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Hi Hamilton, LFers,

I'll be watching for any TA activity coming our way tonite,
so pour the power on and see if you can make it inland
about 500 miles!  Last year I captured CT1DRP several
times, so it can be done.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Hi all, also my congrats Dave ('YXM) ....a quick observation. I have been
looking at the 501 to 505 slot and I notice that the 50Hz sideband from the
TV Line TB just start to encroach on the bottom end of the band here. I dont
see anything much else but I have an aerial problem here at present (and its
raining!) This all suggest the upper end of the band might be better.
However 501550 Hz is clear of the noise at present (which is worst from my
own set.....of course I can control that, others might not be so lucky!)

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Gosh, that was quick!

Congratulations....I'd better hurry up and finish my RX pre-amp. Should have
something lashed up by the week-end.

I've checked my junk box, and I've got TX crystals for 501.55 and 503.25
kHz, so I'd be happy for QRSS/DFCW to be on either of those frequencies..but
that's my own selfish opinion!

On 136 kHz I found I could paint a reasonable trace on your QRSS 60 grabber
with as little as 100 milliwatts TX power, so your 5W output should be
easily enough to work around the UK on QRSS.

What sort of ERP do you expect for 5W RF?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


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  Well the NOV came this morning so I've been busy building a PA... to
generate 5 Watts!!

  I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode etc?

  Dave.

  --
  G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK



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hello Dmitry, dr Lowfers.

tnx for the nice capture. hrd abt the problems with the "TA-window". i say 
sri because my signal makes qrm on 137.777KHz. but mni stations hr from EU 
using x-tal
transmitter and changing freqency will be a problem. I will go qrt now on 
this freqency and wish the beacon stations all the best. sri agn.

73 ed DL2HRE

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Here very strong RX9BS, probably new PA?
>
> Dmitry
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I'm transmitting, there is somebody on the other side ?

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Hello Johan,

Have you tried it without a changeover relay?
The J310 input device is pretty sturdy and it won't break the bank when you 
blow it up.

So far I have not have reports of  a blown J310 due to static either.

Best regards,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt 



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Yes, I am using a small relay in my E-probe antenna.
It connects the whip to ground when power is removed.
I did not notice any change in sensitivity after adding
the relay (although I did not measure it). The relay
adds only a pF or so which is quite small compared to
the whip//FET capacitance in my antenna.

Dave Brown wrote:
 > Has anyone done anything along the lines of  the subject line using a
 > mechanical switch/relay arrangement?



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Has anyone done anything along the lines of  the subject line using a 
mechanical switch/relay arrangement?
I expect that any electronic method would add considerably to the 
capacitance from the probe 'antenna' to ground so the best option 
would seem to be to use something like the mechanical arrangement in 
the old Dow-Key coax relays that had the 'isolated' receive side 
contact. This will require a relay of some sort in the E probe that 
operates to remove the protective earth only when on receive.  I'm 
still mulling over the best mechanical arrangement to implement this 
scheme-all ideas most welcome.
73
Dave, ZL3FJ


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Dave, Hartmut,

Thanks very much for the 3-second reports and screen shots. Dave, I'm 
happy that I missed the Rugby line...you have a lot to choose from! I'll 
be back at it tonight, but don't want to move any closer to Joe's 
frequency, due to the BW I'm clobbering.

Anyway, it's nice to see conditions good enough to permit the higher 
data rate copy.

John A.



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I ran a grabber at QRSS3 last night and this is the best copy of 'XES I got
around 0715 utc.
It's a bit too close to a Rugby line for comfort!

Congrats to Mike and Joe!

Dave.



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I ran a grabber at QRSS3 last night and this is the best copy of &#39;XES I got around 0715 utc.<br>It&#39;s a bit too close to a Rugby line for comfort!<br><br>Congrats to Mike and Joe!<br><br>Dave.<br><br><br clear="all">
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Hi John,

Just a question oobout the SRP form, are the tick boxes at the end of the 
form for applicant or Ofcom use ?

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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I should have added that it might be reasonable to add a separate sheet with
the issue about field-strength, assumptions and how you arrived at the
figure in the RFI assessment box

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Hi Jim & LF,

Thanks for your reply & valid comments, I will follow your lead on that 
aspect. The form has to be printed &  submitted as a written copy, in fact 
John Gould - G3WKL wrote in an earlier mail :-

"I should have added that it might be reasonable to add a separate sheet 
with the issue about field-strength, assumptions and how you arrived at the 
figure in the RFI assessment box"

I notice you have JASON shown next to F (FSK) & G (PSK) modes, is/can it be 
both, I have not used JASON.

Regarding the tick boxes, I assumed they were not for the applicants use as 
they are placed after the notes panel, Maybe we should check with John.

73

Gary - G4WGT

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Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Dear Gary, LF Group,

I suppose the more specific you are about your intentions, the more likely
Ofcom are to consider yours a well-planned application. So I intend to put
down specific modes. In my case I will put:

A1A - ordinary CW / QRSS
F1B - FSK modes like Jason and DFCW (maybe DFCW should really be F1A?)
G1B - PSK modes like PSK31 and Jason.

I will probably also specify that the maximum bandwidth of emission will be,
say, 200Hz, since this is compatible with the width of the band and other
signals in this frequency range.

As far as the ERP goes, I will go for the maximum -10dBW ERP. My
justification is that in order to do far-field field strength measurements,
one needs a reasonable field strength at a reasonable distance. -10dBW will
give you about 220uV/m at 10km, which is no more than adequate to do mobile
FS measurements reasonably easily.

By the way, is it possible to fill in and submit the form on line? As far as
I can tell, you can only download the pdf and send in a hard copy by post,
which will take a bit longer. Also, what about the tick-boxes where you
indicate "supported / not supported"? I suppose I should tick the one that
says "RSGB support"? I guess the "NoV issue" boxes are for Ofcom to
complete?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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Hi Jim & LF,

There has been some discussion regarding emission codes relating I presume
to the section on the OFCOM SRP form requesting - BAND - MODE - POWER -,
Surely it would be acceptable to answer in the box "All Permitted Modes" or
something similar.

What do you think guys ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Dear Gary, LF Group,

I suppose the more specific you are about your intentions, the more =
likely
Ofcom are to consider yours a well-planned application. So I intend to =
put
down specific modes. In my case I will put:

A1A - ordinary CW / QRSS
F1B - FSK modes like Jason and DFCW (maybe DFCW should really be F1A?)
G1B - PSK modes like PSK31 and Jason.

I will probably also specify that the maximum bandwidth of emission will =
be,
say, 200Hz, since this is compatible with the width of the band and =
other
signals in this frequency range.

As far as the ERP goes, I will go for the maximum -10dBW ERP. My
justification is that in order to do far-field field strength =
measurements,
one needs a reasonable field strength at a reasonable distance. -10dBW =
will
give you about 220uV/m at 10km, which is no more than adequate to do =
mobile
FS measurements reasonably easily.

By the way, is it possible to fill in and submit the form on line? As =
far as
I can tell, you can only download the pdf and send in a hard copy by =
post,
which will take a bit longer. Also, what about the tick-boxes where you
indicate "supported / not supported"? I suppose I should tick the one =
that
says "RSGB support"? I guess the "NoV issue" boxes are for Ofcom to
complete?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




-----Original Message-----
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Hi Jim & LF,

There has been some discussion regarding emission codes relating I =
presume=20
to the section on the OFCOM SRP form requesting - BAND - MODE - POWER -, =

Surely it would be acceptable to answer in the box "All Permitted Modes" =
or=20
something similar.

What do you think guys ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, =
and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- End of Original Message -----=20






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Hi Jim & LF,

There has been some discussion regarding emission codes relating I presume 
to the section on the OFCOM SRP form requesting - BAND - MODE - POWER -, 
Surely it would be acceptable to answer in the box "All Permitted Modes" or 
something similar.

What do you think guys ??

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Hi Jim

oops I get a higher SF value but not by an order of 
magnitude. I used info from ON7YD's site to do my calc's and 
I may have got it wrong but I did say they were worst case! 
However the maximum exposure to the general public according 
to US FCC at 4 megs (the best I could find in a hurry on the 
net) was 113w/m^2 or  EU ICNIPR recommendations 7.94 W/m^2 
(as you might expect) but in any case the calculated SF is 
a tiny fraction of this value. 
I did site the 1.8megs DX window power at the high end of 
the MW band in mitigation as well.

Thank you for the your very informative Mail I am sure it 
will be a big help to others. I wish I had seen it before 
posting my application.

We will see how it goes down with Ofcom et al.

73 all (may you live in interesting times) PeteFMT. 


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I should have added that it might be reasonable to add a separate sheet =
with
the issue about field-strength, assumptions and how you arrived at the
figure in the RFI assessment box

73 John, G3WKL

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Jim, thanks for raising this issue. =20

The SRP is a generic form that often is related to "experiments" with =
people
asking for permission to run high power (for EME, MS, HF, etc), where =
the
field-strength would be more meaningful.   I will probably be vetting =
the
applications obo RSGB, so I suggest that one keeps it short and simple;
mention where applicable that the neighbour(s) are in the near zone and
summarise the calculations.  It might be worth stating that this would =
be an
absolute maximum figure as you may experiment with erp less that the =
-10dBW
maximum stipulated.

73 John, G3WKL

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Dear Dave, LF Group,

I don't believe it is possible to give an accurate value for field =
strength
at points close to the antenna - it will depend on too many variable
factors, such as the position, geometry, conductivity and dielectric
properties of all nearby objects. One can come up with a reasonable sort =
of
"worst-case" figure, however; this is my attempt:

-Assume a long-wire antenna with an effective height of 8m. With lambda =
=3D
596m, radiation resistance Rrad will be 0.285ohms.=20

-To achieve 0.1W ERP, Iant =3D sqrt(Perp/1.8xRrad) =3D 0.44A
(I am assuming directional gain of 2.6dB, i.e. 1.8 for a short vertical
antenna over a dipole)

-The antenna voltage depends on the current and the impedance of the
antenna. Most of the impedance is due to the capacitive reactance of the
antenna. The measured antenna capacitance is about 340pF, giving a =
reactance
of 931ohms at 503kHz. Therefore the antenna voltage will be about 411V.

(Also, the loss resistance of this antenna at 500kHz is around 20ohms; =
the
TX power required to obtain 0.44A therefore works out to be about 4W)

-If as a worst case we assume the antenna and ground acts as a sort of
parallel plate capacitor with the physical height of 9m being the =
spacing
between the two plates, the E field strength will be about 46V/m under =
the
antenna.=20

In reality, the field gradient will be higher close to the antenna wire =
than
it is at ground level, so the field strength will be lower than this at
ground level. Also, at positions not directly under the antenna the =
field
will be further reduced, and trees, buildings, bushes, cats etc. in the
vicinity will have a partial screening effect that will also reduce the
field strength. So I think 46V/m is a very conservative maximum figure =
for
this antenna. A bigger antenna will have lower reactance, require less
current due to higher Rrad, and be further away from potential =
"victims", so
would result in lower FS. The converse applies to small antennas.

As you can see, the above figures are pretty tiddly compared to what we =
are
used to at 136k, or at HF for that matter. At my QTH, the FS due to the
nearby broadcast transmitters is around 20V/m. Does anyone know offhand =
what
Ofcom might regard as an unacceptable field strength?

I guess one reason Ofcom might be nervous about permitting higher ERPs =
is
the possible effect on MF broadcast receivers with both RF and IF
frequencies fairly close to the band. But this does not seem to be a =
huge
problem with 160m, or MF beacons. Another possibility might be the =
Navtex
marine safety broadcasts on 490 and 518kHz, whose receivers might get
swamped - but I would think the likelihood of this would be pretty low =
also.

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, =
and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 21 February 2007 17:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs

The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't =
be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside =
my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of =
k2ors@comcast.net
Sent: 21 February 2007 13:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: Re: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that =
Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the =
136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted =
where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. =
On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than - 10 dBW be permitted =
under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 =
watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>















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Mal,  see the answer to Jim's query. =20

I really wouldn't make a big issue of this.  If Ofcom are concerned =
about
whatever we put in for the near-field assessment I feel sure that we =
will be
able to resolve the issue as all applications will be similar.  As I =
have
mentioned in my reply to Jim I am expecting to work with Ofcom on these
applications so if there are any issues that I can't resolve with Ofcom =
I
will probably revert to the applicant; at worst case it may just need an
updated submission.

73 John, G3WKL

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 22 February 2007 13:10
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I share the same concerns as Jim.
For instance to be realistic the 500 khz equipment and antenna would =
need to
be operational for such a test and that is not possible without the SRP
Theoritical measurements would be meaningless and often differ from
practical field tests. I think this RFI assessment area needs =
clarification
from Ofcom. de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Dear Dave, LF Group,

I don't believe it is possible to give an accurate value for field =
strength
at points close to the antenna - it will depend on too many variable
factors, such as the position, geometry, conductivity and dielectric
properties of all nearby objects. One can come up with a reasonable sort =
of
"worst-case" figure, however; this is my attempt:

-Assume a long-wire antenna with an effective height of 8m. With lambda =
=3D
596m, radiation resistance Rrad will be 0.285ohms.

-To achieve 0.1W ERP, Iant =3D sqrt(Perp/1.8xRrad) =3D 0.44A
(I am assuming directional gain of 2.6dB, i.e. 1.8 for a short vertical
antenna over a dipole)

-The antenna voltage depends on the current and the impedance of the
antenna. Most of the impedance is due to the capacitive reactance of the
antenna. The measured antenna capacitance is about 340pF, giving a =
reactance
of 931ohms at 503kHz. Therefore the antenna voltage will be about 411V.

(Also, the loss resistance of this antenna at 500kHz is around 20ohms; =
the
TX power required to obtain 0.44A therefore works out to be about 4W)

-If as a worst case we assume the antenna and ground acts as a sort of
parallel plate capacitor with the physical height of 9m being the =
spacing
between the two plates, the E field strength will be about 46V/m under =
the
antenna.

In reality, the field gradient will be higher close to the antenna wire =
than
it is at ground level, so the field strength will be lower than this at
ground level. Also, at positions not directly under the antenna the =
field
will be further reduced, and trees, buildings, bushes, cats etc. in the
vicinity will have a partial screening effect that will also reduce the
field strength. So I think 46V/m is a very conservative maximum figure =
for
this antenna. A bigger antenna will have lower reactance, require less
current due to higher Rrad, and be further away from potential =
"victims", so
would result in lower FS. The converse applies to small antennas.

As you can see, the above figures are pretty tiddly compared to what we =
are
used to at 136k, or at HF for that matter. At my QTH, the FS due to the
nearby broadcast transmitters is around 20V/m. Does anyone know offhand =
what
Ofcom might regard as an unacceptable field strength?

I guess one reason Ofcom might be nervous about permitting higher ERPs =
is
the possible effect on MF broadcast receivers with both RF and IF
frequencies fairly close to the band. But this does not seem to be a =
huge
problem with 160m, or MF beacons. Another possibility might be the =
Navtex
marine safety broadcasts on 490 and 518kHz, whose receivers might get
swamped - but I would think the likelihood of this would be pretty low =
also.

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, =
and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 21 February 2007 17:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs

The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't =
be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside =
my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of =
k2ors@comcast.net
Sent: 21 February 2007 13:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: Re: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that =
Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the =
136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted =
where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. =
On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than - 10 dBW be permitted =
under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 =
watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made=20
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>













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Hi Jim & LF,

Did a search on OFCOM website & found this reference emission codes.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/noperational/technical/class_emissions_guide

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Jim, thanks for raising this issue. =20

The SRP is a generic form that often is related to "experiments" with =
people
asking for permission to run high power (for EME, MS, HF, etc), where =
the
field-strength would be more meaningful.   I will probably be vetting =
the
applications obo RSGB, so I suggest that one keeps it short and simple;
mention where applicable that the neighbour(s) are in the near zone and
summarise the calculations.  It might be worth stating that this would =
be an
absolute maximum figure as you may experiment with erp less that the =
-10dBW
maximum stipulated.

73 John, G3WKL

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of james moritz
Sent: 22 February 2007 12:18
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Dear Dave, LF Group,

I don't believe it is possible to give an accurate value for field =
strength
at points close to the antenna - it will depend on too many variable
factors, such as the position, geometry, conductivity and dielectric
properties of all nearby objects. One can come up with a reasonable sort =
of
"worst-case" figure, however; this is my attempt:

-Assume a long-wire antenna with an effective height of 8m. With lambda =
=3D
596m, radiation resistance Rrad will be 0.285ohms.=20

-To achieve 0.1W ERP, Iant =3D sqrt(Perp/1.8xRrad) =3D 0.44A
(I am assuming directional gain of 2.6dB, i.e. 1.8 for a short vertical
antenna over a dipole)

-The antenna voltage depends on the current and the impedance of the
antenna. Most of the impedance is due to the capacitive reactance of the
antenna. The measured antenna capacitance is about 340pF, giving a =
reactance
of 931ohms at 503kHz. Therefore the antenna voltage will be about 411V.

(Also, the loss resistance of this antenna at 500kHz is around 20ohms; =
the
TX power required to obtain 0.44A therefore works out to be about 4W)

-If as a worst case we assume the antenna and ground acts as a sort of
parallel plate capacitor with the physical height of 9m being the =
spacing
between the two plates, the E field strength will be about 46V/m under =
the
antenna.=20

In reality, the field gradient will be higher close to the antenna wire =
than
it is at ground level, so the field strength will be lower than this at
ground level. Also, at positions not directly under the antenna the =
field
will be further reduced, and trees, buildings, bushes, cats etc. in the
vicinity will have a partial screening effect that will also reduce the
field strength. So I think 46V/m is a very conservative maximum figure =
for
this antenna. A bigger antenna will have lower reactance, require less
current due to higher Rrad, and be further away from potential =
"victims", so
would result in lower FS. The converse applies to small antennas.

As you can see, the above figures are pretty tiddly compared to what we =
are
used to at 136k, or at HF for that matter. At my QTH, the FS due to the
nearby broadcast transmitters is around 20V/m. Does anyone know offhand =
what
Ofcom might regard as an unacceptable field strength?

I guess one reason Ofcom might be nervous about permitting higher ERPs =
is
the possible effect on MF broadcast receivers with both RF and IF
frequencies fairly close to the band. But this does not seem to be a =
huge
problem with 160m, or MF beacons. Another possibility might be the =
Navtex
marine safety broadcasts on 490 and 518kHz, whose receivers might get
swamped - but I would think the likelihood of this would be pretty low =
also.

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, =
and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 21 February 2007 17:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs

The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't =
be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside =
my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of =
k2ors@comcast.net
Sent: 21 February 2007 13:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: Re: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that =
Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the =
136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted =
where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. =
On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than - 10 dBW be permitted =
under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 =
watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made=20
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>












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I share the same concerns as Jim.
For instance to be realistic the 500 khz equipment and antenna would need to
be operational for such a test and that is not possible without the SRP
Theoritical measurements would be meaningless and often differ from
practical field tests.
I think this RFI assessment area needs clarification from Ofcom.
de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Dear Dave, LF Group,

I don't believe it is possible to give an accurate value for field strength
at points close to the antenna - it will depend on too many variable
factors, such as the position, geometry, conductivity and dielectric
properties of all nearby objects. One can come up with a reasonable sort of
"worst-case" figure, however; this is my attempt:

-Assume a long-wire antenna with an effective height of 8m. With lambda =
596m, radiation resistance Rrad will be 0.285ohms.

-To achieve 0.1W ERP, Iant = sqrt(Perp/1.8xRrad) = 0.44A
(I am assuming directional gain of 2.6dB, i.e. 1.8 for a short vertical
antenna over a dipole)

-The antenna voltage depends on the current and the impedance of the
antenna. Most of the impedance is due to the capacitive reactance of the
antenna. The measured antenna capacitance is about 340pF, giving a reactance
of 931ohms at 503kHz. Therefore the antenna voltage will be about 411V.

(Also, the loss resistance of this antenna at 500kHz is around 20ohms; the
TX power required to obtain 0.44A therefore works out to be about 4W)

-If as a worst case we assume the antenna and ground acts as a sort of
parallel plate capacitor with the physical height of 9m being the spacing
between the two plates, the E field strength will be about 46V/m under the
antenna.

In reality, the field gradient will be higher close to the antenna wire than
it is at ground level, so the field strength will be lower than this at
ground level. Also, at positions not directly under the antenna the field
will be further reduced, and trees, buildings, bushes, cats etc. in the
vicinity will have a partial screening effect that will also reduce the
field strength. So I think 46V/m is a very conservative maximum figure for
this antenna. A bigger antenna will have lower reactance, require less
current due to higher Rrad, and be further away from potential "victims", so
would result in lower FS. The converse applies to small antennas.

As you can see, the above figures are pretty tiddly compared to what we are
used to at 136k, or at HF for that matter. At my QTH, the FS due to the
nearby broadcast transmitters is around 20V/m. Does anyone know offhand what
Ofcom might regard as an unacceptable field strength?

I guess one reason Ofcom might be nervous about permitting higher ERPs is
the possible effect on MF broadcast receivers with both RF and IF
frequencies fairly close to the band. But this does not seem to be a huge
problem with 160m, or MF beacons. Another possibility might be the Navtex
marine safety broadcasts on 490 and 518kHz, whose receivers might get
swamped - but I would think the likelihood of this would be pretty low also.

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs

The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the 136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than - 10 dBW be permitted under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>










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Dear Dave, LF Group,

I don't believe it is possible to give an accurate value for field =
strength
at points close to the antenna - it will depend on too many variable
factors, such as the position, geometry, conductivity and dielectric
properties of all nearby objects. One can come up with a reasonable sort =
of
"worst-case" figure, however; this is my attempt:

-Assume a long-wire antenna with an effective height of 8m. With lambda =
=3D
596m, radiation resistance Rrad will be 0.285ohms.=20

-To achieve 0.1W ERP, Iant =3D sqrt(Perp/1.8xRrad) =3D 0.44A
(I am assuming directional gain of 2.6dB, i.e. 1.8 for a short vertical
antenna over a dipole)

-The antenna voltage depends on the current and the impedance of the
antenna. Most of the impedance is due to the capacitive reactance of the
antenna. The measured antenna capacitance is about 340pF, giving a =
reactance
of 931ohms at 503kHz. Therefore the antenna voltage will be about 411V.

(Also, the loss resistance of this antenna at 500kHz is around 20ohms; =
the
TX power required to obtain 0.44A therefore works out to be about 4W)

-If as a worst case we assume the antenna and ground acts as a sort of
parallel plate capacitor with the physical height of 9m being the =
spacing
between the two plates, the E field strength will be about 46V/m under =
the
antenna.=20

In reality, the field gradient will be higher close to the antenna wire =
than
it is at ground level, so the field strength will be lower than this at
ground level. Also, at positions not directly under the antenna the =
field
will be further reduced, and trees, buildings, bushes, cats etc. in the
vicinity will have a partial screening effect that will also reduce the
field strength. So I think 46V/m is a very conservative maximum figure =
for
this antenna. A bigger antenna will have lower reactance, require less
current due to higher Rrad, and be further away from potential =
"victims", so
would result in lower FS. The converse applies to small antennas.

As you can see, the above figures are pretty tiddly compared to what we =
are
used to at 136k, or at HF for that matter. At my QTH, the FS due to the
nearby broadcast transmitters is around 20V/m. Does anyone know offhand =
what
Ofcom might regard as an unacceptable field strength?

I guess one reason Ofcom might be nervous about permitting higher ERPs =
is
the possible effect on MF broadcast receivers with both RF and IF
frequencies fairly close to the band. But this does not seem to be a =
huge
problem with 160m, or MF beacons. Another possibility might be the =
Navtex
marine safety broadcasts on 490 and 518kHz, whose receivers might get
swamped - but I would think the likelihood of this would be pretty low =
also.

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, =
and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 21 February 2007 17:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: John W Gould
Subject: RE: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs

The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't =
be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside =
my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 21 February 2007 13:17
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Subject: Re: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that =
Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the =
136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted =
where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. =
On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than - 10 dBW be permitted =
under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 =
watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>









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Hello Dave,

Do you have a mod to get the Kenwood TS-930 to transmit on 505-510kc? I =
have a transverter for the band but would like to know if the 930 can be =
modified like the TS-850 for 505-510 transmit.

Thank you,
Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16

  From: Dave Brown<mailto:tractorb@ihug.co.nz>=20

   If it happens at all in ZL it seems like 505-510 will be the band.=20
  Concern for protection of legacy operation on 500 and just below is=20
  the main concern apparently- no idea just where such operation is=20
  taking place. It may be OFCOM is thinking the same way but taking a=20
  more pragmatic approach by allowing 'limited output' operation a bit=20
  closer to 500 in the first instance, to see if it really is an issue.

  73
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**********SNIP
> By The Way : Are there any other counties out of the few have within 
> their allocation to cover our 501 - 504 KHz or are we on our own on 
> this one. I am happy to see OFCOM etc allowing this slot & not 
> complaining but it would be good to share the same bandwidth with 
> other countries.


 If it happens at all in ZL it seems like 505-510 will be the band. 
Concern for protection of legacy operation on 500 and just below is 
the main concern apparently- no idea just where such operation is 
taking place. It may be OFCOM is thinking the same way but taking a 
more pragmatic approach by allowing 'limited output' operation a bit 
closer to 500 in the first instance, to see if it really is an issue.

73
Dave, ZL3FJ ( the TX loop tunes to 500, the 757 puts out about 70w 
before shutting down-- I'm ready!!) 


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----- Original Message ----- 

...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi Dave & LF,

Having looked at the application form I can see that is also going to be my 
stumbling block even though I have registered my interest.

By The Way : Are there any other counties out of the few have within their 
allocation to cover our 501 - 504 KHz or are we on our own on this one. I am 
happy to see OFCOM etc allowing this slot & not complaining but it would be 
good to share the same bandwidth with other countries.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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The first UK applicant to get a 500kHz SRP has to buy the beers. (Won't be
me...I haven't yet figured out how to measure the field strength inside my
neighbour's siting-room, will it interfere with his toaster, etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that Ofcom
is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the 136
kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted where
it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. On
no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than � 10 dBW be permitted under
any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for
QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about
interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 watts
erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>






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Hi Warren

There are at least four NDBs in the 500-505kHz range which can be heard in 
Europe so Ofcomm might be concerned about those?

http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=signal_list

73s Tracey

>  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for 
> QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about 
> interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 watts 
> erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.
>


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Hi John and the list,

     Congratulations on your new experimental allocation!   I see that Ofcom is restricting your experiment to very low power levels:

"In general, considerably lower e.r.p. levels than that permitted in the 136 kHz band are likely to be favourable and this will only be permitted where it can be demonstrated that increased powers are necessary for research. On no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than � 10 dBW be permitted under any circumstance."

  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 watts erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.

  
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John W Gould" <jwgould@iee.org.uk>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See 
> 
> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200
> 70221
> 
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
> 
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
> 
> 
> 



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Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
available for 12 months from 1st March. See=20

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
70221

and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.

73 John, G3WKL
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Hello all ,

Good copy of XES now !

Look at :
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

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Dear friends,
          the beacon DI2AG is on air again, running 2W ERP, QRSS10  "AG =
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS (good signal)
WD2XES (good trace in qrss60/120, weak signal in QRSS3 only one "S" readable !!!! )
VO1NA  (good signal)
weak trace on frequency of VE3OT

Low static level
Low noise level

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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Gosh, that was quick!=20

Congratulations....I'd better hurry up and finish my RX pre-amp. Should =
have something lashed up by the week-end.

I've checked my junk box, and I've got TX crystals for 501.55 and 503.25 =
kHz, so I'd be happy for QRSS/DFCW to be on either of those =
frequencies..but that's my own selfish opinion!

On 136 kHz I found I could paint a reasonable trace on your QRSS 60 =
grabber with as little as 100 milliwatts TX power, so your 5W output =
should be easily enough to work around the UK on QRSS.

What sort of ERP do you expect for 5W RF?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick
  Sent: 27 February 2007 15:45
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  Well the NOV came this morning so I've been busy building a PA... to =
generate 5 Watts!!

  I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode =
etc?

  Dave.

  --=20
  G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK 
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size=3D2>On 136=20
kHz I found I could paint a reasonable trace on your QRSS 60 grabber =
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Joe,a small screen capture of VO1NA last night in JN18FP.
Tonight, nothing on 137.777.
 
_http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/180/vo1naih6.jpg_ 
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/180/vo1naih6.jpg) 
 
 
33 foots vertical antenna with loading coil at base and IC7400  receiver.
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas


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Mal,

> I expected you to get a good signal and others in your area. An email 
> from Boston indicated the signal as very strong. 

Just curious...who was the listener in Boston?

John Andrews, W1TAG



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Tnx Jay
I expected you to get a good signal and others in your area. An email =
from Boston indicated the signal as very strong. I suppose it depends on =
what antennas people are using. I find that my vertical consistantly =
produces a much better signal on RX on long haul than the vert loop.
The TR novelty has worn thin on 137khz, so many other diversions like =
500 khz over your way, its hard to be everywhere at once.
73 de Mal/G3KEV

=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:43 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: KEV


  Mal

  When I first started watching conditions were quiet and your signal =
was quite readable. QRN from storms began to take you out shortly after =
I posted that message. Suspect we'll have noisy conditions the next =
couple nights until the two storm systems headed for the northeast get =
past us and move out to sea.=20

  Jay
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: hamilton mal=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:58 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: KEV


    Jay
    Tnx info but I did not stay on long 1130-0030 utc. This is usually a =
good
    slot.
    73 de Mal/G3KEV

    ----- Original Message -----
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    Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:48 PM
    Subject: LF: KEV


    > Seeing some QRSS10 activity on 319 but not enough to get a full
    call...yet...
    >
    > http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html
    >
    > Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
    >


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I expected you to get a good signal and =
others in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The TR novelty has worn thin on 137khz, =
so many=20
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everywhere at=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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2007 6:43=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I first started watching =
conditions were=20
  quiet and your signal was quite readable.&nbsp;QRN from&nbsp;storms =
began to=20
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have=20
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systems=20
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Well done Dave,
I will be listening at the weekend. Best of luck.
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Well done Dave,<br>
I will be listening at the weekend. Best of luck.<br>
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Hi Uwe...Phew that is a relief I wasn't too happy about my diagnosis anyway,
and the linearity nullified it as an opton.
Well Done, I do like it when you solve a problem and do actually know what
caused it. I used to have a pernickity tech working with me who used to
replace the removed "faulty" component when the set worked ok, to see if the
fault returned ! He wasn't really happy until it was pinned down and set in
concrete. We used to see very few of these repaired units in the workshop
again. The ones I dont like are the ones that just "go away" and you cant
get them back. Its then either a lot of soak testing or use the customer as
the tester.

Good LF DX !!
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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Hi Jeff, hi Alan,
sri for being so late with the response.

> I use 54�H air coils
Jeff, here are two 54�H ring core coils in use. they did and do a good job
up to 1kW output.

> What is it like a lower power levels ??
Alan, it was all the same, 10W or 800W.

> what if there is insulator leakage
to find the defect I connected a aerial dummy to the end of the feeder (80m
long) in the first step: all the same! second ?accidentally- step: I
manually
moved the phasemeter somewhat ? surprise: sines like they have to be on the
screen!
I am ashamed to tell you that inside the phasemeter (homebrew) a ?naked-
wire
touched the case.

thanks for the hints and best regards
Uwe/dj8wx







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Hi Jeff, hi Alan,
sri for being so late with the response.

> I use 54=B5H air coils
Jeff, here are two 54=B5H ring core coils in use. they did and do a good jo=
b
up to 1kW output.

> What is it like a lower power levels ??
Alan, it was all the same, 10W or 800W.

> what if there is insulator leakage
to find the defect I connected a aerial dummy to the end of the feeder (80m
long) in the first step: all the same! second ?accidentally- step: I manual=
ly
moved the phasemeter somewhat ? surprise: sines like they have to be on the
screen!
I am ashamed to tell you that inside the phasemeter (homebrew) a ?naked- wi=
re
touched the case.

thanks for the hints and best regards
Uwe/dj8wx





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Hi Uwe, It may be off beam, but it occurs to me that the current looks 3rd
harmonicy but the voltage doesnt....what if there is insulator leakage at
the high voltage peaks that would pull more current from the feeder on the
voltage peaks ?? I have never had enough power for corona here so i am not
sure what it would look like on a scope. What is it like a lower power
levels ??

Cheers de Alan G3NYK (always ready with a silly question !!)

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi all,
> at the output of my LF TX the phase of V and A looked nice,
> both clean sines and in phase until I lengthened the top wires from 180m
to
> 200m.
> the system is in resonance, the phase OK. but the form of the A sine is
> chaotic:
> pse see atachment.
>
> my question, what is wrong?
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx
>
>
>



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17./02/2007   2231z


Good night Uwe,

Perhaps a low pass filter problem, there is perhaps too much harmonic...
I suppose that everything goes fine with a pure resistive load.
What are the values of the components of your low pass filter?
I use 54=B5H air coils, because I had saturation problems with magnetics=20
supports, it is bigger but better (from my side).
In QRP it is easy but in QRO troubles are there! I hope that you are goin=
g=20
to find a solution.
Vy 73 Uwe

Jeff F6CWN


----- Original Message -----=20
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> Hi all,
> at the output of my LF TX the phase of V and A looked nice,
> both clean sines and in phase until I lengthened the top wires from 180=
m=20
> to
> 200m.
> the system is in resonance, the phase OK. but the form of the A sine is
> chaotic:
> pse see atachment.
>
> my question, what is wrong?
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx
>
>
>=20




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Hi Scott,

I have carried out a number of tests on the MiniWhip cct. and like you, I 
found that at +12V DC supply there were signs of inter-mod products - such 
as weak phantom broadcast stations just below 400kHz which should not be 
there

At +15 and above, they pretty well dissappear.  I also then tweaked the 
values of the 2.2K/10K potential divider feeding the base of the 2N5109 to 
drop the base voltage a bit because with the original values, the 
collector-base voltage was only about +2V which is not really enough I 
think. I was also using about 150ft of 50 ohm RG58U coax to the shack from 
the garden but with hind sight, I think it woiuld be better to have used 
70ohm feeder to reduce the capacitive load on the emitter of the 2N5109 and 
probably insert a 70 ohm series resistor at the emitter to provide a better 
source impedance for the cable and help absorb reflections back down the 
line although wouild incur a 6dB signal loss.
I have had to take my MiniWhip down temporarily due to building work on a 
conservatory at the back of the house, but I intend to return to the subject 
when all the mess is cleared away!! I still think it is very neat design and 
mechanically simpler than the AMRAD design.

73  de  Derek Atter G3GRO

PS - I seem to remember that the Royal Navy used to employ an RX antenna 
multi-coupler using several 807 tetrodes years ago!

----- Original Message ----- 
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> After an epic struggle with my miniwhip I discovered that it likes a much 
> higher input voltage then documented in the construction article...
> Running it at around 17V seems to clear up the intermod problem.
>
> So the grabber is back up.
> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
>
> 73 Scott
>
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Hi Scott, LFers,

That's good news about the mini-whip power.  I intend to put mine
out in the back field, well clear of everything, and to power it from
a sealed battery pack with a small solar panel to keep it charged.
Since most panels put out around 17-18 volts if not regulated, it
would seem that I've hit upon a lucky break for once!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
 



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I shall TX qrs 10 tonite on 136.319 plus or minus a little to avoid qrm.
Will watch 137.770 khz if anyone wants to call.
or any other freq if requested ie 1.8 mhz, 7 mhz etc
G3KEV



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Hi All
I will be QRV tonite on 136.319 approx. I can watch 137.770 if anyone wants
to try a QSO across the pond.
73 de Mal/G3KEV




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A capture of the QSO between RA3YO and RX9BS can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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John, you need to understand that we submitted the proposal to our regulator
in Sept 2004, so it takes its time over here also.  

Well done, Dave.  Hopefully, there will be some more to follow soon.

73 John, G3WKL

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Dave,

Your U.S. compatriots with a 9 month wait time to get the slightest 
change in an experimental license are envious. Congrats.

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Well the NOV came this morning so I've been busy building a PA... to
generate 5 Watts!!

I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode etc?

Dave.

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Well the NOV came this morning so I&#39;ve been busy building a PA... to generate 5 Watts!!<br><br>I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode etc?<br><br>Dave.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hi John, Joe's 136 exciter is crystal controlled and is the "original"
137.777kHz
I am guessing his antenna is not so good since he lost his tower in the
ice-storm the other year.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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> What frequency, please?  Those of us who maintain databases on THIS side
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What frequency, please?  Those of us who maintain databases on THIS side of 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the report.  Conditions are very good it seems!
73
joe

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Joe,good copy of VO1NA also in JN18FP (or south of Paris)
> Somes traces from XES in QRSS3.I wait more reception to send my screen
> capture.
> Very good T/A conditions.
>
> 33 foots vertical antenna with loading coil at base and IC7400  receiver.
> 73 de F4DTL  Nicolas
>


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Hi Joe the extra amp certainly makes a difference. Hope you catch Mike.
Alan

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for operating your grabber.  It is good to see that
the sigs are crossing the pond!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Jean-Pierre M�r� wrote:

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> the files of night are filed each day at :
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello Joe,good copy of VO1NA also in JN18FP (or south of Paris)
Somes traces from XES in QRSS3.I wait more reception to send my screen  
capture.
Very good T/A conditions.
 
33 foots vertical antenna with loading coil at base and IC7400  receiver.
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for operating your grabber.  It is good to see that
the sigs are crossing the pond!

Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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Hello all ,


Wahooooo ! very srong signal of VO1NA now !



Please look at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Hi LF's

Oleg RX9BS (rx9bs@mail.ru)  capture DL2HRE,
but not complete QSO


Dmitry

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Oleg RX9BS (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rx9bs@mail.ru">rx9bs@mail.ru</a>) �capture DL2HRE,<br>
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Hello LF group,

The hard combat of the man and and nature ;-)
I opened 2 Hertz moreover on the window of my Grabber for those which=20
want to carry out tests, not to make tests on 137.777 which is the=20
frequency of the beacon of Joe VO1NA.
Cheers , courage Joe !

Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> As a result of a nasty winter storm, the aerial is once again
> entangled in the treetops.  Despite a valiant expedition
> on snow shoes with the execution by axe of several
> obstinate trees, much effort remains before transmissions can
> resume.
>
> Thanks to all who have reported the signals before the storm.
>
> 73
> Joe VO1NA
>
>
>
>  =20

--=20
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Dear LF Group,

As a result of a nasty winter storm, the aerial is once again
entangled in the treetops.  Despite a valiant expedition
on snow shoes with the execution by axe of several
obstinate trees, much effort remains before transmissions can
resume.

Thanks to all who have reported the signals before the storm.

73
Joe VO1NA


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Hi Ed, there is no need to go qrt if you can just tweak up your crystal by
about 0.2 Hz it will clear Joe's signal. I was surprised you were exactly on
such an odd frequency but I guess it must be with the same "standard",
easily available crystal, and divider that Joe uses. I now realise (thanks
to Hartmut) that the Russians were using that frequency but I was surprised
they were not listening on 136.2 area. Your message explains all that.

As I said in my earlier message I would not want to prevent anyone from
creating activity on 136.......we want ll we can get !! I hope your
transmissions to the East were successful.

Glad to see you on the reflector. I have copied your signal here many times
in JO02PB

Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: dl2hre <dl2hre@arcor.de>
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Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS-DL2HRE


> hello Dmitry, dr Lowfers.
>
> tnx for the nice capture. hrd abt the problems with the "TA-window". i say
> sri because my signal makes qrm on 137.777KHz. but mni stations hr from EU
> using x-tal
> transmitter and changing freqency will be a problem. I will go qrt now on
> this freqency and wish the beacon stations all the best. sri agn.
>
> 73 ed DL2HRE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dmitri" <ra3yo@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:40 PM
> Subject: LF: RX9BS-DL2HRE
>
>
> > Here very strong RX9BS, probably new PA?
> >
> > Dmitry
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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> Apparently there weren't many spiders since the transmission was short lived.

Or maybe one big one that blew the thing off the air?

JA



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Apparently there weren't many spiders since the transmission was short lived.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


----- Original Message ----- 
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> I cant see it here yet Jay but I am using a very very low Marconi ....most
> of it on the floor.
> 
> Alan
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> > Seems CFH is clearing out a few spiders...
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> > Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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> 
> 


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J
I worked VY2TT last nite on 160m cw he was 579 good signal.Thought you might
like to know sigs are arriving here, given the right circumstances 137 is a
possibility.

----- Original Message -----
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> Joe,
>
> Thanks for watching, but it looks like the signal is having a hard time
even
> getting out to the south into Scott's Grabber.  I do not know of anyone
who
> is really receiving the signal yet.  Wait until near midnight local time
and
> let's see what happens.
>
> What is the Aurora doing tonight?   Is the index still up at 7.0?  If it
is,
> we can easily understand a signal being kept under Aurora's halo.
>
> J.
>
>
>



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No sign of your signal on last night's captures. I've watched quite a few times now with not even a
glimpse. Have you measured your ERP?

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


----- Original Message ----- 
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> Joe,
>
> Thanks for watching, but it looks like the signal is having a hard time even
> getting out to the south into Scott's Grabber.  I do not know of anyone who
> is really receiving the signal yet.  Wait until near midnight local time and
> let's see what happens.
>
> What is the Aurora doing tonight?   Is the index still up at 7.0?  If it is,
> we can easily understand a signal being kept under Aurora's halo.
>
> J.
>
>
>



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Joe,

Thanks for watching, but it looks like the signal is having a hard time even
getting out to the south into Scott's Grabber.  I do not know of anyone who
is really receiving the signal yet.  Wait until near midnight local time and
let's see what happens.

What is the Aurora doing tonight?   Is the index still up at 7.0?  If it is,
we can easily understand a signal being kept under Aurora's halo.

J. 




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Hi J and Group,

No sign of VY1JA yet, but XES John was very strong until about 0230 when
MP Mitch was quite strong.   Still seeing traces of MP at 0340 but
little else.

73
Joe



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Hi Allen,

I'll take a look for you. Nothing has been seen on 136.318 so
its up to 137.7784 for a while.

73
Joe

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, J Allen wrote:

> Work on legal the limit amp is slowly progressing.
>
> The beacon has been switched to DFCW30, with dit at ~137778.4 and
> transmitting full call, VY1JA, continuously, 24/7.
>
> Reports and captures are appreciated.
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> The exception to 24/7 is that the transmitter must be restarted after power
> outages, and the snow is FALLING!  There is more accumulated snow this year
> than I have seen in Yukon and I moved here in 1990.
>
> CP20kw
> Very near NDB "JB"
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Work on legal the limit amp is slowly progressing.  

The beacon has been switched to DFCW30, with dit at ~137778.4 and
transmitting full call, VY1JA, continuously, 24/7.

Reports and captures are appreciated.

The exception to 24/7 is that the transmitter must be restarted after power
outages, and the snow is FALLING!  There is more accumulated snow this year
than I have seen in Yukon and I moved here in 1990.

CP20kw
Very near NDB "JB"

J.




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Tracey,

   How do I get on the Yahoo NDB list?

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<P>Hello Hugh</P>
<P>I'm aware that your question has already been answered, but if you want =
to know more about NDBs take a look at Alan Gale's web site</P>
<P><A href=3D"http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/">http://www.beaconworld.org.uk=
/</A></P>
<P>We also run a "closed" list on yahoo for anyone who is interested in NDB=
 DXing.</P>
<P>73s Tracey</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P><BR>---- Msg sent via TalkTalk WebMail - http://www.mytalktalk=
.co.uk/


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18./02/2007   2118z

The win of the Man counters the machine,bravo Uwe!

VY 73: Jeff


----- Original Message -----=20
From: <uwe-jannsen@versanet.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Sine or not



Hi Jeff, hi Alan,
sri for being so late with the response.

> I use 54=B5H air coils
Jeff, here are two 54=B5H ring core coils in use. they did and do a good =
job
up to 1kW output.

> What is it like a lower power levels ??
Alan, it was all the same, 10W or 800W.

> what if there is insulator leakage
to find the defect I connected a aerial dummy to the end of the feeder (8=
0m
long) in the first step: all the same! second ?accidentally- step: I=20
manually
moved the phasemeter somewhat ? surprise: sines like they have to be on t=
he
screen!
I am ashamed to tell you that inside the phasemeter (homebrew) a ?naked-=20
wire
touched the case.

thanks for the hints and best regards
Uwe/dj8wx








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Version 1.24 of Winrad has been just released. It can be freely downloaded from
http://www/weaksignals.com and the mirror site  http://www.winrad.org

  From the change log :

Version 1.24 - Released on February 13th, 2007

* Released revised specifications on how to write a DLL to support external hardware, with new functions added.
* Modified again the support of the external I/O DLL to make it consistent with the published specs.
* Released one external I/O DLL to support the RFspace SDR-IQ (in addition to the SDR-14)
* Added the possibility to disable the auto-adjustment of the volume slider
* Streamlined the code with a substantial reduction of the Winrad CPU load


Feedbacks, comments and reports gladly accepted, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD





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Joe and All,

The Auroral level is 4 again, but this time there is some east/west
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I wonder if the signal will peak in the middle of the night into your
area... If it does it will be a very rare occurrence.

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A weak trace of "MP" was visible here 04:50-06:00 on 137.7768 kHz and
a UNID DFCW "RA3R" drifting downwards 07:45-08:15 about 137.778 kHz.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



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Hi Jay ,
Good conditions at the beginning of night in spite of the high level of=20
noise and statics , I copy NA , XNS , XES . Then large degradation, John=20
(XES) carried out tests towards 03:00, his signal was hardly visible!=20
The noise and statics remained high all the night.
73  Jean-Pierre f1afj

Jay Rusgrove a =E9crit :
> No TA reception here tonight due to high noise level from approaching s=
torms...so will TX for a
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No TA reception here tonight due to high noise level from approaching storms...so will TX for a
while.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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A bug has been fixed in the SDR-14/IQ support DLL of Winrad. the problem affects only those who have installed that DLL, 
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Please download again the SDR14-IQ.zip file, and replace the ExtIO_SDR14.dll file in the Winrad directory. Simply 
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Hello all ,


Good copy of VO1NA  now !
Look at :
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Jay
Tnx info but I did not stay on long 1130-0030 utc. This is usually a good
slot.
73 de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Seeing some QRSS10 activity on 319 but not enough to get a full
call...yet...
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html
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> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Mal

When I first started watching conditions were quiet and your signal was =
quite readable. QRN from storms began to take you out shortly after I =
posted that message. Suspect we'll have noisy conditions the next couple =
nights until the two storm systems headed for the northeast get past us =
and move out to sea.=20

Jay
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jay
  Tnx info but I did not stay on long 1130-0030 utc. This is usually a =
good
  slot.
  73 de Mal/G3KEV

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  > Seeing some QRSS10 activity on 319 but not enough to get a full
  call...yet...
  >
  > http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html
  >
  > Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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Jean-Pierre,

Thank-you for the report and operating the grabber.  I use it
frequently to check my signals.
73
Joe

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

> Hello Joe ,
> Very good ! your signal are strong now !


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Hello Joe ,
Very good ! your signal are strong now !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> NA is back -- with a vengence.  The aerial current is up half an amp
> to 2.7 amps.  Will be qsx on 136.318 kHz +-2Hz tonight.
>
> Keeping in mind global CO2, the aerial was raised without having
> to chop down any more trees!   Hopefully Mother Nature will
> be merciful for a while.
>
> 73
> Joe
>
>
>
>  =20

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NA is back -- with a vengence.  The aerial current is up half an amp
to 2.7 amps.  Will be qsx on 136.318 kHz +-2Hz tonight.

Keeping in mind global CO2, the aerial was raised without having
to chop down any more trees!   Hopefully Mother Nature will
be merciful for a while.

73
Joe


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3sec/dot grabber 137.7 is running.

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Actually John, that's not so daft ! Years ago when i first got interested  in 
radio while still at school, i remember that a friend's father had a homebrew 
 160 metre station in which every bottle in the Tx, Rx and power supply used  
govt.surplus 807. And, Yes I do mean "in the power supply as well ! Even the  
rectfier was an 807. I think all the components came from ex-military WW2 
kit. I  certainly remember the Rx tuning mech. was one of those Muirhead 
slow-motion  drives approx 3 inches dia.
 
 
 
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:14:07 +0100 "John RABSON" <john.rabson@wanadoo.fr>
writes:
> I believe that at Station X (aka Bletchley Park) the monitoring 
> positions used large numbers of HROs and AR88s, fed from a common 
> aerial farm.  Some kind of preamp was needed and I have been told 
> they used several 807s.
>
I actually may have one HRO from Bletchley. It was brought to the US from
England
it is an HRO MX and has a 8 Coil sets and the coil holder that has the
looks
that it may have fit into some kind of a consol. The coil all have the
number 16 hand painted on them
so there were at least 16 of the HRO in use ,,, Probably was sent to
England as part of Lend Lease ?
it was re capped at least once and it needed to be recapped again. it was
full of Micamolds and Dubilier 
made in England

Works well

Bob K3DJC 


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I believe that at Station X (aka Bletchley Park) the monitoring positions=
 used large numbers of HROs and AR88s, fed from a common aerial farm.  Some=
 kind of preamp was needed and I have been told they used several 807s.

I also came across an Old Timer who used a single 807 on CW, running 110 W=
 input.  He said "It's very simple.  You keep the volts up, the current=
 down and be careful of the screen dissipation.  Anyway, I have a large box=
 of these which I got government surplus".

73
John F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 12/02/2007 at 20:53 Alan Melia wrote:

>No No Dave lotsa volts and lotsa milliamps, Nuvistors a trifle fragile
>compared with 807s..... I believe Brian CT1DRP built one or used one for=
 an
>e-probe. Feeding can be a problem, they do have a bite !!
>
>Alan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: 12 February 2007 20:33
>Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: TIL Grabber back online...
>
>
>> 807 =3D vacuum tube =3D WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode. You could try a
>Nuvistor
>> ;-)
>>
>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM







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Zitat von valerio gabbani <valeriogabbani@gmail.com>:

> The rain is over so also this evening i will try to cross, freq about
> 136.3195 untill 23:00.
> During the night i try to receive,  at this time i never seen anything from
> the other ocean side.
>
>
> '73 de IK5ZPV
>

Hi Valerio,
strong signs in the northern part of Germany.
gd luck
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The rain is over so also this evening i will try to cross, freq about
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The rain is over so also this evening i will try to cross, freq about 136.3195 untill 23:00.<br>During the night i try to receive,&nbsp; at this time i never seen anything from the other ocean side. <br><br><br>&#39;73 de IK5ZPV
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Here very strong RX9BS, probably new PA?

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Pete, I would suggest that you mention the work that you have done at
136kHz, etc

73 John, G3WKL

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Hi David and group.

The application is concerned with RF safety and Field 
strength at neighboring properties. At 1/10  watt ERP thats 
a bit of a joke but I guess we have to do the calculations. 
How to demonstrate technical competence? This I can only 
assume is to describe the proposed station and its technical 
parameters from exciter type through to antenna. In my case 
crystal heterodyne method as a start. And I guess the method 
to measure ERP? Or can the antenna efficiency be assumed 
from calculations?
Any way I have made a stab at all those questions and we 
will see what the result is. 

Best 73 Pete M0fmt.





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Hi David and group.

The application is concerned with RF safety and Field 
strength at neighboring properties. At 1/10  watt ERP thats 
a bit of a joke but I guess we have to do the calculations. 
How to demonstrate technical competence? This I can only 
assume is to describe the proposed station and its technical 
parameters from exciter type through to antenna. In my case 
crystal heterodyne method as a start. And I guess the method 
to measure ERP? Or can the antenna efficiency be assumed 
from calculations?
Any way I have made a stab at all those questions and we 
will see what the result is. 

Best 73 Pete M0fmt.


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John,

there are low-cost and readily available xtals for 11059 and 22118 kHz.
Devided by 22 or 44 this results in 502.69 kHz.
In the better electronics shop you might find 28224 kHz xtals, devided =20
by 56 =3D 504 kHz.
Even more exotic (but some kind of standard) is 49152 kHz, devided by =20
98 =3D 501.55 kHz

73, Rik  ON7YD

Quoting John W Gould <jwgould@iee.org.uk>:

> I'm busy building a DDS, but if that fails to work in a sensible timescale
> I'll need to be xtal controlled, so an agreement where we might cluster fo=
r
> QRSS/DFCW might be worthwhile.  This might also be helpful for others.  Ar=
e
> there any obvious frequencies that are divides from standard crystals?
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
> Sent: 21 February 2007 20:28
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> Subject: LF: RE: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs
>
>
> LF Group,
>
> Is anyone willing to propose a voluntary bandplan for the UK 501 kHz
> allocation? We could follow the same sort of scheme that is followed on 13=
7
> kHz, with separate areas for CW, digital and QRSS/DFCW modes. The 3kHz
> available is broadly similar to the 137 kHz allocation, and won't be enoug=
h
> to permit much by way of "broadband" operation (MCW, DSB-AM, SSB, or even
> drifty CW etc)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John W Gould
> Sent: 21 February 2007 11:03
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs
>
>
> Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
> available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/2=
00
> 70221
>
> and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
> 73 John, G3WKL
> RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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I'm busy building a DDS, but if that fails to work in a sensible =
timescale
I'll need to be xtal controlled, so an agreement where we might cluster =
for
QRSS/DFCW might be worthwhile.  This might also be helpful for others.  =
Are
there any obvious frequencies that are divides from standard crystals?

73 John, G3WKL

-----Original Message-----
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LF Group,

Is anyone willing to propose a voluntary bandplan for the UK 501 kHz
allocation? We could follow the same sort of scheme that is followed on =
137
kHz, with separate areas for CW, digital and QRSS/DFCW modes. The 3kHz
available is broadly similar to the 137 kHz allocation, and won't be =
enough
to permit much by way of "broadband" operation (MCW, DSB-AM, SSB, or =
even
drifty CW etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
available for 12 months from 1st March. See

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/=
200
70221

and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager










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Walter, individuals will need to apply to use their licence so it will =
be a
little while before any SRPs are issued; hopefully, in time for the 1st
March. =20

>From the wording of the Ofcom announcement they see one aspect of
experimental access they are expecting us to be able to operate at
significantly lower erp than at 136kHz, and without interference to =
others.
We will of course be intereste in assessing the communication range at =
this
erp, and also explore any anomalous propagation effects.  Having a =
number of
SRP licences within the relatively small area of the UK will allow some
interesting work to be done on confirming predictions on ground-wave
propagation.

73 John, G3WKL


-----Original Message-----
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Dear John,
        congrats to your permits. Is there already a stations list? What
power? Modes? Very interesting. Hope to see ( and hear ) you soon.
73   Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF


-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007 12:03
Betreff: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs


>Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made=20
>available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notice
>s/20
0
>70221
>
>and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
>73 John, G3WKL
>RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>
>






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Very good T/A conditions last night. Started with the excellent copy
of Joe's part of the T/A QSO on 137.7771 kHz. Congrats to Mike and
Joe!

Again only partial copy of Mitch's "MP" The signal was visible
04:00-07:00 on 137.77683 kHz.

Overall stable signal level of the QRSS3 signal from John. The first
part until 02:00 was a bit sketchy. But after 03:00 solid copy until
07:00 on 137.779 kHz.

Excellent copy of Jay's XNS in QRSS60 on 137.781 23:40-01:50 and
02:55-08:10.

Except MP all signals were visible on a QRSS3 screen.


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Jay,

Thanks for watching.  The east-west path is very difficult, especially
crossing such a broad continent. I can only wish that your efforts had been
rewarded by at least one capture of the rare Canadian "J".

VY1JA is running, "Ole Faithful", an amp built by Steve, VE7SL which
currently delivers  nearly 100 Watts output.

A new amp should be completed soon, and the power level raised about 3 dB.
I know this is not much, but at 1W ERP it may mean that you can begin to
copy VY1JA on very rare occasions.

I hope you and some of the other watchers will see our Canadian 2200 meter
signals in the weeks which remain of our experimental license period, which
I believe ends late this spring.

It has been fun.

J




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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES ( 2 shorts tests 00:15 and 02:30 )
VO1NA ( good signal ! two calls complete in QRSS60 , 00:35>02:30 )

Middle static level
Middle noise level

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



























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NDB=3D Non Directional Beacon

73s peter dl6nl  =20


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Hello Tracey
Pardon my ignorance ... what does NDB stand for ?
73
Hugh M0WYE
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> Hi Warren
>
> There are at least four NDBs in the 500-505kHz range which can be heard in 
> Europe so Ofcomm might be concerned about those?
>
> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=signal_list
>
> 73s Tracey
>
>>  This will pretty much preclude transatlantic work, except possibly for 
>> QRS, which is a pity.  I wonder what it is that Ofcom is worried about 
>> interfering with?  The U.S. experimental stations are limited to 20 watts 
>> erp, which is 23dB more than Ofcom is allow U.K. amateurs.
>>
> 



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Copied VO1NA, WD2XES and WD2XNS last night.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Hello Markus OK for intermodulation maybe due from the strong  signal of Gus=
.
I retry the observations tonight.
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Best regards.F4DTL Nicolas
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Hi  Nicolas,

looks like the third signal is only present when BHZ and AG  are both=20
key down - probably an intermodulation product, perhaps produced  by a=20
fast receiver AGC acting on the 10 Hz beat frequency.

73 and  good luck,
Markus, DF6NM


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Verschickt: Do., 15. Feb. 2007, 0:20
Thema:  LF: SM6BHZ and DI2AG

Hello Walter and Gus,nice copy on 600 meters band  this night from yur=20
beacons.
Who is the station on 505.110 kHz  ?

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Hi Nicolas,

looks like the third signal is only present when BHZ and AG are both=20
key down - probably an intermodulation product, perhaps produced by a=20
fast receiver AGC acting on the 10 Hz beat frequency.

73 and good luck,
Markus, DF6NM


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Thema: LF: SM6BHZ and DI2AG

Hello Walter and Gus,nice copy on 600 meters band this night from yur=20
beacons.
Who is the station on 505.110 kHz ?
=C2=A0
See my capture:
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Hello Walter and Gus,nice copy on 600 meters band this night from yur  
beacons.
Who is the station on 505.110 kHz ?
 
See my capture:
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Dear John,
        congrats to your permits. Is there already a stations list? What
power? Modes?
Very interesting. Hope to see ( and hear ) you soon.
73   Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF


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>Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
>available for 12 months from 1st March. See
>
>http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices=
/20
0
>70221
>
>and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.
>
>73 John, G3WKL
>RSGB HF Manager
>
>
>
>



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Hello all ,

WD2XNS start now !

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Seeing some QRSS10 activity on 319 but not enough to get a full call...yet...

http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Hi Joe ,
Good signal on 777 !
Nothing here on 318 +- 3Hz in Europ .
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Will be sending NA K on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz.
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> Joe VO1NA
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Will be sending NA K on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz.

73
Joe VO1NA



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Hi All,

Continuing tests now for a little while - 136.3195 KHz - 250 watts DC in - 
1.8 A antenna current.

Sending -  G4WGT  - at qrss10.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp



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Jean-Pierre,

Excellent! I will be on by 0200, and we will see what results.

John A.




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John

I created a page of "grabber" for this test, I will activate it before=20
lying down ~00:00! refrech is every 10 minutes, I store a capture each=20
10 minutes. To reach it :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/GrabberXES.htm

J-P f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> The picture looks normal to me. I have seen the same detail on other=20
> signals when viewed with a very slow FFT process. But you would not=20
> see that detail if the signal was very strong.
>
> I will not be able to start transmitting until 0200 UTC tonight, but=20
> will be happy to try QRSS3 again unless it bothers the other stations.=20
> As Alan advises, we may only have a night or two before conditions=20
> decline.
>
> John A.
>
>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre,

The picture looks normal to me. I have seen the same detail on other 
signals when viewed with a very slow FFT process. But you would not see 
that detail if the signal was very strong.

I will not be able to start transmitting until 0200 UTC tonight, but 
will be happy to try QRSS3 again unless it bothers the other stations. 
As Alan advises, we may only have a night or two before conditions decline.

John A.



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Hi John, good signals from you Joe and Jay last night. I could not copy the
chars at 30 sec slow but would probably have copied your QRSS3 at 10 secs.
Quite high noise again here.

The Dst has "spiked" upwards by 20nT which suggests the Coronal hole flows
are arriving. i doubt whther they are early enough to affect tonights
propagation appreciably but we may see some depression in conditions  on
13/14th

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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----- Original Message -----
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> I was running QRSS3. That's what it looks like on a screen that's
> running too slowly to resolve the characters.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG




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Hello John ,
Not speed does not change anything, just the frequency spectrum which is=20
broad,je never saw similar thing on QRSS3 (see the picture). This after=20
midday I will assemble a specific application QRSS3 for the next night=20
on Grabber II with another PC:=20
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm I hope that the conditions=20
will be good!.....

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
>> WD2XES 22:30 > sunrise + 1 hour ( Which is your mode? it is not QRSS3=20
>> (it is too broad in frequency )
>
> I was running QRSS3. That's what it looks like on a screen that's=20
> running too slowly to resolve the characters.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre,

> WD2XES 22:30 > sunrise + 1 hour ( Which is your mode? it is not QRSS3 
> (it is too broad in frequency )

I was running QRSS3. That's what it looks like on a screen that's 
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :
Very good conditions !
WD2XNS 23:40 > sunrise + 1 hour
WD2XES 22:30 > sunrise + 1 hour ( Which is your mode? it is not QRSS3 (it is too broad in 
frequency )
VO1NA  21:49 > 02:00 nil after

This morning still of the traces on the frequency of VE3OT, I superimposed his signal ( coming 
from KI0LE grabber ) on the signals there is coincidence in the timing!...

Low static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the captures of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



























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Hi Jim, Gary, LF.

I reckon that DFCW3 with a 5Hz spacing should be 5H00 F1B. How about QRSS3?
= 1H00 A1A maybe?

Wikipedia has a useful entry regarding emission codes :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_radio_emissions



73, Dave G3WCB

-----Original Message-----
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Hi Jim & LF,

Did a search on OFCOM website & found this reference emission codes.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/noperational/techni
cal/class_emissions_guide

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message -----
From: "james moritz" <j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk>

BTW - what are the correct emission codes for modes like PSK31 or Wolf, and
FSK / mFSK signals like DFCW and Jason?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Congrats to Mike and Joe!

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Hi all on the list !

Last night very good conditions
i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES
23:00>07:40

Low static level
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Captures are on :
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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I cant see it here yet Jay but I am using a very very low Marconi ....most
of it on the floor.

Alan

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> Seems CFH is clearing out a few spiders...
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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Hi Hartmut thanks for that information. I did wonder whether it was the
Russian transmit frequency which IS a good idea, but it would be better if
they would listen, if the frequency is clear at their end, in the 136.2
area. If that could be organised it would work well, but not I suppose if
the Russians want to try for N.America.( There would of course no be much
point in them using 137.777 then as the qrm on the other side would prevent
any copy.)

It is a difficult one but the band is big and we can fit many stations into
a small bandwidth. I cant imagine why they chose such an odd frequency which
just happens to be Joe's crystal. We may be at fault by using that number to
define the centre window for the grabbers in western Europe.  The FCC Part 5
136 stations clustered around Joe, because he was rock bound, when they
started up. I am sure if HRE would move down about 0.2 to 0.5Hz it would
clear his transmission. I dont think that would clash with Mitch. The other
station who was in that area was Laurence who is not active at present. It
would not be a problem here but is HRE is strong it might affect your copy
Hartmut.

Seriously it is great to have so much activity we start worrying about qrm
!! :-))

Best wishes de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi Alan,
>
> > he obviously doesnt read this reflector, can someone advise him
> > that that is not the right frequency to be heard by US stations. I hate
to
> > think of him wasting all that effort during good condx but to be on top
of
> > Joe as well is not good.
>
> I read on his website that he has a sked with Oleg, RX9BS. It seems
> all active russian stations moved into the T/A window for transmitting
> and listen there, too. I saw DL2HRE, PA3CPM and IK5ZPV trying to
> contact RA3YO, UA4WPF and RX9BS in the past week. All in the frequency
> range 137.775-137.779 kHz.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
>



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Why not post something on the grabbers to advise stations what they're 
intended for so those no on this list or other lists are aware?

Scott


Jean-Pierre M�r� wrote:
> Hello Hartmut and Alan ,
>
> It starts with m ' to irritate to remain on this frequency!!!! I gave 
> 2 Hz in more to the bottom in the "Grabber" so that  play they low 
> GGGRRRRRRR .......
>
> Hartmut Wolff a �crit :
>> Jean Pierre,
>>
>>  
>>> VE3OT (I think that are its traces that one sees under VO1NA)
>>> see pictures
>>>     
>>
>> that was DL2HRE transmitting now every evening in DFCW on 137.777
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>


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Zitat von Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>:

> Hi Hartmut, he obviously doesnt read this reflector, can someone advise him
> that that is not the right frequency to be heard by US stations. I hate to
> think of him wasting all that effort during good condx but to be on top of
> Joe as well is not good.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>

Hi Hartmut and Alan,
I advised him today late afternoon because he transmitted on 777 while I
tried a QSO with VO1NA last night.

he is not on this reflector but is interested in. so I told him how
to get here.

he will have an other QSO this evening on QRGs in the TA window because 
all his
russian partners are QSOing there.

it will be his last transmission on those QRGs he promised.

regards
Uwe/dj8wx





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Hello Hartmut and Alan ,

It starts with m ' to irritate to remain on this frequency!!!! I gave 2=20
Hz in more to the bottom in the "Grabber" so that  play they low=20
GGGRRRRRRR .......

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Jean Pierre,
>
>  =20
>> VE3OT (I think that are its traces that one sees under VO1NA)
>> see pictures
>>    =20
>
> that was DL2HRE transmitting now every evening in DFCW on 137.777
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hi Alan,

> he obviously doesnt read this reflector, can someone advise him
> that that is not the right frequency to be heard by US stations. I hate to
> think of him wasting all that effort during good condx but to be on top of
> Joe as well is not good.

I read on his website that he has a sked with Oleg, RX9BS. It seems
all active russian stations moved into the T/A window for transmitting
and listen there, too. I saw DL2HRE, PA3CPM and IK5ZPV trying to
contact RA3YO, UA4WPF and RX9BS in the past week. All in the frequency
range 137.775-137.779 kHz.

73
Hartmut



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Hi Hartmut, he obviously doesnt read this reflector, can someone advise him
that that is not the right frequency to be heard by US stations. I hate to
think of him wasting all that effort during good condx but to be on top of
Joe as well is not good.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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>
> Jean Pierre,
>
> > VE3OT (I think that are its traces that one sees under VO1NA)
> > see pictures
>
> that was DL2HRE transmitting now every evening in DFCW on 137.777
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>



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Jean Pierre,

> VE3OT (I think that are its traces that one sees under VO1NA)
> see pictures

that was DL2HRE transmitting now every evening in DFCW on 137.777

73
Hartmut
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS
VO1NA
VE3OT (I think that are its traces that one sees under VO1NA)
see pictures

Middle static level
Low noise level

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


























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Zitat von uwe-jannsen@versanet.de:

> Zitat von Jay Rusgrove <JRusgrove@comcast.net>:
>
>> Another glimpse of WX last night...noise picked up shortly 
>> thereafter limiting reception.
>>
>> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>>
>>
>
> Hi Jay,
> thanks for the report.
> going on from the discussion abt the Ofcom SRP the class of
> emission was 136KN1BFN on 136 317.968Hz.
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx - now ZOA
>
Correction:
1H00N1BFN
regards
Uwe/dj8wx





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Zitat von Jay Rusgrove <JRusgrove@comcast.net>:

> Another glimpse of WX last night...noise picked up shortly thereafter 
> limiting reception.
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>
>

Hi Jay,
thanks for the report.
going on from the discussion abt the Ofcom SRP the class of
emission was 136KN1BFN on 136 317.968Hz.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx - now ZOA





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Good copy last night of RX9BS and RA3YO 19:00-20:15 about 137.777 kHz.
DL2HRE was calling RX9BS but I saw no response.

A capture can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hi Alan,

I should have made it clearer in my first post.  I'm not going to
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Jay
I was tx on 136.316 at 0100 for a short time, any trace?
Mal/G3KEV

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  From: Jay Rusgrove=20
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  Mike

  Started seeing your signal a few minutes ago...

  http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html

  Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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After an epic struggle with my miniwhip I discovered that it likes a 
much higher input voltage then documented in the construction article... 

Running it at around 17V seems to clear up the intermod problem.

So the grabber is back up.
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/

73 Scott






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Hi Uwe,

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> > WX can be seen between the dot 120 N's on 137.777 kHz.
> Joe, does that mean there is a spurious emission on that frequency?

No... the N's were from my TX which was running last night. Unfortunately,
it seems that my signals are weaker than usual, as Alan has mentioned.
This is strange as the aerial current seems OK and conditions are good.

73
Joe


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Hi Jean-Pierre, Nicolas and Joe,
thanks for the reports. The ERP was abt 0.18W.

> WX can be seen between the dot 120 N's on 137.777 kHz.
Joe, does that mean there is a spurious emission on that frequency?

regards
Uwe/dj8wx






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Uwe and Group,

A good M  or weak O copy of WX on this side of the pond at the moment.
WX can be seen between the dot 120 N's on 137.777 kHz.  The temperature
is down (-13 deg C) and the aerial current is up to 1.2 amps.


73
Joe VO1NA

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> - WX - on 136318.983Hz in mode QRSS60. low power. the QRG is GPS disciplined:
> an opportunity for listeners on the other side of the pond to test their
> - Clicklock - equipment.
>
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx
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Good copy Uwe. See my capture:
_http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3549/dj8wxqrss60wn8.jpg_ 
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F4DTL Nicolas in JN18FP
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Uwe ,
Ok ! good now , are correct .
See picture
73 J-P afj

uwe-jannsen@t-online.de a =E9crit :
>
>
> Hello Uwe ,
> Good copy your signal in JN06HT ( see picture )
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>
> =20
> Sri, Jean-Pierre, with your screenshot you cought me fumbling at the=20
> EEPROM.
> but now  the signs should be OK.
> Thanks
> vy 73
> Uwe/dj8wx
>
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Hello Uwe ,<br />
Good copy your signal in JN06HT ( see picture )<br />
73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ<br />
<br />=A0 <br />Sri, Jean-Pierre, with your screenshot you cought me
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Hello Uwe ,
Good copy your signal in JN06HT ( see picture )
73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

uwe-jannsen@versanet.de a =E9crit :
> Hi all,
>
> - WX - on 136318.983Hz in mode QRSS60. low power. the QRG is GPS=20
> disciplined:
> an opportunity for listeners on the other side of the pond to test thei=
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> - Clicklock - equipment.
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> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx
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Hi all,

- WX - on 136318.983Hz in mode QRSS60. low power. the QRG is GPS disciplined:
an opportunity for listeners on the other side of the pond to test their
- Clicklock - equipment.

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

>
> Nothing here from Joe, VO1NA in the past 2 nights.
>
Hi Hartmut and Group,
VO1NA will be on 137.777 kHz tomorrow night.
73
Joe
>
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Send my report to early today. Latest visible sign of WD2XES about
10:50UTC. Usually after a geomagnetic disturbance I have no copy of
T/A signals after sunrise. So this late copy is a surprise.
Updated my website with the capture.

I copied VO1NA several times 11:00-14:00 UTC in the past years, so
datime T/A copy is possible. I remember some days with nearly a 24h
copy of the 70W QRSS120 signal. The poorest signal at these days was
about 15:00-17:00 UTC.

Nothing here from Joe, VO1NA in the past 2 nights.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Hartmut, Jean-Pierre

Thanks for the reports and continued operation of the grabbers. I'm surprised at reception 2 hours
after local sunrise! Can't remember if you have noticed this in past years or not.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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Hello Hartmut ,
I copy also XES XNS last night , I have just read on the page of Joe ,=20
that VO1NA would be QRV the next night!
73 qro J-P f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Again good signals from WD2XES and WD2XNS last night. Peaking not so
> strong as the previous night and there was a long deep fading period
> 02:30-04:10, but readable signs until about 09:00/09:30. Local sunrise
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> 73
> Hartmut
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Again good signals from WD2XES and WD2XNS last night. Peaking not so
strong as the previous night and there was a long deep fading period
02:30-04:10, but readable signs until about 09:00/09:30. Local sunrise
is about 07:00 UTC.


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http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Hello all ,

Good copy of WD2XES now !

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the capture but that is not my signal, my frequency is just a 
little higher at 136.3195 KHz.

Not sure who that signal belongs to but I saw it here between my words & it 
is also on DF6NM's grabber.

Please keep looking as I intend to increase power & dot length to qrss10 
later.

I am sending :    G4WGT TESTING

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


----- Original Message ----- 
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Hello Gary ,

Good  signal ( see capture )

73  Jean-Pierre    f1afj - jn06ht



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Hello Gary ,

Good  signal ( see capture )

73  Jean-Pierre    f1afj - jn06ht

Gary - G4WGT a =E9crit :
> Hi All,
>
> At the moment testing new (hopefully improved) antenna.
>
> 136.319 KHz, 200 watts dc in, antenna 1.4 Amps.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>
>

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Hi All,

At the moment testing new (hopefully improved) antenna.

136.319 KHz, 200 watts dc in, antenna 1.4 Amps.

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In my last message I said that I had heard DK8KW last night. This is 
of course rubbish. As far as I know, Geri is no longer transmitting 
on 136kHz. The callsign should have been DJ8WX.

Mike, G3XDV
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Ah! What I was really concerned with was whether the QRM level would be=
 noticeably different with the proposed enhanced modulation.

Or is there some way we could use the received signal to improve=
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73
John

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It looks as if they're adding an additional pulse after number eight (for a=
 slave) or nine (for a master).  Does anyone have any idea what this will=
 do to the transmitted spectrum, particularly around 136 and 87kHz?

73
John G3PAI/F5VLF

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On 04/01/2007 at 12:34 Reeves Paul wrote:

>Interesting to note that it is to be a   '.....complimentary.....'
>system!!
>I can only dread to think about the technical side of things, all those
>sidebands......
>Nit-picking mode off.
> 
>73s
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Mal -=20
=20
I wouldnt want to model too closely 137Khz against 160m from VY2 /KL7 (KL1!=
), or VE8 for that matter -   J will recall the interior of the Auroral ova=
l effects and the interesting times crossing the "tx boundary" on 80 and 16=
0m - I seem (blurry cos Im sure it was around 81/82 to remember receiving G=
3KEV during disturbed times from VE8 @ Alert NWT and shouting my little 100=
w heart out...this one way waveguide was a little painful.
=20
Mal glad you made the Vy2 QSO. I missed who your 137 Khz rx station in the =
Boston area was the other day?
=20
Sanya - China
=20
Im still blitzed on rx with the dimmers - Ive calculated we have at least 1=
238 dimmers within 100 metres of this location. Every room has 2 for a star=
t. If your interested in LF radio dont stay at the Holiday Inn, Sanya Bay.
=20
I have another few days here but given the 9++ noiz Im probably going to bi=
n LF reception and concentrate on the tan, or moreover  practice swatting b=
ugs, and ducking  and diving avoiding out of control fireworks.
=20
 The good news or otherwise dependant on how you look at it is I (we -Sheri=
 and I) will be leaving China in about 50 days and looking for a new QTH in=
 Singapore for about 18 months - LF Cross band is a possibility from there =
and Ill be qrv on HF as a 9V1 by hook or crook as against here (there being=
 Shanghai) and a some of the other qth's recently.
=20
J - Ill take the mooses. We miss KL7 awfully and seeing as we have two sons=
/wifes/potential  grandchildren - living there there seems to be a high pro=
bability we will end up buying something up  - thats before I get too creak=
y - Weve eyed up a piece of land where I did some LF reception a couple of =
Christmas' ago and got reasonable sigs from VE7 during horrible conditions.
=20
Laurence OK48 Hainan Island=20
=20
=20
=20
> From: g3kev.ham@virgin.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, =
18 Feb 2007 18:34:25 +0000> Subject: Re: LF: VY1JA Beacon> > J> I worked VY=
2TT last nite on 160m cw he was 579 good signal.Thought you might> like to =
know sigs are arriving here, given the right circumstances 137 is a> possib=
ility.> > ----- Original Message -----> From: "J Allen" <vy1ja@northwestel.=
net>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4=
:26 AM> Subject: RE: LF: VY1JA Beacon> > > > Joe,> >> > Thanks for watching=
, but it looks like the signal is having a hard time> even> > getting out t=
o the south into Scott's Grabber. I do not know of anyone> who> > is really=
 receiving the signal yet. Wait until near midnight local time> and> > let'=
s see what happens.> >> > What is the Aurora doing tonight? Is the index st=
ill up at 7.0? If it> is,> > we can easily understand a signal being kept u=
nder Aurora's halo.> >> > J.> >> >> >> >=20
_________________________________________________________________
Life is complicated.=A0 Sharing yours shouldn=92t be.=A0 Meet Muse.=20
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Mal - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I wouldnt want to model too closely 137Khz&nbsp;against 160m from VY2 /KL7 =
(KL1!), or VE8 for that&nbsp;matter - &nbsp; J will recall the interior of =
the Auroral oval effects and the interesting times crossing the "tx boundar=
y" on 80 and 160m&nbsp;- I seem (blurry cos Im sure it was around 81/82&nbs=
p;to remember receiving G3KEV during disturbed times from VE8 @ Alert NWT a=
nd shouting my little 100w heart out...this one way waveguide was a little =
painful.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Mal glad you made the Vy2 QSO. I missed who your 137 Khz rx station in the =
Boston area was the other day?<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Sanya - China<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im still blitzed on rx with the dimmers - Ive calculated we have at least 1=
238 dimmers within 100 metres of this location. Every room has 2 for a star=
t. If your interested in LF radio dont stay at the Holiday Inn, Sanya Bay.<=
BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
I have another few days here but given the 9++ noiz Im probably going to bi=
n LF reception and concentrate on the tan, or moreover&nbsp;&nbsp;practice =
swatting bugs, and ducking&nbsp; and diving avoiding out of control firewor=
ks.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;The good news or otherwise dependant on how you look at it is I (we -=
Sheri and I) will be leaving China in about 50 days and looking for a new Q=
TH in Singapore for about 18 months - LF Cross band is a possibility from t=
here and Ill be qrv on HF as a&nbsp;9V1&nbsp;by hook or crook&nbsp;as again=
st here (there being Shanghai) and a&nbsp;some of the other qth's recently.=
<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
J - Ill take the mooses. We miss KL7 awfully and seeing as we have two sons=
/wifes/potential&nbsp; grandchildren - living there there seems to be a hig=
h probability we will end up buying something up&nbsp; - thats before I get=
 too creaky - Weve eyed up a piece of land where I did some LF reception a =
couple of Christmas' ago and got reasonable sigs from VE7 during horrible c=
onditions.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence OK48 Hainan Island <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR><BR>&gt; From: g3kev.ham@virgin.net<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org<BR>&gt; Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:34:25 +0000<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF=
: VY1JA Beacon<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; J<BR>&gt; I worked VY2TT last nite on 160m =
cw he was 579 good signal.Thought you might<BR>&gt; like to know sigs are a=
rriving here, given the right circumstances 137 is a<BR>&gt; possibility.<B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "J Allen" &lt;vy=
1ja@northwestel.net&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;<BR=
>&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:26 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: LF: VY1J=
A Beacon<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Joe,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Than=
ks for watching, but it looks like the signal is having a hard time<BR>&gt;=
 even<BR>&gt; &gt; getting out to the south into Scott's Grabber. I do not =
know of anyone<BR>&gt; who<BR>&gt; &gt; is really receiving the signal yet.=
 Wait until near midnight local time<BR>&gt; and<BR>&gt; &gt; let's see wha=
t happens.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; What is the Aurora doing tonight? Is t=
he index still up at 7.0? If it<BR>&gt; is,<BR>&gt; &gt; we can easily unde=
rstand a signal being kept under Aurora's halo.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; J=
.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR><br /><hr=
 />Life is complicated.=A0 Sharing yours shouldn=92t be. <a href=3D'http://=
muse.live.com?source=3Dwlmailtag&loc=3Dus ' target=3D'_new'>Meet your Muse.=
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Best peak after 0700 (dawn) when I saw a weak "NA" and this very fine "XES".
In fact XES was there all night but this was the best for ages.

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Best peak after 0700 (dawn) when I saw a weak &quot;NA&quot; and this very fine &quot;XES&quot;.<br>In fact XES was there all night but this was the best for ages.<br><br>Dave &#39;YXM<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hi Dick,

about 0.4 =C2=B5V/m here, quite readable in the Budapest QRM. Frequency=20
drifting upward slightly, 136319.02 Hz now at 21 UT.

73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
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Thema: LF: pa4vhf beaconing 136318.75--QRSS60

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Power 140W DC input into 6m vertical with topload in backyard.
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QRV since 17ut until 20ut with QRSS 30, now at QRSS60 on 136,318.75kHz

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Thank-you Hartmut,
And also Dave, Jean-Pierre, Alan.  The Decca is runnung
on 1 PA and the aerial current is 2.1 amps.
I'll be on again tonight.  NA's dot 60 every ~half hour
starting 2130 utc.

Last night an X (DJ8WX?) was seen in QRM from the
home brew PSU for the amp.  There's now  relay
in the mains lead to shut down the PSU while
RX.

73 to all
Joe


On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Joe,
>
> > Transmitting N's at QRSS120 every 64 minutes.
>
> solid copy of the "N"s here. Nice to see you back on 137 kHz.
>
>
> A capture can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
>
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
>
>


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Joe,

> Transmitting N's at QRSS120 every 64 minutes.

solid copy of the "N"s here. Nice to see you back on 137 kHz.


A capture can be seen here:

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73
Hartmut
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Frank, Uwe and group,

Receiving a very clear WX and very strong RRF at the moment.
Transmitting N's at QRSS120 every 64 minutes.

73
Joe



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Hello all ,


I copy of WD2XNS at 22:30
Nothing here for WD2XKO

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Added captures of VO1NA, WD2XES, RX9BS, UA4WPF, RA3YO, F4DTL, F5WK,
S57A and IK5WPF to my website.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
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Good copy of RA3YO in DFCW60 now.

'73 IK5ZPV

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Good copy of RA3YO in DFCW60 now.<br><br>&#39;73 IK5ZPV<br clear="all"><br>

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Hi Michel

DFCW coming through to IO91 clearly using IC7400 and inverted L for 80m.
Thanks for a new one!
Mike

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:07:54 +0100, Michel F5WK wrote
> Hi,
> 
>   Tonight, starting at 7:30 TU, I will be active in QRSS and DFCW 
> near the  frequency of 137700 with 350 watts RF and a 12 m T antenna.
> 
>   Reports are welcome.
> 
>   73 de Michel f5wk  JN18HP
> --



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Hi,

  Tonight, starting at 7:30 TU, I will be active in QRSS and DFCW near the
  frequency of 137700 with 350 watts RF and a 12 m T antenna.

  Reports are welcome.

  73 de Michel f5wk  JN18HP
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Hi All
Lots of loud dashes all weekend on 137.7 all workable on CW but nil hrd on
CW although I called CQ many times.

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Hello Dick ,

Your Signal are small ( only trace ) see attachment .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj  in JN06HT

Dick a =E9crit :
> I noticed the drift also....don't know why this happens.....
> =20
> I will try to leave the beacon all night.....

--=20
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I noticed the drift also....don't know why this happens.....

I will try to leave the beacon all night.....
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and via other larger pond too...
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Valerio

Yes...I'm watching from the 'other side'.

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> I'm transmitting, there is somebody on the other side ?
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Hello all,

QSL's for LX/PA6Z will send as soon as possible. I will write and sign =
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But, be patient, as we are rather busy now, it can take some more =
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I will operate the 160m station at PA6Z this weekend during the PACC =
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73

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Hello LFers,

Despite some good captures and reports from receive sites
close to the east coast of Canada and the U.S., nothing was
seen further inland.  As long as U.K. and European stations
are active, I'll be watching for them from the east shore of
Lake Huron.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

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Dear LF Group,

It's good to have the reports again.  Thank-you Jean-Pierre
(both or you), Hartmut and Alan, G3NYK.  I don't think there
is a problem with the antenna -- its just a matter of keeping
the daft thing in tune with the wild temperature fluctuations
about the freezing point here lately.

The original Class E 100 watt TX puts 1 amp of antenna
current to a 100m wire about 10m high.  The DECCA is in the
shed.  I was not successful in negotiating with m'lady a home
for it in our new rec room unfortunately.  Some QRO is
expected when the 220V panel in the shed is wired.

73 to all
Joe VO1NA

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:

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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello all ,

Good copy of VO1NA now !

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Hello Dick,weak signal in JN18FP.  
Best regards F4DTL Nicolas
 
See my capture:
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Many Thanks.

	EA4BVZ
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]En nombre de Johan Bodin
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Asunto: LF: New version of Tina-TI circuit simulator


Hi,

version 7 of the free circuit simulation program "Tina-TI"
was released a few days ago:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tina-ti.html

This version has a lot more SPICE models than the previous
version and it has no limit on circuit size!

73
Johan SM6LKM




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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Dave Pick (whether he knows it or not...good sigs 
on his screen last night), Laurence, Nicolas and Hartmut for the nice 
reports. There was a lot of deep fading early, but the XES and XNS 
signals really picked up in the late night and early morning.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES



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Very good copy of XES last night in JN18FP.
10 meters vertical antenna with loading coil,receiver is a IC7400.
I wait VO1NA because never seen.
 
Best regards from F4DTL Nicolas.

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Hi all on the list !

Last night,return of the good conditions !
i copy on the grabber :

XD2XES (Good)
WD2XNS (Good)
VO1NA (trace only)

Low static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


























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He is on right now. Off at sunrise in Colorado USA about 1400z. =
w0rw@aol.com<mailto:w0rw@aol.com> is his address that he posts on the =
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Mike
WE0H

  From: Mike M


  Mike,
  do you know the schedule for the RW transmissions?
  Mike ZL4OL

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    I think most are listening to 480kc tonight for W0RW's FSK signal. =
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Ill have the Shanghai grabber up tonight centered 136.318 for Europe, and p=
re US dawn in the 137.779 window, and interbetweenies for 500Khz if I can f=
igure out where to listen this evenings lottery.
=20
The Chinese internet is now "ok" having been awful since Christmas, so the =
FTP load to the USA seems to be working now (fingers crossed)-=20
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Laurence
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http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg
R75 probe Pudong Shanghai PM01SF



> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:02:52 +0100> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr> To: rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Subject: Re: LF: TA european transmissions> > He=
llo Valerio ,> Good signal on 319.5 ( Strange handling ! )> see picture> 73=
 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ JN06HT> > valerio gabbani a =E9crit :> > Hello,> > I=
'm transmitting ZPV on about 136319.5 kHz now (10:34z).> > I started around=
 9:34z transmitting an unmodulated carrier.> > Can anyone see something on =
the other pound ?> > It is not safe to work my TX unmanned, so i will stop =
around 00:00z> >> > '73> > -- > > IK5ZPV> > -- > Visitez mon site radioamat=
eur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/> Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , g=
aranti sans virus connu>=20
_________________________________________________________________
Live Search: New search found
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<body><BR>Ill have the Shanghai grabber up tonight centered 136.318 for Eur=
ope, and pre US dawn in the 137.779 window, and interbetweenies for 500Khz =
if I can figure out where to listen this evenings lottery.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
The Chinese internet is now "ok" having been awful since Christmas, so the =
FTP load to the USA seems to be working&nbsp;now (fingers crossed)- <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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R75 probe Pudong Shanghai&nbsp;PM01SF<BR><BR><BR><BR>

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&gt; Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:02:52 +0100<BR>&gt; From: jpm.f1afj@online.f=
r<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: TA euro=
pean transmissions<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hello Valerio ,<BR>&gt; Good signal on =
319.5 ( Strange handling ! )<BR>&gt; see picture<BR>&gt; 73 qro Jean-Pierre=
 F1AFJ JN06HT<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; valerio gabbani a =E9crit :<BR>&gt; &gt; Hel=
lo,<BR>&gt; &gt; I'm transmitting ZPV on about 136319.5 kHz now (10:34z).<B=
R>&gt; &gt; I started around 9:34z transmitting an unmodulated carrier.<BR>=
&gt; &gt; Can anyone see something on the other pound ?<BR>&gt; &gt; It is =
not safe to work my TX unmanned, so i will stop around 00:00z<BR>&gt; &gt;<=
BR>&gt; &gt; '73<BR>&gt; &gt; -- <BR>&gt; &gt; IK5ZPV<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -- <=
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Hello LFers,

Not getting anything near as solid as the east coast boys,
but I think there's a hint of a signal where it should be.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
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Joe,

The Aurora index is down to 4.0 and while that is much better than
yesterday, it still means decreased East-West propagation to this effective
latitude.  It is unlikely, even with the sunrise or sunset boost to get the
signal across the country with low power under these conditions.  

Perhaps, when the propagation is better, and the amp is complete and in
service, we will finally have a signal crossing.

Again, thanks for trying.  One of these days, I will do the QSX on 136 you
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Hello all ,


Good copy of VO1NA  now !
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Hello Dick,
very impressed about reports for your PA4VHF beacon with 140W and 6m =
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Hi Frank and LF,

your signal on 136320.7 reads mostly between 5 to 9 =C2=B5V/m here on the=20
grabber - roughly an S-unit less than with the balloon a couple of=20
weeks ago. Tonight there is a remarkle amout of QSB and pronounced=20
colour variations. I suspect these DF errors result from the=20
directivity of the receive loops  being affected by the polarisation of=20
high angle skywaves. These are perhaps emphasized a bit by the large=20
horizontal current component in your transmit antenna.

There's also a very nice signal from IK5ZPV,  1 to 2 =C2=B5V/m on 136318.38.=
=20
Between 20:27 and 20:42, I noted another weaker trace (perhaps RA3YO=20
?), 0.6 =C2=B5V/m on 136319.8 Hz.

Good luck to all
Markus, DF6NM


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
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Verschickt: Sa., 3.Feb.2007, 21:32
Thema: LF: Test PE1RRF.

Hi Mike, Ko, Brian and Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the reception reports.
Im testing my longwire antenna from a friend his location.
We made a long wire today from 250 meters long
what starts at 20 meters high and ends about 4 meters above the ground.=20
Hanging
up in the direction North-South, and the airial currend is now  2.75 A.=20
We want
to run it to tomorrow morning.
73
Frank.






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Hi John,

That is just about were I have captured Franks signal, see previous post. 
What you are seeing is very possibly PE1RRF.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


> I am seeing traces of a signal on 136320.70 a half hour before my local 
> sunset. That is close to your frequency on the DF6NM grabber.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG FN42ch


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Frank,

I am seeing traces of a signal on 136320.70 a half hour before my local 
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Frank ,
Here the capture of your super signal in attachment
73 J-P f1afj

info@f-dijkshoorn.speedlinq.nl a =E9crit :
> Hi Mike, Ko, Brian and Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the reception reports.
> Im testing my longwire antenna from a friend his location.
> We made a long wire today from 250 meters long
> what starts at 20 meters high and ends about 4 meters above the ground.=
 Hanging up in the direction North-South, and the airial currend is now  =
2.75 A. We want to run it to tomorrow morning.
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Hi Mike, Ko, Brian and Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the reception reports.
Im testing my longwire antenna from a friend his location.
We made a long wire today from 250 meters long
what starts at 20 meters high and ends about 4 meters above the ground. Hanging up in the direction North-South, and the airial currend is now  2.75 A. We want to run it to tomorrow morning.
73
Frank.





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LF Group,

Is anyone willing to propose a voluntary bandplan for the UK 501 kHz
allocation? We could follow the same sort of scheme that is followed on 137
kHz, with separate areas for CW, digital and QRSS/DFCW modes. The 3kHz
available is broadly similar to the 137 kHz allocation, and won't be enough
to permit much by way of "broadband" operation (MCW, DSB-AM, SSB, or even
drifty CW etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John W Gould
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Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
available for 12 months from 1st March. See

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200
70221

and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager







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Hi all,

Many thanks for the great response you give on our 250 Meters longwire 
experiment we did in the past weekend.
All your reports are very helpfull and we hope after some improveents to 
come back on the air on friday evening 9 feb.

Jay to answer your question,
For this experiment we used 1.2 MM. thick aluminium welding wire. (with 5% 
magnesium)
It is reasonable strong, cheap and very light. Perfect to use for this kind 
of temporaly experiments.
It bridges easily without any support pole 230 Meters, hanging between a 20 
Meters high airial tower and ended at a tree on 4 Meters above the ground.
With the vertical part makes it a total of 250 Meters.
The inpendance at the loading coil without a transformer or a tap is less 
than 50 Ohm.
We work on it to get a bigger space than the 2.5 Meters between the vertcal 
wire and the tower.

Regards Frank.
Experimental station PE1RRF.

Ps. I hope that this mail comes true, this is almost the same mail that I 
send on sunday, it is lost somewhere.



----- Original Message ----- 
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> Frank, TA enthusiasts
>
> A couple captures from last night here.
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2007.html
>
> Please give more details on the experimental antenna.
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>
> 




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Thanks to all for last reports,
This evening I start at 9:24z untill about 23:00z.
My power is about 600 W.

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Thanks to all for last reports,<br>This evening I start at 9:24z untill about 23:00z.<br>My power is about 600 W. <br clear="all"><br>&#39;73 IK5ZPV<br><br>

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Hello Johan ,
Thank you for the info , good software !
73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Johan Bodin a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi,
>
> version 7 of the free circuit simulation program "Tina-TI"
> was released a few days ago:
>
> http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tina-ti.html
>
> This version has a lot more SPICE models than the previous
> version and it has no limit on circuit size!
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
>
>

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Hi,

version 7 of the free circuit simulation program "Tina-TI"
was released a few days ago:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tina-ti.html

This version has a lot more SPICE models than the previous
version and it has no limit on circuit size!

73
Johan SM6LKM


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I have been off the air since the storms two and a half weeks ago. 
The masts sufferred no damage but one of my top wires tangled in the 
end of a tree branch. Although the branch end was only the thickness 
of my little finger, it was impossible to separate it from the wire. 
Dislodging it was made even more difficult by my antenna being 
designed to be very flexible with plenty of elastic (bungy) that 
prevented me from giving the wire a really good pull.

It was finally dislodged with a combination of brute force and 
weakening the branch by applying RF volts to burn it! This has taken 
two weeks.

I still need to lower my masts (impossible up to now), check for 
damage and straighten some bending cause by the brute force, but I 
should be fully operational and beaconing for DX within a few days.

Mike, G3XDV
http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk



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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES
02:50>07:45 (visible 1:15 after the sunrise)

Middle static level
Middle noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


























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Hi All
Tnx for all the reports on 136.318 khz qrs 30 a few nights ago.
I am active most days on the band on CW calling CQ but I seem to be the only
one about. Has everyone deserted the band around EU.
I did see a qrs signal a few nights ago on FSK but it was brief and I did
not get an ID. The signal was good O copy on both the vertical and the loop

73 de Mal/G3KEV




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Mike

What is the antenna setup and transmitter power? Apologies if you mentioned this earlier and I
missed it.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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Jay and others,

Thanks for the reports from W, VO and various Eu. This was my most 
successful test. Good antenna current as temperature below freezing 
(current gradually increased by 300mA during the day as the tree sap 
retreated).

Looks like conditions were good judging by W3EEE's DCF39 plot - in 
fact they were even better the previous night.

Will announce next beacon period later today.

Mike, G3XDV
http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk
=====================

> Nice copy of G3XDV last night. Details and additional captures here: 
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2007.html 
> 
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS





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Frank, TA enthusiasts

A couple captures from last night here. 

http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2007.html 

Please give more details on the experimental antenna.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Good signals now from SM6BHZ and AG
Is anybody watching on the other side of the pond ?
73 Laurie

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Good signals now from SM6BHZ and AG<br>
Is anybody watching on the other side of the pond ?<br>
73 Laurie<br>

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Hello all ,

WD2XES starting now in QRSS3 !

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Mike

Good luck with the repairs. Will keep an eye open for you.

Very little EU > US TA activity this year compared to previous ones. Condx have been slow to improve
since the December solar activity.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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> I have been off the air since the storms two and a half weeks ago.
> The masts sufferred no damage but one of my top wires tangled in the
> end of a tree branch. Although the branch end was only the thickness
> of my little finger, it was impossible to separate it from the wire.
> Dislodging it was made even more difficult by my antenna being
> designed to be very flexible with plenty of elastic (bungy) that
> prevented me from giving the wire a really good pull.
>
> It was finally dislodged with a combination of brute force and
> weakening the branch by applying RF volts to burn it! This has taken
> two weeks.
>
> I still need to lower my masts (impossible up to now), check for
> damage and straighten some bending cause by the brute force, but I
> should be fully operational and beaconing for DX within a few days.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk
>
>



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Not that it will make much difference when the Auroral index is 5.0 and 
rising, but I should have said VY1JA is at QRSS30.

J. 




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Hello Group,

The VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4.  

Reports and captures appreciated.

J.
VY1JA
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Dear friends,
          DI2AG beacon is on air with 2W ERP in QRSS10. QRG 505,090. As =
my antenna has only an efficiency of a little more than 1% I have to =
generate nearly 200watts of HF, not a sufficient job, hi.
73    Walter  DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
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Hi all,

I have start beacon on 505,100 kHz Mode QRSS-10 Power 20 W ERP Locator 
JO57WQ

Reports are welcome.

73 de Gus SM6BHZ


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I beaconed until about 2330 when I switched to receive for a sked 
with Joe, VO1NA. Unfortunately I could not read him. QRN bad, 
probably due to incoming snow here. 

No beacon tonight as parts of the loading coil are under 5in of snow.

Mike
====

> Weak copy of DV (G3XDV) beginning approximately 2215Z. Signal remained
> weak copy until late evening shut down.
> 
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
> 
> 





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TA enthusiasts, Mike

Weak copy of DV (G3XDV) beginning approximately 2215Z. Signal remained weak copy until late evening
shut down.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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RX9BS- good copy on df6nm graber

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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Hi, Dave

The LF reflector will let you attach small files up to about 12-16k, so you
can post small screenshots.

I've attached a screenshot of G3XIZ transmitting in DFCW3 mode taken just
now on 137,695 kHz, captured with "Argo"

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Thanks for that info Dave
I do not have a website so cannot post screengrabs.
Something for the future
73
dave G8SZX


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Mal

Sorry, but the grabber was monitoring another frequency range at that =
time period since DV had gone QRT. Will be happy to look for your signal =
anytime - might be best if you let me know in advance so I can make sure =
the setup is on 136318.

Jay W1VD /  WD2XNS

----- Original Message -----=20
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  Jay
  I was tx on 136.316 at 0100 for a short time, any trace?
  Mal/G3KEV

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    Mike

    Started seeing your signal a few minutes ago...

    http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html

    Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry, but the grabber was monitoring =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was tx on 136.316 at 0100 for a =
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Hello LFers,

I'll have my loop aimed at Europe/UK over the weekend
and be watching the 136.320 TA window for activity.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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EN93dr

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I am beaconing with a short call "DV" from now and will be active 
until the small hours of the morning. Freq 136.3181kHz. QRSS30. The 
arrival of snow tonight is likely to end the activity.

Many thanks to the inland Canadians who watched last night. Even a 
Nil report is useful.

Mike, G3XDV
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Hello Walter,

good to see you back. Your CW audible. I also copied very strong SM6BHZ.

see picture: http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DI2AG=5F505=5F140207.jpg

vy73

Marco

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> Dear Dave,
>=20
>           DI2AG is operating on 505.090KHz with 2W ERP, sending AG AG AG=
........... in QRSS10.
>=20
> 73    Walter
>=20
> =20
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> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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> =20
> Hi Walter,
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Glad to hear from you again this season... Will you be transmitting toni=
ght=3F=3F  QRSS10=3F=3F
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Thanks from Dave WD2XSH/17
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> =20
> From: Walter Staubach=20
> =20
> To: The email list for the ARRL 600 Meter Experimental License Group=20
> =20
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:50 AM
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> Subject: Re: [500kc] SM6BHZ
> =20
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> =20
> Dear Gus, dear Dave,
> =20
>            congrats with the big signal. What was your ERP, Gus=3F
> =20
> I was on 505.08 last nights, but that cannot be seen on your screen, Dav=
e. So please let me take the 505.090, that would be the 591.5 on your scre=
en. Maybe we have a chance with my 2W ERP.
> =20
> 73    Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF
> =20
> =20
>  =20




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Dear Dave,
          DI2AG is operating on 505.090KHz with 2W ERP, sending AG AG =
AG........... in QRSS10.
73    Walter

  -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
  Von: dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>
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<500kc@500kc.com>
  Datum: Dienstag, 13. Februar 2007 16:45
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  Hi Walter,

  Glad to hear from you again this season... Will you be transmitting =
tonight??  QRSS10??

  Thanks from Dave WD2XSH/17


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Walter Staubach=20
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    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:50 AM
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    Dear Gus, dear Dave,
               congrats with the big signal. What was your ERP, Gus?
    I was on 505.08 last nights, but that cannot be seen on your screen, =
Dave. So please let me take the 505.090, that would be the 591.5 on your =
screen. Maybe we have a chance with my 2W ERP.
    73    Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>73&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Glad to hear from you again =
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  <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks from Dave=20
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I too looked for this last night and can confirm Mike isn't making
it into central Ontario.  There was a weak trace visible but I was
unable to see any part of his callsign.  QTH here is over 1000 Km
inland from Halifax and J.B. is even further west.  I'll try again
tonight if you're on, Mike.

73, Bill VE2IQ

At 08:15 AM 2/7/2007, J.B. wrote:

>Despite some good captures and reports from receive sites
>close to the east coast of Canada and the U.S., nothing was
>seen further inland.  As long as U.K. and European stations
>are active, I'll be watching for them from the east shore of
>Lake Huron.
>
>73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL



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Thanks for that info Dave
I do not have a website so cannot post screengrabs.
Something for the future
73
dave G8SZX

Dave G3WCB wrote:
> Hi, Dave.
>
> Uwe is DJ8WX in JO48SV. This is his homepage.
> http://home.versanet.de/~uwe-jannsen/
>
>
> Also, Marcus DF6NM runs a "grabber" which is a very useful monitor of band
> activity.
>
>
> http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (Near Windsor)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of david towers
> Sent: 11 February 2007 10:48
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>
>
> Hi all
> seems I copied them both at 00:20hs 11/02/2007
> I do not know the full callsign of UWE sending WZ
> Would someone please supply the information?
> SDR-14 Datong AD370 active dipole vertical polarisation.
> Signals identified with Spectrum Lab as sdr-14 display did not allow ID
> among the band noise.
> dave G8SZX Leicester UK  IO 92 jp
>
> F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
>   
>> Good copy Valerio and Uwe this night...
>>
>> See my screen capture:
>> _http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1110/balisesdj8wxik5zpvqrss6ci3.jpg_
>> (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1110/balisesdj8wxik5zpvqrss6ci3.jpg)
>>
>> 73 de F4DTL Nicolas in  JN18FP
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Hi, Dave.

Uwe is DJ8WX in JO48SV. This is his homepage.
http://home.versanet.de/~uwe-jannsen/


Also, Marcus DF6NM runs a "grabber" which is a very useful monitor of band
activity.


http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (Near Windsor)



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Hi all
seems I copied them both at 00:20hs 11/02/2007
I do not know the full callsign of UWE sending WZ
Would someone please supply the information?
SDR-14 Datong AD370 active dipole vertical polarisation.
Signals identified with Spectrum Lab as sdr-14 display did not allow ID
among the band noise.
dave G8SZX Leicester UK  IO 92 jp

F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> Good copy Valerio and Uwe this night...
>
> See my screen capture:
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> 73 de F4DTL Nicolas in  JN18FP
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I had my 316 window and the volume turned up overnight but nil seen/heard. =
Will leave it on again together with a second received looking for Gus on 5=
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Budapest was CW audible but DCF39 wasnt; about 15dB beneath what would be d=
etectable, so not too hot over the path.
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> From: weazle@hurontel.on.ca> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Mon,=
 12 Feb 2007 23:43:13 +0000> Subject: LF: Re: TR 136> > Hi Hamilton, LFers,=
> > I'll be watching for any TA activity coming our way tonite,> so pour th=
e power on and see if you can make it inland> about 500 miles! Last year I =
captured CT1DRP several> times, so it can be done.> > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE=
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<body>I had my 316 window and the volume turned up overnight but nil seen/h=
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Budapest was CW audible but DCF39 wasnt; about 15dB beneath what would be d=
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2007/2/18, valerio gabbani <valeriogabbani@gmail.com>:
>
> I will try again on 136.819 this time starting around 4:00 UTC of 19/2
>
>
> '73 IK5ZPV




Sorry i mean 136.319 kHz

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/2/18, valerio gabbani &lt;<a href="mailto:valeriogabbani@gmail.com">valeriogabbani@gmail.com</a>&gt;:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I will try again on 136.819 this time starting around 4:00 UTC of 19/2<br clear="all"><br><br>&#39;73 IK5ZPV
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>Sorry i mean 136.319 kHz

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Dear JB, LF Group,

The capacitance (per metre) of a transmission line is:

C = 1/(Zo.Vf.c)

Where Zo is characteristic impedance in ohms, Vf is the velocity factor,
which basically depends on the insulation, and c is  the speed of light (3 x
10^8 m/s). For 450ohm ladder line, velocity factor seems  to be around 0.9,
and  the above formula works out to 8.23pF/m, or as Peter says, 2.5pF per
foot.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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> Hello Lowfers & LFers,
>
> Does anyone on the lists happen to know the approximate
> capacity per foot of 450 ohm windowed poly ladderline?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
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Hello all ,
Good copy of WD2XNS in JN18FP.
Vertical antenna and IC7400.
 
_http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4558/wd2xns2kc0.jpg_ 
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Hello all ,

Good copy of WD2XNS now !

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 qro , good night , i go to horizontal position !

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Hallo Marco,

Zur zeit benutze ich ein T-antenne.
Dass horizontale teil besteht aus 4 parallele drahte je 7m lang und etwa =
40-50cm aus ein ander.
Dass horizontal teil hangt auf etwa 7m uber den grund.
In der mitte sind die 4 drahte mit ein ander verbunden, und von dort aus =
geht ein einzele draht vertikal nach unten nach dem antennespul.

Eine andere sch=F6ne l=F6sung ist eine 'spiral topoaded vertical' wie =
von EI0CF beschrieben im internet, und wie ich letztes jahr beim
LX/PA6Z expedition benutzt habe.
Bilder sind auf die website www.pa6z.nl zu finden u.a unter =
'projects'und 136kHz.

Auf ON7YD's website ist diese antenne auch beschrieben.

Viel Erfolg auf 136kHz!

73

Dick, PA4VHF


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Dick,
  very impressed about reports for your PA4VHF beacon with 140W and 6m =
Vertical.=20
  This looks like a possible setup for my small garden.
  Please is it possible to get more details of your antenna and how you =
do matching?

  many thanks
  vy73
  Marco
  DD7PC

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<DIV>LX/PA6Z expedition benutzt habe.</DIV>
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finden u.a unter 'projects'und 136kHz.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Auf ON7YD's website ist diese antenne auch beschrieben.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Viel Erfolg auf 136kHz!</DIV>
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS (Very good signal , fadeout one hour after sunrise)
WD2XES (Very good signal , fadeout one hour after sunrise)
VO1NA (Small signal just readable !)

High static level
Middle noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
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Hi all,
at the output of my LF TX the phase of V and A looked nice,
both clean sines and in phase until I lengthened the top wires from 180m to
200m.
the system is in resonance, the phase OK. but the form of the A sine is 
chaotic:
pse see atachment.

my question, what is wrong?

regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Hi Joe and Mike,

very nice QSO going on there!

XDV, WX and ZPV were all about 2 to 3 =C2=B5V/m here, NA 0.2 to 0.4=C2=B5V/m=
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Captured NA and XES on 137 kHz last night. Captures can be seen here:
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On 505.2525 kHz captured WD2XSH/17 in QRSS10. Captures can be seen
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For 500kHz I used a modified Softrock v.6.2 Lite. Amazing little kit.

73
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Hi Jean=Pierre and Hartmut and Dave,

The grabber is very useful, Jean Pierre.  I was suspicious of a
problem with the exciter and your grabber confirmed this, leading
to it being repaired.

Thanks also to Dave and Hartmut for their reports of the signals.
There would be little point in transmitting without having
well equipped receiving stations and skilled operators.

73
Joe



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Hi Joe and LF fers !

I raised the question to know which utility had my Grabber? here an=20
answer, happy of knowing that it was used to Joe to control his TX.

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Joe Craig a =E9crit :
> Dear LF Group,
>
> An intermittent connection was found in the exciter that caused
> erratic operation.  Some strange keying could be seen on the
> F1AFJ grabber and there were instances when the Decca was quite
> idle when it should have been keyed.  After a small amount of
> colourful language, the bad connection was found and fixed.
>
> Please accept my apologies for the erratic operation.
> NA will be on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz starting
> 2130 25 Feb.
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> 73
> Joe
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Dear LF Group,

An intermittent connection was found in the exciter that caused
erratic operation.  Some strange keying could be seen on the
F1AFJ grabber and there were instances when the Decca was quite
idle when it should have been keyed.  After a small amount of
colourful language, the bad connection was found and fixed.

Please accept my apologies for the erratic operation.
NA will be on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz starting
2130 25 Feb.

73
Joe



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Dear John, LF,

2.000 and 4.000 MHz crystals are commonly available, so it probably be
possible to "rubberize" them into the bottom end of the allocation, so maybe
a QRSS/DFCW spot at 501.500 might be appropriate. I'll do some tests on some
RS components crystals that I have, and report back.

DDS is the way to go for full flexibility....which type are you building?

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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Amateurs


I'm busy building a DDS, but if that fails to work in a sensible timescale
I'll need to be xtal controlled, so an agreement where we might cluster for
QRSS/DFCW might be worthwhile.  This might also be helpful for others.  Are
there any obvious frequencies that are divides from standard crystals?

73 John, G3WKL

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LF Group,

Is anyone willing to propose a voluntary bandplan for the UK 501 kHz
allocation? We could follow the same sort of scheme that is followed on 137
kHz, with separate areas for CW, digital and QRSS/DFCW modes. The 3kHz
available is broadly similar to the 137 kHz allocation, and won't be enough
to permit much by way of "broadband" operation (MCW, DSB-AM, SSB, or even
drifty CW etc)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made
available for 12 months from 1st March. See

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200
70221

and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites.

73 John, G3WKL
RSGB HF Manager













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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Dave, Alan, and Hartmut for the reports from last 
night. I started transmitting just before 0100 UTC, but did two 5-minute 
key-down periods before that. The first was at 2135 UTC, about 30 
minutes before my local sunset, and the signal was clearly visible on 
Jean-Pierre's screen. I regularly use the "grabber" screens run by 
Markus, Jean-Pierre and Dave, and they are most appreciated.

No TA signals were seen before I started transmitting at 0100.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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High static level and good signals levels last night here in Germany.
Captured VE3OT (MP), VO1NA and WD2XES. Very good signal level and less
fading on the WD2XES signal. Dogbones 04:00-07:30. Fade out about
09:00. The "NA"s from VO1NA were readable 00:00-06:30. There were
traces of MP all night but not much readable.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Hi all on the list !

Last night poor conditions
i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS
22:30>02:30 (traces only)
WD2XKO
23:30>02:00 (traces only)

Low static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


























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Zitat von Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>:

> Hi I accept that it is useful for an EU station to transmit in the US TA
> window to use the western grabbers of Jean-Pierre and Dave G3YXM, but please
> remember that 137.777 is Joe Craig's VO1NA only crystal frequency and he is
> often likely to appear early in the evening The 30sec slow ARGO screen which
> most of us use has a 5Hz window so there is plenty of room to stack stable
> transmissions. Even a 0.2Hz shift will clear Joe as he does not use DFCW.
>
> Thanks
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
Hi,
it was HRE.
Edgar, DL2HRE are you on this email reflector?
regards
Uwe/dj8wx





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Hi I accept that it is useful for an EU station to transmit in the US TA
window to use the western grabbers of Jean-Pierre and Dave G3YXM, but please
remember that 137.777 is Joe Craig's VO1NA only crystal frequency and he is
often likely to appear early in the evening The 30sec slow ARGO screen which
most of us use has a 5Hz window so there is plenty of room to stack stable
transmissions. Even a 0.2Hz shift will clear Joe as he does not use DFCW.

Thanks
Alan G3NYK




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Hi all
seems I copied them both at 00:20hs 11/02/2007
I do not know the full callsign of UWE sending WZ
Would someone please supply the information?
SDR-14 Datong AD370 active dipole vertical polarisation.
Signals identified with Spectrum Lab as sdr-14 display did not allow ID
among the band noise.
dave G8SZX Leicester UK  IO 92 jp

F4DTL@aol.com wrote:
> Good copy Valerio and Uwe this night...
>  
> See my screen capture:
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> 73 de F4DTL Nicolas in  JN18FP
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Good copy Valerio and Uwe this night...
 
See my screen capture:
_http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1110/balisesdj8wxik5zpvqrss6ci3.jpg_ 
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73 de F4DTL Nicolas in  JN18FP

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Valerio,

Sorry, I cannot see the signal here.

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Hello Valerio ,
Good signal on 319.5 ( Strange handling ! )
see picture
73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ  JN06HT

valerio gabbani a =E9crit :
> Hello,
> I'm transmitting ZPV on about 136319.5 kHz now (10:34z).
> I started around 9:34z transmitting an unmodulated carrier.
> Can anyone see something on the other pound ?
> It is not safe to work my TX unmanned, so i will stop around 00:00z
>
> '73
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Hello,
I'm transmitting ZPV on about 136319.5 kHz now (10:34z).
I started around 9:34z transmitting an unmodulated carrier.
Can anyone see something on the other pound ?
It is not safe to work my TX unmanned, so i will stop around 00:00z

'73
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Hello,<br>I&#39;m transmitting ZPV on about 136319.5 kHz now (10:34z).<br>I started around 9:34z transmitting an unmodulated carrier.<br>Can anyone see something on the other pound ?<br>It is not safe to work my TX unmanned, so i will stop around 00:00z
<br clear="all"><br>&#39;73<br>-- <br>IK5ZPV<br>

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Mike,
do you know the schedule for the RW transmissions?
Mike ZL4OL
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  I think most are listening to 480kc tonight for W0RW's FSK signal. It =
is coming in very strong in Minnesota right now. 480.00kc base freq with =
a 480.170kc shifted carrier. About 10 seconds on 480.00kc with a 20 =
second or so carrier on 480.170kc.

  Mike
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Zitat von John Andrews <w1tag@w1tag.com>:

> Like Jay, I had good copy of Frank overnight. Best signals were from 
> 0000 through 0300 UTC. The last trace seen was around 0650 UTC. There 
> are some weak traces on Uwe's frequency between 0000 and 0100, but I 
> can't identify them.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG
>
>
>

Hi Jay, John and Joe,
thanks for the reports. last EU night the ERP was 180mW, this it is 210mW.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Like Jay, I had good copy of Frank overnight. Best signals were from 
0000 through 0300 UTC. The last trace seen was around 0650 UTC. There 
are some weak traces on Uwe's frequency between 0000 and 0100, but I 
can't identify them.

John Andrews, W1TAG



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TA enthusiasts

Excellent copy of PE1RRF throughout the night...and brief glimpse of DJ8WX at:

http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2007.html

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Dear Dave,
          at first congratulations. How about taking the 503,9 for QRSS? =
It is close to our 505,1 and easy to watch.
Does your antenna have an efficiency of 2%? How about a ten-watts-PA?
          But anyway - let`s try to see your beacon soon.
73   Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF

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  Well the NOV came this morning so I've been busy building a PA... to =
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  I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode =
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  Dave.

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Hi Michael apologies my frequency calibration was out on 3 sec dots mode. I
make your DFCW dot 137.690 at 22.28 and nicely clear of any strong Rugby
Loran lines. Fully "O" copy of course
Cheers de Alan G3NYK   JO02PB

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi,
>
>   Tonight, starting at 7:30 TU, I will be active in QRSS and DFCW near the
>   frequency of 137700 with 350 watts RF and a 12 m T antenna.
>
>   Reports are welcome.
>
>   73 de Michel f5wk  JN18HP
> --
>
>
>



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Michael I make your frequency 137.718 ( I have not checked my calibtaion
recently so I could be wrong) at about 2115 but you are almost right on top
of a Rugby Loran line

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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>
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>
>   Reports are welcome.
>
>   73 de Michel f5wk  JN18HP
> --
>
>
>



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Captured RA3YO, RX9BS and UA4WPF yesterday Feb, 16th 17:30-23:00.

Captures can be seen here:

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73
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Hi LF,

Just had a reply from John regarding the tick boxes at the bottom of the 
Ofcom SRP form,

He wrote :-

"Yes, please leave these boxes blank

Sorry for the slow reply, but am in Vienna at the IARU Region 1 Interim 
Conference and my e-mail isn't working too well

73 John, G3WKL"
***********************************************************

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Mike and Group,

Solid O copy here 0000-0030 (approx).
73
Joe VO1NA

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Mike Dennison wrote:

> My beacon is running overnight. "G3XDV", 136.3180kHz. QRSS30. Synch
> with start of each hour.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
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Some activity on noted 318...

http://www.w1vd.com/136318grabber.html

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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Watching from this side...

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Hi Mike ,
Very good signal in JN06HT ( see attachment )
73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Mike Dennison a =E9crit :
> My beacon is running overnight. "G3XDV", 136.3180kHz. QRSS30. Synch=20
> with start of each hour.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Ge Mike,

your signal coming up now. Capture tomorrow morning.

vy73

Marco

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My beacon is running overnight. "G3XDV", 136.3180kHz. QRSS30. Synch 
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My beacon is running overnight. "G3XDV", 136.3180kHz. QRSS30. Synch 
with start of each hour.

Mike, G3XDV
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Seems CFH is clearing out a few spiders...

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Hi Jay
I was active last nite from abt 2200z until abt 0130 for short periods on
136.316 qrs 10 maybe u were running too slow to see my sig.

73 Mal/G3KEV

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> TA enthusiasts, Mike
>
> Weak copy of DV (G3XDV) beginning approximately 2215Z. Signal remained
weak copy until late evening
> shut down.
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>
>



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Hi Marco

TNX  for report

Dmitry
RA3YO

dd7pc@email.de wrote:

> Hello,
>
> very good copy last night of IK5ZPV and WX (Mini-Whip and FT-857):
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/IK5ZPV_WX_11Feb07.jpg
>
> not 100%, but i think i copied G3XDV sending DV and RA3YO in DFCW 
> sending RA:
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/RA3YO_DFCW60_capt105.jpg
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DV_G3XDV_capt28.jpg
>
>  
>
> vy73
>
> Marco
>
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
>  
>




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Zitat von dd7pc@email.de:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> very good copy last night of IK5ZPV and WX (Mini-Whip and FT-857):
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/IK5ZPV_WX_11Feb07.jpg 
> [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/IK5ZPV_WX_11Feb07.jpg]
>
> not 100%, but i think i copied G3XDV sending DV and RA3YO in DFCW sending RA:
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/RA3YO_DFCW60_capt105.jpg 
> [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/RA3YO_DFCW60_capt105.jpg]
>
> http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DV_G3XDV_capt28.jpg 
> [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DV_G3XDV_capt28.jpg]
>
>
>
> vy73
>
> Marco
>
> DD7PC
>
> JN49ax
>
>
>

Hi Marco,
thanks for the report.
at abt 0100UTC I had to switch off because the GPS disciplined
1PPS clock didnt lock any more. reason: snow on the GPS antennae which are
mounted on the roof of the carport.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/JO43sv



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Hello,

very good copy last night of IK5ZPV and WX (Mini-Whip and FT-857):

http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/IK5ZPV_WX_11Feb07.jpg [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/IK5ZPV_WX_11Feb07.jpg]

not 100%, but i think i copied G3XDV sending DV and RA3YO in DFCW sending RA:

http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/RA3YO_DFCW60_capt105.jpg [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/RA3YO_DFCW60_capt105.jpg]

http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DV_G3XDV_capt28.jpg [http://www.mydarc.de/dd7pc/DV_G3XDV_capt28.jpg]

 

vy73

Marco

DD7PC

JN49ax

 

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Having finally got my antenna working to its full efficiency again, I 
will transmit a beacon tonight. 

I will transmit my full callsign from 2000UTC. QRSS30, 136.318kHz. 
Each transmission starting on the hour.

If all goes well, I will transmit all night until about 0800. This 
will be confirmed later this evening.

Mike, G3XDV
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The strong signal from PE1RRF in JN18FP last night.
 
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the report. Im glad with your good report.
Last week we were also on the air from this location with the 250 meters longwire antenna and did some improvement now. So great to hear that reception is good, and we planed to becon all night long.
73
Frank PE1RRF


In reply to "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> on Sat Feb 10 00:01:37 2007:

> Hi, Frank.
> 
> Very strong signal here...clearly audible. About 30dB above the noise floor.
> Screenshot attached. Antenna is the usual transmitting "Tee" antenna, 20m
> top at 5m high.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
> (Near Windsor, S.E. England)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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> Hi all,
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> This night we are testing on the freq. +/- 136.317 khz.
> Please give it a try to receiving.
> Reports are very welcome.
> 73
> Frank, PE1RRF.
> 
> 
> 
> 





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Hi, Frank.

Very strong signal here...clearly audible. About 30dB above the noise floor.
Screenshot attached. Antenna is the usual transmitting "Tee" antenna, 20m
top at 5m high.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

(Near Windsor, S.E. England)

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Hi all,

This night we are testing on the freq. +/- 136.317 khz.
Please give it a try to receiving.
Reports are very welcome.
73
Frank, PE1RRF.




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riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote:
> Installed it OK but it occasionally hangs,, CPU load never high
> 
> the noise blanker works better,, or at least doesnt cause distortion
> like S / V ,,, could use a notch filter though,, not sure why it hangs
> first time when I played with the gain control it quit working. 
> also the need to select IQ each time could be changed ?
> so far just getting used to it,,, I like the tuning and the audio sounds
> great
> many thanks for your effort
> 
> Bob K3DJC

  Bob,

    Winrad saves its settings when exiting. The IQ mode is one of those saved. Of course the save happens only when 
exiting normally and not in case of a hang...
The notch filter is among the planned improvements.
When it did hang, were you using it with a sound card or with the RFspace SDR-IQ (or SDR-14) ?
Can you reproduce at will the hang ?  Thanks for any information on this.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Installed it OK but it occasionally hangs,, CPU load never high

the noise blanker works better,, or at least doesnt cause distortion
like S / V ,,, could use a notch filter though,, not sure why it hangs
first time when I played with the gain control it quit working. 
also the need to select IQ each time could be changed ?
so far just getting used to it,,, I like the tuning and the audio sounds
great
many thanks for your effort

Bob K3DJC


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> and NOT
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> 
> Sorry...
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> 
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> 


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If you get a message saying that the BORLNDMM.DLL library is missing, please redownload now the package.
I made a mistake, linking the RTL support in dynamic, instead of static, mode.

Sorry.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Of course, the correct URL where to download it from is :
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73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES ( Strong static activity at the time of starting of XES,storm in Atlantique ! )
VO1NA (trace only)

High static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



























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I'll be putting out a few CQ calls, straight CW,  on Sunday from about 0900 GMT
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Hello Fanck yu're 45 dB over the noise,no coments HI !
 
Good DX to the USA...
 
73 de F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
 

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Very very strong signal last night in JN18FP.
10 meters vertical antenna with loading coil and receiver IC 7400.
Thanx Franck.
Best regards F4DTL.
 
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DI2AG beacon on 505.090 will be started soon with 2W ERP and QRSS10. =
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Poor also on 160m to the USA but good to S America. I had a qso with YV5M=
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59 each way, but in spite of condx I did work N4PN

73 G3KEWV

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> Hi all on the list !
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> Last night poor conditions
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> Captures of the night are on :
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi Everyone

I have taken the time to scan in the manual from my NAUTEL NEL7804 
beacon TX.  These things are used all over the world as NDB TXs and are 
rapidly becoming surplus and easy to find but getting a manual is difficult.

They are ready for 600m work out of the box pretty much and with a 
simple modification can be used on 2200m.

The NEL7804 is a great linear LF transmitter with much potential. I have 
used mine on 2200m for modes like PSK31 and WOLF. 

I will post firmware and mod information someday to show how I did it.

If you interested in how an NDB TX works have a look here...
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73 Scott
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> Frequency: 136.321 in QRS 60
>
> 73 Frank
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Hi Frank - audible signal (25 dB above noise) in IO91 with PA0DRT mini-whip or large 3-turn loop - Brian (G3YKB)

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73 Frank
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At this moment Im testing my new antenna.
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73 Frank
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Hi Mike, LFers,

Sorry, but no capture last night.  I checked the W1VD grabber
a few times throughout the evening and I saw that you where a
weak copy there, so not much hope for me.  I'll keep watching
as long as I know you'll be on.

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Hi Joe,

Your signal visible but part obscured by HRE on frequency.

73

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Will be sending NA K on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz.
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I will try again on 136.819 this time starting around 4:00 UTC of 19/2


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Dear Joe, Dmitry, LF group

I copied one "NA" together with RA3YO(I think) at 2342utc yesterday.
Screenshot attached. I copied one more "NA" at 0423utc this morning. RX
antenna was my 1.2m square tuned loop.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Joe Craig
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Dear LF Group,

An intermittent connection was found in the exciter that caused
erratic operation.  Some strange keying could be seen on the
F1AFJ grabber and there were instances when the Decca was quite
idle when it should have been keyed.  After a small amount of
colourful language, the bad connection was found and fixed.

Please accept my apologies for the erratic operation.
NA will be on 137.777 QSX 136.318 kHz +- 3 Hz starting
2130 25 Feb.

73
Joe



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In the early sixties I sometimes used to make CW with a transmitter
GELOSO-vfo ("frequency runs and runs and....") and PA 807. A friendly tub=
e.
No self-oscillating.
73   Walter   DI2AG / DJ2LF

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>And in France, a "golden neck 807" means a bottle of champagne :o)
>
>73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR
>
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>> >> 807 =3D vacuum tube =3D WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode.
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>> >Cold 807 =3D beer
>> And in France you can go mobile in a [Peugeot] 807.
>>
>> 73
>> John F5VLF
>>
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And in France, a "golden neck 807" means a bottle of champagne :o)

73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

> -----Message d'origine-----
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> >> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode.
> >
> >Cold 807 = beer
> And in France you can go mobile in a [Peugeot] 807.
> 
> 73
> John F5VLF
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>> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode.
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>Cold 807 = beer
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73
John F5VLF





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K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 wrote:
>> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode.
> 
> Cold 807 = beer

Warm 807 = U.K. beer



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No No Dave lotsa volts and lotsa milliamps, Nuvistors a trifle fragile
compared with 807s..... I believe Brian CT1DRP built one or used one for an
e-probe. Feeding can be a problem, they do have a bite !!

Alan

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> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode. You could try a
Nuvistor
> ;-)
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode.

Cold 807 = beer

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> 807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode. You could try a Nuvistor
> ;-)
> 
>


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807 = vacuum tube = WW2 transmitting Beam tetrode. You could try a Nuvistor
;-)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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An 807????


Alan Melia wrote:
> If you try to charge an SLA at 17volts you will quickly knacker it. The
> charger needs to be regulated to 2.25v per cell for continuous charging,
or
> about 13.5v. You only need 17 volts it you have volts of BC station at the
> antenna. Scott should really use an 807 !!
>
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> Hi Scott, LFers,
>>
>> That's good news about the mini-whip power.  I intend to put mine
>> out in the back field, well clear of everything, and to power it from
>> a sealed battery pack with a small solar panel to keep it charged.
>> Since most panels put out around 17-18 volts if not regulated, it
>> would seem that I've hit upon a lucky break for once!
>>
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>> Solar and wind powered
>> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>> EN93dr
>>
>> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





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An 807????


Alan Melia wrote:
> If you try to charge an SLA at 17volts you will quickly knacker it. The
> charger needs to be regulated to 2.25v per cell for continuous charging, or
> about 13.5v. You only need 17 volts it you have volts of BC station at the
> antenna. Scott should really use an 807 !!
>
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: 11 February 2007 21:34
> Subject: LF: Re: TIL Grabber back online...
>
>
>   
>> Hi Scott, LFers,
>>
>> That's good news about the mini-whip power.  I intend to put mine
>> out in the back field, well clear of everything, and to power it from
>> a sealed battery pack with a small solar panel to keep it charged.
>> Since most panels put out around 17-18 volts if not regulated, it
>> would seem that I've hit upon a lucky break for once!
>>
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>> Solar and wind powered
>> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>> EN93dr
>>
>> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   


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If you try to charge an SLA at 17volts you will quickly knacker it. The
charger needs to be regulated to 2.25v per cell for continuous charging, or
about 13.5v. You only need 17 volts it you have volts of BC station at the
antenna. Scott should really use an 807 !!

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
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> Hi Scott, LFers,
>
> That's good news about the mini-whip power.  I intend to put mine
> out in the back field, well clear of everything, and to power it from
> a sealed battery pack with a small solar panel to keep it charged.
> Since most panels put out around 17-18 volts if not regulated, it
> would seem that I've hit upon a lucky break for once!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>



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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES (visible 1 hour after sunrise)
VO1NA (first "NA's" readable !...)

High static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



























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Frank,

> This night we are testing on the freq. +/- 136.317 khz.

I'm getting a very good signal from you on 136.3207. The attached clip 
was taken at 2303 UTC.

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Hi all,

This night we are testing on the freq. +/- 136.317 khz.
Please give it a try to receiving.
Reports are very welcome.
73
Frank, PE1RRF.




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It was down Sunday afternoon and evening, but as you have by now noticed, 
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John

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Hello LFers,

I've had no mail from the LowFER list for the last day or so.
Is the list down, or I'm I missing out on the mail for another
reason?  Reply direct or via this reflector...thanks!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Well Done Mike and Jay. That repays the effort repairing the aerial Mike !!
Just in nice timing.  By the look of Steve's plot of DCF39 last night was
another night of good (almost record) signal levels.  It does look as though
good conditions will continue for a few days.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> TA enthusiasts, Mike
>
> Nice copy of G3XDV last night. Details and additional captures here:
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2007.html
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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Hi Frank - LF,

Very strong signal here in NW UK - IO83qp.

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Hello Joe,
Happy of the return of your beacon, it I am missed Me! in spite of the=20
propagation not very good, I see traces each day (it misses 2 or 3 dB to=20
be identifiable) do not despair the good conditions will return!
73  Jean-Pierre   f1afj


Joe Craig a =E9crit :
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Hi Jean-Piere,

Thanks for the report and the grabber service.

73
Joe VO1NA

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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS
WD2XES (visible 1 hour after sunrise)
VO1NA (trace only)

Middle static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


























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Dear LF Group,

There is not much to add to Mike's account of our QSO.  I was using the
oxco  exciter and keyer as described in QST vol. 89 no. 7 into a
switching/bypass cap and then to the Decca amp in the cold (-15 deg C)
shed.  Only one of the 3 PA's of the Decca amp was switched in.  The DC input
was 67V@5A and the antenna  current was 2.2 amps. The aerial was 100
metres of wire 10 metres above ground level and required 1.9 mH of
tuning inductance.

The attached files show portions of the QSO captured here.

Many thanks for the kind words and reports from F1AFJ F4DTL DF7NM
G3NYK G3LDO W1VD PA0SE Hartmut Wolf G3YXM G4WGT G3AQC IK5ZPV and CT1DRP.

A +0.1 Hz drift of the carrier seen on the F1AFJ grabber and reported by
Hartmut has been corrected ( I think) and it's now back on 137.7770 kHz.

Thanks Mike and LF group.
73
Joe VO1NA
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>Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using
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2007/2/12, Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>:
>
> Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using
> QRSS60 and I used QRSS30. The contact involved no repeats and lasted
> 3.5 hours, starting at 2230UTC. 'O' reports were exchanged.
>
> The attached images of Joe show that conditions were very good, with
> some strong fades. Initially I had Argo set to 30 second dots, but
> changed to 60s during a fade, which is why the first picture looks
> odd.
>
> I run about 200mW ERP from an antenna squeezed into a garden 20m
> (70ft) by 8m (25ft). I believe Joe was running well below 1W ERP
> himself.
>
> My thanks to Joe,and to W3EEE for his DFC39 chart which reduced the
> number of sleepless nights needed, and DF6NM for his grabber which
> helped ensure a clear frequency.
>
> I also noted activity from RA3YO near 137.777, and IK5ZPV and DK8KW
> who were close to 136.318.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
>
> Congratulations Joe and Mike.



' 73 de IK5ZPV

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<div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/2/12, Mike Dennison &lt;<a href="mailto:mike.dennison@ntlworld.com">mike.dennison@ntlworld.com</a>&gt;:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using<br>QRSS60 and I used QRSS30. The contact involved no repeats and lasted
<br>3.5 hours, starting at 2230UTC. &#39;O&#39; reports were exchanged.<br><br>The attached images of Joe show that conditions were very good, with<br>some strong fades. Initially I had Argo set to 30 second dots, but<br>
changed to 60s during a fade, which is why the first picture looks<br>odd.<br><br>I run about 200mW ERP from an antenna squeezed into a garden 20m<br>(70ft) by 8m (25ft). I believe Joe was running well below 1W ERP<br>himself.
<br><br>My thanks to Joe,and to W3EEE for his DFC39 chart which reduced the<br>number of sleepless nights needed, and DF6NM for his grabber which<br>helped ensure a clear frequency.<br><br>I also noted activity from RA3YO near 
137.777, and IK5ZPV and DK8KW<br>who were close to 136.318.<br><br>Mike, G3XDV<br>==========<br><br>Congratulations&nbsp;Joe and Mike.&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">&#39; 73 de IK5ZPV

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Congratulations Joe and Mike!

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 11:24 12-2-2007, you wrote:
>Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using
>QRSS60 and I used QRSS30. The contact involved no repeats and lasted
>3.5 hours, starting at 2230UTC. 'O' reports were exchanged.
>
>The attached images of Joe show that conditions were very good, with
>some strong fades. Initially I had Argo set to 30 second dots, but
>changed to 60s during a fade, which is why the first picture looks
>odd.
>
>I run about 200mW ERP from an antenna squeezed into a garden 20m
>(70ft) by 8m (25ft). I believe Joe was running well below 1W ERP
>himself.
>
>My thanks to Joe,and to W3EEE for his DFC39 chart which reduced the
>number of sleepless nights needed, and DF6NM for his grabber which
>helped ensure a clear frequency.
>
>I also noted activity from RA3YO near 137.777, and IK5ZPV and DK8KW
>who were close to 136.318.
>
>Mike, G3XDV
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Mike and Joe
This is a splendid result and you are both to be congratulated. 
Particularly Mike who has such a restricted site - it just shows what 
can be done with skill and perseverance.

Peter, G3LDO



> Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using 
> QRSS60 and I used QRSS30. The contact involved no repeats and lasted 
> 3.5 hours, starting at 2230UTC. 'O' reports were exchanged.
>
> The attached images of Joe show that conditions were very good, with 
> some strong fades. Initially I had Argo set to 30 second dots, but 
> changed to 60s during a fade, which is why the first picture looks 
> odd.
>
> I run about 200mW ERP from an antenna squeezed into a garden 20m 
> (70ft) by 8m (25ft). I believe Joe was running well below 1W ERP 
> himself.
>
>   



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Joe, VO1NA, and I completed a successful QSO last night. He was using 
QRSS60 and I used QRSS30. The contact involved no repeats and lasted 
3.5 hours, starting at 2230UTC. 'O' reports were exchanged.

The attached images of Joe show that conditions were very good, with 
some strong fades. Initially I had Argo set to 30 second dots, but 
changed to 60s during a fade, which is why the first picture looks 
odd.

I run about 200mW ERP from an antenna squeezed into a garden 20m 
(70ft) by 8m (25ft). I believe Joe was running well below 1W ERP 
himself.

My thanks to Joe,and to W3EEE for his DFC39 chart which reduced the 
number of sleepless nights needed, and DF6NM for his grabber which 
helped ensure a clear frequency.

I also noted activity from RA3YO near 137.777, and IK5ZPV and DK8KW 
who were close to 136.318.

Mike, G3XDV
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

VO1NA( Very small signal, not readable !)

Middle static level
Low noise level

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the files of night are filed each day at :
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I think most are listening to 480kc tonight for W0RW's FSK signal. It is =
coming in very strong in Minnesota right now. 480.00kc base freq with a =
480.170kc shifted carrier. About 10 seconds on 480.00kc with a 20 second =
or so carrier on 480.170kc.

Mike
WD2XSH/16

  From: Laurence KL1X


  Ill have the Shanghai grabber up tonight centered 136.318 for Europe, =
and pre US dawn in the 137.779 window, and interbetweenies for 500Khz if =
I can figure out where to listen this evenings lottery.
  =20
  The Chinese internet is now "ok" having been awful since Christmas, so =
the FTP load to the USA seems to be working now (fingers crossed)-=20
  =20
  Laurence
  =20
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  http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg<http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg>
  R75 probe Pudong Shanghai PM01SF
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Hi all on the list !

Last night i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES (Good copy ,visible 1 hour after sunrise)
Nothing here VO1NA

Middle static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
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the files of night are filed each day at :
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Dave

I have several ground mounted 1-meter e probe antennas (Amrad design but =
with J310, no ferrite bead and NE-2 replaced with a 75 volt gas-filled =
surge arrestor) located about 75 feet from my 1 watt ERP 137 kHz setup =
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I did lose a CP666 or two (original device used in the Amrad antenna at =
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Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

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> Has anyone done anything along the lines of  the subject line using a
> mechanical switch/relay arrangement?
> I expect that any electronic method would add considerably to the
> capacitance from the probe 'antenna' to ground so the best option
> would seem to be to use something like the mechanical arrangement in
> the old Dow-Key coax relays that had the 'isolated' receive side
> contact. This will require a relay of some sort in the E probe that
> operates to remove the protective earth only when on receive.  I'm
> still mulling over the best mechanical arrangement to implement this
> scheme-all ideas most welcome.
> 73
> Dave, ZL3FJ
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have several ground mounted 1-meter e =
probe=20
antennas (Amrad design but with J310, no ferrite bead and NE-2 replaced =
with a=20
75 volt gas-filled surge arrestor)&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>located=20
about 75 feet from my 1 watt ERP 137 kHz setup and haven't suffered any=20
failures...this with no external protection. Not suggesting this is a =
good=20
idea...&nbsp; just to note that they&nbsp;can be&nbsp;pretty robust.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did lose a CP666&nbsp;or two =
(original device=20
used in the Amrad antenna at about $15 a copy) to lightning but since I =
switched=20
to the J310 there&nbsp;haven't&nbsp;been any failures. Probably because =
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J310s are cheap and I have plenty in the junk box ;~)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD / WD2XNS</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Brown" &lt;<A=20
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:51 AM<BR>Subject: [Lowfer] Protecting E =
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anything along the lines of&nbsp; the subject line using a<BR>&gt; =
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considerably to the<BR>&gt; capacitance from the probe 'antenna' to =
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receive side<BR>&gt; contact. This will require a relay of some sort in =
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receive.&nbsp; I'm<BR>&gt; still mulling over the best mechanical =
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implement this<BR>&gt; scheme-all ideas most welcome.<BR>&gt; 73<BR>&gt; =
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Congratulations Dave,

Looks like your the first. My application in the post today.

Does anyone know how many 500 KHz NOV's are to be issued ?

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Well the NOV came this morning so I've been busy building a PA... to
> generate 5 Watts!!
>
> I should be on at the weekend. Any suggestions about frequency - mode etc?
>
> Dave.
>
> -- 
> G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
> 


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Valerio

Been watching for about an hour - nothing so far.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



