'm tuning the antenna with for receive.

I've been experimenting with an impedance bridge to estimate ground
loss, and the results are encouraging so I should be able to get the
thing resonant and matched ready to radiate as soon as the NOV arrives.

Best 73 from the far north. At least it's starting to get a bit darker
up here now as autumn approaches!

John

--
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On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 10:42 +0100, Gw3UEP wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob,
> Any news on NoV?
> My Tx might be off occ today for ant work -it's summer!
> Rog.
>  
> P.S. That sig you spotted was Mike at 1W o/p using qrp resistive
> reflectometer - detected passing van!
>  
> [could go on ur website as well].
>  
Must be all that salt water between Mike and I.

Here's a pic of your sig on the Softrock.  I measured your frequency as
501.501kHz (must be a bit cooler in your shack).

I'll repeat the exercise when the Pro audio card is installed.

Bob GW3LTX

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Bob,
Any news on NoV?
My Tx might be off occ today for ant work -it's summer!
Rog.

P.S. That sig you spotted was Mike at 1W o/p using qrp resistive =
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[could go on ur website as well].

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nice capture ra3yo
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henny pa3cpm
jo22mb
best 73s
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Going to miss you in the marshes Colin 'cos we are off caravanning in =
S.Devon (not far away) for a few days, but will be active HF CW. =
However, properly built 500K Tx nearing completion (as opposed to bench =
lash-up), so should be properly active soon with a decent antenna.=20

73
Tom G3OLB

----- Original Message -----=20
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  In a message dated 16/07/2007 08:01:00 GMT Standard Time, =
tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk writes:
    Band full of beacons this morning: GW4HXO 589; GW3UEP 579; GI4DPE =
559.

    Tom G3OLB
  Not a sausage here in the Far East Tom although I thought I heard =
somebody sending three dots in between static crashes!=20

  The crashes are reaching 20 over 9 here and giving the control grid on =
the mixer a right hammering - never mind the ECF82 can take it. I am =
about to try an NE602 mixer circuit.

  I've applied for permission to go portable again next weekend from the =
marsh near High Halstow, winds and rain permitting. Hope to hear and =
work you then.

  73

  G3VTT


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  somebody sending&nbsp;three dots in between static crashes! </DIV>
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work you=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Colin,

 > I am about to try an NE602 mixer circuit.

That chip is not worth wasting any time on. There are
much better, yet simple, alternatives that can handle
huge signals without problems. Example:

   http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/index.html

With suitable transformers, these chips will work UFB on LF/MF.
Considering the high level capabilities of these mixers, make
sure that you wear adequate eye protection (welding goggles)
before starting Argo :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM


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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:40:22 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 16/07/2007 08:01:00 GMT Standard Time,  
> tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk writes:
> 
> Band full of beacons this morning: GW4HXO 589;  GW3UEP 579; GI4DPE
> 559. 
> Tom G3OLB
> 
> 
> 
> Not a sausage here in the Far East Tom although I thought I heard
> somebody sending three dots in between static crashes! 
>

Hearing Finbar really well on 503.350 this morning. He's raised the
height of his antenna - he tells me:- 

"I got cracking on the antenna raising effort after lunch and now have
a Spiderbeam whip at the top of my  60 ft tilt over tower,  the speaker
wire does pull over the whip a bit , but the overall  height must be
about  80 feet, with the outer end of the inverted L  almost coming
down to ground level."



It's a nice strong signal up here in Shetland, in daylight.

My grabber is running continuously at the moment - pic at :

http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/gm4slv_speclab.jpg

I'll leave it going (5 minute updates) all day today.

Lots of static crashes though!

Nothing seen/heard of the other beacons. 

Finbar is only 673km away - so that's almos a local for me!

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
Shetland
IP90gg


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In a message dated 16/07/2007 08:01:00 GMT Standard Time,  
tom@telemetry.demon.co.uk writes:

Band full of beacons this morning: GW4HXO 589;  GW3UEP 579; GI4DPE 559.
 
Tom G3OLB



Not a sausage here in the Far East Tom although I thought I heard somebody  
sending three dots in between static crashes! 
 
The crashes are reaching 20 over 9 here and giving the control grid on the  
mixer a right hammering - never mind the ECF82 can take it. I am about to try 
an  NE602 mixer circuit.
 
I've applied for permission to go portable again next weekend from the  marsh 
near High Halstow, winds and rain permitting. Hope to hear and work you  then.
 
73
 
G3VTT
 
 



   

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Good signals and weve been joined by another FSK signal. Im getting confuse=
d as I thought Ankara was down on 135...so
at the moment we have:-
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FSK 135.785/135.685, ish Khz peak dispersion as seen on qrs3
Buda-pest 135.43 mark
DCF 138.83 ish mark
FSK 139.040/138.965 Khz ish , peak dispersion
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The FSK on 135.785 is more rarely heard -think only once before from Shangh=
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=20
DCF39 sitting back at good signals at s9 -=20
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Have a good morning/night -=20
=20



> From: alan.melia@btinternet.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: =
Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:54:24 +0100> Subject: Re: LF: Kp-4> > Hi John, Yes that=
 is my reading of things too.....not just a "me too" after> the event :-)) =
I mailed the Lauries with a similar thought this> morning....thanks for the=
 observations on the BC stuff that is most useful> as confirmation.> > Chee=
rs de Alan G3NYK> > ----- Original Message -----> From: John Andrews <w1tag=
@w1tag.com>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>> Sent: 30 July 2007 16:01> =
Subject: Re: LF: Kp-4> > > > Laurence,> >> > Alan can step in and correct m=
e, but I don't think that the recent> > coronal hole events have amounted t=
o much in terms of propagation at 136> > kHz. Peak levels seem to go down f=
or a day or so, and then there are a> > couple of days of more frequent fad=
ing. I've also been hearing LW> > broadcast stuff that rarely was audible i=
n the summer a few years ago> > under more active solar conditions.> >> > J=
ohn Andrews, W1TAG> >> >> >=20
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<body>Good signals and weve been joined by another FSK signal. Im getting c=
onfused as I thought Ankara was down on 135...so<BR>
at the moment we have:-<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
FSK 135.785/135.685, ish Khz&nbsp;peak dispersion as seen on qrs3<BR>
Buda-pest 135.43 mark<BR>
DCF 138.83 ish mark<BR>
FSK 139.040/138.965 Khz&nbsp;ish , peak dispersion<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The FSK on 135.785 is more rarely heard -think only once before from Shangh=
ai.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
DCF39 sitting back at good signals at s9 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Have a good morning/night - <BR>
<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>

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&gt; From: alan.melia@btinternet.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:54:24 +0100<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: K=
p-4<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi John, Yes that is my reading of things too.....not =
just a "me too" after<BR>&gt; the event :-)) I mailed the Lauries with a si=
milar thought this<BR>&gt; morning....thanks for the observations on the BC=
 stuff that is most useful<BR>&gt; as confirmation.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers=
 de Alan G3NYK<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: =
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R>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Laurence,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Alan can =
step in and correct me, but I don't think that the recent<BR>&gt; &gt; coro=
nal hole events have amounted to much in terms of propagation at 136<BR>&gt=
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I mentioned yesterday that after retuning my vertical I had a 
diabolical swr at the shack end. That turned out to be because the pa 
was going unstable when it saw a 50 ohm load!!!

I have now done a few changes to the pa to hopefully get round this 
problem. The T50-61 toroid I had used for the pa output coupling 
transformer wasn't really up to the job and was getting hot. I have 
replaced that with a 26mm 3C85 toroid from my 136 stock and 
reconfigured it to be an isolating transformer which gets rid of a 
nasty series coupling capacitor. I have also done a couple of changes 
with the decoupling. My website has the updated circuit. It now seems 
to be stable and also putting out a bit more umpth.

My antenna tuning exercise yesterday has certainly got it one 
frequency (maybe a little on the low side as it is 50 ohm resistive 
at 501kHz and rises to 67.8ohms slightly reactive at 504kHz). 
Excellent SWR!

It obviously has worked as I have just had a (slightly scratchy) chat 
with G3UNT followed by a nice QSO with Mike G3KZU in Oxford. Brian 
has never heard me before!

73 Dave G3YMC

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From: "Victor van Kooten" <vvkooten@wanadoo.nl>
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Still a steady signal Dave 

73
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Mni tks Mal - was hoping it was daytime!
73, Rog.
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gw3UEP=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:56 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 500 condx
  Rog hrd u at abt 2200z on beacon mode abtr 559
  Condx have been vy good lately but today signals seem down again, the =
flood plains are disappearing, no more sea path.

  73 mal/g3kev

  =20
  Mal, Wonder what time you hrd me pls?  My ERP is now +6dB on previous =
level since March.
  Rog
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:24 PM
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  Hi All
  Condx on 500 have been above average recently and I could hear GW3UEP, =
who I
  normally do not hear, also G0NBD for the first time.
  The vy wet WX must be enhancing our earthing systems and contributing =
to
  propagated signals, similar to a sea path.
  When it all dries up it will be back to normal.
  73 de Mal/G3KEV


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>73, Rog.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net =
href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">hamilton mal</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: 500 condx</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3D500kcs@uku.co.uk =
href=3D"mailto:500kcs@uku.co.uk">Gw3UEP</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 =
11:56=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: 500 =
condx</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rog hrd u at abt 2200z on beacon mode =
abtr=20
  559</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Condx have been =
vy&nbsp;good&nbsp;lately but=20
  today signals&nbsp;seem down again, the flood plains are disappearing, =
no more=20
  sea path.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mal, Wonder what time you hrd me =
pls?&nbsp; My=20
  ERP is now +6dB on previous level since March.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dg3kev.ham@virgin.net =
href=3D"mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">hamilton mal</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:24 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: 500 condx</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi All<BR>Condx on 500 have been above average recently =
and I=20
  could hear GW3UEP, who I<BR>normally do not hear, also G0NBD for the =
first=20
  time.<BR>The vy wet WX must be enhancing our earthing systems and =
contributing=20
  to<BR>propagated signals, similar to a sea path.<BR>When it all dries =
up it=20
  will be back to normal.<BR>73 de =
Mal/G3KEV<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Hi, Gary.

"O" copy now. Are you still running 1 mW, or have you QRO'd?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 20 July 2007 21:37
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: 500 QRP Beacon - report


Hi Dave, LF,

Well I am quite amazed, I was really surprised when I saw it show up on
Dave's (G3YXM)  grabber.
The PA DC input is 2.5 watts (2.5 volts at 1A) the antenna current is about
0.05 A

Distance to you is about 274 kms.

Thanks for your report.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: LF: RE: 500 QRP Beacon - report


> Hi Gary, LF.
>
> I can see your signal...it's only about "T" copy, but it's definitely
> there.
> I'll keep watching and see if it improves as darkness falls.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
> Sent: 20 July 2007 20:46
> To: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
> Subject: LF: 500 QRP Beacon
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
> For curiosity amongst other reasons I am running my beacon for a while on
> 503.600 KHz at QRP level
> ie. 1 mW ERP
>
> Reports will be most welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
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Hi, Rog, LF.

You've got to be within 100Hz of each other so that you both fit on my
"Argo" screen. It doesn't matter too much if you drift into each other, as
it's quite possible to differentiate between the two sets of signals. The
G0MRF beacon on 503.7 is pretty strong at this location, so my preference
would be around 503.8 and above, or more-or-less where you are now on 501.5.

I won't be able to do any more overnight monitoring until Monday night, as I
am going to QSY with my trusty W&G to IO70WJ (Devon) for the week-end, and
will do some listening from there. Perhaps we can fix up something for next
week.

BTW, I'm going to burn a CD of the overnight stuff for Alan. If you want a
copy, let me know.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gw3UEP
  Sent: 26 July 2007 09:30
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Re: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


  Dave/wcb,
  Tks for all info, esp the 6dB comp.
  What freq separation would suit?
  Rog.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave G3WCB
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:48 PM
  Subject: LF: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight run


  Mike, LF.

  Good signals from GW4HXO throughout the night, with a marked drop in
  strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and reversion to daytime signal levels
  therafter. The propagation showed the same sort of pattern as GW3UEPs
  signals, but Mike seems to be consistently stronger by around 6 dB

  Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, and stayed at good
audible
  strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB having a two or three minute
  cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a cliff" after 0350utc, but a
  fairly rapid decrease in signal strength occurred, perhaps as much as 10
dB,
  but I'm guessing.

  Mike's signals have been visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was at
  work :-((], then stopped abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.

  It would be really interesting to run an overnight comparison between
GW4HXO
  and GW3UEP, but at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of the
  band!

  I'm also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the
moment.
  Can't make out his call-sign by ear.

  Night and day comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
  Sent: 24 July 2007 22:56
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  Dave, LF,

  GW4HXO is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz
  bandwidth (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background
  noise level is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.
  (About 50 micro-volts at the RX terminals)

  I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big coil which is
  link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud from nearby
  wiring. A loop would be much quieter.

  I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens to the signal levels
  around dawn.

  73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
  Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


  On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

  > Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
  > fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
  > setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible
  > to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
  > or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

  Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and
  Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not
  much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

  505.15   DI2BE    569
  503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
  503.75   G0MRF      599
  503.65   G4WGT     579
  503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
  502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
  501.5     GW3UEP   329

  (All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when
  tuning CW by ear...).

  I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

  A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

  73 Dave G3YMC

  http://www.davesergeant.com






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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
won't be able to do any more overnight monitoring until Monday night, as =
I am=20
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and will=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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I'm going to burn a CD of the overnight stuff for Alan. If you want a =
copy, let=20
me know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D034241219-26072007><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Dave G3WCB IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Gw3UEP<BR><B>Sent:</B> 26 July 2007 09:30<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: [ 500]Two GW's =

  Testing... GW4HXO overnight run<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Dave/wcb,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tks for all info, esp the 6dB =
comp.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>What freq separation would =
suit?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Rog.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dganymede444@btopenworld.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:48 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: [ 500]Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO overnight=20
  run</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mike, LF.<BR><BR>Good signals from GW4HXO throughout =
the night,=20
  with a marked drop in<BR>strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and =
reversion to=20
  daytime signal levels<BR>therafter. The propagation showed the same =
sort of=20
  pattern as GW3UEPs<BR>signals, but Mike seems to be consistently =
stronger by=20
  around 6 dB<BR><BR>Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, =
and=20
  stayed at good audible<BR>strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB =
having a=20
  two or three minute<BR>cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a =
cliff"=20
  after 0350utc, but a<BR>fairly rapid decrease in signal strength =
occurred,=20
  perhaps as much as 10 dB,<BR>but I'm guessing.<BR><BR>Mike's signals =
have been=20
  visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was at<BR>work :-((], then =
stopped=20
  abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.<BR><BR>It would be really=20
  interesting to run an overnight comparison between GW4HXO<BR>and =
GW3UEP, but=20
  at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of =
the<BR>band!<BR><BR>I'm=20
  also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the=20
  moment.<BR>Can't make out his call-sign by ear.<BR><BR>Night and day=20
  comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB=20
  IO91RM<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
  Behalf Of Dave G3WCB<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 22:56<BR>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
  RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>Dave, =
LF,<BR><BR>GW4HXO=20
  is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 =
Khz<BR>bandwidth=20
  (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background<BR>noise =
level=20
  is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.<BR>(About =
50=20
  micro-volts at the RX terminals)<BR><BR>I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at =
6m,=20
  tuned with a big coil which is<BR>link-coupled to the RX. It does pick =
up a=20
  lot of SMPSU crud from nearby<BR>wiring. A loop would be much=20
  quieter.<BR><BR>I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens =
to the=20
  signal levels<BR>around dawn.<BR><BR>73, Dave G3WCB=20
  IO91RM<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</A><BR>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On=20
  Behalf Of Dave Sergeant<BR>Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28<BR>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
  Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO<BR><BR><BR>On 24 Jul 2007 =
at 20:58,=20
  Dave G3WCB wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Well.......I'm seeing something on =
503.812, and=20
  I might be hearing<BR>&gt; fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a =
SPM-30 on the=20
  24Hz bandwidth<BR>&gt; setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- =
Would it=20
  be possible<BR>&gt; to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier =
after each=20
  call-sign,<BR>&gt; or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?<BR><BR>Still =
amazed at=20
  the difference in reception between Bracknell and<BR>Iver (the whole =
of about=20
  10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not<BR>much different from midday =
here)=20
  with my two ears.....<BR><BR>505.15&nbsp;&nbsp; =
DI2BE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  569<BR>503.8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GW4HXO&nbsp;&nbsp; 559, very =
consistent=20
  all day<BR>503.75&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  599<BR>503.65&nbsp;&nbsp; G4WGT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  579<BR>503.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GI4PDE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; traces, =
was=20
  solid earlier<BR>502.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3XIZ in QSO with=20
  G3UNT&nbsp;&nbsp; both 599<BR>501.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
GW3UEP&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  329<BR><BR>(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz =
accuracy=20
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under=20
  'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter<BR><BR>A couple of CQs from here earlier =
went=20
  unanswered...<BR><BR>73 Dave G3YMC<BR><BR><A=20
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On 1 Jul 2007 at 5:02, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> 
> I have taken to tuning the band low to high and high to low after
> calling  CQ. (Where have I heard that before?).
>  
> Incidentally how is your set up going? I've not heard you on for a
> week or  two maybe more. Any changes to your ground system and
> vertical to improve  matters?
> 
> 73
> 
> Colin G3VTT

Thanks for the QSO this afternoon Colin, we are getting there, 
admittedly a little slowly. I suppose this answers your last 
question, I have certainly been around and putting out the odd CQ 
call etc, but have to some extent been diverted by other things - 
sporadic E openings on 10m (they will soon be gone..), chasing DX 
(what little there is of it) on the other bands, and not least a bit 
in the way of TV and VCRs which needed repair - you can't turn away 
jobs which bring in the pennies!!

But more importantly over the past few days I have been exploring 
impedance measurement techniques on 500kHz, mainly with Peter G3LDOs 
3-meter method. I seem to have got that perfected now and can do 
reliable and repeatable impedance measurements on my vertical from 
the shack. It told me that it actually resonated at 492kHz (not good) 
and also that I have too many turns on my variometer - it is 
currently tuned to 499kHz. I had overestimated my terrible earth loss 
resistance - it is not 350 ohms which I had thought at first, rather 
a slightly better 150 ohms! I could even see it dropped slightly 
after yesterday's rain... I hope to document this on my website in 
due course.

I now need to readjust the turns ratio on my matching transformer (at 
the vertical base) so I have 50 ohms there instead of 22 and which 
will give a proper 50 ohms at the shack end, when hopefully the TX 
will produce a bit more umpth into it.

I still need to reduce the earth losses in due course, at least I now 
have a scientific way of actually measuring them and will be able to 
see the effects of any changes.

As for tuning high to low when we have only 3kHz to tune it is no 
great problem. I use the twin vfo's on the K2 - I monitor my own 
transmission on one VFO for sidetone and switch to the other one to 
tune. I wondered whether I should have netted on to you, maybe it 
would have confused you, but occupying two frequencies does seem 
slightly anti-sociable. I called CQ in the middle of the band to 
avoid Tom G3OLB who was in QSO around 501.5 (possibly with GW4HXO?). 
If it gets any busier I guess we will need bandplans...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi Dave YMC,
 
I think you will find the problems lies in Adrian's ground system and short  
vertical portion of his wire as do many of these 'weaker' stations. I am  not 
so sure an R1155 is the sort of inhaler one should be using but he seems to  
be happy with it.
 
I have taken to tuning the band low to high and high to low after calling  
CQ. (Where have I heard that before?).
 
There is nothing to be heard from the boys down West, not a rustle in the  
noise even.
 
Apparently I've been heard in Solva so I'll stick to the loaded tee  although 
I had plans to rearrange it and make it a loaded 'L' in an effort to  work 
Adrian.
 
Incidentally how is your set up going? I've not heard you on for a week or  
two maybe more. Any changes to your ground system and vertical to improve  
matters?
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT
 n a message dated 01/07/2007 06:22:31 GMT Standard Time,  
dave@davesergeant.com writes:

On 30  Jun 2007 at 23:36, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:

> Please keep an ear  open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.
> He's crystal controlled around 502 kHz  and calls CQ for ages without
> getting many replies.
> 
>  Several stations QSO'd over the top of him today, neither side hearing
>  the other. He's very keen but getting a bit dispondent so if possible
>  give him a contact.

I have given Adrian calls in the past and he has  obviously not heard 
me (and Bracknell to Swindon is not that far). I have  also many times 
heard others having QSOs on top of him (G3VTT and G3XAQ  were having a 
ragchew on top last night). Adrian is a good 589 signal  here.

Maybe he also needs to look at his receiver, as do some others.  It 
also shows the pitfalls of being crystal controlled on a narrow  band.

73 Dave  G3YMC

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Many thanks Jim and Dave,

I'll QSP comments on to Adrian as he is not on the reflector but phones me occasionally.
He is in fact building a small active receiving loop so should improve his RX capabilities.

This seems a most strange band.
Jim and I have QTH's which are quite close yet he gives G3AQC better reports than I do and I receive G4GDR better than he does - odd !

73 Chris G3XIZ

Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote: On 30 Jun 2007 at 23:36, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:

> Please keep an ear open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.
> He's crystal controlled around 502 kHz and calls CQ for ages without
> getting many replies.
> 
> Several stations QSO'd over the top of him today, neither side hearing
> the other. He's very keen but getting a bit dispondent so if possible
> give him a contact.

I have given Adrian calls in the past and he has obviously not heard 
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heard others having QSOs on top of him (G3VTT and G3XAQ were having a 
ragchew on top last night). Adrian is a good 589 signal here.

Maybe he also needs to look at his receiver, as do some others. It 
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Many thanks Jim and Dave,<br><br>I'll QSP comments on to Adrian as he is not on the reflector but phones me occasionally.<br>He is in fact building a small active receiving loop so should improve his RX capabilities.<br><br>This seems a most strange band.<br>Jim and I have QTH's which are quite close yet he gives G3AQC better reports than I do and I receive G4GDR better than he does - odd !<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>Dave Sergeant &lt;dave@davesergeant.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On 30 Jun 2007 at 23:36, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:<br><br>&gt; Please keep an ear open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.<br>&gt; He's crystal controlled around 502 kHz and calls CQ for ages without<br>&gt; getting many replies.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Several stations QSO'd over the top of him today, neither side hearing<br>&gt; the other. He's very keen but getting a bit dispondent so if
 possible<br>&gt; give him a contact.<br><br>I have given Adrian calls in the past and he has obviously not heard <br>me (and Bracknell to Swindon is not that far). I have also many times <br>heard others having QSOs on top of him (G3VTT and G3XAQ were having a <br>ragchew on top last night). Adrian is a good 589 signal here.<br><br>Maybe he also needs to look at his receiver, as do some others. It <br>also shows the pitfalls of being crystal controlled on a narrow band.<br><br>73 Dave G3YMC<br><br>http://www.davesergeant.com<br><br><br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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On 30 Jun 2007 at 23:36, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote:

> Please keep an ear open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.
> He's crystal controlled around 502 kHz and calls CQ for ages without
> getting many replies.
> 
> Several stations QSO'd over the top of him today, neither side hearing
> the other. He's very keen but getting a bit dispondent so if possible
> give him a contact.

I have given Adrian calls in the past and he has obviously not heard 
me (and Bracknell to Swindon is not that far). I have also many times 
heard others having QSOs on top of him (G3VTT and G3XAQ were having a 
ragchew on top last night). Adrian is a good 589 signal here.

Maybe he also needs to look at his receiver, as do some others. It 
also shows the pitfalls of being crystal controlled on a narrow band.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Please keep an ear open for Adrian G4GDR, Swindon.
He's crystal controlled around 502 kHz and calls CQ for ages without getting many replies.

Several stations QSO'd over the top of him today, neither side hearing the other.
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Hi Wolf!
I am using home made construction SDR (I + Q signals), with local
oscilator 1.84MHz and program WinRad 1.25, from I2PHD. Signal from this
configuration is linked to  second sound card in my PC, which support
program  Spectrum Lab. This program is the best I have ever had; I am
glad I can write this my  view to you!
Yes, I use selective pream before SDR. I test SDR only shortly, but
results seem be very encouraging. My comparative RX is EKD315.

73

Lubos, OK2BVG

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Hi Lubos,

It isn't, just by chance, based on the SDR-IQ or SDR-14 board ? ;-) I=20
have just added support for that little box in my program. But unlike=20
you, I didn't receive anything (from UK) with it yet ... guess I must=20
move to a quieter location, and / or build a selective preamp for the MF

band ...

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

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Hi Lubos,

It isn't, just by chance, based on the SDR-IQ or SDR-14 board ? ;-) I 
have just added support for that little box in my program. But unlike 
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move to a quieter location, and / or build a selective preamp for the MF 
band ...

73,
  Wolf DL4YHF .


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Hi all!
I had built small SDRadio for 500kHz and I started testing of it. This
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Dear Gary, LF Group,

hearing G4WGT at RST 339 level here at the moment on about 503.6kHz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Wolf,

Thanks for the info.

Cheers

Gary - G4WGT

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
>> Hi LF,
>>
>> My thanks to Wolf - DL4YHF, Graham - G0NBD & John - GM4SLV for reports.
>>
>> Wolf, is that the filter you spoke of in the latest SpecLab ??
>>
> Hi Gary,
> rrr - the audio filter is implemented in SpecLab, but it's been there 
> since quite a long time -  I just never used it to listen to morse code 
> with such a low bandwidth myself. It is actually the "FFT-based filter", 
> which can also be used with real signals (i.e. not complex) from the 
> soundcard.
> The configuration for the SDR-IQ is in the file "SDR-IQ_narrow_RX.usr", 
> which will be included in the next release. But with some dozen 
> mouseclicks, that configuration can be created for the soundcard input, 
> too.
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf .
>
>
> 



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Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> Hi LF,
>
> My thanks to Wolf - DL4YHF, Graham - G0NBD & John - GM4SLV for reports.
>
> Wolf, is that the filter you spoke of in the latest SpecLab ??
>
Hi Gary,
rrr - the audio filter is implemented in SpecLab, but it's been there 
since quite a long time -  I just never used it to listen to morse code 
with such a low bandwidth myself. It is actually the "FFT-based filter", 
which can also be used with real signals (i.e. not complex) from the 
soundcard.
The configuration for the SDR-IQ is in the file "SDR-IQ_narrow_RX.usr", 
which will be included in the next release. But with some dozen 
mouseclicks, that configuration can be created for the soundcard input, too.

Cheers,
  Wolf .



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Hi LF,

My thanks to Wolf - DL4YHF, Graham - G0NBD & John - GM4SLV for reports.

Wolf, is that the filter you spoke of in the latest SpecLab ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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> .. with 12 Hz audio filter bandwidth. Screenshot attached (taken 21:30 
> UTC).
>
> 73,
>  Wolf DL4YHF .
> 



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Dear John, LF Group,

No luck here either on 503.4kHz. I didn't know how long you planned to
operate, so I left Spectrum Lab monitoring through the night; G0MRF's beacon
was a good signal (still going now), but nil from the Shetlands this time.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hi, John, LF.

Nothing last night, although I was listening and watching until 23:30 utc.
Better luck next time!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:37:52 +0100
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> Nothing yet....
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>

Thanks Dave.

It's still daylight up here - just come in from having a barbecue tea in
the garden - perhaps in another hour or so when it gets a bit darker....

Cheers,

John





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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:37:52 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Nothing yet....
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 

Thanks Dave. 

It's still daylight up here - just come in from having a barbecue tea in
the garden - perhaps in another hour or so when it gets a bit darker....

Cheers,

John


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Nothing yet....

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hello LF,

I'm just about to start my QRSS-3 beacon on 503.4 for the next hour or
so while I wait for it to get dark.

I'd welcome any reports/screengrabs. Last weekend showed that signals
started to become good & stable after 11pm local time so by then it
might be possible to have a few CW QSOs.

Regards,

John GM4SLV
  

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Hi, Gary,

Your beacon clearly audible here above the static. I don't remember being
able to copy your signal by ear previously. Obviously the new roof on the
garage has done the trick!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi All,

Finally had the garage roof replaced (had to employ a different roofer due
to false & broken promises).

I am currently testing re-erected & hopefully improved antenna in my small
garden. Consists of 12 mtrs vertical, elevated inductance & small top
capacity hat.

503.600 KHz, sending G4WGT (qrss03), 6wpm CW ID, 5 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp






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Zitat von ColePe@aol.com:

> Received in Plymouth IO70WJ circa 22:00 GMT.
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> 73
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> Peter G3JFS
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Hi Peter,
thanks for the report. should there be an attachment (screenshot)?
regards
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Tks John.
72, Rog.

BTW,  it's H24, currently [apart from qso's & ant work].

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Audible here in Shetland at around 439 and lots of static

Also screenshot attached

Cheers,
John

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:29:27 +0100
"Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rog, LF,
> 
> The GW3UEP beacon 501,095 kHz is peaking here 539, with long, slow
> QSB, and some static crashes.
> 
> Screenshot attached.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 

Audible here in Shetland at around 439 and lots of static

Also screenshot attached

Cheers,
John

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Hi, Rog, LF,

The GW3UEP beacon 501,095 kHz is peaking here 539, with long, slow QSB, and
some static crashes.

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On 2 Jul 2007 at 19:47, Alan Melia wrote:

> On the point of "QRM" I am receiving a very weak signal on 502.5. I
> know that is where Adrian G4GDR transmits but this is on almost
> continuously. I thought I had identified it as Adrian when Jim worked
> him the other day as it seemed to go off when Jim was transmitting. I
> am now wondering if that was just due to the big signal I get from
> Jim. I need averaging to see it but if looks like it could be morse
> and it "pings up" occasionally. I dont know whether Adrian does call a
> lot ...because he has a valve rig I guess he doesnt beacon and is
> probably not that stable (??).

I get various weak carriers from time to time in the band, which are 
not stable and drift. I have always assumed these are birdies coming 
out of my pc/router as is the somewhat stronger burble I get on 
500.00 which goes off when I turn the pc off. I suspect this is what 
you are hearing Alan. Adrian put out a reasonably stable signal when 
he is on, he doesn't beacon, rather more lots of CQs.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi Gary. I dont think that unless you have a big loop or you have a very
local BC station that you will see any improvement for shielding the loop.
In fact it might even be worse, due to the reduction in Q that comes with
the extra stray capacitance. The side of the loop is small with respect to a
wavelength so the amount of "electric" field pick-up will be so small as to
make the contribution negligable. It is different with an HF loop.

On the point about RTE yes it is just across the water from you. It might be
worth seeing if there is any improvement by trapping (or notching) the
fundamental. I would not imagine there is with a tuned loop. If they go DRM
I guess that we will get a general increase in noise level across the band.
It might be worth making some measurements because although we only have
experimental permits BC stations are supposed to radiate clean
transmissions. It would not be good for DRM to be perceived to radiate muck
on harmonics.

On the point of "QRM" I am receiving a very weak signal on 502.5. I know
that is where Adrian G4GDR transmits but this is on almost continuously. I
thought I had identified it as Adrian when Jim worked him the other day as
it seemed to go off when Jim was transmitting. I am now wondering if that
was just due to the big signal I get from Jim. I need averaging to see it
but if looks like it could be morse and it "pings up" occasionally. I dont
know whether Adrian does call a lot ...because he has a valve rig I guess he
doesnt beacon and is probably not that stable (??).

 Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 02 July 2007 18:19
Subject: LF: 500 - Signal on 504 KHz


> Hi All,
>
> During my monitoring of 500 KHz I have almost always seen a line on
SpecLab
> at 504.0 KHz. Whilst attempting to improve a shielded loop for 500 KHz I
> have been receiving the signal on 504.0 KHz stronger & stronger with
> accompanying hetrodyne. After todays changes to my loop the signal has
> become so strong that I now hear garbled audio & SpecLab is showing audio
> sidebands (see capture attached). I notice that there is a line at the
same
> frequency on the Bimingham Grabber some of the time. I first thought it
was
> some product of mixing strong signals in the MF range. I decided to try to
> work it out & realised that in fact it is the second harmonic of RTE Radio
1
> on 252 KHz. I have studied the uninteligable audio pattern & it does
relate
> to  that signal.
>
> I must admit that I don't know if it due to improvements or some other
quirk
> of my loop or just the fact that the filtering at RTE Radio 1 is poor.
> Although this signal has got stronger with changes to my loop there
doesn't
> appear to be the same improvement with normal 500 KHz signals.
>
> Perhaps someone can shed some light on this for me.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>



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Hi Laurie,

what about 136316 - 136320 Hz. Markus, DF6NM has a grabber running of
this frequency range.

73
Hartmut


> Sorry Harmut if my beacon signals interfered with your reception last night.
> Quite happy to QSY, any suggestions re suitable frequency ?

> 73 Laurie.



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Thanks for the report Gary.

I was monitoring using 'Argo' with all gains quite high and spinning my receive loop but could see no other stations.

G3VTT called CQ for a time on straight CW but didn't get any takers.
I'd already worked Colin earlier so went QRT while he called.

Looking forward to hearing (or seeing) sigs from your new, improved aerial system.
Hope the rain holds off - Hi !

73 Chris G3XIZ

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Hi Chris,

I am seeing you using SpecLab & PA0RDT mini-whip at 7 mtrs but not hearing 
any audio from your signal.

Is that another station just above you at 503.500 KHz ??

Still have no Tx antenna yet but the roofer is comming to replace my garage 
roof on saturday (weather is forecast reasonable for weekend).

I will soon be able to re-erect the LF/MF 12 mtr vertical this time with a 
1.5 x 1.5 mtr square top load & 375 uH lightweight elevated inductance 
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73

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Thanks for the report Gary.<br><br>I was monitoring using 'Argo' with all gains quite high and spinning my receive loop but could see no other stations.<br><br>G3VTT called CQ for a time on straight CW but didn't get any takers.<br>I'd already worked Colin earlier so went QRT while he called.<br><br>Looking forward to hearing (or seeing) sigs from your new, improved aerial system.<br>Hope the rain holds off - Hi !<br><br>73 Chris G3XIZ<br><br><b><i>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Hi Chris,<br><br>I am seeing you using SpecLab &amp; PA0RDT mini-whip at 7 mtrs but not hearing <br>any audio from your signal.<br><br>Is that another station just above you at 503.500 KHz ??<br><br>Still have no Tx antenna yet but the roofer is comming to replace my garage <br>roof on saturday (weather is forecast reasonable for weekend).<br><br>I will soon be
 able to re-erect the LF/MF 12 mtr vertical this time with a <br>1.5 x 1.5 mtr square top load &amp; 375 uH lightweight elevated inductance <br>hopefully for improved performance.<br><br>73<br><br>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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I am seeing you using SpecLab & PA0RDT mini-whip at 7 mtrs but not hearing 
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Is that another station just above you at 503.500 KHz ??

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I will soon be able to re-erect the LF/MF 12 mtr vertical this time with a 
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Mike, LF.

Good signals from GW4HXO throughout the night, with a marked drop in
strength between 0350 and 0420 utc, and reversion to daytime signal levels
therafter. The propagation showed the same sort of pattern as GW3UEPs
signals, but Mike seems to be consistently stronger by around 6 dB

Mike's signals reached a sort of peak at 2330utc, and stayed at good audible
strength until 0350 utc, with moderate QSB having a two or three minute
cycle. His signals didn't exatctly "fall off a cliff" after 0350utc, but a
fairly rapid decrease in signal strength occurred, perhaps as much as 10 dB,
but I'm guessing.

Mike's signals have been visible all morning [couldn't listen - I was at
work :-((], then stopped abruptly at about 1410 utc this afternoon.

It would be really interesting to run an overnight comparison between GW4HXO
and GW3UEP, but at the moment, they're beaconing at opposite ends of the
band!

I'm also seeing what I assume to be Finbar clearly on 503.792 at the moment.
Can't make out his call-sign by ear.

Night and day comparison screenshots of GW4HXO attached.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
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Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


Dave, LF,

GW4HXO is quite a bit stronger now, and clearly audible in a 1.74 Khz
bandwidth (Wierd SPM-30 feature) I'd give him 439 by ear. My background
noise level is sitting at -74 dBm, and Mike is a dB or two above that.
(About 50 micro-volts at the RX terminals)

I'm using a 20m long "Tee" at 6m, tuned with a big coil which is
link-coupled to the RX. It does pick up a lot of SMPSU crud from nearby
wiring. A loop would be much quieter.

I'll leave ARGO running overnight to see what happens to the signal levels
around dawn.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 24 July 2007 21:28
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... GW4HXO


On 24 Jul 2007 at 20:58, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Well.......I'm seeing something on 503.812, and I might be hearing
> fragments of a call-sign. I'm using a SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth
> setting, and the callsign is a bit too fast.-- Would it be possible
> to insert a couple of seconds of blank carrier after each call-sign,
> or alternatively QRS to 5 or 6 WPM?

Still amazed at the difference in reception between Bracknell and
Iver (the whole of about 10 miles...). Currently hearing (and not
much different from midday here) with my two ears.....

505.15   DI2BE    569
503.8     GW4HXO   559, very consistent all day
503.75   G0MRF      599
503.65   G4WGT     579
503.2     GI4PDE    traces, was solid earlier
502.2     G3XIZ in QSO with G3UNT   both 599
501.5     GW3UEP   329

(All frequencies approximate, difficult to read to 10Hz accuracy when
tuning CW by ear...).

I can even hear 'HXO and 'WGT under 'MRF's psk in my 400Hz filter

A couple of CQs from here earlier went unanswered...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com






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Hi Jim see my recent reply to Laurence re Ankara. Rugby Loron is due to
cease at the end of July and the equipment shipped up to Anthorn and
installed there.to be operational bt October.(see Dave's web site) So maybe
its just waterlogged !!....slight change in the ground loss?

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 05 July 2007 00:58
Subject: LF: Re: fsk - Loran


> Dear Laurence, LF Group,
>
> It is visible here about 30dB below the DCF39 "carrier" at the moment. It
Is
> fading in a DX-like way.As far as I can tell, it seems to be east of here.
I
> have sometimes seen a continuous carrier around 138.96k, but I have not
seen
> the modulation before.
>
> BTW - Is the Rugby Loran QRT ? - seems to be less clatter here than
normal.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
> To: <lowfer@lwca.org>; <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:50 PM
> Subject: LF: fsk
>
>
> > DCF39 getting battered by qrn, but Im now getting another new fsk signal
> on
> > mark/space 139.040 138.962 - it has a slow qsb signature similar to
dcf39
> so
> > looks real enough. Wonder if anyone else is seeing it? Its about the
same
> > strength as dcf39/budapest ie about S7 at the moment..I cant find
another
> > signal that it may be a product with at this time,
> >
> >
> >
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Dear LF Group,

Just amusing myself with the 136kHz modified SoftRock, listening to the
Hungarian "DCF" station on 135.4kHz on lower sideband - the Luxemborg effect
is very strong this evening and the sidebands appear to come mainly from DLF
on 153kHz. If I could speak German, I could probably follow the
conversation, although it  has lost a lot of the HF as is typical. There is
a most peculiar echoing effect which is very interesting to listen to. I
wonder how the time delay could originate? (there is the time delay
associated with the DSP, but I am hearing the echo on the Hungarian signal
by itself)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi all, There is a new and fairly active sun-spot #963 which has begun to
traverse the Solar disc in the last couple of days. The NOAA solar flux
plots show this is quite active and the background X-ray levels have
increased a lot from the quiet conditions we have mostly seen over the last
few months. This kind of activity would shake the daytime paths up a little
on 136khz and possible give an increase in signal of up to 8 to 10 dB at
mid-day. I am not sure what the effect will be on 500kHz with the generally
shorter paths. It is possible that levels of absorption may increase and
signals be poorer than normal.

I am interested in collecting any comments comparing conditions in the next
10 to 14 days with say the last month. I do not have any beacon paths on
500kHz to monitor so I am a bit light on data. The major problem is that the
increased level of T-storms recently may increase the noise level making
signals seem weaker even in day-time

Thanks
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
LF Prop. report at
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GW3UEP,
 
you are just audible on peaks in Plymouth. Where are you  located?
 
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John,

I'm getting a weak trace on 502.497, slightly LF of your nominal frequency.
Too much noise to make out a callsign or anything. Are you still
transmitting or have given up for the night?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (2240utc)

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:52:05 EDT
G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Nothing down here in the south John although the static is fierce.
> Bad storms tonight coming up from France. Will keep and ear open. I
> transmit rock bound on 502.2 but always tune the band. GL
>
> 73
>
> Colin G3VTT


Thanks for listening Colin. Glad (if that's the right word) that your
suffering from static too, shows it's not somehting I've changed here.
The band was quiet earlier. I heard very strong sigs from G3KEV, but
hadn't got the antenna sorted and had lots of other stuff to do first.

Got it roughly tuned at 2215 BST (the benefits of long days up here in
summer) and found the band full of noise (as well as XYL's QRM
generating goggelbox).

Currently sneding QRSS-3 on 502.5 since with state of the band I think
I might struggle to work CW, but a report of my QRSS from anywhere
would at least be a start!

John






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Hi alan

Sri I have no loop only a pa3fny whip and 

A longe wire.17m hor and 7 vert.

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Anybody knows when/if the next transmission is scheduled for?
Unfortunately this morning I had to be away from my house, so I could not receive the SAQ signal.

Thanks.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Dear LF Group,

The SAQ broadcast went ahead as scheduled:

0837utc - starting up; "vvv de SAQ"
0900utc - message celebrating 300th anniversary of birth of biologist Carl
Linaeus
0910utc - Shut down

A 599 signal here as usual in spite of the QRN, using the RA1792 and loop
antenna; also the "electromechanical RX" was fired up successfully once
again

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Zitat von Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net>:

> Hello all,
>
> SM6BHZ, on 505100, and DI2BE, on 505120 audible here their QRSS3 signals.
> Audible  CW beacon of GW3UEP as well, on 501500.
>
> 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti

Hola Jose,
gracias por report.
vy 73 de Uwe/dj8wx/di2be/jo43sv



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Hello all,

SM6BHZ, on 505100, and DI2BE, on 505120 audible here their QRSS3 =
signals.
Audible  CW beacon of GW3UEP as well, on 501500.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti
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Dear all.

I've just heard from Harry G3MFW who is near St Austell in Cornwall. He is
almost ready to come on 136kHz using a Decca TX so we should hear him OK. He
also has some of those lovely Decca Litz-wire loading coils for disposal.
They are wound with 729 strand Litz in a basket weave pattern on perspex
framework and each coil has a variometer in the centre driven by Tufnol
gears. A similar coil is shown in the RSGB Low Frequency Experimenter's
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He would like them to go to a good home for a nominal sum. Any one
interested can contact me or phone Harry on 01726 73608

I'm resisting the temptation to buy more stuff!

Dave.

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Dear all.<br><br>I&#39;ve just heard from Harry G3MFW who is near St Austell in Cornwall. He is almost ready to come on 136kHz using a Decca TX so we should hear him OK. He also has some of those lovely Decca Litz-wire loading coils for disposal. They are wound with 729 strand Litz in a basket weave pattern on perspex framework and each coil has a variometer in the centre driven by Tufnol gears. A similar coil is shown in the RSGB Low Frequency Experimenter&#39;s Handbook on page 64.
<br>He would like them to go to a good home for a nominal sum. Any one interested can contact me or phone Harry on 01726 73608<br><br>I&#39;m resisting the temptation to buy more stuff!<br><br>Dave.<br clear="all"><br>-- 
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Henny and Hartmut for reports over the last two 
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Hello LFers !

Last night I copy :

WD2XES 01:00 => 04:00 (good period 01:45 => 03:00)

the captures of night are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/

73 Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


































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lets try to get the right jpeg attached (that one was from qrp sigs from 10=
.140 this morning) - heres the real one! Time for coffee=20
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Laurence


From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: F=
ri, 27 Jul 2007 16:09:48 -0800Subject: LF: 137 overnight


Thanks for the sigs Laurie - nothing ident wise seen but there were some bl=
urs not seen elsewhere on the screen(s)(see attached).  Long haul hasn't be=
en so good over the last two nights, your early evenins; and as an example =
last night dcf39 peaked some 16dB below the better times of this week. Howe=
ver when looking back at our KL7/G3AQC reception data,  both the signal and=
 s/n from Eu has been better from here than that fateful night, so bodes we=
ll as we move forward into longer nightime periods. Appreciate signals any =
any evening you can manage. I had a second screen and grabber on 505.08 to =
505.123 but nothing seen there last night. Laurence 9V1 LF


Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:28:54 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 AgainLaurence,Fixed ant. so w=
ill transmit again tonightstart 20:00utc freq 137.699. QRSS6073 Laurie

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<body>lets try to get the right jpeg attached (that one was from qrp sigs f=
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&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR=
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Thanks for the sigs Laurie - nothing ident wise&nbsp;seen but there were so=
me blurs not seen elsewhere on the screen(s)(see attached).<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&n=
bsp;Long haul hasn't been so good over the last two nights, your early even=
ins;&nbsp;and as an example last night dcf39 peaked some 16dB below the bet=
ter times of this week. However when looking back at our KL7/G3AQC receptio=
n data,&nbsp; both the signal and s/n from Eu&nbsp;has been better from her=
e than that fateful night, so bodes well as we move forward into longer nig=
htime periods.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Appreciate signals any any evening you can mana=
ge.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I had a second screen and grabber on 505.08 to 505.123 but=
 nothing seen there last night.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><BR><BR><BR=
><BR>
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:28:54 +0100<BR>From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.co=
m<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Subject: LF: 137 Again<BR><BR>Laur=
ence,<BR>Fixed ant. so will transmit again tonight<BR>start 20:00utc freq 1=
37.699. QRSS60<BR>73 Laurie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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ce! <A href=3D"http://maps.live.com/?wip=3D69&amp;FORM=3DMGAC01" target=3D_=
blank>Find it!</A> </BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />Missed the show?=A0 Watch video=
s of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. <a href=3D'http://liveearth.msn.com' ta=
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Thanks for the sigs Laurie - nothing ident wise seen but there were some bl=
urs not seen elsewhere on the screen(s)(see attached).
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 Long haul hasn't been so good over the last two nights, your early evenins=
; and as an example last night dcf39 peaked some 16dB below the better time=
s of this week. However when looking back at our KL7/G3AQC reception data, =
 both the signal and s/n from Eu has been better from here than that fatefu=
l night, so bodes well as we move forward into longer nightime periods.
=20
Appreciate signals any any evening you can manage.
=20
I had a second screen and grabber on 505.08 to 505.123 but nothing seen the=
re last night.
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Laurence 9V1 LF


Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:28:54 +0100From: laurie.mayhead@googlemail.comTo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: 137 AgainLaurence,Fixed ant. so w=
ill transmit again tonightstart 20:00utc freq 137.699. QRSS6073 Laurie
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<body>Thanks for the sigs Laurie - nothing ident wise&nbsp;seen but there w=
ere some blurs not seen elsewhere on the screen(s)(see attached).<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Long haul hasn't been so good over the last two nights, your early ev=
enins;&nbsp;and as an example last night dcf39 peaked some 16dB below the b=
etter times of this week. However when looking back at our KL7/G3AQC recept=
ion data,&nbsp; both the signal and s/n from Eu&nbsp;has been better from h=
ere than that fateful night, so bodes well as we move forward into longer n=
ightime periods.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Appreciate signals any any evening you can manage.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I had a second screen and grabber on 505.08 to 505.123 but nothing seen the=
re last night.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence 9V1 LF<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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J.B.,

A look at the weather radar showed that it must be pretty noisy up there 
tonight. Lots of storms in New York. Thanks for the report!

John A.

J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
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> I recalled just before heading off to bed that I'd started Wolf up
> to try a capture of you.  As you can see, I got it alright, but it
> took a while to get a lock:



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Hi John,

I recalled just before heading off to bed that I'd started Wolf up
to try a capture of you.  As you can see, I got it alright, but it
took a while to get a lock:

2007-07-27 22:52:45 >WOLF10  -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.161 a:-0.9 dp: 91.6 ci:14 cj: 80 IAEOI/9TN0W.2VZ ?
t:  48 f: 0.942 a: 1.0 dp: 91.6 ci:12 cj:313 5ZZHTO???L3Z7A* ?
t:  96 f:-0.020 a:-0.6 dp: 86.8 ci: 5 cj:301 GLGNKSR.5ENH*UN ?
t: 192 f:-0.957 pm:38.70 jm:681 q:-12.8 -7.0 R*DZ26DX6BV1AMQ ?
t: 288 f: 0.850 pm:57.13 jm:120 q:-11.4 -6.0 YCNO26???6AMOMQ -
t: 384 f: 0.850 pm:58.62 jm:120 q:-11.2 -8.3 GLEE00J9K54IWCN ?
t: 480 f: 0.850 pm:63.85 jm:120 q:-10.4 -8.0 00U2H4ZRJ2OH5ZH ?
t: 576 f: 0.850 pm:68.53 jm:120 q: -9.5 -8.7 Z 89I73H*TCDP4B ?
t: 672 f: 0.850 pm:77.72 jm:120 q: -8.7 -7.7 ???4B2DYR37NQR3 ?
t: 768 f: 0.850 pm:90.39 jm:120 q: -8.2 -9.8 N4C1X.OFX.AVZR4 ?
t: 864 f: 0.537 pm:228.0 jm:596 q: -5.1 -7.7 PKOK9IJEY8V5FFS ?
t: 960 f: 0.537 pm:275.0 jm:596 q: -3.4 -8.2 M3JA5.TXMDLBDF7 ?
t:1056 f: 0.537 pm:397.4 jm:596 q: -1.6 -6.9 XES 28 JUL 2YH1 ?
t:1152 f: 0.537 pm:530.4 jm:596 q: -0.3 -3.7 XES 28 JUL 2007 -
t:1248 f: 0.537 pm:736.5 jm:596 q:  1.2 -1.7 XES 28 JUL 2007 -
t:1344 f: 0.537 pm:858.1 jm:596 q:  2.0 -0.5 XES 28 JUL 2007 -
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t:1536 f: 0.537 pm: 1287 jm:596 q:  3.7  1.8 XES 28 JUL 2007 -
t:1632 f: 0.537 pm: 1394 jm:596 q:  4.1  2.5 XES 28 JUL 2007 -
t:1728 f: 0.537 pm: 1547 jm:596 q:  4.7  3.1 XES 28 JUL 2007 -

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle




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Zitat von James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>:


> We don't know much about propagation on 500kHz yet -
> The DI beacons and SM6BHZ give us some targets, but leave a lot of empty
> gaps in coverage.
>


>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
Dear Jim,
I understand you read or heard DI2BE --
Ive got many reports from over EU but missing yours.

Im very keen on reports (of all kinds).

regards
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Dear all,

I would like to comment these MF propagation statements by my own
experiences down below:

"John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr> schrieb:
> On 05/07/2007 at 18:06 Roelof Bakker wrote:
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> >500 kHz has great potential; a former spark told me that they used to work 
> >PCH at MF from the Straight of Malaysia when HF was not usuable. They used 
> >one KW on a large Shell tanker.

Around 1957, when I had been at sea, the average MF transmitter power on
a cargo ship had been around 200 watts, but the ships had rather
efficient inverted L or Tee aerials from mast to mast. Later on these
large aerials were no longer possible due to a more compact ship design
and the wish not to have wire aerials any longer which need to be
removed for loading or unloading. They were replaced by self supporting
verticals about ten meters high. The efficiency of these new aerials, in
spite of fulfilling the so-called ITU "meter ampere" requirement,
revealed to be considerably lower, however, and in the seventies, after
an international measuring campaign, there had been an ITU decision to
increase the "meter ampere figure" for (these new) MF aerials by a
factor of two, with the consequence that transmitter power had to be
increased by a factor of four, to maintain the minimum range requested
by the international maritime safety treaty. 

Therefore I would regard a MF QSO from the Malakka Strait to PCH
possible with a combination of an old style MF aerial (feasible on a
large tanker, no need to be removed) and the 1 kW power only, but even
then it is hard to believe for me that this should have been a regular
communication mode, especially because of the large land masses in
between. But I shoud add that I have never been in these waters myself.

> And one of my mentors, who used to be a Sparks, told of when he called an Alaskan coast station > on 500 with the standard message saying he was going into port and was answered by a station in > New Zealand.

The Pacific, on the other hand, is entirely difficult. It is the largest
sea area on earth, with only a few islands in between. At night on watch
at 500 kHz, it was quite commom in the north Pacific to hear exotic
calls like ZKN, Niue Radio, or ZKR, Rarotonga Radio from the Cook
Islands in the south, to remember only a few. Ships I have met and
looked up in the ITU list of ship stations quite often were equipped
just with MF, but sailed from Australia and New Zealand up to the US and
Canada (and even Alaska as reported). From an old ITU list of 1959 I can
still recall that the powers of ZKN and ZKR at that time were in the
order of 250 to 300 watts. 

This shows that MF has been quite dependable at night over at least half
the Pacific. On the other hand it is my feeling that just the fact that
the New Zealand Coast station responded to a QTP message of a ship going
into port in Alaska, that receiving this message across the whole
Pacific might have been regarded a special or rare case by the operator
(or that both operators have met before). In general 500 kHz operators
are rather reluctant or conservative in using the key. 500 kHz has been
a watch and distress frequency and not for chatting.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


> 
> John F5VLF
> 
> 
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On 05/07/2007 at 18:06 Roelof Bakker wrote:

[ ... ]

>500 kHz has great potential; a former spark told me that they used to work=
 
>PCH at MF from the Straight of Malaysia when HF was not usuable. They used=
 
>one KW on a large Shell tanker.
And one of my mentors, who used to be a Sparks, told of when he called an=
 Alaskan coast station on 500 with the standard message saying he was going=
 into port and was answered by a station in New Zealand.

John F5VLF





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Hi Roelof, LFers,

Thanks for the tip about the "classaxe" website!  Very neat and
effective.  I have already put it to use to find out data about the
Navtex stations I've been copying on my big 500 kHz. loop.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Dear Roelof, LF Group,

Thanks for sending the link - someone has been busy!

I did some Navtex monitoring myself a while back - I used some decoder
software called SeaTTY which logs all the messages, so you don't have to
watch the screen all night. During winter nights, it was fairly common to
see signals from quite distant stations - eastern USA and Canada, the middle
east, places like Astrakhan and Archangel to the east, so it shows
propagation does exist. The difficulty with using Navtex as a propagation
indicator is that the time slots are each used by a number of stations, so
more local signals are likely to block out the DX ones. You need a bit  of
luck, such as the DX Navtex broadcasting a long series of messages while the
local Navtex only transmits a short series, in order to copy the DX signal.
So there are other factors as well as propagation that determine if a
particular Navtex signal can be received. I guess the same applies to some
extent to NDBs, but it looks like there is a good selection in an eastern
direction that could be quite interesting.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Dear James, LF group,
>
> You wrote: >> We don't know much about propagation on 500kHz yet <<
>
> For a start you might have a look at the following website:
>
> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/index.php
>




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Dear James, LF group,

You wrote: >> We don't know much about propagation on 500kHz yet <<

For a start you might have a look at the following website:

http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/index.php

Select in the "Types" field "NAVTEX" and you will have an overview of recent 
worldwide NAVTEX reception on 490 and 518 kHz.
It might also be interesting to select the type NDB and select e.g the 490 - 
520 kHz frequency range.

500 kHz has great potential; a former spark told me that they used to work 
PCH at MF from the Straight of Malaysia when HF was not usuable. They used 
one KW on a large Shell tanker.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt



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Dear  David, Dave, Alan, LF Group,

My experience is that some stations are restricted to frequencies around
502kHz due to crystal control being used - there is relatively little going
on nearer the band edges. Most of the beacon-type signals I have heard (or
been responsible for...) were within the range 503 - 504kHz, and have not
received much flak. I usually put in a CW identifier in case anyone is
wondering who is "tuning up", but I have never yet had any enquiries from
people not already active on the band. There is some QRM near  the top of
the band from harmonics of the the EI 252kHz broadcast signal that may
affect stations further west, but it is pretty weak at my QTH

Personally I would be happy to see more beacon signals, especially from
further afield. It is very useful to have beacons if you want to investigate
propagation, especially on 500kHz where there are few utility-type signals
that can serve as ad-hoc beacons, and few amateurs actually equipped to
operate on the band. We don't know much about propagation on 500kHz yet -
The DI beacons and SM6BHZ give us some targets, but leave a lot of empty
gaps in coverage.

At the moment, there are few 500kHz stations, and so a lot of the time,
there just are no signals on the band. Maybe one day it will be like a small
part of 40m, but I think it will be a while before we have to worry that
there are too many signals on the band. A beacon means there is some sort of
an amateur radio presence, without making excessive demands on the
operator's time. If you are just starting out on 500k and struggling to set
up a receiving system, it is invaluable to actually have a real signal to
listen for. For those who are not familiiar with QRSS, it is something
potentially new and interesting, and not that hard to find out about.

BTW - reading the "conditions and limitations" part of the new "lifetime"
licence, it says in the section on station identification that the station
must be identified by its callsign, but makes no reference to a CW
identifier, or Morse code at all. So it looks like this requirement has
dissapeared along with mandatory Morse.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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On 5th July Dave Sergeant wrote---
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Remember, 
your QRSS may be down in the noise in distant places, over most of 
the UK it is 599...

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com
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I am afraid it is very unusual for me to hear a 599 signal here and would
respectfully suggest it is also the same for most people outside the South
East.

Regards

Mike GW4HXO.



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In a message dated 05/07/2007 08:04:25 GMT Standard Time, G3vtt@aol.com  
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Hi Dave,
 
I'mm CC on 501.5 and 502. Could beacons be put higher in the band say at  503?
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT



Thanks Colin.
 
All noted. Thank you.
 
I did see a request when the band was first available to keep the top end  
clear for QSOs with the DLs on 505.   But I've never seen any reports  of QSOs 
between those frequencies so perhaps 503+ could be good.
 
73
 
David



   

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On 5 Jul 2007 at 4:03, G3vtt@aol.com wrote:

> Is there a list of frequencies to avoid? Or if you are using a crystal
>  perhaps you could just drop me a line and I'll avoid that spot 
> frequency.  I'll  be mainly putting this on overnight and not in  peak
> daytime hours.

I would suggest it is best to put the 'beacons', especially QRSS 
ones, close the top or bottom band edges allowing a margin for the 
transmit bandwidth  - especially since those using QRSS have rather 
better frequency calibration than those relying on netting audible 
tones. Much as is done on 136. That will leave the rest of the band 
available for QSOs. Remember also that on normal speed CW you do need 
to be a bit away from the band edge to allow for the non zero 
bandwidth of your signal - and I would suggest that Finbar has been 
dangerously close to 501.00 in recent days.

Remember also if you are using QRSS you must send your callsign at 
FREQUENT intervals at normal speed. I constantly get people telling 
me they are hearing people 'tuning up' for hours on end. Remember, 
your QRSS may be down in the noise in distant places, over most of 
the UK it is 599...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi Dave,
 
I'mm CC on 501.5 and 502. Could beacons be put higher in the band say at  503?
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT
 
In a message dated 04/07/2007 23:14:12 GMT Standard Time, G0MRF@aol.com  
writes:

Hello all.
 
After tinkering around for some time I now have a '3 mode beacon'  
constructed and ready for testing. CW - QRS - PSK31 all on a PICchip.
 
I'm concerned about accidentally putting it on a frequency that is  
'occupied' by a station that is operating with crystal control.
 
Is there a list of frequencies to avoid? Or if you are using a crystal  
perhaps you could just drop me a line and I'll avoid that spot  frequency.  I'll  
be mainly putting this on overnight and not in  peak daytime hours.
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 



 



   

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Hello all.
 
After tinkering around for some time I now have a '3 mode beacon'  
constructed and ready for testing. CW - QRS - PSK31 all on a PICchip.
 
I'm concerned about accidentally putting it on a frequency that is  
'occupied' by a station that is operating with crystal control.
 
Is there a list of frequencies to avoid? Or if you are using a crystal  
perhaps you could just drop me a line and I'll avoid that spot frequency.   I'll  
be mainly putting this on overnight and not in peak daytime  hours.
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 



   

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DCF39 was very strong >30dB above noise this morning on a particuarly quiet 
pre dawn day (quiet except for the birds dawn chorus)  here in Singapore. 
When I checked Budapest was in a deep fade but didnt have time to 
correleratedifferences.

No storms for a couple of days and very very quiet on HF.

Happy 4th July to those that celebrate this day. I had the rx on 505.100 
last night but if anyone want to wind up a 137Khz signal Ill take a listen - 
The S/N from DCF39 was much better than I have received 137 Khz Eu in other 
parts of the world so it should be possible...maybe..

Laurence 9V1 LF

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