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Ah ha, so that's how it gets done up there...LOL!!! I had to show the =
XYL where Whitehorse was on a map as she didn't even know where Yukon =
Territory was!!! Keeping in mind, she has blond hair ...LOL!!!


Mike
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Hello LFers,

A nice late afternoon capture of XNS and XES here
in Saltford as the sun sets over Lake Huron.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :

WD2XGJ
Middle static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Good copy of the QRSS60 signal from UA4WPF sending "WPF" on 137.7772
kHz 19:00-19:40 UTC.

WD2XGJ showing up here about 20:30 UTC. Good copy untill 23:55. The
signal appeared again about 02:50, but only weak. Lost just after
03:00 UTC.

Nice reception of the WOLF10 signal from WD2XES 22:00-01:00 on
137.577kHz. After 01:00 the signal was much weaker and I decoded only
a few lines. The DFCW90 transmission on 137.779 was best between
05:00 and 09:00.

First signs of WD2XKO appeared here about 22:10. There was a lot of
fading on the signal. Best strength 06:00-07:00.

WD2XNS was visible here 05:00-09:00 with good peaks between deeper
fading periods.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Dear LF Group,

An "M" copy "__A3YO" in DFCW 60 is visible here at 2130utc

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

















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Wolf,

The (receive) calibration settings for Argo look like this:

Measured frequency: 391.78
Displayed frequency 400.00             Frequency Offset 137380

This makes the display and sidebars of Argo match my readout with Scott, who 
has a very accurate setup.

This may be important, because it shows how far off the calibration of the 
sound card is.  The same sound card will be used for receive and transmit.

J. 




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Hi Warren, CaptBrian reported the same thing. I guess it must be congestion
if it is only sporadic. I will report this to John though I dont know what
the list-owner can do about it. I have not seen any access complaints from
Europe so maybe its the wind over the Atlantic blowing the wrong way, and
the pidgeons are struggling !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 <k2ors@comcast.net>
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> Hartmut,
>
>   Thanks for the report, i signed on at 21:05 UTC today, sunset here was
21:18 UTC.
> I am also replying direct since many of my replies through the RSGB
reflector seem to bounce.
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de>
> > Very strong signal from WD2XGJ here since about 21:05.
> >
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > www.h-wolff.de
> > Locator: JO52hp
> >
> >
>
>



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Hartmut,

  Thanks for the report, i signed on at 21:05 UTC today, sunset here was 21:18 UTC.
I am also replying direct since many of my replies through the RSGB reflector seem to bounce.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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> Very strong signal from WD2XGJ here since about 21:05.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
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Hartmut,

  Thanks for the report, hopefully good conditions are returning.
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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> XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
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XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.

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Scott,

Special thanks to you for keeping that grabber going even through hideous 
QRM.  Your work was the evidence needed to prove connection between Harmut's 
captured UNID and  its source.

The efforts of all grabber ops is an imporant contributor to experiments 
here on LF

Sincerely,

J.
VY1JA 




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=3D=3D>ARRL 500 kHz EXPERIMENT KICKING INTO HIGH GEAR

The group of Amateur Radio operators researching the radio spectrum i=
n the
vicinity of 500 kHz already have recorded a few successes. The 500 KC
Experimental Group for Amateur Radio <http://www.500kc.com/> is opera=
ting
under Part 5 experimental license WD2XSH, which the FCC Office of
Engineering and Technology granted September 13 to the ARRL. Project =
manager
Fritz Raab, W1FR, says WD2XSH participants have been heard across bot=
h the
Atlantic and the Pacific as well as all around the US.

"Things took off much faster than I had ever imagined," Raab told ARR=
L early
this month. "Eleven station are on the air now." Others in the 21-sta=
tion
group included on the Experimental license continue efforts to cobble
together the transmitting and antenna systems necessary to put out a =
signal
on what group members call "the 600 meter band."

Raab says the 600-meter signal of well-known low-frequency enthusiast=
 "Dex"
McIntyre, W4DEX, in North Carolina -- operating as WD2XSH/10 -- was c=
opied
October 10 in Germany using very slow-speed CW (QRSS). Other stations=
 have
since duplicated that feat. Rudy Severns, N6LF, operating as WD2XSH/2=
0 from
Oregon, not only is heard regularly throughout the western half of th=
e US
but has been copied in Hawaii and, possibly, in New Zealand, Raab say=
s,
noting that the New Zealand reception was "not sufficiently clear" to=
 make a
claim.

While not a part of the experimental group, Ralph Wallio, W0RPK, has =
assumed
the role of official record keeper and has noted more than two dozen =
one-way
reception reports of more than 1000 miles. The list included "by ear"=
 CW
reception from Colorado to Massachusetts, nearly 1800 miles. The best
distance as of earlier this week: 4515 miles from Conard Murray, WS4S=
,
operating as WD2XSH/11 in Tennessee to Germany using QRSS (reception =
using
computer software).

Operating as WD2XSH/14 from Vermont, Raab says he's managed three QSO=
s with
his "meager 42-foot vertical" -- New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Nor=
th
Carolina -- plus reception in Ohio. He envisions at least a secondary
600-meter Amateur Radio allocation from 495 to 510 kHz that would sup=
port
Amateur Radio emergency communication via groundwave.

The two-year WD2XSH authorization permits experimentation and researc=
h
between 505 and 510 kHz using narrowband modes at power levels of up =
to 20 W
effective radiated power (ERP). The Midwest stations are limited to 5=
05 to
508 kHz for the time being, Raab notes. The first QSO took place Sept=
ember
21 between the stations in Tennessee and North Carolina =97 a distanc=
e of some
300 miles.

To get on the air, WD2XSH participants have repurposed some older gea=
r and
even some text equipment. Paul Signorelli, W0RW, operating as WD2XSH/=
21 from
Colorado, has modified a vintage Heath DX-100 transmitter for LF CW
operation. "I match the DX-100 output to a 5-turn link of #10 wire," =
he
reported in a detailed description of how he was able to get the old =
rig to
transmit just below the AM broadcast band. Getting "down there" point=
s up
the need to increase physical component size by several orders of mag=
nitude.

"The link is on a 13-inch diameter cardboard hoop," Signorelli contin=
ues.
"It slips up and down over the antenna loading coil and is adjusted f=
or
lowest SWR." That antenna loading coil itself is a foot in diameter, =
wound
with #10 solid, insulated wire. A 30-gallon trash can provides the
weatherproofing for the coil. The DX-100 generates 100 W of RF on 500=
 kHz.
Signorelli advises against using conventional-sized coax. "This trans=
mitter
will smoke your coax if you have high SWR," he said. He's using hardl=
ine
instead.

While Raab notes that while the current license cannot accommodate mo=
re
participants, he plans to re-evaluate the situation in a year. "At th=
at
time, we may request a revision to the license that makes substitutio=
ns for
stations that have not gotten on the air and possibly add some new
stations," he says on the group's Web site. "Substitutes and addition=
s will
be selected based upon their potential to contribute to the experimen=
t." He
cautions, "This is an experimental license, not just ham radio on a n=
ew
frequency!"

The experimental group does invite reception reports
<http://w5jgv.com/500kcreportform.htm> of transmissions made by group
members. You do not have to be a member of the experimental team to s=
end a
reception report.




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Dear Frank, LF.

Strong QRSS3 signals from PE1RRF last night on 137,710. (Screenshot
attached)

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of
info@f-dijkshoorn.speedlinq.nl
Sent: 30 November 2006 20:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: T/A last night : XES


In reply to Jean-Pierre_M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> on Thu Nov 30 21:12:49
2006:

Hi, Jean-Pierre, Garry and the others,

Sorry Jean-Pierre the UNID or Intruder signal last night on 137.78 was a
test of my transmitter to look of it was visible on your grabber.

73,  Frank PE1RRF from JO21HT


> Hi all on the list !
>
> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
>
> WD2XES and one "Intruder" on 137779.6 !
>
> Low static activity
> Low noise level
>
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
>
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Mike.

Winter weather is like propagation... Very changable.  During the winter we 
often have, "Chinooks" which are warm winds off the sea as far as a couple 
of hundred miles inland, driving the temperature up, sometimes above the 
melting point of water.

It has been and is -40 to -48, but every winter I hope for those magical 
warmer days in which to do the outside work and am not often disappointed.

J. 




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Dear J., Hartmut and Scott,
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No doubt, the UNID captured Nov, 21st 05:40-06:30 was VY1JA.=20

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Hi  J  and Hartmut,
Congratulation it is a very beautiful DX !
73qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> No doubt, the UNID captured Nov, 21st 05:40-06:30 was VY1JA.=20
>
> Scott, VE7TIL provided a capture of the same time and the overlay resul=
ts
> are perfectly. Thank you, Scott, I'll sent you the overlay results dire=
ct
> this local evening when back home from work.
>
> J., can you please give me your locator.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>
>  =20

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No doubt, the UNID captured Nov, 21st 05:40-06:30 was VY1JA. 

Scott, VE7TIL provided a capture of the same time and the overlay results
are perfectly. Thank you, Scott, I'll sent you the overlay results direct
this local evening when back home from work.

J., can you please give me your locator.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp



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Thanks  for bothering Wolf...I'll try that AGAIN. 
Martin



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      Found this, "googling" around:



      RSGB LF Group Reflector

An e-mail reflector has been operating for many years now to help 
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concentrated on 73kHz and 136kHz as well as occasionally other LF 
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Martin Mac Gregor schrieb:
> I have tried several times to exit the list for vacations etc...never
> successfully.
>
> Anyone know the hidden secret
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>   






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      Found this, "googling" around:



      RSGB LF Group Reflector

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encourage those wishing to experiment at LF.  In the early days it 
concentrated on 73kHz and 136kHz as well as occasionally other LF 
aspects; with the demise of 73kHz (in the UK) the reflector is one of 
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Martin Mac Gregor schrieb:
> I have tried several times to exit the list for vacations etc...never
> successfully.
>
> Anyone know the hidden secret
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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I have tried several times to exit the list for vacations etc...never
successfully.

Anyone know the hidden secret
Martin




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Laurie,

  Thanks for the nice report and capture. XGJ ran very limited hours last night while I was working on other projects.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "lawrence mayhead" <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>
> XGJ started to be visible early last night at about 21:30utc
> A very good ident at 03:00 - 04:00 see attachment.
> 73 Laurie.



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From: "lawrence mayhead" <laurie.mayhead@googlemail.com>
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XGJ started to be visible early last night at about 21:30utc
A very good ident at 03:00 - 04:00 see attachment.
73 Laurie.

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XGJ started to be visible early last night at about 21:30utc<br>
A very good ident at 03:00 - 04:00 see attachment.<br>
73 Laurie.<br>

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Hi Alan,

Thanks much...have downloaded and will commence playing!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr




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Hi JB one for you with "fiddle buttons" on my web site ....I find it very
useful.
http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/programs.htm#Programs
Cursor down and click to download the zipped EXE file Resonate .zip. It runs
under windows (95 thru XP) and provides a small window you can keep on the
desktop whilst you are doing other jobs. I think it is fairly intuitive.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
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> Hello LFers & Lowfers,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone here can point me to an on-line
> calculator for determining L, C, or Frequency, if two of
> the three parameters are entered.  Thanks in advance.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
>
>



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=46rom the ARRL Newsletter:
Andr=E9 N4ICK

************************************************

=3D=3D> BROADCASTERS INTERVENE TO SUPPORT ARRL IN BPL COURT APPEAL

The Association for Maximum Service Television (MSTV) and the Nationa=
l
Association of Broadcasters (NAB) have filed a joint motion for leave=
 to
intervene in support of the ARRL in its court appeal of the Federal
Communications Commission's Broadband over Power Line (BPL) rules.

The motion to the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Ci=
rcuit
is dated November 9 and states: "MSTV and NAB believe that the regula=
tions
under review are arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to law, and will
adversely impact their members by, among other things, permitting unl=
icensed
users of radio spectrum to interfere with licensed uses of the spectr=
um."

MSTV and NAB are entitled to intervene as a matter of right, so the C=
ourt is
expected to grant the motion. As expected, some BPL proponents are se=
eking
to intervene on the side of the FCC.

ARRL Chief Executive Officer David Sumner, K1ZZ, welcomed the support=
 of
MSTV and NAB. "It is gratifying that these two prestigious broadcasti=
ng
organizations recognize the danger posed to all FCC licensees by the =
FCC's
flawed BPL rules. It's good to have them on our side."




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JB

Tnx for the capture. It was interesting to watch the signal on the KI0LE =
grabber last night - the HELL signal shows variations in propagation =
better than a QRSS white line on an Argo screen. =20

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Jay, LFers,

  A nice capture of the XNS graphics here last evening.
  The shot was taken at 03:20 UTC.

  73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
  Solar and wind powered
  Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
  EN93dr



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx for the capture. </FONT><FONT =
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J.B., VE3EAR=20
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Hans-Albrecht,

DJ7KL and DF6NM. I had not a trace of a signal from DJ7KL I read the
callsign from the reply of DF6NM.

Sorry, I had a typo in my earlier posting. It was your callsign and
not DK8NI!

73
Hartmut



> Dear Lowfers,
> I heard at my new QTH in Wendlingen a STN today at 137,70 kHz at 1231 utc  in mode dfcw with report mm. Must have been a stn with nm call (DF6nm??) wkng a kl stn, named Franz.  The other kl?- stn
> didnt give any track on my screen in qrss3 mode. I tried to respond 10 Hz away. I hope I havn t interfered You.

> Who was it ?

> 55, Hans-Albrecht
> DK 8 ND

> Coordinates:    48� 40' 28'' N,    9� 22' 42'' E
> Coordinates:    48.674472     9.378375
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Dear Lowfers,
I heard at my new QTH in Wendlingen a STN today at 137,70 kHz at 1231 utc =
 in mode dfcw with report mm. Must have been a stn with nm call (DF6nm=3F=3F) =
wkng a kl stn, named Franz.  The other kl=3F- stn didnt give any track on my=
 screen in qrss3 mode. I tried to respond 10 Hz away. I hope I havn t inte=
rfered You.

Who was it =3F

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND

Coordinates:	48=B0 40' 28'' N,    9=B0 22' 42'' E
Coordinates:	48.674472     9.378375
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Hi Frank,

No problem, your signal was seen very strong here.

Please give me (& LF) some details of your LF equipment & antenna.

I hope I will see (or even hear) you again soon.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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> Hi, Jean-Pierre, Garry and the others,
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> Sorry Jean-Pierre the UNID or Intruder signal last night on 137.78 was a 
> test of my transmitter to look of it was visible on your grabber.
>
> 73,  Frank PE1RRF from JO21HT


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In reply to Jean-Pierre_M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> on Thu Nov 30 21:12:49 2006:

Hi, Jean-Pierre, Garry and the others,

Sorry Jean-Pierre the UNID or Intruder signal last night on 137.78 was a test of my transmitter to look of it was visible on your grabber.

73,  Frank PE1RRF from JO21HT


> Hi all on the list !
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> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
> 
> WD2XES and one "Intruder" on 137779.6 !
> 
> Low static activity
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> Captures of the night are on :
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :

WD2XES and one "Intruder" on 137779.6 !

Low static activity
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Captures of the night are on :
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73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht




















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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very good conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XES , WD2XNS , WD2XKO

Low static activity
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Captures of the night are on :
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It is 1350 local at both VY1JA and VE7TIL and  VY1JA is on his grabber at 
about 1000 miles distance and 1W erp.

http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/

The signal is weak but there on the left end of the capture.

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Sorry Jay...I should have said XGJ and XES!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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we do exist ,,, but getting fewer and fewer

HAR

Bob K3DJC


On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:26:54 +0100 Wolf DL4YHF <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Hey, another fan of The Who ;-)
> 
> 
> riese-k3djc@juno.com schrieb:
> > so you are the "evil Uncle Ernie "
> >
> > Bob K3DJC
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:43:04 -0000 "Alan Melia"
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> >> Ah but there are no "fiddle buttons" on that one Dave !!   :-))
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>     
> >
> >   
> 
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> 


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Hey, another fan of The Who ;-)


riese-k3djc@juno.com schrieb:
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>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:43:04 -0000 "Alan Melia"
> <alan.melia@btinternet.com> writes:
>   
>> Ah but there are no "fiddle buttons" on that one Dave !!   :-))
>>
>> Alan
>>     
>
>   



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so you are the "evil Uncle Ernie "

Bob K3DJC


On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:43:04 -0000 "Alan Melia"
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> 
> Alan


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Ah but there are no "fiddle buttons" on that one Dave !!   :-))

Alan


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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> Hi, Alan, JB, LFers,
>
> There's also a nifty calculator available on the Dressler web-site.
>
> http://www.dressler.com/more_about_rf/rf_formuler_resonant.html
>
> You don't have to be online to use it...you can store the HTML page on
your
> hard drive locally, and it still works!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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Dear LF group,

during many nights my grabber screen resembles a bushfire, with all those red 
Luxemburg stripes above the Budapest signal, like flames around an orange 
SXV...

One of the most prominent ionospheric heaters is Solt, Hungary with two 
megawatts on 540 kHz. Almost every night around 23:13, it transmits a 1000 Hz audio 
test tone for a couple of minutes, very useful to quantify the cross 
modulation sidebands imposed on several stations. Due to the quadratic nature of the 
heating, there is also a pair of second harmonics, 2 kHz from the affected 
carriers.

Sat 06-11-25, 23:10:45z to 23:13:45z

f/kHz dBuV/m  origin

138.83 ~71  DCF39 carrier (nighttime)     

138.04   3  \ Turkish FSK 
137.96   3  / 139kHz - 1kHz
137.83  15  DCF39 - 1kHz
137.43  17  Budapest + 2kHz
136.83  -6  DCF39 - 2kHz
136.43  39  Budapest + 1kHz

135.43 ~76  Budapest carrier (night)

The grabber snapshot is at http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/ICM_061125_2315z.gif 
(77kB). 

Though the ICM is normally much stronger at night, it is now often visible 
during daylight hours as well.

73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=
=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"2">Dear LF group,<BR>
<BR>
during many nights my grabber screen resembles a bushfire, with all those re=
d Luxemburg stripes above the Budapest signal, like flames around an orange=20=
SXV...<BR>
<BR>
One of the most prominent ionospheric heaters is Solt, Hungary with two mega=
watts on 540 kHz. Almost every night around 23:13, it transmits a 1000 Hz au=
dio test tone for a couple of minutes, very useful to quantify the cross mod=
ulation sidebands imposed on several stations. Due to the quadratic nature o=
f the heating, there is also a pair of second harmonics, 2 kHz from the affe=
cted carriers.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20=
#ffffff" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"FIXED" FACE=3D"Lucida Console" LANG=
=3D"2">Sat 06-11-25, 23:10:45z to 23:13:45z<BR>
<BR>
f/kHz dBuV/m&nbsp; origin<BR>
<BR>
138.83 ~71&nbsp; DCF39 carrier (nighttime)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
138.04&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; \ Turkish FSK <BR>
137.96&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; / 139kHz - 1kHz<BR>
137.83&nbsp; 15&nbsp; DCF39 - 1kHz<BR>
137.43&nbsp; 17&nbsp; Budapest + 2kHz<BR>
136.83&nbsp; -6&nbsp; DCF39 - 2kHz<BR>
136.43&nbsp; 39&nbsp; Budapest + 1kHz<BR>
<BR>
135.43 ~76&nbsp; Budapest carrier (night)<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#000000" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=20=
#ffffff" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"2"=
><BR>
The grabber snapshot is at <A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/ICM_0611=
25_2315z.gif">http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/ICM_061125_2315z.gif</A> (77kB).=
 <BR>
<BR>
Though the ICM is normally much stronger at night, it is now often visible d=
uring daylight hours as well.<BR>
<BR>
73 de Markus,<BR>
DF6NM in JN59NK<BR>
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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XES , RA3YO

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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J. and group,

me too ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Rik and group,

I am sorry, I meant that to be a private message to you, Rik, and hit the 
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Hello all ,

WD2XGJ ,visible trace since 21:05, good signal currently


Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
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Hello Jay, LFers,

A nice capture of the XNS graphics here last evening.
The shot was taken at 03:20 UTC.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very good conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XES

Low static activity
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
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please "click" on "Capture-1" to
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73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Steve,

thank you

Hartmut


> VY1JA has been using ~ that frequency for some time and may have
> re-activated his beacon last night for Laurence...which would explain the
> warm-up drift. He has a huge, huge signal. I will e-mail and ask about the
> time slot.

> Steve // VE7SL


>> Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
>> and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
>> one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> 73
>> Hartmut
>> www.h-wolff.de
>> Locator: JO52hp



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VY1JA has been using ~ that frequency for some time and may have
re-activated his beacon last night for Laurence...which would explain the
warm-up drift. He has a huge, huge signal. I will e-mail and ask about the
time slot.

Steve // VE7SL


> Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
> and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
> one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp



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Hartmut

Might be a meteor trail from the recent shower...

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: UNID Signal 137.7788 kHz


  Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
  and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
  one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
  appreciated.

  73
  Hartmut
  www.h-wolff.de
  Locator: JO52hp

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Copied WD2XGJ and WD2XES last night. On 137.7768 I captured a unreadable
trace of "MP", VE3OT 05:40-06:30.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

I also uploaded the overlay images of the VY1JA reception, from
yesterday. It seems that the readability of a dot/dash ratio of 1:2
which was used by J is poorer than the usually used 1:3 ratio under
DX-conditions. Due to fades I had some problems to recognize the dots
and dashes.

73
Hartmut
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By coincidence there is an article today on CNN.COM about using intentional pollution to combat global warming:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/11/16/smog.warming.ap/index.html


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23)
> This reminds of an article about how certain types of air pollution (light 
> coloured soot particles) can mitigate the effects of greenhouse gasses on global 
> warming. Similarly this article is touting the benefits of polluting the 
> electromagneic spectrum! 
> 
>  Non-contact inductive chargers have been around for some time, the General 
> Motors EV-1 electric car used one to recharge the battery, most electric 
> toothbrushes use one as well.
> 
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
> > Talbot Andrew wrote:
> > > More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.  
> > > Do these people not understand basic engineering?
> > > 
> > > _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm_
> > > 
> > > Andy  G4JNT
> > 
> > Andy, you haven't taken into account the "quest for funding" aspect of the 
> > problem...
> > They probably have devised a way to ask for research funding. Given that the 
> > commission that will evaluate that request 
> > will be composed by disgruntled and under-payed public officers, they won't 
> > understand that it is an hoax, and will 
> > grant the fundings. And even if someone of them should have doubts, there are 
> no 
> > doubts that cannot be dissipated with a 
> > check... And the citizens will be happy, as their money was rightfully used to 
> > bring forward the state of the knowledge 
> > of the human race,,,
> > 
> > 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> > 
> 
> 



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This reminds of an article about how certain types of air pollution (light coloured soot particles) can mitigate the effects of greenhouse gasses on global warming. Similarly this article is touting the benefits of polluting the electromagneic spectrum! 

 Non-contact inductive chargers have been around for some time, the General Motors EV-1 electric car used one to recharge the battery, most electric toothbrushes use one as well.


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>
> Talbot Andrew wrote:
> > More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.  
> > Do these people not understand basic engineering?
> > 
> > _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm_
> > 
> > Andy  G4JNT
> 
> Andy, you haven't taken into account the "quest for funding" aspect of the 
> problem...
> They probably have devised a way to ask for research funding. Given that the 
> commission that will evaluate that request 
> will be composed by disgruntled and under-payed public officers, they won't 
> understand that it is an hoax, and will 
> grant the fundings. And even if someone of them should have doubts, there are no 
> doubts that cannot be dissipated with a 
> check... And the citizens will be happy, as their money was rightfully used to 
> bring forward the state of the knowledge 
> of the human race,,,
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> 



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Hello all ,

The grayline is on the US coasts! XGJ and XNS appear.

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
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Hi All,

Oooooppps!!!

I seem to have misread the noisy qrss characters & now see that it was
RA3YO, sorry for the error.

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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is ON ( full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Hi all on the list !

Last night , poor conditions also !
i copy on the grabber :

WD2XNS and WD2XES
Low level static activity
Middle level noise

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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Mike,

-I use a heatgun to get those cores out without breaking them.

OK too late for the sign at the top of the cliff... I am now in need of the 
ambulance down in the valley.

J. 




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Dear LF Group,

I'll try sending this again...

-----Original Message-----
From: james moritz [mailto:j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk]=20
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Subject: RE: LPF coils and VY1JA to 1W ERP

Dear J, LF Group,

If the low-pass filter is introducing a small phase shift, it could be
because:

1)The component values are off a bit. The various reactances in the =
filter
should cancel out at the operating frequency to give a resistive load
impedance at the input of the filter. But any error in any component =
value
will result in a net reactive impedance, and so a phase shift. It is =
quite
difficult to produce these components with high accuracy; in particular,
air-cored coils will tend to have their inductance reduced slightly by
nearby metal objects (or increased if close to ferrite cores). Mutual
coupling between the coils would also alter the impedance. I don't know =
what
the capabilities of an MFJ-257 are, but most of these analysers are
specified for 1.8MHz and above - if measuring at 1.8MHz, the apparent =
coil
inductance will be different to that measured at 137kHz due to =
distributed
capacitance, varying permeability etc. If actually measuring at 137kHz, =
the
accuracy of the instrument may be degraded.

2)The filter design does not actually give you a resistive input =
impedance.
The way LC low-pass filters actually "reject" unwanted frequencies is by
producing a huge impedance mismatch at the unwanted high frequencies =
(where
the input impedance is almost all reactance and no resistance),
transitioning around the cut-off frequency to a small, but usually not =
zero,
mismatch within the wanted frequency range (mostly resistance with a =
small
reactance component). Even well below the cut-off frequency, most =
low-pass
filter designs result in some small mismatch at most frequencies. It is
possible to design filters with a perfect match at one or more spot
frequencies, but this depends on the design method used.

Either way, you could get back to a resistive load at the filter input =
by
re-tuning the antenna to produce a slightly reactive load at the output =
of
the filter, which will cancel the reactance introduced by the filter. =
Or,
you could try adding or subtracting 1 or 2 turns from the toroidal =
coils. In
any case, if the phase shift is only a few degrees, it won't make much
difference to the TX.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU





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Hi all on the list !

By looking at the captures of night ,
it appears a small traces of
WD2XES between 01:30 and 03:30


Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Hi Gary,

You don't need to modify the user profiles in SL after installing a new 
soundcard (or copying everything to a new machine). The sampling rates 
are saved in the MCONFIG.INI file ('machine configuration'). So all you 
need to do is modify that file with a text editor, or through the config 
box.  There will be some section like this :

[SOUNDCARD]
...
Calib05512=5512.000
Calib08000=8000.000
Calib11025=11025.000
...

The parameter name contains the 'nominal' sampling rate which must not 
be changed. The value after the '=' character is the 'calibrated' 
sampling rate.

Have a nice weekend,
 73 Wolf DL4YHF



Gary - G4WGT schrieb:
> Hi LF,
>
> Having replaced the PC last week I found that even though I was using the
> same second sound card & same SpecLab usr profiles imported from my previous
> PC the sound card sampling & therefore my SpecLab accuracy must have been
> severely effected.
>   



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Hi LF,

Having replaced the PC last week I found that even though I was using the
same second sound card & same SpecLab usr profiles imported from my previous
PC the sound card sampling & therefore my SpecLab accuracy must have been
severely effected.

All is ok now.

Thanks to all who replied to my mails.

73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp


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Dear Manuel,

I did listen for your recent JASON transmission, but I regret that I was not
able to copy anything.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Manuel Santos
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Ami Jean-Pierre M�r�:

Merci pour avoir mis ton GRABBER II pour la bande de 136320 la nuit
vendredi.

Le programme JASON est tr�s sensible aux variations de fr�quence.

Ils m'ont seulement re�u bien pr�s de Madrid.

De nouveau je recommencerai � �prouver avec plus de puissance et plus de
stabilit�.

Une embrassade

EA4BVZ  Manuel Santos






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VY1JA just completed with VE7TIL to complete the most coveted award yet 
on 2200m 'Worked All VE7'

After months of struggling with high urban noise and lately wind storms 
blowing over my loading coil...  We completed at QRSS30 during the early 
evening hours.  Condx at first were poor with much QSB at my end but 
later the condx improved to solid audible copy at both ends as we 
completed. Looking at J's beacon signal now we would have been able to 
complete at QRSS3 or CW had we decided to try in the early hours of this 
morning. But after months of trying at higher speeds only to have fade 
outs or my neighbour's light dimmer(s) come on to wreck things we 
decided to take the slow but sure path while my antenna was still 
upright and his new amp functional.

VY1JA VE7TIL E
VE7TIL VY1JA RO E
RO RO E
TU E
73 E

The path from TIL to JA is about 1500Km.

73 Scott





 


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He still has a telegraph.

73 Scott


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hamilton mal wrote:
> The DK7 beacon loud and clear here in Scarboro today Sunday at 1500z on 137
> khz. It is loud enough for a cw qso.
> It says qsl via telephone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV



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The DK7 beacon loud and clear here in Scarboro today Sunday at 1500z on 137
khz. It is loud enough for a cw qso.
It says qsl via telephone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Would the next setting be
SMOKE - 0W ?



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Hi Nic

8 FETs in 4 push pull modules combined with a 4 port Wilkinson combiner. 
Combiner provides LPFing.  SWR protection is included on the output. 

See: http://imagenisp.ca/jsm/VA7LF.html

It has two settings:
STUNT - 1200W
KILL - 2400W

and a little known possibility for a third setting but you really must 
be mad to suggest I try it.  I have about double the PSU capability of 
what it needs but not the courage to try...

I use a supplementary 400W amp to 'quantify' the antenna match then 
switch in the big amp.  Just makes the switching requirements easier and 
safer for the system as a whole.

73 Scott

Nick Mclean (SYD) wrote:
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> 73's
> Nic McLean
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>>> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
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>> Natural coil cooling.... friendly to the enviroment, efficient and
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Hi Nic- any action on the LF band front in VK yet?
73
 Dave, ZL3FJ

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What design is your PA?
73's
Nic McLean
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>> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
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>> silly boy...won't you ever learn?
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> Natural coil cooling.... friendly to the enviroment, efficient and
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What design is your PA?
73's
Nic McLean
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>> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
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This is merely the 'stun' setting.  I can't run 2400W as the antenna 
turns into a Tesla coil.

Scott

J. Allen wrote:
> Steve,
>
>> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
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>> silly boy...won't you ever learn?
>>
> Natural coil cooling.... friendly to the enviroment, efficient and free.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> J. 
>
>
>
>


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Steve,

>1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
> 
> silly boy...won't you ever learn?
> 
Natural coil cooling.... 
friendly to the enviroment, efficient and free.

Hmmm.

J.  





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Hi J & group,

I have prepared two configurations for you, and a step-by-step procedure 
to "install" them:

To configure SpecLab for QRSS60 / DFCW60 :

- install the latest version from
  http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html ,
 or try this direct link to the file:
  http://www.ssl7.com/dl4yhf/speclab/install_speclab_061126.zip


For "normal" DFCW/QRSS (the simple ones without J's divide-by-200 ):

- start SpecLab

- Configure your RX/TX switching hardware:
   "Options".."System Settings".."RX/TX Interface" .
  For example, select "COM2" and "PTT Control:RTS"

- In the main menu, select
      "Quick Settings" ..
     .. "Slow Morse RECEPTION"
       .. "Slow CW, 30 sec/dot" (etc)

- The program now asks for the AUDIO center frequency,
  enter something like 1000 Hz (depending on your RX).

- Click "Yes" when the program asks
   "Also configure the digimode terminal to TRANSMIT
    QRSS / DFCW ?"

- On the next screen, check "DCFW" (or uncheck for QRSS),
  set "soft amplitude transitions" if you have a "linear" TX,
  and set "beacon mode" if you want an endless transmission,

- Now the digimode terminal opens up; enter the text to send
  in the "Transmit" window, add at least one space at the end
  for beacon mode (to have a gap there) .

- Press F10 to start transmission
   (or click RX/TX switch until the LED turns red)
  (Note: it may take one symbol time until the transmission
   actually starts, so be patient with QRSS/DFCW60 ! )

That's all for the basic settings !

   -...-    -...-

These "special" settings for VY1JA are not contained in the SpecLab 
archive,
you can download them separately from here:

  http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/speclab/vy1ja.zip

How to "install" these settings:
After downloading, unzip the *.USR files into the
'configurations' subdirectory. If you installed SL
into the default directory, that would be:
     c:\Spectrum\configurations\VY1JA_QRSS30.USR
 and c:\Spectrum\configurations\VY1JA_QRSS60.USR .

Then start SL again. In the main menu, select
  "Quick Settings"..
  .."Load and Create user defined settings"
    .."Import"..
 and select VY1JA_QRSS30.USR (which in fact is DFCW 30sec/dot)
        or  VY1JA_QRSS60.USR (which in fact is DFCW 60sec/dot) .
 These settings have an audio center frequency of 1000 Hz
  and a DWCF shift 200-times larger than "normal", to be used
  in J's frequency-dividing exciter.
 The frequency shift can be modifed anytime as follows:
  - In the terminal window(!), select
    "Settings".."Digimode Configuration". The amount of shift
    between DFCW-"dots" (=lower frequency) and "dashes"(higher freq)
    can be entered in the field labelled "Frequency shift or span".
Furthermore, these special settings use the internal VOX  to key the 
transmitter (kind of full-BK mode), so the TRX will switch back from TX 
to RX while there is no audio sent to the soundcard.
If the switching relays make too much noise, disable the VOX-circuit in 
SL's circuit window:
- From the main window(!), select "View/Windows" / "Spectrum Lab 
Components" .
   The VOX is the small box near the "PTT" block.
   To turn the VOX of, click into the source connector,
   and set the source signal to "none". The PTT will then
   be controlled entirely by the terminal, which keeps the PTT
   output "on" as long as the terminal wants to send data.

If you don't get this to work properly, and/or Rick's easier-to-use QRSS 
doesn't work for your special application, please let me know.
As mentioned earlier, I have never tried QRSS60 / DFCW60 myself (with 
any program) ... ;-)

Best regards,
  Wolf DL4YHF .

 .-.-.
 


J. Allen schrieb:
> Hello again, All,
>
> Spectrum Lab apparently will have a very large learning curve toward 
> success for me.  Success means to use the software to key the PTT on 
> the RTS line for DFCW transmissions, and to shift the AF by 40 Hz. up 
> for dah and back down for dit.  The 40 Hz. shift is necessary because 
> a divide by 200 is used between the TS450 transceiver which acts as 
> the VFO and the 137 kHz. output which drives the amp.
>
> Is there s quick primer on someone's site which shows how to set up 
> DFCW only?
>
> Thanks,
>
> J.
>
>
>
>



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Hello J. and group,

I haven't used DFCW60 myself yet, which you can tell from the fact that 
DFCW60 isn't in the "preconfigured settings" in the digimode terminal 
(though it's possible to send DFCW60 with any audio frequency pair). No 
experiences here if DFCW30 or DFCW60 would be best suited for the path, 
but anyway - I will prepare two settings (config files which can be 
easily loaded into SL) which I will upload later tonight.
Since most of use use a "shift" of 2 or 3 Hz for QRSS3, I guess 0.3 to 
0.15 Hz would be ok for QRSS30 and QRSS60, respectively. For your 
divide-by-200 exciter, the shift would be 60 Hz (QRSS30) and 30 Hz (for 
QRSS60). Anyone please correct me on this if I'm wrong.

Will let you know when the files are uploaded, along with a short 
description how to start it.

Best regards,
  Wolf .




J. Allen schrieb:
> Hello Wolf,
>
> Thanks for your offer of help!
>
> I can offset the VFO to accommodate most anything within the SSB 
> bandpass, but how is this?
> 1000 Hz = dit
> 1020 Hz = dah
>
> I use USB mode setting and then add 1 kHz to the TS450 display reading 
> (27.555.73 - 1 = 27.554.73 display for carrier and dit freq.).  I then 
> divide the results by 200 for converting ~27,555.73 kHz to ~0.13777865 
> kHz, I will have a 0.1 Hz separation between dit and dah.
>
> Is 0.1 Hz. the correct separation?
> Is this enough information?
>
> J.
> VY1JA
> vy1ja@northwestel.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 2006/11/26 16:16
> Subject: Re: LF: Spectrum Lab
>
>
>> Hello J.,
>>
>> Which audio center frequency (in Hertz), and which DFCW keying speed 
>> do you need ? I could prepare a config file for you to send QRSS 
>> through the soundcard, using the serial port to key the transmitter.
>>
>> The difference between "dits" and "dashes" can be set to anything you 
>> like on SL's "digimode" terminal (it's "frequency shift or span" 
>> parameter on the digimode config screen).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
>>
>> J. Allen schrieb:
>>> Hello again, All,
>>>
>>> Spectrum Lab apparently will have a very large learning curve toward 
>>> success for me.  Success means to use the software to key the PTT on 
>>> the RTS line for DFCW transmissions, and to shift the AF by 40 Hz. 
>>> up for dah and back down for dit.  The 40 Hz. shift is necessary 
>>> because a divide by 200 is used between the TS450 transceiver which 
>>> acts as the VFO and the 137 kHz. output which drives the amp.
>>>
>>> Is there s quick primer on someone's site which shows how to set up 
>>> DFCW only?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



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Wolf,

I do not know the standard for international DFCW beaconing.  Is it 30 or 60 
second dit?
That would be the speed I would want to set.

J. 




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Hello Wolf,

Thanks for your offer of help!

I can offset the VFO to accommodate most anything within the SSB bandpass, 
but how is this?
1000 Hz = dit
1020 Hz = dah

I use USB mode setting and then add 1 kHz to the TS450 display reading 
(27.555.73 - 1 = 27.554.73 display for carrier and dit freq.).  I then 
divide the results by 200 for converting ~27,555.73 kHz to ~0.13777865 kHz, 
I will have a 0.1 Hz separation between dit and dah.

Is 0.1 Hz. the correct separation?
Is this enough information?

J.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolf DL4YHF" <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
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> Hello J.,
>
> Which audio center frequency (in Hertz), and which DFCW keying speed do 
> you need ? I could prepare a config file for you to send QRSS through the 
> soundcard, using the serial port to key the transmitter.
>
> The difference between "dits" and "dashes" can be set to anything you like 
> on SL's "digimode" terminal (it's "frequency shift or span" parameter on 
> the digimode config screen).
>
> Cheers,
>  Wolf  DL4YHF .
>
> J. Allen schrieb:
>> Hello again, All,
>>
>> Spectrum Lab apparently will have a very large learning curve toward 
>> success for me.  Success means to use the software to key the PTT on the 
>> RTS line for DFCW transmissions, and to shift the AF by 40 Hz. up for dah 
>> and back down for dit.  The 40 Hz. shift is necessary because a divide by 
>> 200 is used between the TS450 transceiver which acts as the VFO and the 
>> 137 kHz. output which drives the amp.
>>
>> Is there s quick primer on someone's site which shows how to set up DFCW 
>> only?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




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Hello J.,

Which audio center frequency (in Hertz), and which DFCW keying speed do 
you need ? I could prepare a config file for you to send QRSS through 
the soundcard, using the serial port to key the transmitter.

The difference between "dits" and "dashes" can be set to anything you 
like on SL's "digimode" terminal (it's "frequency shift or span" 
parameter on the digimode config screen).

Cheers,
  Wolf  DL4YHF .

J. Allen schrieb:
> Hello again, All,
>
> Spectrum Lab apparently will have a very large learning curve toward 
> success for me.  Success means to use the software to key the PTT on 
> the RTS line for DFCW transmissions, and to shift the AF by 40 Hz. up 
> for dah and back down for dit.  The 40 Hz. shift is necessary because 
> a divide by 200 is used between the TS450 transceiver which acts as 
> the VFO and the 137 kHz. output which drives the amp.
>
> Is there s quick primer on someone's site which shows how to set up 
> DFCW only?
>
> Thanks,
>
> J.
>
>
>
>



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Hello again, All,

Spectrum Lab apparently will have a very large learning curve toward success 
for me.  Success means to use the software to key the PTT on the RTS line 
for DFCW transmissions, and to shift the AF by 40 Hz. up for dah and back 
down for dit.  The 40 Hz. shift is necessary because a divide by 200 is used 
between the TS450 transceiver which acts as the VFO and the 137 kHz. output 
which drives the amp.

Is there s quick primer on someone's site which shows how to set up DFCW 
only?

Thanks,

J. 




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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XKO
+ a tune at 02:35 on 137779~ (test XES?)
Low static level
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
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Talbot Andrew wrote:
> More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.  
> Do these people not understand basic engineering?
> 
> _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm_
> 
> Andy  G4JNT

Andy, you haven't taken into account the "quest for funding" aspect of the problem...
They probably have devised a way to ask for research funding. Given that the commission that will evaluate that request 
will be composed by disgruntled and under-payed public officers, they won't understand that it is an hoax, and will 
grant the fundings. And even if someone of them should have doubts, there are no doubts that cannot be dissipated with a 
check... And the citizens will be happy, as their money was rightfully used to bring forward the state of the knowledge 
of the human race,,,

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Andy,

On the webpage you refer to I read:
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To overcome this problem, the team investigated a special class of 
"non-radiative" objects with so-called "long-lived resonances".
When energy is applied to these objects it remains bound to them, rather 
than escaping to space. "Tails" of energy, which can be many metres long, 
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to these tails then it turns out that the energy can tunnel from one object 
to another," said Professor Soljacic.
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Somehow this sounds familiar to me (in particular the last sentence). Maybe 
from the manual of my dip-meter ...
A more known word for "long-lived resonances" may be "high-Q LC circuit".

Further I don't read anything about possible absorbance (= reduced 
efficiency, maybe unwanted heating) by the many object that will be near 
the "long-lived resonances" in a real-world situation.
I guess the computer simulation mentioned assumed a situation somewhere in 
outer space.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:52 16/11/2006 +0000, you wrote:

>More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.
>Do these people not understand basic engineering?
>
><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm 
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On the webpage you refer to I read:<br>
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problem, the team investigated a special class of
&quot;non-radiative&quot; objects with so-called &quot;long-lived
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When energy is applied to these objects it remains bound to them, rather
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Somehow this sounds familiar to me (in particular the last sentence).
Maybe from the manual of my dip-meter ...<br>
A more known word for &quot;long-lived resonances&quot; may be
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Further I don't read anything about possible absorbance (= reduced
efficiency, maybe unwanted heating) by the many object that will be near
the &quot;long-lived resonances&quot; in a real-world situation.<br>
I guess the computer simulation mentioned assumed a situation somewhere
in outer space.<br><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD<br><br>
At 09:52 16/11/2006 +0000, you wrote:<br><br>
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Andy, Does this mean that when it goes public I can buy a house in the  
middle of a big housing estate fully equip with "resonant antennae" and nick a  bit 
of electrical power from each of my many neighbours?
If so, how will they work out the amount I've nicked from each one to  charge 
me with theft?
 
 
 
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Hey Andy

Wouldn't this interfere with BPL?

73 Scott


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In a message dated 16/11/2006 09:54:42 GMT Standard Time,  
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More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after  reading it.   
Do these people not  understand basic engineering?  
_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm_ 
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm)   


Woweeeeeeeee
 
Now isn't that just amazing, or would "crazy" be a better  word?
 
I'm rather more gobsmacked than annoyed, but obviously the answer to  your 
question is a resounding "NO"
 
"Tails of energy" do sound rather appealing though, and think how much  more 
efficient radio transmission would be too if the transmitter just  reabsorbed 
all the energy that wasn't actually taken up by receivers.
Perhaps someone should recommend that to the BBC, and hint at a license fee  
reduction:-)
 
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More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.   
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Hello John ,

Yes it is an error ! I saw well XNS and I noted XES ! not well to age !!!=
!!

73 qro J-P f1afj


John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> WD2XES was not on the air last night! The visible traces are from=20
> WD2XNS on 137.781 kHz.
>
> John Andrews
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote:
>>
>> Hi all on the list !
>>
>> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
>> WD2XGJ and WD2XES ( traces only )
>>
>> Middle noise level
>> Low static level
>>
>> Captures of the night are on :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
>> "Capture-5" go back in time
>>
>> the files of night are filed each day at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>
>>
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Jean-Pierre,

WD2XES was not on the air last night! The visible traces are from WD2XNS 
on 137.781 kHz.

John Andrews

Jean-Pierre M�r� wrote:
> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ and WD2XES ( traces only )
> 
> Middle noise level
> Low static level
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> 
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ and WD2XES ( traces only )

Middle noise level
Low static level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Hi J, that sounds like a good idea. The only comment I would make after a
lot of listening for weak stations is that all the other "possibles" like
Loran lines peeping above the noise occasionally are very stable, or like TV
timebases very UNstable. Your signal was spotted because of the small
"switch on drift" it might have been there before but been dismissed as not
important. However the one thing that few signals from other sources do is
shift frequency in a systematic way. this can be DFCW  with a narrow shift
(0.1Hz) at that dot-speed. I have suggested to other beacons that they move
frequency by a small amount (0.1Hz?, but depends on the speed used ) to a
set regime, like every 10 minutes. In Europe this can be particularly useful
when looking for very weak signals above 150kHz  where we have loads of BC
station artifacts. One has to be careful as there is a visual integrating
effect where the receiver can spot a line on the screen, amongst the snow,
only after several minutes. Moving too rapidly or DFCWing too great a shift
can destroy that effect. This shows that super-stable signals are not always
the best :-))

Well Done, you worked hard for that.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: J. Allen <vy1ja@northwestel.net>
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Subject: LF: VY1JA beacon protocol changes.


> John, Hartmut, Steve, Scott, and "The Gang",
>
> Upon advisement, VY1JA is now beaconing with 3:1 dot ratio, and 60 second
> dot length.  The time is sychronized daily to NIST and, "JA" is sent every
> half-hour, with a , "VY1JA", 6 WPM morse ID following.  The beacon
transmits
> in synchronism every 30 minutes.  Transmissions are still on ~137778.65.
>
> This should make the signal easier to identify and detect and for those
with
> software and capability to receive CW which is only synchronized to the
> computer clock on the half-hour and a computer clock synchronized to NIST
> once per day.
>
> If there is anything which I can do beyond these things to make the signal
> easier to detect, I am not aware of it.
>
> Good luck, (and Hartmut, your card is in the mail box in front of the
> general store waiting for pickup tomorrow.)
>
> 73,
>
> J.
>
>
>



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Good signals from XGJ and RA3YO,captured 23:30 UTC

73
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:01:13 -0800 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
writes:
> Strike my last.  I'm going to knock on the neighbour's door and ask 
> them 
> to desist from running whatever piece of junk they are using.  It 
> wipes 
> then entire LF band from 2200m to 600m and even causes TVI and 
> interference on HF.
> 
> 73 Scott
>


Ah man

Scott just hope it isnt one of those things that collate the space/time
continuum
if it is dont make them angry !

Bob K3DJC


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Strike my last.  I'm going to knock on the neighbour's door and ask them 
to desist from running whatever piece of junk they are using.  It wipes 
then entire LF band from 2200m to 600m and even causes TVI and 
interference on HF.

73 Scott


Scott Tilley wrote:
> A new noise source is interfering with tests with VY1JA.  I have QSY'd 
> away from the NA watering hole to the bottom of the band centered on 
> 136.4KHz.
>
> I'll return to the waterhole when my tests with J. are complete.
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL - CN89lg
>
>


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A new noise source is interfering with tests with VY1JA.  I have QSY'd 
away from the NA watering hole to the bottom of the band centered on 
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I'll return to the waterhole when my tests with J. are complete.

73 Scott
VE7TIL - CN89lg


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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XES , WD2XNS

Low static activity
High noise level

Captures of the night are on :
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please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Very strong reception also dear Jean Pierre (maybe audible)
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

Hello  Hall ,

What is "intruder" transmission !

22:05 > 22:15 on  ~137.7796

Grabber :  http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre   f1afj   JN06ht





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Hello Hall ,

What is "intruder" transmission !

22:05 > 22:15 on ~137.7796

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht







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Hi Andy,

> Slight Saturation in the core causing a loss in inductance at high power
> perhaps?

No, the tests were performed with the same transmitter at the same tap and 
power output through the same coax to the same dummy load.

Also, switching transmitters from the transmitter lent me by Steve, VE7SL, 
to the prototype IR640 amp made no difference in the readings, even at 
approximately double the power.

> Assuming the air wound and cored inductors were adjusted to exactly the 
> same
> values initially.

Yes, they were wound to the same values... as close as possible to 54 uH.

> Direct coupling in the near field from your original air wound coils
> influencing the coupling into the scope of your V and I pickoff, that is 
> not
> present in the closed torroidal cores.

The pickup torroidal cores were enclosed in a metal box in both cases and 
the LPF with the air would coils was about 0.5 meters distant.

> Can you wind the power down and measure the phase difference which would
> show up 1) but not 2)?

The difference is apparent with both with the 80 Watt transmitter and the 
155 Watt transmitter and the dummy load.  I also notice a slight shift added 
to the traces from the antenna, which is why I was asking if I now tune so 
that the transmitter sees a perfect trace because of the shift added by the 
LPF or if (only a perfectionist would tune for this slight of a lag) I tune 
to match the slight current lag, knowing that the indication seen with dummy 
load represents a purely resistive load.

The basic question is this.  Is my instrumentation now in error or is the 
system under measurement in error?

J.

 




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Best reception at sunrise,captured at 7:15 UTC

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Yes, it is very visible!
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the nice report. If you look around 0200, there are two=20
> faint lines that represent my transmissions during my weekly CW QSO=20
> with WD2XNS.
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>
>
>

--=20
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Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu



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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the nice report. If you look around 0200, there are two faint 
lines that represent my transmissions during my weekly CW QSO with WD2XNS.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES




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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very good conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ , WD2XES , WD2XNS

Low static activity
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XNS , WD2XGJ , WD2XKO

Very good signal of XGJ at the US grayline  !

Low static level
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Captures of the night are on :
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the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Nice copy of UA4WPF on 137.7772 kHz a few minutes ago. Uploaded a
capture to my website:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm

73
Hartmut
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Hello John,

Sorry for going this route, but I've lost your personal address.
The last two messages I've sent to the LowFER List have not
been posted, but rather I get a message back stating that they
are being held for moderator review.  What have I done!!??

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hi Gary

Was RA3YO on about 137.777

73
Hartmut=20

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gary - G4WGT
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. November 2006 10:35
An: LF (Rsgb LF Group)
Betreff: LF: RU3L? Last Nite

Hi All,

I switched the Rx on at 2200z last nite using SpecLab at qrss60 & from =
2200z
on my first capture saw RU3L? At about 137784.5Hz, not sure about =
correct
frequency as the Rx had only just been switched on & was still warming =
up.
Saw 4 characters ok but last one was not completely readable. No other
traces seen.

There was a lot off static at the time (& all nite), please excuse the =
drift
as the Rx warm up drift is about 1.5Hz.

Will RU3L? Or someone confirm the signal.

73

Gary - G4WGT=20

IO83qp



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Jean-Pierre, JB

Thanks for the reports. Shut down at 8:40 EST...in case you noticed the signal disappear JB.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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> Hello Jay, LFer's,
> 
> I took this capture at 13:30 UTC (8:30 EST), one of the
> most solid for the time of day that I've seen in a while.
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
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73
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Ok Warren no problem ! 21:00 utc tomorrow for start my Grabber .

73 J-P afj

Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 a =E9crit :
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>
>   Thank you for the report.=20
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> Perhaps you can start the grabber before 22:00UTC and I will start WD2X=
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> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Jean-Pierre M=EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
>  =20
>> Hello Warren and all ,
>>
>>
>> Very strong signal WD2XGJ now !
>>
>>
>> Captures of the night are on :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
>> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
>> "Capture-5" go back in time
>>
>> the files of night are filed each day at :
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
>>
>>
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thank you for the report. 

Perhaps you can start the grabber before 22:00UTC and I will start WD2XGJ before 22:00 UTC tomorrow.


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> 
> Very strong signal WD2XGJ now !
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Thanks Jean-Pierre, XGJ started transmission at 22:00 UTC today.

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> Hello all ,
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> Nice copy of WD2XGJ now !
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Hello all ,


Nice copy of WD2XGJ now !



Captures of the night are on :
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"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
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73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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A little bird tells me that Rugby Loran is set to continue, maybe until
2012!
When MSF departs for Anthorn they are going to demolish the remaining 1920s
850ft towers and replace them with two new 600ft ones which will support the
Loran aerial.
Our only hope is that there will be some quiet periods whilst they do mast
work.
Boo!

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A little bird tells me that Rugby Loran is set to continue, maybe until 2012!<br>When MSF departs for Anthorn they are going to demolish the remaining 1920s 850ft towers and replace them with two new 600ft ones which will support the Loran aerial.
<br>Our only hope is that there will be some quiet periods whilst they do mast work.<br clear="all">Boo!<br><br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

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Hi Gus,
 
Thanks for testing the link.
 
I saw a few others complain about not getting through the reflector, I do
not know why it happens.
 
I am posting this reply to the reflector as well so your comments about the
reflector access can be noted there.
 
73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp 


  _____  

From: Gus [mailto:begu@algonet.se] 
Sent: 21 November 2006 15:56
To: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Website


Hi Gary,
 
I trye to send the lower part of this mail over the reflector but i was
rejected so i send it direct.
It is not the first time reflector reject me, i don't know what is the
problem.
Bye the way, there is no problem for me open your site.
 
Best 73 de Gus
SM6BHZ
 
Gary,

No problem, the link and your web site works OK from me.

Gus SM6BHZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Hi All,
>
> I will be very pleased if you can test this link to a page in my web site 
> &
> report your findings on access.
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/images.html
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
> 


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reflector, I do not know why it happens.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Gus [mailto:begu@algonet.se]=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is not the first time reflector =
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don't know what is the problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bye the way, there is no problem for me =
open your=20
site.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73 de Gus</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SM6BHZ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gary,<BR><BR>No problem, the link and your web site works OK from=20
me.<BR><BR>Gus SM6BHZ<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: =
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Hello Uwe, Victor and Fabian,

thanks for feedback and screenshots - it seems that the CC-SWLs should have
some chances in spite of the low power! Have just measured the rf voltage at
the feeding point of my Marconi ant: 760 mV at key down (and 300 mV at key
up ;-))

73,
Tom, DK1IS
JN59WK
----- Original Message ----- 
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On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 06:13:14PM +0100, Thomas K�lpin wrote:
> I�ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a
> pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi
> ant, DFCW 20, double space, 5 seconds gap. Text: dk1is 2mw ,
> followed by fast cw id dk1is with 12 bpm. At 20061119-0700 utc I�ll
> change to the usual codeword transmission.
>
> If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!

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73,
-- 
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On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 06:13:14PM +0100, Thomas K=F6lpin wrote:
> I=B4ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a
> pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi
> ant, DFCW 20, double space, 5 seconds gap. Text: dk1is 2mw ,
> followed by fast cw id dk1is with 12 bpm. At 20061119-0700 utc I=B4ll
> change to the usual codeword transmission.
>=20
> If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!

Received in JO61UA, TS850 + 42m wire @ 25m in a very noisy urban
environment:

http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/dk1is-160m-19-11-2006.png

Screenshow shows DK1I and half of the S, with a little interruption in
the 1; would have been perfect copy if I hadn't played with ARGO ;-)

73,
--=20
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
Online Log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html


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Zitat von Thomas K=F6lpin <thomas.koelpin@gmx.net>:

> Hello dear lf group,
>
> to whom it may concern:
>
> I=B4ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a 
> pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi 
> ant, DFCW 20, double space, 5 seconds gap. Text: dk1is 2mw , followed 
> by fast cw id dk1is with 12 bpm. At 20061119-0700 utc I=B4ll change to 
> the usual codeword transmission.
>
> If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!
>
> Vy 73 es cuagn
> Tom, DK1IS
> JN59WK

Hello Tom,
nothing on the screen in JO43SV.
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Hello dear lf group,

to whom it may concern:

I=B4ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a =
pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, =
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cw id dk1is with 12 bpm. At 20061119-0700 utc I=B4ll change to the usual =
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If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!

Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
JN59WK
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Ooopppsssss !
Kp =3D 6     now !

73 f1afj

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
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It could have been worse.  See Frederic Brown's short story The Waveries in=
 which all electrical and radio phenomena were disrupted.

73
John

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On 07/11/2006 at 01:11 k2ors@comcast.net wrote:

>Hi Scott  and the list,
>
>   It seems that Professor Olmstead was an emminent Scientist, although
>his theory on telegraph lines and lightning has not been born out he
>appears to be the first to associate periodic meteor showers and comets.
>
>http://docsouth.unc.edu/bios/pn0001301_bio.html
>
>
>"He published many scientific papers, including those on the thermometric
>observations made by Dr. Joseph Caldwell in 1820-22, his thoughts on the
>causes of hailstorms (1830), and the behavior of lightning (1850). By his
>detailed observations of the famous meteor shower of 13 Nov. 1833, he
>established the periodicity of such falls and their origin by matter from
>outside the earth's atmosphere revolving around the sun, perhaps derived
>from comets. "
>
>--
>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
>FN42hi
>http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
>> While reading the morning paper, Canada's 'Globe and Mail' I found this 
>> interesting little quip:
>> 
>> "On this date in 1847, The Globe reported: 'The various wires of 
>> telegraph beginning to intersect so many sections of our country are 
>> said to have a decided effect upon electricity. That eminent scientific 
>> man, Prof. Olmstead of Yale College, states, that as the storm comes up 
>> and especially when over the wires, say 50 or 100 miles distant, the 
>> lightning is attracted by the wires... 'It is my opinion,' he says, 
>> 'that we shall never have very heavy thundershowers or hear of lightning=
 
>> striking, so long as we have telegraph wires spread over the Earth.' ' "
>> 
>> Source: Glode and Mail, Monday, November 6, 2006
>> 
>> If this where only true! Or, perhaps the demise of the telegraph and the=
 
>> rise of radio did us all in and doomed us to thunderstorm static forever
>;-)
>> 
>> 73 Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>






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Hi Scott  and the list,

   It seems that Professor Olmstead was an emminent Scientist, although his theory on telegraph lines and lightning has not been born out he appears to be the first to associate periodic meteor showers and comets.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/bios/pn0001301_bio.html


"He published many scientific papers, including those on the thermometric observations made by Dr. Joseph Caldwell in 1820-22, his thoughts on the causes of hailstorms (1830), and the behavior of lightning (1850). By his detailed observations of the famous meteor shower of 13 Nov. 1833, he established the periodicity of such falls and their origin by matter from outside the earth's atmosphere revolving around the sun, perhaps derived from comets. "

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
> While reading the morning paper, Canada's 'Globe and Mail' I found this 
> interesting little quip:
> 
> "On this date in 1847, The Globe reported: 'The various wires of 
> telegraph beginning to intersect so many sections of our country are 
> said to have a decided effect upon electricity. That eminent scientific 
> man, Prof. Olmstead of Yale College, states, that as the storm comes up 
> and especially when over the wires, say 50 or 100 miles distant, the 
> lightning is attracted by the wires... 'It is my opinion,' he says, 
> 'that we shall never have very heavy thundershowers or hear of lightning 
> striking, so long as we have telegraph wires spread over the Earth.' ' "
> 
> Source: Glode and Mail, Monday, November 6, 2006
> 
> If this where only true! Or, perhaps the demise of the telegraph and the 
> rise of radio did us all in and doomed us to thunderstorm static forever ;-)
> 
> 73 Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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While reading the morning paper, Canada's 'Globe and Mail' I found this 
interesting little quip:

"On this date in 1847, The Globe reported: 'The various wires of 
telegraph beginning to intersect so many sections of our country are 
said to have a decided effect upon electricity. That eminent scientific 
man, Prof. Olmstead of Yale College, states, that as the storm comes up 
and especially when over the wires, say 50 or 100 miles distant, the 
lightning is attracted by the wires... 'It is my opinion,' he says, 
'that we shall never have very heavy thundershowers or hear of lightning 
striking, so long as we have telegraph wires spread over the Earth.' ' "

Source: Glode and Mail, Monday, November 6, 2006

If this where only true! Or, perhaps the demise of the telegraph and the 
rise of radio did us all in and doomed us to thunderstorm static forever ;-)

73 Scott






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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ

Very high level of noise ! Kp = 4 ??????????
Low level static activity


Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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 Hi all !

Under the message from ED :
- he has problems with  TX-part
- he will not make  beacon by this night

73!Vlad



9 ������ 2006 �., 23:13:00 you wrote :

mac> Hi Ed,
mac> �
mac> nice and strong signal here, about 2 �V/m at 19:40z.
mac> Perhaps some�oscillator jitter?
mac> �
mac> 73 + gl 
mac> de Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK
mac> �



  



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73 + gl=20
de Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK
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Very good copy of the RU6LA's beacon on 136.321 QRSS 60 (30 dB S/N) 
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Of what is he a professor?  Media studies?   I should hope not at M.I.T. but
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More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.   
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If you have a few broken ones, try some super glue on one of them and =
measure the inductance of a single turn on a good core then the glued =
core and see if it is down on the glued core. A heatgun should take it =
back apart if you want to try another glue type later. Epoxy like JB =
Weld or some sort of metal bearing epoxy may work fine.=20
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I use a heatgun to get those cores out without breaking them.


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Hartmut, Jean Pierre

Thanks for the reports.=20

I can see by the captures that I forgot to reconnect the 10 MHz GPS =
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Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good T/A conditions last night. Captures of WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS
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  http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


  I'm not listening overnight on 137 kHz for a while, because I need my
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  73
  Hartmut
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the reports. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can see by the&nbsp;captures that I =
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Hi All,

Nothing much due to poor conditions & high static levels.

The only complete captures are RA3YO & G3XIZ

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/page14.html

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ
Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Hi Ed,
Your signal first seen about 14:00utc now at 15:00 good solid "O" copy
Best of luck.
73 Laurie IO90nt

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Hi Ed,<br>
Your signal first seen about 14:00utc now at 15:00 good solid &quot;O&quot; copy<br>
Best of luck.<br>
73 Laurie IO90nt<br>

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Thanks Jean-Pierre for the report!

I may have to shut WD2XGJ down early due to heavy storms approaching...

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> Hi   Hartmut ,
> XGJ also visible on the Grabber !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> Hartmut Wolff a �crit :
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Hartmut,

   Thank you for the report!  

I turned XGJ on at 20:00 UTC today.


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> 73
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Hi   Hartmut ,
XGJ also visible on the Grabber !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> XGJ visible here since about 20:00 UTC
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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>
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Hello Hall ,

The grabber has found all senssibility, for 3 days it missed 6 to 8 dB 
on the receiver (following the modifications of the antennas, I had 
caused a dysfunction! ) it is repaired now

Grabber : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht








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Hello all ,


Good copy of WD2XGJ now !



Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Hello Tracey,

Thank you for sharing that link with us. I downloaded all parts of the =
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  Hello Conard

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Hello Conard

You'll find a copy of the Operating and Service Manuals on the Agilent web 
site

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/facet.jspx?kt=1&cc=GB&lc=eng&k=3586a

73s Tracey

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> Hey Gang,
> I'm just getting an old 3586B settled into the shack. I had to clean up a 
> mess on some sort of power board with a very rotten Nicad battery before I 
> could get it to run. Now, I'm getting a CE-d message when I let auto-cal 
> run. Can anyone translate that error into words? Anyone out  there with an 
> electronic copy of the service manual for this beast?
> Thanks,
> Conard, WS4S
> WD2XSH/11
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Hi Alan & Wolf,

Thanks for the comments & advice, I have had the Rx off for a week & was
switched on again last night for use with the new PC.

Wolf, I will look at the MCONFIG.INI file & familiarise myself with that, I
have not worked with SpecLab to that level yet but I have seen so much
versitility in the software by reading the SpecLab Group mails.

73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia
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Hi Gary, if you use your RX like I do and it never gets switched
off......there is a little problem I found with this. The AOR 7030 has 2.56
Hz steps but 10Hz indicaton. It sits on frequency for months on end and I
never need to adjust the cal on my waterfalls. But switch the power off and
when it comes back on (even with the tuning "locked") it jumps to the
nearest 10Hz step. I guess this is because the memory only stores the last
frequency to that resolution, not to the tuning step size. I suppose having
tuned in the frequency on the dail you should switch off and then on again
before doing the waterfall calibration so ensuring you are always exactly on
a 10Hz point.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi LF,
>
> Having replaced the PC last week I found that even though I was using 
> the same second sound card & same SpecLab usr profiles imported from 
> my
previous
> PC the sound card sampling & therefore my SpecLab accuracy must have 
> been severely effected.
>
> All is ok now.
>
> Thanks to all who replied to my mails.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
>



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Mike,

   Welcome back!  I am beaconing w/ approx 1 watt  erp  (modified Decca)  QRSS 
60 on 137.7797.
What frequency/mode do you use?
I'm interested in seeing if we might be able to have a contact.

I will be on tonite after 21:00 UTC 

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
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http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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> I have been off the air for a month whilst holidaying in GW and JY, 
> but am back now with a bigger signal.
> 
> After about a year running just two Decca modules, I am now back to 
> three working units. As I have improved my antenna during that year, 
> my ERP is bigger than I have ever had before, though probably still 
> only around 150mW. 
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
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> 



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I have been off the air for a month whilst holidaying in GW and JY, 
but am back now with a bigger signal.

After about a year running just two Decca modules, I am now back to 
three working units. As I have improved my antenna during that year, 
my ERP is bigger than I have ever had before, though probably still 
only around 150mW. 

Mike, G3XDV
==========



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Hello Jay, LFer's,

I took this capture at 13:30 UTC (8:30 EST), one of the
most solid for the time of day that I've seen in a while.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hi LF,

Captured XKO, XES, XGJ & XNS last nite, see attachment using mini-whip at 25
feet.

73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp

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From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
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Hello Warren,

The circuit diagram is in the attachment.

73,

Roelof
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Hi Warren:


>    Where can I find plans for the PA0LQ filter?

> Thanks,

> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23

Just googled for it:

http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/af_filter.htm

http://www.veron.nl/afd/voorne_putten/Lezing/pa0rdt/PAoLQLF-Filter%5B1%5D.pdf


The following links might also be helpful and interesting

http://xoomer.alice.it/amoroni/Filtro-audio.pdf
http://xoomer.alice.it/amoroni/PCB_Filtro.pdf


-- 
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


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Roelof,

   Where can I find plans for the PA0LQ filter?
Thanks,

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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
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http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
> Hello Dick,
> 
> PA0LQ's filter is now in wide spread use amongst NDB afficiados in favour of 
> DSP filters.
> By increasing the 10 nF capacitors to 27 nF and "stagger tuning" it has been 
> possible to reduce the bandwidth from 30 Hz to 6 Hz with steep slopes.
> At present I am using two of these filters in cascade, 12 Hz and 6 Hz wide 
> at a centre frequency of 500 Hz.
> The fixed tuning resistors have been replaced by multiturn trimmers of 1 K.
> Aligning section 1 and 3 for maximum signal at 495 Hz and section 2 and 4 at 
> 505 Hz, yields a 3 dB bandwidth of 10 Hz. This is wide enough to copy 20 WPM 
> morse code.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>  
> 
> 



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Hello Dick,

PA0LQ's filter is now in wide spread use amongst NDB afficiados in favour of 
DSP filters.
By increasing the 10 nF capacitors to 27 nF and "stagger tuning" it has been 
possible to reduce the bandwidth from 30 Hz to 6 Hz with steep slopes.
At present I am using two of these filters in cascade, 12 Hz and 6 Hz wide 
at a centre frequency of 500 Hz.
The fixed tuning resistors have been replaced by multiturn trimmers of 1 K.
Aligning section 1 and 3 for maximum signal at 495 Hz and section 2 and 4 at 
505 Hz, yields a 3 dB bandwidth of 10 Hz. This is wide enough to copy 20 WPM 
morse code.

Best regards,

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
 



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Hi Dick, to some extent this will depend upon the type of sound-card you
have. I use Alberto's Spectran but Wolf's Spectrum lab will do it. The card
problem we found is that some cards will not operate in duplex
(simulataneous input and output) I have some Creative Labs PCI64 that suffer
from this problem. The PCI128 is OK. I would imagine the later cards are
probably ok. You might find the improvement is not a great as you might
hope......but I am not a "real" CW op !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> To All from PA0SE
>
> Does someone know whether a DSP filter using the sound card of the
computer
> can be found on the internet , that can filter the audio output of the
> receiver with an adjustable bandwidth down to, say, 20Hz or so?
>
> I use a passive audiofilter between the receiver and the headphones with
> four tuned circuits. It has a bandwidth of about 25Hz, a centre frequency
> of 900Hz and a linear phase characteristic to avoid ringing.  But perhaps
a
> DSP filter could do even better.
>
> 73, Dick, PA0SE
> JO22GD
>
>
>



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Dear Victor
my proposal for a radio contact is=20
     Sun 05.11.2006  09.00 UTC A1A qrss3. I will be qrv from abt. 08.30h a=
t my stn.=20
Or Friday 03.11.2006 21.00 UTC


Today I had  a disturbed contact to DK 7 SU, just 20 km away. Mostly noise=
 in the RX. I heaqrd with 479, DK7SU gave me 599 (what is usual for that d=
istance).

Looking forward to Your reply

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND



> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 31.10.06 17:37:07
> An: <rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: RE: LF: DK8ND, tnx Victor


> Dear Hans,
>=20
> when I spotted you I had now time to call you,next sunday will not be a
> problem,just give me a time and we can give it a try.
>=20
> 73
> Victor,
> PA3FNY
>=20
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org]Namens Hans-Albrecht Haffa
> Verzonden: maandag 30 oktober 2006 20:40
> Aan: rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: Re: LF: DK8ND, tnx Victor
>=20
>=20
> Dear Victor,
>=20
> tnx for the fb qrss-report, according to your screenshot abt OO.
> Can You or any other stn respond to my calls=3F I got no Idea how sensitiv=
e my
> stn is now, and how much qrn is usual nowadays and in my urban housing a=
rea.
> I  didnt get well Deutschlandfunk 153 k with AM demodulator with my RX
> EKD300 in good quality last weekend (just for comparison).  With synchro=
nous
> detector it was a bit better. Ant tuned on 136,5 kHz.
> Can You respond to my calls =3F I have seen on my spectrolab screen only s=
now
> (noise) and blue background. Must wait for next weekend for a cw-qso wit=
h DK
> 7 SU, 20 km from me.
>=20
> 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org
> > Gesendet: 29.10.06 11:27:12
> > An: "blacksheep" <rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org>
> > Betreff: LF: DK8ND
>=20
>=20
> > Received at 9:20 UTC
> >
> > 73
> > Victor
> > PA3FNY
> > JO22NC
>=20

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Hi Dick,

   Wolf's Spectrum Laboratory can be used to exactly that. 
http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
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http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Dick Rollema <dickrollema@casema.nl>
> To All from PA0SE
> 
> Does someone know whether a DSP filter using the sound card of the computer 
> can be found on the internet , that can filter the audio output of the 
> receiver with an adjustable bandwidth down to, say, 20Hz or so?
> 
> I use a passive audiofilter between the receiver and the headphones with 
> four tuned circuits. It has a bandwidth of about 25Hz, a centre frequency 
> of 900Hz and a linear phase characteristic to avoid ringing.  But perhaps a 
> DSP filter could do even better.
> 
> 73, Dick, PA0SE
> JO22GD
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To All from PA0SE

Does someone know whether a DSP filter using the sound card of the computer 
can be found on the internet , that can filter the audio output of the 
receiver with an adjustable bandwidth down to, say, 20Hz or so?

I use a passive audiofilter between the receiver and the headphones with 
four tuned circuits. It has a bandwidth of about 25Hz, a centre frequency 
of 900Hz and a linear phase characteristic to avoid ringing.  But perhaps a 
DSP filter could do even better.

73, Dick, PA0SE
JO22GD




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Hi Mal,

These guys do not use QRSS. It is 100% CW by the ear. Speeds range from =
5 to 21 WPM. QRSS by request but the normal signal is plain CW and lots =
of it hand keyed. Many QSO's have taken place so far and there are =
stations on from west coast to east coast and north to south in the USA. =
I think you have a good chance of hearing at least the east coast =
stations. There should be lots of activity from 2200z to 0600z. It can =
be very busy from 0300z to 0600z some evenings. That would be very late =
for you.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
WD2XSH/16
EN35hj

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: hamilton mal
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:15 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500


  Hi Mike=20
  Tnx for the info but I was not monitoring last nite, so probably =
missed all the action. I have seen acty around 505 khz but I did not =
wait around long enough for an ID I think a sensible speed for this band =
should not be slower than qrs 3. My observations show that there is =
considerable QSB on dx signals on this band, more like 160 m at times. I =
worked some USA stns recently on 160 m and the QSB was bad, not always =
the case but recently very noticeable.
  Qrs 30/60/90 etc is far too slow on 500 khz because of the QSB the =
signals are all chopped up and virtually impossible to get an ID.=20
  Some years ago when the band was in use by the marine service I could =
copy ships across the atlantic and out to the far east Japan etc at =
night time pretty well every night but the average ships TX was running =
1kw out and a good inv L anternna, some large ships probably had a 1/4 =
antenna, a big ERP.
  Copy was on normal CW.
  I will look out for acty when time permits.

  73 de Mal/G3KEV
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>These guys do not use QRSS. It is 100% CW by the ear. Speeds range =
from=20
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lots of=20
it hand keyed. Many QSO's have taken place so far and there are stations =
on from=20
west coast to east coast and north to south in the USA. I think you have =
a good=20
chance of hearing at least the east coast stations. There should be lots =
of=20
activity from 2200z to 0600z. It can be very busy from 0300z to 0600z =
some=20
evenings. That would be very late for you.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mike<BR>WE0H<BR>WD2XGI<BR>WD2XSH/16<BR>EN35hj</DIV>
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  <DIV>Tnx for the info but I was not monitoring last nite, so probably =
missed=20
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on dx=20
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  recently on 160 m and the QSB was bad, not always the case but =
recently very=20
  noticeable.</DIV>
  <DIV>Qrs 30/60/90 etc is far too slow on 500 khz because of the QSB =
the=20
  signals are all chopped up and virtually impossible to get an =
ID.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Some years ago when the band was in use by the marine service I =
could=20
  copy ships across the atlantic and out to the far east Japan etc at =
night=20
  time&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;well every night but the average ships TX was =
running=20
  1kw out and a good inv L anternna, some large ships probably had a 1/4 =

  antenna, a big ERP.</DIV>
  <DIV>Copy was on normal CW.</DIV>
  <DIV>I will look out for acty when time permits.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Mal,

The band is very busy tonight with many stations on the air right now =
around 506kc. Everyone is armchair copy in regular CW. At 505.7kc there =
is a 21wpm CW station out of Colorado USA running 100w output to a =
vertical.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
WD2XSH/16
EN35hj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: hamilton mal
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:28 AM
  Subject: LF: 500


  Hi All
  I noticed a burst of acty last nite at 2314z on 505 khz approx. The =
keying
  was fast and lasted 80 secs No ID.
  I was set at qrs 3

  73 G3KEV



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Hello Mall,

if you don't like people who prefer to design and built their own tranceiver
rather than trying to copy cw at 30 wpm or more,why even bother to make
contact..
 73
Victor
PA3FNY


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens hamilton mal
Verzonden: donderdag 2 november 2006 20:38
Aan: rsgb
Onderwerp: LF: gb3sss


GB3SSS 1960 khz  599 on CW at 1700z on my loop, then switched to appliance
operator mode for the majority that cannot copy CW.

G3KEV







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Hello Alan , Warren and all !

I have just read what you have write Alan, it is very interesting and=20
answer perfectly the questions that I was posed! Thank you very much for=20
this explanation.

73qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Both,
> What is more interesting is that the darkness shadow at 100km altitude =
is
> still about 2000km east of Warren at that time. So he is either hefting=
 a
> signal over on a single hop (at least to the UK) or he is D-layer bounc=
ing
> it into the darkness zone. I have my doubts about this last explanation=
 as
> the absorption increases just before sunset. You should see him dip dow=
n in
> strength and then comup to full strength as the two hop path becomes fu=
lly
> dark, This will occur around local sunset, but the darkness shadow at 1=
00km
> altitude will still be 1000km east of Warren.....the position for the f=
irst
> skywave "bounce". It is quite interesting how accurately this ties up w=
ith
> the simple geometry.
> http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/geometry.htm
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 <k2ors@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Cc: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> Sent: 18 November 2006 21:40
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight
>
>
>  =20
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>>    =20
>>> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
>>>      =20
>>   Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:2=
0
>>    =20
> UTC today.
>  =20
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
>> FN42hi
>> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>>
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>>    =20
>>> Hi Warren & LF,
>>>
>>> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolf=
f
>>> Sent: 18 November 2006 20:48
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ tonight
>>>
>>> XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Hartmut
>>> www.h-wolff.de
>>> Locator: JO52hp
>>>
>>>
>>>      =20
>>    =20
>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hi Alan,

      Thanks for the analysis and explanation of the propagation modes. 
I've shut down now 23:20 two hours after local sunset to give the TX and tuner a break, will fire it back up in an hour or so.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
> Hi Both,
> What is more interesting is that the darkness shadow at 100km altitude is
> still about 2000km east of Warren at that time. So he is either hefting a
> signal over on a single hop (at least to the UK) or he is D-layer bouncing
> it into the darkness zone. I have my doubts about this last explanation as
> the absorption increases just before sunset. You should see him dip down in
> strength and then comup to full strength as the two hop path becomes fully
> dark, This will occur around local sunset, but the darkness shadow at 100km
> altitude will still be 1000km east of Warren.....the position for the first
> skywave "bounce". It is quite interesting how accurately this ties up with
> the simple geometry.
> http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/geometry.htm
> 
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 <k2ors@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Cc: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> Sent: 18 November 2006 21:40
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight
> 
> 
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
> >
> >   Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:20
> UTC today.
> >
> > --
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
> > FN42hi
> > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> > > Hi Warren & LF,
> > >
> > > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
> > > Sent: 18 November 2006 20:48
> > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > > Subject: LF: WD2XGJ tonight
> > >
> > > XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Hartmut
> > > www.h-wolff.de
> > > Locator: JO52hp
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Hi Warren it looks good so far tonight.  Steve drained the choke housing and
dried out the antenna at about 1800z and you can see DCF39 flying up to very
good levels at 2300z. I guess the little storm we had on Thursday has spiced
things up a bit.

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Hi Both,
What is more interesting is that the darkness shadow at 100km altitude is
still about 2000km east of Warren at that time. So he is either hefting a
signal over on a single hop (at least to the UK) or he is D-layer bouncing
it into the darkness zone. I have my doubts about this last explanation as
the absorption increases just before sunset. You should see him dip down in
strength and then comup to full strength as the two hop path becomes fully
dark, This will occur around local sunset, but the darkness shadow at 100km
altitude will still be 1000km east of Warren.....the position for the first
skywave "bounce". It is quite interesting how accurately this ties up with
the simple geometry.
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/geometry.htm

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 <k2ors@comcast.net>
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> Hi Gary,
>
> > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
>
>   Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:20
UTC today.
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
> FN42hi
> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> > Hi Warren & LF,
> >
> > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
> > Sent: 18 November 2006 20:48
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Subject: LF: WD2XGJ tonight
> >
> > XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.
> >
> > 73
> > Hartmut
> > www.h-wolff.de
> > Locator: JO52hp
> >
> >
>
>



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Hi Gary,

> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.

  Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:20 UTC today.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> Hi Warren & LF, 
> 
> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.
> 
> 73
> 
> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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> 
> XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
> 
> 



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Hi Warren & LF, 

Same here from 2030 UTC but weak.

73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp



-----Original Message-----
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XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC.

73
Hartmut
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Hey Gang,
I'm just getting an old 3586B settled into the shack. I had to clean up 
a mess on some sort of power board with a very rotten Nicad battery 
before I could get it to run. Now, I'm getting a CE-d message when I let 
auto-cal run. Can anyone translate that error into words? Anyone out  
there with an electronic copy of the service manual for this beast?
Thanks,
Conard, WS4S
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Overall good reception of XGJ last night. Some fading 22:50-23:00 and
02:00-02:30. Only traces of XNS with barely readable signs around
00:30 and 06:00.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


Back on 137kHz now, with daily T/A reports on my website.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
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Hi All
I can hear beacons from all over around 500khz but so far at my listening
times I have not heard any USA amateurs. It would be interesting if anyone
else in EU can hear any amateur acty on a regular basis.
73 de Mal/G3KEV



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Alan, Jean-Pierre, Michel,

Thanks for the reports. XES was only on for an hour, when I noticed the 
low antenna current and high SWR. It was probably due to heavy rain, but 
I decided to just shut it down.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES




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Hi Michel, you may well be right there. I have good captures of Warren
through to about 0500z though John faded out with me at about 0220z. I think
conditions were very stable, not much movement of the ionosphere, so fades
last a long time, not just 20 minutes or half an hour. Jean-Pierre may just
have been in an "unfavourable" location.

73 de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Jean-Pierre and group,
>
> Good copy of WD2XGJ seen almost all the night and WD2XES (2 strings)
>
> It looks like conditions were not evenly distributed across France (Europe
?)
> Located here about 280 km north from F1AFJ (jn18hp)
>
>  73 / Michel f5wk
>
> Le mercredi 8 novembre 2006 � 07:43:01, jpm.f1afj@online.fr a �crit:




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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ and WD2XES

Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Dear LF enthusiasts!

I'll make beacons on abt 136.321 in QRSS60 :

9 Nov from 1330z(sunset in UA6L abt 1350z) up to 10 Nov 0430z (sunrise abt 0425z)
10 Nov from 1330z up to 23z

Pwr abt 100W Output, but abt 5..10W ERP with Big Vertical (abt 2..3A in ant)

Reports are welcome

73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru



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S57A calling CQ received in Milano with E-field antenna on balcony,
about 20dB over noise.

Claudio, IK2PII

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Hi Gary,

thanks for the screenshot - as one might have expected the nighttime 
seems to be the right time for 160 m qrppp! Certainly it was a good 
decision to extend the candlelight test up to 2200 utc. Will see what 
the cdl reports tell.

73,
Tom, DK1IS

Gary - G4WGT schrieb:

> Hi Tom,
>  
> Captured your signal I believe from 2150 uct to 0415 utc, not very 
> strong no full ID seen, see attachment.
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> 73
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> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp
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Hi Gary,<br>
<br>
thanks for the screenshot - as one might have expected the nighttime
seems to be the right time for 160 m qrppp! Certainly it was a good
decision to extend the candlelight test up to 2200 utc. Will see what
the cdl reports tell.<br>
<br>
73,<br>
Tom, DK1IS<br>
<br>
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Hi Tom,
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Captured your signal I believe from 2150 uct to 0415 utc, not very =
strong no
full ID seen, see attachment.
=20
73

Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp=20


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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Thomas K=F6lpin
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Hello dear lf group,
=20
to whom it may concern:
=20
I=B4ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a =
pre-test
on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 20,
double space, 5 seconds gap. Text: dk1is 2mw , followed by fast cw id =
dk1is
with 12 bpm. At 20061119-0700 utc I=B4ll change to the usual codeword
transmission.
=20
If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!
=20
Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Thomas=20
K=F6lpin<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 November 2006 17:13<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Out off topics: =
Candlelight=20
test<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello dear lf group,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to whom it may concern:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I=B4ve just (20061118-1655 utc) started =
my=20
candlelight beacon for a pre-test&nbsp;on 1919,200 / 1919.201 kHz =
with&nbsp;2 mW=20
rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 20, double space,&nbsp;5 seconds gap. =
Text:=20
dk1is 2mw ,&nbsp;followed by&nbsp;fast cw id dk1is with 12 bpm. At =
20061119-0700=20
utc I=B4ll change to the usual codeword transmission.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you happen to see/hear anything I =
would be glad=20
to get a report!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73 es cuagn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, DK1IS</FONT></DIV>
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Wow that's a long haul. Good work Rudy. Throw a 1 second dash in there =
for homing signal so to say if the CW is very weak. Are you sure on your =
ERP? Can you crank the power up some more?

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
WD2XSH/16
EN35hj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rudy Severns
  To: 500 kHz group<mailto:500kc@500kc.com>=20
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  Yesterday I sent a note to Mike McAlevey, ZL4OL asking him to listen =
for me.

  He has me on Argo! But not aurally yet.  I'm going to slow down the =
code=20
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  The possibilities of 600 m continue to amaze me.

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Victor
I do both. I have built some complex electronic equipment in the past and
can also send and receive CW at 30 wpm

de G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Mall,
>
> if you don't like people who prefer to design and built their own
tranceiver
> rather than trying to copy cw at 30 wpm or more,why even bother to make
> contact..
>  73
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens hamilton mal
> Verzonden: donderdag 2 november 2006 20:38
> Aan: rsgb
> Onderwerp: LF: gb3sss
>
>
> GB3SSS 1960 khz  599 on CW at 1700z on my loop, then switched to appliance
> operator mode for the majority that cannot copy CW.
>
> G3KEV
>
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>
>
>
>



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Good signal Henny, 559 into JO42FD ;o)
73, Wolf DL4YHF on the reflector / DK4U on LF

henny van elst schrieb:
> test pa3cpm jo22mb.
>  
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Tnx Markus,  I see that XGJ is also getting into Hungary:
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> at 23:40, there's a nice "X" on my TA screen.
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Hi Warren and LF,

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Hartmut, (and Group)

           VY1JA = CP20kw
              QRG ~ 137778.64   (when warm and stable)
      Bandwidth = QRSS 60
               Date = 2006/11/21
               Time ~ 06:00 UTC
EU QSO now = possible
                   J. = :o)





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Starting to see MP and XES in Vancouver, very rare for me and my noisy QTH!

VY1JA and I are going to try a QSO.

73 Scott



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Thanks Jean-Pierre, XGJ was on 22:00 to 03:30 and 04:00 to 04:35 UTC last 
evening.


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ
> 
> Low static level
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> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> 
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Hi John.

      Thanks for the input, I was on the verge of tearing apart my transmitter and antenna tuner!

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> Warren,
> 
> The W3EEE Grabber signal levels must have been down for some other 
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Warren,

The W3EEE Grabber signal levels must have been down for some other 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,

  Thanks for the report!  Conditions were poor indeed, even the W3EEE grabber 300 kM from me had trouble with my signal!


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
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> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night ,very poor conditions !
> i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ
> 
> Very high level of noise ! Kp = 4 ??????????
> Low level static activity
> 
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> 
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Hi Jean-Pierre,
  Thanks for the report!


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ
> 
> Low level static activity
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Jean-Pierre,

 Thank you for the report!

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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
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http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night,i copy on the grabber :
> 
> WD2XGJ
> 
> Low level static activity
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
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Jean-Pierre,

 Thanks for the report and captures. XGJ is back on after a break for Halloween.


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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night ,very poor conditions !
> i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ
> Low level static activity
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
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> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
> 
> 
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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,i copy on the grabber
WD2XES

High level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of the other nights are at:
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht














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Thanks to all  who made suggestions for the CW filter.

I know Harry Grimbergen, PA0LQ, very well. We were colleagues during our 
working lifes.  The filter I use actually is one like Harry's one but 
with  four passive tuned circuits  instead of the opamps Harry is using.  I 
am very satisfied with the filter  but it does not provide a "brick wall" 
response.  Filters as used in software defined radios do that and I was 
looking for such a filter that could be used between the output of my 
receiver and the headphones.

I will try the suggestions made by you; hopefully there is a "brick wall" 
one  among them.

73, Dick, PA0SE  




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Hello Mal and all:

You can see at http://w5jgv.com/cgi-bin/lwlread-online.pl  the operationa=
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status of the WD2XSH stations on 500kHz.
The highest signal I could hear was from WD2XSH/10, op Dexter, even audib=
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in some moments.

73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX







----- Original Message -----=20
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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> Hi All
> I can hear beacons from all over around 500khz but so far at my listeni=
ng
> times I have not heard any USA amateurs. It would be interesting if any=
one
> else in EU can hear any amateur acty on a regular basis.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XNS, WD2XGJ, WD2XES,WD2XKO(traces only)

Middle static level
High noise level

Captures of the night are on :
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ

Low static level
Middle noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
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the files of night are filed each day at :
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73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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Hello Alan and Markus ,

Just a traces of  XGJ on my grabber ! I did not put the good antenna=20
yesterday evening , I remained with the qtf 035 !!! sorry

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi Markus, yes the same here in fact I know have the "G" as well !!
>
> Alan G3NYK
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>> at 23:40, there's a nice "X" on my TA screen.
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>> 73 de Markus, DF6NM
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Hi Markus, yes the same here in fact I know have the "G" as well !!

Alan G3NYK

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> Hi Warren and LF,
> 
> at 23:40, there's a nice "X" on my TA screen.
> 
> 73 de Markus, DF6NM
> 



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Ami Jean-Pierre M�r�:

Merci pour avoir mis ton GRABBER II pour la bande de 136320 la nuit
vendredi.

Le programme JASON est tr�s sensible aux variations de fr�quence.

Ils m'ont seulement re�u bien pr�s de Madrid.

De nouveau je recommencerai � �prouver avec plus de puissance et plus de
stabilit�.

Une embrassade

EA4BVZ  Manuel Santos



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Also watched here until 0500Z...nothing seen.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Manuel,
> 
> I tried to copy your signal between 0230 and 0800 UTC, but nothing was 
> seen.
> 
> John Andrews, W1TAG
> 
> Manuel Santos wrote:
> > Hallo Friends
> > I will transmit tomorrow,  the 2nd of Nov. from 11 p.m. GMT until 8 a.m. GMT
> > of the 3rd. Nov.
> > In 136.321, aprox DOT120
> > Thank you for the interest.
> > The reports of receipt will be been grateful !
> > EA4BVZ
> 


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On Wednesday 01 November 2006 12:43, Manuel Santos wrote:
> Hallo Friends
> 
> I will transmit tomorrow,  the 2nd of Nov. from 11 p.m. GMT until 8 a.m. GMT
> of the 3rd. Nov.
> 
> In 136.321, aprox DOT120
> Thank you for the interest.
> 
> The reports of receipt will be been grateful !

Hi EA4BVZ

Received in Milano, JN45OM, at 22.00 UTC, about 20 dB over noise.
Antenna: miniwhip like (my own project) on balcony 6th floor east side of the building
RX: direct conversion
SW: SpectrumLab, QRSS 30sec dot

see attachment.

73 de Claudio, IK2PII


-- 
Claudio Pozzi  -  Happy Linux User  -  http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii

 


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Manuel,

I tried to copy your signal between 0230 and 0800 UTC, but nothing was 
seen.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Manuel Santos wrote:
> Hallo Friends
> I will transmit tomorrow,  the 2nd of Nov. from 11 p.m. GMT until 8 a.m. GMT
> of the 3rd. Nov.
> In 136.321, aprox DOT120
> Thank you for the interest.
> The reports of receipt will be been grateful !
> EA4BVZ


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Hallo Friends

I will transmit tomorrow,  the 2nd of Nov. from 11 p.m. GMT until 8 a.m. GMT
of the 3rd. Nov.

In 136.321, aprox DOT120
Thank you for the interest.

The reports of receipt will be been grateful !

EA4BVZ



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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Dave G3WCB wrote:

> Hi, Jean-Pierre, LF,
>
> I found this posting on the NDB reflector. The station that F1TAY heard was
> probably "PAT". See below:-
>

   Many thanks, Dave, for this information, and for the link toward the 
"Save 500 kHz" pages.

   73 !

   J-P - f5yg



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Hi, Jean-Pierre, LF,

I found this posting on the NDB reflector. The station that F1TAY heard was
probably "PAT". See below:-

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

"
-----Original Message-----
From: ndblist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ndblist@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Alan
Sent: 03 November 2006 19:28
To: ndblist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ndblist] Special Beacon on 500



>The Irish Special beacon operator 'PAT' is currently operating a
>special one-night only beacon to commemorate the 100th anniversary of
>the introduction of SOS on 500 kHz, and is beaconing with a special
>message from local dusk until around 0830 utc tomorrow (Saturday).

>The frequency is approx 501.3 kHz, and the signal is booming in here
>at the moment. Better get this one quick, I don't think you will get
>another chance once it goes off air tomorrow - this is strictly a one off!

>There are many Amateur special event stations operating on various
>bands this weekend to celebrate the anniversary, more details can be
>found at
>the 'save 500' website at: http://www.save500khz.org/

"




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
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   Thank you, Jean-Pierre, for this info.

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, MIKE REID wrote:

> ... From 505.00kc to 507.00kc would be OK. It would have to be set for
> plain CW as the US guys are only running regular CW.
> ...

   Hello, Mike !

   I hope soon to receive your signal and I'm trying hard to improve the
receiving condition to do that, without help of the machine, that means by
ear only.
   BTW, a french guy, Daniel F1TAY, claimed that he received, yesterday
november 3rd, regular telegraphy on 500 kHz at about 2035 ==> 2150 UTC.
Unfortunately, I was not at home and I saw his mail too late, reading it
after midnight, and nothing was heard here... This station was far away
from the regular 505 - 507 area, but near our old calling frequency, on
501.4 kHz said Daniel. The text was "cq cq de 500 kcs 100 years",
something like that, without an identification of the station by a
callsign.

   Is somebody on the reflector knows about this signal ? European pirate ?
Ghost of a R.O. ?

   An other thing, unrelated. Our friend Manfred Kerckhoff (Germany, Bremen
University) is receiving a new VLF station on 18.6 kHz, strong in northern
Germany, but very weak here. The bearing in Bremen is 107 / 287 deg.
   Manfred will be glad to get info, and perhaps the bearing from your QTH
to confirm the location of this new station :
ews2@uni-bremen.de

   Thank you.
   Have a good week-end !

   Jean-Pierre - f5yg





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Hello Hartmut ,
I sought in the captures of Grabber, nothing considering here!
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hartmut Wolff a =E9crit :
> Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
> and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
> one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
>
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Hartmut

A grab from the TIL grabber is on its way to you for timing purposes... 
Its of poor quality as the prop here at that time was poor and with abit 
of QRM, But from what I see its VY1JA. And you got a good '1'.

Let me know the results of your comparison.

Regards,
Scott


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> Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
> and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
> one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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Attached a screenshot of a UNID QRSS signal drifting between 137.7788
and 137.7787 kHz about 05:45-06:30 UTC last night. Anybody claim this
one or any ideas of the source of the signal? Help will be very much
appreciated.

73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator: JO52hp
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Hello Hans,

sunday will be ok with me,I will be listening to your signal and of courc=
e I
will try to call you.

73
Victor

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hans-Albrecht Haffa
Verzonden: woensdag 1 november 2006 17:30
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: DK8ND, Sked Sun or Friday


Dear Victor
my proposal for a radio contact is
     Sun 05.11.2006  09.00 UTC A1A qrss3. I will be qrv from abt. 08.30h =
at
my stn.
Or Friday 03.11.2006 21.00 UTC


Today I had  a disturbed contact to DK 7 SU, just 20 km away. Mostly nois=
e
in the RX. I heaqrd with 479, DK7SU gave me 599 (what is usual for that
distance).

Looking forward to Your reply

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND



> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 31.10.06 17:37:07
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: RE: LF: DK8ND, tnx Victor


> Dear Hans,
>
> when I spotted you I had now time to call you,next sunday will not be a
> problem,just give me a time and we can give it a try.
>
> 73
> Victor,
> PA3FNY
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hans-Albrecht Haffa
> Verzonden: maandag 30 oktober 2006 20:40
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: Re: LF: DK8ND, tnx Victor
>
>
> Dear Victor,
>
> tnx for the fb qrss-report, according to your screenshot abt OO.
> Can You or any other stn respond to my calls? I got no Idea how sensiti=
ve
my
> stn is now, and how much qrn is usual nowadays and in my urban housing
area.
> I  didnt get well Deutschlandfunk 153 k with AM demodulator with my RX
> EKD300 in good quality last weekend (just for comparison).  With
synchronous
> detector it was a bit better. Ant tuned on 136,5 kHz.
> Can You respond to my calls ? I have seen on my spectrolab screen only
snow
> (noise) and blue background. Must wait for next weekend for a cw-qso wi=
th
DK
> 7 SU, 20 km from me.
>
> 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND
>
>
>
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Gesendet: 29.10.06 11:27:12
> > An: "blacksheep" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Betreff: LF: DK8ND
>
>
> > Received at 9:20 UTC
> >
> > 73
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ and WD2XES

Middle static and noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
Nil copy on the grabber :
Just a trace on 137 779.9 (23:30 > 00:30)
Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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Thanks to Hartmut, Jean-Pierrre, Jim, Victor, and Gary for the reports/captures this weekend!

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


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All,

VY1JA beacon is off the air for a few days.  For the next couple of days 
after that, it should be running Steve's amp.(~80-100W)

By next Monday, I hope to have it running the new amp, ramping in stages up 
to 1 W erp.  This portion of the work will be done by field strength 
measurements.  I will let the group know how much power output it takes to 
get 1W erp when the final portion of the project is complete.

J
VY1JA




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Hello Hans,

problems receiving lf are normally due to high local QRM levels and
overloading of the receiver and/or active antenna's.I don't know if you a=
re
using the preselector for the EKD300,normally this kind of receiver does =
not
have very much of filtering at the input,at least not below 1.6 MHz.Local
MW/LW broadcast stations can be a big problem.When locale QRM is a proble=
m
you can try an active antenna on a noise free spot.It's all tryal and
error...
Beware of broadband rx antenna's when their are broadcast stations nearby=
..
The rx I am using is a hongarian REV-251M with a broadband active whip 50=
 cm
long.The only inputfilter in this setup is a rejection filter at 675 KHz
between antenna and receiver to prevent overloading of the
receiver.Unfiltered Arrow classic rock at 675 KHz gives an output of
400mV!TX antenna is 9 m vertical with 20m topload.

Hope to work you soon Hans

73,Victor
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Hans-Albrecht Haffa
Verzonden: zondag 5 november 2006 11:44
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: DK8ND OK2BVG, from DK 8 ND


Dear Victor,
thank You for Your e-mail qsl. I still dont know, what is going wrong wit=
h
my stn, I just receive blue screen noise with spectrum lab. Had a short q=
rss
qso with DK 7 SU this morning. I am using a commercial rx EKD300 with a 1=
00
Hz Filter in the if. Aerial: ca. 15 m vert . Loading coil abt. 6.5 mH (L=3D=
70
cm, Dia =3D30 cm ) with variometer.   Hexagin Chicken wire fence as GP, a=
bt 50
m2, fixed with metal pegs below the lawn.  What is Your receiver equipmen=
t?

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND



 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 05.11.06 10:37:19
> An: "blacksheep" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: LF: DK8ND OK2BVG


> Received this morning,unfortunatly no reply to my call.
>
> 73
> Victor
> PA3FNY
> JO22NC


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Dear Victor,
thank You for Your e-mail qsl. I still dont know, what is going wrong with=
 my stn, I just receive blue screen noise with spectrum lab. Had a short q=
rss qso with DK 7 SU this morning. I am using a commercial rx EKD300 with =
a 100 Hz Filter in the if. Aerial: ca. 15 m vert . Loading coil abt. 6.5 m=
H (L=3D70 cm, Dia =3D30 cm ) with variometer.   Hexagin Chicken wire fence as =
GP, abt 50 m2, fixed with metal pegs below the lawn.  What is Your receive=
r equipment=3F

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND



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> Received this morning,unfortunatly no reply to my call.
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> 73
> Victor
> PA3FNY
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EU gang,

Steve advised me that you will most likely have the answer to this one.

In liberating some TV horizontal output cores for a more beneficial 
purpose... in amateur gear  :o)   ,
I busted some of the cores... How successful is glue?  What kind should be 
used and what kind avoided.
Should I just be pitching the cores?

J,
VY1JA 




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Hi Mike=20
Tnx for the info but I was not monitoring last nite, so probably missed =
all the action. I have seen acty around 505 khz but I did not wait =
around long enough for an ID I think a sensible speed for this band =
should not be slower than qrs 3. My observations show that there is =
considerable QSB on dx signals on this band, more like 160 m at times. I =
worked some USA stns recently on 160 m and the QSB was bad, not always =
the case but recently very noticeable.
Qrs 30/60/90 etc is far too slow on 500 khz because of the QSB the =
signals are all chopped up and virtually impossible to get an ID.=20
Some years ago when the band was in use by the marine service I could =
copy ships across the atlantic and out to the far east Japan etc at =
night time pretty well every night but the average ships TX was running =
1kw out and a good inv L anternna, some large ships probably had a 1/4 =
antenna, a big ERP.
Copy was on normal CW.
I will look out for acty when time permits.

73 de Mal/G3KEV
=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: MIKE REID=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 6:01 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 500


  Hi Mal,

  The band is very busy tonight with many stations on the air right now =
around 506kc. Everyone is armchair copy in regular CW. At 505.7kc there =
is a 21wpm CW station out of Colorado USA running 100w output to a =
vertical.

  Mike
  WE0H
  WD2XGI
  WD2XSH/16
  EN35hj
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: hamilton mal
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    Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:28 AM
    Subject: LF: 500


    Hi All
    I noticed a burst of acty last nite at 2314z on 505 khz approx. The =
keying
    was fast and lasted 80 secs No ID.
    I was set at qrs 3

    73 G3KEV



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<DIV>Tnx for the info but I was not monitoring last nite, so probably =
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the action. I have seen acty around 505 khz but I did not wait around =
long=20
enough for an ID I&nbsp;think a sensible speed for this band should not =
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noticeable.</DIV>
<DIV>Qrs 30/60/90 etc is far too slow on 500 khz because of the QSB the =
signals=20
are all chopped up and virtually impossible to get an ID.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Some years ago when the band was in use by the marine service I =
could copy=20
ships across the atlantic and out to the far east Japan etc at night=20
time&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;well every night but the average ships TX was =
running 1kw=20
out and a good inv L anternna, some large ships probably had a 1/4 =
antenna, a=20
big ERP.</DIV>
<DIV>Copy was on normal CW.</DIV>
<DIV>I will look out for acty when time permits.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 de Mal/G3KEV</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hi Mal,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The band is very busy tonight with many stations on the air right =
now=20
  around 506kc. Everyone is armchair copy in regular CW. At 505.7kc =
there is a=20
  21wpm CW station out of Colorado USA running 100w output to a =
vertical.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Mike<BR>WE0H<BR>WD2XGI<BR>WD2XSH/16<BR>EN35hj</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> hamilton mal</DIV>
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2006 3:28=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi All<BR>I noticed a burst of acty last nite at =
2314z on 505=20
    khz approx. The keying<BR>was fast and lasted 80 secs No ID.<BR>I =
was set at=20
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Loads fine here...

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hello LFers & Lowfers,
> 
> Have any of you fellows had troubles with the GB2GM website?
> Every time I try to view it, about half the home page loads and
> then my computer locks up solid, requiring a re-boot.
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
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> 
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Thank you Alan for this explanation which clarifies my spirit ! (I am=20
young in the "LF" and I just start to correlate propagation T/A with the=20
solar activity)
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Alan Melia a =E9crit :
> Hi J, and Jean-Pierre, yes the Kp rose before midnight to 4 which seems=
 to
> have been enough to devastate the propagation across the Atlantic. Stev=
e
> Dove's plot of DCF39 shows about a 30dB lower level that the previous n=
ight.
>
> It is unusual for the electrons from a minor storm to enter the ionosph=
ere
> so quickly, but it is tied up with the plasma field direction. I guess =
from
> J's comments there was a bright auroral display last night and it would=
 seem
> a lot of electrons entered via the poles. More usually the electrons ar=
e
> "sucked up" into the magnetoshere tail and are then drawn back to the r=
ing
> current. They then take a day or so to enter the ionosphere.  The ring
> current "fill level"  is indicated by the Dst index and although the Kp
> recovers quick;ly, the Dst indicates how many electrons are available t=
o
> provide absorption over the next few nights. These are, I believe, tric=
kled
> into the ionosphere at the daylight edge were the solar wind pressure
> distorts the magnetosphere. The result is that although the Kp may be b=
ack
> to quiet tomorrow the poor conditions will probably last for upwards of=
 6 to
> 7 days.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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> Subject: LF: T/A , Kp =3D 6 !
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> Ooopppsssss !
> Kp =3D 6     now !
>
> 73 f1afj
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>
>
>
>
>  =20

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Hi J, and Jean-Pierre, yes the Kp rose before midnight to 4 which seems to
have been enough to devastate the propagation across the Atlantic. Steve
Dove's plot of DCF39 shows about a 30dB lower level that the previous night.

It is unusual for the electrons from a minor storm to enter the ionosphere
so quickly, but it is tied up with the plasma field direction. I guess from
J's comments there was a bright auroral display last night and it would seem
a lot of electrons entered via the poles. More usually the electrons are
"sucked up" into the magnetoshere tail and are then drawn back to the ring
current. They then take a day or so to enter the ionosphere.  The ring
current "fill level"  is indicated by the Dst index and although the Kp
recovers quick;ly, the Dst indicates how many electrons are available to
provide absorption over the next few nights. These are, I believe, trickled
into the ionosphere at the daylight edge were the solar wind pressure
distorts the magnetosphere. The result is that although the Kp may be back
to quiet tomorrow the poor conditions will probably last for upwards of 6 to
7 days.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Sent: 10 November 2006 07:56
Subject: LF: T/A , Kp = 6 !


Ooopppsssss !
Kp = 6     now !

73 f1afj





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Ok !
TNX


J. Allen a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre
>
> Auroras usually do things like this...
>
> http://www.sec.noaa.gov/pmap/
>
> The abrupt  changes in propagation are usually seen in the north first=20
> when the lovely Lady Aurora enters the stage.
>
> J.
>
>
>

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Jean-Pierre

Auroras usually do things like this...

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/pmap/

The abrupt  changes in propagation are usually seen in the north first when 
the lovely Lady Aurora enters the stage.

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Dear LF enthusiasts!

SRI - I have made 2 mistakes in the previous message:
1. the argocaps was sent from Bob ZL2CA (sunrise in ZL2 - abt 17z)
2. time on argocaps was 4PM - i.e. 16z
On the argocaps of Urban SM5EUF at the same moment of time is well seen
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73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
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It's great that EU LF activity is picking up again.
  Last weekend I noted the following stations - 
   
  DK4U  DK7SU  DL2HRE  F6BWO  G3KEV M0FMT  OK2BVG  PA3CPM
  PA3FNY  PA4VHF and  S57A  (all good strengths)
   
  Today I worked -
   
  DL2HRE  F6BWO and  PA3CPM
  I called OK2BVG but he had QRM, maybe have better luck next time.
   
  Most Sunday mornings I call CQ on 136.5 (cw) but apart from G3KEV, G3YKB, G3AQC and M0FMT haven't had any takers recently.
  Dust off those keys and polish those spark balls !
   
  73 Chris G3XIZ

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<div>It's great that EU LF activity is picking up again.</div>  <div>Last weekend I&nbsp;noted the following stations&nbsp;- </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>DK4U&nbsp; DK7SU&nbsp; DL2HRE&nbsp; F6BWO&nbsp; G3KEV M0FMT&nbsp; OK2BVG&nbsp; PA3CPM</div>  <div>PA3FNY&nbsp; PA4VHF&nbsp;and &nbsp;S57A&nbsp; (all good strengths)</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Today I worked -</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>DL2HRE&nbsp; F6BWO and&nbsp; PA3CPM</div>  <div>I called OK2BVG but he had QRM, maybe have better luck next time.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Most Sunday mornings&nbsp;I call CQ on&nbsp;136.5 (cw) but apart from G3KEV, G3YKB, G3AQC&nbsp;and M0FMT haven't had any takers recently.</div>  <div>Dust off those keys&nbsp;and polish those spark balls !</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>73 Chris G3XIZ</div><p>&#32;Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is "ON" ( QTF =3D 035=B0, full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Thank you very much friend Markus:

Tomorrow on the 2nd of Nov. I will transmit again from 21  in forward.

I hope that also you receive me.

A greeting Manuel Santos EA4BVZ
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  De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]En nombre de MarkusVester@aol.com
  Enviado el: martes, 31 de octubre de 2006 22:54
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  Hi Manuel,

  a very nice signal also in Nuernberg, JN59NK - see screenshot taken Oct
30, 23:10z:



  Good luck and 73
  Markus, DF6NM

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Hi Mike

I checked 500 early this morning around 0200 and 0500 z and heard =
nothing from the USA . At this distance this band will probably be more =
like 160m, sometimes good and others bad depending on prop, whereas 136 =
khz is more consistant even in poor condx usually some bit of signal =
gets here.

73 Mal/G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: MIKE REID=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:24 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Grabber II is ON !


  Any chance to get a 505kc grabber? From 505.00kc to 507.00kc would be =
OK. It would have to be set for plain CW as the US guys are only running =
regular CW.

  Mike
  WE0H
  WD2XGI
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    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9
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    Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:21 AM
    Subject: Re: LF: Grabber II is ON !


    Info : antenna K9AY qtf  035 !

    Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
    >
    > Hi all on the list !
    >
    > Grabber II is ON ( full 136 band + QRSS band )
    >
    > http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm
    >
    > 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht

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   Thank you, Jean-Pierre, for this info.

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, MIKE REID wrote:

> ... From 505.00kc to 507.00kc would be OK. It would have to be set for 
> plain CW as the US guys are only running regular CW.
> ...

   Hello, Mike !

   I hope soon to receive your signal and I'm trying hard to improve the 
receiving condition to do that, without help of the machine, that means by 
ear only.
   BTW, a french guy, Daniel F1TAY, claimed that he received, yesterday 
november 3rd, regular telegraphy on 500 kHz at about 2035 ==> 2150 UTC. 
Unfortunately, I was not at home and I saw his mail too late, reading it 
after midnight, and nothing was heard here... This station was far away 
from the regular 505 - 507 area, but near our old calling frequency, on 
501.4 kHz said Daniel. The text was "cq cq de 500 kcs 100 years", 
something like that, without an identification of the station by a 
callsign.

   Is somebody on the reflector knows about this signal ? European pirate ? 
Ghost of a R.O. ?

   An other thing, unrelated. Our friend Manfred Kerckhoff (Germany, Bremen 
University) is receiving a new VLF station on 18.6 kHz, strong in northern 
Germany, but very weak here. The bearing in Bremen is 107 / 287 deg.
   Manfred will be glad to get info, and perhaps the bearing from your QTH 
to confirm the location of this new station :
ews2@uni-bremen.de

   Thank you.
   Have a good week-end !

   Jean-Pierre - f5yg


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Nice work Jean-Pierre!


Jean-Pierre M�r� wrote:
> Info : antenna K9AY qtf  035 !
>
> Jean-Pierre M�r� a �crit :
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>> Hi all on the list !
>>
>> Grabber II is ON ( full 136 band + QRSS band )
>>
>> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm
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>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Any chance to get a 505kc grabber? From 505.00kc to 507.00kc would be =
OK. It would have to be set for plain CW as the US guys are only running =
regular CW.

Mike
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Info : antenna K9AY qtf  035 !

  Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
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  > Hi all on the list !
  >
  > Grabber II is ON ( full 136 band + QRSS band )
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  =E9crit :<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Hi all on the list !<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Grabber =
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Info : antenna K9AY qtf  035 !

Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit :
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Hi all on the list !

Grabber II is ON ( full 136 band + QRSS band )

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Dex wrote:
>I agree with Mal.  QRSS3 has shown to be about the slowest speed that is 
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on 500 kc.  Even at that speed only a few letters can be copied with weak
signals on propagation peaks.

It may be that slower QRSS speeds are useful at times on 500 kHz. The 
capture shows WD2XSH/20 using 14 wpm CW as received in ZL with Argo on the 
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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,i copy on the grabber
WD2XES

High level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of the other nights are at:
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht














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Scott

Thanks for the info. Saw a little something about 0545Z on 778...

Jay


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> Hi Jay
> 
> 778 as always despite the upstart XKO
> 
> 73 Scott
> 
> 
> 
> Jay Rusgrove wrote:
> > Scott
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> > What frequency? Ran captures of the Part 5 watering hole last night.
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> > Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
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> >   
> >> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
> >>
> >> Look out Hartmut! Better turn down the RF gain...
> >>
> >> 73 Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>     
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Hi Jay

778 as always despite the upstart XKO

73 Scott



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> Scott
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> What frequency? Ran captures of the Part 5 watering hole last night.
>
> Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>   
>> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
>>
>> Look out Hartmut! Better turn down the RF gain...
>>
>> 73 Scott
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>   


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Scott

What frequency? Ran captures of the Part 5 watering hole last night.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS


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> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...
> 
> Look out Hartmut! Better turn down the RF gain...
> 
> 73 Scott
> 
> 


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> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...

silly boy...won't you ever learn?


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Very strong signal from WD2XGJ here since about 21:05.

73
Hartmut
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Hi Hartmut & LF,

 I did later identify the call sign, I will need to check my frequency =
as I
have not used the system for a while. I did a rough estimate from the
visible LORAN lines on the capture.

Mike G3XDV also confirmed.
Thanks for the confirmation.

73

Gary - G4WGT=20

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Hi Gary

Was RA3YO on about 137.777

73
Hartmut=20

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gary - G4WGT
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Hi All,

I switched the Rx on at 2200z last nite using SpecLab at qrss60 & from =
2200z
on my first capture saw RU3L? At about 137784.5Hz, not sure about =
correct
frequency as the Rx had only just been switched on & was still warming =
up.
Saw 4 characters ok but last one was not completely readable. No other
traces seen.

There was a lot off static at the time (& all nite), please excuse the =
drift
as the Rx warm up drift is about 1.5Hz.

Will RU3L? Or someone confirm the signal.

73

Gary - G4WGT=20

IO83qp



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On my website www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ <www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/>   I've placed a
document (Beacon Timestamp)  describing an idea for adding a three letter
timestamp transmission to beacons that would allow verification of their
reception. The idea is that only the beacon keeper(s) can verify that the
received code was actually the one sent at the particular date/time
reported. 

I've already written the code for generating the timestamp into a PIC keyer
and its undergoing testing.  Still need to add the data format of a few
different GPS receivers, then will install on one or more of the Bell Hill
beacons at some point in the future.  

Meanwhile, if there are any cryptologists out there who want to try to show
how useless my time hashing algorithm is, and how anyone could falsify
reporting, feel free to try to crack it.

Andy  G4JNT / G8IMR




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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I've already written the code for genera=
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l install on one or more of the Bell Hill beacons at some point in the fu=
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Hi LF's

Oleg RX9BS will be ready to get  Eu-beacons on 136320 in qrss30-60 from 
06 nov

10 nov RX9BS   TX  from 17utc on 137776.5 each 30 minuts, and RX 
137700-137705  in qrss30

Dmitry



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Hi J.,

I have done some tests (each taking one night) and found out that the =20
problem does not occur here when the fast CW-speed is set to 6 WPM =20
(instead of 12 WPM).
This could make sense as for 6 WPM "fast CW" the same timer si used as =20
for QRS while at higher WPM speeds a separate (more accurate but also =20
more CPU-time consuming) timer is used.
Did you ever encounter the prblem when the fast CW speed was set to 6 WPM?

73, Rik  ON7YD


Quoting "J. Allen" <vy1ja@northwestel.net>:

> Rik,
>
> I found yesterday that if I turn on the synchronize for 30 minutes AND
> am using dot / dash ratio of 1:3, it forces the system to continue
> running.  I think it is most logical that the dot / dash ratio has
> nothing to do with the problem, which means that by using
> synchronizing, the beacon ran all night.
>
> There must be a software counter in the program which gets reset every
> time the sync happens on the hour and half hour.
>
> At least now you know what to tell people who want to beacon
> continuously.... use synchronizing every half hour and if that does not
> prove to be the answer by itself, tell them to use 1:3 ratio as well.
>
> I will do more experimenting on this to find out if I can move back to
> 1:2 ratio, with SYNC on and see if it clears the problem up.. I will
> also try different sync times to see if they affect the problem.
>
> J.



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Rik,

I found yesterday that if I turn on the synchronize for 30 minutes AND am 
using dot / dash ratio of 1:3, it forces the system to continue running.  I 
think it is most logical that the dot / dash ratio has nothing to do with 
the problem, which means that by using synchronizing, the beacon ran all 
night.

There must be a software counter in the program which gets reset every time 
the sync happens on the hour and half hour.

At least now you know what to tell people who want to beacon 
continuously.... use synchronizing every half hour and if that does not 
prove to be the answer by itself, tell them to use 1:3 ratio as well.

I will do more experimenting on this to find out if I can move back to 1:2 
ratio, with SYNC on and see if it clears the problem up.. I will also try 
different sync times to see if they affect the problem.

J. 




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Hi All,

I switched the Rx on at 2200z last nite using SpecLab at qrss60 & from 2200z
on my first capture saw RU3L? At about 137784.5Hz, not sure about correct
frequency as the Rx had only just been switched on & was still warming up.
Saw 4 characters ok but last one was not completely readable. No other
traces seen.

There was a lot off static at the time (& all nite), please excuse the drift
as the Rx warm up drift is about 1.5Hz.

Will RU3L? Or someone confirm the signal.

73

Gary - G4WGT 

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Markus,

Thanks to you and to Jean-Pierre for this morning's reports. I did not 
turn XES on until about 0340 UTC. It should be on earlier tonight. There 
was no sign of CFH this morning around 1200 UTC, so perhaps their 
testing schedule ended on 31 October.

John Andrews, W1TAG

MarkusVester@aol.com wrote:
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> 
> traces of XES between 04:00 and 06:30z, best arond 6:00. No activity 
> from CFH - Halloween break? Loran condx not above average.
> 
> 73 de Markus, DF6NM



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Hi John and LF,

traces of XES between 04:00 and 06:30z, best arond 6:00. No activity from CFH 
- Halloween break? Loran condx not above average.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

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Hi Victor,
  Thank you for the report and capture!
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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
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> Captured at 22:30 UTC
> 
> 73
Victor PA3FNY


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Thank you Jean-Pierre, your receiving setup is working great!
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From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> Hi Warren and Hartmut ,
> Very high level of your signal ! (see capture)
> 73 J-P afj
> 
> Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 a �crit :
> > Thanks to Hartmut and Jean-Pierre for the nice early captures.
> >
> > Hartmut - its good to see you back monitoring 137 again!
> >   
> 
> -- 
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Hi Warren and Hartmut ,
Very high level of your signal ! (see capture)
73 J-P afj

Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 a =E9crit :
> Thanks to Hartmut and Jean-Pierre for the nice early captures.
>
> Hartmut - its good to see you back monitoring 137 again!
>  =20

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Thanks to Hartmut and Jean-Pierre for the nice early captures.

Hartmut - its good to see you back monitoring 137 again!


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de>
> Nice early signal from XGJ tonight. Was a bit late and missed the "X".
> Screenshot attached.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
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Hi all on the list !

Last night , poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ and WD2XES
Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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J.,
    As I recall when it gets down to -40 or so the water vapour in the car exhaust crystallizes instantly leaving a bright white cloud every time you step on the gas..

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73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

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From: "J. Allen" <vy1ja@northwestel.net>
> Friends,
> 
> Well, if you've ever wondered whether cold weather varies propagation, run 
> your theories to their limit by hunting for the VY1JA signal.  It is -47 C 
> for the second day, at my location north of Whitehorse.
> 
> I am on my way to pick my son up from his work on an emergency telephone 
> answering system.  When we go out in WX this cold, the tires will take a set 
> from standing overnight.  It gives the all tires a flatish spot on one side. 
> The vehicle gallops along the road in a pattern not unlike the first radio 
> controlled model planes with what was called, "the galloping ghost" 
> proportional control.  Anyone remember?
> 
> J.
> 
> 
> 



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Friends,

Well, if you've ever wondered whether cold weather varies propagation, run 
your theories to their limit by hunting for the VY1JA signal.  It is -47 C 
for the second day, at my location north of Whitehorse.

I am on my way to pick my son up from his work on an emergency telephone 
answering system.  When we go out in WX this cold, the tires will take a set 
from standing overnight.  It gives the all tires a flatish spot on one side. 
The vehicle gallops along the road in a pattern not unlike the first radio 
controlled model planes with what was called, "the galloping ghost" 
proportional control.  Anyone remember?

J.




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OK Mal,

I just can't do the last (no time to learn),maby into the future..

73 Victor,
PA3FNY

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens hamilton mal
Verzonden: vrijdag 3 november 2006 17:44
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: RE: gb3sss


Victor
I do both. I have built some complex electronic equipment in the past and
can also send and receive CW at 30 wpm

de G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor van Kooten" <vvkooten@wanadoo.nl>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: RE: gb3sss


> Hello Mall,
>
> if you don't like people who prefer to design and built their own
tranceiver
> rather than trying to copy cw at 30 wpm or more,why even bother to make
> contact..
>  73
> Victor
> PA3FNY
>
>
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> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens hamilton mal
> Verzonden: donderdag 2 november 2006 20:38
> Aan: rsgb
> Onderwerp: LF: gb3sss
>
>
> GB3SSS 1960 khz  599 on CW at 1700z on my loop, then switched to appliance
> operator mode for the majority that cannot copy CW.
>
> G3KEV
>
>
>
>
>
>





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Dear LF enthusiasts!

My beacon's tests have not succeded ;-(
My TX part worked automatically on Nov 9 approximately till 1430z, and then
the loading coil burned down and PA was damaged (cause high humidity outside
and inside of our mobile shak)
After abt 1730z and till morning on Nov 10 in the ANT was only 0,08A !
Text of my beacon was RURURURURURURU...

Nevertheless many in Europe, Asia and Mike ZL2CA in ZL have RX my
beacon on Nov 9-10
In the attachment is Mike's ZL2CA argocaps - ...UR.. abt 14z and some traces
from abt 1340z - congrats Mike!

TNX all for the reports!

73! Ed RU6LA  http://136.73.ru
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Jean-Pierre,
  Thank you for the report!

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From: Jean-Pierre M�r� <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> 
> Hi all on the list !
> 
> Last night , i copy on the grabber :
> WD2XGJ and WD2XES ( traces only )
> 
> Middle noise level
> Low static level
> 
> Captures of the night are on :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
> please "click" on "Capture-1" to
> "Capture-5" go back in time
> 
> the files of night are filed each day at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> 
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
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Hello Alan, LFers,

That program of yours is quite handy, especially with the ability
to tweak the values until you get the desired result.  I've made a
version of Jim, M0BMU's broadband loop specifically for the
upper part of the LowFER band, and found the program great
for getting the right values for the caps and inductance required
in the matching box.  Thanks again!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
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Hi all on the list !

This day , Grabber II is ON
( full 136 band + QRSS band )
Antenna K9AY qtf 035

http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Hi all on the list !

Last night, i copy on the grabber :
WD2XNS, WD2XGJ and WD2XES

Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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CQ from UA4WPF now on 137.7768 kHz in QRSS30. O copy here.

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Alan Melia wrote:
> I note that he article does not say anything about the efficiency o=
f the
> power transfer!!=20
It is only a few years ago that we were warned against the dangers of=
=20
living near power lines, etc.
What about the dangers of 60 (or 50)  Hz waves traveling through our=
=20
living rooms ?  :-)
73
Andr=E9 N4ICK



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I note that he article does not say anything about the efficiency of the
power transfer!! When we are being told to unplug out cell-phone chargers
when not in use (mine does not register on my meter when the phone is not
plugged in) this would not seem to be "green" even if if it IS practicable.
Surely copper is not THAT expensive now.

It is sad that academic scientists need to over-hype work in newspapers to
retain their stipend. Of course if you dont over-hype it the newspapers wont
print it. Sadly this is leading to all scientists (and engineers) being
classed as quacks and snake-oil vendors. Remenber "cold fusion" and the
estimated numbers that would die from AIDS, and vCJD.
There is a more secure career in peddling rubbish to the masses hence the
growth in "Media Studies" to the detriment of wealth-generating science and
engineering. This seems to be one area where the "Market Economy" patently
doesnt work. I suppose it is another example of "you get what you pay for".

I hesitate to ask is this the case of another Slavic scientist trying to
take the financial backers for a ride witb radio power
transmission....didn't this happen before about 100 years ago !!

Alan G3NYK




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> More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.
> Do these people not understand basic engineering?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm>
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> Andy  G4JNT
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Hi Andy,
Why don't you E-mail the Professor at MIT.
His background and E-mail address are publicly available on this page:
http://web.mit.edu/physics/facultyandstaff/faculty/marin_soljacic.html

My first reaction was that Energy Tails and energy tunneling from one place 
to another
was complete Buncombe, but the professor specialises in the non-linear 
behaviour of electromagnetic waves at high intensity. Maybe he knows 
something we don't ?

73
Hugh M0WYE



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> More HF than LF, but I became very annoyed after reading it.
> Do these people not understand basic engineering?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6129460.stm
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Hi Jay,
 
You wrote :-
 
 ***  Might be a meteor trail from the recent shower... ***
 
How would that happen?  - refections or something similar.
 
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Hi Andy and group,

Last night we drove up to Signal Hill and copied the beacon using
a miniwhip. We were on the very spot Marconi was in 1901.

I was running the GB2RAL software last night to monitor 1960 kHz
but the computer decided to pack it in overnight so I was
greeted by a blank screen and dead computer this morning....

73 Joe VO1NA

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> The Poldhu beacon on 1960kHz was turned on yesterday at 1415z
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The Poldhu beacon on 1960kHz was turned on yesterday at 1415z
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Nice early signal from XGJ tonight. Was a bit late and missed the "X".
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Hi JB, I am glad you like it.  I built it to use just that way. I find it a
good way to get a feel for the problems...like "What happens if.....?" You
are quite often stuck with one value either a prefeed one of the capacity of
an antenna that you can't do much about. I am also allergic to continually
re-entering values to a utility.  To get the best use out of the reactance
box you have to remember that the inductive and capacitive reactances are
equal at resonance.

I hope the version of Jim's lop design works well for you

Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK

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> Hello Alan, LFers,
>
> That program of yours is quite handy, especially with the ability
> to tweak the values until you get the desired result.  I've made a
> version of Jim, M0BMU's broadband loop specifically for the
> upper part of the LowFER band, and found the program great
> for getting the right values for the caps and inductance required
> in the matching box.  Thanks again!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
>
>



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Updated my website with screenshots taken the past 24h.

Nov, 3rd: DM2BHG, PA3CPM, RA3YO, RX9BS, UA4WPF and WD2XGJ

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Dear LF Group,

After dismantling the station to take it to the RSGB HF convention in
October, and a busy spell at work, I have finally got the LF receive system
back together again. T/A signals were visible between about 0000 - 0730utc
here, with XNS, XGJ, XES, XKO all visible at various times with the usual
slow QSB. There was quite a lot of QRN and what seems to be "Luxembourg
effect" noise. At the lower end of the band, the Luxembourg effect noise was
quite strong even during daylight yesterday, and very strong after dark,
presumably because of the Hungarian "DCF" utility, whose sidebands were
audible at 136.5kHz during the day.

I also set up an RX and antenna for 505kHz - not much seen, apart from the
steady carrier with QSB close to 505kHz that has been observed by others. I
see from the "500kc" web site there is a comprehensive beacon plan, but the
"status" page gives only about 6 of the stations as actually being QRV - is
there a definitive list of which beacons are actually operating?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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Hi LF's


17 and 18 nov RX9BS -  TX dfcw30  from 19 utc on 137776.5 each 30 
minuts, and RX 137700-137705

Dmitry



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Hi John and Warren,
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thanks very much for looking out. XGJ was strong here from 22:25 to about mi=
dnight, and moderately visible till about 04:00.
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73 de Markus, DF6NM

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Markus,=20
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Nothing seen from DF6NM by 0250. The signal on 320.00 did reappear for a whi=
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<div><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</div>


<div><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks very much for lookin=
g out. </FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">XGJ&nbsp;was stron=
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<div><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Markus,&nbsp;<br>
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Nothing seen from DF6NM by 0250. The signal on 320.00 did reappear for a whi=
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Markus,

Nothing seen from DF6NM by 0250. The signal on 320.00 did reappear for a 
while.

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>   Strong carrier here also on 136.320, but so far haven't seen DF6NM. Using the TX loop on receive.

I'm just seeing the NE U.S. Loran line on 136320.28 right now, the 
earlier line on 320.00 has been gone for a while. Will keep watching.

John A.



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Markus, John,

  Strong carrier here also on 136.320, but so far haven't seen DF6NM. Using the TX loop on receive.


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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: MarkusVester@aol.com
> Hi John and LF,
> 
> interesting that you receive this carrier on 136320 Hz, it has been present 
> here every night. Direction southwest, but I have no idea what it is.
> 
> Dmitry YO has started midnight UT around 136321.5, and I've come back a few 
> minutes later on 136319. 
> 
> 73 de Markus, DF6NM
> 
> In einer eMail vom 26.11.2006 01:08:56 Westeurop�ische Normalzeit schreibt 
> w1tag@w1tag.com: 
> 
> > I'm starting to see a carrier on 136.320 exactly.
> > 
> > John Andrews, W1TAG
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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interesting that you receive this carrier on 136320 Hz, it has been present=20=
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Dmitry YO has started midnight UT around 136321.5, and I've come back a few=20=
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<BR>
73 de Markus, DF6NM<BR>
<BR>
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Uwe,

yes, a man's got to do _something_ on a Saturday night ;-)) 
Saw your strong sigs earlier (19:00 to 21:35z).

73 and GL
Markus

======================
> You are late up, Markus.
> 73 Uwe/dj8wx
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Hi John and LF,

interesting that you receive this carrier on 136320 Hz, it has been present=20
here every night. Direction southwest, but I have no idea what it is.

Dmitry YO has started midnight UT around 136321.5, and I've come back a few=20
minutes later on 136319.=20

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 26.11.2006 01:08:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt=
=20
w1tag@w1tag.com:=20

> I'm starting to see a carrier on 136.320 exactly.
>=20
> John Andrews, W1TAG
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<BR>
interesting that you receive this carrier on 136320 Hz, it has been present=20=
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<BR>
Dmitry YO has started midnight UT around 136321.5, and I've come back a few=20=
minutes later on 136319. <BR>
<BR>
73 de Markus, DF6NM<BR>
<BR>
In einer eMail vom 26.11.2006 01:08:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt=
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
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I'm starting to see a carrier on 136.320 exactly.

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Markus,

  Will look for your signal here on 136.32

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From: MarkusVester@aol.com
> TA enthusiasts,
> 
> nice signals from WD2XGJ and RA3YO here at 23:00z.
> Is anyone currently watching the Eu slot around 136.320 kHz ?
> 
> Regards
> Markus, DF6NM
> 



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Thanks Markus

MarkusVester@aol.com wrote:

> TA enthusiasts,
>
> nice signals from WD2XGJ and RA3YO here at 23:00z.
> Is anyone currently watching the Eu slot around 136.320 kHz ?


report from RX9BS- see only signal on 136320.0

Dmitry

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Thanks Markus<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:MarkusVester@aol.com">MarkusVester@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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report from RX9BS- see only signal on 136320.0<br>
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Zitat von MarkusVester@aol.com:

> TA enthusiasts,
>
> nice signals from WD2XGJ and RA3YO here at 23:00z.
> Is anyone currently watching the Eu slot around 136.320 kHz ?
>
> Regards
> Markus, DF6NM
>
>

You are late up, Markus.
73 Uwe/dj8wx



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Markus,

I'll take a look for a while. I see the signal on your screen.

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TA enthusiasts,

nice signals from WD2XGJ and RA3YO here at 23:00z.
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Updated my website with screenshots taken this weekend:

19th: DF6NM, DK8NI, DL2RTR, F6BWO, G3XDV, WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and
WD2XNS

18th: DL3JMM, DM2AYO, F6BWO, G3XDV, PA3FNY, PE1RRF and UA4WPF


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm



73
Hartmut
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Hello Warren and all ,


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Hello Ha-Jo,

Ten years ago I have been tinkering with passive audio bandpass filters.
In an attemp to reduce the physical size of the inductors, some 9 mm hi-mu 
cores were used. The Q of the inductors was measured using a signal 
generator loosely coupled to the tuned circuit and reading the frequency at 
the - 3 dB points which were measured with a high impedance  probe and 
oscilloscope. I found that the resonance frequency varied with applied AC 
voltage.

In my note book I have the data for a FT-37-43 ferrite core with 200 
windings:
The tuned circuit had a 1 uF capacitor in parallel with the core and was 
coupled to the audio generator by a 10nF capacitor.

Vpp(mV)        F(Hz)        L(mH)
=======================
1                    1214            17.2
2                    1208            17.4
3                    1186            18.0
4                    1176            18.3
5                    1162            18.8
10                  1134            19.7
15                  1103            20.8
20                  1073            22.0
25                  1064            22.4
30                  1026            24.1

A filter was build with 88mH 9 mm cores with a lot of windings.
I still have it in a direct conversion receiver.
The funny thing is that one can use it as a very crude AGC system when the 
signal is tuned to the slope of the filter.

It appeared that larger cores suffered less from this effect and the TOKO 
series 10RB magnitically screened inductors did not have it at all.

Best regards,

Roelfo Bakker, pa0rdt 



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Ha-Jo and all,

That makes sense.  There was not much difference between 80 and 155 watts, 
but I did not try anything lower and the amplifier capable higher power 
tests is under construction.   I will let everyone know what I find.

J.

------------------------------------------
a former collegue of me had to design an amplifier in the frequency range 10 
to 20 kHz delivering a few watts. For the output filter he had used tunable 
pot cores. He was wondering that he could tune the filter just for a 
specific output level only. Changing this level would change the performance 
of the filter and required a retune of the output filter.

I could just help him by explaning that, as far as I know, all iron powder 
or ferrite coils show a certain dependance of AL value versus excitation of 
the coil. This can even be shown in a simple VFO employing either air coils 
or iron powder or ferrite coils. When the supply voltage of the oscillator 
is changed, changing oscillator power too, the influence on frequency is 
much higher when using iron powder or ferrite coils.

Therefore in the case of the low pass filter I guess the rf power will 
change the desired inductivity values slightly - I confess I do not know in 
what direction. But there should be an influence.

Assuming that the inductivity values of the output filter have been 
determined correctly, I would propose to prove this thesis at VY1JA if the 
annoying phase effect would become less when reducing power.

If this should be true, the filter coils should be retuned slightly, not the 
antenna.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
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Dear all,

a former collegue of me had to design an amplifier in the frequency range 1=
0 to 20 kHz delivering a few watts. For the output filter he had used tunab=
le pot cores. He was wondering that he could tune the filter just for a spe=
cific output level only. Changing this level would change the performance o=
f the filter and required a retune of the output filter.  =20

I could just help him by explaning that, as far as I know, all iron powder =
or ferrite coils show a certain dependance of AL value versus excitation of=
 the coil. This can even be shown in a simple VFO employing either air coil=
s or iron powder or ferrite coils. When the supply voltage of the oscillato=
r is changed, changing oscillator power too, the influence on frequency is =
much higher when using iron powder or ferrite coils.

Therefore in the case of the low pass filter I guess the rf power will chan=
ge the desired inductivity values slightly - I confess I do not know in wha=
t direction. But there should be an influence.

Assuming that the inductivity values of the output filter have been determi=
ned correctly, I would propose to prove this thesis at VY1JA if the annoyin=
g phase effect would become less when reducing power.

If this should be true, the filter coils should be retuned slightly, not th=
e antenna.=20

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"Talbot Andrew" <ACTALBOT@mail.dstl.gov.uk> schrieb:
> 1)=09
> Slight Saturation in the core causing a loss in inductance at high power
> perhaps?
> Assuming the air wound and cored inductors were adjusted to exactly the s=
ame
> values initially.=20
>=20
> Or
>=20
> 2)
> Direct coupling in the near field from your original air wound coils
> influencing the coupling into the scope of your V and I pickoff, that is =
not
> present in the closed torroidal cores.
>=20
> Can you wind the power down and measure the phase difference which would
> show up 1) but not 2)?
>=20
>=20
> Andy  G4JNT
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of J. Allen
> Sent: 13 November 2006 12:57
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; LowFER at LW Cafe
> Subject: LF: LPF coils and VY1JA to 1W ERP
>=20
> Gentlemen,
>=20
> During the amp repairs at VY1JA, the coils in the LPF were changed from a=
ir
> wound to torroid core at the suggestion of one from our group as a possib=
le
> way of removing ringing from the transmitter.  There was no difference in
> the operation of the two, except that now there is a very slight phase sh=
ift
> with the current waveform lagging the voltage waveform.  The bottom line =
is
> that the air wound coils produced a better LPF only because of this very
> slight lag which is not apparent in the LPF using them.  The inductances =
of
> each coil was measured using an MFJ 257 analyser and was wound to the sam=
e
> value.  The current and voltage traces were picked up for the scope using
> the same scope and scopematch coils, and measurements were made at the sa=
me
> power level with the same transmitter, coax and dummy load connection.
>=20
> Have any others seen this very slight lag on LPFs with torroid cores?  Do=
 I
> now begin tuning the antenna slightly to correct for the phase shift whic=
h
> comes from the LPF, so that the transmitter sees a purely resistive load?
>=20
> Repairs to the interim transmitter at VY1JA are complete and the station =
is
> transmitting now at license limit 1W ERP on ~137778.8 QRSS60.  Again,
> reports and captures are appreciated.
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> J.
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1)	
Slight Saturation in the core causing a loss in inductance at high power
perhaps?
Assuming the air wound and cored inductors were adjusted to exactly the same
values initially. 

Or

2)
Direct coupling in the near field from your original air wound coils
influencing the coupling into the scope of your V and I pickoff, that is not
present in the closed torroidal cores.

Can you wind the power down and measure the phase difference which would
show up 1) but not 2)?


Andy  G4JNT



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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; LowFER at LW Cafe
Subject: LF: LPF coils and VY1JA to 1W ERP

Gentlemen,

During the amp repairs at VY1JA, the coils in the LPF were changed from air
wound to torroid core at the suggestion of one from our group as a possible
way of removing ringing from the transmitter.  There was no difference in
the operation of the two, except that now there is a very slight phase shift
with the current waveform lagging the voltage waveform.  The bottom line is
that the air wound coils produced a better LPF only because of this very
slight lag which is not apparent in the LPF using them.  The inductances of
each coil was measured using an MFJ 257 analyser and was wound to the same
value.  The current and voltage traces were picked up for the scope using
the same scope and scopematch coils, and measurements were made at the same
power level with the same transmitter, coax and dummy load connection.

Have any others seen this very slight lag on LPFs with torroid cores?  Do I
now begin tuning the antenna slightly to correct for the phase shift which
comes from the LPF, so that the transmitter sees a purely resistive load?

Repairs to the interim transmitter at VY1JA are complete and the station is
transmitting now at license limit 1W ERP on ~137778.8 QRSS60.  Again,
reports and captures are appreciated.

Thanks,

J.

 



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John, Hartmut, Steve, Scott, and "The Gang",

Upon advisement, VY1JA is now beaconing with 3:1 dot ratio, and 60 second 
dot length.  The time is sychronized daily to NIST and, "JA" is sent every 
half-hour, with a , "VY1JA", 6 WPM morse ID following.  The beacon transmits 
in synchronism every 30 minutes.  Transmissions are still on ~137778.65.

This should make the signal easier to identify and detect and for those with 
software and capability to receive CW which is only synchronized to the 
computer clock on the half-hour and a computer clock synchronized to NIST 
once per day.

If there is anything which I can do beyond these things to make the signal 
easier to detect, I am not aware of it.

Good luck, (and Hartmut, your card is in the mail box in front of the 
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Thanks for the info. Will rx whatever mode you choose to transmit.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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  Thanks very much Jay,

  great, good to know things are still working! In the spaces between =
"NM"s,  XGJ was visible here during large parts of the night. Antenna =
and TX are basically unchanged since last winter.

  Now the antenna is lowered which means receive only; transmissions =
will hopefully resume next weekend. If conditions improve, it might be =
worthwhile to try the WOLF "QSO machine" in Wolfgang's program.

  Good luck, 73
  Markus, DF6NM


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TA enthusiasts

NM in early and then nil for the rest of the night. Time in EST.

Same antenna setup Markus...or something new?

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS



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Thanks very much Jay,
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Now the antenna is lowered which means receive only; transmissions will hope=
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=20
Good luck, 73
Markus, DF6NM
=20

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TA enthusiasts

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Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

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t. Antenna and TX are basically unchanged&nbsp;since last winter.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Now the antenna is lowered&nbsp;which means&nbsp;receive only;&nbsp;tra=
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<div>Good luck, 73</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM</div>


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NM in early and then nil for the rest of the night. Time in EST.

Same antenna setup Markus...or something new?

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
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Henny,

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> nice copy xgj
> ant sloper 7 meter
> henny pa3cpm jo22mb
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nice copy xgj
ant sloper 7 meter
henny pa3cpm jo22mb

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Hi Gary, if you use your RX like I do and it never gets switched
off......there is a little problem I found with this. The AOR 7030 has 2.56
Hz steps but 10Hz indicaton. It sits on frequency for months on end and I
never need to adjust the cal on my waterfalls. But switch the power off and
when it comes back on (even with the tuning "locked") it jumps to the
nearest 10Hz step. I guess this is because the memory only stores the last
frequency to that resolution, not to the tuning step size. I suppose having
tuned in the frequency on the dail you should switch off and then on again
before doing the waterfall calibration so ensuring you are always exactly on
a 10Hz point.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

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To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: Frequency error.


> Hi LF,
>
> Having replaced the PC last week I found that even though I was using the
> same second sound card & same SpecLab usr profiles imported from my
previous
> PC the sound card sampling & therefore my SpecLab accuracy must have been
> severely effected.
>
> All is ok now.
>
> Thanks to all who replied to my mails.
>
> 73
>
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It may be rather old-hat now and things have moved on in the four years
since, but after looking looking through the archives I found the paper I
did on "Amateur use of Novel Signalling Methods"  for the IEE Conference on
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For any newcomers to LF who haven't already seen it,  I've placed the .doc
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Hello all ,


WD2XGJ and WD2XES start at 21:35 in JN06HT!


73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
















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Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very good conditions !
i copy on the grabber :

WD2XGJ 21:35 > 02:15

Low static activity
Low noise level

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht



















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Thanks to Hartmut and Jean-Pierre for the report and captures!
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de>
> Good T/A conditions last night. Captures of WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS
> can be seen here:
> 
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm
> 
> 
> I'm not listening overnight on 137 kHz for a while, because I need my
> antennas for another project.
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> www.h-wolff.de
> Locator: JO52hp
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Good T/A conditions last night. Captures of WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS
can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm


I'm not listening overnight on 137 kHz for a while, because I need my
antennas for another project.


73
Hartmut
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Locator: JO52hp



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How do you manage to go out and take FS measurements when it is that =
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Mike
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My screen was a bit to slow, just readable RX9BS. Still beaconing
on 137.7732. Screenshot attached.

73
Hartmut
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Nothing seen from NM last night here although Argo decided to 'hang' at around 0530Z. Will continue
to monitor when signals are present on the EU grabbers.

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Hi all on the list !

Last night , i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ

Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht


















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Dear LF,

the results of my recent 100 kHz observations are now on 
http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_OctNov2006.htm .
The day-to-day variations of long distance propagation tend to correlate with 
trends seen in 137 kHz transatlantic work. And, of course, nights are 
becoming visibly longer now ;-)

Good luck to all
Markus, DF6NM

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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=
=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"2">Dear LF,<BR>
<BR>
the results of my recent 100 kHz observations are now on <A HREF=3D"http://p=
eople.freenet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_OctNov2006.htm">http://people.fre=
enet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_OctNov2006.htm</A> .<BR>
The day-to-day variations of long distance propagation tend to correlate wit=
h trends seen in 137 kHz transatlantic work. And, of course, nights are beco=
ming visibly longer now ;-)<BR>
<BR>
Good luck to all<BR>
Markus, DF6NM<BR>
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Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Michel, Alan, and Gus SM6BHZ for the reports and captures.
As Alan has observed I shut XGJ down from 0115-0240 for listening and also making impedance measurements on another antenna (there is pick-up from XGJ on the other antenna which interferes with the measurements). XGJ shut down around local midnight (05:00 UTC).

Gus SM6BHZ was the first report from Sweeden for WD2XGJ (just a few days ago I received my first report from Norway). It seems that the Nordic Couuntries are well represented on LF.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
> Hi Michel, you may well be right there. I have good captures of Warren
> through to about 0500z though John faded out with me at about 0220z. I think
> conditions were very stable, not much movement of the ionosphere, so fades
> last a long time, not just 20 minutes or half an hour. Jean-Pierre may just
> have been in an "unfavourable" location.
> 
> 73 de Alan G3NYK
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michel F5WK <f5wk@mTerrier.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: 08 November 2006 10:35
> Subject: Re: LF: T/A last night : XGJ, XES
> 
> 
> > Hello Jean-Pierre and group,
> >
> > Good copy of WD2XGJ seen almost all the night and WD2XES (2 strings)
> >
> > It looks like conditions were not evenly distributed across France (Europe
> ?)
> > Located here about 280 km north from F1AFJ (jn18hp)
> >
> >  73 / Michel f5wk
> >
> > Le mercredi 8 novembre 2006 � 07:43:01, jpm.f1afj@online.fr a �crit:
> 
> 
> 



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Scott,

> 1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...

> Look out Hartmut! Better turn down the RF gain...

the NOAA aurora index at 04:52 was 4 later 9, so nothing captured
here.
For QRSS reception I never turn down the RF gain! Learned this
from Jimi ... ;-)

73
Hartmut



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1200W out and the rain is sizzling on the coil...

Look out Hartmut! Better turn down the RF gain...

73 Scott



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Hi all on the list !

Last night,i copy on the grabber :

WD2XGJ

Low level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
please "click" on "Capture-1" to
"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Not XES sorry !

Hi all on the list !

Last night ,very poor conditions !
i copy on the grabber :
WD2XGJ and WD2XES ( traces only )

Middle level static activity

Captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
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"Capture-5" go back in time

the files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht















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Merci beaucoup mon ami Jean-Pierre:

J'esp�re voir mes mots de JASON dans ton "GRABBER II".

Je reviens : Merci beaucoup

EA4BVZ Manuel Santos




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Hello Manuel and all ,
I will put for you in service the "Grabber II" (=20
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber2.htm ) on your frequency, from=20
20:00 to 22:00 utc, with the antenna at the 215=B0, after I will pass on =
"=20
Transatlantic Waterhole " for the night!
73 all f1afj


Manuel Santos a =E9crit :
> Hello friends:
>   This night from 21 o'clock local time until 8 a.m. I will transmit=20
> in JASON my indicative one and two more words.=20
> =20
>     Frec. 136.318
>     Options:   Speed: Slow,  No turbo
>
>   I wait for your news.
>   EA4BVZ
>
>     =20
>

--=20
Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/
Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu



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Hello friends:
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Dear LF Group,

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Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Hallo group!

I'm testing an E-field antenna, like MiniWhip, but DC coupled for RadioNature use, down to few hundred's Hz,
and up to VHF.

I've found that I have a lot of noise reduction if the antenna power supply is a dedicated one,
with good shielding and decoupling, a 0.1 uF polyester capacitor in parallel of the power transformer,
to smooth diodes transitories, and primary/secondary separated (dualC-core) transformer.
The power supply have it's own ground.

Also using a separated power supply wiring vs signal wiring help.
I'm using a shielded cat5 computer network cable with 4 twisted pair.
One pair for power supply and another pair for signal; the signal pair go to
my receiver through an 1:1 insulation transformer. The shield is grounded only
at Rx side. This cable work well for LF, each pair have about 100 ohm impedance
and I think that at low frequencies twisted shielded pairs are less prone to pickup noise
than coax cables.
But it's useful to test with other grounding and coupling configurations, noise follow strange
paths I can't forecast ;-)

In the schematic L100 is a common mode choke, bifilar wound on 100 mm
ferrite rod or hi mu toroid.

The antenna work well also if connected to mike input of the audio board through an 1:5 step-up
transformer, for RadioNature signals and SAQ.

The whip can be a 33 cl bear can or something like, not bigger.

I hope the schematic pass the reflector length filter.

73 de Claudio, ik2pii

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Claudio Pozzi  -  Happy Linux User  -  http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii

 


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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the nice report, and for trying the WOLF.

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Hello all ,

Now, just before the sunrise
very strong signal of WD2XES !
( see capture )

The files of night are filed each day at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

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Hello Friends,

Perhaps someone might try setting their Argo reception for 60 second dots to 
narrow the bandwith for 05:30-06:30 and increase the chance of reception, 
just in case it is my signal and it needs a little help.

This evening (your tomorrrow morning) I plan to switch to sending, 
"JA_JA_JA" at QRSS60, on ~13778.65, with my whole callsign at normal CW 
speeds every half hour.  I will continue to beacon that way until about 
07:30 and then switch back to the entire callsign only at QRSS60.

Would it be better to go to 120 second dits for the reduced bandwidth?

Would a second instance of Argo run at the same time reliably?  Could it be 
set up to watch for my signal and not interfere with the normal operation of 
the grabbers?

J.

VY1JA 




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Hi John,

Thanks for the info on the loran line.  I plan on tweaking my loop
for the European T-A watering hole shortly and taking a look at
that part of the band for a while.  It'll be a change from seeing
the "same old" every nite!!  Last year I saw CT1DRP, even
though the loop was tuned higher in the band at the time.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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J.B.,

There's a Loran line at 136.32028 kHz from the NE US chain. Nothing is 
showing on the DF6NM grabber, so I doubt if you are seeing anything from EU.

JA



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Hello LFers,

Anyone active this evening (nite for you) on or about 136.3202 kHz.?
Since about 01:00 UTC I've been seeing a signal that I'm pretty sure
is not a loran line, but it's not good enough to positively identify as a
QRSS transmission.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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Hello Jay, Lfers,

Thanks for the report and capture.  I tweaked the variometer
the other day and I got a 10% increase in antenna current.
Likely an environmental effect due to the rain we've had.

I looked in an AAA road atlas for your QTH but  I couldn't
find it listed.  What is the closest big town or city to you?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
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The Southern Aurora was seen in Austraila and New Zealand and was seen in 
the northern hemisphere as far south as the north central states this side 
of the pond.  It is is still visible this morning in Yukon.

The level scale goes only to 10 and it had reached a 9 when reported to the 
group last night (PST).  Personal observations at MF and HF have shown the 
E-W propagation dies and that the N-S path still functions but deteriorates 
as location approaches or is under the Auroral halo.  Often this 
deterioration is shown as one-way propagation with the northern station 
being the better receiving station than the southern.  I would be interested 
in knowing if this phenomena repeats at LF.

Is there a tendency to loose E-W propagation on LF during an Aurora?
Is there also a tendency (recorded) for one-way, for equal stations on a 
north-south path to have a disparity between received signals, and if so is 
the northern station usually the one which seems to have its propagation 
impared for transmission while its reception is not impared as much?

Are there LF stations in EU above 60 degrees latitude with operators who 
will verify or dismiss these observations?

J.





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Dex

Nice copy here as well...was even better earlier before the static level picked up.

Jay W1VD / WD2XNS

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dex,
> 
> Nice copy by ear here at home in MA at 2340 UTC.
> 
> John A.
> 
> 
> > Tonight WD2XSH/10 will beacon on 508.003 kHz starting on or before 
> > 2300Z.  A combination of QRSS3 and CW at 10 wpm with a 10 second key 
> > down will be sent.
> 
> 


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Dex,

Nice copy by ear here at home in MA at 2340 UTC.

John A.


> Tonight WD2XSH/10 will beacon on 508.003 kHz starting on or before 
> 2300Z.  A combination of QRSS3 and CW at 10 wpm with a 10 second key 
> down will be sent.



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hamilton mal wrote:

> Qrs 30/60/90 etc is far too slow on 500 khz because of the QSB the 
> signals are all chopped up and virtually impossible to get an ID. 
> Some years ago when the band was in use by the marine service I could 
> copy ships across the atlantic and out to the far east Japan etc at 
> night time pretty well every night but the average ships TX was running 
> 1kw out and a good inv L anternna, some large ships probably had a 1/4 
> antenna, a big ERP.

I agree with Mal.  QRSS3 has shown to be about the slowest speed that is useful 
on 500 kc.  Even at that speed only a few letters can be copied with weak 
signals on propagation peaks.

Tonight WD2XSH/10 will beacon on 508.003 kHz starting on or before 2300Z.  A 
combination of QRSS3 and CW at 10 wpm with a 10 second key down will be sent.

Dex, W4DEX, WD2XKO, WD2XSH/10
http://www.500kc.com/
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xsh_10.htm


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Hi, Alan, JB, LFers,

There's also a nifty calculator available on the Dressler web-site.

http://www.dressler.com/more_about_rf/rf_formuler_resonant.html

You don't have to be online to use it...you can store the HTML page on your
hard drive locally, and it still works!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia
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Hi JB, I am glad you like it.  I built it to use just that way. I find it a
good way to get a feel for the problems...like "What happens if.....?" You
are quite often stuck with one value either a prefeed one of the capacity of
an antenna that you can't do much about. I am also allergic to continually
re-entering values to a utility.  To get the best use out of the reactance
box you have to remember that the inductive and capacitive reactances are
equal at resonance.

I hope the version of Jim's lop design works well for you

Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello Alan, LFers,
>
> That program of yours is quite handy, especially with the ability
> to tweak the values until you get the desired result.  I've made a
> version of Jim, M0BMU's broadband loop specifically for the
> upper part of the LowFER band, and found the program great
> for getting the right values for the caps and inductance required
> in the matching box.  Thanks again!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
>







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There were a few on tonight but the signals here were not that strong as =
last night. Lots of Loran chatter tonight. I need to build a 100kc notch =
filter to lessen the racket. Do you hear the carrier on 500.00kc? Lots =
of reports of a strong carrier right on 500 since Friday evening. Some =
think it is a west coast (US) signal but there is no ID which would be =
required here. A possible pirate some are saying since this is the 100 =
year aniversery of the 500kc marine band I believe with stations =
worldwide working the freq and others in the 600 meter band.

Oh well, time for bed. It's 3:32am USA Central time. Talk to you next =
time...Have a nice Sunday!!!


Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
WD2XSH/16
EN35hj

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: hamilton mal
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=20
  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:56 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: Grabber II is ON !


  Hi Mike

  I checked 500 early this morning around 0200 and 0500 z and heard =
nothing from the USA . At this distance this band will probably be more =
like 160m, sometimes good and others bad depending on prop, whereas 136 =
khz is more consistant even in poor condx usually some bit of signal =
gets here.

  73 Mal/G3KEV
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  <DIV>I checked 500 early this morning around 0200 and 0500 z and heard =
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